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00:00:30.160 Well, back for the Monday podcast, and Stu is back, finally.

00:00:33.480 Gosh, the guy takes more vacation.

00:00:35.600 I mean, I think once in a while he'll show up for work.

00:00:39.200 That's the way it feels, Stu.

00:00:40.560 And that's the way it is.

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00:00:43.060 But let's just go to Tulsi first,

00:00:45.380 because she's declassified documents that show

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00:00:54.260 Tom Fitton is on, and also Mike Davis, all on today's podcast.

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00:03:07.140 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:10.200 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:12.580 So let's start it again at the beginning

00:03:14.580 because you're not hearing this

00:03:16.340 from anybody in the mainstream.

00:03:19.700 Barack Obama is president 2016.

00:03:22.040 Hillary Clinton is expected to be the winner.

00:03:25.600 She then starts, because it starts to get dicey,

00:03:30.080 she's looking for anything she can do

00:03:32.160 to smear Donald Trump.

00:03:34.360 She then starts to put together

00:03:36.360 the Crossfire Hurricane file.

00:03:39.940 The Crossfire Hurricane file

00:03:42.020 is completely discredited.

00:03:44.360 I mean, there's nothing in it that is real.

00:03:47.820 You know, it shows that Donald Trump 0.99

00:03:49.560 was with hookers in Russia, 0.99

00:03:51.920 that Russia, he and Russia have a bank account 0.99

00:03:54.760 that are, you know, pinging each other all the time.

00:03:57.040 Remember all of this?

00:03:58.500 Okay.

00:03:59.220 That all came from Hillary Clinton 0.86

00:04:01.040 through Crossfire Hurricane,

00:04:02.960 or sorry, Fusion GPS.

00:04:05.660 Fusion GPS puts together the Steele dossier.

00:04:08.640 When she loses, she goes to the White House

00:04:14.620 and Clapper, who is part of all of this stuff

00:04:18.540 with Hillary Clinton, goes to the White House

00:04:22.480 and Barack Obama does not want Donald Trump in.

00:04:26.640 He's got to find a way to stop Donald Trump.

00:04:29.900 Hillary Clinton is saying Russia stole the election.

00:04:32.960 Remember?

00:04:34.180 We never say they stole the election.

00:04:36.300 Yeah, you did.

00:04:37.100 All about Donald Trump.

00:04:37.880 He's not a legitimate president.

00:04:39.340 He stole it in collusion with Russia.

00:04:43.560 So Barack Obama is about to get a report,

00:04:46.740 an assessment from the intelligence community.

00:04:48.720 It's called an ICA,

00:04:50.640 Intelligence Community Assessment.

00:04:53.400 And it was about to say

00:04:54.960 there's no collusion with Russia,

00:04:56.800 that Russia was not capable

00:04:59.380 of hacking into anything

00:05:02.080 or doing anything to throw our election.

00:05:04.800 All right.

00:05:05.120 He stops that before it's printed.

00:05:09.260 He's alerted that it's coming in print form.

00:05:11.680 He says, stop, meet me in my office tomorrow.

00:05:14.680 Bring all the players in.

00:05:15.980 I want to have a talk with you.

00:05:17.740 He has a talk with them.

00:05:19.280 I need this to read this way.

00:05:23.000 That Russia did influence the election.

00:05:26.380 Then after he gets that from the he gets a new ICA saying that, yes, they did.

00:05:34.240 Now he can go to the FBI and say they did.

00:05:38.080 Here's this crossfire hurricane.

00:05:40.260 Here's this fusion GPS.

00:05:42.700 I need you to look at this from Christopher Steele.

00:05:46.780 Christopher Steele is known by the FBI.

00:05:49.260 They fired this guy.

00:05:50.740 He was somebody who was a source,

00:05:53.340 but he had so discredited himself.

00:05:56.140 He was no longer on the payroll of the FBI.

00:05:58.440 He had been discredited by the FBI.

00:06:00.180 But for some reason, they overlooked that.

00:06:04.020 To make sure that this went through,

00:06:07.480 Clapper releases the fusion GPS documents to the press.

00:06:14.400 And now it's in the press.

00:06:16.040 Now everybody's talking about it.

00:06:18.400 Now we have to do an investigation on this.

00:06:22.100 As he orders the FBI to, I want you to look into this.

00:06:25.560 I just want you to look into this fusion GPS thing.

00:06:30.720 You know, Christopher Steele dossier.

00:06:33.180 That's when, not Condoleezza, but Susan Rice writes on her last day.

00:06:39.020 He didn't tell the FBI what to do.

00:06:41.560 He was just making a suggestion that they just do what they should do.

00:06:44.860 And they would normally always do.

00:06:47.820 Okay.

00:06:48.820 All right.

00:06:50.020 So there's the seed of all of this conspiracy.

00:06:53.480 When Trump wins, panic sets in.

00:06:58.080 So they, they've got to do something.

00:07:02.940 All right.

00:07:04.020 So that's what happens.

00:07:05.520 But as the, in the meantime, as they are burying all of this, uh, true information and leaking information to the press that brings everybody to Russia, there's another, uh, scandal that is happening.

00:07:21.040 And this one is in Ukraine.

00:07:23.480 This scandal is on a totally different front.

00:07:27.360 This is at the same time.

00:07:29.240 This, all this stuff is happening.

00:07:30.900 Hunter Biden is on the board of Burisma.

00:07:33.940 Corrupt gas company raking in millions of dollars with no experience.

00:07:38.020 And the Ukrainian prosecutor is investigating that company.

00:07:43.780 And Joe Biden comes back and he brags about getting him fired by threatening to withhold a billion dollar USAID package.

00:07:52.900 Hillary Clinton's peoples are there.

00:07:55.180 Soros is there. 0.91

00:07:56.500 All the usual suspects are there.

00:07:58.940 This is a state department operation over in Ukraine.

00:08:02.040 This is USAID.

00:08:04.020 All of this stuff is happening over in Ukraine.

00:08:06.600 Soon as Donald Trump calls to talk to the new Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian president says, hey, we have some real problems with Russia.

00:08:17.380 He says, fine, I'll, I'll send that to you.

00:08:19.060 Um, but I would really like your help in looking into all the corruption that was going on.

00:08:25.720 Corruption that was perpetrated by whom?

00:08:28.120 The same, the same exact players that were in president Obama's office with all of this, they panic.

00:08:39.040 We, now we really have to stop Donald Trump.

00:08:42.180 So they complain, they, they make up a story that he had said, I'm going to hold back your aid unless you produce this evidence.

00:08:53.300 Pretty much, remember, they always do what they say we're doing pretty much exactly what Obama and his group had done in 2016.

00:09:02.580 They're now accusing Trump of doing in Ukraine.

00:09:07.660 You follow?

00:09:09.340 Does this make sense?

00:09:11.240 He's asking them, can you tell me what happened?

00:09:15.220 Uh, and he's now impeached over that.

00:09:18.980 Now let that sink in.

00:09:20.080 The same people who manufactured a Russia hoax now impeach a sitting president for trying to expose the people who were involved in that corruption.

00:09:30.000 It's projection, it's insurance, and it's a coverup that has to keep covering.

00:09:36.840 But they weren't finished.

00:09:39.220 Before the 2020 election, all of a sudden, a Hunter laptop appears.

00:09:46.360 And what do they say?

00:09:47.820 Hey, this is Russian disinformation.

00:09:51.320 When it looks like somebody's going to print it, somebody's going to run with it, what do they do?

00:09:57.660 The same exact people in the FBI and intelligence community go to the social media companies and say, this is a Russia hoax.

00:10:07.660 And then how many, how many former intelligence officers signed that letter?

00:10:13.120 Who put that letter together?

00:10:15.260 Clapper.

00:10:16.540 The same guy that was in the original meeting where Susan Rice says, nothing weird happened here.

00:10:21.940 And Clapper puts that together and says, this is all a hoax.

00:10:29.480 So now they're covering again.

00:10:32.540 All the emails, all the contracts, all the corruption, same cast of intelligence officials, sign that public letter.

00:10:43.260 This is all Russian disinformation.

00:10:45.240 Another lie.

00:10:46.780 Another operation.

00:10:47.880 And again, the press continues to listen to these people like Clapper, who is now, I think, on a payroll of one of these companies, you know, as a press commentator.

00:10:58.860 Then what happens?

00:11:02.760 Then you have President Obama, sorry, President Biden winning.

00:11:07.360 He wins.

00:11:09.480 But then what happens?

00:11:11.680 You've got to take Trump out.

00:11:13.920 So you have January 6th.

00:11:16.400 And yes, it was chaotic.

00:11:18.320 Yes, people acted shamefully.

00:11:21.660 Some of these were real anarchists.

00:11:26.240 I don't know what their political belief was, but some of them were anarchists.

00:11:31.680 But there's some questions about January 6th.

00:11:36.920 Where is the pipe bomb?

00:11:39.240 Where is the pipe bomber? 0.56

00:11:41.060 There were two pipe bombs.

00:11:42.600 One of them almost killed the vice president.

00:11:48.120 Why was she moved from the Capitol to the DNC headquarters where the pipe bomb was?

00:11:56.240 Why did that happen?

00:11:58.940 How did all of a sudden every single record from the Secret Service just disappear?

00:12:05.120 All their phone records, all the records on why she was moved, all of that just gone, just disappeared.

00:12:09.740 It happens, you know.

00:12:11.700 Why couldn't we get there was no camera on the pipe bomb?

00:12:15.380 And who placed that pipe bomb?

00:12:16.800 Why?

00:12:17.000 The camera was aimed at the same place for at least six months.

00:12:21.220 And then right before this happens, it's moved in another direction.

00:12:27.020 Right after they find the pipe bomb, it's moved back into that direction.

00:12:32.000 Why?

00:12:32.560 Why did they never look for the scaffold man, the guy who was up on the scaffolding, directing the crowd what to do?

00:12:43.480 We don't even know who that was.

00:12:44.700 We don't know his name.

00:12:45.780 How about Ray Epps?

00:12:47.000 How about the people from the FBI and intelligence community that said there were no FBI agents on the ground that day?

00:12:56.640 There were no CIA or FBI operatives on the ground.

00:13:01.000 Then it was, we don't know if there were any.

00:13:03.780 And then once they lose this election, we find out there were 25 of them on the ground.

00:13:09.600 Why?

00:13:13.080 Why did the surveillance tapes that were held back suddenly contradict the sworn testimony of the hero cop?

00:13:23.200 He wasn't even in the part of the building he said he was in.

00:13:27.180 But nobody covered that.

00:13:29.300 We did.

00:13:31.520 Same cast of characters involved in that.

00:13:35.080 A chance to do to Trump what they failed to do with Clinton and Obama,

00:13:39.080 what they failed to do under Schiff and impeachment.

00:13:42.720 Now they're trying to get him with January 6th.

00:13:45.540 But that doesn't hold.

00:13:47.100 So now what do they do?

00:13:48.800 Now the same group of people, the same judges in many cases,

00:13:54.480 they decide they're going to prosecute Donald Trump.

00:13:58.640 And they're going to try to get him thrown into jail.

00:14:02.020 Find him guilty of a crime, any crime.

00:14:04.980 You know, to protect democracy.

00:14:06.540 It's going to stop Hitler. 0.96

00:14:10.500 But listen to what these people have done.

00:14:13.500 They lied to a FISA court.

00:14:16.600 They doctored evidence and then testified at a FISA court,

00:14:22.340 which violates your rights as an American citizen.

00:14:29.000 They then falsified intelligence.

00:14:31.180 They spied on a campaign illegally.

00:14:34.480 They framed a sitting president.

00:14:36.840 Not once, not twice.

00:14:38.620 Counting still, three times.

00:14:40.900 They silenced the entire laptop story.

00:14:44.300 They controlled the press.

00:14:45.600 They opened our borders while lying about the effects and the causes.

00:14:50.940 Remember, she was going on to a fact-finding mission

00:14:54.240 to find out what was causing all these people.

00:14:56.640 They knew what was causing them.

00:14:58.100 It was their own NGOs that they were paying through government funds

00:15:03.800 to bring all those people in.

00:15:06.680 They never told you that.

00:15:08.060 In fact, they lied about it. 0.88

00:15:09.360 They told us, oh, putting people up in hotels, that's ridiculous.

00:15:13.440 That's what exactly what they did.

00:15:15.140 Then they lied about their involvement in bringing them across the borders.

00:15:18.520 They lied about the Medicare going to the illegals that we're just finding out now.

00:15:22.540 The same people who told you MS-13 gangs and gangs from Venezuela were not happening

00:15:29.060 or they were not dangerous.

00:15:30.820 They were racist tropes.

00:15:32.960 The same people that let terrorists and terror cells into our country 0.98

00:15:37.480 and then sent the exact same people back to the press to tell us that our borders were secure.

00:15:45.040 And then finally lied about the president's mental fitness.

00:15:50.500 They used the auto pin to pardon all or some of those involved in all of this.

00:15:56.280 Then when Biden was found and seen to be incompetent, he wasn't removed from office.

00:16:02.200 He was just removed from election.

00:16:05.700 No one asked any questions.

00:16:07.360 The same people, Clapper, Rice, Brennan, Obama.

00:16:11.400 And then Obama and the Klan decided to run Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:16:13.920 They decided they decided that not the people they decided to run him or I'm sorry, to run her.

00:16:19.840 And again, no questions were asked.

00:16:21.300 The press even went from she's the absolute worst to two days later.

00:16:27.200 She is the savior of our republic.

00:16:31.340 And now these same people are claiming their Fifth Amendment rights when asked a simple question.

00:16:36.980 Did you when did you know?

00:16:38.400 Did you know the president was incompetent?

00:16:40.320 That's what this is about.

00:16:46.140 This is about the biggest conspiracy.

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00:18:33.800 Now, back to the podcast.

00:18:35.640 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:39.840 Tom Fitton is here.

00:18:40.960 He's the president of Judicial Watch.

00:18:42.760 Tom, we were just talking in the break, getting ready, preparing for this conversation.

00:18:46.680 And we're trying to remember, Stu and I were, was Judicial Watch started because of or just at the same time of the Monica Lewinsky stuff?

00:18:57.120 Just before Monica Lewinsky, it was really in large measure in response to the Clinton gang playing games, selling trade mission suits, you may recall.

00:19:10.140 Oh, Jesus.

00:19:10.860 We had China connections.

00:19:13.340 Bill had his presidential legal expense trust fund that was getting shady money from abroad.

00:19:20.360 It was a mess.

00:19:21.460 I wish things had gotten better, but they just got worse.

00:19:26.940 And, you know, part of it is because we never got those people.

00:19:30.800 I mean, you guys have done such a great job at exposing all of this.

00:19:34.300 And some of the people you have, I mean, you've done some amazing work in the courtroom, too.

00:19:39.080 But it doesn't feel to the average person that anything's really changed.

00:19:43.760 Nobody ever pays a price.

00:19:45.060 Yes, and that's why it keeps on happening again.

00:19:49.120 It's, you know, all the evidence is out there.

00:19:51.540 Judicial Watch has uncovered it.

00:19:53.000 Tulsi Gabbard just released more evidence.

00:19:55.200 But what are the consequences?

00:19:57.200 Correct.

00:19:57.560 And for, you know, the politicians like Hillary or Obama or Biden to the degree he's paying attention or is capable of paying attention, it's just a bad news cycle.

00:20:09.100 It doesn't impact their lives when they make the money they're making, they run for office again.

00:20:16.360 In many ways, they get credibility with their allies for the misconduct.

00:20:23.240 And so without consequences, it's going to happen again and repeat itself.

00:20:28.500 So let's talk about what Tulsi Gabbard, which is not in the Washington Post today, page A15 in the New York Times.

00:20:38.980 I mean, they're acting like this is no big deal.

00:20:42.840 And this appears to me to be the key to everything that has happened in the last 10 years.

00:20:50.700 Do you read it that way?

00:20:53.700 I think it's another key.

00:20:55.340 You know, I kind of go back and say, you know, that there should have been prosecutions long before this.

00:21:02.020 And it's just further confirmation.

00:21:04.240 There was yet another meeting because there had been at least two more that I was aware of that had been publicly disclosed involving Barack Obama and his top people about Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:21:17.220 And they went into the meeting, the intel people were prepping, saying, hey, look, Russia was probably messing around with a few things, but they weren't impacting, you know, the counting of votes and, you know, we're messing with our election systems.

00:21:33.120 After, you know, that was pulled back after the meeting.

00:21:36.500 They changed that conclusion or suggested it dishonestly otherwise, and then hyper focused on the Steele dossier.

00:21:45.040 And what was the only issue at issue at this point?

00:21:48.600 Trump was coming into office.

00:21:50.460 Right.

00:21:50.700 And they wanted to destroy him.

00:21:52.420 Correct.

00:21:53.040 But it was these.

00:21:53.700 So it was these same people all the way through.

00:21:57.140 It's the same group of people.

00:21:58.620 It's Susan Rice, Clapper, Obama, all the way through to the end of the Biden administration.

00:22:06.420 That's right.

00:22:07.140 And into the beginning of the Trump administration, remember the meeting just before Comey went to visit Trump to try to get him to talk on the dossier.

00:22:20.620 It was a meeting involving Joe, Obama, and Comey.

00:22:25.940 And Comey went the next day, tried to ambush Trump.

00:22:31.780 Trump said, I don't know anything about it.

00:22:34.020 Comey rushed out of the office, started doing his memos to the file because he was spying on Trump.

00:22:40.040 And it didn't stop.

00:22:41.960 And, of course, you know, who was who were they nervous about, as you point out?

00:22:44.980 Joe Biden.

00:22:45.900 He had these Ukraine issues.

00:22:48.320 Everyone knew he was neck deep with Ukraine corruption.

00:22:52.100 We had the document showing that State Department officials were nervous about it.

00:22:58.080 The Russians were making fun of the Americans, trolling them. 0.99

00:23:01.660 That was the language they used because Biden went to Ukraine just before Trump came into office.

00:23:07.820 You also had all of the this.

00:23:13.360 It's weird because the State Department seemed split in half in some ways.

00:23:16.840 Some were warning the White House of this and the State Department, USAID, all that stuff.

00:23:22.540 They were also over helping overthrow the government of Ukraine a couple of times.

00:23:30.520 I mean, it's just such a horrible mix of everything wrong with the country.

00:23:39.340 So do you see this time maybe there's going to be perp walks?

00:23:45.460 People are going to maybe go to jail or not?

00:23:50.360 Are you with my honest answer?

00:23:52.120 No, no, I don't.

00:23:52.860 You say it like that and I don't.

00:23:56.580 Yeah, go ahead.

00:23:57.460 I think they want to do something in the Justice Department and the FBI.

00:24:01.240 I don't think they've got the capacities, nor do I think the institution can be counted on to investigate themselves or even do it competently.

00:24:14.600 And frankly, given the way they've handled the Epstein files, which is really basically a transparency question, you've got to wonder if they're going to be able to do something more complex.

00:24:24.900 Oh, my God.

00:24:25.520 And that's why I've been calling on the president to run it himself, meaning appoint a special prosecutor, have that prosecutor report to him, use people who aren't DOJ people, use people who aren't FBI people.

00:24:40.200 There are plenty of law enforcement in the federal government they can use and utilize or bring in private people temporarily to begin the criminal investigations and prosecutions.

00:24:50.000 I just don't I don't I don't see it happening.

00:24:54.580 We've had special counsels all the time.

00:24:58.360 Every president is appointed a special counsel to look into.

00:25:01.640 Why?

00:25:02.200 Why are we not doing it this time?

00:25:05.100 If that's the answer, that's a good question.

00:25:07.280 It's six months.

00:25:08.160 I know I compare and contrast what they did after January 6th, the Biden gang did.

00:25:14.560 You know, they they they had basically Trump in their sites or prosecution within six months.

00:25:20.700 Oh, yeah.

00:25:20.980 They were thinking about initially here.

00:25:23.840 You know, we're getting documents that have been around for 10 years.

00:25:28.240 Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit for a long time.

00:25:30.620 Well, yeah, almost 10 years.

00:25:32.240 They have been 10 years.

00:25:33.280 And we're expecting something new to happen.

00:25:37.980 I hope so.

00:25:40.780 Let's keep on keeping on.

00:25:42.620 But OK, so be naive.

00:25:44.600 What is it that you have you are pushing for on Epstein?

00:25:50.560 More than just the grand jury records, because I didn't the president just say that he was calling on the judges to release that.

00:26:03.280 Yeah. And those are transcripts.

00:26:05.460 Right.

00:26:06.400 What other information is there?

00:26:09.320 You know, we kind of go through it.

00:26:11.340 We approach this with a straightforward technique, which is just give us the records that you can give us under law.

00:26:18.900 Right.

00:26:19.360 We still haven't gotten one record under FOIA.

00:26:22.420 On these Epstein issues.

00:26:24.200 You know, we saw that mess they made early part of the year.

00:26:27.520 We said, OK, give us these records about Epstein.

00:26:29.920 You say you have give us the records showing there was an issue about getting the records out about Epstein.

00:26:36.360 You know, the FBI supposedly was accused of obstructing the release.

00:26:41.040 You've gotten zero records yet.

00:26:43.360 So I'm glad they've got one to the court.

00:26:45.700 I'm glad there's this commitment for credit, you know, for the release of, quote, credible information.

00:26:51.300 But it's a straightforward FOIA issue.

00:26:53.480 Just start releasing the records under the Freedom of Information Act.

00:26:58.520 Why?

00:26:59.340 Because it won't completely, but it will reassure many Americans that there's a legal process in place.

00:27:07.440 Here's the record.

00:27:08.860 Here's what's blacked out.

00:27:10.560 Here's the reason why.

00:27:12.280 These are how many records we have.

00:27:14.140 You can't have these.

00:27:15.360 You can't have these.

00:27:16.500 And then it's adjudicated in a court.

00:27:18.820 But is anybody modified limited hangout process doesn't work.

00:27:23.360 Is anybody looking into his financial records?

00:27:26.840 I mean, that seems to be, you know, follow the money that seems to would tell us something about who's funding what?

00:27:34.640 How is he moving all of this money in all these shell corporations all offshore?

00:27:39.320 Well, there's nothing that would prevent the release of any records they compiled in the course of this investigation.

00:27:48.060 And presumably that was part of the process.

00:27:51.220 And if it's available under FOIA, it should be released.

00:27:55.200 And, you know, and when they say we can't release something, almost always that's a discretionary decision, meaning it's a political decision in the end, whether to release or not release information.

00:28:10.240 And that's something they didn't want to really want to grapple with.

00:28:13.840 And I think that's why they put out that crazy memo a few weeks ago.

00:28:16.740 We don't want to release any of it because to kind of do the process is hard.

00:28:21.320 But on the other hand, they went into the court in our case, Glenn, and they told them the day after the memo got out, well, we're still looking at FBI and DOJ records for potential release here.

00:28:32.480 And so, you know, we'll get back to you.

00:28:35.760 Wow.

00:28:36.560 Dershowitz says that it's all of this stuff, any roadblocks in the secrecy, a lot of it has been caused by federal judges.

00:28:43.560 Have you heard that?

00:28:44.580 Is that true?

00:28:46.740 I mean, you know, caused by federal judges is just one way of saying, well, the law requires grand jury materials to be kept secret unless otherwise, unless there's a real significant public interest in releasing them.

00:28:58.680 So it's kind of the ordinary handling of criminal records.

00:29:02.760 But there are a lot of, but, you know, we're talking about, they're talking about records they, by law, they say they can't release.

00:29:10.060 We still don't have an idea of what records by law they can release and haven't released.

00:29:16.740 So what do you think about the concerns that MAGA is doing, really, the bidding of the Democrats who want to get Trump by any means necessary, and that we're focused on the wrong thing?

00:29:29.500 If you focus on this, I personally think that what was released by the DNI on Friday is massive, because this fits into a puzzle that I've been putting together for 10 years.

00:29:40.520 And it, to me, it shows everything you need to know, but maybe that's just me.

00:29:47.880 What do you think about the argument that MAGA should just sit down and be quiet?

00:29:51.960 Yeah, well, I mean, we've got lots of lawsuits on that, too.

00:29:57.920 I mean, to me, it's kind of a straightforward response.

00:30:00.800 Give us the records you promised you were going to give to us.

00:30:04.960 And, you know, you know, just move on from it.

00:30:08.120 You know, let's get the process in place and release the records as you promised.

00:30:12.660 I mean, the president and the administration is doing a wonderful amount of work, and no one's suggesting, you know, just because they did one thing great means they don't have to do anything else that's great.

00:30:25.600 Right.

00:30:26.340 And in the case of transparency, these are kind of kind of the core issues.

00:30:30.240 The Epstein issue is a big issue for the American people.

00:30:33.700 Like it or not, it's a big issue.

00:30:36.020 They promised to release records.

00:30:37.760 They haven't released it.

00:30:39.140 And there's and to a degree, it's been a problem.

00:30:42.560 It's been a problem caused by the Justice Department and the FBI who set out a memo saying we're shutting it all down. 1.00

00:30:50.420 You're all idiots for even thinking there were anything to ask about. 1.00

00:30:54.020 There was anything to ask about. 1.00

00:30:55.680 And by the way, all the evidence on which we're basing these decisions, you can't have access to.

00:31:03.240 So whose fault is that?

00:31:06.340 That there was a blowback.

00:31:09.140 The people who wrote the memo.

00:31:14.040 So if I were President Trump and I were looking for a way forward, I'd start focusing on making sure my agencies were doing what they're supposed to do under law and just behave normally.

00:31:27.240 Respond to FOIA lawsuits.

00:31:29.100 Be transparent.

00:31:30.540 Let's not make a Megillah where none is necessary.

00:31:33.020 And, you know, because there's a lot of other things to do that we really need to get done, like holding those who want to destroy our republic accountable and tried to get me killed last year.

00:31:44.220 Doesn't the release, isn't this argument about the Epstein files, release what you have?

00:31:51.640 Doesn't this kind of fit into the same thing, though, that we were talking about with the DNI?

00:31:56.720 Even if they release it, nobody's going to believe anything's going to be done about it.

00:31:59.720 So what difference does it make?

00:32:04.040 Well, the American people have a right to know what their government's up to.

00:32:07.220 And it does make a difference in how people calculate who to support, how to approach public policy issues, what credence to give to arguments that politicians make as to government accountability and on a whole sorts of other issues.

00:32:23.780 It's all part of the piece.

00:32:25.620 So if we want to have a government where Americans have no insight into how it operates and there's zero accountability, not an accountability sometimes means just knowing who was involved and there is rough justice.

00:32:43.600 You know, Hillary isn't president because isn't president because of the emails that we helped release. 1.00

00:32:52.740 Does it mean that she was prosecuted?

00:32:55.200 No, but that's just kind of a rough justice in the sense that there was a consequence politically for what happened.

00:33:02.340 I think that rough justice is actually happening for Barack Obama.

00:33:05.440 You look at his popularity, how he's perceived by his own friends and public.

00:33:10.980 I think what's true about him is really starting to come forward, too.

00:33:16.120 Tom, thank you so much for everything you guys do.

00:33:18.220 I really appreciate all the work you've done throughout the years.

00:33:20.880 Judicial Watch president, Tom Fitton.

00:33:23.120 You can follow and help at judicialwatch.org.

00:33:26.720 That's judicialwatch.org.

00:33:28.860 Tom, thanks.

00:33:29.640 Thank you.

00:33:30.120 You bet.

00:33:30.480 Bye-bye.

00:33:31.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:35.140 Excited to have from Article 3 Project, the founder and president, Mike Davis, to tell us a little bit about what he knows about the director of national intelligence and what, I almost said Gabby Giffords, Tulsi Gabbard actually released on Friday and more of it coming.

00:34:01.700 Is this actually going to lead to justice?

00:34:05.540 I personally think, I kind of understand what, I think, what Donald Trump was saying over the last couple of weeks where he was talking to people and people like me.

00:34:14.080 Hey, can you shut up about this?

00:34:16.000 This doesn't matter.

00:34:16.740 I think, knowing what Tulsi was about to release, this is ground zero.

00:34:25.880 This scoops everybody up into a grand conspiracy, at least the way I read it.

00:34:32.940 But is anything going to happen?

00:34:35.140 Are there going to be any indictments?

00:34:37.400 Where does this lead?

00:34:38.640 Mike might be able to navigate through these waters.

00:34:40.920 Hi, Mike.

00:34:41.260 How are you?

00:34:42.720 Good and well.

00:34:43.340 Thank you for having me.

00:34:44.360 You bet.

00:34:44.740 So, am I reading this right or not?

00:34:49.940 There is, justice is definitely coming in this case, and I'm going to make damn sure that happens very loudly, very publicly from the Article 3 project, like I've been doing for the last three years since the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:35:05.880 Over 4,500 media hits, constant opinion pieces, constant social media.

00:35:10.920 What President Obama and President Biden and Brennan and Clapper and Susan Rice and so many others did to President Trump and his aides and his allies is an ongoing criminal conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C.

00:35:33.120 Section 241.

00:35:35.120 When you politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law enforcement to go after your political opponents, that is textbook conspiracy against rights.

00:35:45.900 And that's exactly what President Obama and Hillary and Hillary and all of them did back in the White House in 2016. 0.53

00:35:55.320 The statute of limitations for federal felonies is generally five years, but for conspiracy, the statute of limitations does not start running until the conspiracy ends.

00:36:06.260 You have to disavow the conspiracy, not only have they not disavowed the conspiracy, it's ongoing, and they continue to lie and cover it up.

00:36:15.220 It's the same people that were, I mean, every time there's a fire, it seems like the same people are around that fire.

00:36:22.200 The Hunter Biden laptop story, same people.

00:36:25.380 The people around Joe Biden when he was forced out, forced out as president and Kamala is chosen.

00:36:33.440 Same people, same people, every single time, same people.

00:36:38.520 So what makes you so confident that justice is coming?

00:36:42.220 This time is going to be different.

00:36:43.900 So I kind of feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football.

00:36:48.540 No, I get that, but I'll tell you this.

00:36:51.260 I have worked very closely with President Trump and his White House counsel team and his Justice Department,

00:36:59.040 including Attorney General Pam Bondi, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, FBI Director Cash Patel, Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino,

00:37:10.020 Harmeet, Dillon, the head of civil rights, and so many others.

00:37:14.080 I have very publicly advocated for accountability here.

00:37:19.480 This last election was about lawfare and accountability in addition to immigration.

00:37:25.260 So it was a big part of this election.

00:37:27.100 I think this lawfare against President Trump is what put him back into the White House.

00:37:32.320 If they would have, if the Democrats would have just left President Trump alone or even wrote a scathing report instead of doing these four indictments for non-crimes and bankrupt him for non-fraud,

00:37:44.580 he would be retired in Mar-a-Lago.

00:37:46.340 He is back in the White House.

00:37:48.320 He is, the first time he ran for office, he had never run for office.

00:37:52.040 He had never served in office.

00:37:53.220 He had four years in office.

00:37:54.360 He had four years in the wilderness to reflect.

00:37:56.840 He had four years facing lawfare.

00:37:59.180 He is ready to govern and govern decisively on day one.

00:38:03.320 And his team means business.

00:38:05.240 So tell me what the Mar-a-Lago story really is in connection to what we found out on Friday.

00:38:11.660 The Mar-a-Lago story is this.

00:38:15.880 Hillary Clinton had her illegal home server as Secretary of State, not only with our nation's most classified secrets, like stuff on Benghazi, for example.

00:38:24.700 Right.

00:38:24.840 It also had the Clinton Foundation pay-for-play foreign bribery schemes.

00:38:30.100 She had her home server.

00:38:31.760 She is taking how many millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation from these shady foreign actors. 1.00

00:38:38.360 It's underfunding her lavish lifestyle, private jets and fancy travel and just general fancy lifestyle for the Clintons. 1.00

00:38:49.000 These hillbillies are living large.

00:38:52.200 And what was she doing in return for these millions of dollars as the Secretary of State?

00:38:59.200 Was she doing official acts?

00:39:00.960 Was it foreign bribery and corruption?

00:39:03.240 Guess what?

00:39:03.780 She got caught.

00:39:04.700 There was a subpoena for her server.

00:39:07.220 What did she do? 0.80

00:39:07.860 She bleached bit at the server and took hammers to the phone. 1.00

00:39:10.620 She thought she destroyed it.

00:39:11.920 She thought no one was ever going to get this evidence.

00:39:14.320 But guess what?

00:39:15.040 It was not a secure server.

00:39:17.020 And so Russia, China, our worst enemies almost certainly hacked it.

00:39:21.340 And they knew this.

00:39:22.100 And they thought that this was going to come out before the 2016 election, this foreign bribery and corruption, that maybe the Russians were going to leak it.

00:39:31.400 And so what did Hillary do? 1.00

00:39:32.860 She worked with the law firm Perkins, Coie, Mark Elias, with the Biden White House, the Biden Justice Department.

00:39:39.980 They made up the Steele dossier, Russian collusion hopes.

00:39:43.860 They lied to the federal FISA courts, the Intel court.

00:39:48.260 They lied to the court with this made up evidence.

00:39:50.500 They got spy warrants on President Trump and his team as the presidential candidate.

00:39:54.960 They continued to spy on him as the president of the United States.

00:39:58.540 They hobbled his presidency.

00:39:59.660 What they wanted to be able to do is, if this came out before 2016 election, they wanted to say, you can't believe this.

00:40:08.240 This is a campaign dirty trick.

00:40:10.920 The Trump campaign is colluding with the Russians.

00:40:14.040 Ignore this.

00:40:14.940 And you say, that sounds crazy, Mike.

00:40:16.540 How could you possibly think that?

00:40:17.980 Well, that's exactly what they did with Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020, with the CIA working with the 51 former Intel officials to say, you can't believe the Biden corruption on Hunter's laptop because this is a campaign dirty trick.

00:40:33.220 And so, when Trump declassified Crossfire Hurricane, the day before he left office, he was going to publicly release it.

00:40:41.060 The deep state spokes at the FBI, DOJ ran to CIA ran to the White House and said, you can't release this.

00:40:48.380 You're going to reveal sources and methods.

00:40:50.940 You're going to violate the Privacy Act, which is a crime.

00:40:54.760 So, Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, said, okay, do your Privacy Act review and get these out there.

00:41:01.760 That was the day Trump left office.

00:41:03.580 They didn't do the Privacy Act review.

00:41:05.440 Instead, they did the Mar-a-Lago raid to get back Crossfire Hurricane records that Trump declassified.

00:41:11.780 But guess what?

00:41:12.560 Maybe they didn't get them.

00:41:13.940 And maybe that's why we had the Biden White House coordinates with Tish James and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and all these other Democrat operatives around the country to try to bankrupt Trump, throw him in prison for life four times for non-crimes, try to take him off the ballot.

00:41:29.700 Biden tried to get Trump killed.

00:41:31.700 When he underfunded Trump's Secret Service protection twice and said that Trump was the gravest threat to American democracy and said to put a bullseye on him.

00:41:40.940 That is what we're going to learn through all this.

00:41:44.160 All right.

00:41:44.620 So, is there enough here to indict Obama or Brennan or Clapper or any of these people?

00:41:53.920 Well, based upon what Tulsi Gabbard has said, it sounds like it.

00:41:58.360 Now, remember, there's the issue of presidential immunity for the sitting president of the United States.

00:42:03.760 So any indictment of President Obama would have to go through a presidential immunity analysis to make sure that what he's doing as his core constitutional responsibilities, he's absolutely immune.

00:42:16.820 What he's doing in his official capacity, separate from core constitutional responsibilities, he's presumptively immune.

00:42:24.960 But here's the problem.

00:42:26.380 What President Obama did after he left office, when he continued to conspire after he left office, it's an ongoing conspiracy.

00:42:35.100 If he continued to cover it up, if he continued to conspire, he cannot claim presidential immunity.

00:42:39.900 So, Mike, there are people that say, in fact, the New York Times said this is not a story because what the president was talking about was digital conspiracy to hack into the voting records, not a propaganda war.

00:42:59.340 And that's what he had changed.

00:43:01.760 Instead of focusing on the digital, he instead went to a propaganda war.

00:43:06.240 And that makes all of this nonsense.

00:43:11.200 Now, the Democrats' argument is nonsense.

00:43:13.800 They went after President Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment.

00:43:24.800 We don't see Democrats objecting to Republican presidential wins in 1968, 2000, 2004, and 2016.

00:43:33.760 Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton are in prison for objecting, right?

00:43:39.160 And so they went after Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election.

00:43:44.840 What they did was a real crime.

00:43:47.360 They politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement to take out a presidential candidate,

00:43:54.720 to take out the president of the United States, to take out a former president of the United States.

00:44:01.900 They lied to a FISA court.

00:44:04.200 They continue to lie to Congress as late as 2002 in congressional testimony when there was allegations of perjury to cover up this ongoing criminal conspiracy.

00:44:16.820 They continue to lie to this day.

00:44:19.160 So these are real crimes.

00:44:20.340 I can't think of a bigger scandal in American history than politicizing and weaponizing a political party,

00:44:30.080 including their leader in the White House, politicizing and weaponizing intel agencies and law enforcement

00:44:36.180 to take out a political opponent and a sitting president and a former president.

00:44:41.460 That's what you do in third-world Marxist hellholes.

00:44:44.700 Address critics of people who say this is just political retribution, this is just a banana republic type stuff.

00:44:53.320 You're just going after Donald Trump's enemies.

00:44:56.860 We are – the Trump 47 Justice Department stood and must bring accountability because this is republic-ending stuff

00:45:08.700 by what Obama and Biden and Hillary and Biden and Hillary and Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Rice and so many others did here.

00:45:16.120 When you politicize and weaponize law enforcement and intel to go after political enemies,

00:45:20.360 you can't get worse than that.

00:45:22.080 Those are Soviet-style tactics.

00:45:26.280 That's Iranian-style tactics. 1.00

00:45:27.920 That's CCP-style tactics.

00:45:29.580 That is – those are republic-ending tactics.

00:45:32.060 And there must be accountability for this.

00:45:35.360 I hope we see it.

00:45:37.420 I know she said more stuff is coming out this weekend.

00:45:40.580 Tulsi did.

00:45:41.200 She said more stuff will be coming out this week.

00:45:43.380 That's what she said over the weekend.

00:45:45.700 Any idea when you would actually see actual movement on this, Mike?

00:45:53.060 That's a good question.

00:45:54.340 We want to – I think the Trump 47 Justice Department needs to make sure that they have their eyes

00:46:00.420 got it and their T's crossed.

00:46:02.460 They cannot fire in this year.

00:46:05.260 This has to be done correctly, but there must be accountability, and there must be grand jury

00:46:13.500 subpoenas.

00:46:14.620 There must be grand jury evidence, grand jury testimony.

00:46:18.060 Should there be a special counsel?

00:46:21.540 So I would say this.

00:46:22.980 I do not like special counsels.

00:46:25.840 Yeah.

00:46:26.020 I think they're unconstitutional.

00:46:27.760 I think that a U.S. attorney could handle this.

00:46:31.360 For example, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida could handle this case.

00:46:36.620 There was a strong nexus to Florida.

00:46:39.400 Remember, that was the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:46:40.900 They could open up a special grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida.

00:46:44.740 And there's a nominee right now on the Senate floor who needs to get confirmed.

00:46:49.020 His name is Jason Redding Quinones.

00:46:52.180 He's a friend of mine, and I think he's a judge in Florida.

00:46:55.840 He would be an ideal person to open a special grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, and bring

00:47:02.320 these, this, open this investigation.

00:47:07.520 And if the evidence leads to it, bring these indictments.

00:47:11.080 Mike Davis, Article III, Project Founder and President.

00:47:14.000 Thank you, Mike.

00:47:14.520 Appreciate it.

00:47:15.680 Thank you.

00:47:16.600 You bet.

00:47:16.840 Thank you.

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