On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by his good friend and former radio host, John Rocha. Glenn and John talk about the border crisis, the Democratic National Guard, and why we should have a civil war.
00:10:30.180But realize that Lincoln was also right.
00:10:32.700If we were to ever fall, the threat would come from inside.
00:10:35.960Right now, if we were in a scary movie, which sometimes I think we are, if we were starring in our scary movie,
00:10:43.520somebody would be in the Senate and you'd be in the House and somebody from the Senate would pick up the phone and it would ring in the House of Representatives.
00:12:55.280Now, we have to watch how all of this plays out.
00:13:01.020We have to, if you haven't signed up to work for your district, and you're not monitoring the election, you're not part of that system, then how are you going to complain?
00:13:16.460We all have to play a role in this to make sure that it is as safe as possible.
00:13:21.860But the founders, even if there was a chance that they could have voted the king out, even though it wouldn't have happened, but it could have, if they had representation, they would have taken that.
00:13:39.460If the election was happening in November, they would be very pessimistic about their chances, but they wouldn't have written the Declaration of Independence in July.
00:13:51.520So, let's stop with, again, have you been to the Balkans?
00:16:57.120She will not use a gun, and I'm like, you're on your own, man, because.
00:17:01.560No, so I got her and every member of the family a burner launcher.
00:17:08.040Burn a launcher just, it looks like a handgun, and you can get it in orange if you want it.
00:17:14.360I got mine in black, but I have been in situations where I could have killed a member of my own family had something just been slightly different, and there are people that have done this.
00:17:26.580And when you pull the trigger on your gun, you better make sure you're right.
00:17:31.680But if you have the chance to stop somebody at a distance, this is where the burner launcher comes in.
00:19:10.760I mean, what they said, basically, was, Texas, put up as much barbed wire as you want, but they get to cut it down for the next couple months.
00:19:20.260Texas is not stopping the feds from coming in and cutting the barbed wire.
00:43:30.400And we'll have a conversation about that in 60 seconds.
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00:46:23.340And I said, Jeff, at this point, a lot of people knew there was speculation I was going to run for Senate.
00:46:30.300And I said, if you're trying to talk me out of running for Senate, because I knew he had some friends who didn't want me to run for Senate, you know, I'm not going to entertain that.
00:46:39.500And he said, no, no, no, no, I just I got to come over.
00:46:41.800But I can't do it on the phone, what I have to talk to you about.
00:46:45.240And I just got a bad feeling about it.
00:46:47.400I thought, is there going to be a threat?
00:46:48.520What is why does he have to come to my door and talk to me?
00:46:52.020I know I would record that conversation.
00:47:50.740And that's what is so disturbing about it, that he thinks that his behavior has been so unethical that he thinks there's worse stuff out there.
00:47:58.340So you never said that you had more tapes to release.
00:48:30.600He's behaved in a way that he thinks there's I think that the response he said is there's more damaging video out there for damaging stuff out there.
00:48:38.820And I'm like, what what could be more damaging than 10 or 11 minutes?
00:48:56.940If that if this is illegal, they should be arrested.
00:49:00.520Anybody who was involved, if it wasn't illegal, it should be illegal.
00:49:04.000And I said, it's not just about this guy in Arizona.
00:49:08.400The most important thing to me was that a call came from back east and the way he said it, it was very knowing.
00:49:20.200Do you and you don't have to give any names, because if you do, you're you're going to you can get in trouble for slander or whatever, you know, unless you have something to back it up.
00:49:33.680Do you have a pretty good idea of who he meant by back east?
00:49:38.600I don't know. I mean, I've thought about it long and hard.
00:49:47.460The sad thing, though, Glenn, is you could sit there for hours and think about it and come up with a list of 300, 400, maybe 500 people or groups or organizations that it could be.
00:49:59.340And that it says a lot about the state of our government, the state of our political situation.
00:50:07.140You know, it could be so many different people shows you how corrupt Washington, D.C. is.
00:50:14.000OK, so is anybody has anybody reached out to you from back east to say, hey, we got to get to the bottom of this.
00:50:25.980No, nobody from the GOP. I've had I've had some great people reach out to me, senators who I think are fantastic and said, oh, my gosh.
00:50:34.020Yeah. You know, we can't wait to get you in the Senate.
00:50:36.400We need somebody who isn't bought and paid for and influenced.
00:50:40.140And you would think, Glenn, I mean, and I appreciate you for having me on.
00:50:43.060And we've had some great interviews already on this.
00:50:45.220But the mainstream media, by the way, I went public with this within 24 hours.
00:50:51.100I went public. I flew out of town, went to CPAC, changed my entire speech.
00:50:56.580And I just talked about this. I said, I just got bribed by a pretty big political person to stay out of politics.
00:51:03.480You know, basically offering me how much would it take to make you to stay out?
00:51:07.560And I brought my whole speech. I kind of wrapped around this.
00:51:10.820And mainstream media didn't reach out and say, who bribed you?
00:51:13.700Can I tell you something, Carrie? I mean, I've heard I've heard those things before.
00:51:18.440I've had things like this happen to me before and I've referenced them, but I didn't have a tape.
00:51:25.600Why did you not? Because I would have had you on the next day had I thought that you had proof of it.
00:51:33.740And maybe it was just me for just dropping the ball here.
00:51:37.000Why did you wait for the tape to be released or to say, I have a tape of it?
00:51:45.240Well, I didn't want to release anything and I also didn't listen to it.
00:51:49.660I taped it because I was afraid there was going to be a physical threat.
00:51:52.940And when there wasn't, I just kind of put that, you know, put that file away and never even dealt with it.
00:51:58.920But I felt that going public with it the next day or within 24 hours when I went on the CPAC stage and since then, again, this was 11 months ago.
00:52:07.560Oh, I know. I was there. I heard you and it didn't occur to me to ask you if you had evidence of it.
00:53:41.220I know that there is a big Senate fund and I'm not making any accusations.
00:53:46.560But I know there's a big Senate fund that is that the GOP has that is controlled by one individual who does have a pattern of supporting people that are not MAGA at any cost.
00:54:01.960Even if it means we lose a Senate race and they're not going to get behind you.
00:54:09.600First of all, if you're leading by 30 or 40 points, then you're the obvious candidate.
00:56:03.820How do you take 10 minutes of bribery out of context?
00:56:06.780I mean, Stu and I were talking about this yesterday.
00:56:09.020And I said, the only way it can be taken out of context is if the sentence before was everything I'm about to say, I'm totally making up, Carrie.
00:56:19.280That's the only way to take it out of context.
00:56:21.820Or I got to describe a scene from a movie I just watched.
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01:01:34.920What do you think about Texas saying that it's an invasion and calling up the National Guard and the fact that the Democrats are saying the president needs to federalize them and take that power away from the governor?
01:01:54.460When I ran for governor, I was the first candidate in the country to come up with a border plan.
01:01:59.400And it called for me on day one, taking the oath of office, to declare an invasion and put the National Guard on the border, take back the right and control of our border.
01:04:47.820And I wanted to get him on to congratulate him and everybody in Florida that was involved in this.
01:04:53.300The banks, 100 banks, including the big ones, in Florida have now signed an agreement that they will not discriminate against their customers on the basis of their political views.
01:05:21.280Tell me about it and tell me about the teeth.
01:05:24.840Well, Glenn, when I first started looking at, you know, the ESG policies and what banks around America were doing, first of all, I couldn't believe it was happening.
01:05:33.000To me, it was a form of discrimination.
01:05:35.020And really, they all told me, too, that if they're a federally chartered bank, that Florida couldn't tell them what to do.
01:05:46.700So, really, the teeth of the teeth of the bill was that if you use ESG policies in the state of Florida determining credit, you will no longer be qualified to accept qualified public deposits in Florida, which is about $200 billion a year.
01:06:02.140So, how do we know if they're doing that?
01:06:05.900Do the people have a right to know why they were turned down for a loan and to file suit?
01:06:11.560Well, that's the second part of the bill that we were working on.
01:06:16.500But the first part is that the executives at these banks had to attest and sign that they were not using it.
01:06:24.360So, now, first of all, none of them wanted to sign it because I guess maybe they wanted to do it.
01:07:00.660For instance, when if you signed this and you find out that they are engaging in that, what happens to the bank or the person who signed it?
01:07:11.560Well, then that bank will no longer be able to do business in Florida, period.
01:07:15.540And, you know, when you're talking $200 billion a year in business of public deposits, that's a big number.
01:07:32.320And what this would do if a bank discriminates against an individual and debanks you to tell you – say you're just doing your checking and your savings, your credit cards through a bank, and a bank debanks you because, you know, they don't like you.
01:07:46.160And they're using this terminology of suspicious activity.
01:07:52.080Beta Florida is saying if you're doing – you know, suspending somebody for suspicious activity, you need to tell us privately.
01:07:58.580We don't want – you know, we don't want bad guys that are doing, you know, human trafficking and things like that to get away with that stuff.
01:08:05.120If you tell us and we see that you're doing it in good faith because there really are bad guys and you really did tell the IRS, Department of Justice, it's okay.
01:08:13.400But if you did it just because of some political reason, ideological reason, well, first of all, you can't do business with us, and those people can sue you.
01:08:22.800We have to take the power and give it to the people because we can't wait around for an attorney general to look at our complaint, decide to take it up.
01:08:33.960The individual needs to be able to say, I need – I want to know, deliver the documents, why did I not get this, why have I been debanked, and then be able to sue them.
01:08:45.020And the state can join if they care to, but it has to empower the people, not just the attorney general's office.
01:09:07.180And, I mean, we do remember a few years ago under the Obama administration when they put pressures on banks and not to do business with short-term loan folks and people that sell, you know, legal guns.
01:09:19.320Listen, I don't frankly trust the big banks, and I don't frankly trust the Department of Justice myself.
01:09:28.700The – may I change the subject here, Bob, and I know I didn't prep you to be talking about this, and I don't know if you have an opinion on it.
01:09:36.660But, obviously, Governor Abbott has stepped into the big boots of cowboy techs here and said, we are declaring an invasion, and the government's not doing its job.
01:09:51.160That invokes the Constitution and my right to put the National Guard.
01:09:54.980The feds have said, you have 24 hours to allow us to come on the property.
01:10:01.540It's my understanding from the lieutenant governor who I talked to.
01:10:04.620He said, they're free to go, and they can cut the wire, but we're going to put other wire right behind it.
01:10:10.540And that's all in line with the Supreme Court.
01:10:13.320You're from one of the states that said you signed on – 25 states signed on yesterday to say, we back Florida – or, we back Texas.
01:10:25.020If this goes on, are you – would the state of Florida, do you think, would send National Guard to Texas?
01:10:35.520Glenn, in the past, we've already sent some National Guard and some, actually, FDLE, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, to help Texas.
01:10:45.560Not only would I support doing that – again, that would have to come from the governor or, you know, we as the legislative body –
01:10:51.200but I would volunteer my time to go there and help them myself because it is an invasion of America.
01:10:58.900The fabric of America is being destroyed purposely because the Biden administration wants to do it.
01:11:05.140They're destroying Texas, but they're also destroying small towns around the country where these people are being dropped off
01:11:12.700and now living and becoming part of society.
01:16:16.480I was, because I was looking at what was coming up in the schedule and everything.
01:16:20.260And I just looked at, I don't know what that happened.
01:16:22.420Anyway, coming up in, coming up in just a minute, we have Thomas Massey.
01:16:28.240And Thomas is going to talk to us about the pipe bombs.
01:16:32.680The January 6th narrative is completely falling apart.
01:16:37.760But half the country is missing the entire narrative arc of this.
01:16:43.380And it is really incumbent upon us to know the facts and be able to talk to our friends and say, hey, this is what happened here and here and here.
01:17:04.000And Thomas Massey has been working on this.
01:17:06.320We have him coming up in just a few minutes.
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01:28:12.040Just about 20 minutes before the vote is going down, a plainclothes police officer happens to spot it.
01:28:20.280And then he goes over casually to the Secret Service, talks to them casually for a while, then goes around the other side of the window, talks to that officer, then leaves.
01:28:33.800And the Secret Service don't leave their car.
01:28:43.560A whole group of little children are walking by, and the FBI is not saying, or the Secret Service are not saying, hey, can you cross on the other side of the street, please?
01:29:06.080I don't know that for certain until I talked to that person, but I have reason to believe that's probably true.
01:29:12.020I asked him at the time before we knew that fact or suspected that fact, I said, would that, would the people who found these bombs be suspects?
01:30:41.320I asked another in a follow-up briefing from the FBI that I had just before Christmas.
01:30:47.180I asked another person about that and the alternate angles.
01:30:50.840They've got different angles from that camera that they seem to not be releasing or showing us that would show the person actually placing the bomb the night before.
01:31:42.000He was the guy who thwarted and oversaw the operation on the Whitmer kidnapping case, which was a joke and thrown out.
01:31:51.660So because of that great success, he was transferred and put into Washington, D.C., which is a is the place that everybody's trying to get to.
01:32:02.580And then after this, he suddenly resigns.
01:32:06.500Yeah, well, not until he had a non-investigation for two years of the pipe bomb for, you know, I've talked to people who live in that vicinity.
01:32:16.240They have townhouses near where the person allegedly placed the bombs the night before and where the bombs were found.
01:32:22.460They weren't talked to until months later.
01:32:42.620There was no effort, as far as we can tell, and as far as I know from talking to people that own townhouses around there, to do that.
01:32:50.940There's a complete lack of diligence here.
01:32:53.760Let me ask you, you know, motive plays a real role here.
01:33:01.060Who would have the motive to place bombs in a place where, you know, it's going to be 20 minutes before the vote and the vice president is inside of that building?
01:33:19.520Who has who would have motive of doing that?
01:33:23.940Really, really, really, really bad guys, right?
01:33:26.760Or those who are trying to put together a setup, correct?
01:33:49.800So, you have this narrative, except if it was really nefarious people, why wouldn't the vice president, the DNC, the media, everybody else, why wouldn't they be digging into this story and talking about these pipe bombs?
01:34:09.640For two years, we've not heard anything about these pipe bombs.
01:34:54.840The first, you know, African-American female vice president was almost murdered on January 6th.
01:35:03.320It is the most egregious part of January 6th, if it would have happened.
01:35:09.260And if you believe those were nefarious people that put those in, you would be all over that.
01:35:15.600You know, if we found, you know, the bombs in the World Trade Center wired to the pillars and we caught it in time, we would be saying, they planted bombs, thank God they didn't go off, and the pillars of the World Trade Center.
01:35:39.760You know, with the Boston bombing, they were at the Macy's where the pressure cooker was purchased within 36 hours.
01:35:47.220They had identified, you know, where the pressure cooker came from, and they were getting the video off of the Macy's camera within 36 hours of that bombing.
01:35:56.700Let me ask the question the other way.
01:36:01.060So what would the motive of the bad guy be?
01:36:03.680What would the motive of the, quote, you know, air quote, good guys be to not diligently follow all these leads to just sort of try to memory hole this whole episode of these two pipe bombs?
01:36:17.080And I would say the motive is, the most charitable interpretation is that they were keystone cops, and they don't want to be embarrassed by they were terrible at doing all of this, and they're embarrassing.
01:36:36.700I think the more probable motive is that they were somehow involved, just like in the Michigan case, where, you know, they were trying to, you were poking either, and I'm not saying it's somebody who gets a, you know, goes to a cubicle at FBI or somewhere and draws a salary.
01:36:56.080Maybe these were assets, and they were running something to try to ensnare anybody who was thinking of having, you know, pipe bombs there.
01:37:05.700Well, they would gravitate toward this effort if it was hanging out there in the, you know, subversive underground.
01:37:13.380But they've totally, they're just totally trying to memory hole this.
01:37:33.880And then when I, you know, did the transcribed interview of the assistant deputy of the FBI who was in charge of the D.C. field office, he, you know, Darren was like, I think you should ask these questions and this question.
01:37:48.520And I would encourage people, we've released that transcript just recently of me interviewing D'Antuano, and folks should read that.
01:37:57.540I mean, this is the guy who was in charge of the investigation for two years, and he has no theory on why these pipe bombs had one-hour timers and were set 17 hours before.
01:38:16.120Let me break for 60 seconds back with Thomas Massey.
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01:40:01.400So, Thomas, there's been another couple of breaking things.
01:40:05.080One broke, I think, yesterday or this morning that we have now a memo from, I think it was the CDC, saying that we can't release the fact that myocarditis may be a side effect of this because we'll panic America.
01:40:23.720I did see that, and, you know, I want to add something to this.
01:40:31.260I'm doing my own investigation of the FDA, and I've done two transcribed interviews that haven't been released yet, and I plan to do a hearing.
01:40:41.340The two people in charge of vaccine approval at the FDA, each of whom had 30 years of experience, were forced out in the fall of 2021 when they got orders from the Biden administration to go from emergency use to a full-on license.
01:41:03.480Because they wanted to do mandates, and they felt like unless they had a license, they couldn't do the mandates.
01:41:12.640So, these are people who were in charge of the vaccine approval at the FDA, and they were basically forced out, resigned, because they were removed of all of their responsibilities.
01:41:25.540I've got several hours of transcribed interviews with them.
01:41:28.820When you have this ready, please come to Dallas.
01:41:32.740I'll spend the whole day going through it with you.
01:42:09.620The memo you're talking about was almost as soon as the vaccines came out, I think, in January, February.
01:42:15.280But they knew well about myocarditis and these other side effects.
01:42:21.040By the way, these are actually what I would call kind of the mythical people who are apolitical, who just go about doing their jobs for decades inside of the government.
01:42:33.860They believe in the real science, not the science with the trademark beside it.
01:42:37.460And I couldn't tell you if they're Republican or Democrat, haven't asked them, but they left because they were being told to ignore the science and to skip all of the things they knew that were right to do.
01:42:49.220I mean, we're in a very dangerous place right now because the deep state and all of the people that are so corrupt, it's all coming undone, and it's going to be exposed.
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