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00:00:00.000 and all this ai stuff you've been talking about forever and i think people are probably sick of

00:00:04.420 it but now it's actually turning into that point where people are becoming aware of it and we

00:00:10.380 really are i think at the beginning of something that we have not contemplated at all we're sitting

00:00:14.960 here like on day one of this staring into the abyss with no idea what's coming and really no

00:00:20.820 rules or foundations on how to deal with it it's it's like we're strapped to a chair

00:00:25.320 and somebody's been going you don't want to be strapped to this chair you really don't want to

00:00:29.720 be strapped to this chair and then somebody's like i'm just going to count to 10 okay just going to

00:00:34.800 count to 10 no big deal 10 9 8 7 and all of a sudden your chair starts to shake and you're being launched

00:00:42.560 into space and you have no idea and no plan to return that is how dramatic this is incredible

00:00:52.880 people are seeing little things like we talk about in today's podcast uh and we will talk more about

00:00:58.960 on monday um that the chair is starting to shake you're starting oh this is kind of weird what

00:01:04.840 did the chap gpt say what is going on what i'm telling you get out of the chair get out of the

00:01:14.240 capsule this thing is launching and as a globe you know it's so crazy is almost everything this week i

00:01:23.060 think has been disinformation you know look at the response for the train but what was that look at

00:01:31.060 the response on the balloons we started the week with aliens we might have shot down an alien aircraft

00:01:36.480 can we point out that we're all in kindergarten our entire week has been talking about trains and

00:01:41.620 balloons yeah if the wheels and kamala harris with the wheels of the bus we're doing all of them at the 1.00

00:01:46.660 same time yes but party city is not a threat that we know of at this point all right our podcast coming

00:01:57.780 up um going about your daily life when you're living in pain is like walking uphill with a backpack full

00:02:02.520 of rocks sure let's put the rocks down what do you say you can make it but you really want to keep

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00:02:24.060 i used to always be in pain remember still oh yeah like crazy all the time i started taking relief

00:02:32.080 factor for three weeks i just tried it i didn't think it was working because i was in denial i'm just

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00:03:04.120 over a million subscribers uh stu does america youtube page a few less a few less than that but

00:03:10.020 you can go and make that number a little higher if you would actually today i'm going to be doing a

00:03:13.480 special live broadcast because i feel like when i get in these moments and when you know hell is all

00:03:18.840 around us the only way to make it better is to eat junk food so i'm going to be trying a bunch of a

00:03:23.180 new uh on the market junk foods that just came out and i have probably invited you are totally

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00:03:48.580 i want to take you to now a guy who i have read is uh possibly well people are trying to draft him to

00:03:59.120 run for president and i have to tell you even if he doesn't it doesn't win or wouldn't run to try to

00:04:07.920 win but just try to get everybody to understand esg i support his candidacy uh vivek rama vivek

00:04:16.560 ramishwamy is uh with us now he is an anti-esg crusader um and uh has really made a lot of inroads

00:04:27.300 with strive.com check it out he's with us now you're also an ohio resident any thoughts on what's

00:04:34.160 happening i mean it's very sad what's happened glenn and i watched pete butich effectively imply

00:04:40.700 that this has gotten too much attention that's an affront and i think it just reveals why people

00:04:46.120 here and people across the country do not trust the establishment in washington dc and you know the

00:04:52.300 funny thing is i've seen both sides of it right i was born and raised in ohio i'm talking to you from

00:04:55.580 ohio today i also went to school with pete butich we were at harvard together we overlapped with each

00:05:00.220 other and the dirty little secret is that if this had happened in washington dc or in new york city

00:05:05.760 the response would have been dramatically different and the people here know it and that's what fuels

00:05:11.960 this cycle of distrust and unfortunately i'm sad to say the distrust exists for good reason

00:05:17.060 we need to put new leaders in charge and it's just it you know most importantly i think that

00:05:21.700 communities have been as brave as they possibly could be but it's also revealed the divide between

00:05:26.260 the aristocracy and dc and the rest of the country i mean the the pete buddha judge comments all of them

00:05:32.700 are just so dismissive and you know let's say even that he's he's not but let's just say he was right

00:05:42.400 you still don't say that you go to the town and comfort them and then give them some hard news but

00:05:50.620 they just are like was everybody looking at this for why keep driving exactly and i think it's about

00:05:57.600 self-protection because initially he was embarrassed that this was a bigger deal than expected he's just

00:06:01.920 come off another crisis with respect to grounding flights because of software glitches so he thought

00:06:07.440 this made him look bad sweep it under the rug even if the people are left to suffer as a consequence

00:06:12.620 now if that refuses to happen and thank you to the people in this town and across the country who

00:06:17.500 have stood up to say this is a big deal now is actually almost implicitly blaming the people

00:06:22.280 who are actually casting attention on what's an important situation okay i just see this as a symptom

00:06:26.960 glenn of a deeper problem in our country so uh let me let me throw another uh log on this fire here um

00:06:33.320 i checked the esg score of uh norfolk suffolk um railway they have a higher esg score than tesla does

00:06:45.020 and their e is a lower threat according to their score than their s is they're pretty good on the

00:06:54.200 environment what this is laughable glenn and it reminds me exactly of ftx on one small uh yes on

00:07:05.180 an esg scoring mechanism scoring better than exxon mobile this is a farce and you put three letter

00:07:10.920 acronyms about it what's it designed to do it's designed to hide the essence of what's actually

00:07:15.560 happening and you know these companies and working hand in glove with the government to do it are

00:07:20.840 deflecting accountability from the topics they'd rather not be scrutinized for instead talking about

00:07:26.540 environmental and social issues instead by the way using the money of everyday citizens to advance

00:07:32.260 those agendas without their knowledge and you and i know that well that is the defining fraud of our

00:07:36.740 time but that too glenn is just a symptom of a deeper cancer in this country where we've lost

00:07:43.060 our national identity so people who are supposed to run the show are not the ones who elect to run the

00:07:48.400 government are not the ones actually running the show running the actual government today that's a

00:07:52.940 new bureaucracy combined with new titans to be in the private sector and that's the real problem we

00:07:58.600 need to solve okay so tell me how you solve that vivek well look i think there's a top-down version of

00:08:05.140 this and there's a bottom-up version of it the top-down version is we need to get the state and

00:08:10.600 capitalism out of each other's hair that is fascism you combine state power with corporate power to do

00:08:16.720 what neither can do on its own that is mussolini's definition of fascism and that's the state of

00:08:22.000 affairs in modern america today i'm sorry to say it so what i say is if it is state action in disguise

00:08:27.240 if the government is using private companies either through the esg agenda or through free speech

00:08:32.620 regulation in silicon valley to do through the back door what government couldn't do directly

00:08:36.740 then those companies in those situations ought to be bound by the same constraints as the federal

00:08:41.380 government itself that includes the first amendment to the constitution of the united states if you're a

00:08:45.180 tech company for example so i have a lot of ideas for top-down fixes here i think we should make

00:08:50.420 political expression of civil right in this country so long as we have other protected classes as well

00:08:54.640 but if we're honest with ourselves glenn we also have to look ourselves in the mirror each of us do

00:08:59.300 you do i do every person listening to this does and ask ourselves what is it within us that causes

00:09:04.840 us to want to bend the knee to these new monarchs it's like the israelites why do they want to go

00:09:10.580 back and be ruled by pharaoh there's something innate in human nature about it and i just think we are so

00:09:16.040 hungry for purpose right now in america that we need a conservative movement that fills that vacuum of

00:09:22.000 purpose and identity with a vision of national identity that dilutes this poison to irrelevant

00:09:28.100 and that's an important part of the conversation i will tell you the left just heard what you said

00:09:32.780 and they would love they're going to call you absolutely a nationalist and a fascist they i mean

00:09:39.820 you know forget about the actual meaning of those words um but you a nationalist identity what are you

00:09:47.960 talking about what is what what is the vision we should all be working toward revive the ideals that set

00:09:56.720 this nation into motion basic ideas even like merit that you get ahead in this country not as the color 0.54

00:10:02.260 of your skin but as mlk said on the content of your character and contributions i mean that means getting

00:10:07.860 rid of this national cancer of affirmative action merit in government making sure the people we elect to run 0.71

00:10:13.280 the government are the ones who actually run the government not this cancerous bureaucracy that

00:10:18.740 multiplies itself like a like a metastasizing tumor i'd say meritocracy and ideas glenn the best ideas

00:10:25.320 win when no ideas are censored merit and who gets into this country i see this as a first generation

00:10:31.740 american myself my parents were immigrants we should want more people like them but not people whose 1.00

00:10:36.280 first act of entering this country is a law-breaking one those are just basic rules of the road they're not

00:10:42.360 even democratic ideas or republican ideas they are american ideas and you kind of call that nationalist

00:10:48.200 call it nationalist we then if we shore up that vision those basic ideas then and only then can

00:10:55.080 we take on the actual threats we face externally like communist china which is not going to be easy 0.90

00:11:00.340 to address and i have views on how to do this but i think we can make the sacrifices needed to address

00:11:05.320 communist china to declare independence from communist china to do the kinds of things we're going to have

00:11:09.460 to do if we shore up our national identity within and that's what i'm on a mission to do one way or another

00:11:15.200 vivek um you know you look at china i think we are marching toward war this is exactly what happened 0.99

00:11:23.940 at world war one a group of fabian socialists wanted to change all of europe get rid of the old structure

00:11:32.460 they said it was going to be great they they saw the potential for a war they went all in thinking that

00:11:39.920 it could be short and it will be enough pain to cover the collapse and the restructuring of the

00:11:46.140 world i think that's exactly what's happening and i think just like they were wrong in world war one

00:11:52.040 they're wrong this time this could be very catastrophic just catastrophic could be bad

00:11:59.480 this could be really bad glenn i have one note of optimism and i think we're working within a short

00:12:04.340 window here for that optimism xi jinping has shot himself in the foot through self-inflicted damage

00:12:10.220 to get that third term last october when he took that unprecedented third term as leader of the ccp

00:12:15.480 that opens up a short window for us i i believe to defeat china economically so that we will never have 1.00

00:12:22.340 to militarily i do not think that window is going to be open for long but i call for total declaration

00:12:27.640 of independence from china total decoupling i think that that is the declaration of independence of the

00:12:33.260 21st century because unlike the soviet union in the last cold war they never provided the shoes on 0.95

00:12:37.800 our feet or the phones in our pocket kind of powers our modern way of life but if we pull the economic

00:12:42.900 rug from under them right now they're in a vulnerable spot glenn and to me that's one of if to the extent

00:12:48.360 i pull the trigger and actually pursue this path that would be one of the big reasons to do it is i

00:12:53.180 think we're working within a short window where we can actually do that if we can get it right it will

00:12:58.760 involve sacrifice i'm going to tell you that bluntly i'm there's not a rosy picture there will be

00:13:03.560 inconveniences involved for americans but our moment demands you used world war one analogy i'll use a

00:13:08.980 world war two one yeah we need churchill not chamberlain and we don't i think we have a short

00:13:13.580 window where we don't have to go to war if we can defeat them economically by achieving independence

00:13:17.440 man you sound like a guy who is going to run for president i'm thinking about it glenn i'm thinking

00:13:22.840 about it and i'm thinking about seriously but it's not about me it's not it's not about the person it

00:13:27.300 really shouldn't be should be about the what and the why and i could care less who it is if it's a

00:13:32.640 great person who doesn't have the right agenda doesn't matter to me i think we need to define

00:13:36.640 the agenda define why we're doing what we're doing that's what i care about you and i both care about

00:13:41.920 i know that about both of us and the question of the who then just becomes a lot easier after we've

00:13:46.300 defined those things that's what i'm most i i have to tell you i i i support you 110 percent um you are

00:13:52.780 outside the system you are very successful at what you've done you have identified all of the

00:13:58.920 right problems you have worked to actually solve them yourself through the private sector i think you

00:14:05.980 get it um you know i i'm not endorsing anybody for president at all i think there's a lot of good

00:14:13.060 people out there however um the voice that you could bring to the table even if you didn't win

00:14:19.560 you could shape the platforms uh of the party i i think it's i think it's very important actually

00:14:28.060 that you run just wanted you to know what i just say i appreciate that let's rediscover what america

00:14:33.440 is that's what i care about if we do that i'm happy vivek ramaswamy thank you so much sir

00:14:38.460 appreciate it appreciate it god bless you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:14:44.620 one of the guys who has been affected by uh digital uh censorship is seth dylan from the

00:14:58.120 babylon b he's the ceo of the babylon b hey seth how are you i am good glenn it's good to be back with

00:15:04.640 thank you i you know i think i ask you this every time you're on uh but it gets worse between the

00:15:11.560 interviews that we have how are you guys dealing with satire in a world where we're shooting

00:15:19.740 ten dollar balloons down out of the sky

00:15:23.340 it is uh it is getting worse isn't it i mean uh we're we're tracking it in a sheet i may have

00:15:31.620 mentioned this before on your program but we're tracking in a sheet all of our jokes that come

00:15:35.360 true and we call you know like they're fulfilled prophecies instead of punch lines and uh and we're up

00:15:40.300 to almost 100 i think we've hit 90 now so 10 more and we did unbelievable do you have that list in

00:15:45.880 front of you can you tick off some either from memory or yeah i can pull it up um i have it on my uh

00:15:52.520 i mean that's like the simpsons on my link tree but everybody's like the simpsons they're prophets no

00:15:57.120 they're not they're comedians they're just writing jokes we're becoming the joke it is an old problem

00:16:04.180 though you know shakespeare said jesters do oft become prophets so you know and this has a long

00:16:09.700 history but um but it's happening with us really frequently we did a joke about how uh horrified

00:16:14.880 satan distances self from grammys uh after that crazy sam smith performance and then and then the

00:16:21.120 church of satan came out uh two days later with a statement saying that the that the the performance

00:16:26.560 was uh underwhelming and met and it didn't represent the case of satan i mean this kind of

00:16:33.440 stuff is happening all the time uh we did one expert say they don't know what's causing everyone

00:16:37.920 to suddenly collapse but it's definitely not that one thing and then you see a story that says

00:16:42.100 something has been killing american young people in sharply rising numbers but it's not vaccine

00:16:46.700 i mean they're jokes it's unbelievable and then the media makes them come true i do say all the

00:16:53.940 time you know imagine if your job was to write jokes that are funnier than what democrats are doing

00:16:57.620 in real life i mean that's a challenging job i know really challenging um so what is your take on

00:17:03.460 uh just the news of the week i mean can you deal with something like did we blow up the nordstream

00:17:11.680 pipeline i mean we talk about this we've had deep deep conversations in my producing meetings

00:17:21.400 every day this week do we want to know what the is the world and the population of the world served

00:17:29.860 by knowing the truth what does it mean is there is there any place that is off limits

00:17:37.760 hmm um for for comedy for what we do yeah for comedy we've decided there is no limit for us

00:17:45.860 honestly i think you know in the in the conversations about what you should and shouldn't

00:17:51.580 joke about the people that are usually telling you oh there's these things that you shouldn't make

00:17:55.060 jokes about that those are their sacred cows that they want to protect and that is the funniest

00:17:59.100 stuff to joke about those are the things that you have to joke oh yeah i know someone doesn't want

00:18:03.740 you to joke about them so the comedians know that and they leverage that it's the reason dave

00:18:08.720 chappelle is more popular than ever yeah because he knows that if he touches on some of these things

00:18:13.020 that people are clutching tightly as their sacred cows he's going to get laughs people like to laugh

00:18:18.060 at what you don't want to be joked about so i we generally have a rule that you know if there's

00:18:23.120 anything that we're feeling like we shouldn't joke about it well maybe that's the thing we should

00:18:26.540 be joking it is most it is it is it absolutely is and i i can't thank you enough for being there when

00:18:33.820 no one else was joking about anything thank you for keeping that alive are you seeing a difference do

00:18:42.080 you think we've hit a tipping point on because if we haven't hit it yet we're very close on this

00:18:48.260 woke nonsense and people just starting to go you know what this is enough

00:18:54.420 you know i think we may be close to the tipping point because it's gotten so insane

00:19:00.060 the fact you know you know that once you start involving kids in this stuff and you start pushing

00:19:05.000 this stuff on kids and they're doing it so aggressively um you know the fact that initially it was all

00:19:11.420 denied that there were drag shows happening for kids now they're just openly promoting them all

00:19:15.200 over the place you've got the denials that there's gender affirming care i'm putting that in scare

00:19:19.460 quotes gender affirming care happening in these hospitals for minors uh and now that you know well

00:19:24.000 no it is happening and it's good and you want to harm kids if you want to try to stop it that kind of

00:19:27.940 stuff going on there are so many people who are now realizing how how crazy and out of control this

00:19:33.620 has gotten it's not just about you know respecting the freedom of other adults it's about

00:19:37.720 protecting kids from being purposefully confused we're cultivating confusion and then treating it

00:19:43.620 with irreversible damage to their bodies i mean this kind of stuff has gotten so wild that i think

00:19:48.520 there is a lot of a lot of pushback now and a lot of understanding that there needs to be something

00:19:52.800 done to mitigate it the pendulum has to swing back the other way and i think maybe we're at that point

00:19:57.400 where it's going to start to do that you're starting to see stories in the new york times that sound

00:20:00.700 more reasonable uh really because i haven't spotted a lot of those but um they just did they just did

00:20:11.340 one on transgender stuff and i think it was about gender gender affirming care for kids or something

00:20:15.540 and the whole trans community is up in arms about how transphobic the new york times is right that's a 0.98

00:20:20.160 good sign that's a good sign and i do think that i think what was it like 150 people that work for the

00:20:25.840 new york times walked out in protest and i think the new york times said we're not going to be held

00:20:32.760 hostage yep what so you're right on that yeah um great statement uh when it comes to uh when it comes

00:20:41.420 to what's being done to our children um you are really uh clear uh you did you've put some posts up

00:20:49.720 about chelsea handler and she did a video about you know the day in the life of a childless woman and

00:20:55.020 how great it is and you wrote she left out the part where she cries alone at night from the

00:21:00.200 realization that her freedom came at the cost of true fulfillment actually it came at the cost of

00:21:05.640 the lives of her children i didn't realize she bragged about having murdered multiple babies 1.00

00:21:10.980 wow yeah uh you know there's this kind of there's this this callous celebration that's happening so

00:21:21.780 much now you know we're so far from that you know abortion should be safe legal and rare type of 0.99

00:21:26.560 thing um that that was you know the kind of the mantra of the 90s uh we've we've come so far from

00:21:32.140 that now that we have people like chelsea out there you know bragging about how happy and free they are 0.98

00:21:36.620 you know with really no no mention of like what what if there is any mention of what uh allowed them to

00:21:43.240 have that freedom it's it's done in this not in the somber like sad sense like you know i made

00:21:48.240 sacrifices i made hard choices to get here no they celebrate what they did to get to get this

00:21:53.780 freedom and she's talking about the freedom to just wake up when she pleases and do what she

00:21:58.480 pleases at night and go out with friends it's like life is more meaningful than that life you know the

00:22:04.120 lives of children matter and there's so much more fulfillment to be found in having a family and

00:22:09.000 raising a family and being surrounded by loved ones and and growing old with the ones that you love and

00:22:13.860 i do think it i do think it's the case that a lot of people who think that they're finding true

00:22:17.900 freedom are are in fact sacrificing true fulfillment to get it and and they will regret it later in life

00:22:24.060 and i and i don't i don't think it's i don't think it's mean to to call that out no i i don't either i

00:22:29.660 mean i i i mean if you're you're murdering your children uh to do that i i think that's fair to call

00:22:34.940 out but i i know that i didn't i was a guy who didn't want any children and i have four and

00:22:40.000 now i'm 59 i wish i had 10 i mean the only thing that i have done in my life that truly matters

00:22:51.000 uh has happened inside the walls of my house i mean it's all about my children and you don't

00:22:57.920 really get that until you start to get a perspective of a life lived you know well yeah and the kind of

00:23:05.920 fulfillment that can come from from living sacrificially in the sense that you're serving

00:23:10.200 the needs of others there is so much fulfillment to be found in it's it sounds like to this when

00:23:15.960 you're being selfish and self-consumed it sounds so burdensome to think oh i might have to sacrifice

00:23:21.960 some of my time or money or attention to take care of somebody else or care for somebody else

00:23:27.580 but there's really there's really nothing more fulfilling like god made us to to to be in that role

00:23:33.500 you know god made women to be mothers he made men to be fathers um that's why we're here and uh and so

00:23:40.340 you know there there is real true fulfillment deep satisfaction that comes from that even though it's

00:23:44.660 a harder life in many senses wow listen to the hate coming from you um the uh the one of the stories

00:23:51.820 that i'm following that is really disturbing is how fast canada has collapsed on its protection of life

00:24:02.520 at any age at any age are you following what's happening up there with euthanasia and everything

00:24:08.800 yeah i've been hearing some things i think i heard something recently about a story about you know

00:24:14.040 about how we need to have a cutoff time i guess after certain ages put everybody down

00:24:18.780 i haven't heard that but i know that they are putting people down you know they now for if you're a

00:24:27.620 kid a teenager and you are depressed you can go to a doctor in canada and get end of life medication

00:24:35.800 wow yeah wow hello yeah that's just no no regard whatsoever for the value of life and there's so

00:24:43.280 much you know there's so many people there's so many great stories if you talk to people who've got

00:24:46.980 who've been suicidal have gone through depression or alcoholism drug addiction and they've come out on

00:24:52.320 the other side of it and their lives have been redeemed and so much good has come from that why do we

00:24:56.900 why are we so quick to give up on people i know i don't understand that i know i i am a guy who is

00:25:02.120 uh addicted to all those things and led a really bad life and alcoholic and changed my life i'd like

00:25:10.260 to think that my life had been redeemed but i know there's a lot of people who are like he should have

00:25:13.980 died a long time ago um but uh i i am living testimony that whatever you think you've done or whatever

00:25:21.860 your problems are there is there are solutions and there is a meaningful and happy life ahead of you

00:25:29.560 should you choose it yeah it's not going to be easy but if you choose it it's there it's there

00:25:35.180 thank you so much coming out of you uh uh thank you so much seth for everything that you guys do

00:25:42.040 at the babylon b and uh as always anything we can do to help you just let us know thanks

00:25:46.920 thank you glenn you bet bye-bye you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:25:52.600 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program it's friday i want to give you some hope here today

00:26:05.280 that a country is not as divided as you might think it is we just don't talk to each other and we

00:26:10.360 all live on social media and mainstream media and everybody is incentivized to keep dividing while

00:26:18.940 there are real issues i am more and more convinced every day that it is the governments of the world

00:26:26.100 that are going in one direction and the people are looking at each other going wait why why would

00:26:32.840 we go to war wait what are we doing here less than half of the country is for sending uh arms

00:26:40.220 to the ukrainians i'm kind of at the beginning i okay i want to help the ukrainians i don't want to

00:26:46.860 go to war over it but it seems like there's a disconnect between not only each other because of

00:26:53.680 left and right but also up and down the people who are just working for a living and the people who are

00:27:00.080 the ruling elites how do we solve this i'm going to show you somebody who's working on it and is

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00:28:25.340 i say and he is the founder of story core if you've never heard of story core you should it's

00:28:30.940 really a it's a great um capturing of history in real people's worlds it is honestly you're not

00:28:40.820 going to need ken burns to to document this time in history and have some star read a letter from

00:28:48.940 somebody because story core exists and what they've done is they have talked to almost three quarters of

00:28:54.340 a million people over the years and uh gotten their story from them what was important what are

00:28:59.600 they thinking about and it's all in the national archives it's a great great thing that uh he has

00:29:05.440 done uh dave is with us now but he started an another extension of story core how long ago dave

00:29:14.160 three four four you you were one of the first conversations i had it was just kind of a twinkle

00:29:18.600 in my eye about four years ago four years ago yeah we started thinking about it but we launched it about

00:29:22.620 a year and a half ago yeah okay so you did one small step yeah and one small step is what exactly

00:29:29.260 so um you know as you're talking about before there are these divisions in the country uh and uh most

00:29:37.760 people in the country are really sick of this and like worried about where this is going to take us

00:29:42.640 and want to find a way that we can see our neighbors again as our neighbors and and right you

00:29:47.040 know and obviously all the fear that we feel is this is not healthy this is like a public health

00:29:51.200 emergency in the country so with the story core the big story core that you're talking about

00:29:55.940 we've had as you said about three quarters of a million people interview their grandma their

00:29:59.780 parents about their lives and each of these go to the library of congress so your great great great

00:30:04.280 grandkids get to know your grandmother through her voice and story so essentially what we're doing

00:30:08.220 is collecting the wisdom of humanity for you know and it's about you know the fact that there's

00:30:13.900 poetry as as you well know and grace and beauty and the stories just hiding in plain sight all

00:30:19.060 around us we just have to take the time to listen oh yeah as opposed to what we're kind of bombarded

00:30:23.240 with 24 hours a day so those 750 000 people have known and loved each other and i came and talked to

00:30:28.980 you about this like four or five years ago that that you know we were and we were we have a big

00:30:34.840 problem in this country that you know that um we more and more you know polls show that um that you

00:30:41.140 know we see the biggest threat in our country as our neighbors not the chinese that's really not not 1.00

00:30:47.340 yeah it's really bad more than half the country thinks we're going to see a civil war in our lifetime

00:30:51.840 so the question is we're a non-profit in every possible way in the human connection business so the

00:30:56.840 question is you know what could we do so we started experimenting with putting strangers for the first

00:31:02.980 time across the political divide together not to talk about politics just to get to know each other

00:31:08.260 as human beings called it one small step and have and tested and tested and tested it because um you

00:31:14.520 know our hippocratic oath is to do no harm to people and we've come up with something that is

00:31:20.160 frighteningly powerful because when you put just regular people together and you let them talk

00:31:25.860 you figure out you know you have a lot in common and people come out of these conversations friends

00:31:32.080 so there's two there's two clips that i want to play these and and it's pretty interesting what

00:31:37.760 you've done is you've you've pre-interviewed people and got to know them a little bit and then put their

00:31:43.160 sheet together of of who they are and then the other person you switch with the other person you haven't

00:31:50.220 met yet and what i found in listening just to these two clips is uh they came in with different

00:31:58.300 expectations which i think all of us would yeah uh so let's play the first clip please what was the

00:32:04.340 thing that stuck with you after our previous conversation drone based on your military

00:32:09.800 background based on your upbringing uh it was interesting to me that you saw people for

00:32:15.380 their character more so than anything else you know you looked at how we kind of damage each other

00:32:22.280 in society and that we need to talk about it and stop that and then we kind of said let's talk to

00:32:27.780 each other let's go to dinner and lunch and i was like oh that sounds great so we hit it off right

00:32:32.520 away we have the same ideas about how to improve our country our country is so divided now we can do

00:32:40.580 better and i think that's what one small step is doing is allowing people to have those conversations

00:32:45.760 to talk about our similarities instead of our differences as far as our relationship is concerned

00:32:53.000 i feel as though i've known you forever yeah you are dear dear friend and i cannot imagine you not

00:32:59.560 being in my life at this point yeah well it's been a reciprocal well we're gonna have lunch together

00:33:05.060 maybe next week or so we'll get you to come here to the cottage and we'll we'll sit down and talk

00:33:09.700 politics and uh sports and whatever you want to talk about sounds good sounds good and this is a

00:33:16.560 relatively uh old guy in relation uh he's a white guy and in relation he's talking to a much younger

00:33:24.980 uh black man yeah and what did they go in expecting so this is so this is a this is what you're actually

00:33:33.040 hearing in that interview are two people who came to do one small step and we don't pre-interview

00:33:38.380 people people sign up they're they fill out all of they fill out all this stuff they do a little

00:33:42.880 biography of themselves okay um and then we match them or we have a computer match them and they get

00:33:48.460 to see each other's biography first name city only you can't google the person and then the interview

00:33:53.320 starts and you read your you know you read your partner's biography to them they read their your

00:33:57.720 biography to you and then you just talk about your life so what we're just hearing actually are two

00:34:01.760 guys who didn't interview became friends and then came back to talk about the impact on their lives

00:34:08.260 and actually um after after meeting both of them are working on a like a big project now in um in

00:34:15.300 richmond where this was recorded restoring the first uh african-american uh school in richmond the

00:34:20.780 moore street school so you know the the crazy thing the one small step is built on a a theory a

00:34:28.140 psych a theory that's one of the most studied theories in psychology called contact theory that says under

00:34:33.620 very specific circumstances if you put people who think they're enemies together oh yeah and they

00:34:38.240 have a conversation they can come out of it with that hate having melted away and the highest

00:34:43.380 possible result is friendship and we see friendship coming out of these conversations all the time i

00:34:49.020 have to tell you i that is i know that to be true no you do um in my own personal life but also when you

00:34:55.760 look at extremes the thing that i found in doing research on the holocaust was the the christians that

00:35:02.180 saved jews they all pretty much said the same thing they were not necessarily trying to save all jews

00:35:09.820 many of them said well this jew is different and the only difference was they knew them they believed

00:35:17.300 the stereotype right but they thought well this one's not like them and i hear that all the time

00:35:24.500 across the divide people will say well yeah but you're not or that person's not like them well no yeah

00:35:31.320 they're very much like that you just have this cartoon figure right and the question is if we can

00:35:37.180 get this to scale and i have to say your show is the is the number one referrer for conservatives to

00:35:42.940 one small step you're kidding me no wow we and we have barely scratched the surface i know we're

00:35:48.940 having a meeting today aren't we yeah we are yeah i really would like to talk to you because i think

00:35:54.320 you know you're you're coming from the uh non-profit world and you know you're surrounded in you know

00:36:04.360 npr and and all of that with people who think differently than i do and i think we can make a

00:36:10.040 bigger impact if we if we really put both sides together and and if it's not 50 50 contact theory

00:36:18.180 is based i i mean we at story core you know i've i've we we believe that there's a flame of good in

00:36:25.700 everybody and that's and and that you know and our job is to fan that flame until it's a roaring fire

00:36:31.600 you know and as you said that's it's that idea of general generalizing yeah you have a conversation

00:36:36.260 you think but the truth is there's nuance in everybody and if we just pound on this if we do it

00:36:40.420 over and over and over again and you're right this is not going to come from the government

00:36:43.740 it's not going to come from no way you know it has to come from the people and it's time for us to

00:36:48.500 say enough there's you know people there are so many people who worked so hard and sweated and and

00:36:55.900 and bled so that we could have this life that we have today what are we going to leave for our

00:37:01.120 children yeah and if we you know a democracy cannot survive if we hate each other we have to stop this

00:37:06.760 uh you know i just saw the news um uh the idaho house has just approved a greater idaho

00:37:13.960 which means that the the people in oregon have voted and said they wanted to join now the house

00:37:20.280 it'll have to go to the senate but then it goes to orion there's a lot of steps before that happens

00:37:23.920 but uh that seems like a very logical thing too i i don't have enough in common with you

00:37:31.100 that i have to split that's a really bad thing and that's coming because um i think there are

00:37:40.260 of a very small number on both sides that are so extreme yeah and those are the only ones that are

00:37:49.040 really being heard yep and the rest of us are standing around in our neighborhoods and with our

00:37:54.800 friends and going what what is happening here um but i don't know if that's entirely true dave because

00:38:02.120 we look at things like what's happening in our schools now these are all things 10 years ago every

00:38:08.200 american would have said no i'm not having transgender or you know regular strippers we're not doing that 0.99

00:38:16.780 we don't do that and you know i see it across the country that parents of all stripes are standing up

00:38:23.540 against it but there's a lot of people who are regular people who are now standing up and saying

00:38:29.120 well no wait a minute i i'm i'm for this and you're like what i haven't how did you change what new

00:38:36.060 information did you get well i i you know i think that i think that there's there's so much nuance in

00:38:42.020 what people believe and all nuance has been wiped away everything is black or white true and when you

00:38:46.940 actually sit together and you actually talk you find out that you know people have people first of

00:38:53.620 all like you know the great lesson of the big story core and like you know this is a show first time i

00:38:59.160 saw you and we talked about your audience you said they're patriots you know and this is a show about

00:39:04.020 people who love america yeah like i after doing i've spent 20 years on the road you know i haven't

00:39:10.780 personally been on the road but you know these hundreds of thousands of interviews this is a great

00:39:15.800 country it is the people and every facilitator we've had a thousand people mostly young people

00:39:22.940 who travel the country listening to the stories of america and they all come back and they and if you

00:39:28.060 ask them what they've learned it's a version of the ann frank quote people are good you know people

00:39:32.940 are basically good and we've lost that and i think these kind of arguments they're like people are

00:39:38.220 people have been driven crazy by by twitter you know the the the the dopamine hits you get by

00:39:44.260 putting out the most radical but when you actually sit down with people i mean i think i think that's

00:39:48.940 what we try to do that's what you try to do just shake people on the shoulder and say you know wake up

00:39:54.140 yeah wake up wake up yeah we can do better than this and we have to it's up to us let me play the next

00:40:00.060 cut and i don't want you to reveal anything about this cut until the end i want you to listen to this

00:40:05.600 and see if you haven't either experienced or heard somebody firsthand that have experienced this very

00:40:13.380 thing listen let me ask you this when you read my bio what did you think and please be as honest as

00:40:21.760 you feel comfortable because nothing would bother me so the first part my mind kicked into stereotype

00:40:28.900 she's probably died in the wool democrat end of story second part was intriguing because you said

00:40:37.160 something along the lines of an open mind uh well this will be interesting when i read your bio i just

00:40:43.660 thought you were white man i thought i was gonna cover here and just i don't even know what it was i don't

00:40:50.220 even remember what it was and that that's what's so interesting to me is that i'm just like that's

00:40:55.800 exactly right so i have to admit it and i appreciate you receiving that and allowing me to

00:41:02.280 admit my stereotype because when you walked in the door and you stood up and introduced myself i was like

00:41:06.120 oops oops oops i don't feel threatened i hope you don't feel threatened um what once we leave this

00:41:15.800 this conversation uh i hope i believe we'll have other conversations with others may revisit maybe

00:41:24.280 your wife and my husband and four of us can get together and continue a conversation but my point

00:41:30.440 is that what are we afraid of

00:41:32.960 fascinating david and cassandra both african-american so dave um what are you doing next where

00:41:44.600 where do you go next with this well we have so now it's time so so basically we've done a ton of

00:41:51.340 research um we've had thousands of people participate and now we have to scale it um and

00:41:57.440 we want so right now we're in we're first of all if you're if you're a glenn beck listener you go we

00:42:02.580 have thousands and thousands and thousands of people on waiting lists waiting to do this glenn

00:42:07.080 beck listeners right to the top so um take one small step.org to sign up uh and uh and and join us

00:42:14.980 we are focused on three cities now um richmond fresno and wichita and we're just going to add

00:42:21.100 cities and add cities and add cities and eventually have this you know go across the country it you

00:42:25.960 know it feels like a race against time and at the end of those videos we are we're coming into the

00:42:31.280 home stretch of something and i don't know 2024 is is is not going to be pretty yeah um and you know

00:42:36.560 at the end of the video it says you know our our mission is to you know convince the country

00:42:41.980 it's our patriotic duty to see the human in people we disagree with you know and and we know it's a

00:42:47.060 moonshot uh we know that there are lots of there are a billion different forces that are trying would

00:42:52.420 trying to trip this up but you know the the people can win i mean that's been your that's what you've

00:42:58.540 believed all the way i know just we just have to come together and just say stop and i think that

00:43:03.960 is the biggest problem i think with politicians of any stripe they don't necessarily believe in the

00:43:10.940 people you know jefferson said trust the american people they may get it wrong from time to time but

00:43:17.780 they will correct their mistake and so many people don't give us information or they're doing something

00:43:24.580 else they'll say one thing do another just trust the american people you know and i think that comes

00:43:29.720 from a lack of doing what you do and what i do and that is just listen to people all over the country

00:43:35.060 and you'll realize these are good people yeah well and i think that's part of the problem and you know

00:43:41.460 a big problem that's got us to this place is that people don't feel heard they just want people just

00:43:47.640 want to be heard i know and they want to be treated with dignity and they wanted to be treated they want

00:43:51.660 to be treated with respect no one has ever changed their mind in the history of the world by being

00:43:57.340 called the name by being threatened you know they just want to be listened to yeah you know and

00:44:02.560 again if we could just assume the good in others i mean what a country this would be i mean it's such

00:44:08.720 a country it's i i mean imagine if one small step could take hold imagine if we could just you know

00:44:16.100 be neighbors again how and and and if if politics wasn't stopped up by the insanity and we could just

00:44:22.620 get things done for the good of the country and the good of people i mean it's it's it's it's it's

00:44:27.920 it's just beyond comprehension how how how amazing this could be and the other and then there's the

00:44:33.280 other road which we don't want to talk about and and you know where that leads yeah i'm proud to know

00:44:39.460 you you're a good man i'm proud to i'm proud to call you a friend i appreciate you're a really good

00:44:43.780 man um how do people get in touch and if they want to sign up so just go to take one small step dot org

00:44:49.580 takes about five minutes to sign up okay and uh we are we're drinking from a fire hose yeah but we

00:44:55.460 want you to be part of that fire hose and we want that fire hose to turn into a wave that overtakes

00:44:59.660 this country and shows us a different way good thank you dave thank you all right

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