On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Stephen Moore to talk about the impact of the Trump administration's new tariffs on steel and aluminum. Also, the First Liberty Institute's Hiram Sasser and Steve Dace join the show to discuss what needs to be done to these judges.
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00:05:03.820So, I mean, the market does matter because it's a kind of forward-looking indicator of where the economy's at.
00:05:09.420But you're right, mostly what people care about is what will this mean for gas prices and what will it mean for going to the store and groceries.
00:05:19.140Listen, I think my summary – and we talked about this the other day on your show – is that Trump is right that it is not a level playing field.
00:05:28.700And it is true that these other countries have been ripping us off.
00:05:31.580And, you know, I've been doing a lot of interviews, as you can imagine, over the last 24 hours on this.
00:05:36.360And, you know, especially with a lot of the foreign press, like BBC and Australia and news and, you know, the French news agency.
00:05:44.760And they're so indignant, you know, about, oh, my gosh, Donald Trump's causing a trade war.
00:06:38.560If Trump can pull this off, and he may well, and he can get these other countries to do what they should do, both in terms of their own interests but also in terms of, you know, treating the United States fairly, then it would work out really well.
00:06:52.720In other words, it would benefit everybody.
00:06:56.440And, you know, the freedom to trade is at the core of what economics is all about, right?
00:07:00.500If you and I trade, Glenn, and I give something to you and you give something to me, by definition, we're both better off.
00:07:07.220And so I do hope that we – I hope that outcome happens, but I'm nervous about it.
00:07:12.440I think that we're already seeing – so, for example, the – I have about six or seven manufacturing companies that are part of my institute, and they're good, you know, supporters of what I do.
00:07:24.660And they're frantic right now because they're saying, look, we, you know, we get our aluminum from, you know, Vietnam.
00:07:32.080We get our, you know, our parts from Mexico.
00:07:34.840We get – I mean, our economy is highly globally integrated, and that makes it – it's why the reason we have the most efficient economy in the world.
00:07:42.380So now they're running into supply chain problems because they don't know if they can get the aluminum.
00:07:47.400They don't know if they can get the parts, you know.
00:07:48.880So the factories, you know, are only running at, say, half capacity.
00:07:53.540So there is going to be – I want to be clear about this.
00:07:57.080There will be short-term pain, no doubt about it.
00:08:00.360The question is, how long will that last, and when do we get to the good part where these other countries start cooperating and we create more jobs here in America?
00:08:08.120Do you believe Europe when they say, fine, and we're going to unleash our own war back on you?
00:08:14.260If that happens, then we're in a trade war, and that's really, really bad.
00:08:19.100But it would be insane for the Europeans to do that because, listen, Trump – again, I said this on your show the other day, but I'll say it again.
00:08:30.060You have to read his book, The Art of the Deal.
00:08:32.500By the way, I would recommend that to anybody in their 20s or 30s, you're getting your career started.
00:08:36.820Read that book because Trump is so insightful in that book, and it's very simple, Glenn.
00:08:40.960If you and I are at the negotiating table, and we're negotiating something, and you have leverage over me, you're probably going to win that negotiation, right?
00:08:49.160And if I have leverage over you, I'm probably going to win the negotiation.
00:09:46.560But is that the actual goal of the policy?
00:09:48.600Because if the policy is to bring jobs and manufacturing back here, if everyone wipes their tariffs to zero, which would be my preferred outcome, wouldn't affect that, right?
00:10:01.360It is – I mean, I think it's mostly to do just that so that we have a level playing field and that countries stop, quote, ripping us off, as the president would say.
00:10:11.720And that would mean we would be able to – you know, for example, our agriculture industry.
00:10:15.960You know, we are the breadbasket of the world.
00:12:03.060You know, the United States is the biggest market in the world by far.
00:12:06.520And one of the things that has made America – many, many things have made America the most powerful and prosperous country in the world.
00:12:12.940But one of them – think about this, Glenn – the United States is one giant free trade zone.
00:12:18.640You know, South Carolina can't put a tariff on North Carolina, right?
00:12:22.860And so that's one of the reasons we've – you know, we are so prosperous.
00:12:28.120You know, the apples from Washington State are produced in Washington, and then, you know, the microchips are made in Texas.
00:12:34.480Stephen, I was saying just a minute ago that what people have to understand is there is half of the world, Western world, maybe more than half, is just managing the decline of the West.
00:13:01.100And so he is shedding all of these things from the last 100 years because they have to be shed.
00:13:08.840But especially Europe and anybody who's in with the WEF, they are saying, well, but we're never going back to a free society with, you know, the Bill of Rights and all of these things.
00:13:22.040It's got to be a globally run, managed society.
00:13:51.260I mean, we are going to, we dominated the internet age.
00:13:54.220You know, we created these incredible companies like Google, Amazon, NVIDIA, you know, these companies that became trillion dollar companies.
00:14:03.280You know, just our magnificent seven have more market value than every single company in Europe combined.
00:14:09.940So we have so dominated the technology sector.
00:14:12.580The big next thing, you see, if I have one problem with Trump is saying, what's it does, manufacturing jobs.
00:14:19.680Of course, we want a manufacturing sector.
00:14:21.460We don't want manufacturing workers to lose their jobs.
00:19:48.160Well, look, they've really ramped up the cost.
00:19:51.440What's fascinating, by the way, Glenn, is that the left complained about nationwide injunctions when they were applied, when, you know, all like, you know, basically 14 of them were applied to the Biden administration.
00:20:04.660What people don't understand, really, is that there's only two institutions that can fix this problem of nationwide injunctions.
00:20:15.320Either the Supreme Court's going to have to put an end to it, which they can, or Congress is going to have to put an end to it, which they can.
00:20:21.520But there's no way, really, from a legal standpoint, to stop until we get to one of those two inflection points.
00:20:30.840But what I think is very, very critical is that if you would look, like you look at Judge Kaczmarek, for example, when he enjoined the FDA's approval of abortion drugs.
00:20:43.280One of the things that he did was he actually halted his order for a week to allow for an emergency appeal by the United States.
00:20:53.460Like what Judge Boasberg was doing, you know, turning the planes around.
00:20:57.420I mean, that's just, that's beyond the pale.
00:21:00.900Now, he, even with the power to issue a nationwide injunction, a district court judge should give the government the opportunity to do an emergency appeal in order to be able to have somebody else grade their papers.
00:21:14.020And unfortunately, that's, this isn't about the rule of law.
00:21:17.040This is about trying to control the policy, and that's the big problem.
00:21:19.640Right. I mean, when, you know, the left cheered when Joe Biden didn't just go against the district court, he went against the Supreme Court and said,
00:21:29.240well, they told me I couldn't spend this money, which is clearly unconstitutional.
00:21:34.480And, you know, we're just going to give all these refunds and pay all these people's school bills.
00:24:11.820You remember all those attacks on judges?
00:24:14.360I mean, Judge Kaczmarek in Amarillo had a billboard just outside his neighborhood to remind his kids of what a horrible person he is, all right?
00:24:24.880And we don't – you don't see the – I never saw the Federal Judges Association issue a statement defending the judicial independence of Judge Kaczmarek.
00:24:34.400And that's why Judge Ho actually resigned recently from the – he's out of Fifth Circuit.
00:24:38.800Judge Ho resigned from the Federal Judges Association because he didn't – he basically couldn't stand – what he said was he couldn't stand the hypocrisy of what was going on
00:24:49.000with the fact that they now issued a statement trying to defend the independence of the judiciary because of, you know, all this rhetoric about these judges are – you know, that's a threat to judicial independence.
00:25:26.420They're debating it now, hopefully, that they can address nationwide injunctions.
00:25:30.620Look, one last thing I'll say, Glenn, is this.
00:25:32.340When we represented Navy SEALs to sue the United States Navy because of the COVID vaccine mandate violating their religious – their religious objections to the – to taking the vaccine, we had Navy SEALs.
00:25:45.000We didn't do a nationwide injunction at First Liberty.
00:26:27.320And they've already like, yeah, you know, wait until you see what's coming next fall.
00:26:32.140How did – what – what are you talking about?
00:26:34.220How are you planning all these lawsuits in advance?
00:26:37.000Well, it – well, it – look, it's called lawfare.
00:26:39.420This is – this is – the left has always been – has always been better at it.
00:26:44.360Have you noticed, you know, they always have to – now they have to attack – the left has to attack the Supreme Court.
00:26:48.960You know, we had to come out in great defense of judicial independence.
00:26:52.340You know, the left loves judicial independence for their district court judges, but they never talk about it for the Supreme Court.
00:26:56.920They don't mind the protesters outside Justice Kavanaugh's house, you know, with his daughters, like, looking out the window to see people, like, chanting, you know, death to their dad, right?
00:27:07.240Like, the left doesn't care about the attacks of the Supreme Court.
00:27:10.720Because they don't feel like that those are – that they own that court anymore.
00:27:14.660But if you go back in time when the left had a stranglehold on the U.S. Supreme Court, you go back 20 years, oh, oh, the American Bar Association, the ACLU, all they ever talked about was judicial independence.
00:27:26.700All they ever talked about was defending the judiciary.
00:27:29.740Look, it's not about principle for the left.
00:34:16.480If you want to run the data centers, the factories, the server farms, the electric vehicles, all without choking our air, and all without depending on any foreign oil, nuclear is not an option.
00:34:32.080And if we would pursue this new technology, it's already here.
00:34:37.200If our government would help by just deregulating, not the crazy stuff, well, actually deregulating the crazy stuff, not the protections against the crazy stuff.
00:34:48.100Make sure these things are safe, but build them.