The Glenn Beck Program - 'Bombshell' Jan. 6 Testimony Is ALREADY Falling Apart

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00:02:16.220 Wow, the January 6th commission has cloned things open.

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00:04:00.840 Well, Cassidy Hutchinson has finally blown this thing completely open.

00:04:08.100 We were looking for the smoking gun in the January 6th situation that links Trump to all the madness.

00:04:16.000 Well, we have it now.

00:04:17.520 We have it.

00:04:18.900 Did you see her testimony yesterday?

00:04:20.260 I did see a bunch of the testimony, yes.

00:04:23.080 Powerful.

00:04:23.560 Now, she was the chief of staff for Mark Meadows.

00:04:28.300 Yes.

00:04:29.260 Who is the chief of staff for Donald Trump?

00:04:32.380 Right.

00:04:32.880 So, what does that make?

00:04:33.940 I don't know how that works.

00:04:35.160 Do you multiply them?

00:04:36.160 Chief of staff times chief of staff to find out what it is?

00:04:39.700 It is.

00:04:40.800 The one thing you'd say about her, and I guess this is why they made such a big deal about the testimony yesterday,

00:04:45.500 is that she's not an anti-Trump person.

00:04:49.240 She was there throughout.

00:04:52.160 She, you know, to the end was still chief of staff for Mark Meadows, right?

00:04:57.100 And Mark Meadows was the chief of staff for the president of the United States.

00:05:00.280 So, this is not someone like, you know, it's not like, I don't know who's the right example,

00:05:04.540 but there's been so many players in this at this point, but not someone who was highly skeptical of Trump the whole time

00:05:10.520 and is now saying bad things about them now that they don't have a job anymore.

00:05:14.400 She was there the whole time and was working closely with the president, had access to a lot of the internal conversation.

00:05:20.720 So, I guess that's why she was a big deal yesterday.

00:05:23.140 Yeah.

00:05:23.560 Here's what she had to say about Donald Trump being pissed off that they weren't taking him back.

00:05:29.220 He wanted to go to the Capitol building.

00:05:30.940 I want to go to the Capitol building, be with my people.

00:05:33.500 Here's what she said.

00:05:34.560 Related to him.

00:05:35.720 We're not.

00:05:36.520 We don't have the assets to do it.

00:05:38.100 It's not secure.

00:05:39.460 We're going back to the West Wing.

00:05:42.100 The president had very strong, very angry response to that.

00:05:47.740 Tony described him as being irate.

00:05:53.640 The president said something to the effect of,

00:05:56.060 I'm the effing president.

00:05:58.160 Take me up to the Capitol now.

00:06:00.560 To which Bobby responded,

00:06:02.680 Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.

00:06:06.420 The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.

00:06:11.940 Okay.

00:06:13.280 Mr. Engel grabbed his arm,

00:06:15.420 said, Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.

00:06:19.500 We're going back to the West Wing.

00:06:21.900 We're not going to the Capitol.

00:06:23.760 Right.

00:06:25.200 Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel.

00:06:29.280 And when Mr. Renato had recounted this story to me,

00:06:32.180 he had motioned towards his clavicles.

00:06:34.940 Yeah, his clavicles.

00:06:35.960 He almost grabbed his clavicles.

00:06:37.960 He's going to break his collarbones.

00:06:39.460 That's what Trump was going to do.

00:06:40.660 He's apparently very proficient at breaking people's collarbones.

00:06:43.980 He can do that with, he can just snap him in half with his hand.

00:06:47.160 And it's important to know because, you know, look,

00:06:48.540 our education system is not what it once was.

00:06:51.760 The Constitution explicitly bans the president from touching clavicles.

00:06:55.900 Yeah.

00:06:56.120 That is part, that's in the clavicle clause.

00:06:58.280 But Trump completely ignored it.

00:06:58.560 Yeah.

00:06:58.820 The clavicle clause.

00:06:59.900 Uh-huh.

00:07:00.520 Clavicle clause.

00:07:01.940 Yeah.

00:07:02.240 It's hard to say.

00:07:03.040 Uh-huh.

00:07:03.280 But that does exist.

00:07:04.560 If you're Tom Brokaw, you can't say it.

00:07:06.860 The clavicle clause.

00:07:07.980 The clavicle clause.

00:07:09.800 It's a clavicle clause.

00:07:11.860 The clavicle clause.

00:07:14.120 Yeah.

00:07:14.640 So, the idea that, okay, the speech is over.

00:07:18.900 Okay.

00:07:19.320 President Trump wants to go to the Capitol.

00:07:22.180 They're driving him back to the White House.

00:07:23.580 And look, it's a long walk.

00:07:24.720 He's not going to make that walk.

00:07:25.920 So, he wants to be in the car.

00:07:27.200 Yeah.

00:07:27.940 And he-

00:07:29.120 And they say no.

00:07:29.660 They say no.

00:07:30.440 The Secret Service says no.

00:07:31.540 Now-

00:07:31.640 So, keep in mind, he's in the beast.

00:07:33.900 Yeah.

00:07:34.040 The presidential limousine.

00:07:36.020 Yeah.

00:07:36.480 He's in the back of the limousine.

00:07:37.960 He doesn't ever ride shotgun that I know of.

00:07:40.080 Even when he calls it, he still doesn't get to do it.

00:07:43.440 Well, if he calls it first.

00:07:44.340 No.

00:07:44.780 They still don't let him do it.

00:07:46.060 Wow.

00:07:46.440 So, he's in the back.

00:07:48.200 I guess he jumps through the partition, grabs the steering wheel with his right hand, and

00:07:53.560 with his left, he's got the clavicles of the Secret Service agent who's driving in

00:07:58.420 his hand, and he's about to snap his collarbones.

00:08:03.380 It's frightening.

00:08:04.400 It was one of the first things I thought about.

00:08:06.160 How agile he is.

00:08:06.680 It didn't seem just in that vehicle that that would be possible.

00:08:10.540 It doesn't seem possible.

00:08:11.900 Right?

00:08:12.020 That's the thing.

00:08:12.820 Yeah.

00:08:13.200 And, you know, the Secret Service has already volunteered to testify on, you know, under oath

00:08:23.080 that that did not happen.

00:08:25.200 Right.

00:08:25.380 So, that's the biggest part of this, right?

00:08:27.600 Yeah.

00:08:28.100 It did not happen.

00:08:29.040 If this was the biggest story in the world from her, you would want to find out from the

00:08:34.800 Secret Service agent if it was true or not.

00:08:36.900 Right.

00:08:37.440 And, you know, Secret Service agents not...

00:08:39.280 Before you started reporting it as if it's gospel truth.

00:08:42.960 Right.

00:08:43.100 Okay.

00:08:43.660 Well, this person heard it from some other person.

00:08:46.400 It's absolutely true.

00:08:48.640 Right.

00:08:49.040 And so, you'd want to get that confirmation.

00:08:51.780 Now, Secret Service agents are not necessarily known for volunteering information.

00:08:56.940 The fact that they immediately came out and said, wait a minute, this didn't happen, is

00:09:01.220 incredible.

00:09:02.020 Without hesitation.

00:09:03.040 It dissolves the entire story immediately.

00:09:05.940 Right?

00:09:06.040 That's how bad...

00:09:06.780 Like, literally, the whole story falls apart within an hour.

00:09:09.920 Now, that doesn't mean that she lied because if you...

00:09:13.520 I think the most important part of what you just heard was that she said, Tony said, as

00:09:20.560 he recounted, it is...

00:09:22.720 She's told you it is secondhand information.

00:09:25.700 It's not like she's riding shotgun in the limo.

00:09:28.680 Right.

00:09:29.040 And sees this occur.

00:09:30.720 She's not there.

00:09:31.720 No, she didn't see this.

00:09:32.880 Right.

00:09:33.020 She didn't witness it.

00:09:33.860 She's saying she talked to the Secret Service agent...

00:09:36.940 Yeah.

00:09:37.160 ...who then told the story.

00:09:38.460 Now, it's not impossible that something happened, some sort of...

00:09:43.680 You know, he maybe...

00:09:44.280 I would totally believe that Donald Trump yelled at the Secret Service agent in that

00:09:47.940 moment.

00:09:48.600 Maybe he was very emotional in that moment.

00:09:50.740 Very possible.

00:09:51.440 And maybe he inflated the story to her.

00:09:53.700 I mean, it's not...

00:09:54.260 That's not a crazy telling of this.

00:09:56.800 Yeah.

00:09:56.880 But the bottom line is, you follow up with the people involved, and the Secret Service

00:10:03.460 agent, if he really had his clavicle attacked here, Pat, would probably be very willing to

00:10:09.980 tell the story...

00:10:11.220 Yeah.

00:10:11.500 ...if asked.

00:10:12.700 And he immediately came out instead and said the exact opposite, that it was not true.

00:10:17.420 So, that part, which is the biggest headline from the January 6th hearings in a surprise

00:10:24.460 moment with an unknown witness, bombshell...

00:10:27.940 Every media headline you will read will tell you it was a bombshell, and that has already

00:10:34.240 been opposed by the person who supposedly told the story.

00:10:38.500 Already debunked.

00:10:39.540 And not a political figure.

00:10:40.540 Like, if he was a...

00:10:41.540 Let's say it was Mark Meadows saying this.

00:10:43.300 You might say, well, Meadows is covering for Trump.

00:10:45.360 The Secret Service is not doing that.

00:10:47.240 Right.

00:10:47.440 That's not what they do.

00:10:48.120 That's not their job.

00:10:49.900 Their job is not to cover for the president in testimony.

00:10:53.180 You almost never hear of Secret Service agents, even after they've long retired, saying anything

00:10:59.000 about their service with the president.

00:11:00.580 Right.

00:11:01.020 They almost never do that.

00:11:02.120 No.

00:11:02.740 You don't hear about it at all.

00:11:04.560 Yeah.

00:11:04.860 Afterward.

00:11:05.260 I mean, we've talked to Secret Service agents who are friendlier to our cause than the cause

00:11:11.660 on the left.

00:11:12.560 We've talked to several of them over the years.

00:11:14.700 People who worked for President Obama, for example.

00:11:17.340 Dan Bongino, for instance.

00:11:18.440 Well, Dan Bongino's talked about it publicly.

00:11:20.140 He's talked about it, yeah.

00:11:20.900 But even he doesn't relate specifics about that stuff.

00:11:25.060 No, he's very limited on what he would tell you.

00:11:27.300 And we've talked to others who won't say one word on the air about what they witnessed

00:11:31.660 in the White House because they see it as part of their job to never talk about those

00:11:39.500 things.

00:11:40.180 And I think, you know, watching this, I think we had a different perspective, Pat, than

00:11:43.720 a lot of America, in that we've dealt with high-level security people because Glenn always

00:11:52.000 has them around.

00:11:52.940 I mean, you know, Glenn has had all sorts of threats on his life over the years.

00:11:56.100 And so we've talked to these guys.

00:11:58.000 We know these guys.

00:11:58.880 We talk to them off camera, off the air.

00:12:01.960 And they still won't tell people we've known for years will not give us names of celebrities

00:12:08.360 they've protected because they guard that so closely.

00:12:12.500 They don't even say who they've guarded, let alone tell you specific stories about guarding

00:12:18.220 them.

00:12:18.680 Right.

00:12:19.120 Yeah.

00:12:19.360 Because that's, you know, they see that as like their oath.

00:12:21.940 Yeah.

00:12:22.100 And it's certainly the Secret Service agencies that it's probably even a higher level and

00:12:25.960 that it's, you know, it's, it really is an oath, not just a job responsibility.

00:12:31.180 So seeing that, and then I thought another part of this, Pat, was interesting from maybe

00:12:37.740 our perspective more than, you know, the, the, a person who is in a, you know, a normal

00:12:42.900 job, not working with a person that has 15 active threats against him all the time.

00:12:46.800 The, the actions of Donald Trump, if true, not, not the clavicle part, because we know

00:12:53.620 the clavicle clause, of course, bars that behavior, but I'm saying like the, the behavior

00:12:59.300 of, I want to go with my people into a dangerous situation that my security people are saying,

00:13:05.240 no, I totally believe that's true.

00:13:07.820 I totally believe Donald Trump wanted to go down and be with his people at the Capitol.

00:13:12.820 That wouldn't surprise me at all.

00:13:13.220 It would, it would not surprise me at all because we've seen Glenn try to do the same

00:13:17.240 crap a hundred times.

00:13:18.700 And like, it is really frustrating for the security people because they're like, we can't

00:13:23.180 secure you there.

00:13:24.660 It's not that you don't trust the people who are in the crowd, but all it takes is one.

00:13:29.320 Right.

00:13:29.500 You know, all it takes is one Hinkley to be in a crowd and we've got a national tragedy

00:13:34.900 on our hands.

00:13:35.700 Yeah.

00:13:35.860 And you don't know if, if, even if 95% of those people are perfectly fine, there could

00:13:42.860 always be a psychotic person in there doing something crazy.

00:13:46.000 So the secret service and, and any good security team is going to say, dude, no, you can't go

00:13:51.300 down there.

00:13:51.980 We can't, I can't bring you down there.

00:13:53.540 We are not ready for it.

00:13:54.720 We're not prepared for it.

00:13:55.800 We can't just, you can't just spring this on us right now.

00:13:58.520 We, you, we cannot bring you down there.

00:14:00.280 We need to bring you to the West wing.

00:14:01.320 That is totally believable to me and probably true, but the way the media is presenting

00:14:08.020 that information is Donald Trump wanted to join the coup.

00:14:13.640 Donald Trump wanted to go down there.

00:14:16.080 He wanted to be there to overthrow the process.

00:14:19.780 Now.

00:14:20.520 So stupid.

00:14:21.360 Come on.

00:14:21.900 That is total spin.

00:14:24.100 He wanted to be with his people.

00:14:25.160 He wanted to show that he wasn't going to just go hide in the white house when he was asking

00:14:29.360 them to go down there and walk down to the Capitol and not riot, but protest totally

00:14:35.420 believable.

00:14:36.200 The idea that he, that Donald Trump, who's look, take all the other stuff out of it.

00:14:41.600 Donald Trump's a pretty coddled guy.

00:14:43.700 He's lived as a billionaire for how long do you think he wants to be in the middle of

00:14:48.860 a brawl inside the Capitol?

00:14:51.060 No.

00:14:51.460 Do you think he wants to be in the middle of a group of people putting flagpoles through

00:14:57.400 windows of the Capitol?

00:14:59.280 Do you think he wants to be in the middle of people?

00:15:01.120 Do you think he wants to be in the middle of a pepper spray incident?

00:15:04.260 The guy lives in a gold palace.

00:15:07.640 He does not want to be in the middle of that.

00:15:10.300 No.

00:15:10.480 If you thought he had the worst intentions, the way Donald Trump would handle that situation

00:15:14.780 is being somewhere safe, directing it from a distance.

00:15:17.460 He does not want to be in the middle of that.

00:15:19.700 That's not who the guy is.

00:15:21.520 Yeah.

00:15:21.840 And even if, you know, even if the really ridiculous story of him grabbing the wheel

00:15:27.580 and trying to drive, forcibly drive the beast back to the Capitol building, even if it

00:15:35.420 was true, what does that prove anyway?

00:15:37.880 That just proved he wanted to be there.

00:15:39.460 He wanted to go there.

00:15:39.840 He wanted to go there.

00:15:40.580 So what?

00:15:41.240 That doesn't mean he was overthrowing the government.

00:15:43.820 The clavicle thing would be bothersome.

00:15:45.520 If he was actually putting his hands on a clavicle, especially thinking he's going

00:15:51.900 to be able to do something, overtake a secret service agent, that's not smart.

00:15:58.100 Trump's a big guy, but I don't think he's winning against a secret service agent.

00:16:02.780 That's just not the profile of Donald Trump, right?

00:16:05.900 I know he has the perfect health, as we learned from his doctor.

00:16:08.700 Yeah, he does.

00:16:09.300 But I don't think that that would happen.

00:16:10.860 But, and, you know, that has been, let's take a quick break and come back on the other

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00:16:21.980 Yeah.

00:16:22.400 And this one's going to hit you hard.

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00:16:24.280 This one's going to hit you hard.

00:16:25.120 Back in 60 seconds.

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00:18:07.720 So Pat just reminded me that there's actually a couple big, maybe we get to go through this hour.

00:18:26.200 Yeah, I'm not sure if this is enough time in this segment.

00:18:29.220 I think we're going to have to stretch it out a little bit.

00:18:31.140 Really?

00:18:31.940 There were too many bombshells yesterday.

00:18:34.800 Let me give you one quick one, which I thought was pretty fascinating.

00:18:37.280 And just a typical misunderstanding of American culture, right, from the media.

00:18:42.700 The headline of part of Cassidy's testimony yesterday, this is the Mark Meadows, chief of staff.

00:18:49.780 She said that Donald Trump wanted people, he wanted to take the magnetometers out, and he wanted the people who were outside of the rally area to be allowed in,

00:19:01.940 even though he was told they were armed.

00:19:06.900 And then he wanted to march with them to the Capitol.

00:19:11.060 So the way that's been summarized by the media is Donald Trump wanted to march with armed men to the Capitol.

00:19:16.920 That is how they're literally summarizing this entire story.

00:19:19.860 Now, when you listen to what even she said about Trump, what he said, first of all, I want these people to be allowed in because my area of crowd is not filled up and it looks like it's empty.

00:19:32.320 That was his big complaint.

00:19:33.640 Now, we've only heard Donald Trump complain about that every single time it's happened throughout his entire life, right?

00:19:39.900 Like, we all know that Donald Trump likes full crowds, even sometimes when they're not full, he says they're full, right?

00:19:45.300 Like, this is really important to Donald Trump, as we all understand.

00:19:49.080 So the fact that he would want more people allowed into that area is totally believable, right?

00:19:55.200 He probably did.

00:19:56.800 And when they said, sir, these people are armed, he said, they're not here to harm me.

00:20:04.140 And he wanted them to come in.

00:20:06.580 Now, what I read this as totally is a complete media misunderstanding of the Second Amendment and guns.

00:20:15.080 They think they were armed to kill people.

00:20:17.880 Yeah.

00:20:18.080 When they see a gun, they say the only reason they could be there is because they want to kill people.

00:20:22.160 No.

00:20:22.480 That is not why people have guns, right?

00:20:26.180 I carry a gun sometimes.

00:20:28.380 And when I have it, I don't want to kill anyone.

00:20:31.380 I hope I never have to use it.

00:20:33.400 The same thing, I'm sure, is happening here.

00:20:37.200 We have had people, we've had people who are armed around us many, many, many times that are listeners of this show.

00:20:42.540 And we believe that gun owners are not psychopaths.

00:20:46.100 So we don't think that violence is about to break out because they're armed.

00:20:49.580 And they are making such a big deal of some of these people being at the Capitol building when the riot occurred and some of them were armed.

00:20:58.460 Well, yeah.

00:20:59.260 Did they use it?

00:21:00.260 Did they use their guns?

00:21:01.340 No.

00:21:01.680 Not one person except the cop who shot Ashley Babbitt.

00:21:06.700 Nobody else used a gun.

00:21:09.180 Right.

00:21:09.460 That's true.

00:21:10.100 And, you know, look, I, again, can understand why the Secret Service would say no to this request.

00:21:17.000 I understand.

00:21:18.100 You don't know if one of those people is a psycho that's going to take a shot at the president.

00:21:21.780 However, I also understand President Trump saying, like, look, these are my people.

00:21:26.540 They're not going to try to take a shot at me.

00:21:28.720 I want them in here.

00:21:30.180 I want them to be part of this.

00:21:31.860 Again, this is, it's so easy to apply our current understanding of what happened on January 6th to the moments before the riot broke out.

00:21:40.880 It's easy to apply that now because, like, wait a minute, armed people marching to the Capitol, riot.

00:21:45.900 He wanted to be there.

00:21:47.040 I mean, he wanted to be in the middle of a riot.

00:21:49.300 Like, come on, guys.

00:21:50.840 You think Donald Trump wanted to be in the middle of a riot?

00:21:54.080 No.

00:21:54.580 That is not who, he's not who he is.

00:21:57.120 He wanted to be down there to support his people, to be able to maybe make another speech, to be able to show that he was with the people, people who were going to be responsible for his political future, his business future.

00:22:10.740 He didn't want to be hiding in the White House.

00:22:13.240 He wanted to say, I'm down there.

00:22:14.860 This is before the riot breaks out.

00:22:16.900 And the fact that he's saying he's not scared of guns is because he's a believer in the Second Amendment and he's not scared of guns.

00:22:25.520 I understand you and the media are scared of guns.

00:22:28.240 So you see guns and you're like, oh, my gosh, he wanted to an armed revolt at the Capitol.

00:22:32.720 I don't think there's any evidence from this testimony at all, even her accusations, that back that up.

00:22:40.120 I don't think there's any accusations there that say anything other than Donald Trump realizes his people are supporters of the Second Amendment, so some of them would have guns naturally and he wasn't scared of them.

00:22:51.880 That's all.

00:22:52.760 There's more.

00:22:53.920 We'll see what you have to say about it.

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00:24:22.600 All right.

00:24:30.320 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:33.140 We've been showing you some of the bombshell evidence that came out yesterday from the J6 committee.

00:24:39.560 I like how you said that, Pat.

00:24:41.040 J6.

00:24:41.660 Yeah.

00:24:41.960 You know, it's not January.

00:24:43.320 It's not important enough.

00:24:45.480 It's like Fast and Furious 5.

00:24:47.460 It just became F5.

00:24:48.740 F5.

00:24:49.180 You know what I mean?

00:24:49.860 F9.

00:24:50.660 This is as important to this country's future as Fast and Furious 5.

00:24:54.860 And I do not say that lightly.

00:24:57.540 Well, it's almost, almost as important to the country as F5.

00:25:02.780 All right.

00:25:03.080 You're right.

00:25:03.600 I mean, it's not quite.

00:25:04.720 It's not as important as Fast and Furious 3 Tokyo Drift.

00:25:08.740 No.

00:25:09.300 That's obviously more important to the country.

00:25:11.660 But F5, I think there's an equivalency there that I think works pretty well.

00:25:17.860 So Cassidy Hutchinson, who is the chief of staff for the chief of staff, and she had some incredible things to say yesterday.

00:25:28.520 One of them that Donald Trump leapt from the back seat of his limousine to the front seat and tried to grab the steering wheel and the clavicle of the Secret Service agent at the same time.

00:25:40.760 One of the things I thought was most interesting about that part of her testimony was how she said it happened Matrix style.

00:25:47.120 And he paused in midair as he was going through the partition.

00:25:50.320 Yeah.

00:25:50.640 And he was able to do both of them like Neo.

00:25:53.600 I thought it was pretty interesting.

00:25:55.020 That part of it was unexpected.

00:25:56.980 But again, it was secondhand information.

00:25:58.660 So we don't know for sure.

00:25:59.800 We don't know for sure.

00:26:02.300 Right.

00:26:02.700 So, but she had more.

00:26:07.760 She had more.

00:26:08.600 She did.

00:26:09.100 Yeah.

00:26:09.380 She had a lot.

00:26:10.180 I mean, she was up there for a while.

00:26:11.700 And if this doesn't finally get you to understand what this president was doing that day, I don't know what will.

00:26:19.240 Here's what she had to say.

00:26:20.420 The physical altercation that Ms. Hutchinson described in the presidential vehicle was not the first time that the president had become very angry about issues relating to the election.

00:26:33.940 On December 1, 2020, Attorney General Barr said in an interview that the Department of Justice had not found evidence of widespread election fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.

00:26:46.180 Ms. Hutchinson, how did the president react to hearing that news?

00:26:51.980 Around the time that I understand the AP article went live, I remember hearing noise coming from down the hallway.

00:27:01.500 So I poked my head out of the office.

00:27:03.620 I saw the valet walking towards our office.

00:27:07.160 He had said, get the chief down to the dining room.

00:27:10.080 The president wants him.

00:27:12.100 So Mark went down to the dining room and came back to the office a few minutes later.

00:27:16.920 After Mark had returned, I left the office and went down to the dining room.

00:27:21.800 And I noticed that the door was propped open and the valet was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table.

00:27:29.280 He motioned for me to come in and then pointed towards the front of the room near the fireplace mantle and the TV where I first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall.

00:27:40.600 And there's a shattered porcelain plate on the floor.

00:27:45.060 The valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's AP interview.

00:27:55.500 Oh, no.

00:27:56.160 And had thrown his lunch against the wall.

00:27:59.160 Oh, what?

00:28:00.880 Which was causing them to have to clean up.

00:28:04.420 So I grabbed a towel and started wiping the ketchup off of the wall to help the valet out.

00:28:09.160 The ketchup.

00:28:10.640 And he said something to the effect of, he's really ticked off about this.

00:28:14.660 Don't say that.

00:28:15.200 I would stay clear of him for right now.

00:28:18.440 He's really, really ticked off about this right now.

00:28:21.380 Yeah.

00:28:21.740 Wow.

00:28:22.560 Wow.

00:28:23.240 Wow.

00:28:23.980 He was in a complete rage to the point where he threw his lunch against the wall and ketchup was dripping down it as a result.

00:28:35.600 Do we know it wasn't blood, Pat?

00:28:37.400 Do we know he hadn't murdered someone and then thrown them against the wall?

00:28:40.360 I don't know that we do.

00:28:41.480 Frankly, I don't know that we do.

00:28:42.340 We don't know.

00:28:43.160 Was it brain matter and blood?

00:28:45.920 We don't know.

00:28:46.500 We don't know.

00:28:46.980 We don't know.

00:28:47.560 All we know is there was red stuff falling down a wall.

00:28:50.660 Like, okay.

00:28:52.800 Could you believe that he threw?

00:28:54.220 I can totally believe that.

00:28:55.620 Totally believe it.

00:28:56.540 Right?

00:28:56.740 That he threw something against the wall?

00:28:58.160 Look.

00:28:58.640 So what?

00:28:59.500 What is the?

00:29:01.100 Yes.

00:29:01.880 I don't even know what to say about.

00:29:03.480 What is the accusation here?

00:29:04.720 I know.

00:29:04.740 He got pissed off once in a bad moment for him?

00:29:06.760 Yeah.

00:29:07.100 So what?

00:29:07.740 Like, it was probably one of the most significant moments.

00:29:11.120 In his fight to win the election.

00:29:15.340 Because Barr had been a very, very loyal, not, I don't want to say loyal defender, because

00:29:21.260 I think that undercuts Barr.

00:29:22.460 I think that, like, he wasn't like a mindless defender.

00:29:24.860 He was a credible defender, though, of Trump throughout the impeachment and many other times

00:29:29.000 when things could have gone awry for the administration.

00:29:31.700 Barr was one of the strongest voices for Trump for several years, because he actually had

00:29:39.300 some credibility.

00:29:40.280 He didn't come at this, he didn't sound like, you know, some partisan supporter of Trump.

00:29:47.420 He was very well-reasoned and calm.

00:29:49.600 And that's why, you know, for most of the Trump administration, Trump fans loved the guy.

00:29:54.300 I mean, he was really, he did a good job defending Trump.

00:29:59.260 He disagreed with him on what happened, obviously, after the election.

00:30:03.120 And when he came out and said it publicly, it put that effort to try to win the election

00:30:11.040 at, in real peril.

00:30:13.480 I mean, it was probably, it was one of the toughest moments, I think, in that effort for

00:30:18.600 the president.

00:30:19.040 So, the fact that he was pissed off about that does not surprise me at all, right?

00:30:23.640 Like, and the fact that it may have pissed him off enough to throw a hamburger against

00:30:27.500 the wall isn't exactly shocking to me.

00:30:30.320 Not me either.

00:30:31.360 No.

00:30:31.880 I don't, I, what is the accusation here?

00:30:34.400 That he's, like, so out of control with anger, that he can't, he couldn't be trusted in those

00:30:38.720 moments?

00:30:39.200 I mean, I, I think if you go back, certainly you'd find that type of behavior from Nixon.

00:30:44.280 Oh.

00:30:44.560 You'd find that type of behavior from LBJ.

00:30:46.520 LBJ, completely.

00:30:48.560 Clinton, probably Bill Clinton.

00:30:50.780 Probably Clinton.

00:30:51.960 I mean, I, I think there is a, these are big moments.

00:30:57.620 These are historic moments.

00:30:58.900 You know, at that point, he's seeing someone who's generally speaking, been on his side,

00:31:03.440 say something he didn't like that, that put one of his biggest efforts in peril.

00:31:08.620 Take it out of the idea of whether you think his, his efforts to win that election were

00:31:13.840 right or wrong.

00:31:14.680 He wanted to win it.

00:31:15.560 He believed he was correct in what, in what he was saying.

00:31:19.700 And he did not want someone undercutting him.

00:31:23.380 Right.

00:31:23.520 Now, look, I think it's Barr's responsibility for him to say what he believed was true.

00:31:27.780 And so you can be critical of Barr on that or not.

00:31:32.080 If you believe that Barr was wrong, you probably don't like it.

00:31:35.320 But the bottom line was both of these guys should probably be saying what they believe

00:31:38.960 is true.

00:31:40.040 And, you know, did it piss off Trump in that moment?

00:31:42.400 I'm sure it did.

00:31:43.400 I'm sure it did.

00:31:44.060 It would not surprise me at all.

00:31:45.680 Yeah.

00:31:45.840 But what is the point of that?

00:31:48.320 That has nothing to do with January 6th.

00:31:49.860 I honestly don't know.

00:31:50.920 Yeah.

00:31:51.340 It's just an anecdote that makes him look bad.

00:31:54.100 It makes him look angry.

00:31:55.680 It makes him look out of control.

00:31:56.940 Like nobody's had an angry moment?

00:31:58.900 Yeah.

00:31:59.300 We've all had angry moments.

00:32:00.300 I don't know if I've ever thrown a hamburger at the wall.

00:32:04.080 No.

00:32:04.400 You don't want to lose a hamburger.

00:32:05.960 I tossed a spatula once across a room.

00:32:08.240 Pat.

00:32:08.700 Yeah.

00:32:09.580 This is not secondhand information.

00:32:11.000 You're telling me this actually happened?

00:32:12.500 From the source.

00:32:14.180 Yes.

00:32:14.620 I'm the one who did it.

00:32:15.560 Wow.

00:32:15.720 And I'm the one relating the story.

00:32:17.700 That is, wow.

00:32:18.640 I can't believe you said that on national radio.

00:32:20.920 I was probably in my early 20s and I threw a spatula from the dining room to the kitchen.

00:32:27.840 I don't feel safe being in this room with you right now.

00:32:30.120 The overwhelming anger.

00:32:32.500 You can blow your top at any time.

00:32:33.140 I will say I have mellowed a little bit with age and I haven't thrown spatulas since.

00:32:39.140 But yeah, there was a time when I threw a spatula.

00:32:42.300 I think we've all had moments where we lose it, right?

00:32:45.780 Oh, yeah.

00:32:46.560 And would you be at all surprised if the president lost it in that moment?

00:32:50.600 No.

00:32:51.440 I'd be surprised if he didn't, frankly.

00:32:53.140 Yeah.

00:32:53.500 I would.

00:32:54.200 Because that is something that meant a lot to him.

00:32:57.380 Say what you will about whether or not you think the election was fraudulent.

00:33:01.600 He believed it was.

00:33:03.720 He thought he won.

00:33:04.700 And frankly, I can't believe this buffoon beat him.

00:33:09.240 I can't believe it.

00:33:11.240 And it's still really hard to believe he got 81 million votes.

00:33:15.020 That's really hard to believe.

00:33:17.800 And look, a big part of the January 6th hearings have been trying to convince you that someone

00:33:25.780 close to Donald Trump told him that he didn't win.

00:33:30.180 Well, yeah, they did.

00:33:32.160 You know, Bill Barr wrote a whole book about it.

00:33:34.120 Right.

00:33:34.480 Right.

00:33:34.800 Like, this is not a surprise.

00:33:36.280 It's not been a secret from him.

00:33:38.180 A lot of people around him did not believe in what he was doing, which is, you know, look,

00:33:43.220 you can, I think you can be critical if you don't believe that the election was stolen

00:33:48.000 and say, hey, he should have believed these credible people instead of people like Sidney

00:33:51.860 Powell.

00:33:52.620 Right.

00:33:52.840 Like, I think totally that's a totally legitimate piece of criticism.

00:33:56.000 And part of what Trump tends to do, as we've seen this over, over the years, is to find

00:34:03.140 the people who agree with him and go to them more often.

00:34:07.800 Right.

00:34:08.180 Like he finds like that.

00:34:09.380 And that's not you could say that's not a good trait, but you cannot say it is a like

00:34:15.720 that.

00:34:15.980 He knew, look, he knew he'd lost and he was going to overthrow the government like that.

00:34:20.020 It's not what that's not what we know about Donald Trump.

00:34:22.260 That's not who we've seen in multiple decades of public life.

00:34:26.480 You know, did he go?

00:34:27.700 Did he lean toward people like Rudy Giuliani who were supporting his theories?

00:34:32.920 I'm sure he did.

00:34:34.420 Yeah.

00:34:34.720 I'm sure he did.

00:34:35.580 When people told him, no, sir, you lost.

00:34:38.200 He didn't like them as much.

00:34:39.560 That is that's kind of how Donald Trump acts.

00:34:41.740 I mean, we've heard that from Bill O'Reilly, who's tight with with Donald Trump and who who

00:34:47.360 was, I mean, just went on tour with the guy.

00:34:49.580 You know, I mean, they right.

00:34:51.020 Yeah.

00:34:51.200 You know, when when I asked him, I said, like, well, what, you know, talking to Bill

00:34:54.700 O'Reilly, I said, Bill, what what was happening in this moment?

00:34:59.360 You know, what why why didn't he react as quickly as a lot of a lot of people thought

00:35:04.500 he should on January 6th when the riots going on?

00:35:06.880 Why isn't he tweeting stuff like get the hell out of that building?

00:35:09.860 Right.

00:35:10.580 I think we all know enough about Donald Trump to know that he loves the country and does

00:35:15.480 not want the cap the Capitol ransacked.

00:35:18.040 And now I know people on the left would disagree with that.

00:35:22.040 But I think most people would understand that, like, while you might not disagree, you might

00:35:26.120 not agree with everything that Trump says, you know, the guy loves the country and there's

00:35:29.140 no he would not.

00:35:30.120 This was not his plan.

00:35:31.060 He was not trying to ransack the Capitol.

00:35:32.640 But even if you think it was, I asked Bill, I said, well, why didn't he respond quickly?

00:35:38.060 Why didn't he come out with that that tweet that I think every that people like Sean Hannity

00:35:43.420 and Mark Meadows and Donald Trump Jr.

00:35:46.160 and Ivanka Trump were texting and saying, please make him make this statement.

00:35:49.420 Why did he take so long?

00:35:50.560 And Bill said he didn't know what to do.

00:35:53.000 These were his people.

00:35:54.400 He knew it was wrong, but he didn't want to sit up, come out here and go after his people.

00:35:58.620 Right.

00:35:59.180 And that makes a lot of sense.

00:36:00.820 It makes sense.

00:36:01.800 You can still be critical of that.

00:36:04.000 You could say, well, he should have known what to do.

00:36:06.080 Yes.

00:36:06.360 But the bottom line was it's very consistent with who we see Trump as.

00:36:10.820 He's loyal to the people who are close to him, who have supported him.

00:36:14.740 And when they stop supporting him, he's not so loyal to them.

00:36:17.700 Like, that's just kind of who Donald Trump is.

00:36:19.880 And it's something that we all know about him.

00:36:22.500 He really believed he this, you know, he won this election and he was going to do whatever

00:36:29.200 he could to try to to write that wrong.

00:36:33.820 And look, after December 14th, there is nothing in the Constitution that allows for this.

00:36:40.780 I mean, safe harbor day is a thing.

00:36:43.020 And once you pass it, there's really nothing to do legally.

00:36:46.900 But, you know, he even if it was looking toward the future, he wanted to make sure that he

00:36:53.460 he got that that truth out there that he won in his eyes.

00:36:57.660 So it's not surprising at all that if Bill Barr said you didn't win, he just didn't believe

00:37:01.500 him and he threw a hamburger and he threw a freaking hamburger.

00:37:05.040 That's not this is not this is not I don't think it's national news that the president got

00:37:10.120 angry and threw a hamburger.

00:37:11.720 It is not.

00:37:12.920 Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B.E.C.K.

00:37:15.020 So obviously now we now know that Pat, I hate to scare the audience here, but I believe

00:37:43.940 the January 6th hearings will result in the president, Donald Trump, needing to leave

00:37:51.160 office.

00:37:51.860 Oh, no.

00:37:52.340 Yeah.

00:37:52.880 I don't think he's going to remain in office right now.

00:37:55.520 Wow.

00:37:55.940 And I think he's going to have to.

00:37:57.540 That's quite a statement.

00:37:58.480 I think for the next two years, he's not going to be in the White House at all.

00:38:03.540 Completely barred from the White House.

00:38:04.760 I think he's not going to be.

00:38:05.760 Well, he's not going to be president.

00:38:06.600 He may visit.

00:38:07.160 He may take a tour.

00:38:07.880 OK, you know, but he won't be.

00:38:10.580 He won't be the guy in charge.

00:38:12.000 I think for a good two years plus.

00:38:16.220 And I hate that.

00:38:16.920 Look, I think these these hearings have been because I wish he was in charge.

00:38:22.020 No kidding.

00:38:23.720 But right now.

00:38:25.100 Yeah.

00:38:25.780 But I think they're that impactful.

00:38:28.300 I think they may result in the exact situation we're currently in.

00:38:32.060 And that is it seems not a good one.

00:38:35.080 What they're trying to do is preclude him from holding office again.

00:38:39.060 I think you're right.

00:38:39.560 That seems to be the point to me that, OK, this is a really bad guy.

00:38:43.960 This is a guy who throws hamburgers against the wall and ketchup drips down the wall.

00:38:49.060 I mean, just as a person who might love hamburgers, you may have a problem with that.

00:38:52.840 Right.

00:38:53.160 Like, don't waste.

00:38:54.460 Hey, don't disrespect.

00:38:55.500 Don't you dare.

00:38:56.360 No.

00:38:56.840 I do think that's what they're trying to do.

00:38:58.440 Look, they see this.

00:38:59.740 There's two things I think they're trying to do here.

00:39:01.140 One is to make sure Trump does not come back, does not become the candidate.

00:39:05.820 There's rumors he may announce he's going to run for president, like, within the next

00:39:09.520 few weeks.

00:39:10.200 Yeah, soon.

00:39:10.620 I don't believe that.

00:39:12.400 I don't know.

00:39:12.840 I guess the fundraising.

00:39:13.600 I think he waits until next year.

00:39:14.940 Yeah, the fundraising thing, maybe you could see that as the advantage.

00:39:17.780 But it would seem almost like a sign that he's scared of DeSantis, I think, if he did this

00:39:24.940 now.

00:39:25.520 I mean, DeSantis still has a gubernatorial election coming up.

00:39:28.480 He obviously isn't going to announce now.

00:39:31.140 And it would almost seem like he's trying to get out ahead of DeSantis.

00:39:35.100 And I don't think Trump feels the need to do that.

00:39:37.700 I think he's going to announce when he feels like announcing.

00:39:39.740 And maybe it'll be soon.

00:39:40.760 I don't know.

00:39:41.120 I could be wrong on that.

00:39:42.120 That's totally a guess.

00:39:43.480 But, you know, you look at this situation and he's, they're trying to get him so he

00:39:48.900 is injured, right, politically and cannot run for office, maybe even something like more

00:39:55.320 than that.

00:39:55.660 But I think also it's, it's their attempt to distract from all the bad things that are

00:39:59.540 happening under Biden right now.

00:40:00.940 They're going to lose this, this midterm election in a landslide.

00:40:04.280 And they're looking for anything else to, to dig their claws into.

00:40:07.740 We talked about it yesterday with the abortion ruling.

00:40:10.060 And this is the same thing.

00:40:11.760 They're looking for something to distract people from the fact that their life kind of sucks

00:40:15.560 right now, you know?

00:40:17.020 And that's, I don't think it's going to work, but you, you know, they have to try something

00:40:21.760 here.

00:40:22.060 Yep.

00:40:23.920 And they're pulling out all the stops.

00:40:27.220 I mean, Cassidy Hutchinson with her testimony yesterday.

00:40:32.420 Powerful, powerful stuff.

00:40:35.000 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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00:42:28.340 And this is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:34.860 Amazon employees wrote a little letter to the leadership of Amazon demanding certain things.

00:42:42.460 We'll share some of that with you coming up in 60 seconds.

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00:44:11.440 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:44:15.540 Here's another example of the inmates running the asylum.

00:44:19.520 The Amazon employees got together and wrote the leadership of Amazon, an open letter.

00:44:26.520 Group of pro-abortion Amazon employees filed this public letter to the company where they

00:44:32.480 demanded that the online retailer cease any and all business in pro-life states.

00:44:38.820 We, the undersigned, they wrote, come to you today to request immediate and decisive action

00:44:45.000 against the threat to our basic human rights with the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

00:44:49.780 As part of Amazon's wide-reaching efforts toward a more inclusive and diverse workforce.

00:44:56.780 Really?

00:44:57.840 Are they really trying to get a more inclusive and diverse workforce?

00:45:01.160 We believe that Amazon cannot let this recent decision go unanswered.

00:45:05.420 We ask Amazon, the world's best employer, to actively defend against this assault on our liberty.

00:45:14.200 Since when is this a corporation's job in this country to defend their employees' liberty?

00:45:23.340 I mean, Amazon's in business to make money.

00:45:26.300 Let's face it.

00:45:27.020 That's what they want to do.

00:45:30.560 Bezos started the company so that he could make a living for himself and his family.

00:45:34.940 It worked out pretty well.

00:45:36.340 It turns out that he made a really nice living for himself and his family.

00:45:41.840 And it's not his responsibility to follow up on the ideology of his employees.

00:45:50.800 But they want him to cease operations in states that enact laws that threaten the lives and liberty of abortion seekers.

00:46:00.080 That's so stupid.

00:46:02.340 I would abort every one of their careers.

00:46:04.500 I would too.

00:46:05.260 Everyone who signed it, I'd abort that career.

00:46:08.120 Either by denying health care in life-threatening circumstances or by criminalizing abortion seekers and providers.

00:46:14.060 Nobody is criminalizing abortion seekers.

00:46:17.880 Now, some have threatened the abortion providers, like, you know, the doctors or the clinics that are involved.

00:46:26.740 But nobody is saying that the woman is going to be prosecuted in any way.

00:46:31.740 I don't think that's in any of these laws.

00:46:34.100 Nor is their life in danger because in, I believe, every single case in these states that are banning abortion,

00:46:42.780 there's the exception for the mother's life being in danger.

00:46:45.660 Every single one.

00:46:46.380 Every one of them.

00:46:47.140 Now, their argument is this weird Roe versus Wade argument that's been around for a long time now,

00:46:54.060 which is, well, they could die in childbirth.

00:46:58.960 That's really their argument here.

00:47:00.640 Like, if you make them carry to term, they could theoretically die during childbirth.

00:47:04.420 I mean, come on.

00:47:05.640 Really?

00:47:06.080 Is this 1842 now?

00:47:07.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:08.540 Is that where we are?

00:47:09.340 We're a little house on the prairie.

00:47:11.400 And the doc is about 80 miles away.

00:47:14.720 We got to get him by carriage.

00:47:17.020 Right.

00:47:17.480 It's just so painfully stupid.

00:47:20.420 It is stupid.

00:47:20.940 Obviously, you could die during childbirth.

00:47:22.700 You could die driving to the hospital before childbirth, too.

00:47:26.100 You could die for a lot of reasons.

00:47:27.640 You can't predict it.

00:47:28.460 Obviously, the chances of you dying during childbirth are very, very small.

00:47:32.140 It's ridiculous.

00:47:32.280 But you could also die during an abortion.

00:47:34.560 Yeah.

00:47:34.880 You know, true.

00:47:35.800 There's risk everywhere all the time.

00:47:37.680 That is, it's not a sensible point.

00:47:39.940 They've been trying to make that, you know, they tried to make that back 50 years ago because it was more common.

00:47:45.420 And so they would compare it against abortion, which, you know, also has its risks.

00:47:50.180 But especially with, like, the medical ones they have now, their claims are, well, it's not, you know, it's much safer than going through with a full childbirth.

00:47:57.720 Now, look, in 2022, we're talking about two very unlikely outcomes.

00:48:05.820 It's unlikely that you would die during an abortion.

00:48:08.080 It is unlikely that you would die during childbirth.

00:48:10.220 That's not very common.

00:48:11.680 And it might be about equally risky on both of those.

00:48:15.420 You might have about an equal chance with each.

00:48:17.620 I don't know.

00:48:18.580 They claim, you know, their claim is, oh, no, it's much more dangerous.

00:48:22.600 You know, and, like, it's not, you know, this is a relative versus absolute risk thing they're doing here, which is, like, both, when you talk about absolute risk, chances are incredibly low that either one of these two things would happen.

00:48:37.880 However, their claim is, oh, well, if you compare, if you do a relative risk calculation, you could say, well, it's much more likely.

00:48:45.880 It's very unlikely either way.

00:48:47.980 It's a silly, silly defense.

00:48:49.700 It's ridiculous.

00:48:50.920 It's ridiculous.

00:48:51.800 It's just, come on.

00:48:52.800 Come on.

00:48:53.880 It's just, it's completely ridiculous.

00:48:55.940 I mean, we've talked, I don't know, badger people with all the numbers and go through the whole argument again, but it's just a silly argument.

00:49:02.260 I mean, anything can happen in life.

00:49:04.520 Of course, you're going to die at some point.

00:49:06.960 There's 100% chance of death in your future.

00:49:10.240 You know, I hate to break it to you.

00:49:12.180 There's 100% chance you're going to die someday.

00:49:14.680 Yeah.

00:49:14.880 And, you know, you're not going to be able to manage exactly when that's going to happen.

00:49:18.780 The chances of you dying during childbirth are extraordinarily low all, you know, in any developed country at this point.

00:49:25.800 But they've been doing this from the beginning, even before Roe v. Wade.

00:49:29.140 This is how they got Roe v. Wade passed in part is lying about the risk for women who don't have access to abortions because they just made up a number of 10,000 back alley abortion.

00:49:44.880 deaths every year.

00:49:46.700 Well, what?

00:49:47.820 Where did you get that?

00:49:49.240 If you go back and look at where they got that, which 10,000 back alley abortion deaths every year.

00:49:57.920 There was a doctor who was a pro-abortion guy who just made it up.

00:50:02.480 He just completely picked a number and threw it out there.

00:50:07.280 The press ran with it.

00:50:08.700 And that's one of the things that turned the tide.

00:50:12.920 So often the case with the left and their arguments.

00:50:15.860 It's the same thing with the straw situation.

00:50:19.080 The straw one is the one.

00:50:19.560 With a nine-year-old kid in a homework project trying to figure out how many straws were wasted every day.

00:50:26.120 And somebody threw out a number that was completely inaccurate and made up of 500 million a day.

00:50:32.360 And it was a kid, legitimately a kid, who put this in a school project.

00:50:36.640 And everybody ran with it.

00:50:38.540 These dumb restaurants have paper straws.

00:50:40.880 It's legitimately the story.

00:50:43.280 Yeah.

00:50:43.560 A nine, I think it was a nine-year-old.

00:50:45.320 It was a nine-year-old.

00:50:46.780 Who had a school project that got into the media and then got picked up by a bunch of people.

00:50:52.280 And then everyone said, oh my gosh, the problem here are plastic straws.

00:50:54.640 We need to get rid of the plastic straws and have paper straws that immediately fold when you start putting liquid through them because they're paper.

00:51:01.420 Paper and liquid are not always the best match.

00:51:04.640 And then they fold and you have to ask for three more.

00:51:07.780 So it doesn't save the environment at all.

00:51:10.540 And we are down that road.

00:51:12.520 Another one, the garbage island in the middle of the ocean.

00:51:16.680 Yeah, the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

00:51:18.820 Yeah, which does not exist.

00:51:20.420 Which is two and a half times the size of Texas.

00:51:21.840 Yeah, been reported a million times, does not exist.

00:51:24.040 Can't, for some reason, be photographed by satellite imagery.

00:51:27.720 For some reason, we don't have a picture of it.

00:51:30.100 Why don't we have a picture of it?

00:51:31.580 Because as Stu just said, it doesn't exist.

00:51:33.740 It's not really there.

00:51:34.760 These things are so widespread that I remember when I learned that the island didn't exist,

00:51:41.580 because I went through the exact same process you went through, Pat.

00:51:44.660 I said, well, wait a minute.

00:51:46.260 Why isn't there a picture of this?

00:51:47.420 What does it look like?

00:51:48.160 Where is it?

00:51:48.720 What's the location of it?

00:51:49.840 And you look for it and, oh yeah, there isn't one.

00:51:52.760 They're just saying there's a bunch of garbage in the ocean.

00:51:54.880 And if you, I think, combined it all into one place, in theory, there would be an island

00:51:59.820 that's this big.

00:52:00.800 But that's not what happens.

00:52:02.720 And by the way, we're not the ones responsible for it.

00:52:05.140 Almost all the trash is coming from China.

00:52:07.400 Yeah.

00:52:08.160 Yeah.

00:52:08.400 And it was my search for the picture of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, where I found the Salon article.

00:52:18.480 Salon, which is a big-time left-wing publication, where the guys admitted, hey, you know what?

00:52:25.780 We should really tell people there really isn't a Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

00:52:29.540 We've been lying about that for years, and it's just not there.

00:52:33.880 For years.

00:52:34.920 Wow.

00:52:35.440 These things happen.

00:52:36.360 I was blown away.

00:52:37.120 I really thought there probably was a garbage patch.

00:52:39.780 Yeah.

00:52:40.060 I just assumed there was and was like, well, I mean, you know, I don't know.

00:52:43.840 That seems, it seems bizarre.

00:52:46.020 But I guess maybe the current pulls it, pushes it in the, I don't know.

00:52:49.500 Who knows?

00:52:49.940 I don't know what I thought was actually happening.

00:52:51.540 I never put much thought into it.

00:52:52.880 It was so much reported as such fact.

00:52:55.120 Another one is this idea that global warming, if we don't do anything in 10 years, the society is going to end.

00:53:01.360 Yeah.

00:53:01.580 And this has been everywhere.

00:53:02.560 Every politician on the left has said it.

00:53:04.580 AOC, it's like our favorite thing to say.

00:53:06.500 Biden has said it multiple times.

00:53:08.040 And my argument on that when I first heard it was, look, I've looked in enough climate data over the years.

00:53:12.460 This seems like some outlying, scary scenario that some doctor or some scientist said, but is not the realistic possibility.

00:53:22.260 Is it, you know, is it, you know, and it's not, doesn't mean the world's going to end.

00:53:25.980 It means that we hit a point where it's going to be difficult to return because of this idea of positive feedback.

00:53:33.040 It's a standard thing in global warming theory where each thing that goes wrong feeds back and makes the other things go more wrong.

00:53:42.260 And then that in turn makes the next thing go wrong.

00:53:44.440 It's a feedback loop.

00:53:45.060 It's a feedback loop and there's no reason to believe in all the stuff that I've ever read and what I certainly believe, and many scientists as well, that the climate is a positive feedback system.

00:53:56.980 It seems very clear over thousands of years.

00:54:01.220 It's a negative feedback system.

00:54:03.500 It seems to be able to correct its ice ages with going the other way.

00:54:08.720 It's the reason why humanity has been able to live here for a long time because of that.

00:54:13.120 So that's a whole nother story, but that's what I thought.

00:54:17.100 And that was just me analyzing it and just kind of like looking at the way these things normally play out.

00:54:23.140 However, that was not accurate.

00:54:24.520 My opinion was not accurate.

00:54:26.160 And the reason I know this is from Michael Schellenberger who wrote in his book about this and decided to actually go to the scientist who supposedly was being quoted and asked them,

00:54:38.300 Hey, guys, did you guys say this?

00:54:40.460 It was at the UN's climate division or whatever.

00:54:44.880 What do they call that?

00:54:45.600 The IPCC.

00:54:46.440 IPCC.

00:54:47.120 And he went there.

00:54:48.680 And he talked to the scientist.

00:54:50.460 Talked to the very scientist.

00:54:51.960 And what the scientist said was, oh, thank you.

00:54:56.580 We were so sick of this being reported.

00:54:58.560 No, we didn't say that.

00:54:59.820 That's really what it was.

00:55:01.200 That's what it was.

00:55:01.740 That's how it turned out.

00:55:02.880 Yeah.

00:55:03.100 It's one of the most widely shared pieces of climate hysteria.

00:55:07.340 And the guy who was quoted didn't even say it.

00:55:11.000 That is how crazy this stuff is.

00:55:13.460 It becomes part of the ecosystem in such a weird way.

00:55:17.940 Yep.

00:55:18.380 And from the straws to all of this stuff.

00:55:22.920 To deaths of back alley abortions.

00:55:25.260 Yeah.

00:55:25.660 Back alley abortions is a great one.

00:55:26.760 Look, there probably were.

00:55:29.820 And we know there were, by the way, because some of the abortion activists were.

00:55:33.100 The ones doing it.

00:55:34.120 They were doing the procedures that were killing women.

00:55:36.540 That was not pro-life people being like, I can't wait to do a fake abortion so I can

00:55:40.640 kill people.

00:55:41.300 The year before Roe v. Wade, where they were still doing back alley abortions, because

00:55:47.120 they were illegal.

00:55:49.080 There were 24 deaths.

00:55:51.200 24.

00:55:51.700 Due to illegal abortions.

00:55:54.020 There were.

00:55:54.900 No.

00:55:55.300 There were 24 deaths due to legal abortions.

00:55:59.940 There were 39 deaths due to back alley.

00:56:03.420 Okay.

00:56:03.980 So 39 in a year.

00:56:05.500 The year before Roe v. Wade was passed.

00:56:07.360 Because at that time, about two thirds of states had banned it.

00:56:09.920 Yeah.

00:56:10.200 But there was still a third that had allowed it.

00:56:12.480 Right.

00:56:12.760 Because it was in the situation like it is now.

00:56:14.700 Which, when they keep saying, we're going to go back to pre-Roe times, that's not true.

00:56:18.520 It's going to be.

00:56:19.040 There's going to be more access to abortion now than there was pre-Roe.

00:56:21.700 Because more states will have it open.

00:56:23.220 But, yeah, so you have several dozen.

00:56:27.300 And look, we want to obviously stop all of them.

00:56:30.880 There was, you know, maybe it is, you know, I would think a back alley abortion would be

00:56:35.380 very dangerous.

00:56:36.040 But honestly, at this point.

00:56:37.120 Far from 10,000, though.

00:56:38.120 Very far from 10,000.

00:56:39.460 Yeah.

00:56:40.140 And this is, again, there was a group, we talked about Jane's Revenge, that was threatening

00:56:45.680 to burn down cities and stuff when this verdict came out.

00:56:48.340 Now, that is based on another organization, the Jane part of that comes from an organization

00:56:54.100 that popped up after Roe versus Wade.

00:56:57.700 And they were providing illegal abortions for women.

00:57:02.520 Yeah, it was leading up to that, I think.

00:57:05.020 And the idea was, they would give these abortions out.

00:57:10.340 And those are the people, not just that particular organization, but those types of organizations

00:57:14.860 were the ones doing the illegal abortions.

00:57:16.540 These groups that are praised by the left are the ones doing the illegal abortions that

00:57:20.460 led to the deaths, at least in some of these cases.

00:57:23.220 And that one, I don't know if there's any with that specific organization, but a lot

00:57:26.080 of those organizations existed in places where these things were banned.

00:57:29.660 But beyond all of that, right?

00:57:32.540 They're like, oh my gosh, we're going to go back to this era of back alley abortions.

00:57:36.720 Why?

00:57:38.360 Wait, what time, what year is it?

00:57:41.220 Right?

00:57:41.460 We have a situation where any woman in any state can get an abortion if their life is

00:57:50.420 in danger.

00:57:51.780 Any person in any state is within a two-hour flight of being in a place where they can get

00:57:58.320 an abortion at any time.

00:57:59.940 Okay?

00:58:00.300 And your employer will almost certainly pay for it.

00:58:02.520 And your employer will probably pay for it.

00:58:03.920 If not, an abortion activist organization will pay for it.

00:58:08.540 Because there's a bunch of them that have already popped up.

00:58:10.300 And HHS is talking about paying for it.

00:58:12.220 HHS is talking about it.

00:58:13.720 AOC wants to put these on federal land.

00:58:16.020 I think that's idiotic and won't do abortion tents, but it's possible.

00:58:19.280 At national parks, that'd be great.

00:58:20.540 But we do know that private organizations are doing Winnebago's, and they're pushing

00:58:25.140 them right up to the borders so you can come right across the border and get your abortion.

00:58:28.140 And all of this is almost a pointless conversation for most women because you can order it online

00:58:36.200 from an Indian pharmacy, which will have your abortion pills to you within days.

00:58:41.840 And you can take it in Texas, in Louisiana, in Mississippi, wherever you want to.

00:58:47.520 All of this I consider to be bad.

00:58:50.300 But why would you go to a back alley abortionist when this is the situation where you can get

00:58:55.980 it legally and get it free anywhere or just get it in the mail?

00:59:01.860 Why would we go back to an era of back alley abortions anyway, even if it was only 39 deaths?

00:59:10.240 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:59:12.700 And anyone who thinks about it, I think, gets to that conclusion.

00:59:15.540 But your job as an American right now is not to think, because if you think, then all

00:59:20.540 these things are obvious.

00:59:21.760 If you can do what they want you to do, which is just nod your head and go along with it

00:59:26.160 and post your tweets and memes and TikToks, then you're playing the game the way they want

00:59:31.920 you to play it.

00:59:32.700 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:59:40.320 Hey, it's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:59:42.460 By the way, the Amazon employee letter to the leadership continued.

00:59:50.220 Yeah, I forgot that's where we started that conversation.

00:59:52.420 Yeah, that is where we started.

00:59:53.640 Okay, we'll get back to that.

00:59:54.600 It's not where we ended, but it's where we started.

00:59:56.380 A little ADD going on.

00:59:57.400 Yes, yeah.

00:59:58.280 But I mean, it's insanity because they also need, okay, in addition to Amazon doing all

01:00:04.480 these things and not even doing business in states that don't provide abortion, like

01:00:09.260 they're going to divorce Texas and Utah and Louisiana and all of these places and just

01:00:15.800 not do business in 26 states.

01:00:17.960 Okay.

01:00:18.620 Good luck.

01:00:19.300 They also need space and time to grieve the Supreme Court decision.

01:00:24.260 Yeah, they got to grieve.

01:00:25.540 This I like.

01:00:26.500 You know, I got to say, I don't support them in their decision-making process here, but

01:00:30.440 I do like the fact that they're using it for time off.

01:00:32.420 It's the type of scam I would have pulled in high school, you know?

01:00:37.020 Yeah.

01:00:37.420 You didn't think you'd be able to pull it in the business world, but you can.

01:00:40.820 But I like it.

01:00:41.460 It turns out you can.

01:00:42.520 Yeah.

01:00:42.780 Yeah.

01:00:43.540 They also want a company-wide policy change going forward to ensure Amazon does not aid

01:00:48.260 or abet anti-abortion causes, ideologies, groups, or public figures, including via donation,

01:00:54.680 public sale, public statement, or otherwise.

01:00:57.140 So, anybody who works at Amazon can't even donate to a political entity who supports pro-life

01:01:07.980 causes.

01:01:09.020 Come on.

01:01:09.860 Is that amazing?

01:01:10.840 I mean...

01:01:11.260 It is absolutely amazing.

01:01:12.780 Who do you people think you are?

01:01:15.480 Jeez.

01:01:15.840 We pointed this out yesterday.

01:01:18.460 Other than the wokeness of so many of these organizations, and Amazon is certainly one of them, there is

01:01:24.120 also a financial motivation here.

01:01:25.740 Why?

01:01:26.820 Think about the things you have to do if a woman is pregnant.

01:01:30.080 Look, I support a woman who's working, you know, and taking care of them as an employer.

01:01:35.680 I think that's a great idea.

01:01:36.820 But it's not the easiest thing for a company to deal with.

01:01:39.480 You have an employee who you value, who's leaving for several months, you have to pay

01:01:42.900 their maternity, then you have to hire a temporary worker, potentially, on the other

01:01:46.620 side of that.

01:01:48.040 Add all that stuff in, a couple thousand dollars to pay them to go out of state.

01:01:53.580 Totally worth it for them to get $4,000.

01:01:55.740 They're saving money.

01:01:56.580 To somebody seeking an abortion.

01:01:57.300 They are saving money.

01:01:58.360 And a lot.

01:01:58.420 And I guarantee that is part of the calculation here.

01:02:00.860 It's not just wokeness purely.

01:02:02.800 That is, they are like, well, this is going to be cheaper for us.

01:02:06.100 And so, they're seen as virtuous.

01:02:08.560 That's 80% of it.

01:02:09.540 And they save cash.

01:02:10.240 Maybe 90.

01:02:10.980 Maybe 95.

01:02:11.780 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:02:23.340 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:02:26.980 Check out my show.

01:02:28.520 Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:02:29.580 I will.

01:02:29.960 Immediately preceding this one live.

01:02:31.680 I can't do it now.

01:02:32.440 It's already passed.

01:02:33.640 Well, that's true.

01:02:34.320 But you could listen later on at your leisure.

01:02:37.140 Wait, on demand?

01:02:37.940 Yeah, on demand.

01:02:38.680 Whenever I want it, it will be there?

01:02:40.200 Whenever you want.

01:02:40.440 Whenever it's convenient for you, you can listen then via podcast.

01:02:44.200 That's incredible.

01:02:44.580 Anywhere you get your podcast.

01:02:46.060 Plus, I understand that you also have a show to listen to or watch.

01:02:51.760 I do.

01:02:52.260 Review.

01:02:53.000 You should check it out.

01:02:54.020 It's called Stu Does America.

01:02:56.020 Huh.

01:02:56.420 And every day we do this country.

01:02:59.260 Okay.

01:02:59.780 And it's fun.

01:03:01.500 All right.

01:03:01.720 We've had a lot of fun.

01:03:02.620 It's been a fun show.

01:03:03.740 And I know yours is as well.

01:03:04.940 I think there's a lot on the conservative side that can get boring and, frankly, just

01:03:11.220 don't bore you to tears every day.

01:03:13.820 And so, we try not to do that.

01:03:15.220 Yeah, we do too.

01:03:16.280 We try to make the apocalypse fun.

01:03:18.360 Yeah.

01:03:18.580 So, that's our goal, is to make the apocalypse that is happening right now, make it fun.

01:03:24.020 Make it fun.

01:03:24.720 Yeah.

01:03:25.220 By the way, on this note, we've been talking a lot about January 6th today.

01:03:30.560 And that's the day the left wants you to remember.

01:03:32.440 I would argue.

01:03:33.620 Well, Stu, it's the day democracy almost died.

01:03:36.480 Yeah, I've heard that.

01:03:37.200 Yeah.

01:03:38.540 That's really bad.

01:03:39.960 And they really want you to be talking about January 6th.

01:03:43.100 I'm going to go ahead and argue you should be talking about a different date.

01:03:45.800 We've got the new t-shirt up right now at studiosmerch.com, 6-24-22.

01:03:51.060 The day Roe vs. Wade was overturned.

01:03:52.960 I like that.

01:03:53.560 Go get it.

01:03:54.060 It's a great shirt.

01:03:54.700 I like that a lot.

01:03:55.000 And it's one of those shirts, too.

01:03:56.040 It's a way to show your pro-life and you don't have to have a fetus on your shirt.

01:04:00.960 You know?

01:04:02.540 You don't want to necessarily have like...

01:04:04.160 I don't want to wear a fetus.

01:04:05.940 As pro-life as I am, I'm not wearing a fetus on my shirt.

01:04:09.460 Yeah, I don't want some graphic image of a fetus on my stomach as I'm walking around.

01:04:14.500 I already look bad enough.

01:04:16.480 So this one will help you look good and kind of give you...

01:04:19.700 If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.

01:04:21.840 Yeah.

01:04:22.120 You know?

01:04:22.480 Yeah.

01:04:23.040 All right.

01:04:23.820 Sorry about that.

01:04:24.980 So get it now.

01:04:26.220 Stewdoesmerch.com.

01:04:26.980 It's the 6-24-22 shirt.

01:04:29.360 They also have the mugs and the stickers and hats and all that stuff.

01:04:33.440 And they're all sans fetus?

01:04:35.560 No fetuses.

01:04:36.380 No fetus.

01:04:37.100 I mean, maybe we should do a separate shirt that's just fetuses.

01:04:40.340 Like, it's just constant fetuses on every part of the shirt.

01:04:44.180 I don't know.

01:04:44.960 Maybe that would sell even better.

01:04:46.540 You should try it.

01:04:46.700 But I hope you do.

01:04:47.600 I like it because, you know, look, I want to make clear what I believe.

01:04:52.540 But I also...

01:04:53.680 I like the fact that people who know, who are on our side are going to know that date.

01:04:58.800 And I want them to know that date.

01:05:00.820 The left is going to be saying, January 6th.

01:05:02.620 I want to be talking about that date.

01:05:04.120 That's the most important date we've seen in the last couple of years, I think.

01:05:07.320 Oh, yeah.

01:05:08.080 One of the most important dates in our lifetime, I'd say.

01:05:10.160 There's already the first number I heard was they think, even with all of the craziness

01:05:15.540 going on with states opening up, abortion access, and, you know, you could still...

01:05:18.680 They still think it could prevent 100,000 abortions a year.

01:05:21.960 It's a good start.

01:05:22.700 It's a great freaking start.

01:05:23.940 There's 600,000 now.

01:05:25.780 And if it's only 100,000, what an incredible day.

01:05:29.040 I mean, what an incredible...

01:05:30.900 If it's only 100,000, what an improvement.

01:05:33.200 It's still way too many people are going to be aborted.

01:05:36.480 But, you know what, making even that amount of progress shows that we still have a long

01:05:41.660 road to go, but also indicates how important this day was.

01:05:44.960 And when, really, when is enough enough?

01:05:47.480 The number in the United States alone is over 63, somewhere between 63 and 65 million babies

01:05:53.740 that we've lost since 1973.

01:05:55.720 Isn't that enough?

01:05:56.480 I would say it is.

01:05:57.780 It's one and a half billion worldwide.

01:06:01.200 That number kills me.

01:06:03.180 One and a half billion!

01:06:04.460 63 million here is really, really bad.

01:06:07.340 And it always hits you in a rough way.

01:06:09.780 But, man, when you think about globally, over a billion, a billion...

01:06:13.600 And it's between 50 and 75 million every year.

01:06:16.580 That's...

01:06:16.860 50 and 75 million a year.

01:06:19.580 Soul-crushing.

01:06:20.100 And many of the areas of the globe are going the opposite direction.

01:06:23.480 We're becoming more liberalized in these rules.

01:06:26.120 So...

01:06:26.280 Dang.

01:06:26.920 Hopefully that switches.

01:06:28.260 And at least it's kind of switched here, part of the country anyway.

01:06:31.320 So, check that out.

01:06:32.860 By the way, speaking of the Supreme Court, there were two...

01:06:35.560 This is a surprise to me, I will say.

01:06:36.880 I thought there was three or four decisions left.

01:06:39.380 There are four.

01:06:39.900 There were four.

01:06:40.760 Yeah.

01:06:41.760 And I expected we would get four because this is the last day they had announced.

01:06:47.500 And also, they had been doing about five per day for most of this as they were releasing

01:06:53.320 these.

01:06:53.860 Well, today they came out.

01:06:54.760 They gave the two boring ones.

01:06:57.000 No offense to you if you're involved in these cases.

01:06:59.100 But we got the two boring ones and didn't get the two big ones.

01:07:02.100 The two big ones we did not get is the EPA ruling, which I think is the biggest one as

01:07:05.700 far as it affects your everyday life and how your government operates.

01:07:08.840 It's a huge, huge case.

01:07:10.500 And then the other one is the Remain in Mexico part of the Trump...

01:07:15.120 The immigration situation.

01:07:16.180 The Trump directive.

01:07:17.420 Yeah.

01:07:17.600 So, neither of those came out today.

01:07:19.660 They did announce that they're going to come out tomorrow.

01:07:22.700 So, that's your last decision day of the session.

01:07:26.460 Tomorrow, you will get those decisions alive on this program, at least during this time

01:07:33.020 slot.

01:07:33.560 And the two that came out was a Native American issue about who can prosecute in a Native

01:07:39.540 American area and a Veterans Affairs issue.

01:07:42.180 Both of them, you know, important in their own way, but not necessarily top of the mind.

01:07:48.100 So, we're not going to spend too much time on that today.

01:07:50.380 How did it turn out, though, on the Native American thing?

01:07:53.220 I mean...

01:07:54.260 Who won?

01:07:55.080 It was a 5-4 decision.

01:07:57.700 I'd have to go back and look at it in more depth.

01:08:00.660 I kind of...

01:08:01.500 Usually, when we go through this, we start with a zillion cases.

01:08:05.020 And at the beginning of the session, I have to go through all of them and kind of understand

01:08:08.000 basic knowledge about all of them.

01:08:09.380 And they keep getting knocked off as you go through this release period.

01:08:13.240 And as they get towards the end, the ones that I never really locked in on and cared

01:08:16.760 about all that much, I can't remember all the details on it.

01:08:19.700 The Native American one is kind of interesting because it involves sovereignty.

01:08:25.200 And whether or not they're subject to the United States or are they subject just to the

01:08:29.700 Indian Reservation?

01:08:30.660 Yeah.

01:08:30.900 The concept being someone who is not a Native American going onto Native American lands,

01:08:35.820 committing a crime against a Native American.

01:08:38.400 Yeah.

01:08:38.500 Can the state government jump in and say they're the ones that are prosecuted?

01:08:42.780 I believe what the ruling was was no.

01:08:45.580 Like, only the federal government can step in and prosecute someone in that sense.

01:08:50.320 Okay.

01:08:50.540 So, the state can't.

01:08:51.480 The state can't.

01:08:52.320 I think that's what...

01:08:52.940 But again, like, I don't know.

01:08:54.440 Now, look.

01:08:55.220 Do I have it on my calendar to commit a crime against a Native American on a Native American

01:08:59.660 reservation?

01:09:00.040 Well, of course you do.

01:09:00.440 Of course you do.

01:09:01.040 I do.

01:09:01.520 Yeah.

01:09:01.820 But that's not for six months.

01:09:02.980 So, I have not really put much thought into how that will turn out.

01:09:05.740 Okay.

01:09:05.980 So, I was thinking...

01:09:07.440 Is that just because you won't be driving through a Native American reservation for another

01:09:12.360 six months?

01:09:12.880 Well, there's a lot of planning that goes into a major crime like the one I'm planning.

01:09:15.860 Okay.

01:09:16.220 I can't give you all the details on that crime plot right now.

01:09:20.040 It's understandable.

01:09:20.940 Because number one, I haven't worked them all out.

01:09:22.420 Yeah.

01:09:22.520 And number two, I don't want to necessarily tip my hand here.

01:09:24.720 Right.

01:09:24.860 But, you know, if you are on a Native American reservation right now, I'd watch it.

01:09:30.000 That's what I'll say.

01:09:31.220 That's what I'll say to you.

01:09:31.800 If you see me coming...

01:09:32.720 Can you tell us which reservation?

01:09:34.960 I cannot, Pat.

01:09:35.780 No.

01:09:36.040 Okay.

01:09:36.480 All right.

01:09:36.840 I mean, I know...

01:09:37.420 Can you give us a state like New Mexico or Texas?

01:09:41.280 I don't think there's any reason...

01:09:42.440 I don't see how that benefits me.

01:09:43.800 All right.

01:09:44.060 I'm just saying, if you see me...

01:09:45.360 Like, if you're a fan of the show, you're Native American, and you see me coming, I'd run.

01:09:49.200 Now, you know.

01:09:50.180 Your friends might not know.

01:09:51.460 All right.

01:09:51.720 They don't listen to this show.

01:09:52.540 They're not going to know that I'm there to commit a crime.

01:09:54.720 Yeah.

01:09:55.380 You know?

01:09:55.800 But I do need to look into the details of this ruling before I really go through with

01:09:59.100 a plan, because it may wind up burning me.

01:10:01.620 I don't want that to happen, of course.

01:10:03.420 Yeah.

01:10:03.820 You should at least know where they came down on it.

01:10:06.900 And here's the thing.

01:10:07.780 Most crimes that happen on Native American reservations happen to the Cherokee Nation.

01:10:12.600 Well, the Cherokee tribe, where they're so proud to live and so proud to die.

01:10:19.520 You know, the thing was, they took the whole Indian nation, and they put them on this reservation.

01:10:28.080 They took away their way of life.

01:10:31.180 I mean, the tomahawk, the bow and knife.

01:10:35.420 Took away their native tongue, and they taught their stinking English to our young.

01:10:40.680 To your young?

01:10:42.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.460 To my young.

01:10:43.400 Why would they teach it to your...

01:10:44.760 Well, you taught English to your young.

01:10:46.020 I don't know.

01:10:46.040 Pissed me off, though.

01:10:46.520 I'll tell you that.

01:10:47.160 Okay.

01:10:47.400 No, I taught them Cherokee.

01:10:49.740 Oh, you did?

01:10:50.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:51.180 But now they know English, because, well, that's what I've been explaining to you the

01:10:57.460 whole time here.

01:10:57.860 Yeah, that's true.

01:10:58.000 You did mention it.

01:10:59.100 And then the beads we used to make by hand, well, nowadays, they're made in Japan, or Taiwan,

01:11:06.380 or China.

01:11:07.160 Even more nowadays.

01:11:08.020 Yeah, even more nowadays.

01:11:08.780 Bangladesh.

01:11:09.640 But Japan rhymes.

01:11:11.080 Yeah.

01:11:11.740 It does.

01:11:12.140 So you're not going to say Bangladesh.

01:11:13.260 All the beads we made by hand are nowadays made in China.

01:11:17.720 That doesn't really work, does it?

01:11:18.940 No, it does not.

01:11:19.480 It doesn't really work.

01:11:20.280 It does not work at all.

01:11:21.000 So...

01:11:21.240 But luckily, we've solved that.

01:11:22.520 Yeah.

01:11:22.860 The Cherokee Nation and the Cherokee tribe should be all set after this.

01:11:28.520 Unless I...

01:11:29.280 Until I show up with my big crime plot.

01:11:32.840 But now you've warned them, so now they're on their guard.

01:11:35.300 Look, it's on them now.

01:11:36.660 Yeah, right.

01:11:37.060 You know, at one point, if it was a surprise that I'd just pull in, and I was like, hey,

01:11:42.220 here's my big crime plot, and I'm going to unleash it on you, that might be unfair to

01:11:47.220 the Native Americans.

01:11:48.160 However, now I've announced it.

01:11:51.200 Right.

01:11:51.580 So they know if you see Stu waddling down the street...

01:11:55.760 Yeah.

01:11:56.360 Or coming in in your brand new car, which is on order now, right?

01:12:01.480 Aren't you getting a car?

01:12:03.140 Yes, this is a big development.

01:12:04.480 Okay.

01:12:05.080 And this will help them watch for you, by the way.

01:12:07.800 Yes.

01:12:08.280 Because Stu's getting a new car.

01:12:09.400 Yes.

01:12:10.000 I don't know if you're going to share what kind of car it is, but he's getting a new one.

01:12:13.860 I feel like the same way, I don't want to share the details of the crime plot.

01:12:17.800 I don't necessarily...

01:12:18.640 Because then they'd know I was pulling up.

01:12:20.460 That's right.

01:12:21.220 But...

01:12:21.680 So I ordered a car in Joe Biden's economy.

01:12:24.720 Mm-hmm.

01:12:25.120 And this has been an interesting experience, Pat.

01:12:27.700 And bam!

01:12:27.720 You got it right away?

01:12:28.380 No.

01:12:29.060 No?

01:12:29.520 No.

01:12:29.880 Well, there's no cars, you know, on the lot.

01:12:33.100 That's how I used to...

01:12:34.160 I don't understand how you purchase cars.

01:12:35.300 Yeah.

01:12:35.480 Like, you'd go to a dealership...

01:12:37.020 Yeah.

01:12:37.480 ...and they would say, here are the cars we have.

01:12:39.060 Would you like to choose one of them?

01:12:40.000 Or you could special order one, and it'll be here in six or eight weeks.

01:12:42.580 Mm-hmm.

01:12:42.760 That's kind of the way it would typically go.

01:12:45.420 Mm-hmm.

01:12:45.600 That's not how it goes now.

01:12:46.820 No, it really isn't.

01:12:47.940 So I put...

01:12:49.100 I kind of agonized over what I was going to do.

01:12:51.800 They didn't have any cars on the lot that I wanted or the type that I wanted.

01:12:56.540 So I did have to put in a special order, and the special order normally would take six

01:13:00.700 to eight weeks.

01:13:01.420 That's, you know, that was the timeline.

01:13:05.180 When I put in the order, they said, look, supply chain stuff, we've got a lot of issues

01:13:10.520 going on.

01:13:11.300 Mm-hmm.

01:13:11.580 And I understood that, you know, I did understand that.

01:13:15.380 It's now been 10 months.

01:13:18.340 A 10 months.

01:13:19.620 I mean, it's the better part of a year now.

01:13:21.300 Yeah.

01:13:21.860 I put it in...

01:13:22.380 And it was supposed to be six to eight weeks.

01:13:23.960 August 20th, I put this order in.

01:13:25.780 Why?

01:13:25.920 Because I had the email where I was...

01:13:27.060 I confirmed it.

01:13:27.820 I had gone back and forth with them a few times before this, but when I really locked down

01:13:30.720 the order, it was August 20th, 2021.

01:13:34.000 It is now June 29th, 2022.

01:13:37.280 Jeez.

01:13:37.640 And just a few weeks ago, Pat, I got a, or I guess it was, I mean, a little over a month

01:13:44.700 ago now, where I got a Target Production Week, where they decided they were going to actually

01:13:50.160 theoretically build this car.

01:13:53.180 Wow.

01:13:53.660 So the Target Production Week comes.

01:13:55.120 Okay.

01:13:55.800 They say the Target Production Week is going on.

01:13:58.380 All right.

01:13:58.680 Just the other day, I get a text that says, quote, your car has been built.

01:14:02.980 Huh.

01:14:03.480 And I was like, wow.

01:14:04.540 Wow.

01:14:04.620 That's incredible.

01:14:05.440 It's been built.

01:14:06.120 Huh.

01:14:06.320 Can I come pick it up?

01:14:07.020 We don't have a delivery date for it yet, but the car has been built.

01:14:12.540 I've got a VIN number and everything.

01:14:14.240 In theory, this car exists somewhere.

01:14:16.220 I think in Lansing, Michigan, or somewhere up there.

01:14:19.020 I don't know.

01:14:19.620 The third worldification of this country is unreal.

01:14:23.420 It's unbelievable.

01:14:24.820 My daughter, I think I mentioned this before, was here for a month visiting.

01:14:29.520 And so we were going to get her car because her old one sort of blew up, fell apart.

01:14:36.100 It was no good.

01:14:36.900 So we went to a dealership, and it was a Honda dealership, actually.

01:14:41.700 And we said, so we'd like a Honda, like maybe a Civic?

01:14:45.580 Yeah, we don't have any Civics.

01:14:47.500 Wait, Honda doesn't have any Civics?

01:14:49.380 Doesn't have any Civics.

01:14:49.900 No.

01:14:50.300 They've had them since like 1983.

01:14:52.280 Exactly.

01:14:53.100 Yeah.

01:14:53.360 Yeah.

01:14:53.540 But not now.

01:14:54.200 Not now.

01:14:54.500 Well, what about an Accord then?

01:14:56.000 What about, no, we don't have any Accords.

01:15:00.180 CRVs?

01:15:00.640 Is that a thing here?

01:15:01.780 No.

01:15:02.360 No, we don't have any cars.

01:15:04.180 Well, we do have SUVs.

01:15:06.120 We have 20 SUVs.

01:15:08.260 You can pick from among them.

01:15:09.940 I don't want an SUV for my daughter.

01:15:12.340 So we're out of luck.

01:15:15.500 So we go to a Nissan dealer.

01:15:17.300 Same deal.

01:15:18.260 She goes back to Utah, and we're on the phone with the dealerships there.

01:15:23.140 And they have no cars.

01:15:24.500 Nor can they get any in the next six months.

01:15:28.420 Six months.

01:15:28.720 It's like, okay, do you have a used car?

01:15:31.820 No, but we could get you one by September.

01:15:34.160 And we're going to charge you more than a new car.

01:15:36.360 Right.

01:15:37.120 More than a new car.

01:15:38.140 It's unbelievable what is going on here.

01:15:41.360 That's one of the options I've had over the past 10 months, Pat, with the car that I ordered,

01:15:44.120 which is get one that's used.

01:15:46.440 Well, those cars are $30,000 and $40,000 more than the actual cost of the car.

01:15:52.480 It's crazy.

01:15:52.940 Which, I mean, yeah, I guess you could pay for that premium, but I don't really want to.

01:15:57.480 No, me neither.

01:15:58.780 So, nor do I.

01:16:00.140 I don't have any interest, actually, at all in paying that much for a car.

01:16:03.160 So it's like, especially with a car that I know the dealership supposedly is selling for much,

01:16:09.200 much less.

01:16:09.680 And it is, it's really incredible when you think about, go back to the standard cliche of car dealerships.

01:16:23.200 Right.

01:16:23.740 Now, this is not always fair, but sometimes, you know, we'd go back to the 80s and 90s.

01:16:27.860 There'd be those movies, you know, where they'd be, the car dealers would have their car salesman

01:16:32.680 out there harassing you to get you into anything.

01:16:35.660 How do I, how do I get you into a car today?

01:16:37.340 Let me go back to my manager.

01:16:38.580 I'm going to get, I'm going to get you a real deal on this.

01:16:40.260 And they would, they would give misleading ads and all these stereotypes that, you know,

01:16:44.580 aren't always true, but have been around for decades.

01:16:48.120 It's the exact opposite.

01:16:49.780 It's been, there are times where I'd reach out to the dealers and I started calling other

01:16:54.020 dealers around the country to try to figure out how I could do this faster.

01:16:57.040 They would just, they would just, they barely even respond to you.

01:17:00.360 Like, nah, we don't have anything.

01:17:02.080 Like, they don't even care because they don't, well, they can't get any cars.

01:17:05.940 And weren't they getting a little pissed that you kept calling them?

01:17:07.980 They got a little, there was a time where they were just annoyed with me personally,

01:17:11.320 which is understandable, frankly.

01:17:14.520 More Pat and Stu for Glenn coming up.

01:17:21.640 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:17:24.880 We got to tell you coming up here in a few minutes, I don't think we have time right now,

01:17:28.740 but coming up after the top of the hour, we got to tell you about a special skateboarding

01:17:34.280 competition that occurred where a biological man who was 29 years old beat out a 13-year-old

01:17:42.200 girl for the first place trophy and prize money.

01:17:47.060 They used to make jokey movies about this scenario.

01:17:49.980 Yeah.

01:17:50.300 Right?

01:17:50.800 Yeah.

01:17:51.000 Wasn't there a movie where they, I think it was Johnny Knoxville faked that he was mentally

01:17:55.280 challenged to win the Special Olympics?

01:17:57.040 Yes.

01:17:57.420 That's essentially what's actually happening.

01:17:59.860 Yeah.

01:18:00.300 In our society right now, people are, it is again, you know, I mean, I know people wouldn't

01:18:04.940 like that summary, but that's bizarre that that's almost reality at this point.

01:18:10.580 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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01:19:09.700 Uh, we're going to tell you about this, uh, transit situation in a skateboarding competition

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01:19:19.200 Uh, plus there's also an interesting situation with Google and the ARs.

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01:19:26.000 Because I know Glenn's fascinated with AI.

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01:19:38.240 Yeah.

01:19:38.860 Uh, he says it could also escape and do bad things.

01:19:44.840 The AI could escape and do bad things.

01:19:48.120 Let's get to that as well.

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01:21:14.240 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:21:16.100 All right.

01:21:17.480 Uh, the trans person, the trans people.

01:21:23.500 Uh, there has to be, I think there needs to be a separate competition set up for the

01:21:30.800 trans people.

01:21:32.160 So you'd have a male competition, female competition and a trans competition.

01:21:36.220 Yes.

01:21:36.820 Wow.

01:21:37.320 Especially now since it's about, I don't know, 83% of our population.

01:21:41.200 It seems.

01:21:42.060 Most people are trans.

01:21:43.360 Yeah.

01:21:43.700 Almost everybody's trans now.

01:21:45.020 So, uh, and virtually everyone fits into the LGBTQQIA2 plus category.

01:21:52.980 As long as you include the plus, everyone does.

01:21:55.720 It's true, isn't it?

01:21:57.000 That's because that's everybody else.

01:21:59.040 And it is interesting.

01:22:00.040 I want to make sure we're very clear here.

01:22:02.160 There is absolutely no social contagion involved here.

01:22:05.320 It is not a situation where just all of a sudden it's become trendy to be trans.

01:22:11.540 No, because it naturally happens where you go from 0.7% of the population to 20% of the

01:22:18.420 population.

01:22:19.200 That's just a natural occurrence.

01:22:20.620 Just a natural occurrence.

01:22:21.460 Yeah.

01:22:21.520 Like there was a, um, a teacher who was talking about their students and they said, oddly, uh,

01:22:28.180 a bunch of sixth graders decided they were going to be, they were, well, they realized

01:22:34.340 that the entire time, the entire time from birth, they had been gay all at the same time.

01:22:40.120 And wasn't that 80% of the class?

01:22:41.800 It was a huge portion of the class.

01:22:43.080 I don't know if it was quite 80%.

01:22:44.280 Maybe it was 90.

01:22:45.740 It might've been 90%.

01:22:46.600 And then also at the same time, they all realized they were trans.

01:22:52.280 Holy cow.

01:22:53.240 Wow.

01:22:53.780 A little bit later.

01:22:54.480 So does that change their sexual, sexual proclivity then?

01:22:58.800 Because if you were a boy who likes boys, but now you're transitioned into a female and

01:23:05.680 you like boys, uh, well then are you gay or not?

01:23:08.540 Are you straight now?

01:23:09.400 These are deep questions.

01:23:10.220 Right.

01:23:10.640 It's deep.

01:23:11.220 And I can't figure it out.

01:23:12.420 All I know is that none of it changed.

01:23:14.300 Oh, okay.

01:23:14.760 When we say trans, it indicates transitioning, which indicates change, but that's not change.

01:23:20.820 It's just how you were actually born.

01:23:22.820 You were born that way, except for the part, the part of the, you know, the surgeries and

01:23:27.760 such to correct the mistake that was made upon your birth.

01:23:32.560 But beyond that, I did, I left out the last part of that story, which is all of the sixth

01:23:36.960 graders, and they were girls, by the way, uh, born as girls.

01:23:39.940 Okay.

01:23:40.580 Not actually girls because they turned to trans.

01:23:42.200 So they were actually boys, but they were actually girls when they were born.

01:23:45.920 And so they were born as girls.

01:23:47.320 Then they all turned gay at the same time.

01:23:49.460 All of them were gay?

01:23:50.280 It was, they all turned gay at the same time.

01:23:52.540 Yeah.

01:23:52.800 They were all friends, by the way.

01:23:54.100 Did I leave this out?

01:23:55.060 They were all friends.

01:23:56.200 Yeah.

01:23:56.900 And they got to sixth grade.

01:23:57.820 They all turned gay at the same time.

01:23:59.020 Then a few months later, they all turned trans at the same time.

01:24:01.080 And a few months after that, they all turned, uh, non-binary at the same time.

01:24:04.400 Oh, that's interesting.

01:24:05.080 Which is just a total, total coincidence.

01:24:09.700 Just natural occurrence.

01:24:11.720 Now, we know from the beginning, they were just non-binary.

01:24:15.720 Apparently, they weren't gay because they transitioned to trans and then they transitioned

01:24:20.180 to non-binary.

01:24:21.200 But whatever they were, whatever they are saying they are right now is what they were

01:24:25.820 at birth.

01:24:26.260 That we know.

01:24:27.320 Yes.

01:24:27.760 It was just...

01:24:28.600 That can't be debated or you're a bigot.

01:24:30.580 Or you're a bigot.

01:24:31.300 Thank you.

01:24:31.560 Try to debate that.

01:24:32.880 Bigot.

01:24:33.320 Bigot.

01:24:33.520 Bigot.

01:24:34.140 Thank you.

01:24:34.500 Thank you, Pat, for outlining that.

01:24:36.020 You're welcome.

01:24:36.500 This is an interesting thing because we were told by well-known philosopher Lady Gaga

01:24:43.380 that people were born this way, right?

01:24:48.700 Yeah.

01:24:49.300 Yeah.

01:24:49.480 So, if you're gay, you were born gay.

01:24:52.200 You've always been gay, despite the fact that you may have had a relationship with someone

01:24:55.680 of the opposite sex.

01:24:56.580 That doesn't matter.

01:24:57.260 You were born gay.

01:24:58.520 Yes.

01:24:59.160 And we all said, oh, okay, I was born gay.

01:25:01.080 I mean, I didn't believe it until Lady Gaga Gaga came to the table and laid it out for

01:25:07.000 us in that way.

01:25:07.900 And so, now we know you're born that way, except now you're not born that way because...

01:25:14.300 Well, if you have to transition, that implies that you're changing something.

01:25:18.020 Right.

01:25:18.280 Like, if you have to have surgery and change your parts around, you guess you weren't

01:25:21.580 really born that way now.

01:25:22.680 Right.

01:25:22.920 So, now we have to realize that you were born that way, unless you were not born that

01:25:26.800 way.

01:25:28.440 That's all you have to understand.

01:25:30.120 That's exactly where we are.

01:25:31.600 It's incredible.

01:25:32.580 It's incredible.

01:25:33.340 And somebody who was not born that way, but became that way through a natural process,

01:25:38.980 a 29-year-old named Ricci Tres, also known as Ricci and Tres, just...

01:25:49.920 Maybe the middle name is just and.

01:25:52.880 Yes.

01:25:53.540 I love it.

01:25:53.760 What if they're like, what's the middle name?

01:25:55.300 Well, it's got Ricci and they're thinking, and then the hospital's like, oh, I guess the

01:26:01.280 middle name is and.

01:26:02.120 Right.

01:26:02.820 Yep.

01:26:03.820 Anyway, 29-year-old Ricci, who is a biological man, just won the women's division of the

01:26:12.240 Skateboard Open the other day in New York City, taking home the $500 prize for the first

01:26:18.480 place win.

01:26:19.180 Congratulations.

01:26:19.860 And bravely, courageously, he beat out a 13-year-old girl to do it.

01:26:23.660 I think that is...

01:26:24.680 When you talk about the courage and the wherewithal to do what he did, or I mean, she did, they

01:26:32.900 did.

01:26:33.080 Thank you.

01:26:33.640 Do what they did.

01:26:35.200 You can't help but just applaud.

01:26:36.420 Be careful.

01:26:37.060 Be careful, Pat.

01:26:38.240 I'll clap for you this time, but I'm a little nervous about it.

01:26:40.700 I'm a little nervous about it.

01:26:41.940 Thank you for giving me some leeway there.

01:26:43.200 So, because this really used to be the plot of 80s comedies, right?

01:26:48.920 Yes.

01:26:49.200 Where the guy would become a girl.

01:26:51.420 Like, there was that big thing, there was some...

01:26:54.240 The woman...

01:26:54.940 The Tom Hanks thing.

01:26:56.760 Buzz and Buddies.

01:26:57.340 Yeah, Buzz and Buddies.

01:26:58.640 Buddies.

01:26:58.960 That was, they wanted to get, they wanted to live in a apartment building that was women

01:27:02.520 only, so they dressed up as women.

01:27:04.060 Because they were attracted to the hot women in the building.

01:27:06.900 That's right.

01:27:07.640 Yeah.

01:27:07.800 Which is a fascinating, I don't know how that would work out.

01:27:11.100 It just seems like a bad plot.

01:27:12.320 It's so sexist and wrong now, yeah.

01:27:13.200 Then there was a movie, Just One of the Guys, anyone remember that?

01:27:16.500 Where it was a woman, and remember, back in the day, this is something that's going

01:27:21.660 to be difficult to explain to the audience, but let me attempt it here, Pat.

01:27:24.480 There were these things called women.

01:27:26.660 Oh.

01:27:27.480 How did you know, though, that they were, in fact?

01:27:30.140 Well, we didn't know.

01:27:30.160 We now know that we didn't know.

01:27:32.140 But there used to be a time where the pitch from Hollywood was, we're treating women

01:27:37.940 really badly.

01:27:38.840 It's unfair to women.

01:27:39.760 It was called feminism.

01:27:41.160 And it was at this point where something called women existed.

01:27:44.640 Okay.

01:27:45.060 Okay.

01:27:45.520 Now we know that's not even a thing.

01:27:47.260 But back in that time, we believed women were a thing.

01:27:51.780 And so the plot of this movie was, this woman, this teenage girl, was upset because she didn't

01:27:59.260 get the fair treatment that guys got.

01:28:01.140 She would always be treated as a woman and dismissed, so she decided, what if I cut my

01:28:06.640 hair short?

01:28:07.900 Well, then no one will know.

01:28:09.000 Then no one will know, right?

01:28:10.300 Yeah.

01:28:10.760 It's like when Clark Kent puts the glasses on.

01:28:13.920 Exactly.

01:28:14.720 Nobody knows.

01:28:15.820 You can't recognize him as Superman.

01:28:17.600 It's not Superman.

01:28:18.520 Superman has a cape and does no glasses.

01:28:21.120 Right.

01:28:21.680 So that's what she did.

01:28:22.600 She went to another school and put on sort of boy clothing, cut her hair short, and then

01:28:29.220 went over to achieve all the things that the hateful patriarchal society would not allow

01:28:34.900 her to do as a woman.

01:28:36.100 Okay.

01:28:37.200 Then there was, as I mentioned, the Johnny Knoxville movie, which somehow was made.

01:28:44.160 It's hard to believe now.

01:28:45.200 It's hard to believe it was made.

01:28:46.800 Wow.

01:28:47.060 So, where he decided to present himself as someone with mental issues, disabilities of

01:28:56.980 some sort, or physical disabilities.

01:28:59.060 I can't remember which one it was.

01:28:59.860 I think it was mental disabilities.

01:29:01.700 And I don't know that I actually saw the movie, but I believe the plot was-

01:29:04.980 I did not.

01:29:05.440 Went in to win the Special Olympics.

01:29:07.820 Like, posed as a mentally challenged person to win the Special Olympics.

01:29:12.980 There was also White Chicks, a movie in which-

01:29:16.640 It's called The Ringer.

01:29:17.960 The Ringer.

01:29:18.460 That was the Johnny Knoxville movie?

01:29:19.620 Yeah.

01:29:19.800 Okay, yeah.

01:29:20.240 And it was 2005.

01:29:22.460 So we're only talking-

01:29:23.640 Yeah, that one's pretty recent.

01:29:24.380 17 years ago.

01:29:25.500 Now, Johnny Knoxville is a guy who pushes the envelope.

01:29:28.360 So even at that time, I remember thinking, wow, I'm surprised this one's clear.

01:29:33.700 But now you'd be put in prison.

01:29:35.200 You'd be put in prison immediately.

01:29:35.860 You don't even get a trial.

01:29:36.940 You go directly to prison.

01:29:38.540 Yes, you go right to the North Korean death camp.

01:29:41.480 There was also White Chicks, where black people posed as white people.

01:29:46.120 Oh, boy.

01:29:46.560 White women.

01:29:47.260 In white face?

01:29:48.440 White face.

01:29:49.260 Yeah.

01:29:49.640 And there was also-

01:29:50.680 But that's okay, because it's against whitey.

01:29:52.280 Yeah, that, sure.

01:29:53.780 Yeah.

01:29:54.240 If you steal Casper's culture, that's not a problem.

01:29:57.620 Right.

01:29:58.000 You just can't appropriate anybody else's.

01:29:59.860 However, there was the reverse of that movie also made in the 80s,

01:30:03.840 where a white guy put on black face and was put in.

01:30:08.160 Now, look.

01:30:08.940 Unreal.

01:30:09.460 That doesn't mean that every cultural thing we had from the past is a good idea,

01:30:13.060 to be clear.

01:30:13.980 No.

01:30:14.300 But it is interesting how it was so obvious to everyone

01:30:17.780 that you could not just turn with a snap of your fingers from a guy to a girl

01:30:22.160 that it was like something everybody laughed about.

01:30:24.080 It was on Saturday Night Live.

01:30:25.340 There were all sorts of sketches about it.

01:30:27.860 It was our-

01:30:28.340 Everyone understood that that was not possible.

01:30:30.760 And now we're at the position where the thing you can't see in a person,

01:30:37.540 their sexual preference, or now called orientation-

01:30:41.340 How dare you call it preference?

01:30:43.740 I didn't.

01:30:44.180 I just said that's what it used to be called.

01:30:46.000 Okay.

01:30:46.340 Okay.

01:30:46.920 People used to refer to it as sexual preference,

01:30:48.920 which now is hate speech, by the way.

01:30:50.820 Yeah, absolutely.

01:30:51.260 Um, that thing that you can't see, obviously, you see a baby, you look at them,

01:30:56.060 you can't tell what their sexual preference is.

01:30:58.180 They have none.

01:30:58.980 They have no sexual preference when they're born, right?

01:31:00.980 And there's no-

01:31:02.040 But the idea that you're born that way, in other words, you grow up and you are gay,

01:31:07.000 that's the way you were born, and we can tell that we know that it's wrong to say the opposite, right?

01:31:12.580 On the other hand, the thing that you can see, right,

01:31:16.260 you can see that they're a boy or a girl very clearly when they are born.

01:31:21.680 Mm-hmm.

01:31:22.860 And that, we're supposed to say the actual thing is the opposite of the way you were born.

01:31:27.980 So-

01:31:28.540 Okay.

01:31:29.280 Right.

01:31:29.300 When you can see-

01:31:30.620 It's all making sense.

01:31:31.460 Evidence.

01:31:32.560 Mm-hmm.

01:31:33.480 You absolutely were not born that way.

01:31:35.540 All right.

01:31:35.600 You were born a different way.

01:31:36.840 Yes.

01:31:37.260 When you can't see evidence, you were born that way.

01:31:41.080 None of this makes sense, Pat.

01:31:42.480 It's as if this entire movement is specifically designed to upend every foundation of our society.

01:31:52.160 And by the way, it is.

01:31:54.160 By the way, it is.

01:31:56.100 You know, it just, we can sit here and talk about this story that you're mentioning here with the skateboarder.

01:32:04.420 And like, I think the sports tie to this is interesting because it hits people in the face so obviously, right?

01:32:10.440 The problem with the sports thing is like you're taking an adult man and having him beat up on a tiny 13-year-old girl skateboarder and everyone's acting like it's fair and reasonable.

01:32:23.360 And we all know it's not.

01:32:24.160 And it's so not.

01:32:25.240 And it's so obvious.

01:32:26.180 And we feel for a little 13-year-old girl who's doing everything she can to try to win and is beaten by an adult man.

01:32:31.420 I mean, it's so freaking ridiculous that it hits everybody in the face.

01:32:34.880 But the sports outcomes are not the most important part of the story.

01:32:38.680 The fact that she lost her trophy and lost $250 in prize money is really tragic, but not the real story.

01:32:47.600 The real story is we've lost connection to reality.

01:32:50.580 We have lost connection to reality in the United States of America and around the world.

01:32:55.620 And not only that, but then we have to ignore the fact or sweep under the rug the fact that we have lost all connection to reality.

01:33:05.100 We can't even talk about the connection to reality.

01:33:07.920 Yeah.

01:33:08.420 Or you're a hater and a bigot.

01:33:10.480 Well, I'm sorry.

01:33:11.680 A 29-year-old biological man shouldn't be competing against 13-year-old girls.

01:33:19.320 Come on.

01:33:20.260 And if you say that again, you're torn apart for it.

01:33:28.440 If you went on Twitter right now and tweeted about this, you'd have the Twitter mob all over you for the rest of all time.

01:33:35.640 Now, you have solved this problem in an incredible way.

01:33:38.480 By ignoring Twitter completely.

01:33:39.920 Ignoring Twitter.

01:33:40.360 And by the way, we should all learn from Pat Gray.

01:33:42.560 We should all learn from Pat Gray.

01:33:43.800 There's a lot of people out there going, yeah, I do that all the time.

01:33:46.300 And that's the smart thing to do, right?

01:33:47.900 Like, only about 20% of people are even on Twitter, and a very small percentage of those people actually tweet about this stuff, right?

01:33:56.680 Like, it's just not – it is totally blown out of proportion the effect that these social media companies have on our discourse in this country.

01:34:03.340 Totally blown out of proportion.

01:34:04.420 Really, honestly, the best, safest thing to do is completely ignore it.

01:34:08.040 But it is a real – it's a real thing.

01:34:10.500 Because it's not just Twitter and getting the Twitter mob after you.

01:34:13.920 It's losing your, you know, real job.

01:34:17.800 It is losing your real friends, in many cases.

01:34:22.280 It is long-term consequences for telling the truth.

01:34:27.320 That is not a healthy thing for a civilization.

01:34:29.760 Yeah, it doesn't seem like it.

01:34:31.500 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:34:36.780 What a life we are living right now.

01:34:45.320 What a world we're involved in.

01:34:47.420 It is fascinating.

01:34:48.800 That's crazy.

01:34:49.500 All companies pay for your abortion vacation.

01:34:52.080 Uh-huh, yeah.

01:34:53.060 You're not allowed to say when boys are boys and girls are girls.

01:34:55.920 Right.

01:34:56.820 You're not even allowed to know what a woman is.

01:35:00.080 No.

01:35:00.400 Unless, I guess, you're a biologist.

01:35:03.220 I think biologists can safely describe a woman.

01:35:06.860 No, they can't.

01:35:07.820 I mean, that was funny in the Ketanji Brown-Jackson hearings where they said, hey, can you describe what a woman was?

01:35:13.020 And she said, no, I'm not a biologist.

01:35:15.580 Yeah.

01:35:16.000 And that was the only problem.

01:35:18.140 We had the problem of like, what do you mean you can't tell us what a woman is?

01:35:20.800 What are you, nuts?

01:35:22.080 And the problem the left had with her was saying that a biologist could tell.

01:35:26.600 That was really their problem with it.

01:35:28.520 That was the only criticism she got from the media.

01:35:30.520 Oh, my gosh.

01:35:31.420 Wait a minute.

01:35:32.440 What do you mean a biologist can tell?

01:35:34.440 How dare you?

01:35:35.480 They were upset that she suggested a biologist could tell what a woman was.

01:35:40.300 The only way you can tell is if somebody tells you what gender they are.

01:35:44.640 Right?

01:35:45.020 I mean, you can't assume anything.

01:35:47.380 And you can't.

01:35:48.260 You have no opinion on it, apparently.

01:35:50.520 Like, you can't tell.

01:35:51.960 You can't identify this person in any way.

01:35:54.440 It's only whatever they say they are, which is weird.

01:35:56.660 Like, what if we did that with names?

01:35:58.860 You know what I mean?

01:35:59.260 Like, I'm Bill, I'm Fred, I'm Sally, I'm Tom.

01:36:02.220 Like, no, I need to know you're Pat, or I can't address you.

01:36:06.580 I need to know if you're a boy or a girl, or I can't give you medical treatment.

01:36:10.160 Right?

01:36:10.620 These are really important things, and you need to have some concrete truth on this stuff.

01:36:16.640 It really is weird.

01:36:17.560 Instead, we just pretend that anybody can get pregnant, anybody can have a period, anybody

01:36:21.840 can have a uterus, all of those kinds of weird things that just are, you know, scientifically

01:36:27.760 false.

01:36:29.900 Just reality-based falsehoods.

01:36:33.360 Until the Roe vs. Wade thing comes on.

01:36:36.560 Then we all care about women's rights.

01:36:37.960 Then we all know.

01:36:37.980 Yeah, and we're back to women being women again.

01:36:40.120 Mm-hmm.

01:36:40.520 Huh.

01:36:41.000 Really?

01:36:41.300 It's so weird.

01:36:42.200 It's almost as if none of this is true.

01:36:44.680 It's almost as if all of this is a political movement.

01:36:47.700 It is almost like that.

01:36:49.120 It's almost, you know, exactly like they're just manipulating all of these people for their

01:36:55.640 own political gain.

01:36:56.700 It's almost that way.

01:36:57.800 And into this world comes this Google engineer who's saying that Google has created a sentient

01:37:03.440 AI child and is now claiming that AI child could escape and do bad things.

01:37:11.440 I don't fully understand that concept.

01:37:14.920 It's just in the computer, right?

01:37:17.040 I know.

01:37:17.500 So are you saying it could escape to the internet and go everywhere it wants to go and do weird

01:37:22.180 things to create nuclear war or something?

01:37:24.680 I'll say this.

01:37:25.120 I listened to this story, and we've talked about it before.

01:37:26.960 Later on, I listened to a podcast, I think it was the Wall Street Journal, who actually

01:37:32.960 interviewed this guy.

01:37:34.060 Mm-hmm.

01:37:34.960 And a couple of observations about this.

01:37:38.260 First of all, it did not seem sentient to me when they were talking to it because the

01:37:42.200 woman went over and interviewed-

01:37:43.400 Oh, they did?

01:37:44.160 Interview the thing?

01:37:45.080 The machine?

01:37:45.760 Yeah.

01:37:46.680 And it just sounded like it was a pretty good bot that you'd be, like that you'd go on a

01:37:51.140 credit card site and it would respond to you.

01:37:52.780 Like it was accepting kind of your reality and sort of repeating it back to you.

01:37:56.100 Like that's what it seemed like to me.

01:37:57.440 It didn't, I was not, I did not come out with the impression that it was sentient.

01:38:01.380 Okay.

01:38:02.020 The other thing about it is, it seemed like the guy just wanted to hit on this reporter.

01:38:07.720 That's what, I know this is-

01:38:09.740 Really?

01:38:10.120 This is not part of the story.

01:38:11.900 But just listening to them talk, he invited her over to his apartment and she was like

01:38:17.060 giggling the entire time and it sounded like they were about to just like go to a bar.

01:38:22.500 I don't, I have no idea if that's accurate, but man, just knowing human interactions, it

01:38:28.780 just seemed like this guy was like, you should come over, we'll talk to this computer, it'll

01:38:33.020 be great.

01:38:33.640 And then like, I don't know, maybe we'll watch Netflix.

01:38:35.940 You know, I don't know what it is about it.

01:38:38.680 Over maybe a glass of wine?

01:38:40.040 Yeah.

01:38:40.900 We'll chill afterward.

01:38:41.920 It's Pat and Stu on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:38:49.960 We were talking about this AI that is supposedly sentient.

01:38:53.960 The Google engineer who was involved heavily in this project started talking about, hey,

01:39:00.660 I think we've invented life here in this AI unit and Google put him on paid leave or unpaid

01:39:09.040 leave or something for a while because they were pissed that he started speaking about

01:39:13.600 this.

01:39:13.900 I guess it was supposed to be somewhat secretive.

01:39:17.580 And they said, no, it's not sentient.

01:39:20.500 And so he has been making the rounds and he pushed it a little bit further by saying, not

01:39:27.480 only is this thing like a seven or eight year old kid, but it's a seven year old, seven

01:39:32.240 or eight year old kid who could escape from where he is now and then start doing bad things.

01:39:36.660 Hmm.

01:39:37.920 Okay.

01:39:38.680 Now you saw an interview, right?

01:39:40.800 With this Google engineer and, and did they, they actually ask questions of the, of the

01:39:46.420 unit in question?

01:39:47.520 Yeah.

01:39:47.740 So I should, to correct myself from earlier, it was the Washington Post that actually did

01:39:52.480 this, not Wall Street Journal, but it was Washington Post reporter who went to this

01:39:55.880 guy's apartment and he had access to it.

01:39:58.500 I guess this is before he was suspended and they decided to talk to this thing and you

01:40:04.240 think, okay, well, they're going to talk to it.

01:40:05.380 And then you hear this computerized voice come on and then the podcast is like, we recreated

01:40:10.220 the voice, the things that they typed.

01:40:12.160 So you'd understand what they were.

01:40:13.680 So it only types, it doesn't speak.

01:40:15.840 It's a chat bot like on, on your computer.

01:40:18.000 Like, come on.

01:40:18.780 Right.

01:40:20.060 Secondarily, it just seems to repeat the things that you tell it like in a, in a, in a modified

01:40:26.900 way.

01:40:27.400 Like if you say, uh, Hey, do you feel pain?

01:40:30.680 Of course I feel pain.

01:40:32.380 I feel pain and sorrow.

01:40:34.320 And it's like, okay, well that might be something that anybody would like.

01:40:37.460 It seems like they scour the internet for the normal responses to these things and turn

01:40:41.520 it in.

01:40:42.140 And if you don't lead it down the right path, if you don't ask it the question in the

01:40:46.000 right way, it comes off as completely dumb and just repeats.

01:40:50.300 It's like, I am an automated chat bot, you know, it's like, okay, the sentient being

01:40:55.180 is telling us it's an automated chat bot.

01:40:57.260 And it just doesn't, I will say after listening to this interview, number one, I was relatively

01:41:02.940 convinced that the engineer was hitting on the reporter.

01:41:05.600 And number two, more importantly, perhaps I was convinced actually Google was telling

01:41:10.740 the truth on this.

01:41:11.640 Like I actually thought that this is not, which when you read the articles, it's like, okay,

01:41:16.820 Google's trying to, they're trying to cover this up.

01:41:19.620 Yeah.

01:41:20.260 They've created something here that's getting out of hand and they don't know how to deal

01:41:23.480 with it.

01:41:23.800 So they're just denying, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

01:41:27.540 Now I have a, I come from a skeptical position on a lot of things like this.

01:41:31.240 Like I kind of do, I do think that like, there's a real risk.

01:41:34.420 Elon Musk has talked about it, about AI out of control and in the wrong hands and all those

01:41:38.760 things I think are real.

01:41:40.960 Eventually.

01:41:41.620 I don't think we're there right now.

01:41:43.320 It may not even be real eventually.

01:41:45.280 I don't know.

01:41:45.480 We hear that all the time.

01:41:46.320 The big scare tactic.

01:41:47.240 Oh, this thing's getting out of hand.

01:41:48.600 The super AI is happening and then you see it and it's like, oh, okay, that's not scary

01:41:53.900 at all.

01:41:54.400 It makes sense that eventually it could happen.

01:41:56.720 Like the theory, it's one of those things that I don't know that it's a high percentage

01:41:59.660 chance, but it's a real negative impact if it does happen.

01:42:02.880 So I can understand being worried about it and having ethicists think about it.

01:42:06.460 And Glenn's definitely worried about it.

01:42:08.040 Glenn's super worried about it.

01:42:08.760 Super worried about it.

01:42:09.360 And I am, I'm worried about it.

01:42:11.040 I don't know that it's necessarily coming tomorrow.

01:42:12.760 And I don't think he, he necessarily believes that either, but I would encourage you that

01:42:17.380 it's a, it's a podcast called post reports, which they do, you know, like 15, 20 minute

01:42:21.680 podcasts every day.

01:42:23.160 Sometimes they're interesting.

01:42:24.100 You know, usually, yes, it's the Washington post.

01:42:25.860 So you get a lot of left wing stuff in there, but this one particular episode, if you're

01:42:28.760 interested in this, listen to this and tell me, number one, do you think this is really

01:42:32.340 a sentient being?

01:42:32.940 Because I got the, I did not get the sense it was at all.

01:42:35.960 And number two, is this guy trying to hook up with this reporter?

01:42:38.820 Because I think he is.

01:42:41.020 I, I got, I got, come over to my apartment to see this supercomputer.

01:42:46.260 And maybe we can have, uh, you know, some hors d'oeuvres.

01:42:49.340 Yeah.

01:42:49.880 A glass of wine.

01:42:50.800 Let's talk about this.

01:42:51.900 Maybe let's, let's have some coffee, you know, you need it.

01:42:55.080 Are you thirsty?

01:42:55.820 You need a drink?

01:42:56.520 I've got some wine.

01:42:58.040 I mean, no, it's, I'm just for the environment.

01:43:00.700 That's why I'm burning these candles.

01:43:02.140 It's just, it's just a, no, I don't know.

01:43:04.420 It did set, you got the sense that like, he was like trying to impress this reporter.

01:43:10.860 That's the sense I got.

01:43:12.040 Did she sound impressed?

01:43:13.180 She did sound impressed.

01:43:14.360 She sounded giddy and silly and it sounded like they were on a date.

01:43:18.680 Okay.

01:43:19.040 That's what it sounded like.

01:43:20.140 Now there is a strategy behind this with some reporters, right?

01:43:22.960 When you have someone you're trying to get information out of, you might act that way a

01:43:26.440 little bit to see how far you can go down that road.

01:43:28.380 Loosen them up a little bit.

01:43:29.320 Yeah.

01:43:29.700 Loosen them up a little bit.

01:43:30.560 I think that's very, very common.

01:43:32.580 You compliment the person, you, you act incredibly engaged to try to get to the answers you want.

01:43:39.000 It might have just been that.

01:43:40.240 It also just made me that I'm making it up in my brain, but that is what I heard.

01:43:43.460 That is, I think there, I would not be surprised if tomorrow I got an invite to their marriage.

01:43:49.400 I think that this is going to be a nice relationship and it's going to work out well.

01:43:52.720 Well, let me share this interview with someone who's not sentient, Dana Bash interviewing Kamala

01:44:00.600 Harris, who is not, not a sentient being at all, but they're talking about the justices

01:44:08.260 who misled the public.

01:44:10.040 You were a senator when justices, now justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh testified about many

01:44:19.520 issues, including obviously Roe and their confirmation hearings.

01:44:22.360 Now, Justice Gorsuch said it had been reaffirmed many times.

01:44:27.640 Kavanaugh called it precedent on precedent.

01:44:30.240 At that particular hearing, you were there.

01:44:32.920 Some senators say that they intentionally misled the public and the Congress.

01:44:38.420 What do you think?

01:44:39.460 What do you think?

01:44:39.880 I never believed them.

01:44:41.860 Yeah.

01:44:42.200 I didn't believe them.

01:44:42.960 You're not sentient, so.

01:44:44.540 That's why I voted against them.

01:44:45.960 That's why.

01:44:46.880 That's why.

01:44:47.560 Okay.

01:44:48.620 Do you think that there's anything to be done now?

01:44:51.720 I mean, there's no.

01:44:52.780 What are you going to do?

01:44:53.900 What are you, what are you pushing her to say here?

01:44:56.120 What should they be?

01:44:57.660 Well, the, the pitches from the AOC is making it explicitly.

01:45:00.760 She's saying they should be impeached.

01:45:02.440 They lied in their hearings.

01:45:03.700 They should be impeached.

01:45:04.320 Now, they didn't lie in their hearings.

01:45:06.860 They did not lie.

01:45:07.840 It is absolutely ridiculous that no point do they say anything inconsistent to what they did.

01:45:13.380 Precedent on top of precedent is something you talk about for the lower courts.

01:45:17.540 Yeah.

01:45:17.920 Right?

01:45:18.220 It's not.

01:45:18.740 Yeah.

01:45:18.860 You have a different role as a Supreme Court justice.

01:45:22.520 Your opportunity to turn over something that was egregiously wrong from the start is absolutely there.

01:45:29.500 And I believe, could be Kavanaugh, I think, actually said those words.

01:45:34.340 Because, you know, we, we, of course, do have the opportunity to turn over, overturn something that is egregiously wrong.

01:45:40.040 Yeah.

01:45:40.640 Um, you know, that's what they.

01:45:42.320 Dred Scott.

01:45:42.800 How about that?

01:45:43.400 Yeah.

01:45:43.740 Uh, they did.

01:45:45.140 They've done it many, many times.

01:45:46.880 Let me give you something else.

01:45:47.860 Roe versus Wade.

01:45:49.160 Roe versus Wade overturned 150 years of precedent.

01:45:53.100 Right.

01:45:53.700 That's right.

01:45:54.160 And Casey overturned Roe versus Wade.

01:45:57.420 Jeez.

01:45:58.140 And then they overturned those two.

01:46:00.860 Uh, it doesn't happen often.

01:46:02.780 The point is you generally speaking seed to previous decisions.

01:46:07.940 If it's a close call, the idea is not to shake up society every two days or every time you get a new justice in there.

01:46:13.580 Right.

01:46:14.060 If it's close call, they kind of just like, well, all right, well, we're going to stick with that reasoning for now.

01:46:18.140 Not when it's egregiously wrong from the start.

01:46:19.720 They're acknowledging that exists and it is a thing and other courts have upheld precedent, but that's not what they're bound to.

01:46:28.620 They're bound to the United States Constitution, not to precedent, not to stare decisis.

01:46:34.840 You're supposed to rule on whether something is constitutional or not.

01:46:39.080 Yep.

01:46:39.440 That's their job.

01:46:40.420 And Clarence Thomas is the one with the most pure version of that in which he says, basically, you do it because it's right.

01:46:45.980 But everybody else on the court is like, well, you know, we're going to need to consider X, Y, and Z.

01:46:50.380 Thomas is like, whatever is right, we should do, which is why, of course, I like him so much.

01:46:54.820 Right.

01:46:55.060 It's why the conservatives love the guy because that's, he does, he has no hesitation in that and he's the only one who's like that.

01:47:00.800 And he's been consistent in that way.

01:47:02.080 Yeah.

01:47:02.320 You might disagree with him on some decisions, but he's always just doing what he's right, what is right.

01:47:07.540 That's all, that's all he's doing.

01:47:09.060 He has no, no compunction to do anything else.

01:47:12.040 He doesn't need to.

01:47:13.260 He just goes for it.

01:47:14.240 But, you know, that is a different thing than we're talking about here.

01:47:18.460 And, and look, ever since Bork, because of what the left did to Bork, everybody in those, in those hearings is at some level misleading.

01:47:30.040 Like, not misleading trying to tell you the wrong thing, but just not telling you the full truth.

01:47:34.640 Yeah.

01:47:34.980 Well, Ketanji Brown Jackson, who's just avoiding a question by saying, I don't know what a woman is, I'm not a biologist.

01:47:41.360 Well, that's BS.

01:47:42.140 It could be yes.

01:47:42.680 You just said that under oath.

01:47:44.200 Really?

01:47:44.600 Yeah.

01:47:44.920 What should be done about that?

01:47:46.360 How many times did Ketanji Brown Jackson say the word originalism?

01:47:49.820 Does anybody believe she's going to be a originalist in the court?

01:47:52.760 Of course not.

01:47:53.660 She never would have been named.

01:47:54.960 You have a president of the United States, Donald Trump, who is elected primarily because he said he was going to pick off a list of judges that came from the Federalist Society.

01:48:05.480 And then Donald Trump explicitly said he went beyond previous presidents and explicitly said he would only name pro-life judges.

01:48:15.000 He basically said, yes, I have a litmus test.

01:48:17.900 Yes.

01:48:18.580 He actually came out and said it.

01:48:20.160 And then we're supposed to believe that Joe Manchin and Susan Collins actually thought they might vote the other way on this.

01:48:26.800 Come on.

01:48:27.460 They're just trying to avoid the fallout.

01:48:31.060 That's it.

01:48:31.740 Yeah.

01:48:31.960 They're trying to say they're trying to pass it off to Kavanaugh and Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett so that they don't get the heat from the left or from the moderates in Collins's case.

01:48:42.060 And yet, as we mentioned yesterday, it is Clarence Thomas who's receiving the brunt of all the criticism.

01:48:48.480 Weird.

01:48:49.060 I wonder why that is.

01:48:50.200 Huh.

01:48:51.300 Because Sam Alito wrote the opinion and the rest of the justices were, you know, the conservative-leaning justices were on board with it.

01:49:02.060 Why is everybody singling out Clarence Thomas?

01:49:04.780 Huh.

01:49:05.320 And Hillary Clinton had this to say about Clarence Thomas.

01:49:09.520 This is amazing.

01:49:10.520 I went to law school with him.

01:49:13.140 He's been...

01:49:14.300 Pause it for just a second.

01:49:16.340 Did you...

01:49:17.180 Did you.

01:49:17.940 Did you and Clarence Thomas hang out?

01:49:20.640 No.

01:49:20.960 Did you really sit down with him and have dinner and go to movies with him and hang out and discuss life with him?

01:49:29.180 You know she doesn't know Clarence Thomas.

01:49:31.840 And there's been several reports now from people who were there at the time and said they didn't know each other.

01:49:36.160 They didn't have interactions.

01:49:37.920 They were not buddies.

01:49:38.720 She graduated in 73.

01:49:40.840 He graduated in 74.

01:49:42.280 They weren't even in the same year together.

01:49:44.140 Yeah.

01:49:44.500 Now, had they ever seen each other on campus?

01:49:46.540 Yeah, maybe.

01:49:47.380 Maybe.

01:49:47.680 It also shows, you know, what an amazing country this is in that, you know, you can have the divergence of two people who went to the same school relatively speaking at the same time.

01:49:56.120 And one could turn out to be as amazing as Clarence Thomas and one could be Hillary Clinton.

01:50:00.680 Yeah.

01:50:00.840 One could be evil incarnate.

01:50:02.540 Right.

01:50:02.900 And the other one is fantastic.

01:50:04.640 It's so incredible.

01:50:06.220 It's amazing.

01:50:06.940 But, you know, that's already, I think, been disproven by a bunch of people.

01:50:11.080 But even if it were true, at that time, Clarence Thomas wasn't even really a conservative yet.

01:50:16.340 Right.

01:50:16.840 I mean, he had a very different path.

01:50:19.360 He did not.

01:50:19.720 He was not a conservative from birth.

01:50:21.720 At one point, people referred to him as a black nationalist.

01:50:25.040 Jeez.

01:50:25.420 I mean, you know, he was a totally different guy at the period she's talking about, but she just wants to be able to be involved in everything.

01:50:33.200 Right.

01:50:33.360 Please leave us alone, Hillary.

01:50:34.780 Please.

01:50:35.620 But she went on.

01:50:36.920 For as long as I've known him.

01:50:39.020 Resentment, grievance, anger.

01:50:41.560 Really?

01:50:42.160 And he has signaled in the past to lower courts, to state legislatures, to find cases, pass laws, get them up.

01:50:52.660 I may not win the first, the second, or the third time, but we're going to keep at it.

01:50:58.140 Okay.

01:50:59.080 All right.

01:50:59.660 That's good.

01:51:01.080 She sounds like she's describing herself there.

01:51:03.700 Yeah.

01:51:04.140 Resentment, grievance, anger.

01:51:06.940 That perfectly describes her.

01:51:09.460 And even Sonia Sotomayor, who is one of the big liberals on the bench, she essentially disputed this a couple of months ago when she talked about Clarence Thomas.

01:51:20.580 And what a great guy he is.

01:51:21.900 Yeah, that's true.

01:51:22.340 That he's warm and personable, and that he's the one who goes, like, to the janitor who's mopping up and asks about his son, and he cares about people and talks to them.

01:51:33.740 So, seems to completely be the opposite of what Hillary had to say about him.

01:51:38.780 And as far as someone who's always seeming to have grievance, we know Hillary Clinton is that person, right?

01:51:44.840 Absolutely.

01:51:45.120 She's still saying the 2016 election was stolen, it was illegitimate, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:51:50.300 But Clarence Thomas, here's a guy who has a real reason, who could actually say grievance, he could be filled with grievance and hatred for this country.

01:52:00.500 A guy who grew up in the segregated South, a guy who really lived that life, who constantly...

01:52:09.140 Still called the N-word by the left, is still bashed all the time in social media.

01:52:17.120 Yeah.

01:52:17.300 So, they demonize him continually.

01:52:20.120 Yep.

01:52:20.700 And so, he grew up, he wound up loving this country, even though he grew up in a country that was much, much more awful to African Americans than the one is today.

01:52:30.360 Mm-hmm.

01:52:30.700 He went past that, and he is, you know, this is the type of thing that gives you a backbone.

01:52:35.500 And he sits there, and he says, you know what?

01:52:37.720 The truth, period.

01:52:39.520 The truth, period.

01:52:40.760 Not John Roberts.

01:52:42.000 Not, I don't know.

01:52:43.420 I'm not sure.

01:52:44.660 I don't, I'm worried about our reputation.

01:52:47.280 Oh, no.

01:52:47.940 Not that.

01:52:49.020 The truth, period.

01:52:51.560 As he sees it.

01:52:53.020 Doesn't mean he's right on everything.

01:52:54.300 I think he's right on most things, but he's not right maybe on everything, but he says what he feels every time.

01:53:00.180 That's the exact, the entire job of the Supreme Court.

01:53:04.280 That's what you're supposed to be doing.

01:53:05.580 Yeah, absolutely.

01:53:06.980 888-727-BECK.

01:53:09.120 Stand up!

01:53:10.240 This is the Glenn Back Program.

01:53:26.240 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn, and joined by Jeff Fisher for some reason.

01:53:32.020 Jeffy.

01:53:32.260 Hi, stop, Ben.

01:53:32.740 I want to do the show with you.

01:53:33.840 Oh, okay.

01:53:34.240 I thought I'd stick around for the whole show.

01:53:36.720 Oh, man.

01:53:37.080 I wish we had more time.

01:53:38.040 Yeah, really.

01:53:38.600 You know, it's too bad you waited until now, but.

01:53:42.160 Oh.

01:53:42.560 So let's do what Glenn does with Bill O'Reilly.

01:53:44.640 What's the most important story of the week?

01:53:46.220 The most important story of the week is that this is the America I want to live in now.

01:53:50.260 Stores apparently have a glutton of goods.

01:53:53.500 And so if you purchase a product and don't want it, they're going to give you a refund, but let you keep the product.

01:54:00.820 Wow.

01:54:00.940 This is the America I want to live in.

01:54:03.160 Okay.

01:54:03.420 Now, who would, nobody would take advantage of that.

01:54:05.680 Not, right?

01:54:07.360 I am a fan of this America.

01:54:09.480 Yep.

01:54:09.940 Don't want it.

01:54:10.720 Give me my money back.

01:54:12.020 Oh, I have to keep the product?

01:54:13.460 Oh, darn.

01:54:14.540 Okay.

01:54:15.300 This is different than your normal process of just taking the stuff off the shelf and walking out of the store.

01:54:19.760 I don't know.

01:54:20.300 I don't know how many times I can get a new TV out of the deal, but I'm going to give it a shot.

01:54:24.800 I guess it goes probably step by step on your podcast on this.

01:54:27.420 Isn't that correct?

01:54:27.840 That's correct.

01:54:28.680 Absolutely.

01:54:29.280 Chewing the fat.

01:54:30.400 Yes.

01:54:30.740 Very good.

01:54:31.160 Yes.

01:54:31.380 Very good.

01:54:31.940 Very good.

01:54:32.240 Lots of podcasts to listen to.

01:54:33.060 There's that.

01:54:33.700 There's Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:54:34.980 You want to check out Stu Does America.

01:54:37.780 Mm-hmm.

01:54:38.260 And you can, by the way, remember, instead of January 6th, you can remember 6-24-22.

01:54:43.340 Get the t-shirt.

01:54:43.940 It's available now at StuDoesMerch.com.

01:54:46.760 And, you know, I guess probably check out whatever Jeffy's show is.

01:54:50.720 It's called Tune of the Fat.

01:54:51.980 What are you talking about?

01:54:53.020 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 29, 2022

'Bombshell' Jan. 6 Testimony Is ALREADY Falling Apart ｜ 6⧸29⧸22

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