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Glenn Beck was in the House chamber for the State of the Union, and he has some thoughts on what he saw and heard from the people in the room. Mike Lee joins the show to talk about his thoughts on the speech.
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We go to the State of the Union today, and Glenn was there.
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He's in D.C. as we're doing the show. I'm in Dallas, and Glenn was in the room last night for the State of the Union.
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He's got a lot of interesting observations of it beyond just the idea of what was said, which Glenn liked quite a bit,
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He could tell which congresspeople were scrolling through their Facebook feeds the entire time.
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That's pretty much the level of detail he has on this, and we'll get into that as well today.
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We have Mike Lee on the show. He comes by the studio.
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We have Thomas Massey on. That's the congressperson from Kentucky.
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You'll remember him recently from the Covington story.
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He was the representative and did a lot of really good work to make sure the kids with the smirking and the red hat didn't get beat up by the media.
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He worked really hard for them, and he is the one who took Glenn to the speech last night.
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And there's a really bad set of news from the Blaze family that Glenn will get into here in the podcast as well.
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We have the media—we have the GoFundMe for Doc Thompson on our social media feeds.
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If you don't know the story, Glenn gets into it here in just a few minutes in the podcast.
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So there were some really incredible moments in the speech last night.
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And I don't know what the rest of the media is saying, nor do I care.
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I'm in Washington, D.C. at our Blaze Washington Bureau.
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And I had the opportunity to sit in the chamber last night.
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And if we have time, I'll tell you the things that I saw last night.
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All the way from, do you know what is facing the speaker?
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Do you know when the speaker or the president is standing there, what's on the wall above the doors?
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Would you be surprised if I told you a giant medallion, a plaster cast, if you will, of Moses?
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And behind the president was Madison and Jefferson.
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But when you're standing there and you're looking up, you're looking at Moses.
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So I've got some interesting things to tell you.
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And I have some fascinating things to tell you about how radical the left really is.
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Because it is worse than I thought it was just standing in the chamber.
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Also, the things that the president did say last night, you know, I know the press is probably going to say,
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it was a very divisive, you know, when Bill Clinton stood up and he lost the chamber,
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He was like, hey, boy, there are big governments apparently over.
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Well, and then George Bush came in, you know, and he said, I've got a strategy for this war.
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And I know nobody really wants to support it, but we're going to do a surge and just help.
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He thumbed his nose at anybody who was trying to derail.
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I don't know if you could hear it on television, but they hissed him several times.
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Sometimes, like when he said, you know, I think we'd be at war right now.
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But he said, in my opinion, I think we'd be at war right now with North Korea.
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You know, sometimes there were some chuckles and things like that.
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But I thought the president didn't take himself so seriously, at least in the room.
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But in the room, he was, I thought, conciliatory.
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I think he tried to come in and say, look, these are the things, we have to work on these
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And I think he gave the Democrats, I was sitting, because you're sitting next to strangers, and
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You don't know, you know, what anybody's political bent is.
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So you really don't talk about politics when you're up in the gallery, because you're sitting
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next to strangers, and you don't want to have a fistfight.
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And so we were just kind of sitting up there, and a few of us, and I didn't know anybody.
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I don't know which way they were going, et cetera, et cetera.
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I said, you know, if the public and the organizations outside would have given the president a different
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ushering in, do you think it would have been different?
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And everybody said, yes, would have been different, would have been, he would have worked together.
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And if you look at what he was talking about last night, there are things that they can
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work together on, but when you're in the room, you can see why the president gets so upset.
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Because I've never seen this, and I don't know if anybody was covering this, but I saw
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First of all, I've got to get the picture of the row that Ocasio-Cortez was sitting in.
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Um, she was sitting there with six or eight women and then the, the women behind her as
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She was sitting in the center and she was sitting at the table.
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She is running the, at least the freshmen, but I will tell you, I snuck into the party
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Uh, you know, uh, it was with Thomas Massey and he said, they'll just think I'm a freshman
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They won't know who I am or a freshman congressman.
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Uh, and I'm like, I don't think they're going to know who I am.
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Uh, and walked in and we were just trying to get to the balcony of the speaker's, uh, place.
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Because that thing is bigger than, uh, that, that Nancy Pelosi's office is bigger than many
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It was a party scene that was, uh, happening in there.
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And I think Nancy Pelosi is keeping her close because she knows how dangerous she is, but
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I will tell you, they've empowered her so much.
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She was running a lot of the responses last night.
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She was in the center and I saw her several times, look around, look behind her, um, and,
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and almost seemingly coach on where we're moving and how we're going to react.
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It was fascinating to watch the woman that if you are looking at her face on the woman
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Cause I couldn't see her face, but she had short hair.
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She was, you know, you know, maybe 50, 40, 50, um, I think, uh, and we got to know who
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she is because boy, oh boy, the vibes off of that woman, uh, were, were intense.
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When, uh, Ocasio-Cortez, when they said certain things like, uh, um, you know, we, uh, let's
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take the border, uh, we, we have a caravan, they hissed, uh, they booed, uh, or they grumbled,
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I mean, many times when the president was speaking, he would stop.
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And when he was, he would look at the other side and he said at one point, uh, no, don't
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Um, that was at the very beginning, but several times he looked right at Ocasio-Cortez and he
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Uh, and for instance, when he said, we will never go socialist.
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I don't know if he said those words or right after he said those words, he looked right
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Uh, it was, it was phenomenal what was going on, um, inside, but I will tell you, I have
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thought that the, the progressive caucus, they were radical.
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I would not want to be the president of the United States, uh, at this point because there
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is, I mean, to say there's no love between them, uh, is, is a massive, massive understatement
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when he was talking at the end and he was building, um, I thought a very Reagan-esque look
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He opened and closed with some of the best stuff, uh, I've, I've heard, um, it sent probably
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since Reagan, uh, the Democrats did not, um, did not like that.
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Um, many times I walked, I looked down and they were shaking their head like, oh, this
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I said to a, um, a, uh, congressman, a couple of congressmen last night, you need to wire
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You need to put a camera right where I was sitting, right in the center, up on the balcony,
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I was, I was actually in the last row, but they're very close, but put that camera right
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At one point when he was talking about, um, the caravan that was coming, uh, up through
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Mexico again, they all scoffed, they hissed, uh, Ocasio-Cortez just shook her head and whispered
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Uh, and they both, they both kind of laughed and shook their head in disgust.
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And then Ocasio-Cortez lifted up her phone and took a selfie.
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And he was like, oh my gosh, I can't tell you how many people were scrolling their Facebook
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pages and they were just not even paying attention.
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On the other hand, there were a few people, Joe Manchin is one of them that stood every
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Um, there was a woman and I don't know who she was, uh, who she is.
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She was in the house and she was wearing, if you were looking from the president's perspective,
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she would be on his far right and almost under the balcony and, uh, midway.
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And she was wearing hot pink or a fuchsia colored dress.
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And I say that because, Stu, I want you to see if you can look at the crowd, find out who
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that woman was because she was all alone, absolutely all alone standing, uh, at times.
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Was that Kristen Sinema, the new Senator from Arizona?
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I believe she was the one that did not wear the white, uh, when everyone else was wearing
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I think Kamala was wearing black, which was last year's color because last year was all
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And this one is women united in the workforce or whatever.
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Last night, uh, I was on my way back to the hotel.
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It was late at night and, um, I got a call, uh, from the head of my company and he said,
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He said, uh, Doc Thompson was killed, um, tonight.
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Apparently Doc Thompson, who did the morning blaze for a long time, uh, at the place, uh,
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TV and radio, uh, was out jogging last night and he had his, um, earbuds in and he was,
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was jogging next to the railroad tracks and apparently, um, we think that his headphones
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were up so loud that he could not hear the train that was coming and it, uh, sideswiped
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Doc, Doc was one of the more talented and gregarious guys that I know.
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Um, he was a guy who would come into my office all the time.
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He was the, the ultimate entrepreneur and he left us.
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Um, he left us to start his own business and, um, I was thrilled for Doc because that's who
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He was just an entrepreneur and an idea guy and he loved entrepreneurs and he loved new
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And, and, and because of Doc, many businesses are flourishing because he would really take
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them under his wing and he cared deeply about people who were trying to do business.
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Um, and he left to start, uh, his own broadcast unit.
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Uh, and he was the kind of guy who bet on tomorrow and bet, uh, on himself and he leaves behind
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Uh, it's GoFundMe.com slash doc hash or what do you call it?
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Well, we'll send it out from the social pages here.
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Go ahead and make sure everyone can get the right link.
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Um, but, uh, if you can, if you can help, here's a guy who believed in the American dream.
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Here's a guy that for the blaze family, uh, woke so many people up every morning, um, and
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always just had a positive attitude, um, and a can do spirit.
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Um, and we are devastated as a family, um, and devastated for his family.
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And we would ask that if you, um, ever listened to doc or, or appreciated anything that he did,
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And it seems like we're getting a wake up call.
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Jeff Fisher, uh, who worked on this program and still works for the blaze, worked on this
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Um, and a good friend had a heart attack over this holiday.
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He lived, but it, he had a heart attack that doctors call the widow maker.
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Uh, and there's something, uh, something happens when you start losing contemporaries and doc was
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Um, and I urge you to cherish every single moment.
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And, uh, I know this sounds cliche, but there is nothing more important than your family.
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Take care of your family and spend the time with your kids.
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One of the good guys in Congress is, uh, Thomas Massey, uh, who I was with.
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I was his guest last night and I appreciate the invitation.
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Um, Congressman, can you, uh, what was the most significant thing that you thought happened
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I think the most significant thing was when the president said the United States will never
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And, uh, it, it looked to me like 50% of the Democrats were glued to their seats and not
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In other words, they are outright endorsing socialism now about half of their conference.
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And, uh, you know, four years ago, if you had called Obama a socialist, they would tell
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And now, but now the mask is off and they're openly running as socialists and, and the ones
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who aren't openly running as socialists, uh, recognize it's a huge part of their primary
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voting base and don't want to upset the socialists.
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But I think it points to a big problem with the Democrat party that they have going forward.
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It's a, you know, the extreme form of what, uh, small government Republicans advocate for
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The extreme form of what the Democrats campaign on is communism and socialism.
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And so they are out, out socialisming each other.
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And it's, it, what was amazing was it wasn't to placate it.
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I suppose it is for some to placate, uh, their base, but there are hard core extremists on
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Another thing that was even more extreme in the reaction was when president Trump called
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And later, if you will, which is five seconds later, I guess when he called out, uh, how
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wrong it was to kill infants who were just born.
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And I didn't, I didn't see them stand up or clap for that.
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No, not the, not those hardcore women in the white, in the center.
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Some of them, I think almost the whole Democrat caucus, uh, refused to clap when he, I mean,
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This is where they've gone in, in two to four years.
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And then the other thing is, uh, and this disappointed me with my own party, uh, when the president
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said, uh, great countries don't fight endless wars.
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That to me was an, uh, uh, an obvious bipartisan applause line.
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And I was like, maybe one of two dozen who stood up out of 435 and clapped for that.
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This is, uh, because it's really Congress's authority and decision of where, uh, to deploy
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And, uh, we've abdicated that, uh, and this is a president who might have to be the person
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Like that would be his greatest legacy, not creating another social program, like paid
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He said so many things last night that they should have, for instance, the end of endless
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That's, that's what Obama said he was going to do.
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Here's a guy who actually looks like he's going to deliver it and they are not for it.
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Um, the arrogance, you and I went through Nancy Pelosi's office and, uh, and we kind
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You wouldn't let me, but, uh, we went through and it was a huge party.
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Um, and her office area, I don't even know how big it actually is, but it looks as big
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Well, it's, it's a large complex, but that was Paul Ryan's office, uh, you know, just
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The reason why I bring it up is the arrogance, the arrogance that, um, that people who are
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Here's something I didn't show you about the office.
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That's on the second floor to get to the majority leader's office.
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You have to go to the speaker's office, get in an elevator and go up a floor.
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So nobody can go to the number two person's office without walking through the number
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And so it's, it's a way that the speaker always keeps a check on the person who's immediately
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And there, there's so much power that has concentrated into the speaker's office.
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Like we, it's, I've, I've joked that we take one vote and then we're done for two years,
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which is we vote for the speaker on the first day of Congress.
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It didn't used to be that way, but the speaker has all the power.
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Uh, they control whether you get fundraising donations or not from the packs.
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The speaker controls whether your bills come up on the floor.
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Or the speaker even has so much power over the committee chairman that they can tell the
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committee chairman don't have a hearing on that person's bill.
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And they pick, they basically pick who's going to be on what committee.
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So last night you said something really profound, um, to me, you were wearing, uh, a pin.
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And if you happen to be watching, it's this pin.
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And, you know, the police move out of your way.
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You are, you are the king when you have this pin.
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And it's making me nervous that you're holding it.
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And you, you, you weren't wearing it, uh, for the, when I first met you last night.
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Uh, and then when we start walking over the Capitol, you put it on, uh, and you actually
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Because when you put this pin on, it goes to your head.
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And this is what happens to 434 members of the house.
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But you, when you put this on, the police get out of your way.
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Uh, the staffers won't speak in an elevator if they see somebody with a pin on.
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And it's, you start to feel those reactions, how people react to you.
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So just like if a hobbit, you know, if you're a Lord of the Rings fan, when a hobbit puts
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And the same thing happens when you put on this congressional pin.
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Now, last night there were extra guards who, uh, aren't normally at the Capitol and I
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didn't want to get face planted into the granite.
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I mean, I don't think I've ever been to anything with so many police and secret service.
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I got to tell you this as, uh, so there's a designated survivor.
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Well, as people filtered into the room, certain cabinet members, I'm not going to say who
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I was like, that's not the designated survivor.
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I'm not going to tell you which of the cabinet members I felt that way about.
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I've never, um, you know, cause we were in what an hour early.
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Um, and so the people who are right up next, the ones are always taking their photos with
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You go in, anyone can sit anywhere except, except for the leadership.
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Um, and, uh, so those people get in four hours ahead of time and they have to sit there.
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You can't put your name on a seat and walk away.
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So there are congressmen that show up and sit down for four hours just to be in that frame
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And so they come in, Nancy Pelosi comes in about 45 minutes, actually, I think 30 minutes
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before, um, and the room begins to change and they start to, uh, you know, introduce everybody
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and they, you know, here's the cabinet and here's the Supreme court.
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Um, and I think it's a cabinet that's introduced last, right before the president comes in.
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I know the vice president's been in there for half an hour.
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And, uh, when I went in, I noticed that the Republicans were, uh, typical Republicans,
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you know, we were all kind of just, uh, uh, just kind of stick in our butt kind of people.
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Where we were quiet and it was, it was, it was appropriate behavior.
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The Democrats, especially the new women, good progressive caucus.
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Um, they, their attitude was, they were giddy to be there.
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Now I might sneak a picture once in a while on the floor, but I mean, they were openly,
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you know, posing and it was kind of like a party atmosphere over there.
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Ocasio-Cortez took a selfie when the president was talking about the caravan on the border.
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But the other thing I noticed is everybody says they don't like the president.
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But in that three minute period, four minute period, um, before the president walks out,
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you could feel the room anticipate the arrival of the president.
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I mean, the power of the president, even this president who they claim to hate and have
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no respect for, it changed the temperature of the room when they knew he was the next
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Well, it's one of the cards the president gets to play is the state of the union and they
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have to sit there and they have to be filmed when they react to the president.
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Now the Democrats will get to play their card starting today that when I leave the studio
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here, I'm going to a hearing in the oversight committee that I serve on with Jim Jordan
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and Mark Meadows, and that's going to be gavel to gavel, go after this administration.
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Uh, and that's the card they get to play starting today.
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And all those hearings, you know, for the last six years that I've been in Congress and
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the oversight committee, you couldn't find an NBC camera or a CNN camera.
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Well, now the Fox cameras are gone and there will be, uh, MSNBC and CNN cameras in the
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oversight committee and they'll, they will use that.
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I sometimes call it the theater committee because you have to muster your righteous indignation
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and walk in there and ask people, how could you, when did you first know, what were you
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The president, um, the president addressed that, you know, investigation, investigation,
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uh, and that caucus with Ocasio-Cortez, just that those group of people, Ocasio-Cortez turned
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around and, and shook her head like, I, can you believe this guy?
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That's unfortunate because I think he did start out with a tone.
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He said country over party, the Democrats after about four seconds were shamed into standing
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up for that, uh, you know, for that statement, country over party, which I thought's something
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I want to, I want to say this to you and it goes to the budget.
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He, but he was talking about the intermediate nuclear missiles and he said, perhaps we can
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negotiate a different agreement adding China and others.
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Perhaps we can't, which in case we will outspend and innovate all others by far.
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I mean, that was the model of the Soviet union was to outspend the United States and they
00:33:48.860
So, uh, now the, the missile treaty that we have with Russia does cause us to spend more
00:33:57.960
Uh, I had this explained to me when I was in Korea last year by the generals over there.
00:34:02.680
Uh, we've got this thing that ties our hands with Russia.
00:34:11.000
But you are, um, you, you and I both were disturbed that there was no mention of $22 trillion.
00:34:21.640
What you did not hear anything about the debt or the deficit in this state of the union.
00:34:26.460
You're not going to hear about it in the hearings that the Democrats have.
00:34:29.920
This is, we're going to be in the dark for two years here.
00:34:32.720
Not that, you know, we were fiscal conservatives before.
00:34:37.140
But, uh, but this, this president didn't campaign on balancing the budget and this is the problem.
00:34:43.320
And he can get away with this because the people are not upset about the debt enough.
00:34:49.620
Congressman Thomas Massey, um, really, truly one of the good guys who, uh, uh, my precious
00:34:58.940
You were, you were the hottest date at the state of the union.
00:35:06.100
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:35:28.260
And I'm glad you got to experience the state of the union in person in the gallery last night.
00:35:37.080
It was very, very different than what it feels like on TV.
00:35:43.860
No, there's a whole lot going on where people sit, who they sit next to a lot of trying to
00:35:51.660
I mean, there's just a whole lot of things going on in addition to the president giving
00:36:00.520
So Jim DeMint, chairman of the conservative partnership Institute.
00:36:07.020
Did you think anything historic happened last night?
00:36:11.620
Well, as an American, as a conservative, and as someone who values common sense, and you
00:36:17.060
mentioned that right before I came on, I thought it was an inspiring speech.
00:36:23.420
And I think you mentioned, uh, self-deprecating that the Trump did take it down a notch and
00:36:29.760
that's hard for him to do, but it was very genuine in the sense of trying to get people
00:36:36.700
And if you watch closely on a lot of points, he had the Democrats, even the women dressed
00:36:43.240
in white were, were clapping with him that they could not stay in their seats for some
00:36:51.940
I was proud, proud of the American and, and, and I hope that a little of that will take root
00:37:02.520
I mean, being in the room, uh, the, especially the women in white, the, the first row with
00:37:08.860
Casio Cortez, I mean, it was as radical as it gets.
00:37:12.540
There are radicals, uh, in the, uh, in the democratic party now.
00:37:17.480
I mean, I saw some things that I'm going to talk about later that I, I just just, I was
00:37:22.960
I did think there was a historic moment last night and that came towards the end when,
00:37:28.320
uh, the president said, uh, let me see if I can find it here.
00:37:38.880
He said, here in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country.
00:37:46.220
America was founded on liberty and independence, not government coercion, domination and control.
00:37:52.380
We are born free and we will stay free tonight.
00:37:56.220
We renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.
00:38:01.440
Um, it was historic to me, not just because he said it, but because he felt he needed to
00:38:07.800
say it and a good number of Democrats did not clap or stand for that.
00:38:20.420
And I mean, he's willing to take issues head on, Glenn.
00:38:23.620
I mean, and you know, he brought up the life issue in a context that was better than anyone
00:38:30.100
And he's not afraid to bring God into the picture.
00:38:33.440
And so to me, I mean, Trump is somewhat of an enigma.
00:38:37.240
If you, if you look at, um, I guess all of his background and everything, but I just couldn't
00:38:43.320
be more inspired and proud that he is hitting the notes, the points that are so common sense
00:38:53.300
And I, and I saw some polls this morning that indicated about 75% or so approved of the speech.
00:38:59.960
And, um, and I hope if it doesn't take hold in Congress, I hope it will take hold with
00:39:06.860
the people, Glenn, because what he said is very needed.
00:39:10.660
The opportunity in front of us and the energy field and the move ahead with our economy is
00:39:16.640
None of this was make believe the statistics about how the last two years have gone economically
00:39:23.260
and the things that have been accomplished are real, but they're just the tip of the iceberg.
00:39:28.600
Imagine what we could do if Congress could work together.
00:39:32.320
I was, uh, again, um, shocked at how the Democrats reacted, uh, to those job numbers.
00:39:41.960
He said on Friday, it was announced that we added another 304,000 jobs last month alone,
00:39:49.600
An economic miracle is taking place in the United States.
00:39:52.420
And the only thing that can stop us are foolish wars, politics, or ridiculous partisan investigations.
00:39:58.600
First of all, when they talked about, when he talked about, um, the numbers of Hispanics
00:40:04.480
and African-American and women in the workforce, they did not react well to that.
00:40:12.440
How do you not, how do you not stand and applaud that?
00:40:17.780
Um, uh, but then he, when he ended it, go ahead.
00:40:21.560
No, I'm just saying the Democrats, the left are building their whole platform on, on victims.
00:40:28.100
And when the president breaks that paradigm and talks about policies that help minorities
00:40:36.280
And more than anything, the president is taking the working class Americans, even union members
00:40:43.420
And, and they're having to, I mean, they're going apoplectic, as you can see, they're moving
00:40:49.920
Uh, I just hope not much of the country will follow them.
00:40:53.380
I can't imagine doing that, but the facts don't matter to the left.
00:40:59.460
So the ability of the American people to know what the president said last night, I'm sure
00:41:04.580
a few million watched it, but most will know what he said by the way the media, um, interprets
00:41:10.840
it, so we've got a lot of work to do to just help America understand that, that the, that
00:41:17.460
the free enterprise, uh, common sense, traditional value policies make their life better.
00:41:26.380
And, and I'm just, um, pretty excited that we've got a president who's willing to, to
00:41:33.880
So Jim, tell, tell people what you're doing now.
00:41:36.740
Because you were, you were at the Heritage Foundation, you were a senator and one of the
00:41:42.280
best, uh, in the Tea Party era, you were one of the first adopters, um, and you know,
00:41:48.580
you were looking for help, uh, and you saw the Tea Party as the Calvary, I think.
00:41:53.560
Um, uh, but you, then you went to the Heritage Foundation and now you're a conservative partnership
00:42:01.520
Well, Glenn, what I've seen is, uh, groups, uh, movements like the Tea Party can help elect
00:42:07.400
mass waves of good people, but then the swamp, the establishment, even the Republican Party
00:42:14.780
I left Heritage to build an organization that supports conservatives on the inside of Congress
00:42:23.060
So what we do at the conservative partnership, we get congressmen and senators together, uh, develop
00:42:30.540
We do a lot of staff training so that when good people come, they don't end up with bad
00:42:35.720
staff that's steering them in the wrong direction.
00:42:42.620
We try to get good people around good people and just get them together.
00:42:45.800
I mean, the place isolates you, it carves you out of the herd.
00:42:49.660
And then before you know it, you're just part of the wallpaper up there.
00:42:53.460
And I've just seen so many people that I helped elect just go the wrong way.
00:42:58.200
And so my commitment for the rest of my time is just to build a support system that gets
00:43:04.540
the backs of the people who are trying to do the right thing.
00:43:07.380
Jim, I will tell you that, um, uh, I, I, I rode the tram for the first time in the tunnels
00:43:16.220
Um, and it's like, it's, it's like, uh, you know, 1962 Disneyland.
00:43:23.340
This little tram that takes, you know, senators and, and house members to the Capitol, which
00:43:32.060
Um, but it takes them, uh, you know, for about a three or four minute ride on this tram.
00:43:38.000
Um, and then I went upstairs and I was in Nancy Pelosi's office for a few minutes and I saw the,
00:43:44.200
the unbelievable shindig that was going on, um, in, in her office and the, the detachment.
00:43:53.880
And I almost, I mean, you know, me, Jim, I love the secret service.
00:43:58.160
I almost came to fisticuffs with a secret service agent last night.
00:44:01.880
I, I mean, I have, I have never been offended by a secret service agent before.
00:44:07.700
Um, and I had a stare down after like a fourth encounter with this guy, um, because he kept
00:44:15.540
telling me, stop taking notes during the state of the union in the gallery.
00:44:19.940
And, uh, first of all, the rules also state that no applause in the gallery.
00:44:26.680
Um, and I, I went in, I could not have a cell phone.
00:44:31.300
I wasn't supposed to have anything that could record anything.
00:44:36.940
And yet here was Congress beneath us and they were, they were taking selfies.
00:44:52.420
And this guy comes to me and says, don't take notes.
00:44:55.380
And, and I thought all I could think of was these people work for me and everybody else
00:45:13.340
Well, well, they make the rules, but they don't expect to follow them.
00:45:20.720
They're kind of looking down on the rest of us.
00:45:32.400
But, um, um, anyway, I'm glad you got a chance to experience the secret service by and large
00:45:38.880
or, uh, overworked and they're great, but they, they, they, no, they're great, but they
00:45:48.680
I, I, and I will tell you that I did ask for forgiveness, uh, you know, in my prayers at
00:45:53.520
night when I got back because I shouldn't have, I mean, I got into a stare down with
00:45:58.880
It was not, it was not pretty, not one of my finer moments.
00:46:03.700
If I had his name, I would apologize to him, but, um, I just couldn't take these ridiculous
00:46:29.240
We welcome, uh, to our studios in Washington, D.C.
00:46:39.820
It takes on, the State of the Union takes on a different feel when you're actually there.
00:46:47.440
Uh, and I was, I wouldn't necessarily call it electric, but, um, uh, but, uh, sitting up
00:46:58.780
I could see what everybody was doing with their cell phones and I could see who was engaged
00:47:04.480
It, there needs to be a camera from behind, um, and focused on, you know, all of the, the
00:47:12.280
senators and all of the, uh, house members because it really takes on a different view
00:47:18.600
when you're watching who's telling who, what, and who's whispering something and how they're
00:47:25.840
And when they're taking selfies at really inappropriate times, it was amazing.
00:47:31.480
I'd like to sit up there sometime just to get that perspective.
00:47:35.100
Um, I thought the speech last night may have definitely the best speech I think I've heard
00:47:41.180
Um, and I think it may be one of the most inspiring speeches I've heard in, uh, in, uh, a State of
00:47:50.640
Um, I'm trying to remember Bush maybe after 9-11, but I don't think so.
00:47:55.660
I think you go back to Reagan on that soaring kind of, this is who we are kind of thing.
00:48:02.140
This is the best State of the Union I've heard in a long time, certainly been since I've been
00:48:05.740
in office and really for quite a while before then.
00:48:13.960
First of all, was there anything historic that happened last night that he said or anything
00:48:21.260
Here's what I think is the single most historic takeaway.
00:48:24.120
When the President of the United States said, hey, you know, we should be concerned about
00:48:29.360
the killing of babies who have been born and are breathing.
00:48:33.440
And virtually half of the chamber in the House of Representatives, half of the senators, virtually
00:48:40.760
half of the representatives sat there, silent, stone-faced, refusing to respond in any way.
00:48:49.940
Not necessarily in a good way, but it was historic nonetheless.
00:48:53.160
It's a chilling reminder of how far our government has drifted from what normal people of ordinary
00:49:01.120
Um, I, I think they are so far out of touch with, uh, the Democrats in the art land, the
00:49:07.880
Democrats around the country, at least the Democrats that I know.
00:49:10.960
And I don't think the Democrats, um, really understand how radical these people really are.
00:49:17.700
And, and I tell you, Mike, I, I look at this every day and I talk about the radicals.
00:49:22.220
I've been talking about, you know, the socialists for a long time.
00:49:25.540
I don't think I really realized how radical they were until I sat in that chamber last night
00:49:31.040
and I watched them react when the cameras were not on them.
00:49:35.600
They mocked, they laughed, uh, they poked at each other.
00:49:41.420
It was almost like a college reunion, um, uh, atmosphere.
00:49:46.860
Um, and when he was talking about serious, serious issues, the, the, the, the border issue and the
00:49:55.800
caravan, they mocked him the whole time in the chamber.
00:50:00.280
Um, when they, when he talked about abortion and what was happening, um, they were poking
00:50:06.680
each other and rolling each other, rolling their eyes at each other.
00:50:12.420
And I think if the average Democrat would have sat where I was sitting last night, uh, I
00:50:18.540
think they would have realized, oh, these people, I mean, the mask is fully off when they don't
00:50:26.000
And I actually felt bad for you and the president and everybody else that was, that goes into this
00:50:32.180
every day, because you're not dealing with honest brokers.
00:50:35.280
You're not dealing with people who are, who they say they are.
00:50:41.920
Setting aside for a minute, those who would consider themselves Republicans or libertarians
00:50:46.440
or even independents, just the rank and file Democrat out there, I think has got to be a
00:50:51.040
little bit shocked by this more than a little bit shocked, uh, because when it was about them,
00:50:56.820
they were celebrating when the cameras were on them, they were cheering or doing whatever
00:51:04.020
It was about them when it was about the most vulnerable among us, babies who have been
00:51:10.020
born, who are in the most defenseless, vulnerable position imaginable.
00:51:15.060
They sat there stone cold silence and their silence was deafening on that.
00:51:19.880
It was, you know, I think there was a turning point, uh, and it was a warning, I think to the
00:51:24.980
American people and to Democrats, but they missed it.
00:51:27.840
Um, when we heard, um, when we heard the democratic party at their convention, deny God three times,
00:51:36.580
And I thought it was significant that they took three votes and they denied him three times.
00:51:42.920
Maybe they'll be like Peter and repent later and decide maybe we shouldn't have done that.
00:51:47.780
So I thought that was an important turning point, but that was a turning point for if you were religious,
00:52:00.060
And when they denied that a baby born should be saved, when they denied that that was life,
00:52:10.280
that was worth preserving a baby, not, we're not talking, we're not even talking in the womb.
00:52:16.320
We're talking now been born and, uh, and is disabled, or they tried to kill it through abortion
00:52:29.380
And when they didn't stand for that, and when the president of the United States has to say,
00:52:34.740
we are disturbed by the growth of socialism and, uh, this country will never be socialist.
00:52:42.960
Four years ago, they were mocking anyone who said they were socialist.
00:52:48.600
Now they didn't clap or stand to say, yeah, you're right.
00:52:58.400
And, and look, Glenn, I, I avoid ad hitlarum references like the plague.
00:53:03.600
If I only knew what ad hitlarum or hitlarian references, uh, to, to Adolf Hitler.
00:53:13.400
But at some point in a society, the minute we start talking about killing those who were
00:53:22.060
And in this case, a breathing, breathing, living human being who has been born, we need
00:53:32.260
How do we make sure that those people are protected?
00:53:35.620
I keep, when I woke up this morning, I kept thinking maybe there was a misunderstanding.
00:53:39.940
Maybe that side of the aisle couldn't hear the audio feed.
00:53:43.860
I would like to believe that there was some misunderstanding that can explain this.
00:53:51.260
I don't think it's with the American people because I don't think the American people are
00:53:55.040
But I think it's with those who have been elected and those who were in that chamber
00:53:58.620
Let me give you, let me give you, um, some perspective.
00:54:03.140
I gave a speech, I don't even remember where it was, about seven years ago.
00:54:07.880
And I had done research, um, on the most vulnerable among us and, and how Hitler, um, got there.
00:54:20.640
How did you take a group, a good group of, of people?
00:54:27.300
I mean, we were a very Germanic nation, especially back then.
00:54:33.560
They took care of their, their own children, their pets, their neighbors.
00:54:39.400
So I started doing research and, uh, it started with a baby called baby now, or it started
00:54:45.660
And, um, long story short, they started killing the most vulnerable.
00:54:52.460
But when, when they did it, you had to have three signatures from three different doctors.
00:54:59.860
Um, and all the way to the end of the war, you still had to have three signatures.
00:55:07.180
Even the Nazis said three signatures are required for the death of, of an individual.
00:55:13.880
The next thing that happened, this is very early.
00:55:17.320
They start killing these babies, just like we're now talking about.
00:55:24.820
Now, these are the people who voted for Hitler.
00:55:27.240
They voted for Hitler and they were all socialists.
00:55:36.380
It's the only time that I can find where they really pushed back and got Hitler to change,
00:55:42.760
And they pushed back and they stood up in such force that they said, we, this is not us.
00:55:49.620
That Hitler had to give a speech where he said, you're exactly right.
00:55:57.800
And he started the T4 program where they just hid it from the people.
00:56:01.860
But even the people who voted for Hitler stood up.
00:56:07.300
I hope we are those people who will push back and who will say, this is not okay.
00:56:11.980
There are some things that our laws should prohibit.
00:56:14.900
One of the most fundamental rules of any civilized society is that we prohibit the unlawful taking
00:56:23.360
So just to be clear again here, we are not talking in this instance about abortion.
00:56:27.900
You and I both have views on abortion that are different from what many Democrats in this
00:56:33.740
We are talking here about a child who has been born, who has taken his or her first breath.
00:56:40.880
If we, the people, stand up strongly to our own government and make clear to our society,
00:56:47.040
we want to protect these individuals, which I believe the overwhelming majority of Americans,
00:56:51.000
Republicans, Democrats, and everything else believes, then I think we can stand up for life
00:56:56.220
So the problem is, and I saw it with these radicals in the Progressive Women's Caucus,
00:57:03.740
last night, they mock it, and they roll their eyes when you bring it up.
00:57:10.000
And what you're seeing on social media is that the Democrats are saying, they're lying
00:57:19.760
We're talking about just cleaning up some language, old language.
00:57:24.600
There's nothing new in these bills, and they are denying it to their own people.
00:57:29.580
And because we're so polarized, the left is believing their own people who are lying to
00:57:39.280
But this, Glenn, is the kind of legal issue where one need not get wrapped around the
00:57:44.800
In other words, this is the kind of legal issue where definitions can remain simple.
00:57:52.580
And where we can make clear, if what you're talking about is terminating a pregnancy, there
00:58:01.160
But if you're talking about wanting to make sure that you can kill a human life after
00:58:05.620
that human has been born and taken its first breath, that's something terribly different.
00:58:10.060
This is why Patty Murray in the Senate was so shameful, because she stood up after Ben
00:58:16.460
Sasse said, we just want, you cannot kill a baby after birth.
00:58:30.820
If that's not what it means, you would stand up and say, that's not what it means.
00:58:34.260
And to prove it, let's take this vote because we're all against it, too.
00:58:40.940
And that's one of the reasons why we've got to keep pushing for a vote on Ben Sasse's
00:58:46.520
Ben is a hero for bringing this issue forward, for filing that legislation.
00:58:51.860
In order to pass it, we've got to continue to demand, insist on a vote over and over
00:59:05.420
OK, I've only got about a minute here before I have to take a break.
00:59:11.400
I believe the president is going to go for the national emergency thing and do something
00:59:21.140
Whether he has authority to do this depends on what the source of his authority is.
00:59:29.240
Under a line of cases called Youngstown, Sheet and Tube versus Sawyer and Dames and Moore
00:59:33.060
versus Regan, we have to look at whether or not there's a statute that designates, that
00:59:37.140
authorizes the president to take a particular action.
00:59:39.920
I think there might be, if he chooses to take the appropriate path.
00:59:44.140
I think the most defensible path for him to do that is found in Title 10 of the U.S. Code,
00:59:56.800
In the small town of Alpine, Utah, we speak of little else.
01:00:00.640
This says, basically, that the president may establish a fence along an international
01:00:05.700
boundary where necessary to stop the unlawful international trafficking of drugs.
01:00:16.280
If he uses that, I think he's on fairly solid ground.
01:00:19.200
I'd still rather it go through Congress, but if he wants to use executive authority, that
01:00:29.420
I've reached out to the White House multiple times.
01:00:34.060
I'm sure they've got their reasons for doing that, but we'll see what happens.
01:00:37.840
Mike, thank you so much for everything that you do.
01:00:40.280
And everybody I talked to last night were fans of yours.
01:00:44.480
You're one of the few that are really fighting the good fight and are not...