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00:00:06.060 miss we had tammy bruce on today we had bill o'reilly in a rare form uh today also the attorney

00:00:14.620 general of texas he is going after air cot which is this this advisory board to the texas energy

00:00:21.860 um plants which there's something really really wrong in texas when we can't generate our own

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00:01:02.720 so here we are in a uh situation in texas we should not be in uh there is no reason why

00:01:14.440 we're in this situation uh the electric reliability council of texas uh is the one

00:01:24.560 that actually runs and oversees all of the uh uh all of the the power grid and all of the companies

00:01:32.260 that are making power and there's a problem there there's a real problem there now this is a

00:01:37.840 is it a public private partnership i mean i know it's it's overseen by the government of texas

00:01:45.840 uh but i think it's a private corporation this is one of those things that no one in texas knew

00:01:52.320 existed until this week yeah and now everyone is an expert on it yeah like everyone knows exactly

00:01:57.260 what urcott was doing and how they screwed this up yeah it's becoming the big uh talking point down

00:02:02.360 here yeah but you know they the name reliability is is what it's what the r is yeah and they're not

00:02:10.240 doing it no i don't know if you've seen the the um the meetings the the the meeting that they had

00:02:17.020 two weeks ago and the minutes of the meeting is absolutely unbelievable let me give you this um

00:02:25.560 top officials at aircott the texas council regulates the state electricity electricity grid spent

00:02:31.180 uh their time talking about the impending winter storm during the entities board meeting last week

00:02:37.960 a recording of the board meeting from ksat channel 12 shows that the conversation went like this

00:02:47.860 quote one thing i want to say before we really get into the presentation is it's actually going to be

00:02:53.820 winter here pretty soon as many of you those in texas know we have a cold front coming this way

00:02:59.300 we'll probably see our winter peak later this week or very early next week the uh operations have

00:03:05.740 issued an operating condition notice just to make sure everybody's up to speed with their winterization

00:03:10.160 and ready for several days of pretty frigid temperatures to come our way so more on that in

00:03:15.940 the next few days but it does look like we're going to have a little bit of winter weather here to

00:03:19.580 contend with over the course of the rest of the week and into the next week end quote

00:03:24.780 that was the entire discussion of winterization for the reliability council here in texas so they

00:03:36.320 covered it yeah they covered yeah they covered it and then they started talking about cowboy boots and

00:03:41.060 and everything else it's fascinating i mean i i you know i mean there was a little bit of an issue

00:03:46.580 uh with power going out and honestly that's just one of the issues oh yeah yeah the electricity is one

00:03:51.920 of the issues i will say i didn't lose electricity at all my electricity was 100 reliable we didn't

00:03:58.560 even have it blink the entire time mine went out all the time it's ours didn't which i don't know why

00:04:02.940 maybe i've heard that like if you're near a hospital if you happen to be in the same they keep those up no

00:04:09.020 matter what so that may have been uh the reason but like i will say i did get uh woke up i woke up on

00:04:16.020 monday morning to a very loud alarm going off in my home okay uh and i was like oh the kids must

00:04:22.800 have like opened up the door before we turned the alarm off in the morning or whatever right uh tried

00:04:26.880 to turn the alarm off didn't go off which has never happened before right so we started looking around

00:04:30.760 i'm like oh gosh is there a fire like what is happening um and uh my wife turns around the corner

00:04:35.400 and has this uh interesting thing happen where um gallons of water are gushing from the ceiling

00:04:42.880 oh you got a new waterfall yeah i was like did you put in a new uh water effect like what what

00:04:49.460 exactly right yeah and it was kind of pouring through the alarm onto the floor and what what

00:04:55.220 happens glenn when water comes from your ceiling onto the floor it starts to build up uh so there's

00:05:01.580 inches and inches and inches of water inside your home really while it's two degrees outside right

00:05:08.360 which is really fun so so we couldn't take a shower one day but you didn't have a problem with

00:05:13.100 that no i didn't have a problem yeah i could have just hopped in any time so we go we run around

00:05:20.360 trying to figure out what's going on i go up into the attic and i realize there's a burst pipe so

00:05:25.300 there's a pipe in our house which by the way was insulated and is still burst somehow and is is just

00:05:32.020 spewing water all over the place there's no local shutoff but i do remember because i'm a homeowner

00:05:38.080 right and i know one how to do one thing in the home during the water turn the water off in case

00:05:44.240 of emergency right it's the only thing i know by the street everything else if the house goes on fire

00:05:48.180 i just let it burn to the ground right i have no i have no ability to correct any other problem in

00:05:52.780 this home right except to turn the water off right luckily there's snow and ice all over the ground

00:05:57.720 and of course the panel to do this is under the snow and the ice right so that means digging through

00:06:03.740 the snow and the ice to open up the little compartment uh while water's just gushing into

00:06:08.880 my house and of course we were asleep so we have no idea how long it was gushing into the house before

00:06:13.840 the alarm went off it was a while right because there was a lot of water all over the place right

00:06:18.140 so i go out and i and i i open up i finally get the thing open i of course obviously the the uh the

00:06:25.860 valve is frozen sure so i can't turn it right uh but so i eventually you know after a few minutes

00:06:33.740 and a lot of swearing i'm able to actually get the thing turned so i run in as the hero of course

00:06:39.260 that i am and i run into the house and i go upstairs and i look at the pipe and the water

00:06:44.360 is still gushing out of the pipe wow now i thought that was interesting because i just turned it off

00:06:49.320 right but i thought to myself you know it's going to take a little bit because there's water in the

00:06:52.760 system gotta get it out of the pipe it's got to get out of there so this is going to end any second

00:06:55.960 so i sat sat sat there and i just kind of stared at the pipe for 30 seconds and then like a minute

00:07:01.640 and then like a minute and a half and two and then i started yelling at the pipe because i think

00:07:07.420 if you yell loud enough at the pipe right it's good did you use french did you speak in any french

00:07:13.580 i came up with all new words all new for this situation french words you did you have you asked

00:07:18.720 and said pardon my french oh yeah i was i was respectful at the beginning to the pipe

00:07:23.360 i will say that broke down right okay over time quickly and uh very quickly yeah all right and

00:07:29.580 it just kept gushing and gushing and gushing and gushing yeah yeah yeah and i just i kept at i

00:07:33.640 said turn i kept screaming at it to turn off which it would not do it was like no voice activated at all

00:07:39.240 no voice activated pipe it's unbelievable yeah wow that's so well you're living in the stone age so my

00:07:45.140 wife uh is calling uh this the city uh and calling various random companies she's googled right

00:07:53.600 this is what you do in the situation right and so i would say maybe 40 minutes later

00:07:58.600 the the city gets out there and turns the water off so the water stops at this point i don't know

00:08:05.640 six eight inches of water is throughout the house and there's like i'm trying to protect

00:08:10.480 certain rooms like hoping that i can like save the room and then i i lose that line

00:08:15.200 you know like we just keep falling back right you know like retreating it's like normandy oh my gosh

00:08:20.980 and i'm a little like normandy like an idiot glenn you know just plastic bins just pushing water out

00:08:27.000 the door like i have no defense there's like it's coming down like you know probably 50 gallons a

00:08:32.420 minute time did you go no i i will say we we called the company to come out they come out almost

00:08:38.940 immediately which is amazing i mean i i can't believe they came out this fast and they start

00:08:43.400 cleaning the thing up and we were talking to the guy and he's like yeah he's like you'd be surprised

00:08:46.360 how many people we get here and this is going on and the house is filling up with water and they're

00:08:50.200 just sitting on the couch they're just like they're just like screw it and letting it happen

00:08:54.720 i was like an idiot doing everything i could to get the water out of the house so eventually we get

00:08:59.740 the thing all dried out and you know i mean it's but the house is a catastrophe i mean like it's

00:09:04.360 going to be six months of of disaster yeah uh we're gonna i'm sure be moving out uh to because i mean

00:09:10.180 the entire floors of the entire house are going to have to be repaired all the you know all the

00:09:14.160 are redone completely it's going to be lose the house type of uh so you know here's the thing that

00:09:19.760 really pisses me off about this story uh because i saw i saw what happened uh on monday uh because

00:09:26.400 your your wife was uh you know on instagram immediately she wasn't with the buckets she

00:09:32.120 was right she was just taking pictures she was just taking pictures and posting yeah and saving her

00:09:36.200 legitimately we're in the middle of this the water's still pouring through the roof

00:09:40.000 and you know i've got i'm setting up plastic bins i'm bailing out water and i come around the

00:09:44.620 corner and i see her uh wheeling in her peloton like she's saving the stupid exercise bike that

00:09:51.640 is so funny and i'm like what what are you doing and then all the all the dust settles and i go into

00:09:56.660 the room and her peloton is safe that one was i don't know if it was safe i mean it got water on

00:10:00.420 it so it probably isn't safe because it's got all sorts of electronics in it but then next to it

00:10:04.660 are her weights like the the rubber and metal things that you lift for exercise weights she

00:10:14.120 pulled those out of the room to save the weights of all things in the world it's the most resilient

00:10:22.840 thing in the household it's metal and rubber yeah the picture's gone yeah everything else is screwed

00:10:28.000 but she's got the metal weight she got the metal weight so yeah so so i'm watching uh i'm watching

00:10:34.100 her i didn't see her pull the weights out but you know she needed one hand uh you know for the phone

00:10:39.300 and probably needed two hands for the weight so i didn't see that part uh but i i watched it and my

00:10:44.180 first reaction well i should say my first reaction was oh my gosh poor stew and lisa then my next

00:10:50.000 reaction was wait a minute i have been doing construction in my house and i've been renovating

00:10:59.260 my house for about a year spent all kinds of money all i had to do was wait for a storm to burst a pipe

00:11:08.300 and it all would have been taken care of by insurance i'm ripped off i feel really ripped

00:11:15.420 off right now i feel like the dumbest guy in the world because the my my next whatever three six months

00:11:21.680 sound a lot like the thing you did by choice yeah which is uh and paid for and paid for and paid for

00:11:29.280 where all i had to do was wait for a stupid burst pipe right so you pissed me off uh-huh you pissed

00:11:35.840 me off yes thank you well you know what you pissed me off a little bit too oh really uh yeah a little

00:11:40.400 bit yeah because um as i said i turned the water off but the water didn't go off huh i well how would

00:11:47.240 that happen right it doesn't seem possible did i just screw it up like very pop that was certainly

00:11:51.420 my in the moment in the moment was my explanation you should go with that moment yeah no because we

00:11:56.920 learned later that what happened was huh it was the sprinkler line which i guess is supposed to save

00:12:04.600 our house from a fire and did a great job because no fire could have been lit at that moment glenn

00:12:10.340 right when the whole house was under water right the fire wouldn't have burned it down i don't think

00:12:14.700 um but uh it was a separate line so when you turn off the water the one thing i knew how to do in the

00:12:20.040 house it doesn't turn off the sprinkler line of course not that would be crazy right so you didn't

00:12:25.440 know that no i didn't know that but you know who did know that i don't know who you i don't what

00:12:31.780 are you talking because you told me after the incident that someone came to your house from your

00:12:38.540 neighborhood yeah and said hey by the way right be careful with these sprinkler lines make sure you

00:12:44.380 drain the sprinklers before uh before the freeze because they can burst really easily right and

00:12:50.300 then glenn had that information and locked it inside a little lock box so that no one else would know

00:12:57.440 well so now he has a dry house and no one else does thank you glenn well you're welcome did it slip

00:13:06.200 your mind no it here's what i thought of i didn't even know i had a sprinkler in my house

00:13:12.620 in texas apparently you have sprinklers and you're you know like you have in offices

00:13:17.360 you have sprinklers that pop out of the ceilings and it's like some law or insurance thing or i don't

00:13:23.420 know what it is oh it's great it's great whatever it is it's fantastic it's wonderful i didn't even

00:13:27.700 for two years i lived in the house i didn't even know we had sprinklers then a friend calls me i think

00:13:33.020 on saturday or sunday and says sunday would be the day before this happened to me by the way i just

00:13:36.860 wanted to point out that could happen to me too and so he said do you have sprinklers and i said uh

00:13:42.860 yeah and he said are they off and i said i don't know i have no idea how do you turn them off what

00:13:49.640 what is that so he showed me he came over and he and a friend came over and they they uh helped me

00:13:54.880 drain the lines and i just thought i mean that's great i don't know anybody with sprinklers in their

00:14:02.400 house i mean have you ever known anyone with sprinklers in their house no i you know and i

00:14:07.180 don't they're not everywhere i mean but uh you think because what i find interesting about it is

00:14:11.760 like you look at that and be like that's a great feature what a great feature of a house really it's

00:14:16.120 adding to the safety of the house yeah it's going to protect the house no no it actually destroys the

00:14:21.440 house it destroyed the house yeah we we just built the vault over at mercury one and you know it has

00:14:27.800 to have fire suppression in it and it's all full of rare artifacts and documents they're like well

00:14:32.960 let's go put some sprinklers in we're like no no and it's the same thing i mean it just sure the

00:14:39.920 outside of the building maybe if it's steel fine but everything else is destroyed it's all destroyed

00:14:47.700 with the water yeah i mean and i glenn so the company that we called that came out in an hour

00:14:53.320 uh isn't we have friends who tons of friends who the same thing has happened to not just with

00:14:59.280 sprinkler lines but all sorts of pipes bursting uh and the uh same company we called out that came

00:15:05.880 out in an hour on monday is now currently on a four-week wait well sarah apparently had the same thing

00:15:13.300 and after your incident you didn't call sarah and say you know what happened to my house am i right

00:15:20.440 sarah absolutely did you get a call from him nope nope sarah follows my wife on instagram right she

00:15:25.920 knows that's the only way i communicate with people my wife's instagram post but yeah but yeah it's true

00:15:31.500 because like in this the friends that we talked to today i had the same thing happen we're not home

00:15:37.140 they were in hawaii they were like pulling a ted cruz they like went on vacation yeah to avoid all

00:15:42.100 that those bastards going back to ted cruz on that oh we gotta talk about that bastard was not around

00:15:47.600 while your pipes were right he could have come over with a plastic container came by never came

00:15:52.980 by ted cruz never showed up cleared zero water out of my house i had to do it on my house what else is

00:15:58.540 he doing as a senator i know what else your job if you can't count a senator in for bailing your house

00:16:05.920 out or coming in and making sure that your fireplace is lit or whatever what is what good is he yeah

00:16:13.700 and he was gone for a full night he should be he brought his kids down to cancun then he flew back

00:16:20.380 the next morning god only knows i hope to god stew you say something because i'll bet you he was gone

00:16:27.740 the night your water pipe burst i bet you're right and you know what as a u.s senator when power is out

00:16:33.420 heat is out he should be going door to door with sticks and mashing them together to start fires thank

00:16:38.680 you that's what he should be doing oh man well you know all of this happened because of uh well an

00:16:45.140 outdated system we weren't prepared for global warming or cooling or whatever we're supposed

00:16:49.220 to be even though scientists say that's had nothing to do with climate that is total bullcrap we'll tell

00:16:53.740 you about it and uh the the attorney general ken paxton from the state of texas is going to be on

00:16:59.860 talking a little bit about uh urcot the uh the shady little organization that didn't uh put weather

00:17:06.600 stripping down on the doors of the uh nuke factories

00:17:10.280 the best of the glenbeck program

00:17:16.340 ken paxton is our texas attorney general uh and this state is uh in real real trouble right now

00:17:35.720 we have got food shortages uh we have all kinds of water damage and we are just getting back online

00:17:44.360 with our power grid uh and the governor has issued a statement yesterday that uh he would like air cot

00:17:53.620 which is this weird oversight company uh that uh is supposed to oversee and make sure that our

00:18:02.540 our electricity grid is stable and reliable they completely dropped the ball there's an investigation

00:18:09.580 starting there and we have ken paxton on the phone to tell us about that and so much more hi ken how

00:18:14.920 are you hi good morning it's been a tough week boy you ain't kidding um can you first explain quickly

00:18:21.040 and we've got so much to go through um and i i don't mean to rush but i i want to make sure that we

00:18:26.000 get to as much we can with you um can you explain what the hell air cot even is okay so air cot was

00:18:34.080 was put together back in world war ii and it was a bunch of texas utilities that sort of coordinated

00:18:41.280 so that they could use their excess capacity to send the industries along the gulf coast to help

00:18:47.320 production for the war so that's how it got started and then after the war they realized there

00:18:51.880 were some benefits to working together so they developed this this network which is lots of

00:18:59.480 energy companies sort of working together to create power and then they they use their excess capacity and

00:19:04.800 where it's needed okay um obviously that wasn't working um and it it is also the only the only

00:19:13.680 power i don't even reliability system or whatever it is it's the only one in the country that has also

00:19:20.840 uh litigation protection from the government so you can't sue this company what is this yeah

00:19:28.980 well so this is a it's a it's an entity that the legislature oversees and also the the public

00:19:35.180 utility commission in texas which is appointed by the governor so i i believe if there is if there's

00:19:41.320 some type of liability protection if it's at least the state level the legislature could fix that this

00:19:45.980 they could say you know you're you're not you're not immune from liability and is this a public

00:19:53.660 private partnership between the state of texas and these energy companies so it's it's an independent

00:20:01.120 uh non-profit organization that is running on its own but it's overseen by a state agency called the

00:20:09.280 public utility commission which has three commissioners appointed by the governor so they

00:20:13.660 that that commission is supposed to oversee the operations of this independent 501c4 is what it is

00:20:21.580 okay so we are now we're building all kinds of windmills uh in the state uh i don't know why we're

00:20:27.780 we're doing that they're completely unreliable that's not it wasn't a weather problem with the uh

00:20:35.400 or wasn't a wind problem with the windmills it was that they didn't they didn't weather strip

00:20:40.300 anything uh you know air cot didn't do anything to get these things uh to protect them against a storm

00:20:47.840 like this i have some sympathy for the uh for the against the argument of um of we should we should

00:20:56.820 be weatherized we should have all of these things no this happens about once every 10 years in texas

00:21:02.960 so we shouldn't have the salt trucks and the snow plows it's a waste of money but weatherizing

00:21:09.780 our gas plants and our windmills seems pretty obvious you know it does seem pretty obvious because

00:21:17.100 i think there are other parts of texas that are not in her cot like along uh around beaumont east texas

00:21:22.520 and also in el paso and i think they had almost no problems because guess what they had winterized

00:21:28.640 their their plants is it true we know it can work and we know that you know other other parts of the

00:21:35.280 state that are not part of ercot did that is it true that uh the that ercot did their winterization

00:21:42.320 uh on a zoom meeting because of covid they they didn't actually do anything they just did it on zoom

00:21:50.280 you know what i don't know the answer to that that's part of i think what we're going to find out

00:21:55.080 we've started in my office we we get to have the opportunity to look at 501c3s and 501c4s

00:22:01.560 we've started our investigation to try to understand exactly what happened and why they weren't prepared

00:22:06.940 so these guys are making a boatload of money uh a boatload of money the uh board member president

00:22:15.340 ceo makes almost a million dollars a year on this uh five uh of the board members don't even live

00:22:21.940 in the state one of them lives in germany of all places um and and i just i i am for the free

00:22:31.440 market but this company whatever it is doesn't seem like the free market it's not responsible for

00:22:40.020 to anyone it seems i don't like being in having any corporation in bed with a government of any

00:22:46.600 government what are you going to do what what what are the what are the plans here i think the

00:22:52.940 first thing is to figure out exactly what happened which is why we've started what we started the

00:22:56.720 investigation you know a day or two ago to figure out exactly what what are they doing how are they

00:23:02.420 doing it i think this has been not so transparent to to to us and to the citizens of texas we're going

00:23:10.120 to at least create some transparency and find out how they operate and then make suggestions to the

00:23:14.960 legislature as to what needs to be changed and move forward from there but until we know exactly

00:23:20.880 how they did this and why we have these problems it's hard to say what the remedy is until we know

00:23:25.580 what the what the problem what the real problem is so ken we are i mean if texas goes down we lose

00:23:33.080 the entire country i know you know that in 2008 9 10 the recovery was mainly on the back of texas i think

00:23:40.900 we created 60 percent of all jobs in the country um we can't go down um if if we get into this green

00:23:49.720 energy garbage uh we're toast texas is texas partly because a you're still free here but you have cheap

00:23:59.460 energy or are is is the governor going to stand against this push for the green new deal because

00:24:06.720 that's all anyone is talking about is how yeah i sure how are how are we're not prepared for the

00:24:13.080 new world because we're not all green well certainly texas we're we're all about uh the most reliable

00:24:21.420 source of energy and we produce a lot of it in our own state so we've looked at all sources of energy

00:24:26.120 but the reality is we all know that right now these renewable sources of energy are not reliable and

00:24:32.200 they're not cost efficient until they are um i'm very confident that the legislature and the governor

00:24:38.620 will not put their their full efforts into relying on unreliable sources of energy what happened to our

00:24:45.920 nuclear power plant why why did why did the gas and the coal and nuclear what happened there you know

00:24:53.840 i think it's the same problem it doesn't sound like they winterized any of it that's what's so shocking

00:24:59.200 to me it doesn't seem like it would be that expensive given that other places do it around

00:25:04.880 the country including other places in texas so i think that's going to be one of the first questions

00:25:09.500 that we're going to when we do our investigation we're going to ask why did you not winterize when

00:25:14.020 el paso and east texas and other parts of the country do that as a matter of course it doesn't

00:25:19.180 make any it doesn't make a lot of sense unless you can tell us there's some some reason we don't we

00:25:24.240 don't understand at this point is there anything uh that the state can do i mean i'm so concerned

00:25:30.560 about you know the price of plywood has gone from uh 15 a sheet regular plywood to almost 40 a sheet

00:25:40.180 and that was before this happened uh this is going to cost a fortune and also the labor to do it i mean

00:25:49.400 there's all kinds of regulations on who can touch what i mean stew has had plumbers out to his house

00:25:55.280 but because he had a fire suppression system they can't do anything they can't touch it and it'll be

00:26:00.120 months before they get to that stuff is there any kind of regulation that can be

00:26:05.240 safely cut to help people out you know that's a great question i think that's something that

00:26:12.680 takes the legislature and that the governor with his emergency orders could actually implement

00:26:17.720 right now is to have a review of all all regulations affecting construction and maintenance of power

00:26:24.280 plants and and other uh electricity generation sources to make it less expensive and easier

00:26:31.480 to upgrade these things so we don't have to experience this again so yeah i think there are

00:26:36.040 definitely things that the state can look at doing to make it less expensive and more uh make sure it

00:26:42.600 gets done more quickly can i want to ask you uh uh really this is kind of a personal uh question

00:26:50.280 uh especially with the loss of rush limbaugh this week um you know biden said and i'm quoting that

00:26:56.120 his administration is going to focus on demented and dangerous white supremacists but through critical

00:27:03.160 race theory uh anyone who stands up for america and our traditional values is called a white supremacist

00:27:11.640 there there is something approaching that appears to be extraordinarily dangerous i moved to texas and

00:27:18.760 i moved my company down here a media company which is now the largest subscription uh right-leaning media

00:27:25.720 company in the world and it's based here in texas and i am terrified that and so is 90 of the talent

00:27:34.680 that our voices are going to be squashed will texas stand against this craziness and stand for

00:27:41.720 the first and second amendment absolutely and i have the same fear as you do both from the government

00:27:48.120 from the federal government but also from technology companies yes so we're in the middle of fighting the

00:27:53.880 biden administration already on on immigration i expect that there will be more issues coming up including some

00:27:59.560 some related to free speech and part of the issue with these technology companies is that they are

00:28:04.120 controlling platforms that are monopolistic and those monopolistic platforms are the gateway to

00:28:11.160 a speech in our country and so we've got serious issues with those companies well that's why we've got

00:28:15.720 lawsuits right now against google and potentially more lawsuits down the road but as you can imagine

00:28:20.840 when you take on those forces it's it's uh there's a lot of force that comes back and texas uh hopefully

00:28:27.960 isn't the only state standing up to fight these these massive entities that may be trying to limit our

00:28:33.880 speech are you are you working with other uh states to to stand i mean i i really think that it is our

00:28:42.760 attorney generals and our states our governors attorney generals and legislatures in the in the

00:28:48.760 states that are going to have to stand up and say this is a this is the these are our lines and the lines are

00:28:55.880 the the the bill of rights and i'm sorry we are going to be a sanctuary state for the bill of rights

00:29:03.240 we will not go over the cliff with the rest of the country yes and i think there are ag's that are

00:29:10.280 going to stand up and fight i'm i'm concerned that we don't have the numbers that we've had in the past

00:29:13.960 but i'm certainly working behind the scenes to to bolster that number and encourage other ag's to help

00:29:20.040 us because i don't want it to be just texas them we need help there's the forces against against

00:29:26.840 freedom are are great and i think that we need help and how can the how can the people help you

00:29:35.080 what should we do i think the they need to encourage their own attorney generals to get

00:29:39.960 involved in the fight to to be involved in looking at what the biden administration is doing

00:29:44.440 to be involved in these lawsuits against technology companies and a lot of them are

00:29:49.000 so right now that's that's where the fight is for free speech ken paxton the attorney general of the

00:29:56.120 great state of texas uh good luck on your air cot uh investigation and we look forward to having

00:30:02.280 you back thank you thanks have a great day bye-bye this is the best of the glenn beck program

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00:31:28.280 came from she made a change in her life and her thinking because she was the president of the la

00:31:36.840 chapter of the national organization of women and when clinton was going through what he was going

00:31:42.440 through with monica lewinski she thought that the organization should be consistent and of course it

00:31:49.720 wasn't uh that's that was her i think her first real uh awakening and she is uh now somebody who is

00:31:58.520 a independent conservative quite outspoken uh yesterday or day before she wrote a series of

00:32:05.560 tweets a tweet storm on her meeting with uh rush limbaugh back in the 90s when she was still a liberal i

00:32:14.120 believe tammy bruce joins us now hi tammy hi there it is uh great to be on with you glenn thanks for

00:32:20.920 having me you bet so uh tammy let's go through first the rush limbaugh story that you told on twitter

00:32:28.200 i think it's fantastic can you tell the story yeah you know i thought it was important um uh because it's

00:32:35.240 even though we knew he was ill uh we expected uh to some degree of course this eventually happening but

00:32:41.640 we it's still it's hard when it does happen even though you expect it and it it was important i

00:32:48.360 i thought for me to convey and a lot of people have great stories have known him for decades

00:32:53.560 but ultimately it comes down to having meeting him that led to my ability to excise myself from the left

00:33:04.200 and it's but it's also a very simple story it wasn't anything very complicated and i think it's very

00:33:09.160 important to this day why why and how that worked i was the weekend liberal host at kfi

00:33:16.600 a station you know well uh and i think many americans do and of course he that was his syndicated uh

00:33:22.920 station and um he uh visited on occasion to do his show there you know as you do as a syndicated host

00:33:29.880 checking out the uh the stations that carry you and i went in there thinking oh you know i'm going to go in

00:33:35.320 during the week and i'm gonna i'm gonna confront this monster with all you know he's not going to be

00:33:41.320 able to escape and uh so i march on in there and instead of seeing a horrible person and being what

00:33:50.360 i told he was i met a uh generous gregarious open-minded funny supportive man and uh it was it was not

00:34:02.600 obviously what i expected and i realized in that moment it's like wow um i had been lied to about

00:34:11.080 him and if if i was lied to about him what else have i been lied to about uh and he it wasn't just

00:34:19.880 like you know niceties when you meet someone i think he said when i first met him as being the

00:34:26.120 president of la now there uh he said oh and so you know you're on the station and it's surviving

00:34:32.120 and he laughed and i think i think there were i think there were a couple of feminazi jokes

00:34:37.320 and and but but in in a manner where it was not i mean it was it was a joke and but the interest in

00:34:46.760 me was clear and he he also gave me pointers about my work he talked about the the nature of talk radio

00:34:55.640 um uh i this that was my first media job was at kfi starting in 1993 uh and uh you know trends

00:35:03.800 even though we disagreed on many things uh at that point uh his interest was in how i would do my

00:35:11.080 success arguing about the issues uh and you know it was a generosity of spirit that does not exist on

00:35:18.680 the left and it was a revelation as was glenn uh you know just talking with conservatives every day

00:35:26.680 callers um uh on radio and that you know the the my associates at the time did not want me to go on

00:35:34.360 talk radio it was going to be the worst thing in the world glenn it was going to be horrible

00:35:38.040 and you know you can't go on kfi that's where dr laura is and they've got rush limbaugh he's a

00:35:43.880 monster and i thought wow you know but what a great way to at least talk about the oh yeah god forbid

00:35:49.720 right yeah and how this is but they were just adamant against it now i know why uh it's because

00:35:57.000 of the potential of these kinds of conversations it was the fact that people were talking at all

00:36:03.080 that i would actually for the first time be speaking with conservatives um who were regular

00:36:09.320 people it was the danger of the impact of debate and conversation and meeting people unlike yourself

00:36:18.120 because that if that happens of course then the left can't control what you correct um and and that

00:36:26.200 sort of it was a combination of things within a short period of time where i realized it took me

00:36:32.120 a great sometime more a few years more even uh because this had been you know my most of my life

00:36:38.600 point of view was the realization uh and again rush meeting him as such an icon and realizing the

00:36:47.000 significance of him and that and his personal nature versus what we i'd been told allowed me to

00:36:55.320 first start to question what i was being told then to be able to be safe saying well wait a minute

00:37:01.960 i don't agree with that or this is not correct and then ultimately leading to the point of resigning

00:37:09.320 of deciding to not identify as a liberal uh to decide that it was okay it would be safe uh and it was more

00:37:18.600 important to be honest than uh trying to placate members of a tribe and uh and you mentioned i appreciate

00:37:27.320 your introduction my very first book was i wanted to be able to not have my time on the left wasted

00:37:34.920 i wanted to do what rush limbaugh does i wanted to you know at least inform people and that was my

00:37:41.720 first book the new thought police which was what i saw which was this this development of of uh a an

00:37:49.960 effort to silence a major section of the american public using threats and intimidation so tammy the

00:37:59.000 you know i i can i can see threats coming and you know i called the caliphate i called the 9-11 thing

00:38:06.840 in 1999 and said blood body and buildings in the streets uh and it'll have osama bin laden's name on

00:38:13.160 it because i take people at their word when they say they're going to do something horrific you have to

00:38:21.400 take them seriously and it usually works out to you know a a legitimate warning system when do we start

00:38:31.960 taking the left dead seriously about uh you know reprogramming deprogramming uh you know uh basically

00:38:42.760 brainwashing us you know into their line of thinking or some sort of you know mccarthy

00:38:50.440 committee on truth you know it it's almost because americans we we are romantic we expect uh people to

00:39:01.240 do good things we have an opinion about our fellow americans which is an accurate opinion uh that we are

00:39:07.720 good people we want to be left alone we are still a very young country and it is uh against our nature to

00:39:16.200 expect or believe why any other american would want to smash the system that we live in that brings so

00:39:23.080 much wonderful incredible things to people not just here but around the world the the the saving of

00:39:29.880 humanity uh of civilization um uh certainly western civilization and we're seeing you know if if

00:39:37.400 eastern civilization can withstand what the chinese communist party is doing but what americans unfortunately

00:39:44.120 are going to have to realize is that the infection of marxism and socialism uh it knows no boundaries like

00:39:51.880 covet uh it doesn't stop at a border uh and that's what this is it's not about an american sensibility

00:39:59.080 uh the america the mind is a fragile thing and we've now we lost uh the education system the moment uh even

00:40:08.120 a little bit before but certainly when jimmy carter created the education department the federalizing of

00:40:13.880 our public education system uh our public education system that was the signal uh that that was where

00:40:19.080 they knew they needed to be to uh uh convince brainwash transform uh generations of americans and we've

00:40:28.120 looked away because we we who would do that right we couldn't believe it could be done but it's happening

00:40:34.120 and again it's not a natural projection uh projection by the way for any country uh but it is a human

00:40:41.400 framework that we've allowed to take hold and the good news is glenn is that it's weak is that it is

00:40:48.920 it is does not have a foundation it no matter what your culture what language you speak where you're from

00:40:54.760 it doesn't survive when confronted that's why ultimately they end up turning to violence in our

00:41:01.400 country the good news is uh we can protect ourselves we are not in a position where uh it is easy to do

00:41:08.920 that as it was certainly in the soviet union in china uh and around the world where socialism and all of

00:41:15.880 that has taken place so i think it's about seeing these things really happen that they that they're

00:41:23.160 serious people like us reminding people uh that you must believe them and that this can be solved

00:41:32.440 it's just a matter of confronting it

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