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On today's show, John Solomon is on to tell us the whole information, all of the important information, and an honest, unbiased look at what came out yesterday from the hidden documents that all came from Russia, according to the New York Times. Also, we have Vivek Ramaswamy on to talk about what's been going on in Ohio. And we also talk about jobs. The job numbers came out today and what does that mean for the future? And we try to give you some perspective on what's happening and what's coming in our economy.
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Hey, there's a couple of really big things that are happening on today's podcast.
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First, John Solomon is on to tell us the whole information, all of the important information
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and an honest, unbiased look at what came out yesterday from the hidden documents that
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all came from Russia, according to the New York Times.
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It's really important that you understand it from all sides, and John's here to tell
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Also, we have Vivek Ramaswamy on to talk about what's been going on in Ohio.
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It really, this beating last weekend is, to me at least, more and more shocking every
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And, you know, you hear, well, you don't know all the information.
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I asked him, is there additional information that, you know, gives that more perspective?
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Wait until you hear his answer of Vivek Ramaswamy.
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And we try to give you some perspective on what's happening and what's coming in our economy,
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So here's, I want to start with this premise and I know you're the same way.
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I really don't care about the politics at this point.
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And if I'm reading the Washington Post or New York Times, they're saying, this is not
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These were all Russian tools, you know, put out to discredit Hillary Clinton.
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Tell me what was released and what you think at this point is true and not true.
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So what was put out yesterday is called the appendix, the classified appendix, the John
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Durham's final report, the special prosecutor who looked at Russiagate.
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This is something he couldn't release publicly because it involved highly classified intercepts
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These intercepts are of Russian spies, the GRU and other Russian spy agencies.
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There are multiple ways we intercept the Russian spies.
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But over the years, we've used this to make very major decisions about Russia.
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So the information is deemed to relatively be reliable.
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In fact, James Comey thought it was so reliable for this program that he used information from
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this program to rush out and wave his magic wand and decide that on his own, even though
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he wasn't the attorney general, he would clear Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing in the scandal.
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Because the Russian intercepts suggested that Loretta Lynch was part of an effort to fix the
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And so we've acted on this intelligence over the years.
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In July of 16, Durham says, the United States government intercepted information saying that
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the Russians had found out that Hillary Clinton had developed a plan and personally approved
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it to hang a fake Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign house, basically accuse him
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of being a Vladimir Putin stooge, maybe be involved in the hacking of the Democratic National
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And it was deemed so credible that John Brennan ran and briefed Barack Obama.
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And then he briefed the entire senior leadership, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, James Comey, James
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And of course, John Brennan himself was the recipient of the information.
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So his agency did it rather than investigate it, rather than use it as a reason to be dubious
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when Christopher Steele walks his dossier in or Michael Sussman walks in his Alfa Bank
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They actually decide they're going to investigate these allegations as real, even though there was
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Now, in these information, there are purported emails in which someone in the George Soros
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world writes, hey, I just got told that Hillary Clinton is going to hang the shingle and the
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One of the lines kind of sounds like me, but I have no recollection of it.
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He said, I wouldn't have used language like that.
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Jake Sullivan is, I don't remember, but I can't rule it out.
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So Jake Sullivan, the national security advisor to both Clinton and Biden over the years, has
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But as you walk through this, the intelligence community ultimately decides that this is probably
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Now, it doesn't stop them from continuing to investigate the bogus Russia collusion pact,
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but they decide that this intelligence is likely not fabricated.
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Now, the way the program works, sometimes the Russian spies will fabricate in some way the detail.
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They'll make it look like it's an email, but it's really a summary.
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But what we generally know is whatever we get from the program, it's probably accurate,
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even if it's not an exact replica of an email or an exact replica of a text message.
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And so both the intelligence committee said there's likely the FBI said that this is not fabricated.
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And history will tell us that what we intercepted actually happened.
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They went out on the news media and tried to paint Donald Trump as a fake Russian stooge
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And I want to point out the most important evidence that the early intelligence people realized
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looked like the Russians either were fortune tellers or they knew and had intercepted a real plan.
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One of the early intercepts is that what's going to happen is Hillary Clinton has approved this plan,
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and then we're reaching out to Joe Biden for Joe Biden to take the lead on this.
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Within 24 hours of that intercept, Joe Biden goes out, and he's the very first major Democrat
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to go suggest that Donald Trump's got a problem with Russia, that he's a stooge,
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and that he's going to be bad for America, and that he's owned by Vladimir Putin.
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How would they guess that and just know that that would happen?
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How would they know that the FBI was going to open up a case in a few days?
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So when the intelligence community looked back at this, the actual events of what played out
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with Hillary Clinton looks like exactly what the Russians knew in advance,
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and that's why they gave great credence to the idea that whether a specific email is accurate or not,
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the general information the Russians had intercepted likely occurred.
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Because what they're saying is they had all this stuff.
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Durham was, you know, this is under the Trump administration.
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This is just, they're just doing a hatchet job on, you know, Hillary and Obama.
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I mean, the New York Times said the reason why this is out is because he's trying to avoid
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his name being, you know, in the Epstein files or whatever.
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Well, in fairness, there were parts of the, you had to work hard because John Durham's team
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But the original report in the unclassified version had a lot of this.
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I wrote about it a couple of years ago, and I spent the last two years trying to get this declassified.
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And when I brought President Trump on my show a couple of weeks ago, I asked him, he said,
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And two weeks later, he gave it to Joe, to Chuck Grassley.
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I had been advocating for the release of the classified version for two years.
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You could tell there was something very important.
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John, Durham generally talks about the Clinton plan initiative.
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And I think now we see why it's significant, which is the FBI had a very good reason not to
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investigate Steele's dossier based on this intercept.
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It had a very good reason not to go to the FISA court and seek fake surveillance warrants.
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It had a very good reason not to bring the United States to the trauma of what we call
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And it's the same FBI that a few months more earlier had used the same Russian intelligence
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intercept program to take concrete action in the Hillary Clinton case.
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So when it's beneficial to a Democrat, they treat the Russian intelligence as real.
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And when it's detrimental to a Democrat, they try to dismiss it as Russian disinformation.
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History shows in the last few years when the New York Times tells you that something is
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true or not true on Russia, they've been generally wrong a lot.
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And when Democrats call something Russian disinformation like the Hunter Biden laptop, we should all be a
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That machinery of the New York Times and the Democrats are back to the Hunter Biden language.
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One of the things in the New York Times story this morning completely omitted.
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In the Durham report, it says that the FBI concluded that these were likely not fabrication.
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You think the New York Times would put that in their story, but I couldn't find it in there.
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John, give me the best argument on their side that should cause you to pause and go, well,
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John Durham never found an email, though he had access to subpoenas.
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I don't think he never found an email that matches the one that is attributed to the
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He did find others, and he found language in other emails that were sent that are identical,
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Now, that is something that happens a lot with the Russians.
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They know that we're spying on them, so sometimes they mix things up.
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They intentionally say this came from Joe when it came from John, so that if we do intercept
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it, we think it's misinformation, but in fact, they have it.
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So John Durham ultimately concludes that these were probably compilations of real intelligence.
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John Durham says, all right, it doesn't matter if the emails are exactly from who they say
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The intelligence in them is likely to have been true.
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So this is another reason why I felt that these were credible before I even read any
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I started reading some of the summaries of them and commentaries about them, and the
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left was immediately saying, it's old, it doesn't matter, it was 10 years ago.
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And I thought, wow, Russian disinformation and it doesn't matter anyway.
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Anyway, that's usually the sign that it's really dangerous.
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What makes this different than all of the other stuff that doesn't go anywhere?
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That will be the legacy of this era, that we've unraveled one of the worst political scandals
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in history, and we really couldn't hold anyone accountable.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Why do you say this is one of the worst political scandals in American history?
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It is, because in no other time in history have we found a U.S. intelligence and FBI apparatus
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They decided they continued to use it to spy and mislead the FISA court.
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They knew that the career officials of the Intelligence Committee didn't think Vladimir Putin was trying
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to help Donald Trump win the election, and they overruled them and rewrote the report.
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These are the most powerful tools we give the U.S. intelligence community and the FBI.
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They're supposed to only be used to go after our enemies, terrorists, intelligence threats to America.
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And in this era, from the 2016 to 2019 timeframe, we see those communities are being used to carry out
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political missions, to denigrate a political opponent, to falsely call true evidence of wrongdoing
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against a Democrat, the Hunter Biden laptop disinformation, to use the FISA court to spy on
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your political enemy, submitting to it to get that permission, unreliable and inaccurate information.
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In past times, we've had a lot of abuses in intelligence communities, things like we tortured
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The intelligence tools were used to carry out a political dirty trick designed to deceive
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the American public about who they elected and who they might elect.
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And I think that's why it's such a big scandal.
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You can get into the weeds and then it gets complicated.
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But the FBI and CIA were used to deceive the American people and to potentially thwart the
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That's something we can't allow to happen again.
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I know I say this to you every time, but you're one of the few guys I really trust.
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If you don't read Just the News every day, you should.
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They are on top of the stories that actually matter.
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He'll say things, he'll report things and I'll be like, no, I want it to be true.
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Um, and that's how, you know, you know, people ask me all the time, how, how do you, how do
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Well, I look for people that will say things, uh, on both sides, uh, and they will say, this
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And you're not always happy with what they have to say.
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How the New York Times and the Washington Post both are pretty much ignoring this.
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They're running one story saying, you know, basically the same thing they said on the
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And the mainstream media is following him doing exactly the same thing.
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You want to talk about, you know, doing the same thing and expecting different results.
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They have gone insane, um, because they're doing exactly the same thing and they're expecting
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now different results than, than, uh, I think when then what they're, you know, it hasn't
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been working for a long time and I don't think this is going to work.
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The only thing they have going for them on this one is they'll say it's old and all these
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people are in the past and it's confusing and it is, but it doesn't matter how old this is.
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I'm, you know, reading the New York times take on this, they, I would say are leaning
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One of the, one of the most shocking things in it is they claim, they basically get mad
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at Durham for putting all of this in the annex because, because it, it, it showed that it,
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because they were hiding the fact that this plan was a likely Russian intelligence, which
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is, I guess what they come up with as a summary of it.
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Like there was, what do you mean he was hiding that it was Russian intelligence?
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We, we didn't even know about these messages really until today or yesterday.
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Even if they are, even if they are pieces of other emails and Russian, uh, pieces, you
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And as John said, what those emails say happened.
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The report crate contains no proof that as Trump officials and allies have alleged in
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recent weeks, Clinton and senior U.S. officials close to President Barack Obama schemed to
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concoct erroneous Trump links to Moscow, sullying his 2016 election victory in first term.
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The existence of unverified intelligence suggesting Clinton approved a campaign plan to tie Trump
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to Russia has been publicly known since at least 2020.
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Well, because it, it does show and it's not close to President Barack Obama.
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You know, I, you know, one of the things I'm really so frustrated about and they'll never,
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they'll never do it because it'll expose the whole thing.
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You know, and I know that they have, the NSA has every keystroke of everybody's, every,
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And if you're important, you don't get dumped and cleared out.
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Um, that's what those NSA server farms are in Utah.
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I mean, it's a side of a mountain, a side of a mountain deep underneath.
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And every time I hear, well, we don't know, uh, that's a lost email.
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Now, the reason why they won't produce it is because then they have to admit, oh yeah,
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we're keeping all of that information, but you know, they have it.
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And it just pisses me off because they'll use that stuff against you and me,
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Uh, New York times said the declassified Durham report annex shows the special counsel set
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out to prove the Clinton plan emails were real, but decided they were fakes made by Russian
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You know, a little bit of truth and a little bit of lie.
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And yes, they were fakes made by Russian spies, but that's not all he said.
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They think they were cobbled together from real things.
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And again, how do you explain the wild coincidence that all those things happened?
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We have a vague Ramaswamy coming up in just a minute.
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Uh, and he was, you know, he was born and raised in Cincinnati.
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Um, and I really, I really want to know, you know, what, what is the deal with this incident?
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And is there, is there any evidence that we don't have all of the picture?
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Cause I, I got to believe if there, if that was happening, you know, people thrown around
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I'm not denying that that could happen thrown around the N word and the just, you know,
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Um, you know, I could see that, but I, I would think we would know about that.
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And I, I'm reading stuff about, you know, well, Ohio has a bad history of race relations.
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Well, you know what, if you want to go back, cause I'm blamed for slavery back in the old
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If you want to play that game, I'll play that on the opposite end.
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Uh, Ohio was a central stop on the underground railroad, tens of thousands of people.
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I think Tubman even was sending people up through Ohio.
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Uh, it, it was, it was key to the underground railroad.
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So, you know, it, it might have bad race relations right now, but historically speaking,
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Ohio played a very important role, uh, in, uh, the end of slavery and race relations.
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Um, you know, you were born in Cincinnati, uh, and you know, you're following this cause
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Um, by the way, I hear you doing really well and I'm happy to hear that.
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I, I see the city council woman, I see the, the, the, the, uh, police chief saying, well,
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you don't know all the facts and I might not know, know all the facts.
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And even if there are more facts, it doesn't justify what we saw.
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But have you seen any other facts that, that the public doesn't know about on this beat
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Glenn, I think that the basic point is common sense.
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We should not have everyday hardworking Americans who are afraid to go into their cities, particularly
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a city like Cincinnati for fear of being beaten up, for fear of assault, for fear of battery.
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And I did speak to the victim, Holly, who was assaulted.
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I spoke to her on Monday at the time I had spoken to her.
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One of the things that surprised me is that she said not a single state or local official
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had even reached out to her at that point in time.
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And that was on Monday after the Friday night of the incident, which was remarkable.
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And I reached out cause we wanted to be helpful in any way.
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My wife, Apoorva is one of the top throat surgeons in the country here in Ohio.
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But I was surprised that, frankly, not a single public official at the city level or the state
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And I can see why, in part, because there is a culture of fear around these issues relating
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In Cincinnati, so I grew up there, as you said, I was born and raised in Cincinnati, lived my
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first 18 years of my life there, went to public schools through eighth grade, public schools
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where there was frequently, you know, fights and stuff breaking out.
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I went to a Catholic high school for high school after that.
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And I will tell you, a number of the people I went to school with, grade school, high school
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who still live in Cincinnati, I live in Columbus now, but they're in Cincinnati, reach out and
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said, thank you for saying something about this, because we've noticed this issue.
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There's also fear of people being able to go to the city without the risk of violent crime.
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I think the risk for the stats right now, sadly, are one in 137 is your chance of being
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So my view is, I don't care what Democrat or Republican party you're in.
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We ought to be united around the issue of fighting violent crime in our cities.
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It is directly the result of this defund the police, the anti-cop, the anti-rule of law culture
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And I want to be a governor who's able to speak that truth in a manner that unites people,
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not divides people, but doesn't hide from that truth or sweep it under the rug either,
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because I do think that's what's going to be required to address the problem.
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You know, as a whole society, we also have to start striving to be above animals.
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I mean, you know, I watched this and it was like watching fifth graders, you know, everybody
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standing around a fight and everybody's like, fight, fight, fight.
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Um, I mean, you're not, you're not in fifth grade anymore.
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Um, I didn't see anybody, and this is what a civil society would do.
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I didn't really see anybody step in and go, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey guys, back off, back up.
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What I saw were people that were cheering it on or not involved suddenly jumping in and getting
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involved, which was terrifying when, when, when, uh, the female went down, I thought they
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I've talked to her several times in the last week, Glenn, and it is very sad.
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She's a single mother and she's somebody who on a rare occasion went to the city to have
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a good time for some, for a friend's birthday party.
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I think it's unconscionable that not only after she was knocked out, she wasn't even able to
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She had to call her own Uber to get out of there.
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And I just think that we have to think about ways we have to improve the way we're doing
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And so this is, this is, this is the kind of thing that's just sad.
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And I do think we ought to have an open conversation about, first of all, there's reports now that
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one of the assailants was let out on bond for a different crime or offense alleged earlier
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So in the month of July, earlier that same month was out on bond with somebody who previously
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And so we've got to rethink some of the breakages in our judicial system.
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We've got to rethink what it means to have more of a law enforcement presence on our
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streets, at least in predictable hours of when there's a baseball game going on, when
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there's a national music concert on a Friday night in certain areas of urban parts of our
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Does it mean that we deter crime by having just a greater law enforcement presence?
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And I think we've got to have that conversation in the open.
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And I say this as somebody, Glenn, who'll be the first person to not only recognize,
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There are so many good men and women working very hard, men and women in blue, in the Cincinnati
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Police Department, who I respect deeply for their service.
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It's not their individual fault by any stretch.
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But the point is, what kind of leadership do we bring to a city, to a state, to say that
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we do stand for not defunding the police, but funding the police, that we stand for allowing
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them to do their jobs with that fear of looking over their shoulder for being sued, and also
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to be able to have a judicial system and necessary reforms that don't just send violent criminals
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This shouldn't be at least left versus right stuff, right?
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I do think that we have had too many politicians who have tried to sweep these issues under the
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I'm going to Cincinnati actually on Monday, Glenn.
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And part of my point is I want to practice what we preach.
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I called a friend of mine who's a former NAACP Cincinnati chapter president, a former vice
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mayor of the city, who actually has been quite thoughtful on a lot of these issues as well.
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But we're going to have a conversation about how we crush crime in my hometown of Cincinnati
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and how we crush crime in cities across our state.
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And I hope Ohio sits a model nationwide for putting an end to this epidemic of lawlessness
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and violence and do it in a way that brings us together through open dialogue.
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And so that's the kind of leader I'm hoping to be for our state.
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And, you know, hopefully we're going to succeed.
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I hope that does succeed because Cincinnati is a great town, just a great, great town.
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And, you know, one of the reasons why I wouldn't is not just because of what I saw in this video,
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but the reaction from one of the city council members, from the police chief, your governor.
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Look, I've had conversations with all of these folks, you know, one on one or not all of them,
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And look, I want to be a leader who's bringing together people across the state, whether they
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like me or not, right, whether they agree with my politics or not.
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It is time for a new generation of leadership that speaks hard truth, that speaks with a spine.
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As it relates to law enforcement, we need critical out of the box solutions.
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I mean, you think about even in the 90s, you know, Clinton and Gingrich back then talked
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about the idea of equipping localities with cops to deter violence and then leaving it to
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Well, at the state level, should we be thinking about similar solutions?
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I think we ought to at least have a conversation about it, thinking about bail reforms, at least
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in common sense ways that we're not sending back violent criminals right back into the
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street to be a repeat offender when we know that's a high risk to the rest of ordinary
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law abiding Americans trying to have a good time in the cities where they live.
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So I think these are issues where you do have a lot of leaders, including governors, including
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mayors who try to sweep these issues under the rug, hope they go away.
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And when people have frustrations that they don't feel free to talk about, that's when
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And I think true cohesion comes from being able to confront these issues head on.
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And so that town hall in Cincinnati, I don't know how it's going to go.
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But I think that, you know, I did one of these in Springfield last year.
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Remember Springfield when it was in Ohio as well, the theme of national news.
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And I will tell you, Ohio have a bad history of of race relations.
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So you think about a long enough course of history.
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Ohio was part of the emancipation movement in the United States of America.
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There were there were racially charged riots in the city.
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The National Guard had to come out this back when I was in high school etched into my brain.
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But that's true in different places across the country.
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I think Ohio is a great place actually to embody the best of what our country is about.
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You know, you go to Cincinnati, you go to Columbus, you draw across, you draw a circle around it.
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You got a cross section of the country and more than California or New York or even I may say, Glenn, even more than Texas or Florida.
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The beautiful thing about Ohio is that we're a cross section of the entire United States.
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So if we're going to get these issues right for the country, Ohio ought to be ground zero for fixing it.
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And I think that's what on the positive side, I wouldn't call it a particular history of trouble.
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But I think we are a part of the country that's diverse enough, that's in every sense that you see a lot of these things bubbling up in Ohio.
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I have to tell you, I you know, you would have talked to me 30 years ago and you would have said this guy has a particular history of alcoholism and and hard to work with and yada yada.
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I'm not that guy. You just have to choose. And in an inspiring leader, DeSantis is one here in Florida, an inspiring leader, somebody who just says, no, we're going in a different direction.
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People want to be safe. They want to. I don't care what color you are, what, you know, income bracket you're in.
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You want to be safe. You want your family to be safe, your children to be able you want to be able to go into town and and, you know, have a nice night.
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You don't want to feel all of this stuff and you don't want to have bad race relations.
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I mean, some do, but I think a very, very small number do.
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And, you know, you can change things, you know, if you're leading by example, but it's going to be hard because there's a lot of people that have power that don't want to fix these.
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I'm convinced of it. They don't want to fix these problems.
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Well, that's why I'm in this, Glenn, is that I think if yesterday's politician was going to fix it, it would have happened already.
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But I think it's going to take a new generation that says, I'm not even making this about Republican versus Democrat politics.
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You know, I mean, is there a dimension to it? We could. Sure. But forget about that.
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Common sense. Right. Should you follow the law? Should you be able to enjoy your cities without fear of getting beaten up or assaulted?
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Should you be able to speak your mind freely in the open without fear of government retribution?
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These are the basic tenets of just what it means to be an American, to live in the best country known to the history of mankind.
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That's what it means to be an American. I think it's the birthright of every American to live those basic aspects of the American dream.
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And I want to at least revive the Ohio dream and the version of that in the heart of the country that represents the country.
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And you're right. People are hungry to be led at this point.
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You know, it's easy to just tell your followers the same thing they want to hear.
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And it's easy to just preach, you know, and lambast, you know, the other side.
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I'm not doing that. What I want to do is I want to speak truth.
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And there are a lot of people in the inner city of Cincinnati who are every bit as worried about this epidemic of crime that might have voted Democrat in the past that still don't feel safe.
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And the fact of the matter is we have an opportunity to bring them into our tent in our coalition as well.
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And, you know, I think it's basic common sense, safety, a good education, the economic mobility and the right to speak freely.
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And that's what we're going to fight for and revive here in the state of Ohio.
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And, you know, if you've listened to me for a long time, I don't endorse people.
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But I also don't lie to you and tell you, you know, something.
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If I lived in Ohio, I would be voting for Vivek.
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I think he is dynamic and part of a very bright future.
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Vivekforohio.com is his address where you can go find out more about his candidacy and maybe help him out as well.
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Vivek, I'd love to talk to you next week after you have had this meeting to see how it went.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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I think you could look at it and say, when you examine it a little closer,
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First of all, it seems almost all of the job gains are coming from the health care industry.
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In fact, there's a chart that shows the six-month change of employment.
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And most of the lines are either flat or slightly negative.
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There's a couple industries that have slight growth, financial activities, leisure and hospitality.
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But overall, I mean, it's almost like one of those old COVID charts with jobs where you just see all these little lines,
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and then there's this giant line that careens off the screen almost.
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Private education and health services are the industries that are showing almost all the growth in the United States right now.
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I'm so glad to hear that about private education.
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I mean, it shows that we are actively engaging in something that we know has failed us,
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The other thing, health care, I would love to know what parts of health care.
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Is that insurance or is that like doctors and nurses?
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I don't have the breakdown of that in front of me.
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I'm just kind of scanning through a bunch of the data.
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It does show without health care jobs, we've, as a nation, have lost jobs overall for three straight months.
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Part of this was a major revision to the data, which showed a loss of 255,000 jobs from the two previous months that had already been reported.
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This was happening, you know, all the last four years, much worse than that.
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You know, so you look at all that and, you know, this is a largely just, you know, discouraging report, I would say, overall.
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But, you know, we're seeing in, like, some of the prediction markets, odds for a recession are going up.
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However, what we're talking about as far as where they result is, like, 15 to 20 percent is what people are saying is a chance for a recession.
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So it's not like, again, a lot of times I think this stuff gets blown out of proportion and everybody's catastrophic or incredibly jubilant, right?
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Like, oh, gosh, everything's working, you know, we shut up all these economists, they were all wrong.
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I think what we're seeing now is it's probably too early to take a victory lap or, you know, jump off a building.
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You know, I have to tell you, I think we should take a moment here and recognize, do you remember what the economy was like, you know, six months ago, a year ago?
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Everything was trending in the wrong direction.
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Everything was trending in the wrong direction.
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For us not to be in a recession at this point, I think is pretty remarkable, especially with the amount of changes that Donald Trump is making to some of the fundamental structures of America.
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You know, look at the job numbers and then the numbers of the people he has fired from government.
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When you're talking about reducing, for instance, the Department of Education by 50 percent, that is going to affect your job numbers.
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The government jobs are down again, not to a point where it would outweigh some of the other stuff we're talking about, but it is it is down.
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And, you know, I think you can you can look at that and I think it is an important factor.
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It doesn't necessarily overwhelm the fact that these these reports for jobs have not been positive.
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Well, not because, you know, again, to me and you, you know, government jobs going away is a necessary thing.
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It might hurt the job number reports for a few months.
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But like Carol Roth has been saying for months, got to be careful.
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But I don't I don't look at I look at that as a situation that is needed.
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So I don't look at that and say, OK, well, that's, you know, I'm going to sit here and cry about government jobs going away.
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And it'll take time for people who've lost those government jobs to find their way in, you know, in another industry.
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But it is an important part to to note that that is, you know, a chunk of this picture.
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So here's what I would really like to I'd like to try to reframe this in your mind as a listener.
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We have got to stop looking at everything through the lens of the glasses that we have always used our entire life, my entire life.
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You can look at job numbers and you can say, well, it's this or this.
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Honestly, we don't know what tomorrow holds anymore because of A.I., because of this this A.I. revolution that we are on the verge of.
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And I've told you this for years, but maybe it will start to make sense to you.
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Between now and 2030, that's four years now and 2030, there will be as much change to business and life itself as there has been for the last 400 years.
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So from the moment of the Enlightenment until today, that amount of change is coming in the next four to five years.
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And that's so huge, it's hard to believe or get your arms around.
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So when we look at jobs, I mean, you know, if I were looking short term and I'm 20 and I'm like, OK, what do I do?
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I learn how to get involved in building power plants and server farms because I know that's an industry that is going to grow in the next five to 10 years.
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And A.I. is not going to be able to take over an actual build yet, maybe in the 10 years, maybe, but not right away.
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If I'm looking to do something in labor, that's the kind of labor I'm looking at.
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Um, you know, but when you're going to school, what do you go to school for health care?
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You don't necessarily, you know, make the kind of money that you used to because you've got this gigantic bill you're paying off.
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And I believe in within 10 years, I think easy in 10 years, um, there's going to be so much growth on A.I.
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That you, your job as a doctor will be more of handholding, um, than anything else.
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I mean, you still for a while will be doing surgery, but if you're a doctor, you should be doing robotic surgery right now.
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You should be looking, you should be leading, uh, the movement in robotic surgery, um, to be able to, um, do what you do faster and better.
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And using new technology, um, in, in healthcare, I think the, I think the growth and I could be wrong.
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Just, just trying to understand, let me say it this way.
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What is the biggest problem our kids are dealing with right now?
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They're dealing with nothing having meaning and they're dealing with the, whether they know it or not, they're dealing with these problems because they are, they don't have real human connection anymore.
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They're talking to each other all the time, but it's all on, you know, it's, it's all on text.
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And when you're sick, there comes a time that you're going to need human interaction and you're going to be monitored by all kinds of A.I.
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will be doing all of the, the grunt work, if you will.
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Um, but there's going to come a time where nurses are so important because they're your human connection.
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You need to look somebody in the eye who's human that can hold your hand.
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Um, the, the empathetic things are going to be a growth industry.
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I'm just thinking about these things, uh, out loud.
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Um, but sending your kid into college right now to be an accountant.
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So take it for what it's worth, but I would reconsider if you're going in for law, I would reconsider.
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Um, already, you know, the law clerks that those jobs are gone, those jobs are gone or quickly going away because you can get A.I.
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Um, you're going to need somebody to argue cases, but you're not going to need somebody that needs to go through, you know, uh, go through all of the records, all of the, uh, law check.
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You know, can you read this contract and check this contract to make sure it's right.
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You know, you just don't necessarily know that, but the attorneys do.
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And in this time, it might be better until we know what's coming to focus on trade, uh, to focus on trade schools.
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For instance, you know, building, welding, uh, healthcare, um, things that you can do, uh, even temporarily, um, or honestly things that make you more empathetic, um, instead of building debt for a world where you just don't know what's going to be.
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I mean, honestly, accounting, it's, it's, the machine's going to do it.
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You're going to need the personal interface, but the, this large pool is not going to be needed and everything is going to change.
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So when you're looking at these job numbers, what we should be talking about is that these, these numbers may actually be good looking back three years from now.
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