The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Alexandria DeSanctis & Will Maule ｜ 2⧸26⧸19

00:00:00.000 Holy cow. What a great show today. We have Steven Crowder coming up right off of the bat.

00:00:06.840 Then we have Ben Shapiro, who's going to talk a little bit about the national emergency at the border.

00:00:12.700 They're voting on that today. What does that mean? What do we do?

00:00:17.260 Also, Pat Gray is going to stop by, talk about infanticide.

00:00:21.380 I also talk a little bit about that and the new Mike Nike ad.

00:00:25.560 And Will Maul joins us.

00:00:27.380 Yes, lots of it. And you can always see it, by the way, on blazetv.com.

00:00:30.780 I love them.

00:00:31.700 Yeah, they're great.

00:00:32.440 In fact, you should hear breaking news. What Ben Shapiro says about my idea.

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00:01:03.400 Welcome to the program, Stephen Crowder. How are you, Stephen?

00:01:23.080 Hey, you know, I'm doing well. I just saw that ex-chair commercial. Maybe you can get me one of those because this thing sucks.

00:01:30.060 Well, would you give me one of those things on your desk right in front of you? Because that's great. 0.98

00:01:34.720 No, no. Other direction. Other direction.

00:01:37.040 Oh, the Walther. You know what? Yeah, they're a spot. The Walther PPK. Is this what we're talking about here?

00:01:41.040 This is actually made back out of Fort Smith, Arkansas. I don't know if you're – I'm sure you're familiar.

00:01:46.020 I shouldn't – I say this with guests. Like, I don't know if you're familiar because I don't want to embarrass them, but I know that you know.

00:01:50.680 Right.

00:01:50.880 There were all these pieces of legislation that just mounted up, and the Walther PPK you saw on James Bond couldn't be imported into the United States just because it was too small.

00:02:01.640 So they created something called the PPKS, which is the exact same firearm that includes one more round, and they were made in – they licensed it to Smith & Wesson and these other companies.

00:02:11.680 And now they're actually made here in the United States to German specifications. They're wonderful. So I probably can. We'll swap an X chair for a firearm.

00:02:19.720 Okay. I'll get you an X chair. You get me a Walther. And keep it on the QT about the X chair. I don't want –

00:02:25.520 Okay.

00:02:25.880 You can't tell anybody in the government that I gave you a chair. 0.98

00:02:28.940 I'll sign the background check for my buttocks. 0.99

00:02:31.340 Right. Okay. So, Stephen, you had a great show on Sunday night. Very, very funny. 0.99

00:02:38.000 You brought the whole team in, and you had guests, and you – some would say we're mocking the Oscars, which deserves to be mocked.

00:02:49.580 And halfway through – was it even halfway through?

00:02:53.000 No, it was after the very first – first off, you're very generous. It was an okay show.

00:02:57.540 So – but, you know, I mean – yeah, it was right after the very first segment, ABC Disney struck us on YouTube with a hard strike so that they prevented the live stream from continuing.

00:03:08.340 So thank God we're able to – we were actually able to continue that night on Facebook and get this up here, obviously, at the Blaze TV.

00:03:14.980 So you had worked on this for a long time. Tell me exactly what you were doing that Disney objected to.

00:03:20.900 What they objected to – I mean, I don't know. It's take your pick at any point in the program.

00:03:27.640 I think they more so objected to the overall idea of the program.

00:03:30.720 So we've done this for several years now. This is not our first annual Oscars live stream.

00:03:34.680 These are the important things to note. We did this last year. No problems.

00:03:38.260 We have a 16-hour CNN marathon live stream. No problems.

00:03:42.880 I actually did that because it was a follow-up to the previous Christmas telethon where I'd been waterboarded.

00:03:46.900 And I said, well, what's worse than being waterboarded? Let's watch the entire CNN clock.

00:03:52.020 And frankly, this isn't a joke. I would rather be waterboarded.

00:03:56.020 We actually had people quit after the 16 hours. You hear about bands breaking up?

00:04:01.140 It was a 60-hour CNN live stream. People in the back room just toss up their hands and walk.

00:04:05.580 They said, I can't do this. So this was not the first time we'd done this kind of stream.

00:04:09.720 What happened was this year, the second we crossed 40,000, we were well on our way to 50,000 viewers that very second,

00:04:18.060 which I know people say, well, viewers on television, this is very different.

00:04:21.940 This isn't a rolling average. There were 50,000 people at any given second.

00:04:26.560 We were shut off for copyright infringement, which, of course, it's not.

00:04:30.540 We actually are adding up the numbers right now.

00:04:32.060 I think there were 20-something sketches. There were five guests.

00:04:36.340 And I think it's about 98% of the Oscars live stream didn't actually include the Oscars.

00:04:43.040 It was in a little tiny box with us watching it, mocking it, laughing hysterically.

00:04:47.940 And ABC Disney decided to try and not only hit our channel with a hard strike,

00:04:52.480 but a lot of people disconnect when they hear about these things.

00:04:56.080 Everyone here makes a living off of creating content.

00:04:58.700 And what they're trying to do is prevent conservatives from making a living off of content.

00:05:03.680 Another important thing to note, there are plenty of other Oscars live streams,

00:05:07.380 others that are far less transformative.

00:05:09.440 They didn't actually have a shape-of-water fish mascot fixing himself a Manhattan.

00:05:13.940 They just put up a stream, and they're up there.

00:05:16.680 We're the only ones who are targeted.

00:05:18.380 Okay, so let me play devil's advocate here.

00:05:21.020 ABC would say the same thing.

00:05:22.580 Well, we worked very hard to screw this tradition up for many, many years.

00:05:28.700 Yes.

00:05:29.680 And all the people at ABC, and if you can take our product and put it on something else

00:05:36.540 where someone else can watch our product, we lose because you're cutting us out of the thing that we produce.

00:05:46.020 How would you respond to that?

00:05:46.940 Yeah, they could say that.

00:05:48.420 I mean, there's a very clear precedent if it's transformative.

00:05:52.680 And there have been two major lawsuits recently, H3H3 Productions and two equals three productions,

00:05:59.400 I think Ray William Johnson's previous studio at YouTube, where they won fair use fights.

00:06:03.980 As a matter of fact, the law is on our side, the president is on our side, and it's continuing to actually cross over to our side.

00:06:09.320 Here's the thing.

00:06:10.400 Obviously, we couldn't show just a full film.

00:06:13.240 I couldn't say, hey, here's Green Book.

00:06:14.600 Just run it on my channel.

00:06:15.560 That's ripping something off.

00:06:17.020 That's not transformative.

00:06:18.420 We actually had Shia LaBeouf. 0.99

00:06:19.980 Well, I guess his firm, LaBeouf, Ronco Turner, when he did the He Will Not Divide Us livestream.

00:06:26.280 Right.

00:06:26.460 We said, hey, this is funny.

00:06:28.020 We went down to his He Will Not Divide Us camera and did our entire show from his broadcast camera, and they sued us, and they lost.

00:06:36.320 Because it turned out they had a greater viewership when we showed up in Queens to his public camera and did our show than they had at any other point.

00:06:44.080 And it was determined that it was transformative.

00:06:46.400 So you can't just run a film.

00:06:48.140 You can't just rip something off.

00:06:49.640 But for them to have a leg to stand on would mean you can't be a critic, things like Mystery Science Theater couldn't exist, rebuttals online can't exist.

00:06:57.800 We've had this before.

00:06:59.140 We've had, I think, The Guardian and NBC go after us because we specifically point by point debunked something Seth Meyers said or Trevor Noah has said or Samantha Bee.

00:07:10.360 So they've done this for a while.

00:07:11.620 It's not that they don't want to lose out on profiting off of their content. 0.74

00:07:16.260 It's that their content sucks, and they don't want people criticizing it.

00:07:21.260 That's the issue here. 0.95

00:07:22.620 If they wanted to say, hey, let's be honest, too, this is free network television, ABC.

00:07:28.460 Anyone can watch it.

00:07:29.720 And anyone who's tuning in to me is Freddie Mercury from the Live Aid concert.

00:07:33.680 My friend dressed as Spider-Man and Gerald is a gold statue.

00:07:36.760 And us doing a 7 plus 1 canceled Jesse Smollett films bit.

00:07:40.660 These are not people who are going to tune into the Oscars.

00:07:43.280 It wasn't, huh, hold on a second.

00:07:44.740 Do I want to tune in to watch the Spike Lee speech or Crowder of Michael Myers with a blowing up Nike sneaker?

00:07:52.300 Right.

00:07:53.120 So, Stephen, let me broaden this a bit because this is something you and I have talked about just recently on the phone about how they are picking us off one by one.

00:08:04.460 And I don't know if you saw the news today, but Tommy Robinson has been deplatformed because he said he stood by the Proud Boys and Gavin McGinnis.

00:08:18.360 That's the reason. 0.91

00:08:20.500 Yeah, that's pretty silly. 0.56

00:08:21.900 First of all, I don't know enough about the Proud Boys or really what they are.

00:08:24.860 I know they've been looking at Tommy Robinson for a long time, and I've talked with Tommy about this for a while.

00:08:30.540 So they just try to find any reason.

00:08:33.420 That's why it's also important to understand the law.

00:08:35.880 And we're releasing the half-Asian Kraken today. 0.99

00:08:38.000 We're releasing Bill Richmond on ABC Disney.

00:08:40.760 We haven't lost yet.

00:08:42.180 And I've also just heard I can't talk about this exactly.

00:08:44.360 There's going to be a video release from a prominent conservative who does investigative reporting.

00:08:48.520 We just found out again that we were specifically targeted for throttling on Facebook under a bogus label.

00:08:55.700 And, by the way, I was the subject of an Engadget, I believe, article or Gizmodo about two years ago.

00:09:01.440 That's how I met my lawyer, where someone released documents saying, nope, it's not algorithmic.

00:09:06.420 We were told to censor Chris Kyle Foundation, Ted Cruz for president, and Stephen Crowder.

00:09:12.120 And we settled out of court.

00:09:13.360 So this has been happening on all fronts.

00:09:15.580 I think it's really important that people understand the law.

00:09:18.500 What usually happens is it may not be because he said he supported Proud Boys.

00:09:22.740 It probably could be, and they would love to get rid of him for that.

00:09:25.660 But what I tell conservatives is this is –

00:09:27.360 I think that's just an excuse.

00:09:27.640 That's just an excuse.

00:09:29.140 It's an excuse.

00:09:30.120 And usually what they do is if you file a counterclaim and you invite them to meet you in court, which we do all the time, by the way.

00:09:36.240 This is important for people to note.

00:09:38.060 Just inviting them to meet you in court often gets them to back off.

00:09:41.940 Because they don't want the PR.

00:09:43.620 There are two things.

00:09:44.680 There's the courts.

00:09:46.020 And then there's the court of public opinion.

00:09:47.800 And right now, major media outlets are using.

00:09:50.080 My guess is with Tommy Robinson, without knowing all of the facts, they probably found some kind of a legal loophole where either it was copyright or something that they could actually legally claim was a violation.

00:10:00.280 That's what they look for.

00:10:01.540 Don't give them an excuse.

00:10:03.780 That being said, they'll find an excuse anyway.

00:10:07.720 So what I do think is important is for conservatives to try and really create original content when they go out there.

00:10:14.100 Try to move away from the herd.

00:10:16.400 And they tend to be – and I don't mean move away from the herd in the sense that we want them picked off one by one.

00:10:21.500 But move away from just the – I mean just the, you know, Donald Trump, you know, I hate Obama kind of ranting into a camera thing.

00:10:30.500 That's not real content.

00:10:31.680 And basically it makes it really easy for Facebook, YouTube, Twitter to pick you off with something.

00:10:36.660 If you are creating a ton of original content, we have these documents that we're going to say, hold on a second.

00:10:41.840 There was 240 minutes of the stream and three minutes were the actual Oscars.

00:10:46.360 There's not a court in the world that would look at that and say, well, clearly you just ripped off the Oscars and just ran it on your channel.

00:10:52.260 Right.

00:10:52.580 That kind of percentage is fair use.

00:10:55.840 Steven, I want to give you a plug on the mug club.

00:10:59.780 You said after a rather visceral rant when they pulled you off in the middle of the broadcast, you were a little hot.

00:11:16.060 And you said this is why the mug club is so important.

00:11:21.120 Right.

00:11:21.620 And mug club, of course, is in partnership with Blaze.

00:11:23.980 It's been going on for a long time.

00:11:25.480 And then it was CRTV.

00:11:26.280 Now there's Blaze TV.

00:11:27.560 This is something we started.

00:11:28.440 It was – I can remember – have you ever seen the film Flash of Genius with Greg – and by the way, I don't know what just happened.

00:11:33.460 I just said flash in my lip.

00:11:35.440 It went like a massive flash of genius.

00:11:38.020 I don't know if you guys could.

00:11:38.860 No.

00:11:39.040 It was very bizarre.

00:11:41.180 Did you ever see that – no, you haven't seen that film with Greg Kinnear.

00:11:43.480 It was actually a court case where this is the man who invented the intermittent windshield wiper on cars.

00:11:49.940 Yes.

00:11:50.140 And someone else – I think he was suing Ford.

00:11:52.560 It could have been GM.

00:11:53.500 Please don't shut me down here, ABC, if I'm mistaken.

00:11:56.320 I could be wrong.

00:11:57.360 I don't remember which of the big three.

00:11:59.420 But they asked him, when did you invent the intermittent wiper?

00:12:02.240 And the other person didn't really have an answer.

00:12:04.000 They said, well, you know, I kind of – I just thought it would be a good idea.

00:12:06.580 And Greg Kinnear, the man who actually invented it, said, well, I remembered thinking with an eyelid that it closes when you need it intermittently, whereas a wiper would smear everything.

00:12:16.960 It was just basically it went at one speed.

00:12:18.460 And he said, I thought, why can't a wiper work like an eyelid?

00:12:22.720 And that's what's called the flash of genius moment.

00:12:25.140 And they use that in court.

00:12:26.400 Basically, any invention, you can trace back to a moment.

00:12:29.900 And if they don't have a good enough story, they're often not believed.

00:12:32.880 With Mug Club, I can tell you exactly where I was sitting. 0.73

00:12:34.400 I was sitting at one of my favorite breweries in Michigan, and we were being attacked at that point from all these false copyrights on YouTube because we were pretty early, pretty ahead of the curve there.

00:12:44.040 And I said, you know what?

00:12:44.580 We need to create something where we can still be on YouTube.

00:12:47.780 We can still be on Facebook.

00:12:49.040 We can still be on Twitter, but we're not reliant on them.

00:12:51.560 And I was drinking for something called Mug Club.

00:12:53.840 It was this – because it was like an old Belgian kind of brewery, and they had these chalices.

00:12:57.900 I said, I know.

00:12:58.360 How about we do a mug club?

00:12:59.680 How about we have a – this is a physical token for people to see that they're a part of something bigger, that they're supporting content out there.

00:13:06.580 And, of course, now they have access to everything, to you, to Mark Levin, to the whole lineup at The Blaze.

00:13:12.740 And it's been a real blessing.

00:13:14.740 We never wanted to be just shut down behind a paywall.

00:13:17.700 We wanted to use premium content to make sure that we could be a thorn in the side of the people at social media because we don't want to get ourselves into an echo chamber and remove ourselves off of the mainstream platforms.

00:13:29.980 But we also understand that they do want a Tommy Robinson.

00:13:33.200 So I think we're stronger together when we do this, and we use both.

00:13:37.480 We use both methods.

00:13:38.200 We have to use both, but we have to prepare for the time exactly like you said when they tried a Tommy Robinson, all of us one by one.

00:13:46.820 Stephen, best of luck.

00:13:47.840 Thank you so much.

00:13:48.600 If you would like to join Stephen's mug club, all you have to do is go to blazetv.com.

00:13:53.600 When you subscribe, normally I ask you to put Beck in there, and you get the 10% discount.

00:13:59.580 But if you're a fan of Stephen Crowder's, make sure you put mug club in that, and you'll save.

00:14:07.080 I don't know if you save or just get the mug.

00:14:08.980 Do you get both?

00:14:09.580 Is Stephen still there?

00:14:11.060 Yeah, I'm here.

00:14:12.720 Or there's also, they can go through ladderwithcrowder.com slash mug club.

00:14:16.100 It takes people to the same place.

00:14:17.540 It's a $30 discount if you're students, veteran, or active military.

00:14:22.360 So you enter in the code student, veteran, military, and I know a lot of people out there, they say, well, what if I'm homeschooled?

00:14:27.060 Listen, we're pretty lenient.

00:14:29.040 If you have a yellow belt in karate, you're a student.

00:14:31.540 We want as many people to join up as possible.

00:14:34.180 Congratulations.

00:14:34.720 Your mom's check cleared.

00:14:35.900 You're an orange belt. 0.89

00:14:36.880 Here's your discount.

00:14:37.880 Thanks a lot, Stephen.

00:14:38.760 I appreciate it.

00:14:39.460 Stephen Crowder.

00:14:42.580 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:44.340 Yesterday, we were at a turning point, and I'm going to get into the turning point for the country here in just a second with Pat Gray.

00:14:59.440 But I want to tell you, if you know of a Democrat, warn them, this is a massive turning point, and you are going to see the Democratic leadership run towards evil fast because there is nothing restraining it now.

00:15:19.600 Is there anything in our society that is lower than killing a baby?

00:15:27.380 Every woman I know, when they watch a horror movie or something like that, if they go towards the children, especially a baby, and they're going to use a baby in a blood or a killing scene, that is immediately the line for almost all Americans, but definitely women. 1.00

00:15:47.200 Women are like, do not touch that baby. 1.00

00:15:50.120 I remember there was a scene in the last, what was it, Halloween that came out?

00:15:55.320 What was the one with Jamie Lee Curtis?

00:15:57.660 You saw the last Halloween?

00:15:58.920 I did.

00:15:59.300 I haven't seen any of them.

00:16:01.100 Jamie Lee Curtis was in this one, and for some reason, Tanya said, let's go to Halloween, and I'm like, okay.

00:16:06.960 So I know, it was her idea.

00:16:08.440 It was bizarre.

00:16:08.860 It was bizarre.

00:16:09.960 I think she had been kidnapped and replaced.

00:16:12.380 So we went to it, and there's one scene, where is it, Jason?

00:16:17.800 No, it's Michael Myers.

00:16:18.980 Michael Myers.

00:16:19.520 So Michael Myers is headed towards, he's killing everybody in this house, and he heads towards a nursery, and you hear a baby cry.

00:16:28.140 And my wife said, we are leaving if he touches that baby. 0.97

00:16:33.220 And I'm like, okay.

00:16:34.540 It's so weird because these aren't real murders.

00:16:36.940 She's aware of this?

00:16:37.520 No, she's aware of it.

00:16:38.420 Okay, good.

00:16:38.780 I'm just saying that that was, every woman I know is like that. 0.97

00:16:43.380 Oh, yeah.

00:16:43.700 You know, you don't mess with babies, okay?

00:16:46.640 The Democrats yesterday refused to make it illegal to kill a baby.

00:16:54.520 And I'm not talking about a baby in the womb.

00:16:56.520 I'm talking about a baby that has been born.

00:16:59.040 Let me give you a refresher.

00:17:01.780 In 2008, 2012, it wasn't cool to be a socialist. 0.72

00:17:06.540 You were a racist if you said that.

00:17:08.640 We don't want universal health care.

00:17:10.680 We don't want socialism.

00:17:12.220 We're all capitalists.

00:17:13.960 And then the Democrats did something that I thought was stunning.

00:17:18.360 Absolutely stunning.

00:17:20.200 Could you please give me the audio, Cock Crows?

00:17:22.660 This is from 2012.

00:17:25.240 Governor, would you like to make your motion?

00:17:27.140 Mr. Chairman, I have submitted my amendment in writing,

00:17:31.320 and I believe it is being projected on the screen for the delegates to see.

00:17:36.260 I move adoption of the amendment as submitted and shown to the delegates.

00:17:41.240 A motion has been made.

00:17:42.780 Is there a second?

00:17:44.660 Is there any further discussion?

00:17:47.320 Hearing none, the matter requires a two-thirds vote in the affirmative.

00:17:51.640 All those delegates in favor say aye.

00:17:54.400 Aye.

00:17:54.480 All those delegates opposed, say no.

00:17:59.160 No.

00:18:00.700 In the opinion of the...

00:18:02.620 Let me do that again.

00:18:05.040 All of those delegates...

00:18:07.480 In favor, say aye.

00:18:11.420 Aye.

00:18:12.940 All those delegates opposed, say no.

00:18:15.600 No.

00:18:16.260 There it is.

00:18:45.980 That is the moment that the Democrats denied God in their platform three times.

00:18:53.100 I think it's highly appropriate that they denied him three times.

00:18:57.660 Now, look at the race to insanity since that happened.

00:19:03.440 Now you've just crossed the Rubicon of saying,

00:19:07.040 babies?

00:19:07.720 What baby? 1.00

00:19:08.820 Kill it. 1.00

00:19:09.300 That's what they said yesterday. 0.96

00:19:12.680 Every single Democratic presidential candidate voted against this bill yesterday.

00:19:20.480 Warning Democrats, you are going to see the mask is off and evil is embraced.

00:19:27.140 You are going to see horrific things in the future from this party.

00:19:32.360 Yeah.

00:19:32.980 The clippity-clop that you hear off in the distance is the four horsemen of the apocalypse galloping

00:19:39.500 through town.

00:19:41.320 For that bill to go down, 53-44, to stop filibustering, to just bring it to an actual vote.

00:19:48.780 They couldn't get to 60 votes to bring that to an actual vote?

00:19:52.180 Three Republicans didn't vote because they couldn't get back in time.

00:19:58.240 Tim Scott being one of them certainly would have been a yes for sure.

00:20:01.220 Lisa Murkowski wasn't there.

00:20:02.340 Now, Murkowski, I don't know that she would have been a yes.

00:20:04.380 We don't know with her.

00:20:05.460 But if only there was a way to get, I don't know, to have a vote even when you're not there.

00:20:10.760 But as it is, you've got to carve them into stone tablets and put them on a camel caravan 0.98

00:20:15.800 and go back to D.C.

00:20:17.240 There's just no way.

00:20:18.200 No, you can't do that.

00:20:18.840 Is there anything more archaic than you can't vote if you're not there?

00:20:21.540 You can't tell somebody your vote.

00:20:22.920 You can't call it in.

00:20:23.860 You can't do it on the internet.

00:20:24.980 There's no way to do this.

00:20:26.220 No, there's no way to keep that line secure.

00:20:28.600 It's crazy.

00:20:29.900 It's like the president of the United States is doing major calls with Kim Jong-un.

00:20:34.300 The president of the United States can launch missiles from a briefcase.

00:20:38.960 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:20:39.520 This is ridiculous. 0.84

00:20:40.100 I mean, he doesn't have to be there to push the button. 0.93

00:20:43.180 He's got a briefcase on the beach.

00:20:45.300 I swear it's really a defense as to the thing you've talked about, Pat, and I know you as

00:20:51.820 well, Glenn, of getting these representatives out of Washington and back into their home

00:20:55.440 states.

00:20:55.720 I would love that.

00:20:56.860 Oh, my gosh.

00:20:57.460 But I feel like they make it required to go to Washington to keep their little game going.

00:21:01.460 Exactly.

00:21:01.920 Exactly right.

00:21:02.660 We should mention, three Democrats did vote for this, and that's really going against the

00:21:07.000 tide for them.

00:21:07.840 Yes.

00:21:08.060 It was Joe Manchin of West Virginia that you would expect.

00:21:12.080 And Joe Manchin said, Joe Manchin said when he was running, once that baby is out, I'm

00:21:17.500 there for him.

00:21:18.140 Yes.

00:21:18.580 And he was.

00:21:19.360 Yes.

00:21:19.780 What a wonderful line.

00:21:21.480 Well, I'll take it.

00:21:23.060 Yeah, it's better than kill it.

00:21:25.220 Bob Casey of Pennsylvania and Doug Jones from Alabama are the three who voted for it.

00:21:29.320 Now, Jones, of course, is running in a state in which he, if he's not pro.

00:21:34.160 It's Alabama.

00:21:35.060 Yeah, it's Alabama.

00:21:36.000 He's doing this, you know, arguably for political reasons.

00:21:39.740 Casey is not.

00:21:40.440 I mean, Casey even calls himself pro-life.

00:21:43.140 He's not the pro-life brand that I would like.

00:21:45.340 But he's a famous, his family's famous for fighting this as well.

00:21:49.920 However, you know, and Manchin.

00:21:52.240 But that's it.

00:21:52.820 I mean, and none of them can just, none of them say, of course, that they want babies

00:21:56.760 to just, you know, die as they're, after they're born after, you know, a failed abortion.

00:22:01.720 They all say, well, what this does is it weakens women's health care. 1.00

00:22:04.760 They just lie about it.

00:22:05.680 It doesn't.

00:22:06.620 It doesn't.

00:22:07.140 They've made it clear that it only becomes human life when it grows up and registers as

00:22:11.920 a Democrat.

00:22:12.660 That's when it's left to a Democrat. 1.00

00:22:14.700 And before that, you can kill it. 1.00

00:22:16.720 I don't care. 1.00

00:22:17.540 They just don't care.

00:22:19.000 It's, as we said yesterday, that's a really bad sign for American civilization.

00:22:24.480 It's a really bad sign.

00:22:25.640 I think it's a knockout punch.

00:22:27.060 If it hadn't have garnered 50 votes, I would say America was dead.

00:22:31.780 I don't know where God's line is.

00:22:33.780 I don't either.

00:22:34.180 But because 53, I hope that saves us with, with the quote Jefferson, because I know God

00:22:39.940 is just, I tremble for my country.

00:22:42.120 This is, this is terrifying.

00:22:44.760 And I will tell you this, if you're a Democrat, please, please notice who they are, where they

00:22:54.180 are right now, and where they'll be in 18 months or two years from now, because this

00:23:00.340 is moving wildly fast.

00:23:03.500 Did you see the new poll on Americans who now consider themselves pro-life?

00:23:09.140 This is a 17-point change from last month.

00:23:13.660 It's now 47-47, according to a new Gallup.

00:23:16.400 I think it's Gallup poll.

00:23:18.560 Just a month ago, it was 54-38.

00:23:22.320 Now it's 47 all.

00:23:23.360 Really?

00:23:23.640 47% are pro-life, 47% are pro-abortion.

00:23:29.120 And I kind of wonder if the bill in New York, Virginia, and Vermont had something to do

00:23:36.360 with that.

00:23:36.600 Oh, I think it did.

00:23:37.300 Has it just gone too far now, where that's the tipping point for Americans, and they're

00:23:41.400 like, wait, wait.

00:23:42.840 I can't associate with that anymore.

00:23:45.360 This is what I don't understand.

00:23:46.080 That's what I'm hoping.

00:23:46.800 The Politico article about this bill says, Senate defeats anti-abortion bill.

00:23:52.160 What does this have to do with abortion?

00:23:54.700 Nothing.

00:23:55.180 Again, yes, we're talking about a failed abortion.

00:23:57.360 So the abortion's over.

00:23:58.740 The baby's been born.

00:23:59.820 Of what use is it to the mother, once the baby is born and out, this has already occurred, 0.77

00:24:07.300 everything that could possibly go on with your involvement with this child is over.

00:24:11.840 You can give it up for adoption and never see the thing again.

00:24:14.380 Okay, I can understand the arguments about women's choice.

00:24:19.180 I think they are BS arguments.

00:24:20.720 We've discussed it a million times.

00:24:22.160 But the baby's already outside.

00:24:25.360 Why would you oppose this at that point?

00:24:28.760 All you have to do is get hands off, close your eyes, never have to think about it again.

00:24:32.500 Because here's why.

00:24:34.460 There's two reasons for this.

00:24:35.880 One, spiritual.

00:24:36.960 And you could dismiss this all you want. 0.98

00:24:39.180 You've got to sacrifice it at the altar of death.

00:24:41.360 You have to sacrifice this to the altar of progressivism, postmodernism, leftism, and death.

00:24:48.780 The culture of death.

00:24:49.880 It demands a sacrifice.

00:24:52.200 I think that's where we are.

00:24:53.620 I think it is, too.

00:24:54.440 We're not putting it in those terms.

00:24:56.920 But the left has become a frightening religion.

00:25:02.100 Yes.

00:25:03.020 An anti-human and pro-earth at the expense of all humans kind of thing.

00:25:11.660 It is a frightening religion. 0.97

00:25:14.400 So sacrifice is number one.

00:25:16.100 And the second is, and this I say as somebody who would put yourself in this situation.

00:25:20.640 You wanted to have an abortion. 1.00

00:25:23.400 You chose to have it at the last minute.

00:25:25.640 You carried it around for three days thinking it was dead.

00:25:28.540 Then it was born alive.

00:25:30.500 You can't give that thing up for adoption because you tried to kill it.

00:25:34.820 Now that baby goes up for adoption. 0.97

00:25:38.240 That is a testimony of your depravity.

00:25:40.600 And that you were wrong if it grows up and it accomplishes anything.

00:25:46.380 It is always there.

00:25:48.660 That child is always there for the rest of your life.

00:25:53.200 I will say, too, you could easily be creating your own Michael Myers.

00:25:57.380 Because, I mean, if you think about it, you know, if this is what...

00:26:00.720 He wouldn't die either.

00:26:01.180 He wouldn't die either.

00:26:01.900 And you have now taken on this child who will grow up to be the spawn to come after you in, like, 19 movies.

00:26:08.780 Can I tell you something?

00:26:10.220 That makes as much sense as what they're arguing right now.

00:26:14.040 Yeah, it does.

00:26:14.840 Yes, it does.

00:26:15.820 It does.

00:26:16.680 You could honestly stand up and be a leftist right now and say, you know, we've all seen the documentary of Michael Myers.

00:26:24.640 And he doesn't die.

00:26:26.180 This might be a new Michael Myers.

00:26:31.900 Pat Gray Unleashed Podcasts, wherever podcasts are available, you can find that one.

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00:27:38.500 We only have Ben Shapiro for just a few minutes, so I want to get right to it.

00:27:42.540 Ben, let's talk about the National Emergency Act at the border.

00:27:49.100 How should this go down and why?

00:27:51.740 I mean, the truth is that the president really should use 10 U.S.C. 284.

00:27:55.420 That's the provision of law that allows the Secretary of Defense to declare certain areas of the border drug corridors.

00:28:01.140 Then the president can simply build additional fencing there.

00:28:03.340 That doesn't require the invocation of a national emergency.

00:28:06.040 It's a power the president already has.

00:28:07.840 He does have funding available under the Defense Department to do some of that.

00:28:11.520 And all the areas that he's talking about, the ones that smuggle people, also happens to be the ones that smuggle drugs.

00:28:17.460 That doesn't mean he has to declare the entire border a drug corridor, but he can certainly declare the most high-trafficked areas of the border drug corridors.

00:28:24.380 The reason that I prefer that approach is because once you have presidents starting to declare national emergencies when they can't get something through Congress, that's an incredibly dangerous precedent.

00:28:32.500 Now, I hear folks on the right side of the aisle, and generally Republicans, conservatives, they'll say things like, well, if Democrats had this power, they would do it.

00:28:39.620 Look how Barack Obama expanded executive power under his watch.

00:28:42.480 That's true.

00:28:43.180 But there is a difference between – there are two problems with that argument.

00:28:46.080 One is, right, we're the conservatives.

00:28:48.320 That's what we're supposed to not do.

00:28:49.680 And two, there's a difference between making the argument Democrats have already expanded the power, and we fear Democrats will expand the power.

00:28:56.420 So now we're going to preemptively expand the power, handing them a tool without any excuse for us to fight back against it.

00:29:02.260 Because believe it or not, there will be a Democratic president again, whether it's in two years or whether it's in four or whether it's – at some point, while we're in six, it doesn't – at some point, there will be a Democratic president.

00:29:12.100 And the Democrats that we're watching right now are already saying that climate change is a national emergency.

00:29:18.320 They're saying it's the greatest emergency that has ever faced the country.

00:29:20.800 They're invoking things like World War II as comparison items.

00:29:24.520 Well, if you think that they won't declare a national emergency over climate change and then say, OK, well, President Trump built a wall on the border.

00:29:31.540 What we need to do is retrofit and wreck every existing structure in the United States, as AOC said in the Green New Deal.

00:29:37.060 You've got another thing coming.

00:29:37.960 These people want power, and any excuse to take it will be used.

00:29:40.640 I think the Democrats actually want Trump to use this because it will give them the green light to do – to really, truly become a dictator.

00:29:50.840 You can do anything.

00:29:52.640 It's – the difference between this as a national emergency is this one is tied directly to the purse strings.

00:29:58.820 So the president can do whatever he wants after trying to get it through Congress three times, not being able to get it through Congress.

00:30:07.120 And so then he shuts down the government, still can't get it.

00:30:11.520 Well, now he can control the purse strings without going through Congress.

00:30:15.200 That is absolutely unconstitutional.

00:30:17.900 And even if there is an emergency, we should not set this precedent.

00:30:23.440 We've got to be able to stop the Democrats from doing this.

00:30:26.820 You know, when they want to do all of the things that they've already tweeted, great, declare a national emergency because we think it's a national emergency on X, Y, and Z.

00:30:39.900 And they've already said it.

00:30:41.120 Yeah, and they're not really hiding the ball here.

00:30:44.020 And one of the things that I find to be such a problem here is that, you know, when President Trump talks about the national emergency at the border, there's no question that in a colloquial sense we have an emergency at the border.

00:30:53.220 But that emergency at the border has been there for 35 years.

00:30:55.400 Yes.

00:30:55.600 It's not as though things have radically ramped up in recent years.

00:30:58.740 The numbers are actually down in terms of border crossings.

00:31:00.780 That's not to undermine the idea that there's a serious problem at the border.

00:31:04.000 But the whole point here is that if President Trump is running on the platform of I'm going to secure the border and Democrats won't allow me to do so, well, then run on that.

00:31:12.000 I mean, if Democrats don't want to secure the border, then they should be made to defend that.

00:31:16.100 But to expand executive power simply by saying Congress won't give me what I want, so I'm going to do what I want anyway, and I'm going to grab money to do it, it's a danger – it's just the wrong thing to do.

00:31:26.380 And frankly, I don't see the upside except for some temporary politically expedient headlines that the wall is not going to get built under these auspices.

00:31:33.900 It's just not.

00:31:34.480 I mean there will be courts that strike it down and create injunctions.

00:31:37.800 It's already 2019. 0.67

00:31:39.040 The idea that the wall is going to be completed by 2020, by the time of the election, I think is a fool's errand.

00:31:44.460 At the best, you're going to get maybe, maybe 10 to 15, 20 miles.

00:31:47.920 You're not going to get a massive build before the election.

00:31:50.980 So what is the trade here?

00:31:52.640 The trade is the power of the executive to now centralize this kind of authority in one branch of government away from the legislature, and in return you get a little bit of border fencing?

00:32:00.880 That ain't going to cut it.

00:32:02.340 Everybody in the line of secession, including the president, dropped dead from a shellfish attack. 0.99

00:32:09.580 You're Jewish. 0.95

00:32:10.480 You haven't had any.

00:32:11.420 So you're like, okay, I'm next in line.

00:32:13.980 What does President Shapiro do today about this?

00:32:19.420 Well, I mean the first thing that I do about the border situation, as I say, is I invoke 10 U.S.C. 284.

00:32:25.300 I declare that there are drug corridors along the border that need to be protected.

00:32:28.280 I already have the statutory authority to do that, and I build fencing there.

00:32:31.560 And then the next thing I do is I go out on the campaign trail, and I say every day the Democrats don't have any interest in protecting the border.

00:32:38.600 They have been attempting to ratchet down security at the border.

00:32:42.200 I mean this is a campaign issue.

00:32:43.200 Bottom line is the American people need to make up their minds as to whether they think this is important enough to merit an actual change in policy at the border.

00:32:49.820 I just – it fails to – I fail to understand how the president can simultaneously claim that his program is immensely popular in terms of building a border wall and at the same time refuse to campaign on that against Democrats and instead declare a national emergency and just do it from the executive seat.

00:33:06.500 Ben, when Obama tried to pitch DACA a million times to Congress and got rejected and then decided afterwards that he did have the authority he said he didn't have over and over and over again, it was my opinion that they didn't even believe they had this authority because if they did, they wouldn't have gone to Congress over and over again.

00:33:24.580 The same thing here.

00:33:25.720 I mean it's not like Donald Trump goes to ask Nancy Pelosi's permission because he thinks it's fun.

00:33:30.340 They obviously felt they needed this authority to get this money and now are going the exact opposite way.

00:33:36.060 I mean it's a terrible precedent and I don't even think they believe it.

00:33:39.980 That is a great point.

00:33:40.920 I mean we just had a large-scale government shutdown, the longest partial government shutdown in U.S. history.

00:33:45.900 What was the point of all that if the president could have just – using his authority – declared a national emergency and been done with it?

00:33:50.360 Why not just do that?

00:33:51.100 Why is he not using 1084?

00:33:54.280 I think the reason that he's not using 10284 is because he believes that if he declares a national emergency, then he's going to be able to go back to his voters and say, listen, I did all I can do.

00:34:02.400 I think he understands that he's not going to get a border wall built before 2020.

00:34:06.300 He's going to be able to blame the courts if they stop it.

00:34:08.260 He's going to say, listen, as president of the United States, I used all the authority that I could possibly have even thought about to try and get this done for you.

00:34:15.180 Give me Congress.

00:34:16.840 So I think it's an election tactic.

00:34:19.320 So in other words, he wants the, I wasn't able to do it, but I will do it next time, as opposed to, look, I did all I can.

00:34:29.200 Help me get some people in here that will actually pass this, and we're already taking the steps that I legally can.

00:34:36.220 He thinks that's a bigger win the other way?

00:34:38.940 Yeah.

00:34:39.180 I mean, the president tends to be a man of extremes, and I think that he, when he looks at this, I think he wants to be able to say to people, listen, the maximum amount of authority that I was told I had by my own lawyers, that's what I tried to use here.

00:34:51.960 And courts held it up, and the courts are stacked, and we have to change the courts, and the Democrats have stacked against me, and we need to throw them out of office.

00:34:59.140 Again, I don't think this is a practical strategy that is directed at actually building border fencing.

00:35:03.680 I think this is a strategy that is directed at getting stopped in court and then being able to blame the Senate, blame the courts.

00:35:10.560 I don't like politics being played with the Constitution.

00:35:12.620 And so the only Republican I've seen who stood tall on this is actually Justin Amash in the House.

00:35:17.500 But I think that, frankly, the founders believed that the branches of government were going to check one another.

00:35:24.040 They did not believe the party loyalty was going to be able to overcome branch loyalty.

00:35:28.560 So a member of the legislature who's a Republican should still stand up for the legislature when a Republican president encroaches on the authority of the legislature.

00:35:35.480 They're wrong about that, obviously, because people now don't care.

00:35:38.060 I mean, people in the legislature are happy to toss more authority to the executive branch so long as it means escaping censure from their own constituents back home.

00:35:45.500 Ben, quickly, your thoughts yesterday on the vote that didn't pass with abortion.

00:35:54.040 Well, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the Democratic Party has completely freed itself from anything like a moral mooring.

00:36:01.340 It's it's it's it's insane.

00:36:03.040 I mean, it's frankly insane.

00:36:03.980 In 2002, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act passed unanimously in the Senate unanimously.

00:36:09.240 This did not even this didn't even get, you know, a a Democrat.

00:36:13.000 What did it get for Democratic votes?

00:36:14.400 Something like that.

00:36:15.020 Three.

00:36:15.240 I mean, this is three.

00:36:16.560 I mean, this is this bill does all it does is it basically extends the law a little bit to say that if a baby is born alive, it has to be transferred to a hospital and it has to be treated with the same care that any other infant born alive would be given.

00:36:30.840 So it just removes any distinction possible in law between a baby born during a botched abortion and a baby born not during a botched abortion.

00:36:37.080 And the reason for the law, as Ben Sass pointed out, is that this distinction has been has been actually created by New York law.

00:36:44.300 And New York actually had a law on the books.

00:36:46.300 It was section 4184 in their in their in their penal code.

00:36:50.060 And it essentially said that if you were born alive during a botched abortion, then you were given the same rights as a baby not born during a botched abortion.

00:36:57.860 Well, their new New York state abortion law completely overrules 4184.

00:37:02.040 And so this federal law says, well, no, no, no, we're going to restore the fact that a baby born under any circumstances deserves the same rights.

00:37:09.720 And Democrats like, no, can't do that.

00:37:11.200 Sorry, we need to have special capacity, do something different.

00:37:15.020 I haven't even seen even a coherent argument on the part of I was looking all night last night for any sort of coherent excuse for Democrats for why they would do this.

00:37:24.080 There's not Ben, I'll let you run.

00:37:26.980 But just what do you think of this one one one last thing?

00:37:30.440 You know, we merged with CRTV and we became Blaze TV.

00:37:35.440 What do you think about Blaze TV wire?

00:37:41.900 Well, you know, I sort of feel like the girl who's proposed to in front of the entire.

00:37:48.620 I love you, Ben.

00:37:52.120 Take care, brother.

00:37:53.220 God bless.

00:37:53.660 I mean, I take that as he agreed.

00:37:57.860 That's why I heard it.

00:37:59.480 That's the way America heard it.

00:38:00.760 All right.

00:38:04.040 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:38:26.020 I think the country is at a crossroads.

00:38:29.840 Today, we are voting on whether or not the president has the power to spend money and declare a national emergency.

00:38:37.940 In my opinion, he does not.

00:38:39.940 He does not.

00:38:40.700 We should not do this.

00:38:42.080 We're going to give this power to the Democrats and they will use it for all of the things we've been trying to tell you about.

00:38:50.120 You know, the free education and and the green movement and try to get these common sense things enacted and they won't.

00:38:58.700 It's a national emergency.

00:38:59.960 We got to pull the guns off.

00:39:01.380 I mean, they will use it.

00:39:03.640 We should not be doing that.

00:39:05.120 And here's another reason why I say extreme caution.

00:39:11.760 Yesterday, Ben Sasse wanted the born alive bill to be passed.

00:39:18.000 And we'll talk about that here in a second.

00:39:19.620 But the Democrats and all of the candidates that are running for the Democratic nomination voted against it.

00:39:27.380 This is a bill that basically says if a baby is born alive, you cannot kill it.

00:39:33.100 But this to me is a turning point.

00:39:36.960 I don't know where God stands on how many votes we need to have before we lose our status as one nation under God.

00:39:45.680 But we're getting pretty close.

00:39:47.780 But I will tell you this.

00:39:49.600 The Democrats certainly have detached from reality and God.

00:39:54.500 And I expect to see a race to the bottom of the barrel now with the Democrats.

00:40:02.900 They have chosen death and evil.

00:40:07.080 Alexandra DeSantis was covering this all over the place. 0.96

00:40:11.000 She's with the National Review.

00:40:12.320 And she really went through not only the entire story from day to day, but also suffered through every single speech yesterday.

00:40:19.500 She joins us now.

00:40:20.520 Hi, Alexandra.

00:40:22.000 Hey, great to be with you.

00:40:22.980 So what was it that they can you find any reason at all, Alexandra, that the the Democrats have a legitimate case to not vote for this?

00:40:35.220 They really don't have a legitimate case.

00:40:37.100 And I think you can discern that based on the fact that they're giving two conflicting reasons for not voting for the bill.

00:40:42.600 On one hand, they've said, well, this is redundant of existing law.

00:40:46.040 Infanticide is already illegal.

00:40:47.320 And then on the other hand, they've said this bill is anti-abortion and it criminalizes doctors and punishes women.

00:40:52.660 And so I'm here wondering, which is it?

00:40:54.480 Right.

00:40:55.420 Right.

00:40:56.700 Yeah, it can't be both at the same time, I don't think you.

00:41:00.420 I saw a bunch of stuff that they said was in this bill that like it was going to vilify doctors and make them more vulnerable.

00:41:06.660 Or are these just completely made up lies, assuming that their audience and voters would not read the bill?

00:41:13.540 Right.

00:41:14.140 They've gone with this line that the bill punishes doctors and it does enforce criminal penalties for a doctor who does not give medical care to an infant.

00:41:22.260 But I think the important thing to keep in mind about the legislation is it doesn't prescribe a particular kind of care.

00:41:28.280 It just says that if an infant is born alive in the context of abortion, it should be treated like any other living infant.

00:41:34.240 It does not say you must give it this particular treatment.

00:41:37.120 That's left up to the doctor.

00:41:38.360 So is there any doubt in your mind?

00:41:42.700 Well, how would you describe what happened yesterday with the Democrats?

00:41:48.380 Was this just politics or is this something different?

00:41:52.600 I think it's very clear that the power that groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood have over the Democratic Party, because if you look at public opinion polling, nobody really is in favor of denying medical care to viable infants.

00:42:06.520 A lot of Democrats even describe themselves as pro-life now and support some limits on abortion.

00:42:11.440 And this bill itself has nothing to do with abortion, but they're so sort of enthralled to the abortion industry that they feel like admitting any weakness in their case would be a problem for them.

00:42:21.140 And they're going to get hit by the really extreme parts of their party.

00:42:24.380 But this isn't this is I'm sick of everybody calling it, including us, an abortion bill.

00:42:29.840 It's not an abortion bill.

00:42:31.940 This is a there's a baby right there.

00:42:36.020 It's not inside.

00:42:37.380 It's it's it's no longer part of her.

00:42:39.700 So it has nothing to do with women's health and it has nothing to do with abortion at all.

00:42:46.220 Am I right?

00:42:47.720 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:42:48.720 And if you listen, well, I guess you didn't, but I listened for you to every Democratic speech yesterday and they all kept claiming that this was an attack on women's health care.

00:42:56.600 But not a single one of the Democrats pointed to a line in the bill that showed how it harmed women or had anything to do with women's health care options.

00:43:03.720 This is about health care for a living infant that has been born.

00:43:07.400 Alexandra, back in 2002, there was a bill that was roughly similar to this that passed, I believe, unanimously.

00:43:13.420 We're talking to Ben Shapiro and he said it was unanimous on that vote.

00:43:16.440 So is this just the fact that this can't pass?

00:43:20.640 Is that an example of how far the Democratic Party has come?

00:43:23.820 Is do they I mean, is there any part of them that thinks that this is a little bit further and does something they're uncomfortable with?

00:43:30.400 Yeah.

00:43:30.600 So the bill in 2002, all that did was define an infant born alive in the context of abortion as a person, whereas this bill would be the only federal law that would actually affirmatively mandate care for infants.

00:43:42.700 And I think that's a step too far for Democrats simply because, you know, like we've said, this isn't an abortion bill.

00:43:47.900 But if we're going to start defining an infant that's been born alive in the context of abortion as somebody who's deserving of medical care, suddenly we can start asking questions like, well, one minute earlier when it's inside its mother, why is that not an infant?

00:44:01.260 And then, you know, they're having to defend the entirety of abortion and they don't want to have to be doing that.

00:44:05.440 Yeah, but I mean, you're going the opposite direction. 0.99

00:44:08.300 If I can kill it at birth, why can't I kill it the next day? 1.00

00:44:12.200 Why can't I kill it the minute it becomes nonviable? 1.00

00:44:15.120 I mean, that that argument goes it cuts both ways. 0.99

00:44:18.860 And the American people are not on the side of killing infants, period.

00:44:26.800 I mean, I have to actually state.

00:44:28.560 I know it's an amazing point.

00:44:30.180 It's like pretty basic.

00:44:31.520 I feel like I can't believe the world we're living in it.

00:44:35.900 Does it shock you or can you explain how we've gone from a a country that was having a debate about, you know, even first trimester abortion?

00:44:48.800 And we were all very clear.

00:44:50.640 Partial birth abortion is wrong. 0.98

00:44:52.660 Third trimester abortion is wrong. 0.98

00:44:54.340 But some people, you know, we were saying, I don't know when it's a baby.

00:44:59.460 Is it the heartbeat or whatever?

00:45:02.100 We were having that argument to all of a sudden we're now having an argument about the most extreme, more extreme than partial birth abortion.

00:45:12.160 The baby's been born.

00:45:15.100 How did this happen so rapidly?

00:45:17.940 I mean, that's obviously a really complex question.

00:45:20.380 And I'm sure there are a lot of reasons and I hate to blame the media for everything.

00:45:23.600 But I do think that's a huge part of it, because I've been covering this sort of thing and abortion broadly now for a couple of years.

00:45:29.840 And it just astounds me how much misinformation is out there and is spread.

00:45:34.500 Oftentimes, it seems intentionally by media outlets and by people who call themselves reporters.

00:45:39.260 And the average person just doesn't know.

00:45:41.140 And so I think when you have Democratic senators standing on the floor claiming that this is an attack on women's health care, it's going to be portrayed like that by a lot of media outlets or just totally ignored and brushed under the rug.

00:45:52.220 And I think the average person doesn't know the difference, unfortunately.

00:45:56.020 This is a, you know, third trimester abortion, I believe, is 80 to 14 against when polled by the in the American public.

00:46:04.360 And it's such an unpopular position to keep extending, as Democrats tend to do.

00:46:10.620 And I'm sure Republicans are putting them in the position to defend this intentionally because of that polling.

00:46:14.760 But I mean, I can't think of anything on the other side where Republicans are supposedly won over by special interests and are supporting something that only 14 percent of the population agrees with.

00:46:27.200 I mean, is Planned Parenthood that powerful?

00:46:30.740 I mean, it just seems in it seems almost self-defeating to go after these bills, unless I guess maybe you have the backing of the media to cover each each step of your tracks.

00:46:41.180 Yeah, I think that they're just banking on the fact that no one's ever going to know the difference.

00:46:44.740 And I think with Planned Parenthood, not only is it about, you know, the huge amount of money in the abortion lobby that gets poured into the Democratic Party,

00:46:51.100 but it's also about the fact that these groups then go out and lobby heavily against you.

00:46:55.460 And if you vote against or vote in favor, rather, of something like the Born Alive bill, you're going to be cast as an anti-choice extremist.

00:47:02.420 And I think Democrats feel like they can't afford to take that risk.

00:47:06.300 What do you think is in the future?

00:47:09.600 What does the future hold for the Democratic Party if they can take this extreme of a view?

00:47:14.920 Plus, say, the the days of the free market and capitalists are numbered and we will be a socialist nation.

00:47:26.900 What what is in the wings that they haven't said that is in their heart that they will do?

00:47:32.380 Oh, man, I mean, who knows what they'll come up with?

00:47:35.920 They've been astounding me now for the last year.

00:47:37.960 Just every day has surprised me with their new extremism.

00:47:40.920 But I think on abortion, I'm trying to be a little bit hopeful, at least.

00:47:44.080 And I've been looking at polls for a really long time.

00:47:46.400 And the latest poll I saw just out yesterday now shows that 47 percent of Democrats call themselves pro-life, which is a double digit leap from just last month.

00:47:55.780 And I think, you know, the tide is shifting on this issue, especially among younger Democrats.

00:47:59.800 So that's worth hopefully, hopefully they can turn it around maybe in time.

00:48:04.100 I have a feeling we are going to ban abortion in my lifetime, and I think it could be in the next 10 years.

00:48:11.740 I think there is a massive shift and I think they've overplayed their hands.

00:48:15.580 I've been looking at the Labour Party with the anti-Semitism and the and the communism embrace over in England.

00:48:23.200 And in the last few weeks, we've had seven Labour Party members leave the Labour Party. 0.90

00:48:30.640 That would be like, you know, seven in the Progressive Caucus leaving and saying these guys are crazy. 0.90

00:48:36.060 When do you think the not talking about Washington, but the average Democrat who is not a crazy, not a socialist, not a baby killer?

00:48:46.980 When do you think or do you think they will hit a hit a point where they say, I can't be with these people anymore?

00:48:53.460 I mean, they've I used to be a Democrat.

00:48:55.400 But if this is what a Democrat is, I'm not with these people.

00:48:58.380 You know, I would think that we would have reached that point with the Born Alive bill, which is why it's hard to really know for sure where we're going to go from here.

00:49:06.160 But I do think if public opinion polls keep shifting like this, they're going to start paying an electoral cost for being so extreme.

00:49:12.700 And I don't know. You know, I I'm glad you're hopeful.

00:49:14.940 I'm not sure how soon it'll be. But I do think over time, science really does back up the pro-life position.

00:49:19.460 Yeah. Alexandra, thank you so much.

00:49:21.940 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:49:41.840 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:49:43.260 We're just talking about the vote that is coming down today.

00:49:46.300 Another big crossroads for America to decide what is right.

00:49:50.240 My my heart is with the president wanting to build a wall.

00:49:58.520 But my my head is dead set against an emergency act only because you're a he's not going to be able to finish.

00:50:09.680 He's going to be tied up in court.

00:50:10.800 And you only maybe maybe you get 10 miles out of it.

00:50:12.880 But then you have violated the Constitution and given the Democrats who they will.

00:50:19.420 Don't don't get me wrong. I believe they'll take it anyway.

00:50:22.360 I believe they'll try it anyway.

00:50:24.040 But we have no leg to stand on.

00:50:27.300 If we set a precedence, we we can hope and pray that the the courts will stop an emergency act on taking away your guns,

00:50:41.120 taking away your money for global warming.

00:50:46.280 What's the other one they they've said they want to do?

00:50:48.780 There was three of them.

00:50:49.640 It's global health care and health care.

00:50:51.480 Yeah. I mean, guns is going to be the hardest one because you have a constitutional amendment. 0.82

00:50:55.280 Right.

00:50:55.920 Would theoretically prevent at least extreme action.

00:50:58.680 But the climate.

00:50:59.240 That's I mean, they've got tons of stuff they can do on that one.

00:51:03.120 You know, all the drilling gains, for example, that Trump has, you know, he's been able to do and war and several other things that previous presidents had not been able to accomplish.

00:51:11.540 That all goes away the second the Democrat gets in office because they will just now do it with national emergency.

00:51:17.440 And, you know, again, you're getting so little out of this.

00:51:19.820 You know, people are like, well, you know, I want to get the wall up.

00:51:23.160 Well, let's just say, theoretically, if you got the full wall, the way it was supposed to be built, to promise to be built, you know, you can make an argument.

00:51:32.600 Maybe it's a tradeoff you'd be excited about.

00:51:35.840 They're not going to get anywhere close to that because it's going to be tied up in court.

00:51:39.480 And, you know, and the other thing, too, is we act as if these walls are permanent structures. 0.76

00:51:44.480 I mean, terrorists took down the twin freaking towers. 0.84

00:51:47.860 They will use environmental or border or whatever. 0.96

00:51:52.240 They'll say there's a humanitarian emergency on the border because we're blocking all these people with the wall they put up, and they'll knock that thing down in a week.

00:52:00.080 I mean, it's like it is just not worth it and also just not right.

00:52:03.840 I mean, it's not constitutionally correct, in my opinion.

00:52:06.420 It's also not what the law was intended to do.

00:52:09.200 I think people need to understand how close we are to losing our country.

00:52:15.260 We are truly perhaps one election or one disaster away.

00:52:21.740 We don't have the right person in office for a real national emergency.

00:52:27.420 World War III, your freedoms are going away.

00:52:30.140 If we just elect the wrong socialist next election, if the economy falls apart and Donald Trump isn't just absolutely perfect and the Democrats happen to catch a wave of some sort,

00:52:47.320 you have a socialist and perhaps a giant radical leading this country, that changes us forever.

00:52:57.040 It changes us forever.

00:52:59.480 We're that close to the precipice.

00:53:02.140 I want to play something that happened in England to a guy who was just peacefully speaking about the Bible in London, and a police officer approached.

00:53:16.660 Now, the guy was preaching in the public square, and he had a Bible, and he was quoting the Bible, and a preacher comes up to this new immigrant from Jamaica.

00:53:29.520 Listen.

00:53:30.320 I am preaching.

00:53:31.220 You are preaching.

00:53:31.820 I'm going to require you to go away.

00:53:34.300 You can never require you to go away.

00:53:38.040 What?

00:53:39.200 Preach of peace?

00:53:40.060 It's what you're doing at the moment.

00:53:41.160 You're causing problems.

00:53:42.120 You're disturbing people's days, and you're preaching their peace.

00:53:45.400 Okay?

00:53:45.680 So, for that to be dealt with, if you won't go away voluntarily, we will have to arrest you.

00:53:50.560 I will not go away, because I need to tell them the truth, because Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life.

00:54:04.500 I appreciate that.

00:54:05.260 I appreciate that, but nobody wants to listen to that.

00:54:07.820 They want you to go away.

00:54:08.680 Oh, but he wants to listen to that. 0.99

00:54:10.420 You will listen when you are dead. 0.96

00:54:11.860 You will listen when you are dead.

00:54:13.920 Now they grab the handcuffs, and they start to arrest him.

00:54:20.160 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't take my Bible away.

00:54:23.220 Don't take my Bible away.

00:54:24.920 And they take his Bible, and he just peacefully says, please, fine, just don't take my Bible away.

00:54:30.620 Please don't take my Bible away.

00:54:32.660 This is something, if you see this video, is like from some dystopian, futuristic movie that you hate.

00:54:43.060 That's England. 0.84

00:54:44.800 And soon we'll be here.

00:54:47.880 Will Maul, writer from Faithwire.

00:54:50.540 How you doing, Will?

00:54:52.060 Hi, Glenn.

00:54:52.900 How you doing?

00:54:53.480 Good.

00:54:54.040 I know you've been following this in England.

00:54:57.980 Tell us what's going on.

00:54:59.360 Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy story.

00:55:03.460 I mean, it just popped up on Twitter the other day, this video.

00:55:07.840 And looking into it, it was very clear that really this guy who was preaching had done absolutely nothing wrong.

00:55:13.980 He was just expressing himself, just basically preaching to people who had listened when they were walking past.

00:55:21.480 He'd done nothing wrong at all.

00:55:22.480 He wasn't threatening anybody.

00:55:24.000 And the police were called.

00:55:25.300 I actually spoke to the Metropolitan Police about it.

00:55:27.460 And they said to me that the police were called because he was supposedly being Islamophobic.

00:55:32.480 Now, that was quickly denied a few minutes later because clearly he wasn't being Islamophobic at all.

00:55:39.180 That was just hearsay.

00:55:40.380 And the police officers, they said, didn't hear him being Islamophobic.

00:55:43.480 So he was basically just preaching.

00:55:44.940 And clearly the officers, and there were a few people gathered around who weren't best pleased with him.

00:55:49.380 And the officers kind of took their side and decided, actually, we don't want you here anymore.

00:55:53.600 So you can see in the video that you just said, the officer effectively said that he was breaching the peace, which he wasn't.

00:56:01.900 I mean, he wasn't inciting violence.

00:56:03.200 He wasn't doing anything illegal under the law.

00:56:05.600 So he said, well, you're breaching, you know, people's peace who are walking past.

00:56:10.300 You're causing disturbance a day and nobody wants to hear it, basically.

00:56:13.340 So that was an interesting comment.

00:56:15.820 And so then he basically marched him off.

00:56:19.320 He arrested him and marched him off, which was completely unnecessary.

00:56:23.400 It actually only came out today that he, they affected, or the police told me that they then took him down to the station, realized they couldn't charge him with anything, realized they'd done nothing wrong.

00:56:32.240 And de-arrested him was the phrase I used, and let him go.

00:56:36.760 Yeah, I'd never heard that one, de-arrested him.

00:56:38.420 You know what's amazing to me, Will, is here in America, we just had these radical preachers preaching hatred, preaching race riots, and they were on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

00:56:54.000 And innocent kids are listening to it.

00:56:56.320 They're blamed for causing, breaching the peace, if you will, being racist.

00:57:00.580 And nobody said anything about the preachers who were just absolutely vile.

00:57:06.660 But you don't have freedom of speech in England.

00:57:11.620 No.

00:57:12.260 Well, what we do in some senses, we have a freedom of expression.

00:57:16.100 The European Convention on Human Rights, which is part of the UK Human Rights Act in 1998, that should give us a sense of freedom of expression, particularly.

00:57:24.580 And obviously, there are other laws that govern how you behave in the public square.

00:57:28.860 If you're inciting hatred or violence, then that's legislated upon, and that can be illegal.

00:57:34.760 But it was clear that he wasn't doing this at all.

00:57:37.020 He was basically just expressing himself, putting out an opinion in the public square, and there was absolutely no grounds to arrest him at all.

00:57:45.480 So, yeah, and I mean, there's another interesting aspect in that the police officer, you can actually hear him in the video after he snatches the Bible away from him, which is just a horrible thing.

00:57:54.820 And he says, oh, please don't take my Bible away.

00:57:56.960 He says, well, you should have thought about that before you were being racist.

00:58:00.820 And I asked the police about this.

00:58:03.160 They actually didn't get back to me on this particular point, because I said, you've just told me that actually there was no Islamophobia.

00:58:08.660 There was no racism that he was projecting on anybody.

00:58:11.480 The police officers didn't hear any racist remarks, so what's that about?

00:58:16.920 Why is the police officer suddenly accusing him of being racist?

00:58:20.140 So they didn't have an answer for me on that one.

00:58:22.760 And it's amazing.

00:58:23.500 These were two white officers talking to a black Jamaican about being racist.

00:58:28.840 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:58:31.320 So the outrage has been pretty big in the UK, particularly amongst quite a lot of clergy.

00:58:38.520 There's quite a few people, senior Christian leaders in the UK, who've wanted to see more from the Archbishop of Canterbury and a few other people to actually speak out on this guy's behalf.

00:58:49.380 I did actually hear today that he, the guy in question, the preacher, he was eventually de-arrested, as the Met Police said, and then dropped off somewhere.

00:58:58.780 And he actually had no money on him, so he basically didn't know what to do and where to go.

00:59:02.560 But then they said that someone helped him out, and he ended up actually going back to Southgate Station, North London, and continuing on preaching.

00:59:09.640 So that's good on him, I'd say.

00:59:12.600 Wow.

00:59:13.160 What is the, what's the health of the, of Great Britain now?

00:59:20.180 I mean, we, yesterday in America, we, we actually had half of the Senate refuse to vote on saving children's lives after they're born, and refuse to call that infanticide, and force doctors to take care of a living baby outside of the womb.

00:59:42.960 I'm shocked with, with what we're going through, and because I know God is just, I am gravely concerned about the health of my country.

00:59:54.020 What is the health, what direction is it moving over there, spiritually?

01:00:00.280 It's a good question.

01:00:01.700 I mean, I think that we are in, we are in dire straits in many ways, spiritually.

01:00:07.120 I think there's, there's lots of issues being raised by Christians and by Christian leaders, but then there's lots of issues that are just being passed by the wayside.

01:00:16.160 I mean, you talk about abortion, and the UK, well, in Northern Ireland, it's slightly different, but in the UK, as a whole, as a, in the mainland, it's, the abortion laws are, since the 60s, have been incredibly liberal.

01:00:29.620 And there's over 300,000 abortions every year in the UK, and that seems to have just taken a real backseat in terms of what issues are actually important to, to Christians or to the people who are in the, in the public square and in the public eye as, as Christian leaders.

01:00:46.320 And then, of course, you see these situations where you think our religious freedom and freedom of speech, just in a general sense, is just being whittled away.

01:00:56.840 And no one, bar a few smatterings of people on social media who are outraged by it, there's not a, there's not a vast outrage at all.

01:01:04.820 It just seems to be becoming more and more normal.

01:01:07.760 And that's partly why I think we picked up on it and sort of made a thing about reporting on it, because I think it's just so vital that we do that.

01:01:15.840 But there's just a sort of passiveness, I think, in the UK, which is just very dangerous.

01:01:20.560 And over time, that can become the normal, you know, those sorts of incidents can just become very normal when we don't even realize it anymore.

01:01:27.240 We don't see any, we don't see any Democrats here leaving the Democratic Party, no matter how extreme they go, anti-Semitic or, or, you know, death, you know, with the abortion embrace. 0.64

01:01:38.360 We don't see the Democrats leaving, but do I read this as a good sign that you've had seven Labour Party leaders leave the Labour Party because they've gone too far?

01:01:49.260 Yeah, absolutely. The anti-Semitism stuff has been sort of brewing on the surface for, for a quite a few months.

01:01:57.120 And a lot of Labour politicians get very, very just frustrated with Jeremy Corbyn and his inability to address that head on and actually take responsibility for it.

01:02:06.120 So they, they've defected. And then there's obviously some Conservative MPs have defected as well.

01:02:11.780 No one's quite sure about that independent party and what that's actually going to look like in the future.

01:02:15.740 But it is definitely, I think, an encouraging sign that we're, at least politicians on both sides are actually saying, this is, we're not happy with this.

01:02:23.620 And particularly the anti-Semitic stuff was, was horrendous. And the Labour Party didn't deal with it properly.

01:02:28.880 So it's good to see principled politicians actually come out of the woodwork and standing up for things.

01:02:34.660 But I'd say there's still a long way to go on that front.

01:02:38.180 Will, thank you so much for talking to us about this.

01:02:41.060 Will, stay in touch.

01:02:42.980 Will Maul, he's a writer for Faithwire.

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