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Glenn Beck sits down with Gavin McGinnis to discuss the latest in the Avenatti vs. Trump defamation case, the latest on A Star is Born, and much, much more! Glenn Beck is a conservative commentator and host of the conservative radio show "The Glenn Beck Show" on the Blaze Radio Network.
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Welcome to the podcast. It's Tuesday, just a couple of weeks away from the beginning of our grand tour across America.
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All right. Today's podcast. We had some really interesting conversations.
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We talked a little bit about Brazil and what's happening with the elections, but we really spent some great time with Gavin McGinnis.
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Gavin McGinnis is, you know, the co-founder of Vice Magazine and Vice Media.
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He is also doing his own show, which I love the name of this. Get off my lawn.
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He's been in trouble because the media is saying that he's causing all of this violence with Antifa.
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We get his take on what really happened over the weekend in New York with Antifa.
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I also talked to a guy who called in about changing his life, actually, after seeing an interview with you and Ben Shapiro just a few weeks ago.
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Yeah. He was really fat, and he looked at me, and he was like, holy cow.
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No, actually, he has a multi-decade drinking problem.
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And to kind of hear him go through that was really...
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He was drinking at the time, and it changed him, and it was really quite interesting.
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And we'll lead to another conversation that we'll have on tomorrow's podcast about suicide and drinking.
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All kind of prompted a little bit by A Star is Born.
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On that note, I did the show sober today, so maybe you'll notice the podcast.
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Yeah. Also, Saudi Arabia is still in the news, and this could be the most important decision in Trump's presidency.
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How is he going to handle the Saudis when they say, yeah, we did torture that guy and then cut him up and put him in suitcases and then flew him back to Saudi Arabia?
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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I was going to start with saying that Michael Avenatti is, you know, is my cousin Vinny, but my cousin Vinny is even better than Michael Avenatti.
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He is the worst lawyer in all of the history, the annals of ridiculously bad lawyers.
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So I'm trying to figure out what national day this should be because with Avenatti, it could go either way.
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Right now, it's a toss-up between the no good, very bad lawyer day or the no good, very bad political operative day.
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And a federal judge was confused yesterday as well.
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Now, in case you don't remember, Avenatti is the guy who represents Stormy Daniels in the defamation lawsuit against the president.
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This is the reason why Avenatti, this is the reason why we know this guy.
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We know it because Stormy Daniels is his client and says, oh my gosh, the president is defaming me.
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Uh, I don't know we can defame strippers any more than you've defamed yourself.
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Anyway, so he goes and he is the infinite superstar lawyer.
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And he decided to build this case off of, get this, a tweet.
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Trump tweeted back in April regarding a man, allegedly sent by Trump, that he had threatened her not to come forward with her story.
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Quote, a sketch years later about a non-existent man, a total con job, playing the fake news media for fools, but they know it.
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The hounds of hell are unleashed in a defamation suit.
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So yesterday, we finally get to see the case and the lawyer, you know, has to stand up.
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Now, the judge isn't sure if this is just really bad lawyering or some kind of game of political football.
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The judge stated that the president's tweet was rhetorical hyperbole protected under the First Amendment.
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And part of the quote, politics and public discourse in the United States.
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So forget for a moment that a federal judge has just highlighted that a defamation suit between a sitting U.S.
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president, a porn star and a political activist masquerading as a lawyer is now considered normal and business as usual.
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Consider for just a second that this lawyer is actually considering running for president of the United States, a man that has shown no qualms at all with parading women, first Daniels and then Swetnick, in front of the entire world, embarrass them all for his own ugly political greed.
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The federal judge ordered the case closed and Stormy Daniels has to pay all of the president's legal fees.
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Now, this might be the funniest thing that has has has has come out of all of it.
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Daniels has set up a crowd justice page, kind of like a GoFundMe page back in April to pay for all of her legal fees.
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And as of today, that page has raised five hundred and eighty six thousand dollars.
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So to everyone who just donated, you just paid President Trump's lawyers over half a million dollars.
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And as the kids as the kids say nowadays, LOL, we need to have a powwow about Elizabeth Warren to powwow chow.
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We need to make that oatmeal soup that she made in powwow chow.
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I hope that somebody smoke a peace pipe on this whole thing, because this is this is just outrageous.
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She released this big, basically, I would say, presidential audition video yesterday to show everyone that she was super Native American.
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Which is is something that does not seem to be backed up by the facts.
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Now, they first came out and said, well, the DNA test shows her to be one thirty second Cherokee.
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And they actually looked at the report and says one thirty second to one five hundred and twelfth.
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Then they realize, oopsie doopsie, we made a math error.
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They didn't say oopsie doopsie in the correction, but they they should have because that always makes everything better.
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But it was between one one sixty fourth and one one thousand twenty fourth.
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So if you cut the human body up to one one thousand twenty four pieces that one of them, one of those pieces would have a little bit of Cherokee.
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Now, this theoretically, right, could at least give her a technical defense of her bullcrap over the past 50 years.
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Where she's lying and saying she's, you know, she's a Native American and she's getting benefits for this and she's getting her stupid soup recipes and powwow chow, which is the goal of almost everybody.
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You want to talk about appropriating a culture powwow chow?
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But let's all complain about the names of football teams.
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But let's let Elizabeth Warren get away with powwow chow.
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From here on out, our our audience is called our tribe and we mean it in the Native American sense.
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Well, it does say I mean, there are studies that show that the average person of European descent has more Native American blood in them than Elizabeth Warren is even showing in her study.
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The average person, the average person, because I mean, look, this is not a it's a very DNA is a complicated matter.
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And it doesn't exactly show what they try to make it out to show.
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It doesn't show any DNA from an actual Native American.
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Because we don't have any DNA DNA Native American tribes have said we're not participating in DNA studies.
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So we can't use actual Native Americans to test the DNA against.
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We have to use people from Peru, Mexico and Colombia.
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And the theory is that they those the same people want migrating further south.
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But it does not show that she has Native American blood.
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Ted Cruz was born in Canada, as many people have noticed and like to point out over the years.
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It shows a lineage and it shows it's it can be interesting in some ways to show migration patterns and things.
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I wonder if he would it would if his blood would show that he's a thousand times more Hispanic than Robert Francis O'Rourke.
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But so it's interesting, you know, from that standpoint of her trying to put this issue behind her and falling flat on her face.
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First of all, it does not even show the Native American thing.
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Second of all, the other part which is interesting about this is they do have an idea who they believe the Native American relative was.
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It was her great, great, great, great grandmother, I think, several generations back.
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And when she registered, it was in the 1700s, she registered as white.
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Now, the theory, again, as put forth by the Warren campaign, and this is true, that she would have had an incentive at this time to identify as white instead of a Native American because there was a lot of violence against Native Americans at the time.
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So if you could get out of saying, you know, it's like if you're in Nazi Germany and you said you were not a Jew, right, and you were able to get away with that, there'd be some serious incentives to do that.
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Number one, obviously, while that's true, we don't know that it's true with this person, right?
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We don't know that it was true with her great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother.
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And secondarily, Glenn, what have we learned from progressives?
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We have learned that if you identify as something, you are that thing.
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This woman identified as white, and now we're denying her what she herself has identified as.
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She said she was white, and now we're going to tell her she's not?
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That was what I was told we were not allowed to apply to anybody.
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No, we can't do that to her, but Elizabeth Warren is identifying as Cherokee, so we have to accept that she is.
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But we can't accept what her great, great, great grandmother identified as.
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I mean, really, seriously, this is so ridiculous.
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I don't care either, but I care that she's lying and the people shouldn't.
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Look, I want a cigar store Indian with Elizabeth Warren's face more than anybody else on the planet, so don't get me.
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I have a story in my family, okay, of one of my great, great, great grandfathers.
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Now, my grandfather actually took a horse, a full-sized horse.
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And he took him, and he grabbed him underneath the chin.
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He didn't have anything to put this horse down, didn't have a gun or anything else to put.
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And he took him, and he punched him in the head and knocked the horse out, okay?
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So my family, on my mother's side, they're big people, and they had muscles in them that I don't have, okay?
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Now, the legend in the family is that my great, great, great, great grandfather was this guy.
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I don't know why they always involve horses, but one of the neighbor's horses kept jumping over and getting into his garden or whatever.
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And he picked it up and threw it over the fence.
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She might have grown up hearing, oh, yeah, this is what it was.
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How many advantages through your life did you get because you had people in your family who threw horses over walls or whatever?
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Again, she is trying to play identity politics.
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And if you're going to play identity politics, you better be right on these things.
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Well, you know what is a huge part of this story is the Cherokee Nation came out yesterday.
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A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship.
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Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America.
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Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship.
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And while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternally to an individual,
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Using a DNA test to claim any connection to a Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong.
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It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens,
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whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven.
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Senator Warren is undermining tribal interest with her continued claims of tribal heritage.
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They're not offering the peace pipe here to her.
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And does this not, Glenn, this whole saga of the last two days, as you point out, ridiculous story,
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does this not serve as a gigantic warning sign to Democrats to not nominate her?
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Anybody who has won 1,026th of anything is going to be voting for her.
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And Avenatti should be either her spokesperson or VP or both.
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You mentioned you signed a book for him, and the book, of course, Addicted to Outrage,
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which we talked about about 25 zillion times in the past couple months.
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You may know that it is available in bookstores.
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However, one thing we don't mention often is the subtitle, and it's about how treating
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the country, right, and admitting that we have a problem, not like us, but like the
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country as a whole has an issue with the way they're dealing with problems, and if
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you look at that, because it's about—I don't have it in front of me.
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Yeah, it's how thinking like a recovering addict can help you heal the country.
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Yeah, I mean, it's those principles that are helping him get through that alcoholism,
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A lot of those same principles would work on our country.
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And that's—you know, you get into some of the addiction issues in the book, but also
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how that applies to everything we have to deal with on a daily basis.
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You know, with a cure for Michael Avenatti, like this is—that's what the book is about,
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It's about being able to apply those principles to other situations.
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It starts at the—and it starts at the beginning.
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It's not just admitting you have a problem, that we all have a problem, that the nation
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has a problem, and I think we can all admit that.
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Um, but it really—it really—it's—I think there's a section in here that—in the book
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As an alcoholic, I had to decide, is life worth living?
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And in the book, there's a chapter of, are we good or are we bad?
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Is this republic—is the American experiment worth saving?
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We're seeing people tear it down, but nobody—who's talking about, is it worth saving?
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And the book goes through that, and I—I think the road to recovery of—of our ills in this
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You know, you can say—Hillary Clinton can say, well, I can't compromise with people.
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You know, I can't even talk to those people because they want to destroy everything I
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Well, what is it you believe in and—and really believe in?
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Now, she can't do that because I don't—I just don't think that she's—she's honest
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Yes, we have to say that to our neighbors that we think we disagree with.
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Can we just—can we not talk about politics for a second?
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And the book shows you how to have that conversation and gives you some—some facts, both on good
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Because both sides have to—have to step to the plate.
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Republicans generally see rah-rah all of the good things, red, white, and blue, and we're
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And we don't want to hear the bad things because usually the bad things are being told to us
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We have to go out and learn the bad things about the country.
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And those people who just know the bad things about the country have to go and honestly look
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Because—I don't know about you, but I'm both good and bad.
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And my struggle every day is to be more good than bad.
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And can you save, quote, the free market system by violating the free market system?
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And once we decide on that, we'll know the path forward.
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Gavin is a CRTV host, Get Off My Lawn, which is, I think, my favorite name of any show.
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And he's in trouble now because the press has decided he's very, very violent.
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He is the co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine and now on CRTV.
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It's one of the few places telling the right stories.
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My tribe, reluctantly, is more of the, you know, stand with peace and more of Martin Luther King.
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I want us to be able to understand each other and live with one another because you're not the enemy.
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And what you guys are doing, I totally and completely understand.
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You've had enough and you want to stand up and say, because nobody else is.
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Those two versions wouldn't have been that different on Friday night.
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The guys who were looking for a fight, they got in some extra kicks, right?
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And so that's maybe five seconds of violence that wouldn't have happened if it went your way.
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That's five seconds out of three days of terror.
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They were giving death threats to this old lady who answered the phone there.
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Let's start, let's go back to what you were doing, what the venue is, what, and you have
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to hit on the poster because I think the poster is just entertaining, but go ahead.
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Well, I, Otoya Yamaguchi killed a socialist with a samurai sword in 1960.
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And it's a funny troll that a lot of right-wing guys do.
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It's sort of like the Pinochet thing, free rides, free helicopter rides for commies.
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I announced it on Tuesdays, called myself Otoya Yamaguchi, and I photoshopped myself into
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The second we announced that, and anyone who knows me too knows that it's satire, Antifa
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They start attacking the venue, attacking the old lady there.
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The calls are coming from all over the country, by the way.
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So this is a planned attack that Antifa has worked.
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I think DNC and Antifa are working hand-in-hand because this was well-organized and well-funded.
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Night before the venue, totally trashed, window smashed, big, ridiculous, pretentious manifesto
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nailed to the door that says that we put the Republicans on notice.
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We are not civil, which, by the way, is a Hillary quote.
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So then I get to the venue that night, sorry, the next night, total and utter chaos, beautifully
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made signs, screaming, hurling bottles of urine, which one of them hit my car on the
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It's like, there's this guy in a Mets hat, you'll see if you really get deep into the
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foxhole, where he's calling Antifa and saying, you know, you guys, go over there, over there.
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They arrest three of the ten who mobbed this guy.
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But I interviewed him today, and he was talking about coordinated attacks.
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So this isn't anarchy these anarchists are pulling off.
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Well, you know, I don't know if I'm sure you are.
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Antifa Austin is, on their Facebook page, has called for guerrilla-style tactics.
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They've called for a, what do they call it, a black shirt army or something, a red shirt
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But they're calling for people that just want to go out and do what Antifa normally
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But they're also calling now for an actual standing army.
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And they were looking for people that know military tactics that could teach people.
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And, of course, Facebook doesn't have a problem with covering that.
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Well, that must be the Mets hat guy the police are looking for that my citizen journalist
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So, yeah, those guys were charged with assault and robbery because they took his backpack.
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So now you and I, by the way, peaceful Martin Luther King guy and Malcolm X guy are still
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And then when it's time to leave, I come out there.
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And then this group of proud boys are the last ones to go.
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And the video just came out yesterday on Breaking 911 on Twitter.
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They are attacked by Antifa, fully clad with all their gear.
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And they throw a bottle at them, and a huge fight breaks out.
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And now, in your world, that fight would have been, you know, hey, cops, cops, or something
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In the Malcolm X world, it's a little bit longer.
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The real issue is we are up against homicidal lunatics with no agenda, no plan.
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It's not like they know where we're going to get, you know, our gas and oil from after
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These guys just want to burn America to the ground.
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So it's so frustrating because we had the same kind of thing happening out in Portland, Oregon.
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And, you know, Portland has, I don't know who this mayor is.
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Where they're already directing traffic Antifa, the police are standing a block away, and then
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Well, my understanding with these super left-wing towns like Berkeley and Portland is the mayor
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allows Antifa to wreak chaos, and then he can say, sorry, Trump supporters are trouble.
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I mean, look at all the chaos that happens when somebody who likes Trump shows up, when
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So let's just, you know, if you don't want Antifa around, stop being fa.
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It's interesting, Gavin, because the initial video seemed to indicate that your guys were
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in the wrong, that they had, they started this and they started the violence.
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The second video that was released, however, shows clearly someone from Antifa throwing
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something at the Proud Boys, and that's when the fight breaks out.
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It was not something that you guys, at least the main one that has been covered, it was
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Isn't it strange how quick the media is to run with the evil Nazi narrative without doing
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And isn't it strange, too, how the media takes a five-second clip and makes that the total
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story when we have days and days and days of subterfuge, days and days of domestic violence?
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It's almost like, I'm at the point now where I think they don't just like Antifa, they are
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I think a lot of these journalists, these little HuffPo bloggers, will go to rallies
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I will tell you, I'm having a very hard time defending the press, which I have tried to be
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But the deeper we get into the violence on the streets and the calls for kick them when
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they're down and all of this stuff, there's no excuse.
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When they will not call a mob a mob, an angry mob, when everybody knows what that means,
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Tucker Carlson just today said he can't go to restaurants.
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No known conservative can go to a restaurant today.
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That's a new one, and it's because the media will throw around white supremacists like
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A white supremacist is someone who sees white people as above all other races, just inherently
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better, and wants all the other races out of America.
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And they just throw it on us, and it sticks like glue.
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Well, first of all, I'm not the leader of the Proud Boys.
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And they grew organically as someone who wanted to stand up to the violence of Antifa,
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who were pepper spraying and Coulter and Lawrence Southern and me and all these other people
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And inevitably, when you're that violent, I mean, if you had a group slashing tires, you're
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So this group would not exist if Antifa wasn't trying to shout people down and trying to take
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I think they'd just be at a bar like the Elks Lodge.
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But more importantly, the way I feel personally is America is the greatest country on earth
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because it's not about identity politics, because it's not about your accent like it is in Britain
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You come here, you bust your ass, you at least appreciate Judeo-Christian values.
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You can be an atheist, but you have to understand that that is the backbone of the country.
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We don't care if you're from Uganda, Singapore, you bust your ass, you're into American values,
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And there's not a lot of places like that in the world.
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It's very rare to have that total lack of classism and that admiration for independence
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And we got there through a horrible list of ups and downs and rights and wrongs and trying
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Our treatment of the Indians was not what you'd expect for someone to whom the Sermon
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on the Mount was divine command, as Buchanan says.
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But we got here all together through all this mess and all this suffering.
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And here we are in the freest country of the world, and we get people complaining, saying
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And it's ironic that we get called white supremacists because the reason we love America is it doesn't
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I think the media basically just said Antifa didn't exist.
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And as the violence has escalated, their new tactic seems to be, well, yes, there's violence,
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but it's the Proud Boys' fault or it's the right wing's fault.
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My favorite is they're just exercising their First Amendment right of assembly and petition.
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I'm curious, Gavin, if you detected a difference recently in the approach from the media as
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trying to make your group the real villain in this.
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Because, I mean, there was a tweet string going on about the alleged violence by Proud Boys
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members, and it was retweeted by people like Maggie Haberman.
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Like, big-time reporters were going after this.
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You've become, I think, a central target in this.
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I think the DNC put their, hate is not, hate has no home here.
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That's the only thing they have to say to America.
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That's like saying, we are sick of albino violence.
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Like, they just chose this really weird concept, these evil Nazis, and they said, we're going
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So they go, uh-oh, we've got to expand the net here.
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So now anyone who disagrees with them is part of this evil hate they have to stop.
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And I, unfortunately, have fallen into that definition.
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And it's amazing that Antifa and the media and the DNC are all in cahoots.
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Like Cuomo was saying, hate is like a match, and you put it on dry grass, and then the wind
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I think the match is Antifa, the wind is the media, and the DNC are starting fires.
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I have to tell you, I have a hard time disagreeing with that, seeing the way the left has just
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I mean, there's, you know, when you're into an organization where you're starting to say,
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you know, shout your abortion, and that kind of really despicable kind of behavior, you're
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bound and determined to start just going way off the rails.
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I mean, they used to, and it's the same as in Britain, by the way.
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The way that the DNC uses Antifa as their paramilitary wing here, the media uses the jihadists
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And the attitude in both cases is, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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And Antifa's language and the DNC language is getting more and more similar.
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Just like that note, it said, we are not civil.
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When we go low, when they go low, we kick them.
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Or Maxine Waters saying, no freedom, no peace or whatever.
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We got people on CNN saying that Sarah Huckabee Saunders should be harassed for the rest of
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I mean, can you tell the difference in all those stories between Antifa and the DNC?
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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I want to talk to you a little bit about Brazil and the elections that are going on there.
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Nobody's paying attention to this because, you know, it's, it's, it was far more important
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than we talk about somebody's, you know, Cherokee heritage.
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But something is happening in Brazil that can really upset the Americas, both North and
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And the guy that might win has some scary earmarks.
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And the press, if you ever hear talk about him, says, oh, this is a Brazil's Donald Trump.
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Although I believe Steve Bannon is involved in this.
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Everything seemed to be going great for Brazil.
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Unfortunately, there was this huge corruption scandal in the government.
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And a lot of people, uh, went to jail because of that.
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Um, the, some of the districts, the police had no fuel for their cars.
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And when that happens, then you start to get radicals.
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Only 56% of Brazilians now say that democracy is the best form of government.
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We, we wanted to talk to somebody who could explain this to us and talk down to us because,
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She is, um, uh, covering the Brazilian general election, uh, in Brazil, uh, for the, you know,
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Um, do we have a reason to be concerned about, let me see, his name is, uh, uh, Bolsonaro?
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Uh, the fact is that Brazilian voters, uh, are now responding to approximately a decade
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of corruption scandals, uh, and the Workers' Party, that is the party from former President
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Uh, they are definitely not the sole responsables for, uh, these scandals.
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But as almost every large party in Brazil was reached, uh, in some way by the car wash operation,
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the scandal you mentioned that started in the oil business, this generated in Brazil a
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completely different situation regarding, uh, the political class.
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So, uh, 70% of Brazilians say they don't have faith in any political party, right?
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And so, what we are seeing here is more of a movement against the Workers' Party and the
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Brazil, not only Workers' Party, uh, several traditional, uh, parties were impacted in these
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And this created, uh, an environment that allowed Jair Bolsonaro to grow unexpectedly.
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Uh, I believe every other, all the other candidates were expecting him to, um, stay small at least
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And what happened, he was the victim of a knife attack, and this allowed him to stay far from
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And the fact is, I believe, uh, yes, uh, every country that has relations, uh, with Brazil,
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uh, has a reason to be concerned, because we still don't have any clarity on how will be,
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He, he grew up in a time where there was military rule in Brazil, and that was, that
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was overthrown, uh, and democracy came, and he has hinted in the past that, uh, that's
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the way, you know, you should run a government.
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He has, he has called for, in what, I think 99, a civil war, um, and the liquidation of about
00:41:14.200
He is extraordinarily divisive, but he is not, he is not talking about a smaller government.
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He is talking about a government run by the military, or at least he has in the past,
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And he is surrounded by military, so, uh, his closest advisors today are, uh, militaries.
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So, uh, an exception is, uh, Paulo Guedes, uh, that is appointed as his minister of economy.
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This guy is a liberal, so we have several differences regarding President Trump, as you mentioned.
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He's a, uh, he, he's a liberal, and he, uh, comes, he had strong relationships with financial
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So, this is the man that he points out as, uh, the base of the trust in his government.
00:42:05.980
But, uh, he said he, uh, it's not clear, uh, how he will manage his own team.
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He, he has had some trouble controlling, uh, his advisors that have given, uh, interviews,
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uh, saying things that he had later to, uh, unauthorize them.
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So, uh, it is possible that, uh, he will close down and keep a very close government regarding
00:42:34.360
He has been using social media as his basic communication tool.
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Now, this is the kind of, the kind of the same thing that Hugo Chavez said when he was
00:42:46.480
He said, oh, no, it's not going to be this way.
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And he immediately, uh, came in and he started taking over the media and, and, uh, nationalizing
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everything is, is there, um, is that what we're looking at?
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Are we looking at a, a, a dictatorship possibility with him that is a military?
00:43:08.660
And is it, when you say he's liberal, is that, is that mean a socialist Marxist or what does
00:43:17.460
What we expect here, most analysts, uh, don't see an immediate, uh, risk to democracy as
00:43:25.780
he will, uh, take office and immediately he will shut down Congress.
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That's not what has been, uh, discussed here at this time.
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What is expected is that maybe he could, uh, promote some change in constitution.
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He has, uh, suggested that he could create a council that would, uh, create a new constitution
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for Brazil and that would be submitted, uh, to, uh, vote, uh, after it.
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So, uh, in, in a council to, to people, to, uh, electors in general.
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So it, he had to, to take back this, this proposal, but it's not clear if he will, uh, bring
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it back once he takes office because the fact is that he's not going to debate.
00:44:16.180
He, uh, is giving, uh, just a, a few interviews.
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He has been speaking mainly through social media, so he has no confrontation from the press.
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And this, uh, creates, uh, an unknown territory.
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We don't know what's coming, but, uh, analysts, most analysts don't expect something so drastic,
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uh, right at the time, including because, uh, in the legislative elections, he got, uh,
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a strong, uh, performance in, uh, from his allies in Congress.
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So we expect that he has some, some level of governability and he will be able to do some
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of the changes that he intends to, but we still don't know exactly what would be those changes.
00:45:04.780
Um, can you tell me Steve Bannon's involvement in this?
00:45:08.220
Uh, Jair Bolsonaro's son, Eduardo Bolsonaro, uh, he posted online, uh, a while back, a photo
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of him, uh, next to Bannon and said that Bannon, uh, said he would be glad to help in the campaign
00:45:26.840
Uh, this generated a strong repercussion that Bannon was involved and was responsible in a,
00:45:33.080
in a great part of, uh, Bolsonaro's strategy, but, uh, Bolsonaro himself, uh, came to public
00:45:40.120
afterwards and said it was fake news that has nothing to do with it.
00:45:44.240
What we know for a fact is that Bannon has given some indications that he considers, uh,
00:45:50.420
Bolsonaro an expression of this right-wing movement that we see, uh, in other parts of
00:45:56.260
the world and he includes, uh, Donald Trump in this, uh, movement.
00:45:59.780
So he understands that it's, uh, it's a clear wave in this direction and Bolsonaro would be
00:46:07.280
an expression of this, but we have no, uh, clear indication that he would be involved.
00:46:11.860
There's a picture of him close to the president's, uh, presidential candidate's son, uh, and some
00:46:18.680
sort of a message that he took part in this somehow, but we don't know exactly at what
00:46:24.420
And, uh, Clarissa, when, when is the election finalized?
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Uh, now at the end of the month, uh, on Sunday 28th, uh, we'll have the final results.
00:46:36.500
It's very likely the, considering the current polls that Bolsonaro will be elected.
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Uh, we, uh, yesterday we had a recent poll that gave Bolsonaro 59% of valid votes and Fernando
00:46:51.160
Haddad, that is the candidate from the workers' party, only 41.
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And, uh, Bolsonaro, uh, poll after poll has indicated that, uh, his electors are very sure
00:47:07.160
So, uh, we, we would have to have, uh, a new fact, something that would be strong enough
00:47:13.600
to change the scenario, but, um, it's very likely that he wins the election.
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Clarissa, we'll talk to you again after the election and, uh, find out, uh, some more.