Glenn and Stu discuss the latest in the scandal surrounding Supreme Court nominee Brett KAVANAUGH. They also discuss Hillary Clinton's return to the stage, and why she should have been impeached in the first place.
00:01:06.900Uh, and we can, you know, we remember, too, like, a little, every once in a while, I think we forget that we're doing fairly well right now.
00:01:22.520And I will say, uh, more importantly, at the end of the show, Glenn discusses some new Star Wars virtual reality thing that, like, it's now the only thing I'm thinking about.
00:02:21.700So we shouldn't listen to the dozen or so women who have accused him of sexual assault over the past few decades.
00:02:29.000Instead, we should focus on the evil Republicans and their plot to fill the Supreme Court with sexual predators.
00:02:35.720Also, she's going on tour and wants everybody to know that $700 a ticket, totally worth it.
00:02:44.420Here she is talking about her tour in an interview with the very fair and balanced Christiane Anambour.
00:02:52.060You say that you're going to talk about the difficulties that your husband went through, that you went through.
00:02:56.340Obviously, you're going to be prepared to have questions about that moment in 1998, the impeachment, the allegations of sexual harassment against your own husband.
00:03:05.900Are you prepared to answer those questions?
00:03:09.520And how do you see that similar or different from what President Trump is being accused of and Kavanaugh and others today?
00:03:16.600Well, there's a very significant difference, and that is the intense, long-lasting, partisan investigation that was conducted in the 90s.
00:03:31.000If, you know, the Republicans, starting with President Trump on down, want a comparison, they should welcome such an investigation themselves.
00:03:40.540I do. I welcome the comparison. The investigation, I don't need to welcome it. It's already happening.
00:03:48.560They've been, there's been a partisan investigation on Donald Trump since before he was elected.
00:03:55.840Now, one woman who hasn't remained quiet about Bill Clinton's bad behavior and the hypocrisy of the left is Juanita Broderick.
00:04:06.080You know, the woman who said, Bill Clinton raped me.
00:04:11.420She says, I have 20 times more evidence for my rape by Bill Clinton than Dr. Ford has against Kavanaugh.
00:04:21.140All women are believed as long as they're not conservative, as long as the assault was not done by Democrats, end quote.
00:04:29.640Here she is in a recent interview with Laura Ingram when asked what she thought about the Democrats' circus-like handling of Kavanaugh's confirmation.
00:04:37.320It makes me go back to 1999 when Dianne Feinstein, along with every other Democrat, refused to read my deposition to the Independent Council.
00:04:51.340They wouldn't have nothing to do with it.
00:04:53.300That just shows you the difference in the double standard that existed back then and still does today.
00:05:01.740I think it's, I think this is astonishing that they can do this to Mr. Kavanaugh.
00:05:11.020It's astonishing that someone could survive with such cognitive dissidence, isn't it?
00:05:16.540She complains Democrats should be tougher and fight harder, but she clams up and starts speaking full-blown legalese when someone asks,
00:05:25.540how can you go on huge rants about sexual predators when your husband is widely considered to be a sexual predator and has a very credible charge of rape?
00:05:35.920Of course, she responds by hardening her face into that stony grin.
00:06:54.520I mean, the things that the people that are trying to cover this election and the Kavanaugh thing are actually saying, I mean, they're incredible.
00:07:05.300It's as if they don't care what the words they're saying mean.
00:16:49.160When are we going to be allowed to protect ourselves, protect our representatives, protect our streets, protect our businesses, protect the innocent?
00:30:25.160In this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation
00:30:32.140we are and what direction we want to move in.
00:30:36.020For those of you who are black, considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people
00:30:45.500who were responsible, you can be filled with bitterness and with hatred and a desire for revenge.
00:30:55.660We can move in that direction as a country in greater polarization, black people amongst blacks and white amongst whites filled with hatred toward one another.
00:31:11.260Or we can make an effort as Martin Luther King did to understand and to comprehend and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land with an effort to understand, compassion and love.
00:31:35.380For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart
00:31:57.380the same kind of feeling, the same kind of feeling, I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man, but we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.
00:32:17.380A favorite poem, my favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus, he once wrote,
00:32:30.380Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget, falls drop by drop upon the heart, until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom, through the awful grace of God.
00:32:46.380What we need in the United States is not division, what we need in the United States is not hatred, what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.
00:33:04.380Feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
00:33:14.380One of the greatest speeches given by any man in the United States, RFK.
00:33:25.380Martin Luther King had won already. He had won.
00:33:34.380If a politician would have gotten up on the back of a pickup truck and said what politicians are saying today,
00:33:42.380get them, Martin Luther King's life would have been wasted, because nobody would have wanted to be a part of that.
00:34:00.380And they would have identified, people would have looked at that and said, yeah, it's justified, but I don't want to be a part of that.
00:35:54.380And have you found, Ed, that it's not necessarily an understood topic or a popular topic right now to try to defuse it or explain what it does to us?
00:38:13.380And if we don't get through that window and keep people's hearts open, we're going to go really awry, really awry.
00:38:21.380And I think ultimately this is our moment.
00:38:23.380And, you know, not every we don't get to pick the moment we're born or that we live into.
00:38:27.380And every generation has faced their challenges.
00:38:29.380But this is our moment. And in the book, I sort of go through I have a chart and some stats.
00:38:34.380We have some new statistics in each chapter.
00:38:36.380And I talk about how in many ways that Judeo Christian consensus has been lost.
00:38:42.380And now the views of, you know, Christians, different groups, maybe that are more on the conservative side are now outside in many ways of the mainstream of society,
00:38:52.380where once they were the mainstream and that's kind of led to an accelerated outrage cycle.
00:38:58.380It's led to everyone's turning up the volume to 11.
00:39:01.380And ultimately, I don't think that's the path.
00:39:04.380And I appreciate what you just said earlier when you're talking to talking to Dan is we've got to we've got to choose a different way.
00:39:11.380Now, one of the key things is Christians are consistently choosing a different way.
00:39:15.380And, you know, we don't need to be discipled by our cable news network.
00:39:19.380We don't need to be shaped spiritually by our social media feed.
00:39:23.380I think ultimately we need to be shaped as Christians by who Christ is.
00:39:31.380I mean, he was in the temple and he turned over tables.
00:39:33.380But he also showed this remarkable ability that we can model to to build bridges with people with whom he shouldn't even be around.
00:39:41.380Think of the Samaritan woman at the well. And I think ultimately we need a better path.
00:39:45.380The answer is not to get like the world.
00:39:48.380The answer for Christians in this age of outrage is to really follow the way of Jesus into the world.
00:39:54.380And I'm not some, you know, well, don't stand up for things.
00:39:56.380Don't I mean, even you said you fight, but you fight, you know, for example, you can't war at a people and reach a people at the same time.
00:40:04.380And so it's a question of how you approach that.
00:40:07.380And we're just we're to use your title. We're addicted to outrage right now.
00:40:11.380And I'm and I'm trying to say there's a better way for Christians to to to to to.
00:40:16.380Well, even when they're the targets of the outrage and certainly to not participate in creating faux and false crises and outrage.
00:40:23.380Well, here's what's interesting to me, and I pointed it out last hour.
00:40:27.380If you talk politically, we're winning.
00:40:30.380I mean, look at the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh.
00:40:33.380I don't know of any president that would have stood up for that.
00:40:36.380Look what happened with Israel in many ways.
00:40:39.380You know, we're winning. It's not they're not forming mobs and going out and, you know, trying to get into people's face and getting them to react in anger because they're winning.
00:40:53.380They're doing that because they're desperate.
00:41:53.380I want to be in the group that's saying I'm going to stand for life, not yelling horrible things at one another and thinking even the counter protesters who were kind of part of the March for Life,
00:42:06.380And I don't think that that's our goal.
00:42:09.380If our goal and we talk about this a lot in Christians in the Age of Outrage is to is to hold a biblical worldview, but then to engage the world with a winsome approach.
00:42:20.380And and Glenn, for what's worth, I mean, I've been fascinated to watch you sort of walk through that journey as well.
00:42:27.380And I think it really challenged a lot of people in the way that they would think.
00:42:31.380And so so so kudos to you for even writing on this subject.
00:44:02.380And the answer is, is not to take our identity from anything other than King Jesus.
00:44:07.380And and again, I know that's overtly spiritual, but we're talking here in this in this focus.
00:44:12.380I mean, so it's to take our identity from King Jesus.
00:44:14.380Jesus is not coming back on Air Force One.
00:44:16.380He's not riding a donkey or an elephant when he does.
00:44:19.380And to acknowledge that I'm only all in as a Christian in following Christ and everything else is shaped around that.
00:44:27.380My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom.
00:44:30.380That's kind of our motto here at Wheaton College.
00:44:32.380My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom than anything else.
00:44:35.380So I explained this yesterday that, you know, the the so-called Christians of the Westboro Baptist Church, you know, they they hold up signs.
00:44:45.380You know, God hates this. God hates that. Blah, blah, blah.
00:45:55.380And I will tell you, I think that's what we can do right now with people who deeply disagree with us.
00:46:00.380And the book is filled with examples of Christians who actually built relationships with people who radically disagreed.
00:46:06.380And in the process, we're able to come to maybe a better understanding.
00:46:09.380One example, for example, is the president of Biola University, which is a Christian university in California, met with the kind of the leader of the party in the state legislature there in California that was trying to change laws that would make it illegal for Biola to live their Christian beliefs about marriage, sexuality and more.
00:46:27.380Well, they ended up getting to understand each other better.
00:46:30.380The bill was ultimately not moved forward, but dropped.
00:46:33.380And now we're at a very different place.
00:46:35.380Now, I'm not saying you can always do that.
00:46:38.380But I am saying that Christians need to try to do that.
00:46:41.380And I do think that in doing so, we'll act a lot more like Jesus or even this.
00:46:46.380How about a lot more like Christians historically?
00:46:49.380Because the moment we're in is not time for us to join in ratcheting up the outrage.
00:46:56.380And as you said earlier to your caller, I'm calling people to arms.
00:47:00.380I mean, Glenn, that's not an uncommon view.
00:47:03.380And some of the some of the worst things I see on social media, I I click on a link and I find go to the bio and it's the first thing listed on the thing is Christian.
00:47:11.380And I'm like, that's not what it's supposed to look like.
00:47:13.380And I think that's what we need is a change in a lot of hearts.
00:47:16.380I will tell you this, the ones who can teach us this right now are the the victims of ISIS and the ones who were were literally chained as slaves.
00:47:26.380You know, story after story after story of these Christians who I mean, I know one family that actually wrote to ISIS after they said, you're all dead.
00:48:21.380And he actually he's called the apostate because, you know, victors write the history and the Christians eventually became more and more prominent.
00:48:28.380And here's what he writes because he's so angry about trying to hold back the advance of Christians.