The Glenn Beck Program - August 31, 2024


Dennis Quaid： Playing Ronald Reagan Was the Scariest Role of My Life ｜ Ep 225 ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast


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Actor Dennis Quaid joins host Glenn Beck to discuss his new film, Reagan: Tearing Down This Wall, and his own life-changing experience as a young conservative radio host on the early days of the Reagan administration in the early 1980s.

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00:00:00.000 And now, a Blaze Media podcast.
00:00:04.640 All right, Glenn, you know, I've been a fan of yours since CNN.
00:00:08.740 Really?
00:00:09.400 Today, we're joined by actor Dennis Quaid,
00:00:12.320 a man that not only brings Ronald Reagan to life on the silver screen in his new film, Reagan.
00:00:18.560 Tear down this wall.
00:00:21.220 But who also shares a personal journey of restoration.
00:00:24.820 You know, when I found myself in bad situations, it was all my own fault.
00:00:28.820 We talk about everything from cocaine.
00:00:32.500 It's fun.
00:00:33.820 Then it's fun with problems.
00:00:35.800 And then it's just problems.
00:00:38.020 To Christ.
00:00:38.880 And I came to realize what a personal relationship with Jesus, Jesus Christ, is all about.
00:00:47.240 But as we shoot the breeze here at my ranch,
00:00:50.020 an old homestead brought back to life from the dust and echoes of the past,
00:00:54.280 we're not just discussing a film.
00:00:55.880 We're pondering whether the restoration Reagan believed in can still happen today.
00:01:03.340 It was mourning in America, Reagan once told us.
00:01:07.680 A time of renewal, hope, and boundless opportunity.
00:01:12.560 Is it mourning in America now?
00:01:14.100 Or are we just mourning for America?
00:01:17.520 Mourning for a spirit, a people, and a leadership that once defined us,
00:01:22.260 but now seems like a distant memory.
00:01:26.640 The love of country that he had and all of that seems to be fading in popular culture.
00:01:33.560 Communism is on the rise inside our country as well as all around the world.
00:01:38.900 And it seems like we have to fight it all over again.
00:01:44.060 Well, I think that's America. 0.70
00:01:45.860 Are we just playing out a beautiful but ultimately futile melody on a piano,
00:01:51.120 hoping the notes will somehow carry us back to a time that's long gone?
00:01:57.560 And speaking of pianos,
00:01:59.220 Dennis Quaid, always the entertainer,
00:02:01.480 couldn't resist sitting down at a piano we have here
00:02:04.340 and treating us to an impromptu performance.
00:02:09.220 It was a moment that brought a smile,
00:02:11.580 a bit of light in a conversation that at times feels
00:02:14.720 like we're searching for something that might never be found again.
00:02:17.980 The best is yet to come, Reagan once said.
00:02:21.900 But is it?
00:02:23.040 Or are we, as Americans,
00:02:24.780 simply trying to find our way back to something we've lost forever?
00:02:29.180 This is a special episode of the Glenn Beck Podcast,
00:02:32.280 A Day at the Ranch with Dennis Quaid.
00:02:35.440 Ready?
00:02:35.920 Yes, sir.
00:02:36.380 All right, Glenn.
00:02:37.340 You know, I've been a fan of yours since CNN.
00:02:40.600 Really?
00:02:41.320 The war on Christmas has only been getting worse.
00:02:43.420 First it was the mangers,
00:02:44.480 then it was the trees,
00:02:45.520 and then the word itself.
00:02:46.840 Yeah.
00:02:47.920 That is crazy.
00:02:49.180 Yeah.
00:02:49.440 I never think of people like you, actually.
00:02:52.360 I don't know.
00:02:53.040 You don't think of people like you doing normal stuff.
00:02:57.460 Like watching TV?
00:02:58.560 Yeah.
00:02:59.600 Yeah.
00:03:00.140 Or the news?
00:03:00.760 You're supposed to be doing whatever.
00:03:01.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:03.480 I was like,
00:03:04.380 well, you were like the brand new voice on CNN
00:03:06.660 when you came on there.
00:03:08.160 And I'm sure you had a radio show going on before that, right?
00:03:11.180 But it was,
00:03:13.080 yeah, I watched you religiously, actually.
00:03:17.620 And then all of a sudden you disappeared.
00:03:19.940 Yeah.
00:03:20.700 Just like that.
00:03:21.740 Yeah.
00:03:22.880 It was funny.
00:03:24.020 Clint Eastwood,
00:03:24.960 he's on my bucket list,
00:03:27.220 and I don't think I'm ever going to get that one checked off.
00:03:29.740 He came into CNN on the day I was gone,
00:03:32.400 and they had a poster of me,
00:03:34.620 and he was walking with Larry King's people.
00:03:36.740 Yeah.
00:03:37.120 And he just stopped.
00:03:39.000 That guy.
00:03:40.180 I like that guy.
00:03:42.520 Yeah.
00:03:42.820 It was so great.
00:03:43.600 Yeah, nobody ever talked like you.
00:03:45.140 That was kind of about the time.
00:03:49.520 When you left,
00:03:50.300 that really kind of pretty much coincided
00:03:53.520 with this sort of real break.
00:03:56.180 I mean, there had been...
00:03:57.340 Yeah, there had been the team party.
00:03:58.300 Anyway, but like conservatives and liberals
00:04:01.240 really lined up after that.
00:04:03.400 It was kind of like prisoner exchange or something.
00:04:06.780 I know.
00:04:07.160 Yeah.
00:04:07.440 And I really,
00:04:08.100 I mean,
00:04:08.380 I tried to use so much humor in the show,
00:04:10.360 and I really thought people would have a sense of humor.
00:04:12.480 Common sense is what you've done.
00:04:14.940 Yeah.
00:04:15.840 So, watched your movie.
00:04:18.000 Love it.
00:04:18.780 Thank you.
00:04:19.280 Absolutely love it.
00:04:20.400 Yeah.
00:04:20.880 How frightening was it to take on Reagan?
00:04:24.080 It was the scariest role of my life, really.
00:04:30.640 It's not my favorite movie that I've ever done.
00:04:33.660 Before, that was the right stuff.
00:04:35.920 But I judged my movies by the time that I had
00:04:38.680 while I was making them.
00:04:39.780 It's a personal experience for me, you know?
00:04:42.900 So, after 40 years, Reagan is now my favorite.
00:04:45.920 But when they asked me to do it,
00:04:48.440 I didn't say yes, and I didn't say no.
00:04:51.220 And this fear went up my spine.
00:04:53.500 I bet.
00:04:53.880 Because Reagan was my favorite president.
00:04:55.940 I had voted for Jimmy Carter in 76.
00:04:59.180 We all make a mistake.
00:05:00.200 Yes.
00:05:00.500 But, you know, at the time, he was an outsider.
00:05:04.560 It was post-Watergate and all that, you know,
00:05:06.900 and what that was going to bring to Washington,
00:05:10.540 which didn't get brought.
00:05:13.040 Reagan was my favorite president.
00:05:14.400 I voted for him.
00:05:16.000 And I came home, and I had a roommate at the time.
00:05:19.840 It was back in 1980.
00:05:21.100 And he said, who did you vote for?
00:05:22.200 I said, Reagan.
00:05:23.040 And he said, you were kicked out of the hippies.
00:05:26.600 That's really what he said.
00:05:30.520 So, I had to turn in my card and everything.
00:05:32.680 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:32.960 That was, that was.
00:05:35.000 Kicked out of the hippies.
00:05:36.000 So, you know, I really so admired him.
00:05:41.540 And he won the Cold War.
00:05:44.340 And he was my dad's favorite president, too.
00:05:47.060 My dad had been talking about Ronald Reagan for president
00:05:49.660 since back, like, 68, 64.
00:05:52.080 He was fantastic.
00:05:52.700 In fact, my first memory of Reagan,
00:05:54.460 outside of him being the guy who sold Barakzo soap
00:05:57.220 on Death Valley days,
00:05:59.000 was, you know, being in the car with my dad
00:06:02.160 going down to Galveston from Houston,
00:06:04.380 which is where I'm from.
00:06:05.300 And Reagan was giving the speech.
00:06:10.260 The choice?
00:06:11.060 On the radio.
00:06:11.820 Yeah.
00:06:12.260 Or the day of choosing.
00:06:13.800 Yeah, day of, time of choosing.
00:06:15.740 Yeah, time of choosing.
00:06:16.300 And my dad was, like, on the dashboard.
00:06:20.740 He was just, like, go Ronnie and stuff.
00:06:24.020 And that was my first memory of him as a political figure.
00:06:28.320 Where, then, is the road to peace?
00:06:30.500 Well, it's a simple answer after all.
00:06:32.260 You and I have the courage to say to our enemies,
00:06:36.280 there is a price we will not pay.
00:06:38.260 There is a point beyond which they must not advance.
00:06:45.260 Inspiring.
00:06:46.080 Yeah.
00:06:46.740 It really is an incredible speech.
00:06:48.100 Yeah, it is.
00:06:49.320 And timely still today.
00:06:51.060 That was my first awareness of him as a political figure.
00:06:54.640 And so, but, you know, he was, to take the role, like I said, I had, you know, fear went up my spine.
00:07:05.260 Because he's, like, Muhammad Ali, he's one of the, probably one of the most recognized people all over the world, period.
00:07:12.980 It's like Trump.
00:07:14.060 And everybody has such an opinion about him.
00:07:16.320 And I didn't want to do, like, an impersonation of him.
00:07:22.360 He was my, I mean, he's, you know, probably my biggest hero, in a way.
00:07:28.780 What is it about him that?
00:07:30.500 He won the Cold War.
00:07:31.540 We grew up getting under our desk at school because, you know, they were going to drop the bomb.
00:07:37.500 I mean, it was going to happen.
00:07:38.840 I know.
00:07:39.140 And it came so close.
00:07:40.340 The Cuban Missile Crisis, you know, we lived in Houston, and we were in that circle that they had.
00:07:45.560 Yeah, oh, wow.
00:07:45.740 Where, you know, those missiles could reach.
00:07:48.620 And, you know, we were Space City.
00:07:50.800 Of course they were going to hit us.
00:07:53.660 And we got kept home from school for that.
00:07:56.580 You know, and nobody had been able to make any progress with that.
00:08:02.080 Until Reagan.
00:08:03.800 At the time, everybody, you know, the left, everybody, to the left, everyone is a monster.
00:08:10.600 And, you know.
00:08:11.340 Yeah, he was called a warmonger.
00:08:12.920 War monger. 0.72
00:08:13.180 You know, he was going to get us into a war for sure.
00:08:15.600 Yeah.
00:08:15.920 But, you know, all we'd done with the Soviets was appease. 0.90
00:08:19.140 I know.
00:08:19.760 Kennedy, you know, and Khrushchev had, you know, they were communicating.
00:08:23.420 And that was, I thought that was handled well for the time that it was going to happen because it was going to happen.
00:08:29.900 But then, you know, at the time that Reagan entered office, it was very much afraid that it was going to happen again.
00:08:38.560 And that it was predestined to happen in a way.
00:08:42.860 The Soviets, under Carter, really built their military way up.
00:08:49.140 Carter was, you know, I thought he did a great job in the Middle East to bring Egypt and Israel together.
00:08:54.260 And, but, you know, we gave away the B-1 bomber.
00:09:00.120 We just kept conceding stuff to him.
00:09:02.780 And it, you know, the more that we gave away, the more I think they just kind of laughed at us.
00:09:10.560 Yeah.
00:09:10.720 And we're, as Americans, I think Jimmy Carter, the Jimmy Carter administration exemplified the way the American people are in their heart.
00:09:20.780 That we, we're peaceful at our heart.
00:09:25.040 We want to live in harmony with the rest of the world, in allies, friendships.
00:09:31.840 And, but that's not the way the rest of the world is.
00:09:36.300 I know.
00:09:36.480 The rest of the world didn't grow up like we grew up.
00:09:39.160 They grew up like.
00:09:40.580 Communism.
00:09:40.940 In the Middle East, you know, and they are a product, like we're a product of the way we grew up. 1.00
00:09:47.680 Yeah.
00:09:47.820 And we don't have a chance against brutes like that.
00:09:53.500 We do if you're like Reagan.
00:09:55.500 If we have somebody like Reagan.
00:09:56.860 Reagan was, I always wanted, you know those, those old westerns where the cowboy kind of has a twitchy eye.
00:10:05.600 And you're like, I don't know.
00:10:08.360 He might just kill us all right now.
00:10:10.800 Yeah.
00:10:11.160 Or we might be having, you know, a party in an hour.
00:10:14.900 Yeah.
00:10:15.100 Uh, that's what Reagan was. 0.80
00:10:17.780 Yeah.
00:10:18.220 Reagan had that eye. 0.66
00:10:19.380 They did.
00:10:19.920 Where he was fun.
00:10:21.360 He could be your best friend.
00:10:22.860 But when he said something, you knew he meant it.
00:10:28.000 Uh, and you were like, he.
00:10:30.040 At least 80%.
00:10:31.140 Yeah.
00:10:31.680 Yeah.
00:10:31.960 Yeah.
00:10:32.400 You know, it, he was the guy who you, you've really thought.
00:10:36.800 He just might do it.
00:10:39.840 Even the people in our own country.
00:10:41.440 Well, that's what the Soviet thought.
00:10:43.280 Yes.
00:10:43.860 You know.
00:10:45.020 I love.
00:10:45.500 Well, but why do you think that the Iran hostage is released 20 minutes after he took office?
00:10:52.440 Yeah.
00:10:52.620 I, I, I love the way that the movie portrays him and Gorbachev.
00:10:59.680 And, and I know a lot of people that were in the room at the time with all of this stuff.
00:11:03.860 And you, you nailed it.
00:11:05.740 Um, the story is accurate.
00:11:07.360 The way it was told.
00:11:09.140 Well, we've made sure about that.
00:11:10.980 I mean, the only non-historical fact is that my dog Peaches is the family dog in the movie.
00:11:18.180 She didn't have a bulldog. 0.97
00:11:19.140 But that's, that's about where it ends.
00:11:22.180 So, I mean, uh, even down to like his and Nancy's relationship, which is so central to the story.
00:11:28.820 It's a love story as, as well.
00:11:30.720 So let me ask you, cause this is the one thing I thought about the movie.
00:11:33.280 I don't know if people, let's say my son's age, 18 years old, 19 years old, is going to be able to relate to their relationship.
00:11:42.700 Because that is so odd for today's society, for the consuming society.
00:11:51.700 You know what I mean?
00:11:52.300 Yeah.
00:11:52.560 You don't see that kind of early, and that was real.
00:11:55.300 Yeah, it was, it was really real.
00:11:56.760 They were like that, but it seems so unrealistic in today's world.
00:12:03.160 Well, you know, even back in the 60s, it was kind of unreal, uh, unrealistic in a way, you know, because 50% of marriages were still breaking up.
00:12:12.040 And they had, in fact, even, even Reagan was, you know, divorced, he was married to Jane Weiner.
00:12:17.420 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:18.560 And, uh, in fact, I think he was our first divorce president, uh, in fact.
00:12:25.220 But they had a special thing, and I disagree with you about that, because I'm married to the, like, the greatest woman in the world.
00:12:33.240 No, I am too.
00:12:34.400 You know, and I've, I've been, you know, I've been a dog in relationships before, too, but I, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's, it's great to be in one that, uh.
00:12:46.900 Yeah, I agree.
00:12:47.960 That I.
00:12:48.980 But people don't just see that.
00:12:51.160 They don't see that anymore.
00:12:53.760 They might see it in their personal lives or anything, but in culture, that is not the, the.
00:13:02.640 No.
00:13:03.160 The image.
00:13:04.400 No, but.
00:13:05.580 And it should be.
00:13:06.820 Yeah, well, we don't have, uh, the culture has changed so much.
00:13:10.620 Yeah.
00:13:11.420 And, you know, right, it's a consumer culture.
00:13:13.640 Yeah.
00:13:13.840 Where everybody wants everything right now.
00:13:16.920 Yeah.
00:13:17.440 But just, I don't know, you go out into the middle of the country, and I see a lot of really great examples.
00:13:23.820 Yeah.
00:13:24.080 Of relationships that, uh.
00:13:26.260 I, I got this for my wife's, my wife and I, our anniversary.
00:13:31.580 Written by Reagan.
00:13:32.720 It's a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
00:13:35.680 Harmony is the, I should be able to read my own writing.
00:13:40.140 Yeah.
00:13:42.240 Harmony is the married state, right? 0.97
00:13:44.780 Yeah.
00:13:44.960 Uh, marriage state with a very first object to be aimed at is harmony.
00:13:53.920 Harmony in the marriage, uh, harmony in the marriage state is the very first object to be aimed at.
00:14:03.020 Aimed at.
00:14:03.600 Um, uh, happiness by the, oh, gosh, I know I can't, I don't have my glasses.
00:14:11.140 We're both so horrible.
00:14:12.360 We got short arms.
00:14:12.760 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:13.560 Uh, happiness by the domestic, uh, something.
00:14:19.540 Well, anyway.
00:14:20.820 I figured, no, we're into this now, Glenn.
00:14:22.900 We're going to finish.
00:14:23.480 We're in too deep.
00:14:24.140 By the, by the domestic, uh, uh, pressure.
00:14:32.240 Pursuit?
00:14:33.240 Pursuit.
00:14:33.860 Yes.
00:14:35.100 Is the first boon of heaven.
00:14:39.480 Yeah.
00:14:41.280 Isn't it great?
00:14:42.140 Yes.
00:14:42.460 You know, he, he, he wrote her, he wrote her.
00:14:47.820 Every day.
00:14:48.460 Every day.
00:14:48.980 Every day.
00:14:49.420 A love, a love note.
00:14:49.920 He wrote this for her.
00:14:51.200 Yeah.
00:14:51.440 This was their anniversary.
00:14:51.960 Even when he was in the hospital.
00:14:53.080 I know.
00:14:53.520 Assassination.
00:14:53.940 I know.
00:14:54.760 He gave this to her.
00:14:55.840 They were having dinner with Prince Charles and Lady Diana.
00:14:59.180 Oh, really?
00:14:59.660 And, um, their anniversary and he slipped it across the table to her.
00:15:02.780 Oh, wow.
00:15:03.340 It's, but they did write and, so have you read, what is it, Love You, Ronnie?
00:15:10.700 Yeah.
00:15:11.300 That's so great.
00:15:12.200 Yeah.
00:15:12.900 So great.
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00:15:15.960 I mean, you saw the movie.
00:15:17.380 She's just channeling.
00:15:19.460 Yeah.
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00:16:47.000 So when you came over and you just hit the Steinway before we started, you were taught by Jerry Lee Lewis.
00:16:55.440 Amazing.
00:16:58.300 When you play a character like this, and you're not a character, but a real person, and you're
00:17:05.940 really trying to nail them, you have to have a relationship with them.
00:17:12.700 Even if they're dead, you have a relationship with them.
00:17:15.760 Well, it gets down to the point.
00:17:17.140 For me, what makes acting so fascinating is the psychology of it.
00:17:21.860 What makes people tick and who are they?
00:17:24.840 And that's what we were starting to talk about when I was offered Reagan.
00:17:30.220 I didn't turn it down, but I didn't say yes because I did want to do an impersonation.
00:17:35.240 And then I didn't want to do a hero worship thing.
00:17:39.420 It's about playing that person from their point of view.
00:17:44.960 And to do that is to find out what makes them tick.
00:17:48.180 And I feel like I have a responsibility to do that.
00:17:51.800 And there was a part of Reagan, and my research of it, people who knew him, that there was kind
00:18:00.700 of the great communicator.
00:18:01.960 There was this unreachable, very private place in him that I think even Nancy felt to a certain
00:18:10.340 extent, although she probably knew him the best.
00:18:13.640 And I think that's where Reagan resided.
00:18:16.380 I think it was his relationship with God.
00:18:22.520 I think it was his most private thoughts and probably a shield from the people around him
00:18:33.120 because he had so many people always around him, at least in his political career.
00:18:39.480 But I think this also went back to his childhood, where he could have that private place.
00:18:49.260 And it's almost Japanese in that, you know, that we're talking about having the privacy in
00:18:58.020 the midst of so much going on.
00:19:02.120 You know, I think part of that is what made him a great communicator.
00:19:05.720 But getting to that is what I needed to get to because I knew it was going to be really
00:19:12.280 judged and stuff.
00:19:13.940 And so I read several biographies.
00:19:18.660 But I went to the Reagan ranch.
00:19:20.880 I got invited up there.
00:19:22.280 That's and that is was the Western White House.
00:19:26.320 That's where they lived.
00:19:28.240 He bought that back after being governor of California.
00:19:33.100 Do you have any idea?
00:19:34.740 When I saw that scene, I thought, God, heavens, at that at that time, how much did they pay
00:19:41.520 for that?
00:19:42.140 Yeah.
00:19:42.620 Oh, I'm sure.
00:19:44.360 It was at the top of the hill.
00:19:45.920 There's not a stream going through.
00:19:48.760 But so I went there.
00:19:52.220 A group of friends bought it after his passing and they kept it exactly as it was.
00:19:58.420 I mean, their clothes are in the closet.
00:20:00.520 You it's like you feel that they're going to come back.
00:20:03.440 Any moment.
00:20:04.880 But I went through the first you go up five miles of the worst road in California to get
00:20:09.360 to this place.
00:20:10.100 There's a lot of bad roads in California.
00:20:11.620 Yeah, this was bad.
00:20:13.380 And went through the gate and come out and you see the place in the house, in the in the
00:20:19.880 field, in the fences, in the pond.
00:20:22.640 And I got Reagan right there.
00:20:26.260 You can feel him.
00:20:27.220 I realized that he was a humble man.
00:20:31.320 He was not a rich man.
00:20:34.100 And, you know, go into the house.
00:20:38.440 They had a king size bed, but it was two single beds that were zip tied together.
00:20:44.160 Oh, my God.
00:20:44.980 All the appliances are GE.
00:20:47.220 He used to be the spokesman for GE.
00:20:48.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:49.280 Right.
00:20:50.100 And it's the house itself is maybe eleven hundred square feet.
00:20:56.200 You know, eleven hundred square feet.
00:20:58.760 Yeah.
00:20:58.940 And you can feel that he really did do all the work around that place.
00:21:04.860 And I think that's like that's when I that's when I said yes to the role was after that trip after
00:21:12.940 that.
00:21:13.620 I think that's what I liked about Reagan.
00:21:15.500 He he was just real.
00:21:18.320 He he worked.
00:21:20.600 He could fit in on anything, but he seemed more at home at the ranch.
00:21:25.920 And, you know, I just you see these pictures of him and he's I don't know, he's just he's
00:21:32.340 almost the Marlboro man without the cigarettes.
00:21:34.820 He really was.
00:21:35.460 You know, he was like John Wayne.
00:21:37.260 Yeah.
00:21:37.520 Yeah.
00:21:37.660 Yeah.
00:21:37.920 Only, you know, in his movie career.
00:21:39.940 Right.
00:21:40.200 That role was taken.
00:21:41.500 Right.
00:21:42.200 By John Wayne.
00:21:43.320 But I think he maybe studied John Wayne's walk a little bit because they walked a little
00:21:49.920 bit like the same.
00:21:50.880 You know, they were all taught how to walk and talk and everything when he got when they
00:21:54.420 got to Hollywood.
00:21:55.400 Yeah.
00:21:55.680 In the mid 30s.
00:21:57.260 And that was another interesting thing about Reagan was that I.
00:22:03.340 I look for things the way we all think of ourselves.
00:22:08.820 He had to be that way, too.
00:22:10.340 You know, humans, we all have varying levels.
00:22:13.120 We all have levels of self-esteem during certain periods of our life and things that we go
00:22:17.560 through that, you know, other people might think, oh, well, he's successful, he's powerful,
00:22:22.120 he's this or that.
00:22:22.960 But inside your own person, it all that matters is the way you feel, you know.
00:22:28.880 And I never thought I think I don't think Reagan ever got to the point of where he wanted
00:22:36.580 to go as an actor.
00:22:39.260 Oh, yeah.
00:22:39.880 You know, he was relegated to B-movies, you know, Jack Warner.
00:22:46.120 And like I said, you know, John Wayne, that role was already taken.
00:22:49.700 Right.
00:22:50.260 And then, you know, he was married to Jane Wyman.
00:22:56.000 Boy, that's, that was ugly.
00:22:58.140 Who was just coming up.
00:22:59.760 Yeah.
00:23:00.620 As his career was going down.
00:23:03.000 Going down.
00:23:03.740 And I mean, she won an Academy Award, you know, like that.
00:23:09.380 And I myself was in kind of in a similar situation like that with, with Meg, you know, my career
00:23:15.760 was like, that would be methods and hers kind of went like, like, like that, you know, and
00:23:21.960 you know, you can be, you know, generous with yourself or whatever, or say that doesn't hit
00:23:28.020 you somewhere in, inside you, but it does, you're playing with, with that, you know,
00:23:33.220 and where you have this feeling like you were disappearing or whatever.
00:23:37.680 And so that's something I can understand about, you know, relate with him about.
00:23:42.700 And that's his last job.
00:23:45.700 So he was doing like Vegas shows in like cheesy comic Vegas shows, you know, to just a put food
00:23:55.680 on the table.
00:23:56.480 It's a weird game.
00:23:58.080 Fame, I think is, fame and fortune is a battery acid to the soul.
00:24:02.620 Yeah.
00:24:03.260 You know, cause it plays weird games with you.
00:24:05.560 And if you don't, if you don't know who you are.
00:24:09.060 It takes time sometimes to, to know who you are.
00:24:12.040 It does.
00:24:12.560 You know, it does.
00:24:13.600 But I mean, if you, and if you, but if you don't in your business, even in my business,
00:24:19.640 you'll lose your way because you'll start, you'll feel, well, am I slipping a little
00:24:24.320 bit?
00:24:24.600 Am I not?
00:24:25.160 And it's, it just messes with your head.
00:24:27.860 And then you have to decide, is it worth, are you going to do that?
00:24:32.080 Are you going to change?
00:24:33.240 Are you going to do that for that?
00:24:34.480 Yeah.
00:24:35.040 Or you, or you know who you are.
00:24:36.540 Yeah.
00:24:37.200 And if you're, and it doesn't matter.
00:24:38.180 Like if you're a kid from Houston, you know, working class, you know, parents, there's not 0.99
00:24:43.100 a whole lot of, you know, you really get raised to know what to do in those situations.
00:24:48.540 You have to kind of learn it yourself.
00:24:50.020 Yeah.
00:24:50.200 I'm lucky enough to have been in those situations that I was in, you know, and also lucky enough
00:24:57.820 to have gotten through a lot of those things.
00:25:00.580 But it was, you know, it was also when God closes the door and he opens another one.
00:25:07.880 And it's, I think with Reagan, it was a really, a lot of his life was based on finding God's
00:25:15.280 purpose for his life.
00:25:16.680 I mean, truly.
00:25:17.280 And, you know, he became, when you're, when you're, when acting starts to kind of like
00:25:26.440 fade, a lot of actors, you know, Ed Asner being one of them and several others, you become
00:25:31.740 president of the Screen Actors Guild.
00:25:33.700 All right.
00:25:34.720 And that's, was his entry into politics there.
00:25:39.180 And he was finding communists in the, in that role as well, because the communists, that
00:25:46.860 was back during McCarthy era, they were trying to take over the unions.
00:25:51.480 Right.
00:25:51.740 You cover this a bit in the, in the movie.
00:25:53.720 And I've always heard that he was really torn on that.
00:25:58.360 He didn't like the going in and turning people, having to give names, but he didn't have a problem
00:26:04.380 if they were communists, if they were a problem.
00:26:06.860 Yeah.
00:26:07.620 And well, his whole idea too, about, about communism, uh, whereas, you know, we're trying
00:26:16.380 to root it out of our system.
00:26:18.060 And when he went to testify that he, he testified with the thing, the saying that, you know, you
00:26:26.280 ought to just allow communism in here because our system can handle it.
00:26:32.140 That's what the American, American system is all about.
00:26:35.860 Yes.
00:26:36.120 You know, the freedom to, to, uh, form a, uh, political party.
00:26:41.460 Isn't it weird that, I mean, when you, when you started, you said, I said, why was he here?
00:26:48.020 Cause he won the cold war and he did, but isn't it weird that we're kind of back to where we
00:26:55.000 were except the love of country that he had and all of that seems to be fading in popular
00:27:01.960 culture.
00:27:03.420 Communism is on the rise inside, uh, our country as well as all around the world.
00:27:10.300 Uh, and it seems like we have to fight it all over again.
00:27:15.760 It's, it's, well, I think that's America.
00:27:18.220 And I think it's happened time and time again.
00:27:21.900 In fact, you know, right off the bat, it was, uh, after we formed as a country, you know,
00:27:26.780 there was a whiskey rebellion that, uh, Washington had to go put down.
00:27:30.700 Then we had the war of 1812 and then we had, you know, westward expansion and what was going
00:27:35.440 to be a, a slave state or a free state.
00:27:38.120 The civil war solved that one.
00:27:39.840 Then we went into another thing, you know, which are you an optimist?
00:27:43.460 You feel like, I believe in the American people.
00:27:45.940 Oh, I do.
00:27:47.860 And, uh, you know, it's sometimes a big, great experiment that sometimes doesn't, you know,
00:27:57.180 goes flat.
00:27:58.140 I like Churchill when he said, uh, trust the American people, you know, uh, they'll get
00:28:04.680 it wrong, but eventually they'll figure it out and get it right.
00:28:08.680 Get it right.
00:28:09.160 Well, the last time that, you know, the most similar times to today are, I would say the
00:28:16.040 sixties and seventies, you know, that culminated, uh, you know, the end of that was Ronald Reagan
00:28:23.760 getting elected to office.
00:28:27.560 That was a big experiment.
00:28:29.600 It was tumultuous.
00:28:31.600 Would Reagan work today? 0.95
00:28:33.520 Yeah.
00:28:33.880 I think Reagan would work today. 1.00
00:28:35.140 Yeah.
00:28:35.880 Yeah.
00:28:37.160 Yeah.
00:28:37.680 He definitely would work today.
00:28:38.820 And I think that's what people are yearning for really is a return to, uh, really kind
00:28:43.720 of common sense, uh, and, and decency.
00:28:47.700 I love the fact that I've been watching his speeches, uh, for a while now.
00:28:51.880 And I just love the fact that he would always walk out and he'd be like Republican and Democrat
00:28:56.400 walk into a bar.
00:28:57.400 And he, he's not, he's not tearing people down.
00:29:01.220 He's just telling us.
00:29:02.300 He opened with a joke joke.
00:29:03.740 He always opened.
00:29:05.160 I love that.
00:29:06.360 You know, but we also back at the, this time we had, we had liberal Republicans.
00:29:11.860 We had conservative Democrats.
00:29:14.260 Yeah.
00:29:14.400 And, uh, and, uh, I pine for the Democrat of Joe Lieberman.
00:29:18.300 Yeah.
00:29:19.800 Yeah.
00:29:20.180 That was, I love Joe.
00:29:21.140 That was like the last of the closest we came is probably Joe Manchin, uh, recently.
00:29:25.340 Yeah.
00:29:25.920 And there's a lot we came to that.
00:29:27.700 Right.
00:29:27.960 And there's a, I think there's a great distance between them, but it is close.
00:29:31.640 It's at least recognizable.
00:29:33.560 I think the great hope for, uh, for, you know, that would be RFK, to tell you the truth, as 0.54
00:29:38.480 far as being able to reach cross party and, or really not even be about party, you know,
00:29:45.160 be about America and where we are and where we're going.
00:29:49.900 Yeah.
00:29:50.140 I don't, I don't agree with probably most of his ideas, but I, I, you know, we could have,
00:29:57.080 we can have a conversation.
00:29:59.220 Yeah.
00:29:59.940 And I just had a conversation.
00:30:01.480 He called when I was on CNN, he said that I should be tried for treason and executed.
00:30:08.080 And, uh, yeah.
00:30:09.420 Well, and like I said, don't agree with most of his ideas, but I don't know the full story
00:30:16.620 on that one.
00:30:17.160 Yeah.
00:30:17.560 Uh, but he, but we had a great conversation, you know, had a great conversation.
00:30:23.020 Yeah.
00:30:23.520 Um, and he, and he said, yeah, I've, I've, I've revised some of my viewpoints on some of
00:30:28.820 these, some of these things.
00:30:31.800 It's enough of a struggle just to live our lives and try to keep tyranny at bay day after
00:30:36.380 day without also having to deal with pain on a regular basis.
00:30:40.540 If you're in constant pain, um, or just occasional, really bad pain, um, you can be count, you can
00:30:48.100 count yourself out.
00:30:48.980 We need absolutely everybody in this fight.
00:30:51.940 You're here for a reason.
00:30:53.580 Now, the biggest cause of our pain is inflammation in our joints.
00:30:57.620 I know because I used to have it in my hands really badly.
00:31:01.300 I couldn't button my own shirt.
00:31:02.620 Sometimes, uh, I'd have to get my, my wife would get up in the morning and button my shirts. 1.00
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00:31:50.200 Um, can I go into the, the, the downfall in your life for a while?
00:32:00.340 Yeah, sure.
00:32:00.660 Cause I want to talk about what you're doing now with music and everything else.
00:32:04.920 Um, and, um, I don't know how important is a real downfall to really finding yourself and
00:32:16.760 God and having that deep connection.
00:32:20.900 Um, I don't think one should go looking for it, right?
00:32:25.920 You know, like we all wanted to be James Dean back then, you know, to have that answer and
00:32:31.360 stuff, but I don't think, but I think it, uh, steals, uh, yourself as a person.
00:32:36.740 And I think that's where you, you really find about what you're made of or, and who you are. 0.81
00:32:44.260 Uh, uh, there are maybe there are some people that are lucky in life to, to know who they
00:32:51.640 are, uh, or whatever.
00:32:52.920 But, uh, you know, I went through, uh, few periods in my life, you know, that were, that's
00:33:01.000 just a deepening.
00:33:01.960 Yeah.
00:33:02.440 You know, I sometimes feel it's like God's pruning and, uh, you know, when I found myself
00:33:10.300 in bad situations, it was, it was all my own fault.
00:33:13.840 So, you know, I was all that stuff my mother said, you know, I don't work out for it, but
00:33:19.780 I found myself, you know, so you get to a point of surrender, you know, back in the
00:33:26.580 seventies and eighties, I was, you know, I got into cocaine, you know, back then.
00:33:32.080 Was that Jerry Lee Lewis?
00:33:33.760 Uh, that culminated in Jerry Lee Lewis.
00:33:36.400 I mean, cocaine, when it came along in the seventies, I remember a cover story of cocaine,
00:33:41.960 you know, that was like, they just discovered it or something.
00:33:45.220 And they were saying it was non-addictive and, and all that, you know, that all worked
00:33:49.040 until John Belushi.
00:33:50.520 Yeah.
00:33:50.720 But there are three, there are three, uh, phases of that, just like with any addiction,
00:33:56.960 really, where it's fun, then it's fun with problems.
00:34:00.300 And then it's, it's just problems, you know, and the rest of your life just doesn't work.
00:34:05.940 And, uh, you know, I was, you know, I think I got to that point, I guess I, yeah, I know
00:34:12.980 I got to that point, but I went into rehab like 1990 and I was, I was lucky enough to get
00:34:18.960 it the first time and get that out of my life.
00:34:21.800 Good for you.
00:34:22.340 You know, and, uh, that really began kind of a, a second, uh, because the program that
00:34:30.880 you go through, uh, with addiction is a spiritual program.
00:34:34.040 That's what it, they say it's a spiritual problem.
00:34:36.200 And indeed it is because you're, you're using whatever you're using or, you know, whatever
00:34:41.820 your addiction is because to fill that hole inside you, which works for quite a while.
00:34:48.840 Yeah.
00:34:49.260 And then until it does, you know, and that, uh, you know, that needs to be like an eternal
00:34:55.980 thing in order to be a real thing.
00:34:59.000 Right.
00:34:59.980 And that's what I, I've read the Bible now, like five times through different parts of
00:35:07.120 my life.
00:35:07.760 And I got, I got, uh, uh, disillusioned with what I call churchy entity.
00:35:14.320 I grew up in the Baptist church and I got disillusioned with the churchy entity back in 1.00
00:35:18.740 the seventies.
00:35:20.140 And I read Herman Hesse's Siddhartha, which opened Buddhism and to me.
00:35:26.780 And, you know, when I went around the world, I asked, I, I read the Quran, I read the Dhammapada,
00:35:34.740 I read the Bhagavad Gita.
00:35:36.560 And, um, then I came back, I read the Bible again.
00:35:41.940 And when I got out of rehab, I did that.
00:35:46.960 And, um, I was really struck by the red words of Jesus, which that was what really hit me
00:35:56.180 more than any of the, the other, the other books.
00:35:59.220 And I came to realize what a personal relationship with Jesus, Jesus Christ is all about or started
00:36:09.420 to know what that was all about, because it is a relationship that, that grows and that
00:36:15.080 ebbs, you know, according to the attention that's paid to it, just like any other relationship.
00:36:20.520 Yeah.
00:36:21.520 And, uh, but is always there and how real that is to me, it's about a personal relationship.
00:36:28.520 Yeah.
00:36:29.520 And that is, that is the thing that really runs through all religions, I think is, is the
00:36:35.560 search for that.
00:36:36.560 Right.
00:36:37.560 I'm, I'm an alcoholic.
00:36:40.020 I don't know if you know that, but I'm an alcoholic and, and our journey is very similar.
00:36:44.280 I think most people with addictions would say, but, um, and I didn't know what a personal
00:36:50.020 relationship was like.
00:36:51.620 And there are times, and it would always be this way if I were, you know, um, always in
00:36:59.820 the right place, but there are times he is my absolute best friend.
00:37:03.760 Yeah.
00:37:04.660 And, and when you're in that space and you could, when you're in that space, anything
00:37:11.020 can happen to you and you'll be like, it doesn't matter.
00:37:13.740 Right.
00:37:14.140 It doesn't matter.
00:37:14.820 Right.
00:37:15.180 I'm cool.
00:37:16.140 I just got it.
00:37:17.240 A lot of people who, you know, who are not believers or, or whatever, uh, it's hard to
00:37:23.260 understand that.
00:37:24.000 Yeah.
00:37:24.300 It's always been hard for me to understand that too, but you know, because that's a crutch
00:37:30.660 or it's like, it's some fairy tale about heaven or this or that, but Jesus, the way I, and
00:37:38.620 the way I read it and feel it and experience it, Jesus came in the red words of Jesus.
00:37:44.280 He came here to teach us about heaven afterwards, but more importantly, how to have heaven on
00:37:51.540 earth.
00:37:51.920 Correct.
00:37:52.780 That was the main message.
00:37:54.080 In fact, yeah.
00:37:55.100 Was about how to experience heaven on earth.
00:37:58.040 Love God, love yourself, love your neighbor.
00:38:00.120 The kingdom of heaven is spread out upon the earth and man cannot see it because it's about
00:38:06.400 looking inward and it's about just asking.
00:38:09.760 Yeah.
00:38:10.000 And you, you know, it's also incredibly simple.
00:38:13.480 It's exactly what it said, you know, but that's what I've come to know and cultivate.
00:38:22.100 You know, everybody gets all wrapped up in sin and stuff like that.
00:38:26.000 And Jesus took away our sins.
00:38:29.780 I think what Jesus was actually saying to us is that we ourselves, just like heaven exists
00:38:35.920 here on earth and here's how to get to it.
00:38:38.420 But we live as we go along out of our kid phase and we live in hell inside of ourselves.
00:38:46.880 We either have guilts or the things that we should have or think we should have that really
00:38:52.460 kind of tear us up inside.
00:38:53.780 And it was, you know, Jesus came along and it's about giving up on that.
00:39:04.280 It's, you know, as much as being forgiven of, of sin, it's more about just throwing it away
00:39:13.940 inside yourself.
00:39:16.620 I think that's the secret of heaven is being able to accept, okay, I did that, but it doesn't,
00:39:24.140 it's not, it's in my past and it doesn't matter.
00:39:26.680 And I know who I am.
00:39:28.380 And that doesn't mean necessarily it's going to be poof, you know, tomorrow, but you can
00:39:32.280 start to cultivate a voice inside your head.
00:39:36.820 Yes.
00:39:37.080 That, that will get you there.
00:39:41.820 I mean, I, I, myself, I, I experienced actually in the last eight years is, you know, what I,
00:39:51.240 I would say the equivalent of a, of a, of a kind of a nervous breakdown, to tell you the
00:39:55.660 truth, because I, it was, I was turning 60, which freaked me out, but there were a lot of
00:40:00.980 things going on in my life that I wasn't being authentic to myself.
00:40:04.580 You know, I, uh, I think I was showing one thing to the world, but you know, I was inside
00:40:11.500 and wasn't a terrible person or anything, but it was like, uh, just things in me that
00:40:18.040 needed real life.
00:40:19.520 Yeah.
00:40:20.020 It needed realignment.
00:40:21.140 And I drew upon that personal relationship to, to, to get there.
00:40:29.860 And it's a voice that in one's head, you know, the voice that tells you, you're not good
00:40:36.960 enough, you know, you're not smart enough.
00:40:39.280 People don't like you, you know, the Saturday night life's good.
00:40:42.200 Well, that's the, you know, we all have that voice inside our head and sometimes that voice
00:40:47.420 could take over and it keeps you from, yes, it keeps you from being who you are.
00:40:54.160 And, um, and funny enough, it, you know, along with Jesus was Yoko Ono, who really kind of
00:41:07.220 like gave me a little, uh, uh, you get your, you get your hippie card to get out of it.
00:41:14.400 She said after John, she just practiced, she went six months, she was a wreck and she just
00:41:20.540 started like smiling at herself in the mirror or trying to, and she didn't believe it for
00:41:25.400 six months, but it had actually turned into genuine.
00:41:28.800 And it's about really looking into yourself and really seeing yourself and nurturing yourself
00:41:34.940 and, um, and wanting to, I mean, I know I looked at myself in a mirror for a long time
00:41:41.080 and saying, you're worthless, you're, you're, you know, you're weak. 0.77
00:41:44.960 How can this happen to you?
00:41:46.800 Um, and it, my dad said, start saying things that you want to believe about yourself and
00:41:55.380 look yourself in the eye.
00:41:56.840 Yeah.
00:41:57.080 Boy, there's a long time.
00:41:58.220 You look yourself.
00:41:58.820 Well, I heard it from Yoko Ono.
00:41:59.800 Yeah.
00:42:01.020 I didn't even like Yoko Ono before that, to tell you the truth.
00:42:04.780 You know, the Beatles thing going way back there.
00:42:07.220 But, you know, they realized, you know, that, you know, happiness is a choice or that way.
00:42:14.400 I hate to say the word happiness because it's such a blanket thing, but it's, uh, what can
00:42:19.100 you say?
00:42:19.520 It's a feeling of wholeness inside.
00:42:22.040 It's peace.
00:42:22.880 Yeah.
00:42:24.000 A feeling of authenticity.
00:42:25.240 And once you kind of like, you know, they say confess your sins or this or that, what it
00:42:32.240 is, it's a throwing off of it and then you're free.
00:42:37.520 Yeah.
00:42:38.360 You're free of all that.
00:42:41.380 And so that was, you know, that was a deepening.
00:42:45.820 And, uh, I feel that, you know, like I said, God's pruning or, you know, I'm still enjoying
00:42:53.160 the lessons.
00:42:53.560 I thought, you know, by the time I got to be 60 or by the time I got to be 70, I would
00:42:58.000 have, you know, figure, figured it all out, been through all those like phases of my life.
00:43:03.100 But then again, I didn't realize that I'd never knew what it was like to be 16.
00:43:07.260 I never knew what it was like to be 70.
00:43:09.160 Why would you have things figured out?
00:43:10.980 Um, I'm listening, I'm listening to your, um, your album and it's amazing to hear.
00:43:20.360 I think there's a huge difference between, you see the Johnny Cash movie.
00:43:25.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:43:25.680 So, so remember the time when he walks into, uh, Sam Phillips, uh, studio and he gets the
00:43:32.240 audition and he's playing and he's like, I don't believe you.
00:43:34.780 I don't believe you.
00:43:35.540 So you, you have the same kind of, um, feeling, I think that, uh, Johnny Cash had where, um,
00:43:46.600 you can tell you earned that, you know, you can tell, you can tell you mean that.
00:43:55.740 Yeah.
00:43:56.400 You're talking about my gospel record.
00:43:58.080 Yes.
00:43:58.360 Yeah.
00:43:58.500 Yeah.
00:43:58.700 Yeah.
00:43:58.900 Yeah.
00:43:59.100 Because that was, that was, it was very personal.
00:44:01.720 Yeah.
00:44:02.000 The please don't give up on me is, is really, in fact, uh, well, the, uh, half the musicians
00:44:09.840 that are on that record were Johnny Cash's last studio band.
00:44:14.460 In fact.
00:44:14.840 Yeah.
00:44:15.000 Wow.
00:44:15.500 In fact.
00:44:15.820 And, uh, but, um, um, yeah, it's, it was very personal.
00:44:21.380 I know, I don't know what you're talking about is they, uh, you can feel that it, I, I'd been
00:44:26.920 through what I was singing about.
00:44:29.740 Um, turned out it was very obvious by my spiritual journey through life.
00:44:34.000 Yeah.
00:44:34.500 That's what it was.
00:44:35.680 So what's next on that?
00:44:37.600 On that, uh, what, with music?
00:44:40.460 Yeah.
00:44:41.040 Um, I'm kind of working on a kid's record right now.
00:44:44.920 Really?
00:44:45.620 Yeah.
00:44:46.460 Yeah.
00:44:46.940 There aren't enough of them anymore.
00:44:48.500 You know, I think.
00:44:50.100 Like what's a kid's record?
00:44:51.360 Well, like, you know, songs like, uh, does your chewing gum lose its flavor with a bedpost
00:44:57.300 overnight or remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and back, that was a kid
00:45:02.020 song.
00:45:02.340 Come on.
00:45:03.080 You know, and, uh, uh, you get the song called the jungle, which is, I wrote when I was 21
00:45:09.480 actually put on there and, you know, it's a little bit more secular, but, uh, kid songs.
00:45:16.120 Yeah.
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00:46:35.180 Let's just talk about where are we as a world right now?
00:46:46.840 I don't know.
00:46:47.240 You tell me.
00:46:48.600 Yeah, really.
00:46:49.520 Nobody knows, right?
00:46:50.460 I know.
00:46:50.780 It's weird because we've been through all of this before over and over again.
00:46:56.840 I mean, like some of it is almost exactly what we've been through before, but for some
00:47:02.560 reason we don't look to history to figure out, okay, well, don't do that.
00:47:06.280 Yeah, it seems like before we went through it before, there were actually leaders to the
00:47:12.440 leaders on our allies' side and on their side, or even in the domestic situation, you
00:47:21.300 know, you had leaders within that.
00:47:24.460 We had Mark Luther King.
00:47:25.900 We had Malcolm X.
00:47:26.920 You had SDS leaders, Abbie Hoffman, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:30.380 People actually kind of like spoke up for everybody in a sense, you know, and when it comes to
00:47:41.260 like Islamic terrorism, who speaks for that? 1.00
00:47:46.040 I don't know.
00:47:47.800 Yeah.
00:47:48.360 You know, even Black Lives Matter was like, who are the leaders of that that were like
00:47:54.040 up front speaking for that?
00:47:55.640 Right.
00:47:55.740 It just seemed like a movement, you know.
00:47:59.140 Even all this political correctness and just where, you know, in that sense, there's some
00:48:14.300 way to have a conversation about it instead of just this kind of, which no wonder people
00:48:21.920 are saying, you know, that there's a dark government, you know, out there, but with faceless people 0.96
00:48:31.160 that are controlling everything.
00:48:33.500 And you get the feeling of that, I don't know, but I also do feel that it's, like I said, it's
00:48:43.180 a cycle that all of us are working out as individuals and as the American people.
00:48:52.840 And I think the world feels right now, like it's been turned upside down, but I'm actually
00:49:00.840 starting to see signs of it turning right by side up.
00:49:04.620 Yeah.
00:49:05.180 Common sense seems to be, we lost it entirely for a while.
00:49:08.860 And it seems to be, I think people are tired of supposedly having to hate their neighbor
00:49:16.860 and people who vote.
00:49:17.860 I don't, I don't care how you vote.
00:49:19.640 I really don't.
00:49:21.120 Can we agree on some certain principles?
00:49:23.960 You know, we don't.
00:49:24.740 Right.
00:49:25.320 Exactly.
00:49:25.920 I'm of the same.
00:49:27.300 Yeah.
00:49:27.500 At least can we make like individual decisions on our own instead of just taking, you know,
00:49:36.640 some mandate that's been told that we have to, it's mandatory that we have to think this
00:49:43.280 way, say these things.
00:49:45.100 And I'm talking about on both sides of the aisle, really.
00:49:48.080 I know.
00:49:48.320 You know, you feel like you can't cross that line or you're going to be, you know, a traitor.
00:49:52.560 Right.
00:49:52.780 And what happened to the individual, the rugged individual?
00:49:56.780 That was the American ideal, that you would, look, buddy, I don't, I don't agree with
00:50:02.980 you on everything, but good luck.
00:50:05.120 Right.
00:50:05.280 Good luck.
00:50:05.740 And I mean that sincerely.
00:50:07.440 And hey, let's go have a beer or whatever.
00:50:09.740 Right.
00:50:09.980 Well, Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did have that.
00:50:13.360 That was one of the things.
00:50:14.960 They also had certain principles in common.
00:50:19.420 That was the main thing about Reagan is that he had principles in his life and he governed
00:50:26.460 by those principles.
00:50:27.980 And if you have principles, then it doesn't matter.
00:50:32.300 Political party goes out the window.
00:50:34.040 Correct.
00:50:34.460 Because if you have those principles, you're going to make an unpopular decision with whoever
00:50:40.040 voted you in because it's the best thing to do for the whole.
00:50:44.500 And Reagan definitely had that going on. 0.98
00:50:49.780 That's how he won the Cold War.
00:50:51.920 It gives you patience, too, with other people and for allowing something to unfold.
00:50:59.280 So how do we get back there?
00:51:00.360 I guess one little step at a time.
00:51:03.480 I think it starts at home, in our relationships with our friends, local community.
00:51:10.760 You know, it really got to the point where people, if you know, you find out if they're
00:51:16.100 Democrats or you find out they're Republicans, you would just, there's this just label that
00:51:22.100 goes up on them and, you know, they're out the door on both sides, too.
00:51:29.160 You know, we got to break that down.
00:51:31.480 We pass each other on the street every day.
00:51:33.880 We're in each other's shops.
00:51:36.420 You know, we go to school with people on the other side.
00:51:42.240 And, you know, then we find out they're either Democrat or Republican or this or that.
00:51:47.720 And all of a sudden, you know, they're horrible people.
00:51:51.220 What's changed?
00:51:52.220 You know, only us.
00:51:53.860 Yes.
00:51:54.360 It's we have to look inside ourselves.
00:51:56.400 Yeah.
00:51:57.440 Really.
00:51:58.560 In order to find out.
00:52:00.000 Are the churches doing their part?
00:52:02.500 I feel actually that the churches are people who go to church or religiously minded.
00:52:11.440 It was going down for so long ever since, I guess, you know, the end of World War II.
00:52:15.940 But I think it's coming back.
00:52:19.540 I think COVID, as horrible as COVID was, I think it was also, in a way, that's what a
00:52:29.580 spiritual revolution looks like or a revival is what it looks like.
00:52:36.740 Because it forced people to get out of their routines that they were obsessed about and
00:52:42.560 the way we lived, brought them home.
00:52:45.240 The kids were home.
00:52:46.840 We were all together.
00:52:48.240 We had to, like, get through this together.
00:52:51.440 And there was a lot of death going on.
00:52:55.220 It made you think about what's important.
00:52:57.780 Things are real.
00:52:57.980 What is important.
00:52:59.600 Yeah.
00:53:00.260 You know.
00:53:01.700 And a lot of people go running to God when things are bad.
00:53:06.860 Yeah.
00:53:07.400 That's okay.
00:53:08.020 That's fine, too.
00:53:08.940 Right.
00:53:09.060 Right.
00:53:09.540 But it forced you to look inwardly.
00:53:16.100 You know.
00:53:16.620 And that's, I think we've, I mean, it's not full bloom yet.
00:53:23.120 But.
00:53:23.200 The seeds are planted.
00:53:25.540 Yeah, the seeds are planted.
00:53:26.660 I really do think that.
00:53:27.960 Mm-hmm.
00:53:28.460 I really do believe that.
00:53:29.680 I agree.
00:53:30.300 And I have faith.
00:53:31.120 Yeah.
00:53:32.300 That's where Reagan and I, I guess, we're the same.
00:53:35.440 We're both actors.
00:53:36.620 And I think we both have a sunny disposition down at the bottom of it.
00:53:41.080 Yeah.
00:53:41.420 Yeah.
00:53:43.140 Show you just a couple of Reagan things.
00:53:47.140 George Washington's glasses.
00:53:49.180 Where?
00:53:49.880 Right here?
00:53:50.460 Yeah.
00:53:50.760 Oh, wow.
00:53:51.620 Yeah.
00:53:51.840 This is what was held down at his side on Inauguration Day, 1980.
00:53:58.580 So he could do his lines.
00:54:01.180 Yeah.
00:54:01.620 Isn't that amazing?
00:54:02.620 It's kind of a combination of different eras.
00:54:06.060 It is.
00:54:06.540 Actually.
00:54:07.180 Yeah.
00:54:08.500 It is.
00:54:09.000 It's kind of like the very beginning of his presidency, and it's also kind of a little bit of his Hollywood stuff.
00:54:15.520 Yeah.
00:54:15.860 Yeah.
00:54:16.680 You have a good time for this?
00:54:19.180 I'm good.
00:54:20.060 Good.
00:54:20.260 Should I have a good time?
00:54:21.380 Good.
00:54:21.760 Yes.
00:54:23.560 As he began his song and sang the heartfelt words, may God smile down on you.
00:54:29.780 I couldn't help but feel the strength of his faith and the warmth of his optimism.
00:54:35.900 Friends, don't mourn for the death of the morning in America.
00:54:39.740 Sure, it's shaping up to be a nasty day.
00:54:42.340 But like Reagan, Dennis Quaid understands that faith isn't a denial of reality.
00:54:47.940 It's the courage to face it with the God in whom we trust.
00:54:52.120 When you walk home to the door, when you're pulling back the shade, when you're kicking off your shoes at the end of the day, when you just need someone to tell your troubles to, I will be listening, baby.
00:55:07.640 Tell me everything.
00:55:09.640 Tell me everything.
00:55:10.020 Just let go, let your sweet soul sing.
00:55:13.760 I will take care of you.
00:55:15.320 Don't be afraid.
00:55:16.960 Because each and every night, oh, each and every night, I pray.
00:55:24.640 Let me your wildest dreams come true.
00:55:32.760 May the light shine down on you.
00:55:38.820 May God bless your baby breath.
00:55:42.280 May your wildest dreams come true.
00:55:48.860 May the wildest dreams come true.
00:55:58.540 May the wildest dreams come true.
00:56:00.540 And may God smile down on you.
00:56:18.860 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.
00:56:48.860 May the wildest dreams come true.
00:57:02.540 May the wildest dreams come true.