The Glenn Beck Program - 'Chill Out!' (Joel Rosenberg joins Glenn)

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00:00:16.620 Arr! Hashtag shiver me toombers. Ah, I remember all the pirates saying that.

00:00:22.700 Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean ride is getting the feminist makeover now that, well, not everybody.

00:00:32.380 In fact, no one was clamoring for.

00:00:34.960 You know the scene, if you've ever been to the Pirates of the Caribbean,

00:00:38.420 you know, the audio-animatronic robotic females are being auctioned off as brides to some male pirates.

00:00:47.740 And there's a voluptuous red-haired robot that seems, you know, not as enthused about getting married to, you know,

00:00:57.600 the pirate after the auction as you might think.

00:01:01.260 Disney says that that sent a very sexist message, and it's going away.

00:01:07.400 Okay, I would, I mean, you know, okay.

00:01:10.140 Um, I'm pretty sure pirates, you know, were sexist.

00:01:19.100 It kind of goes with the rape and pillage part of being a pirate.

00:01:23.960 I mean, I just, the last thing, we can pillage all you want.

00:01:28.120 But don't you dare touch the ladies.

00:01:31.280 Not that I'm noticing that they're ladies at all.

00:01:33.560 They might be men, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

00:01:36.200 I mean, come on.

00:01:37.520 First of all, may I just say, and I know this is deep and hard to understand, this is stupid.

00:01:47.640 Okay, this is stupid.

00:01:50.760 Uh, the looting is also a problem.

00:01:53.820 I mean, that's not exactly the moral high ground, Disney.

00:01:57.780 One Disney fan said,

00:01:59.100 It's uncomfortable for me to even see women being sold into bondage and human trafficking.

00:02:04.620 I can't imagine what little girls think about this.

00:02:07.120 I don't know.

00:02:07.960 Maybe stay away from pirates.

00:02:10.740 That would be a good thing to teach, wouldn't you?

00:02:13.560 I mean, oh my gosh.

00:02:17.240 Now, I don't know if any kids have watched pirates, met pirates.

00:02:26.560 But these pirates are robots.

00:02:31.500 They're audio-animatronic pirates.

00:02:34.380 They're not real.

00:02:35.780 By the way, and I know that we can't actually, there is no objective reality.

00:02:41.560 But even in a world where there is no reality, it's a theme park in a world where there is no, in a world where there is no reality.

00:02:53.980 Okay, it's a, it's a ride.

00:02:55.500 And it's been a ride.

00:02:56.820 It's been open for 51 years.

00:03:00.060 Disney first announced this change last summer at the fan convention, and the audience started to boo.

00:03:08.580 Now, that didn't seem to matter because the company is shutting down the ride for the next two months while they make alterations to it anyway.

00:03:14.680 So, they don't really care.

00:03:16.360 I mean, it's Disney.

00:03:17.680 What do they care?

00:03:18.460 Disney executives finally going to be able to sleep at night because they've made the change.

00:03:23.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:03:25.280 Whew.

00:03:26.940 You know, I haven't been able to sleep since I started working here thinking about the slave auction that has been happening.

00:03:35.080 Those women have been sold in that auction for 51 years, and we haven't done a damn thing.

00:03:42.760 We're finally stopping the madness.

00:03:45.520 Every, every two and a half minutes, they are still being sold.

00:03:53.520 They have to relive it over and over and over again.

00:03:57.620 You know, I mean, okay, okay.

00:04:02.280 Maybe it's time for Disney to start taking a hard look, you know, at everything they do because I think it'll make the park much better.

00:04:11.040 For instance, Dumbo, the flying elephant, really?

00:04:16.020 So, you notice that you have the elephant attached to a pole?

00:04:20.140 You've just rammed a giant pole into the side of the elephant, and now you're making him carry kids?

00:04:25.980 You've hollowed out the inside of the elephant so my kids can sit inside where his heart used to be.

00:04:34.940 Tarzan's treehouse?

00:04:38.600 King of the jungle.

00:04:40.340 He's a white man.

00:04:42.360 He's not king of the jungle.

00:04:44.500 What are you doing?

00:04:45.720 And then on top of that, objectification of males?

00:04:49.520 He scampers around in nothing but his underpants.

00:04:53.800 And I think he's hetero.

00:04:55.320 While you're at it, maybe you should edit out all of the scenes where women are harassed and objectified in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

00:05:05.200 Or, and I'll just be crazy on this for a second, maybe, you know, in Aladdin, that, that sweet young woman who you have dressed as a whore,

00:05:21.400 I think somebody should take some crayons and paint a burqa on her.

00:05:28.360 Because, how are Muslims going to watch that movie?

00:05:34.300 How are they going to do that in the Middle East?

00:05:37.920 Beauty and the Beast?

00:05:39.160 That whole thing is about a female held hostage by a verbally abusive white male that's finally revealed himself as the monster he is.

00:05:53.800 How about the child neglect and endangerment in Peter Pan?

00:05:58.600 He's being chased by a, by a creepy man with a hook for a hand.

00:06:05.120 I can't imagine what children must think about that.

00:06:10.780 Yes, it's a story that they tell at the campfire about the guy who went insane and then escaped up the road.

00:06:16.880 And now, now he's just got this hook and he might be here to kill us, so let's get in the car.

00:06:22.800 And when they got home, there was nothing but a bloody hook on the car door.

00:06:29.820 They almost had him.

00:06:32.620 We don't tell that story.

00:06:34.300 Disney, you're out of your mind.

00:06:41.020 I mean, the 1950s, do you remember the communist witch hunt vibe?

00:06:47.200 Do you remember that?

00:06:48.520 And you know how that was remembered now?

00:06:51.860 This is the current culture.

00:06:54.480 And, you know, you talk about,

00:06:56.000 Oh, I don't like these Christians who are all after the morality police telling us what we can and can't do.

00:07:03.380 You're down to taking audio animatronic robots out because you think the pirates are being sexist.

00:07:13.380 You know what?

00:07:14.540 You could put a bunch of little boys in there, too, because I don't think the pirates really cared.

00:07:19.540 They were pirates.

00:07:25.040 The only certain thing that would be left to approve would be, no, not Mickey Mouse.

00:07:31.220 He's a mouse that you have enslaved and then humanized and made him part of this throwaway culture.

00:07:40.380 You know, a true culprit in the objectification and abuse of women?

00:07:46.980 Hmm.

00:07:48.460 I don't know.

00:07:49.660 What do you say?

00:07:50.060 The porn industry?

00:07:52.180 No, no, no, no, no.

00:07:53.940 I'm sorry.

00:07:54.660 You people in Hollywood, you're completely fine with that.

00:07:57.940 It's Thursday, March 15th.

00:08:09.220 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:08:11.880 Me mateys.

00:08:13.060 We can't objectify these women or sell them.

00:08:16.140 Marry them off as brides.

00:08:18.640 Let's just go watch a good porno.

00:08:22.020 Was it Shiver Me Too members?

00:08:24.160 Yes.

00:08:24.740 No, hashtag.

00:08:25.820 Hashtag.

00:08:26.780 Hashtag Shiver Me Toombers.

00:08:29.580 So stupid.

00:08:32.260 Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard?

00:08:34.720 Yes.

00:08:35.580 It's just a collab.

00:08:36.460 I feel like we could just do a whole show every day with just new examples of the dumbest thing you've ever heard.

00:08:42.560 New record set.

00:08:43.540 First of all, do you know why people booed?

00:08:45.340 You know why they did it at the fan club?

00:08:47.320 The worst place you could do that.

00:08:49.340 Do you know why?

00:08:51.760 You're the Disney nerd here, so no, I don't.

00:08:53.780 This is the last ride that Walt Disney personally approved and directed.

00:09:00.540 Oh, really?

00:09:00.940 So this is his last gasp as he's like, hand me a cigarette.

00:09:08.120 You know what we do?

00:09:10.220 Have an auction here.

00:09:12.260 So it's like, for Disney fans, this is a sacred storyline.

00:09:18.040 It really is a sacred storyline.

00:09:20.600 So they announced this at the fan club where you've got all the geeks like me that are like, what?

00:09:27.780 Yeah.

00:09:28.240 You don't violate nerd culture to their faces.

00:09:30.360 You don't.

00:09:31.360 You don't.

00:09:32.240 No.

00:09:32.540 And I mean, what part of pirates?

00:09:35.240 What are we doing?

00:09:36.300 Oh, OK, so now our kids, you know, if we continue down this road, our kids will be begging us to.

00:09:43.100 Can we finally go to Yemen or Somalia?

00:09:46.520 They're pirates there.

00:09:47.920 Oh, no.

00:09:48.520 Big deal.

00:09:49.100 They're great people.

00:09:51.520 No, they're pirates.

00:09:53.500 They're pirates.

00:09:55.940 How do the Pittsburgh pirates stay in existence?

00:09:59.740 The baseball team, just to make sure, Glenn, you know what I'm talking about.

00:10:03.340 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:04.320 Wait a minute.

00:10:05.200 That's hurtful.

00:10:06.440 They're targeting women, these people.

00:10:08.480 They're actual pirates and they play baseball?

00:10:11.780 Yes.

00:10:12.580 Absolutely.

00:10:12.980 Either Pittsburgh, you're in trouble, or I have pirates all wrong.

00:10:17.140 How about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

00:10:19.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:20.320 How can that be a thing?

00:10:22.540 All these teams should be banned.

00:10:24.200 Yeah.

00:10:24.620 Immediately.

00:10:25.320 Well, I mean, if you've ever been to Gasparilla Parade in Tampa,

00:10:30.040 they may be auctioning off women to marry by three o'clock in the afternoon.

00:10:36.640 In the parade.

00:10:37.960 Oh, yeah.

00:10:38.440 That's definitely part of the parade.

00:10:40.020 Isn't that the mayor?

00:10:41.240 Is he he's auctioning women off?

00:10:43.900 Yeah, it's just part of the parade.

00:10:45.600 Have another.

00:10:46.480 You can't judge it by the afternoon.

00:10:48.500 I mean, well, when I say afternoon, I mean, one o'clock.

00:10:53.440 Yeah.

00:10:53.680 Okay.

00:10:53.920 Yeah.

00:10:54.500 I mean, so technically it is afternoon.

00:10:56.580 It's a pirate storyline.

00:10:59.940 It is.

00:11:00.400 This is part of it.

00:11:01.380 Yes.

00:11:01.500 It's like you're going to make Game of Thrones with no violence.

00:11:03.980 Right.

00:11:04.120 And no dragons.

00:11:06.040 No, no dragons.

00:11:07.040 No dragons.

00:11:07.540 No sex.

00:11:08.600 Because they treat women terribly in Game of Thrones, I'm sure.

00:11:11.740 But it's not.

00:11:12.700 It's part of the storyline.

00:11:14.880 So I was watching a show.

00:11:18.100 I can't give you.

00:11:18.780 I do this every time.

00:11:19.860 I'm like, it's a story about Versailles.

00:11:24.380 What is the name of the show?

00:11:25.240 Oh, yeah.

00:11:25.760 Versailles.

00:11:26.160 So it's a, it's a, it's some, you know, you know, Game of Thrones kind of show about King

00:11:34.900 Louis, who was, you know, King at four.

00:11:39.100 But then when he turned, you know, in his twenties, his mom dies and he becomes King and

00:11:44.480 he has to make the decisions and stuff.

00:11:47.220 And he is, he's building Versailles.

00:11:49.300 I don't, you know, uh, he wasn't good to women.

00:11:54.580 Really?

00:11:55.200 No, he wasn't.

00:11:56.480 It seems like a trend, uh, back then where he could just, he could go all Katy Perry at

00:12:04.900 any time.

00:12:05.500 Right.

00:12:05.820 He could just grab you and kiss you and, uh, and other things and other things.

00:12:10.560 Yeah.

00:12:11.120 So I don't know if, if Hollywood watches their own shows or their own movies, but, uh,

00:12:19.300 historically speaking, some guys were bad.

00:12:24.860 Yeah.

00:12:25.480 Yeah.

00:12:25.820 Yeah.

00:12:26.160 And it's, uh, interesting to see the complaints today about how evil men are.

00:12:31.900 My, my, my daughter started watching Mad Men for the first time and she said, dad, have

00:12:38.000 you ever seen it?

00:12:38.660 And I said, oh yeah.

00:12:39.880 And she's like, I couldn't believe it.

00:12:42.920 And I'm like, yeah, well that's the way it was.

00:12:45.600 That's the way it was.

00:12:46.800 It just, it just, it just guys were like that.

00:12:49.020 If you watch, um, uh, the post, you know, the one with the Washington, yeah.

00:12:54.960 The Washington post story with, uh, Tom Hanks.

00:12:57.260 Yeah.

00:12:57.800 Okay.

00:12:58.000 So mediocre Meryl Streep.

00:13:00.460 That's her, that's her full name, by the way.

00:13:02.020 I don't really, I mean, if, if you, if you have to balance all of her movies, I would

00:13:07.480 agree with you.

00:13:08.260 For instance, I think it makes you below mediocre.

00:13:11.660 Even if everything you've ever done, you've won an Oscar and you actually deserved it.

00:13:17.740 Okay.

00:13:18.180 Like you were conservative, but you were still winning the Oscars.

00:13:21.700 Sure.

00:13:22.380 Just that ABBA movie.

00:13:24.320 Oh my God.

00:13:25.220 Makes you below mediocre.

00:13:27.340 Yes.

00:13:27.680 Okay.

00:13:27.860 So I'll agree with you.

00:13:28.640 Um, but anyway, she has a line in that movie where she said, you know, I didn't, I didn't,

00:13:35.880 I'm not the one.

00:13:37.240 Your father was the one that was supposed to run the paper.

00:13:40.080 Okay.

00:13:40.520 It was your dad that was supposed to run the paper, not me.

00:13:44.480 And she's talking to her daughter and she said, cause we never thought of it.

00:13:48.880 I'm a woman.

00:13:49.860 We just, it was different.

00:13:52.100 We just never thought of it.

00:13:55.180 So it was a different world.

00:13:57.740 Well, now we're thinking about it.

00:13:59.800 No, no.

00:14:00.940 I think there was a time of couple of years ago that we were thinking about it.

00:14:06.040 Now we're just feeling about it.

00:14:08.460 Now we're just feeling about it.

00:14:10.520 I, I went to pirates of the Caribbean and there is, there is a dog at the end that has

00:14:21.800 access to the keys and then these, these men are trying to trick the dog with a bone

00:14:29.000 and he's not cause he's smart cause he's a dog.

00:14:32.400 He's not being tricked, but eventually it's been there for 51 years.

00:14:35.940 Eventually he's going to trick that dog and dogs shouldn't be tricked by people in jail.

00:14:42.800 We're going to, you know what?

00:14:44.340 We always embrace your feelings.

00:14:46.360 We see how you feel and others may, of course, no one in their right mind, but others may

00:14:52.700 feel that way.

00:14:53.420 So we're going to remove the prisoners.

00:14:56.220 And so we'll just leave the dog there, but we're going to make the dog mayor.

00:15:00.560 He'll be a dog mayor and he'll be abolishing all prisons for other dogs.

00:15:09.100 Now it doesn't really fit in the pirates of the Caribbean storyline, but we feel what

00:15:15.440 you're feeling.

00:15:17.220 And that's, what's important right now.

00:15:18.260 The field.

00:15:18.980 It is.

00:15:19.560 What are your, no thinking, no thinking, none.

00:15:23.340 You know, okay.

00:15:23.940 All right.

00:15:24.360 All right.

00:15:24.640 All right.

00:15:25.440 You want to be in, uh, you, uh, can you get the blind orphan audio ready, please?

00:15:30.800 I can.

00:15:31.900 It's a part of a longer.

00:15:33.420 There is a, yeah, but is it part of a longer clip or is it separate?

00:15:37.140 It's part of a longer clip.

00:15:39.300 Okay.

00:15:39.660 So, um, I want to show you offensive.

00:15:46.320 I just want to show you offensive and I want to show you offensive for a reason.

00:15:50.140 Freedom of speech.

00:15:53.440 We'll do that coming up in a second.

00:16:00.420 I was listening to the Glenn Beck program today and I, I just felt that he was raping me.

00:16:08.600 He was verbally raping me on radio.

00:16:11.660 Yes.

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00:17:36.980 Glenn Beck Mercury.

00:17:40.600 Glenn Beck.

00:17:47.340 So, Ricky Gervais just put out a new Netflix special and it is really offensive but really, really funny.

00:17:55.500 And his whole point is, you know, let's stop being offended by everything.

00:17:59.420 He talks a little bit about how he, how he teases his girlfriend about how the jokes he's going to tell just to freak her out.

00:18:07.800 And he said, you know, when I was going to do the Golden Globes, these are some of the jokes that I told her I was going to tell.

00:18:15.040 Even on the day, on the way to the red carpet or in the limo, just to wind her up, I said, oh, I'm going to start off with a funny little one-liner, just an old-fashioned joke.

00:18:24.100 She went, oh, what?

00:18:24.980 I said, um, what did the deaf, dumb and blind orphan get for Christmas?

00:18:29.700 And Jane went, I don't know.

00:18:30.900 I said, oh, it's a little dark.

00:18:43.280 He's really funny.

00:18:48.220 That, that, uh, you've been playing that as we were prepping for the show.

00:18:52.120 It's going to be three days to get through the thing, but it is hysterical.

00:18:56.100 My gosh, it's hysterical.

00:18:58.660 Uh, you know, the, the, the, he, he makes the point in the end, uh, and he, he tries to drive it home all the time that there are.

00:19:06.860 And we'll go, I want to play a couple of other clips where he, he got in trouble about talking about Kate Jenner.

00:19:12.460 And he's like, you have to understand the joke.

00:19:17.380 You have to understand the joke.

00:19:20.920 And, and people don't, they're just offended.

00:19:24.120 And, uh, reactionary is what reactionary.

00:19:27.100 And they're just not thinking, you know, he said, he said, you know, they keep taking referendums because the politicians are too, you know, weak and spineless.

00:19:34.600 And he's like, you know, let's ask the people.

00:19:36.660 And he said, let's, let's not ask the people.

00:19:39.300 Let's really not.

00:19:40.200 Do you know how stupid people are?

00:19:41.560 He said, when we can take off the little sign off of bleach that says, do not drink.

00:19:48.740 Then let's ask the people.

00:19:50.100 In fact, let's take that off for two years.

00:19:54.720 Then let's hold a referendum.

00:19:59.820 It's interesting too, because he, he, they, people say it's not funny if you have to explain the joke.

00:20:04.300 He proves that completely wrong, completely wrong.

00:20:06.860 And you've got to hear this about Caitlyn Jenner.

00:20:09.940 Uh, when we come back.

00:20:11.560 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:20:23.540 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:38.920 Shiver.

00:20:40.200 Hashtag me.

00:20:41.020 Tumbers.

00:20:41.500 Uh, the debate is raging on this morning as, uh, as, as it has been announced that Disney is finally,

00:20:49.980 finally doing something about the oppressive audio, uh, audio animatronic pirates that have been in their ploy employ for 51 years now.

00:21:00.560 And they have done nothing, nothing to stop the objectification and sale of robot, robotic women by other robotic pirates.

00:21:11.940 Because it is very, very dangerous for little girls to see that kind of treatment of women by robotic pirates.

00:21:20.420 They're very influenced by media, Glenn.

00:21:22.680 Well, no, not movies or Cosmo, you know, or games or anything like that.

00:21:28.780 Just robotic pirates on a boat ride.

00:21:32.940 Hugely influential on people.

00:21:34.340 A little girl's lives.

00:21:35.060 You can't just show them that kind of stuff, you know, have them at home where it's safe with Cosmo and television and, you know, porn, porn, you know, or, uh, you know, pregnant in 16 on MTV.

00:21:50.500 You know, let's have some wholesome, you know, positive stereo role models in their, in their life.

00:21:56.600 Not these, not these, not these strangely white men pirates.

00:22:01.720 Uh, cause, but anyway, uh, you know, I, I digress.

00:22:06.400 I digress.

00:22:07.100 Uh, I think we all are, I think we're all on the same page about stopping the, not the pillaging, but the rape that is happening.

00:22:15.580 Well, not the rape, but the sale of these women, the perpetual sale of these women.

00:22:21.620 They never are actually married to these pirates.

00:22:24.120 They're forced to live just the auction block over and over and over again, every two and a half minutes.

00:22:32.440 And I think we can, we can all agree.

00:22:34.820 That's got to stop.

00:22:36.680 It's got to stop.

00:22:38.100 Forget about actual slavery.

00:22:39.960 Okay.

00:22:40.780 Forget about it.

00:22:41.520 In fact, don't look at it.

00:22:42.660 No, don't, don't look at it.

00:22:44.680 Yes.

00:22:45.020 Do not look at actual slavery that is happening to women and children all around the world in the Middle East forever.

00:22:53.120 I mean, that just hashtag that.

00:22:54.420 If you have to look at it, just hashtag, but don't do anything about it.

00:22:57.300 Okay.

00:22:58.080 We've got to organize and thank goodness we didn't have to because Disney is a caring company.

00:23:04.080 Um, uh, but we have to organize and stop any audio animatronic perpetual auction of women.

00:23:11.280 Of the three kinds of slavery that most people discuss.

00:23:14.820 Number one, obviously robotic slavery.

00:23:16.720 Yeah.

00:23:17.100 Well, you should always react terribly to that.

00:23:19.580 Okay.

00:23:19.820 And you should always really make sure, like, act as if it's a current issue, the slavery in the United States of America.

00:23:26.200 Uh, that is a couple, a couple centuries ago.

00:23:28.680 So, but you know what?

00:23:29.840 You should not react to it all.

00:23:30.960 The current slavery going on right now.

00:23:32.340 That's bigger than any of the slavery that went on hundreds of years ago.

00:23:34.860 Yeah.

00:23:35.040 Yeah.

00:23:35.180 Yeah.

00:23:35.360 Yeah.

00:23:35.440 Whatever.

00:23:35.840 Whatever.

00:23:36.200 Shut up.

00:23:36.520 I don't want to hear that.

00:23:37.300 Um, uh, listen, uh, I have to tell you if, if I had a dollar for every study that has been produced in the last 51 years that showed the harmful effects that, that girls have had being exposed to that horror in Disneyland.

00:23:58.600 Well, I, I'd have, well, I'd have less than a dollar today and I think we need to think about that probably should.

00:24:09.380 Well, that requires us to think.

00:24:11.300 So let's just feel about something else.

00:24:13.820 I want to be offended.

00:24:14.960 Okay.

00:24:15.120 Tell me how I can be offended.

00:24:16.600 All right.

00:24:16.880 I'm going to help you.

00:24:17.820 Okay.

00:24:18.420 Let's all be pissed at, uh, Ricky Gervais.

00:24:21.700 Let's just be pissed at him.

00:24:23.180 All right.

00:24:23.620 Do not laugh.

00:24:24.840 Do not consider this a joke because it is not a joke.

00:24:30.400 Ricky Gervais is done a new Netflix special and it's called, I think just humanity.

00:24:36.340 It's really funny, but I warn you, you're going to be offended, especially if you're Bill Cosby and he's talking about jokes that, uh, he was considering telling, uh, about Bill Cosby.

00:24:50.860 And about three days before this last one, right, just to wind Jane up, I said, oh, I've got a good intro.

00:24:56.340 She went, what?

00:24:56.700 I said, um, uh, Bill Cosby would make our next present asleep on the couch.

00:25:02.620 Please welcome Helen Mirren.

00:25:05.680 I didn't do it.

00:25:06.960 I didn't do it.

00:25:09.060 She went, you're not going to do it.

00:25:10.100 I said, no, no, I'm not going to do that.

00:25:11.920 Next day I got her again.

00:25:13.420 I said, is this too much then?

00:25:14.800 I said, not even Bill Cosby carries enough tranquilizer to bring down this next magnificent beast.

00:25:22.420 Please welcome Melissa McCarthy.

00:25:25.740 I didn't do it.

00:25:27.240 I would never, I'd never tell a joke like that.

00:25:31.020 It's horrible.

00:25:31.720 I just, I was just doing it to annoy Jane.

00:25:34.200 I'd never, I'd never even.

00:25:36.360 Okay.

00:25:36.940 So, so again, his point is you have to understand a joke.

00:25:41.680 And so he tells a joke that he did do on stage that everybody got upset about.

00:25:48.420 Here it is.

00:25:49.360 And the big controversy last time I did it was a Caitlyn Jenner joke, right?

00:25:54.100 Oh, outrage on Twitter the next day.

00:25:56.160 And by outrage, I mean a couple of people going, it was transphobic.

00:26:00.500 It wasn't transphobic in the slightest.

00:26:02.500 It was a joke about a trans person, but the joke had nothing to do with that aspect of her existence.

00:26:07.860 And that's the other thing about offense.

00:26:09.200 Yes, people get offended when they mistake the subject of a joke with the actual target.

00:26:13.280 And they're not necessarily the same.

00:26:14.640 I'll tell you the joke.

00:26:15.640 You make your own minds up.

00:26:16.800 Right.

00:26:17.520 So.

00:26:22.720 It's live.

00:26:23.800 So they go, and now your host for the 68th annual Golden Globe Awards.

00:26:27.980 Please welcome Ricky Gervais.

00:26:29.560 They go, and they're all clapping.

00:26:30.780 All the actors are looking up, smiling at me nervously.

00:26:33.140 It's brilliant.

00:26:33.940 Right.

00:26:34.080 So I just go, relax.

00:26:38.540 I'm going to be nice tonight.

00:26:40.180 I've changed.

00:26:41.580 Not as much as Bruce Jenner.

00:26:42.800 I just go, and I go, now Caitlyn Jenner, of course.

00:26:53.460 And what a year she's had.

00:26:55.020 Became a role model for trans people everywhere.

00:26:57.780 Bravely breaking down barriers and destroying stereotypes.

00:27:00.660 She didn't do a lot for women drivers.

00:27:07.040 I mean, you know, again, that's not a joke about whether she's trans or not.

00:27:18.760 That's a joke about her running over someone and killing them.

00:27:22.440 Right.

00:27:22.700 Do we have another part?

00:27:23.680 Do we have another part of that?

00:27:24.800 Or did we leave it alone?

00:27:25.760 Because he gets dicey.

00:27:26.840 Yeah, because he says in this, he's like, let's remember that the joke here is about

00:27:32.560 a celebrity that killed a person and then went home and put a dress on.

00:27:37.760 I mean, that's his joke.

00:27:39.340 And it's, you know, it had nothing to do with him or her being transgendered and when that

00:27:47.800 happened.

00:27:48.260 And he explains, how do we even talk to each other?

00:27:50.880 If I can't, because you're not supposed to, what did he call it, name, date them?

00:27:59.420 I can't remember what it was, but you can't, you no longer can even say that they used to

00:28:04.900 be a man.

00:28:06.400 You can not say that.

00:28:08.000 That is offensive to people like Caitlyn Jenner that you can't.

00:28:12.920 And he's like, how can I possibly?

00:28:15.780 He's like, we all saw him.

00:28:17.580 At one point, he was a pole vaulter.

00:28:20.780 That was him.

00:28:22.380 He made the choice and made the change.

00:28:24.660 But now we have to pretend that his life didn't happen as a him now that he's a her.

00:28:30.320 That's insane.

00:28:31.360 Yeah.

00:28:31.540 And I don't even think actually Caitlyn Jenner is offended by that.

00:28:35.440 I don't think so either.

00:28:36.180 It's the people who are arguing on Caitlyn Jenner's behalf.

00:28:40.640 Yeah.

00:28:41.060 You know, they're allowed to get outraged on her behalf.

00:28:43.980 And that's the thing.

00:28:44.840 We have to stop worrying about, you know, there was a, there was a story came out a

00:28:50.540 couple of days ago that Facebook interaction is down 23%.

00:28:58.260 Now, why is that happening, Stu?

00:29:00.920 What's the common reason for that, that all the experts are, you know, all the TV people

00:29:07.920 are saying?

00:29:09.680 I don't know.

00:29:10.540 I mean, there's a, I haven't been following it.

00:29:12.300 No.

00:29:12.780 Well, there's the theory of the algorithm changing.

00:29:15.080 Yeah.

00:29:15.260 Okay.

00:29:15.600 So the algorithm is changed and they're saying, you know, that, you know, that's just changing,

00:29:20.240 that's just changing people's participation.

00:29:22.020 Well, is it?

00:29:24.700 It might be.

00:29:26.020 It might be.

00:29:26.660 The algorithm change changes a lot of stuff.

00:29:29.760 However, is it possible that any part of that 23% is people just saying, I don't want

00:29:38.300 to be on this anymore.

00:29:39.160 I'm not going to react to it anymore.

00:29:41.020 I'm not going to, I'm just not going to answer all of this.

00:29:44.780 I'm not going to get into it.

00:29:45.920 I might post my things for my family or as I post things that I'm interested in, but I

00:29:51.080 don't, I don't interact like I used to because it's just vile.

00:29:55.040 It's just vile.

00:29:56.900 I don't interact with Twitter.

00:29:58.360 I might, I tweet some stuff out, but I don't necessarily interact with it.

00:30:03.860 Occasionally, if I'm in a mood, if I'm like, you know what, I, I really need to get some

00:30:08.620 hostility out.

00:30:09.640 Right.

00:30:09.920 But that's what everyone's doing all the time.

00:30:11.980 Right.

00:30:12.300 Which is why it's not fun.

00:30:13.420 Correct.

00:30:14.080 No, I think that's true.

00:30:15.300 I think it's a, I think there's part of, at least I'd like to believe it's true.

00:30:20.280 How about that instead?

00:30:21.440 Let me rework it to, I'd like to believe it's true.

00:30:23.780 Because I think there is a thing going on where, you know, like I grew up, you know,

00:30:29.000 product of the eighties, generally speaking, you know, at times have been easy.

00:30:33.020 My life's been easy.

00:30:34.100 I mean, I, I look back at, and, and, you know, others, uh, we look at history all the time.

00:30:38.460 There have been eras of this freaking society that have sucked.

00:30:42.220 Oh my God.

00:30:42.440 I mean, really hard to live, hard to survive, hard to get through the day, terrible things

00:30:48.640 happening.

00:30:49.060 There have been eras of this country and certainly around the globe and still are that are really

00:30:54.920 like challenging to, to your daily existence.

00:30:58.180 And in your entire life was difficult.

00:31:01.120 I feel like there's that, there's some human need to find that conflict, to find that.

00:31:08.720 Can we, but can we, can we calm down on it a bit though?

00:31:11.240 Cause you know, I don't need it.

00:31:12.680 Most kids have shoes now.

00:31:14.580 Yeah.

00:31:14.900 That's what I mean.

00:31:15.540 I was like, most kids have, you know, I, I, I saw something, what was it?

00:31:18.580 I was watching, uh, uh, I was watching some documentary and it was on, it was on, uh, America

00:31:25.420 and the West in 1890, I think.

00:31:30.380 Oh my gosh.

00:31:31.520 The abject poverty and the way people were treating each other and life was so expendable.

00:31:37.700 And, and it was just, it was, it was, you were cold, you were wet, you were hungry.

00:31:44.860 Life was brutal.

00:31:46.280 Then you died.

00:31:47.800 Oh my God.

00:31:48.480 I mean, we have, uh, uh, Steven Pinker coming on, I think next week.

00:31:51.500 Uh, he's an author.

00:31:52.620 It's great.

00:31:53.260 His, one of his previous books was called angels of, uh, of our better nature.

00:31:57.340 Yeah.

00:31:57.800 Um, and it's a great book.

00:31:59.420 Um, you gotta get past the, he's not a big fan of religions.

00:32:02.640 In fact, he's like, he's like on issues.

00:32:05.020 He needs some therapy on the religion thing, but he's describing, uh, the eras that we've

00:32:11.380 had before these.

00:32:12.400 And there's so impossibly dark that violence was a real part of everyone's life on a daily

00:32:19.880 basis.

00:32:20.680 And yes, look, we're talking about what's, what happened in Florida.

00:32:23.220 And is that a part of our life?

00:32:24.420 Yes.

00:32:25.040 However, the, the violence rates are so much lower and the, the idea that something like

00:32:30.760 this could happen, it's much more of an outlier than it used to be.

00:32:33.760 It kind of goes, it kind of goes to this.

00:32:37.180 If I was living in other parts of the world, if I was living in Africa,

00:32:42.680 Pirates of the Caribbean would not be funny because they're real and they come and they

00:32:48.480 rape you and they kill all of your family.

00:32:51.900 So it's not funny.

00:32:52.940 You, you're not going to find in Yemen, uh, you know, a new Disney, yeah, Somalia, a new

00:32:58.180 Disney theme park where look, we've got pirates of Somalia.

00:33:02.040 I would be selling my Disney stock right away if they made that decision.

00:33:05.180 It's not happening.

00:33:06.760 Right.

00:33:06.900 Okay.

00:33:07.100 Because it's real.

00:33:08.200 We have gotten to a point to where that stuff isn't real anymore.

00:33:13.860 That's how much progress we've made.

00:33:15.980 It's not real.

00:33:17.760 That's great.

00:33:18.420 Right.

00:33:18.940 And I feel like we tend to substitute that human, you know, moment of where the hell's

00:33:26.140 my next meal coming from?

00:33:27.740 Uh, oh my God, am I going to get stabbed tomorrow?

00:33:29.600 And we just try to find it in this like online outrage cycle.

00:33:34.040 I don't know if we, I don't know if we do it.

00:33:36.400 I don't know if we try to find it or it's just because, because you're not trying to

00:33:41.100 find it when, when you are now think of this, you know, federal express, you know, couldn't

00:33:46.620 get funding because you didn't need it tomorrow, but you have an internet problem that slows

00:33:51.440 you down and you can't load a page in what?

00:33:54.900 10 seconds.

00:33:55.760 You're pissed.

00:33:56.700 You're like, what the hell is wrong with my internet?

00:33:59.160 Dude, we've got a problem.

00:34:01.260 We've got a real problem.

00:34:04.780 Chill out.

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00:35:50.100 Uh, we have, uh, an interview with Larry Kudlow tonight at five o'clock.

00:35:55.800 You don't want to miss now.

00:35:58.400 Larry is, I mean, I think this is a great exchange.

00:36:01.660 Uh, there's some, there's some upgrades that I think are happening, um, in the Trump administration,

00:36:07.540 uh, going from Cone to Kudlow.

00:36:10.840 I'll take that trade any day of the week.

00:36:12.940 Yeah.

00:36:13.100 Especially after, you know, seemingly the reason Cone was leaving was because of tariffs.

00:36:17.300 Uh, there's, I mean, I could give you the, uh, give me, give me, give me the, give me the

00:36:22.020 line.

00:36:22.560 This is what a few days ago.

00:36:23.800 Yeah.

00:36:24.240 Um, when we impose sanctions on us enemies like North Korea, Russia, and Iran, we want them

00:36:28.600 to feel the economic pain of being deprived of imports.

00:36:31.820 But now we are imposing sanctions on our own country, putting up tariffs supposedly to

00:36:36.620 make Americans more prosperous.

00:36:38.200 If there ever was a crisis of logic, this is it.

00:36:42.020 That's from Larry Kudlow from March 3rd, 2018.

00:36:47.920 Uh, it is what March 13th today?

00:36:49.800 He had, he said that he got a phone call.

00:36:52.060 He expected the president to be reaming him.

00:36:53.780 Uh, and instead he said, I talked to him for 10 minutes.

00:36:57.720 He explained what he was doing and I'm in, I'm fully in.

00:37:00.840 Yeah.

00:37:01.040 Cone to Kudlow is a great move.

00:37:02.200 That's a great, that's an upgrade.

00:37:03.700 Great move.

00:37:04.600 So we'll, uh, I think Tillerson to Pompeo is, is an upgrade.

00:37:07.780 It is, uh, HR McMaster to John Bolton is a good move, but it's starting to get a little

00:37:15.720 scary on the guys who they get it.

00:37:19.260 They absolutely get it.

00:37:20.480 But I want to make sure that we, we, we, and that one hasn't happened yet.

00:37:23.800 Yeah.

00:37:24.040 We're not, we're not, we're not, we're not moving towards war.

00:37:27.100 Uh, we'll have more on this in coming up.

00:37:29.280 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:37:37.760 Love, courage, truth.

00:37:42.400 Glenn Beck.

00:37:43.740 Okay.

00:37:43.880 I'm going to tell you, you know, a story that you might've read on social media, and then

00:37:48.220 I'm going to tell you the truth about it.

00:37:49.880 Okay.

00:37:50.340 So if you read it on social media, here's what you heard this week, a polite, slightly

00:37:55.420 awkward, 19 year old from Oklahoma, gray star television sets.

00:38:00.540 Millions of homes were cheering for him.

00:38:02.920 He had his acoustic guitar in hand.

00:38:04.920 His name is Benjamin glaze.

00:38:06.440 He was ready to show the American Idol judges that he could do it.

00:38:10.980 He could do it.

00:38:11.560 What he could do with his talent would amaze America.

00:38:15.380 But before he could even start his song, one of the judges asked him a personal question.

00:38:20.140 It was country singer, Luke Bryan.

00:38:21.960 Asked Ben if he'd ever kissed a girl.

00:38:23.780 And Ben's explained innocently enough.

00:38:26.060 Well, gosh, Mr. Bryan, no, I, I have never been in a relationship and I can't kiss a girl

00:38:32.000 without being in a relationship.

00:38:34.020 And then Katy Perry, the most high profile judge on this season of American Idol, immediately

00:38:42.020 asked Ben to approach the judges table.

00:38:45.140 She stuck her face toward him and teasingly requested one on the cheek.

00:38:50.920 Well, everybody could tell that Ben was embarrassed.

00:38:53.640 But what can you do?

00:38:54.640 It's television.

00:38:55.560 Katy Perry asked you to kiss her on the cheek.

00:38:58.040 National television.

00:38:59.160 He didn't want to be impolite.

00:39:00.800 So he begrudgingly gave her a peck.

00:39:03.300 But Katy wasn't satisfied that animal.

00:39:07.500 So she asked for another.

00:39:09.420 But this time, Katy tricked the lanky.

00:39:12.520 Some might call him just sweetly naive teenager and kissed him on the mouth.

00:39:19.600 She raised her arms in victory and everyone laughed.

00:39:24.520 Ben laughed, too, in a feeble effort to play along.

00:39:28.780 Ben later told the New York Times that he wanted to save that kiss for his first relationship.

00:39:34.020 He said, I know a lot of guys would say, heck, yeah, but I was raised in a conservative family.

00:39:39.900 And I was I was uncomfortable immediately.

00:39:42.060 I wanted that first kiss to be special.

00:39:45.560 What a beautiful message from an unexpected place.

00:39:48.920 But Hollywood just won't stop.

00:39:51.140 OK, so now that's the story that I read online.

00:39:53.660 And then I went back because I thought, how is Disney Disney of all people?

00:39:58.260 ABC Disney doing this in the hashtag me to world.

00:40:03.020 They're now having this happen.

00:40:05.700 Wait, how is that working?

00:40:07.420 How about he didn't want to kiss?

00:40:10.420 And then the video started and I watched.

00:40:13.700 OK, all right.

00:40:16.840 Before you get outraged.

00:40:18.460 This is a complete, a complete and total stunt.

00:40:23.720 He may never have kissed a girl.

00:40:25.720 He may be that gosh darn kind of guy.

00:40:28.540 But this was totally set up.

00:40:31.180 You can see it from the get go in the video.

00:40:33.960 It is it is absolutely scripted.

00:40:37.080 And it's it's more fake than the fake pirate auction of women in Pirates of the Caribbean.

00:40:45.860 It just is.

00:40:47.440 And you know what, Disney?

00:40:49.320 We're tired of being played for.

00:40:51.820 You know, we're tired of being the rube.

00:40:55.900 We're tired of being, you know, look down on and mocked and just treat it like we're stupid.

00:41:00.640 We're not that stupid.

00:41:05.480 In a time in the world when there are actual things that are really frightening that are going on in a time of the world where we are being taught that there is no objective reality,

00:41:15.280 no truth, no objective morals at all.

00:41:20.440 The American people are starving, starving for something that is true and authentic and real.

00:41:29.960 Here's an idea.

00:41:32.120 Why doesn't somebody in Hollywood or in the media actually start to give us that?

00:41:37.440 It's Thursday, March 15th.

00:41:46.940 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:50.920 We're thrilled to have in the studio with us, Joel Rosenberg, friend of the program for many, many years.

00:41:56.560 How are you doing, Joel?

00:41:57.260 I'm doing well.

00:41:57.900 Good to see you, Glenn.

00:41:58.560 Good to see you.

00:41:59.120 Now, Joel, you are speaking of truthful.

00:42:01.400 We're going right to a novelist.

00:42:03.240 Yes.

00:42:04.040 We need truth.

00:42:04.880 But you know what?

00:42:05.760 Explain who you used to be before you were a novelist.

00:42:09.640 Well, I'm a failed political consultant.

00:42:11.680 Everyone I worked for lost in Washington, helped Steve Forbes lose two presidential campaigns,

00:42:17.020 was on Bibi Netanyahu's comeback campaign in 2000.

00:42:20.720 It took him nine more years to come back.

00:42:22.660 But anyway.

00:42:23.560 So you've been around on the losing team.

00:42:26.380 That's true.

00:42:26.900 So to give you some credibility, you have done that.

00:42:29.580 Okay.

00:42:29.980 I tried.

00:42:30.400 But you're a guy who has passionately cared about the issues,

00:42:33.680 and you've been around, you know, the people in the know, seen the things,

00:42:41.100 but from being around some of those people.

00:42:43.500 That's true.

00:42:43.820 I learned a lot from them.

00:42:44.840 And they may not have benefited from me, but I benefited from them a lot.

00:42:47.780 Correct.

00:42:48.200 And so you've been studying mainly the Middle East.

00:42:51.340 People would say, I think, people would say, you know,

00:42:53.820 he's mainly a guy who writes about the Middle East and has really studied that.

00:42:58.940 I think I know you better, that you would include Russia in all of your studies of the Middle East

00:43:06.900 because of the Gog and Magog connection, if I'm not mistaken.

00:43:11.960 Well, certainly there's a prophetic angle to Russia and something I've been fascinated with.

00:43:15.620 And Russia has had a hand in meddling and causing destabilization in the Middle East for the last century.

00:43:23.480 So if you're going to be interested in the Middle East, I live in Jerusalem.

00:43:27.180 I'm a U.S. Israeli citizen.

00:43:29.060 By the way, that means I get to vote twice.

00:43:31.080 It's like living in Chicago.

00:43:32.380 So that's nice.

00:43:33.480 But yeah, Russia is going to be a player anywhere, but particularly in the Middle East.

00:43:37.420 But also my family, Glenn, on my father's side is Jewish, Gentile on my mom's side.

00:43:43.240 I'm an evangelical.

00:43:44.680 But my dad's side were Orthodox Jews that escaped out of Russia under Tsar Nicholas II.

00:43:50.460 So part in our heritage, our history, our DNA, we have always had a deep concern about evil rising in Russia

00:44:01.060 and what it can do when the world doesn't see it coming.

00:44:04.180 So your book, it's called The Kremlin Conspiracy.

00:44:07.860 And I have to tell you, I know you started, how long ago did you start writing this?

00:44:10.960 A year and a half?

00:44:11.820 I started writing it two years ago, researching a little bit before.

00:44:14.840 Yeah.

00:44:15.060 Okay.

00:44:15.220 So two years ago, you started writing it.

00:44:17.000 It is as if you wrote it literally this week.

00:44:20.980 I mean, it's amazing.

00:44:23.660 We talk about my novels.

00:44:25.220 From the time you and I first met on CNN, then Fox, now here, you've been saying,

00:44:30.740 well, these are like ripped from tomorrow's headlines and like today's headlines.

00:44:34.020 Yeah.

00:44:34.180 It's now.

00:44:34.740 Yeah.

00:44:35.040 Yeah.

00:44:35.220 This one is remarkable.

00:44:38.160 Quickly explain the premise of the novel.

00:44:40.720 Sure.

00:44:40.820 And then I want to kind of get into the nuts and bolts of what's really happening and how

00:44:44.180 it plays out in the book.

00:44:45.120 So in The Kremlin Conspiracy, it's the first political story of a new series.

00:44:52.080 Alexander Luganov is the Tsar, the dictator rising in Russia.

00:44:57.060 He's not Putin, but let's call him Putin-esque.

00:44:59.440 Well, let's say it's one of those movies where they make it an extra bold type that says,

00:45:07.000 this is fictional characters.

00:45:09.180 But you look at it and you're like, yeah, okay.

00:45:12.360 Yes, probably.

00:45:13.720 But there's a lot of Putin.

00:45:15.840 There's a lot of Putin.

00:45:17.040 Yeah.

00:45:17.300 That's true.

00:45:17.680 So, and I'll explain why in a moment, but all right, so you got Luganov, he's rising

00:45:23.000 in Russia.

00:45:23.660 We see him from two different angles.

00:45:26.260 His son-in-law, Oleg Kraskin, actually marries into the family early in the book.

00:45:31.160 And now he's not only a family member in this godfather-like family, but he is hired as a

00:45:38.440 senior aide to Luganov.

00:45:39.760 So we have inside access, in a sense, into the Kremlin inner circle through the eyes of

00:45:44.660 this young lawyer who's a bit young, naive.

00:45:48.100 He's sharp, but he's not, he doesn't understand what he's getting himself into.

00:45:52.860 We're toggling back and forth through the Kremlin conspiracy with an American, Marcus

00:45:58.620 Riker, who after 9-11 joins the Marines, gets sent to Afghanistan, ends up joining the

00:46:05.220 United States Secret Service.

00:46:06.420 And through a series of tragedies I won't talk about, I don't want to give too much

00:46:10.360 away, he finds himself in Moscow, and Oleg and Marcus's lives converge at the most dangerous

00:46:18.800 moment in U.S.-Russian relations.

00:46:21.960 Big picture, what's happening with Luganov is he's got a new president in Washington, not

00:46:27.780 well-versed in foreign and national security policy.

00:46:31.120 The president's eyes are on North Korea and Iran, understandably so.

00:46:35.300 But Luganov decides to take a gamble.

00:46:39.320 While the world is focused on Asia and the Middle East, he decides to go grab one, two,

00:46:44.840 or all three of the Baltic states, the NATO allies right on the border of Russia, Estonia,

00:46:49.920 Latvia, Lithuania.

00:46:51.100 He figures with 100,000 troops, a lightning fast strike, he could grab one, two, or maybe

00:46:56.560 all three in 96 hours.

00:46:58.800 Now, you say, that's insane.

00:47:00.300 Why would a Russian leader, even in fiction, go grab a NATO ally that's covered and protected

00:47:06.900 by Article 5, the Mutual Defense Pact, which says if one country's attacked in NATO, everybody

00:47:12.260 comes to its defense.

00:47:13.560 I know the answer.

00:47:14.400 I think I know the answer.

00:47:15.600 Even before I read the book, I can tell you the answer.

00:47:18.800 Nobody wants nuclear war with Russia.

00:47:20.560 Right.

00:47:21.100 Right.

00:47:21.260 And so Luganov's gamble is, nobody's going to stop me.

00:47:24.800 If I actually grab it and hold even one of them, is the United States of America, is NATO

00:47:31.040 going to actually go to even conventional war with me, and are they going to risk nuclear

00:47:35.940 war with Russia over a country most Americans cannot find on a map?

00:47:40.320 And his theory is no.

00:47:41.540 And he thinks, if the answer really is no, if NATO does not defend NATO, that's the end

00:47:47.760 of NATO.

00:47:48.240 In 96 hours, I can collapse the entire Western alliance because they won't do it.

00:47:55.200 That's the theory of the novel.

00:47:56.580 Kremlin conspiracy.

00:47:57.540 So now let me tell you the reality.

00:48:00.520 So Putin, who has nothing to do with this book, has been trying to collapse.

00:48:07.600 I haven't been poisoned yet.

00:48:08.560 That's a starter.

00:48:09.520 I know.

00:48:10.020 We're just getting started.

00:48:10.800 Has said that he is wanting to collapse the NATO alliance and wants to collapse the Western

00:48:18.900 world and has just last week poisoned with a nerve gas that is clearly from Russia.

00:48:28.740 It's only made in Russia.

00:48:30.440 It's only kept in Russia.

00:48:32.540 21 people who are going to be vegetables for the rest of their life if they live.

00:48:37.540 There is no cure from this nerve agent.

00:48:40.260 It is a nasty, nasty nerve agent.

00:48:44.020 He's called on the carpet.

00:48:46.060 Theresa May says, well, you better answer.

00:48:48.780 There's going to be, you know, something that's going to happen.

00:48:53.040 She pulls out Putin mocks her.

00:48:57.480 The foreign ministry mocks it.

00:49:00.140 The London embassy, the Russian embassy issues joke photos in response.

00:49:07.940 Take does not take it seriously at all.

00:49:10.240 It's almost as if Putin is giving us one real push to see, will they actually do anything?

00:49:20.280 And the answer is no, we won't.

00:49:22.500 Well, they're not going to the World Cup.

00:49:24.080 So that's something.

00:49:25.220 I mean, the royal family isn't.

00:49:26.620 Yeah.

00:49:26.880 But, you know.

00:49:27.540 Yeah.

00:49:27.800 But they didn't say that.

00:49:28.840 Right.

00:49:29.000 The team might go, but the team might go, but the royal family will not go.

00:49:33.820 Right.

00:49:34.080 Look, the way NATO needs to handle this is finally getting serious with sanctions.

00:49:40.580 You have to target specific individuals in the Kremlin and you have to go after the money.

00:49:44.740 This is not something you would go to war over, but it's definitely something you've got to hit them where they count.

00:49:52.560 And, you know, one of the things I do in this book, one of the things that fiction can do is take people outside of the day-to-day tactical headlines and sort of separate out whatever you feel about a specific leader at a specific moment.

00:50:09.400 So by making this fiction, by not calling him Putin, by creating him Putin-esque with a lot of details, but then getting to play with it a bit, extrapolate it, it allows you to cause people to lose themselves in reality for a moment and go into this fictional world.

00:50:27.560 And in this world, Luganov is a czar.

00:50:32.540 Now, my family has literally physically escaped from the czar, Nicholas II.

00:50:36.760 But what are the czars?

00:50:37.680 This is, you know, Putin is not a communist.

00:50:41.080 He's not an ideologue in the communist pure sense.

00:50:44.360 We may want to talk about where he's coming from ideologically.

00:50:47.960 But part of it is he's a monarchist.

00:50:50.060 He believes that Russia has been humiliated by the collapse of the Soviet Union and that they need to rebuild the glory of Mother Russia.

00:50:58.880 This is deep in his psyche.

00:51:01.800 So Luganov is this person.

00:51:03.560 He's a rising czar, which means he wants to expand the borders.

00:51:07.000 It doesn't mean he's going to grab and control every country, but he wants to knuckle them under his thumb.

00:51:14.260 He's also a godfather.

00:51:15.860 He is a mafia boss, but he's not Sonny Corleone.

00:51:19.520 He's not a rash, hot-headed, impulsive thug.

00:51:23.480 He is Michael Corleone.

00:51:25.040 He's a cold, calculated killer.

00:51:28.140 So we're going to take from the fiction and see what we're supposed to learn on what we can do to stop the actual Michael Corleone, who is currently in the Kremlin.

00:51:39.980 The book is The Kremlin Conspiracy.

00:51:50.080 Joel C. Rosenberg is with us, and we have more on a very timely book coming up in just a minute.

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00:53:09.240 Glenn Beck.

00:53:14.320 So we're with Joel Rosenberg.

00:53:16.500 He is the author of a new novel called The Kremlin Conspiracy.

00:53:20.120 And if you want to be able to, as he just said a few minutes ago, kind of see the world but not have to worry about the world.

00:53:28.000 It's a novel.

00:53:29.660 But it really is dealing exactly with much of what we're dealing with right now with Russia.

00:53:37.480 And you can try to understand the figures and how everybody is being played and what a great chess player Putin is.

00:53:46.240 He is many moves ahead, I think, of all of us.

00:53:52.680 Is there anybody, Joel, out there that you think is like that really gets Putin besides, I think, probably BB Netanyahu?

00:54:01.380 No.

00:54:02.460 I mean, not in the position of a president or prime minister.

00:54:07.060 There's a lot of, you know, experts to get him.

00:54:08.620 But, no, we've got a lot of Churchills who are out of office or they're backbenchers who are seeing him.

00:54:15.840 I mean, the guy who gets him best, Gary Kasparov, Bill Browder.

00:54:20.060 Guys who've been directly threatened by him but have taken him on face to face.

00:54:24.080 But they are working on a campaign that I think they are the Churchills of our time.

00:54:28.980 Yeah.

00:54:29.280 Actually, those two men.

00:54:31.960 And I think their tribe is beginning to increase.

00:54:34.560 In other words, they are, you know, what I'm doing is taking a different route.

00:54:38.340 They are going straight policy speeches because they're experts on these things.

00:54:42.520 And they know Putin face to face.

00:54:45.980 But one of the things that has to happen is sometimes you have to drive things out of Washington, out of Brussels, out of the political sphere, and into the popular culture so that it helps people understand evil that's rising.

00:54:59.120 Almost as long as I've known you, we've talked about the central theme to all of my novels, even though they all have different characters, different flavors.

00:55:05.720 But the theme is this.

00:55:07.260 To misunderstand the nature and threat of evil is to risk getting blindsided by it.

00:55:14.000 We were blindsided at 9-11.

00:55:15.760 We were blindsided at Pearl Harbor.

00:55:18.100 We were blindsided by the rise of Hitler and the Second World War and the Holocaust.

00:55:23.720 We shouldn't have been.

00:55:24.460 We all look back and go, there's a lot of data.

00:55:26.380 But we weren't paying attention to it because we didn't understand the nature and threat of evil.

00:55:31.900 And a lot of Western society pooh-poohs and discounts the concept that evil even exists.

00:55:38.620 So it's hard to see it if you don't even believe it's there.

00:55:41.500 There's also something in human nature that makes us want to say, no, that's not going to happen.

00:55:49.020 That's not going to happen.

00:55:50.040 You know, because we can't imagine it.

00:55:52.460 And in this particular case, we don't know what to do because none of us want nuclear war.

00:55:59.300 We don't want a war with Russia.

00:56:00.580 This is an example where, you know, okay, so the political thriller, the Kremlin conspiracy, lays out one of the worst case scenarios.

00:56:07.420 Literally in 96 hours, a Russian leader could collapse the NATO alliance.

00:56:13.080 I think that's when I started working on it two years ago, I thought, all right, well, that's a little out there.

00:56:17.760 But it's a good novel.

00:56:20.000 But now, you know, it could happen next week.

00:56:22.380 Yeah.

00:56:23.120 But here's the one way we could stop it.

00:56:26.120 President Trump and NATO could significantly scale up the deterrent forces in the Baltics to create a speed bump high enough that whatever temptation is there is mitigated and Putin backs off, looks for another victim.

00:56:41.020 And he will say, if we do that, he will say, look at the aggression of the West.

00:56:46.060 So what?

00:56:46.480 I mean, it's better than them being invaded.

00:56:48.260 Does anybody, does anybody have the courage to do that?

00:56:52.240 And I mean, when I say that, I mean, the American people.

00:56:54.900 I mean, I want to go through, I want to go through some stats that, you know, you've, you've looked at when you were writing this book about how America views Putin, views Russia.

00:57:04.000 And I'm not sure we're, I'm not sure we're all on the same page about him.

00:57:08.460 But we'll get to get to that here in just a second.

00:57:11.080 The name of the book is The Kremlin Conspiracy by Joel Rosenberg.

00:57:16.860 He is, I don't know, how many books have you written?

00:57:20.880 This is the 13th political thriller.

00:57:22.580 And they are all riveting.

00:57:25.160 And, and as he said earlier, always like rip from tomorrow's headlines.

00:57:30.720 This one literally could be, I mean, it's like he wrote it last night.

00:57:34.860 It really is.

00:57:36.360 The Kremlin Conspiracy available bookstores.

00:57:39.000 Now, back in just a second.

00:57:48.180 Glenn Beck.

00:57:50.140 Mercury.

00:57:56.340 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:57:59.620 So Joel Rosenberg is with us.

00:58:01.500 He's written a book called The Kremlin Conspiracy.

00:58:04.260 And Joel, I think, I think the Kremlin has done a brilliant job, brilliant job of making Russia and Putin in America all about Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

00:58:20.740 Yeah.

00:58:20.940 And so the Clinton people, when you're talking about, you know, was there something funny going on with, with Gazprom?

00:58:28.740 Yeah, there, there was.

00:58:30.060 I'm sorry, but the uranium one, that was a, that's a problem.

00:58:34.460 That's a problem.

00:58:35.080 I don't know if she was involved, but there's a mountain of evidence that was, was held back that even Congress couldn't see that shows that they were in bribing and doing all kinds of stuff for people all around Washington on both sides.

00:58:52.320 Here with, with the election, people are making it all about Donald Trump.

00:58:59.040 I haven't seen the evidence that there's collusion.

00:59:02.000 There, there are weird things, but he's putting people in place that are not Pompeo is not a fan of Russia.

00:59:09.620 No, I mean, no, that's the thing.

00:59:10.980 If he's, if he's, if the president, if president Trump were criminally colluding with Putin, you would not put Jim Mattis at the, at defense.

00:59:19.180 Why not?

00:59:19.400 The guy with the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.

00:59:21.740 Like, this is a guy who gets Russia, is serious about the NATO alliance.

00:59:25.380 Mike Pompeo at CIA, I've known him for years.

00:59:27.840 He's a fan of my books.

00:59:30.000 Doesn't, not the why I'm a fan of him, but he's got good, good sense.

00:59:34.840 He's Mike Pence at, at, at obviously the VP, Nikki Haley.

00:59:39.720 These are not pushovers on Putin.

00:59:42.420 So moreover, to president Trump's credit, he is driving up a U S defense spending.

00:59:48.140 When defense was hollowed out under Obama, he is pushing NATO to spend much more money for themselves on their own defense.

00:59:56.120 And they're starting to do it.

00:59:57.700 He's arming, uh, Ukraine with lethal weapons.

01:00:01.460 President Obama never did it.

01:00:02.720 He's, he, his U S special forces took out a team of Russian mercenaries trying to give us a bloody nose in Syria and kick their tails.

01:00:11.620 That was fantastic.

01:00:12.680 Listen, so none of these are soft on Putin policies, but I have to say, my concern is that president Trump is radio silent on president Putin.

01:00:25.620 No matter what Putin does, that's evil, bad, nefarious, aggressive, president Trump doesn't seem to have the desire, the willingness to, to call him out on it.

01:00:37.000 And president Trump isn't radio silent on anybody that he doesn't like.

01:00:41.620 I'm guessing you've taken a few, just, you know, spitballing here.

01:00:45.740 I live in Jerusalem now, so I'm not totally up to speed, but you know, he, president's tougher on Jeff Sessions.

01:00:53.040 Then he is on the worst dictator on the planet.

01:00:55.460 Yeah.

01:00:55.660 That doesn't mean criminally corrupt, but it doesn't mean that's weird.

01:00:59.140 Yeah.

01:00:59.380 And he look, Vladimir Lenin.

01:01:01.100 But I may say, here's the, but here's the problem.

01:01:03.620 If we go to, if we look at the public, I'm not sure because I think in, in many ways, Putin,

01:01:13.320 and then just the political machine has made this about Hillary Clinton didn't do anything wrong.

01:01:19.140 Donald Trump didn't do anything wrong.

01:01:20.580 And so we're not actually talking about who did do something wrong.

01:01:24.760 And that's Vladimir Putin in Russia.

01:01:26.720 Right.

01:01:27.000 Two thoughts though on that.

01:01:27.980 One, this is the responsibility of the president of the United States to, to, to define the terms of the debate.

01:01:33.640 And this is why radio silence is, is, is not just bad.

01:01:37.620 It's actually harmful because you can define, look, contrast what president Trump is doing with Russia,

01:01:43.660 which is good policy, but no defining of the debate.

01:01:48.440 Compare it with his North Korea policy.

01:01:50.760 He defines Kim Jong-un as rocket man.

01:01:54.340 He sends B2 bombers over the peninsula.

01:01:57.040 He sends pens to go to the DMZ.

01:01:59.360 He, he sends Mattis, he sends the aircraft carrier, uh, but you know, uh, task force and, and we don't know where it will go,

01:02:08.280 but it has gotten North Korea's attention because it's the strategic pressure, this maximum pressure.

01:02:14.560 We are not getting maximum pressure on Russia and we need to.

01:02:18.560 So, so that's one point.

01:02:20.180 The president needs to do it.

01:02:21.460 The second point is to, is to keep in mind what Vladimir Lenin used to say.

01:02:25.340 Uh, he would say, uh, he would say probe with bayonets.

01:02:29.200 If you find mush push, if you find steel stop under Obama, Vladimir Putin found mush and he kept pushing and, and, and nobody stopped him.

01:02:43.440 What we need president Trump to do is to show steel.

01:02:47.940 He is showing it in policy.

01:02:49.620 Although there's a few other things we could talk about that I think he should be doing, uh, but he is not defining the terms of the debate.

01:02:57.080 Even at the moment this week where NATO is starting to say, and they're not sure what to do, but they, uh, you know, we go back to this point about Russian nerve gas, military grade nerve agents, killing, poisoning people in, in great Britain.

01:03:13.320 This is, this is the, this, we've never seen this happen since World War II.

01:03:17.460 So this is a time when the president of the United States stands with your British allies, your NATO allies, and speaks out and begins to define the terms.

01:03:26.460 Now, one last thought on that.

01:03:28.360 This is a very good development of the idea of Mike Pompeo moving over to state.

01:03:34.100 I think it was a great move.

01:03:35.300 It is.

01:03:35.900 One, because Tillerson is an honorable man, didn't understand the job and didn't really know the president.

01:03:41.500 So you never believe that he was really speaking for the president.

01:03:44.760 Moreover, he had a personal friendship with Vladimir Putin.

01:03:47.680 He got the highest civilian honor that you could possibly get from Vladimir Putin.

01:03:51.600 That did not give me a sense that this guy had steel when it came to Putin.

01:03:56.260 Right.

01:03:56.520 Would you ever take a, no, you know, would I know now maybe if I was running Exxon mobile, but I'm not.

01:04:03.860 Pompeo gets Russia and Iran and North Korea, but also there's the key.

01:04:08.240 Mike Pompeo, for all his skill sets, he did not have the legal ability at CIA to shape policy.

01:04:16.780 CIA directors are not allowed to say, and therefore you should, Mr. President.

01:04:21.020 Can't do it.

01:04:22.040 It's only analysis and data, which is, that's the right thing.

01:04:25.920 At state, he can craft a robust, comprehensive Russia policy, help the president, if the president is willing to be helped in that direction.

01:04:35.520 But it's time.

01:04:37.460 Let me go through, let me go through some of the stats.

01:04:40.040 With the Russian invasion of Georgia, Ukraine in recent years, Russian forces fighting in Syria to protect the regime of Assad, Russia continuing to sell arms and nuclear technology to Iran, Russia hacking the U.S. computer networks and attempts to interfere in American elections.

01:04:54.500 Would you agree or disagree with this sentence?

01:04:58.520 I have come to believe that Vladimir Putin and the government of Russia pose a clear and present danger to national security in the United States, NATO allies, Europe, and our Middle East allies, such as Israel.

01:05:08.720 Well, 72% believe that's true.

01:05:12.520 60% say they worry about Putin now planning another military attack, perhaps an invasion of a small NATO country or Middle Eastern country, because he thinks the international community isn't serious about stopping him.

01:05:27.720 And 51%, 51.9, are not convinced the president understands Russia or Putin and must do more.

01:05:36.400 What does that tell you?

01:05:37.220 Well, we commissioned this poll for the release of the Kremlin conspiracy last week, and we did that from a highly respected pollster, John McLaughlin.

01:05:47.580 I've known him for 25 years.

01:05:50.020 John has also been one of the president's pollsters.

01:05:52.000 And I said, okay, this is going to be important because if the president's going to – I want to know what Americans really think.

01:05:57.880 I want it to be fair.

01:05:59.340 I want it to be scientifically accurate.

01:06:01.300 But it also has to be done by somebody who the president wouldn't listen to.

01:06:04.260 Like, these are real numbers.

01:06:05.200 They're not, you know, some leftist – you know, right, exactly.

01:06:09.900 So I briefed the White House staff on these numbers and congressional leaders on these numbers.

01:06:15.620 And it's important for these numbers to get out because as we head into the 2018 elections, if three out of four Americans think Putin is a clear and present danger, but 52% don't think the president fully understands that threat or is doing all that he can, that's a real problem.

01:06:35.920 Because what do Americans agree on, on three out of four Americans on anything these days?

01:06:41.820 Now, I'm not saying that that means that it's their front and center issue.

01:06:45.580 But I think instinctually, they get this issue, but they want to see leadership.

01:06:51.660 And it's actually kind of crazy to hear Democrats being able to attack a Republican president for being soft on Vladimir Putin.

01:06:59.380 But at this point, at least in terms of rhetoric, that charge holds.

01:07:04.320 So we're talking to Joel Rosenberg, The Kremlin Conspiracy.

01:07:07.720 What should –

01:07:08.620 Novel.

01:07:09.100 Just to be clear, I'm not actually involved in a Kremlin conspiracy.

01:07:11.740 For the record, I would like – and in fact, when I was in Vice President Pence's office a few months ago and he said, what's your next novel about?

01:07:18.920 I said, well, I don't really want to mention it in the West Wing.

01:07:21.880 He said, why?

01:07:22.540 What are you talking about?

01:07:23.100 I said, well, it has nothing to do with what's going on here.

01:07:26.180 And Pence pressed me, what's the title?

01:07:29.300 I said, sir, it's The Kremlin Conspiracy.

01:07:33.100 I've known Mike Pence for a long time.

01:07:34.440 I've got to say, I've never seen him laugh quite as hard as he did when he heard the name of the novel.

01:07:39.420 So The Kremlin Conspiracy, the novel, can you give us what you think we should be doing at this time with Theresa May?

01:07:50.580 What should we be doing?

01:07:52.220 How can we show steel without pushing us closer to the edge of a war with Russia?

01:08:00.060 If I were advising the President of the United States, I would advise him to immediately call her, invite her to Washington.

01:08:05.940 I would do a joint statement together.

01:08:08.880 I might not even just ask her.

01:08:10.740 I would ask the head of NATO to come or I'd get on a plane.

01:08:14.380 I'd go to London or Brussels.

01:08:16.320 I would start moving.

01:08:17.800 I would not even announce it.

01:08:19.100 I would just start moving U.S. forces, tanks into the Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

01:08:26.520 The President is going to have a summit on April 3rd with the three presidents of the Baltic states.

01:08:32.040 They are terrified.

01:08:33.000 The Lithuanian ambassador actually heard about the book and invited me to breakfast.

01:08:38.500 I didn't know him to talk about these things, to get a copy and talk about what can be done.

01:08:45.780 And then I would start imposing the very sanctions that Congress overwhelmingly passed last year and President Trump has not yet imposed.

01:08:55.260 Only two senators voted against it.

01:08:58.220 Over 400 congressmen voted for it.

01:09:00.460 He's got the legal authority.

01:09:02.700 It's time.

01:09:03.480 Move.

01:09:04.120 You've got all the setup.

01:09:05.780 You've given Putin all the space.

01:09:07.320 If he wanted to change, he would have changed by now.

01:09:10.060 Start to hit Putin where they care about, which is targeted sanctions on individuals.

01:09:15.780 Use the Magnitsky Act, the act that specifically goes after people that are engaged in criminal activity.

01:09:22.000 You don't have to.

01:09:23.500 There's a way to ramp this thing up.

01:09:25.460 You don't want to overreach, but you've got to start protecting our allies and hitting specific Putin cronies.

01:09:33.140 Do you believe that?

01:09:34.280 I mean, Putin's election is on Sunday.

01:09:36.580 Yes.

01:09:36.800 I'm not holding my breath.

01:09:37.720 I don't think it'll be a Pennsylvania 18th, but I'm just spitballing here.

01:09:41.360 Right, right, right.

01:09:42.140 But, you know, some of this, I think, is happening because of his election on Sunday.

01:09:47.860 Do you agree with that or not?

01:09:48.900 I don't.

01:09:49.640 And the reason I don't is because when you're a dictator, you know, I mean, yeah, he'd love to win with 95.

01:09:55.580 The danger is if he thinks he wins with 60, that would tell you that 40% of the country is voting for somebody.

01:10:01.720 They don't care who it is, just not him.

01:10:03.400 I think that's a risk to him.

01:10:04.740 But since you're not really worried as Vladimir Putin over if you're going to win or not, what are you doing?

01:10:10.840 I think we would be misreading him, saber rattling, as just being political.

01:10:15.800 I think he means it.

01:10:17.200 I think he is a thug who's looking for another country to take.

01:10:21.380 So 30 to 45 seconds.

01:10:23.020 Do you see war as a real possibility with Russia?

01:10:27.060 If we show weakness, I mean, if we can't show steel with a country that's actually a weak country, they have nuclear weapons.

01:10:34.780 But this guy is a bully and we're the world's superpower.

01:10:39.060 We've got NATO.

01:10:40.220 We just need to show steel.

01:10:42.420 This is the darkest hour with Winston Churchill under Neville Chamberlain.

01:10:45.660 Not good.

01:10:46.840 With Winston Churchill and FDR kicking in, there's a lot we can do to stop evil in this world.

01:10:51.880 But the West gets blindsided when we don't pay attention and we don't stand up for ourselves.

01:10:56.900 Thanks, Joel.

01:10:57.300 Appreciate it.

01:11:06.880 The book is The Kremlin Conspiracy from Joel Rosenberg.

01:11:10.380 You can get him on Twitter at Joel C. Rosenberg or go to his website, joelrosenberg.com.

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01:12:29.300 Have to play something great from Ben Shapiro, good friend, and just the future of the conservative movement.

01:12:49.360 Here's Ben Shapiro about how the left and the media were using these kids in the walkout yesterday.

01:12:57.320 The media has put forward this message, and they've been doing this for years, but it's really, I think, accelerated in the last few months, and particularly in the last few weeks.

01:13:04.920 They've been putting forward this message that if you disagree with them on gun control, then this means you don't care enough about the kids.

01:13:09.700 And now they are activating these kids and putting them out on the front lines and putting them in photo ops so that they can essentially use them as political human shields.

01:13:16.980 Now, listen, the kids can say whatever they want.

01:13:18.480 That's their prerogative, obviously.

01:13:20.100 Yeah.

01:13:20.280 But it is the media that are choosing to elevate these kids as moral authorities, even though tragedy and age don't confer any sort of expertise on a given issue.

01:13:28.420 It's a good point.

01:13:29.920 And also, by the way, age is the opposite.

01:13:32.420 The closer you are to birth, usually the less information you have.

01:13:37.100 That's kind of the way it works.

01:13:39.200 No, I've had serious conferences with infants.

01:13:42.340 Really?

01:13:42.820 Yeah.

01:13:43.100 Yeah.

01:13:43.800 When I have my yearly toddler conference, it is.

01:13:48.200 I got to get them all juice, Spock.

01:13:49.740 They demand to have in Juicy Juice.

01:13:52.020 Okay.

01:13:52.400 It's really good.

01:13:53.120 But they sit around and some of the ideas that come out of these toddlers, I mean, out of the mouth of babes.

01:14:00.800 You've never heard that?

01:14:01.760 I have heard that.

01:14:02.660 I didn't know it really meant.

01:14:04.740 Gun policy.

01:14:06.200 Oh, you ageist.

01:14:08.420 The nuances of the Second Amendment debate.

01:14:10.600 Out of the mouths of babes.

01:14:12.740 That's what we expect from them all the time.

01:14:14.940 Isn't that phrase supposed to design someone saying something inappropriate and ill-informed of all the circumstances?

01:14:22.880 It really kind of does apply to this.

01:14:25.400 I mean, look, as he said, you say whatever you want, but stop treating them as if they have some insight on the debate here.

01:14:32.700 They don't.

01:14:33.400 They were the victims of something terrible that doesn't make you an expert.

01:14:36.500 Glenn Beck.

01:14:52.580 Mercury.

01:14:58.740 Love.

01:15:00.020 Courage.

01:15:01.740 Truth.

01:15:03.420 Glenn Beck.

01:15:04.980 So who is the next contestant on Survivor Island?

01:15:09.480 The White House has selected Larry Kudlow.

01:15:14.040 This is a great upgrade.

01:15:17.880 Larry becomes the top economic advisor for Donald Trump as director of the National Economic Council.

01:15:24.200 He replaces Gary Cohn, who decided to step down specifically because he didn't agree with Trump's new tariff policy.

01:15:34.980 So now, I mean, if that's true, why would you go with Larry Kudlow?

01:15:41.860 Because Kudlow is lock-cocked and ready to go, you know, and he's going to be laying down those serious tariffs.

01:15:51.980 Not Larry Kudlow.

01:15:52.820 Let me just play a little bit of audio of what Larry Kudlow thinks about the new trade policies in his own words two weeks ago.

01:16:02.460 Listen.

01:16:03.140 Oh, I won't unwind it, but it's a bad omen.

01:16:05.120 You know, he's so good on taxes.

01:16:08.080 He's so good on tax cuts.

01:16:09.540 He's so good on deregulation, infrastructure.

01:16:13.320 I haven't liked him on immigration.

01:16:14.980 He's never been good on trade.

01:16:16.500 Okay, so you fire a guy.

01:16:22.220 Now, this is one way to have you believe.

01:16:24.120 You'd fire a guy who stood up against your tariffs because you're just going to go crazy,

01:16:31.520 and you're going to replace him with a guy who says, quote, it's a bad omen, and the president is always bad on trade.

01:16:38.800 Why do I have the feeling that either this is the shortest day on Survivor Island, or maybe, perhaps, there's something else going on,

01:16:55.600 and perhaps, and I haven't believed this before, but perhaps the president is sly like a fox.

01:17:04.400 Yes, according to Kudlow, he was playing tennis, and he had just come out and said those things on CNBC and much more.

01:17:17.200 And so he was playing tennis, and somebody brought him the phone.

01:17:22.100 It was probably one that was still wired.

01:17:24.320 Sir, excuse me, Lawrence, the president, would like to speak to you on the telephone.

01:17:29.540 So he picks up the phone, and he's expecting Trump to yell at him.

01:17:34.720 He said he thought he was going to, you know, brawl with the president over his criticism of the harsh tariffs.

01:17:41.820 In actuality, Kudlow said Trump instead spent the entire call explaining his strategy,

01:17:47.220 and by the end of the call, Kudlow said, I'm in.

01:17:51.040 Then, 48 hours later, Trump officially offered him the job, and he said, I accept it immediately.

01:18:00.320 So now, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

01:18:02.620 Either Trump is some sort of voodoo magician, which, tonight on Anderson Cooper, is Donald Trump a voodoo magician.

01:18:13.620 And he can cast these agreeability spells on Kudlow over the phone.

01:18:21.420 Or there's something we don't know here.

01:18:25.500 Because the president's new economic advisor is clearly not a fan of tariffs or the way Trump views trade in general.

01:18:35.600 But he is comfortable and confident in joining the administration.

01:18:40.340 Tonight, at 5 o'clock on the Blaze.com slash TV, we have a conversation with Larry Kudlow.

01:18:50.580 You need to hear who he is.

01:18:52.720 This is a serious upgrade.

01:18:55.800 We do know this.

01:18:56.980 Ever since the tariff policy was announced, the rhetoric has shifted from the idea of blanket tariffs to who's going to be excluded.

01:19:04.500 So far, Mexico and Canada have already been excluded.

01:19:07.620 Canada is our number one supplier of steel.

01:19:09.540 Mexico is number four.

01:19:11.440 So that's 25% of the steel imports, which overshadows both Brazil and South Korea combined.

01:19:18.100 Their number is two and three importers of steel.

01:19:21.600 And they've also been told that various members of the EU may be excluded.

01:19:27.060 The only nation in the top 10 that we import steel from is the EU from the EU is Germany.

01:19:33.600 Does that mean that Germany is going to be excluded as well?

01:19:37.560 And if so, who is left to put a tariff on?

01:19:42.180 It makes you wonder.

01:19:44.100 Did that call between Trump and his new economic advisor actually go a little something like,

01:19:49.760 Hey, Lawrence, it's Donald.

01:19:51.840 Don't worry about the tariff thing.

01:19:54.380 I'm playing chess.

01:19:56.600 Let's hope that's the case.

01:20:01.500 Otherwise, we'll see you next time on Survivor.

01:20:05.800 It's Thursday, March 15th.

01:20:13.620 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:20:15.640 I have tremendous respect for Larry Kudlow.

01:20:22.360 I mean, he is he's the man when it comes to free trade.

01:20:29.500 The real reason for optimism here, it's a you know, I you know, because I'm a big free trade guy was nervous about Cohn leaving.

01:20:37.980 Cohn is not exactly where I am on many issues, but he's pretty good on trade where, you know, the president has indicated he, you know, is is is a protectionist in many ways.

01:20:51.400 And Kudlow is the exact opposite.

01:20:53.500 I mean, you know, Kudlow, Larry Kudlow, Stephen Moore and Art Laffer wrote a piece together for National Review on March 3rd of this year.

01:21:06.040 I mean, Stephen Moore did.

01:21:07.380 Yeah.

01:21:08.940 Stephen Moore.

01:21:10.180 You think are you thinking he's not the person he's a are you thinking of someone else potentially?

01:21:14.760 No, I'm thinking Stephen Moore is a guy who said just a year ago, look, nationalism is the deal and I don't agree with it, but it's where the people are.

01:21:23.300 So let's go.

01:21:24.360 Well, yeah, I mean, look, I disagree with that comment as well.

01:21:27.760 But I mean, Stephen Moore has a very long record.

01:21:30.160 That's why it was a shocking comment.

01:21:31.340 Correct.

01:21:31.640 Because he has an incredibly long record of correct.

01:21:33.780 I'm glad to see him supportive of free trade.

01:21:36.120 Yeah.

01:21:37.380 Here's a couple of things from that article.

01:21:39.280 One of the ironies of trade protectionism is that tariffs and import quotas are what we do to ourselves in time of times of peace and what foreign nations do to us with blockades to keep imports from entering our country in times of war.

01:21:52.600 Tariffs are really taxes since so many of the things American consumers buy today are made of steel or aluminum.

01:21:59.180 A 25 percent tariff on these commodities may get passed on to consumers.

01:22:02.540 This is a regressive tax on low income families.

01:22:05.940 Now, this guy is been elevated to a real position of influence inside the White House.

01:22:15.200 That's a really good thing.

01:22:16.700 Does it does it does it does it do you ever feel like, man, I wish the president would make would let me like him.

01:22:26.060 You know, you know, you know, I wish he would just stop tweeting, stop being a punk to everybody, start being the president of the United States so I could show, you know, hey, this is this is the way a leader behaves, you know, and do stop doing all of the stuff that's meaningless, but hurts the culture.

01:22:46.480 Because he is so good.

01:22:48.840 I mean, this week, I'm like, or last week, I was like, oh, geez, man, here we go.

01:22:53.900 He's going to do the trade thing.

01:22:55.200 He might do the gun thing.

01:22:56.780 He's he's reversed himself on the gun thing.

01:22:59.260 And I don't think this is him being talked out of tariffs.

01:23:03.960 Strangely, I would be very surprised if it is.

01:23:06.440 Yeah, but I mean, he's got Larry Kudlow.

01:23:08.820 And if Larry is I have no reason not to believe him.

01:23:12.340 If Larry is like, look, I talked to him a few minutes.

01:23:14.640 I thought he was going to yell at me.

01:23:15.700 And then he said, oh, no, don't don't.

01:23:18.260 Here's my strategy that.

01:23:21.760 Wow.

01:23:22.320 Look, Kudlow, you know, was involved in the tax plan from from Trump.

01:23:29.560 He's a good free market voice.

01:23:31.100 And the fact that another free market voice is going to be around the president who doesn't always have those instincts is a really positive thing.

01:23:37.540 Can you imagine can you imagine being in the White House and seeing TV that saying White House bloodbath possibly as soon as this weekend?

01:23:48.460 I mean, can you imagine what that's like to work in the White House when, you know, all the televisions are on and everybody's looking and going with it because you don't know if it's true or not.

01:23:59.160 And every one of your enemies in the administration is leaking against you.

01:24:03.160 And, you know, you're probably leaking against all your enemies.

01:24:06.180 It's it's it's an I couldn't live like that.

01:24:08.160 No, I wouldn't.

01:24:08.680 And I wouldn't want to.

01:24:09.940 You know, I think, though, when it comes to a lot of this is there's some of it that's leaking.

01:24:15.120 But a lot of it is really like, you know, I think Trump likes this.

01:24:17.820 He said he likes the.

01:24:18.720 Oh, he likes he likes conflict chaos.

01:24:20.480 And he thinks it works well.

01:24:22.000 You know, I tend to believe that if he stopped, you know, when you're talking about tweeting, it doesn't mean you stop tweeting.

01:24:28.640 But I think everyone understands what you're talking about when you say that, which is, you know, the really outlandish sort of stuff, you know, the attacking people's appearances and stuff, you know, like all that stuff.

01:24:38.740 I can't imagine and, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but is there one Trump supporter that exists today that goes away if he stops, you know, if he make stops making fun of, you know, people's facelifts?

01:24:52.100 Like, there's no one who's like, oh, I am no longer on the Trump bandwagon because of that.

01:24:57.220 No, because he stopped doing it.

01:24:58.780 I do think there's a group of people that would help him when it comes to approval rating and success and support.

01:25:06.640 If he were to stop the flares, the craziest stuff he does and pair that back 10, 20 percent, there's a group of people who would like his policies enough to become supporters.

01:25:19.840 And those people, you know, why not try to bring those in?

01:25:25.000 I don't think you lose any of the other people by not doing it.

01:25:27.940 So why not try to bring those people in the fold?

01:25:29.980 And then your approval rating, instead of it being 37, is 45, and you're right in the normal sort of range of a president as he maybe goes into that second term.

01:25:38.640 It's still going to be difficult, but.

01:25:40.360 So I want to ask you a tough question.

01:25:42.020 Yes.

01:25:42.400 We're going to take a break.

01:25:43.480 And I want you to answer this question.

01:25:44.680 Oh, good.

01:25:44.780 You're going to be in the break to think about it.

01:25:46.220 Good.

01:25:46.560 Yeah.

01:25:46.860 I want to ask this question.

01:25:48.560 We've asked supporters, what could he possibly do that you would finally say, okay, I can't tolerate that in a president, okay?

01:26:03.700 What does he have to do before you say, he might be Reagan.

01:26:12.020 He might be one of the better presidents we've had in a long time.

01:26:17.180 It starts with inventing a flux capacitor.

01:26:21.840 I'll get the full answer in a second.

01:26:30.780 More bad news about the data breach from that major credit card bureau, that credit bureau.

01:26:36.040 It's an additional 2.4 million Americans.

01:26:40.000 Just the 2.4 million, though?

01:26:41.360 But that's it.

01:26:41.880 There's not more than that, though.

01:26:42.940 It's a maximum of 2.4 million, right?

01:26:45.900 Well.

01:26:46.340 Because there's no other, but no one else has been breached.

01:26:48.480 And that's great.

01:26:49.180 Well, there's the 147.9 million.

01:26:52.500 How many was that?

01:26:53.740 147.9.

01:26:54.600 Just half.

01:26:55.200 Just half of the country.

01:26:56.140 Oh, okay.

01:26:56.580 Well, that's not that bad.

01:26:57.680 It's really just half.

01:26:59.320 Okay.

01:26:59.580 So, so the additional, they also had their social security numbers stolen and their driver's license number.

01:27:06.960 So, but the good thing is, when you're doing something important, no one asks you for your driver's license number or your social security number.

01:27:15.340 Right?

01:27:16.580 Right.

01:27:17.020 So, you have the name, the address, you have some banking information, driver's license, and social security.

01:27:25.300 Nothing is going to happen.

01:27:26.700 Right.

01:27:26.960 Because when they're skeptical of you, to confirm who you are, they'll ask you the things that were stolen.

01:27:32.700 Right.

01:27:33.300 So, don't worry.

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01:28:15.880 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:28:22.020 Glenn Beck.

01:28:25.260 So, I just asked Stu, we were having this conversation off air because, you know, I really want to be fair to the president.

01:28:31.020 And, you know, I don't cut him, you know, the slack when everybody else will cut him slack.

01:28:37.000 But I also want to praise him when he does praiseworthy stuff.

01:28:40.840 And his policies have been really, some of them have been really good.

01:28:44.960 The last couple of weeks have been an abomination and just terrified me when it comes to, you know, the way the guns were handled.

01:28:53.160 And then he kind of wiggled out of that.

01:28:56.080 And tariffs.

01:28:57.380 And it looks like he may be wiggling out of that now as well.

01:29:00.420 Or he may just be using some strategy that I've never seen a president.

01:29:05.020 Here's a nice thing about Donald Trump.

01:29:08.380 Why he might be effective.

01:29:09.900 I've always said I've wanted a president with a twitchy eye where the people who are against him and negotiations are like, that guy's great.

01:29:17.320 He just might do it.

01:29:18.740 I always thought, though, that I would be able to understand if he was telling the truth or not.

01:29:25.700 You know what I mean?

01:29:27.340 I don't know where he stands on trade.

01:29:29.940 I don't know where he really stands on guns.

01:29:32.780 I just have to watch his actions.

01:29:36.540 So is there something that, because we've asked, you know, on the cultural issues, he's an abomination on the cultural issues.

01:29:47.200 Barack Obama on the cultural issues was an abomination as well.

01:29:50.840 Just divided us.

01:29:52.800 And, you know, Barack Obama was pitting black versus white and rich versus poor, et cetera, et cetera.

01:29:58.520 And so, you know, that's one side.

01:30:01.320 But on the policy issues, he's been pretty good.

01:30:06.700 He's been better than I expected.

01:30:09.020 Absolutely has exceeded my expectations on that front.

01:30:12.860 And I think he's convinced me of a few things.

01:30:15.400 And whether this is him precisely or his allowance of the structure around him to make these decisions.

01:30:22.400 Like, for example, he's pretty much won me over that he's able to pick good judges.

01:30:26.160 Right.

01:30:26.680 And that's not I was not there at all, even after his election, even after he released his list.

01:30:31.320 I didn't necessarily believe he would do that.

01:30:33.400 And he has and he hasn't just done it with Gorsuch.

01:30:35.620 I mean, there's been a lot of really good choices.

01:30:38.140 I mean, Willett and Ho and Texas.

01:30:39.420 A lot of there's you can go you go through a nice list of those.

01:30:42.440 You know, he's been good on environmental policy, in my opinion, because I come from a I really hate environmental regulation.

01:30:49.580 I think we're very overregulated in that area.

01:30:51.640 His naming of Pruitt is good.

01:30:53.880 They're talking about potentially elevating him if Sessions leaves, which I think is generally speaking a positive.

01:30:58.780 He's done a good job there.

01:31:00.920 You know, one thing I have been surprised about a little bit and I think hasn't come to fruition as much as I kind of thought it would was boldness of policy.

01:31:13.420 There's a boldness of talk.

01:31:16.700 The boldness of policy has been oddly absent for the tax cuts are a good example of that.

01:31:22.360 Like I said, I'm glad the tax cuts passed.

01:31:24.580 It's good to see that we play lower taxes and hey, that's great.

01:31:27.940 But that was not a bold plan.

01:31:30.180 It was a trimming.

01:31:31.920 You know, I mean, the bold plan, you can argue on the corporate side, it was pretty bold.

01:31:35.340 Outside of that, you know, it wasn't much of a dramatic tax cut.

01:31:41.420 And that was actually one of the things Larry Kudlow criticized at the tax point should have been more dramatic on the on the individual side.

01:31:47.560 You know, if he actually adopts the policies of Larry Kudlow, I'm going to be pretty happy on those policies.

01:31:53.300 He is not necessarily done those yet.

01:31:55.280 But, you know, what would it take?

01:31:57.560 Because we always say, what would it take to shake you on our side?

01:32:01.260 What would it take to get you to say, I have to divide him in half?

01:32:06.740 Culturally, I don't know of anything that he could do that would would.

01:32:10.520 I mean, he could change.

01:32:11.580 I mean, he could change.

01:32:12.380 But I mean, he doesn't seem like he's part of his character of who he is.

01:32:16.380 Correct.

01:32:16.700 But on policies, you know, you have to be able to say, if you're going to be honest, you have to be able to say he's pretty good on some of them.

01:32:24.920 Yeah, I listed a few there.

01:32:26.900 I mean, I think you give him credit where he gets it and maybe not where he doesn't.

01:32:31.220 I mean, you know, the fact that he's launching into tariff talk is is a really bad sign.

01:32:35.180 I mean, year one, if he does tariffs this year, year one will be better than year two.

01:32:40.420 So he doesn't appear to be headed towards more free market policies.

01:32:44.740 But I mean, if he gets to more free market policies, if he changes some of his outlying, you know, philosophies that I don't appreciate so much.

01:32:52.720 I mean, you could say that he's a he's good on policy.

01:32:56.300 I mean, you know, I don't he's done some really good things, I think better much, much more than I think either of us would have predicted coming in.

01:33:03.860 And to be fair, even people who were calling this show saying you guys got to vote for Trump, you got to vote for Trump.

01:33:09.480 Even they, in their cases to us to vote for Trump, were were underselling what he's actually done.

01:33:17.400 So, I mean, it's a big step.

01:33:18.900 You know, he's done some really good things.

01:33:20.360 He's put good people in certain places around him.

01:33:23.460 Yeah.

01:33:23.680 And some of these have been upgrades as they've changed.

01:33:26.420 Right.

01:33:26.640 And some of them, I mean, he started out with a really dicey band of snakes around him.

01:33:31.440 Uh, and he's cut them out, you know, every step of the way.

01:33:36.180 And every time he is replacing them, he seems to be replacing them with better people.

01:33:41.900 Yeah.

01:33:42.100 And I will say one of the biggest changes that we've seen in the past year and probably both of our biggest problems with Donald Trump leading up to the election and even after it was Steve Bannon.

01:33:53.140 And the fact that Steve Bannon is not only gone from the White House, but completely excommunicated is a really positive thing for the White House.

01:34:02.200 Um, so, and even though Bannon, some of Bannon's policies were okay, uh, you know, not all of them.

01:34:09.400 Um, but you know, the fact that if he can move away from that sort of economic nationalism, uh, and other associated, uh, beliefs, uh, around him about around Bannon in that sort of circle, it would be great.

01:34:21.120 But I mean, you know, he's launching into many of them now.

01:34:23.660 So I mean, I wouldn't say I'm optimistic.

01:34:25.360 Is there a path where I would say like, oh my God, he's a great president on policy?

01:34:28.840 Of course, there's always a path.

01:34:29.980 There's a path for Barack Obama.

01:34:31.600 In his last year, if he reversed all the things that he did and became a conservative, I would be great.

01:34:37.240 But I don't, I think, I think it's realistic.

01:34:39.040 Trump is actually on the right road.

01:34:41.820 I mean, if, if, you know, if, if he's, this seems to be, um, he seems to be becoming his own man on things.

01:34:51.120 Uh, and maybe I'm wrong, but he seems to be coming, uh, uh, you know, making this decision to go to North Korea, making the decision to, uh, to, uh, fire our secretary straight, uh, state and, and, uh, and replace him with Pompeo seems to be him, which is, is good.

01:35:12.640 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:35:21.600 Uh, we're, uh, we're just talking, I want to ask Pat the same question I asked, uh, Stu here a little while ago.

01:35:26.660 Um, we've asked the audience for a long time.

01:35:29.120 Well, what would it take for what, what does Donald Trump have to do to make you go, okay, I can't tolerate that.

01:35:35.820 Um, and, uh, and I don't know if we've ever gotten an answer and I, but I wanted to reverse that on us because Larry Kudlow, possibly John Bolton and Pompeo have been appointed, uh, you know, to the white house staff this week.

01:35:55.300 Like all three of those are really good, really good.

01:35:59.700 Solid.

01:35:59.960 He's been solid in his appointments, though, for, as a rule.

01:36:04.260 Well, and this is conversation with Bolton, right?

01:36:06.400 And Bolton, the Bolton thing hasn't, you keep saying that, but that's not actually happening.

01:36:08.700 No, but, but it's moving in that direction.

01:36:11.460 Right.

01:36:11.800 Don't know if it's, don't know if it's going to happen.

01:36:13.860 Uh, but still, you can't say all of his appointments have been good.

01:36:16.940 Oh, his nomination of the, uh, really bad, uh, person on, I mean, bad on religious rights.

01:36:24.220 Um, there, there was just that, so let's not forget that.

01:36:28.460 But if people keep the heat on, that's going to be withdrawn, I think.

01:36:32.000 Hopefully.

01:36:32.440 Yeah.

01:36:32.720 I mean, that, that people called in and, uh, uh, wrote to the white house and wrote to the Senate and called your senators.

01:36:40.320 That one was really hard to understand.

01:36:41.740 Yeah.

01:36:42.060 Really hard.

01:36:43.220 Yeah.

01:36:43.420 So she's the head of the EEOC.

01:36:45.140 If you don't know, call your senator and say, you must reject the, uh, nomination of the EEOC.

01:36:51.060 Well, no first, then call, please.

01:36:53.680 If you don't know, call.

01:36:54.960 No.

01:36:55.260 No.

01:36:56.040 If you don't know, then no.

01:36:57.640 Then call.

01:36:58.580 Look into it first.

01:36:59.340 Yes, please look into it.

01:37:00.220 Find out how bad she is on religious freedom.

01:37:02.360 Yeah.

01:37:02.600 She's horrible.

01:37:03.020 She believes that sexual freedom trumps religious freedom.

01:37:06.360 Right.

01:37:06.840 You'd have to show me that in the Constitution.

01:37:07.940 And that's a quote, by the way.

01:37:08.960 It's a quote.

01:37:09.780 So.

01:37:10.100 Yeah.

01:37:10.700 So anyway, but he hasn't always been good on his nominations.

01:37:14.080 Bannon is a good example of that.

01:37:16.200 Flynn is a good example of that.

01:37:17.640 Oh, it's been a lot of bad ones, but he's made a lot of good ones.

01:37:19.860 Yeah, he has.

01:37:20.740 He has.

01:37:21.100 But, but, you know, it just at the time where you think, oh, my gosh, this guy could be spiraling

01:37:26.000 into protectionism and everything else he appoints.

01:37:29.700 And where is he on on Russia?

01:37:32.640 OK, well, we know now he just put Pompeo in his secretary of state and he ain't easy on

01:37:38.120 Russia.

01:37:38.420 Where is he on trade?

01:37:41.580 He just put Larry Kudlow in.

01:37:44.600 So what would it be?

01:37:46.640 Like, I think if he would have if they would have repealed Obamacare.

01:37:51.180 And they would have opened that up to the free market system.

01:37:55.380 The first year would have been really hard to argue with at all, at all, at all.

01:37:59.440 Except it is still pretty good.

01:38:01.180 Yeah.

01:38:01.480 Yeah.

01:38:01.700 So if if he could fully repeal Obamacare, which they've already removed the mandate, so it's

01:38:09.340 been gutted anyway.

01:38:10.280 But if you totally remove that, if you do what you said you were going to do on immigration

01:38:14.200 and drop this two million people with a past citizenship on DACA.

01:38:20.180 I mean, that's terrible policy.

01:38:23.280 That's Ronald Reagan policy.

01:38:24.760 It doesn't work.

01:38:26.780 Did you see the the build the wall thing today?

01:38:29.720 She tweeted Trump's Kate Steinle and I guess an illegal immigrant DACA recipient really murdered

01:38:36.780 somebody and a year into the presidency.

01:38:39.940 And she's like, it's not OK.

01:38:42.060 Wow.

01:38:42.320 It's an interesting point.

01:38:43.580 You know, and Ann Coulter holds the line pretty hard on on the immigration stuff.

01:38:47.560 That's all she cares about.

01:38:48.580 It does seem to be the only issue why she was so adamant about him in Trump.

01:38:52.220 We trust.

01:38:52.840 And now she's starting to turn on him for the same reason.

01:38:54.880 Yeah.

01:38:55.020 She gives the border wall update every day about how they haven't built any of the border

01:38:58.400 wall and everything like that.

01:38:59.740 Well, you and I predicted that a long time ago.

01:39:02.180 It's true.

01:39:03.460 I will say we would eat our underwear if you would have built 90 percent of what they promised.

01:39:09.560 It's not going to be anywhere near that.

01:39:11.600 It does.

01:39:11.840 Well, no, he's not even he's not even saying he wants to build 90 percent of it.

01:39:16.520 No, he's not.

01:39:17.040 And now it's more like 30, 40 percent.

01:39:19.040 So he'd have to get back, you know, to what he promised on immigration and maybe another

01:39:23.940 deeper tax cut.

01:39:25.220 They're talking about that now.

01:39:26.420 Uh huh.

01:39:26.840 That's exciting.

01:39:27.480 I mean, you know, I mean, it would be great.

01:39:28.980 I think this is another point of that.

01:39:30.660 These these special elections should indicate to the Republicans that they may only have control

01:39:35.080 of the House for another eight to 10 months.

01:39:36.960 Yeah, they're worried about it.

01:39:37.820 You better move and do another round of tax cuts.

01:39:40.100 Do it right now.

01:39:40.800 They just lost in Pennsylvania.

01:39:42.100 And so they're starting to raise the alarms.

01:39:44.760 And yeah, it's because you guys you suck.

01:39:46.700 You don't stand for anything.

01:39:48.140 You don't stand for anything.

01:39:50.380 And every single time you get into trouble, you do the same thing.

01:39:52.940 You moderate.

01:39:54.280 Well, if I want, why would I want a Republican who acts like a Democrat when I can vote for

01:40:01.280 an actual Democrat, if that's what I want?

01:40:03.540 It never makes sense to me.

01:40:05.220 It never makes sense.

01:40:06.920 And they do this every single time.

01:40:08.820 You need to go back to conservatism.

01:40:11.720 And if they did that, I think they'd be fine.

01:40:14.060 I think they'd win.

01:40:14.840 I think this is an argument against making mass sort of wholesale changes in the cabinet

01:40:20.840 right now, and that you may very well only have eight to 10 months to do anything bold

01:40:26.680 because you're going to you could lose the House.

01:40:28.860 I mean, there's a legitimate chance that could happen.

01:40:31.020 So if you get, you know, the government operations swallowed up in trying to confirm, and I know

01:40:38.040 it's the Senate, but confirm all the, you know, all of these different changes of positions,

01:40:42.460 you are going to push the ball down the road even further for good policy changes.

01:40:46.880 And I know they always say, oh, well, you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

01:40:49.720 You can't walk or chew gum ever.

01:40:52.520 There's no, there's no reason for us to believe you can do both because I can't, I've never

01:40:56.820 seen you, the gum you paste on your face, it misses your mouth and you fall over every

01:41:01.520 time you try to walk.

01:41:02.480 Let me ask you this.

01:41:03.920 What do you think about Rand Paul, as I understand his position, but what do you think if Pompeo,

01:41:09.780 the CIA director is also snubbed by him?

01:41:15.520 And if Bolton was chosen, I can guarantee you that Rand Paul's not going to vote for

01:41:21.040 him.

01:41:21.260 And wasn't Rand Paul's thing, it's constitutional for me to approve him?

01:41:26.620 Wasn't that him?

01:41:27.140 He was the guy that was voting for all the Democrat nominees.

01:41:28.840 Wasn't he the guy that was voting for all the Democrat nominees under Obama and now all

01:41:31.820 of a sudden, nobody's good enough for you?

01:41:34.780 Wait, I thought they were serving at the pleasure of the president and use your constitutional

01:41:38.760 duty to approve them.

01:41:40.880 That is a great point.

01:41:42.300 That's what his mindset was.

01:41:43.960 Okay.

01:41:44.120 So, so when you can't get anything from the president from going along because it's Barack

01:41:50.740 Obama, you just think, well, maybe I can get something by going along on my constitutional

01:41:57.280 right.

01:41:57.700 However, now I've got a pressure point for the president.

01:42:02.320 I know he wants something.

01:42:03.760 So what can I get in return?

01:42:05.720 Yeah, that's not a principled position that you're describing.

01:42:09.140 You're describing a negotiating position, which is not something that I thought we were

01:42:12.920 looking for.

01:42:14.160 Hmm.

01:42:14.580 Hmm.

01:42:15.120 So, uh, I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's how you explain that.

01:42:18.980 And yes, it might be true, but I mean this, and, and to show you how crucial this is, right?

01:42:22.660 It's, they've got 51 Republicans here to vote for them, 50 without Rand Paul.

01:42:27.800 And, you know, John McCain is, you know, not been doing well.

01:42:31.740 He's another non-torture guy.

01:42:33.100 He's present all the time, also a non-torture guy, um, well, for a reason, I'm a non-torture

01:42:37.820 guy, but I just, it's just what you think is torture.

01:42:40.980 Yes, exactly.

01:42:41.920 So that's one of the things pouring some water over somebody's mouth and Paul with a rag

01:42:45.980 in it.

01:42:46.440 Opposition is the torture thing is, is also, you know, are you going to go to war?

01:42:51.880 He's very anti all the wars and he believes this team, you know, Pompeo and, and potentially

01:42:56.920 Bolton as well as he's going to give you an aggressive hawkish stance that they don't

01:43:00.940 want.

01:43:01.180 Do you feel that way yourself?

01:43:03.980 I think it definitely is a move in that direction.

01:43:06.480 I mean, Tillerson was the guy who was always talking down these conflicts.

01:43:10.480 I mean, and Pompeo is much more aggressive.

01:43:12.300 I think it's, I think it's a good move from Tillerson to Pompeo, but that is the, that is

01:43:16.000 the potential risk.

01:43:16.760 I mean, you, you want to, and I think a solid, uh, sharpened war instrument, Nikki Haley,

01:43:27.020 John Bolton, Pompeo, Kelly, you got a pretty effective work.

01:43:34.980 Yeah.

01:43:35.640 You've got a sharp, that's a really good.

01:43:38.020 I mean, those are the guys I would want to be.

01:43:39.960 He's worried about the drums of war with Iran though.

01:43:42.000 I don't want a war with Iran either.

01:43:43.900 Do you?

01:43:44.540 I don't want a war with Russia.

01:43:45.740 I don't want any with anybody.

01:43:47.080 Of course not.

01:43:47.840 You always want it to be last resort.

01:43:49.340 But I mean, like, if you look at this, if let's just say, take an, you know, another

01:43:53.200 one of the 17 Republican candidates, uh, you know, take Jeb Bush, take Marco Rubio, you

01:43:59.400 know, take, you know, whoever you want, Chris Christie and throw them in the white house.

01:44:04.060 If they put a team together of Haley, Bolton, Pompeo, that is an absolute rock star, rock star

01:44:14.320 star team, but very hawk, hawkish Republican establishment type of people.

01:44:22.400 It's, it's interesting because he's, you know, he's obviously the kind of a drain the

01:44:25.960 swamp type of guy.

01:44:26.860 And some of his early nominations were in that realm, but this is a very standard Republican

01:44:31.380 team.

01:44:31.800 It's a good Republican team.

01:44:33.100 It is.

01:44:33.480 You know, this is, I feel like it's a, for, for what their jobs that they're asked to do,

01:44:37.680 they're perfect.

01:44:38.580 And Haley's doing a fantastic job.

01:44:39.400 Would you want Haley to be saying anything other than what she's saying?

01:44:42.360 No.

01:44:42.460 My gosh, she's great.

01:44:43.620 I love it.

01:44:44.020 Do we have to say anything?

01:44:44.320 Do we have the, uh, the Nikki Haley audio?

01:44:47.320 Could we play that please?

01:44:48.240 Here she is yesterday at the United Nations on Russia.

01:44:52.020 Russia failed to ensure Syria destroyed its chemical weapons program.

01:44:56.760 Russia killed the joint investigative mechanism when it found Assad liable for chemical attacks.

01:45:03.220 Russia used its veto to shield Assad five times last year.

01:45:09.100 It has also provided cover for Syria in The Hague at the Organization for the

01:45:14.020 Prohibition of the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

01:45:15.860 The Russians complained recently that we criticized them too much.

01:45:21.160 If the Russian government stopped using chemical weapons to assassinate its enemies,

01:45:27.800 and if the Russian government stopped helping its Syrian ally to use chemical weapons to kill Syrian children,

01:45:35.340 and if Russia cooperated with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons,

01:45:40.240 by turning over all information related to this nerve agent, we would stop talking about them.

01:45:46.920 We take no pleasure in having to constantly criticize Russia, but we need Russia to stop giving us so many reasons to do so.

01:45:55.000 She's a rock star.

01:45:57.640 She's really good.

01:45:58.920 She is really good.

01:46:00.000 She's the best.

01:46:01.260 There have been three great UN ambassadors in my lifetime.

01:46:06.040 Gene Kirkpatrick, John Bolton, and her.

01:46:12.140 Yeah.

01:46:12.720 I mean, just rock star.

01:46:15.420 You remember Gene Kirkpatrick?

01:46:16.640 She'd just light your hair on fire.

01:46:19.220 You'd be like, okay, Gene.

01:46:20.620 All right, whatever.

01:46:21.280 Whatever Gene says, please don't let Gene speak again, please.

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01:48:10.460 Glenn Beck.

01:48:12.400 Mercury.

01:48:20.080 Glenn Beck.

01:48:24.440 So United Airlines, you know,

01:48:28.420 they took a passenger because they were overbooked and they, uh, they drugged the passenger off the plane.

01:48:36.500 Now, uh, they've issued an apology for a dog that died mid-flight because they told the owner that they had to stuff him into an overhead bin.

01:48:48.320 So weird.

01:48:51.240 That is so, so strange.

01:48:53.700 Like I, didn't that, again, United Airlines really bad job.

01:48:58.240 I think this needs to be said off the top, but what on earth was the passenger?

01:49:02.800 Like I would never accept, would you ever accept that with your dog?

01:49:06.400 No, they, they called it a tragic accident.

01:49:08.260 No, it wasn't an accident.

01:49:09.420 That's what happens when you put dogs in a place with no ventilation and you stuff them in.

01:49:15.660 That's, I, I would have surprised.

01:49:17.500 I don't think I would have said absolutely not.

01:49:20.200 Would you?

01:49:20.940 Absolutely not.

01:49:21.260 I would have, I would have walked off the plane.

01:49:22.800 Absolutely would have walked off the plane.

01:49:23.880 Would you have thought it was an airtight containment, like that there wouldn't be able to breathe in there?

01:49:29.440 I don't know that I would have thought that, but if there were other things in the, uh, overhead luggage, you know, if, if there were, if it was all by itself in that overhead space, it wouldn't occur to me.

01:49:42.860 I mean, I would, I will still wouldn't allow it to happen, but I wouldn't think the dog would necessarily die from it.

01:49:47.840 Um, by the way, people are trying to say that they are, you know, 5% of the animals shipped on the United Airlines die.

01:49:57.020 Uh, that is not accurate at all.

01:49:59.220 Uh, the correct number is, uh, it's 2.24 per 10,000.

01:50:06.160 Now that's a fairly high number for an airline.

01:50:10.060 For example, American is 0.87 per 10,000.

01:50:14.260 Um, well, I know, I have to tell you, I know that, um,

01:50:17.840 I've tried to ship dogs and things, you know, moving, et cetera, et cetera.

01:50:22.100 And the airlines have always been really strict on, you know, it's too, you know, it's too hot, uh, you know, to go underneath the plane.

01:50:31.180 I mean, they've always seemed to be, you know, very cautious.

01:50:36.060 I mean, nobody wants to kill an animal, you know, United.

01:50:39.840 Well, United might.

01:50:42.480 I don't think they do.

01:50:43.880 No, I don't think they do.

01:50:44.940 Um, but I mean, again, it's, you know, it's one of those things I think pet owners generally freak out about.

01:50:50.000 And it's one of these big incidents because it looks so bad.

01:50:52.800 And there's been a couple of them recently that have been high profile.

01:50:55.960 It's not really a gigantic systemic problem for airlines to kill animals.

01:51:02.100 Uh, it's fairly rare.

01:51:04.020 And again, you know, the average airline, it's 0.8 animals per 10,000 die.

01:51:12.420 That's the ratio 0.8 per 10,000.

01:51:16.160 So again, it's incredibly rare to happen.

01:51:19.820 You want it to, you know, do they require you to put the dog?

01:51:23.440 I've seen people sit with dog.

01:51:25.460 I've practically seen people say, no, it's a, uh, you know, it's a, it's a medical alligator.

01:51:31.700 Um, you know, they, they come on with, you know, support animals all the time and little teeny dogs.

01:51:38.520 I see little teeny dogs sitting in people's laps all the time.

01:51:41.600 We've, you know, I've traveled with my dog, my little dogs before and sat them right under the seat.

01:51:46.180 You know, they, you put the little carrier in front of them, open up the little zipper.

01:51:48.840 They pop their head out.

01:51:49.880 Like, I mean, it's, uh, you know, pretty, a lot of that's pretty standard, but I mean, we can, we can get overwhelmed by one crazy incident.

01:51:56.860 Here's the deal.

01:51:58.540 You know, United Airlines, if this is your policy, you should change it, or you should adopt a grander strategy and partner with Planned Parenthood and just put Down syndrome children in the overhead luggage.

01:52:12.660 Glenn Beck.

01:52:14.440 Mercury.

01:52:26.860 Yeah.

01:52:27.800 I.

01:52:29.020 Yeah.

01:52:30.720 I.

01:52:31.100 I.

01:52:31.560 I.

01:52:32.240 I.

01:52:32.700 I.

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The Glenn Beck Program - March 15, 2018

'Chill Out!' (Joel Rosenberg joins Glenn) - 3⧸15⧸18

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