Charlie Kirk WARNED: The Right CANNOT Give Into THIS Temptation | The Glenn Beck Podcast REPLAY
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On October 11th, Allie Beth Stuckey will speak at the Share the Arrows Conference in Dallas, Texas. She is a speaker, author, speaker, and speaker-in-chief. She has been featured on the Today Show, CNN, Fox News, CNN Worldwide, and many other media outlets. She is also the founder of Turning Point USA, the largest, most impressive and fastest growing youth movement in the country, with chapters in over 1,500 schools across the country and around the world.
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Coming to a conference today was really eye-opening to see that there's more people like Allie.
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Being surrounded by women like this, it's an encouragement because I know that I'm not the only one.
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We are women who need to be challenged in the Word of God, who are willing to swim upstream.
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Join Allie Beth Stuckey for Share the Arrows in Dallas, Texas.
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We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you.
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We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it.
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You know, I think one of the biggest lies today is the rap that is given to, you know, 15 to 30 year olds.
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They're all called lazy, self-centered, participation trophy generation.
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You know, gosh, we're all going to be destroyed when they finally take over.
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But that's not the majority, at least the ones I've met.
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And today's guest gives me real hope that I'm right on this.
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He saw a problem and he didn't wait around for someone else to fix it.
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Instead, he inspired high school and college students across the nation to be the voice of freedom.
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He's a guy who, when he was a kid, watched my show on television.
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And by the time he's in high school and then in college, he wants to change the world.
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He's somebody who President Trump has called a great warrior and is no stranger to leftist criticism.
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He's been called every name in the book for daring to support free speech on college campuses while questioning affirmative action and white privilege.
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He is the founder of an organization that was nowhere, didn't even exist just a few years ago.
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It is the largest, most impressive and fastest growth youth movement in the country.
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Recently, I was invited to speak at their fifth annual Student Action Summit.
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Over 5,000 students attending on their own dime from all across the country and fired up about the truth of America.
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But before I took the stage, my guest and I had an opportunity to sit down and we shared what we've gotten wrong, what our country must get right.
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And the amazing things that happen when people work together and do it.
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On this episode of the Glenn Beck podcast backstage with Charlie Kirk.
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I was so excited to just hear all the women that have been on Allie's podcast.
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I knew that there are women, women in my audience who are hungry for the truth.
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Before the foundations of the world, God prepared you to be a woman.
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Join Allie Beth Stuckey for Share the Arrows in Dallas, Texas.
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Nothing I tell you today will impact you more than the things that I tell my children every day.
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We are women who need to be challenged, who are willing to swim upstream.
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Christianity means nothing if truth is not real.
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So, Glenn, so great to be sitting down here and it's an honor to be able to speak with you.
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I grew up listening to you and watching your show with the blackboard.
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It was more instructive than you could have ever imagined.
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And you've been right about everything that you predicted.
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But it's really refreshing to hear people be able to say, no, I was wrong about something.
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Yeah, you know, I haven't really even talked about this on the air.
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I think I maybe have obliquely referenced it recently.
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And we haven't spoken since before the election.
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And we always had a friendly relationship, you know.
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And he, if I were traveling, I would stay at Mar-a-Lago and he'd be someplace else.
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But we haven't spoken to each other since the election.
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And I'll never forget my Scottish assistant, who was part of the Royal Marines.
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And he comes in while we're shooting a show and he's off stage.
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And he's like, the president wants to talk to you.
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And I strangely said, can I, can you ask him if I can call him back?
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And it was a, it was a really, I wish more people knew him and could hear him like that.
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Because he, he started in and he said, you know, I want to thank you for, you know, saying
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And he thought I was taking this a different direction.
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And I said, well, I don't know if you know this, but during, you know, the last election
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and he cut me off and he said, oh no, I'm very aware of that.
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Um, I said, what I said was, I want to be wrong.
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I don't think I am, but I want to be wrong and I'm going to judge him.
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I'm, I'm having to judge him on what I think he's going to do.
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Now, once he's the president, I get to judge him for what he is doing.
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And I said, so there was never any doubt in my mind, at least that if you did the things
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that you said you were going to do, I'd be a supporter.
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And, um, you know, we talked about Israel, um, we talked about trade and I said, I strongly
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We had a real frank, honest conversation, which you don't have usually with a politician.
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Um, and I think that's what people like about him, um, uh, is that he really will tell you
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what he's thinking, what the problem is sometimes.
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Well, and I'll, I'll tell you, you're a great, um, example, uh, that shows the success of his
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presidency from a conservative worldview, which is there's more people supporting him that
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are saying, you know what, I was hoping he'd succeed.
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And he has, and he has been able to deliver results.
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What's interesting is at the, um, uh, at the time we're recording this, it's just what day
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And last night the president had a, uh, rally up in Michigan, 17% of those who attended were
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And I think there's a lot of people who, you know, I heard Ben Shapiro say the other
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day, it's whether you think the president is a killer or a coroner, these things, the
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press and everything else, they've been dead for a long time.
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Now he's standing over the body saying they're dead and the, and the press now and everybody
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Half the country, up 40% are convinced that he's the killer.
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The other half recognize this stuff has been rotted for a long, long time.
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Well, and Glenn, you and I both share the belief that America's exceptional and it felt that
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before Donald Trump, and I would make, I would make the argument most Republicans who are
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running for the presidency would not have done what President Trump has done.
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Especially the international TPP, Iran deal, renegotiating NAFTA.
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But it felt as if there was a management of the decline of America.
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So 2010, 2011, you were a big part of it and you were, you were a very vocal piece of it.
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And President Trump, in a lot of different ways, has led the revitalization, has given a lot
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of Americans hope that they thought that this, this country could not be turned around.
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He has the same thing that Tulsi Gabbard has, and they don't agree on anything.
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But Tulsi is a, she's so far out of the mainstream and she is so far left, but at no time do I
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And what used to bring us together is that we can disagree, but we have a fundamental understanding
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that this country is a positive force and you can make it.
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This is why Bernie Sanders has a, has a group that really appreciates him and follows him
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and why even some people on the right will say, oh, I like, I don't like Bernie Sanders,
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but I think he really believes what he believes.
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I think the new era of politics in the bipartisan cartel that has ruined this, you know, ruling
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class essentially, just, you know, very series of destructive policies that have borrowed too
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much money and eroded our freedoms and liberties and grew the fourth branch of government.
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I think the American people would much prefer someone who's authentic, who says why they
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believe what they believe, like that conversation you had with the president on trade, even if
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you might fundamentally disagree with tariffs, you say, I'll deal with that way more than
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I made argument after argument and he tried to dismantle and I built, but wait a minute, Mr.
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And in the end he said, I'm just going to shoot straight with you.
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I love the fact that we can get things from people.
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If we just use our muscle a little bit, I fundamentally disagree, but I hung up the phone going, at least
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you told me the truth, he was not pandering to me.
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Well, and that's clarity over agreement, which, and, or the false agreement that the, the, the
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bipartisan coalition that has really, like I said, ruined our country in so many ways, not
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completely, but I find the American people have this, this yearning in this interest, especially
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young people for authenticity in our candidates.
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So I have a question for you and then in 10 years, do you think America will be more
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I asked this question of everybody, by the way.
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If, uh, we continue the spending and if we continue the erosion of, of who we are,
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If we, if we have this, um, a real collapse, an actual depression, people who right now say,
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They will want it to be able to weather that storm.
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Um, uh, and I'm afraid that we're on that track.
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I mean, Charlie, I don't think, you know, the impact you say, Oh, Glenn, you made an impact
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Do you realize the impact you're having on the country?
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I mean, your organization didn't exist five years ago.
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And I, in, in this place that paid to come across the country, I was on a plane with
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And I realized the people you have, you remember when I did the thing in Washington, DC and
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And I said that, that day, somewhere in this crowd, there is maybe he's seven, maybe he's
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Somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington that will feel it right now.
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And I am so overwhelmed with the people that I have met from your organization and the people
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You are, you and your organization really responsible for, um, what I think will be the
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next great generation, but also some real sucky ones are going to come out of this group
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You know, there's always, there's always, there's always a big government progressive left or
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I want to talk to you about that because that's a great point.
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And I think the, you're starting to see the coming divide on the right.
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Um, and I have some sympathy with some of the arguments and it's definitely a hundred
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percent sympathy with the observations of where the, the, the right comes from this, but
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there's a new right movement, um, where they're okay with using government to trust bust or using
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government to solve societal cultural problems, banning things, growing government.
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So this idea of banning porn that's been kicked around.
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So let's talk about, I did a whole podcast on that.
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What's, I don't know if you've commented on that publicly or not, but this is the coming
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You are no different than what you're fighting against.
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That you're going to, by the way, some of the students tonight are going to be looking for
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that clarity because they're being told, which way do I want to go on this?
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This is, this is the divide that started with the progressive era.
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Those two believed that the government and a group of experts could decide for everyone
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And that is the exact opposite of what our founders believed.
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What our founders believed was, look, you are going to some people, and I know this because
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I've had two people, my mother and my, my brother commit suicide.
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Some people's bottom is death and there is nothing you can do about it.
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When people say, oh, that guy was an alcoholic, that star was an alcoholic and depressive, we
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Most likely the people in their life did see it coming and they tried to do things.
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But until the individual decides to change, nothing will change.
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They'll just hide it deeper and deeper and deeper.
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And you will cause more strife by trying to force them to sober up, get better, be happy.
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You can teach why it's destructive, but you become the fascist when you decide this is
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immoral and thus I'm going to make sure nobody does it.
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It's the efficacy of banning it also is questionable.
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Look at the drug war and look at, it's not Spain.
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They had the highest addiction rate, I believe in the world, on heroin.
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What they decided to do was legalize all of it and then take half of the money they were
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spending and work on drug programs like AA programs.
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Just fund things that work to get people off that.
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I mean, there'll always be drug problems, but they've healed their country.
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Remember, the progressives started in the Republican side.
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And you're seeing it, especially with the issue of tech, tech tyranny, Facebook, Google.
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And there's calls on the right now to either trust bust them, where we've heard that before.
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And a lot of it is by bad history, by the way, that the trust busting was almost as glamorized
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And you educated me on this quite well about really the reality of trust busting.
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Look, it is the one part of capitalism that I can't come up with a comfortable answer on.
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How do you control it when people become so wealthy and so powerful that they can control?
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Do we bust them up so they don't have that much?
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This country was really built by the railroads.
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You know, people say, oh, look at the Vanderbilts and what they had just because they built the railroad.
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The average American has about twice the benefits and lifestyle that the Vanderbilts had back then.
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We have a much better life on average and just below average.
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I've actually, I've gone into the private residence of the Breakers.
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I don't know if you know this, but Vanderbilts still live in the Breakers.
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The attic is nothing but Louis Vuitton steamer trunks that just say Vanderbilt silver, Vanderbilt China.
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The things that they did was crazy, but they helped us grow.
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The problem was, is they decided themselves that they could control things.
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I mean, he supported the socialists, the national socialists in Germany.
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I'm going to tell my coworkers, my workers what to do.
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If you wanted to buy a Ford, you had to come see him.
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And he would go over your financial records to see if you were even qualified to own.
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So how do you square that to a free market skeptic?
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I can't, I can't square it other than it works itself out.
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We are going through what we went through in the late 1800s.
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You think it's a gilded era almost that we might be going through.
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I think it's a gilded, the big, huge houses that are built.
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That's going to be the breakers of this century.
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Well, the counter argument, people will say, but no, it took a Teddy Roosevelt to break it up.
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That's what someone on the far left or the new right would say.
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He broke up the, the corruption in politics in New York.
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You have to make the government so small that no, there's no one really to bribe.
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It's impossible to lobby a government so small that doesn't exist.
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Why, you know, it was Woodrow Wilson that really started this, this lobbying campaign and they did it in World War I.
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And so some people that, and mind you, Glenn, this is a growing intellectual community.
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I agree with them 100% on a lot of their observations.
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We're not going to get back to constitutional government.
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They say the fourth branch of government is untouchable.
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What is achievable, though, is broad consensus of trying to use the instruments of power towards a moral good.
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And it's not an insignificant amount of people, Glenn, that believe this.
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We cannot become a group of people that don't understand the tyranny of the majority or the tyranny of the minority.
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You must allow me to fail and you must allow me to succeed.
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You can't, it's something that, if I may speak in religious terms here.
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So, you know, the war in heaven when a third of the angels are lost.
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And Satan's up there and he's like, I'm going to bring all of them back.
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I'm going to bring all these people back to you, God.
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That is the, this is the same argument that has been going on, if you're a spiritual person,
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And I've always wondered, up until the last 10 years or so, how, how do you stand in front
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And a third of them are convinced, yeah, God's the bad guy.
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He wants these people to go down there and suffer and hurt and be in pain and stumble and
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That's how you get a third of the angels to fall away.
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They say, capitalists, true capitalists say, you know what?
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There are going to be places and people whose heart is so big, they want to help.
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And we as a society are going to promote the general welfare, meaning we're going to show,
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we're going to point those people out and say, good job, good job.
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And then there's something that is so big that only the government can take care of.
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Everyone has to be able to succeed because it's about the individual, not the group.
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Skeptics will say, but that's doomed to fail because of the law of hierarchies.
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So that you'll have so many people in the competence hierarchy that will get so good and will only
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And over time, the mob will be created no matter what.
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Boy, I would go back to the American Trinity, which is liberty, in God we trust,
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And also to be able to live free and make choices you see fit as long as they don't hurt somebody else.
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Secondly, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,
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and among these rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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And governments are instituted among men to protect those rights.
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That is the greatest mission statement of all time.
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And everyone says, well, yeah, well, we never achieved it.
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Those founders that wrote that said, I believe man can do this.
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When I was growing up, we didn't think we could go to the moon.
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The moon was just there, and we were here, and there's no way we're ever going to go to the moon.
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John F. Kennedy says, we're going to go to the moon, we're going to put men on it,
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and we're going to return them home by the end of this decade.
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This is the biggest idea any man has ever had, any group of people.
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What we do is we just say, we suck, instead of saying, wait a minute, we failed, but have you seen the progress over here?
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Have you seen what these people have done, and promote the general welfare and domestic tranquility by saying, look at how we're advancing as man?
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Instead, we keep saying, man sucks, he'll always suck, and he's got to have a big government being big brother to hold him in place.
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And so, you come from the place and the opinion that man is broken by nature, original sin.
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And I hate to oversimplify it, but I think a lot of the American left, because they don't come from a biblical worldview, and they look at things, I believe, in more platonic terms, and less Aristotelian terms, they believe that it's the structures and the systems, not the man that is broken.
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So, they'll make the argument, no, man's actually good, but it's the capitalistic patriarchy and the nuclear family.
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Or they will make the statement that man is nothing more than cattle, and a group of supermen can-
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Right, can be the ranchers of those cattle to protect the cattle.
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Every man is put here with everything he needs.
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If you only know him in Europe, he's a miracle.
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When he got kicked out of the Navy or the British Navy or whatever, yeah.
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Is he the guy in 1935 or is he the guy in 1945?
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What matters is, was he better earlier or better towards death?
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He admitted his mistakes by the time he was old.
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And that is the individual responsibility for all of us.
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And unless you go through the crucible, unless you are put into the refiner's fire of life,
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if you are not allowed to succeed, well, then you're not going to be able to fail.
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And if you're only allowed to fail because the entire system is failing, you won't know the sweet.
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Winston Churchill is no different than our country, than you, than me.
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We all have a dark side and we all have a light side.
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The idea is for you to understand that there is forgiveness for you.
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So, thus, you should provide forgiveness for others.
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And you should provide understanding and grace to others.
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Because you know when you do something wrong and nobody will ever forgive you.
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And I find one of the root causes of this, where also progressivism is able to catch hold,
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is the fastest growing religion in America, which is atheism.
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And the rise of atheism, not just agnosticism and not just being deferential, but the committed,
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I am an atheist and I want to tell the world about it.
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Because they evangelize more than evangelical Christians do.
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There's a direct connection to that to statism.
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When you are able to get people not to believe in a higher power,
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not believe that natural rights actually come from a creator,
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You know, for most of my life, I thought Nietzsche was sticking his fist up and going,
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And he was warning, you're replacing him with science and God help you with the direction
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The left, their God is the planet, global warming, socialism.
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And if you don't genuflect when you are told to genuflect, if you don't say the rosary the
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right way, you are a part of the problem and you must be run out of town because you're
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It's just their God is different than, you know, the invisible guy in the sky.
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There is a difference, if I may say, between atheists.
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I know, I know atheists that are not a part of the problem because they're also strong
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And so they don't want to force it on somebody else.
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And, you know, my friend Penn Jillette, he said to me one time, we were just chatting and
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He said, you know, you never asked me what I know about Jesus and to be baptized.
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And I said, well, I figure you're smart enough to know and I shouldn't.
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He said, but doesn't that, isn't that part of your creed to be able to do it?
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And he said, I actually kind of feel bad that you didn't think enough of me.
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And I said, no, I was actually trying to respect you and not, you know, do that.
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And he said, yeah, but it's in your creed to do that.
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When I first met Penn, I asked him, I said, I just finished a show with him.
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And I said, hey, next time you're in town, let's get together, have lunch.
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And he said, it'd be like me having a lunch with a disease.
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And he said, I would never have a religious person in my house.
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It'd be like inviting the plague into my house.
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And I said, Penn, boy, I've thought a lot of things about you in my life, but not that you were a bigot.
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And he told me later, he got into the elevator and he just kicked himself.
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And he had grouped all religious people into one ball.
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And through our friendship, you know, of me just being there and, you know, always being his friend, he changed.
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In fact, he's preaching to his atheist friends.
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I saw him on stage at the atheist convention saying, don't be what we've always said the worst Christians are to us.
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Just live with one another and respect one another.
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I'm afraid that's the minority of atheists, though.
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And Dennis Prager has the best question about it.
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He spoke at the atheist convention once they've invited him.
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And he asked the question, do you hope you're wrong?
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And it's a great question to ask Penn, because if you don't hope you're wrong, then you want to be right more than what is good.
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You want to be right more than ever having an afterlife, mercy, forgiveness, believing there's ubiquitous creator behind everything that we know to be true.
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I don't think Penn would say he hopes he's wrong.
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He wants to just be nothing more than a clump of cells and bacteria.
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Yeah, he thinks that we live a good, decent life now, enjoy every second, be good every second.
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But he should at least hope there's an afterlife.
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Meaning, would you believe the Bible if it's true, Penn?
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Because if I could prove it to you, which I don't think you can either way.
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But there's good evidence to get people within striking distance.
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Okay, so if I could prove it to you, would you change your mind?
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If they say no, if I said no, if they came to you and said, if we could prove that there is no God, I reject that immediately because you can't prove that.
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But if you could, and here's the evidence, Charlie, there is no God, would you change your mind?
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Knowing that no proof on either side would actually ever do it.
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I mean, I look at my faith, you know, people are like, you actually believe in that stuff?
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I'm a recovering alcoholic and, even more important, a recovering dirtbag.
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I spent a lot of my life being an absolute dirtbag.
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And I know what my will got me, and it got me nowhere except into the center of misery.
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And when I went looking for a faith, I went looking for God, I was looking just for something that would make me a happier person, make me nicer, make people, make me just love people, you know?
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And to control the worst urges in me, I don't care.
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If I have to drink chicken blood, if it works for me, celebration.
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If I get to heaven and God is like some big space octopus, and he's like, you never saw this one coming, I'd go, no, never thought that.
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So I visit campuses a lot, and we're so thrilled you'll be able to speak to our students.
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And the rise of socialism is real and the destruction of our public education system.
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And so can you give a little bit of a preview, or as this will record indefinitely in perpetuity, give it to those that can't be there, give me the blowdown.
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And I want our students to look up to you and admire you so much, Ben.
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And if you could remember my name, I would believe it.
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This is an 1830 engraving of the original Declaration of Independence, the first draft.
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And if you look at it, here, you can take that one.
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If you look at it, you will see on the sides, on the borders.
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And on the borders, you'll see things like Franklin or Adams.
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That's like a Google Doc where Franklin went in and said, don't like that line.
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Then Franklin and Adams going, okay, I kind of like that.
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Now, what does the Declaration of Independence say at the very top?
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A declaration by the representatives of the United States of America in General Congress.
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But what does the official, the one that was approved.
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So they started and Thomas Jefferson said, you have to, do we all agree that if we aren't
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completely in lock sync, that the king will find a way to worm himself between us and he'll
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So I want you to notice that the only words that are capitalized in that.
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Now, why, why would, do you notice that that's nowhere else?
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That's Thomas Jefferson alone at night writing the first draft.
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And in it, he says, and the worst usurptation, the worst thing he has done is this Christian
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king, handwritten out, that's, uh, that's all printed.
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This Christian king has taken a group of people who never offended him from another part of
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He sold capital letters, men, on the open market.
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How could Thomas Jefferson write, all men are created?
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That's why he, in his own zeal, he, he capitalized men.
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And now he's taking the people who are trying to free those people.
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We have tried over and over and over again, and he blocks us every step of the way.
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And now he's telling these people that he'll buy their freedom if he will, if they will kill
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So don't tell me we were built by racists that didn't understand.
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And inspired by this document, in 1777, Vermont abolished slavery.
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I mean, this document inspired the abolition movement.
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But the lie of the left is that we're a racist country from our founding.
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And we only got a couple minutes because then we got to throw you on stage.
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This is to Caesar Rodney, one of our founders, written by Thomas Jefferson.
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I think that might be a Latin phrase at the end.
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I mean, that's Jefferson, one of his more famous lines.
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Just quickly, this is the original prospectus for Disneyland.
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Yeah, he died in 66, I think, and that was opened in 72.
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And Epcot was not supposed to be what Epcot is now.
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So, it looks like, if I had to guess, a picture of-
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Yeah, obviously, from 1940s, probably World War II.
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So, we were letting people know before we dropped the bomb.
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Leaflets were dropped from the sky over 11 cities.
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And Hiroshima and Nagasaki are two of the cities.
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We have more firepower in one bomb than all the bombs we have already dropped in Europe.
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Only Israel would do that with the Palestinian Authority.
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But, Glenn, we're just like every other country.
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Um, Walt Disney in 1954 in the, uh, I think it was November of 1954 said, I want to build
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a park and I'm going to build it in Orange County.
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Now you have to get environment, you'd have to get environmental impact statements.
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No, that's, well, Glenn, it's such an honor to be able to speak with you.
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