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00:00:00.000 Great podcast today. We take on the first part of the program is one of the most insane articles

00:00:06.720 I've ever read that shows you how ESG works just on a personal level. How this whole wokeness is 0.99

00:00:14.340 just destroying people and what it means to freedom of speech and freedom of thought and a society

00:00:21.720 that can move forward. Then we talked to Sarah Gonzalez about a brand new documentary on voter

00:00:28.480 fraud that the blaze has released today. It's out, but you need to hear some of the things that are in

00:00:34.440 it. It's really nuts. And some good news. We have Wilford Riley on. He has just written a book

00:00:41.740 about the lies his liberal teacher told me. He's an associate professor at Kentucky State University,

00:00:53.240 and I don't think he has tenure, so this interview and his book's probably not going to help

00:00:58.420 about in the university world. But it is really worth listening to and learning new kinds of truths

00:01:08.600 that have been buried now by the left for so long. All that and so much more on today's podcast.

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00:02:57.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:01.340 Now, I want to share something with you. And I want to show you

00:03:06.220 one of the most dangerous articles and irresponsible

00:03:11.500 so-called journalists that I know. And I mean, I know him. He worked at the Blaze for quite some time.

00:03:20.480 And then he went to CNN. And his name is Oliver Darcy. And I don't know what happened to Oliver.

00:03:27.840 But he has gone very, very dark and is a danger to our democracy. Now, with that being said,

00:03:38.120 our republic, with that being said, I would I cheer on that Oliver Darcy can say what he wants to say.

00:03:48.480 I think it is irresponsible. I think he is. Well, let me just read the article and you'll see.

00:03:56.240 Okay. CNN. Ticketmaster under fire for promoting Tucker Carlson's conspiracy-laden tour.

00:04:06.320 Now, Ticketmaster under fire from whom?

00:04:10.200 Ticketmaster is linking arms with right-wing extremists, boosting their ability to reach

00:04:15.840 mainstream audiences and profiting off their dangerous and hateful rhetoric ahead of the

00:04:21.480 November election. Ticketing sales giant is the distributor of the forthcoming live speaking tour

00:04:27.840 from Tucker Carlson, who announced plans this week to crisscross the country with a 15-city arena tour,

00:04:34.900 inviting fellow conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones and Marjorie Taylor Greene to join him along the way.

00:04:43.260 Yeah, in two cities, those are the guests. I'm a guest in another city.

00:04:47.360 Megyn Kelly is a guest in another city. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry you think they're

00:04:55.440 all so dangerous and their voices should be silenced. So what is he doing so far?

00:05:01.920 Listen, on Ticketmaster website, Carlson is referred to as the leading voice in America politics and an

00:05:08.600 alternative to corporate media dedicated to telling the truth about things that matter clearly and

00:05:14.580 without fear. So he's doing a couple of things here. First of all, he is attacking Ticketmaster.

00:05:20.660 The approach is not to just say, you shouldn't go and here's why. The approach is, go after Ticketmaster.

00:05:29.060 Force Ticketmaster through pressure campaigns to drop Carlson. He is then also making his reality

00:05:38.420 and his opinion, your opinion, America's opinion, the only correct opinion, that Carlson is not one of

00:05:47.800 the leading voices in American politics. He absolutely is. And an alternative to corporate media

00:05:54.380 dedicated to telling the truth about things that matter clearly and without fear. That's what he sets

00:05:59.920 out to do. And he is an alternative to corporate media. And speak without fear. Yeah, you know what you

00:06:07.660 have to fear? People like Oliver Darcy smearing you and making you into a monster. He does it anyway

00:06:16.100 because he doesn't care. While it's hard to imagine that Ticketmaster conjured this glowing description of

00:06:23.660 Carlson itself, it's remarkable that the company would approve of it and promote it on its site. This is

00:06:31.080 the ESG mentality. This is the way business will be done in the future in this new corporate public

00:06:42.560 private partnership with our governments. This is the way things will be done. You will be shamed

00:06:49.440 into doing something. That's because there's not a morsel of truth to how Ticketmaster is presenting

00:06:56.420 Carlson to its customer. Wow, not a morsel of truth. Carlson, a former mainstream conservative

00:07:03.240 who over the course of Donald Trump's pregnancy, presidency, traveled to the fringes of American

00:07:09.200 politics, has for years promoted dangerous disinformation and damaging conspiracy theories.

00:07:15.280 Carlson lied about the COVID-19 vaccines. Did he? Did he? He discouraged his fans from

00:07:24.360 receiving the life-saving shots. Okay, well, that's kind of looking like a smart move at

00:07:31.180 this point. He's so doubt about the legitimacy of the 2020 election. Well, wait a minute. What

00:07:37.620 is CNN doing every time they have Hillary Clinton on or Al Gore on or anybody else? Don't you often

00:07:45.660 have, what's her name, the governor of Georgia? Isn't she often on CNN sowing conspiracy theories that 1.00

00:07:56.160 she lost the election in Georgia? And then he reprehensibly peddled the false notion that January

00:08:03.620 6th insurrection was a so-called false flag operation staged by the deep state. Okay, he peddled that

00:08:13.060 theory. What does that mean exactly? Peddled that theory. By the way, all the things that he's

00:08:19.800 pointing out here seem to be more and more true. I don't know. There's still theories haven't been

00:08:27.540 proven. But in America, in a free society, you must be allowed to conjure up theories like,

00:08:36.700 hey, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth. Controversial at the time, not controversial now.

00:08:48.660 If you are not allowed to question the official narrative of what's happening in your society,

00:08:57.320 you do not have a free society. And as I pointed out, more and more of these things seem to be true.

00:09:06.300 And you have to go back and say, all right, who's telling me this? Do they have any credibility at all?

00:09:13.660 I always tell you, I don't ask for your trust. I don't ask for it ever. I want you to listen to me

00:09:21.980 as a different opinion that brings different facts to the table. But I don't want you to just take my

00:09:31.020 word for it. I encourage you. Last night I did another show and I put all of the information,

00:09:36.180 all of the facts, all of the original documents there on glennbeck.com so you could do your own

00:09:41.660 homework and you could decide. It is, in a free society, essential that you question, in this case

00:09:51.160 now, more and more, the government slash media narrative. The Hunter Biden laptop, does that

00:10:01.740 come to mind? That's a conspiracy theory. The New York Times still cannot admit that that's really

00:10:08.480 his. The Russian Trump bank link that he was pinging a bank. That was all false. CNN reported

00:10:19.400 on that. The Steele dossier. The masks. You gotta have the masks. The COVID-19, it will stop it in

00:10:29.160 its track. You will kill people if you don't have the vaccine. By the way, let alone everything that

00:10:37.000 the governor of New York was doing with his brother on CNN. But those aren't dangerous conspiracy

00:10:44.520 theories. No, those are truths that we still kind of think are true, but we're not going to look into

00:10:50.840 them. Their own people are afraid to look into things because they can't. What they'll find is

00:10:58.380 they're being duped at best. They are partners in duping America, most likely. In addition, he says,

00:11:07.880 to those corrosive lies, Carlson has been one of the top promoters of the Great Replacement Theory,

00:11:16.580 an idea favored by white supremacists that falsely accuses the Democratic Party and wealthy Jewish

00:11:23.560 figures such as George Soros. So now he's making his victim here. He is making Carlson into a white 0.65

00:11:35.440 supremacist and anti-Jewish because he talks about George Soros. Let me tell you, the only person in 0.75

00:11:43.980 this narrative that is anti-Jewish is George Soros. The theory is that they're importing third world

00:11:54.600 migrants into the U.S. to shift the country's demographics to win elections. That's a corrosive 1.00

00:12:02.460 lie. No, that's a theory. You can look at it that way. I personally don't think that that's what

00:12:11.800 that is. I personally think they're doing it to collapse the entire West. For his repugnant promotion

00:12:20.580 of such lies, the New York Times noted that while Carlson was at Fox News, he constructed what may be 0.91

00:12:25.960 the most racist show in the history of cable news. Well, I'm glad I don't have that now. Thank you,

00:12:32.680 Tucker. Thank you, New York Times, for releasing me from the position of the most racist, hateful show

00:12:39.460 ever on cable news. Ultimately, Carlson grew to be too much of a problem for even Fox News. Where have I

00:12:48.200 read this before? Asked for comment this week. Representatives for the Live Nation subsidiary.

00:12:58.220 Okay, notice this. First, it's Ticketmaster. But if you can't get Ticketmaster, go to its corporate

00:13:06.720 master, Live Nation. So, not getting any answer from Ticketmaster. I'm going to go to their parent

00:13:14.420 company and they chose not to respond. So, now it's Ticketmaster and Live Nation. In fairness to the

00:13:22.620 company's public relations division, it is difficult to see how they could defend such conduct. How could

00:13:28.460 any decent person not only participate in enabling Carlson's poisoning of the public discourse, but

00:13:36.360 also justify profiting off of his hateful rhetoric in the process? We posed that question. Now, Ticketmaster,

00:13:45.000 Live Nation, we posed those questions to the venues hosting Carlson, the Honda Center, T-Mobile Center,

00:13:54.300 Delta Center, Dickey's Arena, Intrust Bank Arena, and others. The spokespeople didn't respond.

00:14:03.040 These are uneasy questions that major businesses will be confronted with in the years ahead.

00:14:12.020 As I said at the beginning, this is the ESG plan. As the Republican Party veers further and further

00:14:19.400 toward the fringe, let me ask you something. Who is fringe? The one that says, I believe in the absolute

00:14:27.860 right for freedom of speech. I believe in the right that you can question the government, you can

00:14:36.600 question authority, and you have a right to your opinion. That's called the First Amendment here in

00:14:44.520 America. So, am I fringe or Oliver Darcy and people like him on the left that are saying, no, you don't have a

00:14:55.160 right to freedom of speech. We do. Okay. Companies with basic ethics should, of course, reject doing

00:15:05.540 business with dishonest figures who profit by dumping toxic waste into the country's information

00:15:11.640 environment. Well, you know, Oliver, be careful what you wish for, because that sounds like you.

00:15:18.340 By doing so, puts them at risk of being targeted by those very same people like Trump, who have

00:15:24.480 tremendous sway over the vast majority of Republicans and a lightning rod for painful boycotts.

00:15:31.380 Hmm. Okay. Wait a minute. Painful boycotts. Now, again, he goes back to threatening businesses.

00:15:38.620 But while the politics of 24 make for thorny business environment for companies to navigate,

00:15:43.960 from an ethics perspective, and he knows ethics, the questions that lie before them come with clear

00:15:50.980 and obvious answers. Those uncomfortable decisions risk catapulting them squarely in to the center of

00:15:58.600 the information wars where grifters like Carlson thrive. You know, I don't agree with everything

00:16:06.220 Tucker Carlson says. I certainly don't agree with anything that Oliver Darcy now has become and says.

00:16:13.960 But I don't want him shut down. I don't want a boycott of CNN. I'd like people to recognize reality.

00:16:23.480 You know, American Airlines and all you big businesses, why are you advertising on CNN?

00:16:29.880 Literally no one is watching. So what is it that you're trying to signal and to whom?

00:16:36.820 Because it's clearly not the American people. Because the American people aren't seeing their ads.

00:16:42.040 I don't want them boycotted or anything else. I don't want Oliver Darcy to be silenced.

00:16:53.640 I just think that someone with a different opinion should have the right to say, 0.99

00:16:59.780 this guy's a jackass. This guy is trying to use absolutely every tool in the Saul Alinsky book. 0.97

00:17:08.420 This article is 100% Saul Alinsky. He's using every Saul Alinsky tool in the book.

00:17:18.200 To do what? To create fear in the corporate world. To create fear with you. To create fear

00:17:29.420 of Tucker Carlson and anyone like him. And anyone who has a different opinion, you should fear

00:17:36.500 and push away from you. The opposite is what you should do for a free nation. You should listen

00:17:46.100 to other people's points of view and then decide for yourself. Who has credibility here? Who doesn't?

00:17:56.020 Either you're going to stand for something or you're going to just keep sitting down and you'll fall

00:18:01.340 for anything. What is worth standing for? When and where can you stand? Could you do business with

00:18:11.420 companies that share your values? That's the easiest way. You and I are part of a movement dedicated to

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00:19:15.820 Now back to the podcast.

00:19:20.380 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:19:27.180 Blaze TV host of Sarah Gonzalez unfiltered. It was really hard. We started with the name

00:19:33.820 and then we're like, we got to find a Sarah Gonzalez to be able to do this show. 0.99

00:19:37.820 We might've thought about doing it a different way, but we found her and she's perfect. She is

00:19:42.460 the perfect Sarah Gonzalez to host unfiltered. Sarah, welcome to the program. How are you?

00:19:48.700 Thank you. Thanks for having me. I'm good. I consider that job security, Glenn.

00:19:53.100 You're not going to find another Sarah Gonzalez and we've already named the show.

00:19:56.620 Yeah, we looked, we looked. So anyway, you're doing another Blaze original. We've all been doing this.

00:20:02.780 This is episode five. The documentary is called Voter Fraud Exposed, How Elections Can Be Stolen.

00:20:08.780 I have to tell you, I saw a rough cut of it. I don't even know. A couple of weeks ago.

00:20:15.020 Oh my gosh, Sarah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Just Michigan alone is. I mean, you sat down with

00:20:22.940 the woman who was the secretary of state, right? Yes. Yeah. And she, I believe she was replaced 0.53

00:20:29.340 by a secretary of state that was part of the George Soros thing. Correct. Correct. Yes. Jocelyn

00:20:34.140 Benson. Yes. Uh-huh. And give people a clue on just, just Michigan. Sure. So yes. In 2018,

00:20:43.740 Jocelyn Benson replaced Ruth Johnson. Ruth Johnson was a, you know, Republican who more importantly was 1.00

00:20:49.820 interested in doing the right thing when it came to, you know, protecting the voter rolls and keeping

00:20:53.980 them secure and fresh and, you know, dated. And so, or I should say, you know, not outdated. And so

00:21:00.220 what Jocelyn Benson did, she is, as you pointed out, Soros funded. She is former SPLC, just to give

00:21:05.100 you an idea of who she is and what she's about. Yeah. And so she is one of these. Well, Southern,

00:21:10.060 in case you don't know that, that Southern Poverty Law Center, which is the worst of the worst.

00:21:15.660 Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. So, um, she is part of the secretary of state project that George Soros

00:21:21.660 is funding. So she comes in to the state of Michigan and, uh, she tries to allow, uh, Michigan to count

00:21:28.780 ballots that were received after election day. She was luckily sued and lost that battle. But

00:21:34.700 since then we've had ballot referendums that you can have same day registration. This is proposition three

00:21:39.500 in Michigan. You can have same day registration and you can register without showing a photo ID

00:21:44.620 in the state of Michigan and your vote counts. Unbelievable. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean,

00:21:48.140 you need a photo ID for anything. Everything. Everything. Except for the most important,

00:21:55.820 uh, thing a citizen can do. Right. Right. And well, and, and we point out in the documentary,

00:22:01.740 it's like if I were not just in the state of Michigan, but I would imagine most other states and

00:22:07.740 cities, if you go to your local library, you can't get a library card without showing your ID.

00:22:13.660 It is insane that you shouldn't have to show your ID, uh, in order to participate in the voting

00:22:19.660 process. And by the way, as this is something else we point out, it's like almost 80% of Americans,

00:22:24.780 both left and right, agree that you should have to show a photo ID in order to vote. This is not a

00:22:30.620 partisan thing. I go down the street, uh, from our ranch, there's a big lake across the street and

00:22:38.140 I have to go about, I don't know, five miles to, uh, uh, um, this little, uh, crate, little kind of

00:22:47.020 general store. I had to get a, uh, I had to get a fishing license. I needed ID. Everybody in there

00:22:55.820 knows who I am. I needed ID to be able to get a fishing license. Did you guys see Texas

00:23:03.660 representative Wesley Hunt talk about this? No. Uh, yesterday it's brilliant. He shows all of his

00:23:12.060 government issued. He's black. He shows all of his government issued IDs, including a driver's 0.97

00:23:18.140 license and, uh, you know, a passport. And he's got like six different forms of ID showing how

00:23:25.980 insulting it is that the left is saying that blacks don't have ID. It's ridiculous. Well, 1.00

00:23:32.060 this will give you kind of a clue into how sinister, uh, this, you know, this initiative is,

00:23:36.860 is that Republicans in the state of Michigan, actually, uh, they had a bill that they passed

00:23:42.120 that was going to expand and allow free photo ID for people. So there would be no excuse to say,

00:23:48.140 well, it's too expensive. And you know, the, the, the idea is that minorities can't afford it,

00:23:52.620 I guess, which is inherently racist. And we've been told they don't know where the DMV is. Right.

00:23:56.940 Right. Which again, seems a little racist to assume. Um, but so governor Gretchen Whitmer actually 1.00

00:24:03.420 vetoed that bill, but just to give you an idea of where, I mean, what possible reason as our friend,

00:24:10.700 Steve Dace likes to say, what is the innocent benign explanation for vetoing such legislation?

00:24:16.380 Mm hmm. There isn't one. So, uh, they, uh, they can't even now because of this new legislation,

00:24:27.500 they can't even ask for ID. Correct. So you go in right to the voting, uh, booth, uh, you're going,

00:24:35.660 you want to go into the voting booth, you go in and you say, my name's Glenn Beck. And, uh, you know,

00:24:41.500 they'll probably, maybe, I don't even know, do they ask for an address and they look you up if

00:24:46.060 you're on the rolls or in the case of Michigan, you can now just register. You can go in and say,

00:24:52.540 I'm not registered. I want to register right now, but none of it is hooked up to the internet. So

00:24:58.860 they can't verify anything. Right. And so you can go in and register and then just get a ballot and

00:25:06.460 vote. What could go wrong? What could possibly go wrong? You know, and it's always from, uh, 0.68

00:25:12.220 the left who claims that they care so much about democracy, which is just so laughable at this point,

00:25:17.500 not that we have a democracy, but if you did care about democracy and you did care, you know,

00:25:22.220 about the state of your country, you would want election integrity and security. That would be at

00:25:26.860 the top of your list. And instead they are trying to, you know, uh, in the state of Michigan,

00:25:32.220 I'll go back to Michigan again, in the state of Michigan, they now have a constitutional right

00:25:36.140 to vote by mail. I mean, you are talking about such an outdated system. I think France banned it

00:25:41.820 in like 1975. France uses paper. All of these other first world countries, civilized countries

00:25:48.060 have decided that mail-in voting is terrible, a horrible way of doing things. Of course it is.

00:25:53.500 Jimmy Carter coauthored a bipartisan report that said we cannot have mail-in voting because it makes it

00:26:01.100 more likely to, you know, to have fraud and all sorts. I mean, this was something that we all

00:26:05.900 agreed upon decades ago. And now all of a sudden there are states that are run by these left wing

00:26:11.740 secretary of state, uh, you know, secretaries of state, and they are going in and changing the

00:26:16.380 system to allow these types of things. Let me ask you, let me ask the, the average,

00:26:21.980 the average person you're driving in your car and you hear about Glenn's bank say that you knew a

00:26:31.420 Glenn that had any kind of credibility at all. And we, yeah, we invite you in to put your money,

00:26:38.380 uh, in our bank and we're going to make it easy for you to, uh, write checks. We're going to make it

00:26:44.220 easy for you to come in, withdraw your money. Um, we're never going to ask you for ID. Would you put

00:26:51.900 your money in that bank? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Right. So why would we do this

00:26:59.500 with a leg on anything on anything? It's crazy. Um, so give me some white pill news. Can you?

00:27:08.780 Yeah, I think so. I mean, um, everyone will see when they go and watch this new blaze originals that

00:27:14.460 they can go watch right now. Um, they will see some hope in the sense that there are organizations

00:27:20.540 that are working around the clock to prevent these types of things from happening. They are

00:27:25.020 largely successful in the courts. One of them is of course, PILF, the public interest legal foundation.

00:27:29.660 I spoke with them. They are suing the crap out of these states and out of these secretaries of states

00:27:35.660 who are, are engaging in this business. They are suing about the, you know, all of the dead people 0.96

00:27:40.940 on the voter rolls in the state of Michigan. The RNC is now suing the state of Michigan, um, for the,

00:27:47.100 you know, it's just that there's 105% of Michigan population that's currently registered to vote.

00:27:53.340 And you know, I'm not great at math, but I'm good enough to know that there's something a little bit

00:27:58.620 wrong with that. So right. It's, it's, it's hard to have 105% of anything. You know what I mean?

00:28:05.500 Yeah. I'm going to have 105% of that pie over there. Wow. That's a skill. Right. So, I mean,

00:28:13.180 you know, in talking to these experts, uh, they say vote, don't be discouraged and not vote because

00:28:18.860 we can still blow them out. We can still overwhelm the system and we should sunlight is the best

00:28:23.740 disinfectant knowledge is power. I mean, we are exposing these people for what they are doing.

00:28:28.780 And the more exposure that we can give them, the less likely it is that they are able to just commit

00:28:33.580 this in broad daylight. And like I said, we have these, these legal foundations who are suing these

00:28:39.020 states. And in most cases, in a lot of cases, they are largely successful in that. So if secretary of

00:28:44.940 state Benson, isn't going to remove dead people from her voter rolls until the courts force her to, 1.00

00:28:50.540 well, you know what, at the end of the day, she's still going to be forced to remove these people. 1.00

00:28:54.860 So we are making moves. We have organizations that are tackling this, but we have to expose this

00:29:01.260 for what it really is. Uh, I, I will tell you, I think that there is a, a good chance that

00:29:11.260 a landslide does happen. Uh, I mean, I, I just can't imagine going into the booth and you being a

00:29:19.180 Democrat and pulling the lever for more of this and saying, yeah, I want, I know. And, and, and I,

00:29:27.260 I think Joe Biden, uh, is the guy to trust with possible world war three. I think he's got the

00:29:35.740 economy, right? I think, you know, all of the things that he has done, you might pull it for

00:29:41.100 RFK Jr. Or Trump, but I just cannot see people voting for him. And, and honestly, when people ask

00:29:51.340 themselves, am I, am I, was I better off four years ago? Like a lot better off? The answer is yes.

00:30:01.180 Uh, and you know, we've always asked, I wish somebody would just run this place like a business.

00:30:05.500 Well, that's, that's what Donald Trump was doing and look at the results, uh, until COVID happened.

00:30:12.140 So go out and vote. I think if everybody, they're going to try to black pill you. Um, but, uh, if,

00:30:19.500 if you don't listen to that and you go out and vote, I think the numbers will be overwhelming.

00:30:26.060 But what do I know? Well, I would tell you this too, Glenn. Um, there are certain states that have

00:30:31.340 already passed election integrity, uh, you know, and voter security, uh, laws. So states like Georgia,

00:30:37.420 Texas, Tennessee, Florida, I mean, the more states that are passing these voter integrity laws, which

00:30:42.620 I know the left will tell you is racist and they'll tell you they're, they're not allowing you to drink

00:30:46.860 water in line and all of these other lies. The fact of the matter is these are states that are making

00:30:52.300 elections more secure and you know, we can have other states follow suit in that.

00:30:56.220 All right. Blaze original episode number five, voter fraud exposed how elections can be stolen.

00:31:02.780 It's a new doc and it's out now. If you are a blaze TV subscriber, if you're not go to blaze tv.com

00:31:09.020 slash Glenn. And what is the promo code? Is it voter fraud? Voter fraud. Yes. Yeah. Voter fraud.

00:31:15.820 Um, and you can watch it now. It's available, uh, on blaze TV. Sarah, thank you so much. Thank you.

00:31:21.100 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:31:31.260 Wilfred Riley. Welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

00:31:34.940 Good. Uh, good to be back on the show.

00:31:37.660 Yeah. Last time you were on, we were talking about the 1776 project, if I remember right.

00:31:43.820 Yeah. We were talking about, uh, 1776 Unites and some of the issues with the 1619 project,

00:31:50.940 which also, uh, come up in this book a little bit. Yeah. So talk about the, the lies, uh,

00:31:57.500 my liberal teacher, uh, told me. Yeah. So the new book, I mean, you just, uh, you just named it.

00:32:03.420 It's called lies. My liberal teacher told me, and it's a response to not just really one book,

00:32:09.180 but kind of a trend in American education and American media. So there've been like eight or

00:32:14.380 10 of these books over the past couple of decades. I mean, the one you mentioned,

00:32:17.740 it's actually pretty good as James Lohan lies. My teacher told me it came out in 1995.

00:32:23.180 But I mean, you also have, uh, the 1619 projects book, uh, 1619, a black history of America and the

00:32:29.980 lies they're telling you that came out a couple of years ago. Uh, you have bury my heart and wounded

00:32:35.420 knee a native American history of the United States, which is literally just a chronicling

00:32:39.340 of all the battles. The Indians lost at none of the ones they won, which came out in 1968.

00:32:44.300 You kind of wonder why the war went on for 400 years when you read it. Um, but I mean,

00:32:48.780 that old communist Howard Zins, uh, a people's history of the United States and the lies they're 0.89

00:32:54.460 telling you. And you kind of, I mean, we've all read these in high school or college. You kind of

00:32:58.380 get the theme as you go through them, but reading them as an academic scientist, there are social

00:33:03.500 scientists. There are two points that they, they really keep making. And one is kind of Western

00:33:08.700 culture, white descent culture, American culture is the worst society in history. Like we oppressed 1.00

00:33:15.900 women and we kept slaves and we treated battle captives horribly and no one else really did.

00:33:21.340 And point two is if you know this, you are one of the elect, like the books will actually include

00:33:27.340 lines. Like your parents probably don't know too much about feminism or don't know what happened 1.00

00:33:32.140 to the Indian. So you're kind of one of the smart new kids. And when you think about it,

00:33:37.020 that's what woke means. Like everyone was asleep and now you're awake. You're aware of what's really

00:33:42.540 going on in this filthy society. So to me, the basic perspective that these authors were coming

00:33:49.580 from was just BS. Like the idea that the American Academy is too patriotic and leans too far to the

00:33:57.500 right and spends all day complimenting the USA was just crazy. So I decided to actually read the

00:34:03.980 textbooks we've been using for the past, like 20 years, populations of people and all that,

00:34:08.780 and see whether there was any element of truth to that at all. And, and what I found is there's

00:34:13.580 some jingoistic stuff. Our troops get praised quite appropriately, but that most of the big lies in

00:34:19.420 society are told from the other direction. And so in my book, I, I counter the two themes.

00:34:25.740 One, obviously I don't think Western culture is any worse than any other human culture, Arabic, 1.00

00:34:32.940 Chinese, so on. In fact, I think it's way better. And I make that argument, but at very least, 1.00

00:34:37.580 if you put our society in context, you can't claim that the other great societies didn't also have

00:34:43.900 slaves, which is something most Americans no longer know. Uh, you can't claim that women's rights 1.00

00:34:48.860 existed really anywhere in the world outside of certain tribes before the last a hundred years

00:34:53.980 or so. If battle captives in general were blinded or castrated or whatever, and then then you got

00:35:00.300 to practice your boat rowing skills for the rest of your life. So these, these points I just make,

00:35:06.460 and it's, it's important because we've almost forgotten that. But then I think the second point

00:35:11.420 is more important. I make the point that the, the narrative that's presented as kind of edgy and

00:35:18.220 rebellious like Marxism, light mainstream feminism, the left wing of the democratic party

00:35:25.020 is not in fact, some rebellious thing that only cool high school kids know about.

00:35:30.540 It's the absolute mainstream of society. AOC is in Congress. Joe Biden's in the white house.

00:35:37.980 You know, pride parades are sponsored by Halliburton. So this is the educational curriculum.

00:35:44.380 It's not some occasional supplement you get. And what I'm pointing out in the book is that most

00:35:48.300 of the things that we are teaching are empirically wrong. Like the resistance is sort of the, the

00:35:55.260 center right dad who's looking at this and thinking, wow, this is all BS, isn't it? So I try to write a

00:36:00.380 book for that guy. So let me, um, let me take you through a couple of the topics in the book.

00:36:06.540 Native Americans were peaceful people who spent all day dancing. Um, I, you know, I love, uh,

00:36:12.700 Native American culture in history and some of them were really good, you know, like us,

00:36:18.780 they were, you know, people, um, and they would war from time to time, but they were really good

00:36:23.100 and tried to be fair and honest. And some of them were horrible monsters, just like, I don't know us.

00:36:28.300 Yeah. Well, that's a point that I make that it, so someone once said, actually, I think

00:36:35.500 interestingly enough, this was the slave trader, Tipu Tip, who would have known, but he said that

00:36:40.220 the great weakness of the liberal or of the white man was the belief that other people were different

00:36:46.300 from and better than you. And the great weakness of what he called the warrior, the barbarian was

00:36:52.300 the belief that other people were different from and worse than you. And today we could probably sub

00:36:56.540 in the liberal and the conservative, but his comment was that all people are pretty much just

00:37:01.340 the same. Yes. All groups of people everywhere in the world have the exact same places. If you went

00:37:07.580 to a stable black African country, Nigeria, Ghana, people would just be people. We went to a business 0.97

00:37:13.020 meeting. They'd be people. You went to China, you know, a little regimented over there, but people

00:37:16.380 would just be people. Certainly that'd be the case in Thailand, so on down the line. Um, and that's

00:37:20.460 what we found with Native Americans. When I did serious research, yeah, there were tribes that were

00:37:24.460 peaceful. Uh, most of those were in the process of being conquered when the white incomers arrived, 1.00

00:37:30.140 by the way. But there were also a lot of warrior tribes that were brutal by any standard because

00:37:37.100 you didn't have the regulations that existed in the old world. You didn't have the laws that

00:37:41.580 had descended from Rome. You didn't have nations around you where a Christian king might check you 0.98

00:37:46.060 if your behavior became too extreme. So you had people like the Aztecs who actually built a cannibal 0.81

00:37:51.180 kingdom. It was about the size of Mexico. And if you lost a war with the Aztecs, they'd eat you. 0.98

00:37:56.460 The surrounding nations would send in sort of hunger game style tributes to the Aztec empire

00:38:02.060 every year. And there'd be an annual ceremony where they'd kill and eat 50,000 people. 0.77

00:38:05.260 And none of this is disputed. It's why it's accepted in anthropology. 0.86

00:38:10.060 Talk to me about the red scare. Um, talk to me about, about the red scare here. The,

00:38:14.940 the, you know, it didn't catch any communists, you know, it was a horrible blemish. And in some ways

00:38:23.260 it was a horrible, uh, blemish, but in other ways, uh, that story that it, that there weren't

00:38:31.020 communist infiltration, uh, you know, that they didn't catch anybody. That's not true.

00:38:37.180 No, it's, it's not true at all. So one of the things I do in this book is contrast

00:38:42.060 kind of the, the first glance public perception that the average upper middle-class American or

00:38:48.140 blue collar aristocrat, and certainly their kids have of historical incidents with reality.

00:38:54.620 And very often the two don't even resemble, uh, one another. So the red scare, I mean,

00:38:59.900 now Joe McCarthy had some problems personally, drank a little too much. He didn't mislabel some people.

00:39:04.380 Right. But I mean, like who, for example, the house on American activities committee

00:39:08.620 correctly identified a large number of people who were communist spies as communist spies.

00:39:14.460 The idea that we were just pointing out random citizens who happened to be black or left leading

00:39:20.700 and accusing them of communism is false. And we now know that. And by the way, uh, kind of getting

00:39:26.380 to the point, we know that for a specific reason, like in the 1990s, we finished the declassification

00:39:32.380 of what are known as the Venona cables, which are the V E N O N A for the listening audience. 0.99

00:39:37.900 Yeah. And a lot of smart people on the right know that, but this isn't widely known in general.

00:39:42.700 These are the decrypted exchanges between Russia and her agents over here.

00:39:46.780 So we now, and we were friendly with Mr.

00:39:48.700 Putin in the late 1990s. So we have this, I mean, we know who they were and you can just

00:39:54.220 go to Wikipedia or Britannica and look up Venona cables and see who the Russian agents in the USA

00:39:59.740 were. And as a political scientist, I mean, you're often expected to work on these. I've looked at

00:40:03.420 them. So long story short, many of the people that were accused of Russian espionage in the

00:40:09.500 fifties and sixties, I mean, you're talking about the Rosenbergs, Alger Hiss, all these people who 0.73

00:40:14.380 became cause celebs for the global left, Dalton Trumbo, all of the, all those three were in fact,

00:40:20.300 Russian spies. And we we've known that for decades. It's just sort of been minimized as part of this

00:40:26.300 narrative where McCarthyism has become a word for unprovokedly, baselessly accusing people of

00:40:33.260 crimes. And I don't think that's valid. I go through this whole red chair, red scare chapter,

00:40:37.820 where I named the spies and I point out, look, we can say that one or two of these congressmen

00:40:43.180 overstepped, but there was another global empire at this time and they were communist and they did

00:40:49.180 have the country full of spies. And here are the spies.

00:40:51.260 But I feel a little, when it comes to the red scare, uh, I don't like, uh, I don't like the fact

00:40:59.420 that, you know, we were reporting on each other and that we were, you know, forced to give lists.

00:41:06.220 Um, you know, that that's, that's, that's really what wokeness is doing right now. Uh, you know,

00:41:12.460 turn people in who have a different opinion. There were, there were people that were communist or had

00:41:17.340 attended communist meetings that weren't necessarily spies going after spies. That's one thing,

00:41:23.660 but having the entire country, uh, you know, turn around and, um, and just hunt for people, I don't

00:41:35.340 think is a good thing. Do you? Well, no, I generally agree. But I mean, to put that in context,

00:41:40.540 we did this under COVID. I mean, you know, there's, there's a hotline. Yeah, I know it's

00:41:44.540 right. Yeah. No, I totally disapprove, but just there's a hotline in the airports right now. If

00:41:49.340 you see something, say something, I mean, I don't think I've ever called it, but I mean,

00:41:52.940 my fiance called it once to report suspected trafficking, you know? So we, we do this for a

00:41:57.340 large number of things. And of course we can criticize. And I think guys would be more likely

00:42:01.260 to criticize that prevalent kind of a long house snooping in society. But the reality is that we do

00:42:07.900 essentially what happened during the Ritz scare for a lot of relatively inconsequential things.

00:42:13.180 Communism was actually an existential threat to the USA at the time.

00:42:17.100 Oh, it was.

00:42:18.540 The USA and the US. 0.81

00:42:19.500 I think it is still.

00:42:21.660 Yeah, I wouldn't dispute you on that one. But the USA and the USSR almost fought a nuclear war.

00:42:26.620 So, I mean, this idea of, well, if there's a one in 10 chance of nuclear war,

00:42:31.420 you know, we're going to, we're going to put the boys out there. We're going to have agents

00:42:34.300 following people around if we think there's a chance that you're a Russian asset. I do think

00:42:39.740 there were some violations of liberties. I think some of those were just viable. But the main point

00:42:45.020 is that the story that's being told is that almost all of this was sort of made up. And I open each

00:42:52.620 chapter with quotes from the textbooks and from major journals. And those about Joe McCarthy are

00:42:58.140 almost all along the lines of, he never found a single communist, he made up a list of communists,

00:43:04.620 never identified a single person. I just don't think that's accurate. I think he was among the

00:43:09.100 worst of the people doing this, but we found four or 500 communists, according to Venona.

00:43:14.540 Did you read Blacklisted by History?

00:43:17.500 Yes, I did.

00:43:19.260 What did you think of that?

00:43:21.420 Yeah, I think that that is a lot of the, I think it's largely correct. That's actually

00:43:30.060 referenced in the McCarthy chapter, actually.

00:43:32.380 Yeah, it is. It is really, when I read that the first time, I actually, I set the book down,

00:43:38.380 because I thought, if I read this, I better find out if this author is, you know, a stable guy or a

00:43:45.500 nut job, because I knew it would change my opinion of things that I had always thought were true.

00:43:53.020 And it did change my opinion on the Red Scare and McCarthy. Like you said, he was, you know,

00:43:59.420 he's the worst one out there. And he was not a good messenger. But he's not the guy that everybody

00:44:04.220 tried to make him out to be. Or at least, you know, he wasn't the guy who was on a witch hunt

00:44:10.620 without any evidence. No, I think that's correct. Yeah, I talk about this on page 29 of the book,

00:44:15.820 or actually provide a link to the book. So yeah, the 2007 book, Blacklisted by History,

00:44:20.620 The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and his fight against America's enemies,

00:44:25.020 renault conservative historian M. Stanton Evans argues that much of the strong and immediate backlash

00:44:29.980 to McCarthy's allegations occurred because the government wasn't about to admit how real

00:44:34.620 McCarthy's worries were about infiltration. Last line, but U.S. officials from both parties,

00:44:39.580 this is a quote, weren't eager to have the reality of communist penetration on their watch

00:44:43.900 and their failure to do much about it broken down in front of the general public. So that was one of

00:44:48.860 the reasons. And I think, again, we see this with a lot of stuff, including the recent backlash to

00:44:53.580 COVID, including the debates about the border. Like you're in a dangerous position if you point out

00:44:59.020 a systemic failure by the government, especially a bipartisan systemic failure. Like even in the USA,

00:45:05.260 you might disappear. And then much of Europe, all the rest of the world, you would,

00:45:09.500 because you're pointing out that the organs of state screwed up.

00:45:14.780 Wilfred Riley is the name of the man I've been speaking to. He is the author of Lies My Liberal

00:45:20.220 Teacher Told Me. It's available everywhere. Wilfred, as always, good to have you on. Thank you so much.

00:45:25.660 Thank you, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. You bet.

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