The Glenn Beck Program - July 24, 2019


Best of the Program | Guests: Tom Fitton, David Steinberg & Justin Haskins | 7⧸24⧸19


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

159.30287

Word Count

8,461

Sentence Count

719

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

Glenn and Sarah take a deep dive into the latest Robert Mueller report, as well as the latest on Ilhan Omar and the BDS movement. They also talk about a new development in the case of Rep. Hank Johnson and his bizarre questions to the committee investigating the Mueller report.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, podcasters. We're so glad that you've tuned in today. We've got a great show for you today.
00:00:04.980 Mueller. The Mueller report is, I mean, does it get any better than this? They're tossing oatmeal
00:00:10.980 at each other right off the bat. We'll give you some highlights of that. Also, Tom Fitton,
00:00:17.260 the complaint against Ilhan Omar over fraud. He's making a strong case, this guy from Judicial Watch,
00:00:24.860 and he has filed papers now for the House to look into all of this. Also, David Steinberg,
00:00:31.780 one of the guys who's been working on this story for over a year now, an update on the Ilhan Omar case,
00:00:37.060 getting everything, getting ready for our big show at 5 p.m. on The Blaze. If you've missed it,
00:00:44.660 just subscribe to The Blaze, blazetv.com slash Glenn. Use the promo code Glenn20,
00:00:52.280 and you're going to be able to save 20 bucks, but make sure you do it now. Also, Justin Haskins,
00:00:58.200 the $15 minimum wage, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren. It's a hysterical part of the program
00:01:04.380 today. And back to Ilhan Omar with the BDS movement and her tweets, all on today's podcast.
00:01:13.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:24.520 So we have, we're, we're just, we're just covering the Mueller report and the, the questioning
00:01:36.480 of Robert Mueller. And this is now a question. Let's bring this up. This is Hank Johnson.
00:01:41.600 Correct. And in fact, he is quite possibly the dumbest congressman we have. Just saying something.
00:01:50.460 Yeah, it is. Yeah, there's a lot of dumb. Isn't that true? I refer to the report on that episode.
00:01:56.520 Well, page 85 of volume. This is his piece to that. And also, Director Mueller, DOJ ethics officials
00:02:04.140 confirmed that you had no conflicts that would prevent you from serving as special counsel. Isn't that
00:02:10.100 correct? That's correct. But despite Don McGahn and the Department of Justice guidance around May 23rd,
00:02:18.780 2017, the president quote prodded McGahn to complain to Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein about these
00:02:28.960 supposed conflicts. He's reading from the report. Yeah, he's just reading from the report. These
00:02:32.160 aren't real questions. Again, which I'm bummed because he is so good when he asks questions. If
00:02:40.020 you remember. Oh, yeah. Hank Johnson from Georgia. By the way, what the hell is going on with Georgia
00:02:46.200 politics? Cynthia McKinney, Johnson, the woman who this earlier this week was like,
00:02:52.860 the guy told me to go back home, which was completely untrue. Now they have the videotape
00:03:00.380 showing that everything she said was bogus. It's not great.
00:03:04.300 Oh, it's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, you can keep the Hank Johnson questioning up. We're just
00:03:10.480 going to keep monitoring this in case anything exciting. Well, in case the whole committee tips
00:03:14.640 over and capsizes. That's what Hank Johnson. That's what he said in in committee. He was asking a
00:03:24.480 general about sending more troops to Guan. We have it. My fear is that the whole island will become so
00:03:36.500 overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. Listen to this general. We don't anticipate that.
00:03:47.480 That's the greatest response of all time. Of all time. Of all time. Do you know how islands work, sir?
00:03:56.400 Because it was still respectful. And yet, at the same time, relate how ridiculous the question was.
00:04:02.600 It's not like a floaty in a pool that can just travel around. I don't know if you know that.
00:04:07.740 Can we talk about another development here with Hank Johnson? Did he have like a tube in his throat
00:04:14.340 in like a recent surgery or something? Or did he have a massive shaving problem? Did he have a shaving
00:04:20.080 incident? Because it looks like he cut himself shaving and still has the paper towel under his
00:04:24.220 chin. Watch when he looks up. No, he does. Is that what it is? I think it is. You can kind of see it a
00:04:30.880 little bit. A little bit. But when he looks up, watch him look up. There he is. He's like, I got toilet
00:04:36.180 paper stuck to my neck. I mean, you fire your entire staff after this, if this is what this
00:04:43.600 is. It could be something we don't know about medical issues. With our luck, it was something
00:04:47.200 he was in the hospital getting a blood transfusion last night. And then this will all be Twitter
00:04:52.460 going, look at how insensitive they just hate him because he's black.
00:04:58.560 Well, you know, that is why we mentioned, of course, that it could be it could legitimately
00:05:02.700 be something medical that I don't know about. But it does appear to be that it just he just
00:05:06.980 got himself shaving. A little shaving accident. Well, maybe he was shaving on an island that
00:05:10.420 was in the middle of capsizing. Oh, possible. Sometimes when you move your arm to one side
00:05:16.640 or the other of the room and that room just starts to move a little bit. You got to be careful
00:05:22.040 while you're shaving. Well, I don't shave on planes. We learned that from the documentary
00:05:25.220 airplane. Not a documentary, but but I appreciate that. By the way, tonight at five o'clock
00:05:32.680 you got to join us, Pat. You got to be. Is this the Alana Omar thing? Yeah. Yeah. It is
00:05:38.320 really going to be a good special tonight. I bet we have an hour long special. Do you
00:05:42.620 delve into the or maybe you don't want to give this. No, go ahead. Delve into the marriage
00:05:46.740 with the brother. Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah. We we're we're trying to explain a what this
00:05:52.560 controversy is, because most people are like this can't be true. What's about this? You married
00:05:57.320 your brother. What is this? And so we explain what all of the controversies are from her all
00:06:04.440 the way back to Somalia to today. And we are also giving all of the evidence that has been
00:06:13.400 found. And it's it is I think it's enough to call a grand jury. I have been absolutely
00:06:19.200 dumbfounded by the fact that nobody has been able to maybe until tonight has been able to
00:06:25.380 follow up on this. She married her brother for immigration purposes and nobody can actually
00:06:31.820 track that down. Well, we're not sure. Get an answer from me. Yeah. Yeah. How could it be?
00:06:37.580 Because she won't answer the question. But there is no birth certificate because Somalia was such
00:06:43.840 a nightmare. OK, so there was no birth certificate. So you just have to take and piece together
00:06:49.580 what she says, what he says, follow the pictures, follow the immigration and what they said when
00:06:58.160 they were coming in. And so there's no records of that family in Somalia. No. Wow. Yeah. It's a civil
00:07:05.740 war. It's a civil war. It's not a refugee. We had one, too, and we still have records.
00:07:09.800 It's true. It's possible we had a more developed government than Somalia. Yeah. Even then. Even
00:07:15.140 then. Yeah. It's it's not unusual for not to have birth certificates. And it's really important that
00:07:22.120 we don't make this into a birth certificate thing. Right. Because it's not we're not questioning how
00:07:27.860 she got here. We know how she got here. But there's illegal potential illegal activity there. There's
00:07:33.120 illegal activity that seems pretty likely on how she got in. The family was broken in half. Half went to
00:07:44.040 England under one name. The other half came here under the Omar name. And and then we have all of the
00:07:54.060 photographic evidence. You're just going to have to decide for yourself. It's enough to be able to go now
00:08:00.100 and say to a grand jury. You need to investigate this because there's a felony on entrance. There's
00:08:07.720 possible felonies on lying about who people are for educational purposes, for discounts, fraud.
00:08:19.880 There is a felony of her tax forms where she was. I mean, incredible. There's 28. Is it 28?
00:08:30.080 Tickets and citations that she and her husband slash brother received in this time period where they
00:08:40.100 where they state their address and their address is the same address where her, quote, ex-husband
00:08:47.900 lived. So it looks like she was living with her, quote, new husband, most likely brother with her,
00:08:57.820 with the husband. With the husband. So it was supposedly divorced. It was bigamy. Yeah. No,
00:09:02.160 she didn't divorce. Well, didn't she at one point divorce him? No, she said, yes, in the Muslim
00:09:07.280 tradition. Right. OK. OK. So she married him in the Muslim tradition. Right. And what's really strange
00:09:13.500 is most people don't know this. She's here she is being married to him again. Correct. But when she
00:09:20.440 married her brother or whoever this guy is, she married with a Christian pastor.
00:09:29.660 Now, why would a devout, why would a devout Muslim who wears a hijab and a devout Muslim male marry with a Christian
00:09:42.360 pastor? Why? Indeed. Diversity. That's why. I mean, there's just a lot of stuff like that that's just
00:09:49.760 bizarre. Yeah. Just totally bizarre. But there are, I believe, crimes, serious crimes. And the
00:09:57.540 Minneapolis crimes. Oh, yeah. Jail crimes. Yeah. Felonies. Yeah. Not high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:10:05.080 Actual felonies. You don't have to have an opinion on this. If these things are true, she should be going
00:10:11.180 to prison. And Pat, you definitely want to watch this special tonight, right? I definitely want to.
00:10:15.480 OK. You should use Glenn 20 as your promo code. Then when you sign up at BlazeTV.com, you'll save
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00:10:31.100 Wouldn't one be sufficient? It would. It would. He doesn't believe in global warming. Of course not. Yeah.
00:10:36.600 Glenn 20 at BlazeTV.com. Make sure you get that. Let's real quick. Let's
00:10:41.120 go to Louie Gohmert.
00:10:43.160 The element of any of those obstructions you referenced requires a corrupt state of mind,
00:10:50.040 correct? Corrupt intent. Correct. Right. And if somebody knows they did not conspire with
00:10:58.420 anybody from Russia to affect the election, and they see the big justice department with people
00:11:06.080 that hate that person coming after them. And then a special counsel appointed who hires
00:11:13.400 dozen or more people that hate that person. And he knows he's innocent. He's not corruptly acting
00:11:23.160 in order to see that justice is done. What he's doing is not obstructing justice. He is pursuing
00:11:31.220 justice. And the fact that you ran it out two years means you perpetuated injustice. I
00:11:38.540 take your question. Gentleman's time is expired. The witness may answer the question. I take
00:11:43.520 your question. What does that mean? Gentleman from Florida. This is like everyone's just senile
00:11:52.720 just talking at each other. I like pizza. What the hell does that mean? I take your question.
00:11:59.580 I guess it's just I understand it. Yeah. He's not going to. He doesn't respect, I guess,
00:12:04.440 the question is I heard that you said that essentially what is what he said. The obstruction
00:12:08.360 investigation. I mean, isn't that a good, isn't that a good point? Yeah. I mean, I'd like to hear
00:12:14.700 your quote. And then in your report, you wrote about multiple calls from the president to White
00:12:19.320 House counsel, Don McGahn. And regarding the second call, you wrote, and I quote, McGahn recalled that the
00:12:26.360 president was more direct, saying something like, call Rod, tell Rod that Mueller has conflicts and
00:12:33.560 can't be special, can't be the special counsel. McGahn, recall the president telling him,
00:12:38.480 Mueller has to go and call me back when you do it. Director Mueller, did McGahn understand what
00:12:46.540 the president was ordering him to do? I direct you to the, what we've written in the report in terms
00:12:51.960 of characterizing his feelings. And in the report, it says, quote, look, I, I, I should be eating
00:12:59.580 pudding at this time. I don't usually think like this now. I think I wrote it down. Maybe you should
00:13:06.360 read it. But it appears as though that's all you're doing is reading the report and, and asking me to
00:13:12.360 leave my pudding time just to say, yeah, that's what the report said, I think.
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00:13:36.260 Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, has just yesterday filed a House ethics complaint
00:13:42.140 against Representative Ilhan Omar over potential immigration, marriage, tax, and student loans.
00:13:50.500 Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch. That's a public interest group that investigates
00:13:55.340 and prosecutes government corruption. They have been around for a long time. Tom Fitton is their
00:14:04.000 president at Judicial Watch, and they have just filed a House ethics complaint against Ilhan Omar.
00:14:11.180 Welcome to the program, Tom.
00:14:14.500 Glenn, good to be with you. Thank you for having me on.
00:14:17.080 Thanks. We're doing a special tonight. And, you know, the, the, the mainstream media makes this
00:14:23.260 into conspiracy theory, or they say this is just a crazy, you know, right wingers. But we've had the
00:14:30.180 Minneapolis Star Tribune do an investigation themselves and verify the investigations by crazy
00:14:38.100 right wingers. And they either can confirm, they can confirm about 60% of it. And the rest of it,
00:14:47.740 they say they can't disprove without her participation. These are serious, serious crimes.
00:14:56.100 What we're presenting tonight, I believe is enough for an indictment and a call for a grand jury.
00:15:02.600 I gather you're at the same place. Yeah, there's certainly enough evidence to warrant a criminal
00:15:09.560 investigation into what went on there. And, you know, Glenn, you've been looking at this,
00:15:14.780 I'm sure for as long as we have, it's kind of been this like low grade fever type of corruption
00:15:20.500 scandal. And when her hometown left wing newspaper essentially puts its stamp of approval on the
00:15:29.140 concerns that we've had for a long time going on there, it, I think it's pretty hard now for the
00:15:36.180 Justice Department to ignore it, Department of Homeland Security, the IRS. And, you know,
00:15:42.000 there's a political process for handling ethics concerns related to this type of activity, which
00:15:46.620 is what we're trying to pursue with the House. We're not naive as to the interest in Democrats in
00:15:52.140 doing this, but we just got to try to make the system work. We've got to try to remind these
00:15:57.540 members they're not above the law and hold other members accountable if they're going to try to
00:16:01.720 let them get away with it. But I think that is, they do think they're above the law. I mean,
00:16:06.180 we're talking perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud,
00:16:13.920 federal student loan fraud. If it was, if it was you, Tom, or if it was me, how much trouble would
00:16:21.120 we be in? How much jail time would we be looking at? Yeah, this would be an easy prosecution if it
00:16:28.240 were a regular individual involved in it. But this is a politically connected figure now,
00:16:34.720 member of Congress. I'm sure the Justice Department would be horrified of having
00:16:37.760 to do something here. But that's the goal of filing this ethics complaint. Not only will it put
00:16:44.600 pressure on the House to do something about it, but highlight the issue for the Justice Department
00:16:48.840 to follow up. So hang on just a second. You say it would be very easy. Why would it be very easy?
00:16:54.640 It's complicated. Well, it's not that complicated. You know, so your listeners should know, it looks
00:17:02.100 like Miss Omar came into the United States using the name of another family. The Omar family. Her
00:17:09.480 siblings, including her brother, went to the United Kingdom. It looks like she married her brother to
00:17:15.880 give him some type of immigration benefits here in the United States. It's unclear how that plays out.
00:17:22.460 So it's so bad that it's we can't be confident that, as we point out, it's not her. She's going by
00:17:31.480 another name that's not her own as a member of Congress. It's extraordinary.
00:17:35.900 So it seems it seems to be pretty well documented that this is what happened. What I can't figure out
00:17:45.860 is why did she come with her father, I think her father and her sister and go under the Omar family
00:17:55.440 with the other siblings going to the UK? Is is it because the Omars could only take a certain number
00:18:03.580 of people or why didn't they take the whole family under the Omar name? Do you know?
00:18:09.680 Well, I'm not I'm not sure about that. But, you know, remember, this is you know,
00:18:13.600 these are refugees. They're in it when they were in Kenya at the time. I mean, who knows what was
00:18:19.440 going on? You know, maybe they could only bring three individuals in with under the other family's
00:18:24.160 name or the other or her other members wanted to go to the United Kingdom for other reasons.
00:18:28.780 you know, my guess is this is just the tip of the iceberg and probably not an unusual story in
00:18:34.580 terms of a fraud associated with refugee settlements here in the United States.
00:18:39.800 Apparently, DNA DNA evidence shows that 80 percent of Somalis coming in are not related to the people
00:18:47.840 they say they're related to. Yeah. You know, and and, you know, that might be happening with a wink and
00:18:54.580 a nod from authorities. The point is to get the refugees in and the specifics of the names,
00:18:59.680 however important it might be, the national security and the rule of law are terribly relevant
00:19:03.840 to helping the refugees. It's amazing. But if you're going to run for Congress, you've got to
00:19:08.640 make sure all your ducks in a row. And that hasn't happened to you. It's amazing to me that under Obama,
00:19:13.800 we couldn't take Christian refugees because we just didn't know. But if you say and I believe this to
00:19:20.040 be true, authorities look at this with a wink and a nod for Somalian Muslim refugees, but they don't
00:19:27.800 have a wink and a nod for Christian Syrian or Iraqi refugees. There is something really toxic in our
00:19:35.960 system. Well, you remember the refugee program, the vetting of refugees was outsourced to third
00:19:42.260 parties, UN officials and folks like that. So the United States just essentially accepted the word
00:19:49.340 of the third party. That's what had been happening with the refugee program, which is why President
00:19:54.600 Trump tried to reform it to get more security measures in place. So let me go here. As you're
00:20:00.820 looking at the fraud of the marriage, she marries her husband, let's call him Ahmed I. She marries
00:20:09.720 Ahmed I, but she says she only marries him under a religious ceremony. Is there any documentation
00:20:17.420 of those two being married legally at all the first time?
00:20:23.980 No, and I think, you know, some of the religious ceremonies were officiated by a Christian minister,
00:20:29.720 Well, that was Ahmed II. Ahmed II. Ahmed II. Ahmed I was a religious Muslim to the Muslim tradition. Ahmed II was a legal and Christian ceremony done by a Christian pastor, which I just, how does this woman who's wearing a burqa get married by a Christian? It doesn't make sense.
00:20:53.940 I encourage all your listeners to go to the power line blog so they can start creating their own genealogical charts and marriage charts for the congressman from Minnesota. And this is why the ethics committee needs to get into this because she was playing fast and loose with our marriage laws.
00:21:18.080 She was, she was filing IRS forms, pretending to be married for one to one person when in fact she was married to another.
00:21:27.480 She was, we have, we have the,
00:21:29.960 She had to amend the form. She said that's good enough, but it may not be good enough. It wouldn't be good enough for most any other American.
00:21:36.100 No.
00:21:36.440 If you committed marriage fraud and you were just caught on an IRS form doing it.
00:21:39.780 No. And she also committed perjury on like, like 26 different, I think they're traffic violations and other violations that she and Ahmed II got.
00:21:51.020 And they, they put their address down as the address of Ahmed I.
00:21:56.480 So apparently they were all living together in some strange threes company kind of marriage with her children and both husbands.
00:22:07.580 I mean, I don't even know what that is.
00:22:11.040 Well, you know, if you're engaged in marriage fraud, it makes perfect sense.
00:22:15.180 Correct.
00:22:15.440 You understand she's living with her brother, her husband's there too.
00:22:19.640 On paper, the brother's married to her, but it's nothing substantive beyond the paper marriage for purposes of immigration.
00:22:26.240 Another purpose, who knows what other purposes to have them get some benefits from that marriage.
00:22:31.540 And on top of that, you have to wonder whether the house was defrauded in terms of descriptions about her name and other background material in terms of filings with the house.
00:22:44.220 This is a, you know, there's criminal liability here potentially, but she could remove from Congress if the house does its job here and concludes the evidence shows what we suggest it does.
00:22:56.520 But isn't she also, I mean, aren't these felonies?
00:23:02.660 Yep.
00:23:03.400 Yep.
00:23:04.880 You know, the U.S. attorney, and I don't know who the U.S. attorney in Minnesota is, but if you ain't looking at it, he ain't doing his job.
00:23:14.120 Tom, you've looked at this stuff and you've been in this business for a while.
00:23:18.440 How comfortable are you with the, um, with the Facebook, a lot of the stuff we can't go any further because all we have are Facebook posts of her and Ahmed to the timeline, et cetera, et cetera.
00:23:35.000 They were deleted from her, uh, timelines.
00:23:38.420 They were deleted from her and her alleged brothers, uh, uh, posts.
00:23:43.840 All, all of this has been erased, but we have access to those things.
00:23:48.200 Um, how comfortable are you that these are legitimately her and her families?
00:23:58.340 Well, when I see our good friends at the Paraline blog, who I trust, even though the big media pretends you can't trust them, uh, they were quite diligent in trying to, uh, ferret out all this information.
00:24:09.320 And then you have, uh, the legacy media come in, the Minnesota newspaper come in and essentially say, yeah, there are a lot of questions here.
00:24:18.840 And she's acting like she has something to hide and essentially repeats the reporting of our conservative friends there in Paraline.
00:24:27.120 Uh, you know, I, as you point out, I've been doing this for a long time to kind of, you know, people sometimes come to the wrong conclusions about publicly available documents.
00:24:36.100 Uh, and I think the, the, the, the right conclusions about this is that something illegal took place.
00:24:42.840 Uh, uh, Scott Johnson, who runs Paraline blog, did all a reporting on this.
00:24:47.720 He was in the media the other day.
00:24:49.380 He said he was 98% certain marriage fraud took place and 90% certain the marriage fraud was with his brother, with her brother.
00:24:57.120 So something needs to be done here.
00:24:59.160 So, uh, and if she's innocent, then let the investigation figure that out.
00:25:03.820 Right.
00:25:04.420 Uh, and, um, or, you know, let's have an investigation so that we can conclude one way or another, whether we should move on.
00:25:11.140 Shouldn't be.
00:25:11.660 And she should be.
00:25:12.340 There is a presumption of evidence.
00:25:14.200 You know, there is a presumption of that, uh, in a sense.
00:25:16.400 Right.
00:25:16.980 But, uh, there's enough evidence that any other citizen would be subject to a criminal investigation.
00:25:21.340 Yes.
00:25:22.000 Tom, thank you so much.
00:25:23.220 Tom Fitton from, um, uh, Judicial Watch.
00:25:26.360 Uh, he is the, uh, president of that.
00:25:28.780 I, we are doing a special on this tonight.
00:25:31.140 This is, uh, serious, serious allegations.
00:25:35.440 Um, and we want to explain the entire story to you.
00:25:39.260 It's very difficult, um, especially when you're reading it or listening to it on the radio.
00:25:43.660 It's very difficult to follow.
00:25:45.080 We're going to make it really easy for you to follow tonight at five o'clock.
00:25:49.700 And we urge you to watch it and share it with your friends.
00:25:52.940 Uh, this is a, uh, a dangerous situation with somebody who has, I believe, dangerous connections,
00:26:01.420 connections to care, high level connections to care, which is a offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood,
00:26:08.200 which is the parent organization that supports, uh, uh, Hamas.
00:26:14.680 Or is it Hezbollah?
00:26:15.980 No, it's Hamas.
00:26:16.740 Uh, so this is a dangerous situation that we need to clear up.
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00:26:49.300 One last note on this.
00:26:50.900 Um, I, uh, the, the writer that we have been in touch with is David Steinberg, and he's done
00:26:57.240 a lion's share of this.
00:26:58.400 There's been a team effort, but he's done the lion's share of this.
00:27:00.940 He's going to be with us in about 10 minutes.
00:27:03.040 Um, he was working for PJ media at the time he began this.
00:27:06.940 He gave this story to us about a week and a half ago.
00:27:10.120 I've been in touch with him off and on over the last year.
00:27:13.600 And he gave this story to me, um, for the blaze to run.
00:27:18.080 We wanted to make sure that we did all of our due diligence, uh, and power line, uh, beat
00:27:26.420 us to it by a few hours.
00:27:28.260 But we have Leon Wolf on who is an attorney and our chief editor, uh, here at the blaze to
00:27:36.160 go over what he did and what he went over, where he felt that there were any flaws.
00:27:41.920 We, I guess, approved this story about two o'clock in the morning.
00:27:45.720 And, uh, that was too late.
00:27:47.880 Uh, so we didn't get the exclusive, but I want you to know we didn't, we didn't run it
00:27:54.380 because we were wanting to make sure it was all buttoned up.
00:27:57.660 Uh, we did approve the story because it is buttoned up.
00:28:03.660 Uh, so we're taking this very, very seriously and see this tonight at five o'clock only on
00:28:11.820 blaze tv.com slash Glenn promo code Glenn 20.
00:28:16.660 Uh, we have David Steinberg on, uh, with us now.
00:28:35.640 David is a, uh, journalist.
00:28:37.700 He, uh, has been following the Ilan Omar case for how long, David?
00:28:42.820 A year?
00:28:43.600 Over a year?
00:28:44.980 I've been on this a little more than a year.
00:28:47.880 Scott Johnson and Preya Samson started this, uh, got on it back in August of 2016.
00:28:54.640 And this is when nobody was on it.
00:28:57.280 And it actually started the, these claims started, um, uh, with a Somali blogger, if I'm not
00:29:04.900 mistaken.
00:29:05.320 Uh, yeah, there was a message board used by members of the local Minneapolis Somali community.
00:29:12.940 And just in the hours after Ilan first won a primary in August of 2016, they posted the
00:29:21.900 first evidence that her marriage was a sham and that this person was actually her genetic
00:29:27.080 brother who she had married in 2009.
00:29:29.700 And what was the, what was the evidence then?
00:29:33.920 The evidence then was photographic and it was also referencing, uh, they specifically referenced
00:29:44.460 when she got married to the person who she claims it was her husband at the time, this
00:29:50.020 Ahmet Hersey.
00:29:51.760 And, and asked, he pointed, he pointed out where we could dig up the documents that the
00:29:57.600 document should be there.
00:29:59.180 And so I, go ahead.
00:30:01.080 I talked to you about, oh, I don't know.
00:30:03.600 I think we started first talking about eight months ago or so.
00:30:06.600 Um, and you were on this and I know you were working with, uh, people in England to get
00:30:11.720 more documentation because half the family, um, went to, uh, Virginia when they left Kenya.
00:30:20.540 They're from Somalia.
00:30:21.500 They were in a, uh, a refugee camp in Kenya and they were trying to get out to the West.
00:30:28.020 And half the family went to Virginia with the Omar family.
00:30:33.420 And that's when she allegedly changed her name to Omar.
00:30:38.240 She's not an Omar.
00:30:39.980 Apparently, uh, she is an Elmi and the rest of her family that, uh, I think three others
00:30:47.740 went to England.
00:30:49.240 Do you know why the family split at that point?
00:30:53.160 Why didn't they all go to America with the Omars?
00:30:56.140 Do you know?
00:30:58.020 Well, what we've heard from sources in the Somali community who, you know, who were involved
00:31:04.700 with this wave of, uh, refugee immigration to the U.S. at that time, were well aware of
00:31:10.660 what people were doing to gain access to both the U.S. and the U.K. at that time.
00:31:17.640 Several people gave us the same story about how, about how Ilhan and her father arrived in
00:31:24.380 the United States.
00:31:25.180 They said there was this family, the Omars, which apparently already had a relative in
00:31:33.200 the United States.
00:31:34.240 So they were using the P3 refugee application program, family reunification, which allows
00:31:42.320 you to apply as a refugee, uh, in a bit quicker fashion if you already have someone in the U.S.,
00:31:48.180 which legally, legally is referred to as the, the anchor relative.
00:31:52.860 Now, so that was the Omar family.
00:31:55.740 It appeared they already have that.
00:31:57.300 Um, and this was somebody, the Omar family is within the same clan as Ilhan's father.
00:32:06.240 Okay.
00:32:07.740 And they had a discussion over in Kenya at the refugee camp.
00:32:12.940 The Omar family allowed them, allowed, uh, Ilhan's father, Ilhan's sister, and Ilhan to fraudulently
00:32:23.460 apply as part of this P3 program as members of the Omar family.
00:32:28.920 And then Omar's brother and sister, uh, went over to the UK under the family name of Elmi.
00:32:42.140 Correct.
00:32:42.960 That's what we also heard.
00:32:43.960 They applied to, for, uh, asylum in the United Kingdom under their legal names, which was
00:32:52.220 Ahmed Nur-Said Elmi, Layla Nur-Said Elmi, and Muhammad Nur-Said Elmi.
00:32:58.120 Those were three siblings of Ilhan's.
00:33:00.600 Okay.
00:33:00.900 So why didn't those three, any idea why those three did not come under the Omar banner, uh,
00:33:08.640 here in America?
00:33:09.480 Uh, was there a limit or what, what do we, do we know anything on that?
00:33:15.780 I don't have anything to verify what I've heard from sources as to why those three did
00:33:21.960 not come.
00:33:22.880 But what I have heard from sources is that there just simply wasn't a likelihood of getting
00:33:28.980 that many people.
00:33:30.400 Okay.
00:33:30.760 All of them.
00:33:31.320 Correct.
00:33:31.500 All right.
00:33:32.060 So now we have Ahmed Elmi, apparently her brother, who she's later going to marry,
00:33:38.440 living in Camden, uh, in the United Kingdom and Lila Elmi, who also lived in Camden at apparently
00:33:49.820 the same address.
00:33:52.060 Do we have, I know you talked to, or I know you have both of them in Camden.
00:33:59.060 Do we have anything that shows that they're at the same address?
00:34:02.280 Yes, I have them at the same address, uh, which I haven't published because I believe
00:34:07.700 either they or relatives are stolen at the address.
00:34:12.840 So, uh, I haven't published that, but I do have both of them at the same address.
00:34:16.820 We have, uh, I have verification that, uh, both from, from the, the school itself and from
00:34:27.240 Ahmed Elmi's own social media that he attended the, uh, the, the junior high high school, which
00:34:37.020 was in that neighborhood.
00:34:38.400 All right.
00:34:39.880 So can you, if, if we don't publish or anything, if it's just for our eyes only, so I can verify
00:34:46.000 this, can you send me the information that you have where the places them at the same
00:34:50.920 address?
00:34:51.980 So I can, uh, because that is, those are the only two questions that I had on this was,
00:34:58.360 okay, don't understand the split up other than it was not likely to get all of them in
00:35:03.260 under the Omar's and the other is, do you have any, anything that is firming, uh, confirming
00:35:10.120 that they were living at the same address?
00:35:12.440 Because we do know that Leah, Leah Elmi is Layla Elmi is, um, is Omar's sister because
00:35:23.920 of what evidence?
00:35:25.920 The evidence that I published was, what is, the problem is that he was a minor at the
00:35:34.220 time.
00:35:34.920 Right.
00:35:35.140 So coming up with anything beyond address records legally is very, it's not something,
00:35:42.140 you know, I've been able to do the whole investigation without requesting that anybody leaked me something
00:35:47.080 and put themselves in jeopardy.
00:35:48.540 Correct.
00:35:48.840 Uh, I didn't want to start.
00:35:50.080 So that's been difficult.
00:35:52.000 What I have been able to show though, is he wasn't rolled at that school, that they lived
00:35:58.560 at the same address, which I'm happy to forward to you.
00:36:01.660 No, no, no.
00:36:02.320 But I'm, I'm, I'm asking about Layla.
00:36:04.460 How do we, what are the connect?
00:36:05.880 Yeah.
00:36:06.080 How, what are the connections there that we know they are sisters?
00:36:10.520 Because once we know they're sisters and we have Ahmed as a youth living with her,
00:36:18.260 uh, we, I mean, we pretty much have that.
00:36:20.920 I mean, it's pretty much done.
00:36:23.340 So.
00:36:23.780 What I published as far as a connection showing Ilhan and Layla are sisters, uh, Ilhan has
00:36:31.180 on multiple occasions referred to her own father as a man named Nurse Saeed.
00:36:36.700 She's been photographed with him.
00:36:39.380 Uh, she's called him Nurse Saeed.
00:36:41.860 She tweets his name was Nurse Saeed.
00:36:43.600 Everyone in the community knew him by that name.
00:36:47.140 And he, uh, he, his social media, he refers to himself as Nurse Saeed.
00:36:53.220 I, I pull up a, a marriage document from 1997 from Camden, uh, it's a borough of London.
00:37:03.500 And Layla Nurse Saeed Elmi, when she got married in 1997, she lists her father on the application
00:37:11.620 form as Nurse Saeed Elmi.
00:37:14.440 Now, at the age of, of, we, we know his birth date, uh, of the one in the United States that
00:37:22.020 is referred to, uh, that Ilhan has referred to as her father.
00:37:25.780 There is nobody else, uh, in either the United States or the United Kingdom named Nurse Saeed
00:37:34.280 Elmi that I can locate.
00:37:35.740 There is certainly nobody close to the same birth date.
00:37:40.920 Now, then I also published photographs, which had originally appeared on Ilhan Omar's, uh,
00:37:49.660 social media back in 2016, which she deleted once Scott Johnson first got on this case.
00:37:55.780 The photograph I published was Layla Elmi, Ilhan Omar, and Nurse Saeed, the father, all
00:38:06.100 with their arms around each other on a family vacation in late 2011.
00:38:11.680 I published another picture of Ilhan Omar visiting Layla Elmi in 2015 in London.
00:38:20.020 And remarkably, Ilhan put a caption on the page, I heart my sisters.
00:38:27.500 And then I also published a, uh, another social media post by someone who attended an event
00:38:36.660 in late 2018 in Washington, DC with Ilhan Omar and Layla Elmi.
00:38:44.020 He says, I just had dinner with Ilhan Omar and her sister Layla Elmi.
00:38:48.840 He, he had no, there is no rational, objective reason for him to incorrectly identify the person
00:38:56.620 he had dinner with as Ilhan's sister Layla Elmi.
00:38:59.560 Now, this event actually took place a couple hours after Ilhan had filed a police, I mean, she didn't file a report.
00:39:11.300 Uh, I'm sorry about that.
00:39:12.680 She had been in a taxi and she claimed that the next day that the taxi driver had harassed her
00:39:20.380 and said, uh, threatened to pull her hijab off and, uh, called her a terrorist, et cetera.
00:39:29.460 She said, I was in the cab with my sister.
00:39:32.200 She, she later, a few days later filed a report with, uh, a DC, uh, ethics, DC ethics commission
00:39:41.600 and the taxicab commission that, uh, stated, I, I FOIA'd the report.
00:39:48.280 It stated, I was in the car with my sister.
00:39:52.120 Now we know, so she, you know, we know she has testified here.
00:39:56.040 This is a legal document.
00:39:57.340 Uh, she could be punished for perjury for filing that falsely.
00:40:00.820 Then the person she was with, she identified as her sister.
00:40:04.600 This person who we can place at that event, having dinner with her, said that sister was
00:40:11.260 Layla Elmi.
00:40:13.700 Which makes, uh, her second husband, her brother.
00:40:18.400 Uh, and this is a, it's a very complex story, but it is very buttoned up.
00:40:23.560 David, I salute you and, and all those who have risked so much and spent so much time on
00:40:29.520 this story.
00:40:30.140 I think this story is, uh, finally going to get its due.
00:40:34.700 Hopefully justice will be done.
00:40:36.980 There is enough here to, uh, to demand, uh, legal action to be taken as in form of an
00:40:45.040 investigation.
00:40:46.300 Uh, you can, she should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
00:40:51.140 But if I were on a grand jury, there is more than enough to say, yes, uh, prosecutors should
00:40:58.460 look at, uh, investigating her and buttoning these things up.
00:41:02.360 If these things are absolutely true, she should be compelled to testify, uh, and answer some
00:41:07.800 of these questions.
00:41:08.660 And these are, um, it's not only fraud, it's forgery.
00:41:13.060 I'm sorry.
00:41:13.500 It's not only forgery and fraud.
00:41:15.420 It is a felony.
00:41:16.720 Uh, David, thank you so much.
00:41:18.720 Appreciate it.
00:41:19.400 Thanks a lot, Clint.
00:41:20.080 You bet.
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00:41:42.080 The true story of Elon Omar, as if that is her real name.
00:41:50.340 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:42:03.880 Justin Haskins is, uh, in studio with us.
00:42:06.140 He's the executive editor of the Heartland Institute.
00:42:08.160 And, uh, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, Justin, didn't you and I first interact, uh, because
00:42:16.760 you were start, you started, was it the Heartland Institute?
00:42:19.700 You started this expose, if you will, or the exposing of socialism.
00:42:25.240 So, uh, yeah, I was started stopping socialism.com.
00:42:28.780 That's what it was.
00:42:29.360 That's right.
00:42:29.840 Stopping socialism.com.
00:42:31.220 Go there now.
00:42:32.460 Um, back in the summer of last year, so basically a year ago.
00:42:36.760 It was only a year ago.
00:42:37.740 It was only a year ago.
00:42:38.700 Um, it was really spurred on by the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and some of the stuff
00:42:43.520 that I was seeing with my own generation.
00:42:45.140 I'm a young guy.
00:42:46.120 Yeah.
00:42:46.340 Yeah.
00:42:46.660 Seeing people fall in love with socialism all over again.
00:42:50.240 And you have to, you really have to not be able to think, you know, or, or you're just,
00:42:56.240 you're in willful ignorance.
00:42:58.580 Uh, and, and there's no critical thinking in engaged at all.
00:43:03.040 Not at all.
00:43:03.680 And, and, and, uh, I mean, you talked about willful ignorance.
00:43:06.540 I mean, it's sort of willful, but it's also my generation grew up.
00:43:11.280 I went to a public school in the liberal Northeast.
00:43:13.320 And so I get it.
00:43:14.800 I mean, I was indoctrinated like everybody else.
00:43:17.240 I mean, it didn't take with me, but it took with just about everybody else around me.
00:43:21.060 So I understand.
00:43:22.440 So how was it, how was it taught to you?
00:43:24.360 How was socialism?
00:43:25.420 You say indoctrinated.
00:43:26.580 I grew up, I went into school.
00:43:28.040 I went, I was in school in the seventies and graduated high school in 82.
00:43:31.180 So I missed, apparently I missed all of this indoctrination.
00:43:34.560 How is it?
00:43:35.680 How is it presented in school?
00:43:37.540 It's, it's presented in school as capitalism is for greedy, heartless, terrible people.
00:43:43.580 You're a terrible person.
00:43:44.720 If you're a capitalist.
00:43:45.600 Okay.
00:43:45.960 And socialism is basically charity.
00:43:48.160 That's what it is.
00:43:49.020 It's some kind of form of charity.
00:43:50.660 And yeah, there are all these socialist governments all throughout history that screwed it up,
00:43:55.280 but that's because they were authoritarian socialist government.
00:43:58.200 If they had only been democratic, then that would have solved all of their problems.
00:44:03.180 So we can fix it.
00:44:04.100 Although they were all democratic, at least at first, they all got in with a vote.
00:44:08.980 Yeah, that's right.
00:44:09.620 That's how it always starts.
00:44:10.740 See, it always starts with democracy and then it devolves very quickly into tyranny.
00:44:14.520 Correct.
00:44:14.620 Yes, yes.
00:44:15.420 Yeah.
00:44:15.580 They skipped over that part of the history lesson in school, but that's how it's always sold.
00:44:20.400 It's look, we're making progress.
00:44:22.420 Things are getting better.
00:44:23.660 We just need to put the right bureaucrats in place.
00:44:26.460 We need to have the right.
00:44:27.420 Oh my gosh.
00:44:28.360 I mean, it's the same.
00:44:29.180 This is the end of Wilson's dream.
00:44:32.040 It is.
00:44:32.560 It really is.
00:44:34.120 Before I came here, actually, on the plane, I was re-listening to Liars, a great book,
00:44:39.720 by the way.
00:44:39.960 Thank you very much.
00:44:40.520 By Glenn Book.
00:44:40.940 Thank you.
00:44:41.400 And when going over that history all over again, it's astounding how much, this is just repeating
00:44:48.380 itself over and over and over again.
00:44:50.320 It's the same story that was in the early 1900s and even late 1800s is playing out again
00:44:56.140 a hundred years later.
00:44:57.160 We've learned nothing.
00:44:58.460 We've learned absolutely nothing.
00:44:59.500 Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, they will be known unless we turn the tide this time.
00:45:07.320 They're going to be known as the robber barons of this era.
00:45:10.860 Yeah.
00:45:11.020 And look at the good that they have done.
00:45:14.480 Absolutely.
00:45:15.200 I talk about this all the time with people.
00:45:17.140 My wife is a doctor, so I know a lot of doctors.
00:45:20.720 They love single-pair healthcare.
00:45:22.300 They're all academic doctors.
00:45:23.720 Love it.
00:45:25.000 It's crazy.
00:45:26.060 It is because I tell them all the time, look, who do you think they're coming for first?
00:45:31.040 Who do you think is going to be the first scapegoat when things start to go wrong,
00:45:34.580 when costs are too high?
00:45:35.920 You guys are all making $500,000, $600,000, $700,000 a year, the surgeons and stuff like that.
00:45:40.660 Do you think that they're just going to let you do this forever?
00:45:43.260 Of course not.
00:45:43.960 Do you think they care that you have half a million dollars in student loan debt and all
00:45:47.060 of this stuff?
00:45:47.260 No, they'll forgive it and you have to work for them.
00:45:49.060 That's right.
00:45:49.460 And then you work for them at whatever price they pay.
00:45:52.300 So that is absolutely going to come.
00:45:54.740 They're going to be demonized too.
00:45:56.600 There are all sorts of, this is how socialism always plays out.
00:45:59.500 There is always a shifting group of people who become, if only we could get rid of them
00:46:05.380 or if only we could somehow put the chains on them.
00:46:09.080 They're the problem, not us.
00:46:10.660 Right, right.
00:46:11.400 And it shifts because as soon as they put the chains on one group, that doesn't work.
00:46:15.280 They have to put the chains on another group.
00:46:16.820 Correct.
00:46:17.100 And it goes back and forth over and over and over.
00:46:19.260 And if you know this, I'm a watch collector and I love the story of, one of them is Glashut
00:46:27.440 and the other is Eilenos and Son.
00:46:31.400 And these were really great watches that were made in Germany until the Soviet Union took
00:46:41.800 over.
00:46:42.220 And all of the watchmakers fled and they went to the West.
00:46:47.100 Okay.
00:46:47.380 So they all went to Switzerland and they all started making watches there.
00:46:50.180 Soon as the wall came down, they went back to those areas.
00:46:53.900 And now they're making these, you know, timeless brands again.
00:46:57.260 But the, but the funny part about this is, is that is why the Russians had a hard time
00:47:03.780 keeping time, literally keeping time.
00:47:07.480 They killed anybody who knew who was a watchmaker because they were part of the, you know, they
00:47:13.540 were part of the upper, upper crust that were crushing the masses.
00:47:17.260 And so they left and they killed the ones who didn't.
00:47:21.340 And forever, they had a hard time just making a watch.
00:47:25.560 Yeah.
00:47:25.740 That's amazing.
00:47:26.840 And we've seen this, especially in China.
00:47:29.200 I mean, China had a remarkable history of elevating one group of people to being this
00:47:35.520 special class of people and then killing them all off and imprisoning them because
00:47:39.700 they're the problem.
00:47:40.800 And then the educated people were the problem.
00:47:43.460 So then we have to imprison all of them and we have to kill them and we have to get
00:47:47.120 them out of the way.
00:47:47.980 And then, then it was the farmers who were the problem.
00:47:50.280 And then it was back to the educated people.
00:47:52.420 Correct.
00:47:52.540 It's, it's the same because it can never be them.
00:47:54.960 It can never be the people in power or the ideas.
00:47:57.960 Right.
00:47:58.440 You can never impugn the ideas.
00:48:00.360 Exactly.
00:48:00.960 So a good example of this is the people in power can always do what they have to do,
00:48:10.120 but they never hold, they never allow that to happen any place else.
00:48:15.220 And let me give you an example.
00:48:17.120 Bernie Sanders, $15 an hour.
00:48:20.080 Okay.
00:48:20.680 Everybody has to do it.
00:48:22.520 And you say, Bernie, it doesn't work.
00:48:24.280 What will happen is people will either reduce the hours that those people work, which will
00:48:29.260 hurt them, or they will, uh, they'll fire people.
00:48:33.960 Tell me the story about Bernie Sanders.
00:48:35.860 This is, I think my favorite story of this year.
00:48:39.040 I love this story.
00:48:40.140 So Bernie Sanders, a socialist running around the country, telling everybody, it's not just
00:48:44.860 a good idea to have a $15 minimum wage, but it is immoral.
00:48:47.980 If you don't, you're exploiting people who do not earn $15 an hour while he's doing this.
00:48:53.620 It turns out he's not paying his own lowest wage workers, $15 an hour.
00:48:59.440 He's making them work 60 hours a week for about $13 an hour.
00:49:04.360 Okay.
00:49:04.760 Which is just astounding in and of itself.
00:49:06.920 But the best part is 60 hours.
00:49:08.940 Yes.
00:49:09.180 60 hours shop.
00:49:10.460 Right.
00:49:10.820 60 hours.
00:49:11.680 The best part is though, that he, uh, the, the, the workers who are unionized, by the way,
00:49:16.980 the campaign workers are unionized.
00:49:18.640 They get together and they complain and they say, Hey, this isn't fair.
00:49:21.860 I thought this was a living wage.
00:49:23.480 We're not getting paid a living wage, $15 an hour.
00:49:26.080 So they go to the bosses, which is now the socialist presidential candidate is now the
00:49:31.580 boss negotiating with a socialist union in a presidential campaign, which is amazing.
00:49:37.440 And they say, Hey, we need more money.
00:49:40.160 Give us more money.
00:49:40.960 And they say, all right, all right, we'll give you more money.
00:49:43.100 But only if, only if you're willing to take a cut on your healthcare benefits, you have
00:49:49.340 to contribute more to your healthcare.
00:49:51.120 That's the only way we'll give you the pay raise.
00:49:52.940 But wait a minute.
00:49:54.400 I thought healthcare was a human right.
00:49:56.500 Isn't healthcare a human right?
00:49:58.340 So now you have Bernie Sanders, a socialist exploiting his own workers.
00:50:02.660 When they complain, he then tries to take away their human rights.
00:50:07.240 This is, this is amazing.
00:50:09.200 I mean, this is the best story.
00:50:10.340 And then it gets even better because finally they come to a resolution.
00:50:15.200 I love his passion.
00:50:16.240 Finally, finally it comes to resolution.
00:50:18.060 They say, all right, guys, we'll settle on, it amounts to basically $16 an hour.
00:50:22.760 And we're not going to cut your healthcare benefits because the media found out, which
00:50:26.500 is a whole other thing.
00:50:27.460 The media finds out, right?
00:50:29.060 So then the next day, basically Rashida Tlaib, another socialist from Michigan, a member
00:50:35.660 of the democratic socialists of America.
00:50:37.060 She comes out and says, you know what, $15, that's not enough.
00:50:41.180 You got to pay $20 for a minimum wage.
00:50:43.960 $15 was good before when we started all this, but now we need $20, $20.
00:50:49.380 So Bernie Sanders, according to Rashida Tlaib and other socialists, is still exploiting his
00:50:54.740 own workers.
00:50:55.260 I love that.
00:50:56.060 And with the, and with the candidates and the way the socialists are working now, it's
00:50:59.680 almost like an auction.
00:51:01.100 I got $15, $15, do I hear $20, $20, $20, $20, $22, do I hear $22, $22, thank you, ma'am.
00:51:06.620 Do I hear $25?
00:51:07.680 I mean, it is just an auction on who is, who can be the highest bidder.
00:51:13.040 And the, and the results are the same.
00:51:16.460 Did he not have to reduce everybody?
00:51:18.860 And, and some people quit.
00:51:20.300 I believe some people were fired, were they not?
00:51:22.480 Or their hours were reduced.
00:51:23.800 He, he, he, the, the end result was, we're only going to make you work 50 hours.
00:51:28.660 And originally they wanted him to work six days a week.
00:51:31.060 They ended up settling on, we'll work, we're working 50 hours and we'll pay you a salary.
00:51:35.880 So he's not, but, but you're not going to get what you wanted initially.
00:51:40.800 I'm sorry.
00:51:41.420 We just don't have enough money.
00:51:42.580 So we're going to have to cut hours.
00:51:44.080 We're going to have to maybe cut staff.
00:51:45.400 How is it that people don't see, or is it just willful blindness?
00:51:51.780 I, I think that people, and I think we saw this with Barack Obama, and I think you see
00:51:56.760 it a little bit with Bernie Sanders, maybe not quite as passionately, but people desperately
00:52:00.260 want to believe in this guy.
00:52:02.200 They want to believe that there is some alternative answer that's going to fix all of our problems
00:52:06.820 and that he represents that, that he's somehow above it all, which we, we saw that with Barack
00:52:11.100 Obama.
00:52:11.320 People wanted to believe it.
00:52:12.780 They wanted to, even when all the facts pointed to something else, they said, I want to believe
00:52:17.520 in this guy.
00:52:18.180 And I think that there are a lot of people on the left who want to believe in Bernie Sanders.
00:52:21.780 Even when he's, according to his own logic, exploiting his own workers and denying them
00:52:25.840 human rights.
00:52:26.580 So that's ridiculous.
00:52:27.440 You have Elizabeth Warren now at times in some polls beating Bernie Sanders.
00:52:33.700 Let me take a quick break.
00:52:34.880 And then I want to talk to you about the socialism of Elizabeth Warren.
00:52:38.360 And how do you think this is going to play out?
00:52:40.680 They have a mutually assured destruction pact going on.
00:52:44.200 Don't say anything because we don't, we'll just kill each other.
00:52:47.920 And I want to, I want to get your advice on, or your thoughts on, on how you think this
00:52:52.560 is going to play out because Bernie Sanders is not going to be the candidate, just not
00:52:56.740 going to be the candidate.
00:52:58.580 But you're smiling at me.
00:52:59.800 Maybe you know something.
00:53:00.600 I don't know.
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