The Glenn Beck Program - September 24, 2018


Best of the Program with Heather Mac Donald ｜ 9⧸24⧸18


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

136.43419

Word Count

6,681

Sentence Count

487

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Brett Kavanaugh, has come forward with a new allegation against him. She claims that he thrust his penis into her face when they were drinking at a party in the early 1980s. He denies it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand.
00:00:06.080 Hey everybody, it's Monday back in the studios in Dallas, Texas.
00:00:09.600 We're so glad you're listening to the podcast.
00:00:11.980 Today's episode, we begin with the new allegation released by the New Yorker magazine.
00:00:18.700 But I kind of started a different place than usual.
00:00:23.120 I started doing some research this weekend on how does this end?
00:00:28.700 Have we ever done this before in politics?
00:00:31.080 And the answer is yes, we have.
00:00:33.120 And it takes us to a story that many of us know already, but we don't really know how it happened.
00:00:42.920 It's an amazing tie that I don't think you're going to get anywhere else on the Kavanaugh debate.
00:00:48.720 Also, we have Heather MacDonald on with us.
00:00:52.620 Heather MacDonald is a former professor who was into postmodernism,
00:00:57.740 and she really kind of outlines what we really have to do when it comes to our colleges and our civilization as it begins to melt down.
00:01:07.360 What should you do about your kids?
00:01:09.900 And postmodern social justice continues to change our world.
00:01:13.700 Ted Cruz, the anti-Texan Beto, who won the debate.
00:01:17.580 Also, the amazing ad that has six siblings out of, I think, nine siblings that are saying,
00:01:27.040 this Republican brother of ours, he's not helping.
00:01:30.760 I think it's actually going to backfire.
00:01:33.180 I'll tell you why and so much more on today's podcast.
00:01:35.860 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:48.780 It's Monday, September 24th.
00:01:52.560 Another allegation was lobbed at Kavanaugh last night.
00:01:56.140 This one comes from Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh,
00:02:01.560 who told the New Yorker that Kavanaugh thrust his penis in her face, causing her to touch it.
00:02:15.780 She claims that both of them were highly intoxicated.
00:02:19.240 No.
00:02:20.640 All right.
00:02:21.140 First of all, the story should have never made it to print.
00:02:24.960 It is telling that the New Yorker ran it while the New York Times and Washington Post have stayed away.
00:02:30.020 Ramirez admits that she had spent six days, quote,
00:02:36.080 assessing her memories before really, truly recalling what had happened.
00:02:41.920 She also admits that there are, quote,
00:02:43.540 significant gaps in her memories of the evening.
00:02:46.320 Like the Ford allegation, no one can collaborate.
00:02:50.320 And Kavanaugh has flat out denied it has ever happened, as has many people that she said were there.
00:02:58.380 They have all come out now since and said, I have no recollection of this even happening.
00:03:04.740 It's totally out of character.
00:03:06.700 So how did this make it into a national publication?
00:03:10.100 Have the rules of journalism changed or suddenly spontaneously combust?
00:03:14.680 No.
00:03:16.220 It's just that there are no real rules of journalism anymore.
00:03:19.220 The real journalists have left.
00:03:22.160 Advocates and torchbearers have taken their places.
00:03:25.780 And in the digital world where you can assassinate someone's character in 0.7 seconds, go ahead, try it.
00:03:32.700 Google Kavanaugh.
00:03:34.120 It'll take you 0.7 seconds for Google to come back with 128 million results.
00:03:40.140 That's how fast it happens now.
00:03:44.080 If someone can make a false claim on Twitter, it'll be retweeted 10,000 times plus.
00:03:50.480 The correction, if it even comes from the original poster, will only get, what, 10 or 20 tweets, maybe?
00:03:57.520 That's what Democrats are doing to Kavanaugh now.
00:04:00.400 And they know it.
00:04:01.220 And sadly, so does Kavanaugh.
00:04:02.600 It's amazing what we're seeing in our country right now.
00:04:07.120 Is this the country that you want your kids to grow up in?
00:04:10.620 Is this fairness?
00:04:13.840 No.
00:04:14.760 This is social justice.
00:04:17.040 Social justice in the postmodern world means that it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh did it.
00:04:22.340 Somebody like Kavanaugh did do it.
00:04:25.700 It doesn't matter if it happened to these victims because it has happened or something like it has happened to other victims.
00:04:34.560 And it all balances out in the end, or so they think.
00:04:38.680 I just ask any of anybody who is so sure of themselves today, on one side or the other, if this were happening to you, would you think this was a fair process?
00:04:56.940 The left has taken this hearing and completely turned the rules upside down.
00:05:02.760 The term reasonable doubt has always meant that if it exists, you have to assume the person is innocent.
00:05:10.140 Reasonable doubt.
00:05:12.060 Well, I can't find any reason to believe.
00:05:18.580 These people on Twitter yesterday were all absolutely positively sure Kavanaugh was guilty.
00:05:26.300 Well, I'm not absolutely positively sure he's not.
00:05:31.420 How could you possibly, based on two people, that their stories fall apart once it leaves them?
00:05:40.400 The left has now rewritten the definition.
00:05:44.280 There's no evidence, not one single corroborating witness to any of these claims.
00:05:51.540 Not one.
00:05:52.080 Now, that's enough to get you laughed out of a courtroom.
00:05:57.500 But for some reason, the, quote, resistance wants reasonable doubt now to shift toward the accuser.
00:06:04.720 Keep in mind, these are the same people, the very same people, who are supposedly for criminal justice and prison reform.
00:06:12.040 Isn't it exactly the problem?
00:06:16.540 Haven't we been in a society that will believe the white woman instead of Emmett Till?
00:06:25.180 Wasn't that the problem?
00:06:27.320 This one white woman's testimony, who claimed he touched her, he grabbed her, and he made lewd comments to her?
00:06:37.160 That's why nobody went to jail.
00:06:42.620 Because the reasonable doubt went to her.
00:06:47.980 If reasonable doubt shifts towards the accuser, can you imagine how full our prisons will be?
00:06:54.280 Can you imagine living under a government where reasonable doubt always sides towards the prosecution?
00:07:00.020 If there is no evidence, if there are no witnesses to any of these claims, I'm sorry, but Kavanaugh must get confirmed.
00:07:13.100 Now, if they have witnesses and we have reasonable doubt, well, he probably should be concerned.
00:07:24.720 But if we can get to a point to where it's clear, to all of us who are honest, then he should go away.
00:07:36.320 Senate Democrats know the game they're playing.
00:07:41.260 Their ultimate goal here?
00:07:43.540 It's the midterms, 2020.
00:07:45.840 The Supreme Court confirmation hearing is just a tool of the left used to influence another court.
00:07:51.500 And that is the court of public opinion.
00:07:55.640 You know, this has been coming for a long time.
00:07:57.800 It's just that we have to get off this train.
00:08:00.640 We've accepted it from each of our parties for a while.
00:08:04.740 Do you remember when, uh, uh, when, oh, who was it from Arizona?
00:08:10.640 The Mormon from Arizona, Pat, or Nevada, Nevada.
00:08:19.100 What's his name?
00:08:20.440 Uh, Harry Reid.
00:08:21.340 Harry Reid.
00:08:22.120 When Harry Reid stands up and says, you know, Romney, I got a call.
00:08:26.680 Romney.
00:08:27.200 Mm-hmm.
00:08:27.640 Romney didn't, he didn't pay his taxes.
00:08:29.560 Now it's out there.
00:08:30.680 That was a lie.
00:08:32.100 He knew it was a lie.
00:08:33.900 But he knew that the press would take it and run with it.
00:08:37.180 And it would get out there.
00:08:38.440 And it would poison the well.
00:08:41.560 Our president, Rafael Cruz, was involved in the plot to assassinate Kennedy.
00:08:46.840 What?
00:08:48.180 It was a lie?
00:08:49.100 He knew that it was a lie.
00:08:52.580 But it got into the press and poisons the well.
00:08:56.420 Kavanaugh, now, Stormy Daniels' attorney, is now saying that he was part of a rape gang.
00:09:01.600 Now it's to a rape gang.
00:09:03.260 He's part of a rape gang.
00:09:06.200 It's a lie.
00:09:08.920 But it'll get out.
00:09:10.480 And it'll destroy him.
00:09:11.740 This is not the first time that this has happened.
00:09:16.100 But I wanted to go back into history and see, how does this play out?
00:09:22.540 Eventually, how does this play out?
00:09:25.020 Well, if you go back in time, especially if you go back to the party politics, looking for the third president of the United States, who is going to be?
00:09:39.720 Who's going to be president?
00:09:41.060 Is it going to be Adams?
00:09:42.320 Or is it going to be Jefferson?
00:09:44.640 Now, Adams had already seen what the press can do and what pamphleteers could do.
00:09:49.500 And so he comes up with the Sedition Act, which is absolutely against everything that we ever said we were for in America when it comes to the press and freedom of speech.
00:10:01.100 But he had enough of people just lying in the press.
00:10:08.240 So there was a big turmoil.
00:10:10.920 And Jefferson thought that Adams had betrayed the republic and also because he thought he was going to go to war with France and he was going to start a foreign war.
00:10:26.960 And he wanted nothing to do with it.
00:10:28.920 So they become enemies.
00:10:31.640 These friends become enemies.
00:10:34.080 And during the election, the two of them start to lob charges against each other.
00:10:44.500 Jefferson, or at least the people around Jefferson, he never said this because he was above it.
00:10:50.060 But his campaign accused President Adams of having a, quote, a hideous, hermaphroditical character, which neither has the force or firmness of a man nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
00:11:03.580 So he calls Adams a hermaphrodite.
00:11:07.380 So what happens?
00:11:09.320 Adams, his team responds, well, Jefferson is a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw sired by a Virginia mulatto father.
00:11:23.920 So his mom is an Indian squaw, and his dad is half white and half black.
00:11:31.280 It went down from the, it ended with those guys, I think Adams made the claim that if Jefferson was going to be president, all of your daughters would be raped and there would be heads on pikes all the way down the streets.
00:11:45.340 That's where the story usually ends, right?
00:11:50.300 Even Martha Washington got involved in this.
00:11:54.360 She told a clergyman of Jefferson that Jefferson was one of the most detestable of all mankind.
00:12:02.080 So this is going back and forth.
00:12:05.760 And that's where we think the story ends.
00:12:08.420 But in trying to find out, how does this end, how have we corrected this course before?
00:12:21.160 Let me tell you a story you probably haven't heard.
00:12:24.720 There was a pamphleteer, his name was James Callender.
00:12:29.420 James Callender was a guy, he was Scottish, and he came in, and he was on the side of Jefferson, and he was a pamphleteer.
00:12:37.560 And he would pretty much say pretty much anything, like Adams is a hermaphrodite.
00:12:45.440 And he would print these things and pass them out.
00:12:49.580 Jefferson, of course, was far too good of a fellow to be involved in anything like that.
00:12:55.740 He wouldn't, I don't know, James Callender.
00:12:57.920 Oh, that's outrageous that you would say that.
00:13:00.500 The thought was at the time that Jefferson had hired Callender to say these things.
00:13:09.820 But of course, absolutely not.
00:13:13.580 1801, the Sedition Act.
00:13:17.760 Callender's thrown in jail.
00:13:19.860 He gets the stiffest penalty of any of the players of the press under John Adams.
00:13:25.800 He's fined $200, and he has to go to jail for six months.
00:13:31.680 So he goes, and he serves his jail time.
00:13:33.900 He pays his $200.
00:13:35.320 And when Jefferson becomes president, he pardons Callender.
00:13:40.700 Well, Callender wants to see him right away.
00:13:43.360 Because what about my $200?
00:13:45.920 And you, you know, I think you might owe me some money, too.
00:13:49.140 I mean, I haven't been able to work.
00:13:50.620 What about the $200 and, you know, some of, so what did he say about combat pay?
00:13:57.900 Jefferson pretends he doesn't know him.
00:14:01.000 Jefferson says, I, look, I pardon the guy.
00:14:03.560 That's, that's all he gets.
00:14:09.040 So then what happens?
00:14:13.320 Well, he says, look, Jefferson paid me to tell these stories.
00:14:20.620 He paid me.
00:14:23.460 Jefferson says, I didn't pay him.
00:14:25.240 He said, she said.
00:14:27.140 I didn't pay him.
00:14:28.120 Yes, he did.
00:14:29.040 No, I didn't.
00:14:29.580 Yes, he did.
00:14:30.100 No, I didn't.
00:14:30.520 Yes, he did.
00:14:32.760 Unfortunately for Jefferson, Callender had letters from Jefferson, including payments for the things he wanted him to say.
00:14:43.360 So all of a sudden, now Jefferson is exposed as this liar.
00:14:48.240 He releases the letter.
00:14:50.360 So what happens then?
00:14:52.880 Well, the people who support Jefferson, they won't have any of it.
00:14:56.880 And so they decide that they're going to start a new rumor.
00:15:00.760 And so the supporters of Jefferson, who are just trying to protect the president, the supporters start circulating the rumor that, that Callender actually is such a bad guy.
00:15:12.420 He's such bad character.
00:15:14.140 You can't believe a thing he says.
00:15:15.760 How do we even know those letters are true?
00:15:17.580 Because Callender is the kind of guy who abandoned his wife while she was dying of venereal disease.
00:15:27.100 Callender is outraged.
00:15:30.160 How dare you say that?
00:15:31.920 Well, is your wife alive?
00:15:33.680 No.
00:15:34.300 Didn't she die?
00:15:35.560 Yes.
00:15:36.040 Didn't she die of some horrible disease?
00:15:38.080 Yes.
00:15:38.660 But not venereal disease.
00:15:41.120 And I was with her every step of the way, unless I had to work.
00:15:45.400 She died of typhus, not venereal disease.
00:15:51.140 But because the supporters of Jefferson were so intent on getting, making sure they protected their political guy, Callender does something else.
00:16:01.780 Callender releases a rumor that Thomas Jefferson had been making babies with Sally Hemings.
00:16:15.880 Now, when that failed, when that failed to catch on at the time, he immediately switched the story and said, oh, he's been making babies.
00:16:31.100 He's been making passes.
00:16:32.440 He's been having an affair with his neighbor's wife.
00:16:35.660 So, how does this end?
00:16:43.620 This ends in history being changed.
00:16:48.460 This ends in some lies coming back to haunt, sometimes up to a century or two later, to continue to destroy and smear.
00:17:03.360 Now, people will say, well, the DNA evidence.
00:17:07.960 No, no.
00:17:09.240 No.
00:17:10.420 The DNA evidence did not prove that.
00:17:14.240 The DNA evidence proved that it was someone in the Jefferson family.
00:17:20.040 But where did Kavanaugh get that rumor?
00:17:23.320 He didn't make it up.
00:17:24.360 That rumor was published in a newspaper, in an op-ed, but it wasn't saying that Jefferson did it.
00:17:33.500 It was actually a smear to get people to not vote for Thomas Jefferson.
00:17:40.240 But the smear, originally, was something that apparently people knew in the area, that Thomas Jefferson's brother was a sot.
00:17:52.780 Thomas Jefferson's brother was not a good guy.
00:17:55.560 And Thomas Jefferson's brother was using the slaves as breeders.
00:18:01.660 The original rumor was not about Thomas Jefferson.
00:18:07.200 It was about his brother.
00:18:09.760 But perhaps that wasn't good enough for Callender.
00:18:14.020 He needed to build on that.
00:18:17.300 And that smear continues today.
00:18:19.740 So, before we all jump to our team jerseys, before we all say, I am absolutely positive,
00:18:28.480 let's just remember that how we behave and what we say and what we do can last centuries
00:18:37.940 and have ramifications that we have no idea are coming.
00:18:44.080 And maybe more importantly, remember that whatever we create, whatever this system of justice is,
00:18:52.660 our children are going to have to live under it.
00:18:57.420 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:19:05.900 Heather McDonald was on with us a couple of weeks ago, and I was running really late,
00:19:10.240 and we ran out of time, and I was really bummed, because she is, she's an amazing, amazing woman.
00:19:16.880 She has the best-selling book, War on Cops.
00:19:21.680 She is also with the Manhattan Institute, contributing editor for the City Journal.
00:19:26.140 She also has her roots in deconstruction and postmodernism.
00:19:30.920 She's the author of the book, The Diversity Delusion.
00:19:33.240 Heather McDonald, welcome back to the program.
00:19:34.960 How are you?
00:19:35.940 Well, thank you so much for having me on again, Glenn.
00:19:38.160 It's a real pleasure to talk to you.
00:19:39.420 So we were just getting into some good conversation, and we had to cut our conversation short last time.
00:19:44.220 Let me pick it up, because you've written some really fascinating things about Brett Kavanaugh.
00:19:52.040 Bring me up to speed and the audience up to speed on what your thoughts are on this whole mess.
00:19:59.360 Well, so far, Glenn, the conservative response has been a completely legitimate one,
00:20:05.480 which is to say that the timing of the charges brought against Kavanaugh are completely spurious,
00:20:14.540 shows that this is simply intended to scuttle the nomination as opposed to getting to the truth.
00:20:20.220 There have also been legitimate questions about the credibility of his accuser, Professor Ford,
00:20:28.740 pointing out that for somebody who's allegedly traumatized by this allegedly searing event,
00:20:38.120 she can't even remember what year it occurred, where the House was, that this party was,
00:20:43.860 where she was allegedly assaulted by Kavanaugh.
00:20:46.720 Those are very legitimate points to make.
00:20:50.080 But I think it ducks a more fundamental question, which is that even if it were true,
00:20:57.440 what she alleged, should that outweigh Kavanaugh's clear record in public service
00:21:05.780 and the three-and-a-half decades of life in which he has participated in the public sphere?
00:21:12.140 And I argue that it shouldn't.
00:21:14.460 And again, I'm just putting aside for a moment all the questions of credibility.
00:21:20.480 I think what we're seeing here is the fruition of the feminist mentality that reverses the order
00:21:29.760 of the realm of public action, public ideas, a civilization that is seen as too male,
00:21:39.320 and putting that below issues of eros and personal involvement.
00:21:47.020 As far as I'm concerned, let's take this out of the current Kavanaugh situation
00:21:52.980 and imagine a hypothetical from a liberal perspective.
00:21:57.480 One of the most liberal lions of the Supreme Court was William Brennan.
00:22:02.020 He massively expanded the welfare state, the defenses for criminal defendants.
00:22:11.300 If he had, as a 17-year-old, engaged in some boorish, adolescent, aggressive, alcohol-fueled male behavior,
00:22:22.040 would a liberal really say that that one unprecedented and unrepeated incident
00:22:28.700 should undercut a lifetime of contributions to the liberal exposition of the Constitution?
00:22:39.320 And I would imagine they would say that it shouldn't.
00:22:42.000 So, Heather, haven't we already decided this as a society, though?
00:22:48.160 Because we've already decided that if you are tried and convicted of even murder,
00:22:57.900 your records are sealed.
00:23:00.260 Because as long as you don't repeat it, what you do under 18
00:23:05.180 should not be held against you for the rest of your life.
00:23:10.040 So, I'm not saying that he's innocent or guilty.
00:23:12.880 I have no idea.
00:23:14.800 I don't know why we're even discussing it with the amount of evidence that we have.
00:23:19.740 But even if he is guilty of this,
00:23:24.060 societal laws come from us.
00:23:26.900 Society has already said, look, if you're under age,
00:23:31.340 we're not going to hold that against you as long as you've reformed.
00:23:36.860 Well, you know, there's some, if you've committed murder,
00:23:39.800 I think that you are going to be tried as an adult.
00:23:43.040 But you're clearly right, Glenn.
00:23:44.580 We do have different standards for juveniles.
00:23:48.020 And we are not, obviously, obeying the law here.
00:23:53.660 You know, the Senate Judiciary Committee is twisting itself into knots
00:23:57.620 to try and accommodate these last-minute accusations
00:24:01.300 that are being brought forward clearly to torpedo.
00:24:05.720 But even if that were not the case, if juvenile records were not sealed,
00:24:10.480 to me it is simply preposterous to think that a one-time incident
00:24:17.760 as a 17-year-old of aggressive sexual behavior
00:24:24.080 counts more in the life of a public figure,
00:24:30.620 a public intellectual who is involved in the world of ideas,
00:24:35.100 that that counts more than what his contributions have been as a federal judge.
00:24:42.080 And certainly, again, if we want to bring it back into a feminist perspective,
00:24:45.540 which I don't think is particularly relevant,
00:24:48.140 but if we want to say that a public figure's treatment of females
00:24:53.300 should be influential in how we evaluate his public career,
00:24:58.900 he has been a leader in the treatment of females as clerks,
00:25:05.100 he was the first judge to have an all-female class of clerks.
00:25:08.900 He's had a majority of clerks.
00:25:10.600 His female clerks have been unanimous in testifying to his character.
00:25:14.640 And when you're a clerk for a judge, that's not an easy gig.
00:25:18.860 I mean, it's pressure.
00:25:20.580 You're working together late at night.
00:25:23.140 I mean, if you are a dirtbag,
00:25:25.240 that's the kind of scenario where it comes out, is it not?
00:25:29.780 Absolutely.
00:25:30.440 You're working late nights.
00:25:31.540 This is the very domain where Eros comes into play.
00:25:35.100 There's plenty of room for sexual harassment,
00:25:39.080 if not actual sexual involvement.
00:25:41.420 And we have heard absolutely nothing.
00:25:43.520 If there had been any hint of this, it would have come out.
00:25:47.940 But, again, Glenn,
00:25:49.900 you seem to be moving towards conceding that,
00:25:54.360 in some situations, this might be relevant.
00:25:56.760 If it turned out, let's say, that James Madison,
00:25:59.680 one of our most important founding fathers,
00:26:03.600 who was one of the prime architects of the theory of the separation of powers,
00:26:09.200 one of the most important contributors to the Federalist Papers,
00:26:12.820 understanding how to try to restrain government power,
00:26:18.980 which was the big accomplishment of the slow patient evolution of constitutional thinking in Europe,
00:26:27.160 if it turned out that he was a skirt chaser,
00:26:30.440 that he had padded the butts of his domestics,
00:26:34.300 again, I argue that is not relevant to his contributions to public life.
00:26:40.660 And to say that it is,
00:26:42.920 to say that we should actually reconsider James Madison's contributions,
00:26:48.320 and this is a pure hypothetical.
00:26:50.080 Right.
00:26:50.340 I don't agree.
00:26:51.420 I do not agree that that takes away from his accomplishments.
00:26:57.160 However, we're looking at somebody in history,
00:26:59.880 and I don't think we can have revisionist history.
00:27:03.000 I mean, you know, okay, if that's who he was,
00:27:05.060 it's like Winston Churchill.
00:27:06.740 Winston Churchill, was he a good guy or a bad guy?
00:27:08.840 Well, if you lived in India, he was a really bad guy.
00:27:10.880 If you lived in Europe, he was a good guy.
00:27:12.280 So which is he?
00:27:12.940 He's both.
00:27:13.940 He's both.
00:27:14.500 We are both flawed and great at times as human beings.
00:27:20.260 So you just have to look at it on the balance.
00:27:22.720 You know, if Kavanaugh, let's say Kavanaugh did this,
00:27:29.340 I would look at this as something that happened in 1982,
00:27:34.420 and the next thing that I'd have to do is,
00:27:36.820 is there any evidence that he didn't learn from this?
00:27:40.980 If he is still doing it, if he was still doing it,
00:27:43.740 it would matter.
00:27:45.160 But there is no evidence,
00:27:47.160 not only at the two times now that they say,
00:27:50.220 because another one came out last night,
00:27:51.660 the two times there,
00:27:53.280 there doesn't seem to be any evidence at all,
00:27:56.460 but it also happened 35 years ago with nothing else.
00:28:01.860 The guy has lived an exemplary life.
00:28:08.380 Well, yeah.
00:28:09.640 And I guess I'm taking a very absolute out there position.
00:28:16.360 You're absolutely right.
00:28:17.640 I mean, this, this needs to be stated.
00:28:19.200 He has led an exemplary life.
00:28:21.820 He has been a champion for women's rights.
00:28:25.520 There is, apart from this completely groundless charge
00:28:29.360 that came out of the New Yorker,
00:28:30.740 which all of the people that were allegedly at the party deny,
00:28:34.900 where he was engaged in the typical drunken,
00:28:38.300 boorish hookup culture of, you know,
00:28:42.280 sexual drunken brawling.
00:28:43.980 Even so, I just think that we are,
00:28:47.900 the feminists are trying to take our civilization down, Glenn.
00:28:52.500 They are denying the realm of ideas and public action,
00:28:57.080 which has been male in the past,
00:28:59.400 and saying that the realm of eros,
00:29:02.160 which is a different realm which drives men and women insane,
00:29:06.640 is the realm of chthonic desire,
00:29:11.120 that that and women's sort of grudge matches about that
00:29:15.940 should have priority,
00:29:18.160 that we're reversing what I think is the order
00:29:22.320 for how civilization goes forward.
00:29:24.360 And if they win on this,
00:29:26.080 if they win on this,
00:29:27.560 the feminist war on what is perceived as male civilization
00:29:31.000 is going to become all the more extreme.
00:29:33.320 So, Heather, I want you to go,
00:29:35.460 we're going to take a quick break,
00:29:36.600 and then when you come back,
00:29:37.560 I want you to go and talk about something
00:29:40.180 that I read in one of your articles,
00:29:41.840 I think in the City Journal,
00:29:42.920 about how this event,
00:29:46.800 if it did indeed happen,
00:29:49.000 this event, this kind of thing,
00:29:51.740 is actually, you know,
00:29:54.580 something that was in a way spurred on
00:29:57.700 by the women's rights movement,
00:30:01.180 by this extreme death of chivalry
00:30:05.640 and, you know, death of all kind of moral standards.
00:30:10.000 I'd like you to go into that,
00:30:11.080 because I think that's fascinating.
00:30:12.520 We're talking to Heather McDonald about Brett Kavanaugh,
00:30:15.500 and Heather, you wrote in the City Journal,
00:30:19.500 you wrote an article called The Feminist Narcissism,
00:30:23.300 and you, right in the middle of it,
00:30:26.520 you said something remarkable,
00:30:28.580 that the most salient fact about this alleged episode
00:30:33.740 is not going to be discussed,
00:30:35.740 and you go in to say,
00:30:37.260 this is kind of what society was pushing, wasn't it?
00:30:43.340 Well, absolutely.
00:30:44.920 Sexual liberation was based on a complete lie,
00:30:49.700 which is that the male and female libidos
00:30:53.060 are identical,
00:30:54.980 that we could strip away the traditional methods
00:30:59.820 that civilization has developed
00:31:01.880 to tame and civilize the male libido thing,
00:31:07.540 the ideas of male chivalry,
00:31:10.340 respect for women,
00:31:13.400 gentlemanliness,
00:31:15.000 and on the female side,
00:31:17.160 the norms of female modesty,
00:31:19.260 prudence,
00:31:20.060 and ladylike behavior.
00:31:22.660 We could strip away those norms.
00:31:24.700 We could say that they're oppressive,
00:31:26.620 patriarchal,
00:31:28.140 sexist,
00:31:29.780 and women and men could meet
00:31:32.460 mano a mano
00:31:33.780 on the sexual battlefield,
00:31:36.060 and everything would be great.
00:31:38.100 And it turns out that's not the case.
00:31:41.140 What we have on college campuses today
00:31:43.600 is not an epidemic of rape,
00:31:46.140 Pace the feminist.
00:31:47.420 What we have is a drunken hookup culture
00:31:51.080 where males are now allowed
00:31:55.100 to act as boorishly as they want.
00:31:56.980 Females try to catch up.
00:31:59.100 They drink themselves blotto
00:32:00.700 precisely in order to reduce
00:32:03.980 their sexual inhibitions.
00:32:05.520 And there's a lot of drunken
00:32:08.440 one-night stands.
00:32:10.920 Males are biologically wired
00:32:13.540 to want as much sex
00:32:16.080 with as many different females
00:32:17.620 as possible.
00:32:19.540 Females have very different responses
00:32:21.800 to sexual intercourse,
00:32:23.280 biologically, hormonally.
00:32:25.320 They develop feelings of intimacy
00:32:28.100 and a yearning for connectedness afterwards.
00:32:32.220 And what happens
00:32:34.200 on these college campuses
00:32:35.420 after these drunken hookups,
00:32:37.620 sometimes the females feel abandoned
00:32:39.940 or they can keep up
00:32:43.380 having sex with a guy
00:32:44.820 and trying to seduce him for months
00:32:47.240 and then decide
00:32:47.960 after having fallen to the grips
00:32:50.680 of the Title IX bureaucracy
00:32:52.220 and the campus rape
00:32:53.360 massive administrative industry
00:32:58.740 on a college campus,
00:33:00.520 they retrospectively reclassify
00:33:02.800 their experience as rape
00:33:04.260 even though they don't even
00:33:08.100 usually report it
00:33:09.460 and it was largely voluntary.
00:33:12.880 But what's going on now
00:33:14.180 on college campuses
00:33:15.300 and the New Yorker story
00:33:17.940 about the party that Yale Kavanaugh
00:33:21.360 was allegedly at
00:33:22.300 is a perfect demonstration
00:33:24.580 of what's going on.
00:33:25.700 Is sexual liberation
00:33:27.020 having a nervous breakdown?
00:33:28.700 And now you have
00:33:33.120 this bizarre situation
00:33:34.800 on college campuses
00:33:36.140 where virtually the same students
00:33:39.120 who 30, 40 years ago
00:33:41.060 said to the adults,
00:33:42.680 get out of our bedrooms,
00:33:44.260 no more oversight
00:33:45.940 from the college administrators,
00:33:47.700 no more in loco parentis rules.
00:33:49.440 We can handle this ourselves.
00:33:50.760 Now you have students
00:33:53.460 asking the adult administrators
00:33:57.120 to write rules for sex.
00:34:00.540 Are you kidding me?
00:34:02.140 Then these rules,
00:34:03.300 these affirmative consent rules
00:34:04.500 look like something you'd see
00:34:05.640 for buying a used car
00:34:07.700 or a mortgage contract
00:34:09.340 for something that is
00:34:10.960 the very realm
00:34:12.440 of the inarticulate,
00:34:14.580 the ambiguous,
00:34:15.880 the fraught,
00:34:16.700 the chthonic.
00:34:17.440 And it is a very,
00:34:20.040 very strange turn of events.
00:34:22.100 And it results from the fact
00:34:23.760 that we have denied
00:34:25.660 the natural differences
00:34:27.500 between the sexes,
00:34:29.240 but the feminists
00:34:30.600 are not willing to say
00:34:31.900 sexual revolution
00:34:33.040 was a mistake.
00:34:34.980 They want to preserve
00:34:36.240 the prerogative
00:34:37.180 of maximal promiscuity
00:34:38.980 for girls.
00:34:40.360 And so they're responding
00:34:41.580 with this bizarre
00:34:42.940 legalistic response.
00:34:45.520 And the next step
00:34:47.260 clearly is having
00:34:48.440 a college dean
00:34:49.860 present for every
00:34:51.800 drunken coital coupling
00:34:54.920 that goes on
00:34:55.980 in a student dorm
00:34:57.460 so that afterwards
00:34:58.700 when this comes
00:34:59.540 before the extraordinarily
00:35:01.700 inadequate
00:35:03.120 but bizarrely complicated
00:35:05.820 sexual assault
00:35:07.840 tribunal situations
00:35:09.400 that there can be
00:35:11.140 more third-party evidence.
00:35:13.380 But this is,
00:35:15.160 we are reaping
00:35:16.020 what we sowed
00:35:16.940 in the 1960s.
00:35:18.220 I find it amazing
00:35:19.800 that, you know,
00:35:20.900 what you just outlined
00:35:21.980 was the death
00:35:24.040 of the chaperone
00:35:25.020 because we know
00:35:27.120 human nature
00:35:27.900 is human nature.
00:35:29.300 And so get rid
00:35:30.540 of the chaperone,
00:35:31.440 get rid of everybody,
00:35:32.720 then things,
00:35:34.680 you know,
00:35:35.060 take the course
00:35:35.800 of human nature
00:35:36.660 and now we're back
00:35:38.140 to more of
00:35:39.080 a legalistic chaperone.
00:35:41.200 I mean,
00:35:41.520 it's insane.
00:35:43.040 We've made
00:35:43.760 a return journey
00:35:44.880 except now
00:35:46.320 it's really oppressive
00:35:48.140 and quite frightening
00:35:49.360 for everybody involved.
00:35:51.620 That's absolutely right.
00:35:52.660 And the other thing
00:35:53.320 that we did, Glenn,
00:35:54.620 we used to have
00:35:56.100 the default
00:35:56.920 for premarital sex
00:35:58.460 at no.
00:35:59.940 And it was not
00:36:01.600 ironclad.
00:36:03.020 Obviously,
00:36:03.460 there were plenty
00:36:04.360 of females
00:36:05.080 who opted out
00:36:06.120 of that default
00:36:07.160 in college
00:36:08.340 or elsewhere,
00:36:08.920 but that no
00:36:10.200 gave them power.
00:36:11.540 It meant that
00:36:13.000 when they were
00:36:13.660 forced with
00:36:14.480 an importuning male
00:36:16.260 with a surging
00:36:18.300 hormones
00:36:18.960 that a no
00:36:20.600 did not have
00:36:21.380 to be negotiated
00:36:22.440 in media race.
00:36:24.260 It was assumed
00:36:25.420 and the male
00:36:26.360 had to persuade
00:36:27.820 the female
00:36:28.660 to opt out
00:36:29.340 of the no.
00:36:30.180 The sexual liberation
00:36:31.520 reversed that default.
00:36:33.740 now the default
00:36:35.620 for premarital sex
00:36:36.920 on college
00:36:37.540 and elsewhere
00:36:38.020 is yes.
00:36:39.880 And females
00:36:40.660 have to negotiate
00:36:41.960 a no.
00:36:43.600 And what they find,
00:36:45.200 you have even
00:36:45.920 the New York Times
00:36:46.860 is newly formed
00:36:48.060 gender editor.
00:36:49.760 The Times
00:36:50.240 is so far
00:36:51.260 into pursuing
00:36:54.020 the left-wing
00:36:55.080 feminist revolution
00:36:55.940 that they now
00:36:56.520 have an entire bureau
00:36:58.080 devoted to
00:36:59.460 covering alleged
00:37:01.460 gender and patriarchy issues.
00:37:03.300 she wrote an op-ed
00:37:04.740 describing sex
00:37:06.260 she had as a 19-year-old
00:37:07.780 with an older man
00:37:09.020 that she admits
00:37:10.620 was actually
00:37:11.860 not coercive,
00:37:13.660 but she didn't
00:37:14.800 really want
00:37:15.660 to have sex.
00:37:17.100 But she went along
00:37:18.220 with it
00:37:19.760 because it was
00:37:20.420 too hard
00:37:21.440 to bargain
00:37:22.380 and know
00:37:22.820 out of the situation.
00:37:23.820 You're listening
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00:37:52.480 Thanks.
00:37:52.780 So tell me about
00:37:53.740 the Beto debate.
00:37:55.480 It happened on Friday.
00:37:56.900 Yeah.
00:37:57.620 Beto and Ted Cruz
00:37:59.700 were debating.
00:38:01.720 Give me some
00:38:02.100 of the highlights.
00:38:04.020 Some of the highlights
00:38:05.020 to me were
00:38:05.740 Cruz hitting Beto
00:38:07.920 on his stance
00:38:09.120 on police
00:38:09.640 because he's so
00:38:10.500 supportive
00:38:11.060 of the kneeling
00:38:14.580 at the NFL
00:38:15.540 football games
00:38:16.520 and what that
00:38:18.120 supposedly represents.
00:38:19.620 Right, right, right.
00:38:20.120 So Cruz was kind
00:38:21.480 of hitting him
00:38:22.060 on those
00:38:22.400 because there's
00:38:24.200 not too many things
00:38:25.020 more anti-Texan
00:38:26.460 than going after
00:38:27.180 police or the military
00:38:28.620 and Beto seems
00:38:30.400 to do that
00:38:30.900 on a pretty
00:38:31.360 regular basis.
00:38:32.620 So this clip
00:38:34.220 is Cruz
00:38:35.360 talking about
00:38:36.000 how offensive
00:38:36.880 Beto has been
00:38:38.160 with his police comments.
00:38:39.640 Let me say right now,
00:38:40.900 I think it is
00:38:41.840 offensive
00:38:42.460 to call police
00:38:43.880 officers
00:38:44.440 modern-day
00:38:45.260 Jim Crow.
00:38:46.220 That is not
00:38:47.400 Texas.
00:38:48.060 That's your time,
00:38:49.420 Senator.
00:38:51.620 Please,
00:38:52.260 please,
00:38:52.560 audience,
00:38:53.040 please.
00:38:53.640 No applause.
00:38:55.520 What Senator Cruz
00:38:56.500 said is simply
00:38:57.500 untrue.
00:38:58.140 I did not call
00:38:58.740 police officers
00:38:59.620 modern-day
00:39:00.660 Jim Crow.
00:39:01.940 And I,
00:39:02.800 as well as
00:39:03.460 Senator Cruz
00:39:03.900 and everyone here,
00:39:05.020 mourn the passing
00:39:05.820 of Officer Hull
00:39:07.080 in Fort Worth.
00:39:08.500 My Uncle Raymond
00:39:09.540 was a sheriff's deputy
00:39:11.000 in El Paso.
00:39:12.000 In fact,
00:39:12.260 he was the captain
00:39:12.860 of the El Paso
00:39:13.940 County Jail.
00:39:14.820 He's the one who,
00:39:15.500 with the tragic
00:39:16.200 shooting death
00:39:17.180 of Botham Jean,
00:39:19.760 you have another
00:39:20.760 unarmed black man
00:39:22.160 killed in this country
00:39:23.580 by law enforcement.
00:39:24.840 Now,
00:39:24.940 no member of law enforcement
00:39:26.160 wants that to happen,
00:39:27.160 no member of this
00:39:28.180 community wants that
00:39:29.000 to happen,
00:39:29.440 but we've got to do
00:39:30.140 something better
00:39:30.780 than what we've been
00:39:31.700 doing so far.
00:39:32.460 If African Americans
00:39:33.300 represent 13%
00:39:35.100 of the population
00:39:36.440 in this country,
00:39:37.300 that they represent
00:39:37.960 one-third of those
00:39:39.380 who are shot
00:39:40.000 by law enforcement,
00:39:40.840 we have something wrong.
00:39:41.800 If we have the largest
00:39:42.780 prison population
00:39:43.700 on the face of the planet
00:39:45.260 and it is disproportionately
00:39:46.340 comprised of people
00:39:47.880 of color,
00:39:48.340 we have something wrong
00:39:49.480 in this country.
00:39:50.380 Republicans and Democrats
00:39:51.420 should be able
00:39:52.360 to work together
00:39:53.180 with...
00:39:53.560 How would you fix it?
00:39:54.320 Notice he doesn't say
00:39:56.400 blacks in prison,
00:39:57.320 he says people of color.
00:39:58.700 Yeah.
00:39:59.020 Because a new study
00:40:00.000 came out and showed
00:40:00.940 this weekend
00:40:01.460 that our prisons
00:40:04.040 are made up
00:40:06.220 a great deal
00:40:07.440 by illegal immigrants.
00:40:10.380 Yes.
00:40:11.040 Yes.
00:40:11.380 Hispanic illegal immigrants.
00:40:13.300 Right.
00:40:14.020 Not Irish,
00:40:15.100 like Beto.
00:40:15.760 Not Irish.
00:40:16.960 So,
00:40:17.260 yeah,
00:40:17.720 so you have to say
00:40:18.640 people of color
00:40:19.360 if you want your,
00:40:20.400 if you want a comment
00:40:21.320 like that to be
00:40:22.140 anywhere close to accurate.
00:40:23.240 So,
00:40:23.620 did he say?
00:40:24.820 He said he,
00:40:26.220 in the context
00:40:27.040 of what he was saying,
00:40:27.840 he kind of said that.
00:40:29.860 But of course,
00:40:30.680 he denies that he was
00:40:32.020 talking about the police.
00:40:33.320 But everybody knows
00:40:34.600 when you,
00:40:34.980 when you look at the,
00:40:35.860 at,
00:40:36.260 at his statement
00:40:36.960 in context,
00:40:37.900 yeah,
00:40:38.080 he kind of did
00:40:39.060 compare the police
00:40:40.760 to Jim Crow laws
00:40:41.780 and talked about how
00:40:43.180 we're still going
00:40:44.180 through Jim Crow today.
00:40:45.320 It's just as bad today
00:40:46.720 as it was back
00:40:48.560 in the Jim Crow days.
00:40:49.400 It's so offensive
00:40:50.620 to say
00:40:51.620 to,
00:40:52.700 to police,
00:40:53.640 but also to the
00:40:54.760 African-American community.
00:40:56.020 That,
00:40:56.400 that's,
00:40:56.980 that is not true.
00:40:58.580 Not at all.
00:40:59.120 To compare what people
00:41:00.400 are going through today,
00:41:02.300 even in the worst sections,
00:41:03.820 to compare it
00:41:05.160 to today,
00:41:06.180 to the 1940s
00:41:08.340 or 30s,
00:41:09.740 Jim Crow laws,
00:41:11.020 even the 50s or 60s,
00:41:12.200 it's not even close.
00:41:14.120 Yeah,
00:41:14.200 and that's kind of
00:41:15.180 what Cruz was saying,
00:41:16.500 told Beto in this,
00:41:18.000 in this clip,
00:41:18.640 how irresponsible it is
00:41:20.540 that he's saying
00:41:21.060 that about police.
00:41:22.080 I believe everyone's rights
00:41:23.300 should be protected
00:41:24.300 regardless of your race,
00:41:25.640 regardless of your ethnicity,
00:41:26.760 but I'll tell you something.
00:41:29.200 I've been to too many
00:41:30.500 police funerals.
00:41:33.140 I was here in Dallas
00:41:34.440 when five police officers
00:41:35.780 were gunned down
00:41:36.780 because of irresponsible
00:41:38.980 and hateful rhetoric.
00:41:40.940 I was at the funeral
00:41:42.120 in Houston
00:41:42.620 at Second Baptist Church
00:41:43.720 where Deputy Goforth
00:41:44.700 had been shot
00:41:45.680 in the back of the head
00:41:46.740 at a service station
00:41:48.060 because of irresponsible
00:41:49.880 and hateful rhetoric.
00:41:50.920 Just now,
00:41:51.380 Congressman O'Rourke
00:41:52.140 repeated things
00:41:53.100 he knows aren't true.
00:41:54.360 He stated,
00:41:55.020 for example,
00:41:55.680 white police officers
00:41:56.700 are shooting
00:41:57.240 unarmed African-American children.
00:41:59.540 The Washington Post
00:42:00.520 fact-checked that claim
00:42:01.840 and concluded
00:42:02.840 Congressman O'Rourke
00:42:03.620 was wrong,
00:42:04.420 but I'll tell you something,
00:42:05.740 that rhetoric does damage.
00:42:07.260 That rhetoric divides us
00:42:08.820 on race,
00:42:09.360 it inflames hatred.
00:42:10.660 We should be bringing
00:42:11.580 people together.
00:42:12.520 So here's the problem.
00:42:14.840 You can hear it
00:42:15.640 between the two of them.
00:42:17.800 If you're just looking
00:42:18.980 for a guy you like,
00:42:21.100 Beto's likable.
00:42:23.180 He just seems likable.
00:42:25.040 Yeah.
00:42:25.320 When you listen to Ted,
00:42:26.560 he sounds like
00:42:27.900 he's a politician.
00:42:29.620 That's the problem
00:42:30.720 with Ted Cruz,
00:42:31.380 has been the problem
00:42:32.160 with Ted Cruz
00:42:32.760 for a while.
00:42:33.560 I hope to God
00:42:34.760 we are not the society
00:42:36.820 in Texas,
00:42:37.980 at least,
00:42:38.960 that is doing
00:42:39.900 a personality.
00:42:41.020 Well,
00:42:41.200 I just like him.
00:42:42.000 I don't know.
00:42:42.660 He's just kind of,
00:42:43.380 he just,
00:42:43.920 he sounds like me.
00:42:45.920 I don't care
00:42:46.800 if they sound like me.
00:42:47.780 I know.
00:42:48.880 I know.
00:42:49.500 We're looking for somebody
00:42:50.680 who will get things done
00:42:52.740 in Washington
00:42:53.340 that we want them to do.
00:42:54.640 We're looking for people
00:42:55.640 who share our principles
00:42:56.720 and values.
00:42:57.060 I'm looking for somebody
00:42:57.720 to stand by the Constitution.
00:42:58.880 Yeah, please.
00:42:59.500 That's all I want.
00:43:00.020 That would be nice.
00:43:00.780 And Ted Cruz does that,
00:43:02.440 and we all know it.
00:43:03.940 Even the Houston Chronicle,
00:43:05.840 though,
00:43:06.040 said that Cruz won this debate.
00:43:09.180 Now,
00:43:09.380 they kind of claim
00:43:10.500 that Beto was more likable,
00:43:12.380 just as you just said,
00:43:13.720 but Cruz drew more blood,
00:43:15.800 as they put it.
00:43:16.900 In this knife fight,
00:43:18.000 Cruz drew more blood.
00:43:20.700 And there's a,
00:43:21.620 we've got one other clip here
00:43:22.860 about Beto talking about
00:43:24.360 the unarmed black men.
00:43:25.580 The tragic shooting death
00:43:27.280 of Botham Jean.
00:43:29.860 You have another unarmed black man
00:43:32.260 killed in this country
00:43:33.680 by law enforcement.
00:43:34.860 Now, no member of law enforcement
00:43:36.240 wants that to happen.
00:43:37.280 No member of this community
00:43:38.580 wants that to happen,
00:43:39.480 but we've got to do something better
00:43:40.880 than what we've been doing so far.
00:43:42.560 If African Americans represent
00:43:43.940 13% of the population
00:43:46.540 in this country,
00:43:47.400 that they represent
00:43:48.020 one-third of those
00:43:49.480 who are shot by law enforcement,
00:43:50.920 we have something wrong.
00:43:51.960 If we have the largest
00:43:52.880 prison population
00:43:53.820 on the face of the...
00:43:55.080 So here's the amazing thing.
00:43:57.500 That wasn't an act
00:43:58.320 of law enforcement.
00:43:59.940 It wasn't.
00:44:01.160 That was a woman
00:44:01.780 who happened to work
00:44:02.580 as a police officer
00:44:03.620 coming home,
00:44:04.480 being in the wrong place
00:44:05.720 and shooting somebody.
00:44:07.400 It's a strange story.
00:44:08.560 It is a strange story.
00:44:09.660 It's a bad story.
00:44:10.760 I don't think it looks good for her.
00:44:12.780 She's also been charged
00:44:13.660 with manslaughter.
00:44:14.500 Right.
00:44:15.100 So it's not like
00:44:16.180 she's getting away with it.
00:44:17.360 She's not getting away with it.
00:44:18.560 Right.
00:44:18.780 And it was not
00:44:19.560 in her daily job.
00:44:22.740 I don't know
00:44:23.440 what happened to her.
00:44:25.180 I don't know
00:44:25.560 what was going on
00:44:26.340 in her mind
00:44:27.040 at that time.
00:44:27.660 She walks into
00:44:29.120 an apartment
00:44:30.820 she thinks is her.
00:44:32.580 There's some guy
00:44:33.540 she says,
00:44:34.580 you know,
00:44:35.040 stop talking,
00:44:36.160 stop moving around.
00:44:36.880 What are you doing?
00:44:37.880 She pulls out her gun
00:44:38.760 and shoots him.
00:44:39.560 That's horrible.
00:44:42.200 Horrible.
00:44:42.980 For anybody.
00:44:45.300 But she wasn't acting
00:44:46.240 as a police officer.
00:44:47.680 She was acting
00:44:48.300 as a citizen
00:44:49.340 at that point.
00:44:50.460 and
00:44:51.540 and she was wrong
00:44:53.800 and she should go to jail.
00:44:55.860 I mean,
00:44:56.240 just based on what I hear,
00:44:58.160 it does sound like manslaughter.
00:45:01.020 So she's being charged
00:45:02.780 with manslaughter.
00:45:04.000 What else should we be doing?
00:45:06.500 That's exactly
00:45:07.540 what should be happening.
00:45:14.480 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:45:20.460 You know,
00:45:29.940 over the weekend,
00:45:30.500 you tweeted out
00:45:31.080 a legitimate question
00:45:32.140 to Alyssa Milano.
00:45:35.660 You asked her
00:45:36.640 a genuine question.
00:45:37.700 Yeah.
00:45:38.160 And she came back
00:45:39.480 with nothing but snarkiness.
00:45:40.800 They just,
00:45:41.300 it can't.
00:45:41.880 Well,
00:45:42.200 here's what,
00:45:42.920 so she had posted something
00:45:45.280 along the lines that,
00:45:47.340 let me see,
00:45:47.680 here it is.
00:45:49.420 Let me see if I can go
00:45:50.380 back to her original tweet.
00:45:53.020 Because wasn't she,
00:45:53.940 it was about the Kavanaugh thing,
00:45:55.740 right?
00:45:56.180 Yeah.
00:45:56.480 And she said,
00:45:57.220 you know,
00:45:57.860 She fully believes him.
00:45:59.200 I fully believe him.
00:46:00.340 The accuser.
00:46:01.240 Right.
00:46:01.480 I fully believe her.
00:46:02.720 I fully believe her.
00:46:03.640 Yeah.
00:46:03.980 And so I tweeted.
00:46:04.900 Why?
00:46:05.280 I ask this with all sincerity
00:46:07.120 and do not wish to fight
00:46:08.520 as I do want the bad guys
00:46:10.300 to go to jail
00:46:11.020 and my daughters
00:46:11.700 never to face this.
00:46:13.240 But I don't want my son
00:46:15.020 or my daughters
00:46:15.800 to live in a world
00:46:16.600 without reason or evidence.
00:46:18.760 That world
00:46:19.500 is why many innocent blacks
00:46:21.200 have gone to prison.
00:46:23.000 That's great.
00:46:23.980 Reasonable.
00:46:24.520 What's wrong with that?
00:46:25.120 Yeah.
00:46:25.540 So she writes,
00:46:27.000 so Glenn Beck,
00:46:27.960 you want prison reform
00:46:29.080 and an FBI investigation
00:46:30.640 of Kavanaugh
00:46:31.360 starting to sound
00:46:32.480 like a progressive.
00:46:33.480 Welcome to the resistance.
00:46:34.940 No,
00:46:35.660 no,
00:46:35.900 that's not what I said.
00:46:36.960 And you didn't answer
00:46:37.640 the question.
00:46:38.200 So I wrote back,
00:46:41.020 why respond to a sincere inquiry
00:46:44.020 with a red meat response?
00:46:46.580 I do think prison reform
00:46:48.140 is needed
00:46:48.680 and I have for many years.
00:46:50.480 Please respond sincerely.
00:46:52.440 I am for,
00:46:53.740 I should say,
00:46:54.820 I am neither for
00:46:56.120 or against Kavanaugh.
00:46:57.960 I am for truth,
00:46:59.860 justice,
00:47:00.740 and decency.
00:47:02.120 If the roles would reverse,
00:47:04.720 would your position
00:47:06.080 reverse as well?
00:47:07.020 The roles have reversed.
00:47:08.400 We've got
00:47:09.000 a clear indication
00:47:11.120 of that already
00:47:11.720 with Keith Ellison.
00:47:12.700 They don't,
00:47:13.380 they don't believe anything
00:47:14.500 that the accuser says.
00:47:15.740 Five percent of Democrats
00:47:17.200 believe the accuser
00:47:18.460 in the case of Keith Ellison.
00:47:20.040 Why?
00:47:20.540 Because he's a Democrat.
00:47:22.180 Brett Kavanaugh
00:47:22.860 is a Republican,
00:47:23.720 so they wholeheartedly
00:47:25.020 believe his accuser.
00:47:26.180 But she has,
00:47:27.320 when it comes to Keith Ellison,
00:47:29.100 she has evidence.
00:47:30.580 Yeah.
00:47:30.920 She has witnesses.
00:47:32.400 She has people that-
00:47:33.200 That have corroborated
00:47:33.840 what she has said.
00:47:34.760 Correct.
00:47:35.120 She has her,
00:47:36.140 I think it's her son
00:47:37.340 that has corroborated it.
00:47:38.960 She has text messages.
00:47:40.520 She has emails.
00:47:41.980 She has a video.
00:47:43.700 She has all of it.
00:47:44.840 Yeah.
00:47:45.560 And-
00:47:46.000 But they don't believe her at all.
00:47:47.620 They don't believe her
00:47:48.380 and these two accusers
00:47:49.300 have nothing.
00:47:51.120 I mean,
00:47:51.620 it's just,
00:47:52.240 it's-
00:47:52.520 It's amazing.
00:47:53.060 It's really hard
00:47:54.140 to stay calm,
00:47:55.160 but we have to be the reasonable ones
00:48:00.040 where the others
00:48:01.480 who are starting to wake up
00:48:03.300 say,
00:48:04.160 I don't want to be with those people
00:48:05.320 because those people are jerks.
00:48:08.040 Those people don't make any sense.
00:48:09.860 They're mean.
00:48:10.980 They're angry.
00:48:12.400 I want to be over with these people.
00:48:14.000 And I don't know how many people
00:48:16.200 we can get.
00:48:16.820 But if you don't,
00:48:19.940 if we don't start to develop a group
00:48:23.860 where decent people can gather,
00:48:27.600 be safe from all of this insanity,
00:48:30.320 not slash each other's throat,
00:48:32.340 not be about vindictiveness and venom,
00:48:35.320 but be about reason and truth and science,
00:48:38.780 if we can be those people,
00:48:41.560 we're the ones who remain standing
00:48:44.060 because the other two sides
00:48:45.700 will kill each other.
00:48:47.540 They'll kill each other.
00:48:49.340 And we will be the place
00:48:50.660 that everyone will run to.
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