Debunking the Worst of the Pro-Abortion Myths | 6⧸27⧸22
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1 hour and 56 minutes
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On today's show, Pat and Stu discuss the Roe v Wade Supreme Court ruling and how it affects the economy, the stock market, and everything else going on in the world right now. They also talk about the latest in the Trump administration and what it means for the future of the economy.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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The Roe ruling actually came down while you guys were on the air on Friday, right?
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That every single Supreme Court release of opinion happens during hour two of this program.
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So, Pat, we've had many memories over the years of this happening.
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Like the Obamacare decision happening live on the air every single time.
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We will have Supreme Court opinions coming down in our hour two today as well.
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I mean, obviously, the Dobbs case for abortion, Roe versus Wade being overturned, is going to be the marquee thing for God only knows how long.
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But there's a huge case with the EPA and the administrative state is on trial, basically, in that one.
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And that one may be more specific to everybody's life, right?
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Like, that's one that can affect everyday life, where this is a case basically questioning whether these, you know, administrative state apparatus can just do things on their own.
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You know, can they just what if they want to regulate CO2 emissions on their own?
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I mean, this country has been completely remade from what it was supposed to be by the administrative state.
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There's a huge one on the border coming up about the remain in Mexico law.
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So we will have those in hour two of the program.
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And probably I don't think we'll get eight in one day.
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They'll probably announce another decision day this week.
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The Dobbs case, though, is still it's not a one day story, Pad.
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Did you did Biden speak in time for you guys to play his thoughts on Friday?
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I talked about it on Studios America on my show, which airs later on in the day here on Blaze TV.
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But I don't think I don't think it happened during the show.
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Here's here's what Joe had to say about about the ruling initially.
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It's not hyperbole to suggest a very solemn moment.
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The Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away the constitutional right from the American people.
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It's a sad day for the court and for the country.
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Fifty years ago, Roe v. Wade was decided and has been the law of the land since then.
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This landmark case protected a woman's right to choose.
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A right to make intensely personal decisions with her doctor.
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The women have the power to control their own destiny.
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And it reinforced a fundamental right of privacy.
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The right of each of us to choose how to live our lives.
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You don't have the privacy to kill human beings.
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As chairman and a ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee...
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Is that why they always make the distinction public execution?
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Vice president and now as president of the United States.
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I've overseen more Supreme Court confirmations than anyone today.
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I believe Roe v. Wade was the correct decision.
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...to privacy and liberty in matters of family and personal autonomy.
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Which you don't have with the vaccine, by the way.
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...to a careful balance between a woman's right to...
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...and the state's ability to regulate later in her pregnancy.
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Arguing there is a broad national consensus is not one of them.
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It's one that I think the other side is completely insane on.
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I mean, frankly, I can't even understand the arguments most of the time.
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However, I can even acknowledge there's not a national consensus on abortion.
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I mean, there's a national consensus basically on certain aspects of it.
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Like, for example, you shouldn't have it in the third trimester.
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There's basically a national consensus that the stated platform position of the Democratic
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Other than that, really, there's not much of one.
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I mean, life of the mother, even in all these states that are, you know, banning abortion
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like Texas, there's still an exception for life of the mother.
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That was basically in the Kavanaugh concurrence that, you know, signified, look, if you go
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after life of the mother, we're not going to rule on your side on that.
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Like, I mean, that one seems to be the one that there's pretty much consensus on, I guess.
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But not a lot of aspects of abortion there's consensus on, Pat.
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And, you know, even he is at odds with himself.
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I do not view abortion as a choice and a right.
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And I think we should be focusing on how to limit the number of abortions.
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And they ought to be able to have a common ground and consensus to do that.
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Which, by the way, he was still, you know, in public office then.
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I mean, and, you know, I want to ask you this, Pat, because I was thinking about this over
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the weekend, there's so much to think about in this case, and we could talk, we could honestly
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But would this, could this have happened in the era where Democrats sounded like that?
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Like, when Democrats were pitching the safe, legal, and rare thing, when they were saying,
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look, it's always a tragedy, this is a, essentially, a necessary evil, was their case.
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It's a terrible, terrible thing, we all hate it, but gosh, sometimes these circumstances
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We went from the safe, legal, and rare era to the shout your abortion era, and we see
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I think they played their hand, they overplayed their hand.
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Because of some of that craziness, you could argue that's why Trump got elected in the first
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You could argue that was why Republicans were more apt to go along with justices who were,
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who they were really confident would overturn Roe versus Wade.
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I think you can argue, you know, remember, Republicans had enough justices to overturn
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And the reason why it didn't happen was because of people like Anthony Kennedy, who would flake
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at the last minute and decide, oh, well, we've got a compromise position.
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Both Roe versus Wade and Casey versus Planned Parenthood were terrible decisions.
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And a lot of it, especially Casey, seemed to be fueled on this, well, we can't really
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You know, I don't think it's right to shake things up that much.
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We've obviously seen that sort of behavior from John Roberts.
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And again, he even, he essentially says in his concurring opinion, yeah, these guys
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are pretty much right, but it seems mean, you know, it seems a little upsetting and I
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I mean, it really does seem like he, he even is clear how bad it is.
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So his opinion would have been, okay, Mississippi can keep their 15 week thing.
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We're not going to overturn Roe versus Wade, but 15 weeks is rational.
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He wanted to do essentially what Casey did, which was come up with some new standard that
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as, as Alito pointed out, neither side in this case even asked for, it wasn't just like
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it was the conservative side saying, Hey, let's get rid of this.
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And the liberal side was saying, ah, let just 15 weeks or give us some other new standard
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He really is agonizing, but I am still shocked.
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You, you and I have said many times, there's no way they're going to overturn Roe versus
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Do you have any confidence this court will do it?
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The Democrats all thought, yeah, oh, they're going to.
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The one time I will be very pleased to admit both they are right.
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And to be clear, in some ways, the same things we always worried about, one of the conservative
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And it sort of occurred with Kavanaugh, who wrote a concurring opinion that basically said,
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I mean, I'm going along with this, but I'm a little wishy-washy on it.
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But, you know, like, it almost didn't happen this time.
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Like, when it comes to Dobbs, he went along with it.
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But he did not want to overturn Roe v. Wade, which is incredible.
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And it's incredible to step back at how many times Republicans missed with these Supreme
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I mean, they just missed and missed and missed and missed.
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The only person you'd say, we don't have evidence of them missing on this particular case, is
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Who seemingly went 3-for-3, or at least got 3-for-3 on this.
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Now, a lot of people have fought for this for a really long time.
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But President Trump deserves a lot of credit for this.
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And interestingly, he said he would come in and pick off a list of 21 Supreme Court justices,
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basically hand-selected by the Federalist Society.
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And so the Federalist Society also deserves a lot of credit on this.
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He picked Gorsuch from that list and then expanded the list.
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So his other two picks, both Kavanaugh and Barrett, were not on the initial list.
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He did not actually pick all three justices from the list.
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And the belief is, particularly with Kavanaugh, that Kennedy was just not going to step down
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unless he had the guy he wanted to step in for him.
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Anyway, long story short, he picked three, and they were all right on this one.
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And honestly, like, we could talk about elections, we could talk about future appointments, all
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of that, none of it, I mean, like, Kavanaugh could suck from here on out, and it would be
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But the fact that this came through is already Trump's legacy, right?
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You know, look, people, and we bash him all the time.
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And we, also, Mitch McConnell deserves credit for this.
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He delayed that, which is why they call it illegitimate, illegitimate Supreme Court.
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Because they waited for the next, no, it's perfectly constitutional.
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They did something they're perfectly within their rights to do.
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You're talking about the Merrick Garland delay.
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He waited until Trump became president, which gave us Gorsuch.
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Although, I will point out, the Republicans held the Senate at that time.
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So, even if there was a vote and he didn't hold the line, they likely would have rejected
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But, I mean, he also pushed, you know, he got all three of these through the Senate.
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And then the third name we really need to give credit to, Pat, is Harry Reid.
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Because, without Harry Reid upending the judicial filibuster in 2013.
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Elizabeth Warren's asking for packing the court.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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There were some protesters over the weekend, and some of them making incredible points.
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Here's a lovely young lady with a message about her uterus holding up a sign.
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And I believe it says, for those just listening on radio,
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if my uterus shot bullets, would it have more rights?
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But this is a version, essentially, of a very viral tweet that went around that said,
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And you're just like, guys, do you understand how dumb you are?
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I mean, I know you can't figure these things out.
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But I'm curious if you're just self-aware enough to realize how stupid you are.
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You get to these things and you're just like, gosh, you know, this isn't a game.
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And I might not think, I might not know what it means.
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You know, in the Princess Bride sense, I may not know what that word means.
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I keep saying that word and I may not know what it means.
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I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Because it does not seem plausible to me that half the country could believe such stupid
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We were just kind of about to get into this sign that was being carried by an abortion supporter over the weekend.
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And if my uterus shot bullets, would it have more rights?
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I think if your uterus can shoot bullets, it should be...
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I would support a constitutional amendment to that effect.
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And that's kind of the thing you bump into here with these brilliant points from the left over and over and over again.
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About gun rights as opposed to abortion rights.
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This is the fundamental misunderstanding with your brilliance, guys.
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And they really do think they're on to something there.
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And the only reason they do, Pat, is because these two rulings came down one after another in two straight days.
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So it's just in their very shallow brains still.
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They remember the Supreme Court said something about guns they didn't like yesterday.
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So they're like, what if we tie these two things together?
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And then you increase your following by 100,000.
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And you get 265,000 retweets and 800,000 likes.
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And then people take screenshots and they post them on their Instagram stories.
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And everyone goes around and talks about what an incredible idea.
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The fundamental biggest part of the problem here, Pat.
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There isn't a constitutional right for abortion.
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Not that it was a right and we took it away because we don't think women should have rights.
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But that the right does not exist in the Constitution, as has been admitted for decades by not only conservative legal scholars, but also liberal ones who say, hey, we really like abortion.
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We really think it should be in the Constitution, but it's not.
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Including Ruth Bader Ginsburg for a really long time.
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She was a little bit, I think, radicalized once she got into the Supreme Court.
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It took a while, but she turned around on it a little bit.
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That's not quite clear, though, at the beginning.
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She wanted abortion, but realized it was not in the Constitution.
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So, and the other side of this is, the Second Amendment is in the Constitution.
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So, the thing you don't like is in the Constitution, and the thing you do like isn't in the Constitution.
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This is why it's hard for you to understand these things, because the left has this understanding of constitutional law, Pat, which basically says, if I want it, it's in there.
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That's how Sonia Sotomayor makes every decision.
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And just to put a bit of a finer point on this one particular dumb argument about women's rights versus guns rights, women can own guns.
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So, it's difficult to make the argument that guns have more rights than women when women can own them.
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And it's hard to say, like, it's like arguing, you know, a slave has more rights than its owner.
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It's like, if party one owns party two, party two does not have more rights than party one.
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So, this point in particular, while wildly popular in the left, is so stupid.
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I mean, it really is difficult to overstate the emotional stupidity we witnessed.
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Now, we did, of course, see, you know, protests erupt into violence across the country.
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We did see bro-abortion protesters try to storm the Arizona state capitol.
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But generally speaking, the entire country is not on fire.
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I mean, they got something they didn't like and for at least two days did not set the
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Also, NBC News analyzed for abortion supporters the distance to the nearest open abortion clinic
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In 21 states that either have pre-existing or pending state-level abortion bans.
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For someone living in Salt Lake City, it will require driving six hours and traveling roughly
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To the nearest open clinic in Steamboat Springs, Colorado.
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They're going to be inconvenienced to kill their baby.
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You should be able to do it much easier than that.
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You should have an abortion clinic in every neighborhood and it should be within walking
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Well, I mean, I remember I'm old enough to remember when everyone had an abortion clinic
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You know, when you remember those days when you'd walk down the hall.
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And this is before these conservatives got in control.
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I still have the abortion room in my house, though.
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But usually, basically, the typical house would come with an abortion fun room.
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And in there would be, the doctor would just live there.
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Somebody in the house got pregnant and didn't want to.
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You can just walk down there whenever you needed to.
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You walk in, you get your abortion, you go back to the couch.
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Now, this is men or women could get the abortion, right?
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I mean, we're talking, the men with the uterus.
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Men straighting men could walk right down the hall of their home.
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Or men straighting people would be more correct.
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I'd be more comfortable with men straighting people.
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And now these conservatives have taken over and turned us into a Handmaid's Tale.
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There's another brilliant observation that people use every minute of every day on social media.
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And it's very, very well done as a, you know, as a production.
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It's a, you know, they spent a lot of money on it.
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There's been a lot of entertainment over the past, let's say, century.
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Can you pick any movie, any book, any show, anything else, a song, anything other than Handmaid's Tale?
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Are you saying Handmaid's Tale doesn't fit their narrative?
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And it's bizarre to think that they would because, you know, like, for example, they're like,
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Actually, there was many more states that banned it then, which shows you it's not a constitutional right.
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Because three, when they passed the 14th Amendment that they based this ridiculous Roe versus Wade ruling on, three quarters of states banned it entirely.
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And they're like, well, that's what they meant.
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Why would they not address that then when three quarters of states had banned it entirely when they passed the amendment?
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And then, of course, Gorsuch made that point very clearly.
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But, like, we're going to a place that we are still going to be, we're going to have abortion available in this country at levels far more liberal, far more liberal than Europe.
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You might, as you point out, Pat, have to get in a car.
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From Boise, Idaho, the drive is more than 250 miles to the Walla Walla Health Center in Washington.
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Get this, a patient in Idaho Falls won't even be able to get to the nearest clinic, approximately 290 miles away in Helena, Montana, without a car.
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Meaning there is no bus service and you can't walk there.
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Did they take our abortion in-house idea seriously?
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Increasingly, abortions are done by pill many times through the mail.
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So, actually, I joke about having the abortion in the house, but that is happening in a lot of cases right now.
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Maybe the majority of cases and certainly the majority going forward in a lot of these states.
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Because I'm interested, because I don't even think that's true, because there is an organization.
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Now, Steamboat Springs is, let's say, I mean, it's not really that close to the border of Colorado.
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Looking at it now, you know, you'd have to drive a while, Pat.
00:35:00.560
However, you don't know about the new mobile abortion clinics they're making.
00:35:10.360
This is unlike walk down the hall and have an abortion in your house with a doctor who lives there.
00:35:18.680
They are building, like, Winnebago's, and they're driving them to the borders of these states.
00:35:25.200
So you can just hop right across the border, get your abortion, and go home the same day.
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And they're doing it with pills and surgical abortions.
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And in addition to that, Pat, they're arranging charter bus transportation and flights, free flights, for people to go to these areas.
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They're just setting this program up now because it just happened this weekend.
00:35:49.440
But they're setting up charter buses to go from wherever you are.
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You know, the wheels of the bus go round and round.
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And you drive with all your abortion-receiving friends.
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And you go, and you just wipe out an entire generation of children and then come home.
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I know the test program for this happens to be in Colorado.
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So if you happen to live around Colorado, fear not.
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You can just wipe out an entire football team of kids on one bus.
00:36:41.320
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
00:37:01.440
You know, we were just talking about the availability of abortions.
00:37:06.400
And NBC News, in fact, trying to help people find where they can get an abortion in the nearest city or state and all of these things.
00:37:15.540
But the other thing that's going on is companies are going to cover your travel costs for employees to get an abortion.
00:37:27.760
So some of the companies that have already said, look, we'll pay for your abortion and we'll send you to the nearest place.
00:37:36.040
I mean, Amazon is promising people $4,000 to get an abortion.
00:37:40.440
It doesn't cost $4,000 to get an abortion or to even fly to get an abortion.
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I know that's funny, too, because I doubt they're going to be direct payments.
00:37:50.960
They're going to go probably to the employee who can say, yeah, it costs me $4,200.
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Because Amazon, I've got news for you, is not going to be checking.
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They're not going to ask for a note that says, I mean, this could be a new business for me.
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Hawaii's the only place where you can get an abortion from where I am.
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Once a month, I'm in Hawaii for my quote unquote abortion.
00:38:50.100
Dick's Sporting Goods has offered their employees up to $4,000 in travel and expense reimbursement.
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Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Levi's, of course, what a hideous company they've become.
00:39:06.000
Of course, Amazon with the $4,000, Starbucks, Citigroup, Yelp, Apple, Match, and Bumble.
00:39:18.120
It's amazing, too, how many things are not covered by health insurance from these companies that constantly are in battles with their employees about when they have actual illnesses and they can't get them treated.
00:39:31.520
They just try so hard to make this seem like it's health care.
00:39:34.460
And like, look, it's just that's not what it is.
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You know, I really do think the left and I don't want them to benefit, of course, but they would they would benefit by putting themselves back in the position that Joe Biden had in 2006 to say, like, this isn't health care.
00:39:52.740
That's a bad argument, in my view, but it's one that would connect with a lot of people in the country, unlike shout your abortion and we as a company will pay for your vacation to get one.
00:40:03.160
Yeah, that's that's not a winning argument to the American people.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program this week.
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You know, something we talk about from time to time is
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It's more of a religion, I think, than even climate change is.
00:43:35.220
The fact that they can kill babies is just so important to them.
00:43:44.240
And so when they perceive that they've lost that right,
00:43:48.340
which, again, they really haven't lost the right.
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There's still going to be places where you can get abortions if you really want it.
00:44:06.800
She's got knee pads on because she's very animated about the Roe v. Wade decision.
00:44:33.540
But in her case, she should be able to abort her kids.
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I don't think any of us are arguing for her to be a parent.
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It's so weird, too, the performative nature of it.
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Because, you know, if you're listening to radio,
00:44:51.680
you can only hear the screaming and the bleeping.
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She's in a leopard print, like, onesie thing, leotard deal.
00:45:00.480
And someone else, crucially, is holding the camera.
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as if they think this is a good representation of their movement.
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Hey, honey, you film me while I throw a pillow down
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We are now in the middle of Supreme Court time.
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I think, I don't know if you had him on, Pat, on Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:45:48.240
A coach who was praying at the 50-yard line after his games,
00:46:02.600
Again, something that's not in the U.S. Constitution.
00:46:06.960
Another thing that isn't in the U.S. Constitution.
00:46:09.800
But that one was written by Gorsuch, a 6-3 decision.
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As you would expect, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan on the wrong side of that,
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That was one of the three or four big ones remaining.
00:46:27.220
How do you see that any other way than slapping that down?
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you should know the Constitution well enough to understand separation of church and state
00:46:43.400
is not really a thing in the United States Constitution.
00:46:47.860
The only thing about the church and state is that the state shall not establish a religion.
00:46:55.340
They shall not make no law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
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I mean, literally to the point, Pat, that they encouraged states to form their own state churches.
00:47:11.640
There were state churches in effect when this went on.
00:47:15.240
One of the first acts of the Congress was to have a prayer.
00:47:22.040
And, of course, we still have congressional days of prayer from time to time.
00:47:32.220
We're not even talking about like, oh, well, Congress should get together and pray every
00:47:47.660
This is basically a coach who, after the games, because he had a crazy life and decided
00:47:53.860
after all these games would end, he said, you know what?
00:48:00.880
And after these games, I'm just going to go to the 50-yard line, take a knee, say a silent
00:48:21.220
Now, of course, in a private business like that, he doesn't actually have a right to do
00:48:27.460
Now, he can't get on the field because he's such a terrible quarterback.
00:48:30.300
But if he could get on the field, I don't necessarily care if he does it.
00:48:34.320
I don't take my political advice from athletes.
00:48:39.840
I try to come up with those opinions on my own.
00:48:42.160
So they can come up with their own dumb opinions all they want and express them however they
00:48:48.720
They can absolutely stop them from doing that if they want to.
00:48:52.220
But, however, like, I guess you're able to fire a coach for just taking a knee and praying.
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This First Amendment, the freedom of religion, does not stop at your door.
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Just like we just learned, or at least the left just learned, with the Second Amendment.
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The Second Amendment also doesn't stop at your front door.
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It is a right, and you can carry your gun around, and they shall issue it to you, that
00:49:25.060
So, anyway, long story short, that is a big case.
00:49:28.560
Probably one of the biggest ones remaining, that you are apparently...
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This court, I will say, has been good on these issues.
00:49:38.540
Let me give credit where credit is due as well to First Liberty Institute.
00:49:42.080
Friends of the show, you know, all those guys over there, Jeremy Dice, and, you know, the
00:49:48.420
whole crew has done such a great job in being relentless, pushing for religious liberty and
00:50:01.280
I mean, they argued in front of the Supreme Court.
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They've shepherded this thing through all the way and did an incredible thing.
00:50:09.840
You know, well, there's been a lot of criticism of conservatism, of originalism, of the conservative
00:50:19.420
I mean, it's hard to argue with this right now.
00:50:22.460
You know, this has been an incredible achievement.
00:50:24.840
And I think you look at it, everybody from all aspects of conservatism has made this stuff
00:50:30.440
You know, you can look, we named a few of the names, President Trump, even people like
00:50:34.180
Mitch McConnell, First Liberty Institute, the Federalist Society.
00:50:37.180
And these are widely varying views in a lot of these groups, but all generally just wanted
00:50:46.840
And that's, I mean, another, as you mentioned, another great ruling.
00:50:50.280
Maybe we'll get one on climate change as well, which would be great.
00:50:54.200
They've got an environmental opinion coming up.
00:50:59.280
There's, so we just got another one is Concepcion, which we'll go through here in a minute.
00:51:03.580
But not, EPA versus West Virginia is the, I don't know, maybe the biggest one I'm looking
00:51:11.420
They might save that till Thursday or Friday or something.
00:51:16.320
I will say they are always up for surprises, aren't they?
00:51:20.900
I thought that would be the last one they announced.
00:51:24.700
They leave these sort of controversial ones to the last day.
00:51:33.280
We do know that we have at least one more coming here as we're speaking, as we're sitting
00:51:41.940
Well, we'll go through, we'll go through the whole, this whole thing in just a minute
00:51:45.520
But this was, we at least have one more coming today.
00:51:54.380
Now, does the coach, by the way, does the coach get his job back?
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I told him I would like, I would hate these people.
00:52:10.400
They screwed him over, I believe, in a big way.
00:52:15.920
Like, his perspective was, number one, he's not like a pastor.
00:52:25.900
He is not the guy who is going, you know, who is like, every time you talk to him, he's got a new scripture he's quoting.
00:52:32.220
He's just like totally a normal guy who just believed he wanted to pray.
00:52:36.900
Like, it was, he's not like, you know, what you would think of when you think of a guy standing up at the Supreme Court.
00:52:43.180
Did they warn him or ask him to do this somewhere else?
00:52:47.560
So, initially he started, if I'm remembering the story right, I think I am.
00:52:52.080
Initially, he started doing it by himself at the 50-yard line.
00:53:05.460
He started, some of the players started gathering.
00:53:07.660
Over time, even the other teams would start coming and gathering at the center of the field.
00:53:12.420
No, it's unacceptable because you've got a whole bunch of people praying.
00:53:22.060
And the school came to him and said, look, we know, we love you and everything, but you can't do it because people, everyone's, you can't bring other people involved because people are worried that you'll have influence over them.
00:53:37.720
So, he told them, look, you guys can't come with me and pray out in the center because it's a big controversial thing.
00:53:42.940
So, then he went out and started doing it by himself again and they still fired him.
00:53:47.960
So, he was only doing it by himself and specifically asked for other people not to join.
00:53:52.340
And, but his opinion seemed to be closer to, look, I don't think they wanted to do this to me.
00:54:01.320
Which, again, shows the ignorance in this country about things that are not in the United States Constitution.
00:54:11.700
And just because people say it over and over and over that there's separation of church and state.
00:54:20.160
So, people get into this little world where, I'm sorry, you can't bring religion into this anywhere on school grounds.
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And the perception has been reality for a long time and hopefully this decision will change that.
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Religious liberty is really doing well right now.
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And I think, you know, I'm hoping for, one of the big things I'm hoping for is that many more of these cases and hopefully a definitive one gets to the Supreme Court as it relates to not just, not just church, but church specifically when it comes to all the COVID restrictions.
00:54:59.400
You know, the fact that they were trying to force churches to close down, you have absolutely.
00:55:08.140
And we've seen some lower courts have issues with them and get some of that stuff overturned.
00:55:13.700
But I would like to see one of these things go up to the Supreme Court level and have it be very clear that the government can make recommendations.
00:55:22.140
They can say, hey, this is what we think you should do.
00:55:31.560
They cannot stop you from opening your business.
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But certainly when it comes to a house of worship, the government absolutely should not be able to do that.
00:55:43.940
And, you know, look, most churches went along with the advice and just decided, look, we think this is the best thing.
00:55:52.580
If that's what they believe the decision is, they can make that decision.
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Like, the state needs to be protected from religion.
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The problem was religion being protected from the state.
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Now, it's about sentencing guidelines, basically.
00:58:03.720
Can you sentence someone to a reduced sentence?
00:58:07.000
We don't really need to get into all the details on the case.
00:58:18.680
Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan, as you'd expect, grouped together,
00:58:25.160
Every once in a while, you'll see Kagan stray, but that's...
00:58:31.240
What two from the conservative side joined the three liberals in this case?
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You'd think John Roberts and Kavanaugh would be the two that I would say.
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Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan, plus Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas.
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This is one I looked at the other day, and I'm going to have to refresh my memory on what
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They're pissed that the ruling hasn't even happened yet.
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Look for that sort of graffiti on all, you know, walls of burned buildings here coming
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Justice Breyer wrote it, and that is it for today.
01:00:04.400
So, that'll give us down to, I think, five remaining for next week.
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EPA also Remain in Mexico Trump border policy is another big one on the docket.
01:00:19.660
Because Biden wants to get rid of it, and so far the lower courts have said you can't.
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So, as of right now, it remains a very controversial one, and one that the left is really looking
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After this session, I think we're really going to have to fight off packing the court.
01:00:37.980
The court packing thing is really going to become an issue because they've lost several
01:00:47.720
So, what they're going to want to do is add a whole bunch of liberals to the court and,
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When they lose the popular vote, or win the popular vote but lose the Electoral College,
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When they can't get their judges through with 60 votes, they say, let's lower it to 50.
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Ask Harry Reid about that one in 2013, which led to what we saw on Friday.
01:01:17.760
When they don't get what they want, they just try to go around it.
01:01:22.780
But you look at this ruling, Roe versus Wade, conservatives won within the rules.
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They just used the electoral process over many years and decades.
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We've been discussing the incredible insanity coming out of the left since the verdict.
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And, you know, we were warned, we've been warned for the last, how long has it been since the verdict was leaked?
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And we've been warned the whole time to expect violence from both sides.
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Why would we, on the right, go out and, you know, overturn cop cars and set buildings on fire?
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That's really, and that's one of the reasons why January 6th really pisses me off.
01:05:01.720
Because now they have this one thing to point to.
01:05:10.540
I mean, like, you know, obviously there have been, over the years, unfortunately, a couple of high-profile abortion protester types that have done really terrible things.
01:05:19.900
And have been immediately condemned by every single person I've ever known on the right.
01:05:27.360
You know, Eric Rudolph and, you know, the Kansas abortion killer.
01:05:35.460
I would not deny that there have been a couple.
01:05:38.000
It's been very, very limited over the course of a 50-year battle.
01:05:42.880
Especially when the stakes are 65 million lives.
01:05:46.560
Like, when you think of how, what a life and death situation this is.
01:05:50.560
I mean, in some ways, you're surprised there hasn't been more terrible behavior.
01:05:54.940
It's really been done, as we mentioned before the break, within the bounds of the system, exactly the way it's supposed to be done.
01:06:03.440
You, you, but before that, long before that, there was a, a, a long-term grooming of conservative legal scholars, activists who fought every day, who did things like the, uh, the, the March for Life, right?
01:06:20.460
Year after year after year, gathered when it seemed completely hopeless.
01:06:28.100
When you'd turn on your favorite conservative talk show and you'd hear Pat Gray and Stubergear telling you, it's completely hopeless.
01:06:35.780
I mean, I didn't really believe it was that dire, but I never thought I would see the day.
01:06:43.840
And there's a lot more to do on this, on this fight.
01:06:46.320
I mean, it doesn't, you know, we really have prevented no abortions at this point.
01:06:51.580
It just gives you the opportunity to argue for these things.
01:06:53.880
And in some of these states now, some of these abortions will not occur.
01:06:58.640
That means there'll be people who will be alive, will have a chance at life that did not previously.
01:07:03.720
And I don't know how, I don't know how you can be fighting on the other side of that battle, Frank.
01:07:10.440
And they make it, they make it an issue of race when we want to prevent abortions in minority areas.
01:07:19.160
You know, 80% of abortion clinics are in predominantly black areas, black and Hispanic.
01:07:28.200
And to me, that's, that says, okay, we want to abort and kill as many minorities as we possibly can.
01:07:44.880
It really is incredible how that, how this has been spun.
01:07:47.680
I mean, and you listen to the coverage of this, which is not every major media organization
01:07:54.280
sent reporters to abortion clinics that found out about the ruling and then had to call
01:08:00.500
quote unquote patients to tell them they could not come in because Roe versus Wade was overturned
01:08:08.700
And they're crying and sobbing about how they want to help these poor women kill their children.
01:08:19.400
And it's like, is there no, no awareness in the press that the other side exists to this story?
01:08:29.460
And, you know, one of the reasons that the black population has stayed in this country between 12 and 14% for a hundred years is because of abortion.
01:08:40.060
It's because they're, they're disproportionately aborted more than whites.
01:08:51.340
And you know, we, we, and you know who doesn't want it to stop?
01:08:54.520
And Margaret Sanger at the beginning of all this.
01:08:56.920
This is why she started Planned Parenthood in the beginning.
01:09:07.160
They worship at the altar of Planned Parenthood and abortion.
01:09:11.840
And there's just simply no way to get around it for the left that you can call us racists for a hundred different things.
01:09:19.380
They'll call us racist for, there's a big case that's going to be coming in the next session on affirmative action.
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And I think there's a good chance that that gets limited in a major way by this court.
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You should not be making decisions by skin color.
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That's something that we used to all agree on and is now apparently wrong.
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But you can call us racist for a hundred different things.
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What we want the minimum wage level to be, what you think, you know, voter ID, all these ridiculous things they call us racist for.
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But the bottom line to all of this is if you implemented every single one of our policies, limiting welfare spending, voter ID, affirmative action, all these things, all to the conservative utopia,
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what the end result of all those policies would be is tens of millions of minorities alive today that are no longer alive and thriving.
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But more than are thriving now would be thriving because of the policies.
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Some of them will solve society's great problems.
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Some of them will be crappy waiters at Chili's that screw up your order.
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Some of them will be the guy that cut you off in traffic.
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But all of them deserve a chance to live their lives.
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You don't get to make this decision in advance for them.
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They might wind up screwing their life up entirely.
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I'm fascinated at the idea that it's better for society that people should just be executed before they've done anything.
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Before they've taken their first breath outside the womb.
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Let's kill them because they might be a drain on society.
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You look at white supremacy groups today and they are not pro-life.
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White supremacy groups support the right to abortion.
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And they will explicitly tell you the reason they do is because they like the fact that black and Hispanic babies keep getting aborted.
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So if you want to be on the side of white supremacy and also not coincidentally the Democrats, because they've been lined up for generations, hop on board to that pro-choice movement.
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It's working out well if that is your philosophy to life.
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But in reality, I don't understand how anyone can support this craziness.
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There's a column in the New York Times today by someone named Pamela Paul.
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As the 4th of July looms with its flags and its barbecues and its full-throated patriotism, I find myself mulling over the idea of American exceptionalism.
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What, if anything, makes this country different from other countries or from the rest of the developed world in terms of morals and our ideals?
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In what ways do our distinct values inform how America treats its own citizens?
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Witness the ruthless evisceration of Roe versus Wade and expand blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So how about the ruthless evisceration of the babies inside the womb?
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Up to and including a full-grown infant coming out of the birth canal and being torn apart and murdered right then and there.
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How, what lack of self-awareness could you have as a human being to literally define mercy as the constitutional right for one person to kill another?
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I can understand you thinking the way of Joe Biden in 2006.
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This is a totally different worldview than that person in 2006.
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Now, by the way, Joe Biden now holds the same worldview that I just discussed from Pamela Paul of the New York Times.
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But it's like this idea that murdering 65 million people is mercy is psychotic.
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It is exactly the eugenic philosophy that led to what we saw in World War II.
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It is what Margaret Sanger believed and has continued to try to carry out against this country through Planned Parenthood and other organizations all of this time.
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And it is fascinating that that has been presented and continues to be presented as this empathetic thing.
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We're supposed to listen to abortion clinic doctors who are unable to kill children for a day and hear them sob and feel, oh, my gosh, these poor people now have to drive an extra hour.
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That's what we're supposed that's supposed to be the empathetic side of the argument.
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And just a reminder of what the left thinks of Margaret Sanger, who was a eugenics person, wanted to rid the country of minorities.
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Her vision was to eliminate black people in America.
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Ellen Chesler is here, who wrote a magnificent biography of Margaret Sanger called Woman of Valor.
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And when I think about what she did all those years ago in Brooklyn, taking on archetypes, taking on attitudes and accusations flowing from all directions.
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And there are a lot of lessons that we can learn from her life.
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And Hitler did learn some of those lessons from Margaret Sanger, as a matter of fact.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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We've got four cases left now that the Supreme Court is going to decide this session.
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One's basically a climate change sort of issue.
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One has to do with Native American sovereignty, you know, because they took the whole Indian
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They took away their way of life, you know, the tomahawk, the bow and knife.
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Instead, they taught their English to our young.
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Not mine, but speaking for the Native Americans.
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And, you know, maybe the worst part of this, though, all the beads they made by hand, you
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In Japan or Taiwan or China, even more nowadays.
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So, I don't know if they're going to rule on that aspect of it.
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I've always found it interesting because you've said something similar to that many times,
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And I've always interested in how the Native American in this situation would define their
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Like, they wouldn't be like, hey, you know what defines us?
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But anyway, that is, of course, very much part of this case in the Supreme Court.
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If that does not find its way into a dissent, I will be very surprised.
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And they'll either do this probably Thursday and Friday or maybe next week.
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This is about whether Congress has the power to authorize suits against non-consenting states
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If that doesn't go the way I want it to, I'm going to be burning buildings down.
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And I think it's working out well for the left.
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I think they're reaping the rewards of this right now.
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The more and more psychotic you get, the more you wind up winning people over to your opposition.
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And I do think that at times conservatives have that same issue.
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Because, you know, persuasion is still the name of the game here.
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You can get your memes, you know, and all your, you know, slam dunk tweets out there.
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And that's great, but persuading people who might agree with you is still the most important thing.
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And I think we saw a very long 50-year battle to achieve those ends here.
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What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
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Still much more to share with you on this abortion ruling
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We will get to that and much more in 60 seconds
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Roe vs. Wade of course just overturned the other day
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You know, I'll believe I'll pack up and move to one of those red states I keep hearing about
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That's been kind of a common refrain over the past few years
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If so, we are happy to have you here in any red state of course
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But there's a whole matter of selling your home and then buying another one
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If you didn't know, it can be a complicated mess
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Which is why it's incredibly important for you to have a good real estate agent
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Years ago, our own Glenn Beck, who's not with us today
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He will be back, I don't know, after his vacation
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But he started a company called Real Estate Agents I Trust
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The whole idea was that they connect you with the best possible real estate agents
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Both in the area you're moving from and the area you're moving to
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Whether you're moving across town or across the country
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The agents they work with will do everything they can to make sure you succeed
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It's a great service and it has changed a lot of people's financial transactions
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And remember, this is the biggest financial transaction you may ever have in your entire life
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program
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And I heard it was going to happen in the spring
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But Jake Tapper, who used to be a pretty reliable journalist
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And I'll bet he has so many international friends
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Boris Johnson promptly dismissed these concerns
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In terms of our ability and our institutions to thrive
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And continue after what happened with the election of 2020
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They're worried that democracy is on life support
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I want to say this to the people of the United States
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Get back to what I've been trying to say to you
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We weren't doing it because the government told us to