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00:00:00.000 it's a good podcast today you don't want to miss the second of it uh not one second

00:00:04.720 some really good important things and laugh out loud funny as well here it is

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00:00:21.400 i've been following the new monkey pox czar um and uh he's a little controversial 0.57

00:00:32.400 his name is dr dimitri uh dassel daskalakis i think he has a long history in working public

00:00:42.100 health on issues pertaining to the lgbt uh community um he's helping lead the biden

00:00:48.000 administration response to the monkey pox outbreak now i want to give you the the lowdown on him from

00:00:55.000 the daily caller prior to serving in the white house uh the doctor was the director of the centers

00:01:00.580 for disease control and prevention cdc division of hiv prevention according to the statement he led

00:01:06.020 the new york city department of health and mental hygiene infectious diseases efforts and developed

00:01:11.300 a clinical practice focused on serving uh negligible uh lgbt communities over the course of his career

00:01:19.900 he's developed uh and deployed some unorthodox tactics to serve that demographic for instance he

00:01:27.360 operated an hiv and hepatitis screening clinic out of a small office inside a manhattan s&m club called

00:01:34.060 paddles where men could pay 40 to uh you know part with uh their coats and clothes and be paddled

00:01:42.120 he also has dressed in drag to administer meningitis vaccines at sex clubs and bathhouses during an

00:01:49.440 outbreak in new york um he is um he is known as a progressive radical gay doctor all right that's that's

00:02:01.060 the that's the label given to him by an hiv aids organization so they're on his side and they're like

00:02:08.580 radical um now npr just released an interview with the good doctor and they had eight questions with the

00:02:20.240 doctor about stopping the u.s monkey pox outbreak and reading and listening to him he sounds rather

00:02:27.800 reasonable but they didn't ask him all of the questions that perhaps should be asked um there is um

00:02:36.920 there is a uh a story out about some of the things that he has posted online that are a little uh

00:02:46.020 disturbing um he is a columbia university undergraduate uh general and religious double major

00:02:55.700 um and is some of his um some of his well you know starting with a tattoo on his chest of the pentagram

00:03:06.160 appears as though he kind of digs satan a bit um alongside his his partner michael mcneil uh the pair

00:03:16.680 launched a goth gym in new york which originally uh ran out of um the uh high profile equinox gym chain

00:03:25.100 before spinning into its own brand based on a in a former gay nightclub that in turn had taken over

00:03:31.860 an old church in manhattan it's called uh monster cycle and it's got a lot of stuff on their website

00:03:39.600 you know references to satanism the devil burning crosses pentagrams you know the usual stuff for your 0.97

00:03:46.380 gym um he um he has a tattoo of the pentagram on his chest and it says i've learned there's light

00:03:56.820 even in the darkest of places um along with that he is apparently has a corpse of a dead uh creature

00:04:04.600 of some sort of serpent also a head with three eyes what appears to be a saint-like figure or even

00:04:10.200 maybe jesus christ across his uh his stomach um and in his um in his posts which now have been removed

00:04:19.980 uh there was a series of images from 2012 that appear to depict a seance there i mean they're at a

00:04:26.480 ouija board ceremony with a loose uh with a lit crucifix um that was laying on the pentagram on

00:04:34.440 on the table um you know uh he's got an image wearing a pentagram helmet with an upside down

00:04:42.900 cross above it uh and his partner is dressed i guess like christ if that's with a crown of thorns

00:04:51.060 uh and then you know he's got the post that says we'll steal your soul uh all of these you know all

00:04:58.160 of these things now the press says well he's just entertaining well yeah i i i guess if that's what

00:05:06.420 you um you know if that's what you like there's a lot more of this kind of stuff but that doesn't

00:05:12.800 make you necessarily a satanist and let me just let me play devil's uh advocate here possibly um

00:05:21.220 truly devil's advocate um let's say that you believe this guy's just a

00:05:28.020 performer and you can reach the community that most people need you know the people that are

00:05:32.780 really in need he's there he's got it you know and he's just a performer and you know maybe there's

00:05:39.680 a chance that he's not a performer i don't know but if that's true let me ask you who refused the

00:05:47.620 covid vaccine at the highest rate and was covid a bigger risk than monkeypox to the general population

00:05:54.760 the answer to that according to the president is clearly yes well donald trump volunteered to speak

00:06:03.360 up and let the white house biden use him many conservatives even took the vaccine but no one was

00:06:09.980 ever asked to be a spokesperson the biden administration never took up that vile donald trump

00:06:15.700 who was saying the same things they were about the vaccine so if you're truly willing to deal with

00:06:22.460 the devil to protect people why would you do it this time and not then by the way this brings up

00:06:30.400 some disturbing things you know we're not talking about somebody that is you know in a in an offshoot

00:06:37.900 kind of thing like yeah he's going to be deciding the color of green in our stoplights this guy is

00:06:43.780 part of the medical community on our health care system the same system that lied about the effects

00:06:50.420 of covid the same system that never stood for our children never told us about the vaccines or even

00:06:57.400 our children's the effects of isolation in fact denied those things is anybody concerned about the doctors

00:07:05.640 that we are now putting together that are not treating people they disagree with over vaccines or hate

00:07:12.480 there is a perversion of the hippocratic oath that is happening right now which is first do no harm

00:07:19.880 first do no harm is that what we're doing with our children

00:07:24.280 is anybody worried about the corruption of the cdc

00:07:28.960 fauci the merger of government pharmaceutical companies and doctors cutting parents out of the

00:07:38.020 medical decisions life and death sex and gender pregnancies all of these things cutting the parents

00:07:44.860 out of that line willing to allow babies to die or be killed after birth

00:07:51.580 i don't know i i i think we should probably pay attention to what's going on but the problem is

00:07:59.860 we don't recognize evil anymore i never understood that good would become evil and evil would be good

00:08:08.180 would become good i never understood how could that possibly happen well now we know now we know

00:08:16.000 a very well executed uh propaganda machine that starts in our schools and teaches the things that we

00:08:28.500 think are no big deal and it gets worse and worse and worse and at the same time they delete all of the truth

00:08:37.080 until it gets to a point to where the people wake up and is it too late

00:08:41.520 my answer to you is it's not too late we just have to decide what evil is is it evil to sexually abuse

00:08:54.660 or and let me define that somebody who has a attraction to minors who is an adult

00:09:02.100 decides they're going to have sex with a very willing eight-year-old

00:09:06.840 is that evil or not say it out loud yes it's evil if you disagree with me here you got a long ride on

00:09:18.480 and you are part of the problem if you're neutral on that or unwilling to say that you are part of the problem

00:09:26.560 and you will be swept up into the other side and you don't want to be there

00:09:32.440 is it evil

00:09:36.120 to show sex acts

00:09:38.820 to minors

00:09:39.860 to teach them how to perform

00:09:42.840 sex acts

00:09:44.060 is it evil

00:09:46.680 to have drag queens

00:09:49.420 come into our schools where kids can put dollar bills

00:09:52.280 into their g-string

00:09:54.160 or just

00:09:56.320 hand it to them

00:09:57.760 is it evil to indoctrinate children into hopelessness

00:10:03.240 and hate

00:10:04.320 for the family

00:10:05.580 hate for god

00:10:07.120 hate for their own country

00:10:09.080 is it evil

00:10:11.180 to force people in

00:10:12.960 to medical experiments

00:10:15.320 is it evil to dismember or amputate perfectly good limbs or appendages on a healthy body

00:10:24.700 is it evil

00:10:27.100 to endorse

00:10:28.620 and excuse

00:10:30.120 mass looting

00:10:32.460 to encourage

00:10:35.560 anybody to just go into a store and take what they want and leave

00:10:40.880 is it evil

00:10:43.240 to burn down whole cities

00:10:46.720 to encourage that

00:10:49.900 or to excuse it

00:10:51.620 is it evil

00:10:53.620 to intentionally destroy families

00:10:56.840 to intentionally destroy

00:10:59.120 gender

00:11:00.680 to say there is no such thing as a woman

00:11:04.740 no such thing as a man 0.79

00:11:07.240 is it evil

00:11:09.600 is it evil

00:11:10.180 to cancel free speech

00:11:12.140 in a much more widespread way

00:11:14.140 than the red scare

00:11:15.740 is it evil to preach

00:11:19.980 color of skin

00:11:21.540 over content

00:11:23.180 of character

00:11:24.100 15 years ago

00:11:25.960 10 years ago

00:11:26.580 I could have given that list

00:11:27.600 and everyone in the country

00:11:29.580 even Bill Maher

00:11:30.920 even

00:11:31.880 Joe Biden

00:11:33.300 would have absolutely said

00:11:35.440 even if it was just for performance

00:11:38.060 they all would have said

00:11:40.160 of course those things are evil

00:11:42.140 now

00:11:44.420 our system is pushing and preaching these things

00:11:48.580 look

00:11:49.300 you don't need to be some hero

00:11:51.020 you don't need to be Martin Luther King

00:11:53.400 you don't need to be Dietrich Bonhoeffer

00:11:56.060 all you have to do

00:11:58.080 is just recognize

00:12:00.200 the difference

00:12:01.260 between good

00:12:02.260 and evil

00:12:03.640 that's it

00:12:04.820 just recognize it

00:12:06.260 no that's evil

00:12:07.200 I can't do that

00:12:08.000 nope

00:12:09.140 that's

00:12:09.640 that's evil

00:12:10.680 so what is the opposing force

00:12:15.380 of evil

00:12:16.020 because I guess that's what you have to be

00:12:18.720 it's not good enough

00:12:19.700 as they say now

00:12:21.480 it's not good enough

00:12:22.740 just to be against racism

00:12:24.080 you have to be an anti-racist

00:12:26.200 well that seems evil

00:12:28.640 because

00:12:29.260 that

00:12:30.020 is just getting revenge

00:12:32.800 that's participating in the thing

00:12:35.740 you say has been so destructive

00:12:38.060 of human beings

00:12:39.680 and I agree with you

00:12:40.880 so now why would we do that

00:12:45.060 so how do you fight

00:12:47.340 evil

00:12:48.420 we don't recognize evil anymore

00:12:50.560 but do we recognize good

00:12:52.640 do we recognize good

00:12:55.740 what is good

00:12:58.500 is love good

00:13:01.040 love is good

00:13:02.940 real

00:13:03.920 true love

00:13:04.800 if you understand the definition of love

00:13:06.860 love is good

00:13:08.220 but love is God

00:13:09.560 if you don't believe that

00:13:12.960 God is love

00:13:14.320 then you've got a screwed up definition of

00:13:16.660 God

00:13:17.700 and love

00:13:18.600 there is no fear

00:13:20.960 in God

00:13:22.320 well have you read the Bible

00:13:24.620 it's a pretty scary thing

00:13:25.720 yeah you know

00:13:26.360 the last part is kind of scary

00:13:27.840 why

00:13:28.360 was that given to us

00:13:30.460 that was given to us

00:13:31.960 so we would not

00:13:33.040 fear

00:13:33.680 and we would be prepared

00:13:35.940 for when

00:13:37.040 what does they say

00:13:37.960 would happen

00:13:38.620 good becomes evil

00:13:40.100 and evil becomes good

00:13:41.220 you'd be prepared

00:13:42.980 so there is no fear

00:13:45.760 in love

00:13:46.800 and love is more than just words

00:13:51.060 it's action

00:13:52.020 it should be the main driving characteristic

00:13:54.880 of each of us

00:13:56.380 it's not of me

00:13:57.780 I try

00:13:59.060 but it's not of me

00:14:00.160 love is patient

00:14:02.460 love is kind

00:14:03.560 it does not envy

00:14:04.680 now remember

00:14:05.260 so when he's saying what it is

00:14:07.140 it also says what it isn't

00:14:09.720 so

00:14:11.220 a meritocracy

00:14:12.820 does that involve

00:14:15.480 envy

00:14:16.380 no it shouldn't

00:14:20.140 a meritocracy

00:14:20.820 is just

00:14:21.740 based on the color

00:14:23.300 not of the color of your skin

00:14:24.560 but on the content of your character

00:14:25.720 and what you do

00:14:26.780 with your life

00:14:27.520 and why should anybody

00:14:29.100 be envious of that

00:14:30.080 they have their own thing

00:14:31.120 love is kind

00:14:33.880 it does not boast

00:14:35.480 it is not proud

00:14:36.580 it does not dishonor others

00:14:39.180 it's not self-seeking

00:14:40.680 it's not easily angered

00:14:42.980 it keeps no record of wrongs

00:14:45.600 it keeps no record of wrongs

00:14:48.700 it does not delight in evil

00:14:51.440 but rejoices with the truth

00:14:53.160 and it always protects

00:14:54.580 always trust

00:14:55.480 always hopes

00:14:56.300 always perseveres

00:14:57.520 love

00:14:58.340 never fails

00:14:59.700 this was written by a guy

00:15:02.540 who didn't believe in Jesus

00:15:04.300 in fact

00:15:04.640 was killing all the guys

00:15:06.600 that liked Jesus

00:15:07.920 till he kind of had an encounter

00:15:09.720 he's like

00:15:10.080 whoops

00:15:10.480 I was wrong

00:15:11.420 hey

00:15:12.300 first thing

00:15:13.300 redemption

00:15:13.940 and don't hate the guy

00:15:16.240 who was literally

00:15:18.020 killing your people 1.00

00:15:19.480 let him go

00:15:21.240 if he's changed his life

00:15:22.480 if he's

00:15:22.960 if he's honest about it

00:15:24.520 great

00:15:25.160 because he might be

00:15:27.280 the biggest spokesperson

00:15:28.780 he might bring to the table

00:15:30.660 something no one else can bring

00:15:32.500 and he talked about

00:15:36.000 love

00:15:37.500 he's the one who wrote

00:15:38.400 all of that

00:15:39.120 and he wrote it to

00:15:40.680 because the church

00:15:41.600 at the time

00:15:42.340 was really

00:15:43.640 they weren't demonstrating

00:15:45.400 love

00:15:46.140 and he said

00:15:52.980 if I

00:15:53.300 if I speak in tongues

00:15:54.660 of men

00:15:55.940 or of angels

00:15:56.780 in other words

00:15:57.260 if I'm talking about

00:15:58.240 all these great things

00:15:59.180 but I don't have any love

00:16:00.860 in my heart

00:16:01.500 I'm just making noise

00:16:03.640 what are we doing

00:16:05.640 right now

00:16:06.280 how many of us

00:16:07.280 are talking about

00:16:07.880 what we believe in

00:16:08.840 or what we're against

00:16:10.520 but we don't truly

00:16:12.840 have love

00:16:13.460 in our heart

00:16:14.440 for the people

00:16:15.060 who are now

00:16:15.840 persecuting us

00:16:16.920 that's what this message

00:16:19.480 was all about

00:16:20.500 it

00:16:24.460 it means

00:16:25.460 love is patient

00:16:26.940 it means loving someone

00:16:28.720 even when you

00:16:30.140 really don't want to

00:16:32.020 that's how I always

00:16:33.280 that's how I always

00:16:34.240 know something

00:16:34.760 is from God

00:16:35.420 oh no please

00:16:37.160 no no

00:16:37.580 I don't

00:16:37.840 no not that

00:16:38.500 I don't want to

00:16:39.120 do that

00:16:39.500 when you really

00:16:43.200 don't want to

00:16:43.880 love somebody

00:16:44.520 that's when

00:16:46.280 you're supposed

00:16:47.220 to

00:16:47.660 but don't

00:16:49.840 don't

00:16:50.260 don't

00:16:50.480 don't confuse

00:16:51.280 this

00:16:51.660 this does not

00:16:53.640 mean

00:16:54.120 you love

00:16:55.620 evil

00:16:56.240 it means

00:16:57.540 you stand up

00:16:58.960 for truth

00:17:00.000 again

00:17:00.960 you don't need

00:17:02.160 to be some

00:17:02.840 hero

00:17:03.200 this is very

00:17:04.380 easy for all

00:17:05.640 of us to do

00:17:06.440 you don't have

00:17:07.720 to start

00:17:08.320 some organization

00:17:09.300 you don't have

00:17:10.220 to join

00:17:10.940 any march

00:17:11.740 you don't have

00:17:12.160 to do anything

00:17:12.860 you just

00:17:14.460 in your realm

00:17:15.580 never

00:17:16.800 ever

00:17:17.800 tolerate

00:17:18.840 lies

00:17:20.000 on things

00:17:21.280 that you

00:17:21.840 know

00:17:22.480 are

00:17:23.080 untrue

00:17:24.400 sexualization

00:17:26.380 of our children

00:17:27.160 is bad

00:17:28.720 evil

00:17:29.780 exists

00:17:30.880 and it

00:17:31.860 has

00:17:32.140 conned

00:17:32.860 a good

00:17:33.420 number

00:17:33.960 of our

00:17:34.700 society

00:17:35.320 into

00:17:35.760 believing

00:17:36.360 evil

00:17:36.980 over

00:17:38.240 truth

00:17:39.060 and good

00:17:39.800 and more

00:17:40.760 importantly

00:17:41.240 it's

00:17:41.680 captivated

00:17:42.360 many

00:17:42.880 of our

00:17:43.660 hearts

00:17:44.100 in believing

00:17:45.500 you can't

00:17:46.200 win

00:17:46.560 or to

00:17:47.080 stay

00:17:47.300 silent

00:17:47.800 this

00:17:52.420 is the

00:17:53.100 best

00:17:53.520 of the

00:17:53.880 Glenn Beck

00:17:54.200 program

00:17:54.680 there is

00:18:01.380 a must

00:18:01.760 read book

00:18:02.240 that has

00:18:02.540 just come

00:18:02.900 out

00:18:03.080 called

00:18:03.300 nation

00:18:03.740 of

00:18:04.080 victims

00:18:04.620 identity

00:18:05.440 politics

00:18:06.180 the

00:18:07.300 death

00:18:07.760 of

00:18:08.080 merit

00:18:08.400 and the

00:18:08.620 path

00:18:08.820 back

00:18:09.060 to

00:18:09.240 excellence

00:18:09.760 it is

00:18:10.240 out

00:18:10.600 today

00:18:11.320 the

00:18:12.200 vague

00:18:12.500 ramishwamy

00:18:13.200 is the

00:18:14.400 author

00:18:14.800 and he

00:18:15.480 joins

00:18:15.760 me now

00:18:16.260 the

00:18:17.020 vague

00:18:17.200 first

00:18:17.500 question

00:18:17.960 and

00:18:18.980 don't

00:18:19.540 hate me

00:18:19.820 for this

00:18:20.240 if I

00:18:20.620 if I've

00:18:21.200 had it

00:18:21.460 wrong

00:18:21.680 the

00:18:21.820 whole

00:18:21.960 time

00:18:22.240 I

00:18:23.020 am

00:18:23.320 the

00:18:23.540 worst

00:18:24.340 on

00:18:25.040 names

00:18:25.420 the

00:18:25.840 worst

00:18:26.220 and

00:18:26.860 every

00:18:27.220 time

00:18:27.560 I

00:18:27.760 see

00:18:28.000 you

00:18:28.160 on

00:18:28.320 a

00:18:28.420 show

00:18:28.580 you

00:18:28.760 never

00:18:29.080 correct

00:18:29.540 anybody

00:18:30.020 and

00:18:30.640 they're

00:18:30.820 always

00:18:31.140 pronouncing

00:18:31.640 your

00:18:31.840 name

00:18:32.100 a

00:18:32.320 different

00:18:32.560 way

00:18:32.920 am

00:18:34.360 I

00:18:34.520 getting

00:18:34.880 it

00:18:35.200 wrong

00:18:36.480 and

00:18:36.680 you're

00:18:36.840 just

00:18:36.980 being

00:18:37.160 very

00:18:37.380 polite

00:18:38.000 or

00:18:38.740 is

00:18:39.180 the

00:18:39.460 way

00:18:40.360 you

00:18:40.560 say

00:18:40.940 your

00:18:41.160 name

00:18:41.420 the

00:18:42.660 vague

00:18:42.960 is

00:18:43.120 right

00:18:43.380 the

00:18:43.560 vague

00:18:43.780 like

00:18:44.020 take

00:18:44.340 brahmaswamy

00:18:45.440 brahmaswamy

00:18:46.420 brahmaswamy

00:18:47.180 brahmaswamy

00:18:47.980 yep

00:18:48.320 okay

00:18:49.220 got it

00:18:49.660 exactly

00:18:50.220 yeah

00:18:50.820 you know

00:18:51.040 those

00:18:51.420 TV hits

00:18:52.360 you usually

00:18:52.700 get like

00:18:53.160 three to

00:18:53.480 four minutes

00:18:53.880 I prefer

00:18:54.220 to talk

00:18:54.560 about

00:18:54.740 content

00:18:55.220 but since

00:18:55.560 you ask

00:18:55.940 yeah

00:18:56.220 I love

00:18:56.620 it

00:18:56.740 yeah

00:18:56.980 okay

00:18:57.220 so

00:18:57.800 so

00:18:58.220 Vivek

00:18:58.560 I just

00:18:58.860 out of

00:18:59.260 respect

00:18:59.500 for you

00:18:59.980 I just

00:19:00.720 because I'm

00:19:01.340 watching it

00:19:01.820 and I'm

00:19:02.060 so paranoid

00:19:02.560 I always

00:19:02.940 get things

00:19:03.300 wrong

00:19:03.560 on names

00:19:04.860 always

00:19:05.680 even

00:19:06.160 my wife

00:19:07.160 I would

00:19:07.480 screw up

00:19:07.860 her name

00:19:08.200 I just

00:19:09.760 wanted to

00:19:10.040 make sure

00:19:10.360 okay

00:19:10.720 so

00:19:10.920 Nation of

00:19:12.360 Victims

00:19:12.800 is out

00:19:13.660 and you're

00:19:15.340 known at least

00:19:15.840 on this

00:19:16.160 program as

00:19:16.860 somebody who

00:19:17.420 is very

00:19:17.860 into

00:19:19.660 you know

00:19:20.440 against it

00:19:21.720 you are

00:19:22.800 doing everything

00:19:23.260 you can

00:19:23.780 to bring

00:19:24.240 back

00:19:24.600 merit

00:19:25.160 this book

00:19:26.680 does not

00:19:27.340 really deal

00:19:28.140 with ESG

00:19:28.960 or anything

00:19:29.300 like that

00:19:29.820 this is

00:19:30.540 the answer

00:19:31.280 in our

00:19:32.520 own lives

00:19:33.300 would you

00:19:34.920 agree

00:19:35.120 that's right

00:19:35.380 Glenn

00:19:35.620 I would

00:19:36.660 agree

00:19:36.880 I mean

00:19:37.080 look

00:19:37.280 I think

00:19:37.500 that there's

00:19:37.800 two sides

00:19:38.460 to this

00:19:38.860 equation

00:19:39.320 right

00:19:39.520 even if

00:19:39.780 you think

00:19:39.980 about the

00:19:40.220 kind of

00:19:40.420 stuff

00:19:40.620 we usually

00:19:41.080 talk about

00:19:41.500 in this

00:19:41.700 program

00:19:42.020 the kind

00:19:42.340 of stuff

00:19:42.640 I'm

00:19:42.840 working on

00:19:43.240 in the

00:19:43.380 private

00:19:43.600 sector

00:19:43.980 yes

00:19:44.640 that is

00:19:45.060 about

00:19:45.300 corporate

00:19:45.880 meddling

00:19:46.380 in our

00:19:46.940 culture

00:19:47.320 it is about

00:19:47.880 the use

00:19:48.780 of corporate

00:19:49.400 power

00:19:49.780 to advance

00:19:50.440 one-sided

00:19:51.100 progressive

00:19:51.620 agendas

00:19:52.020 but it

00:19:52.800 takes two

00:19:53.340 to tango

00:19:53.940 what do I

00:19:54.360 mean by

00:19:54.660 that

00:19:54.900 it also

00:19:55.480 takes a

00:19:55.900 population

00:19:56.460 and a

00:19:56.940 consumer

00:19:57.320 base

00:19:57.640 that's

00:19:57.940 willing

00:19:58.180 to buy

00:19:58.740 those

00:19:59.020 narratives

00:19:59.440 and use

00:20:00.320 that to

00:20:00.740 actually be

00:20:01.220 moved by

00:20:01.720 it

00:20:01.840 and so

00:20:02.040 what this

00:20:02.480 book is

00:20:02.740 about

00:20:02.940 is the

00:20:03.220 broader

00:20:03.420 cultural

00:20:03.840 question

00:20:04.320 why is

00:20:05.300 it that

00:20:05.820 consumers

00:20:06.680 are so

00:20:07.220 hungry

00:20:07.560 for a

00:20:07.980 cause

00:20:08.400 and purpose

00:20:09.140 and meaning

00:20:09.740 and identity

00:20:10.320 that they

00:20:11.160 fall for

00:20:11.660 these

00:20:11.860 victimhood

00:20:12.380 narratives

00:20:12.920 that companies

00:20:14.000 and other

00:20:14.360 cynical

00:20:14.640 actors

00:20:15.100 sell them

00:20:15.740 that's what

00:20:16.140 this book

00:20:16.500 is about

00:20:16.820 and the

00:20:17.280 case I

00:20:17.620 make in

00:20:17.900 this book

00:20:18.340 is that

00:20:19.020 we've

00:20:19.240 fallen into

00:20:19.780 a moment

00:20:20.220 in our

00:20:20.580 history

00:20:20.880 where we

00:20:21.260 see

00:20:21.480 hardship

00:20:21.960 as the

00:20:22.480 same

00:20:22.700 thing

00:20:23.000 as

00:20:23.240 victimhood

00:20:23.900 well guess

00:20:24.620 what my

00:20:25.060 thesis is

00:20:25.660 that hardship

00:20:26.160 is not the

00:20:26.960 same thing

00:20:27.300 as victimhood

00:20:27.920 hardship is

00:20:28.880 part of what

00:20:29.440 teaches us

00:20:30.060 who we are

00:20:30.720 both as

00:20:31.480 individuals

00:20:32.080 and as

00:20:32.740 a people

00:20:33.300 and I

00:20:34.140 think the

00:20:34.480 black hole

00:20:35.400 at the

00:20:35.880 vacuum

00:20:36.280 of the

00:20:36.560 Americans

00:20:36.900 and the

00:20:37.240 vacuum

00:20:37.560 at the

00:20:37.800 heart of

00:20:37.980 the American

00:20:38.260 soul

00:20:38.620 right now

00:20:39.280 is our

00:20:40.120 absence of

00:20:40.700 a shared

00:20:41.180 national

00:20:41.760 identity

00:20:42.280 and the

00:20:42.720 case I

00:20:43.160 make in

00:20:43.540 this book

00:20:44.040 is that

00:20:44.920 we can

00:20:45.580 fill that

00:20:46.200 vacuum

00:20:46.660 with a

00:20:47.580 shared

00:20:48.080 national

00:20:48.700 identity

00:20:49.220 based on

00:20:49.780 the

00:20:49.940 unapologetic

00:20:50.860 pursuit

00:20:51.360 of

00:20:51.700 excellence

00:20:52.360 through our

00:20:53.060 system of

00:20:53.540 free market

00:20:53.940 capitalism

00:20:54.520 and as

00:20:55.480 individuals who

00:20:56.380 are free

00:20:56.860 agents in

00:20:57.560 the world

00:20:57.900 regardless of

00:20:58.740 the color

00:20:59.100 of our skin

00:20:59.660 or where

00:21:00.340 our parents

00:21:00.820 came from

00:21:01.440 that's why

00:21:02.140 I wrote

00:21:02.320 this book

00:21:02.660 so where

00:21:03.240 do you

00:21:03.560 think the

00:21:04.360 big turning

00:21:04.880 point

00:21:05.140 because I

00:21:05.460 think it

00:21:05.680 was 2008

00:21:06.620 when the

00:21:07.840 bailout

00:21:08.280 happened

00:21:08.760 we're now

00:21:09.480 doing all

00:21:10.280 of that

00:21:10.580 and it

00:21:11.080 was the

00:21:11.500 end of

00:21:12.180 personal

00:21:12.840 responsibility

00:21:13.640 for

00:21:14.640 corporations

00:21:15.320 it really

00:21:15.700 was

00:21:16.000 it really

00:21:16.940 was the

00:21:17.460 death of

00:21:17.680 personal

00:21:17.900 responsibility

00:21:18.420 at every

00:21:19.040 level of

00:21:19.560 society

00:21:20.000 so I

00:21:20.260 think 2008

00:21:20.940 was a big

00:21:21.440 turning point

00:21:21.960 for a lot

00:21:22.560 of reasons

00:21:22.960 what happened

00:21:23.820 in 2008

00:21:24.140 we had the

00:21:24.380 2008

00:21:24.740 financial crisis

00:21:25.360 we had the

00:21:26.220 bailouts

00:21:26.680 we had no

00:21:27.340 accountability

00:21:27.800 for a lot

00:21:29.000 of financial

00:21:29.440 institutions

00:21:29.940 that took

00:21:30.800 risk at the

00:21:31.500 public

00:21:31.880 fisk

00:21:33.760 when times

00:21:34.760 were good

00:21:35.140 they got

00:21:35.460 paid

00:21:35.780 when times

00:21:36.260 went bad

00:21:36.600 the public

00:21:36.980 had to

00:21:37.280 bail them

00:21:37.580 out

00:21:37.820 but that

00:21:38.400 was also

00:21:38.840 the birth

00:21:39.600 of the

00:21:40.140 identity

00:21:40.500 politic

00:21:41.060 wing

00:21:41.480 of the

00:21:41.900 new

00:21:42.060 left

00:21:42.320 it was

00:21:42.540 Barack

00:21:42.860 Obama

00:21:43.200 elected

00:21:43.700 as the

00:21:44.360 first

00:21:44.580 black

00:21:44.880 president

00:21:45.140 of the

00:21:45.280 United

00:21:45.420 States

00:21:45.740 a lot

00:21:46.000 of the

00:21:46.180 victimhood

00:21:46.640 narratives

00:21:47.060 that went

00:21:47.700 with that

00:21:48.220 were also

00:21:49.000 in the

00:21:49.480 thick

00:21:49.740 of the

00:21:50.020 greatest

00:21:50.320 intergenerational

00:21:51.200 wealth

00:21:51.500 transfer

00:21:51.980 in human

00:21:52.520 history

00:21:52.920 from the

00:21:53.820 baby boomer

00:21:54.300 generation

00:21:54.760 to my

00:21:55.180 generation

00:21:55.580 of millennials

00:21:56.140 and Gen Z

00:21:57.020 and I

00:21:57.940 think that

00:21:58.220 creates a new

00:21:58.760 victimhood

00:21:59.220 culture and a

00:22:01.880 so there

00:22:02.460 were a lot

00:22:02.880 of things

00:22:03.220 around the

00:22:03.820 turn of

00:22:04.280 the last

00:22:04.700 decade

00:22:05.100 there were

00:22:05.420 a lot

00:22:05.640 of factors

00:22:06.100 in our

00:22:06.420 culture

00:22:06.720 that conspired

00:22:07.560 to create

00:22:08.640 this new

00:22:09.280 culture of

00:22:10.240 victimhood

00:22:11.120 and one

00:22:11.560 of the

00:22:11.780 things I

00:22:12.320 describe in

00:22:13.960 the book

00:22:14.200 is also

00:22:14.500 the rise

00:22:14.920 of a

00:22:15.180 laziness

00:22:15.580 culture

00:22:16.160 even in

00:22:16.860 our

00:22:17.000 workforce

00:22:17.580 but in

00:22:18.420 our

00:22:18.580 culture

00:22:18.920 more broadly

00:22:19.640 and one

00:22:20.720 of the

00:22:20.920 things I

00:22:21.380 say in

00:22:21.560 the book

00:22:21.800 is that

00:22:22.120 victimhood

00:22:22.800 fits

00:22:23.240 laziness

00:22:23.940 like a

00:22:24.620 glove

00:22:24.980 and that

00:22:25.840 people today

00:22:26.960 who are

00:22:27.360 lazy and

00:22:28.020 don't want

00:22:28.620 to work

00:22:29.140 construe

00:22:29.940 that not

00:22:30.440 just as

00:22:31.240 their own

00:22:31.660 sloth

00:22:32.180 which is

00:22:32.520 one of

00:22:32.720 the human

00:22:33.100 vices

00:22:33.480 but also

00:22:34.680 as a

00:22:35.600 narrative of

00:22:35.980 the grand

00:22:36.440 fight against

00:22:37.200 the oppression

00:22:37.860 of capitalism

00:22:39.160 the oppression

00:22:40.120 of modernity

00:22:41.360 the colonialism

00:22:42.060 of capitalism

00:22:42.960 and these are

00:22:43.320 the kinds of

00:22:43.780 things you hear

00:22:44.500 as part of

00:22:45.360 the great

00:22:45.740 resignation

00:22:46.340 on reddit

00:22:47.220 in the

00:22:47.700 pandemic

00:22:48.540 over the

00:22:49.160 started back

00:22:49.860 in the post

00:22:50.280 2008 era

00:22:51.160 and I think

00:22:52.000 it was the

00:22:52.500 combination of

00:22:53.440 a new

00:22:53.740 laziness

00:22:54.220 culture of

00:22:54.920 entitlement

00:22:55.420 that came

00:22:56.060 from my

00:22:56.840 generation

00:22:57.280 being on

00:22:57.700 the receiving

00:22:58.100 end of

00:22:58.440 this large

00:22:58.860 intergenerational

00:22:59.520 wealth transfer

00:23:00.200 but combined

00:23:01.380 with these

00:23:01.780 victimhood

00:23:02.240 narratives

00:23:02.560 that justified

00:23:03.280 that laziness

00:23:04.080 with a moral

00:23:05.140 veneer

00:23:05.660 that's part

00:23:06.560 of what led

00:23:06.940 to us

00:23:07.540 now having

00:23:08.080 a shared

00:23:08.380 national identity

00:23:09.040 based on

00:23:09.680 victimhood

00:23:10.500 we're a nation

00:23:11.000 of victims

00:23:11.440 and I think

00:23:12.740 the case I make

00:23:13.320 is we need to

00:23:13.660 graduate from that

00:23:14.300 you talk about

00:23:16.360 Plato's ideal

00:23:17.400 society

00:23:17.940 and you talk

00:23:19.220 about it

00:23:19.600 because you

00:23:20.160 say you know

00:23:21.040 that's how we

00:23:21.720 find the ideal

00:23:22.500 citizen

00:23:22.900 what is the

00:23:24.040 ideal citizen

00:23:25.040 in 2022

00:23:26.340 in America

00:23:28.320 I mean this is

00:23:28.840 this is the

00:23:29.320 question of our

00:23:29.960 hour okay

00:23:30.540 so I think

00:23:31.560 there are two

00:23:32.060 parts to what

00:23:33.120 it means to be

00:23:33.700 American and I

00:23:34.300 think each of us

00:23:34.900 has some of

00:23:35.440 this in our

00:23:35.840 heart on one

00:23:36.940 hand we all

00:23:37.600 want to be

00:23:38.320 an individual

00:23:39.140 who's able to

00:23:40.260 pursue our

00:23:40.720 own individualistic

00:23:41.780 dreams through

00:23:42.580 the system of

00:23:43.540 free market

00:23:43.940 capitalism

00:23:44.400 that's what we

00:23:44.800 think of as

00:23:45.280 the American

00:23:45.780 dream I have

00:23:46.860 that impulse

00:23:47.340 you have that

00:23:47.840 impulse most of

00:23:48.760 the listeners in

00:23:49.440 this program share

00:23:50.160 that feeling too

00:23:50.840 that's half the

00:23:52.060 story that's what

00:23:52.720 I call the

00:23:53.200 pursuit of

00:23:54.480 excellence the

00:23:55.560 unapologetic

00:23:56.180 pursuit of

00:23:56.580 excellence but

00:23:57.620 I think there's

00:23:58.040 another half of

00:23:58.840 the story too

00:23:59.520 Glenn I think

00:23:59.920 that many on

00:24:00.580 the right many

00:24:01.200 of us have

00:24:02.040 missed for

00:24:02.680 years which is

00:24:03.880 also our hunger

00:24:04.900 to be part of

00:24:06.000 a nation that

00:24:06.980 is greater than

00:24:08.100 the sum of its

00:24:08.680 parts a

00:24:09.760 collective whole

00:24:10.980 as citizens and

00:24:12.720 that's the side

00:24:13.300 of our identity

00:24:13.800 as individuals

00:24:14.360 but really I

00:24:15.680 think revolves

00:24:16.500 around also the

00:24:17.260 revival of civic

00:24:18.160 duty one of the

00:24:19.620 chapters in the

00:24:20.200 book is entitled

00:24:20.900 a theory of

00:24:21.880 duty it's a play

00:24:22.780 on John Rawls's

00:24:23.740 a theory of

00:24:24.340 justice which was

00:24:25.460 the north star of

00:24:26.440 the left for much

00:24:27.120 of the late 20th

00:24:27.780 century I offer

00:24:28.960 what I call a

00:24:29.680 theory of duty

00:24:30.560 which talks about

00:24:31.260 the revival of

00:24:32.040 civic duty and

00:24:33.540 the case I make

00:24:34.180 is that it's not

00:24:34.760 at odds with

00:24:35.460 liberty to have a

00:24:36.440 civic duty our

00:24:37.700 civic duty as

00:24:38.500 citizens is

00:24:39.200 different than the

00:24:40.460 freedoms we want

00:24:41.200 to have in all of

00:24:42.220 the other spheres

00:24:42.780 of our lives

00:24:43.340 including economically

00:24:44.200 and I think it's

00:24:45.040 one of the things

00:24:45.520 that conservatives

00:24:45.980 sometimes get

00:24:46.680 wrong we get

00:24:47.300 wrong in our

00:24:48.240 in our obsession

00:24:49.120 with just talking

00:24:49.920 about freedom and

00:24:50.560 believe me I'm 10

00:24:51.440 out of a scale of

00:24:52.020 10 on that

00:24:52.960 discussion we miss

00:24:54.380 the fact if we

00:24:55.520 have civic duties

00:24:56.480 as citizens that

00:24:57.400 actually gives us

00:24:58.500 greater fortitude to

00:24:59.880 pursue our freedoms

00:25:00.880 through the system

00:25:01.920 of free market

00:25:02.420 capitalism through

00:25:03.540 our pursuit of

00:25:04.080 excellence as

00:25:04.760 individuals and

00:25:05.460 that's the

00:25:05.920 philosophy at the

00:25:06.640 heart of this book

00:25:07.180 I'm old enough

00:25:08.300 that you know

00:25:09.220 in high school

00:25:09.620 you couldn't

00:25:10.180 graduate without

00:25:10.940 having a class

00:25:12.500 called rights and

00:25:13.740 responsibilities and

00:25:15.660 we've forgotten the

00:25:16.700 responsibility part and

00:25:18.040 that is like you say

00:25:19.120 huge but you know I

00:25:21.180 learned something when

00:25:21.960 I lived in in New

00:25:23.760 York City when I

00:25:25.180 moved to New York

00:25:25.960 City I was always a

00:25:26.920 guy who if there was

00:25:27.800 garbage on the street I

00:25:28.900 would you know pick it

00:25:29.660 up and throw it in the

00:25:30.400 garbage can and it was

00:25:32.400 just ingrained in me I

00:25:33.940 grew up in a smaller

00:25:34.900 town and and after

00:25:37.200 about two years of

00:25:39.000 living in New York

00:25:40.220 there was garbage at

00:25:41.900 the front of my

00:25:42.600 building on 6th Avenue

00:25:44.300 and it was just this

00:25:46.380 newspaper is just

00:25:47.060 blowing everywhere and

00:25:48.520 my first thought was

00:25:49.800 how much money do I

00:25:51.740 have to pay this

00:25:52.640 stupid city for them

00:25:54.240 to keep it clean and

00:25:56.000 I stopped in my own

00:25:57.460 tracks and I thought

00:25:58.300 oh my gosh I've

00:25:59.660 turned into one of

00:26:00.900 them

00:26:01.300 in a certain sense

00:26:03.560 well that's really

00:26:04.120 honest of you Glenn to

00:26:05.180 talk about looking in

00:26:05.880 the mirror that way

00:26:06.680 it's something that

00:26:07.320 more of us ought to do

00:26:08.300 is actually before we

00:26:09.140 point the figure

00:26:09.680 outward let's take a

00:26:10.840 mirror and look within

00:26:11.600 it's funny I'm talking

00:26:12.220 to you from a car in

00:26:13.060 New York City right

00:26:13.700 now where I'm

00:26:14.520 literally seeing

00:26:15.260 bottles lining the

00:26:16.540 street on the left

00:26:17.600 hand side of my car

00:26:18.460 without somebody

00:26:19.000 stepping down to pick

00:26:19.780 it up yeah and I

00:26:20.620 think that that idea

00:26:21.520 of civic duty is

00:26:22.720 something that you

00:26:23.680 know I could call out

00:26:24.900 the liberal side of

00:26:25.540 this I have been for

00:26:26.220 years I do a little bit

00:26:27.340 of that in the book as

00:26:28.120 well but I think it's

00:26:29.380 a place for the

00:26:29.840 conservative movement

00:26:30.480 to look internally and

00:26:31.480 say all right look

00:26:32.140 we can criticize the

00:26:33.760 poison that fills the

00:26:34.880 vacuum all we want

00:26:36.180 at the end of the day

00:26:37.340 we're not rising to the

00:26:38.340 occasion if we don't

00:26:39.580 fill that vacuum with

00:26:40.620 something more meaningful

00:26:41.700 something more rich

00:26:42.840 that dilutes the poison

00:26:44.500 but see so so help me

00:26:45.900 out because of the

00:26:46.580 vague I think and I

00:26:47.860 know religion plays a

00:26:48.820 big part you know in

00:26:50.040 in the book and in your

00:26:50.880 life the the the right

00:26:54.140 would say we do our

00:26:55.660 civic duty we're much

00:26:57.520 more charitable we work

00:26:59.080 through our churches I

00:27:00.320 know people who go on

00:27:01.380 missions all the time

00:27:02.460 I mean we do do our

00:27:05.080 civic duty that's what

00:27:06.440 they would say the

00:27:08.260 left I think we need

00:27:08.980 more of that I think

00:27:09.940 we need more of that

00:27:10.660 and so I think that

00:27:11.400 there's I think there's

00:27:12.020 true I think there's

00:27:12.640 definite that's why I'm

00:27:13.800 that's why I'm more

00:27:14.540 interested in speaking to

00:27:15.540 the conservative

00:27:16.040 movement than I am to

00:27:17.180 the left because I

00:27:17.940 think that there's a

00:27:19.000 greater chance of

00:27:20.380 filling that national

00:27:21.280 vacuum if we're gonna

00:27:21.880 have to pick which

00:27:22.500 which political party

00:27:23.660 or which political

00:27:24.260 movement's gonna do

00:27:24.900 it I'm more optimistic

00:27:25.620 about the conservative

00:27:26.120 movement but that's

00:27:26.640 why I'm you know

00:27:27.580 preaching preaching to

00:27:28.640 that choir rather than

00:27:29.560 the other one because

00:27:30.060 I think it's our best

00:27:30.620 chance of success I

00:27:31.800 think we need to

00:27:32.200 revive that though and

00:27:33.000 I think there's one of

00:27:33.700 two directions for the

00:27:34.540 future of the

00:27:34.880 conservative movement

00:27:35.460 either one that

00:27:36.720 wallows in a new

00:27:38.220 version of victimhood

00:27:39.220 in response to left

00:27:40.540 wing victimhood which

00:27:41.700 I've been by the way a

00:27:42.560 big critic of and a

00:27:43.580 lot of what I'm saying

00:27:44.100 is a self-reflection

00:27:44.980 Glenn I have spent the

00:27:46.160 last two years

00:27:46.680 criticizing a lot of

00:27:47.700 woke victimhood

00:27:48.420 culture left-wing

00:27:49.580 victimhood culture but

00:27:50.320 one of the things I've

00:27:51.020 learned and looking

00:27:51.720 talking about

00:27:52.180 introspection for

00:27:52.800 myself is how much

00:27:54.560 we're moving the needle

00:27:55.560 a little bit by putting

00:27:56.460 the spotlight on the

00:27:57.160 problem but if we

00:27:58.000 want to move the needle

00:27:58.680 in a big way I mean

00:27:59.780 we've got a generation

00:28:00.580 left to save the

00:28:01.900 identity of this

00:28:02.500 country and if we're

00:28:03.520 going to do it it's

00:28:03.940 not going to come just

00:28:04.920 by pointing our finger

00:28:05.940 at all of the

00:28:06.840 hypocrisies of the

00:28:07.620 other side because that

00:28:08.120 would take all of our

00:28:08.680 time no we would have

00:28:09.900 no time left and time

00:28:11.140 would have run out but

00:28:11.860 before we're actually

00:28:12.480 able to save our

00:28:13.080 national identity we

00:28:14.220 need to fill the void

00:28:15.020 of national identity with

00:28:15.940 something else and what

00:28:17.100 I offer in this book is

00:28:18.100 is two visions for that

00:28:19.480 one is the revival of the

00:28:20.680 shared pursuit of

00:28:21.340 excellence that's part of

00:28:22.620 what I'm working on by

00:28:23.300 the way in the private

00:28:23.900 sector in the board in

00:28:25.240 the letter that I sent to

00:28:26.020 the board of directors of

00:28:26.780 Chevron last week

00:28:28.080 through what I'm doing

00:28:28.660 at Strive I'm trying to

00:28:29.740 do that through the

00:28:30.180 private sector that's

00:28:31.420 still only half the

00:28:32.200 story though and I

00:28:33.020 think that as citizens

00:28:34.000 we also need to revive

00:28:35.680 our sense of civic duty

00:28:37.140 to start talking about

00:28:38.360 that more you know I

00:28:39.440 think I think it's a

00:28:40.100 provocative idea I

00:28:41.000 offered in my last book

00:28:41.840 I talk about in this

00:28:42.680 one too of even

00:28:44.040 thinking about weaving

00:28:45.120 civic service into

00:28:46.660 education that's

00:28:47.940 something that makes

00:28:48.560 conservatives a lot of

00:28:49.980 libertarian leaning

00:28:50.560 conservatives even

00:28:51.400 myself 10 years ago

00:28:52.580 would have recoiled at

00:28:53.920 that idea that feels

00:28:55.240 like it's an infringement

00:28:56.880 on our liberty well

00:28:58.140 what I say is first of

00:28:59.200 all if you start at a

00:29:00.500 young enough age we

00:29:01.720 accept that children

00:29:03.240 under the age of 18 or

00:29:04.420 16 are not yet free

00:29:05.820 agents in the world we

00:29:07.220 have to create those

00:29:07.980 citizens and weaving the

00:29:09.200 idea of service of

00:29:10.840 identity as a citizen in

00:29:12.460 your country is part of

00:29:13.940 what allows you to

00:29:14.760 actually be an

00:29:15.560 unapologetic capitalist

00:29:16.920 and unapologetic free

00:29:18.180 agent once you do enter

00:29:19.120 that world and part of

00:29:20.780 the problem I think is

00:29:21.560 that we have an entire

00:29:22.180 generation my

00:29:23.180 generation that never

00:29:24.520 learned how to do

00:29:25.260 actual service nor how

00:29:26.880 to pursue their

00:29:27.480 self-interest in their

00:29:28.840 own right by commingling

00:29:30.240 the two we never

00:29:31.540 learned how to actually

00:29:32.340 do either one on its

00:29:33.500 own and I think we'll

00:29:34.640 actually create great a

00:29:35.700 greater generation of

00:29:36.440 capitalists a greater

00:29:37.780 generation of free

00:29:38.880 individualist agents in

00:29:40.240 the world if we also

00:29:41.440 revive this idea of

00:29:43.040 living out our civic

00:29:44.040 duties and I think that

00:29:45.000 you're right a lot of

00:29:45.620 conservatives in their

00:29:46.160 private lives do it I

00:29:47.440 think we need to make

00:29:47.980 that a part of a

00:29:49.280 north star I think

00:29:50.400 you're what it means to

00:29:51.460 be a conservative in

00:29:52.040 America I think you're

00:29:52.880 seeing that now with

00:29:53.940 the takeover of the

00:29:55.380 school boards and you

00:29:56.940 know the the local

00:29:58.580 city councils etc etc

00:30:01.380 I mean conservatives

00:30:02.240 you know they were

00:30:03.560 busy keeping their nose

00:30:04.520 you know to their

00:30:05.960 business and down to

00:30:07.300 the grindstone and etc

00:30:08.800 etc and just thought oh

00:30:09.940 this is all being taken

00:30:10.820 care of it it's it was

00:30:12.180 being taken care of just

00:30:13.460 not in a way we we

00:30:14.680 appreciate exactly and

00:30:17.200 one of the things I like

00:30:17.920 to do going to sometimes

00:30:18.720 just let's take a step

00:30:19.680 back from the present

00:30:20.600 let's take a walk

00:30:21.660 through history so one

00:30:22.820 of the things I do in

00:30:23.280 the book is actually I

00:30:24.380 talked to a lot about a

00:30:25.300 post-civil war history in

00:30:26.240 the reconstruction era

00:30:26.940 but one of the areas of

00:30:27.740 history I go to is

00:30:28.300 actually Roman history

00:30:29.120 and one of the things I

00:30:30.940 reminded myself of is

00:30:32.040 you know you hear a lot

00:30:32.860 of analogies today

00:30:34.300 between the fall of the

00:30:35.280 American experiment and

00:30:36.220 the fall of Rome well

00:30:37.620 guess what there was no

00:30:39.040 one rise or one fall of

00:30:40.740 Rome there were many

00:30:41.800 rises and many falls and

00:30:44.040 and you know what I

00:30:45.380 don't think we're done

00:30:45.980 with this American

00:30:46.520 experiment quite yet either

00:30:47.780 there were many rises

00:30:48.600 and many falls of Rome

00:30:49.540 there were many rises and

00:30:50.700 many falls of this

00:30:51.420 country in this great

00:30:52.120 experiment as well and I

00:30:53.940 tell the story of it was

00:30:55.520 an interesting one I

00:30:56.040 hadn't studied it since

00:30:56.800 high school Emperor

00:30:58.160 Septimius Severus he was

00:30:59.820 known as the black

00:31:00.660 emperor okay that's how I

00:31:02.100 studied him in high

00:31:02.900 school at least one of the

00:31:04.380 things I learned will do

00:31:05.160 the research for this

00:31:05.860 book is actually he only

00:31:07.320 got that name the black

00:31:08.740 emperor in the last few

00:31:10.320 decades as he was

00:31:11.420 redescribed in modern

00:31:13.100 American history there was

00:31:14.620 a TV series that that

00:31:16.000 highlighted the story of

00:31:17.240 the first first black man to

00:31:19.640 walk on England soil came

00:31:21.280 not as a slave but as a

00:31:22.900 conqueror and then they

00:31:24.100 made a whole narrative

00:31:24.920 around it well the funny

00:31:26.140 thing is if you go back to

00:31:27.100 the Roman era people could 0.86

00:31:28.520 see that he had dark skin

00:31:29.760 but it was no different than

00:31:31.140 someone having dark eyes or

00:31:32.280 dark hair the thing they

00:31:33.640 actually cared about was

00:31:34.520 were you a Roman citizen or

00:31:36.300 were you not were you a

00:31:37.800 member of this nation or

00:31:39.480 were you not that's how they

00:31:40.800 actually saw him and in a

00:31:42.440 certain sense we have

00:31:43.140 created our vision even of

00:31:44.520 history he's the black

00:31:45.760 emperor we need not the

00:31:47.380 black emperor he actually was

00:31:48.840 that was never how the

00:31:49.600 Romans saw him and it

00:31:51.520 just shows you how

00:31:52.160 anachronistically even we

00:31:53.600 view history that if we're

00:31:55.180 able to take off the

00:31:56.040 goggles of the present the

00:31:57.300 filters of the present and

00:31:58.800 actually even just take

00:31:59.940 ourselves out of the

00:32:00.520 present it suddenly becomes

00:32:01.520 politically less

00:32:02.260 controversial we're able to

00:32:03.860 talk about these ideas in

00:32:05.120 ways that are a thousand

00:32:06.140 years removed but then you

00:32:07.680 come back to the present and

00:32:08.840 you see what a strange

00:32:09.680 world it is that we live in

00:32:11.500 yeah and I think that's one

00:32:13.220 of the reasons I felt

00:32:14.140 compelled to write this book

00:32:15.160 it's not for everybody but

00:32:16.780 but if you're a lover of

00:32:18.100 history if you're interested

00:32:20.020 in potentially the parallels

00:32:21.380 between Roman history and

00:32:22.520 modern American history how

00:32:23.940 we got here dating back to

00:32:25.160 the post-Civil War

00:32:25.940 reconstruction era where

00:32:27.280 victimhood culture began and

00:32:29.200 I think how we were able to

00:32:30.620 translate that into the

00:32:31.600 victimhood culture that we

00:32:32.420 see today you know for those

00:32:34.020 who actually enjoy that walk

00:32:35.240 through history that's who

00:32:36.120 this book is was intended

00:32:37.220 for in contrast to Woke Inc

00:32:38.940 my last book which is which

00:32:40.000 is more about current events

00:32:41.520 and the current era this is a

00:32:43.480 walk through history that

00:32:44.320 gives us hopefully a

00:32:45.660 different view of the

00:32:46.340 present yeah well you've

00:32:47.340 really targeted the wrong

00:32:48.340 audience for that

00:32:49.600 I don't know about that

00:32:51.320 I don't know about that

00:32:52.040 this this audience that's

00:32:54.120 you are speaking their

00:32:55.500 language it is great it's

00:32:57.700 called a nation of victims

00:32:59.800 and it's written by Vivek

00:33:02.520 Ramishwamy and we

00:33:04.360 appreciate everything that

00:33:05.700 you do Vivek thank you so

00:33:06.800 much god bless thanks for

00:33:08.480 having me you bet

00:33:09.040 nation of victims must read

00:33:12.420 you're listening to the best

00:33:16.820 of the Glenn Beck program

00:33:18.080 Tim Baxter welcome sir

00:33:27.760 Glenn thank you so much for

00:33:29.520 having me you bet I I reached

00:33:31.720 out to Thomas Massey a couple

00:33:33.660 of weeks ago when I before I

00:33:34.960 went on vacation I said

00:33:35.780 Thomas who is out there that

00:33:38.140 is that you think is a

00:33:39.640 warrior for the Constitution

00:33:41.860 yours was the first one he

00:33:43.920 he mentioned so we wanted to

00:33:45.760 get you on welcome tell us

00:33:49.660 about yourself well well thanks

00:33:51.360 again for having me I'm a

00:33:52.960 small business owner I'm a

00:33:54.940 volunteer state representative

00:33:56.720 I founded a nonprofit in my

00:33:59.200 community to help people get

00:34:00.560 off of drugs and I'm a

00:34:02.180 conservative fighter I've been

00:34:03.500 fighting for the Constitution

00:34:05.000 in the legislature I led the

00:34:07.080 fight for medical freedom

00:34:09.120 against vaccine passports I've 0.59

00:34:11.020 been leading the fight against

00:34:12.660 illegal immigration and I'm

00:34:14.800 running for Congress because up

00:34:16.840 is down now and we need

00:34:18.320 warriors like Thomas Massey to

00:34:20.760 push back against the swamp on 0.92

00:34:23.080 both sides people like McCarthy

00:34:25.640 you know Paul Ryan 2.0 on top of

00:34:29.000 Pelosi they're all complicit in

00:34:31.740 the destruction of our country and

00:34:34.160 we need the right people that are

00:34:35.440 unafraid to take bold action and

00:34:37.660 that's why I stepped up to fight

00:34:39.300 back so the guy that's running

00:34:41.640 against you for the Republican

00:34:43.520 primary today is a guy who's

00:34:45.980 already lost once I think by five

00:34:49.920 points to a Democrat this is this

00:34:53.300 is really important to flip this

00:34:54.920 seat and nobody's done it you'd be

00:34:57.840 the only Republican in all of New

00:35:01.660 England in Congress let me just let

00:35:04.120 me just tell you a couple of things

00:35:05.260 about him he is called for the

00:35:08.160 abolishment of the IRS okay nice

00:35:10.640 Biden's impeachment yes ending CRT

00:35:13.680 securing the border federal abortion

00:35:16.700 ban and and annihilating the swamp

00:35:20.120 now Tim can we just start with that

00:35:25.360 sexy sexy idea abolishing the IRS

00:35:28.600 amen that's what we need to do and that's

00:35:33.060 something you're talking about how we

00:35:35.180 win we're doing a couple of things very

00:35:37.720 differently number one Chris Pappas

00:35:40.240 incumbent he's from the biggest city in

00:35:43.900 the district and for the state and so

00:35:46.060 Matt Mowers last time he avoided it

00:35:48.940 because the conventional wisdom was he's

00:35:51.840 already got the votes there we've taken

00:35:53.980 the opposite approach we set up our

00:35:56.100 campaign headquarters there and we're

00:35:58.460 hustling for every single vote that's

00:36:00.820 going to help us today in the primary

00:36:02.620 but it's going to help us defeat Pappas

00:36:05.320 in the general as well and the other big

00:36:08.400 thing is my stance against Kevin McCarthy

00:36:10.600 I've been very clear that I'm a hell no

00:36:13.020 vote on Kevin McCarthy because he's corrupt

00:36:15.700 we don't need these swamp rats running our

00:36:18.240 government and that's something

00:36:19.980 independents can identify with because

00:36:23.260 Pappas is beholden to Pelosi and

00:36:26.680 Mowers is in the back pocket of Kevin

00:36:30.120 McCarthy that's why McCarthy's super PAC

00:36:32.440 has spent three million dollars and I've

00:36:35.780 been telling voters you know imagine what

00:36:38.600 someone expects in return from you if they

00:36:42.180 spent three million dollars on you

00:36:45.380 I will I will tell you I don't hear a lot of

00:36:49.200 Republicans talking about McCarthy and I

00:36:50.980 think he's I think he is you know cut from

00:36:54.500 exactly the same cloth as all of those

00:36:56.660 swamp rats are

00:36:57.500 that's right and you know a lot of the

00:37:03.060 people that are running for Congress or in

00:37:05.400 Congress know it but they're just too

00:37:07.620 afraid to do anything about it and at the

00:37:10.360 end of the day the people of New Hampshire

00:37:11.940 have to decide are you going to let them

00:37:14.780 buy your vote are you going to let them

00:37:17.160 buy your vote but you have another choice

00:37:19.440 you can vote for me I've got a rock solid

00:37:21.680 voting record that's why I've been

00:37:23.380 endorsed by Congressman Thomas Massey and

00:37:26.340 Senator Rand Paul I'm proud to be the only

00:37:29.060 person in New Hampshire for any office

00:37:31.380 that's endorsed endorsed by them and so

00:37:34.760 make sure to go out and vote today if

00:37:36.540 you're in the first district here in New

00:37:37.960 Hampshire vote for Baxter vote for

00:37:40.080 freedom

00:37:40.440 baxter for congress.com Tim Baxter is his

00:37:44.400 name in New Hampshire let me just ask you

00:37:47.740 the the whole Fauci thing you were in your

00:37:52.180 statehouse and you were very vocal and

00:37:55.280 fought really hard to stop vaccine

00:37:57.000 passports and everything else what do you

00:37:59.640 what are you planning on doing when it

00:38:02.280 comes to Fauci and the CDC and everything

00:38:04.560 else if the Republicans can gain control of

00:38:08.280 Congress great question so very early on I

00:38:13.500 called for putting Fauci in prison which

00:38:16.180 is where he belongs for lying under oath

00:38:18.520 to the American public and there's a lot

00:38:20.700 of stuff on top of perjury that is

00:38:23.140 extremely concerning about Fauci so he

00:38:26.160 needs to be investigated by the House

00:38:28.460 Oversight Committee but you see too often

00:38:31.120 rhinos use investigations as cover to

00:38:34.640 prevent taking real action he needs to go

00:38:37.140 to prison and then the CDC should be 0.52

00:38:39.440 abolished because the way they handled

00:38:41.780 COVID was an absolute disgrace and my

00:38:45.280 position on the CDC big shocker when

00:38:47.880 you're running against fake MAGA people

00:38:49.700 and you know a bunch of panderers

00:38:52.460 basically I'm the only one with that

00:38:54.460 position in my race so if medical freedom

00:38:56.680 is important to you please go out and vote

00:38:59.220 for me Tim Baxter today Tim best of luck

00:39:02.680 we'll be watching tonight in in New

00:39:06.360 Hampshire and if you don't happen to win

00:39:08.780 this call never happened we're for the

00:39:10.360 other guy or woman or whoever but best of

00:39:14.940 luck to you I hope you win thank you thank

00:39:18.360 you you bet that's Tim Baxter you can find

00:39:22.460 him at Baxter for Congress dot com you know

00:39:26.160 I there is something that's happening and

00:39:28.540 I've talked to the Republicans if you plan

00:39:30.900 on just running on we're gonna have

00:39:33.580 hearings you know but nobody's no you're

00:39:36.920 this is your last this is your last

00:39:38.740 election this is it if the Republicans

00:39:41.700 don't take this on this time they never

00:39:46.700 will they never will everything from the

00:39:51.340 Hunter Biden to the Fauci to where is our

00:39:55.180 $60 billion in in Ukraine where is that

00:39:58.860 where did it go where where is that

00:40:00.380 money any of that come back here I'm just

00:40:02.040 saying I'm just asking questions any of

00:40:03.920 that come back here you know there there

00:40:07.140 are things here that are absolutely

00:40:09.300 criminal and if they don't take care of

00:40:12.960 them and they let I mean did you see the

00:40:16.560 the new report out about the IRS and who's

00:40:19.560 really going to be affected it I mean this

00:40:22.840 is coming from the GAO they're saying it's

00:40:27.560 going to be the average citizen to lower

00:40:30.620 class citizen that is going to be hit the 0.99

00:40:33.740 hardest it's why it happens every time

00:40:35.520 every time every time and they tell us

00:40:37.960 every time no no this is for the elites

00:40:39.820 this is for the rich this is for the

00:40:41.480 millionaires no it's not this is for this

00:40:44.180 is for the people who don't pay any income

00:40:46.180 tax but they make a billion dollars a year

00:40:48.060 no that's not who's affected and if we

00:40:51.740 don't if we can't do things now if we

00:40:54.060 can't get the Republicans Republicans

00:40:56.640 you're over you are over after this

00:41:01.100 election and I have to tell you you would

00:41:05.240 have a very good shot of somebody like

00:41:07.940 Donald Trump coming in and splitting a

00:41:10.040 party and actually winning as a as a

00:41:13.780 completely different party because it's

00:41:18.420 we've had enough of it and I think

00:41:20.080 Republicans and Democrats have had

00:41:22.600 enough of it enough enough is enough

00:41:25.220 you

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