Glenn Beck and Stephen Hicks talk about the Tucker Carlson interview with Alexander Dugan and why it's important to know who he really is. They also discuss the recent mass shooting at the University of Florida and the reaction to it.
00:01:34.460So much to talk about on today's podcast.
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00:05:28.260And that was not just deviation of liberalism, that was necessary elements of implementation and the victory of this liberal ideology.
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00:06:46.260So what he's saying here is that liberalism, meaning the classic liberalism, where you're an individual, it's not collective, et cetera, et cetera.
00:06:57.320He says the inevitable end is progressivism and then some dystopian future.
00:07:47.140It's the kind of analysis I've argued and many other people have argued as well.
00:07:51.540The 20th century was about some sort of liberalism versus some sort of fascism or national socialism versus some sort of Marxist communism.
00:08:49.840We kind of thought everybody is going to get on board.
00:08:53.000And some sort of liberal, democratic, capitalist, modern future is slowly then going to prevail over the next generation.
00:09:01.520Now, what actually happened, though, was that the fascists, the national socialists, the authoritarians, the communists, the Marxists of various sorts,
00:09:11.640did not simply go away and give up the fight.
00:09:14.120Instead, they started to repackage themselves.
00:09:17.160And then inside the now triumphant West, there were counter movements that started to reassert themselves.
00:09:24.480And then we started to see then by the time we get to 2010, 2015 or so,
00:09:29.840that those counter Western movements inside the West are reasserting themselves and everybody starts to become aware of them.
00:09:37.660And the particularly nasty forms of transgenderism.
00:09:41.700I know I think there is a legitimate version of transgenderism that reasonable and sensitive people will take wear of.
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00:09:58.860So the second part, then, is what Dubin wants to do is to say, and this is the part that you were picking up on,
00:10:05.980that the relativism, the angry activism, the willingness to let everything burn inside the West that we're now confronting with,
00:10:17.160the virulent forms of Islamism that we are now confronting, and so on.
00:10:23.220The total package of anti-Western, anti-liberalisms, where did those come from?
00:10:29.840Now, I agree, those are pathological, they are very destructive.
00:10:34.060But what Dubin is offering is a thesis that says that those anti-liberalisms are themselves an outgrowth of liberalism.
00:13:18.680What we need is a kind of national socialism.
00:13:22.360And he takes the socialism seriously, economic control.
00:13:26.360But it's not going to be a socialism where we take, so to speak, the Russian people and we make them fit into some abstract socialist template.
00:13:35.060We need to take the Russian people, its particular ethnic identity, including its religion, its cultures, its traditions, see it as having a world historical destiny.
00:13:46.360It's going to lead the world to a new, bright future that's not going to be trapped in the old Marxist way.
00:13:56.240And as you're suggesting, it's going to learn from the failures of the earlier versions of fascism and national socialism.
00:14:03.800And what that is going to involve is a willing to be muscular, a willing to be violent, a willing to take ethnicity and nationalism seriously, and not to compromise one jot with capitalism, with any form of Western liberalism.
00:14:21.140So, yes, that's Dugan by the time we get to the late 1990s.
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00:16:49.860Joe is a Blaze News staff writer, and he has been following up on this.
00:16:53.780Joe, take us from the beginning, from the whistleblower, if you will, all the way to Christopher Ruffo, and then let's pick it up from there.
00:17:07.700So, can you tell us the beginning of it, Joe?
00:17:11.700So, Uri Berliner, earlier this month, has this damning expose in the free press, April 9th.
00:17:19.980He goes after NPR after having worked there for a quarter of a century as a senior business editor.
00:17:26.560He suggests that there's zero viewpoint diversity, particularly after John Lansing, the former CEO, had made it an activist organization.
00:17:37.140And then it allied it effectively with the Democratic Party.
00:17:41.000This is a publication, according to Berliner, that didn't want to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:17:47.240That worked with Adam Schiff to push the Russian collusion hoax.
00:17:51.420So, he goes to town on NPR and draws the ire of someone who's not been on a lot of people's radar, and that's Catherine Mayer, or Mayer, I should say.
00:18:03.740So, Mayer comes up with this long response and effectively cusses him out with some more charitable terms, and subsequently Berliner is suspended, and then he resigns.
00:18:19.480So, people start looking into Mayer after this, because she was with Wikipedia before, but I guess flew under the radar for a lot, particularly on the right, or among those who are critical of the government.
00:18:35.040And at first blush, she looks just like another shrill leftist.
00:18:39.840She has the obligatory photo wearing the Biden campaign hat, and she has an unhealthy obsession with race.
00:18:46.500And so, that photo exists, and the tweets speak for themselves.
00:18:51.580But you keep digging, as Rufo has, and you realize really quickly that there is something more going on here.
00:18:59.220From 30,000 feet, she looks like not just a tech-savvy media queen, but someone who spent a lot of time around color revolutions in the Orient.
00:19:10.240Enough to know how they might be replicated.
00:19:27.180What does that mean, she's been around color revolutions?
00:19:29.480Okay, so one of the many interesting posts she's had, and I should note at the outset here that she's a World Economic Forum World Global Leader.
00:19:45.280She's worked with various NGOs that are in the tech, comms, and, well, foreign policy space.
00:19:54.320So around 2010, 2011, and Rufo chronicled her travel itinerary, she's with the National Democratic Institute, and that's a spinoff of the National Endowment for Democracy committed to –
00:20:34.920He said to carve out for the CIA, and other people have said just as much.
00:20:40.860In fact, I think it was Ron Dixon at the New York Times back when, he said the NDI was actively fomenting protests during the so-called Arab Spring.
00:20:51.840So, and by the way, these aren't just –
00:21:01.460It didn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.
00:21:04.140Then, when you go into Ukraine and see what they were doing and the phrases that they were using, saying, you know, we can spread this now.
00:21:14.700We kind of perfected it in the Middle East, and we can spread it.
00:21:18.700And that's exactly what we were doing in Ukraine.
00:21:28.460And so, she's kind of got a pilgrimage to these toppled regimes, in some cases, as they're falling.
00:21:36.200So, Rufo notes that she goes to Tunisia a couple times.
00:21:40.480She goes to Gaziantep in southern Turkey, just as rebels are making inroads along the highway between Damascus and, I believe, it was Aleppo.
00:21:49.520And she actually said not long ago that she – well, she framed the timing differently, but she said in the aftermath of the revolutions, she was doing research on the ground with, quote-unquote, human rights activists and independent journalists.
00:22:45.740In terms of news, she's been critical of the ways that governments have weaponized their state broadcasters, which I think is rich, granted.
00:23:05.080Is she – I mean, why is she – I see that she's traveled the world, that she's with the World Bank and the WEF, and she's been with NGOs, and she's been around revolutions.
00:23:17.840But that doesn't necessarily scream CEO of NPR.
00:23:22.000Well, I think Wikimedia and Wikipedia, which she ran the show for for several years, she demonstrated her bona fides.
00:23:34.000And it was under her reign that it quickly became clear that this was – well, it's supposed to be a repository for human knowledge, right?
00:23:44.660Recently, you talked about how memory is the key to who we are.
00:23:48.800Well, Wikipedia is instrumental to capturing and curating that memory for a lot of people.
00:23:56.040So she might not be a journalist, but she was very much – well, I don't want to suggest there's a causation, because she pretends that the Wikipedia editors are working on their own.
00:24:08.140But while she's in control, there's very much a narrative curation going on, the kind that you might want at a taxpayer-funded state broadcast.
00:24:53.620He says she's come over under different affiliations with the NDI, with World Bank, with USAID.
00:25:01.380And he suggests – and this is going on at Twitter at the time, still called that – he suggests that she might as well have had CIA written on her front.
00:25:12.800And so Slim was in the transitional government.
00:25:15.960He dropped out to protest so-called censorship.
00:25:19.160And he – you know, not entirely the top of the food chain, but someone you might at least want to hear out.
00:25:27.860And so she is prickled by the suggestion.
00:25:31.440She responds saying, I'm no sort of agent.
00:25:35.900You can dislike me, but please don't defame me.
00:25:38.900But then, you know, that brought even more scrutiny because people took notice of the way she framed that response.
00:25:45.840So Christina Pasha, she's on the Santa's team.
00:25:49.500She noted, for instance, okay, well, you may not have been an agent, but you could just as well have been an asset.
00:25:56.340But the CIA element, I think, you know, I haven't seen any incontrovertible proof.
00:26:04.260But it's also largely immaterial because she's actually directly worked with the Biden administration.
00:26:10.360She's worked with and brushed shoulders with all these regime change groups.
00:26:16.960So whether or not she has a CAA on a card somewhere tucked to her desk, she might as well have been.
00:26:24.460And this is part of the group that, I mean, Hillary Clinton in that infamous clip where she said, we came, we saw he died and laughed about it.
00:26:35.320I think who she was talking to at the time might have been Samantha Power, who is, you know, Cass Sunstein's wife, the author of Nudge and somebody who knows how to nudge people into new positions.
00:27:14.060And he said he drew that same connection with power and intimated that Meyer is part of this revolutionary vanguard movement.
00:27:25.880So, you know, they're all in bed together by the by the looks of it, I should say.
00:27:31.160A little bit of dissonance because I don't want to mean tweet.
00:27:33.000But and then you couple this with her public comments and then it lends even more gravity to this.
00:27:43.000Well, her becoming the head of NPR, which was give me give me some of her give me some of her public comments that I may not know.
00:27:50.880OK, well, I did a little bit of a deep dive.
00:27:55.220A lot of these already are circulating, but but they're all troubling.
00:27:59.580So, for instance, in a 2021 interview and this one has caught a lot of people's attention in recent days, she described the First Amendment as the top challenge in the fight against disinformation.
00:28:14.560It's a challenge because, quote, it's a little bit tricky to really address some of the real challenges of where there's bad information come from and sort of the influence peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
00:28:28.720And by the way, when she's talking about disinformation, she means skepticism of COVID-19 vaccines, which I know in the lead up to the show, there was mention that AstraZeneca just admitted that is a devastating impact.
00:28:44.580Well, so that's disinformation, according to the former head of Wikipedia.
00:28:49.640Also, climate alarmism, that's a no fly for her.
00:28:53.640So at an Atlantic Council 2021 event, she says Wikipedia isn't a free expression platform.
00:29:02.640And so a lot of people are wondering why.
00:29:05.280And she suggests it's really about creating content that people can have confidence in, that they can use to make determinations in their lives.
00:29:13.940And so that right to have access to high integrity content often sort of trumps the right to free speech.
00:29:21.100Now, pair that with the fact that she suggests straight out in a TED talk that, quote, our reverence for the truth might be a distraction.
00:29:33.840And it's getting in the way of finding common ground in getting things done.
00:29:37.440So I don't know who that common ground belongs to, by the way, but it certainly isn't free people.
00:37:30.940She has never been challenged on that.
00:37:33.280She's literally stunned in that moment that someone would point out to her the most obvious thing in the world that every single voter understands.
00:37:43.140And this is showing up in the polls like crazy that people don't even look at the pandemic as part of Trump's economy.
00:37:58.520And obviously, the American people wound up coming back to work after it was over.
00:38:04.860And Biden's trying to take credit for all that.
00:38:06.620And the most fascinating part about this is if you're going to criticize Trump on his performance in the economy when it comes to the pandemic, you're going to hit him on the shutdowns, right?
00:38:16.360Like he was in favor of the shutdowns early, which, OK, I think that's a fair criticism.
00:38:21.060Certainly from the right, it's a fair criticism.
00:38:23.260However, the Democrats supported every single one of those policies and tried to drag out the shutdowns for another year and a half after Trump stopped supporting them.
00:38:30.760So there's absolutely no argument whatsoever.
00:41:08.120And then, you know, TikTok was basically full-time for me.
00:41:10.460I was taking ads by the time I graduated college from, like, the Biden administration and Planned Parenthood and, like, dating apps and stuff.
00:41:16.540So it was, like, fully financially, you know, sustained.
00:41:28.760And the funny thing is they're like, do not disclose this is an ad.
00:41:31.820Because, you know, they're like, technically it's not a product, so you don't have to disclose it's an ad.
00:41:35.180Because I think they just wanted, like, some edgy girl of color to just tell people.
00:41:39.300Like, when they nominated, like, Ketanji Brown Jacks and they're like, can you say, like, as a person of color, you know, that you feel reflected?
00:41:45.260And it's, like, a white woman emailing this to me.
00:41:47.120And she's, like, giving me this script.
00:42:15.260Yeah, and the message is, like, because you're a dark-skinned woman, you will be inspired by Ketanji Brown Jackson and all the kids should support her.
00:42:23.500Yeah, they're, like, basically as, like, another black person, just say that, like, you feel reflected by Ketanji.