The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Tim Ballard, Arthur Brooks & Andrew Heaton ｜ 4⧸17⧸19

00:00:00.000 Hey, podcasters, another fantastic show.

00:00:03.680 We start with Tim Ballard, who talks about the border in a way that I think we have to talk about.

00:00:10.340 We have to talk about the human cost of what's happening on the border,

00:00:14.080 and it is a bigger crisis than anyone thinks.

00:00:16.480 Tim went and testified in front of Congress.

00:00:20.060 Unfortunately, it was the House of Representatives, and they shut him down and wouldn't let him.

00:00:24.420 They call him to testify and then not let him tell them the truth.

00:00:28.880 They say all of his facts are irrelevant.

00:00:31.740 You need to hear this.

00:00:32.940 Also, Arthur Brooks joins us.

00:00:34.380 He's from the American Enterprise Institute,

00:00:36.980 and we talk about the different things that are going on

00:00:41.680 and the opportunities that we have now that socialism is really starting to rear its ugly head.

00:00:49.480 Comments on Notre Dame, Andrew Heaton is in trouble,

00:00:53.040 Trump's veto, parents burning porn, 0.98

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00:01:01.260 Not you.

00:01:02.160 No, not me.

00:01:02.960 Are you going to be studying this on a future episode of Glenn Beck TV,

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00:01:10.460 Oh, I'll expose cat lovers. 0.97

00:01:11.980 You bet.

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00:01:13.420 I'll jump up on their counter and see how much they like it.

00:01:15.820 Like Beto.

00:01:16.580 Oh, my God.

00:01:17.180 Cats are like Beto.

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00:01:18.740 They jump up on counters all the time.

00:01:20.520 Yes.

00:01:20.980 I got the same thing.

00:01:21.840 Yes.

00:01:22.300 Same thing.

00:01:23.060 All on today's podcast.

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00:02:32.040 So yesterday I received an op-ed from a friend.

00:02:36.300 He said, Glenn, would you read this?

00:02:38.960 We wanted to publish it, so it's up on the blaze now.

00:02:42.600 Our friend is Tim Ballard, who is the CEO or chairman, or I don't remember what you are,

00:02:49.900 the CEO of the Nazarene Fund, and also are you the CEO of Operation Underground Railroad?

00:02:58.000 And of McDonald's.

00:02:59.060 And of McDonald's.

00:02:59.740 Yeah, which is impressive.

00:03:00.580 And of McDonald's.

00:03:00.900 Because you're very busy.

00:03:01.860 Very busy, yes.

00:03:02.780 Yeah.

00:03:03.680 And a handsome man joining us right away.

00:03:07.680 I want to go through the article.

00:03:10.120 The first two paragraphs are stunning for entirely different reasons.

00:03:14.680 But let me just read the first two paragraphs.

00:03:16.260 A couple of weeks ago, I was called to testify before a subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee.

00:03:21.120 As former Homeland Security special agent undercover operator, I worked child trafficking cases for over a decade along the southern border.

00:03:29.840 I was there to testify about the sex trafficking threat that awaits vulnerable migrant children being brought into the United States.

00:03:36.580 Shortly after I began my testimony, the chairwoman of the committee, politely but firmly,

00:03:40.880 let me know that my testimony was irrelevant for this particular hearing, as this hearing was about the U.S. government's policy of separating undocumented families on the borders and not about child trafficking.

00:03:52.940 As it is against hearing procedure for a witness to provide unsolicited comments to the members of the committee,

00:03:59.200 I had to sit there in silence, yet with full knowledge that the chairwoman was wrong.

00:04:05.800 Yep.

00:04:06.580 Tim, how frustrating is that?

00:04:08.340 It's killing me because it's these trafficking events are happening in so many places and we're trying to wake the nations of the world up to the fact that it is happening.

00:04:19.320 Children are being abused.

00:04:20.400 It's the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet.

00:04:22.580 And yet, when it's right before us, and I'm there before the people who can change it, and I'm told... 0.99

00:04:29.400 Shut up. 1.00

00:04:29.900 Shut up. 1.00

00:04:30.420 We don't want to talk about that right now. 0.99

00:04:32.020 Tell me, the numbers are staggering on what's happening on our border.

00:04:37.940 Oh, yeah.

00:04:38.700 I mean, the amount of people, just the people coming across, record-breaking, undocumented migrants coming across into the United States.

00:04:47.540 But the part that's not being reported, because in the 90s and in the 2000s, it was adult males looking for work, crossing the border.

00:04:56.820 Not anymore.

00:04:58.260 These are children.

00:04:59.180 They're bringing...

00:04:59.680 Children are coming across by the thousands.

00:05:02.000 There's been over a 300% increase since 2017 alone.

00:05:06.680 And children being brought across the border who don't belong to the adult who has them. 0.62

00:05:13.500 So we said, when Congress was saying, we can't hold children, I immediately got on the air and said, that is the worst thing that could happen.

00:05:23.340 That's the worst thing that could happen, because grab a child and you're good.

00:05:26.860 The child is now the get-out-of-jail-free card for smugglers, for traffickers.

00:05:33.120 They're surrendering themselves and say, look, I have a child in my hand.

00:05:37.100 A passport in my hand.

00:05:38.920 Let me in.

00:05:39.940 And the guys on the border, they're great.

00:05:42.440 They understand.

00:05:43.260 And they're like, help us.

00:05:44.140 They're screaming to Congress.

00:05:45.360 I sat in hearings with the CBP commissioner who's saying, help us.

00:05:49.600 You are forcing us to turn these children over to whoever comes to get them.

00:05:55.240 We only have 20 days.

00:05:56.380 The courts have backed it up.

00:05:57.720 And we have 20 days to vet people coming and saying, hello.

00:06:01.720 I'm Uncle...

00:06:02.420 Like I wrote in the hotbed.

00:06:03.520 Hello, I'm Uncle George.

00:06:04.800 Little Isabel, six-year-old that you have in custody, is my niece.

00:06:08.900 They have to give the child to Uncle George.

00:06:11.360 They have no time to vet these kids.

00:06:13.440 You know, in contrast, you know, I adopted two children recently from Haiti.

00:06:16.920 It was over one year of them vetting me.

00:06:19.840 I've had three, you know, top secret clearances in my lifetime.

00:06:23.520 I'm the one who liberated those children in the first place.

00:06:26.140 And yet, I happily submitted myself and my wife and my family to an investigation to make sure we were well-suited to take care of children.

00:06:36.580 A year!

00:06:38.480 And Congress is giving our Cubs and Border officials 20 days or less to vet whoever shows up for these children.

00:06:47.160 And, oh, sure, they have to sign a document, right, that says, I will not hurt this child.

00:06:52.460 I will not traffic this child.

00:06:55.000 Like you're checking out a library book.

00:06:57.200 And then it says, a court date, you must bring this child back for either a deportation or asylum hearing on this date.

00:07:03.740 66% of those kids never are brought back for court.

00:07:07.100 They're gone.

00:07:07.640 All right.

00:07:07.900 So there are two scenarios that are happening with the kids.

00:07:11.100 One is they are just used and passed back and forth on the border, right?

00:07:16.840 Yes.

00:07:17.140 They're kind of a mule, if you will.

00:07:19.080 Is that the right word?

00:07:20.100 Right.

00:07:20.300 Well, I say they're recycled.

00:07:22.060 They're the get-out-of-jail-free card, basically.

00:07:23.760 And that's the best case, and it's abhorrent.

00:07:26.040 Children are being used as long as you have these kids.

00:07:28.120 And by the way, where are these kids coming from?

00:07:29.480 They're being kidnapped in Central America.

00:07:31.860 The separation of families isn't happening necessarily at the border.

00:07:36.720 It's happening well before they get to the border.

00:07:38.520 And that's the thing we're not seeing as a nation.

00:07:41.800 And so these kids are basically, the smugglers control all the routes, first of all.

00:07:45.660 You can't get in the country unless you go through a smuggler.

00:07:48.400 So they just have to get these children.

00:07:49.760 It's not too hard to kidnap children in Guatemala or Honduras or Central America.

00:07:53.020 And they take these kids, and they pair them with their clients,

00:07:55.520 their clients being the people who want to be smuggled in.

00:07:57.940 And say, take this child, pretend this child is your child, 0.76

00:08:01.900 and guys, 20 days or less, you're out.

00:08:04.600 Because they have to let you out because the law of the United States,

00:08:07.380 backed by recent court decisions, forces CBP officials to release you within 20 days

00:08:13.020 if you have this child in your hand.

00:08:14.680 That's the best case for these children who are being used this way.

00:08:19.260 And of course, the worst case is the smugglers say,

00:08:21.900 and we have the New York Times even about a month ago had a story,

00:08:26.900 several stories about how smugglers take these clients and decide, 0.94

00:08:31.080 geez, I can make a lot more money with them if I just sell them for sex. 1.00

00:08:33.820 Or they use them, they rape them and get their money out of them 1.00

00:08:37.240 for what they're owed for the smuggling fee.

00:08:40.960 And so it's very easy to imagine a criminal organization that are smuggling people,

00:08:45.800 and they say, let's sex traffic them. 1.00

00:08:48.140 We can make more money. 0.99

00:08:49.200 The U.S., we are the demand. 0.99

00:08:50.680 We are the top demand for child sex in the world. 0.99

00:08:53.460 That is crazy.

00:08:54.400 So now we've set things up and all using our laws, right?

00:08:58.380 So now if you can imagine this, all a trafficker needs to do if you get into their mind

00:09:02.200 is say, look, I've got to take this child.

00:09:04.980 As long as I can get this child across.

00:09:06.420 And I mean, I saw a video, I don't know if you saw this video a few months ago,

00:09:10.040 of dropping the kids over the wall, over the fence, just dropping them.

00:09:13.860 And then they know, you know, Border Patrol will come get them and get them into safety.

00:09:18.200 Well, then they just call their friends up in the traffickers,

00:09:21.140 their friends in New York, Phoenix, wherever.

00:09:22.660 Hey, go to the McAllen Processing Center.

00:09:25.240 Ask for Isabel Gomez.

00:09:26.760 She's six years old.

00:09:27.500 I just dropped her over the fence. 1.00

00:09:29.100 And so Uncle George shows up.

00:09:30.700 Hey, I'm Uncle George.

00:09:31.620 I've got to pick up my niece.

00:09:33.020 They have to give the kid over.

00:09:35.440 It is absolutely insane.

00:09:37.760 And I couldn't get a word in edgewise when I was called to testify on that very subject.

00:09:42.800 So now here's the interesting part.

00:09:45.060 1,700 children in the last 12 months, 1,700 children have had the guts to say,

00:09:56.880 that's not my uncle.

00:09:59.100 That's not my dad.

00:10:01.280 1,700 documented cases in the last 12 months.

00:10:06.920 How many kids are not brave enough to say that?

00:10:10.500 How many kids have been told your family's in danger, your family's dead, whatever it is.

00:10:17.360 How many children have the guts and the wherewithal to see a guy, an American with a badge, 1.00

00:10:27.040 and say, help me?

00:10:29.460 How many?

00:10:31.160 There have been 1,700 in the last 12 months.

00:10:34.920 And that number is only growing.

00:10:36.500 Oh, absolutely.

00:10:38.180 And the amount of people coming across, hundreds of thousands.

00:10:42.460 Just this year, I think we're close to half a million.

00:10:45.420 So, you know, how many kids are here and in?

00:10:49.180 And they're in our sex markets. 0.88

00:10:50.600 And we rescue them.

00:10:52.140 And you've met some of our survivors, Glenn, who came in as undocumented migrant children

00:10:59.160 and were raped, and this is not an exaggeration, over 20,000 times before we finally pulled

00:11:04.140 them out of New York City or L.A. or wherever they're being held. 0.98

00:11:07.840 I mean, this is a massive sex market.

00:11:09.800 Again, the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet is human trafficking. 0.90

00:11:13.380 And the United States is the number one demand for child sex.

00:11:16.900 So it's happening in our cities right here.

00:11:19.060 And the traffickers are laughing all the way because our laws are actually facilitating

00:11:23.160 the trafficking event.

00:11:24.120 We've made it so much easier.

00:11:25.360 We've made it easy to come in.

00:11:29.260 Yes, but there are solutions.

00:11:30.520 Okay, I'm going to take one minute.

00:11:32.000 And these are the things you need to ask your senator and congressman and the president to

00:11:38.260 do.

00:11:38.720 And they're really quite simple.

00:11:43.560 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:11:51.980 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:12:03.040 We are thrilled to have Arthur Brooks, president of the American Enterprise Institute, at least

00:12:07.120 for a little while longer.

00:12:08.220 He's leaving the organization that he started, and he's going to become a professor at Harvard.

00:12:18.340 Welcome to the program.

00:12:19.640 Thank you, Glenn.

00:12:20.260 Great to see you.

00:12:21.040 Good to see you.

00:12:21.480 So we have to start with a very long time lie we've been living.

00:12:25.900 What is it?

00:12:26.460 Stu and I both have a very difficult time, and we just, for our friendship's sake, we want

00:12:33.260 this out.

00:12:34.280 Okay, let's get it out there.

00:12:35.320 Let's get this fixed.

00:12:36.640 We both have the worst time.

00:12:40.920 We call you Albert Brooks all the time.

00:12:45.000 This has to be a nightmare of your life.

00:12:47.240 Yeah, so two years ago, I was at sort of a camp thing for lots and lots of guys, and

00:12:52.800 we were all hanging around, and I looked over to my left around a campfire, and there was

00:12:56.500 sitting Albert Brooks, you know, the film director, the comedian.

00:13:00.460 And I looked at him, and I said, you're Albert Brooks.

00:13:03.520 And he said, what's your name?

00:13:04.220 I said, my name is Arthur Brooks.

00:13:05.440 And he said, no.

00:13:06.780 I said, yeah.

00:13:07.420 And you know what else?

00:13:08.580 People have been calling me Albert Brooks since I was a kid.

00:13:10.820 He's like 10 years older than I am.

00:13:12.220 He said, since I was a kid, because you're so famous.

00:13:14.860 And he looks at me, he doesn't crack a smile, and he says, imagine how Adam Hitler felt. 0.66

00:13:23.600 So if we call you Albert, it's just, it's all good.

00:13:27.400 You know, I've been here my whole life.

00:13:29.080 Better than calling you Adam Hitler.

00:13:30.420 Yeah, I'll say that.

00:13:31.480 Every time we talk to you, we look at each other like, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.

00:13:36.620 Oh, it's terrible.

00:13:37.420 I don't even like, I mean, Albert Brooks is fine, he's funny, but it's not like I'm a

00:13:41.700 huge fan of his movies.

00:13:42.520 I don't know why.

00:13:43.060 You know who his real name is?

00:13:45.040 No.

00:13:45.580 Albert Einstein is his real name. 0.99

00:13:48.340 Shut up. 0.99

00:13:48.860 I'm kidding. 1.00

00:13:49.480 I'm not kidding you.

00:13:50.540 It's Albert Einstein.

00:13:51.200 You're kidding or you're not kidding?

00:13:52.080 I'm not kidding.

00:13:52.560 I promise I'm not kidding.

00:13:53.460 And what happened is he changed it to Albert Brooks, because you're not going to go into

00:13:57.140 show business named Albert Einstein.

00:13:59.820 You should change your name to Albert Einstein.

00:14:01.900 I should change my name to Arthur Einstein.

00:14:05.440 And people will still call me Albert.

00:14:07.140 All right.

00:14:09.220 So, Arthur, you have a new documentary out, and I have seen it, and it is really good.

00:14:14.720 Really good.

00:14:15.500 Thank you, Clint.

00:14:15.900 You are, you know, we were talking the other day about Buttigieg, and he is the, he's playing

00:14:27.400 it the nice guy.

00:14:28.480 Right.

00:14:29.040 He may be a nice guy.

00:14:30.280 I don't know anything about him other than, you know, what you read about.

00:14:32.920 And he seems like a really nice, normal guy, a guy who comes out and says, yeah, I'm gay.

00:14:37.240 And you know what?

00:14:38.520 I also eat Chick-fil-A, and I like it.

00:14:41.000 Right.

00:14:41.840 And it's a guy who's coming out now and saying, you know, I don't hate everybody that you're

00:14:48.340 supposed to hate.

00:14:49.900 That's fighting fire with water.

00:14:52.800 Right.

00:14:53.620 And that usually works.

00:14:56.060 It generally does, particularly after a period of hate and polarization.

00:14:59.540 The reason that that actually can work right now is because 93% of Americans say they hate

00:15:06.280 how divided we become as a country.

00:15:07.840 And every single person listening to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree

00:15:11.520 politically.

00:15:12.220 But there's a class that's getting rich and powerful and famous, largely in politics and

00:15:16.620 in media and on campuses, saying you got to hate people who you disagree with, that they're 1.00

00:15:21.260 deviant, they're stupid, and they're evil. 1.00

00:15:23.120 And in our hearts, we know that's wrong. 1.00

00:15:25.320 You know, in this movie you talked about, in The Pursuit, in this movie, you know, we

00:15:28.760 sit down with people who call themselves democratic socialists.

00:15:31.520 They're awesome people.

00:15:33.200 They're great people.

00:15:34.060 They love their fellow men and women.

00:15:35.840 I have different policy ideas.

00:15:37.400 I think I have better ways to get at their objectives.

00:15:39.660 But their objectives aren't wrong, and most people know that.

00:15:42.980 And so Pete Buttigieg and a few other people are actually going to, they're trying to rage

00:15:48.620 against the contempt machine in this country by saying, you want something better.

00:15:53.400 The product is crummy.

00:15:54.640 I'm going to give it to you.

00:15:55.440 Will it win?

00:15:56.140 We'll see.

00:15:57.300 Will it even get past the people who are making an awful lot of money on hate and

00:16:02.280 the outrage industrial complex?

00:16:04.240 Yeah, we don't know.

00:16:05.460 Here's a clip of The Pursuit.

00:16:09.200 I don't claim to have all the answers, but the answers that I've found have truly changed

00:16:13.540 my life.

00:16:14.140 Arthur Brooks, sir.

00:16:17.840 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:16:18.940 It's an honor to be here and with all of you.

00:16:20.740 Poverty is the thing I care about the most.

00:16:22.960 I think that the suspicion that people have about capitalism comes because they think people

00:16:30.040 like me don't believe in morals and they don't believe in any regulation at all.

00:16:35.740 That's not true.

00:16:37.420 Here's the great irony of our times.

00:16:40.000 People in the wealthiest countries in the world are increasingly turning against the very

00:16:44.520 system that's lifted us out of poverty.

00:16:46.780 If India had not adopted economic reforms, there would be 375 million poor people more

00:16:53.480 in the country today.

00:16:55.240 Whatever we got to do to get the American dream honestly, then that's what we're going

00:16:58.480 to do, you know?

00:16:59.280 The American dream is always predicated on you work hard, you get the right grades, you

00:17:05.380 go to the right schools.

00:17:06.560 And a lot of times it doesn't work that way.

00:17:08.800 The real poverty exists when a young man or a young woman grows up with no dream.

00:17:17.400 That's poverty, man.

00:17:19.800 You know, it goes away.

00:17:21.200 What are we going to do?

00:17:21.920 They didn't think about that.

00:17:22.720 They didn't expect it.

00:17:23.500 They didn't expect it.

00:17:25.380 Two billion people have been pulled out of starvation level poverty.

00:17:28.940 What did that?

00:17:29.720 Everyone wants a happy life, do not want suffering.

00:17:36.620 You are showing genuine interest, not only money matter, but more wider perspective.

00:17:43.220 Ideally, very much appreciate it.

00:17:45.180 Thank you.

00:17:45.800 Thank you, Your Holiness.

00:17:46.500 The point of the American experience is a moral consensus that our society should push

00:17:57.780 opportunity to the people who need it the most.

00:18:02.360 Here's why Arthur Brooks is even more talented than Albert Brooks.

00:18:09.480 Albert's listening, though.

00:18:10.580 He, if you watch that, you are the only person that believes in the free market that I have

00:18:20.100 seen that understands heart and imagery.

00:18:24.620 You're not there with the Pope.

00:18:26.860 You're there with the Dalai Lama.

00:18:29.160 You are on stage with a French horn, and it says in the trailer, a musician.

00:18:36.420 That is not a guy next to a tractor.

00:18:40.580 And you are able to break through to the other side.

00:18:47.600 There's images of you with briefing President Obama.

00:18:54.800 You are able to get in to places that most conservatives or most constitutionalist and strict

00:19:02.760 libertarian, real liberals, classic liberals, can't go, nor care to go.

00:19:10.580 Um, and you have all of the imagery that you need to be able to break the, the divide.

00:19:18.420 Yeah, that's the idea.

00:19:19.240 And that's why, how, how a movie can really change people's conversations in a big way.

00:19:24.300 You know, one of the things I was trying to do in this film, and what I've been trying

00:19:27.720 to do with my career, by the way, is to get to the places where conservative, traditional

00:19:31.800 conservatives don't get to go and have the conversations they don't typically have.

00:19:35.720 Why?

00:19:35.860 Not just because I'm going to convince people on the other side, because I want people who

00:19:39.740 are persuadable, who are watching the conversation to say, huh, you know, there, I saw a guy

00:19:46.000 who's got free market views, who believes in, in, in, in conservative ideas.

00:19:50.220 Why?

00:19:50.760 Because he wants to lift people up from the margins.

00:19:52.360 And he was having a conversation with, with iconic figures from the other side and no

00:19:57.140 horns, no anger, no, no vitriol, no contempt, no hatred, no disrespect.

00:20:02.520 And, you know, that's really what people want.

00:20:04.720 And, and if we want to win the country for a better set of ideas so that we can have more

00:20:09.460 solidarity and brotherhood and happiness and love in this country, we need to go.

00:20:13.760 We're not invited.

00:20:14.420 We need to say the things that people have not heard before.

00:20:17.660 We need to share with everybody is the bottom line.

00:20:20.880 And that's what puts joy in our hearts.

00:20:22.620 Glenn, you've been, you've been trying to do this too.

00:20:25.220 You know, you, you, you want to talk to everybody.

00:20:27.360 I mean, when, when I look at, you know, the, what, what the charity is doing, I mean, I saw

00:20:31.320 the, I saw the trailer for your charity yesterday at the Dallas film festival where the, where

00:20:35.400 the pursuit was, and it's, it blew my mind.

00:20:38.220 I mean, there's no way that somebody's going to say, oh, it's Glenn Beck, the conservative

00:20:41.020 guy.

00:20:41.460 They would say, this is an organization dedicated to ending slavery around the world, to lifting

00:20:46.420 people up.

00:20:46.920 It has no ideology about it whatsoever.

00:20:49.480 And that's the point, isn't it?

00:20:51.080 We want the best for everybody.

00:20:53.200 Conservatives lose arguments because they go in with guns blazing saying, here's what I'm

00:20:58.820 against. 1.00

00:20:59.440 And if you disagree with me, you're stupid and evil. 1.00

00:21:01.520 And here's the problem. 1.00

00:21:02.560 I said this to Stu yesterday.

00:21:04.240 Um, who was it?

00:21:06.740 What was the candidate that said, uh, I think it was Beto that Americans are against the,

00:21:13.160 uh, conservative and Republican agenda.

00:21:17.260 I don't even know what that is.

00:21:18.940 I really don't even know what that is.

00:21:22.080 Uh, there's not that they're not for it.

00:21:25.160 I don't think they know what it is.

00:21:26.800 Yeah.

00:21:27.180 You know, we're against an awful lot of stuff, but who's out there talking about, you know,

00:21:31.940 I, I watch your documentary.

00:21:34.320 I've always thought of, please forgive my ignorance.

00:21:38.060 I was a, I was a dummy up until I hit thirties.

00:21:42.320 I did no, nothing.

00:21:43.920 I was a musician.

00:21:44.820 I was worse than that.

00:21:45.620 No, you at least, you at least could play a horn.

00:21:48.360 Uh, so, uh, uh, but I've always thought of India as a capitalist system and, you know,

00:21:56.520 watching your documentary and I'm like, oh my gosh, no, no, it wasn't.

00:22:01.080 It was the furthest thing from a capitalist free market system.

00:22:04.400 There's a Soviet planned economy until, until the early 1990s.

00:22:08.820 Amazing.

00:22:09.960 That's incredible.

00:22:10.720 And since they've abandoned that, we've seen a massive change.

00:22:14.480 It has one of the highest growth rates in the world.

00:22:16.400 You know, you go to India, growth rates in, in the world and the great growth rates and

00:22:20.880 economic growth rates in the world.

00:22:22.300 Thank you.

00:22:23.400 Incredible.

00:22:23.800 When you go there, you find that 375 million Indians have been pulled out of abject starvation

00:22:30.060 level poverty.

00:22:30.660 And they're among the 2 billion that have been pulled out of poverty because of the free

00:22:34.120 enterprise system, because of the American system of globalization and free trade, property

00:22:38.000 rights, all this stuff that we take for granted, the culture of upward mobility.

00:22:42.020 And the culture of now making something yourself, doing something, starting something small.

00:22:49.580 And now with the tools of the internet, being able to sell it anywhere in the world.

00:22:53.680 I was struck in the documentary of, of, of, it, it almost felt like New York must've felt

00:23:02.820 in 1900.

00:23:04.060 Yeah.

00:23:04.400 That's the point.

00:23:05.100 And it's a point that I make in the film, because if you look at the footage of, of,

00:23:08.480 of, of New York, you say the, you know, the garment industry, for example, the, the,

00:23:13.560 you know, Lori side of Manhattan in 1910, it looks just like slums in India do today. 1.00

00:23:19.140 And people are, are in industry.

00:23:20.920 The truth is that people live a lot better in this, in slums in India than they did in 1.00

00:23:24.060 New York in 1910, because they have healthcare and their kids go to school and they have

00:23:27.360 a lot of possibilities, but it looks the same.

00:23:29.060 And what that brings home to me, and it's controversial to say, but I honestly believe

00:23:32.720 that is that those people living in slums are in, in India, they're us separated by time.

00:23:38.740 And, and, and if we can't, if we can't look at these people around the world and, and,

00:23:43.640 and see our, our, ourselves in them, what's wrong with us?

00:23:47.560 Look, you know, the Beck's were scratching out potatoes in Ireland a few generations ago. 0.99

00:23:52.180 And look at you, they were ambitious riffraff. 0.99

00:23:54.600 That's America.

00:23:56.080 And that's what, what moves me.

00:23:58.000 And that's what we need to spread and change the world with are these ideals.

00:24:01.340 Hans Rosling makes this point in factfulness, which is his first time I ever thought of

00:24:05.700 it the way you just described it.

00:24:07.100 Is it really a time issue?

00:24:08.440 It's, it's not us and them. 0.63

00:24:10.060 It's not first world and third world.

00:24:11.980 These are countries that are coming along at a lot of times accelerated paces than, than what

00:24:16.580 more accelerated paces than what we did, but they are just a little bit behind.

00:24:21.420 All these things are happening.

00:24:22.840 All these incredible improvements in the, in the places that have implemented some basic

00:24:27.960 form of a free market, right?

00:24:29.800 They're seeing those same things.

00:24:30.980 And that's, that's a, that's a glorious miracle.

00:24:33.460 Yeah.

00:24:33.780 You must have capitalism.

00:24:35.640 And since capitalism has started to spread around the world and capitalism gets a bad name

00:24:40.020 because it sort of means everything and nothing.

00:24:41.960 But what we're talking about is the free enterprise system bounded with appropriate regulation and

00:24:46.400 basic human morality has, has alleviated 80% of starvation level of poverty since I was

00:24:52.000 a kid.

00:24:52.760 Most 70% of Americans think that hunger has gotten worse.

00:24:55.820 It's gotten better.

00:24:56.500 80% better.

00:24:57.580 I mean, there's, it's, it's the greatest humanitarian achievement in the history of the human race.

00:25:01.980 And it's happened since Glenn Beck and Arthur Brooks were kids.

00:25:04.920 We got to spread that from the rooftops.

00:25:06.580 And the reason is not just to be done, not just to cry victory.

00:25:09.580 It's because we need the next 2 billion of our brothers and sisters.

00:25:12.600 They're out there and they need us and charity.

00:25:16.000 It's good.

00:25:16.360 Maybe it'll get us to heaven, but you got to have a system that works while you sleep.

00:25:19.340 And we've found it and we can spread it.

00:25:21.580 And we got to fight for it.

00:25:22.720 Not because it's good for business, not because it makes us rich, but because that's what will

00:25:26.940 alleviate suffering will help us to serve others, which we need and which will allow everybody

00:25:32.240 to earn the success, which is the expression of the radical equality of human dignity,

00:25:36.660 which is what we really believe.

00:25:37.760 Arthur Brooks is with us.

00:25:39.400 Why are you going, why are you going away from the American enterprise?

00:25:43.360 And why are you going to Harvard?

00:25:46.300 You know, I've been running AEI for 10 years.

00:25:48.260 When I came in, AEI was started in 1938.

00:25:50.480 It's a really old organization.

00:25:51.600 In the past 10 years, we had phenomenal growth.

00:25:53.960 We've hired tons of people.

00:25:55.300 We've had a big impact and we've stayed in the world of ideas as opposed to getting dragged

00:25:58.800 into politics.

00:25:59.640 I did what I said I was going to do.

00:26:01.380 Um, sort of operationally.

00:26:03.240 And I promised him 10 years.

00:26:04.380 And I know when you stay much more than 10 years in a place like AEI as president of

00:26:07.580 a think tank, it's not the best things don't happen.

00:26:11.400 Part of it is because you start losing energy and it's so it's, and also you get too identified

00:26:15.220 with one person.

00:26:15.940 So I say, you know, I prayed about it for a long time.

00:26:17.760 You know, I prayed for discernment.

00:26:19.120 What am I supposed to do next?

00:26:21.120 And, uh, and, and I was an academic before I taught at Syracuse for a long time and I resigned

00:26:26.240 my position with no net.

00:26:27.540 And I about, I heard from about 10 universities, some other things too.

00:26:31.160 You know, to, and, and a university is a really good thing because it provides an opportunity

00:26:35.800 to do a tremendous amount of creative work.

00:26:37.500 And the, the really incredible thing from Harvard is that Harvard called and said, we want you

00:26:42.220 to come teach here.

00:26:43.160 And I said, why?

00:26:44.380 And they said, because you think differently and we want to shake things up.

00:26:48.480 And I said, that, and I said, for sure.

00:26:51.800 It's great.

00:26:52.200 It's great.

00:26:52.540 Is it going to be, is it going to be resistance to my ideas?

00:26:54.680 I hope so, because that's the opportunity.

00:26:57.060 You know, that's the, the, when you're in the mission field, when you're in the mission

00:27:00.660 field, you don't want to go where everybody's already converted.

00:27:03.360 Exactly right.

00:27:04.160 And, and they're not in the university.

00:27:06.640 And it's a great university.

00:27:07.620 So Arthur, I think is a very aspirational guy and, and I love him and I, I love what

00:27:30.060 he's done with the American air prize Institute.

00:27:31.880 I, I love, love, love, love his new movie.

00:27:35.340 I think he'll make a big impact.

00:27:36.680 I think he'll make a huge impact at Harvard as well.

00:27:39.140 I think he is, um, well, let me put it this way.

00:27:43.460 I hope he's right that we're a million miles away from Stalin, but we are walking towards

00:27:50.780 Stalin, uh, and some are running towards Stalin.

00:27:55.480 Yeah.

00:27:55.640 I mean, we know Stalin's evil.

00:27:57.520 We know that that philosophy is, is evil.

00:28:00.180 And nobody is talking about rounding anybody up.

00:28:02.800 No, but we are talking about silencing people.

00:28:05.720 Again, if, if, if you don't want to get to a destination, it's best not to go down the

00:28:10.320 road that leads to it.

00:28:11.460 So if you're only taking a short drive down the road of socialism, it's scary because I

00:28:18.260 mean, the closer you get to those things, you're increasing government power, which allows

00:28:23.160 the government to overwhelm all of the positives.

00:28:25.620 It is difficult and it's, it's, it's a tough line.

00:28:29.000 That's why I asked him that question.

00:28:30.340 It's a tough line to draw because there are times where, you know, like the, the great

00:28:34.300 that has come out of the free market, the people who oppose it and oftentimes oppose

00:28:38.360 it while I believe willingly lying about it.

00:28:41.520 Um, I mean, it's hard.

00:28:43.700 It might be the right thing to do, but it's a hard thing to do to not just see that as

00:28:48.320 people, you know, it's, it's an activity that is against human achievement, human, uh, prosperity.

00:28:54.360 And it's, and many times it's completely dishonest.

00:28:58.200 It's completely dishonest.

00:29:00.380 Let me give you an example.

00:29:01.900 It was very, very hard for me to hold my temper yesterday.

00:29:07.880 Uh, after I saw what Newsweek and others did, uh, to my words on the program, the news and

00:29:16.520 why it matters as Notre Dame was burning down.

00:29:20.540 As it was burning down, we were receiving tweets that said, Glenn, you predicted this because

00:29:29.140 in 2015, I had said, if you want to see places like Notre Dame, you got to go because you're

00:29:34.740 going to go to Paris and maybe in the next 15 years, and that thing will be burnt to the

00:29:38.820 ground.

00:29:39.080 It'll be gone.

00:29:40.640 Well, I was talking about a threat from Islamic terrorism at the time in 2015.

00:29:46.320 Since then, 2016, there was a threat.

00:29:51.440 Four people were arrested trying to destroy, uh, uh, Notre Dame in that same year, ISIS came

00:29:58.500 out and said that it was their number one target in Europe.

00:30:02.600 And then the next year they, they arrested four people that had a car bomb headed towards

00:30:08.540 Notre Dame.

00:30:09.220 Um, so while this is happening on screen, we're getting emails from people, people on

00:30:16.840 my staff are coming in and going, Glenn, this is exactly what you talked about.

00:30:20.700 And I said off the air, no, no, no, we don't know.

00:30:24.400 You also said that on the air, by the way.

00:30:25.720 Right.

00:30:26.000 I know.

00:30:26.360 But I said it off the air first, then I get on the air.

00:30:28.700 Now I want you to listen carefully and Stu, do me a favor, write down the key things that

00:30:33.920 you hear me say, because I'm going to show you how the media took it and what the media,

00:30:39.780 Washington Post, everybody else, what they did to this, I think, very logical, reasonable

00:30:46.540 conversation.

00:30:47.700 Listen.

00:30:48.340 President Macron has just come out and said, it looks like we may not be able to save it.

00:30:53.520 Uh, just watch the video here.

00:30:55.920 Just a little bit of this.

00:30:59.200 That's the spire.

00:31:00.340 This is their 9-11.

00:31:02.120 Look at the spire fall.

00:31:03.060 That's the spire of Notre Dame.

00:31:06.840 Look at how hot that fire is.

00:31:09.200 Look at the flames, how high those flames are.

00:31:11.460 That is not close to going out at this point.

00:31:13.280 No.

00:31:15.180 We don't know what caused it yet.

00:31:17.380 We know that there was a mass, uh, renovation that was going on.

00:31:23.520 Uh, but that is a pretty remarkable.

00:31:27.500 I mean, this is a, this is a world landmark.

00:31:31.780 Uh, and, uh, and probably next to the Eiffel Tower, the most iconic building in all of France,

00:31:41.160 and more important than the Eiffel Tower.

00:31:44.100 This is the site of the, uh, this is so wildly important to, uh, France as an image.

00:31:59.660 Um, also like really serious archives are held there.

00:32:04.180 I mean, they're going to lose all sorts of, you know, art and archives that they couldn't, you're never going to be able to recreate.

00:32:10.440 I mean, uh, just the, just the, just the, the Rose, um, stained glass window is irreplaceable.

00:32:18.340 Um, if this was arson, uh, this is going to be bad.

00:32:26.320 If this was arson of any foreign, uh, kind of, um, any foreign entity, any, anybody with a grudge, um, I think if, if, and this is a huge if, it might have just been started by a cigarette we don't know.

00:32:44.500 But, um, if this was starting, started by Islamists, I don't think you'll find out about it. 0.52

00:32:51.540 Um, because I think it would set the entire country on fire.

00:32:55.440 They've had killings, they've had mass shootings, they've had people running people down in the streets.

00:33:01.040 The tension is very high.

00:33:03.720 You take away, this would be like us burning, what, our White House?

00:33:07.700 I mean, what, what is, what is iconic like this?

00:33:11.940 World Trade Centers?

00:33:12.500 Yeah, like the World Trade Center.

00:33:14.740 This is their World Trade Center moment.

00:33:17.320 Um, and if this was done by terrorists, uh, I, I think that, uh, they will keep it quiet because I just don't think Macron and France wants that internal fight.

00:33:32.760 Um, if this was done by somebody who was disgruntled with the government, et cetera, like the Yellow Vests. 1.00

00:33:38.860 You know, they did say this weekend that the police can put bullets in their guns and they can shoot to kill the Yellow Vests. 0.99

00:33:46.060 They said that this weekend. 0.88

00:33:47.780 Uh, so maybe it's that, I don't know.

00:33:50.200 But this is a, this is a really big deal.

00:33:52.000 Uh, the world has lost a major, major piece of history today.

00:33:59.120 Okay.

00:34:00.160 What did you take from that, Stu?

00:34:01.440 What did I say?

00:34:02.140 Can you sum that up?

00:34:02.880 Sure.

00:34:03.340 Uh, you said it was there, 9-11.

00:34:04.600 I mean, I think obviously iconic buildings falling was what you were talking about.

00:34:08.160 It's funny because the way the spire fell, what it reminded me of in that moment was the Saddam Hussein statue falling. 0.50

00:34:15.060 And at no point did I think there was an, uh, an invading force that was trying to liberate Notre Dame, right?

00:34:21.000 Like that's just not what I thought.

00:34:22.860 So, I mean, you know, I thought with the smoke and the way it collapsed and not, not just the way it collapsed.

00:34:28.480 Being in a huge, iconic building.

00:34:30.400 Yeah.

00:34:30.920 This is, you know, our image of financial impenetrable stability was taken down because it's Wall Street.

00:34:43.600 It's New York.

00:34:44.360 It's these gigantic, immovable towers.

00:34:48.940 Okay.

00:34:49.240 It didn't have the importance.

00:34:51.280 Those were buildings.

00:34:52.180 It didn't have the importance of Notre Dame.

00:34:53.980 But it had the, in some ways, Wall Street has the soul of the capitalist nation.

00:35:00.440 Yeah.

00:35:00.680 And that's why they targeted it.

00:35:01.540 That's why they targeted it.

00:35:02.900 So the same thing, when I'm saying this, this, I keep saying it's the heart of France.

00:35:08.560 You know, that's an iconic building.

00:35:10.260 It's more important than the Eiffel Tower to the French. 0.91

00:35:13.680 That strikes to their soul of who they are.

00:35:18.360 You don't just wipe that off the map.

00:35:20.440 And so what I was saying with 9-11, it's their 9-11. 0.93

00:35:24.340 They have been just sucker punched in the gut.

00:35:29.180 Now, remember, our 9-11, we didn't know who did it.

00:35:33.820 We didn't know who was.

00:35:34.400 Not on 9-11.

00:35:34.920 We had no idea.

00:35:36.020 We had absolutely no idea who did this to us.

00:35:40.560 On 9-11, we were freaked out.

00:35:42.740 On 9-12, which was there yesterday, okay, what did they do?

00:35:47.840 They started raising money.

00:35:49.000 They started coming together.

00:35:50.300 France has never been more united.

00:35:52.720 That's their 9-12.

00:35:55.920 Now, if they find out that somebody did this, they will respond as we did.

00:36:01.480 But it looks like, and I said, you know, it's amazing.

00:36:04.800 Did you catch?

00:36:06.100 If it's arson, it's bad.

00:36:08.320 If it's arson from a foreign entity, it's worse. 1.00

00:36:14.440 If it's arson from terror, even worse.

00:36:19.140 We know it could be, they say now it could be a cigarette.

00:36:22.860 So if it's a cigarette, but a huge if is if it's Islamic terrorists, you won't hear about it. 0.63

00:36:31.100 Yeah, I mean, that's all the stuff that I wrote down, basically.

00:36:34.140 I mean, the fact that the first thing that you mentioned as a possible cause was a mass renovation, period.

00:36:38.860 That was the first thing you talked about, number one.

00:36:41.400 And that was about where we were on the reporting.

00:36:43.040 We didn't know what the case was at that point.

00:36:45.720 And in addition to that, they the one thing that was suggested as a possibility was the mass renovation.

00:36:52.960 Now, of course, if you had come out, let's just say you had come out and said, hey, guys, you know what happened was I'm I believe this was Islamists. 0.70

00:37:00.880 This is they they did this.

00:37:02.120 This is this is them.

00:37:03.300 You would have been wrong.

00:37:05.520 OK, in this particular case.

00:37:07.720 However, as you point out, they have done this.

00:37:11.420 They have attacked this exact building multiple times in the past couple of years.

00:37:15.900 It was the number one target of ISIS in Europe.

00:37:18.820 So it would not have been insane to think that was true, though.

00:37:22.540 You didn't think of it as the number one possibility.

00:37:24.500 You said it was mass renovation was the number one possibility.

00:37:26.740 You said it could have been a cigarette.

00:37:27.920 You could have said it could have been the yellow vests, which is, you know, again, none of that ever gets mentioned in any of the tweets about it.

00:37:35.820 No, of course not.

00:37:36.360 Because there's a line there.

00:37:37.640 There's there's a line about when you're doing a show like this and you're you know, we're talking off the top of our show.

00:37:41.420 Our heads for four hours a day.

00:37:42.560 There's there's two lines.

00:37:43.660 There's one where you could actually say something wrong.

00:37:46.380 You can legitimately say something that you screwed up and you're going to get a beating for it.

00:37:50.220 And you understand that it's happened with you.

00:37:52.160 You said things where you're like, I wish I said that another way.

00:37:54.680 And you take the beating and you're like, this is what I meant.

00:37:56.760 But, you know, you know, you're on the wrong side of it or you can understand how I don't take a word of that back.

00:38:00.760 I think all of that was very clear.

00:38:03.140 The other standard, which is the standard applied on social media and by, you know, left wing organizations that are whose sad lives are filled with listening to your programs over and over again to try to find something they can use against you is is different.

00:38:16.160 It's it's can did we say something that someone can act as if they believe was bad?

00:38:23.560 Can they act as if they believe what you meant was terrible?

00:38:28.240 Like I know, you know, doing the show with you, you said you talked about I don't think if it's Islamic extremists, you might not even find out about it because.

00:38:38.640 Now, why did I say that?

00:38:39.540 Right. Exactly. The reason you said that and you explained it, of course, was that you there's so much internal strife there right now that if something came out about that, it could cause a real inflammation of the whole society.

00:38:51.020 A lot of it against Muslims, by the way.

00:38:53.080 Right. And did I attach a good thing or a bad thing to that?

00:38:57.100 How do you not finding out? Did I say that was good that you wouldn't find out or bad that you would find out that you wouldn't find out?

00:39:02.640 You were kind of saying it was good.

00:39:03.740 Yeah, I was saying it will cause massive problems.

00:39:08.740 Right.

00:39:08.940 And I don't think anybody in France wants that.

00:39:11.500 And I don't want that.

00:39:12.540 That could be that could be the catalyst that sets it on fire.

00:39:16.680 So before Newsweek and everybody I was trending nationally yesterday.

00:39:21.780 OK, with lies, absolute lies.

00:39:26.200 Before that, I had Jason on our chief researcher who I had put up and said, stay up all night.

00:39:32.860 I want you to find out everything you can look for the conspiracy theory so we can debunk them right away.

00:39:38.720 Find out what you can talk about it on the air.

00:39:41.840 We started the show with that.

00:39:43.900 Then yesterday I said, this may be a blessing because it takes that iconic thing away, which would absolutely start a religious war. 0.86

00:39:55.720 It would absolutely start it if this was ISIS. 0.85

00:39:59.420 And it takes that off of the plate.

00:40:03.100 So it can't be used.

00:40:05.100 But I think how how how well instead what they say is when you say, well, you might not find out about it.

00:40:11.840 What they again, I don't they don't believe this, but what they're trying to make their I was going to say Arthur Brooks is in my head.

00:40:18.740 So I'm not going to say dumb people who visit their websites, but the people who visit their websites, what they're trying to make them believe is that what you're saying is if you hear it's construction, they're lying, which is not at all what you were saying.

00:40:30.560 No, you did not say that at all.

00:40:32.340 You never said that publicly.

00:40:33.520 You never said that privately.

00:40:34.520 That is not what you were saying.

00:40:36.440 No, you were saying something completely different, which you just explained.

00:40:39.860 But again, the the goal of these organizations is not to find an example of you saying something wrong.

00:40:47.660 It's something that they is something that they can plausibly act like they believe was wrong.

00:40:52.940 They can go on.

00:40:54.300 They can say they do this all the time.

00:40:56.460 You take a statement and you act as if, well, that is their entire viewpoint on this. 0.92

00:41:01.820 And I can make them look dumb if I tweet this and act like I don't think they know anything else about the topic.

00:41:05.920 Right. 0.70

00:41:06.320 That's a terrible instinct that I think gets drawn out of social media and click farms and click bait farms.

00:41:11.440 But I mean, it is these organizations are out there specifically to do this.

00:41:14.660 And, you know, as Arthur pointed out, some of that is a blessing.

00:41:18.420 Like, you know, we could easily just be ignored for every everything that we say.

00:41:21.980 The fact that these people are up all night obsessing over you and listening to every word that you say.

00:41:26.840 So is, you know, generally speaking, at least they're, you know, people care.

00:41:30.660 So here's, I guess, you're making an impact.

00:41:33.120 Here's the thing.

00:41:34.100 I had an employee who is a good friend and I love him.

00:41:37.000 And he's worked here now for six months and he is just great.

00:41:41.400 He came to me yesterday and said, hey, I have to talk to you about this.

00:41:45.340 I really strongly disagree because he read it in The Hill and Politico.

00:41:49.600 And he believed them over the guy who he, I passed his desk twice yesterday.

00:41:55.080 Well, it wasn't over you.

00:41:56.200 He had not heard your side of it.

00:41:57.620 But he, you know, he assumed they were reporting it accurately.

00:41:59.860 He assumed they were reporting it.

00:42:01.180 So instead of coming to me and saying, Glenn, this doesn't sound like you.

00:42:05.740 Did you really say this?

00:42:06.940 Instead, he believed the media.

00:42:09.640 He works here.

00:42:11.740 That's the problem.

00:42:12.800 If, if you are, if you were in a place to where you'll believe the media, who we all are supposedly to distrust, if you believe them over people who you know, there's a problem.

00:42:26.960 How does, how does anyone stand a chance?

00:42:29.780 How does anyone stand a chance? 1.00

00:42:31.480 Don't buy in to the bull crap. 0.99

00:42:35.840 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. 0.99

00:42:40.880 Hi, it's Glenn.

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00:42:51.420 If you're not a subscriber, become one today and listen on your own time.

00:42:55.520 You can subscribe on iTunes.

00:42:57.120 Thanks.

00:42:57.580 I was going to do Choose Your News, but Andrew Heaton just walked in.

00:43:01.700 The host of the podcast, something's off with Andrew Heaton and something is very off with Andrew Heaton.

00:43:05.760 I don't know how much longer his show is going to last.

00:43:07.320 Maybe, maybe today might be the last episode.

00:43:09.900 Not sure.

00:43:11.080 Looking forward to having Arthur Brooks on then.

00:43:12.800 How are you doing?

00:43:14.640 Good.

00:43:14.920 How are you?

00:43:15.280 Good morning.

00:43:15.760 Oh, yeah.

00:43:16.160 I'm doing good.

00:43:16.820 You brought in...

00:43:18.020 I brought in donuts.

00:43:19.500 I had something of an awkward day yesterday.

00:43:22.660 Yeah.

00:43:23.000 You're very sweaty right now, too.

00:43:24.860 I'm very sweaty right now.

00:43:26.220 Yeah.

00:43:26.400 Well, that might just be the amount of...

00:43:28.420 Yeah, I'm just...

00:43:28.980 I'm sweaty.

00:43:29.460 That's a lot of layers.

00:43:30.620 I am wearing a lot of layers, though.

00:43:31.640 Yeah.

00:43:31.980 Yeah.

00:43:32.300 Yeah.

00:43:32.460 Yeah.

00:43:32.700 It's 65 degrees in here.

00:43:33.940 But anyway, go ahead.

00:43:35.180 Yeah.

00:43:35.660 Well, you know, yesterday we did the panel show, The News and Why It Matters.

00:43:38.500 And I had kind of jumped to some conclusions on some of your positions, Glenn.

00:43:45.240 Yeah.

00:43:45.680 And fortunately brought it up before the show, before I jumped into my monologue.

00:43:52.340 Right.

00:43:53.320 Give me your monologue.

00:43:54.200 Give me the monologue you were going to do.

00:43:55.500 I won't do that.

00:43:57.820 Why not?

00:43:58.940 Well, I didn't let it down.

00:44:00.420 Look, you know that I am not angry with you.

00:44:01.960 You know that this is all, you know, this is showbiz joking here.

00:44:05.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:05.840 But the donuts were a good move.

00:44:07.100 It was a very good move.

00:44:08.160 Thank you.

00:44:08.540 Well, so to fill out what happened, I had read a headline that said that you were implying

00:44:16.620 that Islamists burned down Notre Dame and that the French government was suppressing that

00:44:21.760 information and that that was their 9-11.

00:44:24.120 And it was sort of a flashpoint between East and West.

00:44:26.360 And I was going to come in and be like, you know, this is irresponsible and it's conspiracy

00:44:30.520 theorizing and it's demonizing Muslims.

00:44:33.300 And what did you imagine I would have said?

00:44:37.420 I don't know.

00:44:38.160 I wasn't really sure.

00:44:39.700 You know why?

00:44:40.960 Because doesn't that seem a little out of character for me?

00:44:45.060 It does.

00:44:45.620 It does.

00:44:46.620 It does.

00:44:47.400 It does.

00:44:47.780 It does.

00:44:48.220 I think, you know what?

00:44:48.740 What I could have done is I could have gone, hey, Glenn, I read this interesting headline.

00:44:53.800 What's your take on this?

00:44:55.120 I avoided a lot of issues yesterday.

00:44:58.120 A lot of that.

00:44:58.700 So why?

00:45:00.060 And I'm not talking about you because I think this happens all the time.

00:45:03.800 All the time.

00:45:04.880 If you read it, it is so.

00:45:07.500 So what was it that made you go, this doesn't make any sense.

00:45:14.140 That's not the Glenn I know.

00:45:17.480 I'm going to go on the air and tear him apart.

00:45:21.380 What? 0.86

00:45:21.860 What was it?

00:45:22.740 What?

00:45:23.380 Why did that happen?

00:45:24.900 I'm seriously looking for an answer because I think this happens to a lot of people.

00:45:28.000 You know, part of it is if I'd gone to like rightwingwatch.com slash Glenn, then I would

00:45:38.440 have dismissed it.

00:45:39.400 But the story I was looking at, it was a headline that I saw from The Hill.

00:45:42.700 I did read the paper or read the story.

00:45:44.800 And I just kind of, I thought The Hill liked that they would have, you know, done a little

00:45:48.640 bit more.

00:45:49.440 They would have packed it properly.

00:45:51.260 They would have unpacked it properly.

00:45:52.700 Well, because I mean, it wasn't just The Hill.

00:45:54.200 It was lots of different.

00:45:55.080 Because you have this first organization that comes out and lies about what you said.

00:46:00.620 And then dozens of other publications start reporting on the initial report without doing

00:46:05.340 any homework.

00:46:05.980 I mean, like, you know, it's one thing.

00:46:07.320 It's hard.

00:46:07.980 You get a source and a news story.

00:46:10.140 You got to track them down.

00:46:11.380 Maybe their house just burned down.

00:46:12.820 You got to find them.

00:46:13.600 You got to find out where they are.

00:46:14.680 You got to check all these different things.

00:46:16.700 Glenn does a national radio and television show every day.

00:46:19.880 So all the things that he says are always available, right?

00:46:22.500 And it's relatively easy for a reporter reporting on a particular story to go do this.

00:46:26.480 And reporters know how to contact my people.

00:46:29.200 That's strange.

00:46:30.040 Yeah.

00:46:30.320 That's strange.

00:46:30.800 It's not like some, I don't know, do we have a Ouija board?

00:46:34.200 How can we possibly get a statement from Glenn or Glenn's people?

00:46:38.720 No one reaches out.

00:46:39.960 But you're right.

00:46:40.380 No one reaches out.

00:46:41.040 If you're going to.

00:46:41.740 And I, you know, we've done enough shows with Andrew.

00:46:44.480 And I know he would have not come on and trashed you over this.

00:46:47.920 He would have wanted to hear what your explanation was over it.

00:46:51.060 But, I mean, if you're a publication going out there and trashing Glenn over this,

00:46:55.600 you have an absolute responsibility to make sure you understand what he said correctly.

00:47:00.620 You've got to take it.

00:47:01.500 Or, here's an idea.

00:47:02.540 Correct it.

00:47:03.260 Anybody seen a correction?

00:47:04.520 No, I've not seen.

00:47:05.400 No.

00:47:05.920 Not seen a correction.

00:47:07.420 And that's the thing.

00:47:08.020 Like, you're right.

00:47:08.440 Like, rightwingwatch.deathofbeck.net is not going to ever correct it.

00:47:13.540 But there are, you know, publications out there that should at least, they should protect

00:47:18.660 whatever credibility they have to not just speak to a hard left-wing audience, right?

00:47:23.980 And this is why there is no credibility.

00:47:26.480 It's hard.

00:47:27.020 I mean, it's hard when, you know, we'll come on and we'll say, sometimes there'll be something

00:47:29.840 that the right is getting wrong, right?

00:47:32.220 And we'll come on the air and say, look, you know, we've looked at this and here's what

00:47:35.700 we believe is right.

00:47:36.460 I think the conservative side of this has actually made a mistake here.

00:47:39.780 Here's source A, B, C on this.

00:47:41.600 And they'll just hear the names.

00:47:43.320 You know, it's the New York Times.

00:47:44.380 It's the Hill.

00:47:45.080 It's whatever it is.

00:47:46.340 And so, a lot of these places have burned their credibility with the right so consistently

00:47:50.520 that they won't even listen when they actually have facts correct.

00:47:55.140 You know, it's just like, oh, well, that's the New York Times.

00:47:56.560 Of course, that's what they're saying.

00:47:57.540 Well, you know, look, the New York Times makes lots of mistakes. 0.86

00:47:59.600 And in their op-ed section, they're completely insane.

00:48:02.640 But they also, I mean, a lot of the information that we bring to you about, you know, Islamic

00:48:07.180 extremism over the years has been because of reporting from the New York Times.

00:48:10.720 Yeah.

00:48:10.960 I mean, they've done a lot of good things, too.

00:48:12.220 You have to judge story to story, writer by writer.

00:48:17.560 And a way to summarize this is maybe do your own homework.

00:48:19.680 Facts.

00:48:20.140 Yes.

00:48:20.580 Do your own homework.

00:48:20.880 That's why you always plead with people on this.

00:48:22.680 So, why the donuts today?

00:48:24.580 I just wanted to kind of bring them in and, you know, kick off a new Wednesday.

00:48:30.540 A little bit of sugar.

00:48:32.420 Right.

00:48:33.220 Right.

00:48:33.500 Now, it's interesting, you didn't pick carrots for Glenn.

00:48:36.280 I noticed you picked baked goods and glazed sugar.

00:48:39.160 What was the decision-making process there?

00:48:40.760 Well, as you know, I'm secretly trying to murder Glenn.

00:48:43.320 Okay. 0.70

00:48:44.840 And I thought this will just be a way to slowly do it.

00:48:47.540 All right.

00:48:48.020 Well, so we got that going for us.

00:48:50.120 How's the show going?

00:48:51.260 Good.

00:48:51.660 I'm really enjoying it.

00:48:52.480 Really?

00:48:52.780 It's good.

00:48:53.140 We've got Arthur Brooks on today, which I'm really excited about.

00:48:55.620 Or actually, I'm sorry, Arthur Brooks is going to be on tomorrow.

00:48:57.640 We've got Deanna Easley on today. 1.00

00:48:59.980 Who's Deanna Easley? 1.00

00:49:00.760 So she's here in Dallas, and we're going to talk about welfare, and I have a chat on that.

00:49:07.480 Tomorrow, we're going to talk about Arthur Brooks' book, And Capitalism, which I'm excited about

00:49:12.500 because the main thing on the show that I do is a temperamental thing of good and intelligent

00:49:17.760 people can disagree on matters of substance.

00:49:19.520 And I feel like Arthur Brooks has exonified that in his book.

00:49:23.040 Yeah.

00:49:23.220 So I'm excited to have him on.

00:49:24.780 The show this week is brought to you by Meat Bullets.

00:49:27.540 Meat Bullets?

00:49:28.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:28.580 It's one of the better sponsors, I think.

00:49:30.120 Really?

00:49:30.960 It's high-velocity meat that you can use as a weapon.

00:49:34.700 And if you need to deliver meat, you're hurting people with this meat?

00:49:37.600 I mean, I wouldn't advise you to do it, but if you were going to, yes.

00:49:41.100 But if you shot it right into somebody's...

00:49:44.260 Don't do that.

00:49:45.500 Oh, yeah.

00:49:46.140 Well, let's say that they're anemic or something like that, and they really need protein.

00:49:51.600 I mean, like, if you shot them in the thigh, I think, like, in the state of Texas, you're 0.87

00:49:55.080 probably okay. 0.84

00:49:55.820 But I would be very careful about doing it in general.

00:49:58.460 So is it delivering, you know, nutrition from a distance?

00:50:02.760 Is that the basic concept of meat bullets?

00:50:04.940 I don't understand what's not clear about this, guys.

00:50:07.440 It's not a weapon of war.

00:50:08.540 It's not a weapon of war.

00:50:10.680 No, it's just high-velocity meat.

00:50:12.800 It is dangerous, but it's high-velocity meat.

00:50:15.000 All right, good.

00:50:15.720 All right.

00:50:16.180 Thank you very much.

00:50:16.980 There you go.

00:50:18.680 That's something's off with Andrew Heaton.

00:50:22.640 Why did we name it that?

00:50:23.580 I don't...

00:50:24.060 I have no idea.

00:50:25.640 No idea.

00:50:26.240 Coming up on the podcast today, you can find him wherever podcasts are found.

00:50:31.260 Thanks, Andrew.

00:50:32.160 Get out.

00:50:33.880 Now, let me tell you about...

00:50:35.220 I get one of those donuts.

00:50:36.420 Yeah, here.

00:50:36.820 They look really freaking good.

00:50:37.920 They do.

00:50:38.420 Are those Krispy Kremes?

00:50:39.540 They're Krispy Kremes, but they're not...

00:50:41.340 No, they're not Krispy Kremes.

00:50:42.320 They look like it.

00:50:43.040 No, they're even better.

00:50:43.960 They're even better.

00:50:44.600 Oh, they're even better.

00:50:45.220 He went to the generic donut store, didn't he?

00:50:47.400 Generic donut store.

00:50:48.560 That's all right.

00:50:49.200 They're donuts.

00:50:49.700 All right.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 17, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Tim Ballard, Arthur Brooks & Andrew Heaton ｜ 4⧸17⧸19

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