Did President Trump’s MSNBC Interview Help or Hurt His 2024 Chances？ ｜ Guests： Megyn Kelly & Brian Festa ｜ 9⧸18⧸23
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Summary
The Constitution is a little outdated and is actually putting our democracy at risk, according to Harvard Government Professor Steven Kofoed, author of the new book, Tyranny of the Minority: How to Lead a More Just and Fair Government.
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Of course, I found out this weekend that the Constitution is a little outdated.
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Because to me, the Constitution protects all aspects of democracy that exist in our republic.
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And I'm guessing that's one of the many things that makes it outdated.
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Here, let's listen to the Harvard government professor discussing his new book, Tyranny of the Minority.
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Well, we are the only presidential democracy in the world where the president can lose the election, lose the popular vote, and become president.
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We are one of the few democracies in the world where a major legislative body, the Senate, the party that loses the popular vote can control and routinely does control the Senate.
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We are the only established democracy in the world where justices have lifetime tenure.
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So this set of institutions and others allows political minorities to systematically thwart and sometimes even govern over majorities.
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Since its founding, we've improved the Constitution.
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We've done the hard work of making our Constitution more democratic.
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You know, women got the right to vote at the beginning of the 20th century by amending the Constitution.
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We began to elect senators rather than appoint senators at the beginning of the 20th century.
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And our democracy has strengthened itself over time through amendments, through improving it.
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What's tragic in our view is that in the last 50 years, we've sort of stopped doing that work, whereas other democracies have continued to make their constitutions more democratic.
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Since around 1970, we've abandoned that project.
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Wow, it's a good thing we have these Harvard professors that know everything and can teach the new government students, the new law students, how to view this outdated Constitution.
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That happens all the time, where a majority, we just get 51% to go, yeah, let's get them.
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Is wonderful the right word you're looking for there?
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Yeah, well, of course it is, because it's the majority.
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They get what they want, and they just implement whatever that is on the minority, and that's better now on the left's eyes?
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I guess I thought they were complaining about the opposite for a very long time.
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You know, we have, I guess, social media, you know, and we have fake meat now.
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So the founders couldn't have seen the fake meat thing going on.
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Maybe not, but still, I don't know why that would have anything to do with this.
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So that's the tyranny of the majority, when you get 51% that tells everyone else exactly how to live.
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Now, tyranny of the minority would be things like, I have to change my whole life.
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I have to change, you know, maybe worried about my daughter going into sports or going into a locker room or going into a bathroom.
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I have to worry about my wife going into a bathroom because a very, very, very, very, very small minority says that they are something they are scientifically not.
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And so I have to worry about the minority because the minority, a very small minority, is now subjecting the majority to their beliefs.
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Just like when you have 51% and you must comply.
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That's what makes our, if I may use the words of the Harvard doctor, I'm a doctor too.
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It makes his point, his claim about the republic invalid because, yes, that is exactly what a democracy gives you.
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So it's a balance to slow government down from doing anything.
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A slow government is good because it can't react quickly to anything.
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So, in other words, you have to stop and think, should we do the Patriot Act?
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And hopefully, there's enough checks and balances that the answer comes back, no.
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In our constitutional republic, we have something called the Bill of Rights that is supposed to stop the bullying of the majority and the minority.
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Now, they'll say, oh, no, the left has all of the power, so you better be nice.
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You better shut up or they'll come and get you.
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The reason why Americans have never been afraid of bullies is because we have rights.
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And those rights cannot be changed or taken away by anybody in government, minority or majority.
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Those rights are supposed to chain the government.
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It is the amendments to the Constitution that state clearly.
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They were written a year after the Constitution.
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Because our oh-so-dusty, out-of-touch founders knew that over time, people in politics and people who wanted power would violate people's rights.
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And so they wanted to make sure that the most important rights, five of the most important rights, are in the First Amendment.
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Let's spell it out as clearly as possible for those who wish to confuse, delude, or out-and-out lie to the American people.
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Government in this country, unlike every other country, cannot do these things.
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I tend to disagree with you with every fiber of my being.
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We haven't used it since your heroes of Woodrow Wilson and House and FDR took and peed all over that.
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The discrediting of this Constitution began with the progressives, who, by the way, were communists who just didn't believe in a bloody revolution.
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They wanted the same thing, just no bloody revolution.
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Because I don't think we're going towards a freer world.
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I don't think we're headed towards a better world.
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It seems to me, if you stand in the way, the minority or the majority will cut you down.
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Let us raise a standard that the wise and the honest can repair.
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George Washington, end of the Constitutional Convention.
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Let us raise a standard where people can come and find shelter under.
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And currently your government is not abiding by that Constitution.
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And your professors, that all of us, not me, thank God I learned my lesson.
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And all of us are paying for our children to go into these indoctrination camps.
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Glenn, a quick, another way I think about this, the difference between a constitutional
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republic that we have and a democracy and why it's, that difference is important.
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I think of democracy as a visit to the grocery store on an empty stomach, right?
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And the Constitution serves as the meal beforehand, right?
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If you eat that meal beforehand, you're going to go to the grocery store and get the things
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Not every little shiny package is going to go into your cart.
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And honestly, when done properly, it's the meal beforehand plus a little ozempic, right?
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Like you're supposed to be really restrained when you're in that grocery store.
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You're not supposed to change the rules all the time so that people can understand what
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Just that very basic thought is so central to why this country has been so successful
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And people look at it as like, well, why can't we react to these things immediately?
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You don't make rational decisions in a moment of stress.
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Why do you think they are denying, denying the fact, fact that they are working on a digital
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Why do you think the Fed and the government are denying the things that they're doing?
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Because they know right now you're not in a panic.
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Because right now, if you thought about it, you would do something about it.
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But we don't in America, for some reason, like to think things through in advance.
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Well, at the very last minute, and I'm telling you, it's coming.
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All of a sudden, there's a crisis of your dollar.
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That's why they are pushing global warming the way they are.
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They need you to freak out because it shuts your frontal cortex down.
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I mean, and the, they will rarely admit this, but the one time they will admit it is when
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See after every terrible incident of a mass shooting, for example.
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Why aren't, what, this is a broken system if we can't get this done.
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And then you get the situation where they've now decided to just start doing it outside
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We'll just start passing things in our brain, like, you know, student loan reform, like
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the eviction moratorium, like the gun ban in New Mexico.
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These are just like, well, we want you to do the thing that we keep thinking you're going
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And since you're not going along with it, we're just going to do it anyway.
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That's what they're doing with the student loan stuff right now.
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That's why these people have got to, they absolutely have to pay.
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For these kinds of things, there has to be a court of law has got to punish the, the
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people who overstepped the boundaries, at least make sure that we don't do it again.
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If you don't hurt the people that have done it by, by giving them a five yard penalty, they'll
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No wonder your kid is a football coach, isn't he?
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Kept going offsides, offsides, offsides, offsides, offsides, you know, false start.
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You're costing the team yesterday, a hundred yards.
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Well, who's calling penalties on our politician?
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They are costing your bank account more than a hundred yards.
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They are causing, they are causing the, the entire country to fall back.
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If we keep going backwards and that's what they're doing, they're doing it and they're
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And starting point here, look, Lujan Grisham should be impeached for what she did.
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That is, that's more than a five yard penalty, I know, but that is what should happen for
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Don't, you can't, if you're in New Mexico, you're probably thinking, well, she kind of
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And true, I'm glad that they've shut this down.
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This is the literal definition of what James Madison said was tyranny.
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Taking all of the power in the government into her own hands and just doing stuff.
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This is exactly the type of person that needs to be shut down immediately because they will
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go much, much farther than this if we do not do so.
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How about, uh, how about the speaker of the house in Texas?
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You had a speaker of the house who brought this up two days, two days after Paxton said,
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it looks like he was drunk on the floor of the house.
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But what experience do you have with such things?
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Two days later, all of a sudden, Ken Paxton finds himself with, uh, with an impeachment,
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Or is anybody in the Republican party going to force this guy to step down?
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Does anybody really have the balls to say, I suggest impeachment proceedings?
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A lot of talk about Donald Trump appearing on MSNBC over the weekend.
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Other than perhaps his people think that he has already sewed up the nomination for the Republican candidate.
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And so now he is trying to reach out and be more broad and appealing to.
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Swinging, switching into general election mode, essentially.
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So let's just go through some of the things that were said on MSNBC.
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If a federal ban landed on your desk, if you were reelected, would you sign it at 15?
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Well, people are starting to think of 15 weeks.
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That seems to be a number that people are talking about right now.
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I would sit down with both sides and negotiate something and we'll end up with peace in that issue for the first time in 52 years.
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I mean, DeSantis is willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.
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I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.
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First of all, he can't do that because that's not what the Supreme Court said.
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The Supreme Court said that this is not a federal issue.
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Now, if they want to make it a federal issue, I would imagine at least this court would come back and say, no, it's not a federal issue.
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The way you would handle this federally would be with a constitutional amendment.
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I don't think you could handle it federally with a passing a law of a 15-week ban.
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Now, a lot of people on the pro-life side want to try something like that to test the court, but I don't think it would work.
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And also, I mean, a 15-week ban, while you would eliminate 6% of abortions, I believe is the number.
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So, I mean, again, shooting for the sky as usual, Republicans, 6%, 94% of abortions remain.
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But, yeah, I mean, look, would it eliminate 6% of the worst, most egregious abortions?
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I mean, probably not, because some people who were close to the line would move them up, but still, it would be something.
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I can understand why some people would find it to be an attractive option.
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But I don't think it would hold constitutional muster.
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Certainly, by looking at the Dobbs decision, I don't think it fits with that.
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Again, that's not supposed to be what we do with these things.
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These go to the states, and they're supposed to be decided by the states.
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We have a federalist system here, or at least we act like we did at one point.
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And this is what we've seen now is kind of the state of play.
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Of course, the more important long-term way to get rid of this is to make it so that people, you know, to convince people and change hearts and minds so that people don't want it anymore, right?
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You can – if you pass a nationwide abortion ban right now, complete abortion ban, it would still be very difficult to stop, right?
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People are taking pills from India, being shipped in the mail.
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We're able to stop slavery, not because of having certainly a very strong legal protection against it, but also because no one wants to do it.
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Everyone agrees it's a horrible, horrible part of our history.
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So, you got that super, super classic happening where he's talking about being more moderate.
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By the way, Megyn Kelly joins me in about 22 minutes.
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First, you have DeSantis coming out and taking the pro-life view and standing strong and saying, that's nonsense.
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And he also took umbrage to what happened with Megyn Kelly.
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And, you know, Bruce was a great athlete and a very handsome person, very handsome guy.
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Just like we talk about, you know, the pandemic was a subject that nobody knew anything about.
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If, you know, if you want to take him seriously, but not literally on that statement.
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It was something that has come about a bigger part of the conversation.
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Is anybody bothered by the equivocation of both abortion and transgenderism?
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Trump's history on abortion in particular is particularly, it's back and forth, but also
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Like, he has never been a guy who held a strong ideological opinion on abortion.
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However, he is also largely responsible for the biggest win in the pro-life movement in
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In fact, I will tell you right now with complete and utter certainty, it's the most important
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Nothing else he will ever do in the future or has done in the past will compare with what
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happened with the Roe versus Wade being overturned.
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I mean, look, I think one thing that's really important when you consider how we approach
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the abortion issue right now is to understand that there may be some short-term political
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And if what your consideration is, is a short-term political future, what's going to happen in
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this next election, then you may want to be a little wishy-washy on this, right?
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I think Nikki Haley does have a strong ideological position on abortion, but she's not exactly
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And I think Trump, who I think can go honestly either way on it, I don't think he has a huge
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I think short-term political prospects, when you've got one election in front of you and
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that's what you're thinking about, may very well be the right way to go.
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However, long-term wins on this topic are won by people who hold a strong principle.
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You know, the left didn't come into 1985 and say, well, gay marriage is polling at 9%, let's
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They had to have people who believed in it and held that line for a very, very long time
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And eventually, people came to their side of the argument, whether you agree with it or
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They came to it because, you know, it was in television everywhere.
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So you don't have the right at this point creating all of the propaganda to sway people
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And even when that had been done and President Obama was elected, he's like, I'm against gay
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And when your concern is a short-term political win, that is where you will stand, right?
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Again, it's about what you're, what do you want, right?
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If what you want is a long-term win on this topic, you're going to hold the principle.
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And I think, look, there's a really easy political position for candidates to take right now,
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And your principle is, long-term, I want this to end because I think it's a terrible process.
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What I will do is move the ball and take every win that we can get to keep as many babies alive
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And I understand that I don't have the power to universally implement my wishes on this,
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So now, hang on, Trump is asked by Megyn Kelly, can a man be a woman?
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In my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman.
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Although they'll come up with some answer to that also.
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Someday, I heard just the other day, they have a way that now the man can give birth.
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I mean, I thought he was as clear as Donald Trump, you know, is sometimes.
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Like, Donald Trump will say anything that he believes.
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The whole point of why he became president of the United States is because he's so direct
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This is him trying to reach out to independence.
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If he doesn't get independence, he doesn't win.
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The question is whether that's a good idea or not.
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In my opinion, if a man give a woman, I think part of it is birth.
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Although they'll come up with some answer to that also.
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They have a way that now the man can give birth.
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I think overwhelming, if you take the tone of what he's actually saying there, is he says,
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Of course, his answer is, no, a man can't be kind of woman.
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But he's trying to answer, like, if he was in the room with Caitlyn Jenner.
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And when he owned the Miss Universe pageant, yes.
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Should children be provided with access to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones when they're minors?
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First of all, many of them, I heard like 62%, when they grow up, when they're older,
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Second of all, the parents have to make the decision.
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You know, they're trying to give it to school boards and schools and things to make a decision.
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You know, I talk about mutilation sometimes in my speeches.
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And then I'll stop and I'll say to the people in the audience, I'll say,
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can you imagine that I'm talking about we're going to stop mutilation of children?
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I am telling people, because I guess I'm a politician, whether I like it or not,
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as a politician, as somebody that represents a lot of people,
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I'm telling people that we're going to stop the mutilation of children.
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So would you be in favor of a ban then on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for minors?
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And there's a much different tone there than there was in his first answer.
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Do you notice, though, the side-by-side between that answer and the abortion answer?
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Like, to me, the transgender answer is he's trying to be careful and not offend people,
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He really feels strong, like a man can't become a woman.
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He's hiding it a little bit behind political language, but you can tell how he feels.
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The abortion one is, I mean, he's literally criticizing a six-week ban as horrible, right?
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Like, that is, like, if anything, he seems to have a pretty strong position the opposite way at some number, right?
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Like, he doesn't seem to have the exact number where he feels like.
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He's like, 15 weeks is something that people are talking about, was his line.
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And then six weeks is abhorrent or horrible or whatever his word was for that.
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So somewhere in between those two things seems to be where his line is.
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I mean, obviously, it is a more politically feasible position than what mine is,
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I don't even mind the title, because I know I'm out of step with everybody else.
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He's been writing words for Pat and I for how many years, Pat?
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We didn't believe any of this stuff, Your Honor.
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I mean, like, look, when you take a position that, you know, I don't know, 20 or 15 or 10% of people believe in,
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Anyway, I am not for limitation at all on abortion procedures.
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Now, 15 weeks is an interesting number, because what is that based on?
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Yeah, and some people will say even earlier, but six weeks, the heartbeat bills have generally
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Like, if you were to say, well, the end of life is typically declared when there is no
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heartbeat, you could legally say maybe the heartbeat begins life, which is, again, not
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my moral line, but I do feel like is a somewhat legally defensible line.
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The one where we just, like, kill them all whenever we want, not really legally defensible.
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Yeah, I don't understand the 15-week line other than, I feel good.
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If you look at the first trimester, second trimester, and third trimester, by the second
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So, the first one, you're saying, well, we'll let you have the popular abortions.
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Megan Kelly joins us in just a couple of seconds.
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There is a lot on the plate today, and Megan Kelly is going to help sort through some of
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So, your interview and the interview that the president did on MSNBC are getting a lot
00:45:06.560
of play over the weekend, because in some places he seemed to be hedging his bet, and
00:45:14.500
on MSNBC he talked about a 15-week limit on abortions.
00:45:21.900
Yeah, well, he's, this is one of the reasons why President Trump needs to put himself out
00:45:31.040
there more, because just like President Baseman, it's not okay for either one of these leading
00:45:36.380
candidates on the Dem or the GOP side to stay underground.
00:45:40.220
So, to his credit, Trump is putting himself out there much, much more than Joe Biden, but
00:45:44.840
we absolutely need to be probing their positions as the American public tries to make a decision,
00:45:51.080
And Trump, on the social issues, with all due credit for the Supreme Court justices we
00:45:59.060
He's lived pretty much 75 years, he's 77 now, I guess 73, whatever it is, before he became
00:46:06.660
You know, one of my debate questions for him back in 2016 was, when did you become a Republican?
00:46:12.540
Because if you look back at his life, he's been much, much more of a Democrat and more
00:46:17.480
liberal on social issues, like virtually everyone in New York City is.
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And I think there's still a fair amount of that in him.
00:46:25.320
So is this, for instance, let me play a clip with you, where he was talking about, can a
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Um, in my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman, I, I think, I think part of it is
00:46:52.100
Although they'll come up with some answer to that also.
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Someday I heard just the other day, they have a way that now the man can give birth.
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No, I would say, uh, uh, I'll continue my stance on that.
00:47:06.460
Cause he never really answered it, but he did shake his head.
00:47:19.280
I'm going to be honest, which is no, no, no, no, no, obviously no.
00:47:26.280
And it's not determined based on who can give birth determined by God.
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And it's pretty obvious just as soon as you come out of the womb, that's the way it's
00:47:37.260
That's the way it continues to be notwithstanding this weird agenda by some activists in this
00:47:48.480
I don't know if he's got, if he's trying to like appease some group of trans voters
00:47:53.720
that he thinks is going to make the difference with him, even when I had Don jr on my show,
00:48:02.040
I think that they think they're somehow going to do better with Democrats if they don't hit
00:48:09.060
this straight on, even though, I mean, 98% of the Republican party is united on this issue.
00:48:15.760
This is not, it is not a winner for any Republican to hedge on this.
00:48:24.820
I feel like this and the abortion thing, he must be thinking more general election where
00:48:29.400
there are Democrats who don't feel as Republicans do.
00:48:32.580
But, um, I really think there's such a small voting group on this particular issue.
00:48:36.520
He needs a better answer and I hope he gets it soon.
00:48:38.800
So, well, do you think this will shake the tree at all?
00:48:42.600
I mean, I think he looks at the poll numbers and thinks there's, I mean, I'm going to win.
00:48:56.740
So let's just get past that and just start being, you know, more moderate to appeal to a
00:49:04.860
I don't, I mean, I'm much more in the Ann Coulter field of thinking when it comes to who
00:49:14.220
I think they should nominate somebody who's going to drive turnout.
00:49:16.880
And generally with Republicans, that means someone who is conservative, who is genuinely
00:49:28.120
Um, now Trump does drive turnout because he's Trump and there's something about him that,
00:49:34.940
you know, his core constituency finds very appealing.
00:49:37.200
And, you know, that 30% isn't going to abandon him, even if he comes out and says he wants abortions
00:49:43.060
I mean, that's a really, that's really the question, not whether he can shoot somebody
00:49:47.100
on fifth Avenue, but could Trump say that he's pro abortion ninth month and still hold
00:49:54.800
Um, and he's almost toying with that experiment right now.
00:50:00.860
He's really more banking on the fact that he appointed the three justices who made the
00:50:05.500
Wade and he's not going to lose any Republican voters to Joe Biden on the issue of abortion,
00:50:12.640
He's playing the long game, but he does need to generate enthusiasm and it's already tamped
00:50:17.640
down, not in that 30% of Republicans, but the other half who are tepid on Trump.
00:50:23.080
So let me ask you about Joe Biden here for a second, because, uh, I've started to see,
00:50:30.880
uh, for instance, there was a, an article in the Washington post from a big, a big player,
00:50:39.160
And, uh, in the editorial, he said, you know, I love Joe Biden and he's done great things
00:50:45.100
and nothing against anything he's ever done, but I think it's time for him to go.
00:50:50.360
And I think that you see the supporters, uh, and the, uh, the key members possibly starting
00:51:00.480
to move in and saying, you know, Joe, I think maybe you should go.
00:51:03.460
Do you think he is the, uh, candidate by the time we get to the, the, uh, election?
00:51:10.920
I don't know, Glenn, I'm seeing what you're seeing.
00:51:15.920
It seems like there's a movement underfoot to gently oust him and her.
00:51:21.140
That was what was interesting in WAPO, which was, they both need to go.
00:51:26.440
We don't want to be stuck with her, but you know, live by the sword, die by the sword.
00:51:31.240
They selected her for identity politics reasons and good luck subbing her out, uh, and subbing
00:51:36.600
in some other damn like Gavin Newsom, you know, who doesn't check the right boxes and
00:51:40.960
even who does check the right boxes, uh, Sonny Hostin woke identity politics warrior over
00:51:46.040
on the view was saying, if he subs out Kamala Harris, he's going to lose the black vote.
00:51:51.440
Even if he puts back in a black woman, but in any event, you can feel the ground shifting
00:51:57.400
CNN doing a long fact check on five eyes last Thursday, and I've never seen them unleash
00:52:07.980
Um, now more and more sort of getting interested in just how old president Biden is and pulling
00:52:16.060
The Ignatius piece, um, there's been just example after example of how they seem to be
00:52:28.120
But I also think you have to ask yourself realistically, how do you get rid of him?
00:52:34.400
You know, I think there's some fantasy that Barack Obama could do it.
00:52:37.360
He'd come get, you know, like give him the tap on the shoulder.
00:52:39.600
Like you'd get at the, at the dance time to sit down, your dancing's over.
00:52:50.800
Well, voluntarily, uh, George Washington, but remember that Nixon did that and Nixon only
00:53:00.080
did it when he realized the party was no longer with him.
00:53:04.140
When all of the people he counted on, uh, to help support him, we're turning on him.
00:53:13.060
There's a, there's a good way to do this and there is the tough way.
00:53:16.780
And we're offering you the chance to make this your idea.
00:53:20.740
And, uh, well, I think part of the pressure might be the Hunter Biden scandal.
00:53:28.340
When you saw the, um, uh, the, uh, charges last week, are these real or are these bogus too?
00:53:39.820
I mean, look, they're, they're real in that he did it and any one of us would have been
00:53:45.860
But of course they were brought very reluctantly by a guy who's on his side.
00:53:50.200
David Weiss, the U S attorney for Delaware is on Hunter Biden's side.
00:53:54.880
He's the man who has been investigating him for six years, who let the most damning charges
00:54:02.760
Even though Hunter's lawyers offered what's called a tolling agreement, they offered to
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So we're supposed to believe now he's going to be tough on Hunter.
00:54:18.920
It was a fig leaf charge on only the gun, uh, statute, which by the way, a lot of people
00:54:26.160
This gun statute has been deemed unconstitutional under the second amendment.
00:54:30.580
And so it's possible they could go away on constitutional grounds that would probably
00:54:35.780
Uh, so it's a kind of a low stakes matter, but let's say, let's say he gets convicted,
00:54:43.240
Some are saying this is a smart move by the Republicans because at least now Hunter and
00:54:48.900
Joe have real skin in the game, he could potentially face jail time.
00:54:52.840
And maybe it gives Dems like Obama and the party leaders on the Dem side, the power to
00:55:01.360
You'll pardon him while announcing you're just a one-termer.
00:55:04.960
You can give your son the pardon, keep him out of jail, save the Democrat party.
00:55:09.180
You'll be on Mount Rushmore and you can save the whole family.
00:55:15.340
If that's the price it takes to get him out of there, let's do it.
00:55:18.020
Uh, so be as, uh, be as tough on this as you can be when you see the, uh, the left saying
00:55:31.760
there, there's no evidence, there's no evidence.
00:55:37.900
I don't know if that all adds up to, you know, proof, but there's tons of evidence.
00:55:43.320
If you were standing in a court of law, cause it's what you used to do and your client was
00:55:50.460
Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and you saw the evidence that the prosecution has shown already
00:55:57.760
and they say there's more, how would you assess your chance of winning?
00:56:07.280
If it's preponderance of the evidence where you just have to prove 51% more likely than 49%
00:56:14.760
If it's beyond a reasonable doubt, I would acquit him so far, so far.
00:56:19.480
But we, that's only because we haven't gotten all the bank records, which they're about to
00:56:23.260
So, but there's a, it's more than 51% likely he did this.
00:56:27.800
I mean, I would put it more up in the sixties, but if you're talking about conviction of a
00:56:35.540
And what do the bank records, what are you looking for in the bank records?
00:56:39.940
Well, I mean, I would want to see the actual deposits of the money, but you know, into Joe
00:56:45.940
Biden's accounts in order to, you know, actually convict of a crime, but we had Peter Schweitzer
00:56:51.540
on the show on Friday and he's of course, the Hunter expert.
00:56:55.160
He was making some very interesting points about how in order to show bribery, in order to show
00:57:00.620
corruption, you really don't even need to show any deposits into Joe Biden's accounts.
00:57:05.420
Showing the deposits into Hunter Biden's accounts is enough.
00:57:07.800
Not to mention the other eight family members who were on the take.
00:57:11.220
You know, I mean, the benefit to the family member is sufficient.
00:57:15.180
And this kind of brings me back to where I'm coming into this whole corruption scandal.
00:57:19.960
I almost feel like Republicans are overstating their own burden.
00:57:25.800
You know, it's, it doesn't need, I realize why they're doing the impeachment.
00:57:29.600
I'm actually in favor of it, but it doesn't need to go that route.
00:57:34.800
The corruption is there plain as the nose on your face.
00:57:38.820
I want one, one honest journalist, just one with access to president Biden to get him in
00:57:46.920
an interview and say, how dare you allow your son to sit on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian
00:57:55.760
When you were the point man on the Obama administration's corruption cleanup in Ukraine.
00:58:04.200
Is that not disqualifying to your ongoing role as a public official?
00:58:10.840
We're not going to see that, but I think it is.
00:58:22.100
He beheads his opponents and you took your son who you knew had a drug problem and drinking
00:58:29.820
problem and could easily be roped into anything.
00:58:33.460
And you allowed him to sit on on that board with that man.
00:58:42.360
When when he was drug adult, we were just looking back at the timeline on Hunter's addiction.
00:58:49.460
I actually have this right in front of me because I was looking at it in preparation for my
00:58:54.320
So he joined the board of Burisma in April 2014.
00:58:59.040
That same year, he was just discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for
00:59:05.440
That same year when he joined the board, which Joe knows all of this.
00:59:10.520
This is while his father was overseeing US policy in Ukraine.
00:59:13.580
By May of 15, he had a relapse on his alcohol addiction.
00:59:19.520
By 2016, he had a relapse of his crack cocaine addiction.
00:59:24.740
And this is all while he's doing business with this with the Chinese energy company,
00:59:28.920
CEFC, while he's on the board of Burisma, which his father knows because he's regularly
00:59:34.060
calling into the Hunter business meetings in order to lend a wide name.
00:59:37.660
He knows his crack addled son is sitting on these boards, cashing checks, and he's facilitating
00:59:46.360
I mean, at a minimum, this counteracts the narrative of what a great dad he is.
00:59:56.380
You can catch Megan Kelly wherever you get your podcast.
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Kathy wrote in about her dog after the dog started taking rough greens not too long ago.
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He's not eating undesirable things in the trail anymore.
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No, I don't know, Kathy, but I don't think I want to go there.
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The undesirable things that are laying in the trail of none of our dogs should be eating, but there's a reason they eat it, believe it or not.
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Now, remember, we're not heading towards Marxism or communism or anything like that.
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Chicago Democratic mayor, Mayor Brandon Johnson, is exploring opening now city owned grocery stores.
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To address food inequalities, according to Wednesday press release from the Chicago mayor.
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Chicago's newly elected mayor announced a partnership with the Progressive National Nonprofit Group,
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Economic Security Project, to solve the lack of food access in some neighborhoods.
01:02:12.520
So remember, we're not talking about communism here.
01:02:23.520
What does it have to do with anything like communism?
01:02:30.420
And of course, some people will point out maybe the reason why there's not a lot of grocery stores is the major problems with crime and the policies are left to address them.
01:02:42.300
And the fact that, you know, illegal immigrants are overrunning the country.
01:02:47.640
But this is the same mayor who's Brandon Johnson, right?
01:02:51.360
He said this, and I hope everyone is hearing this.
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As you may be coming across and becoming a guest in our country, I hope you hear the words of Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson,
01:03:00.960
who eloquently stated, sanctuary means that everyone is welcome here.
01:03:07.980
As a city, we commit to take care of each other and provide all of our neighbors with the resources they need to thrive.
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If I spoke any other language than bad English, I would say in Spanish right now and in Mexican.
01:03:30.360
You know, if I'm going to speak one, I should speak both.
01:03:36.920
That's the place to go, and you're going to get city-run grocery stores.
01:03:40.240
Because he easily could have said, we will provide the things for you to survive, but that's not what he said.
01:03:50.560
It's a little cold, they say, but I'm not sure that's all that true.
01:04:02.100
I mean, you might have to dodge various projectiles here and there, but, you know, as long as you're somewhat agile, you should be fine.
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We've just revealed the most significant monthly inflation increase since June of 22.
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Even the cost of keeping a roof over your head is up.
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The Federal Reserve's magical 2% inflation target is looking more and more like a fairy tale every day, and that's really not good.
01:04:58.280
Washington, shockingly, doesn't seem to have a plan to make things better.
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In fact, they're doing what they're doing, printing more money to make it even worse.
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We just told you that Chicago is looking into city-run and owned grocery stores.
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Because for some reason, they can't keep grocery.
01:06:08.800
And so, they're thinking now about having city-run.
01:06:14.680
It reminded me of a story from the city of Highland Park in Illinois.
01:06:20.420
They're having a really, a poverty simulation event.
01:06:26.880
And it's where you can figure out what it, you can feel like what it's like to be poor.
01:06:31.220
However, they're holding it at the Highland Park Country Club.
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And we'll give you more, we'll give you more information.
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I've heard this has been postponed or canceled.
01:06:47.940
I've heard they have delicious food at the Highland Park Country Club.
01:06:53.720
But we'll get back into that here in just a second.
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He is, we are, we the Patriots USA co-founder and vice president.
01:07:14.760
And I'd just like to know what the latest is on the governor who now is, you know, pulling it back and say only,
01:07:23.200
no, I'm, we're saying you can't carry, you know, now on school grounds or in city parks,
01:07:29.760
which I don't think you could ever carry a gun on school grounds in the first place.
01:07:43.620
We filed a request for a temporary restraining order and a permanent injunction, actually, lawsuit within 24 hours of her issuing her original order about a week ago.
01:07:56.720
And Judge David Urias, Biden appointee, actually did rule in our favor last Wednesday and issued that temporary restraining order.
01:08:06.080
She comes out on Friday and issues a new order, as you just stated.
01:08:11.480
It actually applies to not just school grounds, but public parks and playgrounds.
01:08:17.640
So in our view, she's bordering on contempt here because the original order also included public parks and playgrounds.
01:08:25.760
And the judge already issued a restraining order against her.
01:08:29.460
So she comes out and says, well, I'll just issue a new order.
01:08:34.560
We're going to actually file another request for a TRO, a temporary restraining order against her.
01:08:39.680
But if this is enforced in any way, this new order, in our view, that's contempt.
01:08:48.680
I mean, what should happen, in my view, is she should either be impeached or she should receive some sort of punishment more than a slap on the hands.
01:08:59.680
If they if our politicians don't learn that you touch the constitutional stove, which is very hot, you will get burned.
01:09:08.860
If we don't teach them that in some way, they'll just keep doing this over and over and over again.
01:09:18.640
That's why we thought this case was so important and why we jumped into this.
01:09:22.560
Like I said, within 24 hours, because for a governor just to flagrantly ignore and defy not only the United States Constitution, which is the worst part,
01:09:33.440
but also the decision and the Bruin decision just last year by the United States Supreme Court, which clearly stated that you couldn't do what she's doing here.
01:09:44.680
You can't create these so-called sensitive places based on high crime rates and take away people's right to defend themselves.
01:09:54.620
And it's almost like she took that decision and said, I'm going to do exactly what the Supreme Court said I can't do.
01:10:01.440
So this is a showdown between governors and the United States Supreme Court, between governors and our Constitution, our Second Amendment rights.
01:10:09.780
And that's why it's so important that we all of us, you know, not just our organization, of course,
01:10:14.480
but everyone needs to stand up and fight against this to keep our right to bear arms, to protect ourselves and our families.
01:10:34.500
Yeah, well, I hope the people of New Mexico remember this and show her the door.
01:10:53.440
You know, as everybody probably knows, these lawsuits are extremely expensive.
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And we are a nonprofit public interest law firm.
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So if anyone is able to make a donation, we have a 2A legal fund on our website at WeThePatriotsUSA.org.
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We know times are tough, but we would greatly appreciate if people could support this action because we want to be ready to fight back, not only against Governor Grisham, but any other governor or the Biden administration that does this.
01:11:26.780
We want to be able to jump right into court and fight back against it.
01:11:49.960
So my wife said, let's go to this movie this weekend.
01:12:13.740
And, you know, those are, I know you have a hat rule.
01:12:19.820
I don't like movies that feature actors in fancy hats.
01:12:41.700
So she tried to make you believe it was a horror movie?
01:12:47.460
I think that's the way I read it because I wasn't really listening to my.
01:12:58.860
Knowing you wouldn't pay attention to what she was saying.
01:13:04.040
And to do that, she decided to say something that probably explained exactly what it was,
01:13:11.420
And I see Kenneth Branagh and I'm like, oh no, it's no.
01:13:22.300
And then I thought, wait, isn't he the guy that makes all that Shakespeare crap?
01:13:47.960
I will say, you know, can I, on the horror movie thing?
01:13:50.460
You watched, you said you watched some football this weekend.
01:14:06.140
I have kids right in that age of like, you know, they don't watch.
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I don't have them watching all sorts of, you know, horror movies or, you know, like I'm
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And people say, hey, you're keeping your kid in a bubble.
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My belief is, and I could be wrong on this, but I remember growing up.
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And as you get older, you have plenty of time to do all the really bad things that the world
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Oh, and there's nobody there to nag you to stop you.
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My daughter's going to have plenty of time to do all the terrible things this world offers.
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But for right now, I'd like to keep them away from that.
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And like, they're still young enough in which like, they're watching a horror movie.
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You know, like, I don't know what time that expires.
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I remember moments from my childhood seeing like moments from like a Stephen King movie.
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They are running an advertisement for some Exorcist sequel.
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And like, as a dad, who's going to be the guy getting up in the middle of the night if
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And I'm watching and I'm like, what is happening?
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I thought at first, because I was only half watching, I thought, this has got to be a
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Because you see Exorcist, it's been done so many times.
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I, you know, after I, you know, after I moved out of my parents' house.
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But I could only, I've never watched the whole thing.
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Because this is at the time when everybody was like vomiting in the theaters and everything
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So then she comes at night and she's too afraid to sleep in her own bed.
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She sleeps in the bottom bunk for like a month.
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Especially because we live in a world in which basically the only thing you can safely allow
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And then, but then occasionally there'll be a commercial in which the devil's hand comes
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Can we have, there used to be a, an unwritten rule.
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When the family is watching something together, can we make it something the family can watch
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If you're up in the fourth quarter and it's 11 o'clock at night on a Sunday night game
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or a Monday night game, you know, I understand you might have different rules there, but like
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How, I mean, billions and billions and billions of dollars.
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The networks, all of the top rated shows for the entire year are NFL games.
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Do you expect us to turn down money just because it's the devil?
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No, I'm not even asking you to have a standard.
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I'm willing to pay what my dollars aren't good enough for you.
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Wait, do you even have a Satan button over there, don't you?
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You just don't scare the crap out of the children.
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What does Satan say when something is really, really bad?
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Let me tell you about real estate agents I trust.
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In almost all cases, the secret to success in buying and selling a home is having the right real estate agent.
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Now, it's not just as simple as, hey, I know a good real estate agent.
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You need somebody who can really get the job done.
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You're going to be working with the best real estate agents in the business.
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People who sometimes literally work around the clock to get you into a home.
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Have somebody who actually listens to you, knows the best business practices, and executes on them every day.
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You know, I just think, you know, if you want to stay warm in the winter, wear a sweater.
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Food prices, you know, kind of a stagflation kind of thing.
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And lo and behold, the Americans are just coming down the steps now after being freed from being hostages in Iran.
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Well, the end of the first act, ladies and gentlemen, end with the hostages coming down from Iran.
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So, I guess the rest of it is all going to be new and a shocking, shocking surprise.
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But I'm glad to see that we paid $6 billion and got five hostages.
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Isn't it a little bit unfair to these countries that we don't publish a rate sheet?
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Or we just say, hey, if you just kidnap this many Americans and we'll give you this much money.
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Some would say paying for hostages, you know, paying terrorists is a bad thing.
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You'd like to publish like a price list, like a menu.
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We're like, hey, you know, kidnap three, get a deal of some sort.
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Yeah, but the other thing is we have to like lower the amount they get for each terrorist
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For each person they kidnap, we give a little bit less money.
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Okay, but you have to keep, you know, you kidnap 100, you have to keep the price above
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the price of a bullet and just below the price of what the, you know, what they have to pay
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Well, they're doing their best to take out Russell Brand now.
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Also, the city of Highland Park, they were going to hold a poverty simulation event.
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Where, you know, a bunch of woke, rich people could pretend to be poor for two and a half hours.
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I just want to say, I mean, you're going to feel poor just me saying this.
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But it was being held at the Highland Park Country Club right there on Park Avenue.
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And they decided not to hold it, not to hold it, I guess.
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We have some of the things I'm going to ask Stu to try to understand poverty a little bit.
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And we'll go through that here in just a second.
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You've heard me talk about the MySlippers, which I love.
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Tell me all you know about Percal bedsheets, Stu.
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But it's the Percal that makes them so special, don't you think?
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You know, we're probably talking over the heads of some people when we say Percal bedsheets.
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You know, they're like, what the hell is a Percal bedsheets?
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And so I know Stu and I are racing to the phone right now for our Percal sheets.
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As low as $25 for a twin set, $35 for a queen set.
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At some place in America, there is a woman listening to us, rolling her eyes and going,
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I heard a song and I'm going to play a little bit of it.
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And shockingly, it has nothing to bleep out and it doesn't revolve around anybody's butt,
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You have to use the B word and also something has to be happening to somebody's butt in all pop music.
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It doesn't have anything to do with anybody's butt.
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But I heard this and I thought to myself, wow, we really have no idea.
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We have no idea what the world has gone through before.
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We're all like, yeah, we should go to war with Russia or Putin.
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man, when the lights go on again all over the world,
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I mean, you know, hey, when the power comes on again,
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I'll be pissed and it'll be great and everything,
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but I'm suing somebody because my power went out.
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but not when the lights come back on again all over the world.
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And the boys are home again all over the world.
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And the boys are home again all over the world.
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You know, you might think, well, it's World War II.
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but it would also include your husband, your son,
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is the only thing that falls from the skies above.
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I've never seen an airplane fall out of the sky either
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are the only things that fall from the sky above.