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On today's episode of the Glenn Beck Program, we discuss the passing of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and the reaction of President Donald Trump to the news that she was the victim of a fire accident.
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hey podcasters what a show today actually uh was a really fun show and uh you know you never know
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what to expect uh these days it could be okay we're all gonna die or like today i think a fun
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show even though we're all gonna die um we tell you all you need to know about uh what the the
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house and the senate are saying what the democrats what the far left is saying what the president is
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planning on doing and we talked to carrie severino from uh judicial crisis and the judicial network
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uh and she said some really positive and encouraging things we can get this done there's no excuse to
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not get this done by election day uh 33 days for o'connor uh ginsburg it was only a 42 day process
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uh 19 days for stevens it can be done and all of these guys have already had their fbi vetting
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they've been seen by the senate before they've testified in front of the senate so we can we can
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go and donald trump tells us we'll go by saturday find out all about it on today's podcast
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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i think we just need to start with uh first of all the president uh finding out uh while being
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asked a question by the press he comes right off of the stage from a rally and they're playing
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if you don't know this already it wasn't uh it wasn't something they added but he comes right
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off the stage and everything i mean seeing i'm like oh no no no no no no no wait what is he gonna
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say everything that he said is exactly what you've ever wanted from donald trump listen
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she just died wow i didn't know that i just uh you're telling me now for the first time
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she led an amazing life what else can you say she was an amazing woman
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whether you agreed or not she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life
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i'm actually sad to hear that i am sad to hear that thank you very much
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so absolutely true and fantastic now i don't believe he didn't know because he had to you know
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he had to tell him to up the morphine just to push it no i'm kidding
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uh but uh uh that is the way the president should have reacted i think that's the way everybody
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reacted well i was out to dinner with a bunch of friends uh on friday and uh none of us were
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wearing masks i mean we wore a mask while we were standing up to come in and out but then when we sat
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down they said we could take our masks off which made total sense it's a covid free zone when you're
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sitting at a restaurant table yeah right right right right um so anyway we were at dinner and my first
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reaction was oh no oh no oh not another log on the fire this is a big big log this is the yule log
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they're just this is the third log that doc brown put into the steam engine right before it went off
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the bridge yeah that's this is the last log this is number three um and uh so my reaction was that
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first uh and then i told everybody at the table that she had just died and everybody did the same thing
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that is that's sad sorry to lose her and especially at this time and it's not like
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we didn't like her rulings no she was a you you mourn for her family and the people who knew her and
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you know i want people to live i actually respect all human life so yeah would uh would want everyone
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to be alive doesn't seem to be the uh opinion of a lot of people uh these days um but i know but i
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will say you know as a supreme court justice she was obviously terrible well like i now what makes
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you say that and she was on the wrong side of now literally every single issue okay let me let me
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just say this in an interview in 2012 uh she said that she wouldn't look to the u.s constitution if she
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were drafting a constitution in the year 2012 she said quote i might look at the constitution of
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south africa i mean that was a deliberate attempt to have fundamental instrument of government that
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embraced human rights and have an independent judiciary really i think it's a great piece of work that was
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done so she wouldn't look to our constitution she'd look to south africa um also she uh she called for
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the sex integration of prisons and reformatories so that conditions of imprisonment security and
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housing could be equal she said if the grand design of such institutions is to prepare inmates to
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return to a community as persons equipped to benefit from and contribute to civil society then
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perpetuation of a single sex institution should be rejected okay it's a little out there i mean
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might cause some problems but uh she called for the sex integration of the boy scouts and the girl scouts
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because of the stereotypes of gender roles she insisted on integrating college fraternity and
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sorority chapters um having college social societies she may have missed the point of the sex drive
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uh you know putting all these people together she may have uh anyway um she also cast constitutional
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doubt on the legality of mothers and father's day as separate holidays because mothers can be fathers and
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fathers can be mothers i guess she asserted the laws against bigamists persons cohabitating with
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more than one woman and a woman cohabitating with a bigamist are unconstitutional um i agree with the
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way they're reading it now i happen to agree with her on that one uh she objected to laws against
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prostitution uh prostitution because prostitution as a consensual act between adults is within the zone of
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privacy protected by recent constitutional decisions but she's right about that the way it's being
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interpreted now well thanks to her right i mean she's a big reason it's being interpreted that way
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right she also said that the concept of a husband breadwinner and wife homemaker must be eliminated
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uh from the code if it's to reflect if it's to reflect an equality principle she called for
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comprehensive program of government supported child care she also wrote that the man act listen to this
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that publishes those uh punishes those who engage in interstate sex traffic of women and girls
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the man act that punishes those who engage in interstate estate sex traffic of women and girls
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is offensive such acts should be considered within the zone of privacy
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so she's not exactly not my favorite she's not my favorite she's not my favorite she also found
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words offensive and she said these words needed to go from all official documents uh man woman man
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made mankind husband wife mother father sister brother son daughter serviceman longshoreman postmaster
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watchman seamanship uh and uh to man a vessel i i uh agree with all that except longshoreman right
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right i have a strong yeah disagreement on the very strong and i understand with your history
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uh she she even wanted he she him his and hers to be dropped down the memory hole uh had to be
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replaced by him uh he she her him or his hers boy she's out of date huh uh not only was uh she very
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pro-abortion she was also on the record uh as opposing what was settled law that the constitution does not
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compelled taxpayers to pay for abortions she said fully funded abortions should be a constitutional
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right again i might disagree with her here and there right she also called for affirmative action
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hiring quotas for women using the police as an example she said affirmative action is called for
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in this situation so anyway she's she's done a lot of things that you disagree with um however
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today today today after her death i think it's important to remember one of her her really strong
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arguments um she said she couldn't imagine donald trump back in 2016 getting elected um you know for
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the country it could be four years for the court it could be i don't even want to contemplate that
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um but so she didn't really like donald trump at all but she did come out in 2016 and uh make it very
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very clear that the sitting president even a lame duck president in the last months of his term had to
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fulfill his constitutional duty and she made a very very big point about this now i have heard from aoc that
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her dying wish which we can't violate her dying wish is that donald trump does not nominate somebody
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else didn't realize the supreme court was a make-a-wish foundation i did not uh realize that's how they're
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taking her body to disneyland uh right now she wanted to see that one last time uh and this was
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her final wish that was her make-a-wish this one's her final wish okay i was like really they're
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we're in a dizzy world that's so weird it's so strange like 2020 you could be like okay
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i was like wow all right she's laying in state in the magic castle huh okay
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that's a screw to the series i totally bought that
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oh man this is the best of the glenbeck program
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thomas king is uh the attorney in pennsylvania that uh went into court fighting the covid
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19 lockdown we welcome him to the program now how are you sir oh i'm just fine thank you glenn i'm
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honored to be here thank you congratulations on the uh win uh tell me about tell me what you were
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fighting and how it went uh we were fighting um the governor of pennsylvania and the secretary of
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health like in a lot of places across the country um decided that it would be a great idea to lock down
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13 million pennsylvanians in their homes and to shut down half of our businesses uh to put people out
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of work um in order to to on the on the guys that uh they were going to protect the public health
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um they also prohibited people from attending uh rallies for 250 people or more um or any sort
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of events although our governor marched in a protest that had hundreds of people and our health secretary
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did a secret deal that came out in our case that allowed 20 000 people a day to go to a car show
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in carlisle and they told president trump he couldn't come to gettysburg and accept the
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republican nomination if he had more than 250 people wow so what happened in the court case
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um we were in front of uh judge william stickman in the federal court in the united states district court
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for the western district of pennsylvania and judge stickman uh last week issued a wonderful
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opinion and order um upholding the constitutional rights of pennsylvanians striking down their um
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stay-at-home orders their business closure orders and uh their congregate number orders um allowing
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people to have uh to go watch their kids play high school football uh have weddings uh have political
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events and so pennsylvania the yoke of of uh the yoke of the of the governor and secretary of health
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were lifted by a federal court from our backs and shoulders in pennsylvania last week are they going
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to argue and take it up to a higher court oh they are they they've already said that they intend to
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appeal um actually we have until noon today to tell judge stickman why uh he should not stay the uh order
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and so we're uh after i get off this interview we're going to be uh filing with uh judge stickman
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and telling him to stick to his guns and uh do not uh issue a stay so we hope that we're successful and
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pennsylvania is they're breathing uh some some breath of freedom here today glenn there's um uh some
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frightening things happening in pennsylvania now with the with the um vote that is coming up uh you're
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looking now it's going in through your highest court on uh they're trying to get uh this cleared through
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the court to be able to say you don't need a postmark for your mail-in ballot until the friday
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after the election there's there's no way people will you you think that they will rule against it
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they already have and it's all it's worse than that um they've okayed uh putting in these uh collection
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bins um much of which is being funded by mark zuckerberg um 250 million dollars was put
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into a uh a very small charity um that that he's now using to try to uh uh fund the the blue cities
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and counties um to put in these boxes and um really to obviate uh what would have been years and years
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of election law in pennsylvania our supreme court has already ruled that uh recently this past week
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they've ruled that they're gonna they're gonna be able to count ballots three days after the
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presidential election um and they're gonna collect these things in bins so there's not going to be
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any postmarks on on on most of these uh ballots so it's uh really abominable i look for uh uh almost
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instantaneous challenges i suspect that uh the the house of representatives will file a challenge here
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and uh that that will be in federal court not in the state supreme court where the democrats hold a
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five to two majority in our state supreme court because this won't this won't that americans
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won't accept things like that i mean you know the rest of the country pennsylvanians might but the rest
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of the country won't if you if you didn't play by the rules and you can just throw things in with even
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without a postmark uh you know three up to three days after the election who's gonna who's gonna believe
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that's real well i don't believe it's real and i don't think uh i don't think most pennsylvanians
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think it's real um but it is certainly where we are today um and this this so-called new normal you
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know when judge dickman said there is no new normal under the pennsyl under the united states constitution
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there is no new normal we have a constitution and that's what we have to abide by
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it's bad news glenn it's really bad news are good i don't i think i don't think people are
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going to stand for it are good um good attorneys who are on the right are they volunteering their
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time to to fight and to monitor and to be there to be able to file the other side because we know
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the the left has attorneys already assigned all over the country yeah we have lots of we have lots of
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legal power we have uh just from our case we've received uh literally dozens and dozens of offers
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and calls um and so we also know that in pennsylvania we have terrific lawyers uh representing
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uh the republican party and the and the and the people um in this particular fight so um i look look
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forward to a to a real battle here over these recent pronouncements from the supreme court all right let me
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uh just take you back one last question on on pennsylvania the ruling that happened last week with
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you uh where you got a judge to say these things are uh are unconstitutional you can't lock the people up
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uh like this for covid if the judge grants the stay then that means it goes to the uh higher court right
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no well whether he whether he grants whether he grants a stay or not um it's going to go to the
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third circuit court of appeals um which covers pennsylvania new jersey delaware and the virgin islands
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and um so it'll go to that court which is the court right below the u.s supreme court but you
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how what does he have to rule so you can start to open things up uh he just has to deny their the stay
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deny the stay um yeah and that's that's today now they can also file again for a stay in the third
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circuit court of appeals so we'll see what happens there as well okay thank you very much thomas i
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appreciate it thomas king attorney for uh the pennsylvania counties that were fighting covid19
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you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
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so you said you'll make the announcement this week can you tell us more about that will it be
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the beginning of the week what day i think it'll be on friday or saturday and we want to pay respect
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we uh it looks like it looks like uh we will have probably services on thursday or friday as i
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understand it i think in all due respect we should wait till the services are over for justice ginsburg
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and so we're looking probably at friday or maybe saturday so i think that's nice um i would imagine
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that there are some radicals out out there going well just don't bury her for a month uh because we can
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make it uh in time and i think it's really important that the republicans and the president
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do this we have uh carrie severino on with us she is the president of judicial crisis uh and we wanted
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to talk to her and i guess i guess carrie the first question is do we have enough time to confirm a scotus
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replacement before the election uh the answer is yes absolutely you look at like justice o'connor she was
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confirmed 33 days after her nomination was submitted and she was unanimously confirmed you have justice
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ginsburg herself 42 days again almost unanimously and uh justice stevens 19 days now that was you know
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that was you know a couple decades ago but we can we can totally do it and what's interesting is all of
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these women that the president is looking at they have been recently confirmed by the senate and i think
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all with bipartisan majority so the senate has seen them recently their information like their
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background file from the fbi all is almost up to date already i think there's not a lot standing
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in the way of moving forward we already know you know even the senators are familiar with all of these
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not potential nominees okay so um he said he had a list of five but three of them we know are you
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familiar with those three female judges yes yeah the three that we hear a lot about um are amy coney
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barrett obviously everyone remembers her dogma lives loudly within you moment with senator feinstein last
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year those anti-catholic attacks that went on she held her own with grace under pressure she's the
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mother of seven including two children who were adopted from haiti just a really inspiring story
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in her life barbara lagoa who uh had spent over a decade in the florida state courts now is on the
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11th circuit thanks to donald trump she is the daughter of cuban immigrants um who really speaks
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eloquently about her own parents uh desire to come here because they wanted their children to grow up in a
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nation of laws not a tyrannical government and so she's very committed to making sure that the role
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of a judge is to just interpret the law not make it up and then allison rushing is someone else the
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president mentioned she's a fourth circuit nominee um she is someone who has a distinguished legal
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career she clerked for justice thomas like i did she also came under fire like barrett during her
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confirmation process because she'd been involved in the group alliance defending freedom which stands for
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religious freedom and things like that so she understands also what it's like to be attacked
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for your faith so the one that i mean let's just play politics here for a second then i'll quickly
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switch to constitution but the one who makes sense i think on both sides politically and also uh with
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the constitution is uh barbara lagoa i mean the background of her being cuban she's from florida
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cuban and then uh more importantly being the first american generation i think those people get it
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much more than anybody else and i think that that's a strong vote for her on sticking to the
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constitution would you agree or all three of them that way who's the best on holding to the
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constitution do you think you know the great thing about that these these final shortlisters that we're
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we're hearing about i honestly i think all of them would be outstanding i could put my seal of approval
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on all of them in terms of what i've seen of their record on the court so that's really encouraging
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yeah they all have slightly different stories but i think all have inspiring stories and it's
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interesting they're going to all thankfully very much diverge from where justice ginsburg would be in
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terms of her jurisprudence right but i do think they carry on that same tradition of being strong
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women you know being path-breaking in many ways um you know in particular when you think of barrett
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you know doing all this with seven kids how many how many mothers of seven do you know who are
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that accomplished in their field and have have risen that far uh lagoa obviously with her
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your inspiring story of coming here and and being the first generation so it's these are these are
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people who can really fit into that um that legacy nicely in terms of all of the best things i think
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about justice ginsburg of of her uh her strength and her courage do you um do you see any of these
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fitting a scalia or a thomas kind of standard oh that's that's the reason they're on the list
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right i mean you've got people like barrett who was a scalia clerk and i've heard one of his favorite
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clerks uh rushing was a thomas clerk um and and uh lagoa didn't clerk for either one of them but i i
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love that there was a meme that went around right after she was nominated it said lagoa it's spanish
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for clarence thomas um in that and that's really how i think a lot of the conservative
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movement in in florida views her i don't think she's has as much you know known as much nationally
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but so i think all of them that's the reason they're picked is this approach to the law where
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you look first and foremost at what the text says it's not what i wish it said it's not what i think
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in 2020 we should update it to say it's what did our elected representatives pass what does the
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constitution itself actually say and then you know let the chips fall where they may and if it's not the
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result you want go back to congress and fix it so you were just concerned i think all americans are
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just concerned that we would have another roberts pick that oh yes you know that's been devastating
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devastating well that's why i think what you're seeing and this is something that all of trump's
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list was really chosen with robert in mind when when when uh molly hemmingwood and i were working
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on a book on the kavanaugh nomination justice on trial we learned that part of his vetting process
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was trying to find like the anti-roberts someone who they thought would be strong in the face of
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pressure that's why it's so exciting to see people for example you know like like the the barrett or
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the russian who got pressure during their confirmation process and nonetheless stood up to
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it you know lagoa has had she already on the 11th circuit has had people trying to launch politically
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motivated recusal campaigns and she stood firm she's like no i don't have to recuse in this case this is
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an important case i i'm gonna sit on it so you have to have someone who has illustrated in their
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career that they've got that spine and what's exciting is all these women i have shown they
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have spines but but lagoa is the only one that hasn't been already in front of of uh a hearing
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right oh no she she was just recently confirmed to the 11th circuit okay by the senate so so all three
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of them have been confirmed by this senate well or this this is the previous senate but within the
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trump administration so again all of their you know their their vetting has been recently updated
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they have been um they've gone through that kind of harrowing process once recently so i feel like
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you know we we're talking about people all of whom are ready um well if you can ever be ready for what
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we expect is coming because we know that you know the kavana nomination was crazy i don't know how you
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make it crazier but i know that there's democrats right now having brainstorming sessions trying to
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figure out i mean but you're a little boy that cried wolf i mean you you do that a second time i
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think that galvanized uh the country a lot of people changed their view of what was going on in
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the democratic party because of that and to have that kind of an outrageous scene again i think would
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be devastating to the democrats yeah i know i think you're exactly right they totally overstepped and
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i think it really hurt them yet somehow you know when you look at all the stuff going on they don't
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think they've gotten that message there's i i think that the radical edge of the party is um you know
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it's going crazy and they're kind of setting themselves on fire sometimes literally in ways that
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i don't think is what most americans and certainly not independents and you know the moderate
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wing of the democratic party wants to see so you know have at it over overstep again let's see how
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that works for you is there anything in their records that that has been drug out that uh could
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be expanded as you have you seen anything that is bad or not bad but just like oh geez that's there
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uh and they had to explain it but it could be made up into something bigger have you seen any trouble
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or weak spots in any of these people well there's certainly stuff in their records that's going to
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get controversy but i think generally it's controversy for all the right reasons you know
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it's going to get stuff people going oh my gosh how could you have you know there's there's cases
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where they've all ruled and someone's going to go well that's a really sympathetic plaintiff and their
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answer which is the right answer to be you know what that's what the law said and i don't write the
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law that's not my job as a judge so so what i what i have seen is you're of course you're going to get
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controversy but i think it's going to be the right kind of controversy on these nominees that we're
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looking at and that's that's really excited now they haven't none of them have had case in every
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single area of law no one has um but i think we have a lot of really you know these are all people
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with with records that we can look at and that's what that's what it has to come down to is you look
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at the objective record that they have um so you can see how they really perform on the bench is there
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anything that the democrats can do seeing that the senate is controlled by the republicans
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and a lot of weenie republicans but is there anything that the senate can do uh the democrats
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can do to stop this dead in its tracks is there any any trick you know in the parliamentary rules
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to be able to stop this or can can mitch mcconnell if he can keep his crowd together proceed
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i think if he's got 50 votes he can do it because we got we got the vice president and and i hope he
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gets more than 50 votes but um you know obviously i'm i am not a senate rules expert that stuff is
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crazy it's really yeah i'm sure they're out there brainstorming again trying to find some hole but if
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they couldn't do it for kavanaugh i don't think they're going to be able to find it now and uh you
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know we will see we'll see crazy stuff going on like where they remember what even during the first
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kavanaugh hearing where they tried to just talk over chairman grassley oh it took an hour to get
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stuff like that you know made for tv little moment right but i don't think they actually
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at the end of the day are going to have the vote and last question um as they uh as they go through
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and you're looking and saying you know they need to have 50 we're going to lose romney which would
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bring us 250 uh we've got the two the two that have already said they're not on board uh and then
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if you lose romney you're at 50 is there anybody else that you're concerned that might go would you
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watch any of that stuff you know it's it's hard to keep track i know there's people who they don't
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want to have a vote now or whatever i do think it's going to be hard when you are looking at one
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of these women in the face and you see the outstanding role models that they are the path
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breaking careers that they've led i think it's going to be hard to come to a point and say yeah i'm
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gonna i don't think this person deserves vote so you know we'll see i think leader mcconnell
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knows better than anyone where his votes are and he's going to be in charge of how to how to
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navigate this to the senate he did it for gorsuch he did it for kavanaugh those are really controversial
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i'm confident he can do that again that's great well you i feel so much better talking to you
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uh let's please stay in touch because i'm gonna i'm gonna need to stay uh in a happy mood and i think
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america needs to uh carrie thank you very much for your analysis appreciate it