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00:01:04.480 Well, today is the reason I first built the blaze. Because today, I've got a lot to say.

00:01:20.040 And if it means there's no one to advertise, well, so be it. Tucker Carlson.

00:01:31.240 Now under the spotlight of the all-powerful Media Matters. We begin there in one minute.

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00:02:49.620 Last night on Tucker Carlson, he responded to what Media Matters is doing now to him.

00:03:12.860 We've seen this movie before. We've seen somebody chased out by something they said

00:03:19.420 in old comments, but the comments that I have seen are from a Bubba the Love Sponge show,

00:03:28.660 which isn't always known for its tact and its acceptance in polite society.

00:03:36.580 Yeah, it's amazing. I was amazed at all the people, the blue check marks on Twitter,

00:03:40.020 shocked that there could be a show named Bubba the Love Sponge coming from, I swear,

00:03:44.700 the same people who wrote think piece after think piece about how the death of Gawker was the death

00:03:50.140 of journalism. You do remember that he was very prominent in that story with Hulk Hogan,

00:03:56.720 and that was the whole story surrounded Bubba the Love Sponge. The guy's one of the most successful

00:04:01.600 radio hosts in the country and has been for a long time. These are the same people that listen

00:04:06.840 to Howard Stern every day. Stop it. Oh, my panties are so dainty. Oh, shut up. Oh, at one point,

00:04:13.680 they're like, you know, he's like, Elena Kagan is not attractive. And then they have the cable

00:04:19.500 news thing that they do, Glenn, because they'll play the clips, and it's like Tucker Carlson says

00:04:23.100 something that's offensive, and then comes out to silence. Wow. Okay. Hold on. Let me just gather

00:04:39.220 myself. He just, he's, no, he just stated. I just, oh, I am. What? I can't, can you even believe?

00:04:47.160 Oh, wow. A lot of people might. This is how I got my job on CNN. Hold on. I've never, he said darn.

00:04:57.220 Hold on. Pull yourself together. Pull yourself together. Pull yourself together. You can know

00:05:02.220 you can get through this. You know you can get through this. Oh, my gosh. He, okay, you, you heard

00:05:08.840 that. I, he, they have not, oh, my. Could we, could we play, could we play the clip again? Could we play

00:05:15.100 the clip again? I don't think I could hear that again. All right. No. This fake outrage

00:05:20.400 is so bad. You are not outraged by the woman who had to take her 17-year-old daughter in

00:05:29.600 her arms. She weighs 20 pounds. 20. She had to take her up in her own arms and walk her to

00:05:40.180 the morgue because the socialist can't run a power plant. She died. She starved to death

00:05:52.820 under socialism. You people brought that to Venezuela. You are the very people that held

00:06:01.060 Chavez up as a great model. You were the people that cheered that Barack Obama took that

00:06:09.700 anti-American book from Chavez. You said this was great. Now you're saying, oh, well, yes,

00:06:16.180 but it's not Chavez. It's Maduro. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's called democratic socialism.

00:06:25.520 You want the people to be able to vote, and they did. They voted in a bus driver who could feel

00:06:34.160 the pain of the people, and then he became president, and lo and behold, he didn't know

00:06:42.820 how to run the country. You see, you have a problem when you set something up under one

00:06:50.100 guy, and then you have a democracy, a democracy, not a republic, a democracy that has direct

00:06:57.920 elections, and so they elected this guy because socialism is neat, and he'll give us even more

00:07:04.880 stuff, and as soon as it went wrong, guess what happens? He shuts off elections. He tampers with

00:07:12.340 the elections. Now you can claim, well, he wasn't really elected. Yes, he was once. This is how it

00:07:21.360 always ends with democratic socialists. This is the way it always ends, and you are upset about

00:07:29.940 something that Tucker Carlson said on a comedy show, a show called Bubba the Love Sponge. You are

00:07:39.920 somehow shocked and horrified that he might have said something in 2006, and anyone who defends

00:07:49.100 Tucker Carlson, oh my gosh, well, look at the anti-female, the misogynist, the anti-homosexual

00:07:58.480 tirade just continues now with this person. No, no, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with

00:08:08.380 anything that Tucker Carlson said, but I am not going to be outraged by something that was said

00:08:13.860 in a comedic sense in 2006 when people have to go carry their dead children who weighed more at their

00:08:24.540 death than my six-year-old son did, and they're 10 years older. I really am going to kind of put my

00:08:34.420 outrage in the outrage in the right place, and I really, really am not going to accept the moral

00:08:43.720 outrage and the moral lectures from Media Matters. Media Matters is the biggest hack job you've ever

00:08:53.300 seen. It is a direct threat to the American Republic, and anyone who is a journalist, you are being fed,

00:09:04.420 propaganda, and you're gobbling it up knowingly. You know who these people are. You don't care.

00:09:15.480 You'll take anyone, anyone who stands in your way, and you will just paint them all the same,

00:09:24.380 and you'll destroy them. I got news for you. After you lose the voices like mine, like Tucker's,

00:09:32.520 people who will actually stand up for you when you are in trouble for what you said, and we will stand

00:09:41.140 up, and I have a long record of it, standing up for people like Bill Maher weeks after 9-11 and ABC

00:09:49.200 fires him. I have a record of standing up for James Gunn, who said horrible things about a friend of

00:09:57.800 mine, but I didn't think he should be fired. I will stand up for you, but after you silence voices like

00:10:05.880 me, oh, I will be standing somewhere, be it in under a bridge or in a prison. It doesn't matter where

00:10:17.320 they put me. All I want is access to a little bit of news to watch, to see how long it will be before

00:10:26.440 you join me under that bridge, before you join me in the next cell, because after they come for us,

00:10:34.120 they come for you. But maybe, perhaps, oh, I wish, I hope, oh, rainbows are ponies. I know you believe

00:10:45.980 that this time they'll get it right, but seeing democratic socialism seems to always end the same

00:10:55.080 way. I'll see you under that bridge soon.

00:11:00.080 I haven't even said anything I wanted to say. I don't even know where that monologue came from.

00:11:08.140 I've got a lot to say today. And I want to play Tucker Carlson's monologue from yesterday.

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00:13:22.680 Here's Tucker Carlson last night. As anyone who's ever been caught in its gears can tell you,

00:13:38.520 the great American outrage machine is a remarkable thing. One day you're having dinner with your

00:13:44.020 family imagining everything is fine. The next, your phone is exploding with calls from reporters.

00:13:49.560 They read you snippets from a press release written by Democratic Party operatives. They

00:13:53.920 demand to know how you could possibly have said something so awful and offensive. Do you have a

00:13:59.000 statement on how immoral you are? It's a bewildering moment, especially when the quotes in question are

00:14:04.040 more than a decade old. There's really not that much you can do to respond. It's pointless to try to

00:14:08.860 explain how the words were spoken in jest or taken out of context or in any case bear no resemblance to

00:14:14.640 what you actually think or would want for the country. None of that matters. Nobody cares.

00:14:18.940 You know the role you're required to play. You are a sinner begging the forgiveness of Twitter.

00:14:25.420 So you issue a statement of deep contrition. You apologize profusely for your transgressions.

00:14:30.480 You promise to be a better person going forward. With the guidance of your contrition consultants,

00:14:36.040 you send money to whatever organization claims to represent the people you supposedly offended.

00:14:41.320 Then you sit back and brace for a wave of stories about your apology, all of which are simply

00:14:46.040 pretexts for attacking you again. In the end, you get fired. You lose your job. Nobody defends you.

00:14:51.880 Your neighbors avert their gaze as you pull into the driveway. You are ruined. And yet, no matter how

00:14:57.880 bad it gets, no matter how despised and humiliated you may be, there is one thing you can never do.

00:15:04.520 One thing that is absolutely not allowed. You can never acknowledge the comic absurdity of the whole thing.

00:15:11.200 You can never laugh in the face of the mob. You must always pretend that the people yelling at you

00:15:16.840 are somehow your moral superiors. You have to assume that what they say they're mad about is what

00:15:21.820 they're actually mad about. You have to take them at face value. You must pretend this is a debate about

00:15:26.880 virtue and not about power. That your critics are arguing from principle and not from partisanship.

00:15:33.040 No matter what they take from you in the end, you must continue to pretend that these things are true.

00:15:37.840 You are bad. They are good. The system is on the level. But what if we stopped pretending for a

00:15:46.020 minute? What if we acknowledged what's actually going on? One side is deadly serious. They believe

00:15:52.520 that politics is war. They're not interested in abstractions or principles, rules or traditions.

00:15:58.820 They seek power. They plan to win it, whatever it takes. If that includes getting you fired or

00:16:04.000 silencing you or threatening your family at home or throwing you in prison, OK, they know what their

00:16:09.900 goal is. If you're in the way, they will crush you. What's interesting is how reliably the other side

00:16:16.180 pretends that none of this is happening. Republicans in Washington do a fairly credible imitation of an

00:16:21.920 opposition party. They still give speeches. They tweet quite a bit. They make concerned noises about

00:16:27.460 how liberals are bad. But on the deepest level, it's all opposed. In their minds, where it matters,

00:16:35.000 Republican leaders are controlled by the left. They know exactly what they're allowed to say and

00:16:40.540 believe. They know what the rules are. They may understand that those rules are written by the very

00:16:45.220 people who seek their destruction. They ruthlessly enforce them anyway. Republicans in Washington police

00:16:51.460 their own with a never ending enthusiasm like trustees at a prison. They dutifully report back to the warden

00:16:57.760 hoping for perks. Nobody wants to be called names. Nobody wants to be Trump. How many times have you seen it

00:17:03.940 happen? Some conservative figure will say something stupid or incomplete or too far outside the bounds of

00:17:09.920 received wisdom for the moral guardians of cable news. Twitter goes bonkers. The mob demands a response.

00:17:16.400 Very often, the first people calling for the destruction of that person are Republican leaders.

00:17:23.100 You saw it with the Covington Catholic High School kids. You see it all the time.

00:17:26.880 Kevin McCarthy spends half his day telling Republican members not to criticize progressive orthodoxy.

00:17:32.480 Paul Ryan did the same before him. A couple of years ago, the entire Democratic Party decided to deny the

00:17:39.020 biological reality of sex differences, an idea that's as insane as it is dangerous. Republican leaders

00:17:45.200 decided not to criticize them for it. They might get upset. This is a system built on deceit and

00:17:51.340 enforced silence. Hypocrisy is its hallmark. Yet in Washington, it's considered rude to ask questions

00:17:57.160 about how exactly it works. Why are the people who consider Bill Clinton a hero lecturing me about

00:18:03.060 sexism? How can the party that demands racial quotas denounce other people as racist? After a while,

00:18:10.100 you begin to think that maybe their criticisms aren't sincere. Maybe their moral puffery is a

00:18:16.060 costume. Maybe the whole conversation is an absurd joke. Maybe we're falling for it. You sometimes hear

00:18:23.060 modern progressives described as new Puritans. That's a slur on colonial Americans. Whatever their

00:18:29.200 flaws, the Puritans cared about the fate of the human soul and the moral regeneration of their society.

00:18:34.620 Those are not topics that interest progressives. They're too busy pushing late-term abortion and

00:18:38.900 cross-dressing on fifth graders. These are the people who write our movies and our sitcoms. They

00:18:44.240 are not shocked by naughty words. They just pretend to be when it's useful. It's been very useful lately.

00:18:50.660 The left's main goal, in case you haven't noticed, is controlling what you think. In order to do that,

00:18:56.300 they have to control the information that you receive. Google and Facebook and Twitter are fully

00:19:00.540 on board with that. They're happy to ban unapproved thoughts and they don't apologize for it. They

00:19:04.860 often do. So do the other cable channels and virtually every major news outlet in this country.

00:19:10.820 One of the only places left in the United States where independent thoughts are allowed is right

00:19:16.280 here, the opinion hours on this network. Just a few hours in a sea of television programming. It's not

00:19:22.960 much, relatively speaking. For the left, it's unacceptable. They demand total conformity.

00:19:28.600 Since the day we went on the air, they've been working hard to kill this show. We haven't said

00:19:33.560 much about it in public. It seemed too self-referential. The point of this show has never

00:19:37.800 been us. But now it's obvious to everybody. There's no pretending that it's not happening.

00:19:42.480 It is happening. And so going forward, we'll be covering their efforts to make us be quiet.

00:19:46.960 For now, though, just two points to leave you with. First, Fox News is behind us, as they have been

00:19:52.500 since the very first day. Toughness is a rare quality of the TV network, and we are grateful for that.

00:19:58.600 Second, we've always apologized when we're wrong, and we'll continue to do that. That's what decent

00:20:02.640 people do. They apologize. But we will never bow to the mob. Ever. No matter what.

00:20:11.860 Amen. Which is just a fancy word with, I agree. That's what the amen means. I agree. Amen.

00:20:28.600 This is all about the next presidential election. This has nothing. They've saved these things.

00:20:38.640 They've built this case. They went back and looked for things that you could be outraged

00:20:45.240 about, America. They're not outraged by it. They looked for things. Nobody was bringing this up.

00:20:52.560 Somebody went and did dirty ops to try to find something that they could take from a Bubba the

00:20:58.660 Love Sponge show and then show to you when, when, what's really happening. It's called Upfronts.

00:21:07.700 This is when all of the media gathers together and those networks sell their commercials a year in

00:21:15.440 advance. Well, God forbid you can't have, you can't. Are you going to advertise? Guess who's having

00:21:22.300 a rally today? Media matters. They've got the posters. They've got the banners, Fox hates,

00:21:30.100 bigots, racists, and they're all going to be picketing today. You know where? At the meeting

00:21:36.940 of all of the advertisers. That's all this is about. They are using you.

00:21:44.760 Nobody wants to be Trump. You know, when we say, when we come out and we say, wow, the Covington

00:21:58.940 kids, the first day when that comes out, we were the first to say, if that happened, that's

00:22:05.460 really bad. I don't support it. Why? Because we believe it. Because we believe it. But we

00:22:11.660 were the only ones that when we found out, that's not what happened. We were the only

00:22:16.740 ones that said, Covington Catholic, we are sorry for saying those things. We're sorry.

00:22:23.180 You didn't do that. Did the left? Did the moral media? Absolutely not. I haven't even gotten

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00:24:54.900 And I want to make it very clear. Um, I do not defend anyone else's statements. I'm my own person,

00:25:07.060 but what I do defend is their right to say it, especially when it's comedic.

00:25:14.940 You people who are all offended when he said something outrageous, you know, go ahead, go ahead,

00:25:23.580 go ahead. This is, you know what this is? This is the writer's scare of 1950. This is taking people

00:25:32.060 who have anything really to say, anything that will push back on the edges of society and getting rid

00:25:39.880 of them. Just throw them in jail. They're just not doing it with the government. They know because of

00:25:46.880 the first amendment as it stands yet today, but that's going to change soon. I think the government

00:25:52.840 can't come in and take control of the media. And so they have their henchmen do it. You know, it's, it's,

00:25:59.480 it's really, I was thinking about this this morning. It's really appropriate that media matters is a

00:26:04.940 democratic operative because really they haven't changed the tactics from when the Democrats were

00:26:10.440 using the Klan. I mean, that's all they do. They put on a hood. You don't really know who they are.

00:26:16.740 They make these charges. They burn across in your front yard and anybody who rushes into your defense

00:26:22.520 and says, Hey, they'll string you up too. So really the Democrats, I mean, once the Klan,

00:26:30.520 always the Klan, we welcome, uh, we welcome Pat Gray in. And by the way, today is the day.

00:26:40.200 I don't care who you support. I don't care if you go to the daily wire and support Ben Shapiro.

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00:27:15.820 I don't care. Just come together. We must stand together. I, I went on Hannity's, uh, program last

00:27:25.760 week. Everybody knows that Hannity doesn't have any love for me. And, and, and I have, you know,

00:27:32.080 had my troubles with Hannity in the last few years. Hannity reached out to me. People said,

00:27:38.880 why would you go on Sean Hannity? Because he reached out to me and we're in this together.

00:27:43.720 I don't have to agree with everything he says. He doesn't have to agree with everything I say.

00:27:47.760 We are in this together. We have to have a successful president. We have to have a successful

00:27:58.040 president. We need a successful president. We need a successful Senate. We need a successful

00:28:03.620 Congress. We need him successful. Anybody who stands for the bill of rights, man, I am on your side.

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00:29:19.340 today because, um, I always thought that the bubble, the love sponge show was a lot like NPR's frontline.

00:29:27.160 Right. And you seem to be saying something different today. No, no, it's not. No, nobody

00:29:33.100 drinks tea or coffee with their pinky in the air. That's weird. Yeah. That is weird. Cause you

00:29:38.520 would, you would expect some really hard hitting investigative journalism from Tucker on Bubba

00:29:44.760 the love spot. Right. And you would not, you would, here's what you wouldn't expect. Somebody

00:29:49.400 to say something comedic that would be irresponsible. No, that would be stunning. Yeah. Irresponsible

00:29:56.760 comedic, uh, conversations on a show called Bubba the love sponge. What? I love how they

00:30:03.000 all introduced it. Like it was on a shock jock program. The word shock is in the title of

00:30:08.020 your description. Right. So the whole point is to go on and say things that are shocking.

00:30:12.580 And I don't think you, it was, listen to this. It was on a shock jock program called Bubba

00:30:20.380 the love sponge. I don't think you need to tell us it's a shock jock show. I think we got

00:30:25.580 it. So I think we got it. Apparently you don't though. I mean, apparently not. No,

00:30:29.080 well, selectively we don't. Yes. You know, once in a while, if people will listen to it

00:30:33.820 and they'll go, Oh, that's funny. Whoa, that's a little shocking. But the minute politics can

00:30:39.040 be used. Oh, Oh, I'm shocked. What is this? Yeah. Bubba the love. What? Who, how could

00:30:43.860 you possibly? That is what do you, are you a love sponge? Are you insinuating that there

00:30:51.280 it is? Men keeping women down have to use a love sponge. I mean, all these people, you

00:30:56.440 point out correctly that these are the people that are listening to Howard Stern, the ones

00:30:59.300 that are so offended on the air. It wasn't the Christian conservative audience that made

00:31:03.000 Howard Stern the number one show in America. It's not the people that are writing shows for

00:31:08.480 Charlie Sheen, right? Those are the, they're so offended by this. Daddy, you're writing

00:31:15.220 shows for Charlie Sheen. Where they're like, Tucker Carlson goes on shock jock show and mocks

00:31:23.080 child rape. And you're like, Whoa, we may mock child rape. And then you listen to it. And

00:31:27.000 he's like, well, there's a teacher who had sex with a student, a female teacher with a male

00:31:32.140 student. And they had sex in a week, 28 times. And Tucker's like, wow, 28 times. Could you

00:31:37.620 do that? Baba, could you? There's the mocking of child rape that we're so upset

00:31:43.720 about. These from the people that nominated, uh, call me by your name, an actual like

00:31:48.480 glorification of the same thing happening with a guy, a male teacher having sex with

00:31:53.620 a 17 year old male, male student. Uh, and they nominated that for best picture two

00:31:58.840 years ago, but they're so offended by Tucker's comments, right? And they call it, they

00:32:03.460 call it child rape in the movie. They call it Oscar nominated.

00:32:11.360 The same era was when, I mean, you want to go down the list of, uh, remember the, um,

00:32:15.580 the movie, the aristocrats. Yeah. Now the aristocrats is about a joke and it's the whole

00:32:20.300 point of the joke. It's a, what you'd say was essentially a shock jock joke. The point

00:32:24.180 of it is to say the most disgusting, horrible things you can possibly say in the joke.

00:32:28.200 That's the whole point. And you go through the list. It's not all conservatives on there.

00:32:32.240 I don't see Tucker Carlson's name in the credits. You got, uh, Lewis Black, who is Mr.

00:32:37.860 Liberal. You've got, uh, you've got, uh, Whoopi Goldberg was in it. Uh, you've got, uh, let's

00:32:44.840 see. Uh, and if we took all of those things and we just put them out and said, look what

00:32:49.860 Whoopi Goldberg said, look at what she said. No, they would scream in context, right? Of

00:32:55.560 course. But they don't care about context. No, they don't. Her excuse would be, this

00:33:00.480 was comedy. Of course. And this was comedy and they would be absolutely right. But we

00:33:06.620 will honestly say that, but they won't because they don't care. The ends justify the means

00:33:13.440 I'm telling you, this is the opening shot across our bow. This is the opening shot. This

00:33:23.200 is because of advertising for next year. You've got to hurt Fox at the pocketbook. That way

00:33:31.240 Fox will not have the money to be able to do the things that Fox needs to do for the

00:33:37.480 next election. You know, do you know how much a satellite truck costs? Do you know how much

00:33:43.900 an hour of satellite time costs? Do you know what it even costs us to do our shows on the

00:33:50.480 blaze? It's extraordinarily expensive, extraordinarily expensive. You've got to hurt these people

00:33:58.920 at the pocketbook. That's what's going to put a wrench in all of their plans for the

00:34:05.660 election. You know, we've been talking about doing election coverage at the blaze and what

00:34:10.260 the blaze is going to be doing in 2020 to cover all of these things. The cost of all of this

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00:34:46.280 said. And boycotting sponsors. And at one point we had lost, I think over 900 sponsors on the show.

00:34:54.340 They were never sponsored. They were not sponsored. They're like another radio sponsor dropped from

00:34:59.900 Glenn Beck, Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes has never been on. Never. And then they did the same thing to

00:35:07.920 to Hannity. Then they did the same thing to Laura Ingram. And now they're doing it to Dr. Carlson.

00:35:12.780 You're forgetting about Bill O'Reilly. Bill. Yeah. They did it to Bill. Yeah. I mean, this is what

00:35:17.020 they do. I mean, and I miss really before that. Yeah. I miss the first. I miss was the first. I mean,

00:35:22.100 it's all just ridiculous. And the fact that they don't know this, I mean, they do know this playbook.

00:35:26.420 It's the same 12 people with the same nonsensical crap. And, and all of these companies know exactly what

00:35:33.220 it is. They're just using it as an excuse to be able to go out and target the speech they don't

00:35:38.720 like. You know, journalists are doing it. You know, one of the top, the top guys at Media Matters,

00:35:43.700 you know who he is, right? The guy who started, he was a, he was a college student and in his spare

00:35:49.780 time, he started stopbeck.com. Oh, that's right. Okay. That's the guy now that they have on MSNBC.

00:35:56.920 He was only hired because he was ruthless. Did anything. That's where the list came

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00:36:10.540 Before I go, I got to show you guys some, some gifts that we got. First of all, we had some

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00:36:45.240 And so now that is fantastic. Now they've updated with the stew doll and purses all over

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00:37:13.840 be great. This would be a fortune. Tell me those wouldn't sell like hotcakes. Oh, I'd

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00:37:33.140 Now think of a life-size bowling pin. Yeah. Put hair on it. Not very much. Not very much.

00:37:39.800 Put some hair on it. And that's him. What are their names? Julia, Alexis, Chloe, and Chris

00:37:46.140 Jones. These are fantastic. Really cool. These are fantastic. So nice. Thank you so much to

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00:40:20.720 We are going on to socialism next hour. Also, the infection of the Islamist movement in America.

00:40:31.300 That's coming up also next hour. You don't want to miss it. Let me just leave this

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00:41:11.000 with a political organization going and spending their time looking for things in people's past,

00:41:19.700 then taking a comedy show, taking it out of context, and stirring people up into anger for political

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00:42:43.620 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:49.020 Do you know why other nations are rising up and standing in the streets? Why you have

00:42:56.920 so many professors in Canada standing up and defending free speech? It's far more than what

00:43:05.460 we have here in America. Do you know why? I was told by one of them, because you're under

00:43:14.560 this delusion that you think your government will just always stand guard and you won't

00:43:23.120 lose your right to free speech. We don't have that right in Canada or in England. They don't

00:43:31.280 have it. So they know once somebody starts to infringe on it, they better stand up and

00:43:36.560 it's pretty late for them. But I fear it's growing even later for us in this new democratic

00:43:44.940 socialist utopia we're headed toward. We begin there in one minute.

00:43:53.320 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:57.400 This is really, this is, there's a university in Australia that found that women prefer the

00:44:03.080 body odor of men who eat fruit and vegetables than those who eat a lot of refined carbs.

00:44:13.700 I mean, that's reason enough right there to make sure you get your vegetables.

00:44:18.300 No, no, no. That is reason enough there to not send your kids with your dollars to a stupid

00:44:26.280 university. So, all right. So here's the thing. Eat your, your vegetables.

00:44:33.080 And your fruit. Your mom used to say that to you. Got to have your fruit and vegetables. Got to have

00:44:36.840 your fruit and vegetables. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. I ate it. And I don't know of a guy

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00:45:05.500 and you take it and you're done. And you've got everything that your body needs, including that,

00:45:12.200 that sweet, sweet aroma that apparently women love. I'm telling you, I just take, I just,

00:45:19.840 I would like a cologne that smelled like Cinnabon. And I think, I think a lot of women would love,

00:45:28.480 would love me, but it'd be very attractive. Have you noticed he smells like Cinnabons all the time?

00:45:32.820 I think a lot of people who look like you would love you. And I don't know if that's exactly what

00:45:36.600 you're trying to attract. Okay. All right. So let's say we make it into a perfume. No, because then

00:45:42.640 people like me would be attracted. I don't know. I'm still working on the Cinnabon perfume. In the

00:45:47.540 meantime, go to BrickHouseGlenn.com and order Field of Greens. 15% off of Field of Greens right now

00:45:55.140 at BrickHouseGlenn.com promo code Glenn. You know, in the free market system, Stu, I could come up with

00:46:12.580 my Cinnabon perfume and I'd let the market, I'd let the people decide, not like you in your socialist

00:46:18.580 democracy. I have Justin Haskins on who's going to, who's going to agree with me. The free market

00:46:25.720 is the right way to figure this Cinnabon thing out, isn't it, Justin? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's

00:46:31.920 the right way to go. I certainly don't want the government coming up with a Cinnabon perfume.

00:46:36.740 Well, they wouldn't. They wouldn't. They wouldn't. They would never do that. They don't know what the

00:46:43.820 people want. Right, right. All right. So you, you're the author of Socialism is Evil. And I've

00:46:50.200 been, I've been reading it and it's a, it's a quick read. It's like, what is it? 80 pages? Yeah,

00:46:55.160 like 75 pages or something. So it's a quick read and it is made for, you have anybody in your life

00:47:01.340 that is a socialist. You have anybody going to school that is a socialist. This is a quick starter

00:47:07.700 on why socialism is evil. And I wanted to get you on to make the, to make the case, but I want to talk

00:47:15.180 to you about a couple of things. First of all, tell me the difference between socialism and communism

00:47:21.580 and democratic socialism. Is there a difference? Yeah, in my opinion, there's absolutely no difference

00:47:29.100 at all. And it actually, if you read a lot of socialist material produced by modern socialist

00:47:35.140 parties today, the Socialist Party of Great Britain, various socialist groups in the United States,

00:47:39.840 they will flat out say, there's basically no difference between communism and socialism.

00:47:45.160 And the democratic socialism, what's being called democratic socialism or European style socialism,

00:47:50.060 this is basically just incrementalism. It's moving us toward this grand socialist utopia that Karl

00:47:57.220 Marx has all mapped out for us in the future. They don't want to do it right now at this very moment

00:48:02.740 because they realize that people aren't ready for it. They would never go for it. But they want

00:48:07.580 to move us in that direction. And at the end of the day, the goal is the same. We want to go to a world

00:48:12.700 where everybody has exactly what they need and nobody has what they want.

00:48:18.180 We have, Justin, we, I've said this recently, and every time I say it, people are like,

00:48:23.360 oh, no, no, no, no. I believe we are at the end of the American progressive era. The progressives

00:48:29.820 took it now as far as they can take it. Now it's time to take off the mask because progressive

00:48:36.660 was really European socialism. It is, let's take this and we're not going to cause a riot or,

00:48:45.800 well, riots we will cause, but no revolution. We don't want blood in the streets. We're just going

00:48:50.880 to move it incrementally and people will eventually want it and we'll call it progressivism. Now we're

00:48:58.000 at the point to where you got to name it and what you're naming is not America. It is a fundamental

00:49:07.200 flipping of the constitution and of the bill of rights and it's now socialism.

00:49:13.620 Yeah, that's exactly right. We're moving toward a society at a rapid pace where you don't have any

00:49:22.220 individual rights. You don't have any individual property rights. You don't really have freedom

00:49:26.240 of speech. We're seeing that slowly being eroded away, that all of these things are going to go

00:49:30.880 away in favor of the collective because the collective is what really matters. And anyone

00:49:35.760 who's interested in this should read the Soviet constitution. The Soviet constitution is amazing.

00:49:40.460 It's schizophrenic. In some parts it says you have freedom of, you have a right to freely practice

00:49:47.800 your religion or free speech. And then in other parts it says, well, only if it doesn't bother the

00:49:52.920 collective. If it gets in the way of what the collective wants, well then actually you don't

00:49:56.480 really have those rights. And that's, that's what modern democratic socialism in the United States

00:50:02.040 is moving us toward. This society where you as an individual don't matter. What matters is what

00:50:06.920 the collective wants. And if your desires, your beliefs, your religious beliefs, your moral beliefs,

00:50:12.440 if that gets in the way of, of what's good for the collective and who gets to decide that,

00:50:17.560 well, the collective, I guess, uh, then too bad for you. Uh, you need to just shut up and sit down.

00:50:25.000 Democratic socialism. They're saying, no, we want democracy. We want democracy. We want people to

00:50:30.760 have the vote, but then they deny when something like Venezuela happens, they'll say, oh, well,

00:50:36.840 that's not, that's not a democratic socialist. Well, yes, he was Maduro was elected until the

00:50:43.800 wheels came off. And then he said, you know, because it's a, we're in a dangerous situation.

00:50:48.320 Now I can't let that election happen the way it's supposed to happen. And then he rigged the election

00:50:54.500 and eventually stops all elections. That is the logical conclusion because you could, you could

00:51:00.960 hire Jesus, but, but Jesus, because he's not really, Jesus is going to die. You could have Gandhi do it,

00:51:08.780 but once he dies, the next guy comes in and people vote him in. If he's corrupt, it's autocratic.

00:51:16.660 It's there's, there's no restraint on him. Yeah, that that's true. And even if you could have,

00:51:23.400 and this is something I get into in the book, I mean, even if you could have this,

00:51:27.080 this mythical world where everyone is collectively owning and managing property and everybody is

00:51:33.620 happy with collectively owning and managing property temporarily, if you could somehow do

00:51:38.180 this without completely eroding people's liberty, without throwing people into concentration camps

00:51:43.400 and doing all the things that socialists and communist parties have done for the past 100 years,

00:51:47.680 you need to find a way to do that. You still have important moral controversies that occur

00:51:53.260 in, in, in life. Uh, for instance, in a single payer healthcare system, do you pay for abortion or

00:51:58.500 not? Do you pay for contraception or not? Are you going to force nuns to pay for abortion and

00:52:03.440 contraception or aren't you? If you have a socialized healthcare system, you can't escape those

00:52:08.520 questions. The collective decides what society is going to do. And if you happen to be in the minority,

00:52:14.040 you're a moral minority. Well, too bad. You either have to go along or you have to go to prison,

00:52:19.080 but that those are your only two options. You bring up the moral case. And this is part of

00:52:25.520 what you're talking about. Um, the, to me, the moral case, um, for the free market, uh, is,

00:52:34.680 is dirt strong. And the moral case against socialism perhaps is even stronger because of things,

00:52:44.660 as you point out, you're going to have to, you know, alcohol, you say in the book, alcohol,

00:52:49.960 40% of America, I can't believe it's that high, but 40% of America says, you know, drinking is

00:52:56.360 immoral. Well, are, are they going to be, are they going to have to own the, uh, the alcohol

00:53:03.100 production? And how do you force somebody to do it? You mentioned it with birth control, but there's

00:53:08.300 more to the moral case. And I think we're seeing it in Venezuela. You're killing people.

00:53:16.480 Yeah. You, you, and that's the thing. Socialism inevitably leads to a complete, to complete chaos

00:53:22.880 because anytime you try to force people to receive the same amount of wealth for doing the same amount

00:53:29.480 of work as people who are working, not nearly as hard as you are, it's a race to the bottom across an

00:53:35.440 entire society. People stop working hard because there's no incentive to work hard. And normally

00:53:40.660 you incentivize people by giving them a profit, by, by paying them more money, but you can't do that

00:53:46.140 in a socialist society. So how do you convince people to work harder? Well, you put a gun to the

00:53:50.460 back of their head and you say, work harder. And if you say, well, we don't like this, then you go to

00:53:55.340 prison, you go to the internment camp and you learn your lesson. And then you get to come back in

00:53:59.500 society and be a slave for the rest of your life. That's how socialism inevitably works. It fails every

00:54:05.120 single time because it's in fundamental violation of human nature. Right. And you get into, you get

00:54:11.640 into this, um, socialism's fatal flaw where you, you talk about, um, it's flaw is that it denies human

00:54:21.900 nature, but I expand on that. Expand on that. Humans, as I was just saying, humans are motivated

00:54:31.340 by their own individual, um, achievements by their own goals, by what, what, what would benefit them

00:54:39.600 and their families. That's, that's just a fact. That's what motivates humans. Socialism flips that

00:54:46.260 on its head and says, stop caring about yourself. Stop caring about your family. Stop caring about

00:54:51.880 your kids. None of that matters. What matters is the collective sacrifice yourself for the good of the

00:54:57.140 collective. And when you try to do that, I mean, just think about this in your personal life. Think

00:55:01.740 about this in your, in your own workplace. I mean, everybody who's worked a job knows that there are

00:55:06.980 people at the company who aren't working quite as hard as you're working and how that makes people

00:55:11.540 feel around the office. I mean, it never works out well because at a fundamental human level,

00:55:18.280 we understand that it's not fair to reward people equally for disproportionate amounts of work.

00:55:25.080 even kids understand this. This is, this, this is basic human nature. And yet Karl Marx and Alexandria

00:55:33.720 Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders and all of these people would like to pretend that these things don't

00:55:38.740 exist. This is, this is, this is, this whole system is completely delusional. And when you read

00:55:43.980 Communist Manifesto, that's what you walk away with. You say, well, how can, you know, a lot of people

00:55:49.280 talk about, well, why do kids on college campuses, uh, read Communist Manifesto and become socialist?

00:55:56.360 And, you know, obviously there are a lot of professors out there indoctrinating kids with

00:56:00.960 communism and socialist ideas. No question about that. But I think that a simpler solution is that

00:56:05.780 they're just all high and drunk and stoned out of their mind. And that those are the only people

00:56:10.920 who would ever find this to be an appealing system. It doesn't make sense. If you've had four

00:56:18.760 joints, then yeah, Communist Manifesto makes a lot of sense. But if you're not stoned, it's

00:56:24.700 completely illogical. Like I said, even little kids understand it. Well, they, they say that

00:56:31.700 communism or socialism, socialism is about sharing. And yes, kids don't, you know, you say they

00:56:40.640 understand, uh, that socialism is, is wrong or the Communist Manifesto doesn't make sense.

00:56:46.000 But that's why we have to teach children about sharing because they don't automatically know

00:56:51.460 about sharing. And that's what that's about. Let me give you a chance to respond to that here in a

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00:59:10.900 You know, I heard on the Glenn Beck program today, he had some guy on who wrote a book called

00:59:29.160 socialism is evil. Socialism is about sharing Justin Haskins.

00:59:35.300 Yes. Well, in order to share, you have to have a choice, right? That's the fundamental aspect of

00:59:44.440 sharing. You have to choose to give your wealth away or to give whatever your property away. You

00:59:49.820 have to choose to share. And there is no choice in a socialist society. Excuse me, excuse me, Justin,

00:59:57.840 but even our parents didn't give us a choice. They, they put us in time out until we learned.

01:00:04.300 It's just that we are like children and the government knows better and knows, and we all

01:00:10.360 know the principle of sharing is best. And so some people are going to have to be put into time out.

01:00:16.600 What's the problem? What's the difference between what your parent did?

01:00:21.460 Right. Yeah. Well, the difference I think fundamentally is that the government has absolutely

01:00:27.120 no right over you and you as an individual, whereas your parents of course have that right.

01:00:32.500 And the government doesn't know what the heck it's doing. It can't manage its way out of a paper bag.

01:00:36.780 It can't run the post office. It can't, that's just delivering mail. It can't run Amtrak. That's

01:00:42.080 just running trains on time without having literally hundreds of millions or billions of dollars

01:00:47.640 in deficits every single year. The government is totally incapable of managing anything. So the idea

01:00:53.580 that we want to give the collective, which is really the government's representing the collective,

01:00:58.340 all this power over our lives, because they would know how to use it best. And they know

01:01:03.440 what the right moral choices are and the wrong moral choices is insane. The government is running

01:01:09.220 a $22 trillion national debt right now. And yet we want the Democrats are asking us to give them

01:01:15.540 control of the healthcare industry, to give them control over the energy sector. I mean,

01:01:20.800 what makes us think that if they can't run trains in the post office and the DMV,

01:01:24.980 why the heck do we think that they can run our healthcare system? So tell me the difference

01:01:29.920 between socialism here in America and all we're talking about, Justin, is just the social system,

01:01:37.220 the socialist country of Denmark or Sweden. It's great there.

01:01:44.620 Yeah, this is maybe the most important myth that we need to debunk in this entire conversation,

01:01:51.880 because I've talked to so many young people who identify as socialists or identify on the left,

01:01:57.260 and they always point to Denmark, Norway, and Sweden as being these examples of great socialist

01:02:03.500 countries. They're not socialist countries in reality. They're mixed market capitalistic systems.

01:02:09.860 The Heritage Foundation and the Caden Institute have done analyses of World Freedom Index,

01:02:14.900 and the Heritage Foundation's Freedom Index, for instance, showed that Denmark, Sweden,

01:02:19.220 Norway, and Iceland all scored higher than the United States in the categories of property rights,

01:02:25.200 fiscal health, business freedom, government integrity. Does this sound like a socialist utopia

01:02:31.120 to you? I mean, they have balanced budgets in many of these countries. They're not running $800 billion

01:02:36.320 deficits. Norway has a trillion dollars just sitting in its sovereign wealth fund, and they only have

01:02:41.900 five million people in their country. So these are not, these countries have a couple of policies that

01:02:47.880 the left like, but they're not really socialist utopias. And by the way, they're not better off than we are.

01:02:55.020 After taxes, the average worker in these Scandinavian countries, they earn less than the average American

01:03:01.880 worker. They pay a lot more for their various goods and services, and their housing costs are much, much higher.

01:03:08.180 They're in some places twice as high as what it costs the average American in various parts of the country.

01:03:13.640 So they're not better off than us, and they're not socialists anyway.

01:03:17.540 So this is a giant myth that Bernie Sanders and Alejandro Caccio-Cortez are telling everyone around the world,

01:03:24.740 convincing them, despite the fact that leaders in those countries are saying, no, we're actually not socialists.

01:03:31.020 I guess we're supposed to believe Bernie Sanders and not the actual people living in Sweden and Denmark and Norway.

01:03:36.680 Justin, I appreciate all that you write for us at The Blaze, and I was really impressed with your ability

01:03:46.000 to communicate with an audience at CPAC. That's a rare talent, and you have it. And love your book.

01:03:53.420 Thank you so much for being on. It's Socialism is Evil by Justin Haskins.

01:03:59.900 You can find it online. Grab it. It's 70 pages. It's a paperback, easy to just fold in your pocket and give to somebody.

01:04:09.800 Socialism is Evil. You can follow him, by the way, on Twitter at Justin T. Haskins.

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01:06:34.460 I have been saying for a while that courage is contagious,

01:06:38.640 and we need to look for people with courage and highlight them and show them to our sons and daughters

01:06:46.420 because it is contagious.

01:06:48.340 When you see somebody who is standing up against all the odds,

01:06:52.740 you, well, at least in the America that I know, you can't help but admire them.

01:06:58.260 I want to introduce you to one of those guys with tons of courage, David Harris Jr.

01:07:03.520 He is the author of Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

01:07:07.160 Welcome.

01:07:07.900 Glenn, amazing to be on your show today, brother.

01:07:10.040 Thank you so much for having me.

01:07:11.040 Honored to have you.

01:07:11.800 Honored to have you.

01:07:12.560 Honored to be here.

01:07:13.300 You are a guy.

01:07:14.080 I want to start young.

01:07:15.400 You're a guy who was raised in a Christian home.

01:07:18.740 Yes.

01:07:19.500 You're a black man, in case anybody's listening on radio and doesn't know.

01:07:24.460 And I got to add, biracial.

01:07:26.400 My mom is white.

01:07:27.380 Okay.

01:07:27.800 My dad is black.

01:07:28.740 Okay.

01:07:29.180 So most people, when they look at me, they don't think anything other.

01:07:33.420 I'm a part of the black community, but I have an interesting dynamic in the book where I talk about I got to enjoy family gatherings at my mom's side of the family,

01:07:44.060 family gatherings at my dad's side of the family, and how completely different they were.

01:07:48.380 But I've dealt with my share, plenty of share of racism throughout the years.

01:07:52.200 So let's talk about that, because you then really could complain that you don't fit in either.

01:08:00.280 I felt that way for a long time, actually.

01:08:02.460 Okay.

01:08:02.980 I did.

01:08:03.460 Growing up in a very small town in Northern California, predominantly white, I did get picked on by the black folks, because most of my friends were white.

01:08:12.420 I didn't see color.

01:08:13.640 I just saw who was nice to me.

01:08:16.360 You know, who was a nice person.

01:08:17.840 Who did I want to hang out with?

01:08:19.640 So I dealt with it from the black side of some of the black folks in my city.

01:08:24.860 But then I also dealt with it from those that looked at me, and all they saw was black.

01:08:29.000 So it's very, very interesting.

01:08:30.860 How'd you get past that?

01:08:34.520 Throughout the years, I mean, that's a long answer to that question.

01:08:40.920 I know what eventually got me through it was coming to the recognition, the understanding of how good God is.

01:08:49.120 And his love then changed my perspective on life.

01:08:52.080 So let me go back to that through this door, because I want you to talk about you were a drug dealer when you were young.

01:08:59.360 Absolutely.

01:08:59.640 Okay.

01:09:00.280 Yep.

01:09:00.540 So take me through that and the change.

01:09:03.440 So 15, 16 years old, I was pretty popular in school as a dancer.

01:09:10.480 I danced with one of Michael Jackson's choreographers.

01:09:13.700 He brought me to Hollywood.

01:09:14.720 He wanted to do some things with me.

01:09:16.420 So I was pretty...

01:09:16.980 Wait a minute.

01:09:17.160 Wait a minute.

01:09:17.640 In today's world, you should...

01:09:19.500 Michael Jackson wanted to do some things with you?

01:09:21.540 The choreographer.

01:09:21.660 Okay.

01:09:22.020 Wanted to do things in Hollywood.

01:09:23.300 Okay.

01:09:23.660 He wanted to induce me.

01:09:25.680 Yeah.

01:09:26.020 Okay.

01:09:26.580 All right.

01:09:27.060 Okay.

01:09:27.300 Good.

01:09:27.860 That's all we...

01:09:28.780 Yeah.

01:09:29.160 In today's day and age, you do have to clarify that.

01:09:32.040 So I was a mixed up kid, though, I think because of not only being biracial, not only dealing

01:09:39.460 with racism from both sides, but then also my parents going through a divorce when I was

01:09:43.180 nine.

01:09:44.120 I leave school at nine years old like any normal day, and my dad is in the van with a bunch

01:09:49.000 of stuff in it.

01:09:49.680 We get in the van, and we drive to Redding, California from Oregon.

01:09:54.660 And I didn't see my mom again until a couple months later when we were in court, and the

01:10:00.040 judge asked me, he brought me to his chambers, and he said, who do you want to live with?

01:10:04.040 And all I could think of was...

01:10:05.880 Both.

01:10:06.400 My dad was...

01:10:07.280 Well, if it was a choice I had to make, my dad was big.

01:10:11.120 He was a very buff guy.

01:10:12.660 He always looked like two Mr. T's, squashed into one, six, three, 240, chiseled, and he

01:10:18.060 was black.

01:10:18.460 And so I said, well, honestly, I said, well, my dad, because I look more like him, not having

01:10:24.760 any understanding of what was really going on, that really shaped a lot of the heartache

01:10:31.840 that I felt and that I grew through, because then my father, he loved me in ways by providing

01:10:38.260 for me.

01:10:38.640 I found out later that he actually took me out of the house because things weren't going

01:10:42.280 well with my mom, and she was doing some things that weren't admirable.

01:10:46.620 Right.

01:10:47.420 And so he didn't want to leave me in that situation, so he got me out of it.

01:10:50.540 But I didn't see that as a kid.

01:10:52.840 He showed me love by providing a roof over my head, always food.

01:10:56.500 I never had to worry about the basic needs.

01:10:58.540 We weren't wealthy by any means.

01:10:59.960 We were probably definitely on a lower scale of middle class.

01:11:03.120 But I struggled with that a lot.

01:11:05.620 And then I didn't see my mom until the summertime.

01:11:07.260 And when I'd see her, she'd tell me how much she loved me and would, you know, if you understand

01:11:12.660 the five love languages, she was words of affirmation and physical touch.

01:11:16.300 She would hug me and, you know, all the stuff that I think little boys like.

01:11:22.520 And then I'd have a lot of resentment when I'd go back and live with my dad.

01:11:26.000 So I battled a lot of internal stuff.

01:11:27.660 Didn't add to it all the racial stuff.

01:11:29.560 Yeah.

01:11:29.740 You know, having to take my girlfriend at the time, having my white friend go pick

01:11:34.820 her up for our semi-formal prom at her house just to get her to the prom so that I could

01:11:41.300 be her date.

01:11:43.060 Wow.

01:11:43.620 Because they had no idea we were dating.

01:11:45.400 And they wouldn't have been cool with it.

01:11:46.660 No, absolutely not.

01:11:48.480 So that all led to a life of partying, drinking, smoking a lot of weed.

01:11:55.040 And then before I knew it, I knew the people that had it in quantity.

01:11:59.740 And then before I knew it, I had a pager that would go off 50 to 100 times a day from

01:12:03.520 everybody wanting any from weed to acid to mushrooms.

01:12:07.420 How'd you get out of it?

01:12:09.200 October 10th, 1993.

01:12:10.960 Good for you.

01:12:12.080 My girlfriend at the time, who's my bride now, her mom was out of town and I went over

01:12:18.300 to her house to hang out and spend the night.

01:12:20.720 Her mom was a single parent.

01:12:23.040 Jennifer was her only daughter and she was super protective.

01:12:26.240 So she comes home in the middle of the night.

01:12:30.180 We're there and she, uh, she didn't freak out.

01:12:34.520 We hear her come in, Jennifer.

01:12:36.280 And we're like, Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?

01:12:38.420 We're in a room.

01:12:39.460 We're clothed.

01:12:39.960 We're not doing anything yet.

01:12:41.440 But, uh, you had intent.

01:12:44.020 There was definitely intent.

01:12:45.340 Yeah.

01:12:45.780 Mm-hmm.

01:12:46.040 And, uh, she opens the door and she says to my wife, she says, well, my girlfriend at

01:12:51.680 the time, she says, Jennifer, what's going on?

01:12:53.700 And Jennifer said, we're just hanging out.

01:12:55.660 And her mom said, well, is he staying the night?

01:12:58.220 And we're thinking, what in the world?

01:13:00.720 And, uh, she said, yeah, he was going to.

01:13:04.140 And then she was trying to get her daughter, Jennifer, into church.

01:13:06.780 She was trying to keep her there.

01:13:07.600 So she says, well, you at least going to go to church tomorrow.

01:13:10.140 And I'm thinking, oh, here's my chance to look like a goody two shoes.

01:13:12.840 My grandpa's a pastor.

01:13:13.880 So I said, we can go to my grandpa's church.

01:13:16.580 Like hint, hint, my grandpa's a pastor.

01:13:18.280 Don't kill me.

01:13:18.800 Right.

01:13:19.680 So she said, what time does it start?

01:13:21.160 I told her and she shut the door and let me stay.

01:13:23.360 The next morning, the next morning I woke up and knew it was a different day.

01:13:28.560 I used to wake and bake, wake up and get baked, start drinking a 40 old English back

01:13:33.840 then.

01:13:34.100 Probably hadn't drank anything.

01:13:36.100 Hadn't smoked anything yet.

01:13:37.540 I'm thinking today's a really different day.

01:13:40.460 And then my grandpa's church service started at two.

01:13:44.240 My pager hadn't gone off all day.

01:13:45.860 We get to the church service.

01:13:47.800 Full gospel, Kojic, Church of God in Christ.

01:13:50.440 Just get down.

01:13:51.260 Love it.

01:13:51.620 Yeah.

01:13:51.940 Just, just.

01:13:53.760 Uncomfortable for white people who have never been to it.

01:13:56.900 Should be fun, though.

01:13:58.040 Yeah.

01:13:58.280 Should be a lot of fun.

01:13:59.320 Yeah.

01:13:59.880 So the beginning of the service is worship.

01:14:02.180 The choir's going crazy.

01:14:03.260 And then they would all of a sudden quiet down.

01:14:05.100 I hadn't been going to church.

01:14:06.160 I didn't.

01:14:06.640 I wasn't in church.

01:14:08.440 Raised in church early, but then left after my parents divorced.

01:14:11.960 The choir would quiet down and somebody would stand up and they testify what God was doing

01:14:15.840 in their life.

01:14:16.920 And then the choir would go crazy.

01:14:19.000 The church would go crazy.

01:14:19.880 And the choir would keep going.

01:14:21.400 That kept happening.

01:14:22.480 And people kept sharing what God was doing in their life.

01:14:24.320 And it was becoming evident to me that God was not only real, that he was actively working

01:14:29.060 in people's lives, but I was missing out and I was doing the devil's work.

01:14:34.500 So I had this amazing moment.

01:14:36.960 At that morning.

01:14:37.980 That morning.

01:14:39.000 All this is the same morning.

01:14:39.980 So I had this amazing thing happening inside of me.

01:14:43.240 Like, I need to just stand up and thank God I'm still here.

01:14:45.680 I had friends that had already gotten put in prison or jail, juvie at that time.

01:14:51.040 I'd done a lot of shady things and I just felt the need to thank God.

01:14:55.080 In front of her mom.

01:14:56.760 Yeah.

01:14:57.180 Her mom was there.

01:14:57.940 Okay.

01:14:58.580 Yeah.

01:14:58.940 Go for it.

01:14:59.340 Jennifer's there.

01:15:00.720 And so, but then at the same time, I'm like, I'm feeling this.

01:15:03.540 Who are you to stand up and say anything?

01:15:04.840 And so I just stood up middle of church.

01:15:07.860 I stand up and I just said, I just thank God that I'm still here after 18 years.

01:15:12.660 And all I can tell you, Glenn, is that the power of God hit me and flooded my being.

01:15:16.380 I literally took off running around the church.

01:15:18.140 It was a small church, but I ran down the front, across the front, out the back.

01:15:22.040 You had to go back through the foyer.

01:15:23.200 I did that three times, felt like a thousand tons of weights lifted off my shoulders.

01:15:27.580 Things visibly look different to me.

01:15:29.860 And when I got back to my seat, all I wanted to know was about this love that God had just

01:15:34.200 showed me.

01:15:34.840 I could leave everything else in my, in my life behind all the drugs, all the partying.

01:15:38.200 I can leave it all behind.

01:15:39.460 I just want to know about this God that loved me so much that in the middle of my sin drenched

01:15:44.140 life, he reached down and showed me his, he, he loved me.

01:15:48.820 And in that moment I thought about, I said, what about Jennifer?

01:15:53.020 I really liked this girl.

01:15:54.200 And I heard him say to me, it wasn't audible, but I heard it as loud as it could have been.

01:15:59.000 Don't worry about her.

01:15:59.920 Just keep loving on me.

01:16:01.760 So I did.

01:16:02.660 I just, you know, you see people with their hands raised.

01:16:04.580 It's a sign of surrender.

01:16:05.800 I also like to say it's a sign of a little kid reaching up to their Papa.

01:16:08.840 And when I turned and looked at her, Glenn, she had tears streaming down her cheeks.

01:16:14.660 She had her hands raised and God spoke to me and said, there's your bride.

01:16:18.600 Wow.

01:16:18.920 Well, we got married April 17th, six months later, and this April coming up next year

01:16:24.340 will be, or next month will be 25 years.

01:16:27.100 Gosh, I love that story.

01:16:28.980 I love, I love that story.

01:16:31.240 Okay.

01:16:32.280 We now haven't, we've spent the time that we had allotted and we haven't talked to anything

01:16:36.540 about what we wanted to talk about.

01:16:38.260 Can you stay?

01:16:39.080 Absolutely.

01:16:39.400 Okay.

01:16:39.900 So we'll have you stay because you need to hear why I think this guy is so heroic and

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01:16:46.860 Name of the book is Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

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01:18:24.820 We have David Harris Jr. on with us.

01:18:27.460 He wrote the book, Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

01:18:30.020 I didn't realize this is a self-published book, so you can buy it on your website, right?

01:18:34.320 Yes, sir.

01:18:34.960 At David J. Harris Jr.

01:18:37.620 That's where you can follow him.

01:18:38.980 And is it just DavidHarrisJr.com, right?

01:18:42.080 Yes, it is.

01:18:42.440 Okay.

01:18:44.280 Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

01:18:45.700 We just took you now from where you were, so you have a foundation of God, but you were

01:18:54.760 never really outspoken politically at all.

01:18:58.460 Not really.

01:18:59.120 Okay.

01:18:59.640 No.

01:19:00.660 And so, what, 25 years go by, 24, 23 years go by of your marriage, and you're not really

01:19:08.960 outspoken and you're not involved in politics.

01:19:11.440 No.

01:19:12.300 And what happens to you?

01:19:15.120 What happened to me was when I saw and was watching the 2016 presidential race, I think

01:19:20.120 closely, as I think more people in our country ever have, because of these two just totally

01:19:26.380 total opposites that were looking to take control of our country, it was really interesting

01:19:32.340 to me to see all of the negative spin on stuff.

01:19:36.420 I would see whole debates, or I'd see whole presidential campaign talks, and I'd see the

01:19:41.880 clip that CNN would take and blow out of proportion and paint Donald Trump a racist.

01:19:46.520 And none of it made any sense to me, because I understand urban culture.

01:19:50.320 I love hip-hop music, and hip-hop artists were always praising Donald Trump, and he was

01:19:56.400 always doing things in the black community.

01:19:57.980 So, it got me to begin to research what was really going on.

01:20:01.880 And then the other thing that really stood out to me was, and really the main thing was

01:20:06.980 the issue of pro-life or pro-choice.

01:20:10.440 You know, Hillary had made it very clear that she was pro-choice up until the baby actually

01:20:14.000 came out of the womb, and that a baby didn't have any rights, and Donald Trump was very

01:20:18.500 much opposed to that, and said, no, we need to protect the unborn.

01:20:21.700 And as a person of faith, as a person of color, that through my research, that discovered

01:20:26.740 that 80% of Planned Parenthoods are within walking distance of black communities across

01:20:31.500 this country, and that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a racist that

01:20:36.860 thought Jews and blacks should be exterminated, and that was her eugenics program, that they

01:20:41.460 changed and then changed the name to Planned Parenthood, and that's all supported by the

01:20:46.160 Democrats.

01:20:46.720 I mean, it caused me to really begin to research and look at things, and then after the third

01:20:50.560 debate between Trump and Hillary, I just couldn't stay silent anymore.

01:20:54.320 I got on my Facebook page.

01:20:55.540 I hadn't, I don't think I'd ever posted anything political or done a video political.

01:20:59.160 I only had a couple thousand friends, and I shared as an American, as a Christian, as

01:21:04.360 a father, as a black, a member of the black community, and as a husband, this is what

01:21:08.400 I feel is at stake for our country, and the biggest issue to me was the issue of pro-life,

01:21:14.640 and the video went to 400,000 views, and I was flooded with messages, a lot of messages

01:21:20.080 from men, women, Hispanic, Asian, black, a lot of hate mail, but all the good stuff was

01:21:27.660 from people that had been Democrats their whole lives, their whole families were Democrat.

01:21:32.140 They were planning on voting for Hillary, and they messaged me and said, because of what

01:21:36.500 you shared, I cannot vote for Hillary.

01:21:38.520 I have to vote for Trump, because that's a vote for life, and so that just said to me,

01:21:43.200 people are listening.

01:21:44.300 If I can swing the pendulum, if I can even swing the pendulum to have one person not choose

01:21:49.640 abortion, it's worth it, and that's when I first came out very, very strong.

01:21:55.640 I started my Facebook page, David J. Harris Jr., a few weeks later, and it's grown pretty

01:22:03.080 well, exponentially, and now you are speaking out, and I'd love for you, we're up against

01:22:13.120 the clock, I'd love for you to stay one more break, if you don't mind, and I want to hear

01:22:17.040 about what's happening in the black community, what's really happening, are people at all

01:22:25.120 waking up, and I don't say wake up to Donald Trump, are they waking up to what is happening

01:22:31.320 in our country, we are facing evil, to where we're talking about infanticide now, and is

01:22:40.680 this waking people up at all, and so we'll continue our conversation again, his name is

01:22:46.880 David J. Harris Jr., you can go to davidharrisjr.com and get his book, Why I Couldn't Stay Silent,

01:22:54.540 and we'll talk to him about his reception in the black community, now that he is coming

01:23:00.100 out as a conservative, and a staunch conservative, and what's happening in that community when

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01:24:07.140 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:24:09.720 We're going to do one final segment with David J. Harris Jr.

01:24:13.160 He is the author of a book, Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

01:24:15.860 He is also part of Blexit, and this movement of conservatives like Kanye, who I wouldn't

01:24:26.800 consider a conservative, of people just standing up and saying, wait a minute, I'm not part

01:24:31.000 of a collective, I'm an individual.

01:24:33.960 We'll talk to him about that.

01:24:35.360 Also, I just got a note that Bubba the Love Sponge wants to come on and talk a little bit

01:24:40.860 about what happened with Tucker.

01:24:43.420 I have no idea where that's going.

01:24:45.540 I'd like to share.

01:24:46.260 It should be interesting.

01:24:47.200 Going to do that.

01:24:48.140 And we also have Trent Lott coming.

01:24:50.960 I'm sorry, Trent Lott.

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01:24:53.040 We don't want Trent Lott.

01:24:53.520 I'm leaving the show if you're bringing Trent Lott on.

01:24:54.940 We're bringing John Lott on, talking about the new red flag gun laws that are being pushed

01:25:01.860 through in the Senate right now.

01:25:04.320 Very bad.

01:25:05.440 We'll talk about that coming up all this hour.

01:25:10.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:26:43.380 So we're talking to David J. Harris, Jr.

01:26:53.080 He's a guy who was not political.

01:26:55.780 He was a religious guy, had an encounter with God when he was young, changed his life,

01:27:01.640 is African-American, actually biracial.

01:27:05.940 Mom was white.

01:27:07.160 Dad was black.

01:27:08.380 We talked about that history a little while ago.

01:27:11.060 And what's interesting is he was not political until the third debate with Hillary Clinton

01:27:17.620 and Donald Trump.

01:27:18.860 Then you started speaking out.

01:27:20.660 And what has been the reaction?

01:27:22.680 It's been mixed.

01:27:24.140 I always look at the good stuff.

01:27:26.360 And when somebody says what you said resonated with me, and because of what you said, I need

01:27:31.420 to support our president because he supports life.

01:27:33.360 I'll give you one example.

01:27:34.200 A friend of mine messaged me on Facebook, and he said one of his good friends was contemplating

01:27:39.420 having an abortion, and he didn't know how to say to her what he felt.

01:27:43.660 So he shared my video with her, and my wife had actually also shared, which are chapters

01:27:48.720 in my book, that her mom was about to abort her, and she left the abortion clinic and had

01:27:53.780 my wife.

01:27:54.700 Wow.

01:27:55.100 So he shared that story and my video with that woman, and then he sent me a picture

01:27:59.900 of the baby that she had.

01:28:01.680 Wow.

01:28:02.300 I'm like, if it's just one, then it's amazing.

01:28:05.780 So are you a single issue kind of guy, or is that just the one that drives you?

01:28:13.480 Or are you a, I mean, I know you wear, you said to me a minute ago, the, you know, MAGA

01:28:20.340 hat, and you wear it through the airport, and you had an odd experience yesterday.

01:28:26.280 Well, normally when I wear it through the airports throughout the country, when I travel,

01:28:30.140 I'll get good looks and bad looks.

01:28:31.760 Yesterday, I got all negative looks.

01:28:34.020 Actually, I remember one guy on the airplane as I was leaving, another passenger that said

01:28:38.040 love the hat.

01:28:39.100 But the flight attendant actually continued to give me.

01:28:42.560 She looked at my hat, she looked at me, she looked at my hat, and then she looked at

01:28:45.200 me with absolute disgust the entire rest of the flight, every time she looked at me.

01:28:49.180 I get that a lot.

01:28:50.120 And the only, the only...

01:28:51.820 I don't have to wear a hat.

01:28:53.820 Well, everybody knows what you stand for.

01:28:55.420 So you're wearing that like a badge of honor.

01:28:58.740 But it made me feel about that divisiveness and division that's taking place at the American

01:29:04.120 level of just everyday people, and how what's being portrayed in the media, and what's

01:29:10.460 being portrayed by the Democrat politicians that want to continue to paint Donald Trump

01:29:14.220 all these negative things, the effect that it's having on average Americans is so horrible

01:29:18.920 and so negative that it's just, it's like, what's it going to take for Americans to just

01:29:23.340 wake up and realize decency, common decency?

01:29:25.880 So let me play the devil's advocate here, because that's what people would say back to you.

01:29:31.320 Well, what about your president?

01:29:33.260 When is he going to just have some common decency and treat people with respect?

01:29:37.100 You know, I'd say as a member of the black community, I love the fact that black-owned

01:29:41.280 businesses have increased 400% in the last year and a half since he's been president.

01:29:45.740 I love the fact that black unemployment, as well as Hispanic and Asian, and unemployment

01:29:50.540 for women is at a historic all-time low in our country.

01:29:53.000 So I'm not exactly sure what you'd like to resist or what you're upset with, but I actually

01:29:56.840 like the way our country's going underneath this current leadership.

01:29:59.520 So you are an outspoken guy, and you are part of Blexit.

01:30:08.380 Tell me about that.

01:30:09.600 Candace Owens is a dear friend.

01:30:11.340 Love that woman.

01:30:12.560 She's doing a lot to try to wake the black community up.

01:30:15.360 The Hispanic community is behind her in that.

01:30:17.560 I spoke at Blexit in Los Angeles a couple months ago, and it is designed to just get black Americans

01:30:24.120 to wake up and recognize, A, their vote counts, and B, they shouldn't have a blind allegiance

01:30:28.900 to any party.

01:30:29.700 So did it, when you saw Kanye West and the way he was treated, I mean, I don't, I'm not

01:30:39.380 a fan of Kanye's music or anything else.

01:30:42.600 I think there are times that I think he's nuts on a lot of things, you know what I mean?

01:30:46.680 Yeah.

01:30:46.880 But I respect him as an individual.

01:30:50.160 I was shocked at how all these people who claim to love him, that he was a genius, literally

01:30:58.780 got to the point overnight, he should be institutionalized.

01:31:02.700 Right.

01:31:02.900 There's something wrong with him.

01:31:04.080 Yeah.

01:31:04.620 There's a chapter in my book I gave to Kanye, because for 18 months, he never tweeted anything,

01:31:11.340 and then his first tweet was, I like the way Candace Owens thinks.

01:31:14.020 And that, A, put her on the map in the black community more so than it ever had been, and

01:31:18.620 B, it gave black Americans the freedom, the approval, if you will, to even listen to a

01:31:24.680 black conservative.

01:31:25.700 Because for so long, for 60 years, it's been so monolithic and a blind allegiance to the

01:31:31.560 Democrat Party, and it's just tradition, it's passed down without even thinking about the

01:31:35.780 actual values.

01:31:37.100 Black Americans need to vote their values.

01:31:38.840 If you're a person of faith, you should be for life.

01:31:41.040 If you want school choice, you shouldn't vote for Democrat.

01:31:43.140 If you want freedom and the ability to be an entrepreneur and make capital, then you

01:31:48.920 shouldn't be a Democrat.

01:31:50.980 People need to wake up to those issues and understand that the conservative values that

01:31:55.860 Donald Trump stands for and supports are actually good for black Americans and good for the black

01:31:59.960 community.

01:32:00.760 How can that message get out from people like you and me, probably more like me, who are

01:32:08.980 not part of the black community?

01:32:10.460 How can we help?

01:32:11.600 What do we do that we don't necessarily see?

01:32:14.720 And you're just like, oh, you dummies.

01:32:17.660 I think what you're doing right now, prime example, having me on the show, giving me the

01:32:21.760 platform to talk and share is amazing.

01:32:24.480 I think more of that has to happen.

01:32:26.020 We have to realize that we have to network together.

01:32:28.740 It's not going to be a one person that does it.

01:32:30.680 Candace is amazing, but she's not going to do it on her own.

01:32:33.440 Brandon Strzok, the walkaway founder, he's doing something in Harlem in a couple of weeks

01:32:37.240 in the inner city, Harlem, putting on a free documental, a documental in a theater and inviting

01:32:43.180 urban black, the black community there to come watch a documental on black folks that

01:32:49.040 have woken up, choose to chose to think for themselves and walk away.

01:32:52.660 It's like the more we can highlight the people that are actually doing something and work

01:32:56.220 together.

01:32:57.380 Like the left is actually really good at working together to try to take people out.

01:33:01.240 We need to work together to highlight and amplify the voices that are making a difference

01:33:05.760 in our country.

01:33:06.440 The only one that is worse than conservatives, well, maybe be Christians.

01:33:12.100 They're bad at working together many times.

01:33:15.040 And the only one that's worse than that are libertarians.

01:33:19.520 That's like the only true libertarian is that one libertarian.

01:33:24.000 Yeah.

01:33:25.160 But we do.

01:33:26.080 We all have to stand together.

01:33:28.720 Yes.

01:33:29.060 That's the only way we're going to win this fight.

01:33:31.160 And I think that we will if we work together.

01:33:33.820 I think it's a battle we'll win.

01:33:35.080 I think we're already winning it.

01:33:36.480 David J.

01:33:37.480 Harris, Jr.

01:33:38.380 is his name.

01:33:39.220 You can get his book.

01:33:40.760 Why I couldn't stay silent at David Harris, Jr.

01:33:43.900 dot com.

01:33:44.800 Good to see you.

01:33:45.960 So good.

01:33:46.620 Thank you so much.

01:33:47.220 Thank you so much.

01:33:47.800 God bless.

01:33:48.400 God bless.

01:33:48.720 Thank you.

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01:35:02.020 Okay, so what's the update with Bubba the Love Sponge?

01:35:19.940 We're making contact here.

01:35:21.300 Okay.

01:35:22.120 I don't have any idea what he has to say or what's going on.

01:35:29.240 Yeah, I'm interested to hear it.

01:35:30.080 I mean, you know, this is typical Media Matters nonsense, right?

01:35:33.780 They go back and they pull clips out of context from shows from a long time ago.

01:35:37.780 2006.

01:35:38.600 Yeah.

01:35:39.620 And, you know, this is sort of ridiculous.

01:35:42.520 We heard from Tucker last night.

01:35:43.760 It'll be interesting to hear what Bubba has to say as well.

01:35:46.540 I mean, I'm amazed that this stuff continues to work on people.

01:35:50.860 Like, you know, you go back and you find old clips.

01:35:53.620 You take them out of context of times, you know, conversations with completely different standards

01:35:57.460 in a completely different time and act as if you're offended by it when you're praising

01:36:02.240 people for doing similar things today when they fit your politics.

01:36:05.800 And then we all act as if this is a legitimate series of complaints.

01:36:11.140 Like, you know, every news station yesterday acting as if this is the worst thing they've

01:36:15.760 ever heard in their entire lives.

01:36:17.260 And it's just so fake.

01:36:18.780 They obviously know this is nonsense.

01:36:21.120 But they just continue to do it because they can get away with it.

01:36:24.660 You know what I keep thinking?

01:36:28.320 Where are thy accusers?

01:36:31.940 You know, cast the first stone.

01:36:33.400 Go ahead.

01:36:33.860 Cast the first stone.

01:36:35.240 I'm not going to condemn you.

01:36:37.060 I'm not going to condemn you.

01:36:38.840 Let me go to Bubba the Love Sponge.

01:36:42.480 Mr. Sponge, how are you, sir?

01:36:46.520 Bubba, are you there?

01:36:47.460 I'm not even hearing the phone at all, Sarah.

01:36:55.060 All right.

01:36:55.740 We'll dial him back, I guess.

01:36:57.280 No, we lost him.

01:36:58.560 All right.

01:36:59.580 But, you know, who are you?

01:37:02.680 Are all of you people in the media, are all of you so sure that this righteousness is not

01:37:11.040 going to come and bite you in the ass?

01:37:12.960 Are you telling me you've never made a joke?

01:37:18.240 It's so fake.

01:37:19.540 Oh, my gosh.

01:37:20.340 It's so fake.

01:37:20.440 It's so fake.

01:37:20.460 Gosh, of course.

01:37:21.580 I love this, too.

01:37:22.680 Like, I mean, it's interesting that it hasn't only been conservatives who have been.

01:37:26.560 I mean, you know, Kevin Hart is a recent example.

01:37:28.760 This James Gunn is no conservative.

01:37:30.780 Lost the Guardians of the Galaxy series over jokes that he made.

01:37:34.220 It's just nonsensical.

01:37:36.060 We're all we're supposed to be all adults.

01:37:39.480 We all understand that, you know, people make jokes sometimes are are off color or whatever.

01:37:45.440 And like and and when the standards change, it's even more ridiculous.

01:37:48.700 But this isn't even about this is not about anything other than advertisers.

01:37:55.760 This is not about what people really believe.

01:37:58.900 This is about getting advertisers to cancel on the Fox News channel because Fox News is

01:38:06.300 going to be spending a lot of money on the 2020 election.

01:38:09.480 And if they can't get anybody to buy these shows, well, then they don't have the money

01:38:14.260 to be able to do the effective coverage that they're going to have to do.

01:38:18.660 And so they're going to have to decide, are we going to are we going to, you know, put

01:38:24.940 up with this boycott or are we going to and put up with this boycott and then have less

01:38:34.800 money, probably more viewers, but less money, or are we going to try to find a way to deal

01:38:40.420 with this boycott and then, you know, have the money to do something, but you won't have

01:38:45.060 the viewers.

01:38:47.800 Ridiculous, as usual.

01:38:48.900 Let's try them one more time.

01:38:50.000 Bubba, are you there?

01:38:51.140 Glenn, Bubba.

01:38:52.040 Hey, how are you, man?

01:38:53.260 I've been trying to get a hold of you all morning, but I'm sorry.

01:38:55.460 I'm sorry.

01:38:56.100 How are you?

01:38:56.420 You got 36,000 affiliates and, you know, it's not Bora Bora, you know.

01:39:01.580 I know.

01:39:02.040 I know.

01:39:02.360 So tell me what, tell me what your take is on this, on this Tucker Carlson issue.

01:39:08.920 It's the snowflaking, can't accept no, refuse to lose mentality that everybody has, you know,

01:39:16.680 where if the other side would just put a good candidate up and worry about, you know, issues

01:39:22.740 at hand and not trying to get people's lives ruined based on technicalities and, I mean,

01:39:29.240 I think it's just absolutely ridiculous, and I think it's basically an assassination or

01:39:34.280 an attempt to assassinate people that do out of the box or different type of programming

01:39:39.400 against the establishment.

01:39:41.500 I think it's trying to quell everybody.

01:39:43.140 Any doubt in your mind that Tucker Carlson is not a racist, a misogynist, or a homophobe?

01:39:56.600 Any doubt?

01:39:57.880 My show is not a credible show, Glenn.

01:40:01.080 We're not newsworthy at all.

01:40:02.780 We're locker room talk.

01:40:06.500 We're, you know, we're those guys, those, you know.

01:40:08.620 And Tucker, when he was, you know, not on the Fox and he was just got let go of MSNBC

01:40:15.280 and he just started the Daily Caller, that's this time period, and it was an uncensored

01:40:19.440 guy locker room talk show.

01:40:21.200 You know, we weren't trying to be, you know, Bubba News talk, you know, crossfire with James

01:40:24.720 Carville.

01:40:25.260 We were just the dudes.

01:40:26.660 And no, he's none of that, Glenn.

01:40:29.040 He's just a regular dude, likes to go fly fishing and maybe smoke an occasional Marlboro.

01:40:33.260 That's all he is, a regular dude, period.

01:40:35.900 So, what do you, what do you take from all of this, Bubba?

01:40:42.840 I take, I take that they have went to the guttural bowels of, of radio me.

01:40:50.140 Like, you know, we're not credible.

01:40:51.880 Like, I mean, they've gone and went and got the autistic kid that like, that has Tourette's

01:40:57.500 and, and took in a few of my, taking a few of my, of my tics.

01:41:01.380 Tucker and I are friends and we talk like dudes.

01:41:03.280 And I think that, I think that this is, and you know, Glenn, I didn't vote for, I'm not

01:41:09.160 either.

01:41:09.440 I voted for myself just so I could say I didn't vote for either one of them.

01:41:13.160 Because I don't like, you know, I don't, we don't do that sort of deal.

01:41:16.940 But I think this is the other side, the left, if you, as everybody calls it, playing their

01:41:21.920 stupid games because they're in trouble and they don't have a candidate.

01:41:25.620 They, and so they got to play the Mueller game and the Roger Stone game and all that

01:41:29.400 kind of game.

01:41:30.140 And now why not talk, take out one of the bigger, more powerful talking heads on the other side?

01:41:37.060 It's, it's chicken crap on the words on your show.

01:41:40.620 I, the worst I could do.

01:41:41.260 Yeah, no, I know.

01:41:42.160 I know it would be different, but let's look.

01:41:44.900 Yeah.

01:41:45.100 We'll keep the guy talk to some other time.

01:41:48.500 I got to tell you, I was, we were, we've been listening.

01:41:50.480 We were doing a Glenn Beckathon trying to get you live on the air and it was their first

01:41:55.560 time in radio because we would have been broadcasting 970 FLA over our station and we

01:42:00.300 were doing a Glenn Beckathon and we talked to a lovely call center woman in San Diego

01:42:04.260 and we were doing updates saying, you're listening to a Glenn Beckathon and we were trying to get

01:42:09.040 Glenn Beck on the air, buddy.

01:42:10.420 Well, we got a lot, we got a lot of mail.

01:42:12.460 We got a lot of mail.

01:42:13.480 I was going to say, I need to get Dom Theodore on the phone or Randy Michaels or Gay Lobs or

01:42:17.540 Roger Stone or Ryan Kilmeade or John Morgan or Bob Pittman.

01:42:22.440 I mean, I know, you know, I'm all Ryan's secret.

01:42:24.920 Glenn, you're so well connected.

01:42:26.620 I need your help, Glenn.

01:42:27.500 What would you do if you were me, Glenn?

01:42:29.140 I would do exactly what you're doing and I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take any

01:42:34.140 of this, this crap.

01:42:35.280 I mean, you are, you know who you are, you know what you do and the fact that you don't

01:42:41.760 do any politics, A, I would continue to do that.

01:42:45.120 Um, I would like to hear from you on what your audience is saying, seeing that you don't,

01:42:50.740 that you talk to Democrats and Republicans.

01:42:53.160 You're not a, you're, you're not choosing sides.

01:42:56.980 No.

01:42:57.160 What are the people in your audience saying about this?

01:43:00.700 Well, not about this necessarily.

01:43:02.680 This is just a witch hunt.

01:43:04.060 This is, you know what this is?

01:43:05.060 This is pathetic.

01:43:06.100 Like I would hope that somebody could come up with a far better scandal than this.

01:43:10.200 This is ridiculous.

01:43:11.100 Trust me.

01:43:11.520 I'm the King of Scandals and this is child's place compared to what I usually get into.

01:43:15.820 I mean, Glenn, this is romper room stuff compared to what I usually do.

01:43:19.040 No, I know.

01:43:19.280 But the pulse of America, Glenn, to kind of give, I'm 52 years old, Glenn, you know that

01:43:23.040 I've been in radio or whatever.

01:43:24.760 You know, you and I used to go to the Zychex Lounge every once in a while.

01:43:27.220 4,002 Gandy, my man.

01:43:28.820 I mean, you know, we're both, I can, you, I'm the, I'm kind of a guy's guy.

01:43:32.600 Yeah.

01:43:32.740 And, you know, I think this is kind of the pulse of America, not necessarily about this

01:43:36.460 particular issue, but just Trump and the Democrats and the Republicans and all this is that I

01:43:42.860 think most men think that Trump's doing a pretty good job.

01:43:46.940 And this comes from a guy that's not very conformed, but he kind of needs to be at times

01:43:51.460 a little more presidential, just a tad.

01:43:53.960 I like what he stands for, but just a tad.

01:43:56.700 Like somebody needs to take that damn Twitter thing away from him and kind of chill out a little

01:44:00.780 bit, Donnie.

01:44:01.260 That's what I'm saying.

01:44:03.300 Have you got a good message?

01:44:04.840 I think that's a, I think that's a great message because I think that's what people, people

01:44:08.860 who support Donald Trump generally think that, you know what, look, he's got his own issues

01:44:14.960 and he's, please stop, please stop tweeting.

01:44:18.100 A little bit.

01:44:19.000 Don't, don't, don't stop tweeting altogether.

01:44:20.700 Just back it down about 32%.

01:44:23.700 Okay.

01:44:25.200 Have you talked to Tucker?

01:44:26.920 I did.

01:44:27.500 I talked to him just a little bit yesterday because he was in the middle of this and I

01:44:31.120 felt, I felt as if his monologue, I almost, I almost cried afterwards because it was just

01:44:37.240 like, not only did he stand his ground because he didn't do anything wrong, but he stood,

01:44:41.820 you know, as much as the, the democratic talking heads, Glenn, maybe want to get behind

01:44:47.460 this, the CNNs and what have you.

01:44:48.860 At the end of the day, journalists need to take a long, hard look as to what Tucker's

01:44:53.220 saying because they're trying to take your freedom of speech and the way that you look

01:44:58.240 at things right or left or indifferent away.

01:45:01.060 They're trying to quell.

01:45:02.800 What the people don't realize is not the left is trying to quell everybody, not just the,

01:45:07.780 the, the, the Michael Savages and the Glenn Beck's and the, and the Tucker Carlson.

01:45:11.400 And they take a shot at the biggest guy.

01:45:13.460 And the biggest guy basically gave him the middle finger.

01:45:16.340 And I thought his monologue was brilliant as a broadcaster and as a talent.

01:45:21.120 Bubba the Love Sponge.

01:45:22.000 Not that I'm either.

01:45:22.920 I'm barely, I'm barely either, Glenn.

01:45:24.900 Thank you so much.

01:45:26.800 Honest to God, Glenn, honor.

01:45:27.900 We have a lot of great friends and let's keep in touch.

01:45:30.220 I've always honestly admired your work.

01:45:32.920 And if you have a three X Christmas sweater, I'd like to have it.

01:45:37.920 You're listening to Glenn.

01:45:39.740 He used to have those three X's.

01:45:41.000 They don't fit you anymore.

01:45:41.920 You're at four or five now.

01:45:43.080 Shut up.

01:45:44.080 All right.

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01:46:52.340 John Lott.

01:46:54.120 He is a doctor.

01:46:56.380 Dr.

01:46:57.000 John Lott.

01:46:58.300 He is an economist and a recognized expert on guns and crimes.

01:47:02.520 He has written some of the best books on guns.

01:47:05.400 He, uh, was instrumental in our book on control.

01:47:09.760 Welcome to the program.

01:47:11.360 John Lott.

01:47:12.520 Great to talk to you again, Glenn.

01:47:14.400 Hey, John, I, I wanted to get you on about two things, Washington state and what's happening

01:47:19.360 there.

01:47:19.760 And also these red flag laws that the Republican Senate is actually, uh, suggesting and, and,

01:47:29.240 uh, what's his name?

01:47:30.920 Um, uh, Lindsey Graham has, has said he's already talked to the president.

01:47:35.260 And the president's on board.

01:47:36.580 And I think this is a horrible law.

01:47:40.360 Can you, can you explain exactly what the law is, if it's effective and whether you agree

01:47:48.120 with me or not?

01:47:49.500 Right.

01:47:50.220 No, I, I definitely agree with you.

01:47:52.260 Look, uh, it's kind of like the old Tom Cruise, uh, movie minority report where they're trying

01:47:58.940 to predict whether somebody is going to commit a crime in the future.

01:48:03.040 Uh, and, uh, you know, the, if you talk to them, most of these laws are fairly vague.

01:48:10.420 They just say, you have a complaint, a judge will look at it.

01:48:14.940 There'll be no initial hearing that will be there.

01:48:17.460 And maybe the person's gun can be taken away for up to 21 days and then there'll be a hearing

01:48:22.860 and there, and there's no experts like they're used to have where they're being in mental

01:48:27.380 health experts.

01:48:28.360 In fact, they're really trying to get much broader than mental health.

01:48:32.500 Most of these laws don't even mention, uh, the term mental health in them.

01:48:36.920 Uh, you talk to the people who enforce these things and you say, well, what do you look

01:48:41.440 for?

01:48:42.120 And they'll say, well, we look for predictors for somebody committing a crime.

01:48:46.800 So do they have a criminal record?

01:48:49.320 And you'll say, well, you already have laws from that.

01:48:52.040 If you have a felony, you're banned for life from having a gun, even if it's a nonviolent

01:48:56.880 felony.

01:48:57.820 Uh, depending upon the state, like California, almost any misdemeanor can ban you from being

01:49:02.980 able to go in and get a gun.

01:49:04.020 Uh, and, but what they don't want to have is they want to have it so you can be banned

01:49:10.660 if you simply have, uh, an arrest, but not a conviction or somebody files a complaint and

01:49:17.500 there's not an arrest.

01:49:19.020 So there is, there is, there is the way I read this is if somebody said, let's say, John, you

01:49:25.980 get a divorce and it's an ugly divorce and you have a lot of guns and your, your ex in the

01:49:31.380 battle, uh, says, uh, to the police, you know, my husband, I think he's unstable and I think

01:49:38.160 he's, you know, he's got a lot of guns and I'm, I'm worried that he might do something.

01:49:42.660 They have the right then to go in and take your guns without any kind of hearing on that.

01:49:48.800 Is that accurate?

01:49:49.920 Without even notifying you, you'll find somebody at your door at five o'clock in the morning.

01:49:54.260 Right.

01:49:54.840 This has happened in some places.

01:49:56.160 And, uh, and, and the standard of evidence is very low in many of these cases.

01:50:03.100 You can have to what they call reasonable cause, which is just a hunch.

01:50:08.180 If the, if the judge just has a hunch based on slightly more than a hunch based on the

01:50:14.320 complaint that the ex wife has filed or the wife involved in the divorce, uh, that can be

01:50:20.020 sufficient.

01:50:20.500 And even when they have a hearing after 21 days or so, depending upon the state, uh, again,

01:50:26.640 they don't bring in experts, uh, and it can simply be, you know, is there a 51% chance,

01:50:34.000 you know, slightly more than a coin flip that you could be a danger.

01:50:38.100 You could have your guns taken away on a long-term basis.

01:50:40.940 What is the long-term plan here?

01:50:43.100 What is this?

01:50:43.720 What is this?

01:50:45.000 Because they're assembling, you know, as you see, John, we haven't talked about this,

01:50:49.240 but I'm sure you're, you're on this, uh, far more than I am.

01:50:55.060 Um, they're assembling by, um, taking away a little right here and a little right there,

01:51:01.820 and then pressuring the financial system not to do business, uh, with gun manufacturers,

01:51:08.640 et cetera, et cetera.

01:51:09.700 They're, all they're doing is making it absolutely impossible on many levels.

01:51:16.820 And that way they can say, we never touched the second amendment.

01:51:20.400 Right.

01:51:21.100 No, it's clear that they want to make it costly for people to have guns.

01:51:24.980 Uh, and they do it in many different ways, as you say, uh, in Washington, DC, where they

01:51:30.920 just voted in the house on these universal so-called universal background checks, which

01:51:35.920 are background checks on any private transfers of a gun.

01:51:40.040 Um, it costs $125 to do a transfer on a gun per gun.

01:51:45.100 I mean, per gun.

01:51:46.460 If I, if I give my son all of my guns and I give him 10 guns, it's $1,250 because he

01:51:56.360 has to pay for the transfer and the quote background check.

01:52:00.260 You're not checking the gun.

01:52:01.700 You're checking him.

01:52:03.240 Check him once.

01:52:04.300 They have, uh, exemption for right now in terms of immediate family members.

01:52:08.780 But if you gave it to me or if a grandfather gave it to, uh, his grandson or something

01:52:13.540 like that, you're right.

01:52:14.700 I mean, and the ridiculousness of it is that you're having the background check on the individual.

01:52:21.160 It's not like there's a background check really on each gun to check the gun has a criminal

01:52:26.400 record.

01:52:26.920 Right.

01:52:27.100 And, and so, uh, you know, it just, it's obvious that they just went out of the way

01:52:33.580 to make it cost.

01:52:34.220 I'll give you an example.

01:52:35.420 When other states have passed these laws, I get phone calls sometimes from some state

01:52:41.140 legislators.

01:52:41.700 A few years ago when Colorado passed this law, I got a call, asked me what amendment I would

01:52:46.900 put up on the bill.

01:52:47.740 My suggestion was to put up an amendment that would exempt people below the poverty level

01:52:52.740 from having to pay the new state tax on each gun that was transferred with the exception

01:52:58.400 of two pro-gun Democrats in the state house.

01:53:01.680 Every other Democrat voted against exempting people below the poverty level from having

01:53:07.080 to pay the new state tax.

01:53:08.160 How many taxes can you think of that Democrats will fight tooth and nail against exempting

01:53:14.660 somebody below the poverty level from having to pay?

01:53:16.980 And it just, you know, if my research convinces me of anything, it's poor minorities, particularly

01:53:25.780 poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas who benefit the most from having the option

01:53:30.780 to be able to go and protect themselves.

01:53:32.620 These fees aren't going to stop you or I from being able to go and buy a gun, but poor blacks

01:53:38.800 who live in these high crime areas, it may be enough easily to stop them from owning a gun

01:53:44.520 legally to protect themselves and their families.

01:53:46.920 So quickly, before I move on to the Washington state debacle, let me just leave the audience

01:53:54.440 with this.

01:53:55.300 John has put together a white paper along with Carlisle Moody from College of William and

01:54:02.120 Mary and the Crime Prevention Research Center.

01:54:05.140 This was their conclusion on red flag laws.

01:54:07.920 Now, remember, this is your Republican Senate that is doing this.

01:54:13.100 He writes the conclusion.

01:54:15.560 The red flag laws had no significant effect on murder, suicide, the number of people killed

01:54:21.380 in mass public shootings, robbery, aggravated assault or burglary.

01:54:25.300 But there is some evidence that rape rates rise.

01:54:31.440 These laws apparently do not save lives.

01:54:34.880 All right.

01:54:35.580 Let me switch to Washington state.

01:54:37.660 Washington state said that if you can't sell a gun to anybody who is 20, unless they're 21

01:54:45.880 and they agree to all these other things, the sheriffs say we're not imposing, we're not

01:54:52.500 enforcing this law.

01:54:53.840 We find that it is unconstitutional and we're not we're not going to do that.

01:54:59.000 Um, and now the state is going after those sheriffs and going after, uh, FFLs, uh, which is, you

01:55:08.380 know, a private dealer that they, if they say they're not going to, they're not going to

01:55:12.940 abide by that either.

01:55:13.960 They're going to put them out of business and they're talking about jail time.

01:55:17.260 Um, what is, what is the story on this, John?

01:55:21.020 Right.

01:55:21.620 Well, Washington state, Paul Allen and others have passed three initiatives in the last

01:55:27.980 three elections.

01:55:28.640 And there's just a myriad of complicated laws now in Washington state for going, owning

01:55:34.920 a gun.

01:55:35.440 This last one had everything from 10 day waiting periods for buying a semi-automatic rifle to,

01:55:42.280 uh, raising the age for somebody to be able to own a gun up to, uh, age 21, uh, to creating a

01:55:50.460 gun registry to, as we were just talking about before, adding in fees and taxes, essentially,

01:55:56.360 uh, on top of the cost that they had already imposed for people being able to go in and own

01:56:02.360 a gun.

01:56:02.720 It's just, uh, I mean, people have to understand how complicated the existing laws are even before

01:56:11.020 they had this initiative.

01:56:12.160 If you, if you had a female friend, uh, who is being stalked or threatened and she calls

01:56:17.200 you up late in the evening, asking you to go and borrow a gun for a few days until she

01:56:22.680 can go, uh, to the store and, and buy one herself, uh, you'd be creating, committing a

01:56:28.660 crime, uh, unless you, unless the attacker, the stalker was physically there in front of

01:56:35.000 you all when you loaned her the gun.

01:56:36.880 And as soon as he left, even if he knew he was going to be coming back later, she'd have

01:56:40.820 to give you back the gun.

01:56:41.880 This is ridiculous.

01:56:43.140 This is ridiculous.

01:56:44.500 So do, do they have a leg to stand on when it comes to the sheriffs?

01:56:47.920 Can they, can they take these sheriffs down?

01:56:52.040 Well, the thing is the sheriffs are a creation of state law.

01:56:56.900 And so, uh, uh, you know, the federal government can't force individual sheriffs to do things,

01:57:02.600 but, uh, states can have a lot of leeway in terms of, uh, of, you know, what they can

01:57:09.820 make sheriffs do.

01:57:11.420 And, uh, you know, it's heroic in some sense for these sheriffs, despite the risks that they're

01:57:16.560 facing personally themselves to be able to go and, uh, object to these rules.

01:57:22.420 Uh, I mean, they're elected office holders, but, uh, you know, it's still the state that

01:57:27.780 sets up the rules by which they operate.

01:57:29.640 Hmm.

01:57:30.660 John, um, thank you so much.

01:57:32.440 And, uh, we'll stay in touch.

01:57:33.840 Appreciate all the work that you do.

01:57:35.580 God bless.

01:57:37.280 Crime research, uh, dot org.

01:57:39.500 He is with crime research.org.

01:57:41.840 That's how you can follow him.

01:57:42.960 His name is John Lott Jr.

01:57:45.260 If you've not read any of his books and you are, um, interested in the bill of rights and

01:57:51.540 the reason why, um, the people should have access to arms and yes, even the scary black

01:57:59.340 ones, um, boy, gun racism just doesn't stop with the left.

01:58:04.180 Does it?

01:58:05.140 Um, you need to read his books.

01:58:07.360 An easy one to get started is the book control.

01:58:10.500 It, uh, is, has my name on it, but we had the best in, uh, gun researchers and, uh, and,

01:58:19.440 and the people who do this for a living really support that book and, uh, fill that book.

01:58:25.940 We had about four or five different people on it.

01:58:28.460 Uh, and they were the top of the line, uh, the people who are fighting for your right of

01:58:34.720 the second amendment.

01:58:35.320 The name of the book is control.

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02:01:55.020 as well and all kinds of hatred and we're going to kind of back off of Omar.

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02:02:10.980 You have to have, there has to be a place where people can actually do it.

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02:02:26.580 I want Tucker Carlson to know I stand next to him.

02:02:30.120 That doesn't mean that I believe in or excuse anything that he said or didn't say.

02:02:35.000 I don't know.

02:02:36.300 To me, it was in the context of a stupid radio show in 2006.

02:02:41.560 I don't believe that about Tucker.

02:02:43.620 I believe that he would say things like that in, uh, in a comedy show 12 years ago, but the

02:02:51.660 world was a vastly different place 12 years ago.

02:02:55.000 You know, just like they can't imagine that, that, uh, Omar would say these anti-Semitic

02:03:01.180 things.

02:03:01.580 She just didn't understand America.

02:03:03.880 She really, she just, you know, she came here in the nineties and she just doesn't understand

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02:03:09.660 That's why she's saying those things.

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The Glenn Beck Program - March 12, 2019

Costume of Moral Puffery？｜ Guests： Justin Haskins, David J. Harris, & John Lott ｜ 3⧸12⧸19

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