Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) said that he does not care whether or not Brett Kavanaugh is guilty of the sexual assault allegations against him. Glenn Beck calls him out for his lack of empathy and calls him a hypocrite.
00:05:03.320But I will tell you, what's happening in Washington right now with the Democratic Party is far scarier than any dystopia they pretend to foresee.
00:05:26.900I want to talk to you a little bit about the book Addicted to Outrage today.
00:05:33.120If you have read it or listened to it on audiobook, I want to talk to you about it.
00:05:38.220We're going to we're going to do this again next week.
00:05:40.540We were going to dedicate the show to this today, but we have Malcolm Gladwell, and I just don't want to cheat him on time.
00:05:46.500And I don't want to cheat the book on time either, because there's a lot in there we have to discuss.
00:05:51.400So Malcolm Gladwell is joining us next hour.
00:05:53.680We will take your phone calls if you've read the book, if you have and you have, you know, something that you disagree with or, you know, you found really, really interesting or you want clarification on.
00:06:05.720You can call 888-727-BECK if you make it on the air today or we're going to take some of these calls next week as well.
00:06:12.440You will get a signed autographed copy of the book or of the audio, whichever you prefer.
00:06:19.120Would you say there's a pretty direct tie between the stuff you talk about in the book and what we're seeing over the past few days off of the Kavanaugh thing?
00:06:36.260What's happened because, as I've said, since since the trial or the hearing last week, the Republicans are playing this perfectly.
00:06:46.440I have not seen the Republican Party ever behave in a way that I thought 10 from the American judge, 10 from me.
00:06:56.920And this fits exactly to my point in Addicted to Outrage.
00:07:04.280People think that and this is why it's taken the book to be able to.
00:07:10.320It's taken me a year and I wrote I wrote the book once and then I rewrote it a second time because it wasn't right because I learned so much as I was writing it.
00:07:17.900And the the point of the book, people look and say, that's a surrender.
00:09:38.260But as I said with Bill O'Reilly, if I find new information and Bill O'Reilly actually is that dude, I'm going to be the first to torch him.
00:09:47.980I've heard you say that to his face or on the phone.
00:10:30.580But because it came out in the 11th hour, there were facts that led the Republicans to say, and I think any human to say, OK, wait a minute.
00:22:22.440The result is I think Kavanaugh is going to win the nomination.
00:22:28.440If he doesn't, it will be because a Republican or maybe a couple of Republicans lose their spine because there is there are no facts on this.
00:26:12.640If you deal with the is the situation, you have a chance to grow.
00:26:18.640It is much better if the person who has done it to you has has, you know, reaped its consequences or has has, you know, admitted it at least or something.
00:26:31.760It's hard when people don't apologize or don't admit it and they just get away with it is really, really hard.
00:28:17.860You get did you give up social media or did you did you just cut down on it?
00:28:23.660I cut down on the outrage, the absolute engaging with some family members that were progressive, where you could you couldn't even talk to.
00:28:36.120There's like beating your kid against a brick wall.
00:37:51.340Republicans and Democrats are going to have equal time to study it.
00:37:54.780If everything goes as expected, we should see the vote tomorrow, a procedural vote tomorrow, followed by a final vote on Saturday.
00:38:03.180After that, I guess we can, you know, crack open a beer and drink too much or not drink too much and take a collective sigh of relief that this national nightmare is finally over.
00:38:13.940But will it be Washington, D.C. is a nightmare?
00:38:21.360The best thing to come out of this is Donald Trump's silence while remaining completely rigid on letting this happen.
00:38:52.920His silence has allowed the press to prove absolutely everything he has said about the press to be true.
00:39:03.740Capitol Police have arrested dozens of out of control leftist additional officers have been called in to maintain order in the Senate office buildings.
00:39:16.660They're blocking senators as they walk in the hall.
00:39:19.780Senator Susan Collins has has been seen escorted now with a full on security detail.
00:39:26.420Republicans are getting harassed at restaurants and their homes.
00:39:29.880While the Democrats are encouraging this, they are also saying that the temperament of Kavanaugh is so bad because when he was young, he threw a glass of ice in somebody's face.
00:40:04.260Imagine if the Tea Party would have been screaming at Democratic senators, cornering them in the halls and the elevators, getting arrested by Capitol Police, following them to restaurants and their homes.
00:40:18.020What would the story from the press be today?
00:40:20.500I can tell you for a fact, it would not be whatever Obama was accused of.
00:40:28.300It would be all about the violence, the vitriol and how the Tea Party must be stopped because they're trying to tear down the republic.
00:40:41.680There would be calls to label the Tea Party a terrorist organization.
00:41:05.660Because they are certain they are correct.
00:41:09.860And if you want to have a different opinion, you have to do whatever you have to do to stop that opinion from being furthered, from being explored, heard, listened to.
00:41:43.660There is my small hope that when Kavanaugh is passed, when he is accepted and put on the Supreme Court on Saturday, the left will learn, hmm, well, that didn't work.
00:42:00.520If he is not confirmed, they will learn this works and it will get much worse.
00:42:11.800There are no calls for the left to de-escalate, at least on the left.
00:42:18.920Rand Paul's wife wrote an incredible op-ed for CNN begging, begging the Democrats to retreat from this and de-escalate.
00:43:44.460David Barton is here, and David is a friend of mine who was for Donald Trump because he kept saying in my ear, Glenn, he is going to be really good on judges.
00:43:57.380And I kept saying, David, you're an idiot.
00:45:20.060So, David has written a new book with another friend of mine, James Garlow, This Precarious Moment, Six Urgent Steps That Will Save You, Your Family, and Our Country.
00:45:30.000And, David, it's a great book, and everybody should read it.
00:45:35.680Again, it's a book that is talking about the steps that you take right now.
00:45:41.860And what I love about this, David, is let's just start on the millennial step.
00:46:04.280Millennials right now are one of the reasons we have a precarious or a dangerous moment, because we have 242 years of being an American nation under the Declaration 231 under the Constitution.
00:46:18.540And so we just kind of think we'll always be here.
00:46:20.360And yet, at the same time, you have 5,500 years of recorded history, and there's never been a socialist nation that's increased freedom or increased prosperity.
00:46:30.140And yet, right now, 75% of students in college support socialism above all forms of government.
00:46:36.000We cannot survive if that becomes the belief when they become leaders.
00:46:39.920In the same way, four out of five millennials believe there is no absolute moral truth.
00:46:45.240Man, if we can't agree that things like rape and murder are wrong, you've got no chance for having a nation in the future.
00:46:50.780You've got 53% of millennials who believe that free speech should be limited, 19% who believe that violence is the right response to free speech you don't like.
00:47:16.460They care about whether you're sincere.
00:47:17.800And if you are sincere and say, and what we have found works so well is just asking questions because they really have had a load dumped on them by their professors and by the culture, and they've not thought it through.
00:47:29.680And when you start asking them questions and not trying to win.
00:47:40.460How does whatever, fill in the blank, they start to engage and, and they, I find that they actually, they actually, um, begin to move toward you faster and not, not just blindly accepting things, but because you're engaging them and asking them to think as long as you're not trying to win.
00:48:36.940And they're the most, uh, of all groups in polling for the hundred years of being in the polling, they're the most relational group in American history.
00:48:57.980I mean, they, they, they have a desire to spend one-on-one time with people who can influence them and help them and thank them.
00:49:04.800Now that's not necessarily their motivation, but what is interesting is they respond really, really well to that.
00:49:10.360And so when you create a relationship that is a genuine, as you said, not trying to win, just a genuine relationship, you can make so much progress in turning them in a different direction.
00:49:20.500And we've seen it ourself more with David Barton here in a second.
00:49:24.080This precarious moment is the name of his book, six urgent steps that will save you, your family and our country, uh, uh, by, uh, James Garlow and David Barton.
00:49:34.040You can grab it wherever books are sold.
00:49:35.860And we'll continue here in just a second.
00:49:38.220Um, first, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour.
00:56:36.640I said yesterday, let's get some of the kids that we've met.
00:56:39.420They're even 15 years old that just will learn it and really know it.
00:56:45.400It's really quite exciting to see millennials what happens when they're unleashed and told the truth.
00:56:51.080David's new book, David Barton and James Garlow's new book, this precarious moment, the six urgent steps that will save you, your family and your country.
00:58:06.860And then when you look now, the founding fathers were very good because Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says they can establish a uniform rule of naturalization.
00:58:34.700And by the way, Ben Franklin said that when you came, you needed to have a certificate from a religious society attesting to your good moral character from the country from which you left.
00:58:42.920The immigrant must not only support the Constitution and our government laws, but renounce allegiance to any other nation or loyalty to any other system.
00:58:54.520And by the way, we had Muslims in America since 1619.
00:58:58.340But to be part of the country, you had to agree to the Constitution, not come here to overturn it.
00:59:03.500The immigrant must believe in the equality of all Americans to renounce and renounce any title of nobility.
00:59:09.580So would I have to if I was coming in, would I have to declare that I was not a member of the press title of nobility or professor or a professor?
00:59:42.520And these guys said, and I mean, the debates are great.
00:59:45.860They said, look, when we got here, if we had voted, we would have voted the way that we were thinking from the West Indies and Ireland and elsewhere.
00:59:53.300And Pierce Butler said, you should not be allowed to vote until 14 years here because you need to learn to think like an American.
01:01:19.660And he said, the problem is they're speaking their own language.
01:01:22.740They're starting to create signs in German.
01:01:24.860They're starting to create documents in German.
01:01:27.460You can't have a nation if you don't speak the same language.
01:01:30.460So Franklin was one of the first ones out.
01:01:32.200Then Thomas Jefferson, the same thing.
01:01:34.180He said, we have immigrants coming in, which is great.
01:01:36.180And by the way, they were so pro-immigration that in the Declaration of Independence, one of the 27 grievances was we're separating from Great Britain because he's trying to stop immigration.
01:01:53.960They will bring with them the principles of the government.
01:01:56.160They leave imbibed with their own early imbibed in their early youth.
01:01:59.760These old principles with their language they will transmit to their children in proportion to their numbers they will share with us in legislation.
01:02:07.560They will infuse it into their old spirit, warp and bias its directions and render it as heterogeneous, incoherent and distracted mass.
01:02:19.740It is thought better to discourage their settling together in large masses, and they should distribute themselves sparsely among the native for quicker assimilation.
01:02:35.640It seems to me necessary to distribute the Germans, the Germans more equally, mix them in with English, establish English schools that are now where they are now too thickly settled.
01:02:49.540I am against the I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have virtues, their industry, frugality, blah, blah, blah.
01:04:52.100It was probably a decade later before slavery stopped in Indian nations.
01:04:55.880So what we do is show slavery is a human problem.
01:04:59.420It is not a black, white problem, despite what your professors say.
01:05:02.960It is a problem in the way you view humankind.
01:05:06.360So we go through and show, for example, Tim Scott and James Lankford in the U.S. Senate have come up with with this thing where you invite other people from other races to come eat a meal with you on Sunday.
01:05:16.920Come into your house and, you know, learn and touch.
01:05:21.400You solve it one person at a time, changing a heart at a time, seeing people different and not having this black, white polarization that we often try to make today.
01:05:29.300How worried are you, David, about the level of anger now?
01:05:38.780Level of anger is a real problem, but what it's what it's derived from is is the bigger problem.
01:05:44.240And that stereotypes and all these things where we really don't know each other.
01:05:49.580And once you get to know each other and once you do this interrelational stuff, like with millennials and like with folks of other races and other groups, once you start doing individual stuff, that's where it breaks down.
01:05:59.300And that's where you're able to demonstrate that, you know, what you thought about me or what you thought about this group is not accurate.
01:06:28.000What we've got to do in immigration, what we have to do in our relationship with Israel, what we have to do with millennials, what we have to do with people of faith doing a terrible job right now as people of faith.
01:11:42.560You're going to learn a lot and laugh a lot, hopefully.
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01:11:58.560And there might be some surprise guests.
01:15:24.880The memory is something that in the last generation, psychologists have spent an enormous and neurologists have spent an enormous time, amount of work and effort trying to understand how it works.
01:15:38.920And the more we learn about memory, the more we realize how fallible it is.
01:15:43.540And we more and when we systematically go back and we test our memories, we find they don't do very well.
01:15:50.160So there's a famous set of studies that are called flashbulb studies where a famous event happens, 9-11, the Challenger explosion.
01:15:59.680And you go to a large group of people, the incident happens, and you say, tell me everything you were doing, thinking on the moment when you heard that news.
01:16:13.920And then they go back to the same group of people a year later, five years later, 10 years later, and they ask them the same set of questions, and they compare their answers.
01:16:23.000And lo and behold, what you discover is that, not everyone, but many of the people substantially alter their memories of the event without realizing it.
01:16:34.340In other words, they are, the first time they'll say, when I heard, when I saw the towers fall, I was standing in the streets of Manhattan with my best friend Jim, tears streaming down my face.
01:16:44.420And then 10 years later, they'll say, when I first heard the towers fall, I was watching it on television in my dorm room, and I ran out, you know, and then I ran and called my friend Jim, who was in Boston.
01:16:58.000And they're as convinced 10 years later that's what their memory was, as they were the first time they related their memories on the day of 9-11.
01:17:09.120And so that kind of stuff, my point in doing the Brian Williams thing was, when you understand how fallible memory is, you are a lot more forgiving of what he did.
01:17:19.500He did something which, it turns out, a lot of us do all the time, which is we make what's called a time slice error.
01:17:26.960We confuse the timeline in our minds, and we think we're one place when something happens, and we're in another place.
01:17:34.980Or some, we've heard a story, been told so many times, that we slowly incorporate ourselves into the story without realizing that we're doing it.
01:17:44.060And my point was that these are not sins of character.
01:17:52.180And we so often want to make someone's faulty memory into a test of their character, and I think that's a mistake.
01:17:59.820You know, there are people who deliberately lie, absolutely, but a lot of what we think might be deliberate lying is just a manifestation of the frailty of human memory.
01:18:12.640So I really don't want to get into politics on this, but I do want to ask you this question to see if the way I'm...
01:18:19.820When I finished with the hearings last week, I felt, okay, I think she believes that, and it may have happened that way.
01:19:14.460This is one of the most important events of my life, my best friend, and we are off by eight months, right?
01:19:20.320And he thinks we met because we had got into a fight, and I think he came up to me and introduced himself, and we were best friends, you know, from the beginning.
01:19:29.480Like, you know, I'm not lying about it.
01:19:32.480It's what I remember, but one of us completely made up that memory from whole class.
01:19:37.500In fact, when you were talking about the 9-11 study, there were people who came back ten years later.
01:19:46.000They wrote out, you know, within a few days, if I'm not mistaken.
01:19:51.600Was it a few days or was it a year after 9-11?
01:20:12.680And they were convinced, somehow or another, they made something up that was different than what they knew to be true now.
01:20:20.520So, yeah, people, one of the most important things that memory researchers will tell you is you cannot confuse confidence with accuracy.
01:20:31.020In other words, the fact that I am absolutely certain that what happened happened is not a reliable guide to its accuracy.
01:20:42.580So, you can't, like, so I am convinced I met my friend Bruce on the first day.
01:20:47.580That should, that does not mean it's more likely to be true than if I said, you know, if I expressed it with more doubt.
01:20:55.940So, I think what it, a lot of what this, the lesson of all of this is, is that we just need to approach our memories, and not just our memories, our entire lives, with a lot more humility.
01:21:09.020You can't, we're not, our brains are not Superman.
01:21:13.400They don't, they're not, we don't have a video recorder up there taking down everything perfectly, you know, and we need to, when I say I remembered something one way, I need to be, I need to check it, I need to talk to others, I need to be open to the possibility I might be wrong.
01:21:30.240I need to, that's why we have legal systems and investigators and, right, to compensate for the fact that our memories are not what we would like them to be.
01:21:41.040Everyone outside, let's take it outside of this political nightmare.
01:21:46.580This Me Too movement, I think, has been very good.
01:21:51.420I am concerned about the, the women need to be believed.
01:21:58.560I don't care if it's a man or a woman.
01:22:00.720No, they need to be heard and taken seriously.
01:22:03.040But we can't just believe what someone says for a myriad of reasons.
01:22:11.460And I fear it's dangerous, this road that we're going down, because we need more than just your word and your memory.
01:22:21.660Because you might believe that's true, but it might not be.
01:22:26.280Yeah, well, so it's funny, this is exactly the point that Ronan Farrell, you know, the journalist who has been responsible, more so than anyone else, for breaking these Me Too stories.
01:22:39.120I went to see him give a public interview, and he was, he was interviewing the actress who was the source, I've forgotten her name, of course, because my memory is very faulty.
01:22:49.780He was the source of many of the Me Too allegations, and they were talking about this very point, and he very explicitly said, my job as a journalist is not to believe the women.
01:23:02.260It is to listen to them and then try and corroborate through careful reporting those aspects of their story that are, corroborate their stories through careful reporting.
01:23:13.180And if I can't corroborate them, then I can't write the story, right?
01:23:18.280My job as a reporter is to compensate for the frailty of human memory.
01:23:22.120And that is a beautiful way of expressing what the responsibility of media investigators is in these cases, is, okay, someone has gone, clearly believes they've gone through something very traumatic.
01:23:37.720Let's systematically try and figure out, did it happen that way?
01:23:43.320And if it didn't happen that way, let us not then judge the person and say they're a liar, right?
01:25:25.640I had a conversation last night with a friend of mine who was a Mormon, and who was talking about the tradition among Mormons of keeping journals, which I had not known about.
01:25:36.260And she had years and years and years of journals.
01:25:38.380And she was talking about what that means for when you have a contemporaneous account of your life, your feelings, your actions, your interpretations of what you've done.
01:25:51.540You can go back, and it obviously serves a function far greater than simply checking your memory.
01:25:57.520But it's a way of keeping yourself honest.
01:25:59.600And what I loved about that was that notion of if we live in such a kind of difficult and flawed world, then we have to take responsibility for our own stories.
01:26:12.460And that, to me, is what that tradition of keeping a journal is about.
01:26:18.440It says, as a human being, you have a responsibility to yourself and to others to understand the road that you have taken, right?
01:26:27.540And write it down so that when you, 20 years later, you can look back and you say, I had forgotten.
01:26:42.140I thought that was as an example of a kind of a practice.
01:26:48.000And you, well, you know, obviously know much more about this than I do, but the idea that that is part of what it means to be a righteous actor in the world is to take your history seriously.
01:27:02.060Have you heard from Brian Williams since your podcast?
01:30:18.420You know, we're just talking about memory, but let's talk about another thing that is misunderstood or underutilized, you know, or gone, lost, forgotten in America.
01:30:45.920But let's let's just say maybe he's liberal, maybe 50 50 shot.
01:30:52.620He just came on this program and he talked to me about a portion of the Kavanaugh hearings without expressing either condemnation or support.
01:31:06.320He spoke about memory and how it applies to both Kavanaugh and Ford.
01:31:12.900Do you know how dangerous that is for him?
01:31:38.420It's something that we need people just being willing to be honest and just talk about just about what we can talk about things without making everything about politics, even though this story.
01:31:49.740The reason why I had him on is because it's very relatable today.
01:31:54.160But that's he did the podcast before Kavanaugh.
01:32:24.600And that's what I think is so absent in so many places right now.
01:32:30.080I mean, it's, you know, it's, you don't always, your side's not always right.
01:32:34.280But it's okay to keep your principles and maintain your arguments and believe things are morally correct the way you do.
01:32:42.360But there's no reason why you can't entertain and be challenged by someone who has a different opinion.
01:32:47.400I feel like that's what, you know, one of the things that's been interesting about the Kavanaugh thing is because those on the left here and, you know, the prominent ones on the left have been so, I mean, I want to use the technical term bonkers on the story.
01:33:02.240So over the top, so ridiculous in so many ways.
01:33:07.480It has taken, it has increased, you know, enthusiasm for Republicans, which would be something you'd expect.
01:33:13.440But it's also taken people who are already planning to vote and changing their minds towards Kavanaugh.
01:33:20.340And that is something just because it, I don't even know if it's because of details of these stories.
01:33:25.620It's because one side looks unhinged and the other one doesn't.
01:33:29.080It's what you talked about in hour one today.
01:33:30.780It is the point of Addicted to Outrage.
01:33:34.320And this Kavanaugh hearing and the way the Republicans and Donald Trump have played it is perfect, is perfect.
01:33:40.960It is the plan in Addicted to Outrage.
01:33:59.440I wanted to see what your thoughts are.
01:34:01.160It seems like the Democrats now with these press conferences coming up this morning are kind of moving the goalposts, going after limited time and six previous investigations that actually something might have been in there.
01:34:27.860The polls are all moving towards Kavanaugh.
01:34:31.380The behavior of the Democrats has has actually gone against them because the Republicans played this right because they remained calm, cool, collected.
01:34:44.880They treated the witness with respect when it was an FBI deal.
01:35:50.220I mean, I don't know what's in the FBI report, but assuming that there's nothing new in the FBI report and, you know, this this whole argument of, well, they didn't talk to her.
01:35:59.140Well, no, because they they interviewed her for three hours.
01:36:04.540What did she have anything else to say?
01:36:28.320They're going to let them because they care more about votes than they do about principles.
01:36:33.900And, you know, I'd say this, if you look at the prediction markets, the highest percentage of likelihood is 53 votes, not not 51 or 50, which would be the Republicans, but 53 votes.
01:36:46.760And I think, you know, Manchin and Heitkamp are the two that you probably see most likely.
01:36:50.300And that's a big thing about if you're in West Virginia, I would love to understand that because here's a guy, here's a state that Trump won by over 30 points.
01:36:59.540I mean, think about the squishy senators that you throw out there from Republicans, Orrin Hatch, Mitch McConnell, Lamar Alexander, Lindsey Graham, Bob Corker, Jeff Flake, John McCain when he was around, Murkowski, Susan Collins.
01:37:11.480All of those people vote with with Trump and the White House far more often, not even close.
01:37:19.860The closest one is Susan Collins, and that's 18 percentage points.
01:37:23.400She votes with Trump more than Manchin.
01:37:25.700You want that guy in representing you if you're in West Virginia?
01:37:30.800And if he comes out today and decides to go the other way on Kavanaugh, I mean, he seems to be leading in the polls.
01:37:39.360But if this guy comes out and goes against Kavanaugh with this ridiculous of a nonsensical situation surrounding it, how can you let this guy go back to the Senate?
01:37:50.240I'm going to I just made a book out to you and I'm going to send it to you.
01:37:52.620Addicted to Outrage will pop it in the mail today.
01:37:54.700Real quickly, let me go to Eddie in South Carolina.
01:37:56.820Then Pat, Pat's here from the Pat Gray Radio Roundup, otherwise known as Pat Gray Unleashed, which you can find on which you could find on podcast iTunes or Stitcher.
01:38:09.100wherever you get them and on the Blaze Radio Network.
01:47:29.280Um, these studies where they, where these, these three, um, uh, scientists realize this postmodern
01:47:37.860stuff is crap and it's changing science and it's completely unhinged.
01:47:42.820So they started writing papers to see if they could get them peer reviewed and published.
01:47:47.240They wrote papers about how the rape culture is really even fostered in dog parks because dogs will hump each other and the, the one dog will be, uh, traumatized and the other dog didn't ask permission.
01:48:04.180And, uh, it's, it's just perpetrating a rape culture in America.
01:48:10.400It's published and it was an award winning essay and it was totally made up and bogus.
01:48:20.480So if, and they, they found if they, if they just said that they submitted and it went nowhere, but if they made it about the white hierarchy,
01:48:31.480they had seven, seven studies that were completely ridiculous and bogus in one year, they got seven studies published.