On today's show, Glenn and Stu talk about the massive migrant caravan headed toward the southern border. They also discuss the Beto O Rourke situation and whether or not a lot of white guys in El Paso have the name Beto.
00:03:23.800And it's certainly not something that's going to influence the type of progress you would theoretically want if you are a migrant from Central America wanting to come to the United States.
00:03:34.840Yeah, you're talking from their mindset.
00:04:15.620And you hear about dreamy dreamers because they have stories that are largely compelling in a one-on-one basis, right?
00:04:23.140You know, they pick, they know, of course, they don't pick the, they came here at 17 and 11 months and have been breaking the law for 15 years.
00:04:32.800They pick the kid, and there are some examples of this where there's a kid who's, you know, four years old and comes across with their parent, as the phrase is, no fault of their own, which is true when you're four years old.
00:04:44.440And there's a compelling case there, and I think a lot of people are open to that case, even if you—
00:04:48.920I think if you're four, you're mature enough to say, hey, mom, dad, I'm not doing this.
00:05:02.360Usually that doesn't happen when you're four.
00:05:06.300So, I mean, there's a compelling case there.
00:05:08.260When you talk about 4,000 people coming across the border, that's just a mass.
00:05:12.820You can't look at those people individually, or it's hard to, I think, for the average American, because this is just—this is not a situation where there's a person who came across the border in a situation where they necessarily weren't making a decision to violate the law.
00:05:28.380These are 4,000 people intentionally telling you days in advance that what our goal is, is to come break the law.
00:05:37.620And that is—there's just not a lot of sympathy, I think, from even Americans who are open to border reform and immigration reform.
00:05:50.020And to do it three weeks before an election, it's almost like Donald Trump was like, hey, guys, would you mind creating a caravan and sending it this way?
00:05:58.660And what I will do is I will talk about it, and it will help us win this election.
00:06:02.460And then afterwards, you guys can go back home.
00:07:59.160I don't let him walk down to the end of the block, let alone, hey, why don't you walk to Honduras with a group of people that I don't know?
00:08:07.080Now, look, there are situations you could argue, right?
00:08:10.080Like, if you were in—you know, you're in North Korea, right, and you had a chance to get your kid out, you probably pulled the trigger on that whether you ever see them again or not, right?
00:08:26.480But it's just—you try to—it's the same thing with the Dreamers, right?
00:08:30.320They try to give you the picture of everyone as a four-year-old who came across the border.
00:08:34.160And in reality, like, most of them are teenagers.
00:08:36.320Most of them were 16 and 17 years old.
00:08:39.420This is a different—it's a different story.
00:08:42.080And you just wonder, first of all, why you would do this, because it's a gift to Donald Trump.
00:08:46.500If you want to talk about hardening the borders, this is an easy way to get people together to do that.
00:08:53.080When people hear a story like this, it does not soften their hearts.
00:08:57.360It makes people say, whoa, this—you know, because the word invasion gets used with illegal immigration sometimes from people who oppose it, you know, in a hawkish manner, right?
00:09:26.260They're either coming in the right way, or they're overrunning security.
00:09:30.300And you see that Mexico does not want to deal with this, but they know that they're not the end—they're not the end location.
00:09:37.100So they can let them into Mexico and say, well, you guys apply for asylum, and in six months, you come back for that hearing, and of course, they're just going to keep walking north.
00:09:47.960And it's interesting how other countries deal with this, and yet the vitriol directed at us for trying to deal with it in just even a fairly reasonable way.
00:10:01.100Every time we do, we're hateful, we're uncaring, we're racist, whereas Mexico certainly protects their border.
00:10:10.260Do you remember what Felipe Calderon said when he came to the United States and he was trying to influence our immigration policy?
00:10:16.460If somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job, they can work.
00:10:26.060If somebody do that without permissions, we send back them.
00:10:44.100Mexico has a pretty stiff immigration law.
00:10:47.420They've got a streamlined law that ensures foreign visitors and immigrants are in the country legally, have the means to sustain themselves economically.
00:10:59.160They're not destined to be burdens on society.
00:11:02.020They are of economic and social benefit to society.
00:11:05.940Wait, you expect your immigrants to contribute?
00:11:09.720They're of good character, no criminal background, and they're contributors to the general welfare and well-being of the nation.
00:11:18.600They make sure that they don't have any sort of criminal record.
00:11:35.960I mean, how many illegal immigrant protests have there been where they're waving the Mexican flags in our faces, where they're demanding rights that they think they have coming to them?
00:11:47.820In Mexico, you can't even interfere in their internal politics.
00:11:54.960Plus, if they think that you're going to throw off the balance of their demographics, they deport you.
00:12:21.460I can't think of one Trump supporter who would support a policy where we had to keep the exact same percentages of white people versus other races.
00:12:32.260What you want are people who are productive, who are here because they want to be here and be part of the society, who are going to add something to our community instead of taking things from it.
00:12:41.260I mean, you know, that's what you want.
00:13:08.480That is a completely, it's a larger argument that needs to be addressed, and we've, you know, been talking about it for years and years.
00:13:14.840But politically speaking, you got three weeks to a midterm election.
00:13:19.420There's no, like, this is a complete gift to the Republicans, to people who care about the border, to people who have any, to Donald Trump and the people he's supporting.
00:13:50.300But it doesn't seem to be a general theme for the party.
00:13:53.300Yeah, I did hear Cruz talking about it in the debate.
00:13:55.400I don't think, I don't know that he mentioned the caravan per se, but I mean, he was talking a lot about border security.
00:14:01.200I mean, there's a really close race in Arizona.
00:14:03.420A race where McSally has, I think, a great chance of winning.
00:14:07.640Because her opponent there is like, if you took Michael Moore and put his brain into a female body of a congresswoman, you would have all of these tapes that they've been finding about her.
00:14:21.860Where she's saying, you know, she's bashing Arizona.
00:14:24.560She's saying it's the meth lab of democracy.
00:14:27.340She's saying people are crazy in Arizona.
00:14:30.000She's talking about how, I mean, she's on 9-11 truther shows.
00:14:34.300I mean, she is, as, it's incredible that they've decided to run her and thought that this stuff would not come out.
00:14:42.140And McSally is, you know, you're talking about one of the first female pilots in history of the Air Force.
00:17:03.800He, of course, is a deep Hispanic roots.
00:17:07.760If you don't know what Beto is, it's a deep Hispanic nickname for this deeply Hispanic man whose name, Robert Francis O'Rourke, might not signify to you how Hispanic he is, which is why he's called Beto.
00:17:49.780Congressman, throughout the campaign, you have been attacked for being what Don Jr. has called an Irish guy pretending to be Hispanic.
00:17:55.760So what does the Hispanic community mean to you and what relationships do you have with that community?
00:18:00.660So to clarify the question about my name, I was born Robert Francis O'Rourke, son of Pat Francis O'Rourke, who was the son of John Francis O'Rourke.
00:18:09.720Father to Ulysses Francis O'Rourke, who will go as UFO for much of his life.
00:18:15.280And from day one in El Paso, and you know this in McAllen, if you are born Robert or Albert or Gilbert or Humberto, your folks, your friends, your community calls you Beto.
00:18:27.460That's my nickname that I've gone by for my entire life.
00:18:32.060Born and raised in the fourth generation in El Paso in a community that is more than 80% Mexican-American.
00:19:39.920Maybe we could hear from somebody in El Paso.
00:19:41.700If you were in El Paso or anywhere around there and your name is Robert, I'd love to know if you exist.
00:19:46.200Because what we were just told is, as everyone knows, if you happen to grow up in El Paso and your name is Robert, Bill, Ted, Stanley, Orlando, or Reginald, you're referred to as Beto.
00:20:20.760Congressman, throughout the campaign, you have been attacked for being what Don Jr. has called an Irish guy pretending to be Hispanic.
00:20:27.000So what does the Hispanic community mean to you, and what relationships do you have with that community?
00:20:30.700So to clarify the question about my name, I was born Robert Francis O'Rourke, son of Pat Francis O'Rourke, who was the son of John Francis O'Rourke, father to Ulysses Francis O'Rourke, who will go as UFO for much of his life.
00:20:46.200And from day one in El Paso, and you know this in McAllen, if you are born Robert or Albert or Gilbert or Humberto, your folks, your friends, your community calls you Beto.
00:20:58.400That's my nickname that I've gone by for my entire life.
00:21:02.580Born and raised in the fourth generation in El Paso in a community that is more than 80% Mexican-American.
00:21:09.780Okay, so if you're born Robert, Albert, Gilbert, Humberto, Paul, Frank, Blaine, Biff, Dave, Don, Jack, or Frank, you're called Beto.
00:21:49.680And one of the things I would love to do today, to see, to test this, is it true that there is no example of someone named Robert, Albert, Gilbert, or Humberto who was not named what they're, you know, so if you were Gilbert and people call you Gilbert, apparently to Beto, you do not exist.
00:22:12.520You are not a person, you're not, it's, we just, we have no evidence that you exist.
00:22:17.100So if you happen to be a Robert, an Albert, a Gilbert, or an Humberto.
00:22:22.560Well, if you're Humberto, obviously you're probably going to have a Hispanic nickname, right?
00:22:40.960And this is an opportunity for us, Pat and Stu, two white, white, whiteys.
00:22:47.660We're talking whitey, whitey to the max.
00:22:50.140Two of the whitest people you'll ever know, with almost no cultural awareness whatsoever, to be learned here.
00:22:57.180We can be taught about Hispanic culture.
00:23:01.260I mean, Beto has been white-splaining us some Hispanic culture here over the past few months.
00:23:05.900But I would like to know from people who actually grew up in these areas, is it true that everyone—I'm sure there are some examples.
00:23:13.560I can think of one off the top of my head who's named Robert Francis O'Rourke and calls himself Beto.
00:23:19.120But is this a common thing to the point of—I believe his standard was everyone who gets named one of those names in Texas or in these communities would be referred to as Beto.
00:27:01.000You are, in the Hispanic community, you have Robert in your name.
00:27:05.160You are not called Beto, and you know the people that you refer to in the Hispanic community with the names Robert, Albert, Gilbert, and Umberto, you refer to by their actual names.
00:27:34.660We're trying to help here, and so is Joe.
00:27:36.500Thank you, Joe, for calling in, and I would love to hear from more people.
00:27:39.520If you happen to be Robert, Albert, Gilbert, or Umberto, or happen to live in a Hispanic community where you know someone of these names, is that always how you refer to it?
00:27:52.480Because that is the standard set by Beto, and I'm curious to see if there are more unicorns out there.
00:28:03.580We've already uncovered something that people have told us did not exist.
00:28:07.960It's a miracle, and all this hard research we've put into this today by giving out the phone number once or twice, and shockingly, we were able to uncover somebody.
00:28:18.960So we'll see if there's more out there.
00:28:44.620Your second point that you were mentioning, I would say that 95% of the people that are named in the names that you mentioned do go by Beto.
00:33:38.900Here is the ad from the group supporting French Hill.
00:33:42.880What do you think about what's happening in Washington?
00:33:45.260Our congressman, French Hill, and the Republicans know that it's dangerous to change the presumption of innocence to a presumption of guilt, especially for black men.
00:33:54.120If the Democrats can do that to a white justice of the Supreme Court with no evidence, no corroboration, and all of her witnesses, including her best friend, say it didn't happen, what will happen to our husbands, our fathers, or our sons when a white girl lies on them?
00:34:11.240Girl, white Democrats will be lynching black folk again.
00:34:14.480Honey, I've always told my son, don't be messing around with that.
00:34:20.960I'm voting to keep Congressman French Hill and the Republicans because we have to protect our men and boys.
00:34:28.000We can't afford to let white Democrats take us back to bad old days of race verdicts, life sentences, and lynchings when a white girl screams rape.
00:34:37.100Paid for by black Americans for the president's agenda.
00:34:39.860Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
00:34:42.660First of all, I would totally watch a show with them hosting it.
00:34:47.640And these are obviously real points they're making.
00:34:49.940The point of, and this is a fascinating thing from the left, who thinks that, you know, one of the biggest reasons Beto is in the public eye in the United States and not just a Texas figure is because of this video he made about it's a great idea to kneel for the national anthem.
00:35:11.500People like Colin Kaepernick saying that black people are being unfairly accused without evidence and being shot in the streets for no reason because for crimes they didn't commit.
00:35:20.580But at the same time, we're supposed to get on board, if you're on the left, you're supposed to get on board with a new standard in which any white woman can accuse a man of rape and we're just supposed to believe her.
00:35:37.040That is not going to work out well for African Americans or any race of male.
00:35:41.760But this is the type of thing that makes no sense.
00:35:50.320I mean, this goes back a long way where black people were accused of doing terrible things to white people when they didn't and entire communities went and attacked the black person.
00:35:59.980This is obviously going back quite a ways, but it is something that legitimately is part of our history.
00:36:05.600And it's surprising at the least if liberals actually cared about black people and black men like they say that they do, that they would want to embrace a standard like this.
00:36:14.880So the point behind the ad, I think, is relatively fair and is something that should be communicated, I think, to the African American community.
00:36:22.680The criticism is perhaps a little overdone.
00:36:55.420I don't think that this is something that French Hill necessarily is embracing by any means.
00:37:00.500But it is something that's making a lot of – a lot of waves in the media because they're trying to make it seem like, well, this is just this Republican and who's a racist.
00:37:11.180I mean, A, he didn't have anything to do with the ad.
00:37:14.020But besides that, it is – it's an interesting double standard that we find ourselves dealing with.
00:39:31.900Every rhyming line, he's got this gigantic smile on his face like he's uncovered some deep historical truth or solved, you know, a perpetual motion machine.