The Glenn Beck Program - Biden’s Awkward Moments Continue

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00:00:54.720 It's amazing how that stuff seems. I mean, that's like ancient history, isn't it?

00:00:59.420 I know. I love throwing in the Friendster jokes.

00:01:01.060 It's my favorite one because, if you don't know, it was a social network before Facebook and really...

00:01:06.520 And before, I think, MySpace, wasn't it?

00:01:08.320 It was around there. It was like the one that everyone said was going to make a big run but never really caught on.

00:01:12.540 Right.

00:01:13.460 And it's like 12 generations ago now.

00:01:16.060 Like, my references are getting...

00:01:18.000 It really is.

00:01:18.540 You get to a point where you're... We always used to make fun of you because all of your impersonations are dead.

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00:01:36.300 It's a weird thing. As they're current, I can't do their voice.

00:01:39.180 As soon as they die, I can get there now.

00:01:41.980 That's so true.

00:01:45.460 So, yeah, no, it's a long road, Pat. It's a long road.

00:01:49.220 Yes. Anyway...

00:01:50.280 I think eventually we're going to get to that point where people feel the same way about CNN.

00:01:54.160 You're going to make a CNN joke and people are like, what? What is CNN? What is that?

00:01:58.840 If they keep going as they currently are, that will happen.

00:02:01.840 This is pretty bad.

00:02:02.880 You know, they did this big gun town hall thing over the last couple of days.

00:02:07.200 Which I'm sure they thought was going to be massive.

00:02:09.180 Well, the last one was, right?

00:02:10.480 I mean, the last one was a big deal, at least.

00:02:12.280 I don't know how it did in the ratings.

00:02:13.920 I don't remember, but...

00:02:14.620 I think it did pretty well in the ratings that night.

00:02:17.760 Actually, let's see.

00:02:20.340 Yeah, so Jake Tapper did the first one.

00:02:23.920 And it did a little bit better.

00:02:26.100 So last night they did America Under Assault, The Gun Crisis.

00:02:30.420 Aired at 9 p.m., drew in 1.2 million total viewers on average.

00:02:35.120 Hannity, who interviewed a Democratic candidate in last place, Bill de Blasio.

00:02:43.240 Oh, wow.

00:02:43.940 3.1 million.

00:02:45.540 And Rachel Maddow did 2.3 million.

00:02:48.180 So they only lost...

00:02:49.420 Jeez.

00:02:50.520 They came in third place and came in half of second place, is how many people actually watched.

00:02:56.280 Jake Tapper's town hall had 58% more viewers than Chris Cuomo's.

00:03:01.740 So this did not work very well this time.

00:03:03.720 No, look, it's the same trick they tried last time, right?

00:03:07.420 You come out and you try to take advantage of a tragedy and you try to ramp up ratings.

00:03:14.300 And that's not a good idea.

00:03:15.420 I don't think people think of that as in bounds.

00:03:20.500 You know, it feels really icky to try to take advantage of something like that.

00:03:24.940 Maybe the first time you do it, people are like, all right, look, they're trying to get solutions.

00:03:28.260 They're trying to hear the voices of some of these people in the community.

00:03:30.580 I mean, you can make those arguments.

00:03:31.920 You trotted out again after how bad it went last time when you got to a point where the people that you brought in as guests...

00:03:39.580 Completely stacked the deck against Dana, who was there to be a spokesperson for the NRA.

00:03:44.140 Yeah.

00:03:44.580 And they just tried to bludgeon her the whole time.

00:03:47.780 And in some ways, literally, I mean, that was a legitimate security threat for her.

00:03:52.520 Right.

00:03:53.280 And, you know, luckily she was able to get out of there.

00:03:56.960 But they did not treat it well.

00:03:58.560 They did not handle it well.

00:04:00.280 The biggest mistake they made as far as the actual program went was having the large, loud, cheering crowd.

00:04:06.780 Because that's not...

00:04:07.780 Look, if you're trying to make an argument that you're coming up with real solutions, we care about this and we care about the community.

00:04:13.560 You know, you don't turn it into a WWE event.

00:04:15.880 Yeah.

00:04:16.540 And that's what they did last time.

00:04:17.820 I don't know if they did that this time.

00:04:19.160 I don't remember seeing a crowd.

00:04:20.380 It could be that they invited a crowd, but then they heard it was Chris Cuomo, so they didn't come.

00:04:24.020 That's a very possible thing here.

00:04:26.560 But it did not do well.

00:04:28.080 Finished third place for their big gun town hall.

00:04:31.620 And, you know, at some point, you've got to pull the plug on the Chris Cuomo experiment, don't you?

00:04:35.700 I think so.

00:04:36.540 At some point, you just have to realize...

00:04:37.980 I think so, yes.

00:04:38.700 Yes, he has a famous name in the state you're in.

00:04:41.560 Okay, that's about what you have with Chris.

00:04:43.440 I think it's about time to just say, you know, just turn it off.

00:04:45.980 You know, sometimes you try things and they just don't work.

00:04:49.660 Yeah.

00:04:49.960 You know, you saw a guy, you said, hey, I remember that guy used to be governor.

00:04:52.940 And now his brother's...

00:04:53.980 Or his dad used to be governor.

00:04:55.040 Now his brother's governor.

00:04:56.200 Maybe we should put him on TV.

00:04:57.380 And it seems like a good idea at the time.

00:04:59.260 And then it falls apart.

00:05:00.660 And you can try to, you know, put it back together over and over and over again.

00:05:04.840 But at some point, you just have to say, look, this is not working.

00:05:07.380 And I think we're there with Chris Cuomo, are we not?

00:05:10.580 Oh, yes.

00:05:11.980 We were there day, I think, two for me.

00:05:14.700 But if it takes CNN a little while to catch up, okay.

00:05:17.920 But they should be caught up by now.

00:05:19.940 All right.

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00:06:39.100 Big headline about the NRA warning President Bush or President Trump

00:06:43.440 and warning him that his supporters just aren't going to be supportive of gun control.

00:06:50.660 I really believe that's true.

00:06:52.620 I think even the hardest core of Trump supporters would oppose getting into gun control legislation

00:07:00.620 or gun control executive orders.

00:07:04.060 And he's seemingly, according to these stories, been asking around with his aides, people close to him.

00:07:11.280 And he's also said it publicly that he wants to go after it.

00:07:14.320 Yeah.

00:07:14.520 You know, he hasn't been specific.

00:07:15.900 So what does that mean?

00:07:16.880 I mean, you know, he wants to have expanded background checks and, I mean, red flag laws.

00:07:24.100 And he's spoken, you know, some support for those ideas.

00:07:28.760 But, you know, in passing and walking up to a plane, who knows what this actually means.

00:07:33.260 That being said, when you go after a core belief of your voting bloc, you risk things, even when you are incredibly popular.

00:07:46.320 I mean, you know, George W. Bush came out of his re-election, beat John Kerry, was incredibly popular.

00:07:52.240 And this was 05-06 when he did the comprehensive immigration reform thing.

00:07:56.160 And so one of the first things he did was to use some of his political capital to go after immigration reform.

00:08:03.020 And that was what essentially destroyed his presidency.

00:08:06.220 Really hurt him.

00:08:06.700 You know, there were multiple things.

00:08:08.160 I'll also give you Harriet Myers as a Supreme Court nominee, which the base rejected.

00:08:14.160 And in addition to that, his handling of Katrina really wiped out a lot of his, you know,

00:08:20.020 he really was known as sort of the competent in crisis sort of president because of everything that happened with 9-11.

00:08:26.600 The war, though, started turning the wrong way.

00:08:29.300 And then Katrina happened.

00:08:30.880 And, you know, while the reporting on a lot of that was really bad and a lot of that wasn't him, you know, screwing those things up, it still didn't help at all.

00:08:38.300 But really, it was never that, it was never a big deal.

00:08:42.540 People were like, oh, well, his, you know, people lost faith in him because of Katrina.

00:08:45.520 Well, some did, right?

00:08:47.800 But it was never a case of...

00:08:49.640 I don't think a lot of conservatives lost faith in him because of Katrina.

00:08:52.640 They knew that wasn't his fault.

00:08:53.660 The difference in his presidency between Term 1 and Term 2 was not that the people in general lost faith in Bush.

00:09:01.960 It was that his actual, the conservatives did.

00:09:05.160 Yeah.

00:09:05.480 Because of things like immigration reform, they were like, look, I mean, he's not even, you know, we'll walk through him with a lot of this stuff.

00:09:11.640 If he makes a mistake, we're okay.

00:09:12.960 But, like, this is violating, he's trying to do something against us.

00:09:16.460 Yes.

00:09:16.720 You know, it's not that he screwed up.

00:09:18.540 He's trying to do something that we don't, like, he's coming after our core values.

00:09:22.680 And conservatives were making a lot of noise about it.

00:09:25.960 Yeah.

00:09:26.060 How much they opposed it.

00:09:27.280 And we don't want you to do this.

00:09:29.020 Well, he tried to do it anyway, and that did hurt him.

00:09:31.420 And they stopped it.

00:09:32.140 And then later, yes, conservatives did stop it.

00:09:35.560 Later, he also, not only did he still want the comprehensive immigration reform, but then he went after the border patrol agents.

00:09:42.600 Ramos and Campion.

00:09:44.140 Mm-hmm.

00:09:44.980 And would not budge on that at all until the day he left office.

00:09:50.920 Those guys languished in jail for a couple of years because, you know, they shot a drug dealer in the butt who, by the way, they thought had a gun and was aiming it at them.

00:10:01.760 And so that really hurt him, too.

00:10:04.140 And when he sided, then he further sided with Mexico as Mexico tried to stop the execution of that heinous illegal immigrant from 1993 who raped and murdered two 15-year-old girls in Houston.

00:10:22.880 And he'd been on death row for quite some time.

00:10:27.320 And Bush sided with Mexico against Texas for that.

00:10:31.140 Yeah, right.

00:10:31.660 And those were all huge issues, I remember, for the audience at the time.

00:10:35.100 And it turned his base.

00:10:36.000 And that was a violation of something they believed was, you know, a core value, rule of law on the border.

00:10:43.800 And it was something that really, you know, I think really was the thing that turned his presidency from what was beforehand largely on partisan lines.

00:10:55.880 You know, certainly after 9-11, he was much more popular than that.

00:10:58.800 But, you know, it had come down to a point where Republicans basically liked Bush and Democrats basically didn't.

00:11:03.580 And after that, that Republican support eroded.

00:11:07.280 And the reason we bring this up is because when, you know, Trump risks a lot violating a core belief of his own audience.

00:11:14.620 Yeah, and this is definitely one of those.

00:11:15.940 Yeah, I mean, it's risky, man.

00:11:17.460 Second Amendment is pretty core for a lot of people.

00:11:18.920 You know, if he wants to win this election, you know, I was talking to David Harris Jr.

00:11:23.120 Who's, you know, he's on News and White Matters.

00:11:25.260 And he's a big social media personality, very pro-Trump.

00:11:28.380 And we were talking about this.

00:11:31.100 And he said, you know, look, my audience is pissed off about this.

00:11:35.380 Now, David's audience is very pro-Trump.

00:11:37.660 I mean, he's a very pro-Trump guy.

00:11:39.000 Loves him.

00:11:39.420 He's been to the White House a bunch of times.

00:11:41.040 Like, he is, you know, in that pocket completely.

00:11:43.580 You know, he is the, you know, he's a loyal guy.

00:11:47.120 He believes that Trump is doing a great job.

00:11:49.360 And he said his audience is doing the same thing.

00:11:51.580 They are really scared about this.

00:11:54.620 They do not want him to do this.

00:11:56.200 And he made the point, and this point is true, that, look, right now they're going to be mad about this.

00:12:02.220 But when it comes down to it, what, are they going to vote for Elizabeth Warren?

00:12:04.700 What are you going to do?

00:12:06.000 I mean, like, you're going to have a choice there.

00:12:07.520 And that's true.

00:12:08.320 That is a good point.

00:12:08.780 Yeah.

00:12:08.980 When it comes down to it, he's still going to be a better choice than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

00:12:13.460 The issue, though, is you have passion.

00:12:15.800 Enthusiasm.

00:12:16.660 You know, some people, you know, look, are they all going to turn out?

00:12:19.280 Are they going to donate?

00:12:20.200 Are they going to campaign?

00:12:21.460 Are they going to be telling every one of their friends how great Trump is?

00:12:24.120 Or are they going to be like, well, I mean, look, he's better.

00:12:27.120 And, you know, he pisses me off on this issue.

00:12:28.780 But I'll pull the lever for him without all of that extra stuff.

00:12:32.760 You know, one of the big stories, I think, of Trump's presidency has been passion.

00:12:37.140 You know, you have a really passionate base that's going to go out there.

00:12:40.080 They're going to fight for this guy no matter what.

00:12:42.200 And if you start eroding that, if you start just on the edges, you know, you can't afford to lose a lot of votes.

00:12:50.140 This is an election.

00:12:51.260 Remember, obviously, not that this matters electorally, but he didn't, you know, he lost the popular vote.

00:12:56.240 This is a, so, and I don't say that to say that, like, oh, he lost.

00:12:59.280 I say that to say it was close.

00:13:00.680 It was a lot closer than memory might serve you if you look at the electoral college.

00:13:05.620 Yeah.

00:13:05.640 I mean, basically, it was about 70,000 votes that were the difference in that election.

00:13:09.140 That's not a lot.

00:13:10.380 No, it's not.

00:13:11.340 And, you know, so you have to be careful.

00:13:13.640 And you start going after Second Amendment rights.

00:13:15.680 And that might just be enough to take away at the fringe and give us some socialists to come in here and be president of the United States.

00:13:23.360 And nobody wants that.

00:13:25.380 At least I don't.

00:13:26.660 Uh, yeah.

00:13:27.680 Me neither.

00:13:28.500 And we've, I think we've mentioned that a couple of times.

00:13:30.960 You don't want a socialist as a president of the United States?

00:13:32.540 Yeah, I think I have.

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00:15:02.260 Biden is out there campaigning really hard and really impressing people.

00:15:09.240 He really is.

00:15:10.080 He's saying some powerful things right now.

00:15:13.120 Yeah, he's having his troubles, Pat.

00:15:16.180 I think there's something about Biden right now where his brain is working at a different pace as his mouth.

00:15:25.860 I don't know how to describe it exactly.

00:15:28.680 He seems off.

00:15:30.120 He seems off.

00:15:30.760 Doesn't he?

00:15:31.140 I mean, even more than usual for Joe.

00:15:33.540 And you can tell in this particular instance, he catches what he's done almost immediately.

00:15:39.320 I love it.

00:15:39.880 And you can hear him try to retroactively act as if he meant to say what he said.

00:15:45.740 He tries to fix it.

00:15:46.700 Yes, he tries.

00:15:47.580 And you give him credit for at least recognizing it in the moment.

00:15:50.080 But here it is talking about poor kids and their talent levels.

00:15:58.260 Listen very closely.

00:15:59.940 And the other thing we should do is we should challenge these students.

00:16:03.380 We should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these schools.

00:16:07.720 We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it.

00:16:12.500 Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

00:16:15.420 Wealthy kids, white kids, Asian kids.

00:16:20.060 I don't really mean it, but think how we think about it.

00:16:22.120 I love that.

00:16:23.820 Poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

00:16:28.440 And wealthy kids.

00:16:30.860 And white kids.

00:16:31.500 Fat kids and skinny kids and kids who climb on rocks.

00:16:34.780 And, you know, the tough kids.

00:16:36.960 The sissy kids and those ones who have chicken pox.

00:16:42.420 It's so great.

00:16:43.640 I'm surprised you didn't just go right into that rhyme.

00:16:45.700 Because he says white kids.

00:16:48.880 So, in other words, like, I mean, in case you're missing that.

00:16:50.980 Like, only black kids are poor.

00:16:52.440 Only black kids are poor.

00:16:53.060 Right?

00:16:53.640 So, of course, if a Republican said this, it is the end of your career.

00:16:57.460 Had this been Trump, it would be the only thing that mainstream media talked about.

00:17:03.280 Absolute proof of his white supremacy.

00:17:05.100 Yes.

00:17:05.420 Right?

00:17:05.640 If you are not calling him a racist as a journalist tomorrow, you are a heathen.

00:17:09.580 Yep.

00:17:10.440 But with Joe Biden, it's just him screwing up, I'm sure.

00:17:13.500 That's the way they'll spin this.

00:17:14.860 I would be very concerned if I was a Democrat and thought Biden was the most delectable.

00:17:20.240 Because too many of these things, man.

00:17:21.820 He does this.

00:17:22.420 He did this a lot back then.

00:17:24.260 He's getting much, much worse now.

00:17:26.080 Yeah, he is.

00:17:26.620 This is a bad.

00:17:28.200 Poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

00:17:30.740 And then he says, so then he realizes what I should have said is wealthy kids.

00:17:34.340 So then he says wealthy kids.

00:17:35.600 Then he remembers, like, wait, I already said white kids.

00:17:38.220 People heard it.

00:17:38.740 I better say it again.

00:17:39.960 Then he goes to white kids again.

00:17:41.120 Then he goes to Asian kids.

00:17:43.640 Like, all I was saying was every group I could think of.

00:17:46.060 I swear.

00:17:46.780 I mean, it's bad.

00:17:47.980 It is bad.

00:17:48.480 And he just does, his mind is not, it's not sharp.

00:17:52.880 And you have a couple of these moments early on in your campaign.

00:17:55.860 You can deal with it.

00:17:57.360 But the problem is not whether he can keep it all together.

00:18:02.880 The problem, the questions begin when enough Democratic primary voters see this and say,

00:18:08.700 jeez, Trump's going to be all over him for this stuff.

00:18:11.220 He's going to lose to Trump.

00:18:12.740 When, when, because that's all you have with Biden.

00:18:14.820 All you have with Biden is electability.

00:18:17.340 People believe Biden can beat Trump.

00:18:19.880 So if Biden's electability goes away, there's no reason to stay with Biden.

00:18:25.320 And I think a lot of people are only within, because of that electability, they'd rather

00:18:29.180 have somebody who's willing to go further to the extreme left.

00:18:34.340 Right.

00:18:34.860 They'd rather have that, but they just don't think Bernie Sanders can win.

00:18:38.040 Right.

00:18:38.560 They don't think Elizabeth Warren can win, but I, I got to see this one more time because

00:18:42.160 it's absolutely priceless.

00:18:43.360 This is great stuff.

00:18:44.340 And the other thing we should do is you should challenge these students.

00:18:47.380 We should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these

00:18:51.100 schools.

00:18:51.580 We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it.

00:18:56.180 Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

00:19:00.760 Wealthy kids.

00:19:01.660 White kids.

00:19:02.980 Asian kids.

00:19:04.060 Asian kids.

00:19:04.900 Think about it.

00:19:06.320 I love that.

00:19:06.700 If that was Trump, again, they would be, we just don't know what to do.

00:19:08.540 He just got a glimpse into what, what's in his heart.

00:19:10.580 Yes.

00:19:10.760 He tried to cover it up, but it was too late because he really showed us what he thinks.

00:19:14.020 Yeah.

00:19:14.360 And in that moment, and that's that white people are supreme.

00:19:16.660 Right.

00:19:16.900 I mean, that's a white supremacist argument.

00:19:18.700 Yes.

00:19:18.940 Right.

00:19:19.400 White people are, he's trying to be basically said, oh, I swear.

00:19:22.560 The other thing I love about this is he said, poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

00:19:29.160 There's one person in the audience who wholeheartedly agrees with him on this point.

00:19:32.900 It's clapped right away.

00:19:34.080 It just claps right away.

00:19:34.700 It's like, yeah, somebody finally said it.

00:19:37.280 Yes.

00:19:38.120 Poor kids are as good as white kids.

00:19:40.740 Wow.

00:19:41.500 Well, Bush kind of said it a while ago.

00:19:43.140 The president, George W.

00:19:44.600 Let me make it very clear.

00:19:45.840 Poor people aren't necessarily killers.

00:19:48.260 It's kind of the same thing, right?

00:19:49.680 Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill.

00:19:53.180 I love that.

00:19:53.780 So, in other words, poor kids aren't necessarily killers either.

00:19:57.980 Right.

00:19:58.340 Now, they might be.

00:19:59.520 They probably are, but not necessarily do they kill just because they're not rich.

00:20:07.120 Oh, man.

00:20:07.840 That's a pretty interesting one.

00:20:09.120 Priceless.

00:20:09.540 How many of those do you get?

00:20:11.860 Gaffes like that?

00:20:12.660 Every day, one of these things happen.

00:20:14.440 There's another half a percent of the Democratic primary voters that say, I don't think I want

00:20:22.280 to risk this.

00:20:22.980 I don't think I want to risk it.

00:20:24.120 This is going to happen on a big stage, and he's going to wind up losing by 10 points.

00:20:27.280 The other problem are the voters.

00:20:29.520 I mean, the donors.

00:20:30.800 The donors for Biden are going to be thinking, wow, is he just losing it?

00:20:34.320 Can I afford to pump more money into this guy or his political action committees?

00:20:38.440 I don't think so.

00:20:39.640 Yeah.

00:20:40.000 At some point, that will happen, too, where it'll cast a doubt on the people who are fueling

00:20:46.980 his campaign, and then he's in real trouble.

00:20:49.620 Yeah.

00:20:50.120 Think of Peyton Manning's last year.

00:20:51.960 He started his quarterback, and he was a great quarterback.

00:20:54.720 Now, Joe Biden was never a great politician.

00:20:56.480 He's never won a big race like this.

00:20:57.900 But towards that end of that year, you could tell he was still like he kind of knew what

00:21:02.700 he was doing generally, but the throws just didn't have snap on him anymore.

00:21:05.800 They weren't getting to the targets.

00:21:06.920 There were bad interceptions.

00:21:07.880 It looked like he was done.

00:21:09.440 Now, he wound up winning the Super Bowl.

00:21:11.600 So maybe that's what happens here with Biden.

00:21:13.640 But it just looks like he's lost it.

00:21:17.160 He's definitely lost a step.

00:21:18.400 Yeah.

00:21:18.720 Or two.

00:21:19.880 Maybe more.

00:21:20.720 Yeah.

00:21:21.080 Maybe more.

00:21:21.800 Maybe more.

00:21:22.400 Or 10.

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00:22:31.400 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:22:33.760 You know, despite his gaffes, Biden's still holding up pretty well in the polls.

00:22:38.880 I mean, I haven't seen a lot of erosion.

00:22:41.120 Have you?

00:22:41.620 You follow the polls closer than I do.

00:22:43.980 Yeah, no, there hasn't been a...

00:22:44.840 After the first debate, he did drop a bunch.

00:22:47.660 He regained probably about two-thirds of that drop in the interim.

00:22:52.160 Yeah.

00:22:52.620 He's still around 2830 now, right?

00:22:54.580 Yeah, but he was a little higher than that before.

00:22:56.960 He...

00:22:57.680 The one thing, if you want to look for a problem area in Biden, they...

00:23:01.200 A lot of times will, you know, some of these polls will break out the voters who are paying

00:23:06.620 close attention and who are not paying close attention.

00:23:09.680 So if you break it out like that, people who are paying close attention, which eventually

00:23:13.980 everyone gets to, right?

00:23:15.120 As you get closer to voting, everyone's paying close attention.

00:23:18.260 Right now, it's split.

00:23:19.240 Half of the people who are voting are not even...

00:23:21.400 They know basically kind of what's going on, but they're not following it.

00:23:24.100 The people who are following it, Biden does much worse among those people.

00:23:28.240 So that could be an indication of weakness, right?

00:23:31.620 When people start really watching it, really knowing who, let's say, Kamala Harris is, they

00:23:35.820 might gravitate to her.

00:23:37.380 She does much better among people who are watching the election more closely.

00:23:41.840 So that is a potential area of weakness, but he's still...

00:23:46.000 I mean, look, it's still his to choke.

00:23:48.800 It's his election to lose when it comes to this Democratic primary.

00:23:53.040 And he is very good at losing.

00:23:57.060 So it is very possible.

00:23:59.860 We said this from the beginning.

00:24:00.920 It is...

00:24:01.420 He's the favorite.

00:24:02.500 He should be thought of in some ways in his own tier of candidates.

00:24:06.220 It's really only...

00:24:08.300 The only way Joe Biden should lose this election is if he blows it.

00:24:11.720 But he blows it all the time.

00:24:13.400 Every time he gets on stage, he finds a new way to blow it.

00:24:16.260 And he did it, what, two or three times yesterday.

00:24:18.400 We played the clip where he said, poor kids are as talented as white kids.

00:24:22.060 That's not a good moment.

00:24:23.280 Oops.

00:24:24.300 How about this one?

00:24:25.080 This is from...

00:24:26.000 Talking about truth.

00:24:27.820 You got to choose truth, Pat.

00:24:29.800 Right.

00:24:30.120 Choose truth over something else.

00:24:32.200 Let's listen.

00:24:33.600 We choose unity over division.

00:24:35.240 We choose science over fiction.

00:24:37.540 Right.

00:24:37.780 We choose truth over facts.

00:24:40.540 So, folks...

00:24:41.920 Wait.

00:24:42.660 If you're interested, join me.

00:24:44.260 I could use the help.

00:24:45.880 Because you must...

00:24:47.140 Must defeat this president to change the trajectory of this country.

00:24:52.220 Right.

00:24:52.500 Now, go to Joe30330 to join him.

00:24:58.160 Do that now.

00:24:59.700 So, truth over facts.

00:25:02.860 Huh.

00:25:03.200 I don't know exactly what...

00:25:06.020 He's got a narrow little lane there he's trying to fit himself through.

00:25:09.460 I'm not sure exactly...

00:25:11.420 How do we choose the truth over a fact?

00:25:14.460 Something that's true.

00:25:15.880 Right.

00:25:16.380 Over something that's factual.

00:25:18.260 Hmm.

00:25:19.220 Well, well...

00:25:19.740 Is there such a thing?

00:25:20.720 We'll have to sort that one out.

00:25:21.940 You know, I don't know if we'll have time to sort it out, though, because we have to go through his long list of accomplishments as vice president first.

00:25:27.280 Okay.

00:25:27.540 Now, this is a guy who, with Obama, worked to get incredible things done.

00:25:33.060 Mm-hmm.

00:25:33.680 Massive things that would just change the dynamic of our entire world, Pat.

00:25:39.980 Mm-hmm.

00:25:40.340 So, he was asked about his number one accomplishment as vice president, and this is what he came up with.

00:25:47.400 Say again, I'm sorry?

00:25:48.300 The administration had eight years to deal with China.

00:25:50.820 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:25:52.200 We did an awful lot with China, and what we did with China, first of all, was we got them to join the Paris Peace Accord, the Climate Accord.

00:25:59.620 Oh.

00:25:59.840 We got them to change the direction in a number of areas in terms of foreign policy.

00:26:05.260 Wow.

00:26:06.100 The Paris Accord that we're no longer a part of?

00:26:09.500 And not only that, the Paris Accord that does absolutely nothing?

00:26:13.580 Absolutely nothing.

00:26:14.460 Yeah, but climate denier Al Gore, listen to what he said about Paris.

00:26:18.220 Even if all 195 nations, not 194, met their targets, it still wouldn't solve the problem.

00:26:24.800 That is correct.

00:26:26.060 However, it sends a very powerful signal.

00:26:30.140 Okay, that is correct.

00:26:33.020 However, it sends a very powerful signal.

00:26:40.300 Okay, so we're just sending signals now for trillions of dollars?

00:26:44.480 Trillions of dollars.

00:26:45.260 You could sell a hell of it.

00:26:46.140 You could throw a good party with trillions of dollars and a nice signal, which is both of those are worth it, I'm sure.

00:26:53.200 You know, it's interesting because the Paris Climate Accord, if fully implemented and fully followed,

00:26:58.800 which is a standard that does not exist.

00:27:01.740 These things never occur.

00:27:03.420 You do not fully follow a climate treaty.

00:27:05.840 It's never been done.

00:27:07.300 You know, it's just not what you do.

00:27:08.760 Because these countries, you know, some of it is, you know, absolutely trying their best and failing.

00:27:16.480 Some of it is, you know, in the cases of places like China, well, you just say you're hitting these goals and don't.

00:27:23.760 Right?

00:27:24.080 Who's who?

00:27:24.920 How does anyone know?

00:27:26.300 You're saying, well, yeah, we're going to turn off all the fossil fuel factories.

00:27:31.000 We've got a new system going on.

00:27:32.940 Less emissions.

00:27:34.300 People aren't going to know.

00:27:35.660 It's not until much later on that they figure out how much carbon you released.

00:27:38.440 It's an invisible gas, difficult to deal with on an international level.

00:27:43.340 So the way this Paris Climate Accord worked was to limit all of these emissions for each country with these things called INDCs.

00:27:53.800 Now, NDC stands for Nationally Determined Contributions.

00:27:57.440 How many, how much, how much, how many, you know, tons of CO2 and other warming gases have you released?

00:28:05.380 How much, what are your emissions?

00:28:07.240 NDC.

00:28:07.940 The I in that is intended.

00:28:10.280 So legitimately, it is based on something called Intended Nationally Determined Contributions.

00:28:15.800 This is what we intend to do.

00:28:17.980 That is what the treaty is about.

00:28:19.400 Intentions.

00:28:20.540 Now, it doesn't bind anybody.

00:28:22.120 It doesn't hold anybody to anything.

00:28:23.580 It's just, ah, we think we'll do around here.

00:28:26.280 This is about the level that we think we'll do.

00:28:28.480 If fully implemented with people who's, who got into this telling you, not that we're going to do these things, but we just intend to do these things.

00:28:36.920 If you got all of it done by the year 2100, if all the science is right and everyone were to participate, it would go from, we would supposedly save 0.05 degrees Celsius.

00:28:50.480 Which means, instead of the Earth warming as much as, let's say, 4.5 degrees, it would be 4.45 degrees.

00:28:57.540 That is legitimately what the Paris Accord does.

00:29:00.140 Which is nothing.

00:29:01.100 I mean, it would make absolutely no difference.

00:29:02.780 You'd delay global warming by a few years if all of these countries came together and blew up their economies like they would for the Paris Climate Accord.

00:29:12.040 Not, not, not worth it.

00:29:13.640 But, like, this is not something that is...

00:29:17.380 What about the powerful signal it sends?

00:29:21.620 What about that?

00:29:22.680 What about the powerful signal?

00:29:24.480 And that is really what they're doing, right?

00:29:27.200 Yeah, they're sending a signal.

00:29:28.680 Look, we intend to do something.

00:29:30.500 We'd like to do something.

00:29:31.920 Yeah.

00:29:32.140 We're just not doing anything, because there's really...

00:29:35.740 I think even they know, deep down, we can't control the climate.

00:29:40.820 No.

00:29:41.360 Try as we may, we can't control it.

00:29:44.180 We can't...

00:29:45.400 It's lunacy.

00:29:47.600 It's lunacy.

00:29:48.460 So they have...

00:29:49.560 What they say is, we must stop, Pat.

00:29:51.960 You know, within 12 years, this is going to be irreversible.

00:29:55.240 Unless you're Beto, then it's 10.

00:29:57.640 Then it's 10.

00:29:58.260 Yeah.

00:29:58.440 And by the way, the, of that particular study, which is a different study, but that particular

00:30:03.060 study, the authors of it said, no, that is not what we're saying.

00:30:06.240 We're not saying it's 10 years.

00:30:07.600 We're not saying it's 12 years.

00:30:08.800 That is not what the study says.

00:30:10.080 Thank you for asking us so that we can keep, so people stop saying it.

00:30:13.500 And then I heard Bernie Sanders...

00:30:14.360 And then they don't stop.

00:30:15.100 Heard Bernie Sanders on Joe Rogan the other day saying it again.

00:30:17.340 They're still saying it.

00:30:18.400 These, the scientists from the study have fact-checked this and said it's not true.

00:30:22.660 And all these candidates are still saying it.

00:30:24.520 But the Paris Accord, as implemented, would save 33 gigatons, 33 gigatons of CO2.

00:30:34.520 Okay.

00:30:34.780 Well, that sounds like a lot.

00:30:35.640 Sounds like a lot.

00:30:36.440 A lot.

00:30:36.960 How much would you need to stop global warming and all these horrible effects?

00:30:40.880 Just the worst effects.

00:30:41.800 That wouldn't stop global warming.

00:30:42.780 What are the worst effects?

00:30:43.960 You'd have to save 3,066 gigatons.

00:30:47.920 So if you'll notice there, there's, it's a higher number.

00:30:51.720 Oh, yeah, the gigatons they are saving or intend to save is lower than the necessary

00:30:57.620 savings.

00:30:58.560 Yes.

00:30:59.400 Okay.

00:30:59.800 So their promises are 1 100th of what they say is necessary.

00:31:04.660 Jeez.

00:31:05.180 And that's just their promises.

00:31:06.980 So that is how ridiculous this is.

00:31:09.680 And it would make no difference.

00:31:13.340 No difference at all.

00:31:15.080 Yet, that is his biggest accomplishment as vice president.

00:31:19.580 That's pretty good.

00:31:20.720 Way to go, middle class Joe.

00:31:24.180 That is terrific.

00:31:25.400 And it's something that was immediately reversed when he lost an election.

00:31:29.300 The next guy came in and was like, nah.

00:31:31.360 Right.

00:31:31.660 That's not an accomplishment.

00:31:33.620 Nothing was accomplished with this treaty.

00:31:35.540 Even if they stayed in it, nothing would be accomplished, but they couldn't even stay

00:31:38.480 in it.

00:31:39.420 This is how bad, I mean, he really doesn't have a record.

00:31:41.840 That's why he keeps saying Obama every five minutes.

00:31:43.740 And can we bring this up one more time?

00:31:46.960 Joe Biden was selected, handpicked, as the second best person in America to be president

00:31:53.380 by Barack Obama.

00:31:54.780 Okay?

00:31:56.360 Picking a vice president is not just something, oh, I wanted to win Delaware really badly.

00:32:00.940 He picked Joe Biden because, in his mind, this guy was the second best person behind himself

00:32:07.360 to be president of the United States.

00:32:10.160 Now they're on the debate stage.

00:32:12.040 All of these candidates are attacking Barack Obama's record and saying, you suck, you suck,

00:32:17.500 you suck.

00:32:17.860 The only person standing up for him is Joe Biden, and Barack Obama still won't endorse

00:32:23.620 him.

00:32:25.920 Think about that statement.

00:32:27.960 Well, Joe asked him not to, in all fairness, Stu.

00:32:32.320 Joe really thought it'd be unfair to the rest of the field to get the endorsement from Barack

00:32:36.420 Obama.

00:32:36.640 Wouldn't that be something-

00:32:37.480 He asked him not to.

00:32:38.140 Would that not be something you'd be interested in, making it unfair for the rest of the field

00:32:41.800 if you believe this guy was the second best man to be president of the United States?

00:32:45.220 I guess, yes.

00:32:45.860 You'd want that to be the case, right?

00:32:47.880 Yes.

00:32:48.140 You'd want him to win because you think he's really good.

00:32:51.020 And, not to mention, he's the only person defending your record.

00:32:54.540 And Obama's still silent on it.

00:32:57.260 I mean, that is a hell of a statement.

00:32:59.060 I don't know if he thinks-

00:33:00.280 It makes me honestly think that Obama knows something about Biden that we don't.

00:33:08.800 Whether it's performance level, whether it is, you know, something he said-

00:33:16.580 Yeah, potentially.

00:33:17.380 Yeah.

00:33:17.680 I mean, or it's just something he says, an attitude he had behind the scenes that he

00:33:21.640 wasn't aware of initially.

00:33:23.460 I don't know what it is, but that is a devastating thing.

00:33:27.500 You're telling me George W. Bush doesn't endorse Dick Cheney if he runs for president?

00:33:32.320 Of course he does.

00:33:32.620 Of course he does.

00:33:33.400 Yeah.

00:33:33.520 Listen, immediately.

00:33:35.100 I mean, I, you know, and look, I can understand at some level saying, well, you're going to

00:33:40.280 hold off.

00:33:40.780 It's a big primary, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:43.000 But like, the way this has played out, I heard, I was listening to ABC News today.

00:33:49.340 And they, it is so prominent now that ABC News this morning says, and you know, Joe

00:33:54.100 Biden, Joe Biden was with Barack Obama and Barack Obama was known as the deporter-in-chief

00:33:58.800 and blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:59.900 What are you talking about?

00:34:01.000 He was not known as the deporter-in-chief.

00:34:02.940 Not when he was president.

00:34:04.520 This is something that's coming around right now.

00:34:06.860 Like we really, I was actually thinking, I would love to do, I was hosting the TV show

00:34:10.460 the last couple of weeks, but if I had another, if I had more time to do, if I was doing

00:34:14.020 it next week as well, I'm not, Glenn is back.

00:34:15.660 But I would, I think I would do a monologue about, in defense of Barack Obama.

00:34:19.560 And just like, let me tell you, let me tell you Democrats, I'm going to defend him here.

00:34:23.400 He actually sucked on the border.

00:34:25.100 So don't worry about it.

00:34:26.040 He was not good.

00:34:27.180 Yes, he deported a bunch of criminal aliens and his numbers were high in that one regard,

00:34:32.780 but he was not good on the border.

00:34:34.300 Don't worry.

00:34:34.980 Plenty of illegal immigrants came across.

00:34:36.880 The main reason those numbers were lower is because the economy was so bad, largely due

00:34:42.160 to his presidency.

00:34:43.000 And what, of course, what led into it, but what, why it was so bad for so long was because

00:34:48.000 of the way he handled it.

00:34:49.080 And that led to people not really wanting to come all that badly here.

00:34:52.920 So yes, some of those numbers went down, but don't worry.

00:34:55.360 He was really cool about letting everybody come across the border.

00:34:57.940 Don't bash this guy.

00:34:59.360 You love him.

00:35:00.720 It's like, they've lost all connection.

00:35:02.560 It's Pat and Stu.

00:35:07.560 For Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, 888-727-BECK.

00:35:12.160 Say what you will about Joe Biden.

00:35:13.920 The guy is incredibly generous to the rest of the field.

00:35:17.900 Who could forget his generosity?

00:35:19.520 Why didn't President Obama endorse him?

00:35:24.160 I asked President Obama not to endorse.

00:35:26.700 He doesn't want to.

00:35:28.160 We should.

00:35:29.080 Whoever wins his nomination should win it on their own merits.

00:35:32.240 Okay.

00:35:33.280 All right.

00:35:33.680 He asked him not to.

00:35:34.940 He just, come on.

00:35:35.980 It's not fair to say Elizabeth Warren if Obama got into this, too, on my side.

00:35:41.920 Right.

00:35:42.180 Because I wouldn't want to have an advantage in this competition to run the free world.

00:35:46.480 I wouldn't want that.

00:35:48.420 So ludicrous.

00:35:49.500 That would be so wrong.

00:35:50.840 You know, and Barack was on his way.

00:35:52.140 He's walking up to the podium.

00:35:53.100 And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, Barack.

00:35:55.000 Don't.

00:35:56.420 No.

00:35:57.180 Just for, just on issues of fairness.

00:36:00.220 Fairness.

00:36:01.200 I want to spread the votes around.

00:36:03.460 Yeah.

00:36:03.800 People, you know, you've got a 95% approval rating among the Democratic voters right now.

00:36:08.200 So why would I want your endorsement?

00:36:10.460 Now, sure, you're at 99 among black voters.

00:36:13.160 And it's not 99 to 1.

00:36:14.540 It's literally 99 to 0 with 1% undecided.

00:36:17.600 But I don't want, I don't want your help.

00:36:19.880 That would not be helpful to me at all.

00:36:22.140 Now, I'm going to say your name in every answer I give the entire campaign.

00:36:27.440 I'm going to invoke your presidency and try to be on your coattails the whole time.

00:36:32.080 But no, please don't tell everyone that I would be the best guy to continue your legacy.

00:36:37.140 I mean, this is just absurd.

00:36:38.900 Of course, it would be game changing.

00:36:40.440 I said, when I was watching the debate and they were all beating up on, on Obama's presidency, I was right, you know, live tweeting the event.

00:36:47.620 I was like, the best thing that could happen right now.

00:36:49.320 I just want to see it happen is Barack Obama sitting at home and he's watching this and they're all just attacking his Barack Obama's presidency.

00:36:59.280 And Joe Biden's the only one up there defending him.

00:37:02.160 Just in the, one of the, they go to commercial and Barack Obama tweets his endorsement.

00:37:06.360 And they come back and they've got to ask all these people and see it on their faces that they realize that Obama has endorsed Joe Biden.

00:37:12.420 Because I know that this audience, Obama's endorsement means nothing.

00:37:15.840 It means I'm going to vote for somebody else.

00:37:17.220 Oh, to Democrats, it's everything.

00:37:18.400 But to Democrats, the guy's God still.

00:37:19.820 Yeah.

00:37:20.120 I mean, he still is.

00:37:21.240 You know, he didn't go as socialist as they want today.

00:37:24.220 But that's revisionist history.

00:37:25.620 It is, and that's largely from the political class.

00:37:28.920 The average voter who is a Democrat sees Obama's presidency as very positive and sees it even more positively because they really don't like Trump.

00:37:37.940 So this guy, if Barack Obama were to come out and say, look, Joe Biden's the guy, he should be the next president of the United States.

00:37:42.940 Puts him over the edge, I think.

00:37:43.900 It does.

00:37:44.320 It probably does.

00:37:45.580 Now, he could still screw it up.

00:37:47.080 Joe is an expert at this.

00:37:48.200 But it would put him up by another 10 points.

00:37:50.240 It's a big, that's a big endorsement in the Democratic primary.

00:37:52.520 The fact that Joe acts as if he doesn't want it is absurd.

00:37:55.620 If he didn't want it, he wouldn't be bringing his name up in every answer at every debate.

00:37:59.200 Right.

00:38:00.600 888-727-BECK.

00:38:03.100 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:38:08.780 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:38:12.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:14.520 With Pat and Stu.

00:38:15.620 Pat Gray, Stu Bergear.

00:38:17.140 You can check out Pat Gray Unleashed every weekday morning.

00:38:21.400 It's on 6 to 8 Central, which is 7 to 9 Eastern.

00:38:24.260 And then if you don't like to get up that early in the morning, you can listen to it anytime you want on a podcast, wherever you get those podcasts.

00:38:30.100 Like iTunes or SoundCloud, MySpace.

00:38:33.460 There's a little bit too much urgency in your show.

00:38:35.480 You're really covering the news of the day.

00:38:36.820 I like to listen to podcasts from several months ago.

00:38:39.660 Are those available?

00:38:41.340 Yes.

00:38:41.760 Okay.

00:38:42.000 Yes, you can listen to those as well.

00:38:43.800 I like to just know what's going on.

00:38:44.940 What was the news of the day in April?

00:38:47.080 Yeah, we have that.

00:38:48.040 We have that.

00:38:48.600 That's available.

00:38:49.220 I can get that anytime.

00:38:49.780 It is available anytime.

00:38:50.480 I just don't want to pay as much as I need to probably.

00:38:52.480 It's probably too expensive.

00:38:53.680 How does $0 sound?

00:38:55.820 Wow.

00:38:56.260 Yeah.

00:38:56.520 Very good.

00:38:57.200 Yeah.

00:38:57.580 Very good.

00:38:58.260 It's an incredible bargain.

00:38:59.640 It's a good value.

00:39:00.280 Yeah.

00:39:00.420 Normally that sells for $99.95.

00:39:02.260 $99.99.

00:39:02.780 Really?

00:39:03.140 Yeah.

00:39:03.580 Wow.

00:39:03.760 But now it's free to, it's 100% off.

00:39:08.520 Wow.

00:39:09.080 Yeah.

00:39:09.460 Well, I mean, you know, Pat.

00:39:10.520 Limited time only, of course.

00:39:11.620 I think you might want to raise those prices because I think you're about to be boycotted.

00:39:15.720 Really?

00:39:16.220 I do.

00:39:16.780 I do.

00:39:17.360 I've been hearing a lot about this.

00:39:19.520 And my understanding is if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative, you need to be boycotted.

00:39:24.140 If you voted for Donald Trump, especially.

00:39:26.060 Well, because you're a white nationalist.

00:39:27.740 Right.

00:39:28.240 Right.

00:39:28.900 Automatically.

00:39:29.440 A racist and a white nationalist if you voted for Trump.

00:39:31.740 That is what MSNBC is letting you know.

00:39:35.100 And, I mean, they're just one example.

00:39:37.000 But this is an MSNBC analyst, Rick Stengel, talking about Trump supporters and whether you should boycott them or not.

00:39:43.120 Okay.

00:39:44.120 People boycotted apartheid products.

00:39:47.740 Remember, years ago, you wouldn't buy stock or product from any company that supported apartheid South Africa.

00:39:53.580 Why isn't there not that same thing with people who support Donald Trump and their products and their companies?

00:39:58.700 Great question.

00:39:58.880 And there has been with Equinox this past week.

00:40:01.320 Great question.

00:40:01.740 Oh, God.

00:40:02.060 I've got a lot of questions.

00:40:02.920 I'll take over there.

00:40:04.260 Why isn't there?

00:40:05.440 Why isn't the same thing, Pat?

00:40:07.000 Can you think of...

00:40:07.580 Let me...

00:40:07.880 I'm asking you this honestly.

00:40:09.500 You're a smart guy.

00:40:10.560 You put a lot of thoughts in the thing.

00:40:12.420 Can you think of one difference between 2019 America and apartheid South Africa?

00:40:17.820 Is there any...

00:40:18.780 No.

00:40:19.180 Is there any distinction...

00:40:20.300 No.

00:40:21.040 ...you would make between those?

00:40:23.060 Because there's a...

00:40:23.960 I can think of one minor one.

00:40:25.460 Can you?

00:40:26.000 Yes.

00:40:26.240 Because I'm hard-pressed.

00:40:27.300 I can't.

00:40:27.720 Want me to give it to you?

00:40:28.580 All right.

00:40:29.060 Northern Hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere.

00:40:30.420 Okay, that's...

00:40:31.240 That's the only thing I could come up with.

00:40:32.340 I should have found that one.

00:40:33.520 You know, I mean, it's so close.

00:40:35.220 Yeah.

00:40:35.620 It's basically the same policies.

00:40:38.240 As you know, black people are not allowed to be employed here in the United States.

00:40:42.160 They're all separate.

00:40:43.140 Now, some people would note that the black unemployment rate is as low as it's ever been in history.

00:40:49.500 Some people would note that and say maybe that's not the same situation as apartheid.

00:40:55.380 Maybe.

00:40:55.520 Maybe it's a little different.

00:40:57.180 Yeah, maybe.

00:40:57.760 Maybe stealing the land and raising the people and, I mean, the destruction that went on in apartheid South Africa, a tad different.

00:41:08.120 Isn't that the same guy who did the Nazi thing with him, too?

00:41:11.960 Didn't he?

00:41:12.900 Is that the same...

00:41:13.900 Is it the same guy?

00:41:14.580 I don't know.

00:41:14.760 I think it is.

00:41:15.480 I do remember that.

00:41:16.360 What is this guy's name?

00:41:17.320 Rick Stengel.

00:41:18.780 Wow.

00:41:19.320 Maybe it's a different guy.

00:41:20.520 Yeah, that guy was...

00:41:21.780 Was it Figliusi or something?

00:41:23.520 Oh, yeah.

00:41:23.900 Yeah, that was a different guy.

00:41:24.820 Yeah.

00:41:24.960 You're talking about the HH guy?

00:41:26.560 Yes.

00:41:27.020 He said because Donald Trump was putting the flag back up on August 8th.

00:41:31.820 That meant 8-8.

00:41:32.020 He thought it had Heil Hitler significance.

00:41:34.360 Yes, because 8-8 is H-H, the H-H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, so H-H equals Heil Hitler.

00:41:40.780 He said this on national television, by the way.

00:41:42.460 This was a point, a serious point made on national television.

00:41:44.940 Just like this one from apartheid.

00:41:46.880 And it's amazing.

00:41:48.300 Wow.

00:41:48.620 What I find most amazing about it, though, is not that there's people who are a little bit unhinged when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:41:54.840 We know that.

00:41:55.540 It's not people who are unhinged coming against any Republican president.

00:41:58.600 We know that happened.

00:41:59.240 I mean, they used to call Bush a terrorist every day on television.

00:42:01.700 I mean, this is not new.

00:42:02.600 What I'm fascinated about, though, is just the lack of ability to learn.

00:42:08.240 To learn a very important lesson.

00:42:11.220 Arguably, Hillary Clinton is not president of the United States because she made a statement about the Donald Trump supporters being a basket of deplorables.

00:42:22.420 You, of course, remember this.

00:42:23.700 It was one of the biggest things in the entire campaign.

00:42:26.160 And everyone went around and said, we're the deplorables.

00:42:27.860 And it became a rallying cry.

00:42:30.700 And remember, this election turned on three states and about 70,000 votes.

00:42:35.760 So this is not something that needed to be, you know, to take over the entire election.

00:42:39.780 It was a very close election.

00:42:41.640 And, you know, I think you could make a sensible argument that that moment for Hillary cost her the election.

00:42:51.300 It's you can't exactly tie it scientifically.

00:42:53.700 Of course, you're never going to be able to pull it up.

00:42:55.460 But I mean, 70,000 votes was not a lot to move on a statement that well publicized.

00:43:00.580 Now, to go back to 2016 for a second, you can make a really legitimate case that what Hillary Clinton said was true.

00:43:10.220 And actually, you can make a case that what she said about deplorables is true about every candidate that has ever run a race.

00:43:17.140 In every single instance, every candidate has followers who are, you would put in the category of, I'm proud to have those followers.

00:43:24.260 And you'd put some in the category of, I mean, I'm glad they're voting for me, but I really don't want to be associated with them.

00:43:30.040 Right.

00:43:30.240 And all Hillary Clinton was doing was saying, look, there is a basket of deplorables, these awful people that actually are racist and all these things.

00:43:39.920 And we don't, we're never going to get them.

00:43:42.020 But there are a lot of other people in the Republican Party who we can get to vote for me.

00:43:46.820 Right.

00:43:47.220 There are a lot of those people who are open to voting for us because they don't like the way Donald Trump acts or they just are moderates or whatever it is.

00:43:55.960 Like, the way she stated it was really bad, and I think it may very well have cost her the election.

00:44:00.440 However, the actual context of that statement, while she exaggerated it, is largely true.

00:44:06.380 And it's largely true with every single candidate.

00:44:08.500 What have they done to learn from that moment, though?

00:44:11.100 They now are saying there is no exception.

00:44:13.360 Everyone who votes for Donald Trump, who is a Republican, is a racist.

00:44:17.500 Everyone should be boycotted.

00:44:18.980 Everyone should be vilified.

00:44:21.160 Instead of saying a slice of them are bad, which is what Hillary said, they're now saying all of them are bad.

00:44:26.920 They have just tripled and quadrupled down on the strategy that lost them the last election.

00:44:31.300 And they continue to do it day after day after day.

00:44:34.380 If there was a book, a tell-all, that came out after this election, and we found out that Democrats were doing everything they could do to lose by as much as possible, I would believe that it was actually accurate.

00:44:48.140 It's fascinating the way they are handling this.

00:44:51.080 They're going as socialist as they can.

00:44:53.020 They're vilifying every voter that could possibly come into their pocket.

00:44:57.900 They are just trying to lose this, and they may very well do it.

00:45:02.000 Let's hope so.

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00:46:17.520 Pat and Stu in for Glenn.

00:46:18.940 Glenn is back on Monday, by the way, so get excited.

00:46:21.820 There is a story that kind of would tie into what we were just talking about, about the deplorables.

00:46:29.080 But it is being, I think, completely, completely misrepresented to the American people.

00:46:35.560 And largely by conservative audiences and conservative media right now.

00:46:39.800 There's a new movie coming out called The Hunt.

00:46:42.180 Now, if you saw, if you watched the Democratic debates, they ran a bunch of ads in the Democratic debates for this movie, The Hunt.

00:46:47.440 And when I saw them, I was like, oh, I'm in.

00:46:51.540 I can't wait to see this.

00:46:52.920 Now, I like these types of movies.

00:46:54.660 It is a movie about, essentially, people kind of wake up in a field and realize they're being hunted by some other people.

00:47:03.200 And it's, you know, the way they kind of explain it is it comes off, the previews are great.

00:47:10.040 Like, they're just like, it looks like you need to get away to an upscale experience where it's like a hunting lodge.

00:47:16.660 It's like a commercial for a hunting lodge.

00:47:18.320 And then you realize about halfway through that they're hunting actual people.

00:47:21.600 You know, so it's a horror movie and pretty intense.

00:47:24.680 It comes from Blumhouse, which is, you know, they've made a lot of the big horror movies over the past, you know, five to ten years.

00:47:31.520 And they usually make a lot of money.

00:47:32.960 They make a lot of money.

00:47:33.860 Cost very little and then make a lot.

00:47:35.440 Yeah, and they've had some, you know, some of their movies have been up for Best Picture.

00:47:40.140 I mean, they've had some, you know, real success.

00:47:42.360 And they've told great stories.

00:47:44.960 The issue here, though, is that people, and you don't get this from the previews, but the reporting about the movie,

00:47:52.120 they are saying that essentially what happens is the people in the field being hunted were called in the movie deplorables.

00:48:01.700 And they appear to be essentially red staters of some sort.

00:48:06.720 I don't know that it's specific to Trump, but it's some sort of, like, you know, red staters.

00:48:11.920 And they're being hunted by, like, liberals.

00:48:15.380 And this is apparently, like, apparently to somebody.

00:48:20.620 I don't know who.

00:48:21.720 But apparently to somebody this is offensive on the conservative side.

00:48:25.320 And because they're saying, well, these people are being hunted, they're going, and this is a bad message to send.

00:48:30.920 Now, there's been some controversy about the movie because in the wake of, you know, the shootings and all of this,

00:48:37.400 sometimes these things get rescheduled.

00:48:39.140 Some places have pulled ads for the movie because, you know, it's obviously a violent storyline.

00:48:43.700 And this happens, it's happened a million times in the past.

00:48:46.320 I mean, I can remember Arlington Road.

00:48:47.840 You remember that movie, Arlington Road?

00:48:49.460 Had Tim Robbins in it.

00:48:50.900 And it was in the mid-90s was supposed to come out.

00:48:55.300 I want to say it was a week or two, maybe it was a month or two after Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:49:01.420 And it was a movie about a white terrorist who was kind of Timothy McVeigh-ish who was, you know, setting off bombs and such.

00:49:11.880 And people were like, eh, I don't know if we want to release this right after.

00:49:15.240 And they wound up delaying it, and it came out later.

00:49:16.800 So this stuff does happen, and there's nothing you can do if you're a movie company, right?

00:49:22.400 You can't predict the news.

00:49:24.400 But what I keep coming back to, and I just don't understand how you could look at it any other way,

00:49:31.200 is that I don't know if there's ever been a movie in history in which this setup is the same.

00:49:36.340 Let's say that there is a bunch of really rich, evil people that kidnap a bunch of people,

00:49:42.280 throw them into a field, and start hunting them.

00:49:44.580 Who is the good guy in this situation?

00:49:48.260 It's not the liberals.

00:49:49.640 The guy's in the field.

00:49:50.520 Right, exactly.

00:49:51.900 This is a movie that I think quite clearly is set up that the red state team is the good team.

00:49:58.240 Yeah.

00:49:58.520 Right, the other people have kidnapped them, they've drugged them, they've left them in a field,

00:50:02.260 and have started firing without explanation at them in the field.

00:50:05.380 Uh-huh.

00:50:05.980 This is not a movie that is set up to vilify the right.

00:50:09.140 Right, this is a movie in which you have to imagine the right is the hero of the movie.

00:50:14.700 Yes.

00:50:15.080 The people in the field are the ones.

00:50:16.740 You would think so, yeah.

00:50:17.500 I mean, I can't imagine, like, you know, it's a five-second movie, it opens up, they're in the field,

00:50:21.900 they all fire at them, they're all dead, and it's over.

00:50:23.600 Like, that's not a movie.

00:50:24.820 Mm-hmm.

00:50:25.100 And again, this comes from Blumhouse, this is the same company that produced the movie Get Out.

00:50:30.360 Now, Get Out was, I believe, nominated for Best Picture, and a bunch of other things.

00:50:34.520 But if you ever saw that movie, it is a movie, quite clearly, about white liberals and their racism.

00:50:41.820 That is what the movie is about.

00:50:43.480 It is the topic of the movie.

00:50:45.200 Mm-hmm.

00:50:45.460 And, you know, in there, the most evil people in the movie who are trying to do really bad things to black people,

00:50:53.300 at one point they actually say, he defends his racism.

00:50:58.080 This is a guy who's, you know, basically murdering African Americans.

00:51:01.440 Defends his racism by saying, well, but I voted for Obama.

00:51:05.480 Right, like, this is, now I'm not saying that Blumhouse is some right-wing outfit, it's not.

00:51:10.220 But they are willing to chase a good story no matter what when it comes to politics.

00:51:14.660 Mm-hmm.

00:51:15.200 That's what they will do.

00:51:16.160 And they've shown this over and over again.

00:51:18.480 I, like, it's a really interesting concept for a movie.

00:51:21.540 It's ballsy.

00:51:22.780 Yeah.

00:51:23.120 And, I mean, the idea, though, that conservatives would be the one complaining about it.

00:51:27.220 I would expect liberals to be pissed off about it.

00:51:28.200 Exactly.

00:51:28.600 Yeah.

00:51:28.820 I would expect liberals to be pissed off at that concept, not conservatives.

00:51:32.680 Yeah.

00:51:33.120 I mean, unless the movie takes a really strange twist, I can't imagine the people in the field getting shot at are the bad guys.

00:51:39.720 Right?

00:51:39.900 Like, that would be a very, that's way beyond M. Night Shyamalan when it comes to the twist.

00:51:43.620 You know what?

00:51:44.180 The liberals with all the millions of dollars that kidnap people?

00:51:46.780 They were doing the right thing.

00:51:47.700 Innocent women in a field?

00:51:48.840 Oh, that was right.

00:51:49.860 The end.

00:51:51.740 Vote Elizabeth Warren.

00:51:53.140 I don't think that's how this ends.

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00:53:12.700 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn Beck, 888-727-BEZK.

00:53:17.280 Let's go to Kevin in Ohio.

00:53:19.000 Hey, Kevin, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

00:53:21.480 Hi.

00:53:22.300 Thanks for taking my call.

00:53:23.580 Hey, Stu's absolutely right.

00:53:25.400 This is President Trump's read my lips, no new taxes moment.

00:53:30.840 Wow.

00:53:31.020 And I would never vote for a socialist Democrat or a communist Democrat,

00:53:34.840 but I will stay at home.

00:53:37.080 Let the people have the government that they deserve.

00:53:40.640 I tell you what makes absolutely no sense to me is you,

00:53:45.180 under these red flag laws,

00:53:46.820 you supposedly identified somebody who's a danger to himself or others.

00:53:52.880 So much so, you're willing to force your way into his home and take his firearms.

00:53:57.240 But yet, you're going to leave the individual who's a danger to himself or others to roam free.

00:54:04.300 Right.

00:54:04.520 How ridiculous is that?

00:54:06.240 You're arresting the gun, but you're going to leave the problem for him?

00:54:09.460 Oh, and that's a great point, too, especially when it comes to being a danger to himself.

00:54:14.700 I mean, you know, you don't need a bottle of pills, right?

00:54:18.120 If you're a danger to yourself, you need a rope if you're a danger to yourself.

00:54:21.920 If they're that big of a danger, the gun is a very small part of the concern.

00:54:26.480 As we pointed out a million times, I mean, many of these countries,

00:54:29.880 Russia, for example, has one-tenth the gun ownership rate that we have,

00:54:32.800 and yet its suicide and homicide rate are more than double ours.

00:54:36.740 Why?

00:54:37.780 Somehow they're figuring out a way to kill people and themselves,

00:54:42.860 usually with something like polonium-212 or whatever it was.

00:54:47.660 Sometimes it's very strange nuclear items.

00:54:50.560 But other times, it's just, you know, good old-fashioned normal killings

00:54:54.040 that happened long before there were guns,

00:54:56.220 and it will happen long after we're all dead.

00:54:59.660 That's the way that works.

00:55:00.620 You can kill yourself, you can kill others,

00:55:02.800 without guns.

00:55:04.120 That's a great point, because you,

00:55:05.380 especially when you're talking about leaving someone,

00:55:08.460 think about this moment for a second.

00:55:10.240 You're in a situation where you're a danger to yourself.

00:55:12.700 Someone comes in and says,

00:55:13.560 look, you're a danger to yourself, we're taking your guns away.

00:55:15.800 They leave the house, the house is now silent, you're sitting there,

00:55:18.560 and now you realize that not only are you depressed

00:55:21.600 and a danger to yourself, but now everyone knows it.

00:55:24.920 The police know it, someone's reporting you,

00:55:27.540 people around you are talking about you behind your back.

00:55:29.940 You're in a much worse space than you were just five minutes earlier.

00:55:33.860 That is not a good formula.

00:55:35.480 Not a formula for success there.

00:55:36.720 It's ridiculous.

00:55:37.720 Mark in Ohio.

00:55:38.760 Hi.

00:55:39.220 You're on the Glenn Beck program.

00:55:40.520 Good morning.

00:55:41.400 Good morning, kids.

00:55:43.340 I just wanted to explain the Joe Biden situation.

00:55:47.140 Okay.

00:55:47.480 I think it's very well explained by a song by legendary jazz artist,

00:55:52.000 Moe's Allison, and his song called Your Mind is on Vacation

00:55:56.440 and Your Mouth is Working Over Time.

00:55:59.540 That could be the Joe Biden campaign slogan.

00:56:03.140 I would agree.

00:56:04.620 I don't know if I could go too deep in the catalog of Moe's,

00:56:07.580 but that one definitely works.

00:56:10.180 You don't have the entire works of Moe's Allison?

00:56:12.940 I don't.

00:56:13.520 Huh.

00:56:13.920 Weird.

00:56:14.320 I don't.

00:56:14.840 All right.

00:56:15.180 Thanks, Mark.

00:56:16.900 Yeah, that was quite a musical reference.

00:56:18.720 It was, but it's a first, but yeah, the song seems pretty appropriate

00:56:23.620 because, yeah, the guy, I mean, and it's getting worse with him.

00:56:28.920 As we mentioned last hour, Biden's getting worse every day.

00:56:32.820 Middle class Joe is breaking down a little bit.

00:56:34.920 Something's going on there.

00:56:36.060 Yeah, because you have, when you go into a big clutch moment, right?

00:56:43.460 You know, you have a little rust if you haven't been there in a while.

00:56:47.580 And this was shown, I think, pretty well with Barack Obama in his first debate with Mitt Romney.

00:56:52.400 He came out of the gate, you know, rusty.

00:56:55.820 Yeah.

00:56:56.000 I mean, he got destroyed by Romney in that first debate.

00:56:59.720 And it looked like, for the first time, I think, wait a minute, Romney might actually win this thing.

00:57:03.900 Except in the next debate, he took his foot completely off the gas and slammed on the brakes.

00:57:08.180 Same thing in the third debate.

00:57:09.140 Right.

00:57:09.440 I mean, he was bad in the next two, so, I mean, it didn't wind up making a big difference.

00:57:12.660 But that first debate was, it took Obama a minute to remember what it was like to be in battle.

00:57:18.480 Yeah.

00:57:18.600 Right?

00:57:18.840 Because he had been, you know, he said, yes, he's arguing with talk show hosts.

00:57:22.460 And, you know, he has some problems with senators here and there.

00:57:25.120 But it's a different job.

00:57:26.440 You know, like, governing is different than running a campaign.

00:57:29.260 And so, getting in front of that crowd is a big deal.

00:57:31.440 I mean, you remember, you know, like, Jordan coming back from playing basketball, or from baseball.

00:57:35.440 You know, like, he had some spectacular games, but it took a while to shake off the rust.

00:57:40.040 Now, Joe Biden, you know, there's very little comparison to Michael Jordan when it comes to Joe Biden.

00:57:45.360 Like, none?

00:57:45.920 Like, he wasn't good at this before.

00:57:47.800 No.

00:57:48.120 So, now he comes back, he has this really bad debate, and you say, was that the same situation as, you know, Obama-Romney won?

00:57:55.720 Where he's shaken off rust and he's going to get better.

00:57:57.980 He was, I would say, a little better in debate number two.

00:58:01.760 But the rust is not going away.

00:58:03.620 And this is a guy who made these mistakes before when he was sharp.

00:58:07.920 This is a tough road.

00:58:09.300 I mean, he very well, and we said this from the beginning, very well might not make it through this.

00:58:13.580 There's a really long way to go.

00:58:15.340 And, you know, we look at some of the candidates at zero or one, two percent.

00:58:19.780 Yeah.

00:58:20.000 And we think, why are they even in this?

00:58:22.600 But then you forget, at about this time in the campaign, that's where Bill Clinton was.

00:58:26.840 He was at two percent.

00:58:28.100 Was he really?

00:58:28.720 Yeah.

00:58:29.080 I didn't realize it was that.

00:58:30.220 I think it was like a year and a half before the election.

00:58:32.720 It was right around two and just came storming out.

00:58:38.200 And so that could happen again.

00:58:40.360 Again, you know, I can't remember the exact date, but I mean, this is in the campaign cycle

00:58:45.020 of 2016.

00:58:45.780 Trump had basically just announced.

00:58:48.740 If you go back to 2016, that's about where we were.

00:58:51.780 Trump, I think he had been, I think he announced in July.

00:58:53.840 I think it was July he announced.

00:58:55.340 Seems like, yeah.

00:58:56.260 It could have been June, but it was not.

00:58:57.660 I don't think it was earlier than that.

00:58:58.980 It was, it's one of those things where it, this feels like it's going on forever, but

00:59:04.580 we're still early here.

00:59:06.960 Very.

00:59:07.420 And, you know, the, the, the first, uh, you know, we, Iowa comes up after the new year.

00:59:12.660 So you have right now from August to the end of the year, we have a couple of debates

00:59:16.640 mixed in.

00:59:17.160 And you have a couple of big things, but no, no voting.

00:59:20.660 It's going to go all the way past Christmas at the end of the year.

00:59:23.400 We'll come back from that break.

00:59:24.860 And that's when election season starts, not campaigning, not running, not, you know, debating

00:59:30.100 any of that votes are going to be cast in weeks.

00:59:32.820 And that's where this thing gets, gets decided.

00:59:34.800 But that's a long, long time from now.

00:59:36.880 Still, it's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:59:42.660 Uh, what a country we live in.

00:59:44.200 Just a hateful, nasty, racist, xenophobic country where, you know, sometimes people who just

00:59:51.200 happen to come here in a non-documented way.

00:59:54.640 Oh, thank you.

00:59:55.360 Get scooped up in this powerful machine and then churned out and spit out and spewed all

01:00:04.580 over the ground.

01:00:05.120 I, you know, I didn't realize that working to support your family was a crime.

01:00:13.280 I didn't know that humans could be illegal.

01:00:17.620 No human can be illegal.

01:00:19.060 In Trump's America, you're darn right that can happen.

01:00:22.480 Right.

01:00:23.100 Because, you know, never before had a president deported a person.

01:00:26.100 Well, except they had quite a few times, but still.

01:00:30.140 Well, those times were different.

01:00:31.400 You know, just those times, different.

01:00:33.080 Yeah, because it wasn't this guy doing it.

01:00:34.800 Right.

01:00:35.320 This guy does it in a hateful way.

01:00:37.980 So they, they have the biggest single state immigration enforcement action in U.S. history

01:00:43.480 that goes on the other day.

01:00:44.820 Mm.

01:00:45.100 Uh, 680 people are, uh, rounded up at a food processing plants and basically arrested for

01:00:57.580 being a human being.

01:00:59.620 Yeah.

01:01:00.380 Trying to feed their families.

01:01:01.360 Trying to feed their families.

01:01:02.720 Mm-hmm.

01:01:02.960 And, you know, this is shown as like, this is, look at, this proves how bad of a guy Trump

01:01:08.060 is.

01:01:08.460 It shows how hateful U.S. immigration policy is.

01:01:11.120 And it's fascinating to look at it because already, now we are two days since this occurred,

01:01:17.040 already half of the people have been just released.

01:01:19.840 Half of them have already been released.

01:01:23.060 Which is pretty.

01:01:23.760 Not deported.

01:01:24.400 Not deported.

01:01:25.020 Just released.

01:01:25.760 Just released back into the country to do what they were doing.

01:01:27.600 Yeah.

01:01:27.800 Why?

01:01:28.260 Because, well, you know, they're saying, well, you know, they, they have children.

01:01:31.420 They need to take care of their children.

01:01:32.780 They have medical concerns.

01:01:34.520 They have, you know, there's a hundred different reasons why they're being released.

01:01:38.440 But like, this is the most intense action in U.S. history.

01:01:43.280 Already two days later, half of them have already been released.

01:01:46.520 And, you know, there's a, there's a question here of how these things occur.

01:01:52.340 A lot of times I feel like justifiable actions by the Trump administration are not executed

01:02:00.660 properly.

01:02:01.680 They get it.

01:02:02.380 They can be a little sloppy.

01:02:03.620 I mean, this happened a lot more when people like Steve Bannon were around and Steve Bannon would

01:02:08.020 come into the office one day and just belch out an executive.

01:02:11.100 It would be like, he'd drink too much root beer and he'd burp out an executive order.

01:02:15.100 And then all of a sudden they would just go into effect.

01:02:17.120 And people, people who were like in charge of, you know, enforcing it are sitting around

01:02:22.520 going, I never even heard word one about this.

01:02:24.600 What's going on?

01:02:25.220 And there'd be chaos.

01:02:25.860 And it hurt a lot of those early days of the Trump administration because people like

01:02:30.000 Bannon were so incompetent.

01:02:32.200 And of course, obviously Trump became wildly aware of that, which is why they, they don't

01:02:37.140 chat all that much these days, you know, Bannon was out for himself.

01:02:40.900 And I think everybody now knows that, but you look at this and you say, you know, if

01:02:46.240 you're going to release people who need to go home to their families or have medical situations

01:02:51.840 or whatever it is, why don't you know that half of them are under this circumstance before

01:02:57.140 the raid so that you're not necessarily arresting 680.

01:03:01.000 You're arresting the, you know, whatever it is, you know, or you have, you have a way

01:03:07.600 to deal with these situations rather than just, because I mean, arresting them and releasing

01:03:11.400 them.

01:03:11.680 What does this do?

01:03:12.880 Waste time.

01:03:13.520 It wastes time.

01:03:14.300 It alerts them.

01:03:15.580 Yeah.

01:03:15.900 You know, they can now go to another area, right?

01:03:18.440 Just take their family, go to another area of the country and pick up another job and

01:03:21.600 do go to another food processing plant.

01:03:23.780 Right.

01:03:24.180 I do think that the end game of this, you know, look, rounding up illegal immigrants

01:03:29.200 that have committed a crime.

01:03:31.360 Let's not, this is not just rounding up people because humans are illegal.

01:03:34.420 This is, these are people that have committed crimes.

01:03:36.860 In fact, the first thing they did in this nation with the very first step they took was

01:03:41.640 a criminal action.

01:03:42.900 That is something that is not, should not just be dismissed.

01:03:45.820 We, we do, whether you like the law or not, you need to make sure you follow it.

01:03:50.860 I will tell you this, there's one law that I really, really super duper don't like.

01:03:55.720 And I would really, really like to not participate in it.

01:03:58.860 I'd love to avoid it completely.

01:04:00.300 It's called the income tax.

01:04:01.760 Not a fan of it.

01:04:02.640 Would like to not pay it.

01:04:03.880 Do pay it though.

01:04:04.720 Have to.

01:04:05.720 I do.

01:04:06.380 I think it sucks.

01:04:07.120 Otherwise, you might be separated from your family.

01:04:09.140 I might be separated from my family.

01:04:10.180 Would they separate American citizens from their family?

01:04:12.960 Yes, they do it all the time.

01:04:14.340 Oh, wow.

01:04:14.780 For crimes, uh, for crimes all around the spectrum, serious ones and not so serious ones.

01:04:20.400 They will separate you from your family.

01:04:22.300 That is how our legal system works.

01:04:25.060 And so I would say that the real target of these things should not necessarily be though,

01:04:31.020 the average person working at the plant.

01:04:33.480 It's the people running the plant.

01:04:35.060 You should keep, we've got to make these people who are hiring hundreds.

01:04:38.840 Look at hiring one illegal immigrant, hiring a few that you don't know about is one thing.

01:04:42.980 Hiring 700 at a plant is not something that you're doing unintentionally.

01:04:47.400 Like this is something that when you, you're running your entire operation based on illegal

01:04:52.640 immigrant labor, that is the much larger problem, uh, than any individual case.

01:04:58.760 These companies do need to be punished for this stuff.

01:05:01.260 Yeah.

01:05:01.420 It's what I, it's what I mean when I say, uh, we've got all, we already have existing laws

01:05:06.660 on the books to deal with a lot of these problems.

01:05:08.920 We don't enforce us law.

01:05:10.600 So you need to secure the border.

01:05:12.600 You need to enforce us law and just those two actions will take care of a lot of this.

01:05:17.060 And one of those things that you have to enforce is, is employers hiring on purpose, uh, as part

01:05:26.360 of their business plan illegal.

01:05:28.200 So they don't have to pay them as much.

01:05:30.500 Um, they're just trying to get a deal and they're just trying to get essentially indentured

01:05:35.980 servants in their place of business and it's wrong and we need to put a stop to that.

01:05:41.080 What's fascinating about that is somehow the continuation of the indentured servitude is

01:05:46.320 the compassionate side of the argument.

01:05:48.820 Somehow saying, you know what?

01:05:50.700 We should pay a bunch of illegal immigrants below minimum wage and all these things.

01:05:55.540 We say the living wage.

01:05:56.860 Remember that argument?

01:05:57.500 It's going to be $15 an hour to these people, but it's okay to pay a little illegal immigrants

01:06:01.500 $3 an hour.

01:06:02.820 Yeah.

01:06:03.180 That's totally fine.

01:06:04.220 That's compassionate.

01:06:05.160 Right.

01:06:05.400 I, it's, it's really fascinating and somehow they are able successfully to paint a side

01:06:10.780 of the argument that says, yes, continue a breaking laws.

01:06:14.700 As far as pay goes, continue, uh, breaking laws.

01:06:17.900 As far as working conditions go, continue breaking laws, uh, as far as immigration goes.

01:06:23.960 And you know, these people are living in the shadows, continue to let them live in the

01:06:27.840 shadows.

01:06:28.100 That's the compassionate side of the argument.

01:06:30.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.280 So is, so is the fact that we're not, well, they don't, what do you mean they should learn

01:06:34.620 English?

01:06:34.920 What, who are you to say what language is to get along, to get ahead.

01:06:40.000 If they don't learn English, they will never, they'll always be doing what they're doing

01:06:44.460 right now.

01:06:45.400 They will never get ahead.

01:06:46.660 They will always be at poverty level.

01:06:49.460 And you, and you're just encouraging that there's nothing they can, if they don't learn

01:06:53.420 the language in this country, they will never succeed in this country to the level that they

01:06:57.580 could, they could achieve a lot here.

01:07:01.340 Uh, but Democrats know that they can, they can keep them, uh, dependent upon them and their

01:07:10.480 agenda.

01:07:11.760 Uh, and that'll keep them in power if they can, if they can just encourage them to do a couple

01:07:17.660 of things, keep working in the jobs they're working in and, uh, keep speaking the, your

01:07:22.840 native tongue.

01:07:23.540 It's not that much, right?

01:07:25.160 And they're the ones who are uncompassionate.

01:07:28.180 Here, my recommendation for the United States of America is that we should embrace the English

01:07:34.200 language at least as much as the country of Belize.

01:07:38.280 If we can just get to that level.

01:07:40.600 What is it?

01:07:41.000 What is it in Belize?

01:07:41.880 Belize, the official, the official language of Belize is English.

01:07:46.860 So, wow.

01:07:47.340 Just period.

01:07:48.000 Just English.

01:07:48.720 Yes.

01:07:48.940 So you go, every, every sign, every document has English, uh, on it.

01:07:54.660 You, every place you go, you can read English.

01:07:57.660 Um, and why can Belize adopt English language as their official language?

01:08:04.820 And we can't, we, we can't be as, as British, uh, as, as Belize.

01:08:09.980 It's amazing.

01:08:10.740 I mean, that is a, that's a strange, uh, it's a strange development.

01:08:14.660 You know, we should, it's okay that people speak other languages, obviously.

01:08:18.400 And there's no reason that, that we are a society that allows all sorts of different

01:08:23.340 cultures and we take the best parts from them to build our culture.

01:08:26.180 That is really what our culture is.

01:08:27.340 It's, it's the best of everybody else.

01:08:29.100 That's why we're so great.

01:08:30.240 We're an all-star team.

01:08:31.140 Okay.

01:08:31.260 That's what we are.

01:08:31.960 We take all the best things from everybody else and, and, and we combined into the,

01:08:35.980 into the American experience.

01:08:37.180 It's great.

01:08:38.100 But like, you have to have some standards and, and make it easy.

01:08:41.380 Now, look, in the United States, pretty much it is the official language.

01:08:44.440 Just the market has said that.

01:08:46.160 Uh, but it does, it, there is a, it, so it's easy for us, right?

01:08:50.060 It's easy for people who speak English.

01:08:51.400 It's not easy though, for someone who is an immigrant here and let's just say a legal

01:08:56.340 immigrant here to come here and say, look, I want to participate in this system.

01:09:01.320 And then we're told that it's hateful for them to learn the language that would help

01:09:04.960 them participate in the system the best way possible.

01:09:07.860 That's, there's nothing hateful about wanting people to do the best that they can.

01:09:11.120 No.

01:09:11.520 And that's what, that, if you want to do the best that you can in this country.

01:09:14.540 You have to, you have to learn English.

01:09:16.300 Yeah.

01:09:16.600 You do.

01:09:16.800 Unless you're, you know, and you're, you're in little Havana, there are places where like

01:09:19.800 you can get away with speaking one language that is not English for the rest of your life

01:09:24.200 probably, but it's very, it's, they're, they're little pockets and then you're forced to remain

01:09:27.840 in that little pocket or you can't flourish.

01:09:29.760 That's not okay.

01:09:30.760 And when you turn it around, it's so easy to comprehend.

01:09:34.420 If I went to Mexico, I'm not going to get ahead in Mexico unless I learned Spanish.

01:09:39.440 If I go to Russia, I'm not going to, I'm going to flounder there until I learn Russian.

01:09:44.380 I mean, it just makes sense.

01:09:46.140 Yeah.

01:09:46.500 And I will say this too.

01:09:48.440 You probably can get away with it with English because English is so prominent.

01:09:55.080 In Europe, you could probably, you can actually get away with it.

01:09:57.580 Okay.

01:09:57.880 I mean, if there is a, an official language of the world, it's probably English.

01:10:01.960 Absolutely.

01:10:02.960 And at least at this point.

01:10:04.260 It's the language in which business is conducted.

01:10:06.260 Exactly.

01:10:06.840 It's just like the US dollars, the standard, you know, is the same way with English.

01:10:11.060 So you can get away with it in a lot of situations.

01:10:13.260 That's not the case with every language.

01:10:15.320 And it's very difficult, especially coming to the United States and trying to get to a point where you have to at least get proficient.

01:10:22.820 You don't have to be, you don't have to have mastery per se, but you have to be at least proficient.

01:10:26.500 I mean, how many times have you talked to someone trying to do business with them and they can't understand the words you're saying in the language you're speaking?

01:10:32.540 It's really frustrating.

01:10:34.540 Imagine that's your every day.

01:10:36.460 I mean, there is legitimate compassion to have for people who come here and are trying to do their best.

01:10:41.160 And at the same time are being told by everybody on the left that they don't have to do any of these things that would actually improve their lives.

01:10:47.640 It's like you're encouraging them to stay in their place.

01:10:51.980 That's what the left does.

01:10:52.880 That's exactly what they're doing.

01:10:54.680 Yes.

01:10:55.340 That's what they do with minorities and that's what they do with immigrants who come here.

01:11:00.020 And that's how they think they are going to maintain their power base.

01:11:04.860 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:11:06.620 Have you been following this story, Stu, about this guy, just a baseball fan, apparently, who during a rain delay at a Rockies game last month, went down to their speed pitch challenge booth.

01:11:20.860 Sure.

01:11:21.020 He's got a radar gun in there and you can go down there and see how hard you throw.

01:11:24.900 So he goes down there and starts throwing the ball and his first pitch is 90 miles an hour, which is pretty impressive.

01:11:32.740 Pretty good, yeah.

01:11:33.520 I mean, the average run-of-the-mill person on the street probably throws about 50 or 60.

01:11:38.000 Yeah.

01:11:38.240 I mean, I've gone to those booths before and you think you're throwing the ball hard and you're like, it's like 68, 72.

01:11:43.700 Yeah.

01:11:44.360 It's like, wow, that's like Little League Baseball.

01:11:47.060 Come on.

01:11:48.060 Really?

01:11:49.160 The next two.

01:11:50.280 And then, by the way, your arm is sore for a month.

01:11:52.840 Yeah.

01:11:52.960 You better loosen up a little before you try to do that.

01:11:55.640 For sure.

01:11:56.120 But the next two pitches were 94.

01:11:58.200 On his sixth pitch, his sixth and eighth pitches were 96 miles an hour.

01:12:04.080 Now, did this guy know he was a really good pitcher or was it?

01:12:07.380 It doesn't really, but I believe he did know, but one of his friends was taping him and they posted it.

01:12:14.400 And two days later.

01:12:16.240 It's like how everything happens these days.

01:12:19.060 Yeah, you have to see.

01:12:19.920 It has to be a viral video or nothing occurs.

01:12:22.020 Right.

01:12:22.360 Right.

01:12:22.700 And it became a viral video.

01:12:24.840 The Oakland Athletics just signed him to a minor league contract.

01:12:29.320 That's awesome.

01:12:30.120 That's incredible.

01:12:31.900 I mean, yeah.

01:12:32.360 If you can hit 96 without really even playing every day.

01:12:35.780 You need to get at least a tryout.

01:12:37.380 You got to be honest.

01:12:38.140 Yeah.

01:12:38.420 I mean, if you want to play baseball.

01:12:39.720 Now, look.

01:12:40.040 Minor league baseball.

01:12:40.840 The life of a minor league baseball player is not one that you necessarily want to choose.

01:12:44.880 It's hard.

01:12:45.860 Right.

01:12:46.040 Yeah, you're taking buses.

01:12:48.160 You're taking buses everywhere.

01:12:49.860 The pay's not super great.

01:12:51.440 No, it's not good at all.

01:12:52.740 Really.

01:12:53.160 And so, yeah.

01:12:53.680 And it's a tough life.

01:12:55.460 You're staying in hotels.

01:12:56.580 You're traveling a lot.

01:12:57.760 It's not for everybody.

01:12:58.140 But you work your way through and you get to the majors.

01:13:00.440 That's big.

01:13:01.620 Now, you know, you're set.

01:13:03.520 You're set.

01:13:03.980 If you get a big contract, you're set.

01:13:05.640 But even for, I mean, what is minimum salary?

01:13:08.720 Around 500 grand at this point.

01:13:10.120 I mean, even minimum salary is still a nice life.

01:13:12.480 Yes.

01:13:13.020 Very.

01:13:13.380 So, then, this guy who runs a, what is the, oh, it's called Pitching Ninja.

01:13:19.840 You follow this, right?

01:13:20.840 If you like baseball, it's a great Twitter follow because he, you know, posts highlights

01:13:24.720 of, you know, just great pitches, like incredible curve balls.

01:13:28.300 He'll show you, like, guys throwing 102 miles an hour or he'll overlay a fastball and a curveball

01:13:33.200 from the same pitcher and you get to see how hard it is to actually hit.

01:13:36.220 It's just a cool thing about baseball, yeah.

01:13:38.200 Last Thanksgiving, Pitching Ninja posted a video of a guy, some pitcher in the independent

01:13:46.300 leagues.

01:13:47.260 So, it's not part of MLB.

01:13:49.580 Right.

01:13:49.760 Not associated with any, yeah, major league team like normal minor league teams are.

01:13:53.420 Guy's name was Tyler Grover and he was throwing 100 miles an hour.

01:13:57.160 A hundred miles an hour.

01:13:59.280 And the Cincinnati Reds saw it and signed him almost immediately.

01:14:04.760 It's just incredible.

01:14:06.600 That's amazing.

01:14:07.700 It is amazing.

01:14:08.500 But if you can throw a hundred miles an hour, you're a definite prospect for the major leagues.

01:14:13.060 Certainly.

01:14:13.540 As long as you can put it somewhere near the plate.

01:14:15.840 Yeah.

01:14:16.120 I mean, if you get professional instruction.

01:14:18.280 And you might need another pitcher, too.

01:14:19.980 Sure.

01:14:20.620 It doesn't guarantee you're in the majors.

01:14:22.220 Right.

01:14:22.340 But it's a nice indicator.

01:14:24.000 Yes, it is.

01:14:24.320 It's a nice indicator.

01:14:24.940 Because there's not a lot of human beings that can throw a ball a hundred miles an hour.

01:14:28.360 I'm also fascinated at this phenomenon of how things like YouTube make real life things

01:14:35.880 happen.

01:14:37.000 You know?

01:14:37.300 It's like, Bill Cosby's a great example of this.

01:14:41.640 Bill Cosby was accused of rape a zillion times.

01:14:45.840 Right.

01:14:46.280 Right?

01:14:46.880 And he had cases about it.

01:14:49.260 He had been accused.

01:14:50.040 It had been in the news.

01:14:50.980 And it was nothing.

01:14:51.740 The guy was living out his years.

01:14:53.360 And then a comedian does a rant.

01:14:55.520 It goes viral.

01:14:57.060 And now the guy's in prison for the rest of his life.

01:14:58.220 Pretty soon the guy's tried and convicted.

01:14:59.800 Like, I don't.

01:15:00.780 Yeah.

01:15:01.140 I don't know if that's the right way for justice to happen.

01:15:04.460 But it happens with so many things now.

01:15:05.900 If you can get something to go viral, it changes your entire life.

01:15:09.480 And people jump on the bandwagon.

01:15:11.280 It really is fascinating.

01:15:12.660 Sometimes for good reasons.

01:15:14.060 Sometimes not so good.

01:15:15.660 But, you know, sometimes it ruins lives as well.

01:15:18.740 Not Cosby.

01:15:19.440 He deserved his life to be ruined.

01:15:20.760 But, you know, we've seen things like Covington, for example.

01:15:24.020 There's bad outcomes and good outcomes.

01:15:25.940 But it's a part of our society now.

01:15:31.100 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:15:34.660 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:15:36.820 With Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:15:37.980 888-727-BECK.

01:15:40.860 Got a new study about sugar being the poison that it is.

01:15:45.000 Well, it's a cancer poison.

01:15:48.540 Or a poisoned cancer.

01:15:51.200 It tastes good, but it's killing you dead.

01:15:54.420 And you're going to drop over from it any minute now.

01:15:58.240 That's basically...

01:15:59.180 Do I basically have it?

01:16:00.320 You do.

01:16:01.220 A small glass of juice or soft drink a day is linked to increased risk of cancer.

01:16:06.560 In case you didn't know that.

01:16:07.640 A small glass of juice or soda a day is linked to an increased risk of cancer.

01:16:11.000 Study finds from CNN.

01:16:12.100 Is there anything not linked to an increased risk of cancer?

01:16:15.880 Thank you.

01:16:16.200 Everything is.

01:16:16.580 Is there anything I can ingest that doesn't do that?

01:16:19.420 This is like the...

01:16:20.560 I don't think the answer to that is...

01:16:22.920 I don't think there is anything that's safe.

01:16:25.060 Like they had a...

01:16:26.380 One thing they do all the time is they'll be like,

01:16:28.020 Did you see that cell phones are linked to cancer?

01:16:31.020 Brain cancer?

01:16:31.800 Brain cancer.

01:16:32.680 And they're like,

01:16:33.180 The UN has said that it is possibly carcinogenic.

01:16:37.340 And you're like,

01:16:38.000 Okay, well that sounds pretty bad.

01:16:39.420 Until you realize that the UN has, I think,

01:16:42.580 Tested 300 different substances through this program.

01:16:47.400 And they have...

01:16:48.400 How many have they decided are not carcinogenic?

01:16:51.520 None.

01:16:52.860 Not one.

01:16:54.140 Literally not one of them.

01:16:55.560 They have come up with...

01:16:56.860 Out of 300.

01:16:57.040 No, that doesn't cause cancer.

01:16:58.220 Right.

01:16:58.480 Wow.

01:16:58.680 Because I mean, who knew?

01:17:00.240 At some dosage, right?

01:17:03.240 Who knows?

01:17:03.980 Things like pickled vegetables, for example,

01:17:06.480 Are possibly carcinogenic, according to the UN.

01:17:09.500 You know, it's like to that level.

01:17:11.880 Every single thing that pops up is possibly carcinogenic.

01:17:14.700 Now, what if I eat just raw kale?

01:17:17.460 Raw kale.

01:17:18.040 Well, that's possibly suicidal.

01:17:20.180 You'll kill yourself.

01:17:20.840 You're right.

01:17:21.320 You will kill yourself.

01:17:21.940 That will kill you just from the taste.

01:17:23.260 Yes.

01:17:23.580 I don't know if they've tested kale or not.

01:17:25.000 I do have a really good recipe for kale.

01:17:26.980 Okay.

01:17:27.360 You put coconut oil in a pan, you know.

01:17:30.480 And then...

01:17:31.260 Some of these are really good, actually.

01:17:32.740 How does it work?

01:17:33.440 So it's just like a drizzle?

01:17:35.120 Yeah, like a drizzle.

01:17:35.980 Yep.

01:17:36.240 And then you just kind of swirl it around.

01:17:37.900 Sure.

01:17:38.080 And then you put the kale in the pan with the coconut oil.

01:17:42.020 Is it high heat?

01:17:43.200 No, you don't even turn on the heat yet.

01:17:44.960 Okay.

01:17:45.680 Then you take the pan and you put it over a garbage can.

01:17:49.500 And then the kale slides off right into the garbage really quickly.

01:17:53.080 And it doesn't even stick to the pan at all.

01:17:54.800 Oh, it's great.

01:17:55.900 Because you put that oil in there.

01:17:56.440 Because a lot of times I have that issue where the kale leaves are still on there.

01:18:00.200 I got to wash it off.

01:18:01.160 It takes a while.

01:18:01.600 And it's like icky because you have to touch them and stuff.

01:18:04.420 You don't have to do this with my recipe.

01:18:06.660 Oh, wow.

01:18:07.220 So that works pretty well.

01:18:08.400 It works out really well.

01:18:08.660 I got to try that when I get home.

01:18:09.880 Would you put that out on your Twitter feed, that recipe?

01:18:12.060 Just kind of so we can walk people through it.

01:18:13.840 I think that would be really nice.

01:18:14.820 Okay.

01:18:15.320 Another one.

01:18:15.920 Cancer risks should not be sugar coated.

01:18:18.340 Do you see what they did there?

01:18:19.340 Oh, wow.

01:18:19.880 Do you see what they did there?

01:18:20.860 I do.

01:18:21.220 A new study points to a possible link between higher consumption of sugary drinks and increased

01:18:26.100 risk of cancer.

01:18:28.000 Then you get soda and fruit juice linked to cancer in major study of sugary drinks over

01:18:34.500 and over and over and over again.

01:18:35.780 If you saw these, if you have had hassles from family members that have now said you could

01:18:40.900 never have another cookie or another glass of soda in your life.

01:18:44.820 Or juice.

01:18:45.780 Or juice.

01:18:46.200 Yeah.

01:18:46.420 If this has happened to you, it's interesting to look a little bit deeper into what the

01:18:51.680 study actually says.

01:18:52.920 Because if you think political reporting sucks in this country, and I do, you wouldn't even

01:18:59.920 imagine how much worse health and science reporting is.

01:19:02.880 It is because, you know, at least in political reporting, like if someone comes out and says

01:19:08.580 something about Republicans, right?

01:19:12.660 Republicans will at least fight back against it.

01:19:14.700 They'll at least say, wait a minute, no, that's not true, here's our argument.

01:19:17.880 With health and science stuff, there's not really, like, you know, the only people who

01:19:22.520 make any noise about this stuff are like the corporation that sells you the soda.

01:19:27.480 Like, they're the only people who come out and say, wait a minute, actually, like, look

01:19:30.260 at the study, and no one believes them, right?

01:19:32.060 No one's going to believe them because they're the ones selling you the soda, and they think,

01:19:35.920 oh, there's a profit motive there.

01:19:37.100 And not these pure scientists that are just saying this.

01:19:40.460 And I will say, largely, it's not even a problem with the scientists.

01:19:43.820 A lot of times, I think we say, oh, the scientists, you know, give us these crazy studies.

01:19:48.080 You know, we always say this about, like, oh, first it's butter is bad for you, and then

01:19:50.980 margarine's bad for you, and then none of it's bad for you, and then all of it's bad

01:19:53.860 for you.

01:19:54.300 Well, what really is true about that is the reporting on those things suck.

01:19:57.880 It's not the studies.

01:20:00.040 Largely, it's the reporting on it that makes you, the reporting presents it as if the study

01:20:05.040 says butter was bad, and now margarine is bad, and now butter is good, and now margarine

01:20:08.960 is good.

01:20:09.300 When you look at the actual studies, a lot of times, what you find is it's very nuanced.

01:20:13.940 It says things that probably are true.

01:20:16.800 It doesn't make one of the two things the devil and the other thing God, like the reporting

01:20:21.220 does.

01:20:22.000 So we'll come back here in 60 seconds, and we'll go through if your wife or your husband

01:20:27.640 has said, hey, you can never have another glass of orange juice because you're going to die

01:20:33.040 of cancer.

01:20:33.680 However, we'll give you the truth here in 60 seconds.

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01:21:41.000 So, the study about sugar and cancer involved 100,000 people.

01:21:56.920 They asked them a bunch of questions about their lives.

01:21:58.660 It's a huge survey.

01:21:59.060 Wow.

01:21:59.540 Yeah, it's a big one.

01:22:00.060 Wow.

01:22:00.300 It has some credibility to it.

01:22:01.920 They monitored them for a decade.

01:22:03.340 So, 100,000 people in France monitored over a decade.

01:22:06.240 That should be a solid study.

01:22:08.560 Yeah.

01:22:09.240 Now, it's an observational study, and observational studies are different than the highest levels

01:22:14.140 of scientific study.

01:22:15.840 Like, when you have the blind studies, and there's sort of a hierarchy of scientific study.

01:22:21.900 And you have a control group.

01:22:23.080 Did they do all that or not?

01:22:24.240 No.

01:22:24.440 So, this is an observational study.

01:22:25.880 It's a lower...

01:22:26.760 Basically, we would say it's a lower-quality study, though large.

01:22:30.120 They split the people into the groups of how much sugar they drank, either from juice

01:22:34.480 or sugar-sweetened beverages.

01:22:35.740 This is just drinking sugar?

01:22:37.560 This isn't ingesting sugar through, like, candy bars or cake or whatever.

01:22:41.460 Which is a major thing.

01:22:42.580 Yeah, that's huge.

01:22:43.000 Like, if you happen to be a person who drinks a lot of water, but then nine slices of cake

01:22:46.720 a day...

01:22:47.240 That's me.

01:22:47.800 Right.

01:22:48.020 Well, not nine slices of cake.

01:22:51.180 Or not water.

01:22:51.440 There's going to be some pie in there, too.

01:22:54.160 You want to spread it around among all the baked groups.

01:22:56.760 And we can't leave out ice cream.

01:22:58.280 That'd be ridiculous.

01:22:59.080 Ridiculous.

01:22:59.640 So...

01:23:00.240 So, researchers found that people who drank more sugary beverages were about 20% higher

01:23:05.120 risk of cancer, which is pretty significant.

01:23:07.220 20% higher risk.

01:23:08.560 Yeah.

01:23:08.580 Uh-huh.

01:23:08.800 They also found that drinking just a little bit of soda, like one bottle of Coke per week,

01:23:15.140 could increase your risk of cancer.

01:23:17.560 What?

01:23:18.080 And this includes fruit juice.

01:23:19.820 One Coke a week...

01:23:20.860 Right.

01:23:21.540 ...increases your risk of cancer.

01:23:23.140 And here...

01:23:23.620 You just clicked on the story.

01:23:24.620 What does that say for a guy who ingests 15 a day or whatever?

01:23:31.100 Randomly...

01:23:31.740 Are you saying this generally?

01:23:32.600 Yeah, I'm just generally...

01:23:33.380 Okay.

01:23:34.040 ...taking a guy who might drink...

01:23:36.320 Let's say Diet Coke.

01:23:37.500 Okay.

01:23:38.020 Well, hold on.

01:23:38.420 A lot.

01:23:38.540 We'll get into that.

01:23:39.480 Okay.

01:23:40.200 Because what I'm fascinated is, Pat just did the thing that people do with the media.

01:23:45.940 Yes.

01:23:45.960 It's why they write stories like this.

01:23:47.600 Right.

01:23:47.760 Wait, just one soda and I'm going to get cancer?

01:23:50.540 Yeah.

01:23:50.860 Click.

01:23:51.720 Share.

01:23:52.400 Right.

01:23:52.660 Let's retweet.

01:23:53.700 You know, like, and that's what happens and why they write the stories like this.

01:23:56.820 And you're saying that's...

01:23:57.860 Let me give you the actual perspective.

01:23:59.480 And look, there is something here, but let me tell you what it is.

01:24:01.980 Okay.

01:24:02.920 First of all, a few issues with the study.

01:24:04.820 Yeah.

01:24:04.980 The first thing to notice, cancer isn't one disease.

01:24:07.500 Cancer is a huge group of conditions that we lump together.

01:24:10.440 They looked at a whole range of different cancers, including pre- and post-menopausal

01:24:14.540 breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, and bowel cancer.

01:24:17.480 And while there was an increased risk from drinking sugar for all cancer, it was only

01:24:22.760 true for one specific subtype, pre-menopausal breast cancer.

01:24:27.080 So, the idea being that every other type of cancer, it didn't show any increase at all.

01:24:33.760 It only showed an increase in pre-menopausal breast cancer.

01:24:38.140 Now, right off the bat, you think to yourself, you know, is it possible that drinking sugary

01:24:44.680 drinks...

01:24:45.460 And I'm thinking I probably don't have a risk for pre-menopausal breast cancer.

01:24:49.720 I feel like it's low.

01:24:50.120 That's my first feeling, and I'm going back to juice.

01:24:53.840 Right off the bat, you're going to eliminate a bunch of people here.

01:24:57.120 Yes.

01:24:57.380 I don't want to go into identifications here.

01:24:59.240 I'm nervous about attacking people.

01:25:01.060 I don't want you to tell you how you identify.

01:25:02.960 But, you know, like, for example, if you happen to be post-menopausal, drink up, right?

01:25:09.500 Yeah.

01:25:09.660 There was no increase there, no increase for any of these other cancers, just pre-menopausal

01:25:14.360 breast cancer.

01:25:14.960 And I find it interesting, too, that while they are different in some ways, pre-menopausal

01:25:19.460 breast cancer, huge effect.

01:25:20.880 Post-menopausal breast cancer, no effect.

01:25:24.080 Now, look, they're a little different, but still, you'd think they'd at least be some

01:25:29.940 effect for both.

01:25:31.020 Mm-hmm.

01:25:31.300 Okay?

01:25:32.260 So, it found no increase from any of these other cancers.

01:25:37.600 The absolute risk, and this is the biggest thing you'll find in these studies, more than

01:25:40.900 anything in the world to look for when you look at health and science reporting, is this.

01:25:44.840 The difference between relative risk and absolute risk.

01:25:48.840 Every headline will tell you what the relative risk is.

01:25:53.280 Relative risk is different than absolute risk.

01:25:55.460 So, here's the difference.

01:25:56.200 They say there was about a 20% increase in the incidence of cancer.

01:26:03.280 Sounds really scary, and it does sound really scary.

01:26:06.200 But the absolute risk is about 1%.

01:26:09.420 So, to put it another way, when they say, okay, it's about a 20% risk in cancer, this is how

01:26:14.580 this works out.

01:26:15.840 On average, the people who had the lowest incidence in the study, 3 out of every 100 people had

01:26:23.080 these effects of cancer.

01:26:24.560 Okay?

01:26:24.720 If you were to go to the highest risk, which is, I think, 4 sodas a day, okay, that gets

01:26:32.240 it to 4 out of 100.

01:26:34.540 So, it was 3 out of 100 with no soda.

01:26:37.540 If you drink 4 sodas a day, it goes to 4 out of 100 chance of getting cancer.

01:26:42.400 Wow.

01:26:42.700 So, it's not a 20, you think, people think 20%, like you're going from 3% to 23%.

01:26:47.140 No, it's 3% to 4%.

01:26:49.740 It's a little bit, there's fractions in there, but that's the basic thing.

01:26:52.980 So, there's a slight uptick, and you wonder, over 100,000 people, if they can really measure

01:26:58.580 that accurately, because there's other things that go on.

01:27:01.680 This is an observational study.

01:27:02.940 First of all, it's people just telling the doctors how many they have.

01:27:06.440 They're also not looking at any of the rest of what they're doing.

01:27:08.960 Well, yeah, exactly.

01:27:09.780 They try to control for some of it, you know, so some of it, like when it comes to income,

01:27:13.760 and there's certain parts of it, but like, for example.

01:27:16.400 Are they looking at what else is in their diet, though?

01:27:18.880 They, I think, partially they are.

01:27:22.040 The interesting part about that is, when you talk about an observational study, I come in,

01:27:25.340 Pat, you're Dr. Pat, and I come in, and you say to me, hey, Fatso, how many sugary drinks

01:27:31.940 are you having?

01:27:32.220 You've got a pretty good bedside manner, obviously.

01:27:33.880 Yeah, you're pretty, you're really not the best doctor.

01:27:36.920 You're a little rude.

01:27:37.320 Really?

01:27:37.700 Yeah.

01:27:37.960 Yeah, and you say, hey, Fatso, you look like crap today.

01:27:41.600 How many sodas have you had?

01:27:42.940 And I say, two.

01:27:45.500 And then I go home and have nine, or I go home and have none.

01:27:49.540 There's no way you know that.

01:27:50.520 You're actually measuring what I'm drinking.

01:27:52.260 I'm just telling you.

01:27:53.360 And think about this.

01:27:53.920 This is like a visit once a year.

01:27:55.520 I'm like, well, I've been having about two per week.

01:27:57.460 Like, how many sodas do you have per day, per week?

01:28:00.840 How many glasses of juice?

01:28:01.980 If you had to estimate that now out of nowhere, you wouldn't be able to do it accurately.

01:28:06.420 So that, and that's just one of the things, the false reporting is a major problem in these

01:28:10.540 studies all the time.

01:28:11.500 But it's entirely possible, even likely, that some other factors might be causing both the

01:28:15.880 cancer and increased sugar drinking.

01:28:17.680 For example, we know that wealthier people drink fewer soft drinks.

01:28:21.020 And we know that, we also know they are at reduced risk of many cancers.

01:28:24.900 So being rich might be confounding the relationship between cancer and sugar drinking.

01:28:28.800 And that's just one of the examples.

01:28:30.700 They try to control for these things, but you know, they're doing estimates.

01:28:33.820 That's kind of a strange thing, too.

01:28:35.340 Since when do rich people not drink soda?

01:28:37.920 Is that a thing?

01:28:38.880 Is that really a thing?

01:28:39.920 Again, it's on average.

01:28:41.000 So some people do.

01:28:42.000 But I think a lot of times you find that wealthier people wind up spending more time on their

01:28:47.360 health.

01:28:48.260 You know, they spend more time going to the gym.

01:28:50.160 They spend time, you know, they'll afford the organic, you know, salad that, you know,

01:28:56.300 instead of McDonald's, right?

01:28:58.100 Like, there's some of those things that wind up being true over long periods of time, but

01:29:01.860 they're not universal.

01:29:03.420 Point is, though, again, basically, like, if this study is right, and there's a million

01:29:07.260 questions about it, and it's not the highest quality of study, if it's right, and you drink

01:29:11.940 all the soda you want in your entire life, they're saying it goes from a 3% chance of

01:29:17.220 getting pre-menopausal breast cancer to a 4% chance.

01:29:21.280 Now, look, as a person who loves soda, and I should give you this because you did mention

01:29:24.780 it, Pat.

01:29:25.060 This is, everyone who writes these crazy things about, you know, these headlines, they

01:29:31.700 say, like, these are sites that live off of this.

01:29:34.440 Cancer, you know, cancer scare websites are an entire industry.

01:29:38.040 And one of the things they always fear monger on is artificial sweeteners.

01:29:42.520 They're always saying those things are going to give you cancer all the time.

01:29:45.940 And they all put this study about sugar giving you cancer in their headlines.

01:29:50.100 What they don't put in the headlines is this part of it.

01:29:52.160 Even fruit juice was associated with an increased cancer risk.

01:29:55.520 The only safe option, aside from water, were artificially sweetened drinks, which were not

01:30:01.000 associated with any health issues in this research.

01:30:04.540 What?

01:30:05.600 And that's been...

01:30:06.580 So, like, saccharin or...

01:30:08.000 Saccharin, aspartame, any of that stuff.

01:30:10.800 Splenda, any of them.

01:30:11.740 Wow.

01:30:12.240 There's no effect at all.

01:30:13.280 Now, that's very consistent with scientific research over multiple decades.

01:30:17.440 But these sites that would praise this if it showed that there was an artificial sweetener

01:30:25.600 increase in cancer, that would be all over every freaking news source.

01:30:28.880 Oh, yeah.

01:30:29.000 That gets buried in paragraph, like, 90 if it's mentioned at all in these studies, stories

01:30:33.920 about this.

01:30:34.860 Bottom line is, you should not be worried about how much sugar you drink and if it affects

01:30:39.640 your cancer.

01:30:40.220 I know, as a person who loves soda, if this said to me, and it was completely true, if

01:30:44.500 I had 12 sodas a day, it would increase my cancer risk by 1%, I'd still have 12 sodas

01:30:49.400 a day.

01:30:49.760 I like soda that much.

01:30:51.140 Yeah, I know you would.

01:30:51.520 Right?

01:30:51.900 I know you would, yeah.

01:30:52.660 It's better to have the information.

01:30:55.460 You can actually make decisions and not freak yourself out.

01:30:58.880 I feel like people just beat themselves into panic constantly about what they can and can't

01:31:03.020 eat, what they can and can't ingest, what they have to sleep at certain times and get

01:31:06.600 up at certain times and do all of these crazy things and take 9 million pills.

01:31:10.180 And it's like, guys, the human body is relatively resilient.

01:31:16.580 You know, try not to dip yourself in a vat of acid.

01:31:19.500 You'll probably be fine.

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01:32:29.580 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:32:48.800 You know, I love hearing these surveys, these studies that they do, because things have

01:32:57.840 just been accepted for so long.

01:32:59.500 It's just accepted that sugary drinks, you know, give you cancer or whatever.

01:33:03.820 It was just accepted for so long that salt is killing people through high blood pressure.

01:33:09.260 And then that's one I even bought into.

01:33:11.200 I always thought salt was really, was really bad.

01:33:13.840 And the amount of scientific evidence on that is minimal to none.

01:33:17.620 I mean, like it's, yeah, it really doesn't seem to have any negative effects at the amounts

01:33:23.580 that we consume it at.

01:33:25.560 And also there's a real risk of eating too little salt.

01:33:29.120 Yeah.

01:33:29.680 The guidelines, if people, if you cut your salt back too much, it actually has negative

01:33:33.820 health effects, which is amazing.

01:33:35.900 And you would never guess that.

01:33:37.140 You'd never, the way people talk about salt, you'd never guess that.

01:33:40.240 And you mentioned a butter, the butter margarine debate.

01:33:43.620 I mean, now it seems like, I remember when I was growing up in the 70s, margarine was

01:33:50.380 the thing.

01:33:51.420 Nobody ate butter because it was so bad for you.

01:33:54.340 Yeah.

01:33:55.020 And then all of a sudden, I don't know, late 80s, early 90s, butter, no, butter is natural

01:33:59.800 and that's way better than all the chemicals that are in the margarine for you.

01:34:03.960 It's so bizarre.

01:34:04.760 I mean, first of all, you find out that most, most anything, I mean, I'm not saying like,

01:34:07.920 you know, certain poisons, I wouldn't put polonium-212, as we keep bringing up.

01:34:12.160 That wouldn't be good.

01:34:12.800 That in any, in any amount is pretty bad, but like most of this stuff is going to be

01:34:17.080 fine for you if you have it in small, uh, small amounts.

01:34:20.680 Yeah.

01:34:21.200 The issue, I think, I mean, now we're to the point, you bring up butter and how it was

01:34:25.420 like the devil for a really long time.

01:34:27.760 So we're eggs, yes.

01:34:28.940 And like, yeah, but you know, now the people who tell you how to be healthy and the health

01:34:34.380 mark, you know, like the health sort of, the diet sort of complex that exists, um, you

01:34:39.800 know, when the, you know, a lot of it's now low carb and they have these things and this

01:34:43.740 is a real thing where they tell you to, people are putting butter in their coffee.

01:34:48.880 In their, in their, in their coffee.

01:34:52.280 What is it called?

01:34:52.700 Bullet, bullet, uh, there's something, there's, they have a name for it.

01:34:56.220 I can't remember the name of it.

01:34:57.200 It doesn't.

01:34:57.740 What is it?

01:34:59.360 No, I don't think so.

01:35:00.500 It doesn't sound good.

01:35:01.480 It's, first of all, it sounds to me to be, I mean, I don't, I think coffee is disgusting.

01:35:05.000 I'm not a coffee drinker.

01:35:06.000 I don't understand it.

01:35:07.020 Um, you know, you know, but a lot of people do bulletproof coffee is what they call it.

01:35:11.420 And they're put, they're taking scoops of butter and throwing it in the coffee.

01:35:16.140 That's really weird.

01:35:17.140 Now, I don't know.

01:35:17.800 Maybe that makes coffee instead of cream, I guess, instead of cream, you're putting butter

01:35:22.440 in it, which is kind of, it kind of makes sense when you think of it that way thing.

01:35:26.140 Yeah.

01:35:26.500 But also it doesn't make much sense to me.

01:35:28.740 Wow.

01:35:29.100 That is, that's strange.

01:35:30.680 Yeah.

01:35:30.900 They have all these things like the coconut oil thing was another big one they had for a while,

01:35:33.720 like coconut oils.

01:35:34.440 That's healthy.

01:35:34.920 That's healthy.

01:35:35.360 And like this, the doctors and scientists came out and they're like, guys, this is

01:35:38.640 like one of the worst things you can eat.

01:35:42.120 Is it natural?

01:35:43.880 Sure.

01:35:44.240 What does that mean?

01:35:45.080 It's like basically 100% pure fat.

01:35:49.220 So if you think, if you want to have, look, it tastes good.

01:35:52.280 And I have no problem eating a little bit of, of coconut oil if it makes a, I mean, because

01:35:57.800 sometimes it makes food taste really good.

01:35:59.320 I like coconut oil.

01:36:00.180 Yeah.

01:36:00.780 Yeah.

01:36:00.960 But like, don't act like it's healthy.

01:36:02.940 Like people just try to find the thing.

01:36:04.400 What seems least healthy?

01:36:06.020 Let's write a book about how it's healthy and then it'll sell a million copies.

01:36:09.420 Like, I don't know.

01:36:10.160 Is coconut oil healthy?

01:36:11.360 I mean, I, and that was the thing.

01:36:12.840 Glenn went through that celery thing for a while.

01:36:14.660 I don't think, I don't know if that's still happening, but he had the guy on who was like,

01:36:17.720 Hey, I magically conjured the celery is, is solving all these diseases.

01:36:21.180 And you're like, wait a minute.

01:36:22.060 I, I, you're not even saying doctors back this up.

01:36:25.940 You're just saying that you heard, like you're a, you had a medium connection to some spirit

01:36:32.140 that told you that celery is better than what doctors think it is.

01:36:36.100 Seriously.

01:36:36.460 That was the connection.

01:36:37.360 Yeah.

01:36:37.620 And you're like, I, and Glenn went along with that.

01:36:40.580 I, well, he, I, let's put it this way.

01:36:42.720 I think Tanya wanted him to eat something that was a vegetable.

01:36:46.580 That's, that's, that's my impression of that entire incident.

01:36:49.100 But the bottom line is, Glenn did eat a piece of celery at one point over the past year.

01:36:55.860 And I'm sure all the health benefits came through.

01:36:59.280 I'm sure.

01:37:00.300 Right?

01:37:00.840 Yes.

01:37:01.240 Oh, yeah.

01:37:01.960 Almost for sure.

01:37:02.900 Yeah.

01:37:03.040 Hey, it's Pat and Sue, Pat and Stu, not Sue, uh, Sue left, Pat and Stu for Glenn on the

01:37:13.040 Glenn Beck program, triple eight, seven, two, seven B E C K. Uh, so we had some dummies going

01:37:18.560 into Walmart, um, yesterday and the day before, I don't know what, I don't know what the point

01:37:23.800 of it was for this guy to dress up in, uh, I think he had body armor on, he had camo, he

01:37:30.140 had multiple firearms, uh, and a AR 15 strapped around him.

01:37:35.720 He had a hundred and they were all loaded.

01:37:38.640 He had a hundred rounds of ammo and he gets a shopping cart and starts, uh, filming himself

01:37:44.060 walking around at Walmart, uh, like that.

01:37:46.660 Now, I don't, are you making a point?

01:37:48.940 Are you just trying to get YouTube views?

01:37:51.260 Are you making a point about how I can do this?

01:37:53.960 So I'm going to, what a dumb thing to do.

01:37:57.120 Yeah.

01:37:57.200 A lot of, we've seen this a few times with like people who are second amendment activists

01:38:02.660 who think it's a good idea to, uh, to go out there and show that they legally can do, you

01:38:09.180 know, carry a gun.

01:38:10.400 That's going to scare a bunch of people around a good time for that.

01:38:12.640 Not a good place for that.

01:38:13.800 You do have legitimately, and this is not right, but you have a legitimate chance of getting

01:38:17.440 yourself killed doing that.

01:38:18.300 Yeah, you do.

01:38:18.760 Um, that's not appropriate.

01:38:20.040 It's not the right thing.

01:38:20.920 You should be able to do these things, but somebody might think because it just happened

01:38:26.000 in a Walmart, yeah, that you're a threat and there might be a security guard or an off

01:38:30.500 duty cop or whatever that takes him down.

01:38:33.400 Now there is an argument to be made and it's just stupid and they've made these arguments

01:38:37.000 before, which is basically like, because no one does it, people are, see guns as foreign

01:38:43.340 scary items.

01:38:44.380 Yeah.

01:38:44.580 Because they don't see it in their normal lives.

01:38:46.600 So they, they freak out when they do.

01:38:48.720 And there is a point there.

01:38:50.780 However, the way to make that point is not to carry around, you know, weapons in Walmart

01:38:55.280 to just in an, in an obviously right after 20 people were murdered.

01:38:59.640 Right.

01:39:00.220 And then obviously like, you know, they're trying to incite a reaction there.

01:39:04.480 Yes, they are.

01:39:05.100 And I'm probably, you know, you're lucky the reaction isn't someone thinking you're trying

01:39:08.600 to kill people and shooting you in the head.

01:39:10.400 Yeah.

01:39:10.640 I mean, you could legitimately die trying to do something like that for YouTube views.

01:39:13.420 Not worth it as it was, uh, the manager pulled the alarm.

01:39:17.120 They emptied out the store as the guy was leaving out a back door, uh, an off duty fireman

01:39:21.960 who was armed, held him at gunpoint till cops got there and arrested him.

01:39:26.900 So, and I, but he did not necessarily commit a crime.

01:39:30.020 No.

01:39:30.260 So they may find out that he's not, you know, maybe, but still, is that the day that you

01:39:34.420 want?

01:39:34.600 Is that your afternoon?

01:39:35.400 You go to the police, you go to the police station.

01:39:37.460 You answer a bunch of questions.

01:39:38.620 They think you're about to murder people.

01:39:40.320 They eventually, let's say if everything goes well, say, okay, it looks like it's

01:39:43.400 like you weren't, you were just making a point on the second amendment.

01:39:45.180 You can go home and now it's 9 PM.

01:39:47.420 Like that's your best case scenario for the afternoon.

01:39:49.880 Yes.

01:39:50.260 Not a good idea.

01:39:51.000 And nobody got hurt.

01:39:51.640 So thank goodness, uh, by the grace of God, nobody did get hurt.

01:39:55.440 Thank God.

01:39:55.620 But yeah, why, why would you do that at this particular time?

01:40:01.500 It's just, that's not worth it.

01:40:02.860 I don't think it's worth it.

01:40:04.680 Uh, also there was another guy who walked into a Walmart.

01:40:08.000 Um, this one was in Port St.

01:40:10.220 Lucie, Florida.

01:40:11.840 He went up to the counter where they sell the guns and he asked the clerk, uh, what can

01:40:18.020 I buy here that will kill 200 people?

01:40:20.140 And the clerk says that that's really not funny.

01:40:25.300 And he said, right, what can I, I know, what can I buy here that will kill 200 people?

01:40:30.680 So then they also pulled the alarm on that store and emptied that one out.

01:40:34.960 He was just an anti gun nut trying to make another point on the other side that listen

01:40:41.420 to what he had to say afterwards.

01:40:42.820 As a matter of fact, um, yes, what I did last night in Walmart was in poor taste.

01:40:49.420 Um, you think, um, uh, long time gun violence prevention activist and I'm here back home

01:40:57.240 in Port St.

01:40:57.900 Lucie, the same town where Omar Mateen purchased his guns to do the pulse, uh, the pulse massacre.

01:41:06.380 And I'm in a Walmart just a few days after El Paso and I'm seeing a white nationalist looking

01:41:13.120 guy.

01:41:14.500 Wait, what?

01:41:15.320 Purchase a gun.

01:41:16.320 Okay.

01:41:16.820 So he's, he's seeing a white nationalist looking guy.

01:41:22.020 You know, because white nationalists, we know, Pat, are bad because they judge people by their

01:41:26.680 appearance.

01:41:27.300 Right.

01:41:27.860 Uh, that's how we know white nationalism is bad because they're looking at just the

01:41:31.020 color of a skin.

01:41:32.160 Right.

01:41:32.600 And judging them.

01:41:33.420 Um, that's how, when I see someone who looks like a white nationalist, I judge them immediately

01:41:38.280 by that, by the color of their skin.

01:41:40.340 Which is obviously what this douche did.

01:41:42.800 Unbelievable.

01:41:43.280 It's just unbelievable.

01:41:44.640 I mean.

01:41:45.500 It's probably not time for stunts.

01:41:47.320 No.

01:41:47.700 Can we say that on either side?

01:41:48.780 Yeah.

01:41:48.960 Not a good stunting time.

01:41:50.580 Not a good time for a good old bit at a Walmart.

01:41:53.080 Right.

01:41:53.520 They're a little sensitive about those things at this particular moment.

01:41:56.240 Right.

01:41:56.960 And maybe this is a time to just be a freaking normal human being.

01:42:01.320 Mm-hmm.

01:42:01.600 Is that even an available option for some of these people?

01:42:04.420 And maybe we could have a, I don't know, a healing period.

01:42:06.780 What would that be like if we just, uh, got along, tried to get along with each other?

01:42:10.920 I mean, I know it's difficult.

01:42:13.820 I know there's a lot of divisiveness.

01:42:16.840 Or as, you know, they would say it on the, in the media now, divisiveness.

01:42:21.360 There's a lot of divisiveness going on.

01:42:23.220 Yeah.

01:42:23.320 Because the root word of, of divide, uh, is now David, I guess.

01:42:30.400 It is David.

01:42:30.940 It is David.

01:42:31.560 Yes.

01:42:31.860 That's confirmed.

01:42:32.760 All right.

01:42:33.560 So, uh, it would just be nice if we could just, you know, work together as human beings,

01:42:38.800 figure this out and, and not do these stunts.

01:42:41.020 Because the stunt on the one side with the guy heavily armed going through a Walmart,

01:42:44.880 that's just going to give cannon fodder to the other side.

01:42:48.500 Conversely, this guy does the same thing for us.

01:42:50.800 I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous on both ends.

01:42:53.360 Yeah.

01:42:53.620 It's ridiculous.

01:42:55.200 It's just a tough one because, you know, there was a time in which we would not rush

01:42:59.620 to this nonsense.

01:43:01.460 Oh, that time's long gone.

01:43:02.460 It's just long gone.

01:43:04.240 I mean, it's, and, you know, the Rama manual, never let a crisis go to waste is the perfect

01:43:09.560 summary for the era we live in.

01:43:11.500 You know, as much as I thought that was a really despicable sentiment at the time, you

01:43:15.100 realize how central it is to the, to everyday life in Washington, DC.

01:43:18.380 Even before the situation has been resolved, they're already politicizing it.

01:43:25.140 I mean, I don't know.

01:43:26.080 I don't even know if the killer had been apprehended at the Walmart in El Paso before we started

01:43:31.020 seeing the tweets and things from the left about how we need to get the guns.

01:43:35.540 And, and it's, and you know what, Trump's fault.

01:43:37.580 You know what, Pat?

01:43:38.660 Thoughts and prayers aren't enough.

01:43:40.360 Right.

01:43:40.760 How about that?

01:43:41.400 Right.

01:43:41.520 See that stance I just took?

01:43:42.940 Booyah.

01:43:43.480 Boom.

01:43:44.040 That's what happens.

01:43:44.840 I just put it in your face when you decided to think about the lives of the, of the victim's

01:43:49.760 families and pray for them.

01:43:50.880 I put it right in your face.

01:43:52.380 Yeah.

01:43:52.720 I stuck it in your face and now you'll think twice next time about thinking next time your

01:43:57.780 thoughts are entering your brain.

01:43:59.320 You'll think twice.

01:44:00.580 Uh, I, I mean, before I even get to a prayer, prayers are off completely.

01:44:05.640 Um, Kamala Harris really did that this week.

01:44:08.320 She, she, she actually said no more thoughts and prayers, which is fascinating.

01:44:12.140 It used to be thoughts and prayers aren't enough.

01:44:14.680 Now it's no more thoughts and prayers.

01:44:16.480 So they do not want you to pray, but they also don't want you to think neither one of

01:44:20.720 those.

01:44:20.920 Wouldn't that be wonderful for the, for the progressive government in this country?

01:44:24.420 If we just stopped praying and thinking about everything, because that really is what gets

01:44:28.580 in the way.

01:44:29.260 Yeah.

01:44:29.520 You know, this would be so easy if it wasn't for you crazy kids.

01:44:32.600 This would be so easy if it wasn't for your thinking and praying.

01:44:35.340 It just keeps getting in the way.

01:44:37.060 We want to do all these amazing things for you, but you just keep thinking and praying your

01:44:41.020 way out of them.

01:44:42.800 It is amazing that that has become a legitimate point for, and I think it falls into something

01:44:49.180 we talked about earlier today, Pat, about not learning your lesson from 2016 about deplorables.

01:44:56.040 You know, back then we kind of covered this earlier in the program, but to, you know, Hillary

01:44:59.480 Clinton made a speech about, and she said, some of these Donald Trump supporters are deplorable.

01:45:03.160 Uh, they're, they're in the basket of deplorables, racists and anti-Semites and blah, blah,

01:45:07.020 blah, blah, blah.

01:45:07.440 And of course you can make that statement and actually be accurate about every candidate

01:45:12.220 that has ever run a race.

01:45:13.280 There's always people that vote for a candidate that are awful because there's people who

01:45:18.060 do everything that are awful, right?

01:45:19.580 They're every place you go every day.

01:45:21.560 You're going to run into somebody who's kind of terrible.

01:45:23.120 And so this is not an amazing observation, but it may have been enough for her to actually

01:45:28.360 lose this race.

01:45:29.220 It pissed people off.

01:45:30.160 Stop calling us deplorable.

01:45:31.420 What are you talking about?

01:45:32.320 We're not racist.

01:45:32.980 We're not doing these things.

01:45:34.020 And because of the impression, just the impression, because it's not what she said, just the impression

01:45:38.600 that she was calling all of Donald Trump supporters deplorable.

01:45:42.900 She specifically was making the case that they weren't all that way.

01:45:47.380 She was saying, look, some of these supporters are deplorable, but you know, there's a lot

01:45:51.920 of other people who are regular Americans and are worried about the economy and we need

01:45:55.440 to make sure we're speaking to them.

01:45:56.580 That was her point.

01:45:58.400 The democratic party, instead of learning the lesson of, we better not just call a bunch

01:46:01.800 of millions of people deplorables.

01:46:03.380 Instead, now the democratic party is calling everyone who supports Donald Trump a racist.

01:46:09.360 It's not, it's not enough to just say that they have problems or they might even be deplorable

01:46:13.160 for a multitude of reasons.

01:46:14.660 No, all of them are racists.

01:46:17.260 It's the exact opposite lesson that they're learning.

01:46:19.760 And I think the same thing with, uh, with the thoughts and prayers thing.

01:46:23.900 It's like, instead of saying like, we respect the fact that there are a lot of people of faith

01:46:28.960 who disagree with us on guns.

01:46:30.680 And while we think the best thing to do is government action to massively control firearms,

01:46:36.200 we also can recognize that the overwhelming, uh, percentage of people that own guns don't

01:46:44.200 commit crimes, that they're good people.

01:46:46.220 And, you know, we are just trying to just stop these were the worst of these incidents.

01:46:49.980 Instead, it's gosh, you, you bastards, you don't want to do anything.

01:46:54.180 You want these people to die.

01:46:55.520 You're, you just, all you keep throwing out these fake prayers with your fake sky God and

01:47:00.620 boom sticks.

01:47:01.980 And it's like, that is, they are learning the opposite lesson.

01:47:06.820 They are doing everything they can to tell the average voter in the middle in Michigan,

01:47:11.880 don't vote for us.

01:47:13.640 Cause we hate you.

01:47:15.120 You know, you voted for Trump in 2016.

01:47:17.260 We despise everything you stand for.

01:47:20.060 Make sure you don't come to us in 2020.

01:47:22.720 That might, like, this is a dream for Donald Trump.

01:47:25.860 The fact that they have this giant primary and they're all falling over themselves to see

01:47:29.240 who can be most socialist and offensive to religious people is a great, a great thing

01:47:34.080 that is going on for Donald Trump's campaign.

01:47:36.380 The fact that the Democrats can't recognize that is mesmerizing.

01:47:40.880 Yeah.

01:47:41.020 It's watching them all light their electoral hopes on fire in real time.

01:47:46.060 You know, they, this is not an unwinnable race for a Democrat that the, the economy is

01:47:51.460 really good, but I mean, Trump has issues.

01:47:53.320 He's at 42 and 43% approval rating with the economy looking like this.

01:47:56.900 It should be higher, you know, he has his issues and, and a good candidate running a

01:48:01.660 race that made sense would have a chance against Donald Trump.

01:48:04.480 The way they're doing this now, yelling at you for praying for murder victims.

01:48:09.540 Crazy.

01:48:10.100 It's crazy.

01:48:11.120 And you know what?

01:48:11.820 Keep the crazy going as far as I'm concerned.

01:48:14.340 So Andy Ngo, who is the guy who was beat by, beat up by Antifa in the streets of Portland

01:48:20.080 a little while ago.

01:48:21.300 We had him on the program.

01:48:22.840 He's a journalist, not a hardcore right guy, but a guy who's critical of Antifa.

01:48:26.520 He writes an article.

01:48:27.560 Is he a gay man and a journalist or just a journalist?

01:48:29.800 I don't know.

01:48:30.520 Oh, okay.

01:48:31.300 I don't know, but I love that reference.

01:48:32.880 I did too.

01:48:33.840 Good old Phil Hendry.

01:48:34.780 Okay.

01:48:35.200 So Dayton, the Dayton shooter might be Antifa's first mass killer.

01:48:39.760 Let me give you this case here.

01:48:40.720 See what you think.

01:48:41.820 When it comes to, we all know about the right wing stuff at El Paso that everyone's saying.

01:48:45.540 When it comes to condemning the Dayton shooter's militant far left views, all remain mum.

01:48:49.920 Others, such as police activist Sean King, even claim the Dayton shooter targeted blacks

01:48:54.000 in a hate crime, though racism doesn't appear to have been a component in his twisted worldview.

01:48:58.620 The Dayton shooter didn't leave behind a manifesto, but his extensive social media footprint

01:49:02.580 provides clues as to what may have inspired him.

01:49:05.740 He had long expressed support for Antifa accounts, causes, and individuals.

01:49:09.960 That would be the, of course, loose network of militant leftist activists who physically

01:49:14.460 attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of anti-fascism.

01:49:17.660 In particular, he promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

01:49:22.040 Kill every fascist, to quote, the shooter declared in 2018 on Twitter.

01:49:27.100 Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent.

01:49:30.820 Nazis deserve death and nothing else, he tweeted last October.

01:49:34.700 He, of course, frequently flung the label Nazi around at those he disagreed with.

01:49:38.260 In response to an essay by an Intercept writer, he entitled,

01:49:42.660 Let's Defeat or Impeach Trump, But What If He Doesn't Leave the White House?

01:49:46.200 The shooter wrote, Arm, Train, Prepare.

01:49:50.020 He then tweeted in June, I want socialism, and I will not wait for the idiots to finally

01:49:54.500 come around to understanding.

01:49:56.000 He promoted posts that demonized Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy's resolution against Antifa extremism.

01:50:01.260 The national unity in rejecting violent white nationalist ideologues are emblematic of resolve

01:50:07.580 against the far right.

01:50:08.840 The unanimous rejection of El Paso shooter and his beliefs, including by President Trump,

01:50:13.400 once more demonstrated the nation's resolve against the hard right hate.

01:50:16.860 Yet when it comes to far left violent extremism, there is a gaping blind spot in the mainstream

01:50:21.240 discourse, and we are less safe because of it.

01:50:24.480 The Dayton shooter promoted the same virulently anti-law enforcement rhetoric that too many

01:50:29.480 mainstream figures on the left flirt with, and yet it was courageous police officers who

01:50:33.480 finally ended his carnage when they shot and killed him outside of that bar.

01:50:37.640 His case also makes clear Antifa's violence goes far beyond street hooliganism that it's

01:50:42.720 become infamous for.

01:50:43.900 The group espouses the belief that liberal democracy is irredeemably oppressive, fascistic

01:50:49.480 even, and must be thoroughly destroyed.

01:50:52.300 Last month, an Antifa militant firebombed an immigration and custom enforcement facility in

01:50:57.240 Tacoma, Washington.

01:50:58.280 Police say he was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack.

01:51:03.580 His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire.

01:51:06.240 In his manifesto, he called for his comrades to take up arms in confronting the ascendant

01:51:11.180 fascism of the state.

01:51:12.820 In one of his last tweets before he killed all those people in Dayton, he responded to

01:51:17.600 a person asking if the guy who firebombed the ICE facility had been a villain or a martyr.

01:51:23.540 He replied, martyr.

01:51:27.160 I mean, he had said over and over again, people should be killed for holding beliefs that

01:51:35.560 are anything but socialist.

01:51:38.000 And he supported the groups like Antifa and their attempts at violence.

01:51:42.880 Good thing that's...

01:51:43.600 And justified them.

01:51:44.200 Nothing like fascism.

01:51:45.560 I mean...

01:51:46.060 No.

01:51:46.620 Right?

01:51:46.940 No, it seems like a lot of these anti-fascists are pretty fascist.

01:51:49.500 It sure does.

01:51:51.340 Really strange.

01:51:52.240 Yeah, very strange.

01:51:53.360 He was also apparently a Satanist, which is also pretty weird.

01:51:58.240 And for the first victim that he had, it was his sister.

01:52:04.340 Yeah.

01:52:05.260 You wonder...

01:52:06.180 That's kind of why I didn't...

01:52:07.760 Really strange.

01:52:08.480 My initial interaction with this story was more of the...

01:52:12.120 Because you can be a conservative and commit a murder.

01:52:14.580 That does not mean you committed a murder because you're conservative.

01:52:18.120 Same thing here.

01:52:18.820 He could be a socialist and kill a bunch of people.

01:52:20.860 It doesn't mean it has to be because of socialism.

01:52:23.700 And my initial impression, because his sister was one of the targets, maybe it was a personal

01:52:28.320 vendetta and he just decided to kill a bunch of people, too.

01:52:30.760 But there's some evidence here.

01:52:32.020 I mean, he was really outwardly violent and advocating for that violence.

01:52:35.380 According to his friends, too, he loved his sister.

01:52:37.500 Had nothing against her.

01:52:38.640 Really a strange situation.

01:52:39.740 So weird.

01:52:40.160 So weird.

01:52:41.060 Wow.

01:52:41.300 And they're still not talking about the fact that the El Paso shooter was an environmentalist.

01:52:47.140 Yes.

01:52:47.460 Still, we get nothing on that.

01:52:48.920 No.

01:52:49.700 All right.

01:52:50.140 Have a great weekend.

01:52:51.120 See you Monday.

01:52:55.760 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 09, 2019

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