The Glenn Beck Program - January 15, 2024


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Vivek Ramaswamy & Steve Deace ｜ 1⧸15⧸24


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Vivek Ramaswamy has some thoughts on Trump. Steve Dacey talks about the snow in Iowa. Glenn Beck talks about global warming. And why you should vote for Trump if you re a liberal.

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00:00:00.000 So let me tell you about the podcast today. It is really, really good. If you're into the coverage of the race tonight, the caucus in Iowa, we have Steve Dace on about that. We have Vivek Ramaswamy on about Trump and what he said. And really, why vote for you, Vivek, if you're Trump light?
00:00:20.340 He had some things to say about that. Also, a woman, Anna Stanley, she is she's from the foreign office in the UK. She was a civil servant and she went to King's College in England for a seminar on basically homeland security and domestic terror threats.
00:00:46.860 She had to point out several times, wait a minute, 70 percent of the terrorist activity in the United Kingdom is from Islamic extremists.
00:00:57.160 They wanted to make sure that everybody understood that's not true. And it's coming from just everyday, ordinary people that are the ones that are the terrorists because they're against what the government is saying to do.
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00:03:00.120 Steve, what does it feel like on the ground in Iowa?
00:03:05.280 What's the temperature?
00:03:07.240 Right now, it's minus eight, and I want to scream that like the publisher in Elf.
00:03:10.780 Minus eight!
00:03:11.880 Okay?
00:03:12.320 I mean, it is.
00:03:13.880 I mean, Glenn, I've lived in this same house for 17 years.
00:03:18.560 I've never seen snow drifts in my front walk this high.
00:03:21.300 This is soul-crushing, go in a corner, and begin self-harm levels of cold.
00:03:26.240 Oh, Steve, buck up, man.
00:03:28.380 And if Kansas City could play on Saturday in negative four without sleeves,
00:03:35.960 certainly you can get out of your house.
00:03:38.980 Well, some of us are going to.
00:03:40.860 Now, comparing the average Iowa to the best athletes in America might be a bit of a...
00:03:45.720 But some of us are going to, and that's the thing, though, Glenn, I don't know what some
00:03:53.120 of us will.
00:03:53.680 I mean, I went to the last, the campaign closing event for Ron DeSantis last night, and even
00:04:00.380 in one of our largest suburbs of Ankeny, to get up hills, I still had to go four-wheel
00:04:05.180 drive in residential areas three days after this snow left.
00:04:09.000 The blowing, the drifting, most of our residential areas are covered in ice, sheets of ice.
00:04:15.240 Our school kids in the metros are looking at maybe a five-day weekend between the closures
00:04:20.440 last week, and then today's a holiday, and then probably tomorrow as well.
00:04:25.120 Wow.
00:04:25.780 And you guys never close.
00:04:28.080 You never close schools there, right?
00:04:30.260 It's got to take a lot, man.
00:04:31.600 I mean, we have this thing called winter every year, you know, and the caucuses are usually
00:04:36.660 in January and February, but this is pretty extraordinary.
00:04:40.220 There's wind chill warnings throughout the state, literally telling elderly people, do
00:04:44.040 not go outside.
00:04:45.880 It is, the turnout model here tonight is going to be very fascinating.
00:04:50.800 I have no idea what's going to happen.
00:04:52.560 I really don't.
00:04:53.060 Well, there you go, yet another victim of global cooling, global warming, or whatever
00:05:01.520 it is.
00:05:02.320 So, who do you think are the most motivated people?
00:05:06.080 I mean, you know, I read about Nikki Haley's crew, and the latest poll shows she's only got
00:05:12.140 about 9% of those who are behind her really exhilarated by her campaign.
00:05:19.160 So, between that and now the Democrats saying they're going to show up and caucus for her,
00:05:28.100 is she going to actually perform at that 20% that the register said she was going to perform
00:05:34.440 at tonight?
00:05:35.480 No, that poll is a curse to her. 0.99
00:05:38.140 It really raised expectations for her campaign, because most people are just going to read the
00:05:43.340 top line and not the cross tabs.
00:05:44.800 And if you read the cross tabs, basically, her base of people isn't motivated to vote
00:05:49.760 for and prefers Biden in the general election, right?
00:05:52.560 So, brother, if I don't know how many Republicans are going to show up in this weather and sit
00:05:58.000 around for an hour to caucus, I sure as hell don't think there's going to be a lot of Democrats
00:06:02.040 and independents that want to come in and hang out with people they probably don't like,
00:06:05.700 all right, and brave this weather.
00:06:06.780 So, I actually, if you made me make one prediction, I would predict, I think she's going to finish
00:06:16.520 closer to Vivek Ramaswamy tonight than to Ron DeSantis.
00:06:21.480 I think this has largely been astroturf this entire time.
00:06:25.220 The Des Moines Register poll is wrong every caucus cycle.
00:06:28.220 I have no idea why it's held up as a gold standard.
00:06:30.780 It's held up as a gold standard, but it's wrong every cycle.
00:06:33.360 And it's held up by the same people that tell you it's a gold standard, told you a couple
00:06:38.120 of winters ago that Chinese face diapers are 99% effective against airborne contagions,
00:06:43.280 okay?
00:06:43.640 So, it's just, it's never right at all.
00:06:46.120 I would go by the behavior of the campaigns.
00:06:49.180 They know better than anyone else.
00:06:51.120 They've got the best data, but they have the best observation.
00:06:53.860 I think the fact the former president hustled to get up here one final time over the weekend,
00:06:59.140 I doubt he's concerned about losing.
00:07:01.020 He's probably more concerned.
00:07:02.200 He's got to cover a spread.
00:07:04.000 Like, you know, Glenn, I mean, he's been favored by 50 points in these polls all year.
00:07:07.800 He wins tonight by like nine or 10.
00:07:09.780 People are going to be like, what the hell's going on?
00:07:11.460 You know?
00:07:11.760 So, he's probably concerned about that.
00:07:14.700 And now you're starting to see late in the process, the organization that the DeSantis
00:07:19.700 campaign built, which was patterned a lot after what we built on the Cruz campaign
00:07:23.720 in 2016 here.
00:07:25.200 But they've done it even better, I think.
00:07:27.060 Now you're starting to see it kind of harvest and have a fruition.
00:07:30.200 So, I think he'll overperform.
00:07:32.480 To what extent?
00:07:33.160 I don't know.
00:07:33.940 I could see him getting anywhere from, say, 20 to 38.
00:07:38.200 I could see Trump getting anywhere from 35 to 50.
00:07:42.180 I think it's that volatile with the turnout model right now because of the weather and
00:07:46.820 everything here in Iowa.
00:07:47.620 I know that you are, you know, you've jumped on the DeSantis bandwagon.
00:07:52.240 So, try to be as fair as you can on this.
00:07:55.980 Who has the most walk through a wall of fire, or in this case, walk through an ice storm,
00:08:04.020 to vote?
00:08:06.260 I think that's clearly the former president.
00:08:08.740 But I think people need to understand that.
00:08:11.420 And you know this because you came here to campaign with Cruz against the former president
00:08:15.200 in 2016, so you saw this with your own eyes, that the evangelical base in Iowa is not like
00:08:20.280 what you see in a lot of red states for Donald Trump.
00:08:22.740 It is admiration, not adulation.
00:08:25.660 All right?
00:08:25.960 And so, you know, for example, he won our state in the general election twice.
00:08:30.560 No Republicans done that since Reagan.
00:08:32.900 He was instrumental.
00:08:34.360 You know, people like me that worked for 10 years to try to make Iowa look like Texas.
00:08:38.860 You know, the last nut we couldn't crack is we couldn't convince rural counties to vote
00:08:43.260 Republican because they thought we were all corporatists.
00:08:45.880 And Trump was kind of the last, he was the last ingredient in the formula here that helped
00:08:50.860 us split this state red by flipping about 30 counties that voted for Obama once or twice.
00:08:55.820 He flipped them to vote for him twice.
00:08:57.720 So he is popular here.
00:08:59.260 But Iowans take this process, you know, I wouldn't say very serious.
00:09:03.880 You know, they do.
00:09:04.600 They do.
00:09:05.200 I wish the rest of the country took it as seriously as Iowa does.
00:09:11.460 I mean, I was going on the road.
00:09:13.740 I was shocked.
00:09:15.080 They are a year out and they are already gathering together in their towns and listening to campaign
00:09:22.120 speeches.
00:09:22.940 I mean, they take it very seriously.
00:09:24.800 And I think that's great.
00:09:26.720 Yes.
00:09:27.320 And so I think they're able to look at, for example, they can say, hey, I love what the
00:09:31.080 former president has done for rural Iowa.
00:09:33.160 It's been great.
00:09:34.200 We are one of the states.
00:09:35.600 I know there's a big debate in the Republican Party right now with the Trump brand has done,
00:09:39.020 you know, in places like suburban states and exurban states.
00:09:42.500 But in a rural state like Iowa, he's been a plus benefit.
00:09:45.340 There's no question about that.
00:09:46.580 But Iowans are also able to say, yeah, yeah, just because I liked him before doesn't mean
00:09:50.620 I like him again.
00:09:51.700 And so I think that there will be some soft Trump supporters that will flip to DeSantis
00:09:57.660 tonight based on the strength of his organization.
00:10:00.560 What that number will be, though, I have absolutely no idea.
00:10:04.560 I really don't.
00:10:06.080 Where will where will Nikki Haley's voters go if they flip? 0.85
00:10:10.780 I don't know how many voters she has. 1.00
00:10:12.440 First of all, I think she's relying a lot on people that don't traditionally vote Republican.
00:10:15.940 And just so people understand what I mean by turnout models, you know, typically we get
00:10:20.820 about 25 or 26 percent of Republicans will turn out in a caucus this year.
00:10:25.220 It's going to be less because we have more Republicans in Iowa than ever before, about
00:10:29.100 six hundred and seventy thousand.
00:10:30.380 So if we have, say, a turnout of one hundred and fifty thousand, which I think would be
00:10:34.440 pretty good in this in this weather, you're talking about almost only one out of every
00:10:38.620 six Republicans is showing up to vote here.
00:10:40.920 OK, so if most of in most of her and people ask, why is that?
00:10:45.320 Because in the caucus, you vote the way the founding fathers did.
00:10:48.600 You don't show up, pull a curtain on your break and walk out.
00:10:51.360 You show up.
00:10:52.240 You listen to speeches.
00:10:53.340 Maybe you'll be called on to give a speech.
00:10:55.260 You'll give it.
00:10:55.840 You may be asked to give an account for why you're voting the way you are.
00:10:58.360 Or you can volunteer to do that.
00:11:00.160 Horse trading goes on there.
00:11:01.480 Party business goes on there.
00:11:03.060 The process can take an hour or more in some places, depending on how large the precinct
00:11:07.280 is.
00:11:07.800 So you've got to be really committed to wanting to be a part of the process to take part in
00:11:12.140 a caucus.
00:11:12.820 And and that's just not the kinds of people that typically vote for a Nikki Haley.
00:11:16.220 She's basically the John Kasich of this cycle.
00:11:21.160 Why do you suppose?
00:11:22.520 I mean, I have my opinions.
00:11:23.820 Why do you suppose DeSantis, who before this race started, seemed like it could be a lot
00:11:32.120 closer between him and Donald Trump, and it just hasn't materialized.
00:11:37.540 It did it first and then it just kind of dissipated.
00:11:41.200 Why?
00:11:42.520 Well, if you go and look and I think let's find out what happens tonight.
00:11:45.880 I think I think tonight will give us I'll probably be able to answer this question more
00:11:51.000 for you tomorrow in terms of both its premise and application based on what happens tonight.
00:11:56.540 But preemptively, you know, if you look at the RealClearPolitics national polling average
00:12:01.300 on March 30th, it was something like 42 Trump, 32 DeSantis.
00:12:06.300 And he wouldn't even be a candidate for another almost two months.
00:12:10.620 A week later on April 6th, Trump is now up like 54 to 25.
00:12:14.580 So what happened?
00:12:16.160 DeSantis isn't even a candidate.
00:12:17.700 What happened is on March 31st, Donald Trump got indicted by Alvin Bragg.
00:12:21.860 And the biggest pin and pull and yin and yang of this cycle has been, you know, what's
00:12:29.060 happening to Trump is wrong.
00:12:30.760 So you have these you have these dual, you know, philosophies.
00:12:35.020 Trump can't can't win another national election.
00:12:38.320 We've lost every national election cycle since he miraculously won in 2016 versus vis-a-vis
00:12:43.260 policy.
00:12:44.520 What they're doing to him is wrong.
00:12:45.920 It's un-American. 0.82
00:12:47.180 And, you know, I want him to return like MacArthur in the Philippines. 0.99
00:12:50.400 And we're going to finish this script.
00:12:52.340 And if you look at the internals of a lot of the polls that had him with way ahead of
00:12:57.100 DeSantis, what you'll see is in favorabilities, DeSantis is either even with Trump or often
00:13:02.460 ahead.
00:13:02.800 And I think the biggest sell that Ron DeSantis has had to make, I think there's a lot of
00:13:07.880 people, I think what people like you and me see on Twitter, that we've destroyed Ron
00:13:12.800 DeSantis' brand, but, you know, these Trump influencers, that's just not true.
00:13:16.640 If it were, his favorables would have plummeted.
00:13:18.960 I think what DeSantis has had to do is get out of the friend zone.
00:13:22.420 He's had this.
00:13:23.220 He's got to make the sale that his time is now.
00:13:26.280 And I think people are torn between, do we turn the page from Trump or do we finish the
00:13:30.780 script with Trump?
00:13:32.680 And that's why I said, I want to see and wait what happens tonight to give you a more definitive
00:13:38.140 answer, because I think this will be the first verdict on how successful can you be convincing
00:13:44.260 people that Trump's time has passed and it's your time now as opposed to 2028.
00:13:49.120 And if he performs, if he falls into third, you think he's done or not?
00:13:55.520 I'd be, I'd be stunned to be finished third.
00:13:57.580 Yeah, I would too.
00:13:58.600 I would too.
00:13:59.100 I think he's going, there's two things I'm confident in.
00:14:02.480 It'll be a disappointing turnout and he's going to overperform, but I don't know what
00:14:06.800 overperform is.
00:14:07.800 I, I, could it be 22?
00:14:09.580 Could it be 38, 40?
00:14:11.620 I mean, I, I think the, the, when, when we're talking rural America, rural Iowa, where Trump's
00:14:17.980 needs huge turnouts and, and people may have to drive tractors to get to precinct sites,
00:14:23.220 given where things are going on right now.
00:14:24.820 I, I just, you know, um, the, you know, he, he, the average Fox news viewer is 69 years
00:14:30.880 old, as you well know.
00:14:31.900 I mean, those are very supportive of Trump.
00:14:34.200 I don't know how, how many of those people are going to come out in this weather, given
00:14:38.660 their health and the dangers of the ice and everything else.
00:14:41.360 I just don't know the answer to that.
00:14:43.180 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:14:44.760 And we really want to thank you for listening.
00:14:46.820 We have, uh, Vivek Ramaswamy on, uh, with us now from Iowa.
00:14:50.880 Uh, uh, Hey, Vivek, how are you?
00:14:54.100 Glenn, how are you doing?
00:14:55.780 I'm good.
00:14:56.840 Uh, I have to ask you about the thing from Donald Trump this weekend.
00:15:00.860 He said, Vivek started his campaign as a great supporter.
00:15:04.560 Unfortunately, now he's disguising his support in the form of deceitful campaign tricks.
00:15:09.160 Don't get duped by this vote for Trump.
00:15:11.480 Don't waste your vote.
00:15:12.360 Um, how do you, how do you feel about that?
00:15:16.540 Yeah, I think he had a kinder post this morning that he put up as well.
00:15:19.520 I mean, look, I think there's a couple of things going on here, Glenn, just to speak
00:15:22.840 a few hard truths.
00:15:24.080 One is anybody who's on the ground here in Iowa is seeing a very late surge here for
00:15:28.920 me.
00:15:29.320 Many of the people who were expected to endorse Trump, very strong America first patriots
00:15:34.920 like Steve King, who I think was wrongly denigrated by the media.
00:15:38.800 He was widely expected to endorse Trump.
00:15:41.120 He actually came out in strong and full-throated support of me because of a couple of the positions
00:15:46.240 I've taken here in Iowa for Iowans against eminent domain, against the climate change
00:15:51.140 cult and a carbon capture pipeline here in the state.
00:15:54.080 So anyway, I think there's a lot of momentum here in my direction.
00:15:56.780 So I think that that's one big factor.
00:15:58.680 I think another factor, though, is in this whole race, Glenn, I don't care if it's left
00:16:02.420 or right or to our own movement or outward.
00:16:04.440 I'm going to speak the hard truth.
00:16:06.200 And there's one hard truth that is staring us in the face.
00:16:09.580 And it hurts to hear it.
00:16:11.020 But it's the truth.
00:16:12.640 I have stood against these persecutions against Trump more strongly than anybody else.
00:16:17.060 I filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court last week, pushing back against the
00:16:21.580 Colorado decision.
00:16:23.220 And Glenn, I'm going to be really honest with you.
00:16:24.800 The reason I filed an amicus brief is I don't have the confidence that Trump's team was going
00:16:28.580 to make all of the correct legal arguments that needed to be made, because it needs to
00:16:32.340 be the right thing for the country, which is why I did it.
00:16:35.060 So I push back at every step.
00:16:36.580 But we have to be realistic for this country and open our eyes that there's a plot and it's
00:16:40.920 hiding in plain sight.
00:16:42.180 They want to narrow this down to a two horse race between Trump and a puppet who they can
00:16:46.760 control.
00:16:47.240 People, as you were just alluding to, one way or another, eliminate Trump from contention
00:16:51.800 and it is disgusting. 0.92
00:16:53.320 But then they can trot their puppet into the White House.
00:16:56.040 And we owe it to this country to make sure that it doesn't happen.
00:16:59.500 And so some people would say, why are you in this race?
00:17:02.800 It's because I have a responsibility to this country to make sure that does not happen.
00:17:06.740 We have to open our eyes.
00:17:08.120 Last time it was a man-made pandemic and a rigged election.
00:17:11.100 This time they're going to stop at nothing.
00:17:13.440 And I increasingly worry, Glenn, it means nothing.
00:17:15.860 And so I'm worried for the future of this country.
00:17:17.740 I'm worried for Trump.
00:17:18.480 I'm worried for this year.
00:17:20.100 I think we're skating on thin ice as a country and we cannot fall for the trap that's been
00:17:24.260 laid for us.
00:17:25.000 And yes, the truth hurts sometimes, but the first step to actually solving it is to see
00:17:30.120 the truth and speak it without hiding from it.
00:17:32.820 You know, the Democrats always tip their hand because whatever they accuse the right of,
00:17:38.400 they're doing.
00:17:39.960 Oh, yeah.
00:17:40.440 And it disturbs me because this is the first time I've heard from a credible source, you
00:17:47.220 know, credible in quotation marks, like NBC News, where they are actually saying that
00:17:53.220 Donald Trump could assassinate his political enemies.
00:17:57.320 Don't put it past him.
00:17:58.660 What does that tell you, Glenn?
00:17:59.460 It tells me that they are willing to do that.
00:18:02.580 Think about it.
00:18:03.760 Well, you have to skate to where the puck is going, people.
00:18:06.480 None of us is God.
00:18:08.380 None of us is immortal.
00:18:09.540 None of us is beyond.
00:18:10.580 I mean, you know what?
00:18:11.660 I do think we're in the middle of a deeper war in this country.
00:18:15.060 And I think it goes even beyond just this realm.
00:18:17.440 I think that there's a form of spiritual warfare in this country right now.
00:18:20.080 And I think that it is something that we have to open our eyes to as a reality that this
00:18:25.500 system is corrupt and they will stop at nothing.
00:18:29.120 And you look at the electoral tactics they were trying to use and the lawsuits and now
00:18:32.980 forget the judicial system, just remove him from the ballot because somebody says on a
00:18:36.740 whim in the state of Maine that we're removing him.
00:18:39.680 They are selling us the rope today that they will use to hang us tomorrow.
00:18:43.740 They want this to be a two horse race.
00:18:45.560 They want to eliminate Trump and they want to trot a puppet who they can control into the
00:18:50.220 White House.
00:18:51.060 And I can't be controlled, Glenn.
00:18:52.760 And so I'm actually going to be the one who's able to make sure that that doesn't happen
00:18:57.140 if I'm able to do my responsibility to this country by being in this race and seeing it 1.00
00:19:01.020 through to the very end.
00:19:03.120 And so I think that our movement, sometimes the truth hurts, but we owe it to this country.
00:19:07.620 We owe it to our founding fathers.
00:19:09.340 Our America First movement did not start in 2016.
00:19:12.640 It started in 1776.
00:19:15.800 And so I know some of the hard Trump supporters, and heck, I was one of them, right?
00:19:20.800 And I am, in spirit of what it represents, still part of that, and support Donald Trump against
00:19:26.560 these unjust persecutions.
00:19:28.800 But we owe it to this country to make sure we don't look back a year from now.
00:19:32.660 Here's a way to look at this, Glenn.
00:19:33.800 All the people who will say, well, you're taking votes away from Trump, and so why are
00:19:38.180 you in this race?
00:19:39.300 I want you to fast forward to a year from now.
00:19:41.840 And a year from now, let's say things play out exactly the way that I've said it.
00:19:44.980 They then trot in a puppet into the White House so they can control.
00:19:47.840 Do you want to look back a year from now?
00:19:49.680 And are we going to say, oh, we were shocked that that happened?
00:19:52.200 We didn't see that coming?
00:19:53.100 Or are we going to say, what the heck were we thinking when we fell right into that trap
00:19:58.660 and we have a puppet in the White House rather than an America First patriot?
00:20:02.780 So do not fall for that trap.
00:20:04.400 That's what I'm saying.
00:20:05.280 You're not talking about Nikki Haley.
00:20:07.340 You're talking about a Democratic puppet.
00:20:10.140 I'm talking about whatever puppet is they can control.
00:20:12.660 And I think Nikki Haley is looking like the next one they're trying for in the Republican 0.98
00:20:15.940 Party, Glenn.
00:20:16.920 And if they fail with that, then it's going to be the next puppet who's Gavin Newsom or whoever
00:20:21.020 else.
00:20:21.380 But the system is agnostic.
00:20:23.540 The deep state, I think, is agnostic to whether the R or the D comes after your name.
00:20:27.180 It's whether you advance the consistent permanent war agenda and the surveillance state agenda
00:20:31.400 here at home.
00:20:32.520 Nikki Haley has said she wants driver's license tied to every social media account and internet 0.52
00:20:37.580 account.
00:20:38.400 I don't know if that's coming from Jack Smith or Joe Biden or Nikki Haley, but they want
00:20:41.320 Donald Trump and a puppet who they can control, eliminate Trump and trot in their puppet. 0.65
00:20:45.640 That's the game.
00:20:46.480 And we cannot fall for it.
00:20:47.920 So you just said you're going all the way to the end.
00:20:51.960 If you finish fourth in the next three, let's just say, you won't drop out?
00:21:00.880 Are you staying in to the end?
00:21:02.360 Well, that's not what's going to happen, Glenn, first of all.
00:21:05.120 I think we're going to shock the world at the Iowa caucus tonight.
00:21:07.400 And anybody who isn't on the ground here, I think, has their head in the sand.
00:21:11.020 I think people who are here on the ground are seeing a late surge.
00:21:14.280 The polls are dead wrong.
00:21:15.820 You see the likes of Steve Holt or Steve King, some of the strongest constitutional conservatives
00:21:19.720 in the state, switching their endorsements, some of them.
00:21:22.720 Others, surprise, endorsing me at the late cycles in the last 72 hours.
00:21:27.280 And so I think we're going to deliver a major shock tonight.
00:21:29.740 But I think there's something deeper going on.
00:21:31.800 It's not about Trump.
00:21:32.740 It's not about me.
00:21:33.540 It's about this country, Glenn.
00:21:35.020 Yeah.
00:21:35.460 And I do think that there is a plan hiding in plain sight.
00:21:38.900 And if we have our eyes closed to it, shame on us.
00:21:42.380 Last time it was a man-made pandemic and a rigged election, as I said.
00:21:45.460 So fool me once, shame on you.
00:21:47.540 Fool me twice, shame on me.
00:21:49.700 And the plot is hiding in plain sight.
00:21:51.360 It's up to us to open our eyes and to see it.
00:21:54.120 And we deserve and require an America First patriot in the White House, rather than a puppet
00:21:59.680 for the permanent state, which is what we're going to get otherwise.
00:22:03.220 Why should somebody vote over Trump?
00:22:07.320 Because your support is Trump's support.
00:22:10.400 I mean, he asked me last week who he should pick as vice president.
00:22:13.900 Should he win the vote here, the nomination?
00:22:19.300 And I said, Vivek.
00:22:21.240 I said, he's a lot like you.
00:22:23.960 He's a fighter.
00:22:24.820 He can make great cases for the American people, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:28.440 And I think he's a young up-and-comer that would make a good president at some point.
00:22:32.240 Let me say a word about that one, Glenn, actually.
00:22:34.620 You know what?
00:22:36.480 I haven't really given that a lot of thought until a million people asked me that.
00:22:40.260 And so I actually have given it some thought.
00:22:42.020 And here's the answer to that question is, that would need to be a discussion with Trump
00:22:46.900 where I would say, listen, I want you to make sure we're on the same page.
00:22:50.920 I don't want to build a new building for the FBI.
00:22:53.440 I want to shut it down.
00:22:55.000 I don't want to have crony subsidies to carbon capture pipelines.
00:22:59.380 I want to end them.
00:23:01.080 I want to shut down many of these agencies.
00:23:03.760 I actually do think we need accountability in our own Republican Party, that we shouldn't
00:23:07.140 support the likes of Ronna McDaniel sitting in that seat, that we should on day one actually
00:23:11.620 pardon every peaceful January 6th protester and see that through.
00:23:15.760 Admit that there were some mistakes made in the past and we're going to correct for them
00:23:18.800 with the vaccines and make sure that vaccine liabilities for companies, that we don't get
00:23:24.100 a special shield from being sued.
00:23:25.860 And I'd want to make sure we're on the same page about those things right now.
00:23:29.220 I don't know if we are.
00:23:30.120 I'm the only one who's taken a lot of those positions.
00:23:32.820 But the way I'm looking at it, Glenn, is right now in this race, if I have that long
00:23:36.520 list to say that in order to be vice president, I'd need an agreement from Donald Trump that
00:23:40.340 he agrees with me and is committed to seeing each of those things through all the way through,
00:23:44.500 yes, shutting down the FBI, not building a new building or reforming it.
00:23:48.240 And if so, then you know what?
00:23:49.680 I would honestly consider it.
00:23:50.920 But right now, given that that list is long, here's how I'm doing.
00:23:54.600 And it is at a certain point, the list is long enough that you say the best way I can
00:23:57.980 do this is actually about being the next president, leading from the front and taking Donald Trump
00:24:02.240 as my advisor to do the right thing for this country, which I will do if I'm the president.
00:24:06.820 I've only got about 90 seconds.
00:24:08.340 What is your plan for the border?
00:24:10.960 My plan for the border is use our military to seal it.
00:24:14.320 We've got 40,000 troops in places like Germany where they don't advance our interest.
00:24:17.780 Germany isn't paying for its own national self-defense.
00:24:19.880 They can move those troops to our own border, end federal funding for sanctuary cities.
00:24:25.800 And I go further, end birthright citizenship for the kids of illegals. 1.00
00:24:29.860 That ends the incentives to come here for an anchor baby.
00:24:32.480 And anybody who's in this country illegally must be returned to their country of origin. 1.00
00:24:38.140 And the way we do it is use the law.
00:24:40.400 The existing laws allow you to leverage local law enforcement to serve the warrants.
00:24:44.840 That's a million local law enforcement.
00:24:47.320 No president has done it, but the existing laws allow for it.
00:24:50.620 And so I do think it takes a president, Glenn, and this goes to the question about Trump and myself,
00:24:55.040 takes a president from the outside who has sharp elbows and can break things.
00:24:59.040 And Trump brings that, and I think I bring that on steroids.
00:25:01.880 But I also think it's going to take a president who knows and deeply understands personally
00:25:06.500 the law and the constitution of this country.
00:25:09.420 So we're not going to be duped by that same swamp class of advisors. 0.98
00:25:12.960 And so that's why I'm in this, and I'm going to see this through to the very end.
00:25:16.340 And I believe I have a duty to this country to see this through.
00:25:19.280 And either way, it has to be an America First Patriot in that White House.
00:25:22.800 Well, good luck tonight, Vivek.
00:25:25.280 Appreciate it.
00:25:25.920 Thank you so much for being on.
00:25:27.560 God bless.
00:25:28.200 Thanks a lot, Glenn.
00:25:28.700 You are listening to the best of Glenn Beck.
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00:25:36.200 So I read an article by Anna Stanley last week, and it was hair-raising.
00:25:41.780 I sent it to all of my relatives, and I said, and so it begins.
00:25:46.120 She attended a King's College course called Issues Encountering Terrorism.
00:25:51.520 It was organized by the Center for Defense Studies, designed for civil servants and professionals
00:25:57.260 in counterterrorism.
00:25:59.360 Staff from the Foreign Office of the UK, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Defense, Home Office.
00:26:04.480 And it was all a three-day course with lecturers from King's College, visiting senior research
00:26:12.800 fellows, professors, and they included those who held former positions such as permanent
00:26:18.840 secretary of the Home Office, director of GCHQ, defense minister, and foreign office director.
00:26:26.900 So this is not some fringy thing.
00:26:29.740 This is involving some of the greater minds and the known names in England.
00:26:37.000 Anna is here to tell us what she experienced.
00:26:39.480 Hi, Anna.
00:26:40.940 Hi, Glenn.
00:26:41.660 Thank you so much for having me on your show.
00:26:43.400 Oh, you bet.
00:26:44.600 I found your article terrifying, really terrifying.
00:26:49.840 Tell me what you experienced.
00:26:52.120 Well, where to start?
00:26:56.840 I mean, yeah, you introduced it.
00:26:58.660 It was a course for civil servants, so that is staff enacting the will of the UK government.
00:27:05.880 Only the lecturers were espousing views which were very contrary to that, which the government
00:27:13.100 is trying to perpetuate at the moment in the realm of counterterrorism.
00:27:16.880 There was one point where the lecturer actually went against the latest government-commissioned
00:27:23.120 review of Prevent, and he actually derogatively characterized William Shawcross, who wrote the
00:27:28.860 review of Prevent, as saying, all counterterrorist professionals are woke.
00:27:34.480 He is of that ilk, he said.
00:27:36.700 So wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:27:37.540 What is, first of all, what is Prevent?
00:27:39.780 Can you explain that?
00:27:42.100 Yeah, sorry, I should have done.
00:27:43.300 So in the UK, Prevent is the UK's counterterrorism strategy.
00:27:47.400 It looks at radicalization in the UK and how to tackle it.
00:27:51.440 And it's the policy that all counterterrorism professionals follow.
00:27:56.100 And there was recently a review, but it gets reviewed every few years.
00:27:59.500 And it basically obviously gets reviewed for how effective it's being.
00:28:05.020 And there's been a massive movement over the last few years, or an attempt movement, I should
00:28:11.400 say, rather, to put ideology at the center of counterterrorism.
00:28:17.720 This is something Shawcross is arguing, because basically, previously, people who committed
00:28:23.160 terrorism, they were seen as almost victims.
00:28:26.600 It was seen as a safeguarding issue in the UK, you know, they would acknowledge that maybe
00:28:31.460 these people have been victims of crime, or linked to crime, or they've been in domestic
00:28:36.740 abuse relationships.
00:28:37.800 There was a real lack of giving them responsibility, but also placing ideology as a major motivating
00:28:44.720 factor.
00:28:46.200 And one of the lecturers really went against that recommendation of the Shawcross review,
00:28:52.460 as well as, yeah, many other parts of the course which were deeply concerning.
00:28:57.920 So what I got from you and other sources is, and we can see it happening, is a softening
00:29:08.560 of people, of calling out terrorists who might happen to be Islamic extremists, and instead
00:29:19.580 pinning extremism on the regular, you know, Joe on the streets of England, and saying that
00:29:28.780 those who believe in England and freedom and everything else, that those might be the terrorists.
00:29:34.880 I mean, I couldn't agree more.
00:29:36.740 And in my article, I basically referenced that one of the civil servant attendees basically
00:29:42.880 professed that her brother had actually been radicalized and fought for the Islamic State
00:29:48.160 in Syria, which I think is quite a dramatic revelation.
00:29:52.520 Later on, we were shown a video which was actually a jihadi from London, and it was an
00:30:00.040 advertisement to recruit people into Syria to fight for jihad.
00:30:03.900 And she also recognized him too.
00:30:05.920 He went to my school, she said.
00:30:08.080 And this same person, she was also a civil servant.
00:30:14.440 We were all given a presentation to do as part of the course, and hers was basically undermining
00:30:21.200 prevent and saying that it's inherently racist because it focuses on Islamist extremism, and
00:30:26.860 it makes Muslims feel uncomfortable.
00:30:28.800 And you're exactly right.
00:30:31.400 Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I was so shot, especially the revelation about the brother.
00:30:36.000 I mean, I was really looking around the room like, what did she just say that?
00:30:40.900 And it was bizarre.
00:30:42.100 People really just didn't think it was a big deal.
00:30:46.360 But you're so right about this.
00:30:49.440 The priorities just being completely skewed.
00:30:53.280 And the facts do point out that 70% of terrorist attacks in the UK are Islamist, correct? 0.66
00:31:02.740 Is that a solid number?
00:31:04.260 Yeah, exactly.
00:31:05.500 I did actually say that to the room.
00:31:07.800 I basically used the comparison of people who smoke and said that around 70% of lung
00:31:13.120 cancers are caused by smoking.
00:31:15.200 So you would expect it would be really counterproductive not to discuss that, just to not cause
00:31:20.540 offense to smokers, right?
00:31:22.040 So in that same logic, it'd be very bizarre not to discuss Islamist extremism just because
00:31:27.280 there are Muslims who would find that uncomfortable.
00:31:30.640 Right.
00:31:31.660 Right.
00:31:32.020 Smokers would find cancer uncomfortable if you kept pointing it out, too.
00:31:37.160 The overall, is this coming from a political correctness?
00:31:51.020 Is this coming from an anti-Jew?
00:31:54.980 Is this coming from...
00:31:56.440 Where did this start and what's the purpose behind it, do you think?
00:32:01.480 Look, it's one of those things that's hard to answer because I think it's so many things.
00:32:08.500 It's not just one thing, you know.
00:32:10.000 I think ultimately identity politics, the kind of worldview that puts power, views everything
00:32:15.860 through the lens of power.
00:32:17.060 Unfortunately, Jews often come out bottom there.
00:32:21.420 Well, they come out the top in the sense they're viewed at the top of the social hierarchy.
00:32:25.340 They're seen as possessing white privilege.
00:32:28.580 And also identity politics breeds the kind of things that says, one of the slides read,
00:32:33.620 condemning terrorism is to endorse the power of the strong over the weak.
00:32:37.660 And terrorism is not the problem, rather the systems may oppose the terrorists.
00:32:40.960 These are ideas which people often wrongly but do apply to Israel because they view Palestinians
00:32:48.480 as being unequal in kind of asymmetric warfare.
00:32:53.240 So they're really quite sinister stuff.
00:32:55.520 And even though I think people usually aren't overtly, explicitly anti-Semitic, the types of
00:33:01.120 identity politics that they end up consuming often end up affecting Jews and Israel, too,
00:33:08.200 as a consequence.
00:33:10.960 I read a story about Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker of the UK House of Commons.
00:33:17.980 And there was a diary note from his office that said he was going to meet with the Palestinian
00:33:23.840 ambassador to Britain last week, and that as part of a speaker-led diplomacy, we will be
00:33:31.480 flying the Palestinian flag in honor of the Palestinian ambassador.
00:33:35.740 But the problem is, there is no Palestinian ambassador.
00:33:40.640 Well, there's no state to be an ambassador of.
00:33:42.940 Right.
00:33:43.460 There's no state.
00:33:44.700 I mean, so what is happening?
00:33:48.440 I mean, exactly.
00:33:53.640 It's hard to say.
00:33:55.060 I mean, you know, I know that America and the UK and Europe, they're all experiencing mass
00:34:00.820 extremism on the streets, people coming out protesting in the name of pro-Palestine.
00:34:06.000 But actually, they're deeply anti-Semitic and anti-Israel.
00:34:10.020 But more importantly, perhaps for your show, they're not just anti-Semitic and anti-Israel.
00:34:14.020 They really are anti-Western.
00:34:16.840 They're anti-American ideals that I know you hold dearly.
00:34:19.760 And that is often at the crux of it, lying underneath, I think, influencing these people,
00:34:25.860 whether they're aware of it or not.
00:34:27.540 But I think actually, yeah, people are aware of it more than people give them credit for.
00:34:33.100 So we just had a whistleblower here in the United States testify in front of Congress that we have the American Pentagon
00:34:43.440 and our intelligence agencies, along with the British military intelligence,
00:34:51.320 working together with five eyes to spy on the American people and the Western people
00:34:59.280 to find those that are radical and then suppress them as much as possible, discredit,
00:35:08.100 even use banking as a way to separate them from society,
00:35:13.560 and if they have strong voices, to shut it down.
00:35:17.280 That I was talking about last week.
00:35:19.660 And then I read your story to where one of the lecturers said,
00:35:27.540 to what extent should Joe Rogan and Douglas Murray be suppressed?
00:35:31.720 They have millions of followers.
00:35:33.640 To deplatform them would cause issues.
00:35:37.600 So society needs to find other ways to suppress them.
00:35:42.100 What did they mean by that?
00:35:45.440 Oh, look, I mean, I was so godfaxed when I heard that.
00:35:49.580 I can, I only hope that he was speaking very freely and ad lit,
00:35:54.900 and he by no means intended those words to be as sinister as they sound.
00:36:00.000 I think he was really just revealing the types of sensorial views and inclinations that a lot of people have within academia.
00:36:11.220 And of course, he was talking to a room full of civil servants as well.
00:36:14.900 And you're right, there is a trend towards suppression of what is deemed as radical voices.
00:36:22.360 I referenced Douglas Murray.
00:36:24.280 I'm a massive fan of his and his writing.
00:36:27.440 But yeah, he's considered far right by this lecturer in counterterrorism.
00:36:33.880 And yeah, example also, Nigel Farage.
00:36:36.500 I believe his bank account was closed down because of his views as well, which is a deeply disturbing precedent to be set.
00:36:48.620 Where do the English people stand on this?
00:36:52.460 I mean, it seems as though as I watch Europe and even the acts of Brexit and what's happening here,
00:37:00.160 each country is being told it's just a few of these crazy whatever, you know, farmers or, you know, radical farmers or radical conservatives here in America, whatever it is.
00:37:15.400 But it seems to me the same message is coming from the people, and that is, I'd like my country back.
00:37:23.980 I'd like my rights back.
00:37:25.480 I'm tired of the elites telling us exactly what to do because you're screwing it up as elites.
00:37:33.740 We don't want any of this stuff.
00:37:36.280 Is that the feeling in England?
00:37:37.680 Yeah, I think it really depends who you talk to.
00:37:43.600 I think in England, a phrase that gets banded around a lot is the silent majority.
00:37:48.720 And it seems that we do have a kind of silent majority in the UK who are saying exactly the kind of thing you just said.
00:37:55.500 But in the civil service, very much in academia, it's very unpopular to talk about things like freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and talk about examples in society where they're coming under threat.
00:38:09.740 It's really considered something that the right, in averted commas, do.
00:38:14.000 I know you're speaking from America and, you know, people say right wing there more casually.
00:38:20.200 You really would never hear someone describing themselves as that in the UK, you know.
00:38:24.060 The types of things that advocates on the right in America are arguing for, freedom of expression and free speech.
00:38:31.900 It's really, yeah, it's really unpopular to do that in the UK, in the civil service and in academia.
00:38:37.720 And unfortunately, these are the institutions which influence policy.
00:38:43.080 So this course that I went on, you know, it's, how do I put it?
00:38:47.940 But it is deeply concerning because ultimately these are people who are making policy that will eventually potentially be the difference between life and death.
00:38:59.140 So, yeah, it's vitally important.
00:39:01.240 And that's why I hope to shed a light on it and what I experienced that.
00:39:06.080 Anna, I think you're very brave.
00:39:07.560 And I thank you for your voice and anything we can do to help amplify it because it's not just happening in America or England.
00:39:17.060 This is a threat to all of the Western world and the freedom, you know, the freedom just to be able to decide your own way in life and not have it dictated by people in high office that, you know, we're all becoming serfs again.
00:39:34.800 And that needs to stop.
00:39:37.320 So, Anna, thank you so much.
00:39:39.440 Thank you so much.
00:39:40.600 Thanks for calling.