The Glenn Beck Program - October 10, 2018


Best of the Program with Ed Stetzer | 10⧸10⧸18


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

163.70557

Word Count

8,732

Sentence Count

804

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Glenn and Stu discuss the latest in the scandal surrounding Supreme Court nominee Brett KAVANAUGH. They also discuss Hillary Clinton's return to the stage, and why she should have been impeached in the first place.


Transcript

00:00:00.260 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand.
00:00:05.980 Hey, welcome to the podcast. It's Glenn and, uh, what's your name again?
00:00:09.680 Uh, Bill. Okay. Or Stu.
00:00:11.580 Bill or Stu. Doesn't matter. Stu's not your real name either.
00:00:14.100 Yeah, that's true.
00:00:14.540 So I'm going to start calling you Bill.
00:00:16.120 Anyway, uh, we've got a great, uh, great podcast for you today.
00:00:19.500 Had a little bit of an issue, uh, with Glenn, I would say, attacking a caller.
00:00:25.400 It's almost like a mob. I was almost as bad as Kavanaugh.
00:00:29.480 Yeah. No, it's interesting because we did talk about, uh, Kavanaugh, the media, you know, saying that, uh, this is not a mob.
00:00:35.500 They're just banging on the walls of the Supreme Court, but no mob.
00:00:37.980 They're just surrounding people like Ted Cruz and, and, and, and, uh, forcing them to get out of a restaurant.
00:00:42.760 But that's no big deal.
00:00:43.860 Yeah, and we had a caller who seemed to be saying, is it time for us to do something drastic, maybe violent?
00:00:50.380 Yeah.
00:00:50.720 Uh, and you, you reacted negatively to that, uh, impulse.
00:00:55.500 Uh, and explain yourself afterwards.
00:00:57.520 I reacted. I chose poorly.
00:00:58.280 Um, I don't know. I thought you joked pretty well. I liked you yelling at him.
00:01:01.040 But, uh, after that, uh, you explained it in depth and we went through that and how that's worked out in history before.
00:01:06.700 Yeah.
00:01:06.900 Uh, and we can, you know, we remember, too, like, a little, every once in a while, I think we forget that we're doing fairly well right now.
00:01:13.720 We're winning. We're winning.
00:01:15.500 They're not reacting this way because we're losing and they're winning.
00:01:19.540 Their back is against the wall.
00:01:21.160 So we go into the details on that.
00:01:22.520 And I will say, uh, more importantly, at the end of the show, Glenn discusses some new Star Wars virtual reality thing that, like, it's now the only thing I'm thinking about.
00:01:33.040 It's game-changing.
00:01:34.040 It's absolutely game-changing.
00:01:35.660 It's at the end of the podcast.
00:01:37.020 Yeah.
00:01:37.280 So, check it out.
00:01:38.140 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:51.580 It's Wednesday, October 10th.
00:01:54.200 Glenn Beck.
00:01:56.020 Well, good news.
00:01:57.300 Hillary Clinton is back again.
00:01:59.260 Kind of like herpes.
00:02:00.760 You just can't, no matter what you take, you just can't shake it.
00:02:04.500 Now, was that, was that unkind?
00:02:07.260 No, this is due.
00:02:08.400 This is an interesting comparison.
00:02:09.880 Well, it just won't ever seem to go away, will it?
00:02:13.420 She's there to remind us that she is relevant and her husband, a Democrat, is not a rapist.
00:02:20.140 Definitely not a rapist.
00:02:21.700 So we shouldn't listen to the dozen or so women who have accused him of sexual assault over the past few decades.
00:02:29.000 Instead, we should focus on the evil Republicans and their plot to fill the Supreme Court with sexual predators.
00:02:35.720 Also, she's going on tour and wants everybody to know that $700 a ticket, totally worth it.
00:02:44.420 Here she is talking about her tour in an interview with the very fair and balanced Christiane Anambour.
00:02:52.060 You say that you're going to talk about the difficulties that your husband went through, that you went through.
00:02:56.340 Obviously, you're going to be prepared to have questions about that moment in 1998, the impeachment, the allegations of sexual harassment against your own husband.
00:03:05.900 Are you prepared to answer those questions?
00:03:07.980 Is he prepared to answer them?
00:03:09.520 And how do you see that similar or different from what President Trump is being accused of and Kavanaugh and others today?
00:03:16.600 Well, there's a very significant difference, and that is the intense, long-lasting, partisan investigation that was conducted in the 90s.
00:03:31.000 If, you know, the Republicans, starting with President Trump on down, want a comparison, they should welcome such an investigation themselves.
00:03:40.540 I do. I welcome the comparison. The investigation, I don't need to welcome it. It's already happening.
00:03:48.560 They've been, there's been a partisan investigation on Donald Trump since before he was elected.
00:03:55.840 Now, one woman who hasn't remained quiet about Bill Clinton's bad behavior and the hypocrisy of the left is Juanita Broderick.
00:04:06.080 You know, the woman who said, Bill Clinton raped me.
00:04:11.420 She says, I have 20 times more evidence for my rape by Bill Clinton than Dr. Ford has against Kavanaugh.
00:04:18.580 Democrats all turn their backs on me.
00:04:21.140 All women are believed as long as they're not conservative, as long as the assault was not done by Democrats, end quote.
00:04:29.640 Here she is in a recent interview with Laura Ingram when asked what she thought about the Democrats' circus-like handling of Kavanaugh's confirmation.
00:04:37.320 It makes me go back to 1999 when Dianne Feinstein, along with every other Democrat, refused to read my deposition to the Independent Council.
00:04:51.340 They wouldn't have nothing to do with it.
00:04:53.300 That just shows you the difference in the double standard that existed back then and still does today.
00:05:01.740 I think it's, I think this is astonishing that they can do this to Mr. Kavanaugh.
00:05:08.940 Astonishing certainly is the word.
00:05:11.020 It's astonishing that someone could survive with such cognitive dissidence, isn't it?
00:05:16.540 She complains Democrats should be tougher and fight harder, but she clams up and starts speaking full-blown legalese when someone asks,
00:05:25.540 how can you go on huge rants about sexual predators when your husband is widely considered to be a sexual predator and has a very credible charge of rape?
00:05:35.920 Of course, she responds by hardening her face into that stony grin.
00:05:43.220 Hillary Clinton, certainly astonishing.
00:05:50.940 It's Wednesday, October 10th.
00:05:53.920 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:05:56.320 You know the nice thing, though, about Hillary Clinton?
00:05:58.380 Everybody knows she's lying.
00:06:00.420 You know what I mean?
00:06:01.480 Nobody buys her act anymore.
00:06:04.300 No.
00:06:04.600 Which is really nice.
00:06:06.780 It's really, well, CNN, Christiana Anandpour, she still buys into it.
00:06:11.480 Yeah, I don't know that I would really make that distinction.
00:06:15.780 I don't know who cares what she thinks.
00:06:19.620 Really, either of them.
00:06:20.580 I mean, it's two voices that I almost can't hear.
00:06:25.020 I care so little about what they say.
00:06:26.660 It's almost like they're cutting woods in a forest.
00:06:30.560 Trees are falling and nobody's hearing it.
00:06:32.360 And I'm in the middle of a city, many, many hundreds of miles away.
00:06:36.520 I cannot hear the trees falling.
00:06:38.580 I'm trying to remember.
00:06:39.460 I watched something that was so outrageous last night.
00:06:42.840 I don't know what was it.
00:06:43.840 And I thought to myself, wow.
00:06:45.220 I'm really not outraged.
00:06:47.480 I don't care.
00:06:48.840 It's hard.
00:06:49.300 I just don't care.
00:06:52.040 It's hard.
00:06:52.840 I mean, there's a lot of stuff today.
00:06:54.520 I mean, the things that the people that are trying to cover this election and the Kavanaugh thing are actually saying, I mean, they're incredible.
00:07:05.300 It's as if they don't care what the words they're saying mean.
00:07:09.300 No.
00:07:09.820 Well, for instance, let's use this because we're changing definitions of words.
00:07:15.540 Here is Brooke Baldwin on CNN.
00:07:20.940 They're talking about how we've got to be careful because people are going to be hurt because we're seeing mobs start to form.
00:07:32.420 Here it is.
00:07:33.100 I believe it's the overreaction of the left.
00:07:35.500 When you see people like Ted Cruz getting chased out of restaurants by a mob.
00:07:39.980 Oh, you're not going to use the mob word here.
00:07:42.900 It's totally a mob.
00:07:44.160 It is without a doubt.
00:07:45.680 There's no other word for it.
00:07:47.680 It's a.
00:07:48.120 Go watch.
00:07:48.920 Put up a mob.
00:07:50.060 Stop.
00:07:50.560 Stop.
00:07:51.360 A mob is what we saw in Charlottesville, Virginia, two Augusts ago.
00:07:56.800 No.
00:07:57.460 A mob is not what we saw chasing.
00:08:00.560 I'm not saying what they did was right.
00:08:01.900 What about the people who were at the Supreme Court banging on the walls?
00:08:07.000 What do you call that?
00:08:08.680 Civil protest?
00:08:10.060 Or is that a mob?
00:08:10.840 I think it's easily a mob.
00:08:12.900 Yeah.
00:08:13.260 And if it were tea partiers, we'd call it a mob for sure.
00:08:15.440 Come on.
00:08:15.880 Let's be serious.
00:08:16.760 Come on.
00:08:17.640 I mean, because I saw lots of tea partiers going to the Supreme Court and banging on the
00:08:22.480 walls.
00:08:23.400 And by the way, I have plenty of Supreme Court decisions that make me want to bang on the
00:08:26.740 walls of the Supreme Court.
00:08:27.560 Right.
00:08:27.880 But we don't do those things because we're supposed to be in a civil society.
00:08:31.800 Right.
00:08:32.400 I'm trying to remember.
00:08:33.520 I'm trying to remember all of the people, the tea partiers chased down with their children,
00:08:37.960 you know, and the homemade signs.
00:08:40.180 How many people they chased down in restaurants and surrounded?
00:08:43.920 I cannot think of one example.
00:08:45.840 In fact, if you want an example of this, what did Nancy Pelosi do during the health care
00:08:52.040 bill?
00:08:52.880 She and, uh, was it John Lewis marched out into the crowd, into the crowd, trying to get
00:09:05.280 them to do that.
00:09:06.200 And they wouldn't.
00:09:07.700 Do you remember?
00:09:08.820 Yeah.
00:09:09.440 They tried to get them to be violent.
00:09:12.140 They said all kinds of crazy things, throw gasoline all over them.
00:09:16.940 And then they linked arms and marched bravely through that crowd when they didn't have to.
00:09:23.580 They were trying to get the Tea Party to become a violent mob.
00:09:30.160 They didn't.
00:09:31.500 Can you imagine what would have happened if Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh would have
00:09:37.700 linked arms and tried to walk through the crowd in Washington, D.C.?
00:09:43.640 It would not have been pretty.
00:09:44.540 It would not have been pretty.
00:09:45.880 And by the way, I mean, you know, you can talk about some of these things.
00:09:49.380 I mean, Antifa, that's not a mob.
00:09:51.680 They're like torching cities and they're taking over the FBI institutions.
00:09:56.740 That's a riot.
00:09:57.980 That is a riot by a mob.
00:10:00.620 Yeah.
00:10:00.740 Could you define mob?
00:10:01.800 Please look it up in the dictionary.
00:10:03.120 Find out.
00:10:03.700 Let's, let's make sure we know what we're talking about.
00:10:07.760 Mob.
00:10:08.480 Mob.
00:10:08.800 A large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble
00:10:15.280 or violence.
00:10:17.020 Okay.
00:10:17.620 And the, and the quote is a mob of protesters.
00:10:20.780 Oh, that's their, that's their usage.
00:10:22.160 So is this not a disorderly crowd of people that are trying to, what would you say?
00:10:31.080 Intent on causing trouble.
00:10:32.460 Intent on causing trouble.
00:10:34.420 Yeah.
00:10:34.580 I mean, I guess if you think, well, Brett Kavanaugh is a terrible person and stopping him is good.
00:10:39.960 So that's not causing trouble.
00:10:41.520 I mean, if you're going to go down that road, I guess you can, again, that doesn't, does
00:10:45.000 it say there unless you're right?
00:10:47.400 It just says intent on causing trouble or violence.
00:10:49.600 It doesn't say, you know, uh, with an exception of those who are absolutely right.
00:10:54.700 What I'm saying though, is that the media does not see harassing conservatives as causing
00:11:01.160 trouble.
00:11:01.700 Correct.
00:11:02.280 That is the issue.
00:11:03.080 Correct.
00:11:03.440 They see this as a, correct.
00:11:04.800 They see this as like that, you know, they're, it's basically, you know, charity work, right?
00:11:09.500 I mean, they're, they're doing good for the people.
00:11:12.660 You're stopping these evil, uh, old white people who have names like Cruz, uh, that, you
00:11:18.760 know.
00:11:20.500 Thanks.
00:11:21.100 Thanks, Beto.
00:11:21.900 Yeah, I know.
00:11:22.880 I mean, but that is what they see.
00:11:24.040 The Irish guy.
00:11:24.740 The Irish guy.
00:11:25.840 Robert Francis O'Rourke.
00:11:28.020 Let me tell you, these white people, these old white people will do ya.
00:11:32.860 I mean, really, Beto?
00:11:36.520 Really?
00:11:37.680 Okay.
00:11:38.460 So let's listen to a couple of things.
00:11:41.060 First, we have CNN.
00:11:42.980 We just played.
00:11:44.060 Oh, you're not going to call it a mob.
00:11:46.100 Yes, I'm going to call it a mob.
00:11:49.220 Uh, now here's Maxine Waters trying to say, we're trying to redefine protest as mob rule.
00:11:56.100 Here it is.
00:11:56.860 Protest is guaranteed to a democratic society.
00:12:00.000 Yes, it is.
00:12:00.560 We know that this is guaranteed to us, uh, by the constitution.
00:12:04.380 Yes, it is.
00:12:05.280 They're trying, uh, to change the description of protest and call it a mob.
00:12:10.760 Well, this president is the poster boy, uh, for what a mob, uh, protester looks like.
00:12:18.300 He is, as a matter of fact, he's the one who has been violent in his speech.
00:12:23.740 He's the one in his rallies that said things like this.
00:12:26.400 I'd like to punch him in the face.
00:12:28.780 Trump said that at one of his rallies.
00:12:30.620 He said, knock the crap out of them.
00:12:32.940 Uh, would you?
00:12:34.040 And seriously, okay.
00:12:35.260 Just knock the hell.
00:12:36.600 I mean, I promise.
00:12:37.760 Okay, all right.
00:12:37.780 Okay, we got it.
00:12:38.500 Now, that's what she's saying.
00:12:39.800 She's saying that Donald Trump is the one who's violent in their speech.
00:12:43.160 Uh, let's go to Jennifer Epps Addison.
00:12:46.060 Uh, Addison.
00:12:47.180 She's the network president and co-executive director at the Center for Popular Democracy.
00:12:53.360 Here's what she's saying to the crowds.
00:12:57.440 Lawmakers and leftists, continue to push.
00:13:00.700 Protest is guaranteed to...
00:13:03.060 Sorry, sorry, sir.
00:13:04.460 A few women in an airport were getting up in their face, and they thought that us calmly
00:13:09.480 saying, listen to survivors, was enough to shake and intimidate them.
00:13:13.720 Well, wait till they go home.
00:13:15.500 Wait till they go to the state fair.
00:13:17.520 Wait till they go to the coffee shop.
00:13:19.440 Wait till they go to the movies.
00:13:21.440 Wait till they go anywhere we see them.
00:13:24.440 Wait till they go anywhere we see them.
00:13:27.680 Now, here's the problem.
00:13:29.480 Um, let's ratchet things down just a bit and listen to somebody who says,
00:13:35.860 hmm, I think there's real trouble on the way and has reason to say that.
00:13:40.340 Here's Rand Paul.
00:13:42.920 When people like Cory Booker say, get up in their face, he may think that that's okay.
00:13:48.020 But what he doesn't realize is that for about every thousand person that might want to get
00:13:52.060 up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence.
00:13:55.480 When I was at the ball field and Steve Scalise was nearly killed,
00:13:58.940 the guy shooting up the ball field and shooting, I think five or six people were shot.
00:14:04.200 Steve Scalise was almost killed.
00:14:05.260 He was yelling, this is for health care.
00:14:07.100 He had a list in his pocket of conservative Republicans that he wanted to kill.
00:14:11.060 You know, when I was attacked in my yard and had six of my ribs broken, pneumonia,
00:14:17.020 lung contusion, all of that.
00:14:18.520 These are people that are unstable.
00:14:20.200 We don't want to encourage them.
00:14:21.540 We have to somehow ratchet it down and say,
00:14:23.560 we're not encouraging that violence is ever okay, ever a reason for or a means for trying
00:14:29.880 to resolve things.
00:14:31.220 I feel that there's going to be an assassination.
00:14:33.520 I really worry that someone is going to be killed and that those who are ratcheting up
00:14:39.160 the conversation, those who are ratcheting up saying, get in their face, they have to
00:14:43.620 realize that they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence.
00:14:46.940 So do you remember the time when people like Brooke Baldwin and CNN were lecturing us that
00:14:53.960 you couldn't say you're going to target a district because that, of course, led to violence.
00:15:02.080 Couldn't target a district.
00:15:04.120 Remember the lectures of your words have power because you don't know who's listening to them.
00:15:10.260 And we said, unless you're endorsing this, we are calling for peaceful rallies.
00:15:16.940 And they were.
00:15:18.820 And they were.
00:15:22.140 These are not peaceful.
00:15:24.040 How many people were arrested from the Tea Party?
00:15:28.000 Riots.
00:15:30.040 Mobs.
00:15:31.360 How many?
00:15:33.460 I don't remember any.
00:15:36.000 There's 400 just last weekend on the left.
00:15:39.580 400.
00:15:40.380 That's disorderly.
00:15:42.020 That's not a peaceful protest.
00:15:44.780 Your words do have power.
00:15:46.940 Because you do mean violence.
00:15:51.660 Now, how can Glenn Beck even say that?
00:15:56.820 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:16:05.280 Let me go to Dan in Georgia.
00:16:07.140 Hello, Dan.
00:16:07.840 You're on the Glenn Beck program.
00:16:09.460 Hey.
00:16:09.960 Hey, Glenn.
00:16:10.540 How you doing this morning?
00:16:11.380 Hey, Stu.
00:16:12.020 Hey.
00:16:12.220 I want to ask you a serious question.
00:16:16.980 All right.
00:16:18.640 When is it our turn?
00:16:21.400 When is it our turn for what?
00:16:24.180 Fight back.
00:16:25.740 When is it our turn to take back the Capitol?
00:16:28.740 In what way?
00:16:29.420 In what way are you talking about?
00:16:30.760 You've got to get a couple, a few weeks.
00:16:32.400 You can go vote and get that taken care of.
00:16:34.860 I intend to vote.
00:16:36.820 Yeah, so do I.
00:16:37.640 Since 2009 and 2010 when I told my wife that there will be blood in the streets.
00:16:43.880 Uh-huh.
00:16:44.400 So what is your question?
00:16:46.340 Define when is it our turn.
00:16:48.040 Tell me what you mean by that.
00:16:49.160 When are we going to be allowed to protect ourselves, protect our representatives, protect our streets, protect our businesses, protect the innocent?
00:16:59.640 Okay.
00:16:59.900 Well, you are allowed to protect yourself.
00:17:03.400 If your life is in danger and you are under threat, you do have a right to protect yourself.
00:17:11.460 Right.
00:17:11.740 That's a natural law.
00:17:13.760 That's a natural law.
00:17:14.520 That's a natural right.
00:17:15.800 You have that.
00:17:16.440 If you're talking about when are we going to grab guns and go kill people, you can count me out in that.
00:17:22.840 Yeah, never a clock on that one for me.
00:17:24.540 Yeah, you can count me out on that.
00:17:26.180 Now, if—
00:17:26.880 I'm not asking you for guns.
00:17:29.100 What are you asking for?
00:17:29.980 Did you always disconnect me?
00:17:30.880 No.
00:17:31.180 Oh, okay.
00:17:31.520 What are you asking for?
00:17:32.560 When it—
00:17:33.600 Well, you keep saying, do not, do not push back.
00:17:37.220 Do not give them what they want.
00:17:37.980 No, I do not say that.
00:17:40.860 I do not say don't—
00:17:41.880 Do you always say—
00:17:42.320 No, sir.
00:17:42.940 No, sir.
00:17:43.980 Do not—
00:17:44.700 You're telling us all the time to not fall for the trick.
00:17:48.760 Don't let them win.
00:17:51.100 Don't let them don't, you know, that this is what they want.
00:17:54.980 They want you to get angry.
00:17:56.220 Don't become them.
00:17:57.300 Yes.
00:17:58.000 Exactly.
00:17:58.260 Don't become what you despise.
00:18:00.700 Do you want to become them?
00:18:02.640 You want to become them.
00:18:03.560 No, but I want to protect my children.
00:18:05.940 I want to protect my streets.
00:18:06.120 So do I.
00:18:06.740 I want to protect my streets.
00:18:07.640 So do I.
00:18:08.480 Okay, so—
00:18:09.080 I don't have $6 million in security guards.
00:18:12.440 So how do I do it?
00:18:13.700 When do we—
00:18:15.120 What is your—
00:18:15.900 Tell me, sir, what your threat level is right now.
00:18:19.100 Tell me what your threat level is right now.
00:18:24.140 Well, if I wear a shirt that says stand for the flag, and I wear it to Kroger, and I get
00:18:29.600 dirty looks from two dudes much bigger than me.
00:18:31.300 Oh, my gosh.
00:18:32.000 Dirty looks.
00:18:32.640 Wow.
00:18:32.960 It was really high.
00:18:33.660 Not dirty looks.
00:18:35.480 We all have a right to protect ourselves against dirty looks.
00:18:38.200 Right.
00:18:40.080 So you guys make a joke out of it.
00:18:41.460 No, sir.
00:18:41.940 I'm not making a joke of it.
00:18:43.460 You are—
00:18:44.400 You are.
00:18:45.260 No, I'm not.
00:18:46.340 You are obviously ready to fight right now.
00:18:51.700 I am.
00:18:52.580 I feel that it's getting to a point where we have to fight because the way that this is going—
00:18:59.380 How do you want to fight?
00:19:00.040 The level at which it's ramping up—
00:19:01.460 How do you want to fight?
00:19:02.800 How do you want to fight?
00:19:03.460 I don't know.
00:19:04.480 We saw something.
00:19:04.940 We saw something.
00:19:05.200 You do.
00:19:05.660 You do.
00:19:06.140 You just won't say it on national radio.
00:19:08.080 How do you want to fight?
00:19:08.800 No, I'll say it.
00:19:09.520 I don't—
00:19:09.900 Go ahead, then.
00:19:10.680 Say it.
00:19:11.000 I don't care on national YouTube.
00:19:12.220 I don't care about—
00:19:13.680 Go ahead, then.
00:19:14.420 Say it, man.
00:19:16.700 Fire with fire.
00:19:18.180 They're in our face.
00:19:19.160 We get up and get back in their face.
00:19:21.040 They threaten us at a dinner table.
00:19:22.980 We protect our dinner table.
00:19:25.260 I mean, can we hose them down with pepper spray and mace, or are we going to go to jail and
00:19:30.020 be called certain names?
00:19:31.620 I mean, at what point are we allowed to defend ourselves?
00:19:35.840 You are allowed to defend yourself today if you are under threat and you feel that your
00:19:45.940 family and you are in an actual unsafe condition—not a college, I feel unsafe—but an actual threat.
00:19:56.200 If Ted Cruz stood up and took a protester down, would he have been allowed to have done that?
00:20:05.980 I don't mean down like that.
00:20:07.320 I mean, you know, if he thought—would he have been in his right to defend his family
00:20:13.100 and his circle from further escalation of violence?
00:20:16.060 He would have been foolish to do it.
00:20:19.200 Escalating violence is not a defense against further escalation of violence.
00:20:22.480 That's just going to make it worse.
00:20:23.600 I mean, what Ted Cruz did was win, right?
00:20:25.680 Did you tell me Ted Cruz lost that?
00:20:27.280 Did we lose the Kavanaugh thing?
00:20:28.560 We didn't come out in the streets and scream and beat the crap out of people with Kavanaugh.
00:20:33.060 Is he in the Supreme Court?
00:20:34.260 We would have lost the Kavanaugh case.
00:20:35.860 Yeah, you would have lost it.
00:20:36.680 You would have lost it.
00:20:37.320 You certainly would have lost Jeff Flake.
00:20:39.060 He was dying to vote no.
00:20:40.900 But we didn't give him the opportunity.
00:20:43.000 You went through and handled the situation right, and now Kavanaugh's on the Supreme Court.
00:20:46.360 It was handled well.
00:20:48.660 And what's the next level they're going to go to now since they lost?
00:20:51.200 I don't know.
00:20:51.880 We'll have to wait and see.
00:20:53.380 You seem to want to predict it and act on it now.
00:20:56.180 Yeah, and I'm not with you on that.
00:20:59.060 Believe me, I will protect my family without my security guards.
00:21:04.640 I'm sorry.
00:21:05.580 My threats are a little bit more than getting dirty looks in the grocery store.
00:21:09.860 Well, were there two dudes at Kroger, though?
00:21:11.060 Have you ever had that situation?
00:21:11.720 No, I've never had two dudes at Kroger look at my shirt.
00:21:14.160 So I am sorry that you don't have my security.
00:21:21.460 I am sorry that my family has to go through the threats.
00:21:25.100 I just wrote to a friend.
00:21:26.500 I just wrote to a friend this morning who said, hey, I want to come and stay with you guys
00:21:31.800 or, you know, just hang out with you guys over the weekend, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:34.200 I said, my wife doesn't do that anymore.
00:21:36.200 I've been trying to get my wife to put her guard down.
00:21:44.900 We don't have people over at our house anymore.
00:21:46.900 We don't have anyone over at our house anymore.
00:21:50.280 We don't do things like that because our life has been so unbelievably chaotic.
00:21:57.680 And yes, a little more than Kroger.
00:21:59.980 I am not mocking you for what you have to go through.
00:22:03.820 I would just like to remind you that Martin Luther King went through a lot more.
00:22:12.920 Abraham Lincoln went through a lot more.
00:22:17.280 Abraham Lincoln, if you don't think Abraham Lincoln, as a man, wanted to make the South pay,
00:22:26.120 if you don't think he did, you don't know history.
00:22:29.160 If you think that our greatest founding fathers said exactly the same thing.
00:22:40.520 We do not want war.
00:22:43.460 We do not want bloodshed.
00:22:46.960 Take it.
00:22:47.900 Take it.
00:22:48.720 Take it.
00:22:49.300 Until they couldn't take it anymore.
00:22:51.680 And they then wrote the Declaration of Independence, which did not lead with why they were so mad.
00:22:59.520 Instead, they wrote a plea.
00:23:02.860 This is who we are and will stand.
00:23:07.980 You just seem to want to fight.
00:23:10.800 I am not with you.
00:23:13.380 I look to win.
00:23:15.860 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:23:43.760 I want you to understand that you are on a path to victory right now.
00:23:50.940 You are on a path to victory.
00:23:54.520 If you are angry this morning, I understand.
00:23:57.720 I understand because you're watching television or you're reading things on social media and you're like,
00:24:02.340 I can't believe these people are calling for mobs or riots and the media is excusing them.
00:24:10.440 And is the media winning?
00:24:15.520 The media is only winning because we're allowing them into our life to win.
00:24:19.560 They're meaningless.
00:24:21.360 The media is not winning.
00:24:23.700 You are.
00:24:25.340 Think of this.
00:24:26.720 You got the most unelectable man in American history elected.
00:24:32.340 You got a guy that everyone said cannot do it.
00:24:36.540 The ultimate outsider doesn't play politics, doesn't play game, doesn't do anything that anyone would say you should do that.
00:24:46.100 You got him elected.
00:24:48.780 Then what did he do?
00:24:51.160 Started doing the things he said he would do.
00:24:53.820 What the hell is that?
00:24:55.040 I've never seen that from a politician.
00:24:56.600 You're winning.
00:25:02.140 Do you think the left has become unhinged because they think you're on the ropes?
00:25:09.520 Do you think the left has just signed on to democratic socialism, a radical un-American idea?
00:25:23.280 Do you think that they're excusing Antifa because they think we're about to win?
00:25:32.420 This is the last gasp in death throes.
00:25:39.000 Backed into a corner, no place to go.
00:25:41.400 What do you do?
00:25:42.660 You just start throwing punches.
00:25:45.020 You're not in the corner.
00:25:46.260 They're in the corner.
00:25:47.300 Why are you acting like you're in the corner?
00:25:48.860 Why are you acting like you're in the corner?
00:25:53.280 They are trying to get you to feel like you're in the corner.
00:25:58.380 You're not.
00:26:00.740 They're not protesting because you're weak.
00:26:04.320 They're protesting because you're strong.
00:26:08.420 People who say, I don't want to talk to the Democrats.
00:26:10.400 You can't talk to the Democrats.
00:26:11.520 Really?
00:26:12.440 Really?
00:26:13.540 I'm not talking about the politicians.
00:26:15.400 I'm not talking about the crazy Antifa people on the edges.
00:26:18.320 I'm talking about your neighbor.
00:26:19.660 Now, a lot of people can't.
00:26:22.660 I get that.
00:26:23.400 I can't talk to a lot of people.
00:26:24.960 I get it.
00:26:25.680 I do get it.
00:26:27.200 But let's not forget 20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump voted for Barack Obama.
00:26:37.740 Where do they come from?
00:26:40.140 We don't want to talk to people who voted for Barack Obama?
00:26:42.920 Really?
00:26:43.300 Because 20%.
00:26:44.660 Now, you're not hearing that on TV because the Democrats and the media don't want you to know
00:26:51.360 that they're 20% responsible for this monster.
00:26:57.940 You're winning.
00:27:00.360 African-American unemployment is the lowest in history.
00:27:04.600 Our current unemployment rate overall is the lowest since the 1960s.
00:27:13.280 You're winning.
00:27:16.820 You have a conservative court.
00:27:19.480 And if things continue this way, if we go out and vote, guess what?
00:27:25.560 You might have two other court appointments.
00:27:30.420 Why do you think they'll be mad about that?
00:27:32.620 Because you're winning.
00:27:38.960 Let's remember that and keep that into perspective when we call for violence.
00:27:45.220 Now, why?
00:27:46.880 Why punch down?
00:27:48.640 We have a bigger vision for America.
00:27:51.380 And it's happening.
00:27:53.260 Why punch down?
00:27:54.920 It's irrelevant.
00:27:55.580 It's irrelevant.
00:27:55.660 It's easy to get mad.
00:28:05.020 It's easy to get mad, especially in today's world.
00:28:07.720 It used to be that we had to be mad about something that was real.
00:28:11.260 Now, Americans are just mad because, oh my gosh, did you hear they use the M word?
00:28:14.920 I actually had to click on the story because I didn't know what the M word was.
00:28:18.340 The headline was, CNN host goes crazy because guest uses M word.
00:28:25.180 What the hell is the M word?
00:28:26.960 Mob.
00:28:28.000 Mob.
00:28:28.960 Don't use that word now.
00:28:30.820 Can't call Antifa or what's happening at the steps of the Supreme Court a mob.
00:28:34.700 No, no, no.
00:28:35.760 400 arrests?
00:28:36.560 Yes, that's not a mob.
00:28:40.580 So it's easy to get angry.
00:28:44.000 But when you are angry, that is when character comes out.
00:28:50.780 That's when people see who you really are.
00:28:53.640 And if people are looking for a home because I'm not comfortable with socialism, I'm not
00:28:59.420 comfortable with people who are saying I don't like capitalism, I'm not comfortable
00:29:03.560 with people who are calling for mobs and calling for riots and surrounding people in
00:29:08.100 restaurants, I'm not comfortable.
00:29:09.620 I can't vote for them.
00:29:11.220 Who do I vote with?
00:29:12.420 Where do I go?
00:29:13.560 If the other side is saying, kill them, get them, punch back, they're not going to go
00:29:18.140 to you either.
00:29:18.860 Remember, April 4th, 1968, on the back of a flatbed pickup truck, in the heart of the
00:29:27.700 worst part of town, the ghetto in Indianapolis, in front of an almost entirely black crowd
00:29:35.160 before social media, Martin Luther King is shot, RFK is on the way to speak, everyone,
00:29:44.440 the sheriff, everyone says, you can't go there.
00:29:46.200 You're a white man in a black crowd.
00:29:48.140 They will kill you.
00:29:50.860 He said, no, they won't.
00:29:54.180 No handler, no cell phones, no writers, nothing.
00:29:59.360 He takes a little piece of paper and he jots down a few notes and he gets up to break the
00:30:05.380 news to this black crowd that Martin Luther King had just been shot.
00:30:13.700 I want you to listen to his message because his message is exactly the message that I would
00:30:21.980 love to hear from people today.
00:30:24.680 Listen.
00:30:25.160 In this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation
00:30:32.140 we are and what direction we want to move in.
00:30:36.020 For those of you who are black, considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people
00:30:45.500 who were responsible, you can be filled with bitterness and with hatred and a desire for revenge.
00:30:55.660 We can move in that direction as a country in greater polarization, black people amongst blacks and white amongst whites filled with hatred toward one another.
00:31:11.260 Or we can make an effort as Martin Luther King did to understand and to comprehend and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land with an effort to understand, compassion and love.
00:31:35.380 For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart
00:31:57.380 the same kind of feeling, the same kind of feeling, I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man, but we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.
00:32:17.380 A favorite poem, my favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus, he once wrote,
00:32:24.380 He once wrote,
00:32:30.380 Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget, falls drop by drop upon the heart, until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom, through the awful grace of God.
00:32:46.380 What we need in the United States is not division, what we need in the United States is not hatred, what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.
00:33:04.380 Feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
00:33:14.380 One of the greatest speeches given by any man in the United States, RFK.
00:33:25.380 Martin Luther King had won already. He had won.
00:33:34.380 If a politician would have gotten up on the back of a pickup truck and said what politicians are saying today,
00:33:42.380 get them, Martin Luther King's life would have been wasted, because nobody would have wanted to be a part of that.
00:34:00.380 And they would have identified, people would have looked at that and said, yeah, it's justified, but I don't want to be a part of that.
00:34:10.380 You're winning.
00:34:15.380 Stay the course.
00:34:18.380 Do not play into the game of those who are in their death throes.
00:34:25.380 They're eating their own.
00:34:28.380 Don't be fooled.
00:34:31.380 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:34:48.380 I want to thank Ed Stetzer. He is he's a guy that we had booked last hour and I kind of went in a different direction.
00:34:57.380 But it fits right in to what we have been talking about today.
00:35:01.380 I had a caller about an hour and a half ago who said that, you know, when is it time that we're going to fight back?
00:35:08.380 And we should fight back. We should fight back at the polls.
00:35:12.380 We should stand true and steady.
00:35:15.380 We have to speak truth.
00:35:17.380 Do not forget the things that we were all taught and we all know are true.
00:35:23.380 To be civil and kind to one another.
00:35:26.380 But we were not in a place where I think you grab a gun.
00:35:34.380 I won't.
00:35:37.380 Christians in the age of outrage.
00:35:40.380 How to bring our best when the world is at its worst.
00:35:44.380 Ed Stetzer just wrote that book.
00:35:46.380 Welcome to the program, Ed.
00:35:47.380 How are you?
00:35:48.380 Thank you.
00:35:49.380 Thanks for having me.
00:35:50.380 And I think we both wrote books on outrage.
00:35:51.380 So it's kind of a nice timing to talk about outrage.
00:35:53.380 We did.
00:35:54.380 And have you found, Ed, that it's not necessarily an understood topic or a popular topic right now to try to defuse it or explain what it does to us?
00:36:05.380 You know, it's interesting.
00:36:06.380 I see the word used more than I've ever seen it before in my lifetime.
00:36:09.380 And, you know, rage and outrage in headlines of articles all the time.
00:36:12.380 But it's when you go a little deeper.
00:36:14.380 And in your case, talking about his relationship to addiction or in my case, talking about how Christians might engage the age of outrage.
00:36:20.380 I don't think I think there's a lot of references to it, but not a lot of, OK, what do we do?
00:36:26.380 And correct.
00:36:27.380 I think, you know, Dan from Georgia, who fascinating, fascinating call.
00:36:30.380 And as you kind of walk through that with him, he's clearly outraged.
00:36:33.380 His response would be very different than yours.
00:36:36.380 And I appreciate how you responded and mine.
00:36:38.380 And I think ultimately part of the challenges is Dan's response is I mean, Dan just said, I'll just say it.
00:36:44.380 I'll just say it.
00:36:45.380 You know, Dan's response is the way a lot of people feel right now.
00:36:47.380 They are.
00:36:48.380 There's a lot of built up outrage that is.
00:36:50.380 That is.
00:36:51.380 And it's, you know, both on the conservative and liberal side.
00:36:54.380 And it's in many ways tearing our country apart from my concern as a Christian leader.
00:36:58.380 You know, I'm here at the Billy Graham Center.
00:37:00.380 My concern is, is as Christians, how are we going to engage in a world filled with outrage?
00:37:06.380 And when sometimes we're the we're the cause of it, sometimes we're the targets of it.
00:37:10.380 It's it's a mix.
00:37:11.380 And I love your comments about religious liberty, too.
00:37:13.380 I mean, I'm I'm deeply concerned about religious liberty around the world.
00:37:18.380 Thankful for you bringing that up, bringing that case up even today.
00:37:21.380 But but but again, I see Christians who are outraged about Starbucks cups rather than about persecution around the world.
00:37:28.380 And I think so.
00:37:29.380 We got our own issues to deal with, but also it's the culture as a whole.
00:37:32.380 So tell me because and I don't know if you heard last hour when I was talking about Bonhoeffer and that we have this closing window.
00:37:39.380 Bonhoeffer did not succeed in what he tried to do, although he was in the end victorious.
00:37:45.380 But he didn't he didn't change the people because the people had already abandoned their Judeo Christian values.
00:37:52.380 They were angry. They were outraged.
00:37:54.380 And they were they wanted political solutions, not a spiritual solution.
00:37:59.380 And they they just went for it.
00:38:04.380 We have this this window on our Judeo Christian culture and our and our underpinnings.
00:38:11.380 They're being lost.
00:38:13.380 And if we don't get through that window and keep people's hearts open, we're going to go really awry, really awry.
00:38:21.380 And I think ultimately this is our moment.
00:38:23.380 And, you know, not every we don't get to pick the moment we're born or that we live into.
00:38:27.380 And every generation has faced their challenges.
00:38:29.380 But this is our moment. And in the book, I sort of go through I have a chart and some stats.
00:38:34.380 We have some new statistics in each chapter.
00:38:36.380 And I talk about how in many ways that Judeo Christian consensus has been lost.
00:38:42.380 And now the views of, you know, Christians, different groups, maybe that are more on the conservative side are now outside in many ways of the mainstream of society,
00:38:52.380 where once they were the mainstream and that's kind of led to an accelerated outrage cycle.
00:38:58.380 It's led to everyone's turning up the volume to 11.
00:39:01.380 And ultimately, I don't think that's the path.
00:39:04.380 And I appreciate what you just said earlier when you're talking to talking to Dan is we've got to we've got to choose a different way.
00:39:11.380 Now, one of the key things is Christians are consistently choosing a different way.
00:39:15.380 And, you know, we don't need to be discipled by our cable news network.
00:39:19.380 We don't need to be shaped spiritually by our social media feed.
00:39:23.380 I think ultimately we need to be shaped as Christians by who Christ is.
00:39:28.380 And Jesus was unafraid to stand up.
00:39:31.380 I mean, he was in the temple and he turned over tables.
00:39:33.380 But he also showed this remarkable ability that we can model to to build bridges with people with whom he shouldn't even be around.
00:39:41.380 Think of the Samaritan woman at the well. And I think ultimately we need a better path.
00:39:45.380 The answer is not to get like the world.
00:39:48.380 The answer for Christians in this age of outrage is to really follow the way of Jesus into the world.
00:39:54.380 And I'm not some, you know, well, don't stand up for things.
00:39:56.380 Don't I mean, even you said you fight, but you fight, you know, for example, you can't war at a people and reach a people at the same time.
00:40:04.380 And so it's a question of how you approach that.
00:40:07.380 And we're just we're to use your title. We're addicted to outrage right now.
00:40:11.380 And I'm and I'm trying to say there's a better way for Christians to to to to to.
00:40:16.380 Well, even when they're the targets of the outrage and certainly to not participate in creating faux and false crises and outrage.
00:40:23.380 Well, here's what's interesting to me, and I pointed it out last hour.
00:40:27.380 If you talk politically, we're winning.
00:40:30.380 I mean, look at the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh.
00:40:33.380 I don't know of any president that would have stood up for that.
00:40:36.380 Look what happened with Israel in many ways.
00:40:39.380 You know, we're winning. It's not they're not forming mobs and going out and, you know, trying to get into people's face and getting them to react in anger because they're winning.
00:40:53.380 They're doing that because they're desperate.
00:40:56.380 We're actually making progress.
00:40:58.380 And somehow or another.
00:41:00.380 We're just being swept up in their drama.
00:41:04.380 Well, I think people are it's kind of weird that appeals to us.
00:41:08.380 There's a part of us.
00:41:09.380 And I think that's why, you know, we'll find, you know, some some some crisis on social media that Christians will be very attracted to.
00:41:17.380 And then we find out later that wasn't true.
00:41:18.380 And it kind of spread around.
00:41:20.380 And and, you know, and I think that's part of the concern.
00:41:23.380 What is it in us that draws us to outrage rather than to engage?
00:41:30.380 And I think there's a there's a difference between the two.
00:41:33.380 And, you know, I'm some for example, I'm someone who's deeply pro-life.
00:41:36.380 You know, I spoke at the March for Life here in Chicago not that long ago.
00:41:39.380 And, you know, you have kind of, you know, those of us in the March for Life speaking up and standing for life.
00:41:44.380 And then you had some protester around the side just calling us terrible people.
00:41:47.380 But then you had some some self-identified Christians yelling horrible things at them.
00:41:51.380 Yeah.
00:41:52.380 And here's what I don't want to be.
00:41:53.380 I want to be in the group that's saying I'm going to stand for life, not yelling horrible things at one another and thinking even the counter protesters who were kind of part of the March for Life,
00:42:02.380 but left and started yelling.
00:42:03.380 That's the problem.
00:42:04.380 We look too much like them.
00:42:06.380 And I don't think that that's our goal.
00:42:09.380 If our goal and we talk about this a lot in Christians in the Age of Outrage is to is to hold a biblical worldview, but then to engage the world with a winsome approach.
00:42:20.380 And and Glenn, for what's worth, I mean, I've been fascinated to watch you sort of walk through that journey as well.
00:42:27.380 And I think it really challenged a lot of people in the way that they would think.
00:42:31.380 And so so so kudos to you for even writing on this subject.
00:42:34.380 I think it matters.
00:42:35.380 I'd like to talk to you about your solutions.
00:42:37.380 So let me take a quick break.
00:42:39.380 The name of the book is Christians in the Age of Outrage.
00:42:42.380 I think it is really important.
00:42:44.380 We cannot become that which we despise.
00:42:47.380 We cannot play the same game.
00:42:49.380 First of all, just strategically, you lose.
00:42:52.380 The name of the book is Christians in the Age of Outrage.
00:42:55.380 And it is very frank.
00:42:57.380 It talks about what Christians can and and should do and also have not done and how we're actually hurting ourselves.
00:43:07.380 You talk about our God really kind of being identity now.
00:43:12.380 Can you explain that, Ed?
00:43:14.380 I think ultimately we've kind of as a nation moved ourselves into factions.
00:43:18.380 And what I don't want is Christians to be a faction in a world of factions.
00:43:23.380 I think that's the part of the problem.
00:43:25.380 But but I think, you know, people identify themselves as, you know, I'm I'm this or I'm that I've got a social media community.
00:43:30.380 And and then that faction sort of becomes identity becomes a faction.
00:43:34.380 The faction becomes an echo chamber.
00:43:36.380 And then ultimately we the volume just goes up, up and up and up and the anger just goes up, up and up and up.
00:43:41.380 And and we can't survive, I think, as a nation factionalizing at this level.
00:43:46.380 Eventually, you'll balkanize to use a term from history where we'll kind of break apart.
00:43:50.380 And so I think the ultimate thing is I can't you know, I can't solve all the political things.
00:43:54.380 You're you've got much bigger platform talking about politics than I do.
00:43:57.380 I'm just trying to help Christians to say, all right, how do we react?
00:44:00.380 How do we respond?
00:44:02.380 And the answer is, is not to take our identity from anything other than King Jesus.
00:44:07.380 And and again, I know that's overtly spiritual, but we're talking here in this in this focus.
00:44:12.380 I mean, so it's to take our identity from King Jesus.
00:44:14.380 Jesus is not coming back on Air Force One.
00:44:16.380 He's not riding a donkey or an elephant when he does.
00:44:19.380 And to acknowledge that I'm only all in as a Christian in following Christ and everything else is shaped around that.
00:44:27.380 My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom.
00:44:30.380 That's kind of our motto here at Wheaton College.
00:44:32.380 My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom than anything else.
00:44:35.380 So I explained this yesterday that, you know, the the so-called Christians of the Westboro Baptist Church, you know, they they hold up signs.
00:44:45.380 You know, God hates this. God hates that. Blah, blah, blah.
00:44:48.380 They're just despicable.
00:44:49.380 You don't win by by holding up signs.
00:44:54.380 No, God hates you and shouting things back.
00:44:57.380 They begin by listening, by understanding, by embracing them as a soul or a brother and sister.
00:45:05.380 Not what they're doing.
00:45:07.380 Standing up.
00:45:08.380 But people have been changed.
00:45:10.380 One woman in particular that actually left her own family in the Westboro Baptist Church.
00:45:16.380 That's right.
00:45:17.380 Because somebody spoke to her with civil with civility and said, let's just reason here for a minute.
00:45:22.380 Yeah, that's OK.
00:45:23.380 I have on my desk actually right here in front of me a nameplate because they actually protested at my church.
00:45:29.380 We went out and served them coffee and donuts.
00:45:31.380 And they called me in the national news.
00:45:33.380 I can't use one of the words probably on the radio, but a lying deep false prophet.
00:45:36.380 And so it's actually in one of my staff made it into a nameplate.
00:45:39.380 It says lying blank, false prophet, Westboro Baptist Church, which, by the way, is neither Baptist nor a church.
00:45:46.380 But in doing so, I mean, the question is, how do we respond?
00:45:49.380 Well, somebody reached out.
00:45:50.380 I actually interviewed one of the members of the family as well at Christian Today.
00:45:53.380 So somebody reached out.
00:45:55.380 And I will tell you, I think that's what we can do right now with people who deeply disagree with us.
00:46:00.380 And the book is filled with examples of Christians who actually built relationships with people who radically disagreed.
00:46:06.380 And in the process, we're able to come to maybe a better understanding.
00:46:09.380 One example, for example, is the president of Biola University, which is a Christian university in California, met with the kind of the leader of the party in the state legislature there in California that was trying to change laws that would make it illegal for Biola to live their Christian beliefs about marriage, sexuality and more.
00:46:27.380 Well, they ended up getting to understand each other better.
00:46:30.380 The bill was ultimately not moved forward, but dropped.
00:46:33.380 And now we're at a very different place.
00:46:35.380 Now, I'm not saying you can always do that.
00:46:38.380 But I am saying that Christians need to try to do that.
00:46:41.380 And I do think that in doing so, we'll act a lot more like Jesus or even this.
00:46:46.380 How about a lot more like Christians historically?
00:46:49.380 Because the moment we're in is not time for us to join in ratcheting up the outrage.
00:46:56.380 And as you said earlier to your caller, I'm calling people to arms.
00:46:59.380 Yet that's not.
00:47:00.380 I mean, Glenn, that's not an uncommon view.
00:47:03.380 And some of the some of the worst things I see on social media, I I click on a link and I find go to the bio and it's the first thing listed on the thing is Christian.
00:47:11.380 And I'm like, that's not what it's supposed to look like.
00:47:13.380 And I think that's what we need is a change in a lot of hearts.
00:47:16.380 I will tell you this, the ones who can teach us this right now are the the victims of ISIS and the ones who were were literally chained as slaves.
00:47:26.380 You know, story after story after story of these Christians who I mean, I know one family that actually wrote to ISIS after they said, you're all dead.
00:47:37.380 We're coming Saturday to kill you.
00:47:39.380 I think it was on I think it was on Sunday.
00:47:42.380 We're going to come on Sunday and kill you if you don't submit and we're going to crucify you.
00:47:48.380 The family sat down, kids and all, and wrote a letter and said, we understand.
00:47:53.380 We forgive you for that.
00:47:55.380 We're not we're not going to leave.
00:47:57.380 We'll be here.
00:47:58.380 You can come at three o'clock.
00:48:00.380 We only ask that you do not crucify us.
00:48:03.380 It is.
00:48:04.380 We're not worthy of that kind of a death.
00:48:07.380 And they lived because they stood up with peace.
00:48:11.380 It's unbelievable what's happening.
00:48:14.380 Well, we can learn from global Christians are also historically there was this emperor fascinating emperor called Julian the apostate.
00:48:20.380 I write about this in the book.
00:48:21.380 And he actually he's called the apostate because, you know, victors write the history and the Christians eventually became more and more prominent.
00:48:28.380 And here's what he writes because he's so angry about trying to hold back the advance of Christians.
00:48:33.380 He's a pagan.
00:48:34.380 And he says this, whilst the pagan priests neglect the poor, the hated Galileans devote themselves to works of charity.
00:48:40.380 He goes on and says these impious Galileans, impious Galileans not only feed their own poor, but also welcome them into their agape.
00:48:49.380 The name of the book.
00:48:50.380 The name of the book is Christians in the age of outrage.
00:48:53.380 Pick it up.
00:48:54.380 It is well worth the read.
00:49:00.380 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:49:02.380 I've seen some things that are game changing in certain ways, you know, being able to do it online instead of a TV.
00:49:15.380 It's pretty big.
00:49:16.380 No, no, no.
00:49:17.380 I went to something called the void.
00:49:19.380 Have you heard about this yet?
00:49:20.380 No, there's only one in Texas.
00:49:23.380 It's Lucas.
00:49:24.380 It's George Lucas that has done it.
00:49:27.380 And the one in Texas is at the Cinemark in West Plano.
00:49:31.380 I think it's $30 for 15 minutes.
00:49:35.380 Whoa.
00:49:36.380 I'd pay 60.
00:49:37.380 What?
00:49:38.380 What do you do?
00:49:39.380 What is it?
00:49:40.380 Okay.
00:49:41.380 It is virtual reality.
00:49:44.380 Um, and you, you go in, you put on this virtual reality suit, you put on the, the goggles, and then you go into this, this room.
00:49:54.380 That's just like a, it looks like a cubicle.
00:49:56.380 When your goggles are up, it looks like a cubicle.
00:49:58.380 It's just, it's all it is.
00:50:00.380 You put the goggles down and they start, and you are now in Star Wars.
00:50:05.380 What?
00:50:06.380 Yeah.
00:50:07.380 It's unbelievable.
00:50:09.380 You all, the people, you only go with four people, maximum four.
00:50:13.380 And so you're going in and like, you know, my kids, we were all storm troopers.
00:50:18.380 And I could tell who was who, because we all are linked by comms and the sizes are there, but you put the goggles down.
00:50:25.380 They're in suits.
00:50:26.380 You are in a suit.
00:50:27.380 You look down at yourself and you're in a suit.
00:50:28.380 You put your hands out and you're in a suit.
00:50:31.380 And you go, you go and you reach for things.
00:50:34.380 And it happens at one point, the, uh, the empire is pulling you over.
00:50:39.380 You're on this mission and it pulls you over and you're on.
00:50:42.380 You remember that?
00:50:43.380 No, probably nobody remembers this, but whatever that I, whatever that planet was, it was all lava that, you know, episode three.
00:50:50.380 Okay.
00:50:51.380 You're pulled over on that planet and the doors open up and you have to, you have to, uh, get off of your ship and get into theirs.
00:51:01.380 The doors open up.
00:51:02.380 You feel the heat of the lava and wherever you look, you're on the planet.
00:51:08.380 It's unbelievable.
00:51:09.380 It's unbelievable.
00:51:10.380 How is it?
00:51:11.380 I've not heard of this place.
00:51:12.380 It's brand new.
00:51:13.380 Just opened the last void.
00:51:14.380 The void.
00:51:15.380 I don't.
00:51:16.380 And it's in Plano.
00:51:17.380 It's in West Plano.
00:51:18.380 The only one in Texas.
00:51:19.380 It is game changing.
00:51:21.380 Wow.
00:51:22.380 I said to, I said to Rafe, cause I don't play games, all that stuff on.
00:51:27.380 I don't know how you're going to leave virtual reality.
00:51:32.380 It was the coolest experience I've ever had.
00:51:35.380 You were there.
00:51:36.380 You were there.
00:51:37.380 I fought Darth Vader.
00:51:39.380 It was unbelievable.
00:51:41.380 You really feel when you're walking out on the ship and you're walking out and it looks,
00:51:46.380 when you look down, it looks like you're on a grate.
00:51:48.380 So you're seeing the lava beneath you.
00:51:50.380 It's actually gives you that spooky feeling of like, I'm going to fall.
00:51:54.380 Really?
00:51:55.380 Yeah.
00:51:56.380 It is unbelievable.
00:51:57.380 I have to do.
00:51:58.380 Unbelievable.
00:51:59.380 This, this month.
00:52:00.380 How many does he have nationwide?
00:52:01.380 Do you know?
00:52:02.380 Don't know this, this month it is star Wars.
00:52:05.380 Next month is ghostbusters and you're going in and you have the power pack.
00:52:10.380 It's crazy.
00:52:11.380 Oh my God.
00:52:12.380 I got to try me.
00:52:13.380 Cause I, you know, obviously the virtual reality thing is, is, is not done to this level
00:52:17.380 normally.
00:52:18.380 Like they have some stuff and I don't think it's, it's, yeah, no, this is, this is well
00:52:22.380 done.
00:52:23.380 My son's have a little mobile unit and it's like, okay, it's kind of, no, you fight back.
00:52:28.380 You're fighting when you're fighting, you're, you've got a, you know, you've got a blaster
00:52:31.380 and you're fighting.
00:52:32.380 And when you're shot, you feel it.
00:52:34.380 You get a tingle in your chest or wherever it is, they shoot you.
00:52:38.380 It's wow.
00:52:39.380 It's amazing.
00:52:40.380 It is the closest thing to, uh, I didn't know that ready player one.
00:52:44.380 I didn't know that was available now.
00:52:46.380 Yeah.
00:52:47.380 You know, you, we, they talk about that being, uh, something that's going to happen in the
00:52:50.380 future, but to have it here and tickets, it's sold out all the time, all the time.
00:52:55.380 It's sold out.
00:52:56.380 Yeah.
00:52:57.380 And it is fan.
00:52:58.380 So asking how far in advance do you have to, I don't know.
00:53:01.380 You just have to call and just see.
00:53:03.380 Wow.
00:53:04.380 But get your ticket.
00:53:05.380 You will love it and find it if it's in your state or in your area.
00:53:08.380 Again, only one in Texas so far.
00:53:10.380 It's at the Cinemark in West Plano and it's called the void.
00:53:14.380 The blaze radio network on demand.