On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck is joined by Tom Fitton, Mike Davis, and Tulsi Gabbard to discuss the latest in the Uranus/Trump/Russia scandal. Glenn explains how Hillary Clinton and her campaign colluded with the Russians in order to get Donald Trump elected president in 2016.
00:07:05.520But as the, in the meantime, as they are burying all of this, uh, true information and leaking information to the press that brings everybody to Russia, there's another, uh, scandal that is happening.
00:08:04.020All of this stuff is happening over in Ukraine.
00:08:06.600Soon as Donald Trump calls to talk to the new Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian president says, hey, we have some real problems with Russia.
00:08:17.380He says, fine, I'll, I'll send that to you.
00:08:19.060Um, but I would really like your help in looking into all the corruption that was going on.
00:08:25.720Corruption that was perpetrated by whom?
00:08:28.120The same, the same exact players that were in president Obama's office with all of this, they panic.
00:08:39.040We, now we really have to stop Donald Trump.
00:08:42.180So they complain, they, they make up a story that he had said, I'm going to hold back your aid unless you produce this evidence.
00:08:53.300Pretty much, remember, they always do what they say we're doing pretty much exactly what Obama and his group had done in 2016.
00:09:02.580They're now accusing Trump of doing in Ukraine.
00:09:20.080The same people who manufactured a Russia hoax now impeach a sitting president for trying to expose the people who were involved in that corruption.
00:09:30.000It's projection, it's insurance, and it's a coverup that has to keep covering.
00:10:47.880And again, the press continues to listen to these people like Clapper, who is now, I think, on a payroll of one of these companies, you know, as a press commentator.
00:17:49.480It sits on your shoulders every minute of the day like some invisible weight you just can't put down.
00:17:54.800And while I can't promise you a magical lamp, I can tell you about something that's helped an awful lot of people in this audience who thought they had tried everything, including me.
00:18:42.760Tom, we were just talking in the break, getting ready, preparing for this conversation.
00:18:46.680And we're trying to remember, Stu and I were, was Judicial Watch started because of or just at the same time of the Monica Lewinsky stuff?
00:18:57.120Just before Monica Lewinsky, it was really in large measure in response to the Clinton gang playing games, selling trade mission suits, you may recall.
00:19:57.560And for, you know, the politicians like Hillary or Obama or Biden to the degree he's paying attention or is capable of paying attention, it's just a bad news cycle.
00:20:09.100It doesn't impact their lives when they make the money they're making, they run for office again.
00:20:16.360In many ways, they get credibility with their allies for the misconduct.
00:20:23.240And so without consequences, it's going to happen again and repeat itself.
00:20:28.500So let's talk about what Tulsi Gabbard, which is not in the Washington Post today, page A15 in the New York Times.
00:20:38.980I mean, they're acting like this is no big deal.
00:20:42.840And this appears to me to be the key to everything that has happened in the last 10 years.
00:21:04.240There was yet another meeting because there had been at least two more that I was aware of that had been publicly disclosed involving Barack Obama and his top people about Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:21:17.220And they went into the meeting, the intel people were prepping, saying, hey, look, Russia was probably messing around with a few things, but they weren't impacting, you know, the counting of votes and, you know, we're messing with our election systems.
00:21:33.120After, you know, that was pulled back after the meeting.
00:21:36.500They changed that conclusion or suggested it dishonestly otherwise, and then hyper focused on the Steele dossier.
00:21:45.040And what was the only issue at issue at this point?
00:22:07.140And into the beginning of the Trump administration, remember the meeting just before Comey went to visit Trump to try to get him to talk on the dossier.
00:22:20.620It was a meeting involving Joe, Obama, and Comey.
00:22:25.940And Comey went the next day, tried to ambush Trump.
00:22:31.780Trump said, I don't know anything about it.
00:22:34.020Comey rushed out of the office, started doing his memos to the file because he was spying on Trump.
00:23:57.460I think they want to do something in the Justice Department and the FBI.
00:24:01.240I don't think they've got the capacities, nor do I think the institution can be counted on to investigate themselves or even do it competently.
00:24:14.600And frankly, given the way they've handled the Epstein files, which is really basically a transparency question, you've got to wonder if they're going to be able to do something more complex.
00:24:25.520And that's why I've been calling on the president to run it himself, meaning appoint a special prosecutor, have that prosecutor report to him, use people who aren't DOJ people, use people who aren't FBI people.
00:24:40.200There are plenty of law enforcement in the federal government they can use and utilize or bring in private people temporarily to begin the criminal investigations and prosecutions.
00:24:50.000I just don't I don't I don't see it happening.
00:24:54.580We've had special counsels all the time.
00:24:58.360Every president is appointed a special counsel to look into.
00:27:18.820But is anybody modified limited hangout process doesn't work.
00:27:23.360Is anybody looking into his financial records?
00:27:26.840I mean, that seems to be, you know, follow the money that seems to would tell us something about who's funding what?
00:27:34.640How is he moving all of this money in all these shell corporations all offshore?
00:27:39.320Well, there's nothing that would prevent the release of any records they compiled in the course of this investigation.
00:27:48.060And presumably that was part of the process.
00:27:51.220And if it's available under FOIA, it should be released.
00:27:55.200And, you know, and when they say we can't release something, almost always that's a discretionary decision, meaning it's a political decision in the end, whether to release or not release information.
00:28:10.240And that's something they didn't want to really want to grapple with.
00:28:13.840And I think that's why they put out that crazy memo a few weeks ago.
00:28:16.740We don't want to release any of it because to kind of do the process is hard.
00:28:21.320But on the other hand, they went into the court in our case, Glenn, and they told them the day after the memo got out, well, we're still looking at FBI and DOJ records for potential release here.
00:28:32.480And so, you know, we'll get back to you.
00:28:46.740I mean, you know, caused by federal judges is just one way of saying, well, the law requires grand jury materials to be kept secret unless otherwise, unless there's a real significant public interest in releasing them.
00:28:58.680So it's kind of the ordinary handling of criminal records.
00:29:02.760But there are a lot of, but, you know, we're talking about, they're talking about records they, by law, they say they can't release.
00:29:10.060We still don't have an idea of what records by law they can release and haven't released.
00:29:16.740So what do you think about the concerns that MAGA is doing, really, the bidding of the Democrats who want to get Trump by any means necessary, and that we're focused on the wrong thing?
00:29:29.500If you focus on this, I personally think that what was released by the DNI on Friday is massive, because this fits into a puzzle that I've been putting together for 10 years.
00:29:40.520And it, to me, it shows everything you need to know, but maybe that's just me.
00:29:47.880What do you think about the argument that MAGA should just sit down and be quiet?
00:29:51.960Yeah, well, I mean, we've got lots of lawsuits on that, too.
00:29:57.920I mean, to me, it's kind of a straightforward response.
00:30:00.800Give us the records you promised you were going to give to us.
00:30:04.960And, you know, you know, just move on from it.
00:30:08.120You know, let's get the process in place and release the records as you promised.
00:30:12.660I mean, the president and the administration is doing a wonderful amount of work, and no one's suggesting, you know, just because they did one thing great means they don't have to do anything else that's great.
00:31:14.040So if I were President Trump and I were looking for a way forward, I'd start focusing on making sure my agencies were doing what they're supposed to do under law and just behave normally.
00:31:30.540Let's not make a Megillah where none is necessary.
00:31:33.020And, you know, because there's a lot of other things to do that we really need to get done, like holding those who want to destroy our republic accountable and tried to get me killed last year.
00:31:44.220Doesn't the release, isn't this argument about the Epstein files, release what you have?
00:31:51.640Doesn't this kind of fit into the same thing, though, that we were talking about with the DNI?
00:31:56.720Even if they release it, nobody's going to believe anything's going to be done about it.
00:32:04.040Well, the American people have a right to know what their government's up to.
00:32:07.220And it does make a difference in how people calculate who to support, how to approach public policy issues, what credence to give to arguments that politicians make as to government accountability and on a whole sorts of other issues.
00:32:25.620So if we want to have a government where Americans have no insight into how it operates and there's zero accountability, not an accountability sometimes means just knowing who was involved and there is rough justice.
00:32:43.600You know, Hillary isn't president because isn't president because of the emails that we helped release.
00:33:31.800This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:33:35.140Excited to have from Article 3 Project, the founder and president, Mike Davis, to tell us a little bit about what he knows about the director of national intelligence and what, I almost said Gabby Giffords, Tulsi Gabbard actually released on Friday and more of it coming.
00:34:01.700Is this actually going to lead to justice?
00:34:05.540I personally think, I kind of understand what, I think, what Donald Trump was saying over the last couple of weeks where he was talking to people and people like me.
00:34:49.940There is, justice is definitely coming in this case, and I'm going to make damn sure that happens very loudly, very publicly from the Article 3 project, like I've been doing for the last three years since the Mar-a-Lago raid.
00:35:05.880Over 4,500 media hits, constant opinion pieces, constant social media.
00:35:10.920What President Obama and President Biden and Brennan and Clapper and Susan Rice and so many others did to President Trump and his aides and his allies is an ongoing criminal conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C.
00:35:35.120When you politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law enforcement to go after your political opponents, that is textbook conspiracy against rights.
00:35:45.900And that's exactly what President Obama and Hillary and Hillary and all of them did back in the White House in 2016.
00:35:55.320The statute of limitations for federal felonies is generally five years, but for conspiracy, the statute of limitations does not start running until the conspiracy ends.
00:36:06.260You have to disavow the conspiracy, not only have they not disavowed the conspiracy, it's ongoing, and they continue to lie and cover it up.
00:36:15.220It's the same people that were, I mean, every time there's a fire, it seems like the same people are around that fire.
00:36:22.200The Hunter Biden laptop story, same people.
00:36:25.380The people around Joe Biden when he was forced out, forced out as president and Kamala is chosen.
00:36:33.440Same people, same people, every single time, same people.
00:36:38.520So what makes you so confident that justice is coming?
00:36:43.900So I kind of feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football.
00:36:48.540No, I get that, but I'll tell you this.
00:36:51.260I have worked very closely with President Trump and his White House counsel team and his Justice Department,
00:36:59.040including Attorney General Pam Bondi, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, FBI Director Cash Patel, Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino,
00:37:10.020Harmeet, Dillon, the head of civil rights, and so many others.
00:37:14.080I have very publicly advocated for accountability here.
00:37:19.480This last election was about lawfare and accountability in addition to immigration.
00:37:25.260So it was a big part of this election.
00:37:27.100I think this lawfare against President Trump is what put him back into the White House.
00:37:32.320If they would have, if the Democrats would have just left President Trump alone or even wrote a scathing report instead of doing these four indictments for non-crimes and bankrupt him for non-fraud,
00:38:15.880Hillary Clinton had her illegal home server as Secretary of State, not only with our nation's most classified secrets, like stuff on Benghazi, for example.
00:39:22.100And they thought that this was going to come out before the 2016 election, this foreign bribery and corruption, that maybe the Russians were going to leak it.
00:40:17.980Well, that's exactly what they did with Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020, with the CIA working with the 51 former Intel officials to say, you can't believe the Biden corruption on Hunter's laptop because this is a campaign dirty trick.
00:40:33.220And so, when Trump declassified Crossfire Hurricane, the day before he left office, he was going to publicly release it.
00:40:41.060The deep state spokes at the FBI, DOJ ran to CIA ran to the White House and said, you can't release this.
00:40:48.380You're going to reveal sources and methods.
00:40:50.940You're going to violate the Privacy Act, which is a crime.
00:40:54.760So, Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, said, okay, do your Privacy Act review and get these out there.
00:41:13.940And maybe that's why we had the Biden White House coordinates with Tish James and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and all these other Democrat operatives around the country to try to bankrupt Trump, throw him in prison for life four times for non-crimes, try to take him off the ballot.
00:41:31.700When he underfunded Trump's Secret Service protection twice and said that Trump was the gravest threat to American democracy and said to put a bullseye on him.
00:41:40.940That is what we're going to learn through all this.
00:41:44.620So, is there enough here to indict Obama or Brennan or Clapper or any of these people?
00:41:53.920Well, based upon what Tulsi Gabbard has said, it sounds like it.
00:41:58.360Now, remember, there's the issue of presidential immunity for the sitting president of the United States.
00:42:03.760So any indictment of President Obama would have to go through a presidential immunity analysis to make sure that what he's doing as his core constitutional responsibilities, he's absolutely immune.
00:42:16.820What he's doing in his official capacity, separate from core constitutional responsibilities, he's presumptively immune.
00:42:26.380What President Obama did after he left office, when he continued to conspire after he left office, it's an ongoing conspiracy.
00:42:35.100If he continued to cover it up, if he continued to conspire, he cannot claim presidential immunity.
00:42:39.900So, Mike, there are people that say, in fact, the New York Times said this is not a story because what the president was talking about was digital conspiracy to hack into the voting records, not a propaganda war.
00:43:11.200Now, the Democrats' argument is nonsense.
00:43:13.800They went after President Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment.
00:43:24.800We don't see Democrats objecting to Republican presidential wins in 1968, 2000, 2004, and 2016.
00:43:33.760Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton are in prison for objecting, right?
00:43:39.160And so they went after Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election.
00:44:04.200They continue to lie to Congress as late as 2002 in congressional testimony when there was allegations of perjury to cover up this ongoing criminal conspiracy.