The Glenn Beck Program - April 30, 2024


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Stephen Hicks & Joseph MacKinnon ｜ 4⧸30⧸24


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Glenn Beck and Stephen Hicks talk about the Tucker Carlson interview with Alexander Dugan and why it's important to know who he really is. They also discuss the recent mass shooting at the University of Florida and the reaction to it.

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00:01:04.860 Stephen Hicks joins us for 45 minutes just on the podcast that Tucker Carlson did with Alexander Dugan that came out yesterday.
00:01:15.340 It's an important follow-up to that interview.
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00:01:21.340 But now, part one of who really is Alexander Dugan on today.
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00:02:40.820 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:02:48.680 I want to welcome to the program, it's always an honor to talk to him,
00:02:51.880 Rockford University Philosophy Professor, Center for Ethics and Entrepreneurship Executive Director,
00:02:58.200 Stephen Hicks.
00:02:59.120 Hello, Stephen.
00:02:59.740 How are you, sir?
00:03:00.640 I am very well.
00:03:01.780 Thanks for having me on again, Glenn.
00:03:03.520 You bet.
00:03:04.280 So I watched this interview, and I know that Tucker didn't know who he was, Alexander Dugan,
00:03:11.300 because when he was over there, I said, be careful if you're involved with Alexander Dugan.
00:03:18.760 And that, unfortunately, I said that right before he left.
00:03:21.460 So he had already done the interview, and he said, not really sure about this guy.
00:03:27.100 And I don't think really had done his homework, because it came up last minute.
00:03:34.960 But also, Dugan is hard to nail down if you just look at him on the surface.
00:03:42.260 Would you agree with that?
00:03:44.540 Well, sure.
00:03:46.380 TV interviewers will often underprepare, and they don't necessarily have the philosophical
00:03:51.840 and strategic depth to understand.
00:03:53.520 And as you were suggesting, Dugan is a slippery character.
00:03:57.360 At the same time, he is deep.
00:03:59.960 He is a philosopher, as well as being a strategist.
00:04:03.720 But at the same time, I don't want to let someone like Tucker Carlson off the hook,
00:04:07.340 because we do have enough historical knowledge about the kinds of positions that Dugan is offering.
00:04:13.180 He is repackaging ideas and strategies that have been well worked over in the 20th century.
00:04:19.540 And so we should be up to speed on that.
00:04:21.840 And so I think partly what we need is a little philosophical upbrushing, but also some historical
00:04:26.800 reminders of history repeating itself.
00:04:30.260 So let me play just a little bit of what he said to Tucker yesterday, and we'll start there.
00:04:34.400 Here's a clip from the Tucker Carlson interview with Alexander Dugan.
00:04:37.680 And after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was only liberalism.
00:04:41.020 And Francis Fukuyama has pointed out correctly that there are no more any ideologies except of liberalism.
00:04:49.440 And liberalism, that was liberation of this individual from any kind of collective identity.
00:04:56.620 There were only two collective identities to liberate from gender identity, because it is collective identity.
00:05:06.660 You are man or woman collectively, so you could not be alone.
00:05:11.120 So liberation from gender, and that has led to transgenders, to LGBT, and new form of sexual individualism.
00:05:23.900 So sex is something optional.
00:05:28.260 And that was not just deviation of liberalism, that was necessary elements of implementation and the victory of this liberal ideology.
00:05:40.840 And the last step that is not yet totally made is liberation from human identity, humanity optional.
00:05:49.940 And when now we are choosing, or you in the West, you are choosing the sex you want, as you want. 0.58
00:05:57.840 And the last step in this process of liberalism, implementation of liberalism, will mean precisely the human optional.
00:06:08.840 So you can choose your individual identity to be human, not to be human, and that has a name.
00:06:15.740 Transhumanism, post-humanism, singularity, artificial intelligence, Klaus Schwab, Kurzweil, or Harari.
00:06:26.780 They openly declare that is inevitable future of humanity.
00:06:31.500 So we arrive to the historical terminal station that we finally, five centuries ago, we have embarked in this train, and now we are arriving at the last station.
00:06:46.260 So what he's saying here is that liberalism, meaning the classic liberalism, where you're an individual, it's not collective, et cetera, et cetera.
00:06:57.320 He says the inevitable end is progressivism and then some dystopian future.
00:07:03.880 But I don't think that's right.
00:07:06.160 I'd love to hear from you.
00:07:08.340 Liberalism doesn't lead to progressivism.
00:07:11.100 Marxism leads to progressivism.
00:07:13.260 Yeah, the first half of the Dugan clip, I think, is correct.
00:07:17.380 The second half is a massive equivocation.
00:07:20.180 I think philosophically he should know better.
00:07:22.440 I think he's doing some tactical rhetoric against the West in talking about the transgenderism. 0.98
00:07:28.520 So let's take those two in part.
00:07:30.760 So first part is fall of the Soviet Union.
00:07:33.720 I think Dugan is exactly right.
00:07:35.780 What played out in the 20th century left only some sort of liberalism standing in the field.
00:07:41.260 So the 20th century was a huge ideological battle.
00:07:45.140 I think Dugan's analysis is correct.
00:07:47.140 It's the kind of analysis I've argued and many other people have argued as well.
00:07:51.540 The 20th century was about some sort of liberalism versus some sort of fascism or national socialism versus some sort of Marxist communism.
00:08:01.240 We fought world wars.
00:08:03.540 We fought cold wars.
00:08:04.780 We fought many trench warfare, ideological wars as well.
00:08:09.420 What happened was fascism was defeated.
00:08:11.500 National socialism was defeated.
00:08:13.300 And by 1991, Marxist communism was defeated.
00:08:17.240 And so what seemed to be almost inevitable, I don't want to use the inevitability language,
00:08:22.400 but was that some sort of liberal democracy, capitalism, individualism, modernity was triumphant.
00:08:30.480 So I think that part is exactly right.
00:08:33.580 Now, where I think Dugan goes wrong is in what happens next.
00:08:38.060 My view is that what happened was that liberalism took a breather.
00:08:41.960 We've been fighting wars, ideological and actual wars for over a century.
00:08:46.240 We let our guard down.
00:08:49.100 We're relaxed.
00:08:49.840 We kind of thought everybody is going to get on board.
00:08:53.000 And some sort of liberal, democratic, capitalist, modern future is slowly then going to prevail over the next generation.
00:09:01.520 Now, what actually happened, though, was that the fascists, the national socialists, the authoritarians, the communists, the Marxists of various sorts,
00:09:11.640 did not simply go away and give up the fight.
00:09:14.120 Instead, they started to repackage themselves.
00:09:17.160 And then inside the now triumphant West, there were counter movements that started to reassert themselves.
00:09:24.480 And then we started to see then by the time we get to 2010, 2015 or so,
00:09:29.840 that those counter Western movements inside the West are reasserting themselves and everybody starts to become aware of them.
00:09:37.660 And the particularly nasty forms of transgenderism. 1.00
00:09:41.700 I know I think there is a legitimate version of transgenderism that reasonable and sensitive people will take wear of.
00:09:49.500 But weaponized transgenderism of the particularly violent form that we're sometimes dealing with, that is a different phenomenon. 0.73
00:09:58.860 So the second part, then, is what Dubin wants to do is to say, and this is the part that you were picking up on,
00:10:05.980 that the relativism, the angry activism, the willingness to let everything burn inside the West that we're now confronting with,
00:10:17.160 the virulent forms of Islamism that we are now confronting, and so on. 1.00
00:10:23.220 The total package of anti-Western, anti-liberalisms, where did those come from?
00:10:29.840 Now, I agree, those are pathological, they are very destructive.
00:10:34.060 But what Dubin is offering is a thesis that says that those anti-liberalisms are themselves an outgrowth of liberalism.
00:10:44.960 And that, I think, is simply false.
00:10:49.800 So, when he says, you know, an end to modernity and liberalism, he's actually, I mean,
00:10:58.140 one of the first things I found about Dubin that opened my eyes was his statement that fascism with Mussolini,
00:11:10.420 Mussolini, he says, was a very brave person, as was Hitler, but it didn't work.
00:11:16.280 But they understood that international communism was not good.
00:11:22.040 So they went for national communism or socialism, which became fascist.
00:11:26.400 And he said where the two of them went wrong was they offered too many compromises.
00:11:32.580 He said the future, yeah, the future is fascism without compromise.
00:11:40.380 That's a little terrifying.
00:11:41.740 This is, yeah, so this is 1990s Dubin in the first decade after the fall of the Soviet Union.
00:11:48.220 And he's a strange character, right, at this point.
00:11:51.340 He's already, you know, adopted various forms of Nazism in the 1980s.
00:11:57.600 And at this point, he's not a young man.
00:11:59.840 He's in his late 20s.
00:12:00.900 He's in his early 30s.
00:12:02.280 So he's a mature thinker.
00:12:04.860 He hates liberalism already.
00:12:06.920 He hates modernity.
00:12:08.100 He hates the West in its entirety.
00:12:09.940 At the same time, he's dissatisfied with all of what's going on in the Soviet Union, its version of communism and Marxism. 0.59
00:12:18.560 When the Soviet Union falls, though, he is co-founder of a national Bolshevik party.
00:12:25.660 And the Bolsheviks, of course, were Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, and so on.
00:12:28.760 So it's a reworking of a kind of communist Marxism.
00:12:33.020 But the nationalism is important there for him.
00:12:36.620 And he then, within a few years, settles on saying what we need to do is just rework fascism.
00:12:43.860 So he is widely and explicitly admiring of Mussolini and some of the German fascists of the 1920s and early 1930s.
00:12:55.620 And he publishes an article in 1997 called Fascism, Borderless, and Red.
00:13:03.000 The red part means blood.
00:13:04.980 It means a little bit of incorporation of Marxism.
00:13:07.940 That's going to be a bloody, violent revolution that we need.
00:13:12.400 And the borderless part is also there, that we need to expand Russia's border.
00:13:16.660 We need to be expansionist.
00:13:18.680 What we need is a kind of national socialism.
00:13:22.360 And he takes the socialism seriously, economic control.
00:13:26.360 But it's not going to be a socialism where we take, so to speak, the Russian people and we make them fit into some abstract socialist template.
00:13:33.800 This is the fascist part.
00:13:35.060 We need to take the Russian people, its particular ethnic identity, including its religion, its cultures, its traditions, see it as having a world historical destiny.
00:13:46.360 It's going to lead the world to a new, bright future that's not going to be trapped in the old Marxist way.
00:13:56.240 And as you're suggesting, it's going to learn from the failures of the earlier versions of fascism and national socialism.
00:14:03.800 And what that is going to involve is a willing to be muscular, a willing to be violent, a willing to take ethnicity and nationalism seriously, and not to compromise one jot with capitalism, with any form of Western liberalism.
00:14:21.140 So, yes, that's Dugan by the time we get to the late 1990s.
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00:16:01.820 Now, back to the podcast.
00:16:03.180 You are listening to the best of Glenn Beck.
00:16:07.440 To listen to the rest of this interview, check out the full show podcast.
00:16:11.840 I want to go over this NPR boss, which was, you know, kind of funny at the beginning.
00:16:17.760 And then the more you learn about her, the more you're like, well, now, hang on just a second.
00:16:22.200 Because she would be a very important tool in the hands of the government, and she's being paid by national public radio.
00:16:31.560 So, she is a tool of the government in many ways. 0.90
00:16:36.540 Can she separate herself from her own personal beliefs?
00:16:42.720 Or is that even wanted at NPR?
00:16:47.080 We wanted to bring in Joe McKinnon.
00:16:49.860 Joe is a Blaze News staff writer, and he has been following up on this.
00:16:53.780 Joe, take us from the beginning, from the whistleblower, if you will, all the way to Christopher Ruffo, and then let's pick it up from there.
00:17:07.700 So, can you tell us the beginning of it, Joe?
00:17:10.200 Absolutely.
00:17:10.900 Thanks for having me on.
00:17:11.700 So, Uri Berliner, earlier this month, has this damning expose in the free press, April 9th.
00:17:19.980 He goes after NPR after having worked there for a quarter of a century as a senior business editor.
00:17:26.560 He suggests that there's zero viewpoint diversity, particularly after John Lansing, the former CEO, had made it an activist organization.
00:17:37.140 And then it allied it effectively with the Democratic Party.
00:17:41.000 This is a publication, according to Berliner, that didn't want to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:17:47.240 That worked with Adam Schiff to push the Russian collusion hoax.
00:17:51.420 So, he goes to town on NPR and draws the ire of someone who's not been on a lot of people's radar, and that's Catherine Mayer, or Mayer, I should say.
00:18:03.740 So, Mayer comes up with this long response and effectively cusses him out with some more charitable terms, and subsequently Berliner is suspended, and then he resigns.
00:18:19.480 So, people start looking into Mayer after this, because she was with Wikipedia before, but I guess flew under the radar for a lot, particularly on the right, or among those who are critical of the government.
00:18:35.040 And at first blush, she looks just like another shrill leftist. 0.96
00:18:39.840 She has the obligatory photo wearing the Biden campaign hat, and she has an unhealthy obsession with race. 0.96
00:18:46.500 And so, that photo exists, and the tweets speak for themselves.
00:18:51.580 But you keep digging, as Rufo has, and you realize really quickly that there is something more going on here.
00:18:59.220 From 30,000 feet, she looks like not just a tech-savvy media queen, but someone who spent a lot of time around color revolutions in the Orient.
00:19:10.240 Enough to know how they might be replicated.
00:19:12.240 Okay, so hang on just a second.
00:19:15.020 Campuses and boardrooms are full of leftists, but you're saying, and Christopher Rufo is saying, she is not your ordinary leftist.
00:19:24.200 She's been around color revolutions.
00:19:27.180 What does that mean, she's been around color revolutions?
00:19:29.480 Okay, so one of the many interesting posts she's had, and I should note at the outset here that she's a World Economic Forum World Global Leader.
00:19:42.200 She's worked with the World Bank.
00:19:45.280 She's worked with various NGOs that are in the tech, comms, and, well, foreign policy space.
00:19:54.320 So around 2010, 2011, and Rufo chronicled her travel itinerary, she's with the National Democratic Institute, and that's a spinoff of the National Endowment for Democracy committed to –
00:20:10.100 Yeah, exactly.
00:20:11.560 Well, you know where I'm going with this.
00:20:13.460 Yeah.
00:20:14.440 This is an organization that tries to transition unwilling regimes to become liberal democracies.
00:20:22.220 Can I redefine that a little bit?
00:20:25.960 It's a CIA front.
00:20:27.320 Well, Mike Benz, he was in the Trump administration at the State Department.
00:20:33.380 He said exactly that.
00:20:34.920 He said to carve out for the CIA, and other people have said just as much.
00:20:40.860 In fact, I think it was Ron Dixon at the New York Times back when, he said the NDI was actively fomenting protests during the so-called Arab Spring.
00:20:51.840 So, and by the way, these aren't just –
00:20:55.180 Joe, we know this.
00:20:56.680 I exposed that when we were at Fox.
00:20:59.680 We've known that from the beginning.
00:21:01.460 It didn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.
00:21:04.140 Then, when you go into Ukraine and see what they were doing and the phrases that they were using, saying, you know, we can spread this now.
00:21:14.700 We kind of perfected it in the Middle East, and we can spread it. 0.98
00:21:18.700 And that's exactly what we were doing in Ukraine.
00:21:22.080 Well, precisely, Ukraine, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia.
00:21:28.460 And so, she's kind of got a pilgrimage to these toppled regimes, in some cases, as they're falling.
00:21:36.200 So, Rufo notes that she goes to Tunisia a couple times.
00:21:40.480 She goes to Gaziantep in southern Turkey, just as rebels are making inroads along the highway between Damascus and, I believe, it was Aleppo.
00:21:49.520 And she actually said not long ago that she – well, she framed the timing differently, but she said in the aftermath of the revolutions, she was doing research on the ground with, quote-unquote, human rights activists and independent journalists.
00:22:06.120 And so, she's with the NDI.
00:22:08.280 She's going to Tunisia.
00:22:10.020 And she raised a couple alarm bells.
00:22:13.300 So, there's this Tunisian cabinet official.
00:22:16.060 And, well, he basically – well, he didn't intimate.
00:22:22.060 He straight out said it's a likely case that she works for a certain three-letter agency.
00:22:28.920 And, you know, a lot of people have been speculating about that in recent weeks.
00:22:33.260 So, what is her background in broadcast and news?
00:22:39.540 Well, she deals a lot with comms. 0.75
00:22:45.740 In terms of news, she's been critical of the ways that governments have weaponized their state broadcasters, which I think is rich, granted.
00:22:56.740 Right.
00:22:57.180 Yeah.
00:22:57.760 She does work for her. 0.65
00:22:59.360 Yes.
00:22:59.980 But what is she – I mean, does she have a background in news?
00:23:04.060 Is she a journalist?
00:23:05.080 Is she – I mean, why is she – I see that she's traveled the world, that she's with the World Bank and the WEF, and she's been with NGOs, and she's been around revolutions.
00:23:17.840 But that doesn't necessarily scream CEO of NPR.
00:23:22.000 Well, I think Wikimedia and Wikipedia, which she ran the show for for several years, she demonstrated her bona fides.
00:23:34.000 And it was under her reign that it quickly became clear that this was – well, it's supposed to be a repository for human knowledge, right?
00:23:43.700 Right, but it's not.
00:23:44.660 Recently, you talked about how memory is the key to who we are.
00:23:48.800 Well, Wikipedia is instrumental to capturing and curating that memory for a lot of people.
00:23:56.040 So she might not be a journalist, but she was very much – well, I don't want to suggest there's a causation, because she pretends that the Wikipedia editors are working on their own.
00:24:08.140 But while she's in control, there's very much a narrative curation going on, the kind that you might want at a taxpayer-funded state broadcast.
00:24:19.820 Jeez.
00:24:21.660 Okay.
00:24:23.240 So the rumor that she's with CIA, where did that originate?
00:24:28.380 So I mentioned she went to Tunisia a couple times, right?
00:24:31.460 Okay.
00:24:31.740 So this cabinet official is named Slim Amamu.
00:24:35.460 I think I'm pronouncing that right.
00:24:37.360 But Slim says in 2016 – it's a bit of a retrospective.
00:24:41.780 He's looking back.
00:24:43.180 And I believe it was around the time that she was getting a promotion over at Wikipedia.
00:24:48.080 He straight up says that she's probably CIA.
00:24:52.420 He's not mincing words.
00:24:53.620 He says she's come over under different affiliations with the NDI, with World Bank, with USAID.
00:25:01.380 And he suggests – and this is going on at Twitter at the time, still called that – he suggests that she might as well have had CIA written on her front.
00:25:12.800 And so Slim was in the transitional government.
00:25:15.960 He dropped out to protest so-called censorship.
00:25:19.160 And he – you know, not entirely the top of the food chain, but someone you might at least want to hear out.
00:25:27.860 And so she is prickled by the suggestion.
00:25:31.440 She responds saying, I'm no sort of agent.
00:25:35.900 You can dislike me, but please don't defame me.
00:25:38.900 But then, you know, that brought even more scrutiny because people took notice of the way she framed that response.
00:25:45.840 So Christina Pasha, she's on the Santa's team.
00:25:49.500 She noted, for instance, okay, well, you may not have been an agent, but you could just as well have been an asset.
00:25:56.340 But the CIA element, I think, you know, I haven't seen any incontrovertible proof.
00:26:04.260 But it's also largely immaterial because she's actually directly worked with the Biden administration.
00:26:10.360 She's worked with and brushed shoulders with all these regime change groups.
00:26:16.960 So whether or not she has a CAA on a card somewhere tucked to her desk, she might as well have been.
00:26:24.460 And this is part of the group that, I mean, Hillary Clinton in that infamous clip where she said, we came, we saw he died and laughed about it.
00:26:35.320 I think who she was talking to at the time might have been Samantha Power, who is, you know, Cass Sunstein's wife, the author of Nudge and somebody who knows how to nudge people into new positions.
00:26:48.920 But Sam now works at USAID.
00:26:53.280 She's the head of USAID.
00:26:54.980 So if you have the head of NPR also working with Samantha Power at USAID, that is also a CIA front.
00:27:07.680 Oh, absolutely.
00:27:08.620 And I think it was Michael Waller in the Rufo piece.
00:27:12.060 He's a national security analyst.
00:27:14.060 And he said he drew that same connection with power and intimated that Meyer is part of this revolutionary vanguard movement.
00:27:25.880 So, you know, they're all in bed together by the by the looks of it, I should say.
00:27:31.160 A little bit of dissonance because I don't want to mean tweet.
00:27:33.000 But and then you couple this with her public comments and then it lends even more gravity to this.
00:27:43.000 Well, her becoming the head of NPR, which was give me give me some of her give me some of her public comments that I may not know. 0.99
00:27:50.880 OK, well, I did a little bit of a deep dive.
00:27:55.220 A lot of these already are circulating, but but they're all troubling.
00:27:59.580 So, for instance, in a 2021 interview and this one has caught a lot of people's attention in recent days, she described the First Amendment as the top challenge in the fight against disinformation.
00:28:11.660 It was a challenge.
00:28:13.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:13.960 That's right.
00:28:14.560 It's a challenge because, quote, it's a little bit tricky to really address some of the real challenges of where there's bad information come from and sort of the influence peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
00:28:28.720 And by the way, when she's talking about disinformation, she means skepticism of COVID-19 vaccines, which I know in the lead up to the show, there was mention that AstraZeneca just admitted that is a devastating impact.
00:28:44.580 Well, so that's disinformation, according to the former head of Wikipedia.
00:28:49.640 Also, climate alarmism, that's a no fly for her. 0.99
00:28:53.640 So at an Atlantic Council 2021 event, she says Wikipedia isn't a free expression platform.
00:29:02.640 And so a lot of people are wondering why.
00:29:05.280 And she suggests it's really about creating content that people can have confidence in, that they can use to make determinations in their lives.
00:29:13.940 And so that right to have access to high integrity content often sort of trumps the right to free speech.
00:29:21.100 Now, pair that with the fact that she suggests straight out in a TED talk that, quote, our reverence for the truth might be a distraction.
00:29:33.840 And it's getting in the way of finding common ground in getting things done.
00:29:37.440 So I don't know who that common ground belongs to, by the way, but it certainly isn't free people.
00:29:44.060 Yeah. Yeah, that's fantastic.
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00:29:55.240 Sarah, I think I think we need the cannibal update.
00:29:59.360 Do we have the cannibal update music because I have been very concerned about cannibalism ever since Joe Biden brought it up.
00:30:08.500 And I thought it's cannibalism.
00:30:11.020 You know, we all thought it was over.
00:30:12.840 But then again, we all thought the Soviet Union was over.
00:30:15.320 Right.
00:30:15.880 We thought that threat was over.
00:30:19.200 Cannibalism is real.
00:30:21.360 And it's on display.
00:30:22.860 And it involves, well, let me show you.
00:30:27.700 Here is Nancy Pelosi involved in cannibalism on MSNBC. 1.00
00:30:33.620 And Joe Biden is doing that, created nine million jobs in his term in office.
00:30:39.320 Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president.
00:30:44.520 So we just have to make sure people know.
00:30:47.060 That was a global pandemic.
00:30:48.080 He had the worst record of any president.
00:30:53.160 We've had other concerns in our country.
00:30:55.580 If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role.
00:30:59.740 But it ain't mine.
00:31:00.820 I don't think that anybody can accuse me of that.
00:31:03.160 No, but let me just say, as a speaker of the House, we put forth a $3 trillion bill.
00:31:10.000 $3 trillion of investment in communities and the rest.
00:31:14.340 And that stimulates the economy.
00:31:16.120 Now, I don't know which one is in the pot here, which one's eating the other.
00:31:21.280 But they are eating each other.
00:31:23.000 So cannibalism, another update coming soon.
00:31:26.580 Because it seems to be going around now.
00:31:29.980 And that's a real problem.
00:31:32.340 Now, let's do go to Colombia.
00:31:34.980 Because what happened there yesterday was definitely not an insurrection.
00:31:39.540 Right, Stu?
00:31:40.280 Definitely not.
00:31:41.120 Nothing to see.
00:31:41.480 No insurrection there.
00:31:43.060 No, not at all.
00:31:44.120 It was a protestors, Glenn.
00:31:46.180 Those are protesters peacefully protesting, mostly, in favor of the rapists and murderers in Hamas. 0.72
00:31:55.820 That's all.
00:31:56.380 That's all that was.
00:31:57.560 Okay.
00:31:58.160 Okay.
00:31:58.820 Well, let me show you some things that happened.
00:32:01.600 This is in a library in Virginia.
00:32:05.100 I mean, listen to that noise.
00:32:10.540 The librarian, her head exploded immediately.
00:32:12.820 She was like, shh.
00:32:15.800 They were, riot police were there.
00:32:17.920 They stormed and took over the library at the Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia.
00:32:23.420 And they continued to talk out loud, not in whispers.
00:32:29.340 And it was not good.
00:32:30.900 It was not good.
00:32:32.020 Here is, from UCLA, a Jewish student that is being blocked from using the main entrance.
00:32:42.200 I have my ID right here.
00:32:44.060 I'm being blocked off, not by the security guard, but by you two.
00:32:47.840 You three.
00:32:48.620 Oh, look, they're making their burger while I'm going this way.
00:32:50.580 Excuse me.
00:32:51.000 This is what they do.
00:32:52.220 Everybody, look at this.
00:32:53.080 Look at this.
00:32:54.020 I'm a UCLA student.
00:32:55.180 I deserve to go here.
00:32:56.660 We pay tuition.
00:32:57.460 This is our school.
00:32:58.760 And they're not letting me walk in.
00:33:00.480 My class is over there.
00:33:01.420 I want to use that entrance.
00:33:02.980 Well, I can't take it.
00:33:03.500 Will you let me go in?
00:33:04.960 This could be over in a second.
00:33:06.220 Just let me and my friends go in to class.
00:33:09.300 Then you can move.
00:33:13.100 Will you move?
00:33:14.740 We're not engaging.
00:33:16.100 Okay, we're going.
00:33:18.060 We're not engaging.
00:33:19.240 I'm going in.
00:33:20.740 I don't, I have my hands up.
00:33:21.740 His hands are up.
00:33:22.360 I'm not hurting them.
00:33:24.180 I'm not hurting them.
00:33:25.780 That's what they do.
00:33:26.660 That's what they do, everybody.
00:33:28.200 You guys are promoting aggression.
00:33:30.660 You guys are promoting hate.
00:33:32.560 We're UCLA students.
00:33:33.300 We deserve to be there.
00:33:36.300 True, but he's forgotten all the microaggressions.
00:33:39.480 Stu, your thoughts.
00:33:40.860 Oh, well, I mean, I think we should give an award to the security guard who stands there
00:33:46.080 and does absolutely nothing and allows them to block this person's progress as he's trying
00:33:51.320 to go to class.
00:33:52.400 That's just like, wow.
00:33:53.660 You know, he should get a Hamas award. 1.00
00:33:56.500 Congratulations to him.
00:33:58.940 I mean, that's completely, completely unbelievable that they're allowing this to go on.
00:34:05.800 And it's happening in, you know, campus after campus after campus.
00:34:10.380 Did you see the latest polls that Americans are for Israel?
00:34:15.260 By, I think it's like 80%, something like that.
00:34:18.380 For Israel. 0.59
00:34:19.240 I know.
00:34:20.100 I was talking to somebody, they're like, oh, man, that's good to see.
00:34:23.100 Because you do see in the media a lot of times it feels like, I don't know, this is like
00:34:27.020 some close call.
00:34:28.280 And Americans are like, what is it, 75-25 in favor of Israel over Hamas.
00:34:33.580 And I said, that's terrible.
00:34:36.200 75% of people Israel over Hamas? 0.61
00:34:40.320 Not even like a hidden, oh, the Palestinian people or whatever they usually pitch. 1.00
00:34:45.680 No, this is the actual recognized terrorist group was used in the poll.
00:34:51.440 This should be 99 to 1.
00:34:53.680 75% sucks for that poll.
00:34:56.680 I guess, I guess I've just been beaten down so far.
00:35:02.660 I'm just like, oh, that's good.
00:35:04.640 12 people in America are still for the Jews.
00:35:09.100 It's a little beaten down by, you know, just a little bit.
00:35:12.780 Do you see what the University of Florida said yesterday?
00:35:16.400 That they're not going to tolerate it.
00:35:18.860 They are not a preschool.
00:35:20.780 You know the rules.
00:35:22.100 You break them.
00:35:23.040 You're out.
00:35:23.660 Boy, I can't imagine living in that fascistic society of Florida.
00:35:31.100 Can you imagine that?
00:35:31.960 They hold you to the rules.
00:35:33.280 You sign, you know, when you sign up for school, you read the rule book.
00:35:36.320 You're breaking the rules.
00:35:37.640 You're out.
00:35:38.540 Where everywhere else, they're negotiating with these people, you know?
00:35:43.160 And I just think negotiating with terrorists is such a smart idea.
00:35:48.440 It's so, it's, well, so today, you know, so open-minded, so woke, so great.
00:35:55.820 So one of the, I think it was Northwesterns negotiated to have Palestinians, you know, come up and speak on campus.
00:36:06.160 So they're going to get some, I don't know, Hamas members.
00:36:09.400 Why not?
00:36:09.840 I mean, they did it with the Nazis. 0.81
00:36:11.040 They literally did this exact same thing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
00:36:15.660 Why should we expect a different outcome?
00:36:17.900 It's the same kind of people, the same group of people.
00:36:23.060 They're fine with that.
00:36:24.400 Totally fine with that.
00:36:25.760 By the way, Spielberg is now doing propaganda for Joe Biden.
00:36:32.180 I mean, no, he's not.
00:36:33.740 He's just, he's looking into ways, it's not propaganda.
00:36:37.220 He's looking in ways to enhance the president's message and help that message get out, like Nancy Pelosi just did.
00:36:44.860 I love that.
00:36:46.380 She was shocked when somebody in the media turned around and said, it was a pandemic.
00:36:51.000 But that's what everybody says.
00:36:52.340 Play that again.
00:36:53.200 That's what everybody says to their television when they hear that stat.
00:36:57.280 Everybody says that.
00:36:59.280 And Joe Biden is doing that.
00:37:01.540 Created 9 million jobs in his term in office.
00:37:04.960 Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president.
00:37:10.660 So we just have to make sure people know.
00:37:13.180 That was a global pandemic.
00:37:15.860 He had the worst record of any president.
00:37:19.320 We've had other concerns in our country.
00:37:21.740 If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role.
00:37:25.940 But it ain't mine.
00:37:26.880 And she doesn't have any real comeback for it.
00:37:30.680 No.
00:37:30.940 She has never been challenged on that.
00:37:33.280 She's literally stunned in that moment that someone would point out to her the most obvious thing in the world that every single voter understands.
00:37:43.140 And this is showing up in the polls like crazy that people don't even look at the pandemic as part of Trump's economy.
00:37:49.160 They don't judge it that way.
00:37:50.780 They look at it and they say, well, it was doing really well before this really terrible thing that happened.
00:37:56.340 Obviously, a lot of jobs were lost.
00:37:58.520 And obviously, the American people wound up coming back to work after it was over.
00:38:04.860 And Biden's trying to take credit for all that.
00:38:06.620 And the most fascinating part about this is if you're going to criticize Trump on his performance in the economy when it comes to the pandemic, you're going to hit him on the shutdowns, right?
00:38:16.360 Like he was in favor of the shutdowns early, which, OK, I think that's a fair criticism.
00:38:21.060 Certainly from the right, it's a fair criticism. 0.97
00:38:23.260 However, the Democrats supported every single one of those policies and tried to drag out the shutdowns for another year and a half after Trump stopped supporting them.
00:38:30.760 So there's absolutely no argument whatsoever.
00:38:33.900 Everybody knows.
00:38:35.100 Everyone remembers COVID-19.
00:38:37.860 Everyone remembers the period.
00:38:39.180 Everyone remembers being told they couldn't go to work anymore for a few months.
00:38:43.560 Everybody remembers this.
00:38:44.760 And the fact that they keep trying to pitch this is so insultingly stupid that Katie Tour can't even let it happen on MSNBC. 0.99
00:38:51.880 And she's called a Trump apologist for it. 0.98
00:38:54.440 Yeah, she's just...
00:38:56.440 Katie Tour, she is not... 0.97
00:38:59.200 She's not a conservative?
00:39:01.080 No.
00:39:01.320 She's not even anywhere close to that.
00:39:03.440 She can't stand Donald Trump.
00:39:04.700 She can't stand him.
00:39:05.840 No!
00:39:05.980 She's just...
00:39:06.700 Fair is not even a word.
00:39:08.580 She's embarrassed by the point that Nancy Pelosi is making.
00:39:11.600 She feels that the internal pull to...
00:39:15.040 She has to point it out.
00:39:16.520 It's such a stupid point.
00:39:18.320 And I feel like I actually, Glenn, have a bit of sympathy for certain Democrats in these moments.
00:39:23.940 Where like, you know, Katie Tour, who's obviously no conservative, is like,
00:39:27.900 what do you mean a Trump apologist?
00:39:30.000 Look at what I've...
00:39:30.740 Look at my record.
00:39:31.600 I've done nothing but bash Trump for years and years and years and years.
00:39:34.740 The same thing with Joe Biden.
00:39:36.340 He's being criticized as genocide Joe.
00:39:38.920 He's done so much to hurt the Jews.
00:39:42.060 Why are you...
00:39:42.640 Why are you...
00:39:43.700 He's done so much to ruin their ability to kill terrorists and stop their people from being raped.
00:39:52.340 He's done so much.
00:39:53.740 He's contributed so much to this cause.
00:39:55.340 And these protesters won't give him credit for it.
00:39:58.140 I think...
00:39:58.800 I personally think that this is...
00:40:00.740 Genocide Joe is...
00:40:02.020 It's better to call him Genocide Joe from our side than their side. 0.99
00:40:07.300 He's been funding the Iranians who wanted genocide on all the Jews. 0.98
00:40:13.220 I mean, he is Genocide Joe. 0.72
00:40:15.880 They're just mixed up on who he wants to help kill.
00:40:19.820 By the way, this is what you would call propaganda.
00:40:23.340 What happened on MSNBC with Nancy Pelosi is propaganda.
00:40:28.620 And she was shocked that there was somebody supposedly on her side that would not play the game.
00:40:35.160 I don't know if you saw the OnlyFans star, Farrah Khalidi.
00:40:43.240 Do we have the audio of her?
00:40:44.940 She was yesterday doing an interview.
00:40:48.560 And she is...
00:40:50.620 You know, she's a big influencer on TikTok. 0.99
00:40:53.320 And here's what she talked about.
00:40:56.480 I started TikTok, like, the spring semester of my senior year.
00:41:00.000 And I was like, f***, I finally have to start applying for law school.
00:41:02.120 And then, like, you know, female privilege. 1.00
00:41:04.380 Life is so easy for a, you know, woman.
00:41:06.100 Obviously, I lucked out.
00:41:07.100 I'm just kidding.
00:41:07.520 I lucked out.
00:41:08.120 And then, you know, TikTok was basically full-time for me.
00:41:10.460 I was taking ads by the time I graduated college from, like, the Biden administration and Planned Parenthood and, like, dating apps and stuff.
00:41:16.540 So it was, like, fully financially, you know, sustained.
00:41:18.980 So you were getting...
00:41:19.600 The Biden administration was buying ads from you?
00:41:21.660 Yeah, I was doing full-on political propaganda.
00:41:23.740 And they would just...
00:41:24.500 Oh, really?
00:41:24.960 With, like, what kind of, like, Biden created 10 million jobs this year?
00:41:27.880 Yeah, honestly.
00:41:28.760 And the funny thing is they're like, do not disclose this is an ad.
00:41:31.820 Because, you know, they're like, technically it's not a product, so you don't have to disclose it's an ad.
00:41:35.180 Because I think they just wanted, like, some edgy girl of color to just tell people. 1.00
00:41:39.300 Like, when they nominated, like, Ketanji Brown Jacks and they're like, can you say, like, as a person of color, you know, that you feel reflected?
00:41:45.260 And it's, like, a white woman emailing this to me. 0.61
00:41:47.120 And she's, like, giving me this script.
00:41:48.460 And I'm like, no.
00:41:49.320 And she's like, please.
00:41:50.000 And I'm like, no.
00:41:50.440 I'll say...
00:41:50.780 I'll, like, talk about the news of it.
00:41:52.140 But I'm not going to be, like...
00:41:53.560 I'm not going to have a white person tell me to be, like, you know, this is how I feel as a person of color.
00:41:57.700 Like, it's just so...
00:41:59.000 I think that black sold me slightly on, like, you know, political propaganda stuff. 1.00
00:42:02.480 So the Biden administration sees, oh, here's this young...
00:42:05.540 Yeah, I mean, they use, like, a conduit.
00:42:07.100 It's not, like, you know what I mean?
00:42:08.040 It's not Biden, but it's...
00:42:09.380 It's not Biden.
00:42:09.960 It's like a third party.
00:42:15.260 Yeah, and the message is, like, because you're a dark-skinned woman, you will be inspired by Ketanji Brown Jackson and all the kids should support her.
00:42:23.500 Yeah, they're, like, basically as, like, another black person, just say that, like, you feel reflected by Ketanji.
00:42:28.300 I'm like, no.
00:42:28.740 I'll talk about, like, Ketanji's background and her accomplishments.
00:42:30.700 But, like, I never...
00:42:31.540 You know what I mean?
00:42:32.240 Like, I'll never...
00:42:33.020 I'm not going to say, like, the corny stuff.
00:42:34.440 Even if it was a brown person emailing it to me. 0.94
00:42:36.080 I'm like, no.
00:42:36.520 That's not, like, how I feel.
00:42:37.660 Like, I don't look at, like, Ketanji and feel like, wow.
00:42:39.900 Yeah.
00:42:42.000 Hmm.
00:42:42.640 Yeah.
00:42:44.040 Yeah.
00:42:44.360 You know what caught me there was, it's not officially a product, so you don't have to disclose that it's an ad.
00:42:55.400 First of all...
00:42:56.240 I don't know if that's true, by the way.
00:42:57.880 Yeah.
00:42:58.940 First of all, I don't think that's true.
00:43:02.500 Second of all, notice that she went along with it.
00:43:09.120 She said, well, yeah, but I'm not going to say the things they wanted me to say.
00:43:14.120 I'll talk about those things.
00:43:16.080 But I'm not...
00:43:16.520 Well, no, you're still engaged in what you know to be propaganda.
00:43:21.820 And you were fine with that.
00:43:26.340 Does anybody feel betrayed?
00:43:27.960 Is anybody worried?
00:43:30.460 Where is the precious news media?
00:43:33.520 Can you imagine if I were doing that and Donald Trump, through surrogates, was paying me to talk about certain things that he had done?
00:43:43.380 And then wanted me to say, you know, and I really feel validated by this.
00:43:48.280 I really do.
00:43:49.120 Because, you know, he likes white people.
00:43:51.820 And I'm a white person.
00:43:53.360 And so I really feel validated by that.
00:43:55.640 And I didn't tell you that he was paying me to say that.
00:43:59.340 It's grotesque for me to say that, even if he weren't paying me.
00:44:04.020 But if he's paying me and I don't tell you, what is wrong with our country?
00:44:10.560 It's amazing.
00:44:11.220 If you can't trust Farha Khalidi...
00:44:15.880 Who can you trust?
00:44:16.720 Who can you trust?
00:44:17.840 Who can you trust?
00:44:18.920 Well, I mean, what's the difference between what Steven Spielberg is now doing for the White House?
00:44:22.960 Steven Spielberg is now helping him orchestrate propaganda and orchestrate, you know, how to lie to the American people and pull it off.
00:44:36.560 What is the difference?
00:44:39.320 Does nobody on the left care about the truth anymore?
00:44:43.480 I think the average Democrat does care about the truth.
00:44:47.080 But the left certainly doesn't.