The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Tom Fitton & Christopher Rufo ｜ 9⧸15⧸20

00:00:00.000 Well, I'd like to call this podcast today

00:00:03.660 The Big Trouble at Home.

00:00:07.840 And I have my good friend Pat to thank for that.

00:00:11.120 Well, I mean, just trying to share happy news with your wife.

00:00:15.220 So sue me for that.

00:00:16.660 Trying to share happy news.

00:00:17.900 Guilty as charged.

00:00:18.620 Oh my God.

00:00:19.620 Guilty as charged.

00:00:21.000 You need to go to work for the DNC.

00:00:24.220 Or any media outlet.

00:00:26.480 Yeah, thanks for that help.

00:00:28.460 I'm in for a day of hell with my wife 1.00

00:00:31.100 because of what happened on today's program.

00:00:33.460 And you will probably hear that unfold.

00:00:37.840 Oh, she was all nice about it.

00:00:39.480 But I'm telling you, I'm afraid to go home.

00:00:41.540 In front of company, she was nice about it.

00:00:43.540 Yeah.

00:00:43.900 Yeah.

00:00:44.300 Thank you.

00:00:45.740 We have a great show for you.

00:00:47.240 We talk about what's happening at the CDC.

00:00:51.860 Big breaking news.

00:00:53.220 We are in a constitutional crisis right now.

00:00:55.820 The CDC decided that they were just going to disobey the executive order from the president

00:01:00.980 and just run, not one, but 13 weeks of critical race theory training at the CDC.

00:01:10.560 Even though last week the president said executive order, full stop on all of that.

00:01:15.980 They said it was a health crisis and they knew better than the president.

00:01:19.220 That's a constitutional crisis.

00:01:20.680 Wow.

00:01:20.820 Who do they work for?

00:01:22.000 They're not elected.

00:01:23.080 Who are they working for?

00:01:25.020 We'll tell you about that.

00:01:26.360 Also, we have Tom Fitton on from Judicial Watch.

00:01:30.200 He also talks a little bit about that in a different sense with a different department.

00:01:35.840 This time, the Department of Justice.

00:01:37.360 All this and more on today's podcast.

00:01:39.240 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:53.960 Tom, welcome to the program.

00:01:55.520 Hey, Glenn.

00:01:56.100 Thank you.

00:01:56.620 We don't do Pfizer's yet, although who knows?

00:01:59.040 Yeah.

00:02:00.600 Depends on who's in office.

00:02:02.440 Maybe you will.

00:02:04.420 I want to talk to you about several things.

00:02:07.120 First of all, act blue.

00:02:08.520 Are you following act blue at all?

00:02:13.180 We have been.

00:02:14.620 Certainly, their fundraising for Black Lives Matter Global Foundation has been of interest to us.

00:02:20.680 Act blue is a conglomerate of organizations.

00:02:23.320 They do the political fundraising for campaigns and candidates.

00:02:27.360 And as you pointed out there, that PAC activity.

00:02:29.960 But separately, they raise money through this charitable arm that then gets funneled to another third party, which is running Black Lives Matter as a fiscal sponsor.

00:02:42.120 So if you want to give money to Black Lives Matter, you can't.

00:02:45.600 You give it to act blue that has, I guess, a pinky promise with this tide center, which is a far left group that is acting as a fiscal sponsor for Black Lives Matter.

00:02:55.520 You can't give a donation to Black Lives Matter and have it be tax deductible.

00:03:00.740 It's an unusual set of circumstances that if a similarly situated, well-known conservative group was involved in, that'd be called for investigation.

00:03:09.820 Oh, my gosh.

00:03:10.340 And there should be investigations on either side that would do something as slimy as this.

00:03:15.120 Act blue, I think the latest document that I saw, shows that about 7% of what goes into act blue actually goes to Black Lives Matter.

00:03:24.540 So where's the rest of it going?

00:03:26.660 Where's the rest of it going?

00:03:27.520 I don't know.

00:03:27.980 You know, I've never seen anything like this.

00:03:31.640 I've been involved in nonprofit work for 20-plus years, and the idea of a fiscal sponsorship, that's something the left has been doing, though, when you think about it.

00:03:42.720 Remember ACORN?

00:03:43.960 Yeah.

00:03:45.240 They kind of operated the same way.

00:03:47.200 They had all these allegedly independent groups that were run by one central organization.

00:03:53.000 In this case, it's the Tide Center, which is the incubator for the far left and their organizations.

00:03:59.820 Yeah.

00:03:59.920 I did a lot of work on the Tides Foundation and called many, many names.

00:04:04.540 Nobody did anything about it.

00:04:06.200 And now look at the juggernaut that they are.

00:04:10.160 Any comment on, you know, $200 million plus being gathered from donations from homeless people or people that don't have a job?

00:04:22.260 That's an awful lot of money, isn't it, Tom?

00:04:25.120 It is a lot of money.

00:04:26.400 And, again, the area of political fundraising, they report what they report.

00:04:32.300 And unless someone's willing to get behind the numbers and get behind the self-reporting, this is going to go on not only with ActBlue but everyone else.

00:04:44.060 And ActBlue suggests that the reason that they have all these unemployed people is because they're homemakers or they're wealthy and they don't need to report anything other than being unemployed or self-employed. 0.82

00:04:56.740 But, you know, it highlights the fact that a lot of money sloshes around our political system.

00:05:04.320 And despite all these laws for transparency, which I really don't put much faith in anyway, both on principle and in practical and practical issues, practically speaking, it's hard to track where all the money's coming from.

00:05:19.440 And so all this concern about foreign funding, you know, there are a lot of easy ways for foreign nationals to participate in our election system without getting caught in an improper way.

00:05:29.860 All right, let me change the subject.

00:05:31.700 There is a story that I read, well-documented, well-sourced, and I am not seeing it anywhere, that the actual whistleblower during the impeachment was Vindman himself.

00:05:47.540 Lieutenant Colonel Vindman was the guy who was on the phone call, was disturbed, as in his own words, because it was going against a policy that he agreed with and had worked hard on and wanted to see pursued.

00:06:04.460 And he went and talked to Schiff, if I understand this right, he couldn't be the whistleblower because he was on the phone call, so they needed another guy.

00:06:16.340 And he went and told someone about it and said, blow the whistle, go to Schiff, go to these people, and blow the whistle.

00:06:25.820 Do I have that right?

00:06:28.160 I think it's close enough.

00:06:30.220 It became pretty clear during the impeachment hearings themselves when he was questioned on it that Vindman had talked to the alleged whistleblower that Schiff colluded with improperly, in my view.

00:06:43.000 You know, and my concern has always been that, you know, just because someone else has a national security clearance, it doesn't mean you can tell them everything, anything you want, if it's classified.

00:06:56.980 They have to have a need to know.

00:06:58.220 And if he was improperly sharing the contents of that classified call, A, with his brother, or B, with his buddy over at the CIA, evidently, that was the actual whistleblower, who had worked previously in the White House, both under Obama and Trump, that would have been inappropriate.

00:07:15.660 And I've always been highlighting the need that Vindman should be criminally investigated, the whistleblower should be criminally investigated, and to the degree Schiff was involved in the sharing and properly classified information in his staff, that criminal investigation should extend into the House.

00:07:32.540 So, here's my frustration.

00:07:35.840 A lot of this stuff, Tom, we've had for months now.

00:07:39.500 We've known a lot of really damning stuff, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

00:07:46.340 And if it is, it's going to happen during the election, and then what happens after that?

00:07:51.740 Yeah, the Justice Department has been asleep at the switch on virtually every major corruption issue here.

00:08:00.680 And Durham was appointed, for instance, in April of last year, and it's now, what, 17, 18 months later?

00:08:07.580 I could use my fingers to count.

00:08:09.280 Now, we've had one plea agreement that was kind of half-baked.

00:08:14.960 It was handed to him on a silver platter by the IG late last year.

00:08:19.960 Nothing else.

00:08:20.900 No report.

00:08:22.380 Maybe someone's being targeted.

00:08:23.860 Maybe Strzok gets indicted.

00:08:24.960 I don't know.

00:08:25.460 But in many ways, it's too late.

00:08:27.380 If he does it now, politically, it's going to cause a maelstrom, which is unnecessary.

00:08:32.840 And then, B, as you point out, after the election, depending on who wins, it either wins or dies.

00:08:39.260 So what happens?

00:08:40.800 I mean, we have a horribly corrupt system that I wouldn't want a Democrat or a Republican to have to go through.

00:08:50.700 I don't care who it is, but we have seen now a deep state.

00:08:56.000 We're seeing it with the CDC.

00:08:57.420 The CDC, yesterday, we found out, is going forward with their critical race theory education,

00:09:07.720 even though the president has signed a directive that no one in the administration,

00:09:13.740 no one in our government is supposed to be holding those things.

00:09:17.540 They just thumb their nose up.

00:09:18.920 I mean, we have a constitutional crisis because there's no one that is answering for any of these things.

00:09:28.620 Who's in charge?

00:09:30.440 That's right.

00:09:31.080 I've been highlighting the crisis.

00:09:33.080 The problem we have is we don't even have self-government anymore.

00:09:36.520 You know, is it consent of the government when we elect Congress and they don't do anything

00:09:40.000 and just write checks and then keep their eyes closed the rest of the time?

00:09:43.760 No.

00:09:44.300 The agencies don't think they're accountable to either the president or the American people.

00:09:48.920 And depending on who's the president, the president doesn't act like he's accountable.

00:09:52.160 We saw that with President Obama.

00:09:54.100 And in terms of the CDC and these other agencies, there's this casual sedition that goes on.

00:10:00.300 It's really quite dramatic.

00:10:02.580 And it's happening virtually every day.

00:10:04.900 I'm sure the president's frustrated by it.

00:10:06.940 But if I were him in terms of, like, the Obamagate and all the corruption, I would just go declare a transparency emergency.

00:10:15.520 Tell the agencies, release everything you have.

00:10:20.120 Stop with the stonewalling. 1.00

00:10:21.880 For instance, we just got the documents about the wiped phones by Mueller's team, 2731, however you count it.

00:10:29.800 I don't know if you've been able to wipe your own phones, but I've never figured out how that could be.

00:10:34.660 No, I don't know how to do that.

00:10:37.060 Yeah.

00:10:37.660 DOJ's had the document for a year.

00:10:41.580 A year.

00:10:42.220 We actually first asked for the information back in December or the end of 2018.

00:10:50.080 We sued a year ago.

00:10:52.920 So let's say the clock began then.

00:10:54.840 Let's be generous.

00:10:55.940 They sat on it for a year.

00:10:57.660 They are still hiding struck page documents.

00:11:00.140 They are still hiding text messages.

00:11:02.540 We just sued for Fauci emails.

00:11:05.080 I don't know.

00:11:05.700 It's not necessarily because Fauci did anything wrong.

00:11:08.440 And we wanted to know CDC communications with WHO in China in the early days of the virus to see what the lies were that we were being told.

00:11:17.620 They're telling us they can't get to them until only at a rate of 500 pages a month, which means 8,000 pages will be reviewed.

00:11:26.780 And that means we won't be getting them until, do the math, 2022.

00:11:32.940 What's happening?

00:11:34.280 What's happening to us?

00:11:35.240 Contempt for the rule of law.

00:11:36.100 It's a contempt for the rule of law within the agencies.

00:11:39.180 And the president's appointees don't give a rat's tail about this transparency.

00:11:44.560 They don't.

00:11:45.600 And it's resulting in, as you point out, a rule of law crisis.

00:11:50.200 So what is going to happen?

00:11:52.320 We can't continue as a nation.

00:11:55.420 We have no trust in anything.

00:11:57.960 We see people getting away with it.

00:12:00.000 We I see reports FBI is looking into the funding of Black Lives Matter and Antifa and these protests.

00:12:08.200 Guys, it's not that hard.

00:12:10.020 It's not that hard.

00:12:11.200 And it feels like we're looking and looking and looking and then nothing happens.

00:12:15.080 What happens when is I mean, how do we survive, Tom, if nothing is done?

00:12:21.480 Well, it's a challenge.

00:12:24.260 And I say that judicial watch is one way forward.

00:12:29.780 We kind of keep the government.

00:12:31.260 It seems like it's completely out of control, but we bring it back down to earth using the rule of law and the accountability of free information, the Freedom of Information Act.

00:12:39.240 So there's an ability to petition the government under our Constitution that we have to exercise more forcefully and more regularly.

00:12:48.660 The left is quite adept at getting information out to destroy their political opponents from the government.

00:12:57.040 Here we want to figure out about the corruption of the government and judicial watch is often alone and pushing for it.

00:13:03.240 Congress has got to reform and restore itself, and certainly the agencies have got to be curtailed and cut back because the abuses will increase and metastasize the bigger and bigger government gets.

00:13:15.760 In my view, it's taking a 50,000 foot view, big government, big secrecy, big corruption, big oppression.

00:13:24.360 They all go hand in hand and you've got to pull it all back.

00:13:28.880 You've got to curtail the government, ensure transparency, reform and restore the Congress, and have a president and cabinet agency heads who take this seriously.

00:13:39.560 In my view, IGs are like a waste of time if the cabinet agency heads are doing their jobs.

00:13:48.340 That's what they should be doing.

00:13:50.080 The heads of the agencies should be the IGs.

00:13:54.640 Well, I don't know if I trust that.

00:13:57.360 I'd like as many eyes checking on these guys as possible.

00:14:00.940 Yeah, I hear you.

00:14:01.980 But the IGs are a creature of the deep state and are experienced used to both suppress information and target whistleblowers.

00:14:09.740 That's what they are.

00:14:10.680 Remember, they weren't put in there by the good guys.

00:14:12.920 They were put in there by the radical left who thought they needed to control the, quote, presidency to keep the bureaucracies free to do what they wanted to do.

00:14:22.220 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:14:30.560 All right, so a new face, at least on the national scale, that I am aware of, a guy who has been doing amazing work in the last few months and needs to be known by every freedom-loving person.

00:14:51.860 His name is Christopher Ruffo.

00:14:54.320 He is a filmmaker, a writer, a policy researcher.

00:14:57.700 He has directed four films for PBS, including his latest America Lost, that told the story of the three forgotten American cities.

00:15:06.560 He is also the director of the Discovery Institute Center on Wealth, Poverty, and Morality, and a contributing editor at the City Journal, where he covers poverty, homelessness, addiction, crime, and other afflictions.

00:15:17.860 He's a really smart guy and relentless, and people are starting to go to him now and say, I've got documents, and he is posting them online, and what he posted yesterday should chill all of us to the bones.

00:15:36.540 Christopher, welcome to the program.

00:15:37.680 How are you?

00:15:38.840 Very good.

00:15:39.500 Good to be with you.

00:15:40.440 So tell me what you dumped yesterday.

00:15:43.740 Yeah, yesterday was a big day because, as many of your listeners know, the president passed this executive order abolishing critical race theory trainings from all federal agencies.

00:15:55.240 But unfortunately, the CDC, operating in direct violation of this order, announced to their employees that they were moving forward with a very kind of inflammatory critical race theory training that spanned 13 weeks.

00:16:10.760 I was able to obtain documents from inside the CDC, as well as an external PowerPoint that gives more content of the presentation.

00:16:19.920 The content was truly horrific.

00:16:21.720 It's talking about trying to destroy the system of meritocracy, trying to destroy the idea of American exceptionalism, and trying to weaponize the CDC to fight white supremacy.

00:16:32.060 But even more horrifically, is that this was a direct violation.

00:16:37.460 And actually, Glenn, this is breaking news.

00:16:39.200 I heard, actually, two minutes ago, the director of OMB, Russ Vought, just announced on Twitter, he retweeted me with a message saying that these things have been canceled, suspended indefinitely.

00:16:51.700 And, you know, I imagine the White House was pretty upset, but this is actually a victory.

00:16:58.020 The CDC has now been kind of beaten back from its plan of continuing critical race theory training.

00:17:03.860 So the bad thing here is, is that the response from the CDC was, hey, look, we have to do this because this is this is a health crisis.

00:17:14.780 You know, racism in America is a health crisis and it's getting people killed in the streets.

00:17:20.140 And so they just decided on their own.

00:17:22.800 I will believe that something is actually being done when people start to clean house.

00:17:29.140 I mean, this was I mean, did you get your was your source?

00:17:34.300 Can you even say inside the system?

00:17:37.860 Yes, my source was inside the CDC.

00:17:40.480 So I had direct access to the internal emails that were, you know, circulating about this training.

00:17:47.660 So did you talk?

00:17:48.760 I agree.

00:17:49.260 I think this is a this is a good first step to to cancel this training.

00:17:53.980 But but there's really two problems.

00:17:55.620 One is that there has to be some more severe consequences.

00:17:58.940 I know that if you were in a private company and you directly violated the CEO's order on something in a big way like this, you would be out the door within a couple hours.

00:18:09.120 I think the same standard should be held here.

00:18:11.900 But also, I'm just one person with one set of sources.

00:18:15.800 How many other agencies across the federal government are violating the president's order?

00:18:21.380 I've had some unconfirmed reports that I'm working on now that it's happening in multiple agencies, including Customs and Border Patrol.

00:18:29.440 Oh, my gosh.

00:18:30.540 And I'm working on this, you know, today and tomorrow to confirm.

00:18:35.280 But my sense is that it's the tip of the iceberg that actually there are probably hundreds of these trainings continuing to happen in direct opposition to a presidential order, which raises the question.

00:18:45.820 What's the point of having a president if he doesn't have control over his own administration?

00:18:50.200 So this is the deep state.

00:18:53.800 This is what is meant by the deep state.

00:18:58.040 Unelected officials that think they know better than the duly elected officials that they are supposed to work for.

00:19:05.860 They believe presidents come and go.

00:19:09.380 Congressman senators, they come and go.

00:19:11.800 We don't have to do what they say.

00:19:13.840 Just keep it quiet.

00:19:15.300 Just keep moving forward.

00:19:16.760 And they don't follow the directive of the duly elected officials.

00:19:21.980 We do live in a fascistic state.

00:19:25.380 If that is true, everything they say they're fighting.

00:19:30.040 Well, we got to fight fascism.

00:19:31.660 We got to fight with these police officers.

00:19:34.020 Everything that you're saying you're fighting you're doing.

00:19:37.780 If you are part of the administration or the government and you are defying the orders of the president.

00:19:44.180 And help me out on this, Christopher.

00:19:46.980 I said a while ago that this is akin to when Barack Obama said the just war theory has to be taken out of the teachings.

00:19:58.560 And we have to shut down the classes of the just war theory in at West Point.

00:20:04.040 I was wildly against that.

00:20:07.200 Just war theory is what has stopped us from becoming the Nazis. 0.93

00:20:10.340 I think it should be reinstated.

00:20:12.940 But if the Pentagon would have said, sorry, Mr. President, we're going to teach it anyway.

00:20:18.120 I would have been on the side of the president.

00:20:21.220 You can't you can't do that.

00:20:25.240 Otherwise, you don't have a presidency.

00:20:27.800 You don't have a system of government.

00:20:29.780 You have unelected people doing what they want.

00:20:34.060 And unfortunately, I think that that's exactly what we have.

00:20:37.160 I think that there is a kind of permanent administrative state that operates on its own ideology that really never changes depending on who's in office.

00:20:46.020 And unfortunately, for those of us on the right, their ideology is kind of technocratic in nature, is progressive in nature, is kind of scientific in nature.

00:20:55.580 It very much dovetails nicely with progressive administration.

00:20:59.060 So I think what happens is that we may score these tactical victories like shutting down a training session, shutting down many training sessions.

00:21:06.200 But the problem of the permanent bureaucracy remains.

00:21:09.680 How do we make politics meaningful if the largest organ of our politics, the federal government, which has more than a million employees?

00:21:19.320 If the president, who's duly elected under a constitutional system, cannot control the bureaucracy.

00:21:27.920 And in the past, they had a spoiled system, which had its problems.

00:21:31.000 But one advantage of that is that the bureaucracy was political.

00:21:35.300 The bureaucracy is no longer political.

00:21:37.080 It operates independently of our political forces.

00:21:40.340 And I think that is a true constitutional problem that we'll have to grapple with for the years to come.

00:21:47.400 Well, this is something that the Obama administration and what was it?

00:21:51.960 Something 2.0 Society 2.0 with Clinton and Soros that they had developed.

00:21:59.140 This is what they developed and a system that operates on its own no matter who.

00:22:04.480 That's why the president was targeted with Ukraine.

00:22:07.740 That's why they made that such a big deal.

00:22:10.540 That's a that's a hill to die on.

00:22:12.760 And that's why I keep saying if the president doesn't do something about that, if charges aren't brought up and real people fired because of what happened, nothing's going to change.

00:22:26.160 If he just says you're stopping these and he doesn't fire the head of the CDC, if he doesn't fire all of the people that were involved in this, this is a cancer.

00:22:37.740 And it's going to continue to spread.

00:22:41.500 Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

00:22:43.260 I think that it's important that there be some sort of repercussion, because if the only consequence is that the training gets canceled, no big deal.

00:22:51.460 Any other agency around the government will say, well, you know, we can go go forward with it.

00:22:55.380 What's the worst that could happen?

00:22:56.520 We'll get our training canceled.

00:22:57.640 But I think the attitude would be quite different if all of a sudden you have kind of civil service members losing their jobs immediately.

00:23:07.180 You raise the stakes.

00:23:08.620 You create a disincentive to continue with this because an executive order is only as good as as much as you can enforce it.

00:23:15.300 So I'm hoping that this first step that was just announced by OMB director Vought is only a first step.

00:23:22.580 And I'll be advocating for some more severe consequences.

00:23:26.340 So will we.

00:23:28.280 And if if you're exactly right, if they don't, it's deep trouble.

00:23:34.720 If they if they do, you will empower the whistleblowers as well, because whistleblowers are right now sitting there watching and saying, I've got something that everybody should know.

00:23:46.320 But if I blow the whistle and the top people don't get fired, then I'm screwed.

00:23:51.740 I mean, they'll just they'll just they'll just screw with me.

00:23:54.160 They'll they'll go on a hunt to find out who it was.

00:23:57.200 It will empower whistleblowers if they see justice being done.

00:24:01.680 And I commend you, Chris.

00:24:05.560 I think what you're doing is just tremendous.

00:24:08.240 Just tremendous.

00:24:09.000 Thank you.

00:24:10.380 Thank you so much.

00:24:11.140 You bet.

00:24:11.760 Christopher Rufo, you can find him and follow him on Twitter at Real Chris Rufo, R-U-F-O on on Twitter.

00:24:24.020 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:24:31.680 You still have an opportunity to be my friend.

00:24:35.900 No, I am being your friend.

00:24:37.780 You are not.

00:24:38.640 This is I'm telling you right now.

00:24:39.800 This is not this might go well on air.

00:24:41.760 It's not going to go well for me at home.

00:24:43.740 I just I can't believe you haven't shared it with everybody.

00:24:46.320 You are including Tanya up to this point.

00:24:49.340 It's OK.

00:24:50.400 So Tanya is on the phone.

00:24:52.040 Tanya.

00:24:54.140 We were just talking about Netflix.

00:24:56.420 Thank you.

00:24:57.140 Are you there, honey?

00:24:58.940 Yes, I'm here.

00:25:00.060 Thank you.

00:25:00.460 OK, are you busy?

00:25:01.580 We should let you go.

00:25:02.860 You know, she's got plenty of time. 0.97

00:25:04.760 I'm sure.

00:25:05.120 OK, hey, we were just talking about Netflix and I think we should cancel our Netflix.

00:25:12.020 Yeah, we weren't talking about Netflix.

00:25:13.840 What we were talking about was this exciting new purchase at another yet another auction.

00:25:19.340 But it's a really important piece.

00:25:21.200 I think you'll agree.

00:25:22.180 Oh, I forgot to tell you yesterday.

00:25:25.180 Just I did.

00:25:26.960 I actually did.

00:25:28.540 I did.

00:25:30.860 And and, you know, it's something that I think is a really important, you know, piece of history.

00:25:37.880 And and and we and and we wanted an auction yesterday.

00:25:42.100 And when he did, because there was somebody else who was really trying hard to get it.

00:25:46.700 So, you know, we got it at a basement bargain price.

00:25:50.460 That's the good thing.

00:25:51.900 Pat wasn't there.

00:25:52.660 He didn't know.

00:25:53.780 He didn't know.

00:25:54.500 And what price do you put on a one of a kind?

00:25:57.800 Well, there is a price, unfortunately, that you can put on it and you paid that price, which is great because now you have the item.

00:26:06.040 Yeah.

00:26:06.300 Yeah.

00:26:07.100 So I'm sure Tanya sounds excited, right?

00:26:10.300 You're no doubt excited about that.

00:26:12.680 I can't wait to hear about this one.

00:26:16.160 Tell her what she's what she's won.

00:26:20.840 Now, this is a really important piece of history because it I mean, it tells the story of the press and the way the way the press hit it.

00:26:32.140 OK, just spit it out.

00:26:35.360 You are the proud.

00:26:36.540 You are the proud owner.

00:26:39.480 Of FDR of FDR's wheelchair.

00:26:45.080 Yay.

00:26:47.200 I'll say it for you, Tanya.

00:26:52.560 Wow.

00:26:53.440 Yeah.

00:26:54.020 So congratulations.

00:26:55.280 Let me just ask you a question.

00:26:56.920 Let me ask you a question.

00:26:58.000 Yeah.

00:26:58.260 Does that will that arrive along with what?

00:27:08.480 I'm just, you know, just ask.

00:27:10.440 Oh, no, no.

00:27:11.020 There is nothing.

00:27:14.840 Pretty sure there was nothing else.

00:27:19.140 No, there's not.

00:27:20.380 Nope.

00:27:20.660 There was nothing else.

00:27:22.260 Best of my recollection.

00:27:23.460 Nothing.

00:27:24.080 The best of your recollection.

00:27:25.440 Pretty sure there was nothing else.

00:27:27.140 It was just that.

00:27:28.020 So there was nothing else in the auction that caught your eye.

00:27:30.400 No.

00:27:30.860 And it doesn't have to come home.

00:27:32.700 I mean, somebody did ask me yesterday after I got it.

00:27:36.380 They said, where are you going to put that?

00:27:38.900 And I said, I don't know.

00:27:41.820 And then somebody else said, you can put it right next to the German Nazi interrogation chair.

00:27:50.800 Oh, yeah.

00:27:54.100 That's a good combo.

00:27:54.600 We're fighting again.

00:27:56.000 I mean, it was the same time, you know, two chairs, two nations, you know.

00:28:00.500 So.

00:28:01.300 All right, sweetheart.

00:28:02.100 I love you.

00:28:03.540 I love you, too.

00:28:04.340 I was just wondering if it would come with maybe a dozen scrumptious cookies.

00:28:09.480 Oh, wow.

00:28:10.000 Then I might be happy.

00:28:10.920 Then I might be happy about it.

00:28:12.060 Oh, wow.

00:28:12.080 Trying to finagle some cookies that make the whole thing better.

00:28:15.020 Right?

00:28:15.500 Yeah.

00:28:15.720 I have a connection.

00:28:17.680 Hello?

00:28:18.100 What do you mean, maybe?

00:28:18.780 Hello?

00:28:19.100 What do you mean, maybe?

00:28:20.300 You owe it to me.

00:28:21.820 I love you, honey.

00:28:23.600 I love you, too.

00:28:24.300 Bye.

00:28:24.520 Bye.

00:28:24.600 Bye.

00:28:25.300 That wasn't as bad as I thought.

00:28:26.840 Yeah.

00:28:27.100 Unless it's a ruse because she knew she was on the air.

00:28:31.560 And she also don't know what you paid for it. 1.00

00:28:33.980 So that helps a little bit as well, I'm sure.

00:28:36.960 She might be thinking that's a really inexpensive chair.

00:28:41.600 Well, she would be wrong then, wouldn't she?

00:28:43.960 She would.

00:28:44.840 That's probably not a chair you're going to do wheelchair races with up and down the hallway here.

00:28:49.040 No, I generally don't do wheelchair races anyway.

00:28:51.900 Really?

00:28:52.820 No, you do.

00:28:53.940 Yeah.

00:28:54.480 You do.

00:28:54.980 Really?

00:28:55.220 All the time.

00:28:56.040 Yeah.

00:28:56.400 No, this one will not be used for that.

00:28:58.160 Yeah.

00:28:58.380 But remind me when you're going over to the museum.

00:29:01.480 It is honestly interesting because he did have the help of the press.

00:29:07.180 And, you know.

00:29:07.840 No, not the help of the press.

00:29:09.660 They were complicit.

00:29:10.660 They, he could not walk at all.

00:29:15.540 Right.

00:29:15.800 He could not walk.

00:29:17.040 You'll see him with the, you know, the leg braces and the crutches.

00:29:23.280 Yeah.

00:29:23.500 But he had to have his son on one side and somebody else on the other side actually lift him.

00:29:30.040 He would just swing his leg so he could walk.

00:29:33.360 But he had no power in his legs at all.

00:29:36.300 They would build.

00:29:36.860 And how long a time period was that?

00:29:38.760 Forever.

00:29:39.560 Yeah.

00:29:39.980 From the.

00:29:40.360 Yeah.

00:29:40.840 Yeah.

00:29:41.040 I mean, he was.

00:29:41.780 The whole time.

00:29:42.340 The whole time.

00:29:42.980 And he, they would build ramps in front of buildings where his car could pull up.

00:29:50.720 If there was a big federal building, you know, with all the stairs, they would build a giant

00:29:54.960 ramp.

00:29:55.640 So his car would drive up to the very top step and he didn't have to worry about steps.

00:30:01.920 I mean, and no one in the press ever took a picture of it.

00:30:05.640 That is incredible.

00:30:06.980 That's incredible.

00:30:07.880 You want to talk about fascism?

00:30:09.560 That's fascism.

00:30:10.520 Wow.

00:30:10.920 That's fascism.

00:30:12.180 When nobody in America really knew that.

00:30:14.240 The reason why the, the, uh, the desk, the president's desk, the resolute desk that was

00:30:20.860 built by Queen Elizabeth as a gift to, uh, to our nation and given FDR would sit behind

00:30:30.080 that desk.

00:30:30.500 It wasn't in the oval office.

00:30:31.800 I think it was in the map room and he would sit behind it, but people would come in for

00:30:35.940 interviews.

00:30:37.500 That's the reason why the little door is on the front.

00:30:40.640 You remember that?

00:30:41.180 Remember, uh, John F Jr.

00:30:42.800 John F.

00:30:43.140 Kennedy Jr.

00:30:44.240 has that picture of him peeking out underneath his dad's desk.

00:30:47.260 That door was put there by FDR to hide the wheelchair from the press.

00:30:52.540 Wow.

00:30:53.240 So there would be no pictures taken with him in a wheelchair.

00:30:57.100 Wow.

00:30:57.640 Isn't that incredible?

00:30:58.460 It is.

00:30:59.500 It is.

00:30:59.820 It's hard to imagine in this day and age of the press and, and how rabid they are, especially

00:31:05.320 with, with Trump.

00:31:06.480 But I mean, any president wouldn't get away with that today.

00:31:09.380 No president.

00:31:10.320 No.

00:31:10.820 No president.

00:31:11.320 And it was a good thing.

00:31:13.060 It was a good thing here.

00:31:15.160 The Germans are executing people that are handicapped saying they're of zero worth and

00:31:20.260 they're being conquered by the guy who was in a wheelchair and can't walk.

00:31:25.960 Yeah.

00:31:26.120 I mean, this is a really, really good thing.

00:31:28.400 Na na na na

The Glenn Beck Program - September 15, 2020

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