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00:03:30.480 So Elon Musk has released the second set of Twitter files.

00:03:36.000 Now, there is a caveat to that, and I'll give it to you here in just a second.

00:03:39.640 But gave them to Barry Weiss.

00:03:41.360 And Barry Weiss, formerly with the New York Times, and not a conservative, but not somebody who is crazy either,

00:03:50.500 decided to, she was given the files, and she outlined it pretty well on Twitter.

00:03:58.760 One, new Twitter files investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees built blacklists,

00:04:05.980 prevented disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limited the visibility of entire accounts

00:04:13.000 or even trending topics, all in secret, without informing users.

00:04:18.100 So, in other words, everything that we said that was going on, was going on.

00:04:23.500 Twitter once had a mission to give everyone the power to create and share ideas and information instantly without barriers.

00:04:31.400 Along the way, barriers, nevertheless, were erected.

00:04:35.260 Three, take, for example, Stanford's Dr. J, I can't pronounce his name, who argued, what is it?

00:04:42.400 Bhattacharya?

00:04:43.160 Bhattacharya.

00:04:43.840 Bhattacharya, who argued that COVID lockdowns would harm children.

00:04:48.100 Twitter secretly placed him on a trends blacklist, which prevented his tweets from trending.

00:04:54.420 Four.

00:04:55.060 We should point out, she's posting the screenshots of this.

00:04:57.980 Like, you can see on his account, it says trends blacklist.

00:05:01.960 Like, they have these little recent abuse strike, strike count, and then trends blacklist.

00:05:06.980 This is something that they denied doing over and over and over again.

00:05:11.180 They not only denied it, the media covered up for it, but this, as the media is now telling

00:05:16.720 us, is old news.

00:05:18.080 Oh.

00:05:18.680 This is old news.

00:05:19.560 I guess in a way.

00:05:20.440 Or consider the popular right-wing talk show host, Dan Bongino, who at one point was slapped

00:05:25.800 with a search blacklist.

00:05:28.640 So, you couldn't search him.

00:05:29.860 Twitter set the account of conservative activists, Charlie Kirk, to do not amplify.

00:05:36.220 And again, all the screenshots are there.

00:05:38.420 Twitter denied that it does such things.

00:05:41.420 In 2018, Twitter's head of legal policy and trust and the head of product said, we don't

00:05:48.440 shadow ban.

00:05:49.460 And we certainly don't shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.

00:05:53.480 Hmm.

00:05:53.900 Looks like they were lying.

00:05:55.400 What many people call shadow banning, Twitter executives, employees, call visibility filtering.

00:06:02.980 Oh.

00:06:04.080 Not Orwellian at all.

00:06:05.780 No.

00:06:07.500 Think about visibility filtering, Barry Rice writes, as a way for us to suppress what people

00:06:14.200 see to different levels.

00:06:16.420 It's a very powerful tool.

00:06:18.440 This is one senior Twitter employee.

00:06:21.160 Uh, VF refers to Twitter's control over visibility.

00:06:26.180 It used VF to block searches of individual users, to limit the scope of a particular tweet's

00:06:33.780 discoverability, to block select users' posts from ever appearing on trending page, and from

00:06:40.400 inclusion in hashtag searches, um, all without the user's knowledge.

00:06:46.060 We control visibility quite a bit, and we control the amplification of your content quite a bit,

00:06:52.000 and normal people do not know how much we do, one Twitter engineer told us.

00:06:57.680 Um, the group that decided whether to limit the reach of certain users was the strategic

00:07:03.540 response team or the global escalation team.

00:07:07.720 Uh, they often, often handled up to 200 cases a day, but there existed a level beyond official

00:07:14.440 ticketing, beyond the rank and file moderators following the company's policy on paper, and

00:07:20.400 that is the site integrity policy and policy escalation support.

00:07:26.200 This secret group, head of legal policy and trust, and global head of trust and safety,

00:07:33.260 subsequent CEOs, Jack Dorsey, and Parag, uh, whatever his name is, and others, uh, Barry Weiss

00:07:40.780 said, this is the biggest, most politically sensitive decisions that were made.

00:07:46.920 Think higher follower account, controversial.

00:07:50.340 Another Twitter employee told us these, uh, for these, there would be no ticketing or anything.

00:07:58.000 So they did not want the rest of the company even knowing they were doing this.

00:08:03.440 They wanted this to be kind of their own little pathway to censorship.

00:08:07.320 And let's just remember when Jack got on to Hannity and he was like, we don't do any of this.

00:08:11.860 I can promise you, we don't do it.

00:08:13.620 To be fair to Jack himself, some of these files are showing that he wasn't even consulted on this stuff.

00:08:19.640 Like they were other, other levels of employees doing it.

00:08:22.420 It wasn't necessarily going to him.

00:08:24.080 Yeah.

00:08:24.580 He seems to be an Elon Musk supporter, by the way.

00:08:26.700 Yeah, I know he does.

00:08:27.600 So I know he is an Elon supports, uh, Jack.

00:08:31.000 Yeah.

00:08:31.320 He seems to be, it's, it seems to be the culture was the big problem.

00:08:35.280 This is what I said about, um, Zuckerberg.

00:08:39.720 Zuckerberg is either completely out of the loop and has no idea what's happening in his own company, 0.98

00:08:45.920 or he's a fantastic liar. 0.92

00:08:49.520 And I, I'm not sure what it is. 0.70

00:08:51.360 I mean, I don't think he's a fantastic liar.

00:08:53.600 Um, but, uh, uh, I, I'm not sure it's like Jack.

00:08:58.240 I'm not sure if he really knows what's going on in his own company.

00:09:02.700 If you believe the Jack story, um, the account, um, let's see here.

00:09:08.800 Where was I?

00:09:09.640 I think you're in 16.

00:09:10.480 Oh, I'm in 16.

00:09:11.100 One of the accounts that rose to this level of scrutiny of was libs of tick tock, an account

00:09:16.660 that was on the trends blacklist.

00:09:18.960 And it was designated as do not take action on user without consulting with the higher

00:09:26.100 group.

00:09:26.600 The account, uh, now boasts over 1.4 million followers was subject to six suspensions in

00:09:33.860 2022 alone or 20, yeah, 2022 alone.

00:09:37.260 Each time they were blocked from posting for as long as a week.

00:09:40.740 Twitter repeatedly informed the, uh, libs of tick tock that they had been suspended for

00:09:46.280 violating Twitter's policy against hateful conduct, uh, content and conduct.

00:09:51.660 But in an internal memo from October, 2022, after their seventh suspension, the committee

00:09:59.000 acknowledged that libs of tick tock had not directly engaged in behavior, uh, violative

00:10:05.660 of the hateful conduct policy.

00:10:08.160 That's incredible.

00:10:08.980 I mean, and here it is.

00:10:10.320 I mean, there's the email.

00:10:12.020 They have the email.

00:10:13.320 Uh, and basically they're saying they suspended her for no reason.

00:10:18.360 Right.

00:10:19.920 At least no, no formal reason, no reason that, that, that was identified in their rules.

00:10:26.080 Yeah.

00:10:26.300 They came up with a new one.

00:10:27.520 Right.

00:10:27.760 The committee justified her suspensions internally by claiming her post encouraged online harassment

00:10:33.500 of hospitals and medical providers, um, by insinuating that gender affirming health care 0.99

00:10:39.100 is equivalent to child abuse or grooming.

00:10:40.980 Compare this to what happened when, uh, she was doxed.

00:10:45.220 The libs of tech talk, uh, poster, um, November 21st, 2022, a photo of her home and address

00:10:52.200 was posted in a twip tweet that had garnered more than 10,000 likes when, uh, libs of tick

00:10:57.540 tock told Twitter that the address had been disseminated.

00:11:00.120 Um, as she says, Twitter support responded with this message.

00:11:03.720 We reviewed the report content and didn't find it to be in violation of the Twitter

00:11:07.760 rules.

00:11:08.300 No action was taking taken.

00:11:10.400 The docs tweet is still up still still.

00:11:13.940 I wonder if Elon will take care of that one today.

00:11:16.060 I would hope, uh, in internal Slack messages, Twitter employees spoke of using technicalities

00:11:21.480 to restrict the visibility of tweets and subjects.

00:11:24.500 Here's Yole Roth, uh, Twitter's then global head of trust and safety in a direct message

00:11:29.640 to a colleague, um, SI is, uh, technically spam enforcements as a way to solve.

00:11:35.980 I can't read the whole thing.

00:11:37.720 Solve a problem created by safety under and under enforcing their policies, which again,

00:11:42.700 isn't a problem per se, but it keeps us from addressing the root cause of the issue,

00:11:46.580 which is that our safety policies need some attention.

00:11:49.720 Six days later, direct message with an employee on health misinformation, privacy, and identity

00:11:54.140 research team.

00:11:56.020 Roth requested more research, uh, to support expanding non-removal policy interventions

00:12:02.000 like disabling engagements and deamplification visibility filtering.

00:12:07.280 These are all the things that were under the banner of shadow bans that they denied over

00:12:11.900 and over.

00:12:12.620 So it just goes on and on, but it is, um, uh, more of the same, everything that we knew.

00:12:19.760 Now, this story you would think can't get any worse, right?

00:12:26.180 Well, if you remember back in June 23, uh, on 2022, um, there were a number of people that

00:12:39.060 pointed out that Twitter was hiring an alarming number of FBI agents.

00:12:45.000 Um, and this is something we pointed out in a special just recently, uh, that all of them

00:12:53.060 are doing this, the revolving door from the FBI to Amazon, to Google, to, uh, Zuckerberg's

00:13:01.200 Facebook and to Twitter is astounding.

00:13:04.980 One of the guys who went to Twitter is James Baker.

00:13:09.240 Now I'm thinking about an old poster, a propaganda poster from the Soviet union, Vladimir Lenin

00:13:20.040 stands in front of a giant red Soviet emblem with his right arm stretching forward in the

00:13:25.400 caption reads to the bright future of communist society, universal prosperity and enduring

00:13:31.760 peace.

00:13:32.880 The words to the bright future would be good, would be used to, uh, by some, uh, at the

00:13:40.240 Politburo policy officials in the KGB as an excuse when they asserted their heavy hand on their

00:13:46.400 people.

00:13:47.020 You don't like reporting nothing but propaganda and lies in the Soviet media media.

00:13:52.320 Don't worry.

00:13:52.840 It's for your safety to the bright future.

00:13:55.360 You don't want your family member go to the reeducation camp to the bright future for 1.00

00:14:00.980 others.

00:14:01.620 All the people suffering under communist control, the phrase became a sort of coping

00:14:06.940 mechanism.

00:14:08.500 Sure. 0.50

00:14:09.180 This all sucks, but to the bright future.

00:14:12.320 Now Soviets did that because the ends justify the means they had a plan, the bright future 0.96

00:14:21.640 and that, that allowed them to justify anything.

00:14:27.000 We see this happening everywhere.

00:14:32.840 Now think about that.

00:14:36.280 The next time you use a phone that was made by Huawei or you fire up tick tock.

00:14:44.640 A product you're using can be used to support Chinese national intelligence work, but it's

00:14:51.600 not just Chinese, Russian.

00:14:55.280 It is also Americans.

00:14:58.040 The FBI is the political commissaire, the commissars.

00:15:03.420 They admitted recently to holding regular meetings with all of the big social media companies.

00:15:08.660 They maintain quote relationships and met weekly.

00:15:12.820 Mark Zuckerberg gave a hint on a Joe Rogan podcast that some of the meetings contained information

00:15:19.400 that would warn them against things like the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:15:25.260 Now.

00:15:26.520 They knew it wasn't Russian propaganda.

00:15:28.900 So why was the FBI feeding misinformation to social media companies?

00:15:33.100 We know the FBI didn't want Donald Trump to become president because we saw that when

00:15:39.220 an FBI lawyer was caught falsifying evidence in order to get a FISA warrant to spy on the

00:15:45.560 Trump campaign, Carter Page.

00:15:49.120 And nothing happened to him.

00:15:51.680 Speaking of FBI lawyers, it was the FBI's top lawyer, James Baker, that helped facilitate

00:15:58.980 the meeting between the Democratic operative Michael Sussman and the FBI investigators to

00:16:05.480 look into the bogus Trump Alphabank smear.

00:16:09.060 OK, that was the top FBI lawyer, James Baker.

00:16:13.580 He then left the FBI.

00:16:16.720 And guess who hired him?

00:16:18.960 Twitter.

00:16:20.480 Now, this is before Elon Musk.

00:16:23.620 Now, we know from the Twitter file disclosure that James Baker, now Twitter's top lawyer,

00:16:32.380 helped suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:16:35.420 So he went from the FBI to Twitter to help shape all of the news that you would get off

00:16:42.380 of Twitter.

00:16:43.200 But wait, there's more.

00:16:45.120 When Musk tried to release the file showing how Twitter suppressed the story, Baker intercepted

00:16:52.820 the evidence to vet what was about to be released.

00:16:57.520 We're talking real time here, gang.

00:17:01.580 Was it to take out the parts that showed the FBI was involved?

00:17:08.220 Musk this week was not amused and fired James Baker.

00:17:12.360 But don't be surprised if he goes right back to the FBI or to Facebook or to Google or to Amazon.

00:17:21.500 The Twitter files show how outside political actors, usually from the left, have a far too

00:17:29.620 friendly relationship with big tech.

00:17:32.560 And these companies are all too willing to do their bidding.

00:17:36.120 We knew all of this already.

00:17:38.420 It was obvious.

00:17:39.500 But it is truly remarkable to see in their own emails.

00:17:47.460 Because it leads one to ask the question, what is the difference between China and the Soviet Union and us?

00:17:57.600 Here's the bad news.

00:17:58.540 The difference is that the people of the Soviet Union and China had this kind of behavior forced on them.

00:18:06.660 Today, Silicon Valley and the media do it voluntarily.

00:18:13.620 For the bright future.

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00:18:37.300 How old do those dogs usually live?

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00:19:20.680 Oh, so, how are you, Stu?

00:19:34.960 Really good.

00:19:36.120 You know, I mean, I'm fascinated that we're actually starting to learn things behind the scenes at Twitter.

00:19:41.960 It's interesting how Elon Musk is doing this.

00:19:44.420 He's giving all of these, like, broad access to all of these emails to a couple of different journalists.

00:19:51.920 And I guess the only condition is they put the results out first on Twitter.

00:19:59.960 That's it.

00:20:00.540 Do whatever you want.

00:20:01.480 Say whatever you want.

00:20:02.600 Just do it on Twitter first.

00:20:03.740 I think that's great.

00:20:05.500 He doesn't seem to be trying to hide anything.

00:20:06.980 In fact, the exact opposite.

00:20:08.320 He's trying to be transparent and trying to bring back the trust to the site.

00:20:12.280 Is he, though?

00:20:13.200 Adam Schiff, I think, called him out yesterday.

00:20:17.260 Of course.

00:20:17.920 I mean, Adam Schiff came out and he said, hey, hate speech is crazy. 0.98

00:20:24.920 You know, the slurs against black people, women, Jewish people, and gay men. 0.98

00:20:30.240 The numbers on Twitter are abysmal and unacceptable. 0.93

00:20:34.220 And we're going to be demanding action there in Congress.

00:20:40.280 Yeah.

00:20:40.520 Are you, Schiff?

00:20:41.580 Yeah.

00:20:41.840 Are you?

00:20:42.480 Are you?

00:20:43.420 And as Elon Musk pointed out, actually, the hate speech is down by a third since he took over.

00:20:48.460 But why would facts bother anybody?

00:20:52.560 They're always in the way.

00:20:53.360 Schiff.

00:20:53.640 Facts.

00:20:54.260 By the way, did you see, too, that Elon Musk tweeted this?

00:20:57.300 As Barry Weiss clearly describes, the rules were enforced against the right, but not against the left.

00:21:04.160 So, I mean, this is exactly what we've been saying.

00:21:07.620 And at some level, right, you have this impression, right?

00:21:13.280 You look at these social media sites and you have an impression.

00:21:16.260 You can cite anecdotal evidence, right, of people you know on the right that were censored and people on the left.

00:21:22.040 You can say, oh, well, how come this person wasn't taken down and this person was?

00:21:24.960 But that's not evidence, right?

00:21:26.800 No.

00:21:26.960 It's like an impression.

00:21:27.660 This is evidence.

00:21:28.400 This is evidence.

00:21:29.100 Yeah, this is evidence.

00:21:29.760 They were doing all of those things we said they were doing.

00:21:33.160 You know, and I think Twitter was the least of the offenders.

00:21:37.500 I think that if you look at Google, YouTube, and Facebook, I bet you it is much, much worse.

00:21:47.320 So just if Elon Musk can just buy all the other companies, too.

00:21:49.960 Well, if Elon Musk can stay out of jail, my gosh, he's being investigated and everything, which just again goes to reinforce the point that government and these media outlets are in bed and are acting in a coordinated fashion.

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00:23:48.200 Hello, America.

00:23:58.940 Welcome.

00:23:59.740 I'm so glad that you have joined us today.

00:24:01.800 We, unfortunately, have a lot of stuff to cover.

00:24:04.660 The White House is defending their Russian prisoner swap.

00:24:10.160 It is amazing.

00:24:12.240 Now, I know that I have a different opinion on this, but it has always been my feeling and what I always say to my kids whenever we go to another country.

00:24:22.460 You have a passport, yes, but the government's not going to come and get you if you break this country's laws.

00:24:33.540 If you break the laws, you know, you murder somebody, you're doing drugs, whatever.

00:24:39.700 If that's the law, you know, you should be pretty aware of it.

00:24:43.380 Nobody's coming over to Saudi Arabia to rescue me if I happen to bring in a box of Bibles. 0.99

00:24:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:50.480 It's against the law.

00:24:52.460 So, I don't like the fact that we're going for, I mean, I don't mind it because I think the punishment is so harsh, but I don't like the fact that we've gone after this woman, which I believe we're really only making this big of a deal out of.

00:25:12.000 Not that we shouldn't rescue her or anything else, but we are willing to trade away a brutal killer, a guy who is called the merchant of death.

00:25:25.380 And I believe we're only doing it because of the sexuality of Griner.

00:25:34.240 I have several, several things at play here.

00:25:37.200 It's a gift to the LGBT community because he's going to take out Sam, is his name? 0.86

00:25:43.680 Sam Britton.

00:25:45.620 Yeah.

00:25:46.140 I thought it was Brinson, but you know, you're talking about, yeah, the person who keeps stealing luggage at airports.

00:25:50.760 Yeah.

00:25:51.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:51.680 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 No, I mean, I think it's partially that.

00:25:53.360 I think there is a fame component to it.

00:25:56.480 She's a famous prisoner. 1.00

00:25:57.900 Yes.

00:25:58.040 There is probably a, I mean, there's a multiple intersectional lines she crosses off.

00:26:03.620 It's not just the LGBTQIA2 plus community.

00:26:06.420 Yeah, right, right, right.

00:26:07.340 So that's there as well.

00:26:09.180 And America loves their WNBA.

00:26:11.540 I mean, there's just, there's a lot of passion for the WNBA. 1.00

00:26:14.380 Here's my biggest problem.

00:26:16.220 My biggest problem with this is who we, I guess America does negotiate for terrorists.

00:26:21.620 That's scary.

00:26:22.280 So this should, warning, do not go to any country that is in the least shape or form anti-American

00:26:34.200 because you are now a target to get a known deadly terrorist out of prison.

00:26:45.840 To be used as a chip, right?

00:26:47.180 And we should, and I know you mentioned this off the air, but we should point out that there's

00:26:50.980 a good chance that she didn't actually commit a crime.

00:26:53.540 Yeah, because we don't know if she committed this crime or not.

00:26:55.860 She admitted it.

00:26:56.840 But she admitted it in Russia.

00:26:58.400 In Russian court.

00:26:59.180 So, I mean, what are you going to do?

00:27:00.840 Right.

00:27:01.160 It would very well be that she said whatever she had to say at that time.

00:27:04.000 And I'm glad she's out and I'm glad she's home.

00:27:08.140 You know, I don't like the fact that we left the FBI or the former Marine there.

00:27:14.060 We leave the FBI agent there, but not the former Marine.

00:27:17.900 I don't like that.

00:27:18.980 Yeah.

00:27:20.040 You know, let's, can we get a little more for Victor Bout?

00:27:25.300 Here's the CBS 60 Minutes segment on who this guy is.

00:27:31.420 Victor Bout, in my eyes, is one of the most dangerous men on the face of the earth.

00:27:38.520 On the face of the earth.

00:27:39.740 Without a doubt.

00:27:40.440 Mike Braun, the former chief of operations for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration,

00:27:46.100 told us Bout first exploded on the scene in war-torn West Africa in the late 1980s.

00:27:53.160 Elevating bloody conflicts from machetes and single-shot rifles to...

00:27:57.540 AK-47s.

00:27:58.860 Not by the thousands, but by the tens of thousands.

00:28:01.800 So he weaponizes civil war in Africa.

00:28:04.040 He transformed these young, adolescent warriors into insidious, mindless, maniacally-driven

00:28:13.340 killing machines that operated with assembly line efficiencies.

00:28:17.260 Now 43, Bout from the Soviet Republic of Tajikistan, is a mystery man who reportedly served in the

00:28:24.060 Soviet Air Force and intelligence service.

00:28:26.940 The U.S. has indicted him on four terror-related charges, including conspiracy to kill Americans.

00:28:32.500 What makes him a threat to the United States?

00:28:35.040 He is a shadow facilitator.

00:28:37.160 He's arming not only designated terrorist groups, insurgent groups, but he's also arming

00:28:43.280 very powerful drug trafficking cartels around the globe.

00:28:48.360 Taking advantage of Russian military contacts at the highest levels and the collapse of the

00:28:53.120 Soviet Union, federal prosecutors allege Bout essentially became a one-stop shop, offering

00:28:59.100 an unlimited supply of stockpiled Cold War weapons to bad guys around the world, including

00:29:05.140 Charles Taylor of Liberia, who's now on trial for war crimes.

00:29:09.700 According to the U.S. indictment, Bout had a unique selling point when it came to weapons

00:29:14.160 trafficking.

00:29:14.640 A fleet of cargo airplanes capable of transporting weapons and military equipment anytime, anywhere.

00:29:22.300 More than 60 planes in all, his own private air force.

00:29:25.940 Those Russian aircraft were built like flying dump trucks. 0.52

00:29:29.940 He could move this stuff and drop it with pinpoint accuracy to any desert, to any jungle, to any

00:29:37.180 other remote place in the world, right into the hands of what I refer to as the potpourri 0.99

00:29:42.720 of global scum. 1.00

00:29:43.540 So, let's see. 1.00

00:29:45.600 We're funding the war for Ukraine, trying to defend itself against Russia, and we hand 0.56

00:29:53.620 over a guy who knows how to arm and knows how to take war and escalate it into a massive

00:30:04.320 killing machine.

00:30:06.040 That's good. 0.97

00:30:07.420 That's really good.

00:30:08.460 I think it's worth the WNBA player.

00:30:10.380 Look, that's maybe the most amazing part.

00:30:13.000 You could really make the argument that no matter how many prisoners they had, we shouldn't

00:30:18.280 trade this guy for them.

00:30:19.480 No.

00:30:19.840 He is one of the most, I mean, he's responsible for, God, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands

00:30:24.280 of deaths.

00:30:24.740 He, when he was captured, he was trying to sell weapons to Colombian terrorists.

00:30:34.620 And the Colombian terrorist said to Victor Boot, we are going to use these weapons.

00:30:41.060 We may wind up shooting down U.S. 0.76

00:30:42.620 pilots.

00:30:43.640 And Boot responded, we have the same enemy.

00:30:47.540 Now, the person he was talking to was not actually a Colombian terrorist.

00:30:50.760 He was an agent, an undercover agent, and they arrested him on the spot.

00:30:54.300 But he literally was in the middle of trying to kill U.S. citizens while he was arrested.

00:31:02.700 I mentioned yesterday, when you were out, Glenn, the movie Lord of War with Nicolas Cage, which

00:31:07.500 is about this guy's life, you know, pretty close to it.

00:31:10.600 They changed his name.

00:31:12.080 They changed some of the details.

00:31:13.360 But it's pretty close to his life.

00:31:15.000 And you see how he did this.

00:31:16.160 He went into the Soviet Union as it was collapsing.

00:31:18.600 And, you know, in a business sense, in an evil sense, a brilliant way, realized that there

00:31:24.580 was no more oversight from the central government of all of these weapons.

00:31:27.720 So he bought them for pennies on the dollar, bribed officials locally in the military who

00:31:33.240 had lost support from Moscow.

00:31:34.940 They no longer had the funds coming in.

00:31:37.320 Right.

00:31:37.620 He would ship them all across the world.

00:31:40.020 And it's true. 0.56

00:31:40.820 I mean, Liberia, all over Western Africa.

00:31:43.480 America, he created, you know, major, major problems and mass armies that killed all sorts

00:31:51.000 of innocent people, including, you know, villages of women and children reportedly in front of

00:31:56.620 him as these deals were going down.

00:31:58.940 So here is what NBC News reported, you know, because everybody's talking about the FBI or

00:32:05.200 the sorry, the Marine that we left behind, Waylon.

00:32:09.180 He has been left behind the White House.

00:32:13.700 Originally, this is what NBC reported.

00:32:17.540 Victor Boot, a Russian arms dealer who served 11 years of a 25 year sentence in the U.S.

00:32:22.120 But the official said this is a U.S.

00:32:24.580 senior U.S.

00:32:25.680 official said Russia treated Waylon differently because he's an accused spy.

00:32:32.900 And the Kremlin gave the White House the choice of either Greiner or Waylon or none.

00:32:39.180 OK, unfortunately, NBC changes that without announcing it, without announcing it, stealth

00:32:48.080 edit, OK, is accused by and the Kremlin ultimately gave the White House a choice of either Greiner

00:32:54.720 or no one after different options were proposed.

00:33:00.440 So why did they change this?

00:33:02.720 Why did they change it with Nancy Pelosi's husband?

00:33:09.280 NBC should have zero credibility in your world.

00:33:14.200 Zero.

00:33:15.060 We reached out to NBC because we'd like to have them be on record.

00:33:20.420 Why did they make the change to the story?

00:33:22.420 Why did they make it without an editorial note?

00:33:25.040 Did someone at the White House reach out to ask for the change?

00:33:28.480 Did the original source recant or stand by their initial claim?

00:33:32.760 Do you stand by that source and their credibility?

00:33:36.100 They haven't answered.

00:33:37.940 They just added their edit to their editorial correction.

00:33:41.700 An earlier version of this article misstated the choice of Biden administration was given

00:33:46.080 over the hostage. 0.86

00:33:47.380 It was a swap for Greiner or no one.

00:33:50.300 Not a choice between Greiner and Waylon.

00:33:52.760 Right.

00:33:53.340 Yeah.

00:33:54.200 Don't believe it.

00:33:55.080 Right.

00:33:55.220 This is the same place that's suspending reporters for accurate reports on the Pelosi incident.

00:34:00.900 Yeah.

00:34:01.140 The guy is still not.

00:34:02.140 We don't even.

00:34:03.020 They disappeared.

00:34:04.020 He disappeared.

00:34:04.960 I mean, I don't think anything.

00:34:06.420 He's probably on the beach someplace.

00:34:07.880 But where is he?

00:34:09.160 Where is he?

00:34:10.120 And why NBC is absolutely in the pocket for the White House?

00:34:17.380 They're well sourced, Glenn.

00:34:18.620 That's what they call it in the media.

00:34:20.120 We're well sourced.

00:34:21.440 Yeah.

00:34:21.980 We got it right from the horse's mouth.

00:34:23.740 Yeah.

00:34:23.840 And we reported exactly what they told us to say.

00:34:26.660 That's how this works.

00:34:27.740 Yavul.

00:34:28.700 They have contacts deep inside the government who tell them exactly what they should print.

00:34:35.900 And if they don't print it, they don't get the next scoop.

00:34:39.500 So there's nothing wrong with that.

00:34:40.760 And then I'll have all.

00:34:41.660 Oh, and there's a lot wrong with it.

00:34:43.040 And then, of course, they're also politically aligned.

00:34:45.240 So that makes it a lot easier.

00:34:46.600 You're going to go off.

00:34:47.580 You're going to go against the office of Goebbels.

00:34:50.520 Are you going to really do that?

00:34:51.760 I wouldn't.

00:34:52.780 I wouldn't.

00:34:53.420 I wouldn't do it.

00:34:54.220 I wouldn't do it.

00:34:55.640 All right.

00:34:56.640 Stand by.

00:34:57.380 More in a minute.

00:34:58.080 Bill O'Reilly coming up.

00:34:59.400 Also, we have a couple of other really great guests today.

00:35:03.020 We have Jefferson Morley.

00:35:05.940 He's the JFK facts editor at the Mary Farrell Foundation.

00:35:11.880 He's the vice president.

00:35:13.240 There were a trove of documents on JFK's assassination that may be released next week.

00:35:20.620 They all revolve around the connection of the CIA and the FBI to the guy who we all believe shot JFK.

00:35:40.840 Huh.

00:35:41.320 Wait a minute.

00:35:42.380 Huh.

00:35:42.620 Wait a minute.

00:35:43.880 We're now starting to get information out, possibly tomorrow, or I mean next week, that he was working for the CIA.

00:35:53.660 We get that at the top of hour number three.

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00:37:21.180 You know, I just love these stories.

00:37:34.800 I can't get enough of them.

00:37:36.580 Want to eat healthy and save the planet?

00:37:39.160 Replace beef with spirulina.

00:37:43.360 That's an algae. 0.73

00:37:44.900 And who doesn't want to have algae instead of a big, nice steak?

00:37:49.360 For every kilogram of beef replaced with a kilo of spirulina, nearly 100 kilograms of greenhouse gas emissions can be saved, as well as 340 square meters of land and 1,400 liters of water.

00:38:03.980 Isn't it spirulina?

00:38:05.540 I could be wrong.

00:38:06.560 I don't know.

00:38:06.980 I'm not up on my algae.

00:38:08.320 Right.

00:38:08.840 Okay.

00:38:09.280 How much algae do you consume on a day-to-day basis?

00:38:11.840 None.

00:38:12.260 None?

00:38:12.360 I'd have to say.

00:38:12.960 Nope.

00:38:13.480 I've never gone to a lake and said, let me just scoop some of that stuff off the top and eat away.

00:38:18.280 So you're on a low-algae diet.

00:38:19.620 I am.

00:38:20.180 Wow.

00:38:20.560 I am.

00:38:21.100 It doesn't sound good.

00:38:21.880 I'm a hater. 0.99

00:38:22.340 I will say, the coming regime wants you to eat some weird crap. 0.99

00:38:28.360 And we will be eating weird crap if these people take over. 0.99

00:38:31.700 I mean, this is serious. 0.99

00:38:32.880 A lot of bugs.

00:38:33.760 Yeah.

00:38:34.100 A lot of weird plants that you don't want to eat.

00:38:36.980 And it's all going to happen because of the youngins in our midst. 1.00

00:38:42.100 They are all terrified of global warming.

00:38:44.360 They believe this is absolutely going to kill everybody on the planet.

00:38:49.580 And they'll do what they have to do.

00:38:52.240 Concertgoers in Hamburg, Germany, had their evening interrupted.

00:38:57.160 They were going to hear the Philharmonic.

00:38:59.960 And apparently, a couple of people, they were environmentalists.

00:39:05.580 They love spirulina or whatever.

00:39:08.300 And they rushed on the stage to talk about the imminent demise of Earth at the hands of fossil fuels.

00:39:16.920 Oh, no.

00:39:17.080 And they glued themselves to the conductor's stand.

00:39:20.620 Okay.

00:39:21.280 And so they're standing on the conductor's stand.

00:39:22.960 And they've glued themselves to the little bar behind that.

00:39:26.080 And they say, we're standing here because we're all suppressing the climate catastrophe and thus robbing our children of the chance to live in safety and peace.

00:39:32.500 We all have the responsibility for coming generations.

00:39:35.380 If we do too little now, it means we share the blame for the biggest catastrophe that humanity has ever experienced.

00:39:40.240 Just as there is only one violin concerto by Beethoven, we also have this one planet.

00:39:45.840 And then they went on about how one of them wanted to have kids, but she was afraid to bring them up in a world that was on the brink of destruction.

00:39:54.320 Everybody was booing.

00:39:56.140 Security came out.

00:39:57.580 They didn't seem real concerned because they just grabbed onto the thing that they had glued themselves to and wheeled it offstage.

00:40:06.460 And the concert continued.

00:40:09.700 Yes.

00:40:11.620 Oh, I love it.

00:40:13.060 So good.

00:40:13.780 Just so good.

00:40:14.960 I love these stories.

00:40:16.160 This is a big thing now.

00:40:17.240 I know. 1.00

00:40:17.660 I've actually started a segment on Studios America called Idiots Gluing Themselves to Things. 1.00

00:40:21.900 Right. 1.00

00:40:22.300 Because it's just common.

00:40:24.200 This is what they're doing all the time now.

00:40:25.700 And I'm learning a lot about strategy.

00:40:28.300 One of the important things you got to do when you're gluing yourself to something is to make sure you're in a comfortable place.

00:40:33.920 Right?

00:40:34.060 Yes.

00:40:34.320 You're going to be there for a long time. 1.00

00:40:35.580 A lot of these idiots will do where they have to bend over. 1.00

00:40:38.660 So they have to hold a bent over position for hours and hours and hours. 1.00

00:40:41.920 No, you've got to get down, comfortable, maybe bring a pillow, glue yourself to the floor.

00:40:46.400 Not a movable object.

00:40:47.860 That's a new thing we're learning now.

00:40:49.540 This is so funny.

00:40:50.960 This is going to be a new class in colleges.

00:40:53.040 It's just so funny.

00:40:54.660 The thing had wheels underneath it, man.

00:40:57.100 It's so good. 1.00

00:40:57.940 You are so stupid. 1.00

00:40:59.320 Imagine how mad they were as they were slowly being wheeled off. 1.00

00:41:02.780 Oh, and how happy the audience is.

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00:41:09.320 To a certain extent.

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00:42:15.760 Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next.

00:42:20.540 Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next.

00:42:51.440 Mr. paneer.

00:42:53.300 Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next.

00:42:57.180 Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next.

00:43:02.020 Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up next.

00:43:04.980 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:43:14.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:20.640 Well, hello, America.

00:43:22.760 Bill O'Reilly, author of Killing the Killers, which is available everywhere, including BillOReilly.com for his website.

00:43:31.620 You can give gifts there, et cetera, et cetera.

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00:44:54.080 Mr. Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program, sir.

00:44:57.300 A lot to address today.

00:44:59.620 Yes, and first I want to thank you for giving my latest book, Killing the Legends, as well as Killing the Killers, to your staff for Christmas.

00:45:08.800 That was really nice.

00:45:09.900 Yes, of course we did that.

00:45:12.220 Yes, and I appreciate you autographing them and sending them each, you know, by name for each member of the staff for free.

00:45:22.660 It was my pleasure to do it for the comeback people.

00:45:26.900 Yes, there you go.

00:45:27.260 Well, thank you, Bill.

00:45:28.360 I think so great.

00:45:30.340 So, Bill, where do you want to start?

00:45:32.260 There's two stories, the Brittany Griner or the Twitter files.

00:45:36.100 Which do you want to take first?

00:45:37.240 Well, let's go with the Griner story first because there's a lot of unfairness surrounding this story.

00:45:45.120 I was watching Fox News, and I don't watch a lot of cable news much anymore because it's unbelievably repetitive.

00:45:52.660 It's just like the same thing every hour, you know.

00:45:56.120 He went, God.

00:45:57.620 But anyway, there were commentators on FNC that were going, oh, this is a terrible deal, terrible deal, terrible deal.

00:46:04.480 Okay, fine.

00:46:05.540 So you've always break these things down.

00:46:07.680 Number one, the United States and Biden have no power here at all.

00:46:13.020 None.

00:46:13.320 They go into a negotiation with no power.

00:46:15.920 It would be like me negotiating with Stu.

00:46:19.060 Stu doesn't have any power.

00:46:20.460 I mean, I just go in, and I run roughshod right over him.

00:46:23.280 It's very rude.

00:46:24.120 Very rude, especially around the holidays, Bill.

00:46:26.040 Yeah, I know, but you know it's true.

00:46:27.540 Of course.

00:46:27.980 So Putin holds all the power there in the negotiation because Putin doesn't care whether anybody lives or dies except Putin.

00:46:36.420 He doesn't care about Brittany Griner.

00:46:38.920 He doesn't care about the arms dealer.

00:46:41.240 Right.

00:46:41.620 He doesn't care about anybody.

00:46:42.560 So he's tweaking the United States, and he goes, okay, how can I embarrass Biden?

00:46:47.840 And here's how I can do it.

00:46:49.340 I can give somebody up who's in jail for a pot oil possession, and then I'm going to demand Satan in return.

00:47:00.960 Okay?

00:47:01.400 And that's pretty much what it was, right?

00:47:03.180 Right, right.

00:47:04.020 Okay.

00:47:04.620 So then, if you're going to negotiate at all, you've got to understand that the United States going in knew it was going to lose, had no power, nothing.

00:47:14.440 I say I would have made the deal because, number one, Satan, the arms dealer, had been incarcerated for 18 years.

00:47:25.540 I believe it was 11.

00:47:27.340 Well, wait a minute, 2008, God, my math, unbelievable.

00:47:31.220 Yeah.

00:47:31.500 So it'll be, what, 14 then, 14 years.

00:47:34.500 They grabbed him in Thailand in 2008. 0.83

00:47:37.180 I mean, and this guy is sincerely the devil.

00:47:39.780 Right.

00:47:40.240 So they grabbed him, and he's been in 14.

00:47:42.780 So it's not like he's not been punished.

00:47:45.740 And then the PR aspect for Biden voters is through the roof. 0.98

00:47:52.260 And because you have an African American who's gay and who likes marijuana. 0.99

00:47:56.520 I mean, that's like the profile for people who vote for Biden, right? 0.82

00:48:01.560 So Biden made the deal.

00:48:03.340 I would have made the deal on a humanitarian basis because you never would have gotten her out.

00:48:08.140 It's not like Biden on Christmas goes, you know, I'm going to grant pardons to people.

00:48:14.320 No, that's not what he does.

00:48:16.180 Right.

00:48:17.020 Okay.

00:48:17.400 Now, how do you feel about leaving the Marine behind?

00:48:19.880 Well, what do you mean leaving him behind?

00:48:21.640 We have no way to get him out.

00:48:24.000 Well, how are we going to get him out?

00:48:26.020 There's no way to do it.

00:48:27.080 I don't know.

00:48:27.100 We just gave the Soviet Union, you know, the early 2000s version of Hitler. 0.89

00:48:35.460 I don't know.

00:48:36.220 Yeah.

00:48:36.480 Look, you got this poor guy over there.

00:48:39.460 All right.

00:48:40.220 Putin doesn't need money.

00:48:41.640 He's a richest man in the world.

00:48:43.680 He can't buy him out.

00:48:45.280 But, again, Putin doesn't care whether anybody lives or dies, and he's holding a guy, you 0.70

00:48:50.840 know, hopefully he can use him some way to embarrass the United States.

00:48:55.500 Now, it was interesting to see that Trump couldn't get him out either, this Marine over there.

00:49:02.340 Well, Putin offered him the same deal, and he said no.

00:49:05.640 Well, it wasn't the same deal because Greiner wasn't...

00:49:08.660 No, no, no, not with Greiner, but for, you know, the...

00:49:13.780 I'm not sure that was true.

00:49:15.600 That's a report.

00:49:17.260 But I'm not...

00:49:18.160 That doesn't sound right to me.

00:49:21.180 And Pompeo has not confirmed that.

00:49:24.220 Okay.

00:49:24.620 Which is what I always look.

00:49:25.800 So, anyway, look, I'm glad the woman is back.

00:49:31.260 I hope she stops denigrating her country.

00:49:33.860 She was a big kneeler during the National Anthem.

00:49:36.500 But what I'd really like to see her do is go around and talk to kids about pot, marijuana. 1.00

00:49:41.560 I mean, I really would like to see her, you know...

00:49:43.440 I'm sure she would, you know, probably show the cannabis dealers that are available in

00:49:48.560 your own local market.

00:49:49.720 Oh, I see what you're going for.

00:49:51.920 Okay.

00:49:52.600 All right.

00:49:52.860 Do you want to go to Elon?

00:49:54.340 Yeah, let me go to Elon Musk.

00:49:56.060 Okay.

00:49:56.780 So, I wrote a column, and I'm sure you read it because, you know...

00:49:59.580 Elon shakes it up.

00:50:00.980 Yeah.

00:50:01.560 Very good, Beck.

00:50:02.640 Wow.

00:50:03.440 Elon shakes it up, BillOReilly.com.

00:50:05.900 And this is a great thing for America.

00:50:08.380 I mean, it really is an excellent thing.

00:50:10.240 It doesn't matter whether you like Elon Musk or not.

00:50:13.260 So, what he's basically done is said, look, I know, because I bought this company, how corrupt

00:50:20.020 this company is and was.

00:50:22.200 So, I fired 50% of the people who were engaging in the corruption.

00:50:27.380 They're already gone.

00:50:28.300 And now I'm going to embarrass the previous people by dripping out on terrible things that

00:50:36.480 Twitter did.

00:50:37.140 But the real importance of the story is that now the Republican House committees, which will

00:50:44.640 investigate the 2020 presidential election and its linkage to social media, will subpoena

00:50:53.560 all these people, including the FBI people.

00:50:55.720 I mean, that is a colossal advantage for people who want to know the truth.

00:51:03.720 Yeah, but do you really think...

00:51:05.720 I mean, see, I have such little faith in justice in America anymore that what is that going to

00:51:13.820 mean?

00:51:14.100 So, they sit in front of Congress and they tell the truth or don't tell the truth.

00:51:19.060 What's going to happen?

00:51:19.600 For the FBI, there could be charges, criminal charges, against those agents if they did

00:51:27.440 actively involve themselves in a presidential election.

00:51:31.500 So, that absolutely could happen.

00:51:34.180 Now, under the present regime, Biden regime, no, but there's a statute of limitations on it

00:51:40.380 extends past.

00:51:41.200 For the Twitter people, nobody's going to go to jail, nobody's going to get anything, but

00:51:46.040 what will happen is that the American people will know how bad the fix was in, and they

00:51:52.180 got to know this, because what people, American people, they know about 20% of really what

00:52:00.680 is happening to them.

00:52:03.640 They don't know the other 80%. 0.53

00:52:05.480 I'm not sure that that's even low enough, but I agree with you.

00:52:09.700 Yeah, but you know where I'm going.

00:52:11.380 Yeah, I do, I do.

00:52:12.080 So, we all walk around in a free society, and we think we know how our government is working

00:52:19.320 and how things evolve, and we don't.

00:52:25.160 And it's at a crisis level now, because it's easy to suppress a huge story like under Biden.

00:52:35.580 That was easy.

00:52:36.760 You know, I did an interview yesterday for my podcast that comes out Saturday.

00:52:42.460 It's out now on Blaze TV, but it was with the woman that was going to be the CEO of Levi's,

00:52:50.600 and she was the president of Levi's, and she started speaking out.

00:52:54.640 She was a big progressive, and she started speaking out against the school closings for

00:53:02.260 COVID early, early on, and Levi's was freaked out.

00:53:09.180 Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.

00:53:11.540 And they finally fired her, and she refused to take the money to remain silent because she 0.88

00:53:18.600 felt this was important to say.

00:53:19.880 And we were having a conversation yesterday that the truth is there if you want to see

00:53:28.920 it, but you have to be willing to see it.

00:53:31.880 You have to be willing to look for it and then stand up.

00:53:35.340 And we were talking about how does that happen?

00:53:38.800 If you go back to Germany, and I know you're a history buff.

00:53:41.320 You go back to Germany, there were two newspapers.

00:53:44.720 One was pro-fascism.

00:53:47.580 One was against fascism.

00:53:49.540 And it is said that you could read the two papers about the same event and would come to

00:53:56.540 a completely different conclusion after reading that one paper.

00:54:01.580 And people did not cross the streams.

00:54:04.820 They didn't read both, generally speaking.

00:54:07.200 We're in the same place.

00:54:08.980 What do we do?

00:54:09.860 People believe what they want to believe.

00:54:10.860 That's the real crisis in America.

00:54:13.800 So rather than being intellectually curious and actually seeking what is reality, what

00:54:19.300 is the truth, most of us do not do that anymore because that's difficult to do.

00:54:27.740 So it's much easier to just stand in line and believe what your friends believe.

00:54:33.620 And this is particularly true to the under 18, you know, this crew.

00:54:38.080 So if your high school is liberal, well, you're not going to go against that because then

00:54:43.520 you'll be isolated and you won't have social opportunities.

00:54:46.280 And the teachers are all lined up against you and, you know, it's like, that's a pretty

00:54:51.820 heavy burden for a kid.

00:54:53.720 And that's happening more and more and more and more.

00:54:57.280 I don't know whether you've picked up on this, but you really should, Beck.

00:55:00.500 And maybe we can talk about it next week.

00:55:02.080 I'm doing a Wednesday spot with News Nation with Chris Cuomo.

00:55:06.120 Did you know that?

00:55:06.940 Yes, I did.

00:55:07.440 OK, so I'm doing it for one reason only, because there is no debate anymore in cable

00:55:14.200 television, though what I did on the factor, what you did when you were on CNN and Fox,

00:55:19.320 that's gone because it's far too difficult for the hosts to basically study up on their

00:55:26.660 position to fight off another position.

00:55:29.560 They can't do it anymore.

00:55:30.740 So it's like, I think this, and let's bring on our first guest who thinks exactly like

00:55:36.940 I do.

00:55:37.920 That's the whole thing.

00:55:40.140 So Cuomo came to me and I said, yeah, I'll do it, but it's going to be debate.

00:55:45.240 I mean, I'm not going to let you stay your left-wing propaganda.

00:55:49.140 I'm going to swat you.

00:55:51.360 Or he goes, oh, I'm up for it.

00:55:53.680 OK.

00:55:55.320 So that's what we're doing.

00:55:57.100 And it's fascinating to see how, and Cuomo is an establishment Democrat.

00:56:05.840 That's what he is.

00:56:07.080 His family's always been that.

00:56:09.280 But in the reveal of the debate, you get what is being fed out from that crew.

00:56:17.540 And you see it like, oh, Joe Biden's not responsible for inflation.

00:56:23.580 Uh, what?

00:56:25.500 That kind of thing.

00:56:26.500 And I hit him last, uh, just a couple of days ago.

00:56:29.780 I said, when Trump was left off, inflation was 1.3%.

00:56:35.500 When he walked out the door and the answer was, but the seeds were sown.

00:56:43.060 I said, what?

00:56:45.800 This is insane.

00:56:48.040 He governed for four years.

00:56:50.820 Um, but that's what it is.

00:56:52.700 And then the Democrats, the people who voted for Warnock in, uh, Georgia, they go, yeah,

00:56:59.780 that's right.

00:57:01.020 It's not Biden's fault.

00:57:02.420 We're paying four times as much for everything.

00:57:04.760 The seeds were sown.

00:57:06.920 What is that?

00:57:09.200 It's just insane.

00:57:11.040 But that's what's happening in this country.

00:57:13.360 All right.

00:57:13.520 Hang on just a second.

00:57:14.340 We're back with Bill O'Reilly.

00:57:15.680 I want to ask you a final question about James Baker, the FBI agent, uh, not the other famous

00:57:21.840 James Baker.

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00:58:43.420 So I want to go back to the Twitter thing, and this is a disturbing to me.

00:58:47.720 There's a lot of FBI agents that are going from job to job.

00:58:53.600 All of them, all of these high ranking FBI officials are going into Google and Amazon and

00:59:02.560 Facebook and Twitter.

00:59:04.600 And one of them was James Baker.

00:59:06.680 James Baker is the guy that was the chief attorney for the FBI that introduced introduced the Alpha

00:59:17.360 Bank scandal.

00:59:19.720 He was, you know, not dissed for that.

00:59:25.280 He was the guy with Michael Sussman.

00:59:27.820 Um, and he left the FBI and then he went to Twitter.

00:59:33.300 He's also the guy now that helped suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:59:38.640 This last week, he intercepted the evidence to vet what was going to be released.

00:59:45.460 Uh, was it to take out the parts that the FBI, you know, was involved in with Twitter?

00:59:51.020 We're not sure.

00:59:52.560 Musk found out, fired James Baker.

00:59:55.580 Uh, and I'm not, I'm, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go right back to the FBI or to another,

01:00:01.900 uh, Facebook or Google or something like that.

01:00:05.120 Baker's part of the FBI swamp, Comey, McCabe, all of those people.

01:00:11.700 That's the club.

01:00:13.600 And the club hated Donald Trump from very beginning.

01:00:17.680 And the club decided to try to destroy Donald Trump.

01:00:22.340 This is within the FBI, this cabal.

01:00:25.600 Okay.

01:00:26.180 And this is absolutely the truth.

01:00:28.680 And maybe there were 10 or 15 of these people all based in DC.

01:00:33.720 And, uh, they started to run, uh, all of these illegal activities like the Russian collusion

01:00:42.180 thing.

01:00:42.700 And then they went branched out into social media.

01:00:45.600 And then, uh, when Biden got nominated, they said, we'll elect Biden.

01:00:49.940 Cause we hate Trump.

01:00:50.920 We couldn't stop him the first time we tried, but we couldn't now we'll stop on the second

01:00:55.240 time.

01:00:55.700 That's the overarching where James Baker lives.

01:00:59.100 Okay.

01:01:00.040 So it got too hot for him at the FBI.

01:01:03.220 And so he went to Twitter, his pals, his buddies, and they paid him a fortune and he moves out

01:01:09.940 to a Silicon Valley.

01:01:11.340 And then he is the chief suppressor of information that might hurt Joe Biden.

01:01:17.260 So he was in charge of that suppression.

01:01:20.680 And then, uh, when Musk took over, I, I don't think he knew that much should have called me.

01:01:26.640 Um, and then Baker's still there.

01:01:28.800 And now they tried to suppress what Musk was going to put out and finally must have caught

01:01:35.620 him and fired him.

01:01:36.640 So that's where we are.

01:01:37.960 So Baker's hot witness.

01:01:39.520 That's number one, when the judiciary committee goes in to probe whether or not the FBI injected

01:01:47.760 itself to get Joe Biden elected.

01:01:50.240 Did you, here's the story.

01:01:51.860 Did you see the, uh, uh, story about, um, hang on, let me see if I can find it here real quick.

01:01:59.240 Um, the story, uh, here it is, um, seven more Republicans vow to oppose Kevin McCarthy.

01:02:08.240 Um, and these are the house freedom caucus guys.

01:02:11.720 And one of their demands is to, uh, make a rule change that makes it easier to remove

01:02:17.560 the house speaker by allowing any lawmaker to offer a motion to vacate the chair.

01:02:21.840 Um, then they are also demanding that legislation must focus on a single topic, be publicly available

01:02:31.260 for 72 hours before a vote so that it can be read and receive a full debate with the ability

01:02:37.360 to offer and vote on amendments.

01:02:39.060 Now this, I guess is a big deal.

01:02:42.780 I think those are all very reasonable and only return us back to a deliberative body.

01:02:50.980 Am I wrong?

01:02:52.400 I, I don't think you're wrong back up, but you know, me, I, I idolize at the, uh, at the

01:02:58.060 foot of Glenn Beck.

01:03:00.100 So I, I'm not objective there when you ask me wrong.

01:03:03.400 Cause I got my knee, you know, it's like, no, Beck's never wrong. 1.00

01:03:06.400 Oh, you're such a jerk. 1.00

01:03:08.560 Look, all McCarthy has to say is, look, yeah, I like those things. 1.00

01:03:12.960 That's what I could do.

01:03:14.740 Yeah.

01:03:15.180 Oh yeah.

01:03:16.100 I want, look, who, who opposes reading, reading, um, uh, legislation.

01:03:21.200 Right.

01:03:21.920 So McCarthy goes, yeah, that's a great idea.

01:03:23.620 We'll do that. 0.99

01:03:24.200 And yeah, you want to, uh, file a motion that I'm an idiot anytime you want. 0.99

01:03:30.100 Sure. 0.99

01:03:30.580 Go ahead.

01:03:31.640 And then it's over.

01:03:32.500 McCarthy's going to be the speaker.

01:03:33.760 I don't even bother with this politics stuff.

01:03:36.460 It's just annoying to me.

01:03:37.540 I wish, uh, more people would pay attention to that cause that's very reasonable.

01:03:42.500 And we should be demanding that Bill O'Reilly from billoreilly.com. 0.97

01:03:46.260 Get your copy of killing the killers.

01:03:48.340 And he's got Christmas specials.

01:03:49.980 You'll find everything at billoreilly.com.

01:03:53.940 Thanks, Bill.

01:03:54.620 Talk to you next week.

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01:05:21.200 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:05:33.540 It is Friday.

01:05:36.920 Mitt Romney yesterday voiced his support for a carbon tax in order to help combat climate

01:05:42.780 change.

01:05:43.520 So we got that going for us.

01:05:45.400 Yeah.

01:05:45.660 And remember, Romney runs again in 2024.

01:05:50.960 The problem, of course, is he's he there's no way to change that.

01:05:54.740 I mean, he's he's got the nomination already.

01:05:57.220 He's running.

01:05:57.740 No, he's running again.

01:05:59.280 So he would have to win a primary.

01:06:00.980 He know he just have to run and then lose in the primary.

01:06:05.640 No.

01:06:06.940 Well, in the primary.

01:06:07.840 Yeah, I guess you would.

01:06:08.660 Somebody would have to.

01:06:09.420 Yeah.

01:06:09.960 Yeah.

01:06:10.160 Yeah.

01:06:10.340 I think he's going to lose to the Democrat.

01:06:11.740 Yeah.

01:06:11.940 Yeah.

01:06:12.200 I think he's going to be a Republican because I think he'll lose to both.

01:06:14.840 He may.

01:06:16.180 I will say this is the type of race that conservatives should be focusing on.

01:06:22.500 Look, Susan Collins is Susan Collins. 1.00

01:06:25.780 We know she kind of sucks. 1.00

01:06:27.880 She's also in Maine. 0.99

01:06:29.880 And, you know, maybe that's the best we can do in Maine right now.

01:06:33.860 We got to work long term to make sure we change the minds of people who live in Maine.

01:06:37.500 And maybe a lot of people need to move to Maine that are more sane than the typical people

01:06:41.280 who are in Maine.

01:06:42.160 I love you, Maine.

01:06:42.920 But you know what I'm talking about.

01:06:43.820 Uh, everyone in Maine is like, yeah, no, I know.

01:06:46.340 I live right around all those people.

01:06:47.780 But like Susan Collins might be as good as we can do in Maine.

01:06:51.700 I can tell you this.

01:06:52.920 Mitt Romney is not as good as we could do in Utah.

01:06:56.660 No.

01:06:57.520 We can do much, much better in Utah.

01:07:00.640 We can have an actual conservative in Utah.

01:07:03.600 But he is.

01:07:04.220 We do have an actual conservative in Utah.

01:07:06.780 His name is Mike Lee.

01:07:07.740 No, but this conservative, real, deep conservative, believes in a carbon tax.

01:07:12.280 A carbon tax.

01:07:14.980 Yeah.

01:07:15.580 So that's going to be good.

01:07:16.340 Those words come through.

01:07:18.040 A carbon tax.

01:07:20.780 Something proposed by Barack Obama that couldn't get through.

01:07:26.240 Now, he, of course, famously lost to Barack Obama.

01:07:29.760 At that time, he was saying a carbon tax was a bad idea.

01:07:33.720 No, now it's a good idea.

01:07:34.460 Now it's a good idea.

01:07:36.400 Everyone in Utah should be thinking about who.

01:07:39.240 Look around your community.

01:07:41.020 Sean Reyes.

01:07:41.740 Sean Reyes.

01:07:41.760 Sean Reyes.

01:07:42.220 It seems like he would be.

01:07:43.280 Sean Reyes.

01:07:44.160 He's not announced a run.

01:07:45.300 We should be clear.

01:07:46.500 Ah, yeah.

01:07:47.240 I'm sure he has.

01:07:48.160 I don't think he has.

01:07:49.020 I'm pretty sure he.

01:07:49.500 He would be a pretty good candidate, though.

01:07:51.120 I will tell you.

01:07:51.740 Here's a guy who's been.

01:07:52.840 I'm drafting him.

01:07:53.720 Yes, he's already announced.

01:07:55.280 You know, I don't think that's how this works exactly.

01:07:57.960 But he, this is a guy who's fought a lot of really important battles that maybe you

01:08:01.980 haven't heard about.

01:08:02.640 I don't know.

01:08:02.960 How familiar are people in Utah of Sean Reyes?

01:08:05.960 Oh, I think a well-known figure there.

01:08:07.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:07.800 We know him because we run in very nerdy circles.

01:08:10.880 Circles, yeah.

01:08:11.440 We know the attorney generals.

01:08:13.180 Right.

01:08:13.600 Yeah.

01:08:13.960 We've interviewed like 80 of them.

01:08:15.760 There's only 50 states.

01:08:16.800 We've interviewed 80 of them somehow.

01:08:18.640 But like, you know, Sean Reyes stands out as one of the best in the country.

01:08:21.960 Yeah.

01:08:22.360 And he seems like, to me at least, to be a really good candidate to go in there and

01:08:29.240 defeat Mitt Romney in a primary.

01:08:31.300 It would be amazing to have a partner to Mike Lee, one that understands the Constitution,

01:08:36.900 and then the other guy who's known as a fighter that just goes in and just

01:08:43.540 bulldozes and knows how to get things done.

01:08:46.500 It would be nice to have those two.

01:08:48.140 Or you can have your carbon tax with Mitt Romney.

01:08:51.820 I want to talk a little bit about the energy department official, who we all know as Sam Brinton.

01:09:03.200 They, them, by the way, those are his pronouns.

01:09:06.260 Oh, did I say his?

01:09:07.520 Those are their pronouns.

01:09:09.180 And he has, he's already been, you know, put on hiatus from the energy department because

01:09:20.100 he stole a woman's suitcase.

01:09:22.700 He went to the airport, got onto a plane, didn't check any luggage, then went, got some luggage,

01:09:31.020 looked at the tag, ripped the tag off, and left.

01:09:35.980 Well, he's done it again.

01:09:36.880 That's a one-time thing.

01:09:37.560 No, he's, no, he's done it again.

01:09:39.300 Oh, no.

01:09:39.960 No, he's done it again.

01:09:41.220 You mean they've done it again?

01:09:42.440 They've done it again.

01:09:44.040 I wonder which one of them is the mastermind.

01:09:47.500 Ah, maybe that's the thing.

01:09:48.800 Maybe you could just, can you blame the other gender? 1.00

01:09:50.700 It wasn't me, it was them.

01:09:51.860 If you're gender fluid, can you say, actually, that was the male me who did that?

01:09:56.200 And you're currently talking to the female me, which you cannot imprison for that charge.

01:09:59.780 Exactly right.

01:10:00.580 Exactly right.

01:10:01.300 So, he's done it again, and they've asked, now the Republicans, because they're so extremist,

01:10:08.260 they have called for Britton to step down, and, you know, it's just because of his pronouns.

01:10:16.960 I'm sure that's the only reason.

01:10:19.420 Well, there's also this.

01:10:20.500 This is from the website lgbtqnation.com.

01:10:26.780 My homepage.

01:10:28.020 Has Sam Britton's story always been too good to be true?

01:10:33.300 Yes.

01:10:33.700 Sam Britton, listen to this.

01:10:35.740 Listen, this is amazing.

01:10:36.900 This is from an LGBTQ person.

01:10:39.240 A non-binary LGBTQ plus activist, an outspoken opponent of conversion therapy, has been charged

01:10:47.680 with felony theft.

01:10:49.440 They allegedly stole a woman's suitcase worth $2,325 from Carousel, Minneapolis Airport.

01:10:56.980 He's a nuclear expert at the Department of Energy before being suspended from their duties.

01:11:02.580 Has a December 19th hearing.

01:11:04.620 They face up to five years of imprisonment, criminal case, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:09.380 The writer goes on to say, Sam Britton burst onto the scene October 1st, 2010, in a riveting

01:11:15.400 two-part interview with I'm from Driftwood.

01:11:19.300 They revealed the most shocking.

01:11:20.980 I remember.

01:11:21.660 We all remember where we were when that two-part interview came out, and it was riveting.

01:11:26.620 Well, I'm from Driftwood.

01:11:27.400 As riveting as Avatar.

01:11:28.580 Yeah.

01:11:29.780 Wait.

01:11:30.880 It revealed the most shocking conversion story activists had heard since the 1960s.

01:11:35.980 It involved Britton coming out to their parents at the age of 11, and their father reacting

01:11:43.200 with a swift punch to their face.

01:11:46.180 My dad just started punching. 0.95

01:11:47.700 It was the first day that I was sent to the emergency room because I had fallen down the

01:11:52.260 stairs.

01:11:53.080 I was sent to the emergency room about six more times from falling down the stairs or tripping

01:11:57.700 on the sidewalk.

01:11:58.420 I'm in this constant state of fear, he claimed.

01:12:01.840 They claimed.

01:12:02.980 My dad also held a gun up to my head multiple times.

01:12:07.600 Britton says that he was then sent to a cruel and sadistic Florida conversion therapist who

01:12:15.280 they saw for two or three years.

01:12:17.960 Although, the author points out, his timeline periodically changes depending on the media interview.

01:12:24.580 Britton alleges this practitioner used aversion therapy, which includes sessions where they

01:12:30.000 were tortured with extreme heat, ice, and needles.

01:12:33.820 We then went into the mouth of hell, he alleged, or the month of hell.

01:12:39.820 The month of hell consisted of tiny needles being stuck into my fingers, and then pictures

01:12:44.800 of explicit acts between men would be shown, and I would be electrocuted.

01:12:49.580 Wow.

01:12:50.300 Yeah, it's quite a...

01:12:51.080 That is a riveting tale.

01:12:52.200 Yeah, that happened.

01:12:53.000 Boy, we need to get that...

01:12:54.240 We need to get that conversion...

01:12:55.840 Arrests need to be made immediately.

01:12:56.840 Arrested.

01:12:57.460 Well, that's what this particular LGBTQ person was saying, because she's one of the activists

01:13:05.880 that try to stop conversion therapy, and this is really, really bad.

01:13:12.080 Um, and there's more to it, but I'm just going to leave it in.

01:13:17.960 As an LGBTQ plus activist fighting against conversion therapy with my organization, Truth

01:13:23.600 Wins Out, and the author of Anything But Straight, I'm Asking Lies, blah, blah, blah,

01:13:27.880 blah, I had hoped to work with Britton to expose the harm of conversion therapy.

01:13:32.420 I excitedly reached out to Britton, and they were oddly inaccessible, communicating indirectly

01:13:38.340 through an intermediary in the Boston area.

01:13:42.080 Yeah, it's weird.

01:13:42.800 Yeah.

01:13:44.240 I just asked a simple question.

01:13:46.400 Who was your conversion therapist, and in which facility did the therapy occur?

01:13:52.700 Seemed like pretty critical questions, and the answers would be critical.

01:13:59.420 First, to share Britton's story, we had to verify if it was true.

01:14:03.060 Second, Britton's testimony involved a torture center where hideous abuses were presumably

01:14:07.900 still occurring against children at least as young as 11.

01:14:15.740 Well, he was unavailable to comment, and that, you know, that was weird that nobody else was

01:14:27.260 reporting this, and he wouldn't say that.

01:14:30.600 Then he said he's not able to comment because when he tries to dig in deeper to the memories

01:14:40.600 of that time, I simply don't have his name.

01:14:43.860 I can picture him clear as a day in my nightmares, but his name is not there.

01:14:49.920 Wow.

01:14:50.920 Wow.

01:14:51.780 So he was in a very fragile state.

01:14:56.420 So why is he going around different media places and different legislatures, lawmakers,

01:15:03.100 and what were they, were they exploiting him, putting his mental health at risk?

01:15:11.660 She writes, to believe Britton, one would have to suspend reality and buy the explanation

01:15:16.560 that they couldn't recall the name of the therapist.

01:15:19.900 For over two years, I sat on a couch and endured emotionally painful sessions.

01:15:24.560 Does this even sound plausible, or is Britton more concerned about keeping their story unverifiable?

01:15:30.240 Also, one wonders how Britton can recall vibrant, unusually specific details about the therapy

01:15:36.740 experience, but not the identity of the therapist.

01:15:40.260 One striking instance, Britton told NBC News there were seven King James Bibles on a stack

01:15:47.660 on a coffee table.

01:15:50.060 I checked with a top expert, Conversion Therapy in Orlando region.

01:15:54.260 He said that no known conversion office in a strip mall existed.

01:15:58.960 He was talking about that during the years that Britton attended therapy.

01:16:03.580 After the airport incident, I called Britton's mother, Peggy Jo Britton.

01:16:09.140 She told me her child had attended therapy, but it was not conversion therapy.

01:16:15.520 She refused to provide the name of the mystery counselor, but added, I do love Sam dearly.

01:16:21.840 For the record, she also denied that Sam was physically abused or attempted suicide.

01:16:26.280 Of course, let's not deny there's compelling interest in refuting these serious allegations.

01:16:31.300 Exactly right.

01:16:32.360 Britton said, I can picture him as clearly as a day in my nightmares every day.

01:16:38.140 If that's true, she writes, why hasn't Britton tried to identify this monster by finding his

01:16:44.180 picture online?

01:16:45.560 After all, how many conversion therapists are there in Orlando?

01:16:49.080 Have they ever reached out to experts in the region to help find this abomination who is 1.00

01:16:56.360 presumably still preying on children?

01:16:59.340 Other holes in his story have emerged.

01:17:01.500 In some versions, Britton claims that they went to a Florida therapist.

01:17:06.120 Yet the Des Moines Register reports that they began a series of out-of-state treatments.

01:17:12.960 Which is it?

01:17:14.420 He also reports, Sam specifies this according to LGBTQ Nation, Sam specifies their counselor

01:17:23.000 was a religious therapist and not a doctor.

01:17:25.700 Yet Britton penned in 2014 for the National Center for Lesbian Rights, they described their

01:17:31.240 counselor as a psychotherapist.

01:17:33.340 The same year, they told the UN's Committee Against Torture in Switzerland, when I was a

01:17:38.760 child, a licensed psychotherapist tried and failed to change something I never chose.

01:17:44.420 So when Britton was trying to specifically ban licensed conversion therapists from practicing,

01:17:50.400 they suddenly upgraded the credentials of their mystery therapist.

01:17:54.940 Interesting.

01:17:56.380 This story goes on.

01:17:57.840 And what her point is, is that he has discredited the LGBTQ community, and everyone in the community

01:18:07.260 knew that there were problems with his story, but they just wanted to believe.

01:18:15.400 They wanted it to be true so badly.

01:18:16.700 They needed it to be true.

01:18:18.600 That always is.

01:18:19.720 And everybody out there, right or left, should check your bias when you go into a story.

01:18:24.680 When a story seems too good to be true, make sure it's not because you want it to be true

01:18:28.480 so much.

01:18:29.120 I feel like we do that all the time.

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01:18:45.980 Me, I'm a radio guy.

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01:18:55.120 I know the ins and outs.

01:18:56.300 I can get the job done.

01:18:57.840 I can't say right, but I can get the job done.

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01:20:01.760 So, you know, we're talking about how everything falls apart at the end.

01:20:24.240 Madonna, she's now 64 years old, and she's got new video out of her taken by her or somebody,

01:20:36.080 I don't know, in bondage gear and biting down on a writing crop.

01:20:41.660 Now, I've always wanted to picture grandma like that, and thank you, Madonna, for providing

01:20:47.440 those images for us.

01:20:50.100 She's 64 years old.

01:20:51.520 This is what's so sad about this, is these people don't have anything else but their image.

01:20:58.180 They don't have anything else but this fake world that they created.

01:21:05.200 Gravity always wins.

01:21:06.300 Yeah.

01:21:06.800 So, now they're left with nothing, and as the image starts to go away, and you are no

01:21:15.720 longer that, you try desperately anything that will get you back into that party.

01:21:24.160 And in Madonna's case, how many times did it work? 0.56

01:21:27.460 It worked so many times where she would, quote unquote, reinvent herself and get back into

01:21:32.260 the public eye.

01:21:33.920 You know, she'd do the thing with Britney Spears. 1.00

01:21:35.640 You know, she was, had to be in her 40s then, right?

01:21:39.180 Yep.

01:21:39.980 And she kept figuring out ways to get back into the public eye. 1.00

01:21:44.460 It's not going to work.

01:21:44.920 And you see her keep trying it.

01:21:46.180 It's really sad and awful.

01:21:47.100 It's very sad.

01:21:48.600 Awful.

01:21:49.080 Very sad.

01:21:49.580 And she looks, I don't know, it doesn't look like the same person.

01:21:52.060 No.

01:21:52.420 She's not, she does not look just older, which of course we expect with everybody.

01:21:56.920 That's what happens in life.

01:21:58.140 She's tried to fight that process, fighting gravity, which again, always wins.

01:22:02.480 But she also just looks totally different, like a different person.

01:22:06.160 She's having almost the Michael Jackson thing happen. 0.95

01:22:08.140 Yeah.

01:22:08.380 Where like you can't even recognize them from their younger years.

01:22:11.500 And it is, it's tragically, tragically sad.

01:22:14.940 And this is going to happen with so many people all around the world that are, and I don't

01:22:22.860 mean just in facial surgery or whatever, they're putting all of their eggs into the basket of

01:22:31.060 me, me, me, or image.

01:22:32.660 That's why you're so inspiring.

01:22:33.600 You're just letting yourself go.

01:22:34.580 The Glenn Beck Program.

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01:23:29.600 Stand up.

01:23:30.560 I want to take you back, just a few years, back to 1992.

01:23:37.180 There was the President John F. Kennedy Records Collection Act of 1992.

01:23:43.380 This was to secure the release of all of the records relating to the assassination of John

01:23:49.760 F.

01:23:50.000 Kennedy in 1962 or 63?

01:23:54.300 62, wasn't it?

01:23:55.840 Or 63.

01:23:57.360 Anyway, when he was assassinated, they sealed all of these records.

01:24:02.520 1992 comes along, the records are 30 years old, and they're like, okay, come on, let's release these.

01:24:09.140 They worked hard to get the information out.

01:24:12.880 However, at the time, most assassination records being 30 years old, Congress stipulated,

01:24:21.620 only in the rarest of occasions is there any legitimate need for continued protection they should be released.

01:24:30.160 The Review Board anticipated, as Congress mandated, that all postponed information,

01:24:36.660 anything that had been redacted, need to be open to the public no later than 2017.

01:24:43.120 Okay, so 1963, 1992, all the way to 2017, this is still not being released, even though, by law, it's supposed to be.

01:25:02.160 Okay, what are they hiding that 60 years later needs to be protected?

01:25:09.140 We might have an answer, because next week, these documents are supposed to be released.

01:25:18.060 Will they be?

01:25:19.380 And what do they hide?

01:25:21.060 Jefferson Morley, the JFK Facts editor, joins us in 60 seconds.

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01:26:39.560 Hello, Jefferson.

01:26:40.180 How are you, sir?

01:26:41.200 I'm very good.

01:26:42.180 Thanks for having me.

01:26:43.460 I am thrilled to have you on.

01:26:45.780 I don't understand what it is that they are still protecting after 60 years.

01:26:54.460 Well, there's the big picture and there's the little picture.

01:26:57.880 The big picture is there's about 16,000 U.S. government documents that contain some redactions

01:27:04.700 ranging from a word, a name, to a paragraph, to a whole page.

01:27:08.580 16,000 different documents, most of those held by the CIA and FBI.

01:27:13.060 So some portion of those will be released next week.

01:27:18.500 And then very specifically, people ask me, people at the Mary Farrell Foundation, at the

01:27:24.020 JFK Facts substack where I write, what are they hiding specifically?

01:27:30.660 And what they're hiding is what they've hidden all along, which is the interest of CIA officers

01:27:37.460 in Lee Harvey Oswald, the man who was accused of killing Kennedy, the interest in him before

01:27:43.640 President Kennedy was killed.

01:27:45.440 That's the story that's here.

01:27:47.760 It's a very sensitive story, and the CIA is loathed to surrender.

01:27:51.460 Okay, so hang on just a second.

01:27:52.920 It is not necessarily that the CIA contracted him to kill Kennedy.

01:27:59.440 It's that the CIA was involved with him three months before and had him running operations

01:28:07.180 for them, right?

01:28:08.800 They were using him for intelligence purposes, what's called psychological warfare, which

01:28:14.520 can mean a wide variety of things.

01:28:17.580 But from the available record, what we see is that we see what's called a COINTELPRO style

01:28:25.260 operation.

01:28:26.000 You know what COINTELPRO is?

01:28:27.600 Explain it for the listeners.

01:28:29.500 So COINTELPRO was a joint CIA-FBI program, which was in effect from the late 50s to the

01:28:36.780 early 70s.

01:28:37.680 And under COINTELPRO, the FBI or the CIA would secretly use tactics to harass, disrupt, destroy

01:28:48.020 groups that were considered subversive.

01:28:50.660 Leftist, you know, Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Socialist Workers

01:28:56.840 Party, served leftist groups that were officially considered subversive.

01:29:01.740 FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton.

01:29:06.940 They wanted to suppress these groups, harass them, get rid of them.

01:29:09.920 And so what seems to have been going on was a CIA operation against an organization called

01:29:16.700 the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, a leftist group to which Oswald belonged.

01:29:21.660 That's where he was being used for intelligence purposes.

01:29:26.300 You know, is this operation evidence of a conspiracy?

01:29:31.920 You know, we don't know.

01:29:33.140 It might be just incompetence.

01:29:34.980 You know, maybe they ran an operation and then this guy Oswald up and shot the president.

01:29:39.380 That part we can't tell without getting all of the records.

01:29:42.420 But something's going on here and what they're hiding is their pre-assassination interest in

01:29:48.220 Oswald.

01:29:49.960 Does it does it strike you as we are living the same kind of history right now?

01:29:58.780 Well, tell me more about, you know, the comparison.

01:30:03.700 We have the CIA and FBI involved in all kinds of things, like at Twitter, to silence people,

01:30:11.920 to go after groups.

01:30:14.260 The FBI is being used as a weapon.

01:30:17.740 The intelligence departments are also being used as as weapons.

01:30:23.840 And it's OK.

01:30:26.020 I mean, I mean, if we're talking about the January 6th insurrection, I know.

01:30:31.000 The FBI and CIA response has been not inappropriate.

01:30:36.060 So, yeah, no, I'm not I'm not talking about the January 6th.

01:30:38.720 I'm talking about things that have been going on for a while.

01:30:42.340 Just even look at what was released with Twitter and the FBI's involvement in Twitter and the

01:30:48.660 Hunter Biden laptop, et cetera, et cetera.

01:30:51.240 I mean, I don't know how the Hunter Biden laptop story is relevant to the JFK story.

01:30:56.480 I do know what I'm talking about here.

01:30:58.560 And, you know, I don't want the JFK story to get wrapped up in contemporary politics.

01:31:04.160 The people who want the truth from the government on this issue are from the left, left people

01:31:11.000 like me, people in the center, people who support President Trump across the political spectrum.

01:31:16.460 There's wide support for this.

01:31:18.240 So I don't want to get involved in a polemic about Hunter Biden's laptop.

01:31:21.740 And this is just like that.

01:31:23.680 The JFK story is unique in and of itself.

01:31:26.020 I want to focus on that because it's a very important story that we're coming to see.

01:31:30.820 I guess I.

01:31:31.940 Yeah, I, I understand your point of view, and I agree with you.

01:31:35.860 It's smart to do that.

01:31:37.180 I actually I didn't mean it to I didn't mean it to pull you into politics, but I guess it

01:31:42.920 was it was a question.

01:31:44.420 Well, I mean, it's a fair question.

01:31:46.580 Yeah, it's a fair question.

01:31:47.720 Yeah.

01:31:47.900 But I think it's it's a little bit of a sideshow and I'd rather talk about something we agree

01:31:53.880 about rather than something we understand.

01:31:56.240 So what is it that you're looking for that will be possibly released or held?

01:32:01.880 Um, the we're looking at the personnel files of CIA officers who knew about Oswald before

01:32:11.240 the assassination, and these remain classified.

01:32:14.740 So we're trying to understand how CIA operations worked in 1963.

01:32:19.240 And the documents that we're seeking are known, they have been identified by the CIA as concerning

01:32:26.300 things like intelligence methods, cover, travel.

01:32:31.020 And this, I think, will give more detail to what was going on with the CIA officers and

01:32:35.720 Oswald in the course of 1963.

01:32:39.960 Do you have any doubt that Oswald did it and did it for his own personal desires?

01:32:47.480 Uh, yes, I do.

01:32:50.460 I don't think that Lee Harvey Oswald was the intellectual author of Kennedy's death.

01:32:55.880 I don't think that.

01:32:57.600 I might have fired a gun.

01:32:59.360 I think he knew what was going on, but he was not.

01:33:02.100 This was bigger than Oswald.

01:33:04.000 And I think that the the records that we're seeking will shed light on this was did Oswald

01:33:11.080 slip past all these CIA guys who were paying close attention to him in the summer and fall

01:33:17.460 of 1963, or was there something else going on where people were actually manipulating

01:33:22.360 Oswald to make him be what he said he was, a patsy?

01:33:26.380 And what was the CIA's motivation?

01:33:31.960 You know, I think that we need to understand the depth of hostility to the Kennedy presidency

01:33:40.600 in the upper levels of the Pentagon and the CIA in 1963.

01:33:44.580 I think that there were people who were very afraid of Kennedy's policies on Vietnam and

01:33:49.240 Cuba and regarded them as a threat to national security, a danger that had to be dealt with,

01:33:55.660 you know, by extreme means.

01:33:58.200 That's, you know, that's my opinion.

01:34:02.740 There is other interpretations.

01:34:04.700 That's why we need to see all the records.

01:34:06.640 But yeah, that's my best guess.

01:34:07.940 OK, so you you also wrote the book and just released the book on the what is it?

01:34:13.520 The Scorpion Scorpion's Dance.

01:34:16.240 Yeah.

01:34:16.520 Yeah.

01:34:16.820 About the CIA and Watergate.

01:34:18.940 Correct.

01:34:19.560 Can you go into that just a little bit?

01:34:22.160 So Scorpion's Dance tells the story of the very complex relationship between President

01:34:27.320 Richard Nixon, 35th president, and Richard Helms, the eighth director of the CIA.

01:34:33.560 These men were both, you know, very powerful men from the mid 1950s to the mid 1970s.

01:34:40.680 Helms as a rising officer and eventually director of the CIA and Nixon as, you know, vice president,

01:34:48.580 as a lawyer, super lawyer and as president.

01:34:51.980 So they have this very complex relationship because they're very, very different men.

01:34:58.540 Nixon, this humble striver from the West Coast.

01:35:01.340 Helms is the very picture of an East Coast, you know, aristocrat.

01:35:05.460 But they managed to get along through Nixon's first term and then comes Watergate.

01:35:11.220 And so their relationship is tested because all of those Watergate burglars worked for 0.67

01:35:16.520 the CIA or six of the seven.

01:35:19.360 Right.

01:35:19.460 So, so the book examines sort of what, how, how Watergate culminated in these two men's

01:35:26.120 career, how it erupted and how they really, they were both brought down by it.

01:35:32.400 Nixon was forced to resign and Helms eventually was forced to plead guilty to obstructing Congress.

01:35:38.960 And it was the only CIA director ever convicted of a crime.

01:35:42.940 So, Scorpion's Dance is the story of those two men, Nixon and Helms.

01:35:47.900 So out of that came the church commission, right?

01:35:51.800 Right.

01:35:52.700 And have we effectively cleaned it out?

01:35:57.720 Is, is the oversight there?

01:36:00.560 Because this, you know, when you have unchecked spooky kind of power, it's good and it can

01:36:07.620 be bad.

01:36:09.040 And you're not sure how, you know, most people don't even know who the head of the CIA is

01:36:15.100 right now.

01:36:16.020 Right.

01:36:17.080 You know, the church committee was the first effort of Congress to kind of rein in the CIA,

01:36:21.940 cut their budget, hold them accountable.

01:36:23.580 Um, that's when the Senate and House Intelligence Committees were created and sort of the knowledge

01:36:30.760 of what was going on in the world of intelligence was distributed a little more widely in the

01:36:35.400 Washington leadership.

01:36:36.480 It wasn't just concentrated in the CIA director.

01:36:39.980 Now there's what's called the gang of eight, which is the House and Senate leadership.

01:36:44.100 The eight top officials in Congress are also have the, are cleared to see any covert operations

01:36:52.400 that's being undertaken by the U.S.

01:36:54.120 government.

01:36:54.640 Now we don't, that system of oversight is not very strong.

01:36:59.680 It's been divided on, um, you know, partisan lines in recent years.

01:37:04.800 And I mean, yes, we do not have strong oversight of the intelligence committee community.

01:37:11.480 And that's a problem.

01:37:12.800 Um, Jefferson, will you do me a favor?

01:37:15.700 If something comes out next week, when is this supposed to be released?

01:37:20.300 Well, um, the deadline set by President Biden last year is December 15th.

01:37:26.100 So next Thursday, we expect that the archives will start depositing.

01:37:32.840 Who's the biggest obstructor of this?

01:37:35.420 Is it the CIA?

01:37:37.060 By far.

01:37:37.780 About, about 80% of the remaining documents that have redactions are CIA documents.

01:37:44.240 So they are the agency that is most aggressive in asking for discontinued secrecy.

01:37:50.120 And Trump tried to get it released.

01:37:53.380 Biden says it needs to be released.

01:37:56.080 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:37:57.160 Actually, that's, that's wrong.

01:37:58.840 And Trump said it should be released, said it was released.

01:38:03.680 Unfortunately, he lied.

01:38:05.400 And he caved to the CIA in December 17th.

01:38:09.860 Wow.

01:38:10.360 And he kept the can down the road four years, um, to Biden.

01:38:14.160 So Biden got the question last year, what do we do with these JFK documents?

01:38:17.800 And the CIA and the federal agency said, the COVID dog ate my homework.

01:38:23.480 You know, we couldn't do it because of the pandemic.

01:38:25.600 Right.

01:38:25.760 So Biden said, okay, you have another year.

01:38:28.060 So now we're at Biden's second deadline.

01:38:30.360 So, okay, well, I, I, go ahead.

01:38:35.460 Biden acquiesced.

01:38:36.660 And now hopefully Biden will do the right thing.

01:38:39.080 Okay.

01:38:39.660 Uh, Jefferson Morley.

01:38:40.760 Thank you so much.

01:38:41.600 Uh, and, uh, if there's something in there, I'd love to talk to you again, uh, about what

01:38:46.640 you find.

01:38:47.280 Thank you.

01:38:47.980 We'll be in touch.

01:38:48.640 You bet.

01:38:49.000 Take care.

01:38:49.180 Bye-bye.

01:38:50.780 Back in just a second.

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01:40:06.020 I, uh, I appreciate his, uh, viewpoint as a historian, uh, and as a historian, he doesn't

01:40:23.860 want to tie it, uh, to days, uh, today's events.

01:40:29.260 And as a historian, I understand that.

01:40:31.540 Yeah.

01:40:31.720 He's going to stay out of that stuff.

01:40:32.680 Um, um, uh, however, if you can't see the correlation here, if you can't see that these

01:40:42.260 agencies are once again out of control, um, it history only matters when it informs decisions

01:40:52.060 that are being made today.

01:40:53.820 You use history to say, yes, this is possible.

01:40:59.060 This isn't conspiracy because that's what has been said for the last 70 years since the

01:41:07.220 OSS and CIA became an entity.

01:41:10.720 These kinds of things have happened over and over and over again.

01:41:14.800 And we don't have a protective wall to protect the American people and to protect the truth.

01:41:21.200 There is no way to get the truth from these people.

01:41:23.760 Yeah, I agree.

01:41:25.140 You know, that's what they say.

01:41:26.760 History repeats itself, or at least it rhymes.

01:41:29.720 Yeah.

01:41:29.900 And your, the point of learning history is to make sure those repetitions don't happen

01:41:35.160 again.

01:41:35.980 Of course you want to know history just for knowing the truth.

01:41:39.440 Yeah.

01:41:39.740 But that's the really pragmatic applicable thing you're doing here.

01:41:44.400 And like, look, I, you know, again, as you mentioned, like if you're a historian,

01:41:47.100 yeah, he's not, that's not what you want to do.

01:41:49.000 Right.

01:41:49.220 But it's interesting for us to learn it because you learn this stuff and you say, okay, what

01:41:54.540 path should we avoid?

01:41:56.360 Right?

01:41:56.560 Like that, that's why you learn about, you know, the Nazis.

01:41:59.960 Every time you bring up the Nazis, people are like, oh my gosh, how could you bring

01:42:03.140 that up?

01:42:03.520 You know, you can't compare that to today.

01:42:05.080 And oftentimes that's true.

01:42:06.400 In fact, almost all the time it's true because it's the most extreme example most of us can remember

01:42:11.640 outside of the communist party, which for some reason is a deleted stream, but we don't think

01:42:17.280 so for some reason.

01:42:17.700 No one wants to bring that up.

01:42:18.580 Whatever.

01:42:19.200 Communist party, Mao, whether you want to talk about Mao or Hitler or whoever you want to

01:42:22.560 bring up, Stalin, you, you want to look at these things and not decide 10 minutes before

01:42:29.940 the gas chambers open up that we should push back against these efforts.

01:42:35.380 This is almost what I said to Jennifer say yesterday.

01:42:38.060 Yeah.

01:42:38.320 After the interview, we, we sat around and talked some more.

01:42:41.640 Um, and we were talking about how people try to silence you, um, when you are pointing

01:42:48.540 out facts, she's a Jewish, her husband is Jewish.

01:42:51.380 They're not religious at all, but they are very well-versed in the Holocaust. 0.76

01:42:57.000 And, uh, I said, you know, I always got heat because I would say, Hey, these are the seeds

01:43:02.480 that lead to the gas chamber.

01:43:04.500 And I said, you know, if, if I'm not mistaken, never forget never again.

01:43:11.640 It means when the seeds are being planted, not at the door of the gas chamber going, we

01:43:17.080 shouldn't do this.

01:43:18.220 It's too late.

01:43:19.120 Too late at that point.

01:43:19.940 And she said, I agree with you totally.

01:43:21.640 Yeah.

01:43:21.760 You have to look at history and not look at the end, but look at where the plants are being

01:43:29.240 grown, where the seeds are being planted and who's harvesting that field.

01:43:33.580 And you, you till that soil and get rid of all of that stuff at that point.

01:43:40.620 Yeah.

01:43:40.980 The time to check if there's a pool at the end of the water slide is not when you're halfway

01:43:44.660 down it.

01:43:45.260 You look from the top before you get on.

01:43:48.080 Right, right.

01:43:49.600 Exactly right.

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01:45:43.420 Welcome.

01:45:44.300 I'm so glad that you're here.

01:45:46.640 Uh, I heard about, uh, Ted Cruz and, uh, and his wife and their struggle with their daughter

01:45:55.620 right now, um, beyond, beyond politics, beyond all of this stuff.

01:46:03.920 Um, our children are in trouble.

01:46:09.660 All of our children are in trouble.

01:46:11.600 Um, his daughter is in trouble and he's not really speaking about it.

01:46:15.960 So I'm not going to say anything.

01:46:17.720 I don't know anything, but, um, I can tell you that, um, as you know, uh, if you've listened

01:46:25.740 to this program before, I have had bouts of suicide in my immediate family with, with my

01:46:33.240 children, um, in the last few years.

01:46:36.960 And, uh, I am still battling with that with my children.

01:46:43.720 Um, um, you might be too.

01:46:46.840 And if you are a parent, I know what you're going through.

01:46:53.060 You're worried, you know, what could I have done differently?

01:46:57.420 Is it me?

01:46:59.320 Um, you know, what do I do now?

01:47:02.800 It is a horrible place.

01:47:05.740 Mental health and suicide is, uh, it used to be a dirty word.

01:47:12.120 Nobody wanted to talk about it.

01:47:14.180 And now I feel like we're still not really talking about it and it is everywhere.

01:47:21.580 Uh, I wanted to talk to Jamie Kilstein today because, um, he's got a podcast called advice

01:47:27.080 not taken.

01:47:27.680 And then he talks a lot about, uh, suicide and depression and wanted to get him on today.

01:47:33.460 Hi, Jamie.

01:47:33.980 How are you?

01:47:35.700 Hey man.

01:47:36.540 How you doing?

01:47:37.180 Well, I'm good.

01:47:38.460 I'm good.

01:47:39.480 Uh, yeah, I, uh, it's funny.

01:47:41.900 I had, uh, I had jokes in my head about the, the, the politics of this and the, the people

01:47:49.640 who have made this political.

01:47:50.860 And after hearing your intro, I just want to, you know, it's, I didn't know you were

01:47:59.660 going through that.

01:48:01.000 And I think I'd rather open by talking about, you know, I've been suicidal.

01:48:06.140 I've been really close and recently, and I've talked to people who are dealing with the

01:48:13.240 same thing with their kids.

01:48:14.560 And I think the first thing I want to say to you, uh, as a friend and to people who listening,

01:48:22.300 whether it's them who's had suicidal ideation or it's their kids is the sort of beautifully,

01:48:32.900 tragic, ironic part of everyone I've met who struggles with depression or suicidal thoughts

01:48:42.300 is they are some of the coolest people I've ever met in my life.

01:48:48.900 I've ever talked to, and they don't know that.

01:48:53.760 And it's kind of our job to remind them of that, but it's oftentimes, man, it's the people

01:48:59.840 who feel the hardest.

01:49:02.260 It's the people who have the biggest heart.

01:49:05.980 It's the people that we need more of.

01:49:09.100 I mean, if, when you're struggling because you're so sad or you see the pain of the world

01:49:15.900 and you don't know what to do and you feel so helpless, it's like, dude, you can't go

01:49:19.940 anywhere.

01:49:20.480 Like we need more people like you.

01:49:23.660 It's never the person who's like speeding to the, the, you know, they cut to cut you off

01:49:29.080 in traffic, uh, to go to the concert, to stand in the front row, even though he's six foot

01:49:33.660 five, like that guy's going to be fine.

01:49:35.000 He's going to like a vegan restaurant and pyrotherapy and, um, it's these, like, it

01:49:41.660 really is.

01:49:42.560 It's these people who feel like they don't belong.

01:49:45.300 And what I always try to remind them is like, dude, those, I want to be around people who

01:49:51.040 feel like they don't belong your favorite from your favorite musicians to everyone who

01:49:56.960 followed Jesus.

01:49:57.620 Those were people who didn't belong.

01:49:59.420 It's always the, the, the cool people.

01:50:01.780 And the problem is it is so hard to be different.

01:50:06.720 And I mean, man, I can't even imagine growing up with social media, with the access to pornography,

01:50:15.960 with all of this stuff that kids have.

01:50:18.140 I mean, I was a suicidal wreck and I had access to like one playboy in the woods that we all

01:50:23.340 were here and like pass it around.

01:50:26.620 Like, you know, divorced parents with joint custody.

01:50:29.640 And you know, I, I, I, I have to wait till school to get bullied.

01:50:34.820 Um, I'm a 40 year old man and someone sends a tweet about something that's not true or

01:50:42.560 calls me a name when I'm trying to talk about mental health.

01:50:45.520 It's hard for me not to spiral.

01:50:47.680 Um, but I think that's the most important thing I wanted to say is that like, not the

01:50:53.340 cliche, you know, Hey, we're all God's children.

01:50:56.600 Life is precious.

01:50:57.480 Forget all that right now.

01:50:58.520 It's that like you specifically, you listening to this specifically who doesn't want to be

01:51:03.920 around.

01:51:04.340 You are so much more special than you think you are.

01:51:06.940 And you have so many more people backing you up than you think you do.

01:51:11.040 And it's, it's not just like, Hey, hang out.

01:51:14.280 You'll get through it.

01:51:15.180 It's like, no, no, no, get through it.

01:51:17.500 And then excel all of your wildest expectations for what you can do.

01:51:23.360 Because I'm telling you, man, the people who feel that are special.

01:51:26.800 When you get through it, um, uh, at least the first time when you get through it, it,

01:51:35.300 you are on guard, um, from it the rest of your life when you, cause you know, you, you

01:51:43.160 figure out the first time that you're, um, that your brain can be your worst enemy.

01:51:51.540 Uh, and when you go through a chemical depression, it, it's, everything seems logical.

01:51:58.960 All the, the ideas of suicide, it all seems so perfectly logical.

01:52:04.860 Um, and all of the excuses that you have made, you're not looking at them as excuses.

01:52:12.520 They're absolutely real to you.

01:52:15.480 And when you really hit the bottom, you really, truly believe the world would be a better

01:52:20.320 place without you.

01:52:21.780 And it's all a lie.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.580 All a lie.

01:52:24.700 Dude.

01:52:24.960 I'm, I'm so glad you said that because it's not this, you know, when it's been real for

01:52:31.700 me, it hasn't been this, like, she broke up with me.

01:52:35.460 I'm going to like Thelma Louise myself off a cliff.

01:52:38.080 It's been, it's been, you're right.

01:52:41.080 It's very like logical, like, Hey man, like we give it the old college try, you know,

01:52:46.720 like we did all the things we made some mistakes, but like, I thought we were on the right path

01:52:52.820 and we were getting better and it's still not working.

01:52:56.340 I still, you know, whatever it is, I still can't find the person I'm supposed to be with.

01:53:01.820 I still can't, you know, dig myself out of debt.

01:53:04.320 I still can't forget the things I saw in war.

01:53:07.200 I still can't, you know, get this bully off my back at high school, whatever it is.

01:53:11.500 And you just go, yeah, like it would just, it, you know what it feels like.

01:53:16.620 And this is horrible to say, but thought of it, it almost feels like a relief.

01:53:20.180 It does.

01:53:20.860 Where you just, it does.

01:53:21.840 And in my case, in my case, it was my family will be better without me.

01:53:28.680 I'm, I'm dragging everything else down.

01:53:31.860 I'm this black hole that's dragging everything else down.

01:53:35.760 First you, with me, at least you blame everything.

01:53:39.120 And then when you realize none of those things are actually the problem,

01:53:43.660 then you start to look in yourself and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm a black hole.

01:53:47.040 And it's not only a relief from the, the daily pain that you're in, but it is a, in the end,

01:53:56.060 it becomes almost a sacrifice for the good of others.

01:53:59.220 And it's just insane.

01:54:01.760 It's insane.

01:54:03.120 Yeah.

01:54:04.060 Well, and I want to remind people listening right now that it's like everybody listening,

01:54:08.720 I don't know what they think of me, but everyone listening is a fan of you as a person,

01:54:12.780 not just as a radio host.

01:54:14.820 And so when they hear you say that, they go, well, that's crazy.

01:54:18.440 Look at how much good Glenn has done and has tried to do or whatever.

01:54:23.580 But then there's still a part of them that goes, but yeah, but I'm that I'm different.

01:54:27.640 And what I want you to say is like the way you look at you, Glenn, when you talk about it

01:54:33.420 is the way other people look at you.

01:54:35.480 You know, so many, Robin Williams was one of my closest friends.

01:54:38.680 And, you know, that was not a person I expected to get a phone call about when he died.

01:54:46.680 Now, there were medical issues and stuff happening behind the scenes, but still, you know, he

01:54:52.880 thought it would make the world better or his family better.

01:54:57.740 And it's like, I mean, people still come up to me rocked about what happened to him.

01:55:04.820 I still think about him on a daily basis.

01:55:07.300 And it's like, why are you different?

01:55:09.660 Anyone listening?

01:55:10.800 Like, how are you different?

01:55:11.780 You still have something inside you that other people love that other people need.

01:55:18.500 And I know it feels like you don't.

01:55:21.140 But like, man, I'm telling you, everybody you look up to, like they've had the exact same

01:55:26.840 thoughts that you have.

01:55:27.840 We're just better at pretending that it doesn't exist.

01:55:31.820 And especially around the holidays, again, on social media, I feel like every time I

01:55:36.720 open up Instagram, I'm just like, are all of my friends hotter than me at having kids

01:55:41.280 and families and giant Christmas trees?

01:55:43.700 And like, and you start to feel like you don't belong.

01:55:47.640 But like all of those people, one, I mean, Instagram is a lie.

01:55:51.340 But two, also follow me on Instagram.

01:55:53.680 So I'm definitely.

01:55:54.180 It's at the Jamie Kilstein.

01:56:00.800 Give him an old F you and follow me.

01:56:02.900 Right.

01:56:05.180 It's really hard where it's like, man, the negative stuff on social media makes me feel

01:56:10.040 negative.

01:56:10.580 And the positive stuff on social media makes me feel like I don't have enough.

01:56:14.140 And you have to remember that, again, everyone you look up to not only has had thoughts like

01:56:19.000 this, not only has dealt with depression and their own demons, but also like they've struggled

01:56:23.840 and, and, and, and, and what got them to that picture you're looking at right now is pushing

01:56:29.360 through the struggle.

01:56:30.840 And then guess what?

01:56:32.020 Not only are you better, but now you're armed with what me and Glenn have, where you can

01:56:38.300 now help other people who are going through it.

01:56:41.100 And you can go, Hey man, I was there too.

01:56:43.840 And I'm telling you, you're going to be okay.

01:56:45.600 And like, what a gift that is to literally be able to save people's lives because of

01:56:50.940 the lowest moment of your life.

01:56:53.420 Jamie Kilstein, uh, the, uh, host of advice, not taken a comedian that, uh, is kind of taken

01:57:01.060 hiatus from a lot of that.

01:57:03.160 And it's just still naturally funny.

01:57:04.720 Uh, but he is concentrating on, uh, advice, not taken and concentrating on things of the

01:57:12.080 spirit and the soul and, uh, and health.

01:57:14.860 Jamie Kilstein, thank you very much.

01:57:16.620 I appreciate it.

01:57:18.560 Thanks brother.

01:57:19.300 That's good.

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01:58:46.440 Well, welcome to the, welcome to the program.

01:58:56.300 I, I, I want to share this.

01:58:58.960 I, I've been reading Ezekiel and this morning I walked in and I, I read a chapter and I left

01:59:07.620 it open right in front of my, my computers.

01:59:11.800 And I remember thinking just about an hour ago, I don't ever leave it there.

01:59:16.960 Why did I just leave that there?

01:59:18.660 And while I was talking to Jamie, I think I know why.

01:59:22.120 Um, I, I was reading Ezekiel today and it was talking about how, uh, Israel has just lost

01:59:33.600 its way.

01:59:34.160 And it's so, so good about America.

01:59:36.120 The end of the chapter 33 and then 34 and a 34 is woe to you shepherds who only take 0.66

01:59:44.700 care of yourselves should not shepherds take care of the flock.

01:59:48.660 You eat the curds, you clothe yourself, you wool and slaughter, and you have the choice 0.71

01:59:52.900 of animals, but you don't take care of the flock.

01:59:55.640 You haven't strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured.

01:59:59.960 You haven't brought back the strays or searched for the loss.

02:00:03.700 You've ruled them harshly and brutally.

02:00:07.780 They were scattered because there was no shepherd.

02:00:10.800 They were scattered.

02:00:11.780 They became food for all the wild animals.

02:00:14.460 My sheep wandered all over the mountains and over every high hill.

02:00:18.240 They were scattered over the whole earth and no one was searching or looking for them.

02:00:23.780 Therefore you shepherds, as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, because my flocks

02:00:30.560 lack a shepherd and so have been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals.

02:00:36.180 And because my shepherds didn't search for my flocking, cared for themselves.

02:00:40.240 I, I will stand against the shepherds and I will hold them accountable for my flock.

02:00:47.480 The thing I got out of this and the reason why I think I thought of it with Jamie was about

02:00:56.820 a year ago, I was thinking honestly about myself and I was thinking, how do I protect my children?

02:01:05.440 How do I protect from this coming storm?

02:01:08.820 And, uh, I felt really strongly kind of a chastisement and I felt the Lord said to me, I can't tell

02:01:18.480 you anymore what I can do to you, what you can do to help yourself, but I can tell you what

02:01:24.260 people need and how you can help them.

02:01:27.320 Um, and it was, um, kind of a shameful moment and, uh, and I, I work very hard now to think

02:01:41.080 of others, uh, first, there are a lot of people around us right now, especially during the holidays,

02:01:49.880 but it is, it is rampant in our families, in my family, uh, I, I just, I, I, I can't even

02:02:09.600 begin to express what's happening.

02:02:11.300 Um, and we're all going through this.

02:02:14.080 We're all going through this.

02:02:15.600 We need to look out for one another.

02:02:18.380 We need to, uh, the shepherds have done a really poor job, but, um, you don't have to

02:02:24.820 be a sheep, even though we might all be sheep in the end.

02:02:29.640 We really need to go out and look for our other lost brothers and sisters and heal them

02:02:35.780 and bind the, uh, bind up the injured, bring them back into the fold as much as we can.

02:02:43.540 The Glenn Back Program.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 09, 2022

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