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Iowa is 170 times bigger than New York City, yet there are only 3 million people there compared to the 9 million people in New York. Yet, people stay in Iowa for generations, and you can kind of see why: it s a stable, stable place. It s the only state with parallel rivers as borders. And every July, for a whole week, cyclists traverse the divide, bumping along uneven roadways.
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Hey, welcome to the program. Got a great show for you today. Steve Dace is talking about the Iowa caucus.
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Pat Gray joins me. Tulsi Gabbard. We have a great interview with Tulsi Gabbard from New Hampshire on what's happening in her party,
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what's happening with her, why CNN and the Democrats are blocking her, and yet they're putting in candidates that have much less support.
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She has 8% in New Hampshire. They just put Deval Patrick in, who has 2% support.
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She's asked the DNC and CNN, and no one has an answer for her.
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Also, Selena Zito, she's a woman who has the finger on the pulse.
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You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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One of our reporters, Kevin Ryan, was out, and at one point he said he was at one of the train track intersections in the state.
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The crossing gate lowered, the bell rung, and the train chugged by.
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And a few minutes later, the train just stopped.
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In Chicago or New York, you'd hear screeching and honking and curse words.
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And the marigold softness on the horizon without the skyscrapers imposing their faces.
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So quiet you can almost, you feel like Adam and Eve.
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Just looking up, alone in the garden, contemplating the electric sky full of planets and stars.
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Iowa is 170, sorry, 187 times bigger than New York City.
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Yet there are only 3 million people in Iowa compared to the 9 million people in New York City.
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There are actually more feral hogs than humans in Iowa.
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Yet, people stay in Iowa for generations and you can kind of see why.
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It's the only state with parallel rivers as borders.
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On the easternmost side, along the Mississippi River, there's the world's steepest and shortest railway.
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On the other, along the Missouri River, a monument stands.
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It's the only man to die during the Lewis and Clark Great Expedition.
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And every July, for a whole week, cyclists traverse the divide, bumping along those uneven roadways.
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You did understand there are 21 million feral hogs in Iowa.
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That's roughly the population of Mexico City or San Francisco, Oakland and Phoenix and Seattle and Detroit combined.
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And if the Iowa hogs divided in two factions and occupied different sides of the states, Iowa would have two megacities.
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Classification earned only in America by Los Angeles and New York.
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They arrived in the 1500s thanks to the ham-obsessed Spaniards led by DeSoto.
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And for centuries, Native American tribes alone occupied the land.
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And before that, woolly mammoths roamed the plains.
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In the 1700s, the French showed up with their fur trade and their treaties.
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The area belonged to France until 1763, following a defeat by Spain in the French and Indian War.
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The region flopped from one nation's hand to the next until the Louisiana Purchase happened.
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When Thomas Jefferson was, they talked about impeaching him because he had the Louisiana Purchase.
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That would become the Midwestern and Southern states, including Iowa.
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Shortly after the purchase, the territory's new residents got a little possessive, and soon enough, sellers were shoving the Indians off the land that they'd occupied since the Ice Age.
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Especially back then, it was violent and cruel.
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It was just out in the middle of nowhere on the wobbly plains.
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And then came the Civil War in the 1860s, the worst kind of war, the kind that guts a nation.
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Iowa had only been a state for 15 years with a population of about half a million people.
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Yet, with only 500,000 people, 75,000 Iowan men fought for the Union.
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Now, that's the highest percentage of soldiers from any other state on both sides.
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Drown in the mud, ransacked by cannonballs, bayonet to the gut or the neck or anywhere.
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It was the cruel early stage of modern warfare.
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But America's always been a rugged and unceasing territory.
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But then came the railroads, sprouting up all across the country.
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Trains could haul produce from any part of the country to another part of the country.
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In 1901, Quaker Oats was founded in Cedar Rapids.
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Then, in 1937, Iowa State University professor John Vincent Anascoff and graduate student Clifford Berry created the first automatic electronic digital computer.
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The same state that gave us oatmeal also shoved us towards the creation, indirectly, to Grand Theft Auto V.
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And iPhones and all of the luxuries that are now our reality.
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Iowa had a thriving agriculture until World War I, then the Great Depression, then World War II.
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And everywhere, all around the world, people wanted to live in the larger cities.
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But they coped, how they could, replacing the agricultural with the industrial.
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And during the war, Iowa built tanks, rifles, airplanes, armies, armor.
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You should know, by the way, 8,389 Iowans died by the end of the war on September 2, 1945.
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Imagine surviving the war and returning to the endless fields and the oceans of sky.
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As the haze of wartime and the economy cleared, Iowans enjoyed, like the rest of America, a sense of renewal.
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They had benefited from the change of industry.
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Agriculture had always been the moneymaker, but now, Iowa was building refrigerators, farming equipment, stationery.
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To this day, Iowa still is the largest producer of eggs, pork, and corn.
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In 1958, Winnebago, the RV manufacturer, was founded in Winnebago County, Iowa.
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And since that day, your home can be wherever it is that you want it to be on this continent.
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A year after Winnebago was founded, a plane crash outside of Clear Lake, Iowa killed the music the day the music died.
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It was in Des Moines on January 20, 1982, when a 17-year-old boy grabbed a dead bat, fangs, snout, and all, and threw it at Black Sabbath.
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Even the performer Ozzy Osbourne, he grabbed the tiny little bat corpse and shoved it in his mouth and started gnashing.
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He thought it was a rubber bat until that bat kind of exploded in his mouth and he found out that it was really a rat.
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But he had started and he couldn't break the persona, so he just went on right after the show.
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He was rushed to Broadlawn's Medical Center for rabies.
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Ozzy Osbourne's bat decaptation stands as one of the most notorious moments in rock and roll history, and it was in Des Moines, Iowa.
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Then there's Brit, Iowa, home to the National Hobo Convention, as well as the Hobo Museum.
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Call the town quirky or gross for hosting such a thing, or you can see the humanity in it.
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They say the name Iowa is a reference to when Indians discovered the land.
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When they looked at the beautiful sprawling land in the hills, they simply said,
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It translates to beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
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Maybe not so much today as we go now to the polls.
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Iowa is a place that is sharply divided just within the Democratic Party,
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and it is besieged with reporters and politicians and a circus every four years.
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I don't know about you, but I'm still reeling from that Bill Kristol announcement that he's a Democrat now.
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I mean, that is the least surprising story I have ever seen.
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We have Steve Dace coming up in just a little while.
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We also have Tulsi Gabbard joining us today in hour number two.
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I'm anxious to talk to Tulsi and hear her thoughts of what's happening in the Democratic Party.
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They didn't want him last time, and they don't want him this time.
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So, have you heard about the poll, the Des Moines Register poll that comes out?
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The one that comes out every year, day before, the Sunday before, and has the final poll.
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And it was pulled back because they say there are errors, but there's all kinds of conspiracies floating.
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There was a conversation with one of the people that they polled, and I think they got his name wrong.
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They said his name wrong, or the person being polled said the name wrong.
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And so, but there were questions about that, and so they just threw out the poll.
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Even though the guy voted for Buttigieg despite, yeah, in the poll.
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Somebody who was just answering the phone raised the issue with the way the survey was being administered,
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which could have compromised the results of the poll.
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It appears a candidate's name, Buttigieg, was admitted in at least one interview in which the respondent was asked to name their preferred candidate.
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And so, because of that, because of that, they're throwing the poll away.
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Because, because I suppose if you saw the poll, you could see that Buttigieg was either way, way underperforming from all other polls,
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and then you could say, okay, well, there's a problem.
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What they said was this one incident, and they made sure that they didn't publish the poll.
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Now, there are some that are saying that this poll wasn't published because it was bad for Biden.
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Others are saying it's really good for Sanders, and that's why they didn't publish it.
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Because the Democrats don't want Sanders, and if it's bad for Biden, they don't want to lead into that.
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And for the Des Moines Register to play along with them like that is the first time in the history of the Des Moines Register they have not published this poll.
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You don't throw the poll out just because of one response?
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Unless you come out and say, we found out that this person did not ask Buttigieg in others, or he was not confident.
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What they're coming out and saying is, well, because of this one guy, we're not sure, and yada yada.
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I mean, it's remarkable to me because you're playing with fire when it comes to Bernie Sanders.
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I mean, when you threaten to burn Milwaukee to the ground, yeah, he's got a volatile base of people.
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Can we play the Bill Maher audio from the Bill Maher show this weekend?
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But I tell you why Bernie Sanders is attractive to me now, because he's the only Democrat who, like Trump, has an army.
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Who, when it gets to this other level, he's got a bunch of badass motherfuckers who will get in the streets.
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Nobody's claimed they're going to burn anything to the ground.
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There's been no violent rhetoric from Trump supporters.
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In fact, the violent rhetoric is all from the other side against Trump.
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I mean, look at what the state of Virginia did just to people who liked the Second Amendment.
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They immediately called all of those people names and bad names.
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I have more on this with Bernie Sanders coming up.
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But this is something that we talked about literally 20 years ago.
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Because today in Iowa, I think everybody's been trying to calculate who could beat Trump, who could beat Trump.
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So there's either going to be a low turnout or I think people are going to go in and go, you know what?
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I'm going to vote for the person because I can't do the calculus.
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And that could change things dramatically tonight.
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Remember, this is not a poll like you normally do.
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Usually they're boring as snot because it's usually a runaway.
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Stu said it right last week when he said, you know, this is going to be a good Super Bowl because they're evenly matched.
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Going into the fourth quarter when it's 20 to 10 and then Kansas City rattles off 21 straight points to win it like that.
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And there's no team that I would rather see lose than those people who are stationed in San Francisco.
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And I want you to, stationed is the right word.
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And I want you to know, I was very proud of the San Francisco players.
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Um, but somebody did take a big crap on the field and, uh, it was the halftime show sponsored by Pepsi.
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Now, I think just by reading the reviews and if I may quote Jeb Bush, the 2020 Super Bowl halftime show is the best Super Bowl halftime show ever.
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If Mount Everest was made entirely of Jell-O and it collapsed in some gigantic avalanche.
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There'd be less jiggling parts than were contained in that Super Bowl halftime.
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And there, and there is less Jell-O in that mountain than in Jeb Bush's spine.
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He's pandering because of the Puerto Rican thing.
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That was something you couldn't let your kids watch if you had small kids.
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J-Lo brought her 12-year-old daughter out to watch her pole dance.
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I mean, what's better than seeing mommy pole dance?
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And some of the crotch shots, like you said, and the hand placement during those shots.
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Michael Jackson, but now the hand placement, but the crotch camera, I've never seen a crotch
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So, I'm sure the teenage boys would have loved that if it wasn't also a room full of parents.
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And I'm like, yes, I'm trying to find the remote.
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The 15-year-old boys watching it on their own, they would have loved it.
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Watching it with me in the room and my wife and other parents, they...
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And mainly because all of the adults were like, what the...
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I asked Tanya halfway through if I could get a lap dance from her.
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I said, you know, I've got a dollar bill and...
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If you like I'm in a strip club, how about a lap dance?
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She said, how dare you offer me a dollar for that?
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If you hand me a bill, it better have a one on it and zeros after it.
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So she was really offended because I offered her a dollar.
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And it was a big deal and the NFL had to apologize.
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We are all watching stuff now online or our kids are exposed to things online.
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You know, I was thinking about this last night.
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We've gone from a place where when Elvis first came on TV, you couldn't show him from
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I really thought the next step, and I'm not joking, the next step is let's just give him
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That's just, hey, we've got, you know, we've got J-Lo out and she's going to sing a song
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Because, I mean, it was, there's nothing else left.
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And then every time the guys were out, they looked like dump.
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They looked like, hey, I just pulled my sweatpants on and I got my hat on and I'm sorry, I just
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I mean, the guys all looked like absolute dump.
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In addition, I don't know who any of the guys were.
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So my son invited two friends that had just moved to Texas from California.
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And yes, I let them in the house, but they're from San Diego, which I count as only partly
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So they're in and, you know, they're like, yeah, we grew up in San Diego, man.
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So I'm asking them all the way through the Super Bowl.
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They're like, no, I don't even know what that ad was about.
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And did you notice like some of the, I think, I think they were not hip enough to even understand
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I don't even know what some of these ads, I knew what they were advertising, but I had
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I have a following and everybody at the end of the ad was like, what the hell was that?
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No, there were some, there were some weird, weird ads.
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There were, there were a few, like I thought the Reese's ad was kind of funny.
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The take five thing where they had all the cliches of where you're raised by a wolf and the
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guy walks up at the end with his head up his butt.
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Chocolate, peanuts, caramel, peanut butter, pretzels.
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I just don't think the Super Bowl ad thing is a thing anymore.
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It used to be, but it's all too politically correct.
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You know, which is why I loved the Donald Trump ad.
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Listen to the Donald Trump ad and tell me they didn't intentionally just go for it.
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The Trump ad, the first one that played, and I think it's the only one.
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I'm sure there's a little trepidation in this, a little, perhaps, concern, and you shouldn't.
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We disagree with you, but we really feel you love your country.
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Okay, I want to ask you, first of all, about the debate that is happening this Friday.
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You are polling at 8%, and yet you haven't been invited to be on this debate stage, and
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Deval Patrick is polling at 2%, and he was invited.
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You know, we've put in calls and sent messages to CNN to ask them exactly that question and
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And to me, the biggest problem with all of this is CNN is making a choice to dishonor voters,
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both here in New Hampshire, who will be voting here in eight days, as well as voters across
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the country by barring them from being able to be informed about the different leading
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candidates who are running for president, hearing the voice and the message and the issues that
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So their decision to exclude me from this is a disservice to New Hampshire voters, and
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So I want to kind of get your opinion on where this is coming from.
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And Bernie Sanders on Saturday said the target is not just the Republican establishment, but
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They need to bump off because the party is trying to kill this revolution of his.
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Well, I'll tell you what I'm experiencing here.
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We are campaigning hard as we're heading towards Election Day here, and voters recognize that
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the political establishment in Washington is not serving the people of this country.
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We have a Washington that is of, by, and for the powerful elite rather than of, by, and
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So in the town halls that we're holding every day across New Hampshire and some of the bigger
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towns and the very small towns, districts that may be red or blue or a mix or whatever
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it is, what we're seeing is we have Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians
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all coming together, having a respectful conversation, because as you opened our conversation today,
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We recognize that we are fellow Americans, and we care very much for our country's future,
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and we see how the powerful elite in Washington are not working for the best interest of the
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people, and that the only way to change that is when we, the people, stand up, work side
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by side, and actually focus on putting country first, putting the people of this country first,
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and actually get real solutions to the problems that we are facing.
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So, Tulsi, there is, I mean, listening to you speak, it sounds to me very familiar.
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It sounds like what Tea Party members were saying back under Obama.
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They're not responding to what the voters are asking for, because I wanted hope and change
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And nobody was listening at all on either side, and those people were belittled, which made
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Isn't this the same kind of feeling, just with different end goals?
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One was a return to the Constitution, and in many cases with Sanders, it's, you know, an
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The sense of dissatisfaction, disenfranchisement, of being left behind, that our voices are not
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being heard, I think is something that has continuously been growing over quite some time,
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which points to the reality that the problems in Washington are not being correctly identified.
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We go through these elections, and it's like, you know, Democrats good, Republicans bad,
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And it's this hyper-partisanship about one party versus the other, and each trying to either
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maintain or regain their power that leaves the American people and our voices behind.
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And this is why I think something that you're identifying maybe happened a while back.
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It's only continued to have grown, and it is coming from across party lines.
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In our town halls, as we're talking about these issues every day, you know, everyone's nodding
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their heads and recognizing, yes, we need to fix this.
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We've got to stop seeing everything through a partisan lens and actually just focus on the
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reality that so many American families are struggling and hurting and are angry that their
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So how would you identify yourself as, I mean, you endorsed Bernie Sanders, which made Hillary
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Oh, I thought, no, I thought she loved you for that.
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I move around a lot, so I don't know, maybe I got lost.
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Well, she might, when she accepts the lawsuit and signs for the lawsuit you filed against her,
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maybe she'll give you the love letter in exchange for that.
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But are you, would you, how would you classify yourself, and is democratic socialist, is that
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a danger, do you think, or is that a good thing?
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I classify myself first and foremost as an American.
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I love our country, and I approach issues as I have throughout my time in Congress, as
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I do now, seeking to serve our country as President, Commander-in-Chief, really just
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focused on the substance of these issues, not blindly placing myself or my thought process
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into one box because I'm a Democrat, but actually actively seeking ideas, perspectives, and solutions
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coming from across party lines because this is reality.
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I'm an independent-minded person, and I call things like I see it.
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I am just as willing and able to call out my own party when they're wrong as well as when
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they're right as I am the Republican Party when they're wrong or when they're right.
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And it's this kind of clarity and putting country first that I think voters across this country
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are demanding as we're seeing some of these changes continuing to occur in this election.
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I've had several people say you will have to prove damages.
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It's going to be almost impossible to prove the damages.
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I will leave the legal machinery to the attorneys, but I'll tell you for myself, some in the media
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are portraying this as, well, this is just another news story or this is just a media stunt,
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but they don't understand that this is about my life.
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You know, I've dedicated my entire adult life to serving our country.
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After the attacks on 9-11, like so many Americans, I made that decision to serve and to protect
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the safety, security, and freedom of the American people and being willing to put my life on the
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I'm still serving in the Army National Guard now.
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And of course, I'm still serving in Congress now, seven going on eight years.
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And so for Hillary Clinton and her powerful allies in Washington to essentially try to
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portray me as a traitor to the country that I love, it takes away the very essence of who
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The oath of loyalty that I have taken to the country that I love.
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Yeah, somebody like Hillary Clinton saying that you're a Russian asset has got to make
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an impact on you, your career, but also personally, just...
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And personally for myself, but I'm actually thinking of the amazing patriots who I've served
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with, people who have also dedicated their lives, literally their lives, willing to sacrifice
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And so for her and her powerful allies to so completely devalue that honor, that loyalty,
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that sacrifice in service to our country, it cannot go unchecked.
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Is this just an old beef because of the Bernie Sanders endorsement?
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Or is there something deeper there, do you think?
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I think from my perspective, I see two things that seem to be very clear.
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Number one is that, that she hasn't let go of the fact that I resigned as vice chair of
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the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders very specifically for one reason, the vast difference in Bernie
00:38:22.040
Sanders and Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and worldview.
00:38:26.240
What kind of commander in chief they would be Bernie, largely non-interventionist, Hillary Clinton,
00:38:31.980
extremely interventionist and a neolib war hawk.
00:38:36.160
And consistently, the second thing is that throughout my time in Congress,
00:38:40.540
I have been speaking out strongly against the very foreign policy legacy that she represents
00:38:46.760
of being the world's police, waging regime change wars in other countries
00:38:50.420
that have not made us any safer and that have cost us tremendously the lives of my brothers
00:38:56.500
and sisters in uniform, as well as every American in taxpayer dollars, dollars that are coming
00:39:02.820
out of, you know, our schools, our classrooms, coming out of our infrastructure needs in our
00:39:07.600
communities, going as they are now in Afghanistan, $4 billion every month, $4 billion every month.
00:39:15.060
That's $5.5 million per hour. And I hear from people every day who question, my gosh, those
00:39:21.820
resources could be going towards opioid recovery and helping those who are struggling with substance
00:39:27.000
abuse and addiction here in New Hampshire and across the country. 130 Americans dying every day
00:39:33.000
from this opioid epidemic. So this cost is very real. And I see how Hillary Clinton and her powerful
00:39:41.340
allies are sending a message through what they are doing to me to say, if you dare cross us,
00:39:50.260
I will tell you that I think your foreign policy is actually has more in common now with this new
00:39:56.660
Republican, I shouldn't say Republican, new conservative viewpoint on let's bring people home.
00:40:04.580
This is enough is enough. And we keep making the same mistake over and over.
00:40:10.500
Let me break for 10 second station ID and back with Tulsi Gabbard with Tulsi Gabbard, who is up in
00:40:17.160
New Hampshire. She's running for president of the United States and the Democratic Party. The
00:40:21.800
Democratic Party doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with her. She's running at 8 percent
00:40:25.840
in New Hampshire. She qualifies for the CNN debate. She can't get an answer on why she wasn't asked to
00:40:33.640
intend. But instead, Deval Patrick was and he's running at 2 percent. Tulsi,
00:40:40.640
we're up against impeachment now. We haven't heard from witnesses. I think legally it was the right
00:40:52.000
call. If I'm the president's attorney, you won the case, end it. Politically, I think we should have
00:40:58.080
heard from witnesses and I would have liked to. Let's say they vote on Wednesday to acquit,
00:41:05.100
which I think they will. Should there be should the House go into John Bolton? Should we hear from
00:41:13.760
the Biden? Should we investigate any of this stuff or is it time just to walk away from this?
00:41:19.720
I've spoken a lot about this and just pointed out from shortly how shortly after Donald Trump was
00:41:29.600
elected, there were immediately members of my party who were who were pushing for impeachment,
00:41:35.780
largely because of political differences, not willing to accept the outcome of the election,
00:41:40.940
policy differences and and their criticisms of Donald Trump. And I've spoken about how dangerous
00:41:48.580
it is to have this process be driven in a very hyper partisan way, frankly, on both sides and how
00:41:56.680
not doing so in an objective way really only further divides an already divided country. It's why I made
00:42:04.620
a very conscious decision to vote present when that those votes came before the House of Representatives
00:42:11.140
to take a stand for the center against this hyper partisanship in Washington, while also introducing
00:42:17.760
a censure resolution that actually included many more of the unconstitutional actions that President
00:42:25.620
Trump has taken. And frankly, something that I think would have been more likely to gain
00:42:29.760
bipartisan support. Unless I'm hearing from people. I'm sorry, we're up against the network break.
00:42:36.360
Unless you care to stay longer, we'd love to have you longer. How can people get involved?
00:42:41.820
Your campaign. Thank you. Tulsi 2020 dot com. I look forward. I'm the best Democrat,
00:42:48.540
best candidate to be able to defeat Trump in November of 2020. Appreciate you all people from
00:42:54.640
all party lines coming and joining us in our people powered movement. Thank you so much. Tulsi Gabbard.
00:43:00.000
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:43:17.760
Hello, America. It's Monday, day of the Iowa caucus. Tomorrow is the State of the Union. I will be in
00:43:24.200
Washington, D.C. in the Senate chamber for that speech. Or is it the House chamber?
00:43:34.280
You're going to miss it then because it's in the House chamber. I'm going to be in the House chamber
00:43:37.180
watching that. You see so much that television just doesn't show you. I don't watch the president.
00:43:44.100
I'm watching all the people and the floor show. It's pretty amazing. It's going to be a historic
00:43:50.800
speech because the next day he goes in for the vote to either acquit or to convict for his impeachment.
00:43:58.880
So it's kind of a busy week, politically speaking. Then on Thursday night at 8 p.m. Eastern,
00:44:06.320
a free special. We're making it available for everyone. Look for the Blaze YouTube channel
00:44:12.160
and make sure you're watching the live special 8 p.m. on Thursday. It's the final piece,
00:44:20.880
the Ukraine, the final piece, the billion dollar question. And we have the answer for you.
00:44:28.300
And it has nothing to do with really the impeachment of Trump, although it makes sense fully now.
00:44:35.060
The impeachment of Trump has very little to do with the Bidens or any of the stuff that we have
00:44:41.880
talked about. The final piece is much bigger than that. And quite honestly, I think it's going to
00:44:48.880
shock Democrats. It will make total sense, no denying it. And I think the anybody who voted for
00:44:57.960
Barack Obama is going to be disgusted by what this story is really all about. That is Thursday,
00:45:03.220
Ukraine, the final piece, 8 p.m. Eastern. All right, let me go back now to Iowa, which happens
00:45:08.800
today. One of the people that really had their finger on the pulse during the 2016 election was
00:45:16.260
Selena Zito, because she is a reporter that doesn't listen necessarily to all the other reporters.
00:45:23.120
She's listening to the people and she she travels by car and she stops in diners and she's actually
00:45:29.600
listening. I wanted to get her view on what's happening in Iowa today. Selena, welcome to the
00:45:35.520
program. Thank you so much for having me. And I have to tell you, you're absolutely right. When you
00:45:41.200
watch the State of the Union address, no matter who the president is, watching it in the House
00:45:47.380
chamber and if you're watching it from the gallery, it's just a fascinating moment of human behavior.
00:45:53.920
It really is. You see, you see what that president is dealing with and you see the little clicks and
00:46:03.480
it's amazing. The people should, you should have another camera just on the House and the Senate
00:46:10.180
because you learn an awful lot. Anyway. Absolutely, absolutely correct.
00:46:16.880
Okay. So, Selena, tell me what you think is going on today in Iowa. What are you sensing is
00:46:26.820
we're going to be talking about tomorrow at this point?
00:46:30.360
I think tomorrow at this point, we're going to be talking about Bernie Sanders.
00:46:35.180
And I think he has a high probability of winning this, the caucus. And here's why.
00:46:43.160
You know, in 2004, when we were heading into the caucus, everyone was like, Howard Dean, Howard Dean,
00:46:49.140
Howard Dean. But what they missed, and I remember writing this or saying this, I can't remember,
00:46:55.880
it feels like 5,000 years ago, right? But I remember noticing that they didn't have the ground
00:47:02.800
support that is necessary to get the voters out to caucus. Because if anybody knows anything about
00:47:09.900
how you caucus, it's an investment of your personal time. And I don't mean like 15 minutes,
00:47:16.760
you know, waiting in line and going to the ballot box. I'm talking about three to four hours
00:47:22.140
at night. It's usually cold. It's almost always snowing. And you have to really put it out there
00:47:29.540
in terms of who you are supporting. Everyone in your precinct knows who you supported.
00:47:36.080
And if that person does not miss, hit that threshold, then there's some bartering that
00:47:43.000
goes on. And it's really sort of fascinating. But Bernie has done, and I think this has been
00:47:49.180
underreported, his campaign team has done an incredible job of getting really good people,
00:47:57.420
people trusted in their community to get voters out. And that's how you win a caucus.
00:48:03.560
Right. And when you're searching for a candidate, which it seems many of the Iowans are, they're not
00:48:13.120
satisfied with any of them. They've been looking for somebody that they think could win. They don't
00:48:20.840
have a consensus on this. They keep going back and forth. It's like going to buy a pair of shoes with
00:48:26.540
a woman in a store. They're trying on every single pair, and they're going to walk away with none of
00:48:31.060
them in the end. That's the way this kind of feels. And the only one that has true, true, deep support,
00:48:42.940
Yes, you're absolutely right. Yang is this really sort of once-in-a-lifetime interesting
00:48:51.440
candidate for the Democratic Party. He's young, he's funny, he's brilliant. His politics are
00:49:02.840
are, are, are, are, are a real mixed bag. Yeah, I was gonna say, it's kind of, yeah, very left
00:49:09.240
and, and right. Yes. Yeah. He's like, he's like, he's like a buffet of, of choices, all in one
00:49:16.080
candidate. He, well, the thing that he has that none of the other ones have is he's very aspirational.
00:49:22.060
That is that thing that, that, that Barack Obama had in 2008 that made things click. Pete Buttigieg
00:49:30.240
has tried to project that, but he doesn't, has not done that effectively because I think in the way
00:49:38.020
that he has handled religion has been negative because he pits different denominations against
00:49:45.120
each other because she doesn't like that at all. So, um, what is, what is your thought on,
00:49:54.260
we have Steve Dace coming up, who is really good on the, uh, the Iowa caucus and he's, he's, uh, you
00:50:01.960
know, a political player that's been on the, the, uh, looking at this and on the inside for, you know,
00:50:08.380
20 years. And he said, he thinks there's a chance we go to a, uh, brokered convention because the
00:50:17.420
Bernie people, he thinks will win in Iowa, then in New Hampshire and in Arizona, maybe Biden wins
00:50:25.080
in South Carolina, but then Bernie is really kind of on this, this role. Um, but whether he can get
00:50:33.500
enough, you know, enough delegates, uh, to win, we may be entering a, a brokered convention. How
00:50:40.420
likely do you think that is? So he's not wrong. You know, every four years, um, uh, the reporters
00:50:47.020
love to throw that out and say, Oh, this could happen. Actually, this is the year that it could
00:50:51.880
happen. This is actually the year that could happen. And I see a similar scenario. I see the
00:50:57.680
possibility of Bernie, Bernie winning Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada. You know, people always
00:51:04.340
talk about Nevada as being, uh, about, um, Hispanic voters. It's not about Hispanic voters. It's about
00:51:10.920
union voters. Yes. People always miss that. And these are the to the left unions. These aren't the
00:51:17.920
sort of energy unions that you find out here in Western Pennsylvania or Ohio or Colorado or Texas.
00:51:24.120
And so I think there's, you, I could see a scenario where, where Biden or where, where Bernie wins
00:51:31.420
Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada. And the, because the race goes to South Carolina, Biden will still win
00:51:37.920
South Carolina, but not at all as strong as, as people anticipated. And I can see Lou Bloomberg saying,
00:51:45.860
you know what, it's time for me to step in. I can do this. And that's when everything just sort of
00:51:52.240
blows up. The Democratic establishment and the media do not want Bernie Sanders to be the nominee.
00:51:57.740
They just don't. He's not been part of their team. He doesn't listen in the way that other
00:52:04.100
candidates, they would anticipate other candidates or nominees to listen. And he's not part of the
00:52:09.760
club. And, uh, and isn't that, isn't that a reason for those on the left to vote for him
00:52:18.940
even more? Doesn't that make their case stronger? Exactly. Right. I mean, they learn nothing from
00:52:26.000
2016. Nothing. No, absolutely nothing. You know, it's the establishment class, the chattering class,
00:52:33.260
the Democrats and the media sort of conglomerate that, that sort of has been the ones that have not
00:52:42.040
understood 2016, not just because of Trump, but also because of Bernie. And I always think it's
00:52:49.400
sort of fascinating, even among establishment Republicans, that none of these, um, political
00:52:55.060
parties have said, Oh dear God, they picked him. Maybe we, we must have been really bad. Let's be
00:53:02.800
reflective about that. Yeah. No, they don't do that. Let's just make fun of those people. They're
00:53:07.180
dumb. Yeah. So, um, if Bernie does take off, doesn't that, I mean, because Bernie is the closest
00:53:16.780
thing to Donald Trump that that side has. I mean, I just saw him on TV just a few minutes ago on one
00:53:22.880
of the news channels and I'm like, look at him. There's no way this guy could win. Just look at him.
00:53:29.240
He's 78 years old. He looks angry. He's kind of mean. Um, he's just not a politician, um, in,
00:53:38.520
in the traditional sense. And then I thought that's exactly what people said. And I said
00:53:43.640
to about Donald Trump and look where he is now. Yeah. I think that what people, what, what people
00:53:51.100
within the establishment, um, and no end or, or not part of the movement don't understand about
00:53:56.380
populism is that, uh, populism today is the more, uh, um, um, skepticism about all things big that
00:54:06.640
includes government, that includes politics, that includes media, that includes entertainment.
00:54:11.880
They haven't sort of understood, have grasped and or understood, uh, what they have done,
00:54:18.660
how they have failed over these past 30 years. And they have created what has happened within both
00:54:25.400
parties. Also, um, technology really, really, um, has added to that because in our daily lives,
00:54:32.700
think about this, we have removed the curators from our lives. What do I mean by that? Think
00:54:37.540
about Sears. When we used to shop, Sears picked everything. If you wanted to buy an appliance,
00:54:43.060
it was Kenmore. If you wanted to buy tools, it was craftsmen. We let some dude in Sears tower
00:54:49.020
decide what to do. Well, why, why didn't anybody think that politics wasn't going to fall in the
00:54:54.200
same way? Right now, the biggest department store in this country is Amazon. We have blown up.
00:55:00.000
Technology is essentially blown up. These large political parties, they're still going to exist,
00:55:04.780
but they don't have the power that they used to have. Selina, let me switch topics and sides,
00:55:10.640
um, quickly. Cause I've only got about a minute and a half, uh, the ramifications of impeachment.
00:55:16.840
How's this going to play out? It's not going to impact anything at all. If anything,
00:55:23.820
I have a story just now out of Wisconsin. If anything, it has made people more, less likely
00:55:31.320
to vote Democrat because they see this as a political maneuver and more likely to at least
00:55:38.240
consider Trump or not show up to vote at all. And that is a problem for the, for the democratic
00:55:45.120
party and they don't understand it. And they don't realize it. And every time I write a story like
00:55:50.220
this and do this reporting, they make fun of it, but they're missing it again as they missed it in
00:55:55.660
2016. Do you believe that, uh, the Sanders people, the, the real radicals that are in his,
00:56:02.500
his followers, that there could be trouble in, uh, Wisconsin this summer if they don't give it to him?
00:56:10.940
Oh yeah. I mean, I think there's going to be some sort of prop, you know, problem, how extreme those
00:56:17.820
problems get, um, just depends on who gets attracted to them. Right. Uh, but you know,
00:56:24.520
there is certainly a lot of potent potential for that to become a problem. All right. Selena,
00:56:32.380
thank you so much. We'll talk to you again. Um, if you're available, maybe we'll, maybe we'll get
00:56:36.900
some analysis from you again tomorrow. Thank you so much. Selena Zito. Uh, you can follow her on
00:56:42.500
Twitter at Selena Zito, Z-I-T-O. Um, the blaze radio network on demand.