00:00:00.000On today's podcast, we've got a packed show and we begin right away with Jim Jordan, who is just about going into a meeting with the FBI on a couple of things.
00:00:11.540And I talked to him about how do we even trust the FBI? Good news. He doesn't.
00:00:16.980So we talk about the Secret Service and the FBI, what's happening there.
00:00:22.920We also get into this wonderful story from The New York Times.
00:00:27.700It's kind of an expose on Kamala Harris and her cooking skills.
00:00:33.880I'm not making it up. Wait until you hear that.
00:00:38.620Then we also have as a guest on the program, Robbie Starbuck, who is exposing Harley Davidson.
00:00:45.920We have Tulsi Gabbard, some fascinating comments from her and Kevin Roberts.
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00:02:28.940You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:02:35.900We welcome now Congressman Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, a guy who has really done his work and proud to have him on the program.
00:02:49.020Jim Jordan, thank you for all of your work and your continuing work.
00:02:53.660You're going to sit down here with Christopher Wray here in about an hour.
00:03:03.020And we, I mean, there's so many questions here.
00:03:07.140Do you trust the FBI to give us any truth?
00:03:11.300I have a healthy skepticism that, based on, you know, this is the same Biden terrorist justice department that can't tell us who planted the pipe bombs on January 6th, who leaked the Dobbs' opinion, who put cocaine, you know, who put cocaine at the White House.
00:03:25.220So I think Americans have a healthy skepticism.
00:03:27.520But I do think, after what we saw Monday, from the former director of the Secret Service, I do believe Director Wray is going to be more forthcoming.
00:04:21.240So all those before questions are critical.
00:04:24.760The during questions, because based on what we've now put together, there's a critical five minutes when it all goes down.
00:04:31.740609, the shooter on the roof is identified.
00:04:34.740610, that information is given to the counter-sniper.
00:04:39.000So they know about the bad guy a minute later at 610.
00:04:42.120611, the shooter shoots President Trump and three other individuals.
00:04:47.520612, the counter-sniper takes him out.
00:04:49.340614, President Trump is escorted off the stage by the Secret Service.
00:04:53.000We need to know second by second, communication by communication, what was going on in that critical five minutes, the during part.
00:05:01.300And then, of course, the big question after is, why did they lie to us?
00:05:03.780Because the Secretary Mayorkas said it's absolutely false that we turned down requests from President Trump's security detail.
00:05:09.700And then five days later, they changed their stories as well.
00:05:11.700There were occasions where they asked for information and asked for help, and we turned them down.
00:05:16.620So why did you guys lie to us the day after the attack?
00:05:19.960So I think all those are critical questions.
00:05:22.040And there's a whole host of others that we hope to get answers to.
00:05:26.420Yeah, they said the Secret Service said they identified the building that the assassin used as an area of concern five days before.
00:05:36.600I know security, you know, I've had security for 20 years and very good security of Gavin DeBecker for many, many years until I brought it internally.
00:05:50.020These guys, I think, are better than the Secret Service.
00:05:53.060Listen, Jim, I would love to talk to you some point off air because I have some run-ins with the Secret Service that has prompted me to say for years on the air, the Secret Service is not protecting our president.
00:06:30.960So the other thing that I would love to hear your questioning on is we find out now, you know about the whistleblower Garrett O'Boyle from the FBI, right?
00:07:34.960The inspector general at the Justice Department is investigating this, looking at this issue of, you know, the security clearances and what we believe is retaliation against whistleblowers who come to our committee and told us about things like the moms and dads who were being investigated for showing up at school board meetings.
00:07:53.600Who've told us about, oh, if you're a pro-life Catholic, the Richmond field office was categorizing you, the FBI, Richmond field office, categorizing you as an extremist.
00:08:01.620So they come and tell us about these important issues.
00:08:04.200And then they go after the people who are giving us or the whistleblowers giving us this information, including Garrett O'Boyle.
00:08:10.360So we're working on this issue as well, because in my opening statement today, talking about that Americans, while we want the FBI to give us information on the tragedy of July 13th, there's a healthy skepticism Americans have in light of, you know, all the things they've seen from this FBI, from this Justice Department.
00:09:39.680And then I asked her, I said, were any of the times you turned down what they asked for after you had learned that Iran was trying to kill former President Trump?
00:09:48.320That seems to me to be, once you know, like, one of our enemies, one of the most dangerous countries and regimes on the planet is trying to kill the former president and likely the next president.
00:09:59.120And he asked for help and you turn it down then?
00:10:03.980And she wouldn't answer that question, which leads me to believe I think they did turn down requests from President Trump's team after they knew the Iranians were trying to kill him.
00:10:13.500I, I, and why was she on encrypted, uh, communication with the White House?
00:10:21.280I mean, when she admitted that she was using encrypted, uh, software to communicate on her private phone, is that not illegal, Jim?
00:10:30.220Well, yeah, she's, so are we, please tell me we're, right, please, it's supposed to be on the government phone.
00:10:41.080Please tell me that we're not going, because she resigned, we're taking the heat off of any of this.
00:10:48.240No, no, no, there's, I don't think, hey, that's not my intention.
00:10:51.980We got to, we got to stay full, full tilt on getting the answers.
00:10:54.540And I believe certainly the country, the people that we represent, the people we serve want the answers.
00:11:01.080It is our job as the legislative branch to do oversight.
00:11:04.600The speaker's announced he's going to put together a, a special task force to focus on this issue alone.
00:11:09.480So we have to get answers to these questions.
00:11:12.220So what we've spent two years, almost two years doing in this Congress on a host of issues, uh, whether it's the censorship effort or what have you, uh, that same kind of intensity needs to be here for, for this, uh, uh, this issue as well.
00:11:24.540I have to tell you, Jim, that, you know, um, my job, your job, all of our jobs now is really difficult because every day we look at things that don't make sense.
00:11:36.020We know we're being lied to, but we don't necessarily know why we're being lied to.
00:11:40.760Um, she just might be wildly incompetent and all of this may have been human error.
00:12:19.520And, uh, and, and time and time again, um, when we were told something by our government and we all thought, well, that doesn't really make, it turned out we were right.
00:12:29.140Remember when they told us, oh no, the Hunter Biden laptop, it's, it's Russia's information operation.
00:12:33.540They let us believe that when they knew at the time that it was authentic, the laptop was authentic.
00:12:39.260I mean, they've time and time again, they told us, there's a great, they told us that COVID came from, uh, uh, uh, you know, a bat to a penguin to a hippopotamus to people.
00:12:49.100I mean, like, no, it came from a lab, like everything.
00:12:52.760They told us that if you got the vaccine, you could, I mean, you could just go on and on.
00:12:55.580So many things are supposed to serve us, told us turn out not to be true.
00:13:00.480So no wonder there's this healthy skepticism Americans have of their government agencies.
00:13:06.260So the, uh, FBI in with the shooter uncovered a number of the searches for images of public figures of variety, including president Biden, president Trump, some limited online activity reflecting the subject state of mind.
00:14:44.420Um, Ed, frankly, Glenn, that's par for the course for the Biden administration.
00:14:49.200I can't think of one thing they've done well.
00:14:51.560I can't think of, you know, any, I mean, it's just been, it's been a disaster from the get go.
00:14:56.560I mean, this, this, you go back to the exit from Afghanistan.
00:15:00.020I mean, I think the metaphor for the Biden administration is, is those people, when that plane's taken off, people trying to jump on the wheels of that plane because they knew what was going to, what was going to happen to them.
00:15:10.320So that is, tell me one thing they've said, done, did that, that makes sense.
00:15:15.340Uh, it, it just, this is the Biden administration.
00:15:17.540So I guess I'm, I'm at the point now I'm no longer surprised at another stupid statement that comes from, from the Biden administration.
00:15:24.380Uh, I was just handed a note to remind one, one more thing.
00:15:28.060Um, and that is, uh, the, her investigation, um, the DOJ apparently found, uh, those transcripts, the audio, they just, I guess, you know, it's a crowded place.
00:15:51.940Um, yeah, I mean, this is, this, this, this, this thing's a mess.
00:15:55.960I mean, remember Jack Smith had to file with the court, Hey, the documents we did seize in that, in that case, uh, we, we changed the order, which you're not allowed to do.
00:16:04.100Some people call that tampering with evidence and they had to file a document with the court.
00:16:13.540So it's, it is, it is that crazy with these, with this administration.
00:16:18.100And, uh, I think, you know, we haven't really got into electoral politics, but I actually think all this is going to factor in.
00:16:24.980And that's why I believe, uh, president Trump and JD Vance are going to be the next president, vice president of the country.
00:16:31.380I hope so, because we are at a place where if I were in China, Iran, South, uh, I mean, North Korea, Russia, I would be licking my chops right now.
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00:18:30.740I'm doing great, even though I'm here, back here in the Imperial City of Washington, awaiting the Prime Minister of Israel, but also 20,000 protesters here in D.C., Glenn.
00:18:40.720So, we're buttoned down and, you know, ready for all the nonsense.
00:18:50.800Anyway, Kevin, you're the president of the Heritage Foundation, and there's a couple of things that I wanted to ask you about, and I want to start with the assassination.
00:19:02.560Through the Heritage Foundation, the Oversight Project, it was tweeted, we found the assassin's connections through our in-depth analysis of mobile ad data to track movements of Crook's and his associates.
00:19:18.640To do this, we tracked devices that regularly visited both Crook's home and place of work and then followed them.
00:19:27.660Someone who regularly visited Crook's home and work also visited a building in Washington, D.C. located in Gallery Place.
00:19:35.500This is the same building that has the FBI offices in the upper floors.
00:19:42.460You also tracked people that were coming in and out from Plymouth, Mass., through Boston.
00:19:52.460Well, what we presume we found, given our mission to educate the public, is that most likely Mr. Crook's phone, but just to be 100% accurate, some phone that was at his residence, so it could be another relative's, was at his residence at presumably the FBI headquarters about a year ago.
00:20:13.260But also, very importantly and troublingly, Glenn, at the site in Butler, Pennsylvania, of the attempted assassination attempt, both on July 4th and on July 8th.
00:20:25.220So at least twice before the actual day of the attempted assassination.
00:20:56.140It's most likely his, but a phone that was also at his residence, you know, every day up until that point.
00:21:03.120So the only reason I issue that caveat, Glenn, is, you know, that our mission is to educate.
00:21:08.020We always want to be as accurate as we can.
00:21:09.720And clearly the issue is it really does open questions about why law enforcement has taken so long to put the pieces together on this investigation, which opens questions not only about incompetence, but maybe even worse.
00:21:25.180None of that, of course, was allayed by the Secret Service director's testimony a couple of days ago in Congress.
00:21:53.220Whenever, you know, they've got like some little shred of evidence to impose upon all of us who are politically conservative conspiracy theories, they're really quick to do that.
00:22:02.900But when it might be the alternate, the alternate side doing this, the political left, they never quite connect the dots.
00:22:09.460And I think ultimately this this is what leads to the even broader question, which is why, in spite of all the great rank and file people who work in Secret Service and the FBI, the leadership of these agencies is rotten to the core.
00:22:22.580And this is why we are so intent on making sure that the administrative state, the deep state is dismantled in the next conservative administration.
00:22:32.900I want to get back to that here in just a second.
00:22:35.000But first, let me go to another oversight project tweet from Heritage.
00:22:40.920We have been preparing for this moment for months.
00:22:43.680Many in the media tried discrediting us.
00:22:50.660Well, what it means is that it's very difficult in at least three states, Nevada, Wisconsin and Georgia, for Joe Biden to be removed from the ballot.
00:22:58.620And the Democrats, who, of course, like to portray themselves as the party that saves democracy, have played this this bait and switch.
00:23:08.680And according to our reading of the law in those states and maybe some others, it's too late for them to change the name of their candidate.
00:23:15.720This is such a problem for them, Glenn, that Mark Elias, who is the great architect of the left's lawfare against us, you, many people in your audience, has pushed the certification deadline within the Democratic Party's nomination process up to this week so that Kamala Harris can can be officially the nominee and hopefully make these legal claims more difficult for our side.
00:23:39.140It is really amazing to me that the group that claims that democracy is on the ropes and they're fighting for democracy can actually say yesterday, I heard Chuck Schumer say, this is a grassroots movement.
00:23:56.260She's growing it from the bottom up, not the other way around.
00:23:59.560And she's really worked hard to get these delegates what she called a list of people who the party has empowered and say, what, I'm your new candidate.
00:24:15.400It is amazing how this is so anti-democratic and it doesn't seem like the Democrats, the average voter, cares about that.
00:24:25.840No. And, you know, what's interesting is rank and file Democrats have been just completely overridden by the powers that be in Washington and San Francisco and New York.
00:24:38.360And you would think just rank and file members of the Democratic Party, you know, relatively normal people out there would say enough is enough.
00:24:47.400And as I've been saying for almost a year now, this has always been part of the plan.
00:24:51.380I don't think those Democrat powers that be were ever going to listen to the will of the Democrat rank and file.
00:24:58.400They were always going to replace Biden.
00:25:00.600It's why the debate was scheduled so soon.
00:25:03.480It's why, frankly, I think that his medication, likely for Parkinson's, probably wasn't administered correctly on the day of the debate, all to put someone else in this position.
00:25:14.560But then you have to ask the question, why?
00:25:16.680Because they knew that he would be incapable of winning the general election.
00:25:19.860And so if they wanted to go through a process in the primaries where Vice President Harris and other candidates were running and she ended up being the nominee, the more power to her.
00:25:28.560But this is someone who got less than one percent of the primary vote when she ran in 2016.
00:25:33.360So I don't understand why there isn't a greater uproar by rank and file Democrats.
00:25:36.900Well, let me ask you, I mean, nothing like this has ever, ever been done.
00:25:45.360And and she doesn't have a better chance of beating Donald Trump.
00:25:50.640I mean, when people see her on the campaign trail and remember who she is and Democrats, like you said, less than one percent.
00:25:59.180She she was, I think, one of the first ones to drop out.
00:26:04.980Why are they in a rush to replace him with her?
00:26:09.160Is it because they're trapped, which I don't believe they ever feel they're trapped?
00:26:12.540I think they realized that Biden's candidacy, his likability deteriorated much faster than they thought.
00:26:21.140And I do believe that they probably preferred a different person to replace him.
00:26:25.260But she played her cards really well politically and ingratiated herself in the powers that be.
00:26:29.860But to the heart of your question, you know, looking forward, I think what we've got to do, we collectively on the center right in this country, is zealously focus on her failures in policy.
00:26:39.900She was named in the first months of the Biden presidency as the borders are what is going on at the border.
00:26:46.440But the total upending of American sovereignty, she was supposed to play an important role in foreign policy.
00:26:57.780And on top of that, probably the greatest criticism that I would mention about Miss Harris from my policy perspective is that she's grossly dishonest.
00:27:06.600And so I think if that case, that political and policy case, is prosecuted in the political sphere, that in fact the left is not going to get away with this.
00:27:17.320But I just would caution, my friend, and this starts with me and everyone at Heritage, let's not be overconfident.
00:27:25.100So it's behind, and let's understand that the media, of course, one last point on this, Glenn, the media, of course, in just a matter of days, the same media that told us that Joe Biden was fine is telling us that she is the greatest policy leader and thinker in the history of the American left.
00:27:42.700That's the thing we have to be focused on.
00:27:44.360So let me give you a story that came out today.
00:27:48.220Democratic Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren and several of her colleagues unveiled a new bill Tuesday looking to restore powers of the administrative state after the Supreme Court scaled back unelected bureaucrats power in June.
00:28:02.740Warren, along with fellow Democratic Senators Richard Blumenthal, who's a dream, in Connecticut, Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, Edward Markey of Massachusetts, and independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who typically caucuses with the Democrats, rolled out the Stop Corporate Capture Act on Tuesday, which would essentially overturn the Supreme Court's landmark June decision ending Chevron deference.
00:28:30.280Formally, a key tool for federal bureaucrats to make and enforce regulations.
00:28:36.420Chevron deference held that courts should defer to executive agencies' interpretations of statutory ambiguities in laws pertaining to given regulatory action.
00:29:21.340Oh, man, I was just came out of one of our daily meetings here at Heritage and just reminded my great colleagues, guys, don't ever accept the language of the left.
00:29:29.440And that's a really relevant point to make in response to your question, because if you want to know what the left is actually doing, listen to what they accuse us of doing.
00:29:39.500And so what they have been doing, you know, for 50 years, it's always been that way, for 50 years, I mean, really amplified during LBJ's misnomer of the great society, they've taken over the administrative state.
00:29:52.180But in addition to that, I mean, even their comment in that summary about corporations, corporate America has become aligned with the radical left.
00:30:00.060So what we're trying to do, you know, across the political right is wrest that power away from them, give it back to the states and the people, let the people decide through their elected representatives what, in fact, laws should be.
00:30:13.100You know, I grew up in a time, Glenn, when most people on the political left agreed with that, too.
00:30:18.140But now they know, because the American people are opposed to them, that they've got to operate in the shadows.
00:31:08.040I think there will be opportunities, should Trump get elected, to serve as secretary of state or secretary of defense, to be in a position to actually begin to reshape our country's foreign policy to one that Trump has advocated for all along.
00:31:23.580One that puts the interests of the American people and our country first and prevents us from getting into these unnecessary, counterproductive regime change wars and begins to enact those policies that allow our country to succeed.
00:31:39.460So, I never thought of you as secretary of state.
00:31:52.580Kamala is probably the most left candidate we've ever had.
00:31:58.520And she's being really installed by the Democratic Party.
00:32:04.820I want to talk to you about the installation here in a second.
00:32:07.260But first, what would we be getting from a Kamala Harris?
00:32:13.740You know, the Democrats themselves tout President Biden as the most, quote unquote, progressive president our country has ever seen.
00:32:23.500And this was supposed to be the guy who was going to come in and be a moderating influence on the Democratic Party, the guy who said that he would unite all Americans and serve all Americans.
00:32:34.720And from day zero, he did exactly the opposite in dividing us by race and enacting these radical, woke agendas that are hurting our children, hurting our education system, hurting the safety of our communities.
00:32:49.500I could go go on and on. You talk about these issues all the time.
00:32:55.760Really, when you look at Kamala Harris, you can expect more of the same, but worse.
00:33:03.200I think what it comes down to is just the need for us to make sure that we remind voters over and over as we head into this election, even as the Democrats have changed their course in this race,
00:33:15.400The substance, the policies, and quite frankly, the real decision makers behind the scenes who have been pulling the strings, whether it's Robbie Mook from Hillary Clinton's campaign or Tony Blinken from Biden's, you know, decades with President Biden or President Obama's lackeys in the White House.
00:33:36.020So these people who have been making the decisions over the last three and a half years, they are going to continue to call the shots, which means we can expect the same disastrous policies that we've seen and worse.
00:33:47.660I really think that Biden was forced out.
00:33:53.000I think they held something over his head, either the 25th Amendment or, you know, hey, look at your son.
00:34:00.000We may not be able to stop the impeachment proceedings, you know, because of the Hunter stuff.
00:34:04.960And they gave him a deadline of Sunday.
00:34:08.500This is all my speculation, by the way.
00:34:10.900Gave him a deadline of Sunday and he folded.
00:34:13.840And I don't I mean, it's it's clear that he's not running the country.
00:34:19.800He's not really running the presidency, because why why are you OK to be the president, but you're not there enough to run a campaign?
00:36:16.280Yes, it is the George Soroses, but but others read Hoffman's and others who are are being who are incredibly influential beyond belief because of their money and their ability to exert control.
00:36:29.800Well, fundamentally, what is at the heart of this of all of these different people that make up this cabal of woke warmongers?
00:36:36.380Of course, Hillary Clinton is the lead of that.
00:36:39.680They are people who don't care about our country and they they they don't believe in the Constitution.
00:36:46.140And they're trying to remake this country into something that that that is their utopia of some sort.
00:36:53.220So that defies the very foundation of what our country was founded upon.
00:36:57.380So you were a Democrat, you still we still would disagree on many policies, but I respect you because you're at least honest and love the country.
00:37:08.880And I truly believe that there are millions of Democrats that are all across the country that I may disagree with, but they love the country and they don't want to see it fundamentally destroyed and transformed.
00:37:21.700They don't agree with these policies and they've been so brainwashed that they don't stand up against they believe that Donald Trump is the threat to democracy and they don't see what their own party is doing.
00:37:37.600How is it they can go out and vote and then have these delegates and the superdelegates disregard that vote entirely and say, no, this is who you get.
00:37:51.520How do how are they not up in arms, Tulsi?
00:37:55.860Well, well, first of all, let's just go back.
00:37:58.020There were a number of states that did not even hold primaries and so to and those that would not allow other Democratic candidates because, you know, obviously, Bobby Kennedy was was running to be the Democratic nominee.
00:38:15.700I can't remember his name at the moment who was running, obviously, Marianne Williamson and may have been a few others who were running to be the Democratic nominee.
00:38:23.960Many states would either not allow them on the ballot or did not hold primaries at all.
00:38:30.300So the Democratic Party led by President Biden that claims to be the champions of democracy would not even allow a democratic process within their own primary.
00:38:41.320So the the the anti-democracy initiative began there and it continues through.
00:38:47.480So we shouldn't be surprised to see what they are doing today.
00:38:50.140You know, they are trying to pretend that this is not a coronation of Kamala Harris, President Obama saying, oh, you know, this will be brought to the convention and delegates will have the opportunity to choose who the next Democratic nominee for president will be delegates.
00:39:31.780So so, Pat, she didn't get to the answer that I'm looking for and I'm struggling with.
00:39:38.740How do Democrats not see that the Democratic vote has been taken from them?
00:39:50.220I mean, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, they both said in 2016 that that election was stolen, not by Donald Trump, but by Hillary Clinton.
00:40:01.520OK, who cut their legs, Bernie Sanders legs right from underneath them.
00:40:06.360And then they did the same thing with Joe Biden.
00:40:10.300This is the third time they have taken the Democratic process and short circuited it.
00:40:21.500And I think they knew this long ago that they were going to have to do this with with Joe Biden.
00:40:26.820They just don't want the people to have a vote.
00:40:29.260How is it people who are regular, normal Democrats who love the country?
00:40:35.280How is it they're putting up with this, especially from the same people that every day are screaming about democracy and how they're trying to save democracy by keeping Donald Trump out of the White House?
00:40:52.200Even when, you know, when we're all isolated to a certain extent, we all have our own circles and people who influence us and things that we watch that influence us.
00:41:02.760And sometimes people don't get outside that sphere at all and get exposed to other ideas and other theories.
00:41:11.820But you would think even if you're watching MSNBC and CNN and you're a rank and file Democrat in Iowa, you would think you would see their proclamations of saving democracy and then notice the hypocrisy from these kinds of things.
00:41:30.660Well, maybe would we be would we say no if let's say Donald Trump would have been shot and killed and we had to scramble and find somebody.
00:41:44.700Wouldn't we say no, no, no, no, we and maybe it's different because he would have been killed, but we would say there's got to be some process we have to do something.
00:41:55.740But I think we would just have flash elections, don't you think the Republicans would just try to put flash elections together?
00:42:02.740I think, of course, the convention might be in the past at that point.
00:42:09.200But yeah, I think I think we'd be concerned about the process.
00:42:13.820You can't just appoint somebody and just say, OK, the people have nothing to do with this.
00:42:19.220And I guess the problem would be I would have if if Donald Trump would have died, it would it would change things.
00:42:31.780If I found out that the party knew all of this stuff about Donald Trump and they had closed down and shut down all votes for anybody else and they had done all this stuff.
00:42:43.840I would be really upset if, for instance, if he was, you know, just crazy and couldn't put two sentences together and they knew about it and then kicked him out at the last minute so they could install their own person.