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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Pat Gray and Stu Bergere to discuss the latest on the disappearance of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and the fallout from it. They also talk about Ted Cruz and Beto Ocasio-Cortez.
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Glennbeck.com slash tour is the place to go for it.
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Today on the podcast, we are talking about Saudi Arabia.
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We have new details on that and how that is going down.
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Getting closer and closer to some sort of conclusion,
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but it's still one of the strangest stories I think I can remember
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We also have some odd inconsistencies in the Me Too movie that we noticed.
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And we go through some false accusations and some very real ones
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that have been completely eliminated by the left.
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They seem to remember what they want to remember.
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And we talk about some new stuff with Ted Cruz and Beto in Texas
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Chewing the Fat with Jeffy is not a commentary on his weight.
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I guess the word fat is the same as if you were calling someone overweight,
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But you can subscribe to not only the Pat Gray Unleashed podcast right now,
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he gave us some food updates that you may want to know about.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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I mean, you've seen the physical transformation.
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Oh, he's been training for this for, I don't know how long.
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Like, you know, sometimes I'll have a meal that's a little bit off,
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And you see that Glenn does not do those things anymore.
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So I feel like his time is going to be pretty solid.
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and maybe you have some questions like we do on this Saudi Arabian killing.
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I, you know, I don't know why we haven't nuked Riyadh yet.
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So usually when that happens, we've destroyed the country by now.
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You just willy-nilly start launching missiles at it.
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The criticism, the main criticism of Donald Trump,
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I mean, look, it, to me, sure looks like something really bad.
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But again, all of this comes from Turkish sources.
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Turkish sources with an incentive to make Saudi Arabia look as bad as possible.
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or at least our intelligence services have the evidence,
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it's hard to jump to a conclusion and do anything drastic.
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And the criticism that is coming in of Trump is he's saying,
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well, look, we need, we've asked for the video.
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We've asked for the audio that supposedly exists,
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that's been described in media reports, but we don't have it yet.
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We sent Mike Pompeo over there to talk to them about it.
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I mean, you, I think the same people who we heard for years and years and years and years,
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we did not do enough research in to figure out if there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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And including Donald Trump, by the way, who was, who was leading that at the time,
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or at least commenting publicly very, a lot on it.
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But now we're hearing from the same media people that we should be jumping immediately to,
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we absolutely know what happened and how come we haven't punished Saudi Arabia yet.
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And I think that that's been the transformation of, of the news is that everything now is seen through a Trump prism.
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And clearly, you know, the Saudi Arabian explanations have been suspect.
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There's no, first of all, they didn't know anything about it.
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Well, we never saw him leave out the front door.
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We killed him accidentally during an interrogation gone bad.
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Though I will say even that is a report from CNN about what they're going to announce.
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They have not come out and said that that's true.
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That is a report from sources to CNN who said they will be coming out to do it or they're
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considering doing that, but they haven't done it yet.
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And how do you kill a guy during an interrogation gone bad?
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I meant to ask you what you were doing last Thursday and instead cut your head open with
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You know how many times I have fallen with my bone saw and sawed up someone into tiny little
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Well, you don't keep track of every single time something like that happens.
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I mean, but this is why I subscribe to a suitcase delivery service that drops off, you know,
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So you can put the parts in the suitcase and then deliver it to a private plane that takes
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Do I occasionally fall on one or two individuals?
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And did your mom probably suggest, Stu, don't be running around the house with a bone saw?
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You know, we grow up, we get responsibility for our lives and you start making decisions
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And my decision is I'm going to carry my bone saw around.
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At least I'm going through the right steps of cutting them up into little pieces and
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That's all you can do is clean up the mess afterward.
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And it's interesting too that the media is making a big deal out of every single time
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they talk about this guy, they talk about him as if he's an American because they always
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I think he just, he contributed to the Washington Post.
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Was he actually, is he actually a staff member of the Washington Post?
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And it's relatively new because he had left, there was a lot of problems over there.
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He realized he might be on the wrong side of whatever internal craziness was going on
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And, you know, critics of Saudi Arabia, I think have a, first of all, a place in the
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Like, I mean, I think it's important that we are able to air those things.
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But also, you know, there's a lot of opposition to them and people don't, I mean, you know,
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remember Saudi Arabia was like the main accusation made by Michael Moore in Fahrenheit, was it
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He's made like, he's tried to capitalize over that so many times.
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But Fahrenheit 9-11, the first one, the biggest political documentary of all time.
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But in that was just a giant conspiracy theory about how the Bushes knew this guy like 50
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years ago and he's working with this and they're working with this group that's working with
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the Saudis and it was all about defending the Saudis.
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And that's why, you know, you don't know the truth about 9-11.
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So this is not a new accusation when it comes to Republicans working with Saudi Arabia.
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But, you know, every president has worked with them for a very long time.
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And it's something that we've been critical about for a long time.
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So it's not just Trump who's been friendly, I guess, with Saudi Arabia.
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Certainly Bush was always, always accused of that, being too friendly with Saudi Arabia.
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But Barack Obama was plenty friendly with him, too.
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And there is no way that Barack Obama would have done anything severe to Saudi Arabia by
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And it shows the problem with 90% of the media coverage today.
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The difference there is that they perceive Barack Obama as this intellectual, deep thinker
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I mean, remember, I'm bringing up Fahrenheit 9-11 again.
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One of the other big criticisms of this was Bush was in a school when he found out about 9-11.
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And he sat there and he let the kids finish the book.
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And then it took the call and it took him like nine minutes before he walked out of the room.
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And they showed a large chunk of it and it was a big deal at the time.
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But they saw Bush as this bad guy who was incompetent.
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Barack Obama waited, what was it, 78 days when he knew where Osama bin Laden was before he did anything?
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And he was universally praised for this decision.
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It was the most difficult decision in 500 years.
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It was the toughest decision made since Charlemagne.
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To go get the worst criminal on earth is a tough decision in the minds of people who want to praise Barack Obama.
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It's a decision, by the way, we made on about 9-12-2001 to kill the guy.
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You know, tens of thousands of military members signed up just to do that.
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I mean, yes, of course there was risk in a mission like that.
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You talk to any military member, especially people who were serving at that time, and they'll tell you that was basically the reason they got into it.
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I mean, you know, a lot of people got in just to hopefully get the opportunity to take that shot.
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He was a deep thinker that was just considering all these options and weighing all these impossible choices.
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And he finally came to the conclusion to go and act on this.
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You know, the fact that Trump is going out there and saying, wait a minute, let's hold on a second.
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Let's investigate this before we act irrationally.
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If Barack Obama was doing that, it would be seen as he's a deep thinker.
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And it's all about Saudi Arabia because Jared Kushner likes Saudi Arabia or something.
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It's just that, you know, the overwhelming problem is that everybody seems to see everything through the lens of this one individual on our planet.
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They just are completely obsessed with Donald Trump.
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I think as a person who's a small government guy, I don't want the president to have that much of a role in our lives.
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Just fundamentally, whether it's Barack Obama or Donald Trump.
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But, you know, CNN, I think they've made a decision, and MSNBC is certainly on this board and pretty much every other media source, is that this is what we do.
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All we do is talk about every issue and how it relates to Donald Trump.
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This is a man who was murdered, potentially cut up into little pieces, maybe by a mistake of falling with your bone saw, but something happened there.
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And all we can talk about is why Donald Trump is acting the way he's acting.
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Maybe that's the story you run in three weeks when you're looking back at this incident.
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But, like, isn't the story now much more about the details of the incident and what happened?
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Chicago Tribune is reporting the United States just received a payment of $100 million from Saudi Arabia.
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Actually, we got it on Tuesday, the same day Secretary of State Mike Pompeo arrived in Riyadh to discuss the disappearance of Khashoggi.
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Saudi Arabia publicly pledged the payment to support U.S. stabilization efforts in northeastern Syria.
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So I'm sure that this will be twisted into, oh, we're not doing anything to them because they just paid us $100 million.
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They send us a lot of money and we send them stuff.
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That's kind of, I mean, look, that is, it's not completely insignificant to the relationship, right?
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And that is why when you're making a decision as the President of the United States, your decision is not solely based on, you know, what the media wants you to do, right?
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If what the idea, at the end of the day, if American interests are harmed long term by a decision you might make, you have to take that into consideration.
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Your top priority is not adjudicating murderers in Turkey, right?
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Like, I don't know if anybody knows this, but a lot of countries that we're dealing with are murdering people all the time.
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You know, how often do we hear that we should talk to North Korea before, now that Trump is doing it, no one wants them to talk to North Korea anymore.
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But, I mean, this guy's been doing much worse things.
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All over the world, terrible, terrible things are happening all the time.
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The fact that this guy is a journalist or a columnist is a big part of the reason why, you know, I think the media cares so much about it.
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And they're prioritizing it over, you know, some slaughter in Africa or some terrible thing that's happened in Russia, right?
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Like, this is, you know, this is a journalist that they knew that was from, you know, that wound up working for an American newspaper.
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So it is a big story, and the details around it are so crazy, like such a 24-story line, that I can understand why it captures the interest.
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But being patient and making sure you understand the actual facts of the situation before you act is not a negative in this situation.
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Yeah, there's a lot at stake here. A lot at stake.
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Like, I mean, if you just start willy-nilly throwing on sanctions on Saudi Arabia, they're going to retaliate.
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And it's going to cost not us as much, but the rest of the world is going to suffer in oil.
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All right, go ahead and punish us, and we'll cut off your oil supply.
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Well, I think we get scant little from them, but other people get a lot.
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So, yeah, you want to make sure you've got all your T's crossed and I's dotted before you take any severe action, I would think.
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So it all affects—each part of it affects the other parts.
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Though, I mean, I think making a principled moral decision outweighs that a lot of times.
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But American interests have to be factored in the equation.
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I think we've seen that happening too infrequently over the past few decades, and that should start again.
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Can I hit you up with one quick thing on the Saudi Arabia situation?
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Is it possible for us to settle on a pronunciation of this man's name?
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I would like to call a conference of everyone in the world.
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We're supposed to—CNN is the first name in news, right?
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Khashoggi is the one that I think is—I thought was, like, the main—
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Because we've been hearing that name since the 80s with Adnan Khashoggi, who was a big
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Yeah, and he was mentioned in the Iran-Contra hearings.
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So this is a name that's been—it was Khashoggi.
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But that doesn't—that's not a determining factor anymore.
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Like, if you call it Copenhagen for 500 years, it just turns to Copenhagen one day.
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I don't know—like, I don't know how this happens.
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So I heard Khashoggi initially, then Khashoggi.
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And now, on the way in today, I heard a New York Times person say Khashoggi.
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And now, we're like a week into this story, and there's already three different pronunciations
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If we want to call him Bob, I'm fine with that.
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You want to ask—I mean, what's his first name?
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And we'll just all know it's Jamal Khashoggi, Khashoggi, or Khashoggi.
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And then whatever the pronunciation is tomorrow.
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We've got to get together on that, because that drives me out of my mind.
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Here you have a situation where the name is spelled the same, but we're pronouncing it
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The guy went from mid-range pick in kickball to last pick.
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Like, I don't, it's like, when does this happen?
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No, it just started, and people just started using it.
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Like, for example, here we say the tiny little country that James Bond goes to the casino is
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If you listen, as a Canadian sports celebrity, I do quite often to Toronto Blue Jays games
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I would say, I mean, wouldn't you be pissed off if you're Mazda?
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I've also noticed that Jaguars are being called Jaguar.
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It's like they, like, if you come up with a name on your own, maybe you can describe
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But when it's a word we already know, it's Jaguar's a word.
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And what we've been saying for a hundred years.
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No, I think that's, see, I think that's Jaguar trying to seem refined.
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Like there's like, there's something, there's something a little snooty about the way they
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And Jaguar is like, ah, that's, that's, that's that stupid animal over there ripping up my
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But luckily I fell with my bone saw on top of it.
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Um, we need to warn you about, uh, something that's incredibly dangerous in our society
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Um, we're being warned by, uh, some Hollywood actresses that there's some danger there.
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Keira Knightley is promoting, uh, her upcoming movie, which was produced by Disney, by the
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But she told Ellen DeGeneres on Tuesday that she's not a fan of every movie the studio's
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produced because Disney princesses don't uphold her feminist values.
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So she has forbidden her three-year-old daughter, Edie, from watching certain movies like Cinderella, which has, uh, been banned in her household because she waits around for a rich guy to rescue her.
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And she says, don't rescue yourself, obviously.
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But she's mad because Cinderella waits to be rescued and does not rescue herself.
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She doesn't pull herself out of that situation.
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She's also quite annoyed by The Little Mermaid.
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She says, the songs are great, but they don't give, but don't give your voice up for a man.
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That's the main message of the song, uh, of really the entire movie, uh, is to give up all of your rights to men and wait for them to rescue you.
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That's the message you should be taking from those movies.
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Um, Kristen Bell is also fearful that Disney princesses are sending the wrong message to her children.
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She's actually the voice of a Disney princess, uh, Anna in Frozen.
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So, she tells her daughters, Lincoln and Delta, that, uh, when she reads Snow White...
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And when she reads Snow White to him, she closes up the book, and she says, every time we close Snow White, I look at my girls and ask,
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don't you think it's weird that Snow White didn't ask the old witch why she needed to eat the apple?
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I say, I would never take food from a stranger, would you?
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Then, she'll also say, and girls, don't you think it's weird that the prince kisses Snow White without her permission?
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She can't give her permission, and she'll stay in a coma if he doesn't kiss her.
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I mean, she's advocating for the coma to continue, right?
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And Bell says, because you can't kiss someone if they're sleeping.
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I mean, I would say in most circumstances, that's true.
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However, this is a notable circumstance, which is why it's a movie and a book, right?
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The reason why you know about it is because it's different than everyday life, right?
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And she's sleeping because she can't wake up unless the prince kisses her.
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So, it's a unique circumstance that perhaps your lessons don't apply to.
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You know what I hope happens every day is every day when she brings breakfast to them,
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they ask her, well, where did this come from, Mommy?
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I hope they just torture her with this for the rest of her life.
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You know, sometimes I think even, you know, like conservatives get made fun of when they do
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Like when you watch, you know, there's one cartoon that the kids were watching at one
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point that was, and it was just, it was just like a nonstop commercial for recycling.
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No, that is an actual, that one is actually a legitimate effort to change kids' minds about
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You know, people who created it actually talked about that.
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And Peppa, it was talking about, you know, recycling or something.
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And look, you know, there's nothing like recycling, whatever.
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I think there's some, there's some, there's some conflicting evidence as to what good it
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There's been several studies that have shown not much, not much, if any.
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Do I really need a giant commercial about environmentalism on my kids' programming?
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But I mean, you also can get a little bit worked up about that stuff.
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I mean, you can get a little, a little fired up with trying to find the political messages
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I mean, kids grow up into, you know, adults that can think for themselves.
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And, you know, you kind of have to, at some point, realize that you're not going to be
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And I guess with her values, probably the most important thing is to point out, I mean,
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she's probably doing, you know, very worried about, you know, she thinks Brett Kavanaugh's
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And at any point, there could be an assault going on.
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And, you know, I mean, maybe this is, this is consistent with what she wants to pass
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And I remember when people were concerned, conservatives were concerned mostly about some of these Disney
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movies because of the things that they put in the Disney movie.
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Like in the, is it the rescuers or the rescuers down under one of those?
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There's a scene where the character is going down a street on, I don't know, some type of
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vehicle and there's a woman, uh, on the, in one of the buildings they pass that's naked
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So conservatives would talk about that and it would be, Oh, stop it.
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And then there was the lion King, uh, scene where, uh, Simba as, as a grown lion kind of
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plops down on the side of a cliff and the dust shoots up and forms the word sex.
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If you freeze frame it, remember that, but we were insane for talking about any of that
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But you're supposed to tell your kids, uh, you need to ask where that apple is from.
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It's essentially, she's saying that rape culture is happening at Disney.
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I mean, the one I always think about is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, which is a
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I mean, I love that movie, but how about the scene where they're just going through.
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And, and all of a sudden, like a really quick, like subliminal things, you see like a chicken
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Like, why the hell is this in this children's movie?
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Like they go through this tunnel and it's like really like psychedelic and weird.
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And like, it's supposed to remember that being, yeah.
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Well, I look close at what's going on in there.
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Like there's like a closeup of, this is why I'm bringing it up.
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It's, I think it's supposed to, the scene is supposed to set the like off putting, uh,
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like he's supposed to give you an off putting feel, right?
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Like it's supposed to be like, things are all, everything's twisting around and like
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it's dimensions are almost changing and like all these strange things are happening.
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And you see like the scary, uh, what was the guy's name?
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Uh, with the, with the ever left last, he wanted the everlasting gobstopper and he kept
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Uh, God, I want to say Squidward, but that's Bob, SpongeBob.
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No, I think, and then he's going through it and it's supposed to give you that weird,
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And they flash like a bunch of really fast images.
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And one of them is like, like they're just cutting a chicken's head off in the middle
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So we've been tortured with this stuff for a long time and look how well we turned out.
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I guess you can get to that point where you're over, you're over parenting, right?
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And that certainly seems to be the way, uh, you know, that things are going now.
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We, we, um, we recently started, uh, letting our son try.
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She started an organization called let grow and, uh, uh, free range kids.
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And basically her mission in life is to make kids do some things.
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Like you don't need to helicopter parent over them all the time.
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She's famous for, uh, she lived in New York, still does, I believe.
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And she let her nine-year-old go on the New York city subway system by himself.
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And she was called the worst parent in America.
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And you're honestly, my immediate reaction when I read that story initially was she's
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Like you're nine-year-old on the subway by themselves.
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Like I can't even imagine the amount of panic I would have, but then you, you kind of step
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Um, but you step back and you say, well, wait a minute.
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Like George Washington was like, I think he won the revolutionary award at eight years
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old or something like this is, we went through a long period of time where people were, uh,
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supposed to be as kids, a much more self-sufficient.
00:31:04.260
You know, I know when I was a kid, like we would leave the house and we would go play
00:31:08.440
at a friend's houses that all the time, all the time would be gone the whole day.
00:31:12.340
And that whole thing about us coming back and, um, you know, you come back when it gets
00:31:17.440
dark or when the streetlights come on and like, it's, we use that a lot of times to signify
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things were safer and better than what's not even true.
00:31:28.180
This is like the eighties and the nineties, more of the eighties, but still like I was
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in high school in America by far, much more dangerous than now.
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This was a much, I mean, the crime rates were all higher.
00:31:43.120
School shootings were at the rate of four times what they are now.
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When I was in high school and I didn't have a minute of panic over a school shooting
00:31:51.100
And I think we get to that point where we're just, we get so freaked out.
00:31:54.380
We recently had our, you know, we have our son like walking, walking our dog, like a little
00:31:58.640
chore and he's doing it by himself, uh, just up the street a little bit and back.
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Like I can, it's everything in me not to walk to the end of my driveway and spy on him to
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That certainly isn't how it was when I was a kid.
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I think that's the, the instinct there is to just make sure you're mentioning every little
00:32:26.040
thing that you think could go wrong in their life so that if that thing does go wrong,
00:32:31.120
You know, it's like, it's almost a selfish instinct where you're just like, well, at
00:32:33.820
least I told him, I remember telling my kid 500 times not to go down dark alleys and
00:32:37.380
they went down a dark alley and well, it's really sad, but at least it's not my fault.
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Like that's a, that's not a really healthy instinct for a parent.
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I do feel like that is at the basis of it because of course you don't want, no one wants
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anything bad to happen to their kids, but it's additional to that.
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Like you don't want to be the person who let your kid walk down some street and where
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Because everyone's going to look at you and say, what the hell were you doing?
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And I think that leads to a lot of that over parenting stuff.
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And, and I'm sure this is the boat she's in, Kirsten Bell, right?
00:33:11.120
Like she's trying to protect, I mean, look, you're not going to, you're not going to say
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anything to a four-year-old reading Cinderella.
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That's going to protect them from rape culture.
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But you're never, you're never going to be able to solve this problem you believe is
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so prevalent by a story you tell them after reading Cinderella or watching it.
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Or the Little Mermaid, um, or any of these, uh, Disney movies, because they're already going
00:33:36.060
to be, uh, messed up from Simba falling down and blowing the word sex into the air from
00:34:04.840
Think of how recent this Brett Kavanaugh thing was and absorb that story back in your mind
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for a moment about what we were trying to find that Dr. Ford comes up and testifies and says,
00:34:18.880
None of those people, uh, say that they remember this, this incident.
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Uh, she didn't tell anybody for a very long period of time.
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There was no, she couldn't remember where the house was.
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Um, and we were basically the insinuation from the media was if let's say one of the witnesses
00:34:44.560
she named instead came out and said, yeah, I remember that party.
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And I remember he being really shook up and she left and I remember it being very strange
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And now I know if you would have had just that, I think the media would have been in,
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I mean, they already were in full conviction mode, but I don't think Collins and Flake would
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Just one person saying one thing, not with, as a witnessing the incident, but just, she
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We're looking for one who even knew that the party occurred.
00:35:17.240
Not that the incident happened, just that the party occurred.
00:35:21.420
This is from 1999 from Slate, the hardcore right-wing publication of Slate, talking about
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the accusation of rape, not sexual assault, not sexual harassment, but rape against Bill
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Broderick's initial denials indicate only that she shunned publicity.
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That's why she never reported the rape, rebuffed advances from Clinton's political enemies who
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So they had to ask Broderick about this in 1992 when he was running for president.
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And she said, no, I'm not going to tell my story.
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So she had an opportunity to take down this president and did not decide to do so.
00:36:00.400
She lied to Paula Jones' lawyers about the incident to get out of talking about it.
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She eventually told the FBI the truth in 1998 only because her son, a lawyer, advised her
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So she didn't want to tell the story to tear down the president.
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She told the story because she thought she was going to get perjury charges or something
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Five people say Broderick told them about the rape immediately after it occurred.
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So not looking for one person who was at the hotel or at the party in the Kavanaugh case.
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She had five people that she told about the rape immediately after it occurred.
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A friend and co-worker named Norma Kelsey says 21 years ago she found a dazed Broderick
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with a bloodied lip and torn pantyhose in their shared hotel room.
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Broderick explained that Clinton had just raped her.
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Clinton is supposed to have bitten her on the lip right before raping her.
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Her current husband, then her lover, says Broderick told him about the rape as well
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Broderick did not remember the date of the rape, and that's the one similarity here,
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though she did supply the name of the hotel, the Camelot, and the reason she was visiting
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She also says that Clinton pointed to a ramshackle prison outside the hotel room window before
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he raped her and said he planned to renovate it.
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He's so Clinton in the middle of about to go through a rape.
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He's like, by the way, I'm going to renovate that prison over there.
00:37:28.960
NBC News found a date in which a nursing home seminar was held at the Camelot Hotel and
00:37:38.680
Newspaper reports suggest that Clinton was in the area and had no official commitments
00:37:43.620
in the early morning when the rape is supposed to have occurred.
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That is a thousand times the amount of even alleged evidence that occurred with Dr. Ford
00:37:59.720
and Brett Kavanaugh, and yet that was ignored until the very second the Clinton family became
00:38:09.560
And now, yeah, you'll see occasional people saying, yeah, we should have handled that differently,
00:38:16.060
That only happens now after they never want to hear either one of their stories ever again.
00:38:22.140
To them, Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family is not guilty of this rape.
00:38:28.300
They're guilty of blowing an election to Donald Trump.
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But, I mean, Bill Clinton goes along and still makes big level speeches.
00:38:42.520
And Paula Jones had a lot of evidence, too, including corroborating witnesses of what happened
00:38:47.260
It's a situation with a double standard that is so bizarre.
00:38:52.380
And the fact that the media actually thinks we should take their current stance seriously
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The stance is and always has been you should be taken seriously when you report a crime against
00:39:06.080
That crime should go through the legal system with actual standards.
00:39:11.400
And if they're held responsible for this crime, then we can all understand what happened.
00:39:20.940
And the idea that we're now supposed to go through these kangaroo courts, and even worse
00:39:24.540
than that, I mean, even worse than the kangaroo courts, it's like, oh, well, I don't know,
00:39:28.340
kind of seems like maybe he could have done it, is now our standard.
00:39:34.920
And yet you have Hillary Clinton speaking out against Brett Kavanaugh and defending her
00:39:43.580
And they just asked her what the difference was between the two.
00:39:47.820
And she said, well, yeah, they're completely different because my husband's improprieties
00:39:57.420
Well, there is substantial evidence, as you just pointed out, into all of the claims made
00:40:07.720
And the other difference is she went after and tried to destroy every single one of the
00:40:17.020
Nobody's trying to destroy Christine Blasey Ford.
00:40:20.600
Nobody's trying to destroy even the others that are making outrageous allegations against
00:40:27.200
The exception of Michael Avenatti, which I think the Democrats are currently trying to destroy
00:40:34.920
And they do not want him running for president.
00:40:39.360
They are very much trying to destroy him at this point.
00:40:50.760
But it's so bad that even Trevor Noah, who's the I mean, I thought Jon Stewart was unfunny.
00:40:58.680
This guy is unfunny to about the one millionth power.
00:41:03.540
But Trevor Noah on Comedy Central the other night took on Hillary Clinton and, you know, to
00:41:09.080
his credit, actually said some some accurate things about her and and whether or not she's
00:41:16.940
the best person to be speaking out on sexual allegations.
00:41:22.340
In retrospect, do you think Bill should have resigned in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal?
00:41:31.920
There are people who look at the incidents of the 90s and they say a president of the United
00:41:37.080
States cannot have a consensual relationship with an intern.
00:41:45.320
Where's the investigation of the current incumbent?
00:41:57.280
But today, I think we're all understanding that there's a massive power imbalance between
00:42:00.920
an intern and the president of the United States, right?
00:42:07.760
Like if President Obama texted me, hey, Trevor, you up?
00:42:14.460
And then he'd be like, actually, I just want to know if you're watching the game.
00:42:20.320
And what's also not cool is Hillary trying to deflect and make this about Trump.
00:42:24.300
Like you're not in a position to be throwing stones at someone, Hillary, especially when
00:42:30.120
Other than the power dynamic thing, what he is saying there is really amazing because
00:42:39.700
But I don't buy into the power dynamic that nobody can say no to the president of the United
00:42:45.080
I mean, don't you, wouldn't you certainly try to raise your children to grow up to be
00:42:48.260
people that would say no to the president of the United States?
00:42:51.840
You don't let him do whatever he wants to because he's the president.
00:42:55.660
And this is a side thing and maybe a longer conversation.
00:43:05.360
She was a willing participant in an old fashioned affair is what she was.
00:43:15.700
And from his perspective, you know, he's the president of the United States.
00:43:18.760
He is doing things that he should not be doing.
00:43:21.880
But like it's totally different than Juanita Broderick or Paula Jones.
00:43:34.100
Like she thought that they eventually were going to be together and be married.
00:43:37.680
And this was not a situation in which she was like, oh, wow, I'm, I'm, I'm scared for my career, for example.
00:43:43.140
Like that's the thing that was a power imbalance.
00:43:44.800
Well, there's an implication, even if the person doesn't do it, there's an implication that maybe they'll ruin your career if you don't hook up with them.
00:43:51.660
Which, first of all, is prosecuting a crime before it occurs.
00:43:55.520
Like you're just assuming the person's going to commit a crime and ruin your career over sexual stuff.
00:44:03.600
She was, she was a willing participant in an affair.
00:44:07.040
And she was also, by the way, in the one point that is valid from Hillary there is she was an adult.
00:44:12.040
We, we should not be excusing all actions by 23-year-old women, right?
00:44:18.380
You are an absolute, you are responsible for your own actions at that time.
00:44:38.500
There's an interesting thing from the New York Times today.
00:44:40.540
And it is, they do this little podcast in the morning called The Daily.
00:44:47.180
And whether Louis C.K. should be allowed back on stage.
00:44:59.160
An odd part of this saga with him in particular is that there doesn't seem to be much of an allegation,
00:45:04.400
much if any allegations of him doing something that.
00:45:13.840
Or there was one case where he, again, like, this is the level of the accusation here.
00:45:24.980
And while he was on the phone with the woman, the woman believed that he was pleasuring himself
00:45:33.140
while on the phone with her because, I guess, he was breathing heavy or something.
00:45:38.360
And she couldn't hang up because of the power dynamic?
00:45:43.260
The power dynamic makes you do all sorts of things.
00:45:45.700
Because as a comedian, he wields incredible power in this country.
00:45:53.640
He could have her fired at any job in the nation.
00:45:57.820
Your sarcasm is just reality in this situation.
00:46:07.800
And at one point, one of the accusations was he walked up to another comedian, and they
00:46:13.000
were talking, and I guess he thought there was a vibe there or something, invited her
00:46:16.560
back to his trailer to do his thing in front of her, which apparently was, this is his shtick.
00:46:22.540
And she said, actually, you know, you have a wife and a child, and you should think about
00:46:35.760
He didn't do it, and then they had that conversation.
00:46:38.760
He asked her to do this thing, which is obviously icky, right?
00:46:42.700
But, I mean, again, he asked her to do this thing.
00:46:44.620
She said no, reminded him of his wife and child, and so he said, ah, you're right.
00:46:56.060
He asked the question, which she answered, right?
00:47:00.700
There's, you know, so I, he admitted to being a dirtbag, right?
00:47:04.920
And he admitted in such a general way that people kind of make it, well, he admitted to
00:47:10.780
And he did admit to, I've done a lot of things wrong, and I've tried to figure out a way
00:47:17.360
And I think that, what I just described to you is obviously wrong.
00:47:27.640
And the, and the idea that, you know, Louis C.K., because he's a famous comedian, can
00:47:32.820
affect other people, other comedians' careers is theoretically possible.
00:47:40.260
The fact that he wants to have, he wants to hook up with someone who theoretically he could
00:47:46.920
But there's not evidence that he did this to anyone.
00:47:57.220
Like, this is the sort of stuff that Minority Report was supposed to scare us away from.
00:48:01.200
You're not supposed to just assume people will commit crimes in the future.
00:48:08.060
Now, Comedy Cellar is famous New York comedy club.
00:48:11.080
Like, it's a tiny, it's like a hundred people can watch comedy there.
00:48:14.580
And if you go there, you'll see a lineup of comedians every day.
00:48:18.620
And, but it's famous for people, random people that are incredibly famous just stopping by.
00:48:24.700
You go in there to see some comedian you never heard of.
00:48:31.080
Or Jerry Seinfeld comes in and walks in and does a set.
00:48:34.720
Well, apparently this is the first place he went as he's tried to do this.
00:48:38.280
He's bounced around to several clubs around New York since.
00:48:42.040
So the New York Times does an exhaustive report about trying to talk to the club owner about why you let him on stage.
00:48:48.900
This is a clip about how he's trying to determine the decision.
00:48:54.140
Other people were just upset that he should ever work again.
00:49:01.040
And I'm like, okay, when do you think he could come work again?
00:49:07.680
I said, well, could you imagine any court of law handing down such a sentence and never work again?
00:49:19.020
But I wonder, as the owner of his place, what you would say, particularly to a female customer who is here.
00:49:24.820
But, you know, I know when Bill Clinton, who was credibly obviously accused in Juanita Broderick,
00:49:29.920
I mean, I think nobody will expect a warning before he shows up somewhere.
00:49:35.120
Like, why were they cheering Roman Polanski as they were for years?
00:49:42.280
The director accused of sexually abusing a young man.
00:49:46.580
But behind all these people you're mentioning, Roman Polanski, the film director, Bill Clinton, the president, Louis C.K., the comedian,
00:49:59.120
Right, but I'm saying nobody cares that Mike Tyson, who raped or was convicted of raping somebody, performs.
00:50:05.080
I guess you can only control the venue you control.
00:50:07.720
Yes, but it's not unusual to expect some consistency in the world.
00:50:14.060
And when you see wildly inconsistent demands, if it's so obvious that the guy who masturbated in front of women and exposed himself in front of women should never work again.
00:50:30.480
The irrationality of, okay, but you let this guy on who did much less than they are, and you shouldn't.
00:50:39.840
You shouldn't have let this comedian perform on your stage.
00:50:44.000
And the fact that nobody cares about these other people, the same people, by the way, who want him to shut out Louis C.K., didn't care about Clinton, didn't care about any of these other circumstances, but he's supposed to.
00:50:59.260
Yeah, and, you know, I will say he was really smart about this.
00:51:04.480
I mean, he made some great points in this interview.
00:51:06.780
And the New York Times reporter was just constantly trying to say, well, yeah, but you did this thing, and you allowed it, and trying to put it personally on him as to why he made the decision, which is an interesting part of the story.
00:51:15.920
But, I mean, he made the point as well of, look, what is the line?
00:51:38.060
Yeah, and the idea that this guy has not been punished for this is insanity.
00:51:41.620
The man was making $10 million a year, and he's probably now making, what was he making at a comedy seller appearance?
00:51:51.060
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he just walks in and does it because he wants to do it.
00:51:55.140
He has, you know, paid for this in a large way.
00:52:00.420
And, you know, it's certainly affected his career in a big way.
00:52:08.560
And, again, we're talking about a consensual act.
00:52:12.140
Every time he actually did it, it was consensual.
00:52:15.780
And there was one case in which, as we discussed, the woman said no.
00:52:19.760
Another case on the phone where we don't know what happened.
00:52:22.140
Another case where he started doing it and the woman left because she didn't want to be part of it.
00:52:29.320
She should walk out and think he's a loser and tell all of her friends that he's a loser.
00:52:32.460
But that does not mean that he should be losing jobs 10 or 15 years later.
00:52:37.100
Charlottesville is another great example of this.
00:52:40.780
We played the video and the audio of, you know, Jews will not replace us and all these crazy chants from the real dirtbags in that Charlottesville carrying torches and, you know, the deepest, darkest corners of the alt-right.
00:52:53.800
One of the guys who attended the rally and was in some of those videos was identified as a man who worked at a hot dog stand in California.
00:53:06.740
He was fired from his job at the hot dog stand.
00:53:14.060
Now, look, if he is saying to black customers, I won't serve you because you're black, obviously, we get that.
00:53:20.460
There's no indication that that ever happened, though.
00:53:28.380
It was not like, you know, he was not in the high levels of finance here.
00:53:31.940
And so now we can all feel good about ourselves.
00:53:36.180
The power dynamic of a hot dog vendor, though, is such that it's too intimidating for other people.
00:53:42.880
So I guess now we can all feel good about ourselves.
00:53:45.340
The fact that we are, instead of him having a job at a hot dog stand, instead, we will support him with our tax dollars because he's going to be at home.
00:53:53.020
And all these projects and programs that liberals have created over the years to support people in need are going to go to this white supremacist who can no longer hold down his job at a hot dog stand because we're too morally above him.
00:54:09.000
I don't want to ever hang out with a guy who would go to that rally and carry a torch and say Jews will not replace us.
00:54:17.020
But, I mean, what we do is we just find every one of these guys.
00:54:23.020
You know, it's a question I've never considered.
00:54:25.720
I would rather not be replaced by anyone, ideally.
00:54:42.020
It's just a weird thing we're dealing with because, you know, finding someone in a video and identifying them online gives you this sort of rush of,
00:54:52.000
I've outed this terrible person and I can punish him.
00:54:58.480
Certainly you're punishing the taxpayers of this area who now have to support this loser who actually somehow was able to hold down a job selling hot dogs and now has to sit inside probably playing Xbox while you're paying him to do it.
00:55:17.740
It's a strange direction for us to be going in.
00:55:24.580
So maybe the answer is they just can't be alive anymore.
00:55:29.780
I mean, it almost comes down to that because if they can't support themselves and certainly the state, you don't want them supported by your tax dollars.
00:55:37.760
So I guess all people who are accused just starve to death now.
00:55:47.040
And it would be nice for us to find some consistency in this world.
00:55:50.840
You know, the fact that like, you know, if you were to say the Me Too movement, I bet to most people, sure, you get Harvey Weinstein mentioned.
00:55:58.060
And you might get maybe Kevin Spacey or one of the other two, you know, a few big stars.
00:56:03.960
But what you would almost definitely get is Donald Trump and Roy Moore and Brett Kavanaugh and every conservative or anyone even supposedly leaning right that you can think of that was accused.
00:56:27.980
And I mean, it's been almost everyone has been in those industries and those industries obviously lean incredibly to the left.
00:56:35.360
So the idea that this is a right wing phenomenon, I mean, it just seems like people who are on the right pay the price for it, where people on the left, you know, don't necessarily see that the same way.
00:56:45.780
And, you know, I think you have to get to a point where someone like Louis C.K., who was, I think, accused correctly of being a dirtbag, right, to his own admission.
00:56:58.680
But nothing that was over this line of sexual assault, at least is not as reported.
00:57:09.100
You know, you have to look at these things as they stand.
00:57:17.780
You know, what's his face from the New York Times?
00:57:24.600
He was accused of harassing young interns and other underlings.
00:57:31.400
I mean, Mike Tyson, it's pretty clear, the man was convicted of rape, not accused, convicted of rape, spent time in prison.
00:57:41.720
He comes on, he has silly appearances everywhere.
00:57:43.880
Doesn't seem to have a problem going anywhere or doing anything.
00:57:45.920
And look, he's served time and he's out, right?
00:57:49.280
And so you can make the case, as the left has made forever, that people who go in felons should be able to come back and vote.
00:57:56.460
They have programs to give felons and convicted felons and murderers jobs.
00:58:01.100
Yeah, but when someone's accused of something much less than murder, they can never work again.