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If you're a farmer, your chickens may not just have the sniffles, it could be bird flu. The first severe human case has happened in Louisiana, but Gavin Newsom knows he better invoke emergency action right away. Wait until you hear this story with Liz Wheeler.
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If you're a farmer, your chickens may not just have the sniffles.
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Now, it happened in Louisiana, but Gavin Newsom knows he better invoke emergency action right away.
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With Liz Wheeler joining me again today on the Glenn Beck Program, we begin in 60 seconds.
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Well, let me say hello to the lovely and talented Liz Wheeler.
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I mean, Bill Gates warned us, you know, and he strangely knows when these things are happening.
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Uh, he's experiencing severe respiratory illness related to H5N1, uh, infection, which is bird flu.
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Uh, CDC says the patient was likely exposed to the virus from a backyard flock, which could be the first time such a flock has been associated with bird flu infection in the U.S.
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Uh, some of the chickens are in line to be questioned.
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One of them was caught coughing, but another one had the sniffle.
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But Gavin Newsom is about to spring into action.
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I heard that even though this happened in Louisiana, Gavin Newsom heard about it because he was at the French laundry restaurant up in San Francisco.
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Listen, on March 19th of 2020, I lived in California.
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I lived in San Diego when he locked down the state.
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I was sitting in a park on a hillside by my house.
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And when I say park, I mean a grassy hill, not a playground.
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And a police officer on an ATV comes up to me and goes, ma'am, this park is closed.
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And he's like, well, social distancing rules from Gavin Newsom.
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And I was like, the only one that violated is you on your ATV.
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And I pointed that out to him, but he didn't think it was amusing.
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Although I couldn't really see because he had a mask on.
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I don't think anybody is smiling in California.
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Now, when I say that, I don't mean that his father is Fidel Castro.
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I didn't mean that literally that he is Justin Trudeau.
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But he's the closest thing that we have to Justin Trudeau.
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Uh, and so he said, uh, that he passed a proclamation.
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Uh, the proclamation I'm quoting is targeted action to ensure government agencies have the
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I don't know about you, but I think if it's in Louisiana, it might come through Texas first
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and then New Mexico and then, well, nothing really goes through New Mexico and then, uh,
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Arizona and boom, there it's in California, but California is responding first.
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And when I think bird flu, I think we've got to have some emergency measures and more money
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going into the government and their state coffers.
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He said, building on California's testing and monitoring system.
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We're committed to further protecting public health.
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Supporting our agriculture industry, ensuring that Californians have access to accurate up
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How does this guy, how does he say this with a straight face?
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As $176 million are poured into Moderna's coffers for bird flu vaccine development.
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You know, they were fighting disinformation during the election.
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But I bet if we check, I bet bird flu or some sort of pandemic is back at the top of the charts.
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He actually confirms that, he says, there have been no documented instances of human-to-human transmission to date.
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Yeah, I'd say, like, almost at this point, unbelievably low.
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Like, zero, because you've had chicken-to-farmer transmission, but not farmer-to-farmer or human-to-human, because animals are people, too.
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When I say farmer, there could be some monkeys on the loose.
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In Florida, oh my gosh, I never thought of that.
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But all of those monkeys, if you had monkeys will mysteriously start popping up in neighborhoods on your bingo card for this year, you might be a big winner.
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I didn't have that on my bingo card, but apparently in Florida, monkeys have become a problem.
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And they're saying, if one of them is at, I'm not kidding, I'm not making this up, if one of them is at your window or your door, don't open it.
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That's, you know, that's, that's pretty good advice.
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But then again, I didn't think I'd see monkeys at my door.
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Anyway, back to California, where things truly make sense.
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Um, they, uh, the governor's office said 34 cases of bird flu in humans have been detected in California.
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Have you heard about all those horrible, horrible deaths of the 34 people that caught the bird flu?
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But do you know, when, when I saw the report, it looked like they'd taken a magic eraser and just scrubbed out COVID and put bird flu.
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So they, they have some similarities those deaths do that just, you know, we should believe everything.
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These government officials tell us, Glenn, we shouldn't, we shouldn't question anything.
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And I'll bet it, I'm going to say this and I'm going to say it.
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I bet the birds with a cough or the sniffles are pecking the udders of the Amish cows and it's going into raw milk.
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And those damn Amish people are spreading this cow milk bird flu all over the one guy in Louisiana.
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Let's all get together and say enough with the Amish.
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Um, you're making a joke right now, but truly on his proclamation, I'm reading it right now.
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He talks about reducing raw dairy product contamination.
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It was my dream to work at KFMB in, uh, San Francisco.
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I wanted to live in, but at some point I sobered up.
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Uh, I went into Alcoholics Anonymous and I realized, well, right.
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that's a really bad idea what are you doing in California get out while you can take it from Liz
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what was it Liz that you thought was the final final straw was it the park or what was it that
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you went I can't do it anymore truly the tipping point for me leaving California was the fact that
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we left in November of 2020 because I was six months pregnant and I was like wait a second
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we can't raise a child in California safely and to be a good and holy person I as a parent don't
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feel like I have rights over my child and so we packed up our stuff and out we went you don't
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so may I recommend if you're living in California get pregnant sober you up quickly even if you're
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a man get pregnant because in California we know men can get pregnant so get pregnant right away
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you'll sober up and you'll get your ass to Texas now if you're in California you're like this sucks
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I want to vote exactly the same way because I'm completely clueless is what's causing all of
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these problems in California I'm going to move to Texas stay away from our state in fact I'm in
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Nashville Tennessee today uh and I would just like to say you're starting to wreck Nashville
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get out of our states you know I I personally have no problem with real estate agents when they see
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the the number come up and it's like oh it's a California area code not answering the phone or
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saying man all of our listings have just burned burned in a horrible fire while we were losing
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our guns in the lake uh gosh I don't have a problem with that I really don't you know Liz I found out
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that uh Melinda Gates was looking at a house in my neighborhood Melinda Gates I about had a heart
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attack I feel like the the sound of the Wicked Witch of the West is like coming in it was it really
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was all the neighbors meant they're like we gotta stop this how do we stop yeah pull your money buy
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the house out from under her prevent her from moving in we were ready we were ready um but anyway
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back to Gavin Newsom who is the Justin Trudeau of Canada and I think what's happening to Justin Trudeau
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is in the future of Gavin Newsom um I don't know if you you know Gavin Newsom has a a favorability
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rating now of 12 for for anybody who said oh Donald Trump's the pariah of the world he didn't have an
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approval rating of 12 he had an approval rating of what was his lowest like 38 38 that's that's the
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himalayas compared to a rating of 12 uh and in Canada that's like eight people anyway um there's
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a new song out that I think it's our responsibility I don't like making fun of Canada but I do like
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making fun of dictators and because they hate it so much um I would like to encourage um any of the
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radio stations uh near you know Detroit crank this one up maybe they can hear it in Canada and any
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Canadian radio station with any balls whatsoever and I know that you have all kinds of government limits
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on you but if you have any cojones at all you'd be playing this song for uh for your audience by the guy
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who started uh five for fighting yes indeed here's the new song from John Andrasic
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Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he never played hockey
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Justin Trudeau has got to go it's damn clear he never played hockey
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totalitarian parliamentarians they have no mind to skate their only love their hate
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they'll freeze your bank account they'll freeze your bank account the Mounties they won't mount
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Justin Trudeau is rather slow it's too bad he never played hockey
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like a great one this potato has got to go get someone who played hockey
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he likes to arrest jews while wearing taylor shoes the black-based bolshevik would never last one shift
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he wouldn't shake your hand after a seventh game he has no honor code like ty domi and bob probert
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oh Canada he's not part of a team he's wimpy and he's mean he's the emergency the true north strong and free
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he never ate a puck he doesn't give a truck a gaudy how hat trick the thought would make him sick
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if he just scored one goal his heart would have a soul and understand assists are more than shots that miss
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and no humility freedom liberty it's more than just the game god save us
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justin trudeau wants you to know he never played hockey like the great one justin trudeau has got to go
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john andresi he is fabulous all right let me take a quick break tell you about the uh ifcj that's the
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oh the weather outside is oh my gosh uh suddenly right before we went on stage uh we she went on stage
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last night my daughter uh at the grand old opry um i didn't want to vomit blood anymore i was perfectly
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calm and all of that was transferred right directly to her as she walked out on stage her first couple
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of notes you could tell she was very very nervous and then she just she just nailed it um and was
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fantastic she opened last night they don't ever do this uh for king and country but they allowed her to
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open last night um they've got two other nights now at uh the grand old opry if you've never seen
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them this is their christmas show if you've never seen them live it's almost as if you haven't seen a
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concert they are so incredible i saw them in kansas city about four months ago three months ago and then
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uh i saw them again last night different show this is all christmas and it is so
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good one of them brings his wife up on stage and she's a i think she's a latin country singer
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she's unbelievable this talent is like riddled in this family anyway for king and country thank you
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as my daughter said on stage last night for making a little girl's dream come true uh all right so let's
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see what else do we have to talk about um oh trump uh i think trump is where is now leading something
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that is becoming very apparent even to the republicans notice i didn't say conservatives i said republicans
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the johnson year and spending bill wow did that go down in flames i mean i could see my my daughter
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on stage from the rockets red glare coming out of washington dc on that bill we'll talk to you about
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that and where we're headed next all coming up we've got a great program lined up don't miss a second
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glenn beck okay markets that are all-time highs the economy seems to you know seem to be unstoppable
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everybody's like oh man it is it's so great it's hopeful and everything else and but what we have
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to remember is even though donald trump is coming in and he's going to make massive changes biden buried
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us in debt and deficits and then set booby traps to go off they're still setting them all over in the
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government it's going to take us a while to dig out of that and if there's any surprises along the
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from the new release from cheyenne grace uh the name of the album is home for christmas
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it's great you might start you probably have started hearing it just in
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you know spotify and itunes and radio now i mean it's really been incredible
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but get it for your family you're going to love it it's all traditional christmas music
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uh done kind of in with the arrangements that everybody knows uh anyway um let me let me go back
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to um donald trump and really you x um you talk radio and donald trump and jd vance are the ones that
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killed this horrible bill in congress yesterday and i haven't heard an official it's dead
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but everybody that i've talked to say oh it's not it's not coming back um and donald trump said i
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want a clean continuing resolution i don't want any there's no ornaments ornaments on this tree none
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pass this and just keep the government functioning nothing else that's exactly what they should have done
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the first first time um there's a great article uh at glenbeck.com the deep state's new plan to
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backstab donald trump if you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year because there's
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there's this attitude right now and i don't know if you've sensed this liz wheeler um but there is this
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attitude that oh trump selected and that's exactly what we did in 2016 and you saw what we got four years
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later now we brought this change and we're here and people are thinking it's fixed i i talked to um
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uh lear capital uh and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in um you know emergency you
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know and and things like hey back up your money and they said on election day they can see phone calls
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phone calls phone calls phone calls election nothing and that's what happened in 2016 and i i have to
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tell you please don't do this again there there is so much to clear and we're only at the beginning
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that wasn't the end it feels peaceful now but believe me political war is going to be turned up
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to 11 so please don't rest on your laurels and think everything is okay it's good we can be
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positive but let's not deceive ourselves you agree with that liz i think we are very different than we
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were four years ago trump eight years ago i should say trump is very different in the sense that he
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understands how the deep state operates you can see this in the way that he speaks you can see this in
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the policies that he's presenting you can see this and who he's surrounding himself with at advisors
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and cabinet nominations but we are very different too because complacency can be our worst enemy it
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certainly i would argue has been in the last 50 60 years this is not a recent thing but yesterday
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should prove that we know what we're doing this time differently than the last time too we understand
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that we have a role not just in casting our ballots not just in the lead up to an election making
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an argument for a candidate but being an intricate part of every minute detail of a transition and
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administration and i've never seen this maybe you have seen this i have never seen this before
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to this level in my entire political life and i don't think people are planning on stopping that
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yesterday was an example of us doing it better i saw it in 1980 because we were in a similar
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situation but not as bad as we are now uh with jimmy carter uh and so i saw it back then and it lasted
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for a while it lasted in probably until oh maybe 90 it lasted a decade if we can get a decade out of this
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that would be great we need 12 years to be able to really make an impact and we need 12 years of the
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republicans in the house and the senate if you don't get that it's going to be a lot harder to do
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this we have to reverse everything and you know there's two stories um in the um washington examiner
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both of which i enjoyed and think are something you should read that's why we put them in our
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morning newsletter at glenbeck.com um which is free by the way sign up for it um the washington
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examiner has two stories in and i agree with both but i i i want to i want a caveat on these first
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the first story is is really great it's about wiping the smile off of barack obama's face uh and
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it ends in 2016 the then president barack obama mocked in a tweet in which trump called him perhaps
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the worst president in the history of the united states in 2016 um uh that's what president trump said
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obama said at least i will go down as a president and then had the little mic drop you know uh okay
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all right well um he did too in fact he's going down as one of the only presidents who have ever lost a
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second term and then won it because you because let's let's be honest barack this is your administration
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this was you this wasn't joe biden this was you and your people and all the people you trust to
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transform the united states of america and finally you have been defeated uh so i you know gosh i
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i hate to point it out but you are going to start losing uh your image and you already have people are
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starting to go wait a minute i don't think barack obama was who i thought he was then there's another
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story in uh washington examiner that you need to read a conservative comeback in the culture war and
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it is so satisfying and i think so true it says over the um preceding 21 months this this is uh talking
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about how you know the culture had completely changed and joy reed came out on msnbc and she said
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you know the john wayne era is over um the the right literally can't win cultural progression
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is relentless once people get a taste of modernity they almost never go back willingly
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um okay so she she had a right to be hubris at that point um because they were wiping the floor with
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us honestly in october gang let's all remember we thought the country could be over we didn't know
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who our neighbors even were and we said to each other at that time if this country votes for more of this
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then they don't understand liberty in the constitution they don't want it anymore well they didn't and i
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think part of that is because god came to the rescue and did the things that we couldn't do but
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we did do the things that we could do and that is get out and vote but he held the quite honestly the
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judgment back from us so we could go out and vote now god has done his part we know he's not neutral in
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this he's done his part by saving donald trump from assassination we went out and vote now god's
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saying okay so what are you going to do with it and if we piss it away and think that donald trump
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god bless him i think he's amazing he is not the same man he's going he has the possibility and i i
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i used to hate when people said this about anybody or he could go down as another abraham lincoln
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i'm telling you he could go down as another abraham lincoln but only if we do our part and the thing
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about that article in uh the examiner is uh it please let's let's let's not get uh cocky
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come on luke don't get cocky kid don't do it leads to bad things liz it reminds me i feel like we're in
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one of those dr franklin moments where he says madam a republic if you can keep it yes it's this
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moment where we have this great celebration because something tremendous and extraordinary
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just happened we have just freed ourselves from the oppressors and we should take a moment and say
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wow this we should we should bask in the enormity of that moment but also we should understand that
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like a marriage not being the end of a courtship it is the beginning of an adventure that is where we
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are in this cultural battle too the the work and the adventure are now beginning remember uh it was
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common sense that brought us to the declaration of independence literally and figuratively uh thomas
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paine brings us to the declaration of independence and everybody was a sunshine patriot everybody was on
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board they were so excited by christmas after that happened in july of the same year by christmas the
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whole thing seemed to be over everybody had lost hope and he wrote the american crisis sunshine patriots
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Well, hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We have Congressman Barry Loudermilk on.
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but maybe be tried for the things she did and others did on the January 6th scandal.
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Okay, Barry Loudermilk, the House GOP head of the committee looking into January 6th, says Liz Cheney
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should be investigated for witness tampering. That's what he came out with yesterday. They've
00:46:56.960
been doing an investigation, but there's a lot more to it. Barry, welcome to the program.
00:47:01.220
Lynn, thanks for having me on, and thank you for covering this. So many media outlets won't even
00:47:08.140
touch anything with January 6th, but you've been very consistent with it.
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I have to tell you, I was at my, I was at, I don't want to get really specific because it might hurt
00:47:17.560
them. I was at a place of business, somebody I know who's completely rational, big business person.
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They happened to be in Washington that day. They were outside of the Capitol. They did nothing.
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And they were just charged with six felonies. And I said, what's on, what's on the videotape? And they
00:47:40.700
said, we did nothing. We did nothing. We happened to be there, but we didn't do anything. And it's,
00:47:48.460
it's gone crazy, Barry. It has absolutely gone crazy. So, you know, when you look into these things,
00:47:57.000
what do you think the biggest discovery or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and
00:48:06.620
Well, besides what we're going to talk about with Liz Cheney, I think it's the, uh, the tremendous
00:48:15.860
failures in several areas of our government and then the subsequent coverup to try to cover up their
00:48:23.220
failure and, uh, people just closing their, their, their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald
00:48:30.900
Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything when it was a massive
00:48:36.220
failure on several fronts. And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've made,
00:48:41.800
made this, this point in the report is the FBI will go to great lengths using video footage
00:48:50.520
to find a grandma who goes into the Capitol praise and then leaves or someone like the person you were
00:48:56.520
talking about, who just happened to be out there and charge them with crimes. But yet they have no
00:49:02.200
idea who placed the pipe bombs. That's not true. And part of that is because they pulled resources away
00:49:08.120
from that investigation. And then as we released in this report, they lied about the evidence that they
00:49:15.440
had or supposedly had, uh, regarding the pipe bomber. They, they told us that, well, the identity of the
00:49:21.340
pipe bomber is within, uh, uh, data that we received from a major cell phone carrier that was corrupt.
00:49:27.440
And then we couldn't, we couldn't get it. Was that not true? That turned out to be a lie. No,
00:49:32.120
it is not. Oh my gosh. We've been investigating that. Obviously it's, it's, it's kind of easy to find
00:49:39.480
who the perpetrators are now because they all retired recently. Once we started this investigation,
00:49:43.740
you've seen a lot of retirement. This was the field office director here in Washington, DC told the
00:49:51.060
select committee on January 6th, well, we were investigating and we subpoenaed all the major
00:49:56.980
carriers, but one carrier, the data they provided us was corrupted. And we, that's the data that the
00:50:04.660
pipe bomber would be it. So we took that, we went to the three major carriers, asked them all,
00:50:10.660
and we kind of knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because we wanted to see what
00:50:15.980
we could find out. All three of them said, yes. Uh, we were subpoenaed by the FBI. Uh,
00:50:21.860
we did provide data. All three of them said the FBI never came back to us and asked for the data
00:50:28.340
again, telling us it was corrupted. And then the last question I asked was, do you still have the
00:50:32.800
data? And all of them said, yes, we keep data for every major event. And in fact, the one carrier
00:50:38.080
said, we still have all the data from the Oklahoma city bombing. Oh my God. So that, that agent
00:50:43.660
absolutely lied because he said it was corrupted and we couldn't get it because it was no longer
00:50:49.600
available. This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping
00:50:56.120
of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of, of, uh, special investigations.
00:51:03.900
I think you're right. I can't verify that, but I think you may be right. What gets me is,
00:51:10.720
okay. They put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to
00:51:17.800
all lengths to find anyone who was around the Capitol. That is not an equal application of the
00:51:22.820
law. You know, it's also interesting. They didn't even investigating, according to your report,
00:51:27.960
they did no investigation into who constructed the gallows. Tell me about that.
00:51:34.780
So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to, except for the Democrats,
00:51:38.560
because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this, this campaign for the Democrats
00:51:43.520
was going to be run on January 6th. That was what they had. They totally messed the economy up.
00:51:49.060
They totally blew our standing nation nationally. We became, you know, we were a big national security
00:51:55.040
risk. Basically this administration was a complete failure. The only thing they could run on was
00:52:00.420
January 6th and that Donald Trump is a traitor to our country. We systematically dismantled that.
00:52:07.100
But the one thing that they had was the gallows and they would put the gallows up in their early
00:52:12.300
campaign ads. Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up. Um, they claim it was
00:52:18.480
people who, who put it there to hang Mike Pence because he wasn't going to object to the, the,
00:52:26.100
you know, uh, certification of votes. Right. But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what
00:52:31.820
Pence was going to do until one o'clock in the afternoon. And the gallows was put up at six o'clock
00:52:38.560
in the morning. So how could they have directed Mike Pence when nobody knew what he was going to
00:52:44.080
do? Right. So we started looking into, because my initial question was, how was that gallows allowed
00:52:50.860
to stay up on Capitol property all day long? And even into the evening, you know, you can't put up a
00:52:58.480
little stand on the Capitol property without a permit immediately taken down. How would the Capitol
00:53:03.880
police allow that to stay up or the park police, whoever a gallows, how was it allowed to stay up
00:53:09.140
all day? So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation
00:53:15.020
the FBI did into it. So we looked at our videos for the Capitol surveillance videos, and we could see
00:53:21.940
where the, the people carrying the gallows came from. They, they had a hand truck full of lumber
00:53:27.840
pulling it up. I think it was up Pennsylvania or constitution Avenue. So I put a team on this
00:53:33.740
and they started looking and said, all right, let's go to every government building along the
00:53:38.800
street and ask them two questions. One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do?
00:53:46.260
Do they still have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten. And the
00:53:51.280
third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video? And the answer for every one of
00:53:56.740
them was no. She spent no time looking into who erected the gallows. Wow. And we have a clear
00:54:05.860
picture of one of them. So yeah, there, there was a total, there was a lot of effort put into
00:54:14.120
convictions, but it was only on one side. It was on one side. Congressman Loudermilk,
00:54:18.240
it's Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in today for Stu here at Blaze HQ in Dallas. Question for you,
00:54:23.920
according to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional
00:54:28.740
investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers. Do you know, not just that Liz Cheney
00:54:36.340
and her January 6th committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data,
00:54:41.980
but do you know the identity of the pipe bombers? We don't know the identity, but this is being done
00:54:48.640
in coordination with the judiciary committee chair by Jim Jordan. And so we've done our part of the
00:54:54.700
report. They're working on their part, their part. I expect it to be released sometime next week. I
00:54:59.800
know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming, but we want to make sure that
00:55:05.620
we get it right. And so we're compiling all the information they have and we have, and we're not
00:55:11.720
going to identify who it is because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of
00:55:16.360
potentially, you know, where they came from. I mean, we were able to track their vehicle
00:55:21.100
that they were in, that the FBI never, never went and tried to look for. So Congressman,
00:55:28.500
let me ask you this. Let's, let's go back to Liz Cheney here because you, you say she should be
00:55:35.260
investigated and possibly tried. I hope if these things are true, I hope every damn one of these
00:55:44.320
people, no matter which side they're on are put in jail. Is it, have you found enough to have,
00:55:54.040
uh, a reasonable, uh, grand jury say, uh, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be
00:56:01.860
a trial. And can you get it out of Washington DC, which will never be a fair trial?
00:56:07.000
Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch. And I've said all
00:56:15.100
along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the
00:56:19.300
current department of justice. We have a new department of justice coming in. Yes. So we are,
00:56:25.780
uh, this is one of the reasons we're making this referral. Let me just real quickly lay the basis of
00:56:31.040
why I'm saying Liz Cheney should be investigated because Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness came
00:56:38.460
in and testified before their, the select committee twice under oath. The third time she started
00:56:44.880
changing her first two testimonies. And then the fourth time she totally came out with all kinds of
00:56:50.240
crazy stories, right? This is about Trump attacking secret service officers, throwing food and chanting
00:56:57.040
that Mike Pence should be hung. Okay. She significantly changed her testimony to the point where she
00:57:03.380
would have committed perjury either before or after what changed, what changed. It was between her first
00:57:10.280
two and the next two that she started communicating directly with Liz Cheney. This is, and Liz even said
00:57:17.380
this is unethical. So let's just use Liz Cheney's own standards. All right. In July of 2022, Liz Cheney,
00:57:25.720
and we have the video of her doing this in a committee, um, referred Donald Trump to the
00:57:32.440
department of justice to be investigated for witness tampering because he said Trump tried to contact a
00:57:39.700
witness. He wasn't successful. He only tried to contact a witness. So they assumed it was witness
00:57:45.380
tampering and they referred him to the department of justice. Now let's compare what her standards to
00:57:53.020
what she did. Cheney did communicate with a witness. Didn't just try, did, and even acknowledge
00:57:59.020
that it was at least unethical to do so. Oh my God. After their communication did change their
00:58:05.820
testimony. And according to Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney
00:58:12.440
and that Liz Cheney did help her find a new one. And then Liz Cheney did try to have
00:58:18.700
Stefan Passantino, who was her first attorney, tried to get him disbarred and basically tried
00:58:23.700
to ruin his life. Oh, now just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness.
00:58:31.040
He should be investigated versus what she actually did. And we have it documented that she did these
00:58:37.360
things. This is why we're recommending the department of justice investigate her for witness
00:58:42.540
tampering. It's not tit for tat. I'm just saying if she laid the standard that just trying to make a
00:58:48.360
phone call as witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.
00:58:52.820
If honestly, I said this during the Trump, uh, uh, you know, impeachment hearings, when they filed
00:58:58.460
those, I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth. The same thing with COVID.
00:59:05.540
I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, the six or eight months into it,
00:59:11.760
we did an honest investigation. And I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may
00:59:17.700
just seek the truth. And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to
00:59:25.980
jail either side. If you were at January 6th and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing
00:59:33.120
through the windows, you know, and, and, you know, hitting police officers, et cetera. Yep.
00:59:39.300
Probably you should go to jail. Uh, you should be have a fair trial, but you should go to jail,
00:59:44.660
but not the innocent. And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty
00:59:51.980
look innocent should also go to jail. Barry, I've got one more question. Do you have time to hang for
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Congressman Barry Loudermilk is, uh, with us now. Congressman, um, I, I'd like to know how engaged
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is Cash Battelle in this? Are you briefing him? Is that coming? Has he been involved in any of this
01:01:59.340
along the way of knowing where the bodies are buried or does he have to start January 20th?
01:02:07.140
No, he's been following the work we've been doing. We haven't had direct communications until recently.
01:02:12.860
Um, and one of the reasons is when I took this on, uh, when then speaker McCarthy asked me to
01:02:17.960
take on this project, I told him I would do it under two conditions. One, you give me the resources
01:02:22.040
to conduct a real investigation, not a politically driven one. And that I would do it from an unbiased
01:02:27.720
standpoint. Just as you were saying earlier, if people did it bad, right. Regardless of which
01:02:32.740
political side they're on, we'll report it. Um, I just going to get to the truth. And so we didn't
01:02:38.300
want to have any collusion in any other area, but as truth started coming out and, and especially
01:02:44.140
after the election and just leading up to it, uh, Cash had been engaged with, uh, us as far as the
01:02:50.380
reports we're sending out and asking some questions. So, um, he has been following our work very closely,
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as I know, um, the Mar-a-Lago has recently and, uh, uh, getting geared up. Cause I think there may
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be that they're, they're very interested to make sure that justice is done equally.
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Let me ask you, Congressman in, in your report, you say that there was information that was withheld
01:03:10.920
from Liz Cheney and her committee's final report. In addition to the fact that there was a terabyte
01:03:16.440
of data that was somehow deleted. It was just expunged from existence. Do you know what a,
01:03:24.340
what information was withheld from that final report that would have painted a very different
01:03:27.740
picture? And do you have any way of accessing the deleted data? Well, to answer the second
01:03:33.080
question, well, the, the question about what was missing, yes, we know what was missing and it's,
01:03:37.740
we're releasing it publicly. Um, just to give you an example, it was any, uh, witness testimonies
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that exonerated Trump or line up with Cassidy Hutchinson. So for instance, um, Cassidy in her
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first test, fourth test testimony comes up with these elaborate stories, like the Trump trying to
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take this, the steering wheel of the, uh, the SUV. Um, as soon as she said that within days, they had
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that emergency televised hearing where they created her in front of the entire world. And she told these
01:04:10.000
stories, they took no effort to corroborate those stories. All you had to do was subpoena the secret
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service driver and ask him these questions, which they did after the midterm elections months later.
01:04:22.900
So when they finally called the secret service agent in to testify, they never even asked him about
01:04:29.360
this, this incident. He had to insert it himself. And they tried to stop him from saying it
01:04:34.680
to kangaroo court. And everybody else's testimony that was different than hers. Those testimonies
01:04:42.940
were sent away. As far as deleted documents, we know that they got rid of all the videotapes of
01:04:49.080
all the testimonies. Um, and some of those could have exonerated like, uh, Stefan Pasantino.
01:04:55.980
Unbelievable. Uh, Congressman, thank you for the hard work that you guys are doing on this. Thanks
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uh, of the made up part of Christmas, uh, St. Nicholas, St. Nicholas is actually real, but Santa.
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And I tried, I didn't want to be the, you know, you can't talk about Santa kids. It's Christmas. I
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it's really my best effort, uh, to try to make sense of this time of the year, but there are so
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and one of that is the, the three wise men, what were they doing leading up to the birth of the child?
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Um, you know, who were they, when did they actually arrive? Cause I wanted in Bethlehem.
01:08:22.860
Um, and so we have Dr. Wave Nunnally. He is, uh, even, uh, Evangel, uh, university professor. Is
01:08:30.680
that how you say it? Evangel? Uh, of early Judaism. Go ahead. Yes. Evangel University.
01:08:38.520
Evangel University. And are, are you Jewish or are you Christian? I am not Jewish. I am Christian.
01:08:45.400
Okay. Um, and you've, you're over in Israel, right? I have been recently, but am, uh, now, uh, happily
01:08:56.000
at home here in the United States. Okay. Um, so, so you know, really the real history of what that was
01:09:05.520
like back in that time, who were the wise men and why are they important and what were they doing?
01:09:11.840
Um, so the wise men are important, but they actually, Glenn, they don't show up at the birth
01:09:19.780
of Jesus. Right. According to Matthew chapter two, verse 16, we're told that Herod killed the babies
01:09:26.420
two years old and under, according to the time that he had ascertained from the wise men. And so
01:09:32.680
these guys are actually getting on the scene at least a year and a half up to two years after the
01:09:39.600
birth. Um, and so really the, the only true birth narrative that we have is in the gospel of Luke
01:09:46.920
rather than Matthew. Right. And so the, the wise men, how did they know each other? What were they
01:09:54.640
doing? Were they were Kings? What did that even mean back then? Yeah, very good question. Um, and the
01:10:04.200
reason for me is because so many people, uh, see them, the Greek word is Magoi. Uh, it's where we get
01:10:11.760
the word magistrate or magnificent or magnanimous, M-A-G. And, uh, it basically in Greek and in the
01:10:20.100
classical Greek authors, they're using that for very important people. But for whatever reason,
01:10:26.480
modern scholars have turned them into sorcerers, astrologers, diviners, and that kind of thing.
01:10:33.040
And it really throws people for a loop because, um, a, what do sorcerers, diviners, and astrologers
01:10:39.500
do at the birth of Jesus? And then why do we never hear about them repenting and renouncing
01:10:46.520
the black arts and then embrace Jesus as the true way? So who were they actually?
01:10:53.420
Well, uh, there is a use of that word, um, Magoi, uh, Magi, uh, for Persian, Persian astrologers,
01:11:03.800
but there's also a version of that word that says, these are really great men, you know, like
01:11:09.100
magnificent, uh, they're great men or they're very important men. I wrote, um, part of a book
01:11:16.640
back in 2004, um, that, uh, where I suggested that these guys were more than likely members
01:11:25.520
of the Jewish community in Babylon and that they were following, uh, not just astrology,
01:11:31.940
they were following a Bible passage, Numbers chapter 24, verse 17, that says that a star is
01:11:39.120
going to arise from Jacob and a scepter from Israel, scepter meaning rule. And so they're,
01:11:45.960
they're looking for the new development in their Judaism. Possibly they could have been, uh,
01:11:52.660
representatives of the huge Jewish community that was in Babylon were coming to Jerusalem to try to
01:12:01.840
get their heads around. What is this new development in the history of redemption?
01:12:06.880
Professor, I have a question. This is Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in for Sue today.
01:12:11.840
You, you, you say that there's not necessarily historical substantiation for the fact that the
01:12:17.800
three wise men were astrologers. I find that fascinating because just like any part of history,
01:12:23.160
the left likes to try to rewrite Christian history. Do you know when that narrative that the three wise
01:12:29.280
men were sorcerers or into the dark arts, when did that emerge in, in that narrative emerge in history?
01:12:34.620
It's actually beginning in the, uh, second and third centuries A.D. Uh, the early, early church
01:12:42.860
fathers, kind of like the disciples of the disciples, um, the apostles, they're, they're beginning to
01:12:50.340
suggest this as early as, you know, a hundred, two hundred years after the time of Jesus. So it's
01:12:56.480
really a long, uh, it's has a, it's has a long standing history as one approach to trying to
01:13:03.580
understand who these people were, by the way, there probably weren't three of them. Um, that also shows
01:13:09.480
up not in the new Testament, but in much later writings. And more than likely there were lots of
01:13:15.640
them because a, you don't travel in small groups, especially the, the kind of journey that those guys
01:13:22.400
had to take, uh, over a thousand miles, uh, to get to, uh, the land of Israel and a, across a desert
01:13:31.000
on the trade route at a time when there was, um, a, uh, sort of like a cold war going on between
01:13:38.300
the empire of Rome and the empire of Parthia. And then you have all kinds of highwaymen that could
01:13:45.000
have done them harm. Uh, so you don't travel as, as a small group. It was more than likely a dozen
01:13:52.080
or more, maybe, maybe dozens who were traveling and they got the attention of Herod the great
01:13:58.720
immediately because these people, these two different empire home and Parthia were in a stalemate
01:14:06.420
in their, um, war against one another. And these guys show up speaking a different language,
01:14:12.660
dressed differently. And they're asking a question that bugs the heck out of him. And that is,
01:14:18.080
where is he who has been born, not appointed by Rome, like Herod the great was, but born King of the
01:14:24.280
Jews. Wow. So let, let me go back to the beginning here with, um, Joseph and, uh, Mary, what do we,
01:14:33.860
what do we get wrong or what do we not know about who they were?
01:14:39.700
Joseph and Mary, I think in, uh, Christian tradition have got kind of been idealized to
01:14:47.680
the point that when you see them in pictures, they have halos and, you know, they're just like,
01:14:53.040
um, uh, super, um, super duper people that are perfect and the like, but they're normal people
01:15:02.480
like you and me and the things that the Bible does tell us and, uh, about Mary and Joseph,
01:15:08.700
uh, we tend to kind of look over because our idealized picture is so wonderful and beautiful,
01:15:15.000
but, um, we get in Matthew 2, verse 19, Joseph is described as a person who is dikaios.
01:15:23.700
It's a Greek word that means righteous, but you put that back into Hebrew. He was a righteous person.
01:15:29.860
How do you say that in Hebrew? He was a tzaddik and this puts him in a, in an elite category already
01:15:36.540
in his world, in his culture that says that he goes above and beyond what God expects.
01:15:43.740
And he is very well versed in the Bible and he is very much Torah observant.
01:15:49.740
So how, so how, when his wife says to him, by the way, I'm pregnant, if he's really, really devout,
01:15:59.260
that's gotta be a hard one to swallow right off the bat.
01:16:03.560
Yeah, it really is because not in, not in the law of Moses, but in the law of laws of the rabbis,
01:16:10.240
he's got to split a hair between two opposing requirements. One is you never put a fellow
01:16:20.020
Israelite open to shame. It's, it's, it's, it's all but murder. And people who do that go to hell
01:16:27.900
and have no chance of, of redemption. The other side of it is though, that the rabbis required that
01:16:34.480
if you were in a state of betrothal and your wife became pregnant by one of your friends,
01:16:40.400
then you were required to divorce her. So what does Joseph do? He splits that hair perfectly and
01:16:47.800
he decides to divorce her privately. It's right there in the Bible. And it's absolutely amazing
01:16:54.960
how textured this narrative is, how closely connected it is to the, the Judaism of the land of Israel in
01:17:02.740
the first century. Doesn't this give you also, um, a different look at, you know, people who say,
01:17:09.460
ah, the Christmas story or the, you know, the birth and everything, it's not real. Um, we know that,
01:17:16.260
um, we, we know that the, uh, apostles were Jews and it was supposed to go to the Gentiles,
01:17:23.320
but it was also supposed to go to the Jews as well. And this would have been a death sentence,
01:17:28.880
uh, for the story right off the bat that they were betrothed. Uh, she was pregnant and that's,
01:17:37.280
that's the Godhead, the baby, the result. Wouldn't that just be, I mean, that would be horrible to say
01:17:45.160
in that society, right? It is a, it is a very difficult situation that these people find themselves
01:17:52.040
in. Maybe that's the reason God chose such incredibly well-prepared people for the, for the
01:17:58.860
task. Um, you ask about Mary. Mary was a person who's described as a favored one by Gabriel. She's
01:18:07.000
a virgin and, you know, that's important in that culture. Uh, she had kept her, uh, integrity. Um,
01:18:13.660
it also calls her, she calls herself a bond slave or a bond servant of the Lord twice. And she's,
01:18:21.320
she quotes scripture by heart and she goes above and beyond like Joseph, the requirements of the
01:18:28.260
Torah, because they went according to the gospel of Luke, um, uh, chapter, uh, two verse 41,
01:18:36.800
every Passover, she went from Galilee to Jerusalem and women were not required to keep that law men.
01:18:45.760
Yes, but women know. And so you've got both of these people, they're sold out. They're in this
01:18:50.960
all the way, 100%. And, um, that's one of the, I think those are among the reasons why God picked
01:18:58.860
those people as opposed to maybe some less committed folks. We're talking to wave note,
01:19:03.740
not only, um, about, uh, the Christmas story. And, uh, if you'll hang on just a couple of minutes,
01:19:08.640
I have, uh, I want to know about the tax thing because you'll learn historians will tell you they
01:19:14.880
didn't tax like that. That didn't happen. There was no reason. That's just the, that's just the
01:19:18.920
writers of the Bible trying to get them to Bethlehem. Um, and I'd love to hear your work on
01:19:24.480
that and what your knowledge on that, uh, about the taxes. We'll get to that here in just a second.
01:19:29.540
First, let me tell you about Lear Capital. Listen, I want you to imagine on a national scale for a
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01:19:45.820
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01:19:52.180
bank all the time and they're lending you money. How long does that last? Well, I don't know,
01:19:58.200
usually not long, but if you're in United States government, it lasts for a while, but it eventually
01:20:02.740
comes apart. We are $36 trillion in debt now and our $2 trillion deficit that comes from this year
01:20:11.720
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01:20:17.980
got, uh, uh, business promise from Japan, which is nice. A hundred billion dollars to come in and
01:20:23.580
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01:20:30.060
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01:20:35.880
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01:21:02.060
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01:21:05.360
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01:21:10.660
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01:21:27.780
You're listening to the swinging sounds of Glenn Beck. Sit tight, boys and girls. We'll be right
01:21:35.560
We're with, um, Evangel University professor of early Judaism, Dr. Wave Nunnally. Um,
01:22:02.560
doctor, the, the idea that they had to go to Bethlehem to register for the tax. I've heard
01:22:10.260
from so many scholars that didn't happen. Did that happen?
01:22:12.980
I believe that it did, Glenn. We have, um, evidence from a first century Jewish author
01:22:20.720
named Josephus Flavius, and he records, uh, census activity taking place in the Eastern
01:22:28.340
Mediterranean at this very time. There are some, uh, some small differences between his account
01:22:33.720
and Luke's account of the census, but we've definitely got census activity going on. And
01:22:38.740
there's a reason for it. Augustus Caesar had embarked on this thing called the Pax Romana,
01:22:43.940
the Roman imposed peace. And he's building the first set of interstate highways all over the
01:22:49.880
world to deploy his troops. And he's trying to rid the Mediterranean of piracy. And for all of those
01:22:55.140
kinds of things, building projects, et cetera, he's got to have money. And so he's raising it wherever
01:23:00.840
It's amazing. Um, it's always good to talk to people who actually know, and have spent their
01:23:06.600
life studying this. Thank you so much, doctor. I appreciate it.
01:23:10.180
Hey, you're very welcome. I'm just, I want to congratulate you on taking on the topic and
01:23:16.000
sticking to the facts. Can I tell you a super quick story?
01:23:21.040
Real quick. Um, I was in Israel as I often am in teaching a study group and we were at the church
01:23:27.980
of the annunciation in Nazareth. And this lady said, look, after you've taken away all the myth
01:23:34.360
and all the legend and no Christmas trees and no tiny Tim and no little drummer boy corner,
01:23:40.000
what do you, um, uh, what do you, what are you left with? And the answer was from another person
01:23:46.120
in the group was, I guess just Jesus. And that's what Christmas really is about.
01:23:50.600
Uh, it is, it is. Thank you. Dr. Wave Nunnally. Uh, you can find him at wavenunnally.com.
01:24:20.600
Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
01:24:51.260
Hello America. It's the Glenn Beck Program. Filling in for Stu is Liz Wheeler from the Liz
01:24:57.420
Wheeler Show. Clever title. It's almost not as good as the Glenn Beck Program. You see what
01:25:05.200
we did there? We changed show to program. Anyway, Liz Wheeler Show, you can hear it on Blaze TV
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either, uh, and watch it on Blaze TV or on her YouTube channel. Uh, and she has been of great
01:25:18.420
help. Really smart. I mean, not as smart as all of us, me not included, but she's great. And we're
01:25:27.800
going to talk to her some more about, uh, what's going on in the world here in just a second. But we
01:25:32.260
also have the story, you know, the movie, a Christmas story originally written by radio legend,
01:25:38.640
Gene Shepard. It apparently has all kinds of hidden Easter egg kind of parables in it. We know
01:25:47.360
because the guy who used to teach storytelling with Gene Shepard is on with us. And we're going
01:25:55.340
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I am, uh, so excited for this. Uh, Quentin Schultz, uh, is, uh, with us. He's Calvin University
01:27:37.500
professor of communications. I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally
01:27:45.800
well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication, but this
01:27:51.380
guy we're having on, he is, uh, not only emeritus professor of communications, he's teached, he
01:27:58.980
taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller
01:28:06.500
ever on radio. Welcome Quentin. How are you? Wow. Thanks so much, Glenn. You know that, that
01:28:12.200
was the thing. I was a new professor of communication and generally professor with a PhD means
01:28:17.560
piled higher and deeper. And so in this case, I thought, you know, storytelling is the most
01:28:24.880
potent form of human expression. No question about it. And I thought, uh, who out there is
01:28:30.860
the best storyteller that I could learn from firsthand, because that's the way you really
01:28:34.620
learn. I looked at the textbooks and I'll forget it. And I had known of Gene Shepard.
01:28:39.180
We shared a hobby called ham radio. I listened to him on WR radio for years. And so I looked
01:28:45.940
up his call letters and his home address through the FCC directory. And I said, uh, dear Mr.
01:28:52.660
Shepard, I'm a wet behind the ears communication professor. And I want to learn storytelling.
01:28:58.800
Would you teach me? And lo and behold, he wrote back. He couldn't believe that a professor was
01:29:04.480
actually going to him. You know, most professors are not humble enough to ask other people.
01:29:08.400
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he said, yeah, let's do it. So we began corresponding and all.
01:29:13.460
And then I, uh, I invited him to teach with me. And as far as I know, except for the director of
01:29:19.960
a Christmas story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing,
01:29:26.360
how he told stories and what he was doing in the movie, a Christmas story. He wrote the script for it.
01:29:32.600
And let me just tell you, Glenn, what he taught me absolutely blew my mind. It revolutionized my
01:29:38.880
teaching. It revolutionized my relationships with people to be able to tell stories really well.
01:29:44.560
And, uh, it was, it was stunning. And the number one thing I learned from him is that every one of
01:29:49.720
his stories is a parable, a parable. In other words, it works on two levels. There's the entertainment
01:29:55.980
level. And you say, that's a funny story. Look at that guy with his leg lamp there. Oh,
01:30:00.480
you know, but then I'm in the meet, I'm talking to Gene and I said, Gene, what about that leg lamp
01:30:06.820
thing, man? What about it? I just don't quite get that one. It's a parable. Come on. What are
01:30:11.940
you talking about, man? He says, Quinn, that leg lamp is a trophy wife. I said, what? He said,
01:30:20.820
yeah, it's a trophy wife. The old man falls in love with, becomes obsessed with that leg lamp that he
01:30:27.340
pulls out of the carton that arrives. And, uh, right away he's smitten by it. He's in love. And,
01:30:35.400
and, and he said, he wants to go put it in the front window for what reason? Turn on the neighborhood.
01:30:42.180
And, uh, so Gene explained to me that in his worldview, guys are incurably romantic toward
01:30:50.240
women or secondarily other things could be cars, could be rifles, could be other technology.
01:30:59.220
And, uh, they fall in love and they get so smitten by these other things that it interferes
01:31:03.980
with their relationships. So mom knew when she saw what was going on with the old man and that leg
01:31:10.940
lamp, that she was going to have to do something. She was going to have to get this Glenn and the
01:31:16.360
affair by breaking the lamp, which she did. So the whole movie, a Christmas story is filled with
01:31:24.620
these parables. And that one is number two in my book of 20 parables, which is called
01:31:29.640
curtail your obsessions. And it applies, especially to men. Unbelievable.
01:31:35.680
You're so good, professor. This is Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in for Stu today. Um, when we were talking
01:31:41.560
about having you on right before the program, I was like, Oh, he, he styles himself as a storyteller.
01:31:45.900
Please. I'm waiting to be impressed. I was, um, engrossed in your story. Tell me. So that's
01:31:50.780
number two on the list. What's number one. I, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I
01:31:55.080
love when there's hidden messages and parables and Easter eggs and stories. What are some other ones?
01:32:00.640
Yeah. One of my favorites is what I call tackle your technology. Now, Gene Shepard believed that
01:32:09.120
human beings, particularly men create technologies, but they can never fully control what they create.
01:32:16.480
So the technologies always get out of hand and things happen that were unexpected and they
01:32:20.880
break down. And, you know, he and I shared this hobby ham radio. So we would talk about our, our
01:32:26.300
rigs as we call them going bad, but he's got this wonderful thing in the movie with the furnace
01:32:31.680
downstairs. So, uh, the old man is sitting there, you know, enjoying at the kitchen table where the
01:32:38.720
family really happens. Their relationships happen at that table. And he's listening, listening,
01:32:43.720
listening. All of a sudden he hears clink, clink, clink. And he yells clinker. And he takes
01:32:51.000
off, puts his gloves on down the stairs to try to fix that furnace. Now clinkers were pieces of
01:32:57.260
coal that would not burn fully. And they were still hard and they would fall to the bottom of the
01:33:01.800
furnace furnace and go clink, clink, clink. And they were really frustrating. And so he periodically has
01:33:08.020
to go down there to, to, uh, try to fix the furnace. Well, and I'm talking to Gene Shepard,
01:33:13.900
the screenwriter of a Christmas story about this. He says to me, Quinn, that's my nickname, Quinn. He
01:33:18.440
says, you know, that the old man runs down the stairs because he's headed toward hell. I said,
01:33:25.580
what? He said, yeah, he's going down to the seventh level of Dante's inferno, where with all the soot
01:33:33.220
and all the heat and smoke and everything else, he's going to stare face to face with that demon
01:33:40.160
of a furnace. And he is not going to win the battle. He said to me, that's the way all technologies
01:33:46.680
are. Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought. We get into trouble.
01:33:51.340
And the more I thought about that, I thought, man, he's, he's brilliant. Uh, another part of
01:33:56.840
that in, in the movie is the car. The old man has this 1937 old touring sedan. Right. And that
01:34:04.380
sucker would freeze up at the equator in the middle of the summer. He says, so he's always running
01:34:10.440
outside in the middle of winter to pour hot water on it to try to get it going. Uh, and of course he
01:34:16.540
has problems with plugging in the Christmas tree and plugging in the leg lamp. He's blowing fuses all
01:34:22.060
the time, although he could replace those fuses faster than a jackrabbit on a date. That's another
01:34:27.200
story. And, um, so, so, uh, uh, my, uh, my favorite, uh, my favorite life lesson from the movie,
01:34:37.040
a Christmas story really is it comes to the fore at the end. And Bob Clark was such a great director.
01:34:44.280
And, uh, so there are two scenes at the end, these scenes of reconciliation and peace. One is where
01:34:51.180
the old man and mom are together in the, at the end of the day on Christmas, mom turns the light
01:34:58.060
off and the two of them sit down together and, uh, they're, they're touching each other. They're
01:35:03.800
reconciling. I mean, they've been battling over the leg lamp, really the affair that's going on there.
01:35:09.000
And so they, they're reconciling and they're looking out through the window, which is the
01:35:13.340
same window that the leg lamp was in. Right. And you see the snow falling down. Uh, by the way,
01:35:18.820
that wasn't really snow. Those were potato flakes being thrown from the roof because there was no
01:35:24.820
snow. But, uh, what's interesting about this also is the gene, uh, pulled on a lot of biblical themes
01:35:30.700
and the leg lamp gets placed among the plants because Jean said to me that those plants are
01:35:38.080
mom's garden of Eden, that she waters and likes to keep going and keep them green and vibrant.
01:35:43.800
So when the old man takes this tawdry, ugly, humanly concocted leg lamp and puts it right in
01:35:50.540
the middle of the garden of Eden. And of course the leg lamp itself represents sin in a way,
01:35:55.340
because it's an affair obsession. He has, she knows he has to break it. So when they're on the
01:36:00.320
sofa together, looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside
01:36:04.960
without the leg lamp there. And, um, and, and you can give thanks that they have reconciled.
01:36:11.380
It's just so wonderful. Wow. Um, anything behind the shoot your eye out? Oh yeah. In fact, the,
01:36:19.280
I titled my book, you'll shoot your eye out because it's the most searched term related to the movie,
01:36:26.360
a Christmas story. Of course it, Ralph, he's trying to get the rifle. He goes,
01:36:30.320
goes to his mom, that's not going to work. He goes to Ms. Shields, his teacher, and she writes
01:36:33.960
on his theme. But yeah, she'll shoot your eye out. Then he goes to Santa and, uh, gets into trouble
01:36:40.220
with Santa at the top of the mountain. By the way, that mountain that he climbs up to, to, uh, pitch
01:36:46.420
Santa, his last resort. Remember, it's his last resort. Uh, that, that mountain, Gene said to me,
01:36:53.660
is like going up to petition God, uh, or on Christmas, you get a lot of kids and they believe
01:37:00.640
that they can somehow petition Santa and get what they want. And Ralph, he doesn't really believe it,
01:37:06.380
but he's going to give it a try. And so he's going to go up there. And then of course he gets, uh,
01:37:10.520
kind of pushed with Santa's black boot down the, the, the, uh, the slide, which they got from a,
01:37:18.920
a swimming pool company. And, uh, and Santa says, you'll shoot your eye out kid. So Gene said to me
01:37:27.560
repeatedly that if there's one big lesson in life to really be careful about, it's our lack of humility
01:37:35.300
as human beings, we do things that cause trouble for ourselves. Like we would say, you know, you put
01:37:41.960
your, put in your mouth and, and so he used that term, you'll shoot your eye out as a way of getting
01:37:49.100
at this. We have to be more humble and be careful and watch out for what we do in life. So it really,
01:37:55.360
that runs throughout the movie in many ways, man, you should do a commentary on the, uh, on the movie.
01:38:03.800
I'd love to watch the movie with you doing comic. Maybe you just come to my house for Christmas as
01:38:08.420
we watch it because it's unbelievable. Yeah. What's interesting is that, uh, I had all these
01:38:13.440
notes and all from teaching with Gene. He died in 99 and I thought maybe someday I'd write a book
01:38:18.880
about storytelling and him, uh, and the movie, when it came out in 83, yeah, did not really do well.
01:38:26.260
Right. And, uh, and so I thought, well, why write a book if the movie is not going to do well? And
01:38:30.640
every year it sells more and more copies and, and people, more people see it 40 to 50 million
01:38:36.160
in the U S alone, see it every year. And so finally, my wife said to me last year,
01:38:40.340
stop just talking about it and entertaining people at dinner. You got to write the book.
01:38:45.700
So that's what I did, Glenn. Wow. She must be tired of this story. Cause I know my wife's tired
01:38:50.440
of all my stories. Um, all right. Um, Quentin, hang on just a second. I got to take a one minute
01:38:56.820
break. We'll come back. Uh, the name of the book, uh, is, uh, you'll shoot your eye out.
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You're shoot your eye out. It's not just the parables behind it. It's mainly that, but also
01:39:09.080
he goes into storytelling. And as you can tell, he's a very good storyteller. Um, but he learned
01:39:14.060
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You'll shoot your eye out life lessons from the movie, a Christmas story, uh, that was released
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over the summer. Kind of a bad time to release that book, Quentin. Um, but, uh, but it's great
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now. It is great now. Um, I, I want to know the, is there an overall theme? Is there something that
01:41:44.380
he was trying to get at in the overall movie that well, the way I would put that Glenn is that he
01:41:54.160
wanted to reflect back to us, the drama, the everyday drama of life, the good and the bad,
01:42:02.640
the ups and the downs, uh, but then end with some grace, some hope. And so that's how he framed it.
01:42:11.240
But that was really his, his worldview was that human beings get themselves into all kinds of
01:42:17.680
trouble, but often we get out of it in spite of ourselves. Right. And, and so that's what
01:42:23.800
happens. So there are various kinds of redemption and all in it. Even the old man who salivating for
01:42:30.160
that turkey, he just has to have that turkey. And, and then when the bumpus hounds come over
01:42:35.760
and the bumpus hounds, that's another whole part of it. But when they come over and snatch the
01:42:40.820
turkey and the old man is left standing there holding the wing and you wonder, is he going to
01:42:45.280
eat it or what's he going to do? And he drops it. And he says, all right, everybody get upstairs,
01:42:50.700
get dressed. We are going out to eat. And they go to Boling's B O W L I N G, but the W is out on the
01:43:00.140
sign. So it's Boling's Chinese restaurant. And Gene said to me that what he was trying to get at
01:43:07.740
there is the fact that we have to be flexible in life. And he used to tell me that being in the
01:43:13.880
entertainment business that he was in many different media, you had to be flexible because
01:43:19.020
opportunities would open and close. But he said, that's the way life is. And so he wanted toward
01:43:24.660
the end of the movie to show that the old man could be flexible and for the benefit of the
01:43:29.460
family. And so they had a great time at the Asian restaurant together. And by the way, if people
01:43:36.580
don't know, Gene Shepard not only wrote the screenplay, but that's his voice that is doing
01:43:41.820
the voice over. It's the older Ralphie. And Gene had such a good voice and he knew how to deliver
01:43:49.680
these lines in a way that it really makes the movie sing. So Quentin, one last question. We're
01:43:57.180
up against a network break. Let me ask you if there was, which came first with him, the parable
01:44:05.060
or the story? Yeah. Did he make a list of the parables and then say, I'm going to craft a story
01:44:11.880
or did he craft a story and then put the parables in? Yeah, it's a great question. In fact, I've never
01:44:16.700
been asked that question before. And if a student had asked that, I'd say, hey, you're on the way to
01:44:20.480
at least a C plus, you know. That's what Ralphie gets. By the way, that's what Gene got in his
01:44:28.340
college creative writing class. He got a C plus. Wow. Yeah. So the way Gene operated, he'd look
01:44:35.300
around the world, observe the world, see what was going on, make notes about things, find interesting
01:44:40.260
things going on. And he'd say, well, what's the principle behind that? And then he would come up
01:44:46.200
with some principle, like men are incurably romantic and women are practical and rational.
01:44:51.980
And then he would start to build the stories around those life lessons that he observed.
01:44:58.880
I got to tell you, are you still teaching, aren't you?
01:45:02.540
Part time here and there. Well, I would love to take a class from you. You have a lot to teach.
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You're the first communications professor I've ever talked to that I think
01:45:12.900
it boiled it down to the right things. It's all about story. Quentin, thank you so much.
01:45:20.760
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Welcome to the, uh, Glenn Beck program. Uh, holy cow. Uh, you want real, uh, you want real,
01:47:30.440
real disruption. Uh, there is a new suggestion on who should be the house speaker when Trump gets
01:47:40.460
into office. Liz Wheeler is here. Liz. This is from Senator Rand Paul. He posted on X this morning.
01:47:47.880
This was at 6 30 AM. He says the speaker of the house need not be a member of Congress.
01:47:53.400
Nothing would disrupt the swamp more than electing Elon Musk. Think about it. Nothing's impossible.
01:47:58.920
Not to mention the joy at seeing the collective establishment, AKA Uniparty, lose their ever
01:48:05.340
loving minds. You imagine that? I mean, he's not going to do it. I mean, well, he might. He seems
01:48:11.980
to have time. Uh, I kind of think he would, if he was asked, if it was a serious thing, I bet he would.
01:48:17.900
Wouldn't that be amazing? Would that, would that be, yeah, it would be. It would be so disruptive.
01:48:24.840
It would be a great thing. It would also be the most effective Congress probably in our lifetimes
01:48:30.840
because Elon, I mean, think about the effort that he made during the campaign and the effort that he
01:48:35.860
made during this spending bill. I mean, he had a huge impact, not only just by giving us X as a
01:48:41.360
platform, but him speaking out and saying, no, we're, we should end this deal. This is criminal.
01:48:45.120
This is awful. I mean, imagine saying that to like Adam Schiff, you know? Oh, and you know how
01:48:52.060
little Adam Schiff would feel standing with Elon Musk in a room. Um, the, uh, I've always said we,
01:49:00.820
we need business people running the country that understand business, that they understand the
01:49:08.260
ethics and the principles behind the declaration and constitution, but we need business. We don't
01:49:13.460
need more lawyers. If you've ever worked for a firm outside of an attorney firm that's run by
01:49:19.160
lawyers, you know what a nightmare it is and you're never going to accomplish anything because they're
01:49:24.960
there to say no. Now the opposite, it's weird in Washington. They're there to just say yes to
01:49:30.960
everything, but we need business people. Look at who we have involved in this government. Now,
01:49:36.520
Donald Trump known as a, uh, uh, the American businessman and, uh, and Elon Musk, who is like
01:49:46.480
a businessman out of, I don't know, a science fiction book. It's unbelievable. I'd love to have
01:49:54.140
him. Think about how he would act on the floor of the house. Instead of taking six months to get a
01:49:59.800
committee together to stage an investigation, he would just stream on acts and be like, Nancy Pelosi,
01:50:03.740
how, how, how do you accomplish all your insider trading? And do you think that that's moral to
01:50:08.080
absolutely steal from the American people? And he would, that's exactly the question he would
01:50:12.600
ask. He would just cut. He, what does, what does he say now? You are the media. Yeah. You are the
01:50:16.860
media. It's true. We need to, we need to apply that principle to Congress because now we think of
01:50:21.860
Congress as a separate entity, but actually you are Congress. Um, actually I hope, I hope it's actually
01:50:29.120
proposed that would be fun. Uh, lots and lots of fun. Um, I want to take your mind here for just a
01:50:34.480
second to, uh, Minnesota. And I'm, I'm saying, I just want to take your mind there. Don't, don't
01:50:40.060
ever think, I mean, what Minnesota, why would you go anyway? Um, uh, Minnesota in their state capital,
01:50:47.240
they've always had the Christmas tree and then they added the menorah. Oh, well, you can't add,
01:50:52.420
you know, two global religions without, without adding Satan. Right. Am I right? So the state of
01:51:02.680
Minnesota allowed the Satanists to put up a Phoenix coming from the ashes, uh, and there are all their
01:51:12.400
satanic symbols in, in the rotunda of the state capital with the Christmas tree and the menorah.
01:51:20.160
It is, it's unbelievable. This is the problem with the modern Republican party is they've bought
01:51:27.320
into this idea of neutrality and libertarianism. And they refuse to say that any belief or principle
01:51:34.660
is better than another. They only want this idea that like, Oh, okay, well you've chosen to worship
01:51:40.140
Satan and I've chosen to worship the true God. Our beliefs are equal. So we should have an equal
01:51:44.900
platform. No, that's never how our country was intended to be. It was, our country was always
01:51:50.000
intended to be governed along the idea that liberty is not the end in of itself. Liberty is the means
01:51:57.880
to virtue. Liberty is supposed to allow us to be an ordered civilization so that we can pursue God.
01:52:04.360
We should not allow Satanists. No. And you know, and first of all, the Satanists will tell you we're
01:52:09.900
not a religion. Well, if you're not a religion, then why are you in the rotunda? Cause that's,
01:52:15.000
that's, you know, Congress shall establish no law. So that, that doesn't, that doesn't really work.
01:52:21.140
Um, you are absolutely a religion, by the way. So is climate control. Absolutely. So is wokeism,
01:52:27.880
absolute religion. Um, and, uh, no, don't think it should be in there. Also, they're just stupid.
01:52:33.500
If they, if these so-called Satanists don't think that demons are real, like you might not realize
01:52:38.520
that you're worshiping demons, but that's what you're doing. Oh, I think they know. I think
01:52:43.580
they're probably pretty clear on that. Um, let me, uh, let me show you some, uh, uh, some footage now
01:52:49.860
from, uh, the local Minneapolis news on this. And Liz, I want to just get your live reaction here
01:52:57.640
and go ahead and roll. So religious symbols at our state Capitol are not a new thing. For years,
01:53:03.720
a Christmas tree has been installed in the rotunda. A menorah has been lit outside honoring
01:53:09.180
Christian and Jewish seasonal traditions. But this year, the display of a Phoenix sponsored by
01:53:15.680
the Minnesota Satanists joined the bunch. Stop. Can you freeze that, please? That's so mean to make
01:53:21.440
me react to that live. You can actually hear it in her voice before when she said Christmas tree,
01:53:28.420
religious symbols. Right. You can tell it makes her cringe. If you're watching the blaze right now,
01:53:35.260
you are seeing, uh, uh, Rachel Maddow's, yeah, Rachel Maddow's much butchier man-like sister.
01:53:47.820
Uh, she wearing brown velvet. Is that brown velvet? I don't. Brown corduroy? I, you probably
01:53:54.020
brown corduroy because that just screams liberal brown corduroy suit. Uh, and then these big glasses
01:54:00.980
and she just screech when she's on you. The only thing I could think of when I saw this was, hi,
01:54:08.660
I'm a liberal and I'm going to tell you the news from my liberal point of view. I mean, it would be
01:54:16.120
like having a guy dress up like uncle Sam and sit behind a news desk and give you the news. What do
01:54:23.080
you think he's going to say? Uh, that is one of the, forget about the Satanist thing. That was a
01:54:29.000
red herring to get this newscaster who I've never said. I mean, when people say, what do liberals look
01:54:37.740
like? Right there, right there. Am I wrong, Liz? No, you're not wrong. It shouldn't say breaking the
01:54:43.600
news. It should say it should say the unhappy news. Look at her. I actually feel a little bad for her
01:54:47.400
looking at her. Cause she doesn't, she seems like the idea of Christmas might be painful for her.
01:54:52.640
I don't, I, she looks, she looks angry. There's not a single diehard liberal that is happy.
01:55:00.460
They're not. No. I mean the diehard ones, they're not. You can be hippie, uh, or misguided or,
01:55:08.840
you know, stupid and be happy. But if you're really that deep progressive, there's no way you're happy.
01:55:16.200
There's not, it's not possible. Maybe a statue of her will be erected next year for the religion
01:55:21.260
of wokeism. She'll probably write into the show afterward and tell us, actually, I'm a conservative
01:55:25.660
guys. That's so mean. Yeah. I, I watch Yellowstone. So I understand the movement.
01:55:32.480
Uh, let's see. Uh, there's also a story, uh, from the New York times, uh, and it's a column by their
01:55:40.660
ethicist. Uh, it said, uh, it's a write in from somebody whose name was withheld. I have an 85
01:55:49.520
year old neighbor who is a sweet friend and a caring person. My issue is she's very religious
01:55:55.100
and I'm not at all. She prays for me and says it in person, text emails, uh, for even the most minor
01:56:03.020
situations. I've told her my view of religion and if she doesn't need to pray for me, she said she has
01:56:08.320
to, otherwise she's not following the Bible. I'm trying to ignore this, but it's really bothering
01:56:12.620
me that she can't respect my wishes. You know, if you're not religious at all, why does it,
01:56:20.840
but you just think this old lady is wasting her time talking to, you know, some sky, invisible sky
01:56:27.480
God that doesn't exist. Why would it bother you that she's thinking it could bother you? You're
01:56:33.120
like, she's just, she's just wasted her whole life, but you'd have empathy for her. Why does
01:56:40.540
it bother you? If people say they're praying for you, you'd think it would make this person feel
01:56:45.100
loved actually, because even if, uh, even if the non-religion person, non-religious person doesn't
01:56:49.680
believe in love, if you look at this old lady's worldview for a moment, she's trying to follow the
01:56:54.920
Bible, meaning living according to Jesus's teaching. God is love. She's trying to love her
01:57:00.020
literal neighbor here. Right, right, right. It's because agnostics aren't really agnostic, right?
01:57:05.600
No, I don't think so. I mean, I think, I think, uh, some are, uh, I think Penn Jillette said he was,
01:57:18.040
first he said he was an atheist and I think he's switched to agnostic. Um, but I think he's saying,
01:57:24.720
that out of, I'm not so arrogant to make a claim that I can't prove one way or another.
01:57:33.040
Well, he probably wouldn't be bothered by a neighbor praying for him then.
01:57:36.360
No, no, I actually, I talked to him one time and he said, isn't your church very into missionary
01:57:42.060
stuff? And I said, yeah. And he said, you know, we've been friends now for a couple of years and
01:57:47.840
you've never mentioned me coming to God. How's that working? He was actually kind of, he was like,
01:57:54.180
how is that working? I mean, if we're friends and you won't say that, and I was like, cause I know,
01:58:00.700
and then he went down the, Oh, so you are the mind of your God. You know that it, what I'm saying.
01:58:09.100
And I'm like, I was actually not, I was trying not to offend you. And he's like,
01:58:13.920
so you assume that I'd be offended that you loved me. You're like, this is why I knew we'd have this
01:58:22.760
conversation. Uh, uh, anyway, uh, the interest, it's interesting. The response from, uh, the New
01:58:30.140
York times, what would you think? How would they answer this woman in the New York times?
01:58:35.960
I mean, the New York times is not going to write an article five, 10 years down the road when this
01:58:43.860
non-religious person has converted, thanks to the prayers of her neighbor and saying, listen,
01:58:48.040
those prayers actually were effective. We're never going to see that from the New York times.
01:58:52.560
So here's what the New York times says. I'm glad that you've been honest with each other about your
01:58:57.620
very different views concerning prayer, but the stakes for each of you don't seem comparable.
01:59:03.060
If you don't think these prayers will do you any good, you presumably also don't think they'll do
01:59:09.300
you any harm. By contrast, she thinks that you'll be worse off without them and therefore is praying
01:59:16.360
for you. It is her duty. The only reason you give for objecting to her prayers is that she has failed
01:59:22.920
to comply with your wishes. Yet I don't find that she has been treating you with disrespect because I
01:59:29.760
don't see that you have the right to those wishes of yours to be complied with. You seem to be asking
01:59:37.280
her not to do something she thinks she has compelling reasons to do. I thought that was disrespectful.
01:59:46.420
So you're not entitled to insist that she stop including you in her prayers. What can you fairly ask?
01:59:52.900
It's simple that she refrained from informing you about them. Still, instead of requiring you that
01:59:59.560
your 80 year old neighbor change her ways, I wonder if you might be able to change yours and learn to
02:00:04.980
accept this woman for who she is, hearing her prayers as a sincere expression of her loving feeling
02:00:11.320
toward you. From the New York times. That's actually beautiful. I'll admit something to you. I didn't
02:00:18.740
read that because I don't pay for the New York times and this is paywalled. So you asked me to
02:00:22.660
read that before and I'm like, no, I can't because it's saying I have to pay for it. Here's the great
02:00:27.120
thing is I pay for it as a show expense. And so I write it off. And so I get, I pay less to the
02:00:35.900
government because of the New York times, which makes me happy. Yeah. I would not have expected that
02:00:43.440
from the New York times. That's actually a very well thought out response. And it is. I don't disagree
02:00:47.980
with it. I don't either. It's wise. Uh, that's, that's a first, I think at least in a long time,
02:00:54.780
Liz and I both have said, Oh, I agree with the New York times. Uh, so, um, look out one of the
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You know, uh, the old saying goes that, uh, sometimes wisdom comes right out of the mouth of babes. Well,
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I have to tell you that it also comes out of the mouth of really, really, really, really,
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really old people, but not in the case of Joe Biden. Cut one. You know, I don't know how
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you look your constituents in the eye and know because the job they gave you
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gave you an inside track to make more money. Huh? Oh, oh, oh, okay. So he'd like money to be
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gotten out of politics because he doesn't know how politicians can look people in the eye. Okay.
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Uh, now he also a little late, but on this one, uh, he realizes groceries might be a little expensive.
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One thing that we haven't been able to change yet is starting to change is that you go to a grocery
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store, a dozen eggs, a gallon of milk, a pound of bacon still costs more than it did before the
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pandemic. That's a lot of money for people. It's taken time to change that. So there's reason for
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frustration, but there's gigantic change we've made. Uh, to quote Steve Martin in planes, trains,
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and automobiles. Gee, do you think so? Congratulations, Mr. President. Liz, we'll see
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you tomorrow. Thank you so much. You can listen to Liz on her show, The Liz Wheeler Show on Blaze TV