The Glenn Beck Program - October 02, 2018


Best of the Program with David Harsanyi ｜ 10⧸2⧸18


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

162.74548

Word Count

8,400

Sentence Count

716

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

The New York Times has a holy crap bombshell on Brett KAVANAKEVILLION and it's sure to set off a firestorm of controversy. Glenn and Stu discuss the allegations against Brett and what they mean for the chances of him getting confirmed.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 The Blaze Radio Network.
00:00:04.840 On Demand.
00:00:05.980 Hey, welcome to the podcast. It's Glenn, Stu.
00:00:09.040 We've got a holy crap bomb that was planted by the New York Times.
00:00:13.840 I mean, holy crap.
00:00:15.400 What have they found about Brett Kavanaugh this time?
00:00:18.560 Well, he's practically Jack the Ripper.
00:00:22.680 That's a fair characterization, I think.
00:00:25.060 Yeah, I mean, he's way beyond gang rapist.
00:00:27.400 Oh, God, those are the old days.
00:00:29.780 That's when we thought he was innocent.
00:00:31.460 Yeah.
00:00:31.800 You know, okay, so he gang raped a bunch of women.
00:00:35.000 Right.
00:00:35.500 Big deal.
00:00:36.140 This is much beyond that.
00:00:36.960 This is way beyond that.
00:00:39.280 And so we talk a little bit about Brett Kavanaugh and what is happening,
00:00:46.700 what's going to happen next.
00:00:47.640 And I lay out a few scenarios, four or five of them,
00:00:51.140 that foreshadow what I think the possibilities are
00:00:54.640 because I do think the Jeff Flakes or the Susan Collins,
00:00:58.400 there's a chance they peel away on things like he lied.
00:01:04.080 Right.
00:01:04.360 And, you know, the point is not to abandon Brett Kavanaugh
00:01:07.580 if you think he's a good justice.
00:01:09.100 It's the idea of be prepared for every eventuality.
00:01:12.140 That's your job in government.
00:01:13.380 That's your job as we look at these big issues.
00:01:16.740 And I hope that that's happening right now behind the scenes.
00:01:19.700 I hope it is, too.
00:01:20.640 I have a feeling it's not our advice to President Trump,
00:01:23.580 who is the only president that would have stood by this guy for this long.
00:01:28.280 And I'm thrilled that he did.
00:01:30.320 He's got some spine.
00:01:32.020 If the Republicans cave, I think it's going to spell real trouble for them.
00:01:38.080 But we'll talk about that a little bit more.
00:01:41.500 Also, a year later, the anniversary of the Vegas shooting.
00:01:47.460 A year later, what do we really know?
00:01:51.720 We tell the story of one of the potential victims
00:01:55.920 and how a baby saved their life.
00:02:01.440 That's coming up.
00:02:02.780 All on the podcast.
00:02:03.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:02:17.600 It's Tuesday, October 2nd.
00:02:20.020 Glenn Beck.
00:02:21.380 You know, there's always two sides of a coin.
00:02:23.480 For every benefit of technology, there is another side.
00:02:27.340 There's a dark side.
00:02:28.160 There's a dark side.
00:02:29.200 Take social media and the Internet.
00:02:30.640 Before that existed, journalists had a stranglehold
00:02:33.720 on the mass flow of information and opinion.
00:02:36.640 If you wanted to have a voice, you had to go through your local newspaper,
00:02:39.560 your local news, cable news, national publications like the New York Times.
00:02:45.240 Your voice really, the only place your voice could be heard in the past
00:02:49.220 was on talk radio.
00:02:51.940 But social media has changed all of that.
00:02:54.400 And now you've got a hot take room.
00:02:56.760 You know, maybe you just saw some breaking news
00:02:58.760 and you can instantly publish and blast that information out
00:03:02.340 into the entire world.
00:03:03.540 Good.
00:03:05.260 Except there's a flip side to that coin.
00:03:08.120 Let's say you work at a news outlet.
00:03:10.680 Supposed to be impartial.
00:03:12.900 Well, anything you've ever blasted out on the interwebs
00:03:15.880 is instantly available to check your impartiality
00:03:19.320 or your non-biased bona fides.
00:03:25.120 Let me give you an example.
00:03:26.200 New York Times, Emily Bazlon.
00:03:30.860 July 9th, she tweeted, quote,
00:03:34.060 As a Yale Law School graduate and a lecturer,
00:03:38.420 I strongly disassociate myself from tonight's praise of Brett Kavanaugh.
00:03:43.840 With respect, he's a fifth vote on the hard right turn on voting rights
00:03:49.340 and so much more that will harm the democratic process
00:03:52.820 and prevent a more equal society.
00:03:56.740 Okay.
00:03:57.240 So in July, she came out and she let everybody know,
00:04:00.840 I'm against him.
00:04:02.520 I think he's dangerous.
00:04:04.920 Now, that was just three months ago.
00:04:06.880 She exercised her ability, as we all do,
00:04:10.680 to share with the world what our opinions are.
00:04:14.180 And then, yesterday, she shared with the world her independent viewpoint.
00:04:24.600 Emily exercised the other platform she has,
00:04:27.920 the New York Times,
00:04:29.000 with a holy crap bombshell on Brett Kavanaugh,
00:04:32.320 and I hope you're buckled in for this.
00:04:34.560 All right, so sincerely,
00:04:35.880 the allegations are horrifying.
00:04:38.180 You'd ask yourself,
00:04:40.620 what could be worse than attempted rape, Glenn?
00:04:43.060 Well, gang rape.
00:04:44.400 Yeah, but what could be worse than gang rape?
00:04:48.100 Well, here we go.
00:04:50.280 Emily in the New York Times reported that in September of 1985,
00:04:55.500 Brett Kavanaugh
00:04:56.720 threw a glass of ice at somebody.
00:05:03.480 Yes, yes, I'm sorry if this is a triggering event for you,
00:05:07.020 if you're all of a sudden, like,
00:05:08.240 you remember somebody coming at you,
00:05:10.220 Jack Frost,
00:05:10.980 trying to stab you with the icicles.
00:05:13.180 I get it.
00:05:13.980 I get it.
00:05:14.440 I'm sorry I had to bring this up.
00:05:17.300 The New York Times
00:05:18.840 is reporting on ice throwing.
00:05:25.000 Now, I heard this story originally from the New York Times.
00:05:28.760 I listened to a podcast, The Daily,
00:05:30.900 which I don't recommend.
00:05:32.040 I listen to it so you don't have to.
00:05:34.800 But I listened to it this morning,
00:05:36.440 and in that report,
00:05:39.580 and, you know, he went to jail.
00:05:41.460 And I thought,
00:05:42.320 he went to jail?
00:05:44.200 You'd think that would have come up.
00:05:47.060 No, he didn't go to jail.
00:05:49.060 There were no arrests made.
00:05:51.160 The charges were not filed.
00:05:53.340 Nothing.
00:05:54.260 Neither of those things happened.
00:05:56.520 Police were called
00:05:57.400 because they got into a fight,
00:05:59.540 and the police said,
00:06:01.220 okay, all right, all right.
00:06:03.080 Knock it off.
00:06:04.440 Go home.
00:06:05.420 Oh, well, we can't have somebody like that
00:06:08.780 on the Supreme Court, can we?
00:06:11.480 When he was, hang on,
00:06:12.700 when he was in college,
00:06:13.740 he was in a bar,
00:06:14.900 and some guy said something to him,
00:06:17.220 and he threw ice on him,
00:06:19.140 and the police were called,
00:06:20.820 and the police said,
00:06:21.460 hey, knock it off.
00:06:22.200 Go home.
00:06:22.680 I mean, what kind of madman,
00:06:25.400 what kind of Jack the Ripper
00:06:26.820 are we putting on the Supreme Court?
00:06:29.500 Thank you, New York Times.
00:06:33.660 This story does not live up to the,
00:06:37.620 even the editorial standards
00:06:39.480 of the New York Times.
00:06:41.820 Someone threw ice in 1985.
00:06:45.880 Really?
00:06:46.400 God forbid you ever go to Philadelphia.
00:06:50.880 Now, Emily,
00:06:52.140 the writer of this story,
00:06:53.620 her tweets make it obvious
00:06:55.080 that she's opinionated
00:06:56.540 against Brett Kavanaugh.
00:06:58.920 So now,
00:06:59.840 the New York Times
00:07:00.700 has been caught publishing
00:07:02.020 a supposed journalist
00:07:03.840 being an activist.
00:07:06.680 And this is not a mistake.
00:07:09.300 How did this story get through
00:07:10.660 the editorial staff?
00:07:13.180 Well, easy.
00:07:13.960 I believe they're probably
00:07:16.300 activists as well.
00:07:18.860 They're activists,
00:07:20.000 and this just goes to show
00:07:21.400 his temperament.
00:07:24.340 He might,
00:07:25.360 you know,
00:07:25.920 somebody might come in and say,
00:07:27.340 hey, I'm fighting for abortion
00:07:29.060 in the court,
00:07:29.720 and he might just take
00:07:30.860 a glass of ice
00:07:31.680 and throw it at that person.
00:07:35.960 Get used to it, America.
00:07:37.700 We have a full week of this
00:07:40.040 as we get closer to the vote.
00:07:42.060 The ridiculousness escalates
00:07:45.940 to a full-on clown show.
00:07:49.680 Probably by this afternoon.
00:07:52.380 Now, a clown show in the media
00:07:54.120 leading up to a circus
00:07:56.020 in the Senate.
00:07:59.000 You know what?
00:08:00.280 I guess nothing has changed.
00:08:01.520 But this time,
00:08:02.280 can I at least get
00:08:03.160 some cotton candy?
00:08:03.960 It's Tuesday,
00:08:11.020 October 2nd.
00:08:12.300 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:08:15.560 All right.
00:08:16.780 So,
00:08:18.520 Stu.
00:08:22.840 I'm a little disturbed,
00:08:24.180 but all right.
00:08:25.200 I know, I know.
00:08:27.580 The goalposts.
00:08:29.720 Man,
00:08:30.180 they just keep moving them.
00:08:33.380 I mean,
00:08:33.760 they must be tired.
00:08:34.980 Don't you think?
00:08:36.220 Well, they're heavy.
00:08:37.340 The goalposts are getting heavier
00:08:38.700 and heavier
00:08:39.380 because the farther you move them,
00:08:41.420 the harder it is to justify.
00:08:43.680 This is incredible.
00:08:45.780 Though I am very disturbed,
00:08:47.260 of course,
00:08:47.500 by these new allegations
00:08:48.380 against Brett Kavanaugh
00:08:49.580 that he threw frozen water
00:08:50.960 at someone.
00:08:52.160 Frozen water,
00:08:52.720 first of all,
00:08:53.260 can be sharp.
00:08:54.520 It can be heavy.
00:08:56.100 You know what?
00:08:56.700 People are like,
00:08:57.420 oh, that's not a big deal.
00:08:58.340 So what?
00:08:58.960 He threw ice.
00:08:59.880 Frozen water can't be dangerous.
00:09:01.300 Tell that to the people of Peru
00:09:02.860 where 22,000 people
00:09:05.280 were killed in an avalanche
00:09:06.400 in 1970.
00:09:07.380 Tell it to those people.
00:09:08.760 Tell it to those families.
00:09:10.180 See,
00:09:10.520 this is why he's not
00:09:11.360 on the Supreme Court.
00:09:12.680 Look at his temperament.
00:09:15.240 You don't have the temperament
00:09:16.320 to be anywhere near
00:09:17.580 that microphone,
00:09:18.480 Mr. Brigere.
00:09:18.940 I do have the temperament
00:09:20.600 to be on the Avenatti team,
00:09:22.980 however.
00:09:23.280 Oh, yeah,
00:09:23.540 of course you do.
00:09:24.140 I can jump right into that role.
00:09:25.560 Oh, yeah.
00:09:25.840 Dead dogs have that.
00:09:26.900 They spent, Glenn,
00:09:28.180 15 minutes
00:09:29.680 on this bar fight
00:09:31.540 on CNN this morning.
00:09:33.240 15 minutes
00:09:33.900 where they talked about
00:09:35.000 how,
00:09:36.000 look,
00:09:36.600 it's certainly
00:09:37.820 on its own.
00:09:39.000 This is their fairness.
00:09:39.860 On its own,
00:09:40.600 it would not be disqualifying.
00:09:42.020 Oh, really?
00:09:42.640 A bar fight
00:09:43.420 in which he's not
00:09:44.240 charged
00:09:44.820 or arrested
00:09:45.640 with anything
00:09:46.240 and the accusation
00:09:47.800 is he threw ice
00:09:48.800 on someone
00:09:49.200 wouldn't disqualify him
00:09:50.420 40 years later
00:09:51.360 for the Supreme Court?
00:09:52.060 Thanks for all
00:09:53.140 the wonderful
00:09:53.900 room you're giving him.
00:09:55.960 What leeway.
00:09:57.140 But here is a situation
00:09:58.080 where they're just like,
00:09:58.780 well,
00:09:58.960 but what it does say,
00:10:00.160 what it does say
00:10:01.440 is that it plays
00:10:02.440 into a larger picture
00:10:03.580 of this man.
00:10:04.780 He was in his anger
00:10:06.160 when he was drinking
00:10:07.220 and this shows
00:10:08.180 that he's capable
00:10:09.160 of doing these things.
00:10:10.740 I've never seen
00:10:11.360 anyone reach further.
00:10:12.460 I know.
00:10:12.720 If he would have come on
00:10:13.840 and he would not
00:10:14.780 have been angry,
00:10:16.640 I would have thought
00:10:17.820 something was up
00:10:18.540 because nobody
00:10:20.820 does that to my family.
00:10:22.900 Nobody,
00:10:23.280 nobody is going
00:10:24.160 to make those charges
00:10:25.040 and smear my name
00:10:27.000 without me
00:10:28.200 at least responding
00:10:29.740 forcefully.
00:10:30.580 And if you don't
00:10:31.640 like the anger,
00:10:33.100 I want you to hear
00:10:35.140 me clearly.
00:10:36.600 I did not have
00:10:38.760 sexual relations
00:10:40.240 with that same thing.
00:10:42.120 Oh, yeah.
00:10:43.080 He looked
00:10:43.820 and they praised him
00:10:45.700 for being angry
00:10:47.420 about it.
00:10:48.540 They praised him
00:10:49.640 for his forcefulness.
00:10:51.900 You could tell
00:10:52.760 the president was angry.
00:10:53.940 He wants to get back
00:10:55.000 to the business
00:10:55.620 of the American people.
00:10:57.920 So, no matter
00:10:58.960 what he did,
00:11:00.900 it would have been
00:11:01.820 a problem.
00:11:05.600 They keep moving
00:11:07.640 the goalposts.
00:11:09.660 Now, here is,
00:11:11.000 here is my plea
00:11:13.120 to Donald Trump.
00:11:16.460 First of all,
00:11:17.340 I don't believe
00:11:19.120 any other president
00:11:20.520 in my lifetime,
00:11:22.340 with an exception
00:11:23.160 of Reagan,
00:11:24.020 and I'm not even sure
00:11:25.280 Reagan would have
00:11:26.260 done it.
00:11:27.620 No other president
00:11:28.860 in my lifetime
00:11:29.780 would have
00:11:31.100 stuck,
00:11:32.380 stuck with Kavanaugh
00:11:34.060 all the way
00:11:35.300 through those hearings.
00:11:37.180 There's no way.
00:11:38.620 They would have said
00:11:39.380 the cost is too high.
00:11:40.880 They just wouldn't
00:11:41.840 have done it.
00:11:42.420 So, A,
00:11:44.840 points for Donald Trump
00:11:46.840 for having a spine
00:11:48.660 and going,
00:11:49.480 this is garbage.
00:11:55.200 B,
00:11:56.280 we're in this situation
00:12:00.540 now,
00:12:01.220 and if there is
00:12:02.360 nothing,
00:12:02.900 if there's ice fights,
00:12:04.700 don't give up the ship.
00:12:08.020 Do not move.
00:12:10.540 Because if you move
00:12:12.180 now,
00:12:13.460 they are going to do this
00:12:15.020 every single time,
00:12:16.680 and you cannot,
00:12:18.540 cannot
00:12:19.640 give any ground.
00:12:22.400 With that being said,
00:12:25.120 and I don't think
00:12:26.380 this is a chance
00:12:27.200 at all,
00:12:29.140 if Ford,
00:12:30.500 if those charges
00:12:31.720 turn out to be right,
00:12:32.640 you notice,
00:12:33.140 you notice the media
00:12:34.400 is not furthering
00:12:35.880 the Ford testimony.
00:12:37.380 They're no longer
00:12:38.220 on that.
00:12:38.920 Yeah.
00:12:39.300 Nobody's,
00:12:39.840 she's been abandoned already.
00:12:41.260 Right.
00:12:41.560 She's done.
00:12:42.520 She's done.
00:12:43.220 She served her purpose.
00:12:45.180 She bought time.
00:12:47.020 They used her
00:12:48.220 as a pivot
00:12:49.120 to something new.
00:12:51.200 Okay?
00:12:52.080 So,
00:12:52.800 there's nothing new there.
00:12:54.740 There's nothing new.
00:12:55.480 Or the press
00:12:56.360 would be saying,
00:12:57.100 you watch what's
00:12:58.080 going to come out
00:12:58.560 in this FBI.
00:12:59.620 They're not saying that.
00:13:01.060 They're not,
00:13:01.640 nobody has come out
00:13:03.260 and said,
00:13:04.500 you know what,
00:13:05.240 I was so offended
00:13:06.320 by how forceful
00:13:07.640 he was
00:13:08.340 and I wasn't
00:13:09.960 going to say anything
00:13:10.640 but I know
00:13:11.620 that that happened.
00:13:13.120 None of that
00:13:13.780 is happening.
00:13:15.240 What is happening
00:13:16.460 is people are saying,
00:13:17.840 you know,
00:13:18.380 I was for him
00:13:19.600 and I wasn't
00:13:20.160 going to say anything
00:13:20.980 but in,
00:13:22.220 you know,
00:13:22.500 as soon as he started
00:13:23.500 to say he was,
00:13:24.640 he was an altar boy,
00:13:27.280 I remember him drinking.
00:13:30.940 So,
00:13:31.480 that's what's coming now
00:13:32.560 and they're going
00:13:33.640 to go after perjury.
00:13:35.240 You watch.
00:13:36.500 That's,
00:13:36.800 by the end of the week,
00:13:38.220 that's what they'll
00:13:38.940 be talking about.
00:13:42.020 If Donald Trump,
00:13:43.860 please,
00:13:44.940 please,
00:13:46.160 Donald Trump,
00:13:47.220 the only chance
00:13:49.740 you have
00:13:50.840 and the only chance
00:13:52.020 the Republicans have,
00:13:54.300 if this thing
00:13:55.600 goes awry
00:13:56.480 in any way,
00:13:57.660 you have to have
00:14:02.080 a plan
00:14:02.820 and announce it
00:14:04.100 in the same
00:14:05.720 press conference
00:14:06.800 that you say,
00:14:09.500 you know,
00:14:10.260 he,
00:14:10.720 he,
00:14:11.240 you know,
00:14:11.780 quit or
00:14:12.440 the vote went down
00:14:13.200 and it burned down,
00:14:15.340 whatever it is,
00:14:15.980 whatever it is,
00:14:17.800 that press conference,
00:14:19.820 you must say,
00:14:21.500 and here's my next nominee
00:14:23.600 and we're going
00:14:24.460 to have it done
00:14:25.440 before the election.
00:14:27.820 Now,
00:14:28.280 the,
00:14:28.580 in my opinion,
00:14:29.580 the only one
00:14:30.560 that can stand
00:14:31.480 that is Mike Lee
00:14:32.740 because you don't need,
00:14:34.760 how long did it do,
00:14:35.620 take to do
00:14:36.160 the Jeff Sessions
00:14:37.080 vote?
00:14:38.860 I mean,
00:14:40.060 he was,
00:14:40.540 he brought in
00:14:41.080 January 20th,
00:14:42.340 he was inaugurated
00:14:43.140 and then February 8th,
00:14:44.740 he was,
00:14:45.240 the vote went down.
00:14:46.020 So,
00:14:46.340 four weeks.
00:14:47.160 Three,
00:14:47.480 four weeks.
00:14:47.860 And that was,
00:14:48.300 you know,
00:14:48.440 probably could have been
00:14:48.940 faster,
00:14:49.240 he had other things
00:14:49.660 going on.
00:14:50.200 Okay,
00:14:50.400 so you have four weeks
00:14:51.360 to do it.
00:14:51.980 That's what you have
00:14:52.980 now for the election.
00:14:54.260 You have four weeks.
00:14:55.740 The one who can get that,
00:14:57.860 the one who doesn't need
00:14:59.220 all the FBI checks
00:15:00.680 and all of that
00:15:01.380 is Mike Lee.
00:15:02.660 It's already been done.
00:15:03.640 He's the only one
00:15:04.120 that can get done
00:15:04.620 that quickly.
00:15:05.500 Yeah,
00:15:05.860 he's the only one
00:15:06.640 that can be done
00:15:07.160 that quickly
00:15:07.780 or another senator,
00:15:08.860 but Mike Lee is the guy.
00:15:10.140 And Mike Lee's the only
00:15:10.860 senator on the list.
00:15:12.360 Yes.
00:15:13.080 So,
00:15:13.460 you've got Mike Lee,
00:15:15.920 you could select him,
00:15:18.060 let's just say
00:15:18.900 Brett Kavanaugh
00:15:19.540 is hit by a plane tomorrow.
00:15:22.220 Which,
00:15:22.860 I wouldn't.
00:15:23.400 It's a strange accident,
00:15:24.280 but it could happen,
00:15:24.940 I guess.
00:15:25.880 It happened in Indiana Jones
00:15:27.060 and one of them
00:15:28.960 where the guy,
00:15:29.400 they were fighting
00:15:29.840 on the tarmac
00:15:30.400 and the plane was turning around.
00:15:31.800 If that happens to Kavanaugh.
00:15:32.900 Well,
00:15:33.140 this one,
00:15:33.500 they won't be delivering
00:15:34.360 the arc in that plane.
00:15:35.580 They'll be delivering
00:15:36.260 the New York Times
00:15:37.900 in that plane.
00:15:38.780 But anyway,
00:15:39.500 so let's just say,
00:15:40.480 and it makes him
00:15:41.740 into sausage.
00:15:44.760 You need to announce
00:15:46.300 that Mike Lee
00:15:48.360 is the candidate.
00:15:50.340 We're going to have this
00:15:51.300 done by the election.
00:15:53.340 They're,
00:15:53.860 of course,
00:15:54.200 going to go crazy
00:15:55.040 because Mike Lee
00:15:55.880 is uber pro-life
00:15:59.260 and he would vote.
00:16:01.900 Well,
00:16:02.340 I mean,
00:16:02.660 the bottom line is
00:16:03.340 he cares about the Constitution
00:16:04.320 more than anything.
00:16:05.000 He will vote.
00:16:06.060 He will vote the Constitution
00:16:07.420 and he will also vote
00:16:08.980 for right of life.
00:16:10.080 He's not going to go in there
00:16:11.360 with an agenda,
00:16:12.080 but he is a right-to-life guy.
00:16:14.520 So,
00:16:14.860 Kavanaugh wasn't good enough.
00:16:15.980 Here's Mike Lee.
00:16:17.320 There's not going to be,
00:16:18.360 there's no drinking parties
00:16:19.480 with Mike Lee.
00:16:20.560 There's just no drinking parties.
00:16:22.100 Maybe,
00:16:22.780 and it'll be like,
00:16:23.680 Mike is like,
00:16:25.560 all right,
00:16:26.100 I confess,
00:16:26.860 I tasted beer
00:16:28.500 in 1983.
00:16:30.340 I didn't really like it,
00:16:31.740 but I tried it.
00:16:32.840 It was root beer?
00:16:33.700 Have you heard of this root beer?
00:16:34.680 Root beer.
00:16:36.120 So,
00:16:36.600 anyway,
00:16:37.120 he's the only one
00:16:39.260 that you could push through
00:16:40.940 because if you don't,
00:16:43.400 if you don't have a plan
00:16:45.360 immediately,
00:16:46.800 then the Democratic plan
00:16:50.200 works of delay.
00:16:52.520 Yeah,
00:16:52.740 and that's the most important point.
00:16:54.560 Their strategy is not to say
00:16:56.360 that Kavanaugh
00:16:57.440 is a sexual abuser.
00:16:59.500 Their strategy is not to say
00:17:00.920 anything about Kavanaugh
00:17:01.980 specifically.
00:17:02.960 Their strategy is to delay
00:17:04.400 this thing
00:17:05.180 so they can get to the election
00:17:06.700 and if they get past
00:17:07.740 the new Senate coming in,
00:17:10.100 they can potentially
00:17:11.380 have a chance
00:17:12.260 of stopping this.
00:17:13.820 Now,
00:17:13.960 if you were to,
00:17:14.600 the day after the,
00:17:15.780 the day after this goes down,
00:17:17.820 God forbid,
00:17:18.480 you know,
00:17:19.040 would they find something terrible
00:17:20.040 about him?
00:17:20.380 Let's say they find something
00:17:21.360 terrible about him,
00:17:21.920 right?
00:17:22.100 And everybody agrees
00:17:22.920 and it goes down 80 to 20,
00:17:24.500 right?
00:17:24.640 Like it's just one of those things
00:17:25.680 they found something terrible
00:17:26.560 about Kavanaugh.
00:17:27.900 We don't think that's going to happen.
00:17:29.020 However,
00:17:29.640 you must be prepared
00:17:30.960 for that potentiality.
00:17:32.260 You have to be ready for it
00:17:33.440 and if,
00:17:34.140 if you tried to go down
00:17:36.100 the other suggested road
00:17:37.540 that we talked a little bit
00:17:38.320 about yesterday,
00:17:38.880 which was,
00:17:40.160 you know,
00:17:40.480 a Diane Sykes
00:17:41.280 or,
00:17:41.920 you know,
00:17:42.160 an Allison Ide
00:17:42.860 or one of the other...
00:17:43.740 You won't make it to January.
00:17:44.720 You won't...
00:17:45.200 You might,
00:17:45.840 you could potentially
00:17:47.280 have enough time
00:17:47.880 before they seat the Senate
00:17:48.960 but I mean,
00:17:49.720 it's going to be really close
00:17:50.580 and you might not make it.
00:17:52.160 Lee is the only thing
00:17:52.800 you'd have
00:17:53.240 that you'd be able
00:17:53.900 to get that through fast enough.
00:17:54.860 Lee also is the guy
00:17:56.080 that everybody
00:17:56.620 in the Senate
00:17:57.260 has to look at
00:17:58.260 after they voted against.
00:18:00.140 I mean,
00:18:00.700 they will vote against.
00:18:02.020 Yeah,
00:18:02.080 the Democrats will still do it
00:18:03.060 but will,
00:18:03.580 would Jeff Flake
00:18:04.420 vote against,
00:18:05.060 you know,
00:18:05.720 Mike Lee?
00:18:06.140 I don't think so.
00:18:06.660 I just don't think so.
00:18:07.580 I don't think so.
00:18:08.780 You know,
00:18:09.120 I mean,
00:18:09.440 you know,
00:18:10.060 these people have
00:18:11.080 good relationships with Lee
00:18:12.200 even though they know,
00:18:12.980 they think he's too conservative
00:18:14.100 for them.
00:18:14.880 And remember,
00:18:15.460 it's advise and consent.
00:18:17.040 Now,
00:18:17.240 I know the Democrats
00:18:17.960 won't care about that
00:18:19.060 but there's a chance
00:18:20.200 that you can get
00:18:20.720 all of the Republicans
00:18:21.700 on board.
00:18:22.760 If you don't,
00:18:25.000 I want to lay out
00:18:26.260 some scenarios
00:18:27.040 of what we're looking at here
00:18:30.360 and please help me
00:18:31.920 with the good scenario.
00:18:34.720 I'll lay out
00:18:35.220 five or six scenarios
00:18:36.200 for you
00:18:36.700 when we come back
00:18:37.420 on what is headed our way.
00:18:42.740 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:18:49.060 All right,
00:18:51.840 I want you to think
00:18:52.400 of some scenarios
00:18:53.340 on how this ends
00:18:55.600 and the right way
00:18:57.060 to deal with all of it
00:18:58.320 and what it means
00:18:59.780 to the future.
00:19:02.860 We'll give those to you
00:19:03.740 here in a second.
00:19:04.320 We want to go over
00:19:04.920 some of the things
00:19:06.300 that people now are saying
00:19:07.700 about Brett Kavanaugh
00:19:09.500 and not the ridiculous stuff.
00:19:12.000 I'd rather focus on
00:19:15.840 two things.
00:19:19.060 This extra week
00:19:20.300 was to find out
00:19:21.300 if the Ford thing
00:19:24.440 was real.
00:19:26.360 I don't think that's real.
00:19:28.080 If it is real,
00:19:29.280 if they come up
00:19:30.160 with credible evidence
00:19:31.820 that it's real,
00:19:34.500 he's out.
00:19:35.640 You agree with that, Stu?
00:19:36.720 Yeah.
00:19:37.120 I mean,
00:19:37.340 I think if somehow
00:19:38.160 they were able to prove
00:19:39.000 that he did something
00:19:39.660 or really make you believe
00:19:40.780 he did.
00:19:41.300 Yeah.
00:19:41.560 I mean,
00:19:41.860 if it's credible evidence,
00:19:43.000 if it is preponderance
00:19:45.440 of evidence.
00:19:45.780 Yeah.
00:19:45.980 You know,
00:19:46.540 the details matter,
00:19:47.340 but yes,
00:19:47.780 generally speaking,
00:19:48.580 yes.
00:19:48.840 Okay.
00:19:50.000 Perjury.
00:19:51.560 This is what they're
00:19:52.560 going for now.
00:19:53.520 This is what Jeff Flake
00:19:54.500 has bought.
00:19:55.400 And what he purchased
00:19:56.520 was an extra week
00:19:59.080 for the media
00:20:00.840 and the Democrats
00:20:01.640 to move the goalposts.
00:20:03.700 And now the goalposts
00:20:05.220 are moving.
00:20:06.040 The goalposts now
00:20:07.220 are,
00:20:07.840 did he perjure himself?
00:20:08.940 Did he lie under oath?
00:20:10.420 And not about,
00:20:11.720 not about
00:20:13.240 Professor Ford,
00:20:16.060 but about what was
00:20:18.100 written in his yearbook.
00:20:20.400 So here are the things
00:20:22.020 that they are saying.
00:20:23.220 And you have to say,
00:20:24.160 is this,
00:20:26.520 would this rise
00:20:28.040 to the level
00:20:28.820 of perjury?
00:20:30.720 All right,
00:20:32.240 go ahead.
00:20:32.600 And I want to warn you,
00:20:34.120 we are about to use
00:20:34.840 highly technical medical terms.
00:20:37.680 And if you are,
00:20:38.540 this may be go a little bit
00:20:39.480 over your head,
00:20:39.880 that's okay.
00:20:40.400 Stick with us.
00:20:41.300 Okay.
00:20:42.180 Judge Kavanaugh's yearbook page
00:20:43.260 included the entries,
00:20:44.180 Judge,
00:20:44.640 have you boofed yet?
00:20:45.760 Have you boofed yet?
00:20:48.880 And Devil's Triangle.
00:20:49.880 On Thursday,
00:20:50.520 he said,
00:20:51.240 boofed meant flatulence
00:20:52.740 and that the Devil's Triangle
00:20:54.080 was a drinking game
00:20:54.940 in which three glasses
00:20:55.720 were arranged
00:20:56.400 in a triangle.
00:20:58.880 This is disputed
00:21:00.160 according to the New York Times.
00:21:01.240 And I want to make sure
00:21:01.800 that you understand
00:21:02.340 that I'm reading
00:21:02.880 from what is supposedly
00:21:05.020 the greatest newspaper
00:21:06.580 ever created.
00:21:07.940 They are,
00:21:08.680 they are talking about
00:21:09.860 whether the word
00:21:10.580 boofed
00:21:11.320 means flatulence
00:21:12.820 or not.
00:21:14.700 Boofed,
00:21:15.140 boofed in the 1980s
00:21:16.220 was a term
00:21:17.080 that often referred
00:21:18.000 to,
00:21:18.960 well,
00:21:20.460 again,
00:21:20.660 technical terms,
00:21:21.360 anal sex.
00:21:22.380 And this is how
00:21:23.040 Judge Kavanaugh's classmates
00:21:24.220 said they interpreted
00:21:25.560 his comment.
00:21:26.680 They said they had
00:21:27.360 never used it
00:21:28.200 before as it referred
00:21:29.500 to flatulence.
00:21:30.640 Okay.
00:21:31.060 Now,
00:21:31.420 the term boofed,
00:21:33.040 Glenn,
00:21:33.580 was a term that I do remember
00:21:34.820 from my,
00:21:35.400 from my,
00:21:36.760 I would say,
00:21:37.240 elementary school days.
00:21:38.660 Oh, good.
00:21:39.560 Oh, well.
00:21:40.480 You know,
00:21:40.860 I mean,
00:21:41.080 middle school maybe.
00:21:43.120 I mean,
00:21:43.300 it was like,
00:21:43.820 I don't think
00:21:44.340 I necessarily knew
00:21:45.220 what it meant,
00:21:45.880 but I feel like
00:21:46.800 it had a sexual
00:21:47.500 connotation to it.
00:21:48.900 However,
00:21:49.180 what I found
00:21:49.700 is interesting
00:21:50.240 is as I was
00:21:52.060 talking to you
00:21:53.020 about this
00:21:53.460 this morning
00:21:53.800 before the show
00:21:54.400 and assuming
00:21:55.420 that everyone
00:21:56.300 would understand
00:21:57.200 that as what it meant,
00:21:58.420 you had a totally
00:21:59.300 different understanding
00:21:59.960 of the word.
00:22:00.800 Well,
00:22:01.240 I wasn't the hippest.
00:22:03.220 So.
00:22:03.560 No.
00:22:04.500 So I don't know.
00:22:05.760 No one's accused you
00:22:05.860 of that.
00:22:06.320 But I seem to remember
00:22:07.700 something,
00:22:09.000 I don't recall,
00:22:10.380 but I think we used to,
00:22:11.360 you know,
00:22:12.180 getting stoned
00:22:12.980 or something.
00:22:14.640 I can't remember
00:22:15.800 for sure.
00:22:16.300 The word boofed
00:22:16.660 meant getting stoned.
00:22:17.580 You were stoned
00:22:18.180 or getting stoned.
00:22:19.300 Something like that.
00:22:20.260 Maybe.
00:22:20.760 Okay.
00:22:21.640 Have you ever heard
00:22:22.120 the term spleef?
00:22:25.060 Yeah,
00:22:25.640 maybe.
00:22:25.940 I think that was
00:22:26.580 in that kind of that.
00:22:27.440 Times at Richmont Hyde?
00:22:28.380 Yeah,
00:22:28.720 maybe.
00:22:29.300 I mean,
00:22:29.900 it's been a long time.
00:22:31.880 Right.
00:22:32.160 Okay.
00:22:32.400 Okay.
00:22:33.480 But I looked it up
00:22:35.060 in the Urban Dictionary.
00:22:36.020 Okay.
00:22:36.340 So this is as close
00:22:38.560 as you can come
00:22:39.440 to like a founding document
00:22:41.800 of the word boofed.
00:22:43.060 Yes.
00:22:43.400 This is like,
00:22:44.080 if you go back
00:22:44.460 to the Federalist Papers
00:22:45.440 about boofing.
00:22:46.420 The Urban Dictionary.
00:22:47.260 That's what this is.
00:22:49.220 The Urban Dictionary.
00:22:50.540 All right.
00:22:51.000 To abuse any licit
00:22:52.820 or illicit substance
00:22:54.360 via insertion
00:22:55.880 into one's rectum.
00:22:57.660 That's the number one meaning.
00:22:59.040 That's the number one meaning.
00:22:59.900 I have never heard it
00:23:00.840 used like that.
00:23:02.020 Butt funneling.
00:23:03.700 Now,
00:23:04.740 I don't know who-
00:23:05.360 Again,
00:23:05.520 these are highly technical terms.
00:23:06.880 I don't know who says,
00:23:08.500 you know what?
00:23:09.400 I bet it's better
00:23:10.780 if we drink beer
00:23:11.880 through our butt.
00:23:13.720 But apparently,
00:23:15.340 that's been done.
00:23:17.400 I didn't know
00:23:18.320 you could do that.
00:23:19.440 I didn't know
00:23:20.220 you could do that either.
00:23:21.500 And I don't recommend it.
00:23:22.660 And it's not called
00:23:23.300 really drinking
00:23:23.860 if you do it that way.
00:23:24.680 No, it's really not.
00:23:25.640 As we're learning here,
00:23:26.480 boofing.
00:23:27.100 No.
00:23:27.600 I don't know
00:23:28.160 if you have butt blackouts,
00:23:31.200 if all of a sudden
00:23:31.940 your butt falls asleep.
00:23:33.180 I'm not sure.
00:23:34.060 I don't know.
00:23:34.340 I'm not sure.
00:23:35.740 Okay.
00:23:36.180 So,
00:23:36.540 there's the number one.
00:23:39.980 The next one is
00:23:41.020 something that is whack,
00:23:43.080 dumb,
00:23:44.240 or effed up.
00:23:45.740 Used to describe
00:23:46.580 objects,
00:23:47.500 people,
00:23:48.080 or stuff you don't want to do.
00:23:49.520 So,
00:23:49.780 you know,
00:23:50.460 that guy's a boof?
00:23:52.140 Yeah.
00:23:52.340 That guy's a boof?
00:23:52.820 I feel like that's maybe
00:23:53.860 also how I heard it,
00:23:54.900 now that you're saying it that way.
00:23:56.100 Because it was just kind of
00:23:56.620 like an insult.
00:23:57.760 Yeah,
00:23:57.960 that may have been.
00:23:58.740 Yeah.
00:23:59.380 Right?
00:23:59.780 I just don't,
00:24:00.460 I remember the words,
00:24:02.040 but I don't remember it
00:24:03.060 connected to,
00:24:04.060 you know,
00:24:05.220 sticking things into,
00:24:06.520 anyway.
00:24:07.960 Here's one that kind of
00:24:09.180 makes me feel a little better.
00:24:10.720 A synonym for weed.
00:24:12.860 Okay.
00:24:13.380 Yeah.
00:24:14.620 So,
00:24:15.280 how would it,
00:24:15.760 is there a sentence?
00:24:16.520 Smelled.
00:24:17.260 Use it in a sentence,
00:24:18.240 please.
00:24:18.720 Smelled dat boof.
00:24:22.180 Now,
00:24:22.780 I assume that's D-A-T
00:24:24.120 is what you're saying.
00:24:24.740 Yes.
00:24:25.020 Smelled dat boof.
00:24:26.020 Yes.
00:24:26.280 Okay, yes.
00:24:26.520 That makes me feel
00:24:27.200 uncomfortable.
00:24:28.400 Fifth,
00:24:29.360 the act of lifting
00:24:30.520 the bow
00:24:32.740 out of a whitewater kayak
00:24:34.700 while going over rocks,
00:24:36.600 waves,
00:24:37.000 or waterfalls.
00:24:38.060 What?
00:24:39.640 In order to launch
00:24:41.040 over hydraulics
00:24:42.300 or rocks.
00:24:43.160 This entry is sponsored
00:24:44.300 by Cabela's.
00:24:45.220 Yeah.
00:24:46.060 I've never heard that before.
00:24:47.340 Boof.
00:24:48.100 The low-toned noise
00:24:50.400 a dog makes
00:24:51.400 typically when they
00:24:53.180 are suspicious
00:24:54.020 or unsure
00:24:54.860 of whether they should
00:24:56.220 actually bark or not.
00:24:57.880 Now,
00:24:58.380 I haven't heard
00:24:58.760 a flatulence one,
00:25:00.020 but I have heard
00:25:00.520 many things related
00:25:01.460 to the butt,
00:25:02.840 which I think somewhat...
00:25:03.960 Boof.
00:25:04.340 Another term
00:25:05.160 for having sex.
00:25:07.260 That'd be in the butt,
00:25:08.340 Bob.
00:25:09.560 Okay, so...
00:25:10.520 Okay, so,
00:25:11.120 again,
00:25:11.880 I think this is
00:25:13.280 the interesting point here.
00:25:14.560 They're trying to say
00:25:15.280 this is essentially perjury.
00:25:17.060 There's no way
00:25:17.920 that's perjury to me.
00:25:18.960 That is a bonkers claim.
00:25:20.700 The idea that
00:25:21.420 that word
00:25:22.180 probably meant
00:25:23.000 different things
00:25:23.520 at different schools
00:25:24.200 as mine and yours did,
00:25:26.020 right?
00:25:26.260 As there are seven
00:25:27.220 different definitions
00:25:28.240 on Urban Dictionary
00:25:29.280 for it.
00:25:29.880 Now, not just because
00:25:30.740 flatulence didn't make it there
00:25:32.000 does not mean that
00:25:32.640 locally that was not
00:25:34.200 the way people used it.
00:25:35.500 But you do have
00:25:36.100 the problem
00:25:36.780 of people in Georgetown Prep
00:25:39.020 now starting to come out
00:25:40.820 and saying,
00:25:41.680 look, I was for him
00:25:43.260 and I don't think
00:25:44.740 he did this Ford thing.
00:25:46.740 But now that he was saying
00:25:49.400 that this is what
00:25:50.080 these words mean,
00:25:50.940 come on, man.
00:25:51.740 And that he was never
00:25:53.180 really fall down drunk.
00:25:55.420 Yeah, he was.
00:25:55.780 Okay, well,
00:25:56.140 so we have that one too.
00:25:57.040 You want to go to this?
00:25:57.640 Yeah, go to the next one.
00:25:58.420 All right, this is,
00:25:59.140 again, the list
00:26:00.700 of potential perjury
00:26:02.480 for Judge Kavanaugh.
00:26:05.340 The next one is
00:26:06.540 excessive drinking.
00:26:07.300 Judge Kavanaugh
00:26:07.820 portrayed himself
00:26:08.380 in his testimony
00:26:08.960 as enjoying a beer
00:26:09.980 or two in high school
00:26:11.000 and as a college student,
00:26:12.320 but not as someone
00:26:12.800 who often drank
00:26:13.780 to excess during those years.
00:26:15.100 I drank beer
00:26:15.720 with my friends,
00:26:16.400 end quote.
00:26:17.880 Then, this is disputed
00:26:19.240 is what they say
00:26:19.840 in the Times.
00:26:20.780 His statements are at odds
00:26:21.900 with some of his classmates
00:26:24.080 and how they remembered him.
00:26:25.960 Nearly a dozen college classmates
00:26:27.240 of Judge Kavanaugh
00:26:27.920 said they recalled
00:26:28.660 him indulging
00:26:30.140 in heavy drinking,
00:26:31.000 some saying,
00:26:32.060 so now it's less than a dozen
00:26:33.320 because some of them
00:26:34.300 said heavy drinking,
00:26:34.940 some saying
00:26:35.700 it was beyond normal consumption.
00:26:39.480 Parenthetical here.
00:26:40.580 To be sure,
00:26:41.240 a smaller number of classmates
00:26:42.580 said his drinking
00:26:43.140 was unexceptional.
00:26:44.920 So, again,
00:26:46.640 this is like,
00:26:47.840 judging yourself
00:26:48.800 and how much you drink
00:26:49.880 is notoriously difficult
00:26:51.660 as I would assume
00:26:52.720 a Mr. Alcoholic over here
00:26:54.140 would be able to tell you.
00:26:55.560 I mean,
00:26:56.220 the whole point is,
00:26:57.140 the toughest thing to do
00:26:58.240 is admit you're an alcoholic, right?
00:26:59.980 Yeah.
00:27:00.080 It's very possible
00:27:01.180 and I would say likely
00:27:03.020 that most people
00:27:04.100 who drink to excess
00:27:04.920 in these periods
00:27:05.700 would not necessarily say
00:27:07.380 that they're doing
00:27:07.860 something abnormal,
00:27:08.860 even if they are.
00:27:09.900 Here's how I take this.
00:27:11.700 I took that testimony
00:27:12.960 when I watched him
00:27:13.860 talk about drinking.
00:27:15.280 It was very clear
00:27:16.440 that he was getting drunk.
00:27:19.300 And he said,
00:27:20.040 look,
00:27:20.200 we all drank to excess.
00:27:21.420 We drank to excess.
00:27:22.600 We all did.
00:27:23.840 Haven't you done that?
00:27:25.080 I mean,
00:27:25.400 on the drinking thing,
00:27:27.280 I don't consider this a problem
00:27:29.020 because I believe
00:27:32.240 that he was,
00:27:33.720 in effect,
00:27:34.320 saying,
00:27:35.160 yeah,
00:27:35.860 but there is a difference
00:27:37.180 between a blackout.
00:27:39.520 Okay?
00:27:41.140 And maybe he had blackouts
00:27:43.040 and didn't remember them.
00:27:44.240 I don't believe that at all.
00:27:45.540 You have a blackout,
00:27:46.600 you remember it.
00:27:47.640 You don't remember what happened.
00:27:49.260 You remember that you blacked out.
00:27:50.220 But you remember you were like,
00:27:51.500 oh, crap,
00:27:52.000 I don't even remember.
00:27:52.980 Now,
00:27:53.200 maybe at 17,
00:27:55.140 you know,
00:27:55.480 you're like,
00:27:55.860 oh,
00:27:56.300 that was so crazy.
00:27:57.620 I don't even remember that.
00:27:59.600 Maybe you're at 17
00:28:00.800 and doing that,
00:28:01.520 but you have to consume
00:28:02.440 a lot of alcohol.
00:28:04.400 I,
00:28:04.860 you know,
00:28:05.540 I got to,
00:28:06.120 may I ask a,
00:28:07.320 may I bring me an expert witness?
00:28:08.640 Yes.
00:28:09.020 And Glenn Beck,
00:28:09.900 please come to the stands.
00:28:11.820 You know,
00:28:13.380 to me,
00:28:15.440 I'm going to make it
00:28:15.960 a generalization,
00:28:16.900 but with a specific accusation.
00:28:19.560 95% of people
00:28:21.000 who say they drank
00:28:22.040 to the point of blacking out
00:28:23.100 are lying.
00:28:24.540 I believe it's 95%.
00:28:26.500 I believe that blackouts
00:28:27.780 do exist,
00:28:28.840 but it is extraordinarily rare.
00:28:30.680 I had to spend a week in France,
00:28:31.840 which I can't believe
00:28:32.660 my liver returned with me.
00:28:33.920 I thought for sure
00:28:34.740 it was going to be like,
00:28:35.420 you know what?
00:28:35.680 I'm staying on the beach here,
00:28:36.560 right?
00:28:37.420 I drank,
00:28:38.100 I drank a lot there.
00:28:39.060 I would think that it would have been saying,
00:28:39.800 I got to get back home.
00:28:41.280 I got to try out.
00:28:42.460 My point though,
00:28:43.400 is that I've had a lot to drink
00:28:45.120 in my life at certain times.
00:28:46.280 I've never even been
00:28:47.460 remotely close to something
00:28:48.920 I would consider it like that.
00:28:49.660 alcohol that you have to consume
00:28:51.540 in a very short period of time.
00:28:54.620 Now I've done,
00:28:55.400 I've,
00:28:56.040 I've done my homework on it
00:28:57.620 and it's not exactly the way
00:29:00.420 I have experienced it.
00:29:03.200 Apparently you can have blackouts
00:29:05.780 if you drink a,
00:29:07.440 an enormous amount of alcohol.
00:29:09.220 If you,
00:29:10.060 well,
00:29:10.340 if you were boofing,
00:29:11.640 maybe,
00:29:12.620 if,
00:29:13.700 if an enormous amount of alcohol
00:29:15.340 gets into your bloodstream quickly,
00:29:17.000 you can black out.
00:29:21.300 I have read places where they say
00:29:23.700 it's rare.
00:29:24.620 Some places say it's common.
00:29:27.080 I'm sorry,
00:29:28.060 but I do not believe,
00:29:29.700 I believe it's a movie trick
00:29:31.400 that most people,
00:29:33.020 you know,
00:29:33.200 they're like,
00:29:33.980 Oh,
00:29:34.200 we did one last night.
00:29:36.060 We had sex.
00:29:37.460 No,
00:29:37.920 right.
00:29:38.520 Shut up.
00:29:39.260 95% of the time,
00:29:40.420 95%.
00:29:40.980 That's a lot.
00:29:41.660 I had a friend who had drank a lot
00:29:43.600 in a very short period of time.
00:29:45.420 And blacked out,
00:29:46.200 blacked out,
00:29:46.780 fell off a stage
00:29:47.620 and had to go to the hospital.
00:29:49.100 And that was a legit,
00:29:50.300 this is in college.
00:29:51.180 Yeah.
00:29:51.360 And that was a legitimate,
00:29:52.400 like he drank way too much.
00:29:53.820 Nothing.
00:29:54.340 He didn't do anything wrong.
00:29:55.480 He just fell off the stage
00:29:56.600 and almost killed himself.
00:29:57.520 And didn't remember any of it.
00:29:58.460 And,
00:29:58.820 and just remembered being there,
00:30:00.600 but did not remember the falling
00:30:01.820 or anything.
00:30:02.120 Okay.
00:30:03.000 And so I'm not saying it never happens,
00:30:05.180 but like the idea that you would say
00:30:06.880 to someone,
00:30:07.360 Oh,
00:30:07.680 this guy's lying.
00:30:08.980 He did blackout is completely absurd.
00:30:11.840 You can't,
00:30:12.520 you cannot,
00:30:13.400 you cannot accuse someone
00:30:15.180 of lying about that.
00:30:16.120 Only they would know if it occurred.
00:30:17.740 You can say that,
00:30:19.180 and this is what they are saying,
00:30:20.920 that he lied because he said,
00:30:23.760 you know,
00:30:24.060 he,
00:30:24.240 he gave the impression
00:30:25.640 that,
00:30:26.680 uh,
00:30:27.020 he wasn't ever out of control,
00:30:28.700 falling down drunk.
00:30:30.580 Well,
00:30:31.040 okay.
00:30:31.300 I don't believe that,
00:30:32.240 but I also don't,
00:30:33.000 I wasn't left with that impression.
00:30:34.540 No,
00:30:34.920 he said,
00:30:35.420 I mean,
00:30:35.700 the quote is I drank beer with my friends.
00:30:37.840 Almost everyone did.
00:30:38.740 Sometimes I had too many beers.
00:30:40.580 Sometimes others did.
00:30:41.480 I like beer.
00:30:42.080 I still like beer,
00:30:42.680 but I did not drink beer to the point of blacking out.
00:30:44.620 He just said,
00:30:45.040 I didn't black out.
00:30:45.640 He didn't say he drank to excess.
00:30:46.940 In fact,
00:30:47.180 he said,
00:30:47.580 I have drank to excess.
00:30:49.340 And you know,
00:30:49.920 I mean,
00:30:50.100 I am not a big drinker in my life,
00:30:51.800 but I've drank to excess several times,
00:30:53.860 but never,
00:30:54.740 I mean,
00:30:54.960 the idea that getting to black,
00:30:56.300 blackout drunk,
00:30:57.400 here may be a different story,
00:30:59.160 but getting the blackout drunk is,
00:31:00.660 I mean,
00:31:00.880 you've told me some of the levels of alcohol you've had in your life.
00:31:04.900 The levels are almost inhuman.
00:31:07.880 Like I would definitely be dead.
00:31:10.000 You're,
00:31:10.280 I mean,
00:31:10.560 you're dumping poison into your system.
00:31:12.200 And it's a lot of it.
00:31:13.220 Your body can't handle it.
00:31:14.700 A blackout is shutting your body down.
00:31:17.660 Saying,
00:31:18.220 I can't keep you alive and run all of these other systems.
00:31:22.620 Right.
00:31:22.800 I mean,
00:31:23.560 that's,
00:31:23.880 that's,
00:31:24.340 you know,
00:31:24.600 that's intense.
00:31:30.340 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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00:31:50.620 You know,
00:31:50.920 I was thinking about it the other day.
00:31:52.300 I was watching CNN and I saw three former blaze employees sitting there.
00:31:57.840 And I thought I had been so blessed to work with some amazing,
00:32:01.220 amazing people.
00:32:02.360 You know,
00:32:03.700 when they were young and,
00:32:04.840 and before they got famous and it's,
00:32:07.580 it's just,
00:32:08.120 it's,
00:32:08.520 I don't know.
00:32:09.580 It's really satisfying.
00:32:11.080 One of the guys that I think of often,
00:32:12.920 and I,
00:32:13.360 I have no idea why I let him walk out the door.
00:32:16.900 But I don't think,
00:32:17.600 I think I would have had to block it with my own body,
00:32:19.940 which he wouldn't have been able to move,
00:32:21.160 but because he went to go become one of the founders of the Federalist,
00:32:27.920 which is a great group of,
00:32:31.160 of thinkers online.
00:32:33.420 He has just written a book called first freedom,
00:32:35.840 a ride through America's enduring history with the guns.
00:32:38.720 And his name is David Harsani.
00:32:40.460 Hi,
00:32:40.660 David.
00:32:40.880 How are you?
00:32:42.020 I'm well,
00:32:42.500 thanks for having me.
00:32:43.480 You bet.
00:32:44.180 So I appreciate it.
00:32:45.200 You're a bigger guy than people think or know.
00:32:49.080 So thank you for that.
00:32:50.420 I think it was a fat joke.
00:32:51.200 I mean that in a good way.
00:32:52.300 Yeah.
00:32:53.760 David,
00:32:54.160 before we go into your book here,
00:32:55.320 just give me a minute on your take on Kavanaugh and what's going to happen.
00:32:59.780 I think he's going to get through.
00:33:03.120 And I think,
00:33:03.780 I think this is one of the ugliest smears we've seen,
00:33:06.880 and at least in my life covering politics and thinking about politics.
00:33:10.360 And I think it's going to backfire in that it's really brought together.
00:33:13.800 Never.
00:33:14.320 Most of the never Trumpers and all the sort of disparate parts of the right and
00:33:18.560 rightly so.
00:33:19.640 And,
00:33:19.900 and if not,
00:33:22.140 I was listening to you before,
00:33:23.140 I think that Trump has to be ready for that and they have to push through
00:33:25.520 someone else because the courts,
00:33:27.260 especially when you have a divided political,
00:33:29.780 political environment,
00:33:30.900 as you do today,
00:33:31.820 the,
00:33:31.940 the Supreme court's incredibly important.
00:33:34.040 And you know,
00:33:35.460 he's,
00:33:35.960 there was,
00:33:36.500 there's a rightful seat there for the,
00:33:37.820 for the,
00:33:38.400 for a conservative and Trump should do what he has to do to get it through.
00:33:41.200 What do you think about,
00:33:41.980 what do you think about Mike Lee?
00:33:43.300 As everyone knows him,
00:33:44.400 you don't need the FBI.
00:33:45.460 You could vote in a week.
00:33:47.760 I love the idea.
00:33:48.820 I mean,
00:33:49.080 and,
00:33:49.280 and you know,
00:33:49.500 he is not going to like wander off.
00:33:51.260 No,
00:33:51.800 no,
00:33:53.060 no,
00:33:53.620 no.
00:33:54.420 He's hardcore.
00:33:55.320 So I'd be very happy with that.
00:33:56.840 Yeah.
00:33:56.960 Okay.
00:33:57.220 So let's talk about,
00:33:58.140 let's talk about your book.
00:33:58.900 The thing I like about your book is that you do not shy away from America's gun culture.
00:34:08.280 Yeah.
00:34:08.700 I think we talk a lot about the politics of gun and guns.
00:34:11.260 And obviously it's important,
00:34:12.400 the ideology behind it.
00:34:13.460 But I think a lot of people miss the culture behind it.
00:34:16.180 The hundreds of years of,
00:34:18.160 of,
00:34:18.460 of embedded culture,
00:34:19.680 not just,
00:34:20.640 not just in war,
00:34:21.720 but in,
00:34:22.140 in commerce and in,
00:34:24.480 in just the individual lives of Americans and how important it was and how that is in our
00:34:28.760 DNA.
00:34:29.440 And that's why we talk about guns the way we do.
00:34:31.820 So,
00:34:31.960 because I grew up in New York and guns were sort of alien to my,
00:34:35.740 you know,
00:34:36.420 neighborhood and place I grew up on,
00:34:37.900 less criminals had them.
00:34:39.560 I thought it was important to try to figure out what that was about.
00:34:42.000 And,
00:34:42.380 you know,
00:34:42.920 that's what the book's about.
00:34:44.020 Wow.
00:34:44.180 So,
00:34:44.400 so how did you,
00:34:45.300 I mean,
00:34:45.580 what did you find?
00:34:46.700 I,
00:34:46.860 I didn't know that you were,
00:34:48.440 you know,
00:34:49.560 not,
00:34:50.060 not part of the gun culture.
00:34:51.440 I grew up in the gun culture,
00:34:53.320 if you will,
00:34:53.840 my grandfather and my uncles,
00:34:55.220 we,
00:34:55.460 you know,
00:34:55.700 they'd go hunting and fishing and we always had guns around.
00:35:01.160 And it takes on a different meaning to me and to people who grew up around them.
00:35:07.660 What'd you find?
00:35:09.220 Right.
00:35:09.660 I mean,
00:35:10.020 you know,
00:35:10.460 where I grew up every,
00:35:11.540 you know,
00:35:11.720 if you mentioned guns or if someone had a gun,
00:35:13.360 they'd immediately think about it in a negative way,
00:35:15.660 not something that would be positive.
00:35:17.020 So,
00:35:18.100 you know,
00:35:18.600 just the personal story,
00:35:19.640 my,
00:35:19.780 my dad had a little jewelry store in New York and it was robbed.
00:35:22.640 And right after that,
00:35:24.180 my dad tried to get a gun and it was this,
00:35:25.860 you know,
00:35:26.860 this painstaking process of trying to get one to protect your own property and your own work and your own family.
00:35:33.200 So that's,
00:35:33.920 I think when I started turning towards,
00:35:36.000 you know,
00:35:36.800 having a curiosity about what it was about.
00:35:38.720 And then when I moved to Denver and lived in Colorado and other places,
00:35:41.000 I saw what it was really about and,
00:35:43.440 and how people treated it and how like an NRA member is the most,
00:35:47.020 most responsible person on earth,
00:35:48.840 you know,
00:35:49.060 when it comes to guns.
00:35:50.200 So,
00:35:50.420 uh,
00:35:51.200 yeah.
00:35:51.340 And I don't know if that people know,
00:35:52.960 they don't,
00:35:53.380 they don't understand that at all.
00:35:54.780 Um,
00:35:55.100 take me through some of the stories that you,
00:35:57.400 you talk about.
00:35:58.480 Cause I,
00:35:58.800 what I like about this is it's not a gun.
00:36:00.960 This is not a book about,
00:36:02.400 um,
00:36:03.720 you know,
00:36:04.000 necessarily the laws and everything else.
00:36:05.600 This is a story about America and how we,
00:36:10.440 we do.
00:36:11.500 I mean,
00:36:11.940 we're unlike any other nation on earth when it comes to guns in our history.
00:36:17.560 Take me through like,
00:36:19.140 uh,
00:36:19.520 either Sam Colt or,
00:36:20.940 or Buffalo bill,
00:36:22.440 two of my favorites.
00:36:23.420 Well,
00:36:24.000 Sam Colt's just one of the most amazing Americans that ever lived.
00:36:26.920 I mean,
00:36:27.120 not only was he an engineer and,
00:36:29.100 and just created this incredible innovation where a person went from firing
00:36:32.900 one,
00:36:33.360 you know,
00:36:34.300 musket shot once a minute,
00:36:35.800 or maybe twice a minute to shooting five times in mere seconds.
00:36:39.300 He was also just an innovator in,
00:36:41.520 in,
00:36:41.620 in marketing,
00:36:42.500 in selling himself in,
00:36:44.600 in using the press to,
00:36:47.480 to,
00:36:47.660 to sell,
00:36:48.180 sell to other people and using,
00:36:49.280 and using engineering to,
00:36:51.920 to create something that he can make cheaper.
00:36:53.500 So the normal American,
00:36:54.600 the normal man,
00:36:55.680 the normal woman can get their hands on it and,
00:36:57.820 um,
00:36:58.140 changed the West.
00:36:59.300 It changed the way that we,
00:37:00.720 the relationship a person has with,
00:37:02.600 with a weapon.
00:37:04.060 And,
00:37:04.540 um,
00:37:05.200 he also had,
00:37:05.760 you know,
00:37:06.040 he was before Henry Ford,
00:37:07.380 he was using interchangeable parts.
00:37:08.860 It was like the first industrial revolution.
00:37:10.500 So he was just amazing man.
00:37:12.100 And almost,
00:37:12.880 it was my favorite chapter to write.
00:37:14.240 I think he needs,
00:37:15.280 you know,
00:37:15.520 more,
00:37:15.860 we need a full book on him.
00:37:17.660 Yeah.
00:37:18.340 So,
00:37:18.880 um,
00:37:19.380 here we are at the,
00:37:20.880 the one year anniversary of,
00:37:23.540 uh,
00:37:23.960 Las Vegas and the shooting of Las Vegas.
00:37:26.640 Um,
00:37:27.120 did you,
00:37:27.940 in your,
00:37:28.620 um,
00:37:29.220 looking through history,
00:37:30.680 did you ever find another time,
00:37:33.480 in American history?
00:37:34.260 And I should say,
00:37:35.300 you know,
00:37:36.600 uh,
00:37:37.360 pre-progressive,
00:37:39.540 uh,
00:37:40.400 where guns had been viewed in America as anything but good.
00:37:47.620 No,
00:37:48.120 I,
00:37:48.260 I sort of actually,
00:37:49.100 you know,
00:37:49.380 in,
00:37:49.600 in the,
00:37:50.040 in the 19th century,
00:37:51.080 guns were sort of idealized and romanticized in books and things of that nature.
00:37:54.840 It wasn't until the thirties really when anyone started to think about,
00:37:58.140 um,
00:37:59.280 and,
00:37:59.420 and,
00:37:59.660 and for some good reason,
00:38:00.740 people were running around with machine guns shooting up places,
00:38:03.100 you know,
00:38:03.500 Chicago and elsewhere.
00:38:04.300 So,
00:38:04.800 I mean,
00:38:05.000 there was a legitimate fear that some people had.
00:38:07.860 Um,
00:38:08.180 but before that time,
00:38:09.080 no one even thought to limit gun ownership in any way.
00:38:12.280 I mean,
00:38:12.480 certain places in the West,
00:38:13.880 maybe they had certain areas where you couldn't have a gun because everyone was drunk and fighting,
00:38:17.940 but generally no one had to go and ask the government,
00:38:20.960 the state,
00:38:21.460 uh,
00:38:22.380 for a gun.
00:38:23.160 And I think in fact,
00:38:24.040 that when you think about the second amendment,
00:38:25.920 how you think about the ideals behind it tells us a lot about how you think about freedom in general.
00:38:30.940 I think you're pretty authoritarian if you think that the individual shouldn't be able to defend themselves and rather should rely solely on the state.
00:38:37.840 Cause you could have,
00:38:39.180 um,
00:38:39.880 you could have had a Gatling gun.
00:38:41.380 I think you can still buy a Gatling gun,
00:38:43.300 um,
00:38:44.320 legally,
00:38:44.760 uh,
00:38:45.280 but you could buy a Gatling gun,
00:38:46.660 but we didn't have those,
00:38:48.100 you know,
00:38:48.380 the mass shootings.
00:38:49.680 Uh,
00:38:50.180 one,
00:38:50.520 it's a little harder to conceal a Gatling gun in a violin case,
00:38:54.020 but also because the government's prohibition of alcohol led to the formation of these huge,
00:39:03.400 terrible,
00:39:03.740 and powerful mobs.
00:39:05.140 Yeah.
00:39:07.040 And,
00:39:07.460 and,
00:39:07.480 you know,
00:39:07.580 they use Tommy guns and you see them in the movie movies and,
00:39:10.840 um,
00:39:11.460 you know,
00:39:11.740 it's kind of fixed.
00:39:13.080 It's fictitious only in that,
00:39:14.460 that the gun has,
00:39:15.260 you know,
00:39:15.740 big blowback and it's not that easy to shoot.
00:39:18.020 And it was almost never really used in criminal activities.
00:39:21.360 It was more scaremongering by people who wanted to ban them.
00:39:24.280 I'm not,
00:39:24.400 I'm not saying people should have Tommy guns and driving around in their cars,
00:39:27.300 but I'm just saying,
00:39:27.960 I am.
00:39:28.980 Yeah.
00:39:29.240 I'm okay with that.
00:39:30.140 If you're a responsible citizen,
00:39:31.280 I'm fine with that.
00:39:32.500 That's true.
00:39:33.140 That's true.
00:39:33.520 Well,
00:39:33.920 so,
00:39:34.320 so,
00:39:34.680 um,
00:39:35.260 David,
00:39:35.700 um,
00:39:36.260 when we worked together,
00:39:37.880 how long ago was it?
00:39:38.820 10 years ago?
00:39:40.820 I don't know.
00:39:42.140 Yeah.
00:39:42.540 Yeah.
00:39:42.620 Almost.
00:39:43.100 Yeah.
00:39:43.340 So 10 years ago,
00:39:44.460 if I would have said to you in your lifetime,
00:39:47.780 do you think there will be a serious move,
00:39:52.040 um,
00:39:53.240 that either comes close or does take away America's right to guns?
00:39:59.080 You would have thought that was a crazy question.
00:40:01.180 If I'm not mistaken,
00:40:02.520 don't you think?
00:40:02.940 10 years ago.
00:40:05.520 Actually,
00:40:05.980 yeah,
00:40:06.120 I do,
00:40:06.400 but I do feel better about the second amendment than I do the first,
00:40:10.200 fourth,
00:40:10.540 fifth and others.
00:40:11.860 Yeah.
00:40:12.060 Um,
00:40:12.380 because there were 400 million guns out there.
00:40:15.320 And I think that the people who,
00:40:16.680 who are part of the culture that I'm writing about and talking about will not hand them
00:40:20.840 over that easily.
00:40:21.580 So I'm,
00:40:22.540 I'm less worried about them than I am.
00:40:24.560 Uh,
00:40:25.340 uh,
00:40:25.560 certainly the first amendment,
00:40:27.340 I think foremost,
00:40:28.340 but others as well.
00:40:29.100 Well,
00:40:29.320 you lose the second and you definitely lose the first.
00:40:31.980 That's right.
00:40:32.480 I wonder,
00:40:33.160 I wonder,
00:40:34.460 uh,
00:40:35.280 you know,
00:40:35.720 I wonder what it's going to take before people wake up to the road that we're,
00:40:39.180 we're sadly on.
00:40:40.660 Uh,
00:40:41.100 the name of the book is first freedom,
00:40:43.060 a ride through America's enduring history of the gun.
00:40:46.260 It is a great read.
00:40:47.480 It's David Harsany,
00:40:49.040 first freedom.
00:40:49.820 It's out today.
00:40:50.960 You can get it at Amazon or wherever books are sold.
00:40:53.660 David,
00:40:53.920 thanks so much.
00:40:58.980 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:41:01.060 And don't forget rate us on iTunes.
00:41:15.120 I am not one to issue trigger warnings,
00:41:18.040 but this particular sound has triggered one person.
00:41:23.840 She says that she gets this awful feeling like she's about to fall off a cliff.
00:41:33.020 She says,
00:41:33.980 as soon as I hear helicopters,
00:41:35.720 I fall back into that nightmare.
00:41:38.180 She even got the feeling one time while watching American Ninja Warrior,
00:41:42.060 because it was filmed in Las Vegas.
00:41:46.860 So it's American Ninja Warrior in Vegas.
00:41:49.120 It's helicopters and some of her favorite music.
00:41:52.460 In fact,
00:41:53.460 her favorite,
00:41:54.780 she cannot listen to,
00:41:56.980 Jason Aldean.
00:42:00.140 Her name is Mega Panzera.
00:42:04.280 She said that even,
00:42:05.840 even when she passes a food truck,
00:42:07.980 that night will come back.
00:42:09.480 Crashing intensity that engulfs her.
00:42:11.940 She's in the middle of the panic,
00:42:13.260 and she can hear the gunshots,
00:42:14.680 one after another,
00:42:16.060 after another,
00:42:16.840 after another.
00:42:17.480 Like the sound that little boys make for machine guns,
00:42:21.540 she said.
00:42:23.340 She can see the faces of the people as they sprint toward her.
00:42:27.000 Some of them fall,
00:42:27.900 some of them don't get back up.
00:42:29.400 She can smell the crisp desert air of October in Las Vegas.
00:42:33.680 The aroma of food fanning out of the food trucks with their motors that are usually so loud,
00:42:39.780 stinking with beer that people dropped as they ran.
00:42:43.500 She can hear the screams.
00:42:44.840 The screams for her that never seemed to stop.
00:42:50.840 And the feedback from the guitars flung onto the stage and abandoned.
00:42:55.420 Yet despite all of that,
00:42:57.880 the engulfing terror of that feeling,
00:43:01.620 it only takes one sound to bring her back.
00:43:06.300 It's this sound.
00:43:07.640 The tiny cry of her baby,
00:43:11.740 her son,
00:43:12.780 her hero.
00:43:17.280 Megan went to the Route 91 Harvest Festival.
00:43:21.600 It was October 1st, 2017.
00:43:23.860 A country music festival that became the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
00:43:29.160 For Megan, though,
00:43:30.400 it all started as a date with her then-boyfriend,
00:43:34.680 Valdo Panzera Jr.
00:43:36.060 He was from New Jersey.
00:43:38.400 He was in for the weekend to visit her in Las Vegas.
00:43:41.020 She was working there as a teacher.
00:43:42.480 They had been looking forward to the weekend for a while.
00:43:44.680 No stress.
00:43:45.280 They were just going to go see some,
00:43:47.200 you know, music,
00:43:48.040 have some food,
00:43:48.740 have a great time together.
00:43:50.020 Some of their favorite country musicians,
00:43:52.400 they were all there for that same weekend,
00:43:54.100 and they talked about it.
00:43:55.680 And more and more each day,
00:43:57.060 they got excited.
00:43:58.140 But when the day finally arrived,
00:44:01.700 Megan felt a little gutted.
00:44:04.260 She was exhausted.
00:44:06.060 She really wanted to go,
00:44:08.860 but she had been feeling sick a lot lately.
00:44:11.140 So the morning of that concert,
00:44:14.540 they went to the doctor.
00:44:17.320 And by fate that morning,
00:44:19.600 they found out that she was pregnant.
00:44:24.880 She and Valdo were going to be parents.
00:44:28.620 She said it was a strange realization to have.
00:44:31.320 She said,
00:44:31.840 given the setting,
00:44:34.640 and it happened so fast,
00:44:36.600 and I didn't expect it,
00:44:37.820 that maybe it didn't fully kick in.
00:44:41.880 Either way,
00:44:42.740 she was now tired and pregnant,
00:44:44.660 and she had plenty of excuses
00:44:46.520 to skip the up-close festival experience
00:44:49.380 and, you know,
00:44:49.920 just go sit in the bleachers at the back.
00:44:52.860 But the passes weren't cheap.
00:44:54.560 Something deep inside of her,
00:44:58.180 she says now,
00:44:58.900 kept telling her,
00:45:00.440 it was the right thing to do.
00:45:03.640 It was the right thing to do.
00:45:05.620 Go.
00:45:07.880 She's returned to that assurance.
00:45:10.040 That assurance that put her in the bleachers.
00:45:16.780 The view and the sound wasn't very good.
00:45:20.380 She had paid for great spots.
00:45:23.220 But she thought,
00:45:24.660 this would be a better place for me.
00:45:26.240 It's just,
00:45:26.840 it'll be a little more relaxing.
00:45:28.260 I'll be back from the crowd.
00:45:29.780 I can watch them enjoy themselves.
00:45:31.860 And we're all together after all.
00:45:35.120 There they were sitting in the bleachers,
00:45:37.220 not where they had paid to be.
00:45:40.780 And then around 10 o'clock that night,
00:45:43.260 during Jason Aldean's performance,
00:45:45.220 it happened.
00:45:47.460 So many things happened.
00:45:49.480 Too many things happened all at once.
00:45:52.640 So many things at once
00:45:54.440 that they continued to replay
00:45:55.700 all the different things
00:45:56.780 one at a time to this day.
00:45:59.500 It started with confusion.
00:46:01.780 The firecrackers
00:46:02.740 that turned into machine gun barrage.
00:46:05.160 The screams.
00:46:07.380 They said they couldn't believe
00:46:08.560 that all the screams
00:46:10.080 just kept going.
00:46:11.380 All of it.
00:46:12.340 Imagine the panic they felt
00:46:13.840 as 20,000 people
00:46:15.220 turned around all at once
00:46:16.680 and started running directly at them.
00:46:19.160 Everyone ran.
00:46:20.060 Everyone was just trying to stay alive
00:46:21.560 to protect themselves
00:46:23.620 or someone near them.
00:46:25.220 The bullets were falling like hail
00:46:27.620 in a tornado.
00:46:28.320 They looked down
00:46:29.600 as the bullets were falling
00:46:31.280 right where they would have been
00:46:33.180 if Megan hadn't been so tired
00:46:37.220 and pregnant
00:46:38.840 and hadn't listened to her voice inside.
00:46:43.400 So their seats at the back
00:46:47.340 saved them
00:46:47.960 or as they see it
00:46:49.640 their son
00:46:50.920 saved them
00:46:52.180 because from the back
00:46:54.400 they were able to quickly escape
00:46:56.140 although as they sprinted to safety
00:46:58.720 Valdo felt a whip of air
00:47:00.800 pass his head
00:47:01.740 as a bullet
00:47:02.420 flew past.
00:47:04.260 It was close
00:47:05.560 and he knew what that meant.
00:47:09.020 He said
00:47:09.820 that was the moment I realized
00:47:12.020 I have a family.
00:47:14.160 I've got to do
00:47:15.080 what I've got to do
00:47:15.960 to keep them safe
00:47:17.000 and he's done just that.
00:47:20.980 It was a moment
00:47:22.060 that redefined him
00:47:23.440 or at least strengthened
00:47:24.800 a part of him
00:47:25.660 that he had been putting aside
00:47:26.820 for later.
00:47:28.800 Megan left Las Vegas
00:47:29.980 and joined Valdo in New Jersey.
00:47:32.040 Several months after the shooting
00:47:33.240 they got married in a gazebo.
00:47:35.320 They did it in front of a body of water
00:47:37.240 called Bueller's Pond
00:47:38.840 at a park near their home
00:47:40.560 in a procession
00:47:41.900 led by their mayor.
00:47:43.760 They didn't have a reception
00:47:44.740 they just went out for dinner.
00:47:47.120 They didn't have a honeymoon
00:47:48.160 because they thought
00:47:49.480 it was more important
00:47:50.140 to focus on their baby
00:47:51.320 so he would be born healthy
00:47:53.600 to keep him safe
00:47:54.980 like he had kept them safe.
00:47:58.140 A few months later
00:47:59.240 just eight months
00:48:00.800 after the shooting
00:48:01.540 he was born.
00:48:04.440 They both say now
00:48:05.620 that when they hold him
00:48:06.880 they feel the weightlessness
00:48:08.980 of new life.
00:48:11.540 They've become immune
00:48:12.980 to the dark moments
00:48:14.380 they lived.
00:48:17.220 They say they feel hope.
00:48:21.160 The flashes of dark thoughts
00:48:23.040 are still there.
00:48:25.320 Megan says she feels
00:48:26.340 a sudden anxiety
00:48:27.500 when she thinks about
00:48:28.440 her son's first day of school.
00:48:31.260 I don't know.
00:48:32.200 I don't want to hold him back.
00:48:34.760 I want him to have fun
00:48:35.660 but the world
00:48:36.780 is just so different now.
00:48:40.480 Valdo knows that.
00:48:42.080 Like everything
00:48:42.740 they've gone through
00:48:43.520 like all that they've seen
00:48:45.200 and felt
00:48:45.700 and heard
00:48:46.580 all the dangerous moments
00:48:47.880 they barely escaped.
00:48:49.740 It's just a matter of time.
00:48:52.260 The world is different.
00:48:54.620 Yes.
00:48:54.960 But time
00:48:57.280 is not.
00:49:00.140 Who knows
00:49:01.040 what their son
00:49:01.880 will be like
00:49:02.480 when the day arrives
00:49:03.660 for him
00:49:04.180 to walk into
00:49:05.280 the classroom
00:49:06.000 alone.
00:49:08.180 Only time
00:49:09.040 will tell
00:49:09.580 his father says.
00:49:12.100 For now
00:49:13.020 time is fragmented.
00:49:16.460 It's kind of cruel
00:49:17.580 sometimes.
00:49:19.620 Megan and Valdor
00:49:20.360 still painfully aware
00:49:21.980 of their environments
00:49:22.980 everywhere they go.
00:49:24.960 Things you didn't
00:49:25.640 have to think about
00:49:26.260 before.
00:49:26.660 You have to think
00:49:27.060 about now.
00:49:28.180 It's just different.
00:49:30.200 It's different
00:49:30.900 and we're raising him
00:49:31.780 in a different world.
00:49:32.640 It's really scary
00:49:33.620 Megan said.
00:49:35.900 When she gets
00:49:36.740 the feeling
00:49:37.460 that everything
00:49:39.420 is just so much
00:49:40.140 larger than her
00:49:41.060 it's the world.
00:49:44.040 How the world
00:49:44.560 has changed
00:49:45.240 into something
00:49:45.880 explosive
00:49:46.520 and scary.
00:49:48.740 Open spaces
00:49:49.800 bring that feeling
00:49:50.820 on.
00:49:51.260 That lights
00:49:51.820 in your eyes
00:49:52.440 panic.
00:49:52.900 something else
00:49:56.020 happens.
00:49:58.980 They haven't been
00:49:59.920 to a concert
00:50:00.560 since that day.
00:50:03.060 I say even
00:50:03.480 going to the mall
00:50:04.180 is enough
00:50:04.620 of an obstacle.
00:50:05.920 But any time
00:50:06.940 they're swarmed
00:50:07.580 by that feeling
00:50:08.480 it goes away
00:50:10.420 the minute
00:50:10.900 they look
00:50:11.500 at their son
00:50:12.680 or they listen
00:50:15.140 for his tiny
00:50:16.540 sounds.
00:50:17.220 he is the future
00:50:20.660 and they see
00:50:22.280 the future
00:50:22.840 that he will bring.
00:50:26.200 Faldo's now
00:50:26.800 dispatcher
00:50:27.420 for the local
00:50:27.960 police department
00:50:28.660 member of a
00:50:29.540 nearby high school
00:50:30.220 district school board
00:50:31.340 and in both positions
00:50:33.020 he is able to
00:50:34.420 affect change
00:50:35.080 in many ways
00:50:35.780 change that could
00:50:36.600 save his son
00:50:37.380 could save
00:50:38.720 anyone's son
00:50:39.440 from nightmares
00:50:40.660 like his
00:50:41.700 and Megan's
00:50:42.560 because at the
00:50:43.700 heart of it
00:50:44.200 nightmares of that
00:50:45.620 kind
00:50:46.000 are nightmares
00:50:47.140 that we all
00:50:47.780 feel
00:50:48.160 they're all
00:50:50.000 of ours
00:50:50.520 851 injuries
00:50:53.520 59 deaths
00:50:55.460 we see the numbers
00:50:58.140 we see the
00:50:58.920 frantic cell phone
00:50:59.880 footage
00:51:00.420 and it's all
00:51:02.240 too easy
00:51:02.760 to succumb
00:51:03.600 into that
00:51:04.160 debilitating
00:51:05.520 feeling
00:51:06.440 like Megan
00:51:07.700 and Faldo
00:51:08.440 have
00:51:08.840 but just look
00:51:10.380 for the tiniest
00:51:11.120 things
00:51:11.620 look for the
00:51:13.340 tiniest
00:51:13.940 sounds
00:51:14.740 look for the
00:51:16.540 stories
00:51:17.100 like theirs
00:51:18.260 listen for hope
00:51:20.060 because it is
00:51:22.240 there
00:51:22.640 much more
00:51:25.880 than we even
00:51:27.100 realize
00:51:27.740 the blaze
00:51:32.180 radio network
00:51:33.220 on demand