The Glenn Beck Program - 'Choose Life'？

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:10.560 All I can think of is breathe deep, gathering gloom.

00:00:17.780 Angry white mob, an angry white mob, surrounded and attacked an African-American woman yesterday.

00:00:25.940 Now, this isn't a headline from the 1960s, and this isn't a headline from CNN.

00:00:33.960 In fact, I can't find this news on CNN.

00:00:39.300 Turning Point USA's Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens having breakfast in Philadelphia

00:00:44.580 when a group of 20 to 30 people began harassing them with bullhorns and throwing liquid at them.

00:00:51.440 Hey, James Acosta, has that happened to you?

00:00:55.940 It's happened to me and my family.

00:01:01.020 If there is a museum of the absurd, this attack should be one of the main exhibits.

00:01:07.360 They were actually screaming into bullhorns directly at Candace Owens, an African-American woman,

00:01:15.340 saying, F white supremacy.

00:01:17.880 These are white people shouting through a bullhorn at a black woman, saying, F white superiority.

00:01:31.680 So now, what exactly do these radical leftists have a problem with here?

00:01:36.080 Is it that Candace is a woman or that she's black?

00:01:41.040 Or maybe that she had the gall to eat in one of their restaurants, and she did it with a white man?

00:01:49.080 Since when did the far left become supporters of Jim Crow?

00:01:52.100 So, I would love for one spokesperson, one, anyone from Antifa, to call and defend this.

00:02:02.180 Call.

00:02:02.900 I will give you the platform.

00:02:05.940 I want to hear your defense.

00:02:08.640 I would love clarification.

00:02:10.960 Now, the optics here don't look real great.

00:02:17.320 But we don't really care about optics, do we, Antifa?

00:02:21.840 Because no one's reporting on you.

00:02:26.020 There's one thing that's true for the far right and the radical left.

00:02:30.100 They have them in common.

00:02:31.600 They are both equally racist.

00:02:34.440 Oh, and by the way, they're also both.

00:02:37.260 Both are against the Bill of Rights.

00:02:39.520 If you're an Antifa, maybe somebody like Sarah Zhang or some social justice warrior screaming about white America,

00:02:48.440 if that's something that you embrace, maybe you should also embrace the conclusion that may be painful to you,

00:02:55.980 that you are a racist and a fascist yourself.

00:03:00.960 You are everything you claim to despise.

00:03:04.580 You are blaming all of your grievances and problems on a race of people.

00:03:10.780 How does that make you any different than the Klan?

00:03:14.360 Oh, I know, that's right, because the Klan would go out and intimidate people.

00:03:19.120 Oh, no.

00:03:22.040 Another thing you have in common with the Klan.

00:03:25.580 I don't care if you're in the minority or the majority.

00:03:29.200 If you judge people by their race and not the content of their character,

00:03:35.260 then you are, by definition, a racist.

00:03:40.440 Now, I know critical thinking is not taught anymore,

00:03:43.640 and I know that what is taught is that all critical and scientific thinking is from the modern age,

00:03:51.280 and we are now post-modern.

00:03:53.380 But I'm sorry, I'm going to be a stick in the mud.

00:03:59.340 Until they de-platform me, I will say it and say it again.

00:04:10.520 Can no one see how they've turned into everything they despise?

00:04:16.660 Can no one see the similarities between their own movement and the people they claim to be fighting?

00:04:24.640 And I mean that on both sides.

00:04:28.420 If you do a rundown of what the far right and the far left have in common,

00:04:34.000 they really should get along.

00:04:35.560 Really, you should.

00:04:36.600 I know, I know.

00:04:37.420 The difference is fascism and communism.

00:04:39.320 But you've got so much in common.

00:04:42.560 You're both equally racist.

00:04:44.380 You both hate the Bill of Rights.

00:04:47.240 You both hate America.

00:04:49.260 You both want to kill free speech.

00:04:51.680 You both believe in collectivism.

00:04:54.000 You both believe in socialism.

00:04:56.180 You both believe in a strong central government and socialized everything else.

00:05:00.640 I mean, you are a match made, I would say, in heaven, but I don't think so.

00:05:05.800 Jim Acosta and CNN have felt threatened by the crowd at a Trump rally recently.

00:05:17.440 I get it.

00:05:18.300 I've been there, CNN.

00:05:21.980 They say it was all President Trump's fault.

00:05:24.240 Well, then, who's to blame when it was happening to me?

00:05:28.100 And by the way, it still does.

00:05:30.000 I wonder, Jim and CNN, if you're going to have a comment.

00:05:37.380 You haven't yet.

00:05:38.360 It's been 24 hours, but I'm waiting for a comment on what happened to Charlie and Candace.

00:05:44.600 Or how about Antifa trying to destroy the recruiting center of the Marine Corps?

00:05:51.200 Yeah, you didn't cover that one either.

00:05:52.960 They threw explosives at a Berkeley police station on Sunday.

00:06:01.140 Didn't see that.

00:06:03.000 The mask Antifa member smashing the windows of the Marine Corps recruiting office.

00:06:07.420 That happened on Sunday, along with a bomb throwing.

00:06:10.160 Didn't see that.

00:06:13.000 Go ahead.

00:06:13.680 Go to CNN.com right now.

00:06:16.020 They've got a platform.

00:06:17.780 They'll tell you the truth.

00:06:19.320 They'll tell you the difference between apples and oranges and bananas.

00:06:22.960 And grapes?

00:06:25.640 I'll save you the trouble.

00:06:27.180 Neither story is there.

00:06:28.920 They don't report on that.

00:06:31.580 And yet, they wonder why people are pissed off.

00:06:34.880 You wonder why groups like the Patriot Prayer are springing up to go fight these guys.

00:06:41.200 Newsflash to the media.

00:06:42.420 If you want to make things worse, just keep doing what you are doing.

00:06:49.280 Ignoring half of the country and belittling them.

00:06:53.960 Continue not to listen to the worries and the fears.

00:06:57.120 Because that's what you did in the last eight years.

00:06:59.800 You mocked and ridiculed and never had an honest conversation with anyone on the right.

00:07:06.240 And by the way, I define an honest conversation as asking questions whose answers could influence the way you view the world.

00:07:16.520 If a few people giving you the finger and chanting CNN sucks gets you scared, imagine how terrified an African-American woman was just this weekend.

00:07:36.860 As she was surrounded by a mob of frothing white people.

00:07:43.080 One of those things is a little more frightening.

00:07:49.960 It's Tuesday, August 7th.

00:08:00.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:08:02.240 I don't want to do my job anymore.

00:08:06.180 I really don't.

00:08:07.360 I don't want to do my job anymore.

00:08:08.640 And yet there's no place that I would rather be.

00:08:11.500 I cannot remain silent.

00:08:13.860 I cannot remain silent.

00:08:15.200 And I just, I don't, I just, I know what's coming.

00:08:19.380 I can see what's coming.

00:08:20.520 We all can.

00:08:21.400 I've warned about it.

00:08:22.660 It's here.

00:08:23.600 It's here.

00:08:25.040 It is here.

00:08:26.360 This is the time that I said there's going to come a time when people will be going in all directions.

00:08:32.080 They won't know what to do.

00:08:33.200 They're going to be trying to follow the wrong people.

00:08:35.440 And you have to be strong enough and know what your principles are to say, don't, don't, don't go there.

00:08:43.720 The rage and the anger that we spoke about is here.

00:08:48.800 And it's only going to get worse.

00:08:51.280 And the press is only going to make it worse because they refuse to listen.

00:08:58.980 Listen.

00:09:05.440 Such wasted breath.

00:09:14.680 Mainstream media.

00:09:16.120 Why do we have Donald Trump?

00:09:18.400 You've been asking, how could this happen?

00:09:21.380 So have you come up with an answer yet?

00:09:23.880 I know your original answer, and I think it's still your answer, but I'd be open to hearing another answer from you.

00:09:29.840 I know your answer was, well, America is racist.

00:09:32.600 America is bigoted.

00:09:34.020 America is whatever.

00:09:35.440 That's not the answer.

00:09:36.860 That's not why we have Donald Trump.

00:09:38.400 It's not.

00:09:41.700 The reason why we have Donald Trump.

00:09:45.820 And the reason why people say, well, he just says it like it is, even though he doesn't, even though he doesn't.

00:09:54.040 The reason why people feel that way is because they know who you are.

00:10:00.080 It wasn't long after 9-11, where the sides started to split, and first we were told the Patriot Act was so patriot, so patriotic.

00:10:18.900 You are a patriot if you, you're not a patriot if you don't.

00:10:21.580 Well, it wasn't a patriot, it wasn't, it was an un-American act.

00:10:27.900 And then, good people had differences on the war.

00:10:35.100 But, you really, you really did a number by embracing people like Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan.

00:10:48.380 Cindy Sheehan, who was a despicable, despicable messenger.

00:10:56.240 And I understand, you lose your son, and, you know, we have to give you a wide berth.

00:11:01.500 I get that, I get that, I get that, I really do.

00:11:04.940 But at some point, common decency also has to be respected.

00:11:12.260 You embraced, you embraced Alex Jones.

00:11:20.380 He's the father of the 9-11 conspiracy theory.

00:11:24.300 You embraced him, Donald Trump, I mean, George Bush, he knew, he knew, he knew.

00:11:35.700 Now, let's stop here for a second.

00:11:40.500 Why, why do we, do we have Donald Trump today?

00:11:45.380 One reason.

00:11:46.000 When Sandy Berger went in and, and took papers from the National Archives that related to both Bush and Clinton,

00:11:59.920 it was barely a blip on the radar.

00:12:04.780 If I went into the National Archives and I stole and destroyed documents,

00:12:09.920 I don't think I'd ever see the light of day.

00:12:12.200 Double standard.

00:12:17.140 People with power.

00:12:19.660 Sandy Berger was not a pariah.

00:12:23.700 Why?

00:12:25.020 Friend of the Clintons.

00:12:26.640 Friend of the Bushes.

00:12:29.000 So, does that help the 9-11 conspiracy theory?

00:12:33.340 No.

00:12:34.100 Nope.

00:12:34.440 Makes it worse.

00:12:35.640 Makes it worse.

00:12:36.720 I do not believe that George Bush had any idea,

00:12:39.600 nobody had any idea that they were going to fly planes into the building,

00:12:44.020 and nobody blew them up.

00:12:46.020 Alex Jones was wrong.

00:12:48.500 And the Democrats that embraced Alex Jones were wrong.

00:12:54.760 And then we had Katrina.

00:12:57.040 And people like Van Jones,

00:13:00.100 and the color of, what is it, the color of people,

00:13:03.100 or the color of change,

00:13:04.180 those people,

00:13:06.880 those organizations,

00:13:09.020 that said,

00:13:10.760 and endorsed,

00:13:13.000 the viewpoint of,

00:13:15.520 George Bush just hates black people.

00:13:19.320 And you let it slide.

00:13:23.020 Kanye did not have a problem saying that.

00:13:25.520 Not, not anywhere.

00:13:27.340 Not anywhere.

00:13:28.180 Like what he said when he said,

00:13:29.640 why, you know,

00:13:30.360 why do I not,

00:13:31.960 why can I not respect the President of the United States

00:13:36.340 if he's Donald Trump,

00:13:37.260 even if I don't agree with him?

00:13:38.520 You wanted him crucified for that.

00:13:41.620 But George,

00:13:42.480 George Bush hates black people was fine.

00:13:50.500 Everything was corrupt under George Bush.

00:13:53.280 All of the war,

00:13:54.300 the war dead.

00:13:55.140 Every day we saw the countdown of how many people died.

00:13:59.640 And then a new president was elected

00:14:01.640 who said he was going to stop the war.

00:14:03.460 He expanded the war.

00:14:06.680 And you never told us a body count for eight years.

00:14:12.560 Why do we have Donald Trump?

00:14:15.060 Why do we have Donald Trump?

00:14:18.600 In that eight year period,

00:14:21.080 you called half of America racist.

00:14:24.280 You didn't even take the time to listen.

00:14:28.280 Listen,

00:14:29.340 you didn't,

00:14:29.980 you didn't have an open up enough mind to say,

00:14:33.720 wait a minute.

00:14:35.000 I don't think 50% of America

00:14:38.160 is a despicable group of garbage people.

00:14:42.960 You didn't give us that respect.

00:14:45.440 You instead called us racist.

00:14:48.200 You instead said,

00:14:49.640 we are plotting against this government.

00:14:52.040 We love the government.

00:14:53.860 We love the Constitution of the United States of America.

00:14:57.380 We do not like the government

00:14:59.280 and the way it is enacting those things

00:15:01.900 because it is corrupt.

00:15:03.560 And you know it is.

00:15:05.580 You can't tell me,

00:15:06.740 why did you,

00:15:07.260 why did you turn so hard

00:15:08.580 on your beloved Queen Clinton?

00:15:11.740 Why?

00:15:12.240 Why?

00:15:12.700 Because you know she's corrupt.

00:15:15.620 You know it just as much as we know it,

00:15:18.380 but you ignored it.

00:15:29.880 Why do we have Donald Trump?

00:15:34.660 Because you have isolated 50% of this nation.

00:15:38.400 You have lied to us.

00:15:39.980 You have told us you're better than us.

00:15:44.300 You have told us that you're smarter than us.

00:15:48.080 Some of us still believe

00:15:49.980 in the idea

00:15:51.680 that man can rule himself,

00:15:54.660 that I don't need

00:15:56.200 a day sitter.

00:15:59.640 I don't need somebody to tell me

00:16:01.580 what to do,

00:16:02.320 what to eat,

00:16:02.960 where to go,

00:16:03.560 who to hire,

00:16:04.240 who to fire.

00:16:05.720 Some of us still believe

00:16:07.140 in those individual rights.

00:16:08.800 You don't.

00:16:11.680 You think you know what's better.

00:16:14.440 And yesterday,

00:16:15.240 your claims on MSNBC,

00:16:18.260 where you're all sitting around

00:16:19.540 as a group of journalists

00:16:20.640 saying,

00:16:21.320 we need another word for socialism,

00:16:24.220 is evidence of that.

00:16:26.660 You think we're so stupid

00:16:28.440 that if you just change

00:16:30.180 the name of socialism

00:16:31.780 to happy free stuff

00:16:34.520 for everybody,

00:16:35.600 we'll just go along with it.

00:16:37.180 And you know what?

00:16:38.020 Because you've controlled

00:16:39.300 the education system

00:16:40.560 in this country

00:16:41.220 for so long

00:16:42.040 and you've destroyed it

00:16:43.700 from the core,

00:16:44.760 you just might be right.

00:16:54.260 You cannot go over the cliff

00:16:55.840 with the rest of humanity.

00:16:56.740 I know how you feel.

00:17:00.280 I know how you feel.

00:17:02.700 I have a lot to talk to you about today.

00:17:07.040 And some of it's going to be uncomfortable.

00:17:10.240 But none of it can lead

00:17:12.440 to anger and outrage.

00:17:15.220 We have to find a way

00:17:17.600 away from that.

00:17:20.760 Because it is going to tear us apart.

00:17:24.340 We are at the point of choosing.

00:17:27.440 Will we live

00:17:28.580 or will we die as a nation?

00:17:31.320 Will we live

00:17:32.160 or will we die

00:17:33.020 as a Western culture?

00:17:37.080 I hate to say this

00:17:38.360 because it's so very controversial,

00:17:40.260 but choose life.

00:17:50.420 So tomorrow night,

00:17:51.880 cryptocurrency expert

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00:17:53.600 is holding an important

00:17:54.520 live Q&A.

00:17:56.340 I urge you to be there.

00:17:58.380 There's a lot going on

00:18:00.080 in the cryptocurrency markets.

00:18:02.260 So to help you through it,

00:18:04.200 Tika is holding

00:18:04.820 a live Q&A

00:18:06.000 tomorrow night

00:18:06.800 at 8 p.m.

00:18:08.240 as a follow-up

00:18:09.000 to the event

00:18:09.680 that we had

00:18:10.900 on July 19th.

00:18:12.940 So tomorrow night,

00:18:13.760 Tika is going to be updating you

00:18:14.840 on the latest developments

00:18:15.760 in the cryptocurrency space

00:18:16.960 over the last two weeks.

00:18:18.360 He's going to answer

00:18:18.920 all of your burning questions

00:18:20.760 live on that call.

00:18:22.980 Feedback to the event

00:18:24.040 was truly overwhelming

00:18:25.800 and he's preparing this

00:18:28.000 to be an extended session.

00:18:29.780 So he has time

00:18:30.720 to get to your comments

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00:18:41.100 There's a lot going on

00:18:42.580 and I don't know,

00:18:43.660 I have a few questions

00:18:44.540 for myself.

00:18:45.860 You can answer,

00:18:47.840 have your questions answered.

00:18:49.280 All you have to do

00:18:49.880 is just follow the prompts.

00:18:51.460 Hope to see you there.

00:18:52.560 Profitable evening

00:18:53.440 hopefully for you.

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00:18:59.660 I tell you,

00:19:03.580 freedom of speech

00:19:05.620 and the Bill of Rights

00:19:07.100 only mean something

00:19:09.440 when you stand for things

00:19:11.920 you do not want to stand for.

00:19:14.160 My record on Alex Jones

00:19:15.740 is very clear.

00:19:17.640 I think he is destructive.

00:19:19.060 I think he is poison.

00:19:20.800 I think he is dangerous.

00:19:22.220 I think he's,

00:19:22.800 I think there is a chance

00:19:24.080 he's deeply unsettled

00:19:26.460 as a human being.

00:19:27.440 But I want to talk to you

00:19:31.920 about freedom of speech.

00:19:33.080 Are you,

00:19:33.500 but it is private companies.

00:19:35.160 Uh-huh.

00:19:35.740 Mm-hmm.

00:19:36.540 Mm-hmm.

00:19:37.000 I know.

00:19:38.300 I know.

00:19:40.320 But we have to have

00:19:41.860 an adult conversation

00:19:44.100 about digital ghettoization.

00:19:49.160 What does that mean?

00:19:50.420 That's just another stupid.

00:19:51.480 Digital ghettoization.

00:19:53.880 It's a term that every American

00:19:56.420 should learn quickly.

00:19:59.840 More in a minute.

00:20:04.980 So in the 1930s,

00:20:08.000 the Nazis

00:20:10.600 began to search the world over

00:20:13.460 for laws

00:20:15.820 and ways

00:20:17.080 that they could eventually

00:20:18.380 do the final solution.

00:20:21.060 They were all insane.

00:20:22.480 And yet they were

00:20:25.340 perfectly rational.

00:20:27.060 They went and they,

00:20:28.300 they looked at all of the laws

00:20:29.720 and a lot of the laws

00:20:30.880 that led to the Nuremberg laws

00:20:32.660 in Germany

00:20:33.300 came from the United States

00:20:35.260 and the way

00:20:36.440 Jim Crow laws

00:20:37.700 were enacted here

00:20:38.560 and how we could

00:20:39.920 separate people

00:20:40.820 from race

00:20:41.840 by race

00:20:42.860 and,

00:20:43.260 and,

00:20:44.120 you know,

00:20:44.700 what made an African American

00:20:46.360 an African American.

00:20:47.300 One drop of blood

00:20:49.020 was the rule here.

00:20:50.660 One drop of blood.

00:20:51.620 The Nazis

00:20:52.440 thought that

00:20:53.480 went too far.

00:20:56.540 They thought

00:20:57.300 that was too extreme.

00:20:59.860 And so they came up

00:21:01.200 with their own laws

00:21:02.300 and ways

00:21:02.980 you could decide

00:21:03.820 if someone was Jewish

00:21:04.820 or if they were German

00:21:05.980 and Aryan.

00:21:08.600 And then they just said

00:21:09.840 things like,

00:21:10.420 you know,

00:21:10.640 you can't use a radio.

00:21:13.340 You can't use a car.

00:21:15.460 And they just started

00:21:16.540 nibbling around the edges.

00:21:18.780 You shouldn't have

00:21:19.800 a voice in teaching.

00:21:20.680 We don't need

00:21:23.900 any of that

00:21:24.280 Jewish nonsense

00:21:24.960 around here.

00:21:27.780 And they took it.

00:21:29.280 And people just

00:21:30.320 got further

00:21:32.480 and further away

00:21:33.320 from the main square.

00:21:34.700 Then everybody

00:21:35.440 had to live

00:21:35.960 in a certain section.

00:21:37.540 The Jewish ghetto.

00:21:39.140 And then Germans

00:21:39.840 just walled them in.

00:21:41.020 We're going to move you here.

00:21:41.800 Hey,

00:21:42.000 they're free.

00:21:42.660 They're still free.

00:21:43.400 They just live

00:21:43.880 behind that wall.

00:21:44.920 They're totally free.

00:21:45.980 What?

00:21:46.940 What?

00:21:48.240 You know what?

00:21:48.800 You're right.

00:21:49.520 You're right.

00:21:49.840 The ghetto's a bad thing.

00:21:50.760 We're going to throw them

00:21:51.240 on a train

00:21:51.640 and we're going to send them

00:21:52.360 to some paradise.

00:21:53.360 It's going to be great.

00:21:54.740 We don't have the thing

00:21:56.000 against the Jews,

00:21:56.860 although we would like

00:21:57.740 to see all of them dead.

00:21:59.100 We're just going to get them

00:22:00.220 their own little special

00:22:01.520 place to live.

00:22:03.960 And everybody was fine

00:22:05.180 because, you know,

00:22:06.120 it's the Jews.

00:22:09.680 You don't have to

00:22:10.460 wall people up anymore.

00:22:11.460 You can have

00:22:14.760 the digital media

00:22:15.620 do that.

00:22:17.400 See,

00:22:18.000 why do we have

00:22:18.900 Donald Trump?

00:22:19.720 We have Donald Trump

00:22:21.160 because people said

00:22:22.560 the media

00:22:23.160 is lying to us.

00:22:25.560 They are covering

00:22:26.340 for the corruption.

00:22:27.740 There's a double standard

00:22:29.200 and they're stepping

00:22:31.240 on anyone's throat

00:22:32.660 who disagrees with them.

00:22:35.140 They do it

00:22:36.060 in the universities

00:22:36.920 and they're doing it

00:22:38.200 in the media.

00:22:38.800 I have nothing

00:22:41.020 against them.

00:22:42.400 I just think

00:22:43.740 that there's another

00:22:44.540 way to do it.

00:22:49.580 So there was

00:22:50.240 a double standard.

00:22:51.240 It was the lack

00:22:52.240 of consistency.

00:22:54.140 Wait a minute.

00:22:54.980 Wait a minute.

00:22:55.560 Wait a minute.

00:22:56.040 Wait a minute.

00:22:56.820 You're going to put

00:22:57.600 a guy who took

00:22:58.400 a picture

00:22:58.940 for his children

00:23:00.620 of the inside

00:23:02.180 of a submarine.

00:23:03.500 You're going to put

00:23:04.080 him in prison

00:23:05.060 but Hillary Clinton

00:23:06.800 is good?

00:23:08.800 That's all good

00:23:10.060 to go?

00:23:11.960 No.

00:23:15.420 Why do we have

00:23:16.260 Donald Trump?

00:23:16.840 Because you were

00:23:17.420 inconsistent.

00:23:18.380 Now the new media

00:23:20.120 comes in

00:23:20.780 and the new media

00:23:22.120 says you don't

00:23:23.220 have to do that.

00:23:24.820 You don't have

00:23:25.500 to play those games.

00:23:27.520 You're in charge.

00:23:29.680 All you have

00:23:30.640 to do is tell us

00:23:31.640 who you like,

00:23:33.340 who you want

00:23:34.100 to follow,

00:23:35.160 who you want

00:23:35.920 to listen to

00:23:36.920 and the algorithm

00:23:38.240 will make it

00:23:38.900 sure that they

00:23:39.520 come to the

00:23:40.180 top of your

00:23:40.820 feed.

00:23:42.300 Until that new

00:23:43.580 media got so

00:23:44.660 big and so

00:23:45.460 powerful that

00:23:46.680 they decided

00:23:47.620 now that they

00:23:48.660 had to be the

00:23:49.460 arbiter of truth

00:23:50.520 because the

00:23:51.380 mainstream media

00:23:52.340 was no longer

00:23:53.160 credible.

00:23:53.920 We're not getting

00:23:54.800 our news from

00:23:55.680 mainstream media

00:23:56.800 anymore.

00:23:57.180 We're getting it

00:23:58.120 online.

00:23:58.760 We're getting it

00:23:59.160 from Twitter or

00:24:00.020 Facebook.

00:24:00.500 Facebook.

00:24:01.640 So now they

00:24:02.780 have a

00:24:03.240 responsibility.

00:24:04.880 And so even

00:24:05.340 though they told

00:24:05.980 us we were in

00:24:06.940 charge, their

00:24:07.820 algorithm shadow

00:24:09.660 blocks people.

00:24:11.580 So in other

00:24:11.900 words, if you

00:24:12.480 signed up and

00:24:13.080 said, I want to

00:24:13.560 get everything

00:24:13.940 from Glenn Beck,

00:24:14.720 you're not

00:24:14.980 getting everything

00:24:15.460 from Glenn Beck.

00:24:16.940 Their algorithm

00:24:17.840 is sorting

00:24:18.420 through.

00:24:18.860 You don't mean

00:24:19.520 you really want

00:24:20.340 Glenn Beck.

00:24:21.040 Well, there's

00:24:21.300 some other

00:24:21.580 things you probably

00:24:22.360 like better than

00:24:23.080 Glenn Beck.

00:24:23.700 No, excuse me.

00:24:25.480 I signed up.

00:24:26.460 I want to

00:24:27.020 follow that

00:24:27.500 person.

00:24:28.040 And when

00:24:31.060 that doesn't

00:24:31.700 work, then

00:24:32.860 they start just

00:24:33.580 blocking us

00:24:34.780 and narrowing

00:24:36.220 our voice and

00:24:37.220 they start

00:24:37.640 building a wall

00:24:38.680 around us

00:24:39.500 between you,

00:24:40.660 me and

00:24:41.580 you.

00:24:43.160 We agreed

00:24:44.200 that we wanted

00:24:44.820 to talk to

00:24:45.480 each other.

00:24:47.380 Well, it's

00:24:48.080 just getting

00:24:48.420 too hateful.

00:24:49.500 Oh, okay.

00:24:51.060 All right.

00:24:51.580 So blocking

00:24:52.260 me or making

00:24:53.160 it harder for

00:24:53.900 my audience.

00:24:55.400 And by the

00:24:55.700 way, that

00:24:56.700 seems inconsistent

00:24:58.020 well, it's

00:24:59.860 we got to

00:25:00.420 get rid of

00:25:00.720 hate speech.

00:25:01.560 Okay.

00:25:02.460 Can you

00:25:03.100 help me

00:25:03.480 out with

00:25:03.980 with Sarah

00:25:05.200 Zhang from

00:25:07.180 the New York

00:25:07.560 Times who

00:25:08.400 did all those

00:25:08.880 tweets?

00:25:09.900 F white

00:25:11.260 people.

00:25:11.900 And when

00:25:12.660 when Candace

00:25:13.660 did it just

00:25:14.360 over the

00:25:14.660 weekend, it

00:25:15.340 took you 20

00:25:16.000 minutes to

00:25:16.660 ban her.

00:25:17.940 She reversed

00:25:18.900 it.

00:25:19.840 She's an

00:25:20.440 African-American

00:25:21.140 that said F

00:25:22.020 black people.

00:25:23.800 And she

00:25:24.560 used all of

00:25:25.620 the, she

00:25:26.100 just quoted

00:25:26.980 all of the

00:25:27.920 tweets.

00:25:28.240 She just

00:25:28.940 reversed the

00:25:29.760 race.

00:25:30.220 You banned

00:25:31.340 her in 20

00:25:32.180 minutes.

00:25:34.480 Seems

00:25:35.120 inconsistent.

00:25:36.640 Why do we

00:25:37.240 have Donald

00:25:37.860 Trump?

00:25:38.440 Because you're

00:25:40.120 not consistent.

00:25:42.200 So I'm going

00:25:43.100 to say

00:25:43.340 something that

00:25:44.300 I know is

00:25:45.000 controversial

00:25:45.500 because I'm

00:25:46.020 already getting

00:25:46.500 beaten up

00:25:47.180 on online for

00:25:49.040 saying this

00:25:49.480 this morning.

00:25:52.780 Digital

00:25:53.460 ghettoization.

00:25:54.360 you don't

00:25:55.820 need to

00:25:56.740 round people

00:25:57.380 up anymore.

00:25:58.420 All you

00:25:58.660 have to do

00:25:59.300 is make

00:25:59.940 sure there's

00:26:00.360 a wall

00:26:00.760 around them

00:26:01.420 digitally so

00:26:02.460 they can

00:26:03.460 talk all

00:26:03.960 they want.

00:26:04.780 Talk all

00:26:05.200 you want,

00:26:05.680 buddy.

00:26:06.500 Talk, talk,

00:26:06.920 talk, talk,

00:26:07.200 talk, talk,

00:26:07.520 talk, talk,

00:26:07.780 talk.

00:26:08.720 No one

00:26:09.360 will hear

00:26:10.400 you.

00:26:14.060 We've put

00:26:14.660 you in a

00:26:15.020 ghetto and

00:26:15.800 we've built

00:26:16.300 a wall around

00:26:17.040 you.

00:26:18.000 And you're

00:26:18.620 free to do

00:26:19.160 everything.

00:26:19.840 You do

00:26:20.140 everything you

00:26:20.740 want.

00:26:21.780 Well, Glenn,

00:26:22.280 now, wait,

00:26:22.860 wait a minute.

00:26:23.380 When it comes

00:26:24.240 to Alex

00:26:24.660 Jones, I

00:26:25.420 mean, he

00:26:25.700 said some

00:26:26.060 reprehensible

00:26:26.640 thing.

00:26:27.160 I know I've

00:26:28.540 been consistent

00:26:29.600 on Alex

00:26:30.380 Jones since

00:26:31.680 the first

00:26:32.280 time I

00:26:32.960 heard him.

00:26:34.380 I'm probably

00:26:35.360 the only one

00:26:36.620 in the media

00:26:37.140 that has a

00:26:37.680 20 year

00:26:38.500 long standing

00:26:40.340 very clear

00:26:41.940 record on

00:26:42.760 Alex Jones

00:26:43.580 being despicable.

00:26:46.660 So I know

00:26:47.800 who he is.

00:26:53.380 But we're

00:26:54.040 entering a

00:26:54.480 time where

00:26:54.860 there is a

00:26:56.300 distinction

00:26:56.900 without

00:26:57.460 difference.

00:26:58.660 The government's

00:26:59.460 not doing

00:26:59.820 this.

00:27:00.440 Private

00:27:00.760 companies are

00:27:01.520 doing this.

00:27:02.360 Yes.

00:27:03.760 So you're

00:27:04.560 right.

00:27:05.040 That is a

00:27:05.540 distinction.

00:27:06.580 But what

00:27:07.580 in the end

00:27:08.200 is the

00:27:08.580 difference?

00:27:09.340 When I

00:27:09.840 saw that

00:27:10.300 LinkedIn

00:27:10.980 banned

00:27:12.200 him.

00:27:15.880 LinkedIn.

00:27:17.100 What did

00:27:17.400 he?

00:27:17.660 How did

00:27:18.220 he violate

00:27:18.980 LinkedIn?

00:27:20.220 Can

00:27:20.440 LinkedIn

00:27:20.860 show me

00:27:21.760 what rules

00:27:22.920 he violated

00:27:23.800 on LinkedIn?

00:27:26.200 This is a

00:27:27.120 mob.

00:27:27.520 Everybody wants

00:27:28.120 their bonus

00:27:28.700 points.

00:27:29.140 Everybody wants

00:27:29.580 their brownie

00:27:30.120 points.

00:27:30.500 Yeah, we

00:27:30.840 got rid of

00:27:31.340 them too.

00:27:33.440 What did

00:27:34.940 he violate

00:27:35.820 on LinkedIn?

00:27:39.140 Help me

00:27:39.900 out.

00:27:40.720 Now, I

00:27:41.700 happen to

00:27:42.320 have a

00:27:43.520 tweet from

00:27:46.840 Christina

00:27:47.480 Warren.

00:27:48.020 and she

00:27:50.240 said F

00:27:51.520 white people.

00:27:52.360 She used

00:27:52.600 the whole

00:27:53.000 word F

00:27:53.880 white people.

00:27:54.740 Now, why

00:27:54.980 do I bring

00:27:55.400 this up?

00:27:55.940 Because I'm

00:27:56.580 pretty sure

00:27:57.040 she's on

00:27:57.660 LinkedIn and

00:27:59.320 she is a

00:28:00.720 vice president

00:28:01.580 of Microsoft

00:28:02.600 that owns

00:28:04.580 LinkedIn.

00:28:07.300 Now, there

00:28:08.260 was no

00:28:08.540 trouble with

00:28:09.020 her saying

00:28:09.580 F white

00:28:10.680 people.

00:28:11.320 I'm just

00:28:12.180 wondering.

00:28:14.240 Did.

00:28:14.840 Did he

00:28:17.020 do something

00:28:17.640 worse than

00:28:18.300 that on

00:28:19.280 LinkedIn?

00:28:22.060 Here's why

00:28:22.840 it's important

00:28:23.380 to know.

00:28:25.520 Even the

00:28:26.380 Nazis sat

00:28:27.700 down and

00:28:28.180 wrote down

00:28:28.760 all of the

00:28:29.300 rules.

00:28:30.020 If you

00:28:30.740 don't have

00:28:31.140 rules and

00:28:32.540 your problem

00:28:33.180 is inconsistency,

00:28:35.000 what's causing

00:28:36.220 our turmoil

00:28:37.220 is there

00:28:38.140 are no

00:28:38.620 rules.

00:28:39.440 There's

00:28:39.700 nothing cut

00:28:40.500 in stone,

00:28:41.220 not even

00:28:42.060 our gender.

00:28:44.360 Nothing

00:28:44.920 is in

00:28:45.720 stone.

00:28:46.320 There is

00:28:46.600 no absolute

00:28:47.360 truth.

00:28:48.220 There is

00:28:48.640 no list

00:28:49.440 that you

00:28:49.740 could say,

00:28:50.060 well, I

00:28:50.320 don't want

00:28:50.560 to do

00:28:50.760 that.

00:28:51.580 I'd like

00:28:52.240 to know

00:28:52.700 from

00:28:53.040 LinkedIn.

00:28:54.460 I know

00:28:55.420 what Alex

00:28:56.020 Jones did.

00:28:56.980 I told

00:28:57.620 you long

00:28:59.440 before you

00:29:00.600 were ever

00:29:01.200 on the Alex

00:29:01.840 Jones bandwagon

00:29:02.880 how bad

00:29:03.940 and how

00:29:04.260 dangerous

00:29:04.860 this guy

00:29:05.400 was.

00:29:05.740 So I'm

00:29:06.420 very well

00:29:07.080 aware and

00:29:07.940 it does

00:29:08.360 mean absolutely

00:29:09.400 no good

00:29:10.460 to defend

00:29:11.480 the position

00:29:12.140 of freedom

00:29:12.760 of speech

00:29:13.640 with Alex

00:29:14.740 Jones.

00:29:15.280 But the

00:29:16.420 Bill of

00:29:17.000 Rights only

00:29:17.880 counts when

00:29:19.580 it hurts

00:29:20.380 you personally

00:29:21.960 to stand.

00:29:23.720 And this

00:29:24.680 one's killing

00:29:25.780 me.

00:29:30.920 I would

00:29:31.900 just like

00:29:32.440 the list

00:29:33.160 because it

00:29:36.180 seems as

00:29:37.040 though it's

00:29:37.580 a little bit

00:29:38.540 subjective right

00:29:39.780 now.

00:29:41.340 And if

00:29:42.080 you can't

00:29:42.780 tell me

00:29:43.160 specifically

00:29:44.120 what that

00:29:44.840 list is,

00:29:45.880 I'm concerned

00:29:46.920 you could do

00:29:47.580 that to

00:29:48.000 other people

00:29:48.760 because I

00:29:50.400 don't know

00:29:50.660 if anybody

00:29:51.060 else has

00:29:51.540 noticed,

00:29:51.980 but we're

00:29:52.460 entering a

00:29:53.040 time of

00:29:53.580 the McCarthy

00:29:54.160 hearings.

00:29:55.640 You're not

00:29:56.360 even given

00:29:56.960 a microphone

00:29:57.760 and told to

00:29:58.420 sit in front

00:29:59.240 of Congress.

00:30:00.080 You're just

00:30:00.780 gone.

00:30:05.080 And it's

00:30:05.800 happening on

00:30:06.260 both sides.

00:30:07.060 So I

00:30:09.080 just like to

00:30:10.000 know what

00:30:10.380 the rules

00:30:10.980 are because

00:30:12.140 I can guarantee

00:30:12.880 you that my

00:30:13.840 company will

00:30:14.560 play by the

00:30:15.320 rules.

00:30:16.340 My company

00:30:16.840 will know the

00:30:17.480 difference between

00:30:18.560 what you can

00:30:20.280 and cannot do

00:30:21.520 on each

00:30:22.120 platform.

00:30:22.720 And if we

00:30:23.620 violate them,

00:30:24.580 we will know

00:30:25.720 and we will

00:30:26.660 have knowingly

00:30:27.820 violated them

00:30:28.600 and say to

00:30:29.300 ourselves,

00:30:29.800 if we do

00:30:30.400 that, that

00:30:31.220 will probably

00:30:31.780 get us kicked

00:30:32.440 off, well,

00:30:33.080 it's more

00:30:33.600 important that

00:30:34.200 we say

00:30:34.620 that.

00:30:35.340 At least

00:30:36.160 I'll know

00:30:36.820 going in.

00:30:41.760 Specifically

00:30:42.400 LinkedIn, I'd

00:30:44.020 like to start

00:30:44.780 with you.

00:30:47.120 What rule

00:30:48.680 did he

00:30:49.660 violate?

00:30:50.700 Because I

00:30:51.860 certainly

00:30:52.700 don't want

00:30:54.140 to be put

00:30:54.760 into your

00:30:55.340 digital ghetto.

00:30:57.040 Do you

00:30:57.720 want the

00:30:58.000 LinkedIn

00:30:58.380 statement on

00:31:00.040 their decision?

00:31:01.100 Now, the

00:31:01.380 Alex Jones

00:31:02.020 seems to

00:31:03.460 still be up

00:31:04.000 on LinkedIn,

00:31:04.740 but InfoWars

00:31:05.680 has been

00:31:06.200 removed.

00:31:07.420 They say

00:31:08.160 we have

00:31:08.620 removed the

00:31:09.140 InfoWars

00:31:09.560 company page

00:31:10.220 for violating

00:31:10.940 our terms

00:31:11.400 of service.

00:31:12.580 We value

00:31:12.860 the professional

00:31:13.420 community on

00:31:14.120 LinkedIn and

00:31:14.720 strive to

00:31:15.660 create a

00:31:16.020 platform where

00:31:16.640 the exchange

00:31:17.120 of ideas

00:31:17.660 by professionals

00:31:18.480 can happen

00:31:19.080 without harmful

00:31:20.260 misinformation,

00:31:21.360 bullying,

00:31:22.100 harassment,

00:31:22.620 or hate.

00:31:23.440 We encourage

00:31:24.020 our members

00:31:24.460 to report

00:31:25.020 any inappropriate

00:31:25.780 content or

00:31:26.520 behavior.

00:31:27.200 We investigate

00:31:28.100 and if it's

00:31:29.000 in violation,

00:31:30.140 take action,

00:31:30.960 which could

00:31:31.480 include

00:31:31.840 removing the

00:31:32.480 content or

00:31:33.180 suspending the

00:31:34.240 account.

00:31:34.560 So, what

00:31:35.700 were the

00:31:35.980 complaints

00:31:36.400 against him?

00:31:37.500 What did

00:31:37.880 they complain

00:31:38.540 that he

00:31:38.940 did?

00:31:40.260 What exactly

00:31:41.320 did they do?

00:31:42.820 I know,

00:31:43.760 I know all

00:31:44.580 of the things

00:31:45.320 about, you

00:31:45.860 know, the,

00:31:46.820 you know,

00:31:47.440 the crisis

00:31:49.600 actors and

00:31:50.520 there was no

00:31:51.060 shootings.

00:31:51.500 I know how

00:31:52.260 despicable he

00:31:53.400 is.

00:31:54.080 I'd like to

00:31:54.820 know specifically

00:31:56.160 what did

00:31:58.160 they say he

00:31:59.300 was doing

00:31:59.960 to bully

00:32:00.720 people on

00:32:02.120 LinkedIn.

00:32:03.380 And tell me

00:32:03.840 what the

00:32:04.280 new thing

00:32:05.000 is.

00:32:05.480 Because he's

00:32:06.040 been doing

00:32:06.520 all of this

00:32:07.200 stuff for

00:32:07.900 20 years.

00:32:09.800 20 years.

00:32:10.800 All of a sudden

00:32:11.480 because Apple

00:32:12.160 decided to take

00:32:12.860 the first plunge,

00:32:13.540 now everyone's

00:32:13.940 just jumping on

00:32:14.620 the bandwagon

00:32:15.060 because now

00:32:15.540 it's easy.

00:32:16.620 And look,

00:32:16.980 yes, is he

00:32:17.820 passing around

00:32:18.880 harmful

00:32:19.320 misinformation?

00:32:20.200 Sure.

00:32:20.880 Sure is.

00:32:21.700 He's been

00:32:22.100 doing it

00:32:22.500 the entire

00:32:22.960 time.

00:32:24.100 So you're

00:32:24.900 right.

00:32:25.700 Like there's

00:32:26.020 but there is

00:32:26.760 a difference

00:32:27.280 here.

00:32:27.620 Do you think

00:32:28.080 this is going

00:32:28.600 to make it

00:32:29.060 better?

00:32:30.560 LinkedIn,

00:32:31.840 Twitter,

00:32:33.660 you know,

00:32:34.340 SoundCloud,

00:32:35.720 all of these,

00:32:36.940 all of these.

00:32:37.660 By the way,

00:32:37.900 new one,

00:32:38.200 Pinterest.

00:32:39.160 Pinterest.

00:32:39.640 Pinterest has

00:32:40.260 taken down.

00:32:40.880 Pinterest.

00:32:41.860 Okay.

00:32:42.560 So you

00:32:43.800 think this is

00:32:44.560 making it

00:32:45.060 better?

00:32:45.820 What do you

00:32:46.520 think the

00:32:47.820 people who

00:32:48.500 listen to,

00:32:49.540 you've just

00:32:50.160 proved him

00:32:50.860 right.

00:32:51.700 And by the

00:32:52.360 way,

00:32:52.780 I'd like to

00:32:53.460 know how

00:32:54.620 come Louis

00:32:55.480 Farrakhan is

00:32:56.420 still everywhere?

00:32:58.060 What is Louis

00:32:58.980 Farrakhan have

00:32:59.940 to do?

00:33:02.100 Why is there a

00:33:03.000 double standard

00:33:03.540 there with

00:33:04.000 Louis Farrakhan?

00:33:05.680 Oh, I

00:33:06.320 remember because

00:33:06.840 I remember

00:33:07.280 asking this

00:33:07.820 question in

00:33:08.240 the 1980s

00:33:09.020 and at least

00:33:09.960 it made sense

00:33:10.840 to me.

00:33:11.340 You don't

00:33:11.860 want to ban

00:33:12.400 anybody.

00:33:12.940 You don't

00:33:13.240 want to make

00:33:13.700 you don't

00:33:14.040 want to silence

00:33:15.060 and quash

00:33:15.680 anybody because

00:33:16.220 you'll make

00:33:16.860 them into a

00:33:18.400 martyr and

00:33:19.920 it'll make

00:33:20.320 their argument

00:33:20.920 stronger.

00:33:21.520 That's not

00:33:22.080 what we do

00:33:22.720 in America.

00:33:23.880 What the

00:33:24.600 hell do you

00:33:25.420 what are you

00:33:25.840 thinking?

00:33:26.100 You think this

00:33:26.600 is going to

00:33:26.900 make this

00:33:27.220 better?

00:33:27.820 When a guy

00:33:28.520 who says

00:33:28.980 they're going

00:33:29.320 to come for

00:33:29.760 me, they're

00:33:30.080 going to

00:33:30.260 come for me,

00:33:30.700 they're going

00:33:30.880 to silence

00:33:31.380 me and

00:33:31.840 it'll just

00:33:32.240 prove that

00:33:32.700 I'm right.

00:33:33.260 And then

00:33:33.680 you come

00:33:34.160 for him and

00:33:34.640 you silence

00:33:35.200 him.

00:33:35.620 What are

00:33:35.980 you a

00:33:36.340 moron?

00:33:37.720 What do

00:33:37.920 you not

00:33:38.440 believe?

00:33:38.860 Here's the

00:33:39.260 answer.

00:33:40.060 Here's the

00:33:40.400 answer.

00:33:40.720 I'll pose

00:33:41.080 it as a

00:33:41.420 question, but

00:33:42.020 this is the

00:33:42.560 answer.

00:33:43.200 What is

00:33:43.680 it?

00:33:44.680 Do you

00:33:45.100 not believe

00:33:46.180 that the

00:33:46.680 American

00:33:47.100 people should

00:33:48.360 be trusted

00:33:49.180 to be able

00:33:50.760 to look at

00:33:51.340 everything and

00:33:52.180 come to the

00:33:52.740 right conclusion?

00:33:53.560 your actions

00:33:57.600 through

00:33:57.940 journalism

00:33:58.560 have

00:34:00.360 answered that

00:34:00.980 question for

00:34:01.880 decades.

00:34:12.260 My Patriot

00:34:13.200 Supply.

00:34:17.100 Boy, I

00:34:17.800 don't, you

00:34:18.140 know, I

00:34:18.500 just don't.

00:34:20.180 May I

00:34:23.680 recommend

00:34:24.060 that, you

00:34:25.600 know, just

00:34:25.940 for any

00:34:26.340 old reason,

00:34:27.780 I mean, just

00:34:28.160 could be

00:34:28.420 anything,

00:34:29.000 civil war,

00:34:29.800 anything,

00:34:30.720 Russian

00:34:30.960 hackers, you

00:34:32.660 know, loss

00:34:34.060 of the power

00:34:34.540 grid from

00:34:35.140 Russians, you

00:34:36.060 know, things,

00:34:36.520 anything, it

00:34:37.000 could be

00:34:37.220 anything, could

00:34:37.620 be wildfires.

00:34:40.420 It could be

00:34:41.200 the fact that

00:34:41.880 FEMA said

00:34:44.100 that they

00:34:45.180 can't, they

00:34:46.420 can't handle

00:34:46.980 all of the

00:34:47.560 disasters this

00:34:48.860 year and

00:34:49.380 you're not

00:34:50.080 going to have

00:34:50.500 FEMA coming

00:34:51.120 to help

00:34:51.540 you this

00:34:52.060 year.

00:34:53.020 Okay, all

00:34:53.900 right.

00:34:54.660 If your

00:34:55.320 home had

00:34:56.100 no power

00:34:56.620 for several

00:34:57.240 weeks because

00:34:58.260 of Russian

00:34:58.700 hackers or

00:35:00.080 because of,

00:35:01.100 you know, a

00:35:01.900 hurricane, what

00:35:04.140 happens if you

00:35:04.740 had to get out

00:35:05.280 of your house

00:35:05.820 quickly and

00:35:06.760 your house

00:35:07.120 burns down in

00:35:08.240 the California

00:35:08.720 wildfires?

00:35:10.120 There's no

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00:35:11.180 no grocery

00:35:11.660 stores around,

00:35:12.880 you have to

00:35:13.380 pay everything

00:35:13.940 out of pocket.

00:35:14.720 Now, how

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00:35:44.980 Glenn Beck

00:35:49.200 Welcome to the

00:35:50.740 program.

00:35:52.380 A little feisty

00:35:53.320 today, glad

00:35:54.280 you're here.

00:35:54.960 Hadn't noticed.

00:35:56.480 You're just kind

00:35:57.220 of focusing on the

00:35:57.800 wrong thing in my

00:35:58.460 opinion, however.

00:35:59.860 Alex Jones,

00:36:00.920 First Amendment

00:36:01.520 or free speech

00:36:02.840 in a civil society,

00:36:04.200 how does that

00:36:04.560 work?

00:36:04.780 Just consistency,

00:36:05.260 I just want the

00:36:05.820 rules, I just

00:36:06.580 want to know what

00:36:07.600 the rules are.

00:36:08.420 That's all I want.

00:36:08.640 And that's part of

00:36:09.820 this conversation.

00:36:10.480 I think the bigger

00:36:10.960 part though is we

00:36:12.500 can't ban Alex

00:36:13.580 Jones because of

00:36:14.140 the comedy.

00:36:15.380 Think of all the

00:36:16.220 comedy we would

00:36:17.000 lose if Alex

00:36:17.980 Jones goes away.

00:36:19.520 That is true.

00:36:20.320 And I'm not going

00:36:20.840 to go seek it out.

00:36:21.860 It's got to be.

00:36:23.020 Can we do an Alex

00:36:24.060 Jones retrospective?

00:36:25.960 We've got to do an

00:36:27.200 Alex Jones retrospective

00:36:28.560 because that could

00:36:29.760 I mean just the

00:36:30.620 memorial service there

00:36:31.760 could last an hour

00:36:32.820 with some of the

00:36:33.400 stuff.

00:36:33.700 I was looking at

00:36:34.080 Rolling Stone's top

00:36:35.040 Alex Jones conspiracy

00:36:36.080 theories and yeah

00:36:37.080 government controls

00:36:37.780 the weather, pizza

00:36:39.000 restaurant, you know

00:36:40.260 all that.

00:36:40.720 The last one,

00:36:41.340 former Fox News

00:36:42.060 host Glenn Beck

00:36:42.760 is a CIA operative.

00:36:44.140 Oh, aren't you

00:36:47.100 laughing?

00:36:47.520 Don't laugh.

00:36:48.280 I'm a double O.

00:36:51.600 Glenn Beck in his

00:36:54.180 book.

00:36:55.180 What are journalists

00:36:56.320 for?

00:36:57.520 Jay Rosen writes

00:36:58.620 the flow of

00:37:00.520 information from

00:37:01.500 source to public

00:37:02.600 through the media

00:37:03.400 is not a simple

00:37:04.160 matter of bringing

00:37:04.880 information to light.

00:37:05.760 It is about

00:37:06.420 instilling citizens

00:37:07.820 with an attentiveness

00:37:09.400 to information that

00:37:10.780 is vigilant and

00:37:11.880 unproductive.

00:37:13.620 OK, we've all

00:37:15.660 heard about Sarah

00:37:16.400 Zhang, Asian

00:37:17.580 journalist hired by

00:37:18.480 The New York

00:37:18.860 Times editorial

00:37:19.520 staff, despite

00:37:20.560 having several

00:37:21.840 years worth of

00:37:23.220 undoubtedly,

00:37:24.800 undeniably racist

00:37:26.140 tweets.

00:37:27.520 Andrew Sullivan

00:37:28.260 penned an excellent

00:37:29.160 article on the

00:37:30.340 ordeal and he

00:37:31.000 concludes, yes,

00:37:32.260 we all live on a

00:37:32.980 campus now.

00:37:33.820 The neo-Marxist

00:37:34.900 analysts of society

00:37:36.340 in which we are all

00:37:37.720 mere appendages of

00:37:39.340 various groups of

00:37:40.720 oppressors and

00:37:41.400 oppressed and in

00:37:42.840 which the oppressed

00:37:43.660 definitely cannot be

00:37:45.220 at fault is now the

00:37:46.580 governing philosophy in

00:37:47.700 almost all liberal

00:37:48.660 media.

00:37:49.840 That is how the

00:37:50.580 Washington Post can

00:37:51.420 provide a platform

00:37:52.780 for contempt and

00:37:54.820 the New York Times

00:37:55.800 can hire and defend

00:37:56.980 someone who expresses

00:37:58.040 racial racial hatred.

00:37:59.540 The great thing about

00:38:00.880 being in the social

00:38:01.560 justice movement is

00:38:03.020 how liberating it can

00:38:04.240 feel to give voice

00:38:06.020 to incendiary,

00:38:07.720 satisfying bigotry.

00:38:09.020 and know that

00:38:10.160 you're still on the

00:38:11.040 right side of

00:38:11.700 history, end

00:38:12.460 quote.

00:38:14.080 So since the story

00:38:15.220 blew up, we've

00:38:16.380 talked about it on

00:38:16.960 this program a lot

00:38:18.280 and so you know,

00:38:19.820 in case you missed

00:38:20.420 it, I don't believe

00:38:21.160 that she should be

00:38:21.960 fired, largely

00:38:23.540 because we have to

00:38:24.280 put an end to

00:38:25.000 these insane social

00:38:26.040 media lynchings.

00:38:27.680 This is not what I

00:38:28.580 believe.

00:38:30.700 It's not what I

00:38:31.700 even want to talk

00:38:32.380 about.

00:38:34.320 This whole thing

00:38:35.440 revolves around the

00:38:37.700 same thing we

00:38:38.780 talked about last

00:38:39.640 hour with Alex

00:38:40.380 Jones.

00:38:41.740 Consistency.

00:38:44.600 Alex Jones, crazy

00:38:46.460 conspiracy theorist,

00:38:47.800 says hateful things

00:38:48.920 that could cause

00:38:49.680 violence.

00:38:51.320 Louis Farrakhan.

00:38:53.600 Same thing.

00:38:55.200 Why is one okay?

00:38:56.460 Why is the other

00:38:57.420 not?

00:38:57.680 A house divided

00:39:00.300 against itself cannot

00:39:01.760 stand.

00:39:02.580 a kingdom divided

00:39:06.160 against itself is

00:39:07.340 brought to

00:39:07.760 desolation.

00:39:10.460 The divided house

00:39:11.860 in this case is the

00:39:12.700 New York Times and

00:39:13.600 they deserve to fall,

00:39:14.960 but they won't

00:39:16.180 because they'll

00:39:17.100 continue to be propped

00:39:17.900 up by this whole new

00:39:19.680 philosophy.

00:39:21.100 After the Zhang

00:39:22.140 incident, the

00:39:22.740 newspaper released

00:39:23.500 her following

00:39:24.340 statement.

00:39:25.180 Her journalism and

00:39:26.020 the fact that she's a

00:39:26.880 young Asian woman has

00:39:28.820 made her frequent of

00:39:30.500 online harassment.

00:39:32.140 For a period of time,

00:39:32.920 she responded to that

00:39:33.720 harassment by imitating

00:39:35.000 the rhetoric of her

00:39:35.920 harassers.

00:39:37.060 She now sees that this

00:39:38.320 approach only served to

00:39:39.340 feed the vitriol that we

00:39:40.420 often see on social

00:39:41.460 media.

00:39:42.600 Okay, so, wow, that's

00:39:44.840 very kind.

00:39:46.420 You going to forgive

00:39:46.900 everybody else?

00:39:48.920 There are so many

00:39:49.900 instances of double

00:39:50.840 standards within the

00:39:51.800 New York Times, so

00:39:52.580 many reasons that this

00:39:53.820 statement reveals it as

00:39:55.100 a broken house.

00:39:57.740 For now, I'd just like to

00:39:58.960 look at one New York

00:40:00.840 Times article in

00:40:01.800 particular.

00:40:04.600 It's from earlier this

00:40:05.900 year.

00:40:07.600 It's following the

00:40:08.600 Roseanne tweets.

00:40:10.080 The article was

00:40:11.900 headlined,

00:40:13.080 Roseanne is gone, but

00:40:14.740 the culture that gave

00:40:15.740 her a show isn't.

00:40:16.900 Now, the article is

00:40:19.320 fairly alarmist, lumping

00:40:21.040 all white people

00:40:21.700 together as bigoted and

00:40:22.740 hateful, but we expect

00:40:24.100 that from the New York

00:40:24.940 Times.

00:40:25.560 The paper ran a handful

00:40:27.020 of really huffy articles

00:40:28.640 decrying Roseanne's

00:40:29.620 obscene racism, and one

00:40:31.940 perfect example appears

00:40:33.800 in the introduction of

00:40:35.040 the hard news piece

00:40:36.580 about the matter.

00:40:38.260 Roseanne Barr crosses

00:40:39.720 the line and ABC

00:40:41.120 draws one.

00:40:42.880 They've deleted that

00:40:44.020 now.

00:40:44.820 It now reads,

00:40:45.560 when people decide to

00:40:46.700 let racism slide, it

00:40:48.340 costs for the rest of

00:40:50.400 us.

00:40:51.900 Yes, you heard that

00:40:52.800 right from the New York

00:40:53.620 Times.

00:40:54.100 When people decide to

00:40:55.300 let racism slide, it

00:40:57.200 costs for the rest of

00:40:58.680 us, end quote.

00:41:00.320 The article concludes

00:41:01.500 with this.

00:41:01.880 I'll be cynical again

00:41:02.820 tomorrow, but for now, I'm

00:41:03.840 glad that a corporation

00:41:04.700 had the opportunity to

00:41:06.040 think not only of its

00:41:07.060 bottom line, they chose

00:41:08.600 to draw a line instead.

00:41:11.720 Hmm.

00:41:12.560 Well, we know that about

00:41:13.720 ABC.

00:41:15.400 New York Times.

00:41:16.280 Can you tell me where your

00:41:19.100 line is?

00:41:23.000 It's Tuesday, August

00:41:24.440 7th.

00:41:25.660 This is the Glenn Beck

00:41:26.980 program.

00:41:28.400 All right, let's move

00:41:29.540 forward and have a

00:41:30.380 dangerous conversation,

00:41:31.680 shall we?

00:41:33.320 So let's have a

00:41:34.120 conversation and ask

00:41:35.000 questions we're not

00:41:36.160 supposed to ask.

00:41:38.520 Talk to somebody we

00:41:39.780 probably shouldn't talk

00:41:40.960 to.

00:41:41.180 There's a new book

00:41:44.300 out, How Modern

00:41:45.000 Feminism Lost Touch

00:41:46.580 with Science, Love,

00:41:47.600 and Common Sense.

00:41:48.460 It's called Sex

00:41:49.020 Matters, and it's

00:41:50.420 Mona Sharon, New

00:41:52.640 York Times best-selling

00:41:54.000 author, and I would

00:41:56.300 imagine somebody that

00:41:57.440 would easily fit Mona

00:41:58.800 into the intellectual

00:41:59.740 dark web.

00:42:02.580 I would have to plead

00:42:03.760 guilty to that.

00:42:04.820 Okay, good, good.

00:42:06.380 Good.

00:42:06.920 All right, so let's

00:42:07.500 have that conversation

00:42:08.480 that everybody is

00:42:11.160 saying that we

00:42:12.860 shouldn't have for

00:42:13.760 one reason or

00:42:14.500 another.

00:42:15.500 You know, so much

00:42:17.000 of what is wrong in

00:42:18.500 America today involves

00:42:20.360 the breakdown of

00:42:22.440 understanding between

00:42:24.560 men and women and

00:42:25.980 basic understandings

00:42:27.980 about human sexuality

00:42:29.440 and about family life

00:42:31.140 and about those just

00:42:32.560 basic things, that

00:42:34.360 there are differences

00:42:35.040 between men and

00:42:35.820 women, that they are

00:42:36.640 complementary.

00:42:37.980 It doesn't mean one

00:42:38.780 is inferior and one

00:42:40.040 is superior.

00:42:41.160 that a thriving

00:42:44.860 society is not

00:42:46.460 possible without

00:42:47.600 healthy families at

00:42:49.820 the brute that

00:42:51.680 create solid citizens

00:42:53.360 and happy individuals.

00:42:55.860 And so that's what I

00:42:57.080 set out to do in this

00:42:58.340 book is talk about the

00:42:59.520 ways in which feminism

00:43:00.620 in particular and also

00:43:02.120 feminisms linking with

00:43:04.100 the sexual revolution

00:43:05.080 have undermined our

00:43:07.900 happiness.

00:43:08.760 And, you know, there is

00:43:10.460 data showing that

00:43:11.700 women in particular

00:43:12.900 are, not only are

00:43:15.340 they not more happy

00:43:16.640 because of the

00:43:17.760 advances of feminism

00:43:18.880 over the last 40

00:43:19.920 years, they're less

00:43:21.340 happy.

00:43:22.420 They are less happy

00:43:23.520 now than women were

00:43:24.960 in 1972.

00:43:27.060 Women today are less

00:43:28.140 happy than their

00:43:28.820 mothers were at the

00:43:29.620 same stage of life or

00:43:30.740 even their

00:43:31.420 grandmothers.

00:43:32.640 Now, see, if we

00:43:33.380 weren't having an adult

00:43:34.200 conversation, I could

00:43:35.200 take that line and say,

00:43:36.360 Mona Sharon just

00:43:37.660 said that women

00:43:38.460 should go back to

00:43:39.220 the kitchen and they

00:43:40.240 should, you know, be

00:43:41.180 subservient to their

00:43:42.040 husband and not work.

00:43:43.600 Right.

00:43:44.220 I get that a lot.

00:43:45.360 Right.

00:43:45.820 Which is so simple

00:43:47.140 minded.

00:43:47.780 Right.

00:43:48.280 You know, one can

00:43:49.700 applaud the changes in

00:43:51.740 the economy.

00:43:52.480 And by the way, a lot

00:43:53.220 of the reason that

00:43:54.120 women have more

00:43:55.160 opportunities is because

00:43:56.260 the economy changed

00:43:57.540 and not just the

00:43:58.960 feminist movement,

00:43:59.700 but the economy

00:44:02.020 changed from an

00:44:02.840 industrial economy to

00:44:04.080 a knowledge based

00:44:05.200 economy, which

00:44:05.900 created many more

00:44:06.740 opportunities for

00:44:07.900 women.

00:44:09.720 So that's one thing.

00:44:11.220 But look, I'm not

00:44:12.760 afraid to give

00:44:13.740 feminism credit for

00:44:15.460 certain changes in

00:44:16.520 our society for

00:44:17.420 saying that, you

00:44:17.960 know, old

00:44:18.620 stereotypes about

00:44:19.780 that were limiting

00:44:21.660 needed reform.

00:44:23.580 And that's fine.

00:44:24.620 But I challenge

00:44:26.720 them to admit

00:44:28.660 that they also

00:44:30.480 made some serious

00:44:31.600 mistakes.

00:44:32.860 They signed on to

00:44:34.060 the sexual

00:44:34.540 revolution in a

00:44:35.600 big way.

00:44:36.380 They believed that

00:44:38.280 the sexual

00:44:39.460 revolution was going

00:44:40.280 to be a great

00:44:41.000 thing for women,

00:44:42.040 that if men could

00:44:43.160 be promiscuous,

00:44:44.700 women should too,

00:44:45.680 and that this would

00:44:46.200 be terrific.

00:44:47.460 It would lead to

00:44:48.260 some sort of

00:44:48.900 idyllic future

00:44:51.000 in which marriage

00:44:52.160 would be gone and

00:44:53.240 all rules about

00:44:54.300 sexual behavior

00:44:55.140 would be gone and

00:44:56.240 everybody would be

00:44:57.280 lubricious and

00:44:58.960 sleeping around and

00:45:00.760 it would be

00:45:01.020 wonderful.

00:45:01.620 And it turned out

00:45:02.240 it's not so

00:45:03.000 wonderful and

00:45:03.820 look around.

00:45:05.160 Look at the

00:45:05.780 campus rape problem

00:45:07.280 that we have.

00:45:08.280 Look at the

00:45:08.780 bitterness between

00:45:10.660 men and women and

00:45:11.420 the misunderstanding.

00:45:12.540 So that's one

00:45:13.060 thing.

00:45:13.340 And the other

00:45:13.720 huge mistake they

00:45:14.940 made was defaming

00:45:16.700 and denigrating the

00:45:18.400 family and marriage.

00:45:20.020 So let me go here

00:45:21.860 for a second.

00:45:23.700 You know, talk a

00:45:25.180 little bit about the

00:45:25.820 denigration of the

00:45:26.680 family, but also the

00:45:28.120 denigration of men.

00:45:29.260 men are evil and

00:45:35.120 nobody knows how to

00:45:36.620 be a man anymore.

00:45:38.120 Nobody, I mean, the

00:45:39.640 hell with chivalry.

00:45:41.380 Just being a man is

00:45:43.760 not accepted.

00:45:45.100 There are so few

00:45:46.960 acknowledgements in

00:45:48.560 our culture now that

00:45:50.020 masculinity can be a

00:45:52.060 positive good, right?

00:45:54.080 There's all kinds of

00:45:55.700 talk on college

00:45:56.560 campuses and as you

00:45:57.480 were saying earlier,

00:45:58.180 you know, we're all

00:45:58.820 everything is a

00:45:59.500 college campus now and

00:46:01.400 our whole society is

00:46:02.980 dominated by that

00:46:03.900 style of thinking and

00:46:05.220 what you read and

00:46:06.700 are taught on college

00:46:08.020 campuses is that

00:46:09.180 there's something

00:46:09.700 called toxic

00:46:10.620 masculinity that has

00:46:12.620 to be reformed,

00:46:13.840 drummed out, but

00:46:15.680 you never get, and

00:46:17.580 you're saying men

00:46:18.240 don't know how to

00:46:18.800 behave.

00:46:19.280 Well, young men are

00:46:20.440 never taught anymore

00:46:21.640 what the positive

00:46:22.880 ways are to express

00:46:24.240 their masculinity.

00:46:25.320 I've tried in my

00:46:26.240 newspaper columns to

00:46:27.520 cite examples of

00:46:29.760 when masculinity in

00:46:32.640 its natural state is

00:46:34.140 a wonderful thing that

00:46:35.420 we should be

00:46:35.860 appreciating.

00:46:36.620 Give me an example.

00:46:37.720 So, you know, you

00:46:38.900 remember the terrorist

00:46:41.200 who attacked that

00:46:42.000 train and crap.

00:46:43.200 He came out of the

00:46:44.160 bathroom, he had

00:46:44.940 automatic weapons, and

00:46:46.700 six men, not women,

00:46:48.700 and women have plenty

00:46:49.560 of virtues, but this

00:46:50.580 isn't one of them,

00:46:51.380 okay, most of the

00:46:53.840 time.

00:46:54.000 So, six men jumped

00:46:55.520 up and took him on,

00:46:56.440 even though they

00:46:56.840 were unarmed, and

00:46:58.900 they fought him to a

00:47:00.840 standstill, and they

00:47:01.720 saved God knows how

00:47:03.080 many lives.

00:47:04.940 There was an episode

00:47:06.140 in Aurora, Colorado,

00:47:07.520 where a crazed gunman

00:47:08.880 opened fire on a movie

00:47:10.160 theater.

00:47:11.160 Four young men put

00:47:13.420 their own bodies over

00:47:15.100 their girlfriends to

00:47:16.240 protect them.

00:47:17.120 Three died in the

00:47:18.900 act.

00:47:20.160 One was severely

00:47:21.120 injured.

00:47:22.680 That is the kind of

00:47:24.160 thing that is inherent

00:47:25.940 in masculinity, too.

00:47:28.020 It isn't just,

00:47:28.700 masculinity is not

00:47:29.940 just all about trying

00:47:31.340 to get women in bed,

00:47:32.400 or being aggressive,

00:47:33.340 or being impossible,

00:47:35.720 you know, being a

00:47:36.540 boor.

00:47:37.720 Masculinity has a

00:47:38.720 positive side, and so

00:47:40.060 when you're trying to

00:47:41.220 civilize young men, you

00:47:42.960 can't do it by telling

00:47:44.420 them that they're

00:47:45.140 rotten and horrible

00:47:46.260 and toxic, and that

00:47:48.060 they have to become

00:47:48.940 more like women.

00:47:49.720 You have to say, you

00:47:51.020 have tremendous

00:47:51.940 capacity to be good.

00:47:53.640 You also have the

00:47:54.220 capacity to be evil.

00:47:55.440 So do women.

00:47:56.520 And the job of any

00:47:57.740 good society is to

00:47:58.900 teach them to make

00:47:59.680 the most out of what

00:48:01.440 those masculine

00:48:02.420 virtues are.

00:48:03.600 Look, they do have a

00:48:04.800 lot of energy.

00:48:05.900 They do have a

00:48:06.580 tremendous amount of

00:48:07.440 sexual interest, boys

00:48:08.920 do.

00:48:09.260 I raised three boys.

00:48:11.380 That's part of the

00:48:12.740 male makeup.

00:48:14.140 But what you do is

00:48:15.300 you channel it into

00:48:17.180 telling boys that they

00:48:18.740 are to use their

00:48:19.780 strength for good,

00:48:20.960 that they are to

00:48:21.480 protect the weak and

00:48:22.540 the small, not abuse

00:48:24.260 their strength against

00:48:25.340 the weak and the

00:48:26.020 small.

00:48:27.260 And that's how you

00:48:28.380 make good men.

00:48:29.220 And you know, this

00:48:29.860 isn't rocket science.

00:48:31.740 I mean, societies have

00:48:33.000 been doing this for

00:48:34.460 centuries and

00:48:35.700 millennia.

00:48:36.820 Well, I would say

00:48:37.960 that the Judeo-Christian

00:48:40.680 Western world has been

00:48:42.840 trying to do this for a

00:48:44.260 long time, and we're

00:48:45.120 rejecting all of that,

00:48:47.160 all of it.

00:48:47.580 That's right.

00:48:48.300 That is absolutely

00:48:49.280 right.

00:48:49.740 And, you know, the

00:48:52.280 model, when you think

00:48:54.340 about the word

00:48:54.900 gentleman, gentle man,

00:48:58.120 right, you want to

00:48:59.140 teach men to be more

00:49:01.140 gentle than their

00:49:02.240 natures would

00:49:03.140 necessarily dictate.

00:49:04.900 The feminists think

00:49:05.840 they've discovered this,

00:49:07.060 except that they call it

00:49:08.980 toxic masculinity.

00:49:10.280 I think that's the

00:49:11.120 wrong way to say it.

00:49:13.020 You know, I think they

00:49:14.940 just make more enemies

00:49:16.020 and get people's

00:49:17.840 backs up.

00:49:18.920 What they should be

00:49:19.640 saying is that men and

00:49:20.580 women together, when

00:49:21.640 they marry, understand

00:49:23.340 the basic nature of men

00:49:25.000 and women and boys and

00:49:26.340 girls, and they work

00:49:27.500 with that.

00:49:28.140 By the way, little

00:49:29.180 girls have a lot of

00:49:30.400 traits that need to be

00:49:31.260 socialized away also to

00:49:32.800 the degree that we can.

00:49:34.220 Little girls, I don't

00:49:35.120 know if you have

00:49:35.620 children.

00:49:36.260 I have four.

00:49:37.420 Three little girls and

00:49:38.300 one boy.

00:49:39.160 All right.

00:49:39.600 Well, little girls can

00:49:41.040 use their words in an

00:49:42.480 incredibly cruel way.

00:49:44.640 No.

00:49:45.800 No, it's almost like

00:49:46.840 you've had a teenager.

00:49:50.200 I had three boys, but I

00:49:52.060 was a little girl, so I

00:49:53.600 can tell you that I know

00:49:55.020 where I speak.

00:49:56.580 And so girls have to be

00:49:58.160 taught also to curb those

00:50:00.500 aggressive aspects of their

00:50:02.360 own natures that they tend

00:50:03.880 to express more through

00:50:05.080 cutting gossip and social

00:50:07.280 cruelty rather than

00:50:10.840 the physical kind in

00:50:13.760 general.

00:50:14.960 But, you know, we've

00:50:16.060 gotten so...

00:50:17.020 The feminists injected

00:50:18.640 into our cultural

00:50:20.460 bloodstream this notion

00:50:22.720 of the war between the

00:50:24.580 sexes, that this is all

00:50:25.960 about a fight between men

00:50:27.580 and women.

00:50:28.660 And really, it isn't.

00:50:29.980 It has to be, in order to

00:50:31.340 create good people, men and

00:50:32.800 women have to cooperate,

00:50:33.760 and they have to be

00:50:35.060 realistic about the way

00:50:37.020 nature made us.

00:50:38.740 You know, one of the

00:50:39.320 things that I say to

00:50:40.300 young people when I speak

00:50:41.400 to them is, if you

00:50:43.180 accept as a given that

00:50:46.220 there are certain basic

00:50:47.540 tendencies on the part of

00:50:49.300 men and women, it helps

00:50:51.760 you to not take it so

00:50:52.940 personally when your

00:50:54.260 husband or your boyfriend,

00:50:55.900 for example, is just not

00:50:57.260 into talking about

00:50:58.420 feelings for three hours.

00:51:00.380 You know, you're not

00:51:01.900 going to be caught up

00:51:03.760 unawares.

00:51:04.680 You're going to realize

00:51:05.420 that that's just kind of

00:51:06.540 the way men are, and you

00:51:07.400 have to limit your

00:51:08.000 expectations for just quite

00:51:09.800 how much they can talk

00:51:10.780 about their feelings.

00:51:11.540 That's why you have

00:51:12.140 girlfriends and sisters and

00:51:13.820 so forth.

00:51:14.380 Okay, so Mona, I have to

00:51:15.860 take a break, but I would

00:51:16.920 like to ask you to hold on

00:51:17.820 because I want to ask you

00:51:18.540 one question about gender.

00:51:20.820 You have done your work

00:51:22.880 on that, and, you know,

00:51:24.320 we have like 172 genders

00:51:26.140 now.

00:51:27.160 Yeah.

00:51:27.400 And I would just like your

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00:51:36.600 author of the new book,

00:51:37.600 Sex Matters, How Modern

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00:52:41.040 Mona Sharon is with us, I

00:52:44.580 think a member of the

00:52:47.540 intellectual dark web, I

00:52:48.800 think.

00:52:49.620 I would put her in there.

00:52:51.660 She is a woman who is

00:52:53.420 unafraid of doing the

00:52:55.200 research and then coming

00:52:56.260 back with the scientific

00:52:58.440 answer and also the

00:53:00.480 answer that has proven

00:53:01.780 out to be true throughout

00:53:03.280 history.

00:53:04.760 I want to talk to you a

00:53:05.720 little bit about the, you

00:53:08.120 know, the hundred and I

00:53:11.700 don't even know how many

00:53:12.660 genders there are now.

00:53:14.800 And it is, it's really, to

00:53:16.940 me, it's ridiculous.

00:53:19.040 Talk me out of that?

00:53:20.960 I mean.

00:53:22.520 You came to the wrong

00:53:23.700 place.

00:53:23.980 I thought I did.

00:53:25.880 Yeah.

00:53:26.480 So, you know, I, when you

00:53:28.460 look around at our society

00:53:30.400 and you see parents who, when

00:53:33.640 they have a newborn, they

00:53:34.960 refuse to say whether it's a

00:53:36.560 boy or a girl, because they

00:53:38.140 don't want to impose on the

00:53:39.720 child a gender.

00:53:41.440 They say the child will decide

00:53:43.300 when it's older.

00:53:45.320 Look, George Orwell once said

00:53:47.520 that the first duty of

00:53:49.340 intelligent men is the

00:53:50.800 restatement of the obvious.

00:53:52.420 And I think that applies

00:53:54.480 very much to our time when

00:53:55.840 we are so nuts on the

00:53:57.580 subject of gender.

00:53:58.640 Now, how did this all

00:53:59.580 begin?

00:54:00.360 It began because of the

00:54:02.340 feminists, the second wave

00:54:03.780 feminists, not the

00:54:04.800 suffragists, they were

00:54:05.660 sane, but the second wave

00:54:07.320 feminists decided that there

00:54:08.760 were no differences between

00:54:10.080 men and women that were not

00:54:11.360 just obvious anatomical

00:54:12.940 differences.

00:54:13.840 And they went a good way

00:54:15.980 toward trying to claim, for

00:54:17.800 example, when a little, there

00:54:19.320 was a botched circumcision,

00:54:20.740 horrible story, but there

00:54:21.720 was a botched circumcision of

00:54:23.140 a little boy whose penis was

00:54:24.640 removed.

00:54:25.660 And this was in the 70s.

00:54:27.100 And they said, the feminists

00:54:28.440 all argued, yes, you know,

00:54:29.680 raise him as a girl, you'll

00:54:30.940 never know, he'll never know,

00:54:32.360 and so on.

00:54:32.880 And it was a terrible tragedy.

00:54:34.580 And it's a kind of hubris where

00:54:36.480 they thought they could refuse

00:54:39.560 to acknowledge nature, refuse to

00:54:41.980 acknowledge reality, and

00:54:43.400 reshape it.

00:54:44.260 Hang on just a second.

00:54:47.840 I'm thrilled that you know

00:54:49.400 this story.

00:54:50.220 Of course you do.

00:54:51.300 But most people don't.

00:54:53.340 This was a botched

00:54:54.800 circumcision.

00:54:55.940 He lost his penis.

00:54:58.540 He was raised as a child.

00:55:00.160 He was put through therapy of

00:55:02.400 one of the guys who was still

00:55:04.740 beloved as a guy who did

00:55:06.920 gender studies.

00:55:08.100 Dr. John Money, who invented

00:55:09.920 the term gender identity.

00:55:12.060 Yeah, and he was having the

00:55:14.740 two twins mount each other as

00:55:17.900 kids.

00:55:18.520 They ended up, the one that

00:55:21.080 was treated as a girl, ended

00:55:22.980 up killing himself just

00:55:24.240 recently in the last few

00:55:25.480 years.

00:55:26.360 That is true.

00:55:27.060 It is a terrible tragedy.

00:55:28.780 It is a monstrous story.

00:55:31.360 And that's where this gender

00:55:32.920 identity stuff comes from.

00:55:35.400 And it absolutely does.

00:55:36.720 And I will tell you that in my

00:55:38.440 book, Sex Matters, I go back

00:55:40.440 and quote the New York Times

00:55:42.160 that did this sort of very

00:55:44.200 lavish coverage of the, that

00:55:47.340 so-called girls coming out at a

00:55:49.420 scientific conference when she

00:55:50.660 was about eight years old.

00:55:52.400 And the New York Times said, you

00:55:54.060 see that she's doing great as a

00:55:55.880 little girl, Brenda, they called

00:55:57.380 her, him.

00:55:58.960 And they said, this proves that

00:56:00.800 the feminists were right, that

00:56:02.320 gender is a social construct.

00:56:04.320 And so, you know, that is the

00:56:07.120 root of our current difficulty

00:56:09.080 is that the feminists insisted

00:56:10.380 on this.

00:56:10.800 But here's the twist, okay?

00:56:12.460 So the feminists said in the

00:56:13.860 1970s, and John Money, I put him

00:56:16.060 in that category.

00:56:16.880 Wait, wait, wait.

00:56:17.460 I don't want to cut you off.

00:56:18.420 I don't want to cut you off.

00:56:19.200 We have 30 seconds left.

00:56:20.860 Listen, before you start that

00:56:22.080 story, let's take a break and

00:56:23.480 then we'll come back and join and

00:56:26.800 get the rest of the story.

00:56:27.720 If you do not know, you don't

00:56:29.840 know the story of gender

00:56:32.640 identity and its history, holy

00:56:34.620 cow, are you in for a wild

00:56:36.040 ride?

00:56:37.320 And Mona will continue on that

00:56:39.100 coming up in just a second.

00:56:40.160 Sex Matters is the name of her

00:56:41.840 book, How Modern Feminism Lost

00:56:43.860 Touch with Science, Love, and

00:56:45.800 Common Sense.

00:56:52.520 You're listening to the Glenn

00:56:53.680 Beck Program.

00:56:54.700 We're with Mona Sharon, and she

00:56:57.120 is the author of the new book,

00:56:59.340 Sex Matters, and we were just

00:57:00.820 in the midst of her telling us

00:57:02.680 about gender roles and what

00:57:07.380 gender means, and she was

00:57:09.700 telling the story of a doctor

00:57:11.880 who I think is sick, really,

00:57:14.420 truly disturbed, and he's the

00:57:18.520 guy who started this whole

00:57:20.640 gender identity nonsense, and it

00:57:23.280 started because of a botched

00:57:24.760 surgery, not by him, but by

00:57:26.240 somebody else, botched surgery

00:57:28.140 of circumcision, where the boy's

00:57:29.960 penis was cut off, and he was a

00:57:31.560 twin, twin boys.

00:57:33.620 So this doctor came in and said,

00:57:35.140 raise him as a girl, because, you

00:57:37.120 know, gender is just, you know,

00:57:38.740 it's just, it's all, you know,

00:57:41.240 upbringing.

00:57:41.880 So just treat him like a girl, and

00:57:43.420 he'll become a girl.

00:57:44.880 And we just got to the point of the

00:57:46.040 story where he, who everyone tried

00:57:50.100 to force into a she, was, was, had a

00:57:54.560 coming out, and the New York Times

00:57:56.140 was praising it and saying, see, the

00:57:57.600 feminists are right.

00:57:58.920 Back to you, Mona.

00:58:00.780 Yeah, so they said, you see, the

00:58:02.460 feminists are right, it's all about

00:58:03.920 how you raise children, and this

00:58:06.100 little girl is developing perfectly

00:58:08.380 normally.

00:58:09.000 Well, that was a lie, not necessarily

00:58:11.420 the New York Times was lying, but it

00:58:13.060 turned out that that was the story

00:58:14.260 they were given.

00:58:14.840 Not true.

00:58:15.800 This little boy was constantly

00:58:17.120 tearing off the dresses that he was

00:58:19.040 put in.

00:58:19.580 He wanted to urinate standing up,

00:58:21.420 even though his penis was gone.

00:58:23.260 You know, there were all of these

00:58:24.540 problems that he was having.

00:58:26.400 Eventually, he became suicidal, and

00:58:29.080 his parents revealed to him when he

00:58:30.700 was a teenager what had happened.

00:58:33.140 And then he insisted on living as a

00:58:34.780 man.

00:58:35.240 He eventually married, but the initial

00:58:37.280 trauma was so bad.

00:58:39.820 And by the way, he went through many,

00:58:41.460 many surgeries in both directions.

00:58:43.580 Awful story.

00:58:44.780 But anyway, he did eventually commit

00:58:46.800 suicide, the accumulated trauma.

00:58:49.980 Dr. John Money, the one who said

00:58:51.760 that sexuality was completely

00:58:54.000 mutable, is now the father of the

00:58:56.480 term gender identity.

00:58:59.180 You see, what happened was that these

00:59:01.120 feminists of the 1970s claimed there

00:59:03.420 were no differences between the sexes,

00:59:05.580 but science caught up with them.

00:59:08.040 And, for example, I quote Diane Halpern,

00:59:10.740 who is the former president of the

00:59:12.560 American Psychological Association,

00:59:14.200 who wrote a book about sex differences

00:59:16.060 in the brain, different cognitive

00:59:17.760 abilities.

00:59:18.920 Sorry, Glenn, are you sitting down?

00:59:20.600 Yeah.

00:59:21.440 Okay.

00:59:22.280 Men are better at math than women.

00:59:24.860 Not in my house.

00:59:25.840 I mean, well, you know, there are going

00:59:28.500 to be individual variations, but at the

00:59:30.240 very high end, there are men over,

00:59:32.840 men outnumber women at the high end of

00:59:35.480 math and science ability by about 13 to

00:59:37.880 one.

00:59:38.300 Doesn't mean there are no women in that

00:59:39.780 category, but they're a minority.

00:59:41.740 No, no, wait a minute.

00:59:42.540 That can't be because Google is having a

00:59:45.020 hard time getting...

00:59:46.280 Exactly.

00:59:47.400 See, my book is relevant to everything

00:59:49.080 that's going on right now.

00:59:52.920 But men also outnumber women, by the

00:59:55.660 way, at the lower end of the spectrum.

00:59:57.160 They have more mental retardation.

00:59:58.940 They have more ADHD.

01:00:00.340 They have more problems.

01:00:01.420 You know, so that's the way nature did

01:00:03.860 things.

01:00:05.340 But so nature caught...

01:00:06.780 So science caught up.

01:00:08.380 Science figured out, and Diane Halpern,

01:00:10.120 this former head of the APA, said,

01:00:12.420 you know, I wasn't prepared.

01:00:14.340 I thought that all these differences

01:00:15.740 were cultural until I reviewed the

01:00:17.500 literature, and then I realized it's

01:00:19.060 just not true.

01:00:19.760 There are biological differences in

01:00:21.540 thinking.

01:00:22.860 And so because the science caught up

01:00:25.240 with them, because it taught us all

01:00:26.860 about the role of hormones and so on

01:00:28.580 and so forth, and there have been

01:00:30.100 studies on infants, you know, just a

01:00:32.280 few days old, and they can see

01:00:33.820 differences in the way baby girls

01:00:35.420 and baby boys respond to stimuli and

01:00:37.520 all kinds of evidence.

01:00:38.840 Okay, so what did they do?

01:00:40.580 Did they say, okay, I guess we were

01:00:42.220 wrong?

01:00:43.260 It turns out there really are

01:00:44.760 differences that are interesting and

01:00:46.200 important between men and women?

01:00:47.680 Nope.

01:00:48.400 They said there's this thing called

01:00:50.380 gender identity, and that's the

01:00:52.840 thing that is completely beautiful.

01:00:54.640 That's the thing that can change and

01:00:56.220 is totally subjective.

01:00:58.220 And so when a child is born, they're

01:00:59.900 now telling us, you don't know whether

01:01:01.760 their gender identity, their subjective

01:01:05.240 feelings about themselves are male or

01:01:07.100 female or some other gender, which, you

01:01:09.780 know, they've invented.

01:01:11.320 And so that's how they have retreated

01:01:14.060 into this realm of pure subjectivity.

01:01:17.660 And I, you know, am pretty tough in the

01:01:20.060 book on the people.

01:01:21.120 Look, I don't care what adults do.

01:01:22.620 If adults want to change their bodies

01:01:24.380 and go through surgeries and dress like

01:01:26.260 the other sex, that's totally fine.

01:01:28.100 It's a free country.

01:01:29.280 But what is happening with children is

01:01:31.880 really, really dangerous and tragic.

01:01:35.900 It is tragic.

01:01:37.100 Children go through stages.

01:01:39.040 I went through a stage when I was a

01:01:41.160 little girl.

01:01:41.760 I was a tomboy.

01:01:42.940 I like to play with boys' trucks, and I

01:01:44.660 like to dress like a boy and climb

01:01:46.280 trees.

01:01:47.400 God forbid I would be a little boy

01:01:49.520 today because they might, my parents

01:01:52.180 might be told, look, you know, by

01:01:53.560 experts, you need to ratify.

01:01:55.760 Oh, I asked to be called Timmy.

01:01:58.200 I asked the kids to call me Timmy.

01:01:59.840 I thought that was great.

01:02:01.540 Imagine.

01:02:02.360 I mean, if that were true today, my

01:02:04.580 parents would probably be told that

01:02:06.200 they had to ratify my sexual, my gender

01:02:08.940 identity.

01:02:10.380 Mona, you are, you, you don't even know

01:02:13.260 how oppressed you are.

01:02:14.780 You were oppressed by your parents, and

01:02:16.840 now you're in denial.

01:02:18.460 I mean, that's exactly right.

01:02:20.860 I'm in denial, and I've had three

01:02:22.400 children.

01:02:23.080 Yeah.

01:02:24.220 Mona, other than the fundamental right to

01:02:27.620 choose your gender when you're seven

01:02:29.200 years old, we are told as we're going

01:02:31.500 into, you know, people are talking

01:02:32.440 about the Supreme Court, it's been in

01:02:33.480 the news, we're told that the ultimate

01:02:35.100 fundamental female right is the right

01:02:38.580 to abortion.

01:02:39.800 You write in the book, the elevation of

01:02:41.340 abortion as a key feminist principle

01:02:43.240 reveals the moral bankruptcy of the

01:02:45.280 feminist movement.

01:02:46.340 It has severed the ageless bond between

01:02:48.020 mother and child, hardening women

01:02:49.560 against their own weak and utterly

01:02:51.100 defenseless unborn children.

01:02:53.140 The feminist embrace of abortion is

01:02:55.040 also a rejection of femininity itself.

01:02:57.640 That's got to be winning you a lot of

01:02:59.720 friends.

01:03:00.880 Well, it's the truth.

01:03:03.100 The feminists did not have to become

01:03:05.740 cheerleaders for abortion.

01:03:08.980 The earliest feminists, the suffragettes,

01:03:11.420 who I also quote in the book, were

01:03:12.860 opponents of abortion.

01:03:14.060 They saw abortion as another kind of

01:03:15.980 oppression of women by men.

01:03:17.520 And the fact is, one would have thought

01:03:21.540 that one of the nicest aspects of human

01:03:24.400 nature is the love between parents and

01:03:27.840 children, fathers and children, mothers

01:03:30.360 and children.

01:03:31.860 This is one of the basics of human life

01:03:34.320 that we like to see in animals.

01:03:37.080 You know, we see a mother, you know,

01:03:38.960 taking good care of her cubs, a mother

01:03:41.080 bear, and we say, isn't that great?

01:03:43.140 It's moving, it's touching.

01:03:44.340 And yet, when it comes to us, we say

01:03:47.480 that it's a human right to kill our

01:03:49.360 unborn children.

01:03:52.020 It's cruel, it's barbaric.

01:03:54.720 I think the day will come when we will

01:03:56.660 look back on this with shame.

01:03:59.060 And feminists have a lot to answer for

01:04:00.940 on this.

01:04:01.400 They made it their marquee issue.

01:04:04.800 Pona, let me ask you, I have been doing

01:04:08.780 in the last year a lot of research on the

01:04:11.040 postmodernist movement.

01:04:12.080 And I don't think we are anymore in the

01:04:14.600 progressive era.

01:04:15.860 I think we have, we're now at that

01:04:17.820 crossroads, we're at the threshold to

01:04:20.340 where we've entered into the postmodern

01:04:22.180 era, where all of that teaching and all

01:04:24.840 of that nonsense that there is no truth

01:04:27.380 and everything else is starting to take

01:04:28.780 root.

01:04:29.360 And people don't know what to do.

01:04:31.800 They don't, they don't want to go back,

01:04:33.540 but they also don't want to go forward

01:04:36.400 because they see this is insane.

01:04:39.040 How much of, how much of a role do you

01:04:42.020 think postmodernist theory is playing on

01:04:44.640 what's happening today?

01:04:46.300 Oh, I definitely think that you're, you're

01:04:48.320 onto something there that we are in the

01:04:50.080 postmodernist moment and it's affecting both

01:04:53.540 the left and the right now.

01:04:54.920 Yeah, it is.

01:04:55.880 Where, you know, it's, the truth is, is

01:04:58.280 utterly subjective.

01:04:59.660 Truth is not an objective thing that you

01:05:01.500 can, you can prove and you can rely on.

01:05:04.780 Everybody has their truth.

01:05:06.740 You know, Oprah used to say that, you

01:05:08.300 know, that people were speaking their

01:05:09.940 truth.

01:05:10.480 There's no your truth and my truth.

01:05:12.300 There's only the truth.

01:05:13.660 And admittedly, we have to be modest about

01:05:16.260 our understanding and about our ability to

01:05:18.740 grasp the truth.

01:05:19.680 That's one of the lessons that I've learned

01:05:21.220 over a long career is that, you know,

01:05:23.000 arrogance is the enemy of understanding

01:05:25.120 and you have to be open to the possibility

01:05:27.480 that the other side has something to teach

01:05:29.660 you and that you may not have the truth as

01:05:32.820 firmly in your grasp as you think.

01:05:35.240 But you cannot give up on the idea that

01:05:37.380 there is reality, that there is objective

01:05:39.480 truth.

01:05:40.100 You know, water will freeze at 32 degrees

01:05:42.260 Fahrenheit, whether I believe in it or not.

01:05:46.580 It is good to talk to somebody who's

01:05:49.220 unafraid to, are you afraid ever to say

01:05:51.100 things?

01:05:52.040 No.

01:05:52.800 I, well.

01:05:53.800 Emmanuel, Emmanuel Kant said one of my

01:05:55.880 favorite quotes.

01:05:56.780 And I remember reading into the 90s and

01:06:00.040 thinking, I can't imagine a world like

01:06:01.800 that, but I, we're living in it now.

01:06:03.660 He said, there are many things that I

01:06:05.320 believe that I shall never say, but I

01:06:06.920 shall never say the things that I do not

01:06:08.700 believe.

01:06:10.800 Well, that's a beautiful quote.

01:06:12.540 That's right.

01:06:13.860 And, but there are so many people now who

01:06:16.220 say things they don't believe all the

01:06:18.140 time and you know it and you, you watch

01:06:21.120 their lips moving and you think, I know,

01:06:23.520 you know, that's not true.

01:06:26.780 Mona, thank you.

01:06:27.780 Thank you so much.

01:06:29.160 Thank you, Glenn.

01:06:30.740 It was a real pleasure.

01:06:31.720 You bet.

01:06:32.160 The name of the book is Sex Matters.

01:06:34.360 Mona Sharon, she is, she is somebody that

01:06:37.520 I put into the, you know, the intellectual

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01:06:45.260 an agenda, is not playing for a team, just

01:06:49.780 to believe something, has used the science

01:06:52.480 to back it up and is immovable.

01:06:54.740 The name of the book again is Sex

01:06:57.120 Matters.

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01:08:38.220 If you listen to Malcolm Gladwell's

01:08:40.300 podcast, it's really good.

01:08:43.720 It's really good.

01:08:44.280 Revisionist history, especially this

01:08:45.720 last season.

01:08:47.460 I think, I think I told you to listen to

01:08:49.260 one about Brian Williams.

01:08:50.940 Yeah.

01:08:51.040 And usually when you suggest things, I

01:08:52.120 don't listen, but that one was really a

01:08:53.940 good suggestion.

01:08:56.320 It was fascinating because it was sort of

01:08:58.020 a revisiting of the Brian Williams

01:08:59.740 scandal where if you remember correctly,

01:09:02.620 Brian, there's a liar.

01:09:04.200 He's a liar and he, because he said he

01:09:06.300 was shot at and his helicopter was hit

01:09:08.860 over Iraq, I believe in 2003-ish.

01:09:13.000 And, you know, over time he started off

01:09:14.780 telling the story accurately and it sort

01:09:16.440 of meshed into this thing where he was

01:09:18.200 taking credit for this heroic act.

01:09:19.860 He told the story on Letterman and in the

01:09:22.300 end lost his job and his credibility over

01:09:24.560 it.

01:09:25.280 And Gladwell's case, and it's backed up

01:09:27.320 by a lot of science, which was pretty

01:09:30.020 interesting, is that we as humans believe

01:09:34.320 our memories are perfect video captures

01:09:37.460 of a moment.

01:09:39.320 And science and study after study after

01:09:41.580 study shows this, that it's not, that we

01:09:44.360 actually screw these things up all the

01:09:46.140 time.

01:09:46.500 And the way they, quickly, they use these

01:09:48.400 things called flashbulb moments.

01:09:49.900 So like 9-11 is a flashbulb moment.

01:09:51.580 We all remember where we were on 9-11.

01:09:53.440 And scientists, because, you know, they're

01:09:55.080 nerds and they're using us for their own

01:09:56.440 purposes, every time one of these things

01:09:58.340 happen, they do a study called a flashbulb

01:10:00.540 moment study.

01:10:01.480 And they'll go and interview all these

01:10:03.400 people about what they were doing at that

01:10:05.160 moment.

01:10:05.540 So right after 9-11, and there's many

01:10:07.360 examples of this, they go and they talk

01:10:08.980 to people and they say, what were you

01:10:10.620 doing at this moment?

01:10:11.200 And they have them write it down in their

01:10:12.720 own handwriting, their exact memories of

01:10:14.480 what they were doing.

01:10:15.360 Then they go back to them five and ten

01:10:17.140 years later and say, what were you doing

01:10:18.540 on 9-11 without showing them the piece

01:10:20.520 of paper?

01:10:21.380 They recount their memories and then they

01:10:23.600 compare them to what they wrote down.

01:10:25.540 And they're in different places.

01:10:26.780 They were on the phone instead of in person.

01:10:28.340 And people are saying...

01:10:28.980 All sorts of major differences.

01:10:29.840 And people will say, I don't know why I

01:10:32.580 wrote that 10 years ago, because that's

01:10:33.900 not true.

01:10:34.580 I don't know why I would lie.

01:10:36.100 And the researchers are like, okay, so

01:10:37.980 you thought you lied at that point?

01:10:39.620 I must have, because I was not there.

01:10:42.040 Yeah.

01:10:42.380 And they came up with, the number was 60%

01:10:45.100 of the details of the memories were

01:10:48.240 misremembered in the future.

01:10:50.640 Isn't that crazy?

01:10:51.060 People actually, over time, sort of

01:10:53.600 build these things, these stories in

01:10:56.560 their head, and they start to believe

01:10:58.440 them.

01:10:59.280 It's not necessarily a lie because they

01:11:03.000 are trying to better their situation.

01:11:05.800 It is a mistelling of the truth because

01:11:08.200 our memory screws with us over a long

01:11:10.380 period of time.

01:11:10.940 The reason why I bring this up is because

01:11:12.080 of what Mona said.

01:11:13.540 And it is really one of the underlying

01:11:16.460 principles of my book that I think, you

01:11:20.680 know, will not be necessarily understood

01:11:23.120 in just a quick read.

01:11:27.160 And that is exactly what she said.

01:11:30.160 Arrogance.

01:11:31.080 Arrogance leads us to believe that we are

01:11:35.280 right and everything we believe is right.

01:11:37.840 I believe in the same stuff I've always

01:11:40.400 believed.

01:11:41.180 I believe that the Bill of Rights, the

01:11:43.960 Constitution in America is good.

01:11:47.320 But by by focusing on that, you stop

01:11:52.560 listening to what other people are

01:11:54.340 saying and because they have nothing to

01:11:56.880 teach you, they're just wrong.

01:11:58.360 And if you start to listen to them, you

01:12:01.760 can start to say, oh, oh, wait, I see

01:12:04.880 what you're saying here.

01:12:06.160 OK, you're focused on this.

01:12:08.460 I got OK.

01:12:09.180 You're right about that.

01:12:10.880 You're right.

01:12:12.100 However, come with me.

01:12:13.620 But because they're not listening to you,

01:12:16.220 you're not listening to them.

01:12:17.300 Nobody says, oh, OK, wait, wait, wait, wait,

01:12:19.560 wait, wait, wait.

01:12:20.460 Yes, you're right about that.

01:12:22.080 How many times have you done that in real

01:12:23.320 life where you have to get through an

01:12:25.380 argument and you're like, oh, OK, wait, wait,

01:12:27.540 wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:12:28.960 OK, yes, you're right about that.

01:12:30.840 But that's not what I'm talking about.

01:12:33.180 That's not happening in our society because

01:12:35.460 everyone's treating each other like an enemy.

01:12:37.640 Everyone says you're lying.

01:12:39.880 Here's a case of Brian Williams, who

01:12:42.300 everybody said he was lying, where science

01:12:44.660 is showing, no, no, no, even your memory

01:12:46.640 is 60 percent wrong.

01:12:50.700 That's pretty remarkable.

01:12:54.160 Humility.

01:12:55.380 Humility is the key to what we're facing.

01:12:58.600 You know, look at look.

01:12:59.560 Just look at my tweets today.

01:13:00.740 I defended.

01:13:05.120 No, I did not.

01:13:06.520 How can I phrase this so it's most accurate?

01:13:09.660 I believe we need to know exactly what

01:13:13.060 Alex Jones did verbatim from these

01:13:16.540 companies to get kicked off of LinkedIn

01:13:19.440 and Pinterest.

01:13:21.760 What are they?

01:13:22.940 So we all know that the rules are this

01:13:25.660 and we don't violate them.

01:13:28.340 That's what I'm stating online.

01:13:30.160 You should see the hate mongering on all

01:13:34.100 sides in response to that.

01:13:36.760 Glenn Beck.

01:13:38.420 Mercury.

01:13:42.760 Glenn Beck.

01:13:44.640 It's Tuesday, August 7th.

01:13:47.080 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:13:49.240 Dinesh D'Souza is a guy that I have

01:13:53.140 watched and respected for years.

01:13:55.200 And what was the name of your first book,

01:13:56.440 Dinesh?

01:13:57.360 Well, my original book was Illiberal

01:13:59.460 Education.

01:14:00.100 It was the book on political correctness.

01:14:02.120 And I didn't invent the term,

01:14:03.960 but that book popularized that phrase.

01:14:07.720 1991.

01:14:08.820 Yeah, you've been.

01:14:09.820 I found you in probably the mid-90s.

01:14:12.200 And I have followed you since.

01:14:15.100 And you have become now a pretty good

01:14:17.400 filmmaker.

01:14:18.600 You have a new movie out.

01:14:20.280 And this one is called, I'm sorry.

01:14:21.500 What is it called?

01:14:22.060 Death of a Nation.

01:14:22.720 Death of a Nation.

01:14:23.300 I saw it.

01:14:25.380 I'm going to be just straight up with you.

01:14:27.740 I saw the trailer.

01:14:29.580 And I saw that it was, even the poster is

01:14:33.120 half Lincoln's face and half Trump's face.

01:14:35.620 And I thought to myself, Dinesh, good God, man.

01:14:39.260 Good God.

01:14:40.920 However, I watched it because I know your

01:14:43.240 movies and I know your intellect.

01:14:45.240 There's about seven minutes.

01:14:47.220 And it's at the beginning, about three,

01:14:49.240 and maybe at the end, about three,

01:14:50.660 that if I brought somebody who was,

01:14:52.600 you know, if I brought Jake Tapper to it,

01:14:55.320 you know, or anybody who was very anti-Trump,

01:14:58.520 their skin would crawl.

01:14:59.420 Because they wouldn't listen to what the

01:15:01.920 message was.

01:15:02.800 They would just see the comparison to the

01:15:05.360 two.

01:15:05.760 And you're not comparing the two.

01:15:07.880 You're comparing the time that the two are

01:15:10.760 entering in.

01:15:12.060 Exactly.

01:15:12.740 Exactly.

01:15:13.540 You know, as a man, Lincoln was brooding,

01:15:17.480 melancholy, philosophical.

01:15:19.860 I mean, this is not Trump.

01:15:21.880 We know that.

01:15:23.140 And so they're actually opposite in

01:15:25.740 personality and temperament.

01:15:27.280 But in situations, there's an eerie

01:15:31.820 similarity.

01:15:32.800 And I think this is very important because

01:15:34.140 particularly for people on the right side

01:15:36.020 of the aisle, it is natural to compare

01:15:38.520 Trump to the Reagan era.

01:15:40.560 And it's Trump like Reagan.

01:15:42.440 And part of what I want to say is that

01:15:44.200 we're not living in the Reagan era.

01:15:45.780 And so a man like Reagan today, and I'm

01:15:48.240 a young Reaganite.

01:15:49.000 I became a conservative in the Reagan era.

01:15:51.080 But I think Reagan would be disheartened

01:15:53.020 by our time, the incivility, the sheer

01:15:55.020 savagery of it, the intolerance,

01:15:57.280 of it.

01:15:57.900 He'd be a fish out of water.

01:15:59.460 The water is just today roiled and ugly.

01:16:03.020 But the man who would understand right

01:16:05.040 away what's going on if he lived today

01:16:06.720 would be Lincoln.

01:16:07.880 Why?

01:16:08.400 Because the water in Lincoln's time was

01:16:10.280 even more roiled.

01:16:11.840 I mean, think about it.

01:16:12.520 In 1860, an outsider, a Republican,

01:16:15.820 comes in.

01:16:16.820 He wins a very narrow election in a

01:16:19.000 three-man race.

01:16:20.080 He was expected to lose.

01:16:21.420 But the Democrats had two candidates in

01:16:23.420 the race.

01:16:24.060 They split the vote.

01:16:25.040 And the moment he got elected, all

01:16:27.020 hell broke loose.

01:16:28.320 I mean, they were, and this wasn't just

01:16:29.720 in the South.

01:16:30.340 The Northern Democrats, Northern

01:16:32.040 Democratic newspapers were openly

01:16:33.440 calling to plunge the dagger into

01:16:35.200 Lincoln.

01:16:36.000 Southern Democrats showed that they

01:16:37.340 were so unwilling to live with the

01:16:38.940 election that they were willing to

01:16:40.580 break up the country.

01:16:42.140 And so that is the kind of toxic

01:16:44.860 atmosphere we're living in now.

01:16:46.460 And that was the purpose for,

01:16:48.000 admittedly provocatively,

01:16:49.000 morphing the two heads to say,

01:16:51.460 look, let's think with a little

01:16:53.200 larger compass than just the 1980s.

01:16:55.340 So you go into, you know, you hit

01:16:58.480 that at the very beginning.

01:16:59.440 And then you say, you know, let's

01:17:03.020 let's look back at the situation.

01:17:04.580 Let's look who is fighting for

01:17:06.980 freedom, who is not fighting for

01:17:08.460 freedom historically.

01:17:09.840 And you make great case.

01:17:11.580 We can get into that here in a

01:17:12.680 second.

01:17:12.860 But I think the most powerful point

01:17:15.140 in the in the movie is when you

01:17:19.760 said, well, let's go talk to Mr.

01:17:22.720 Spencer.

01:17:23.720 Let's go talk to the the the icon

01:17:26.840 of the alt right.

01:17:29.560 Why did you do that?

01:17:30.800 So this is critical because in this

01:17:34.200 movie, I pick up a theme that I

01:17:35.580 actually began with in Hillary's

01:17:37.560 America, the last movie, and that is

01:17:38.880 the racist history of the Democratic

01:17:40.580 Party and the

01:17:42.720 Democratic Party, of course, is the

01:17:44.060 party of slavery, of segregation, of

01:17:47.300 Jim Crow, of the Ku Klux Klan, of

01:17:49.980 racial terrorism, of opposition to

01:17:52.620 the civil rights movement.

01:17:54.420 I show in this film that there's a

01:17:56.040 deep fascist streak that ran through

01:17:58.060 the Democratic Party, a kind of

01:17:59.540 amazing mutual admiration society

01:18:02.160 between the progressive Democrats on

01:18:04.000 this side of the Atlantic and the

01:18:06.260 fascists in Italy, the National

01:18:08.020 Socialists in Germany.

01:18:09.080 It's all in the movie.

01:18:10.200 And then I take on the big switch

01:18:11.460 and I show how that is kind of a

01:18:12.880 fake.

01:18:13.380 This whole idea that Nixon with a

01:18:15.340 wily southern strategy brought the

01:18:17.600 racist Dixiecrats into the

01:18:19.060 report.

01:18:19.500 None of this happened.

01:18:20.340 Did you see?

01:18:20.780 Hang on just a second.

01:18:21.300 Have you seen his movie yet?

01:18:22.720 You when you get to the can you just

01:18:24.600 tell the facts of the Dixiecrats?

01:18:26.120 This I have.

01:18:27.300 I'm pretty well read on this stuff.

01:18:29.480 Yeah.

01:18:29.620 I had never heard this before.

01:18:33.340 So the thesis is this.

01:18:35.160 It's the Democrats sort of get out of

01:18:37.100 jail free card, right?

01:18:38.260 We may have been the bad guys, but

01:18:40.120 there was this party switch that

01:18:41.920 Nixon went to the deep south.

01:18:43.780 He campaigned with the racists.

01:18:45.040 He brought him over to the Republican

01:18:46.160 Party.

01:18:46.720 So we hit this in a way in a

01:18:49.600 multiple punch.

01:18:50.500 Number one, no one has ever uncovered a

01:18:53.240 single racist campaign statement by

01:18:55.140 Nixon.

01:18:55.860 None.

01:18:56.580 So if he's campaigning to the racists,

01:18:58.000 he had to say something.

01:18:59.140 So then the progressive Democrats go,

01:19:00.880 well, you know what?

01:19:01.720 Maybe he didn't do that, but he he

01:19:03.420 spoke in racial code.

01:19:04.920 He used phrases like law and order

01:19:06.980 or drugs.

01:19:08.200 But what this misses, I mean, you know,

01:19:10.320 and we all know what that means.

01:19:11.440 We all know what that means.

01:19:12.680 Well, you know, it's one thing after

01:19:14.140 Ferguson, Missouri, to say this.

01:19:15.900 But remember, in the 1960s and early

01:19:17.820 70s, the main issue was the Vietnam

01:19:19.500 War.

01:19:20.260 So we're talking about draft dodgers.

01:19:22.680 We're talking about guys like Abby

01:19:24.880 Hoffman and Bill Ayers, who are who

01:19:27.700 are fomenting riots and bombing

01:19:29.840 things.

01:19:30.240 We're talking about hippies and

01:19:31.940 druggies like Timothy Leary, the

01:19:33.620 Berkeley professor who was advocating

01:19:36.540 LSD.

01:19:37.900 I was old enough to know I was old

01:19:39.920 enough during that time period to

01:19:41.820 remember my parents talking about the

01:19:45.440 problems in the country and what they

01:19:47.440 always assign the problems to were

01:19:49.500 these damn hippies.

01:19:51.740 You know, it was never it was never a

01:19:53.520 race thing.

01:19:54.120 It was these out of control, dope

01:19:56.420 smoking, draft dodging hippies.

01:19:59.060 Exactly.

01:19:59.720 I mean, the Republican slogan from

01:20:01.260 those days was the Democratic Party is

01:20:03.280 the party of acid, amnesty and

01:20:05.620 abortion.

01:20:06.520 Notice that there isn't a racial thing

01:20:08.720 there at all.

01:20:09.400 Anyway, bottom line of it is Nixon

01:20:10.940 loses the Deep South, which goes to

01:20:13.160 George Wallace, the Democratic

01:20:14.460 segregationist.

01:20:15.860 Now, Nixon comes into office in 1969.

01:20:18.940 What's the first thing he does?

01:20:20.540 Affirmative action.

01:20:21.420 He passes the first affirmative action

01:20:24.240 laws, basically discriminating in favor

01:20:26.420 of blacks and against whites.

01:20:27.680 Now, think about if you are a racist,

01:20:29.760 you're courting a racist base.

01:20:32.060 Are you going to actually put in laws

01:20:33.700 that favor blacks over whites?

01:20:35.100 And finally, the crusher in the movie,

01:20:37.260 I make a list of the Dixiecrats.

01:20:38.900 There are about 150 of them.

01:20:40.920 A bunch of senators.

01:20:42.360 Because you're not seeing this visually.

01:20:44.560 When you see this visually, it's

01:20:46.000 overwhelming.

01:20:46.820 Boom.

01:20:47.080 We put them up on the screen.

01:20:47.980 You make a list of 150 Dixiecrats.

01:20:51.340 And then I count how many of them

01:20:53.520 moved over to the Republican Party.

01:20:55.180 And it turns out...

01:20:56.040 How many?

01:20:57.920 I mean, you would be...

01:21:00.420 By the Democrats saying, you'd think

01:21:02.100 100, 120, 130.

01:21:04.020 Okay.

01:21:04.480 Exactly.

01:21:04.960 Go ahead.

01:21:05.160 So the answer is, in the Senate,

01:21:07.300 one guy, Strom Thurmond.

01:21:08.920 One.

01:21:09.360 And in the House, one guy, Albert

01:21:11.080 Watson.

01:21:11.620 One.

01:21:11.820 And so, 148 Dixiecrats stayed in the

01:21:15.840 Democratic Party.

01:21:16.640 They died as Democrats.

01:21:18.000 They were lying.

01:21:18.540 They have buildings in Washington, D.C.

01:21:19.920 named after them right now.

01:21:22.140 And so, this is the fable of the big

01:21:24.780 switch.

01:21:25.080 It's crushed.

01:21:26.220 So, then the question becomes,

01:21:28.180 what is the only comeback for the

01:21:30.380 left at this point?

01:21:31.160 And the only comeback is Charlottesville.

01:21:33.360 And the argument is, wait a minute.

01:21:35.260 Today, the neo-Nazis, the Klansmen,

01:21:38.660 the white supremacists are right-wingers.

01:21:40.700 There they are in Charlottesville.

01:21:42.200 Look at them.

01:21:42.880 They're wearing Trump hats.

01:21:44.720 Now, we should step back and say for a

01:21:46.280 minute, but it's just a backdrop to this

01:21:47.940 Richard Spencer business, that no one

01:21:50.420 has actually ever done any empirical

01:21:52.260 work on this.

01:21:53.580 There's been no survey, no study of

01:21:56.120 neo-Nazis or white supremacists to show,

01:21:58.260 for example, that 90% of them voted for

01:22:00.400 Trump.

01:22:00.680 There's no data.

01:22:01.400 Zero.

01:22:02.120 The whole case hinges on a few images

01:22:04.680 that are indelibly stamped in our mind

01:22:06.880 from Charlottesville of these white

01:22:08.880 supremacists who are right-wingers.

01:22:11.540 And so what I do in the movie, and by

01:22:13.160 the way, in an accompanying book of the

01:22:14.940 same title, Death of a Nation, I actually

01:22:17.000 look at all the leading white supremacists.

01:22:19.080 There are about eight of them.

01:22:20.540 And I show that every single one of them

01:22:22.740 has a deep background in the left.

01:22:25.200 All of them, without exception.

01:22:26.940 Jason Kessler, the guy who organized the

01:22:29.040 Charlottesville rally, an Obama activist,

01:22:32.020 and an Occupy Wall Street activist.

01:22:34.220 This is on the Southern Poverty Law Center

01:22:35.900 website, by the way.

01:22:37.200 So the media knew about this at the time,

01:22:39.340 but they suppressed it because it didn't

01:22:41.160 fit their narrative.

01:22:42.860 So then I decided in the movie, and this

01:22:44.560 is what Glenn's alluding to, I said,

01:22:46.460 let's bring out the poster boy of white

01:22:48.640 supremacy, the guy who's so controversial

01:22:50.600 that when he went to Florida, the governor

01:22:52.620 declared a state of emergency.

01:22:54.240 This is the white supremacist of white

01:22:56.560 supremacists.

01:22:57.720 And he is.

01:22:58.280 Richard Spencer is a Nazi.

01:22:59.860 And he coined the term alt-right.

01:23:01.280 He coined the term alt-right.

01:23:02.940 He presents himself on the right, so I put

01:23:05.740 him in front of the camera, and I begin

01:23:07.380 the interview.

01:23:08.160 His wife is the official English translator

01:23:10.760 of Alexander Dugan.

01:23:12.660 And so it goes sort of like this.

01:23:15.500 What do you think of the American founding?

01:23:17.800 Horrible mistake.

01:23:19.800 I go, all men are created equal.

01:23:21.780 True or false?

01:23:22.600 False.

01:23:23.560 I go, where do our rights come from?

01:23:25.020 He goes, well, they don't come from God

01:23:26.340 or anything like that.

01:23:27.140 They don't come from nature.

01:23:28.140 I say, whoa.

01:23:28.960 I think we have a clip.

01:23:30.020 Do we have a clip, Sarah?

01:23:30.920 Play a clip of this, please.

01:23:32.940 As a right outside of a collective

01:23:35.480 community, you have rights, not eternally

01:23:39.940 or given by God or by nature or whatever.

01:23:41.800 Who gives them to us?

01:23:43.120 You have them because you're a part

01:23:44.960 of this community.

01:23:46.140 Ultimately, the state gives those rights

01:23:47.920 to you.

01:23:48.380 So the state is the source of rights,

01:23:50.060 not the individual.

01:23:50.900 It simply is.

01:23:51.940 What would be your take on, say, Reagan?

01:23:53.760 I do not think that he was a great

01:23:55.160 president.

01:23:55.640 Who's your favorite president?

01:23:56.880 There is something about Jackson.

01:24:00.000 There's something about Polk as well,

01:24:02.360 someone who only served one term.

01:24:04.320 But I mean, Jackson and Polk, as you know,

01:24:05.760 both Democrats.

01:24:08.000 Party.

01:24:08.660 I mean, party is just the vessel that

01:24:11.860 that one uses.

01:24:13.140 I mean, Jackson's the founder of the

01:24:14.320 Democratic Party.

01:24:16.100 Not only is Jackson the founder of the

01:24:18.280 Democratic Party, Jackson is the biggest

01:24:20.140 one of the, if not the biggest racist,

01:24:23.240 with an exception of Woodrow Wilson,

01:24:25.000 ever to be in our office.

01:24:27.560 He was a stone cold race killer.

01:24:30.420 I mean, there is the good thing about

01:24:32.040 this, the beauty of all this stuff can be

01:24:33.700 checked, right?

01:24:34.240 This is when I speak on campus, young

01:24:35.680 people, they won't believe you.

01:24:36.860 So I say, listen, just just Google Andrew

01:24:38.800 Jackson and go go to images online.

01:24:40.540 You'll actually see an ad that he put in

01:24:43.380 a Tennessee paper to capture one of his

01:24:45.880 runaway slaves.

01:24:47.000 And he offers a reward.

01:24:48.600 But he basically says, if you can give

01:24:50.540 the guy 300 lashes when you catch him,

01:24:52.860 I'll give you an extra $50.

01:24:55.220 So he actually wants the guy 300 lashes.

01:24:57.760 I mean, that's whipping a man almost to

01:24:59.140 death.

01:25:00.220 So, and you'll never, the kind of thing

01:25:02.000 that the Democrats said about slaves and

01:25:04.040 about race in the 19th century, there's

01:25:05.540 nothing like this in the American

01:25:06.660 founding.

01:25:07.400 So there's an effort by the left to

01:25:09.080 blame the founders for the crimes of

01:25:11.420 the Democratic Party.

01:25:12.540 In any event, I think, what I think is

01:25:13.800 remarkable about the Spencer interview,

01:25:15.260 and it goes on and on.

01:25:16.420 We go on and discuss all kinds of

01:25:18.620 issues.

01:25:18.960 Very obvious, this guy's an atheist.

01:25:21.280 He's not just a leftist.

01:25:22.220 He's on the far left.

01:25:23.780 Yeah, he's a, he's a, well, he's a

01:25:25.440 fascist.

01:25:26.140 He's a fascist.

01:25:26.920 He's a national socialist.

01:25:28.080 And a collectivist.

01:25:29.000 And a collectivist.

01:25:30.520 And the remarkable thing about it is

01:25:32.580 there it is in the movie.

01:25:33.540 We've put a clip out on social media,

01:25:35.340 dead silence from the mainstream media.

01:25:38.140 Incredible.

01:25:38.520 Their whole Charlottesville narrative is

01:25:40.120 in ruins, and they kind of know it.

01:25:42.720 And also, this is, by the way, the

01:25:43.940 beauty of a movie, because I lay all

01:25:45.500 this out in the book, and I could have

01:25:46.740 interviewed Spencer and published a

01:25:48.380 transcript.

01:25:49.260 But when you put it on the screen, and

01:25:50.780 you see the guy, and it's coming out

01:25:52.360 of the horse's mouth, it settles the

01:25:54.440 argument.

01:25:55.080 Are you staying for time on television

01:25:57.000 with me today?

01:25:57.660 I'm going to try to do that, yes.

01:25:58.680 Okay, because I want to talk to you

01:25:59.960 about, I want to go a step further on

01:26:02.260 this, because in the movie you talk

01:26:04.760 about, after the war, how the big

01:26:07.080 switch happened, and they said, oh, put

01:26:09.260 the fascists over here to the right.

01:26:11.400 And I'd like to talk to you about that

01:26:12.660 more in depth.

01:26:13.620 It's very eye-opening, because prior to

01:26:17.180 World War II, everybody knew that

01:26:19.580 fascism was on the left.

01:26:20.580 The fascists knew it, and the

01:26:21.540 anti-fascists knew it.

01:26:23.560 Mussolini, for example, recognized FDR

01:26:25.720 immediately as a kindred spirit.

01:26:27.820 Mussolini reviews FDR's book in an

01:26:29.740 Italian magazine.

01:26:30.880 Basically, he goes, great guy, one of

01:26:33.240 us, he's a fascist.

01:26:35.580 Hitler says the same thing, pretty much.

01:26:37.840 Yeah, in the movie we actually have, I

01:26:39.480 wish we could have done it in German, but

01:26:41.680 we actually have long excerpts from the

01:26:43.880 Volkischer Beobachter, the official

01:26:45.340 Nazi newspaper, praising the New Deal.

01:26:47.720 They basically go, our big fear is that

01:26:49.880 the New Deal will fail, because their

01:26:52.000 idea is that FDR, like the Nazis, they're

01:26:55.100 putting the common good over the

01:26:56.840 individual good, its state rights over

01:26:59.480 individual rights, and its

01:27:01.600 redistribution.

01:27:02.820 There's a wonderful book that came out

01:27:04.180 recently by the German scholar Gotts

01:27:07.180 Eli, it's called Hitler's Beneficiaries.

01:27:09.820 It talks about how a lot of Hitler's

01:27:12.240 hatred for the Jews and the

01:27:13.500 confiscation of wealth of the Jews was

01:27:15.780 to fund the Nazi welfare state.

01:27:17.740 The Nazis wanted to redistribute, they

01:27:19.760 needed money, and so the Jews played

01:27:21.940 the role that today the left uses Wall

01:27:23.960 Street bankers, and frankly, their

01:27:25.740 rhetoric is very similar.

01:27:27.120 Greedy swindlers, I mean, this was the

01:27:29.320 staple of Nazi rhetoric, this is the

01:27:31.600 staple of left-wing rhetoric.

01:27:33.300 Hitler also distinguished between what he

01:27:35.080 called productive capitalism, which would

01:27:36.800 be the guy, the working-class guy, and

01:27:38.960 what he called finance capitalism.

01:27:41.080 And notice the Democrats do the same

01:27:42.540 thing.

01:27:42.820 They don't attack Procter & Gamble, they

01:27:44.860 attack Wall Street, they attack finance

01:27:47.420 capitalism, and so these parallels are,

01:27:51.040 they're not only historical, but they're

01:27:52.280 with us today.

01:27:53.040 More in just a second, with Dinesh D'Souza

01:27:55.500 and his new movie, which is out right

01:27:58.680 now and really worth seeing.

01:28:01.040 If you can take your friend and say,

01:28:02.920 okay, get past the Abraham Lincoln,

01:28:04.400 Donald Trump thing, just get past that.

01:28:06.980 Just, you know, maybe stand out in the

01:28:09.320 lobby for about five minutes and then

01:28:10.880 come in.

01:28:11.620 You don't need to do that.

01:28:14.060 You are going to have the most eye-opening

01:28:16.780 experience.

01:28:18.580 Everyone in this audience should see

01:28:20.420 Death of a Nation.

01:28:22.000 It's in theaters right now.

01:28:24.740 See it.

01:28:25.320 It is really an important education to

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01:29:58.780 Welcome back to the program with Dinesh D'Souza,

01:30:02.000 who has a new book out, or sorry, a new movie

01:30:05.000 out that you really need to see, Death of a

01:30:07.180 Nation.

01:30:08.640 Dinesh, can I switch topics with you here for

01:30:11.560 just a second?

01:30:12.820 Did you hear what happened to Alex Jones?

01:30:14.860 I did.

01:30:15.680 Okay.

01:30:16.360 Alex Jones, I want to make it really clear.

01:30:18.120 I've been against Alex Jones and what he says

01:30:21.360 and does on the air.

01:30:22.340 I think he is a very poison-ridden guy and has

01:30:27.060 caused a lot of trouble in this country, and I

01:30:30.160 think he's sick, quite honestly.

01:30:31.880 Democrats used to love him when he was bashing

01:30:33.400 Bush and saying he was responsible for 9-11.

01:30:35.280 Yeah, the 9-11 truther and, you know, Bush

01:30:38.040 blew up the levees and all of that stuff comes

01:30:40.160 from me.

01:30:40.400 He's just poison.

01:30:41.160 He's just poison.

01:30:41.940 However, I can't seem to get a real clear

01:30:46.760 understanding on, for instance, what exactly he

01:30:51.180 did on LinkedIn to get him thrown into a digital

01:30:56.280 ghetto.

01:30:57.280 He has been walled off where, you know, hey, you

01:31:00.260 can be as free as you want in your church.

01:31:02.260 You do whatever you want in your church the minute

01:31:03.680 you step outside.

01:31:04.700 No, we have taken a guy who is just as bad as

01:31:11.120 Louis Farrakhan, but Farrakhan gets a pass.

01:31:14.460 He doesn't.

01:31:16.020 Now, he's like Spencer.

01:31:17.980 He's not a conservative.

01:31:20.420 Is this concerning to you at all about just one day

01:31:24.020 you're there and next day you're completely erased?

01:31:27.280 Deeply.

01:31:28.200 I think this is actually very scary.

01:31:31.680 And my question is, first of all, where's the ACLU

01:31:35.360 on this?

01:31:36.020 Oh, yeah.

01:31:36.440 They're nowhere to be found.

01:31:37.660 Nowhere to be found.

01:31:38.320 And the other thing is that I'm seeing all this

01:31:41.260 jubilation over the fact, hey, we got rid of Alex

01:31:44.580 Jones, but Alex Jones is the tip of the iceberg.

01:31:47.380 There's a lot of other people we need to get rid of

01:31:49.080 next.

01:31:49.440 Who's next?

01:31:49.960 And make into digital non-persons.

01:31:52.680 Now, do we want to live in this kind of society?

01:31:55.180 What I find remarkable is the ease with which people

01:31:59.180 adopt this fascist mindset, a fascist mindset it is,

01:32:03.680 where you're singling out people.

01:32:05.540 And in a sense, we don't even have to discuss Alex

01:32:08.560 Jones's views.

01:32:09.260 They're immaterial.

01:32:10.180 I don't even care what they are.

01:32:11.400 Yeah.

01:32:11.560 It wouldn't matter.

01:32:13.640 Either we believe in a First Amendment,

01:32:17.000 either we believe in having...

01:32:17.860 Well, they will say, this is the argument today.

01:32:19.740 Well, the government didn't silence him.

01:32:21.860 Well, that's a distinction without a difference.

01:32:24.300 I mean, if all of the media just blocks him out and he has no

01:32:29.780 access, you can have a cute little website, but the world is

01:32:34.360 different.

01:32:34.840 Yes.

01:32:35.160 I mean, strictly speaking, the First Amendment is a limitation

01:32:38.160 on the government.

01:32:38.940 I agree with that.

01:32:39.700 Just as the 14th Amendment is a limitation on the government

01:32:44.800 discriminating, let's say, on the basis of race.

01:32:47.660 Right.

01:32:48.160 But can you imagine if high-tech companies decide that here's a

01:32:51.820 black guy, we don't like the fact that he's black.

01:32:53.720 We're a private company.

01:32:54.900 Don't talk to us about the Constitution because we're private.

01:32:57.440 We can do whatever we want.

01:32:58.500 The left would never say that.

01:32:59.680 They would be like, hound these companies and make sure that they

01:33:02.880 respect these fundamental non-discrimination principles that are

01:33:06.180 enshrined not just in our laws, but in our society.

01:33:09.860 And so the First Amendment to me is basic.

01:33:12.820 And this, I think, is the kind of fundamental violation that requires

01:33:16.760 very concerned action.

01:33:18.160 Dinesh D'Souza, I believe we're going to be seeing him tonight at

01:33:21.800 five o'clock.

01:33:22.600 You won't want to miss that.

01:33:23.540 We'll have a little longer conversation.

01:33:26.100 Dinesh D'Souza, again, see the film, Death of a Nation.

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01:34:36.580 We pause for just some good news for a second.

01:34:38.740 Uh, I just heard yesterday from a guy in Los Angeles who is a large filmmaker who, uh,

01:34:49.240 who called up and said, um, I, uh, is anybody making a movie about the Nazarene fund?

01:34:56.260 And I said, uh, no, he said, I just found out about it.

01:35:00.740 This dwarfs Schindler and his list.

01:35:04.480 This dwarfs it.

01:35:05.900 It does.

01:35:09.820 And that is you.

01:35:12.820 I really want you to know that if you have been involved in the Nazarene fund, you, you

01:35:21.720 only, I think in your passing, will you realize what you've done and realize, uh, the impact

01:35:29.860 that you have made.

01:35:31.220 You have saved so many lives.

01:35:34.600 Now, most people don't know this, uh, because the mainstream media is just not covering it

01:35:38.900 on, on, on any front.

01:35:40.540 Uh, but ISIS is still, um, is still operative.

01:35:45.120 They have about 6,000 square miles that they're running.

01:35:48.620 Uh, we know of about 300, uh, or sorry, 3000 missing Yazidis, uh, that are being held as

01:35:58.020 slaves.

01:35:58.660 There's an untold number of Christians, uh, women and children that are being held as sex

01:36:04.860 slaves and sold in the open market.

01:36:06.680 And because of you and the Nazarene fund and your support, um, you're changing the world

01:36:12.660 and saving these people.

01:36:14.060 Um, I want to tell you a couple of stories, um, one that we're working on and one that,

01:36:19.520 um, has just been resolved, but I, I want to bring in, um, our chief operations officer.

01:36:24.500 He's a Lieutenant Colonel Rudy Atala, uh, uh, uh, Atala.

01:36:27.780 And, and Rudy was with, uh, the air force.

01:36:31.520 Were you with the air force for 20 years, Rudy?

01:36:34.540 Uh, 21, 21 years.

01:36:36.080 Um, and now you're, you know, the CE, uh, the COO of the Nazarene fund and we can't thank

01:36:42.420 you.

01:36:42.560 You've done so much, um, uh, to help free these people.

01:36:46.420 Can you tell me what happened to the, uh, uh, uh, Shalzins, the Shalzin family?

01:36:53.800 Yes, absolutely.

01:36:55.220 Uh, so on the 25th of, uh, of July, about a week ago or so, uh, there was a large coordinated

01:37:02.140 attack by, uh, ISIS fighters in, uh, the Southern part of Syria called, uh, Swayda.

01:37:08.480 Uh, and, uh, the coordinated attack, uh, started at, uh, five o'clock in the morning.

01:37:14.620 Um, uh, several suicide bombers entered the provincial town of Swayda.

01:37:19.080 Uh, uh, they detonated themselves in strategic areas and, and a battle ensued.

01:37:24.380 And while that was going on, uh, at the same time, other ISIS fighters went along the Eastern

01:37:30.040 front of the city on the, on the other side and, uh, kidnapped close to 40, uh, women and

01:37:37.620 children, and the, uh, the Shalhin's, uh, family were part of that.

01:37:43.020 So, uh, Mrs. Abir Shalhin and her four children, uh, were kidnapped from the, the Shmiki village,

01:37:49.760 which is part of the, on the outskirts of Swayda, and, uh, and taken away.

01:37:54.340 Were the girls, the three girls, or, or do you know the makeup of the children?

01:38:00.440 Uh, yeah, I have the names of the children, the children.

01:38:03.360 Uh, I believe it's, uh, um, it's, uh, two, two girls and two boys.

01:38:09.220 So are the boys in more danger?

01:38:11.340 Because I know the girls are kept for sex slaves.

01:38:14.060 Are the boys in more danger of like organ harvesting?

01:38:18.700 Uh, no, actually the organ harvesting, which we can talk about is it can happen to anybody

01:38:24.760 as long as they are a match, uh, you know, for, for some buyer in Eastern Europe or Gulf

01:38:30.780 States, uh, then, uh, uh, the ISIS, uh, fighters will use them as a commodity.

01:38:36.700 Um, they're doing this in refugee there.

01:38:39.000 They, you know, they abduct people from different refugee areas, uh, across, uh, different parts

01:38:44.260 of Syria.

01:38:45.040 In this case, by the way, on this attack in the Shwada area, uh, on the 2nd, uh, of, um,

01:38:51.860 of August, uh, one 19 year old college student from that village, um, refused to, to cooperate

01:38:59.620 with, uh, the ISIS fighters.

01:39:01.320 So they, they, uh, decapitated him, um, on, and videotaped and sent, and, and sent a copy

01:39:08.260 of the video to his family and to the village to scare everybody.

01:39:12.540 So, uh, two days ago, the villagers responded angrily by, by lynching, uh, captured ISIS fighters

01:39:20.960 in the town square.

01:39:22.160 So this is an ongoing event right now.

01:39:25.000 Um, by the way, this attack caused 204, uh, people, uh, they, the death toll was 204 people

01:39:33.320 dead, 180 civilians wounded.

01:39:36.380 And the 40 or 45 that were kidnapped, do we know where they are?

01:39:41.900 So they are, they were moved, uh, east, uh, to apply in an, in the direction of, uh, an area

01:39:49.780 called Badia, uh, which is a, uh, the desert area in central Syria, uh, stretching out eastwards

01:39:57.740 towards the Iraqi border.

01:39:59.640 And mom is quite pregnant, is she not?

01:40:03.240 Yeah, mom, mom gave delivery in, uh, during this captivity in, in this past week, she was,

01:40:09.900 uh, pregnant with their fifth child.

01:40:11.440 So what is the, is the, are we able to do anything to help these people?

01:40:19.920 Or is there a plan?

01:40:20.520 Yeah.

01:40:21.240 Yes.

01:40:21.780 We're, we're in touch, we're in touch with the local community in Sueda and, uh, we've

01:40:26.540 already have our assets working, uh, on the ground, uh, to try to pinpoint their percent,

01:40:32.300 the precise location.

01:40:33.560 Um, the ISIS, uh, the, uh, the ISIS kidnappers, um, uh, are trying to, uh, pawn off or at least,

01:40:42.060 uh, get rid of some of the hostages by trading them for some of their fighters with the, uh,

01:40:47.660 Assad regime.

01:40:49.120 Um, and we're, we're in the process of also doing our due diligence to try to figure out

01:40:54.360 where they're being kept so we can, we can find a way to, to retrieve them or bring them

01:40:58.960 back.

01:40:59.340 Rudy, when we first started the Nazarene Fund, you weren't with us yet.

01:41:02.400 Um, and, uh, we were just, I mean, we're just rookies.

01:41:06.400 We didn't know what we were doing and we figured, I think, I think it was, wasn't it $20,000

01:41:10.580 for a family of four or $20,000 per person, something like that, um, to be able to get

01:41:15.960 them out, to rescue them, et cetera, et cetera.

01:41:18.860 Um, now in the few years that we've been doing this and since you've joined us here,

01:41:24.040 uh, what a year ago or so, um, uh, you've got that number down to what?

01:41:29.460 Uh, yeah, I brought it down to, uh, $67 per person and I, I, uh, I joined you two years

01:41:37.640 ago.

01:41:38.640 Um, so as it was being developed, I, I began helping you.

01:41:43.240 Uh, and, uh, now that we're moving, now that we're moving large groups of people, we've

01:41:48.600 got it down to $67 a person, $67 per person.

01:41:54.780 Uh, it's kind of puts it into the, the Schindler's list.

01:42:10.740 That last scene, how much is this work?

01:42:12.600 How much was this ring?

01:42:13.480 Why did I keep this ring?

01:42:15.220 $67.

01:42:17.160 That's remarkable.

01:42:18.960 Uh, and, and Rudy, you are 100% responsible for that.

01:42:22.300 And, and, and I can't thank you enough for that.

01:42:24.620 Um, can you tell me, um, the, the good news about Martine?

01:42:30.220 Yes, Martine is a great story.

01:42:32.480 I mean, at least now it's a great story.

01:42:34.900 Her, her, the, the tragedy began, um, four years ago in 2014.

01:42:40.860 Um, her and her family there, she's a Yazidi.

01:42:43.620 Her and her family come from the Sinjar area.

01:42:46.440 Uh, uh, and, um, and if anybody wants to read the story, they can go on the Nazarene, uh, the

01:42:53.400 Nazarenefund.org, uh, and, and read about the details of the story on our blog site.

01:42:59.580 We just posted it.

01:43:00.560 Um, she was abducted when she was, uh, she was kidnapped when she was eight, um, uh, when

01:43:06.620 ISIS fighters came in to basically take sex slaves, uh, for themselves from, from, uh, the, uh,

01:43:14.220 the Sinjar province area.

01:43:16.540 Um, so she was moved around, uh, inside of, uh, of Syria, uh, multiple locations.

01:43:23.380 And, uh, when she turned nine for captors, uh, you know, using, um, ISIS logic at the

01:43:30.940 prophets, one of the prophets wives was nine years old.

01:43:34.180 Therefore, when Martine turned nine, she was of legal age to be raped.

01:43:38.300 And she was raped in some cases twice a day, every day, uh, for the, for the rest of the

01:43:44.740 remainder of time in captivity.

01:43:46.920 Um, and, uh, she was beaten, uh, tortured, uh, essentially an indentured slave.

01:43:52.700 And now that she's 12, about a month ago, um, she was rescued and we took custody of her,

01:44:00.160 uh, and her father and brought them to a safe location inside, inside Iraq, where we maintain,

01:44:06.700 uh, you know, uh, an eye on her.

01:44:09.040 We've got her going through medical treatment and we have, uh, uh, worked closely with the

01:44:14.980 Australian government to get her and her father, uh, safely and securely moved to Australia.

01:44:21.360 Um, after we find one of her sisters that we are in the current negotiations for with,

01:44:27.940 uh, with the second in command of, uh, the ISIS, uh, organization in Idlib, Syria.

01:44:33.100 Um, when you say negotiations, we don't pay for these people, we're not giving money to

01:44:40.940 these people.

01:44:42.700 No, I, you know, I, my military background and my, uh, will not ever allow me to, uh, to

01:44:49.620 pay a terrorist.

01:44:50.660 Uh, I, I refuse to do that.

01:44:52.340 Um, they, the, the second in command is an ISIS prince, um, has asked for $75,000 for her

01:44:59.580 release.

01:45:00.020 Um, we negotiated that price down to 45, although we're not going to give him a penny

01:45:05.460 of that, of that money.

01:45:06.660 We are working on a strategy to, uh, to get her back.

01:45:10.660 Um, I cannot, I don't know.

01:45:12.740 Yeah.

01:45:12.860 Let's not, let's not go any further than that.

01:45:14.740 Um, uh, and, uh, how did her dad find her?

01:45:19.680 So going to back to Martine, what happened is she was moved around quite a bit when,

01:45:24.380 um, US and coalition forces began, uh, strikes on Raqqa and, uh, and ISIS was under pressure.

01:45:32.340 Martine was moved from, uh, from family to family, eventually ending up with an ISIS, uh,

01:45:38.020 member who had multiple wives.

01:45:40.340 And one of the wives took a liking to Martine, um, seeing what she had gone through for, uh,

01:45:46.640 you know, for four years.

01:45:48.360 And, and so she, uh, reached out to, uh, to, to somebody, um, in one of the open markets,

01:45:54.920 a Kurdish woman, uh, who was a trafficker and, uh, and, and told the Martine story.

01:46:00.980 Uh, meanwhile, uh, some ISIS fighters came, came in asking for Martine so they can sell her

01:46:07.120 back to her father and Martine said she wasn't Yazidi because she didn't, she knew her father

01:46:11.420 didn't have the money to sell her.

01:46:13.140 So the, the woman that took a liking to her, uh, reached out to a Kurdish woman and, uh,

01:46:18.260 that Kurdish woman, you know, had some contacts.

01:46:21.200 Uh, they took a picture of Martine and then eventually it percolated to her dad.

01:46:26.820 And once he found out he was beside himself, um, and then we worked on that to get, to get

01:46:33.560 them back together.

01:46:34.400 All right, Rudy, um, um, my prayers, my family's prayers are with you.

01:46:39.920 And, uh, is there anything that you need?

01:46:43.540 Well, we need, uh, in addition to prayers, uh, we are, we are working right now very heavily

01:46:48.700 on trying to shut down for Oregon, Oregon harvesting farms, um, in Northern Syria.

01:46:55.220 So we need all the resources we can to do so.

01:46:58.720 Um, you know, we've opened up a front in Burma.

01:47:01.420 We're opening up a few fronts in, uh, in Africa where slave trade and, uh, sex slavery is

01:47:06.900 ongoing.

01:47:07.940 So, um, and, uh, you know, this year alone, we're going to be on track to move 14,000 people

01:47:13.460 out of Syria, Iraq to Australia.

01:47:15.820 So, you know, and it's, it's remarkable, Rudy.

01:47:20.940 I, I thank you.

01:47:22.280 Thank you so much for everything.

01:47:23.680 Um, I, I, I cannot, um, express to you in strong enough terms.

01:47:30.140 I mean, I think we're on track this year to move 14,000 people.

01:47:37.200 Those are people, those are Christians and new cities that are going to be killed or enslaved

01:47:42.020 by ISIS or some arm of Islam, uh, 14,000 state departments, not doing this 14,000 this year

01:47:53.240 alone.

01:47:54.780 I know of a couple of things that are happening right now that are just incredible.

01:48:01.200 Um, and someday a film will be made about this.

01:48:05.320 Um, but it is heroicism.

01:48:07.840 Unlike you can imagine 67 or 62 or $67 per person per person.

01:48:16.160 And we, um, are stretching our budget as far as we can.

01:48:20.320 And we really need your help.

01:48:21.560 If you would like to help us even $5 a month, just make a renewing gift, $5 a month, $10 a

01:48:28.640 month, whatever you can do, please become an abolitionist.

01:48:33.400 Join us and help us save these, these Christians and religious minorities from being rounded

01:48:40.020 up, enslaved or killed.

01:48:42.360 This is the slave trade of our lifetime.

01:48:48.240 TheNazareneFund.org, TheNazareneFund.org, or you can go to MercuryOne.org.

01:48:58.640 So still the world melts down.

01:49:02.200 Okay.

01:49:03.240 And, uh, well, I know this is hard to believe, but you know, the, the dollar, uh, inflation

01:49:08.600 kind of, it's bad.

01:49:09.720 The global reserve currency.

01:49:11.840 I know, I know, I know it's crazy.

01:49:13.880 So I have this from the Canadian mint.

01:49:17.620 I have a maple flex bar, which has 19 individual bars of silver.

01:49:21.880 Uh, and, uh, so I can go and say, Hey, I've, you know, how, how much for, how much, how much

01:49:28.720 for that, uh, bag of groceries over there?

01:49:31.060 And they tell me, and I'm like, okay, well, this is a quarter ounce of silver and it's

01:49:35.700 from the Royal Canadian mint.

01:49:37.000 And it's, you know, obviously, you know, usable money.

01:49:40.020 So, uh, I, I can trade you for that.

01:49:43.080 Yeah.

01:49:43.480 What do you, what do you have?

01:49:44.780 Well, I mean, I can't, I guess, speak to my specific situation.

01:49:48.060 Yeah, I guess I could say that a lot of people would realize that after you break those bars

01:49:52.480 apart, a lot of times you leave them around the studio.

01:49:54.780 So there is opportunity for, uh, enterprising, uh, thieves, uh, opportunistic people to solve

01:50:05.100 these situations.

01:50:05.840 Yes.

01:50:06.400 To solve these situations.

01:50:08.280 Okay.

01:50:09.140 All right.

01:50:09.720 But let's say you weren't around the studio and couldn't just pick up the leftovers that

01:50:14.680 I do not leave laying around because I know of sticky fingered people like you.

01:50:19.400 Uh, well then you're screwed.

01:50:20.700 Yeah, pretty much.

01:50:21.720 That's why you probably, you probably have to make a phone call.

01:50:24.480 Yeah.

01:50:24.960 Uh, maple flex, the maple flex bar is from the Royal Canadian mint.

01:50:28.760 It is truly, uh, remarkable and, and great.

01:50:32.380 And, you know, it can be used in your precious metals IRA.

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