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00:02:19.020 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program steve baker investigative journalist joins us

00:02:33.160 now hello steve hey glenn how are you well uh i'd be better if your story wasn't popping up on my radar

00:02:41.740 um you tell me tell me how much of your uh videotape that you you have it's it's pretty

00:02:51.760 much all available right you're not hiding anything no i'm not hiding anything at all i mean other than

00:02:57.360 the um unfortunate video that i took that day where i you know filmed my shoelaces uh at certain

00:03:04.480 points getting jocciled around in the crowd but other than that it's right it's pretty much all out on

00:03:09.360 the internet right and when you when they originally called you a couple years ago you said hey if you

00:03:16.580 need the tape you want anything you can you can have it i'll turn it over to you right yeah that's

00:03:22.020 exactly what happened i did a two-hour interview back in october of 21 and then they uh threatened

00:03:28.440 to be with prosecution in november of 21 and then after that initial threat we didn't hear from them

00:03:35.060 again for 20 months and that happened on this past friday and what did what was it exactly that

00:03:42.760 they were threatening you with prosecution for what well this is this is the absurdity of the original

00:03:49.320 threat my attorney received a email the week before thanksgiving of 21 from assistant u.s attorney

00:03:57.360 anita eve in pennsylvania saying that his client meaning me would be charged within the week

00:04:04.260 and then there were some additional back and forths in which we learned that they were going

00:04:08.200 to charge me first of all with property damage because at one point i stood on a bench inside the

00:04:13.460 crypt area of the capitol building i didn't damage the bench but i was standing up to get above the

00:04:19.480 crowd so that i could film what was going on and then the most absurd charge of all was that they were

00:04:24.520 actually going to charge me with and you're not going to believe this interstate racketeering

00:04:28.980 uh i'll let that sink in for a second yeah anyway let me say interstate racketeering

00:04:36.720 yes i'm trying to make that work how how did they make that work in their heads

00:04:43.900 well assumably i must have known about an illegal event that was taking place in dc on january 6th

00:04:53.540 therefore i colluded apparently with someone else traveled across state lines and then profited

00:05:00.240 from the licensing of my videos to hbo etc etc this is insane this is insane we all knew i was on the

00:05:11.160 air two days before or the day before saying please don't go to washington you don't know what's

00:05:16.940 going to happen you don't know the infiltration you don't know who's good who's bad please don't go

00:05:22.500 to washington um because i felt that there was well this kind of danger um especially from the federal

00:05:28.940 government uh and and now what because you went you had foreknowledge please everybody all of the

00:05:39.740 press was there on january 6th they were all there oh yeah there was at least a hundred uh reporters and

00:05:47.640 and journalists of all types independent and otherwise including uh some uh at least one

00:05:53.400 from the blaze at the time was there inside the building and then of course the the absurdity of

00:05:59.880 that is is that somehow little old me from raleigh north carolina i had knowledge of a huge illegal

00:06:06.660 event about somehow the intelligence from the fbi the capital police and at all they they didn't know

00:06:12.560 about it yeah except they did know about it and uh you know of course we communicate in the

00:06:19.400 conservative circles through invisible smoke signals at night so of course you knew about it too

00:06:24.340 um now you are only one of five journalists that have been given access to the 4100 hours of january 6

00:06:32.440 video you've been meeting with congress members and congressional investigators uh about the charges

00:06:39.320 or the discoveries that you have found you were going to do i assume you still are going to be

00:06:45.400 releasing a story on the blaze all about this i don't want to get ahead of the reporting here

00:06:50.980 but right do i have that understanding right first you've got all of that correct

00:06:56.880 okay and uh for some reason as we're getting close to publish this story for some reason they come out

00:07:05.920 of the blue to one of the five journalists who have had access to all of this and now they're going to

00:07:12.500 press charges yeah and let me give you kind of an exclusive advanced bombshell on this case my case

00:07:20.600 in particular i mentioned earlier that this original uh effort back in 2021 over 20 months ago was

00:07:29.080 presented to my attorney from assistant u.s attorney anita eve out of pennsylvania she also happens to be

00:07:36.340 the exact same u.s attorney who ordered the swat raid on the pennsylvania abortion clinic protester

00:07:45.580 after his attorneys had cooperated for so many months with them and then she would not return

00:07:53.160 their emails return their calls and then just one day on september 23rd of last year or the year before

00:07:59.160 2019 maybe whatever it was they uh suddenly showed up at his door with the red dots on his chest

00:08:04.060 so how do you feel i mean it's the same person it's the same doj uh the same kind of scenario

00:08:12.000 uh have i mean are you married you have kids have you talked about you know somebody coming to the

00:08:20.320 front door and trying to pound it down with a swat team yeah i i am uh i'm not married but i have two

00:08:27.720 grown children and they are well aware of my activities and what i'm doing i've uh i've forewarned

00:08:34.420 them that this day was potentially coming and uh they're proud of me they're proud of the work that i do

00:08:40.220 and uh they're they're fully supportive of me so i'm not worried about them and their reactions but

00:08:46.460 uh you know i i do have a dog with a uh a loud mouth so obviously i'm concerned that if the red dots come

00:08:52.700 through my bedroom bedroom window at six o'clock in the morning that uh you know we've seen how they

00:08:57.660 treat dogs that bark at them so what does your attorney say uh i i have a couple attorneys i have my

00:09:08.540 local riley attorney and then i engaged a uh an attorney who practices in dc back when the original

00:09:14.780 threats uh prosecution were taking place and they have uh have told me that this is obviously a first

00:09:22.360 of all it's an intimidation um effort by the d of course it is but second but secondly it appears that

00:09:29.020 they're trying to entrap me in some sort of process crime because they didn't subpoena me directly

00:09:35.260 they subpoenaed my videos and so whatever it is that they're looking for is what i think is is that

00:09:42.240 they're going to try and build a case of some sort of obstruction of justice something like that if

00:09:46.460 they find missing elements or things don't line up with all of my stories for the last two and a half

00:09:51.320 years that sort of thing but the um the reality the reality uh glenn is that simply uh moving forward

00:09:59.940 with this myself i have no intention of stopping i mean i was i was warned in the subpoena itself by

00:10:06.480 uh a usa anita eve i mean i just want to read you one sentence from the subpoena cover letter

00:10:13.520 she said although you are not required to do so you are requested not to disclose the existence

00:10:21.660 of this subpoena any such disclosure could impede the investigation being conducted and thereby

00:10:28.100 interfere with the enforcement of law and that's what they're trying to do so trying to entrap me

00:10:33.520 in a process crime uh-huh and they will keep your mouth shut and if you don't if you do what you're

00:10:40.340 doing right now they're going to charge you with obstruction of justice because you were impeding the

00:10:47.140 the law enforcement just doing what it was trying to do jeez that's exactly what it is and and the worst

00:10:55.060 aspect of all of these january six um cases and this is the thing that i've been warning america

00:11:00.680 about through my own uh podcast and and uh blog and etc etc is i've been saying all along with the

00:11:06.900 most dangerous aspect of nearly all of these uh j6 cases is the department of justice focus on speech

00:11:14.100 and the oh yeah um the limiting of speech and it doesn't matter whether you're a parading grandma

00:11:20.500 through the capitol or it was the scary words of an oath keeper leader which by the way had nothing to

00:11:25.760 do with january 6 it's those words that are being used to establish these incredibly ominous precedents

00:11:32.200 in hundreds and hundreds of federal court cases um against political expression by those who

00:11:39.820 deign to think act speak against the approved narrative well you're not alone um uh soon i will be um

00:11:51.260 sharing some things uh that uh i've seen a letter very similar to that in fact had that exact paragraph

00:12:00.500 in it uh and uh my family is being targeted and uh uh it will not stand it will not stand and um

00:12:12.020 uh when we are ready to expose we will um but same with you thank god you are uh brave enough to do this

00:12:21.180 i want to talk to you about what you uh learned on january 6th and what you learned from the 41 hours

00:12:29.200 without getting into the you know the story that you're writing can you give us a little bit of a

00:12:34.620 hint of of what you found we'll do that coming up in in just a second steve baker investigative

00:12:40.560 journalist now being investigated now he's an investigated journalist uh he's just received a

00:12:47.160 jan a grand jury subpoena over the january 6th reporting that he did from the capitol this is bad

00:12:55.020 gang if they will do this i'm telling you they will do this to anyone everything they're doing to

00:13:02.740 donald trump right now is not about donald trump it is about uh it's about ron de santis it's about

00:13:10.560 vivek ramaswamy it's uh uh about you it's about me it's they're saying don't you ever ever even think

00:13:21.660 about challenging us because we have all of the tools and one way or another we will destroy you

00:13:29.880 or your family or your loved ones i i don't want to get into it now but i had a real spiritual experience

00:13:37.220 where i believe uh at one point satan just grabbed me by the throat and he said you think you think you

00:13:46.080 know how i can destroy you i will destroy and tear your family apart uh that is exactly what our

00:13:56.500 government is doing steve can you give us a little uh uh hint of what you've found and also can you tell

00:14:07.180 us do you think that this is because of your ongoing work when looking being one of the five

00:14:15.240 that have seen all of these uh videotapes or is it just a coincidence well it would be easy to uh

00:14:25.940 get conspiratorial about it because the timing is uh absurd and it's it's obviously suspicious

00:14:31.660 but in terms of what i've found and i and i do believe that they are aware of what i'm looking

00:14:37.240 at because i have been working directly not only with actual congressional investigators i've been

00:14:42.460 working with uh the oversight project uh investigators from the heritage foundation after the discoveries

00:14:48.360 that i've made i felt like that it was important that i not keep this to myself as being the sole

00:14:54.540 person uh with this information so i've read about 10 people in including obviously the blaze

00:15:01.540 into this this particular story but it all began for me when i began to watch the courtroom proceedings

00:15:08.880 themselves i was actually there every single day of the first oath keepers trial for nine weeks and i

00:15:14.020 was in in the media room of the courthouse uh covering that event and then what i learned was and this

00:15:21.780 was you know i wouldn't say it was shocking to me but it was it was uh definitely stark and that was

00:15:27.820 that i was seeing the department of justice and the fbi colluding in creating evidence that didn't

00:15:34.780 exist out of whole cloth and then also of course suppressing exculpatory evidence that should have been

00:15:40.680 allowed into those trials and so after viewing that there was a there was a particular moment which i won't

00:15:46.440 give away right here because it would reveal what the story is itself that i had this this eureka moment

00:15:52.440 and i went oh my god this is a conspiracy under the part of the department of justice to convict these

00:16:00.220 men and i think i can find it well it took many months before i was finally granted access to that

00:16:05.940 41 000 hours worth of tape so i knew what i was looking for when i got there and i had about six or seven

00:16:11.680 other stories that i wanted to review during the three days of access that i had but as i began working

00:16:17.700 on this one particular story it became a day then two days and then i ended up spending all three days

00:16:22.980 on it because it became bigger and bigger and bigger so while i won't reveal what that story is right now

00:16:28.500 because we'll do that later when the time is right but the point is is that i have i'm just telling you

00:16:34.440 i'm telling the country right now i have found the kill shot of actual department of justice fbi collusion

00:16:40.480 in suppressing evidence and also in creating evidence that does not exist can you when when

00:16:49.320 are you expected to release this has this the delayed things i know the only delay that we're facing

00:16:57.380 right now is that the um mccarthy team there at the uh the house offices where these these videos are

00:17:07.280 archived and presented they've hit they've hit the pause button on access i need about two more days

00:17:12.940 in there to tighten it up button it up you know make sure that there's no loose ends and then uh i have

00:17:18.600 been told that i will have a first shot back into the video room once they uh issue a press release on

00:17:27.360 their new media guidelines policies and procedures because the mainstream media coalition the new york

00:17:32.220 times politico etc etc yes sued sued the government for access because of the exclusive stories that

00:17:40.900 tucker was given access to at the time so in response to that they've had to create this new

00:17:45.480 policy where they're going to grant everyone access and that i have been promised by those congressional

00:17:51.240 staffers that i'm going to be first in that was supposed to be today but that policy still has not

00:17:56.900 been released yet andrew i'm anxious to see what you have uh keep digging continue to stand we will

00:18:06.840 pray for you and your family uh keep us up to speed on what's happening to you personally and we will

00:18:12.480 look for your story with the blaze hopefully very soon and uh we want to thank steve for being on with

00:18:20.140 us thank you steve this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for

00:18:23.960 listening welcome to the glenn beck program we're glad you're here uh it's been uh incredible the

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00:18:45.120 the algorithm uh so new people will discover the show andrew bailey is with us now he is he was just

00:18:52.160 sworn in as the attorney general of the state of missouri just last his 23 yeah last uh january

00:18:59.760 he's a constitutional conservative he is a former uh military uh veteran he is two he has two army

00:19:08.440 achievement medals army accommodation medal combat action badge and two bronze stars he is currently

00:19:15.600 focused on protecting the constitution enforcing the laws as written defending the state of missouri

00:19:21.900 supporting the county's and training a whole new generation of service-minded attorneys which is so

00:19:28.000 important he's going to be in front of the fifth circuit court of appeals on thursday tomorrow and he's

00:19:35.620 going to be arguing on behalf of you and the state uh trying to get the stay that he has already won

00:19:43.380 from the court that the government cannot continue to coerce and collude with social media companies

00:19:51.900 to censor free speech he is with us now hello sir how are you doing well and thank you so much for having

00:19:59.500 me on you bet so uh by the way you're a great replacement for your fight your your last attorney

00:20:06.900 general who's now in uh who's now the senate uh of the united states um you've already won in a lower court

00:20:15.880 you are just saying you believe and i do too this is the biggest violation of freedom of speech in our

00:20:22.800 nation's history covid was the trojan horse and you've got us you got to stay so you can you can

00:20:32.780 the government has to stop doing this what is the argument against this well that's a great point

00:20:41.900 and this is all about protecting our constitutional right to free speech you know the left has bought

00:20:47.660 in completely that the government somehow gets a say in what we should and shouldn't be talking about

00:20:53.260 on big tech social media that they get to any any viewpoint that they disagree with they will label

00:20:58.060 misinformation disinformation or malinformation and then will demand censorship of that speech on big

00:21:04.720 tech social media and it doesn't just harm the speaker it harms the listeners as well the right

00:21:09.400 to free speech is not just the one saying the words it's the one receiving the words and so this is a

00:21:14.240 correct the worst first amendment violations in this nation's history you know history is not going

00:21:19.580 to look kindly on the position the left has taken on this and it's amazing that the very people who are

00:21:24.960 supposed to be quote-unquote protecting us from misinformation are actually spreading misinformation

00:21:29.340 by denying the what core political speech is and it's the legacy of freedom of protecting that speech

00:21:36.060 in this nation's history i'm trying to get i'm trying to look up uh on one of the books i've narrowed

00:21:42.900 it down to two books that i've written and i can't remember which one but i talk about the sedition act

00:21:48.580 um and the arguments back and forth and the the founders and the people that were involved in the

00:21:56.140 alien and sedition act uh with john adams and thomas jefferson the they had brutal discussions and

00:22:04.500 they finally came down on the fact that even lies knowing lies need to be protected otherwise the government

00:22:15.660 is the arbiter of of all truth and we know that freedom of speech is to make sure that you can

00:22:25.260 keep the government in check that's one of the most important parts of the first amendment is to be able

00:22:31.340 to keep the government in check and if they can tell us what to say and not to say and they can say

00:22:39.440 nope that's a lie that's not true if they're the arbiters of that then there is no freedom of speech

00:22:47.420 to protect yourself against an out-of-control government so the first amendment is meaningless

00:22:52.880 that's absolutely right i mean and i personally believe that the like the founders that the rights

00:22:58.580 codified in the bill of rights come from god not man and the whole purpose is to protect us from

00:23:03.240 government that the idea that we would put the right to free speech free freedom of the press and

00:23:08.280 freedom of religion in the same very first amendment because their rights of conscience

00:23:12.760 you know that make that symbolizes and signifies how important those rights are to the founders and

00:23:17.580 that legacy of freedom that we've inherited from previous generations that and it's up to us to

00:23:21.740 protect it and it just like the sedition act you know history does not look kindly the sedition act

00:23:25.740 was wrong when it happened correct and but it but you know a huge distinction the sedition act was

00:23:30.780 passed by the people's elected representatives now they made a legal error in in passing that legislation

00:23:35.480 but this is being done by federal bureaucrats with no congressional authorization so it's actually

00:23:39.740 even work correct correct correct um you do you believe that covid was the trial run for all of

00:23:48.820 the it gave them the cover to be able to figure out how to just circumvent entirely the first amendment

00:23:57.320 and and really get it down with these social media companies yes covid was the excuse that allowed the

00:24:04.180 federal government or or encouraged the federal government to coerce and demand censorship on

00:24:10.980 big tech social media and they did that by threatening to repeal section 230 of the communications decency

00:24:15.800 act which is the the economic boon to these companies that have allowed this this monopoly to grow and when

00:24:21.620 president biden from the white house law and said facebook you're killing people we're going to take

00:24:25.740 care of business if you don't up your censorship game that's a coercive threat and look at the emails that

00:24:30.960 came out in the facebook files that congressman jordan released just within the last few weeks

00:24:34.940 i can in my discovery in my lawsuit i can show you the the rock being dropped in the pond and how the

00:24:41.060 specific demands from the white house and across a spectrum of bureaucratic agencies to big tech saying

00:24:46.720 hey take down these posts de-emphasize that speech de-platform that those those speakers but what

00:24:51.860 congressman jordan has shown you is the ripples in the pond what was going on internally to facebook

00:24:56.660 as they were receiving these demands from the federal government and clearly yeah understood

00:25:01.320 that they were acting at the the demand of joe biden's white house and that they understood they were

00:25:07.320 violating the first amendment this is scary stuff

00:25:09.720 i go back to my first question i know the democratic attorney generals uh have uh filed a friend of a

00:25:21.340 court uh brief an amicus brief uh to support joe biden's position what is their what's their

00:25:29.860 argument they believe that it's a public safety issue that the people can't be trusted to have

00:25:36.160 free fair and open debate i mean think about how frightening that is if i'm on the fifth circuit

00:25:39.700 court of appeals if i'm one of the the judges on the three judge panel that's going to hear oral

00:25:43.940 argument this week i'm going to look at the department of justice in the face and say

00:25:47.500 why is big tech social media any different would you be allowed to mute a cell phone

00:25:52.480 if glenn beck and andrew bailey were talking on a cell phone and said things you didn't like would

00:25:56.900 you be able to redact in a newspaper would you be able to silence uh you know a talking head on

00:26:03.320 on the television why is big tech different the founding fathers understood that freedom of speech

00:26:07.560 is a timeless principle it didn't matter that in 1700s it was pamphlets in the 1930s it was radio

00:26:13.040 in the 1950s television the 1990s it was internet now it's big tech that doesn't matter

00:26:17.280 the timeless principle remains the same and so why is big tech any different

00:26:21.460 so you know the first amendment i think people just think that it's i have a right to say these

00:26:29.900 things the the the whole bill of rights was meant to control the government to handcuff the government

00:26:38.020 and there are five rights in the first amendment the first one is freedom of religion

00:26:43.840 why did they have that because the government had colluded and become a state religion and so

00:26:52.420 religion was controlling people in cahoots with the government so that's why you don't have to be

00:27:00.400 freedom of religion government can't establish anything with religion you you don't have to belong

00:27:07.140 to a certain religion you can be an atheist if you want it doesn't matter the government cannot

00:27:12.140 collude or tell religion what to do the next one is freedom of speech because as you pointed out the

00:27:18.440 pamphlets you have to have a right to communicate and question things and not just because i have a right

00:27:26.680 to say he's a fatty fat fat so yes we have to tolerate all the speech that we find offensive but it is

00:27:34.320 made mainly so you can question your government same with freedom of the press same with right to

00:27:42.440 assembly you can go and assemble in a group and you have a right to do that because the government

00:27:49.180 was breaking up groups that they didn't like and then the last one is the right to petition your

00:27:56.800 government the entire first amendment is not about hey i have a right to make pornography

00:28:02.300 it is the right to question the government and say they are wrong how how do you how could you

00:28:11.940 possibly lose this i completely agree with you and i would point out too you know that the evidence

00:28:18.280 that we put on it this isn't just andrew bailey making an argument and speculating we put on evidence

00:28:23.240 in court back in may at the district court level and that's what led to the nationwide injunction the

00:28:27.500 evidence that we put on three points to make number one exactly like you said the speech that was

00:28:32.020 censored was core political speech it was people questioning the effectiveness of the government's

00:28:37.500 response to covid that is core political correct was illegal for the government to censor but

00:28:42.280 secondly all the speech that was censored as misinformation ended up being true so the people

00:28:47.420 were denied necessary information upon which they could have made personal health decisions that

00:28:51.460 makes us less safe third the speech that was censored was exclusively conservative it's a

00:28:56.820 viewpoint discrimination because joe biden wants to silence and stifle any political opponent he's

00:29:02.440 willing to weaponize the federal government to do it and violate our first amendment rights in the

00:29:06.540 process what does it mean if we if you lose this tomorrow i mean it'll go to the supreme court but

00:29:14.620 what does it mean if this is if this is not upheld eventually well i have confidence that the

00:29:22.420 court's going to do the right thing here i mean if you read the district court order from july 4th

00:29:26.560 155 pages but the majority of that document is just a recounting an enumeration a recitation

00:29:32.360 of the evidence that we had do that's how voluminous the evidence was in support of our position

00:29:37.420 only a small fraction of the 155 page order was the actual court directing the government what not to

00:29:43.740 do and all the court district court said was that the federal government is prohibited from

00:29:48.940 colluding with big tech social media to silence political speech protected by the first amendment

00:29:54.520 all the court order says is the government can't violate the first amendment what is there to

00:29:59.440 appeal how can the court of appeal not affirm the district court decision what it's okay to violate

00:30:05.440 the first amendment now i mean the department of justice's position is laughable they say well we

00:30:09.420 don't understand what we can and can't do well wait a minute the department of justice

00:30:14.260 attorneys doesn't understand first amendment case law it's laughable i mean if it wasn't our

00:30:19.340 constitutional rights issue it'd be a lot more comical uh i can't thank you enough um andrew for

00:30:27.620 standing up as we're talking to andrew bailey he's the missouri attorney general um we will keep you in

00:30:32.940 our prayers tonight and tomorrow as you prepare and you deliver this argument uh tomorrow this seems like

00:30:39.860 a no-brainer unfortunately there are many people that have no brains uh or have a political agenda

00:30:46.760 that does not coincide with the bill of rights so we'll keep you in our prayers andrew thank you so

00:30:51.180 much thank you so much for having me on we'll keep fighting for our freedom of speech you're listening

00:30:56.220 to the best of the glenn beck program hey jack welcome to the uh welcome to the program i am

00:31:03.000 glenn always a pleasure man thank you shocked at this um this story about andy no and what happened

00:31:11.980 in in this courtroom in portland it is i mean it's it's uh it's absolutely a movie that you wouldn't

00:31:18.860 believe well glenn it's it's even beyond that because one of the only journalists that's actually

00:31:26.960 been covering this every day with katie davis court of the post millennial and yes she's in there not

00:31:34.720 only accosted by antifa throughout the proceedings following the proceedings when when she walked back

00:31:42.060 to her car which was not parked near the courtroom by the way she found that all of her car windows had

00:31:48.460 been smashed items had been stolen she's still going through to figure out what was stolen she's got

00:31:53.860 threats all across her twitter just for the very act of reporting on journalism in which you have a

00:32:03.180 journalist andy no attempting to find some way to receive justice for the fact that his own first

00:32:12.480 amendment rights freedom of the press but we all used to agree on on things like this you know little

00:32:17.360 little basic stuff there uh it's called yeah and he's trying to find some way to get justice for

00:32:25.560 what was done to him because glenn keep in mind this is not the first time andy has attempted to use the

00:32:30.380 legal system uh or at least go to the legal system for some kind of recompense uh he first filed charges

00:32:38.680 for the assault that was later found not he was found if the judge found him guilt or found the andy to

00:32:44.380 be a victim but then also found that the antifa attacker was not liable because he said andy how

00:32:50.720 provoked it he said that andy had provoked it by tweeting about the man earlier than the actual event

00:32:57.340 even though the man tracked andy no to a channel okay so if you say something about you you say some

00:33:06.120 you say something about uh somebody and they have a right to track you down and beat you within an inch

00:33:12.820 of your life huh of course it's a new concept that's justice in portland it's it's a different

00:33:18.420 kind of justice glenn it's a little different than what the founders outlined in the federal

00:33:22.540 it's slightly different uh maybe the sons of liberty it's uh about it yeah it's called social

00:33:28.300 justice now listen um the the attorney tell me about the attorney for the antifa people because i

00:33:35.040 take this as an absolute threat and i'd love your your thought on this well so you're right so this

00:33:40.800 attorney who's representing uh yeah and you actually had two attorneys one representing hacker one

00:33:46.620 representing richter uh who are the two members of what i would say in the military was essentially a

00:33:52.700 targeting cell of antifa now because antifa operates in black block we can't know we essentially don't know

00:33:59.580 exactly who the members of the black block were that's when they dress in black they run up in masks

00:34:05.020 and and beat you within an inch of your life has been done today and you know multiple times

00:34:08.920 and yet he keeps going back because he wants to get the story he is that dogged about this

00:34:14.620 even knowing that has happened in this situation if found out they will do exactly this to him he's

00:34:21.060 doing his job for the post-millennial uh in this case these two individuals we know for a fact

00:34:27.480 targeted andy they doxed him and they were giving live updates in real time on twitter uh as they

00:34:35.620 were chasing andy nose through the streets of portland one night he's gone down this street

00:34:41.380 he's just made a right it's like you're you're in mission impossible and the guys over the year

00:34:45.780 oh he we found him he just went into this uh hotel he's holed up inside the hotel you know the hotel's

00:34:51.920 trying to get rid of him these are the people that in the military we would call this essentially

00:34:56.020 a terrorist targeting cell where they're giving the directions to the terrorists that are on the

00:35:02.680 ground trying to potentially chase uh an operative or maybe an infiltrator an agent maybe even an

00:35:08.900 interpreter like something you would see in afghanistan or syria this was happening on the

00:35:14.740 streets of an american city which oh by the way was around the same time that another member of antifa

00:35:20.480 uh michael forrest reinhold decided to summarily execute a trump supporter on the streets of portland so

00:35:27.240 this is all going around around the same time frame and so andy knows that potentially he could

00:35:33.520 be killed because of the actions by these antifa members this is on video uh you have them actually

00:35:40.560 showing up to the hotel after the beating we have them on video they're egging it on we have their

00:35:45.140 tweets we have their text messages they had signal messages uh ones that came up in discovery but the

00:35:51.240 judge later said the jury wasn't allowed to take a look at because they were deemed immaterial

00:35:55.420 uh they were then found liable and and the the attorney for them essentially stated that it the whole

00:36:05.200 thing came down to this the whole argument came down to well andy does it too because he posts people's

00:36:10.640 pictures after they've been arrested that that's a journalist that that's that i mean every newspaper

00:36:18.580 has done that forever um so you have this you have this uh the attorney and says i'm going to remember

00:36:27.100 all of your faces is that just a uh because you were such a great jury and i just always want to

00:36:33.540 remember you fondly or was that a threat glenn when you're operating a situation like this the jury

00:36:41.100 and and in these courtrooms keep in mind that that justice center of portland is right down the street

00:36:47.360 from where the federal courthouse in portland was ransacked for 57 nights during the george floyd

00:36:56.120 riots by antifa members night after night after night federal law enforcement tried in vain in many

00:37:04.040 chances many cases to arrest and protect the courthouse but they were not allowed out into the rest

00:37:09.160 of the area because the governor didn't allow it the governor didn't uh call for uh call for the

00:37:15.240 the activation of federal assets and so these jurors that are coming in there understand right they

00:37:22.440 implicitly understand that they still have to live in portland they still have to go to work in portland

00:37:29.280 their children their family members elderly family members their friends wherever they're going around

00:37:34.600 they're all still there so that lawyer well says to them i will remember your faces and the judge

00:37:41.360 even said and and glenn it was multiple times throughout the trial that there were threats of

00:37:46.640 doxing of releasing the identities of the jurors that were going on this is the same type of stuff

00:37:52.520 that echoes some of the darkest moments of america's history it is i i mean i honestly if you're a

00:38:00.700 reasonable human being i do not know why after this ruling after everything else but this the way this

00:38:07.440 was done get the hell out of portland and and oregon if this is going to be tolerated you're living in

00:38:15.520 i i don't need i don't even know nazi germany or you're living in some drug cartel company a country

00:38:24.380 this is not america and the and antifa says that they're anti-fascist and they were they were really

00:38:33.660 formed to go against the nazis at the nazis had the brown shirts at the time these were the black

00:38:39.700 shirts they were both just as bad the nazis were uh perhaps a little worse because they had

00:38:47.720 organizing powers in the government which i think is happening here they would get all kinds of breaks

00:38:55.240 uh you know in in court and everything else but they are using exactly this this is the brown shirt

00:39:02.780 army it's just a black shirt army on the streets of america doing exactly what the nazis did to the

00:39:10.040 population to get them to obey turn a blind eye and shut up you disagree with that oh i think that's

00:39:18.140 exactly right and i would even add that they the original iteration of antifa as you correctly

00:39:23.420 described in weimar germany they didn't directly go after the nazis they like to say that today

00:39:30.600 but they actually in many cases worked with the brown shirts because their real target was what

00:39:36.780 they called the fascism of their day what was that it wasn't adolf hitler and the nazi party it was

00:39:43.620 the ruling government it was the republic the republic was their target for destabilization

00:39:50.780 and the later overthrow and so everyone must understand that when they say they're talking about

00:39:55.380 fascism they're they're describing the current government of the republic that's what they define

00:40:02.020 as fascism they define banks as fascism churches any institution in the country uh the legal system

00:40:08.400 itself even though in this case they've threatened the legal system to do their bidding uh that is what

00:40:13.260 they define as fascism and at the time it actually came down directly from stalin that they were to focus

00:40:19.140 on the weimar republic destabilizing it because they thought that they'd be able to take over the

00:40:24.620 weimar republic that's not exactly how it worked out so jack i i would need to take a break and then

00:40:31.280 um you tweeted something results like andy no ruling today show the nature of the fight for 2024

00:40:37.360 if you don't have the guts for that fight get out of the way this is not time for a policy debate

00:40:43.920 uh marques of queen queensburg republicans are not built for this i want to understand exactly what you

00:40:51.720 mean by that um because i think it's really important that we uh we know what each other

00:40:59.900 are saying and what we are preaching for jack what did you mean by that tweet so glenn what i mean by

00:41:07.300 this is that you've got so many republicans up in washington dc and and really throughout the

00:41:13.320 country quite frankly that still think that this is the 1980s the 1990s and we can just go along to get

00:41:20.200 along we can play fair we can sort of you know keep the gloves on and shake hands and you know

00:41:26.540 go hang out with tip o'neill after you know a hard-fought legislation session meanwhile though

00:41:32.280 correct about one side that's willing to use lawfare that's willing to abuse the system that's willing

00:41:38.280 to put political opponents in jail and regardless of what you think of trump that is exactly what they

00:41:44.080 are doing right now they've arrested him right now by my count at the federal level once at the uh at

00:41:50.360 the state level and there's probably another one coming up and so if you've got one side that's

00:41:55.140 willing to use the power of the system against their political opponents and then another side

00:42:01.100 that says oh no we can't do that because that wouldn't be nice which side do you think is going to

00:42:06.600 win so here's my here's my question and i'm uh uh i think this is a discussion that we have to have

00:42:14.940 openly i when i worked at fox roger ale said something to me he said glenn we all love the

00:42:20.720 constitution but at times there are things we just have to do no i'm sorry the bill of rights are the bill

00:42:27.800 of rights and it's the only thing that protects all of us and uh i'm not looking for an unchecked uh

00:42:35.600 power on the right just like i don't want a dictatorship on the left i don't want one on

00:42:41.400 the right george washington said we didn't overthrow one dictator to replace him with another

00:42:46.620 or tyrant is was his word so are you what are you suggesting you're not suggesting that we use

00:42:55.520 extra uh constitutional powers are you well no glenn i mean keep in mind if i was going to be announcing

00:43:03.100 that i wouldn't be posting it on twitter but no in in all seriousness what what we need what we need

00:43:08.540 to be doing what we need to be doing is looking at the powers of government as they are currently

00:43:16.020 constituted for example did hunter biden commit any of these crimes within a jurisdiction that has a

00:43:22.500 republican attorney general or a republican amen in one of these cities why not i am i'll charge

00:43:28.720 100 bank account um yes you've got tommy tuberville right now tommy tuberville is holding up every

00:43:36.720 single higher level uh flag officer appointment promotion within the department of defense because

00:43:44.180 the department of defense is currently allowing illegally by the way allowing for the federal

00:43:49.980 travel funding for the federal travel for abortions these are the types of system shocks that

00:43:57.260 republicans need to start looking at yes the normal course of things is that the way the system is

00:44:02.480 supposed to work yet probably not but is it within the bounds of the constitution of course it is

00:44:07.340 that's what we yeah no i you know that's number one system shock i want system shock republicans

00:44:13.800 and if people like tubers are looking at that that's great jack smith how is he getting funded uh why

00:44:19.280 aren't we bringing jacks why isn't the house matt gates had a thing yesterday why don't we bring jack

00:44:23.840 smith up before the house and make him testify and if he refuses to testify hold him in contempt and

00:44:29.300 see how that works so jack is this a problem that is really revolves revolving around old school

00:44:38.100 republicans like mitch mcconnell that i think are either part of it so old they don't know what's going

00:44:44.900 on they still think it's 1985 because i think chip roy is a patriot is a constitutionalist and he's a

00:44:52.640 shock to the system and every constitutional tool we have we should use

00:44:58.480 well i think that you know this is something that that strauss and how lay out in their book

00:45:05.600 generations where they describe the fourth turning and glenn we are in a fourth turning now we are

00:45:10.580 currently in it the crisis has not ended yet by the way and so they talk about how in in most people

00:45:18.820 within a generation their worldview is concrete it is formed based on the world as it was constituted

00:45:26.940 during their childhood and then they carry that worldview all the way with them forward now that's

00:45:33.240 not to say that corruption doesn't exist that's not to say that people are not bought off that people

00:45:37.640 have been in washington for far too long don't understand what's happening out in the rest of the

00:45:43.380 world because it's like hungarians right now we've got the districts versus the capital and the people

00:45:47.980 within the capital are using and exploiting the districts for whatever they want except you know

00:45:52.980 our war isn't um you know our children are not going to war in uh in uh on tv they're just going

00:45:58.280 over to the hunger games and all these other places and so and we watch that on right we support it

00:46:03.920 through twitter and so the problem is you've got essentially two types right but but the effect is

00:46:08.940 still the same whether or not it's they don't get it or whether it's corrupt the consequences are still

00:46:14.140 the same because whether or not you are willing to face the fourth turning we are in it i agree and

00:46:21.960 if anybody's not reading uh what is it the fourth turning is now or something like that the latest um

00:46:27.360 on the fourth turning you're you're missing out that that is a really really good read uh jack i

00:46:32.540 appreciate it i'd love to sit down and talk to you some more about um these things because i think

00:46:36.380 we are uh we are hitting a moment that the weimar republic hit uh and we have to be extraordinarily

00:46:43.460 careful on how we play this but we have to play it with the brass knuckles of the constitution

00:46:50.780 sorry violation of the bill of rights and the constitution we're going after you and i completely

00:46:58.260 agree where are the local district attorneys that are willing to take on hunter biden and all of

00:47:06.360 those crimes that happen all across america

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