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00:00:31.600 Welcome back, Stu.

00:00:32.840 Thank you.

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00:00:38.820 No.

00:00:40.240 We missed you, too.

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00:03:39.820 I need everybody to panic right now, just panic, because there's some disturbing America's doomsday plane.

00:03:50.520 One of our doomsday planes has flown into Washington, D.C. last night.

00:03:56.720 And this, coupled with the president approved a strike plan.

00:04:03.040 Now, he hasn't given a date or anything, he's just picked one.

00:04:05.820 But this, with the doomsday plane, I mean, I just have to say it, right?

00:04:14.020 In the streets, steal from Macy's, burn down houses, because we're all going to die in a fiery nuclear holocaust very, very soon. 0.53

00:04:23.440 Or, or none of that.

00:04:27.920 Sometimes facts don't tell you the whole story.

00:04:32.220 We'll go there. No, no, no, panic. It's better for the country if you panic.

00:04:36.120 We'll get to that here in just a second. Stand by.

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00:06:03.460 Well, welcome back, Stu Bergeer.

00:06:05.440 Hello, Stu.

00:06:06.520 Glenn, I am so happy to be here in your presence.

00:06:10.680 Well, it doesn't sound like you're panicking enough, and I need you to panic just a little bit.

00:06:17.140 I need you to be – we brought Jason in.

00:06:19.900 Jason's been with me this week.

00:06:22.220 We've been working on all kinds of doomsday things, you know.

00:06:27.460 I mean, the world is coming apart, wouldn't you say, Jason?

00:06:30.180 Oh, everywhere.

00:06:30.980 The sky is falling.

00:06:31.880 It's insane.

00:06:33.180 I don't know if you heard this, Stu, but one of America's doomsday planes made a flight to Andrew's Air Force Base last night.

00:06:44.800 Left at 6 o'clock, landed in Maryland at 10.

00:06:48.960 Now, in case you don't know what this is, this is to protect the Secretary of Defense and other national security officials to keep the government operating in the time of a nuclear war.

00:07:01.940 And it was spotted last night by flight trackers and made a very long, winding route to the Capitol.

00:07:09.040 And it's sitting there, right there, ready, ready to go.

00:07:13.440 The doomsday plane.

00:07:15.640 Now, in case you don't know, here's what was really suspicious.

00:07:19.140 Apparently, it usually uses the call sign of Order 6.

00:07:25.980 This is Order 6, okay, like Air Force 1, Order 6.

00:07:29.500 No, what was really disturbing to flight watchers was it was using the unusual call sign of Order 0-1.

00:07:40.720 You see what they're saying there, okay?

00:07:45.140 No, what are they?

00:07:46.280 Okay, I don't either, but it's got to be something nefarious that we should panic about.

00:07:50.840 Now, this is a fleet of four E-4Bs, and, you know, yes, they make regular flights around the country all year long just to maintain readiness.

00:08:03.840 But this also serves as an airborne command center for the president and secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff.

00:08:11.740 In case there is a bomb in Washington, D.C. or all around the world, it can fly for up to two weeks without landing.

00:08:21.600 I mean, it will fall out of the sky if somebody doesn't refuel it every 12 hours, but it could stay up in the sky for up to two weeks.

00:08:29.580 So, and it has 112 people on board, and it can withstand a nuclear blast, a cyber attack, electromagnetic effects.

00:08:39.640 It can fire retaliatory missiles.

00:08:42.560 It can communicate with anybody in the world at any time, you know, so that you could call down back to Earth, and you could be like, hey, hey, and they'll be like, I'm on fire right now.

00:08:52.380 I can't talk.

00:08:53.180 I'm really on fire.

00:08:54.240 I got to go.

00:08:55.820 But that's on the ground.

00:08:58.220 Well, it was in the sky last night, but it's on the ground, waiting, waiting for nuclear war.

00:09:04.740 And as if that wasn't bad enough, we find out from the Wall Street Journal in a, quote, leak.

00:09:13.860 Now, I want to say, quote, leak, because it was in the journal's article, in quotes, not air quotes, actual quotes, leak.

00:09:24.120 Be, according to Pentagon, leaks.

00:09:28.060 Okay.

00:09:29.420 What did they leak?

00:09:30.640 Well, they cited sources close to the president and said he has withheld the final order in an effort to give the Iranian officials to change a chance to accept negotiations on a peace deal.

00:09:44.160 Well, but next week, it's going to be very, very big, maybe less than a week.

00:09:49.580 What they did is the Joint Chiefs came in and they said, Mr. President, we have this plan, this plan, this plan, or this plan.

00:10:00.320 And he chose one.

00:10:03.260 And they said, okay, so we're going in now.

00:10:05.420 And he said, no, I just chose one of the plans that you presented us with.

00:10:10.860 Okay, well, we're ready to go.

00:10:14.280 Now, that sounds pretty ominous, like we should all panic.

00:10:18.660 You put that together and the night watch plane and your skin is going to burn off your face at any time.

00:10:26.760 Your hair will be on fire at any time.

00:10:29.060 You'll be burned into the sidewalk.

00:10:31.400 There'll be nothing left but a shadow of you soon.

00:10:36.420 Because it's much easier to jump there than it is to say, wait a minute, doesn't the Pentagon and the Joint Chiefs come to the president with plans for possibilities of war when things start to heat up for any country?

00:10:56.960 I mean, don't we have plans for invasions for lots of countries?

00:11:02.180 Don't we have that?

00:11:03.320 And then what he does, so when it happens, the president doesn't have to have a bunch of people in the room debating.

00:11:09.780 They do it when everything is calm.

00:11:11.320 They come in and say, Mr. President, if this happens, we recommend this, this, or this.

00:11:16.320 And then he chooses one, and then it goes into a file, and it sits in a filing cabinet for a very, very long time until it's outdated or until they have to have it.

00:11:28.780 And then they pull it out of the filing cabinet and say, Mr. President, this was the plan we chose.

00:11:32.680 Do we execute?

00:11:33.940 Yes, execute now.

00:11:36.280 Now, it sounds much worse if we will just print that there's been a leak that what he's done is he's chosen the plan on how to destroy Iran.

00:11:47.240 And the doomsday plane is in the air.

00:11:54.000 This is what I would like to call panicans.

00:11:57.560 This is what I would like to call the media and their propaganda.

00:12:01.700 This is what I would like to call negotiation as the reality.

00:12:06.720 And this is also what I would like to call the reason why nobody watches or listens to the news anymore, because everything is leading right directly to your death.

00:12:19.340 Now, some things might lead directly to your death.

00:12:23.000 These two things are not one of them.

00:12:25.220 Now, I wanted to bring Jason in because he's our military analysis, and he, you know, he's, I mean, am I wrong?

00:12:33.780 No.

00:12:34.480 You actually missed one, Glenn.

00:12:36.180 I did.

00:12:37.220 Earlier this week.

00:12:38.120 Wait, will it make people panic or?

00:12:39.460 Oh, absolutely.

00:12:40.220 Panic ensues.

00:12:41.060 Okay, all right.

00:12:41.520 Okay, good, good, good.

00:12:42.980 Earlier this week, a nuke sniffer plane.

00:12:47.100 Nuke sniffer.

00:12:48.500 Nuke sniffers.

00:12:49.440 Sounds interesting.

00:12:50.440 A plane.

00:12:51.580 Actually lifted off and flew a route, an unusual infinity sign route over the northern continental United States.

00:13:00.780 Wow.

00:13:01.580 Quoted from the article, this rarely happens.

00:13:05.200 Rarely.

00:13:06.540 Rarely if you don't count multiple times every single year since they were invented, which was probably sometime during the Cold War.

00:13:14.240 But they're not flying every day.

00:13:15.860 No, they're not flying every day.

00:13:16.920 They're not flying every day.

00:13:17.620 They're not flying 24 hours a day.

00:13:19.100 It's rare.

00:13:19.640 That's kind of rare.

00:13:20.240 It's rare.

00:13:20.700 Yeah.

00:13:20.880 Yeah, it's very, very rare.

00:13:22.780 It's relative, I guess, how you say rare.

00:13:24.340 Yeah, exactly right.

00:13:26.280 If it's not up there every day, it's rare.

00:13:28.540 Okay, so we have the nuke sniffer up.

00:13:32.860 We have the night watch doomsday plane, and the president has selected his plan.

00:13:39.880 It's over.

00:13:41.140 It's all over.

00:13:42.840 Why even go to work?

00:13:44.780 You know, in fact, let me just say, hey, good night, everybody.

00:13:47.940 You know, just in case it's not over today, maybe I should finish the show.

00:13:55.920 Okay, now, here is the full report on where people actually are on this, because if you

00:14:04.260 listen to, you know, anything on social media, oh, my gosh, we all hate each other.

00:14:09.740 Oh, my gosh, we are so divided.

00:14:11.500 Oh, my gosh, this president, he is a, well, he's more than a Nazi.

00:14:17.260 He's more than a Nazi. 0.82

00:14:18.600 He's worse than Hitler, and everybody is against it. 0.96

00:14:23.680 Okay, here are the questions.

00:14:25.920 What is your opinion of President Trump's position that Iran must be prevented from developing

00:14:30.600 a nuclear weapon by any means necessary?

00:14:34.000 Any means necessary.

00:14:38.700 No opinion, 2.7.

00:14:40.760 That is stunning to me, that only 2.7, only 3% are like, I don't know.

00:14:48.760 That's amazing.

00:14:49.640 In America today, most, I would think that would be 79%.

00:14:53.920 I don't know.

00:14:54.920 Now, what's coming out on Netflix this week?

00:15:00.180 But only 2.7, say, I don't know.

00:15:03.920 Disapprove, 22.9.

00:15:06.620 Approve, again, the question is, Iran must be prevented from developing a nuclear weapon by any means necessary.

00:15:18.200 Approve, 74.4%.

00:15:21.320 Now, Stu, I'm not good at stats like you are.

00:15:25.160 But that doesn't seem close to me.

00:15:28.400 It doesn't seem like we're that divided.

00:15:31.680 No, it seems like there's a lot of agreement.

00:15:34.620 That doesn't seem, I feel like if you're following, like, online communities, you might not have that same impression.

00:15:40.580 I feel like, I don't know.

00:15:45.060 No.

00:15:45.360 I don't know.

00:15:46.260 It felt that close to me.

00:15:49.760 Okay.

00:15:50.000 Now, the party participation in this poll, 37.7% Democrat, 38.1% Republican.

00:15:59.060 No party or other party, 24.2.

00:16:02.960 All right.

00:16:03.580 Now, that doesn't seem close.

00:16:09.420 That seems like maybe it's a good thing.

00:16:14.140 One other piece of news.

00:16:16.980 Did you hear?

00:16:18.860 Did you hear the Supreme Leader over in Iran, what he said?

00:16:23.300 He said, if we do anything more, there's going to be hell to pay, and it's going to be irreparable.

00:16:32.200 And you should listen to him, because on their TV, their state-run TV over there, they're telling the truth.

00:16:39.200 Our media, not telling the truth.

00:16:40.420 Their media, telling the truth.

00:16:42.200 They have complete control of the skies over Israel right now. 0.74

00:16:48.120 Israel can't move. 1.00

00:16:49.080 They're boxed in.

00:16:49.740 They're about ready to collapse.

00:16:50.740 And the Israeli babies are all lying in the streets on fire right now because of all of the bombs.

00:17:00.160 And they're going to do it to America, because they're about to win, according to their state-run media.

00:17:04.980 They're about to win in Iran.

00:17:08.880 I mean, in Israel, because they're about to give up.

00:17:11.240 Israel's about to give up. 0.69

00:17:12.200 They've learned their lesson.

00:17:14.600 And they're about to move on to us.

00:17:16.680 And we should be very, very careful.

00:17:18.360 Now, meanwhile, this incredible state, I mean, they are really, really doing a good job at really everything.

00:17:26.680 Now, except for their TV broadcast, which was hacked several times yesterday.

00:17:32.040 It was hacked with pictures and calls for the public to rise up and take to the streets to protest against the government.

00:17:39.340 Now, when I hear that, I immediately know the truth.

00:17:44.920 Jews.

00:17:46.100 The Jews did it. 1.00

00:17:48.620 The opposition linked Iran International quotes officials as saying it only affected those receiving the broadcast via satellite, suggesting interference with satellite signals.

00:17:59.100 So, in other words, they're TV broadcast stations, because we all have rabbit ears on our TVs now, you know.

00:18:06.760 If you're getting it right directly from the stick, right from the TV antenna, you know, they can't hack that.

00:18:14.100 They can't hack that.

00:18:15.040 Just satellite and, you know, things like that.

00:18:17.740 And nobody's using satellite.

00:18:19.060 Hackers reportedly breached Iranian TV, airing a call for people to take to the streets.

00:18:28.300 So, that's good.

00:18:30.420 Now, we have one more poll for you.

00:18:33.160 A survey conducted by the Neapolitan News Service, which is, well, when I was a kid, was my favorite kind of ice cream, but I digress.

00:18:40.340 They just shared with Just the News, found that 77% of respondents believe nuclear weapons should pose a threat to Americans.

00:18:48.040 45% claimed it posed a very serious threat to Americans.

00:18:52.920 32% say it posed a somewhat serious threat.

00:18:56.380 A total of 14% said it would not pose a serious threat if Iran acquired a nuclear weapons.

00:19:01.880 And 9%, this is more like us, 9%, I don't know, I don't know, has, you,

00:19:09.480 your poll service named Neapolitan, you make that ice cream too?

00:19:15.200 A total of 14% said it would not pose a serious threat if Iran acquired nuclear weapons.

00:19:20.920 The poll also found a majority believed Iran getting nuclear weapons should pose a serious threat to Israel.

00:19:25.700 43% Americans should support Israel, while only 8% said,

00:19:29.500 Well, only 8% of, I'm going to air quote it, Americans, said that we should support Iran.

00:19:41.360 One-third of respondents, 31%, said the U.S. should not support either country.

00:19:46.020 17%

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00:21:31.940 Jason, before I let you go here, is there anything that we need to know that's new,

00:21:36.740 that happened overnight, that is worth reporting on?

00:21:40.120 There was a strike on an Israeli hospital yesterday in Beersheba, which was pretty bad.

00:21:47.940 Iran's doing this strategy of basically firing off hundreds of dumb missiles, 0.92

00:21:51.860 but they have a few very, very smart weapons that are getting through.

00:21:55.420 Those hypersonic missiles are scary as hell.

00:21:59.040 There's no way to stop them.

00:22:00.200 Right.

00:22:00.500 And especially in an array, like if you've seen the skies over Iran, it looks like,

00:22:03.920 what was that game we played as kids, that missile command?

00:22:06.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:07.040 Where you just blow them up as they come down.

00:22:08.640 That's what it looks like over Iran right now.

00:22:10.520 It's scary.

00:22:10.980 You mean Israel?

00:22:11.820 In Israel, yeah.

00:22:12.520 Yeah.

00:22:13.620 The hypersonic missiles, are they hypersonic just at the end,

00:22:17.780 or is that the way it looks when they're coming down towards the ground?

00:22:21.980 Well, that's the debate if they're true hypersonic missiles,

00:22:24.060 but I think they're reaching hypersonic speeds towards the end.

00:22:27.440 Because it's amazing.

00:22:28.580 They seem to be coming in like everything else, and then all of a sudden,

00:22:31.340 whoop, doom.

00:22:32.060 Yeah.

00:22:32.880 It's crazy.

00:22:34.080 War, I mean, if this is what Iran can do. 1.00

00:22:36.820 Oh, Glenn.

00:22:37.640 War is going to be so just horrifying.

00:22:41.020 Changing rapidly, and I fear we're not ready for it.

00:22:46.640 We might not be, but I will tell you, I mean, at least, you know,

00:22:51.120 this is one thing that I know about Donald Trump, and I've said it a million times,

00:22:54.160 and I think it's worth really understanding the gravity of this.

00:22:58.580 He has talked to me several times, and he has talked to me about nuclear war,

00:23:04.840 and he rebuilt our missile and all of our nuclear deterrence,

00:23:09.740 and he is terrified of it.

00:23:12.680 Yeah.

00:23:13.100 He's like, I rebuilt it, so we are the strongest in the world.

00:23:16.140 He's like, Glenn, if we ever launch any of this stuff,

00:23:19.560 if we ever have to do anything, he said the whole thing is over.

00:23:22.980 It is a nightmare that no one can comprehend.

00:23:27.620 Yeah, it's scary, but nothing can really mess with my mood right now,

00:23:31.320 because yesterday I saw on radio the most gangster move ever by a broadcaster

00:23:35.820 as you were reading your live read and slowly loaded your 9mm pistol and put it.

00:23:43.240 It didn't even break any kind of context.

00:23:45.740 It just kept going.

00:23:46.620 It was amazing.

00:23:47.860 What show did I miss?

00:23:50.060 Nothing can bring me down now.

00:23:51.320 You missed a show yesterday.

00:23:52.820 I was in a mood, and nobody knew until just now I was also loading all of my pistols

00:23:58.620 at the same time.

00:24:00.780 Yeah, I can multitask.

00:24:02.360 I can do it.

00:24:03.020 I can do it.

00:24:03.600 All right, Jason, thank you so much.

00:24:04.920 Good to have you back, Stu.

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00:25:37.960 You know, it's been a crazy, crazy week, Stu.

00:25:57.460 You've really missed out on some great arguments, really.

00:26:03.860 Really?

00:26:04.160 People just ripping each other apart.

00:26:07.720 Friends ripping friends apart.

00:26:10.420 And I've never seen anything like it on our side, and it's got to stop.

00:26:16.260 It really has to stop.

00:26:17.520 You were on vacation, so you usually don't pay much attention.

00:26:20.020 Did you see any of this, or did you miss it all?

00:26:22.120 I felt like, first of all, an incredibly well-timed vacation.

00:26:25.320 I can't even describe how good I felt about the timing of that.

00:26:29.840 But yes, I did follow it a little bit.

00:26:32.080 I saw a lot of the back and forth.

00:26:34.200 I don't know how you feel about it, Glenn.

00:26:36.020 It just seems to me to be the opposite of productive.

00:26:41.180 I just don't get it at all.

00:26:43.340 I don't get it at all.

00:26:43.920 No, and we all start turning on each other?

00:26:46.160 No, our enemies don't love that.

00:26:48.400 Right.

00:26:48.700 I mean, you couldn't be in Russia or China and Iran and do anything more helpful than

00:26:57.500 get all of us to start tearing each other apart on the same side.

00:27:01.440 Yeah, it's like, you know, as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, if the Eagles make a trade and

00:27:05.560 you're not sure how to feel about it, one way to decipher that is to see how Cowboys fans

00:27:10.600 react to it.

00:27:11.700 If they love the trade, you know it sucks for your side.

00:27:16.080 Right.

00:27:16.300 And that's kind of how I feel with this.

00:27:18.760 Like, you know, how does everybody on the left feel about this?

00:27:22.360 Are they, gosh, angry about it?

00:27:24.660 Or are they really excited that the right seems to be trying to set itself on fire?

00:27:29.160 I think they're excited about it.

00:27:30.740 So I would argue it's not the most productive activity.

00:27:34.400 Yeah, I had Sean Davis on yesterday from the Federalist, and he was just great.

00:27:39.940 He was great.

00:27:40.540 If you missed that in the podcast, make sure you get yesterday's podcast and listen to it.

00:27:44.740 Um, because we don't agree on everything, but tried to have a decent conversation.

00:27:49.640 And that is hard to do.

00:27:51.040 I mean, I didn't necessarily have a decent conversation yesterday, uh, at the beginning

00:27:54.960 of the program, at the beginning of the program.

00:27:57.440 It was a little, a little shameful, a little shameful.

00:28:00.600 Wow.

00:28:01.480 Shameful?

00:28:01.920 Is that a little bit, a little bit.

00:28:03.820 And, uh, and I might say that when my producers brought up today, Glenn, you really have to

00:28:09.900 talk about our federal government selling off 3 million, uh, acres of land for affordable

00:28:16.660 housing.

00:28:17.100 I might've been a little shameful there as well.

00:28:19.640 I mean, I'm not a perfect guy.

00:28:21.220 I'm not a perfect guy.

00:28:22.400 And I'm going to try to not be shameful, uh, uh, you know, uh, in my response on the

00:28:29.280 federal land today.

00:28:31.040 Um, but I will tell you that might be beyond my abilities today.

00:28:34.940 I am so unbelievably tired of, uh, of hearing about how we're not going to be able to hunt

00:28:45.520 or fish because Mike Lee wants to sell, uh, 3 million acres of federal land.

00:28:53.380 Oh no, that really, Glenn?

00:28:54.860 I can't believe that.

00:28:55.780 Why would he want to do such a thing?

00:28:57.300 He doesn't like hunting and fishing?

00:28:59.500 Yeah.

00:28:59.880 Well, I, I do have the reasons, uh, and I'm going to, I, I'm going to get into that in

00:29:06.600 a little bit, uh, on the program.

00:29:08.420 Uh, because if, if I have to go into it right now, I need to really prepare it.

00:29:12.780 I, I, cause I, I may have vented for about 20 minutes in a very unproductive way in our,

00:29:19.260 uh, meeting today, um, because, uh, I live surrounded by federal land and oh my gosh,

00:29:25.980 they're such good stewards of land.

00:29:27.660 Oh, there's nobody better than the federal government.

00:29:30.040 No, when something's going wrong, I could just call Washington DC up and go, Hey, um,

00:29:35.440 this is really bad for the land.

00:29:38.040 And they're right on it.

00:29:39.160 They're right on it.

00:29:40.180 They're the best landlords ever.

00:29:42.780 Uh, but we'll, we'll get into that.

00:29:44.880 Meanwhile, uh, what be Goldberg had something interesting to say yesterday.

00:29:48.860 She was on the view and, um, that's a TV show, uh, TV.

00:29:54.940 That is a box that sometimes hangs on a wall and it's from a network, a network.

00:30:00.260 It's an old style thing where people used to tell people what to say in their TV shows,

00:30:07.600 unless you were on the left.

00:30:08.940 Anyway, uh, it's too much.

00:30:11.660 She's on this TV show and, uh, she was saying that she was saying that black people are treated

00:30:20.120 badly here in America.

00:30:21.240 Now listen to what, listen to what she says.

00:30:22.940 Just remember too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. 1.00

00:30:26.700 They don't adhere to basic human rights.

00:30:28.140 Listen, here's the thing.

00:30:29.260 Let's not, let's not do that.

00:30:31.080 Let's not do that.

00:30:32.120 Because if we start with that, we have, we have been known in this country to tie gay

00:30:37.920 folks to the car.

00:30:38.860 As official policy, they used to just keep hanging black people.

00:30:46.580 It is not even the same.

00:30:48.060 I couldn't step foot wearing this outfit.

00:30:49.320 Oh no, wait, wait, wait.

00:30:49.980 That's not what you mean to say.

00:30:51.480 It is the same.

00:30:52.560 No, it's not.

00:30:53.380 The year 2025 of the United States is nothing like if I step foot wearing this outfit in

00:30:57.540 Iran right now.

00:30:58.260 Listen, I'm sorry.

00:31:00.060 I can't have my hair showing.

00:31:02.480 I can't wear a skirt.

00:31:03.380 I can't have my arms out.

00:31:04.600 I'm telling you.

00:31:05.960 As a judge.

00:31:06.580 I literally said it was up to the Iranian people. 1.00

00:31:09.300 Yes, it is up to the Iranian people.

00:31:10.260 And that's why I am saying that it is the same.

00:31:15.720 Murdering someone for their difference is not good whoever does.

00:31:22.020 Wow.

00:31:22.960 What a stance.

00:31:25.080 What a stance.

00:31:25.680 She is so brave.

00:31:26.760 Oh my gosh.

00:31:27.400 And so, I mean, for a B or C grade actor in a forgotten movie system, she is really quite

00:31:38.020 bright, you know, when she's like, and we lynched people in America. 1.00

00:31:44.160 Yeah, a hundred years ago.

00:31:45.700 A hundred years ago that was happening.

00:31:47.980 And it was really, really bad.

00:31:50.180 I don't see the lynching happening.

00:31:51.680 And it was never condoned by the federal government, by the way.

00:31:56.200 That was something that was done.

00:31:58.820 Oh, go on.

00:31:59.760 Hold on.

00:32:00.280 Whoopi.

00:32:00.980 That was done by the Democrats who started the Klan. 0.94

00:32:06.080 You can't say that.

00:32:07.360 That's a hundred years ago.

00:32:08.780 Wait a minute.

00:32:09.220 You just brought up lynching from a hundred years ago.

00:32:13.220 So, I guess facts do matter.

00:32:16.060 And then, I mean, can you imagine, can you imagine if that, that bit were played in any

00:32:22.180 place in the Middle East where women are like under their burka thinking, I don't want to 1.00

00:32:28.940 live like this.

00:32:29.760 This is horrible.

00:32:30.600 And, oh, by the way, my, my husband can rape me anytime he wants.

00:32:38.780 You know, I was married when I was nine and you have somebody like Whoopi Goldberg going

00:32:44.680 on and going, that's just no worse than it is here in America.

00:32:48.900 Can you imagine the arrogance of that statement?

00:32:54.000 I mean, she's literally, again, I know we're mocking this show.

00:32:58.120 She's making millions of dollars. 1.00

00:33:00.440 She's a black woman making millions of dollars on television opposing the current president 1.00

00:33:07.100 of the United States.

00:33:08.440 Do you think there's a lot of examples in Iran of this sort of behavior?

00:33:12.420 Are there a lot of Jews that have giant television shows in downtown Tehran with their studios

00:33:20.920 making millions of dollars as they carry on the networks the programming that opposes the

00:33:28.400 Ayatollah?

00:33:29.500 Is there an equivalent?

00:33:31.300 It's so inherently stupid.

00:33:34.420 It's just amazing how dumb you can be and have a show like this.

00:33:38.600 And honestly, if we were in a, if we were in a just society, I would have arrested her 0.77

00:33:44.300 just for her stupid haircut. 1.00

00:33:49.440 I will say that's offensive, Glenn, but not as offensive as your claim that she might be

00:33:55.860 a B or C level actress.

00:33:58.740 No, that's way too kind.

00:34:01.940 I just try to give her the benefit of the doubt.

00:34:04.760 Can we focus on one other thing too that I think is interesting about this development?

00:34:08.600 The opposition in that clip comes from Melissa Farah, whatever her name is. 0.79

00:34:13.780 She was, and I think there's such a fascinating journey of this type of person who, you know,

00:34:20.780 was a complete unknown.

00:34:22.540 She was a, you know, a communications official in the Trump White House back in the day and

00:34:27.820 kind of turned into this like, oh, well, I'm notable now because I'm turning against Trump

00:34:32.980 after leaving, right?

00:34:34.000 And there's like a whole like genre of people who have, who've gone through this process

00:34:38.240 and whatever.

00:34:39.240 It seems to be very rewarding for them when it comes to their media careers.

00:34:44.200 And they do very, very well.

00:34:46.220 And they make lots of money.

00:34:47.800 And there's absolutely no way that without turning on Donald Trump and becoming this anti-Trump

00:34:55.440 figure that she would have this job. 0.61

00:34:56.920 There's zero chance of it, right?

00:34:58.360 Like zero, she's an absolute no one.

00:35:01.600 No one had ever heard of her.

00:35:02.860 Like she was a no one, but she became famous because of this one thing.

00:35:06.760 And there's this interesting thing that happens because you assume the fact that she at one

00:35:10.580 point did serve, you know, under in the Trump administration, that she had some familiarity

00:35:15.840 with, I don't know, the right side of an argument or the conservative side of the argument

00:35:21.000 or like just the fact that Iran is a danger or whatever.

00:35:23.660 She was, you know, involved in defense and then she's forced to go on here and do this 0.99

00:35:28.280 show where every day her job is to say, basically, look, I served in the Trump administration.

00:35:34.860 I, I, I obviously not a liberal, but I can't believe what they're doing.

00:35:39.160 It's so bad.

00:35:39.840 Like that's her job.

00:35:41.060 And then something like this happens that is so overtly wrong.

00:35:47.080 That something that she obviously knows is a lie and she has to make that decision on

00:35:54.020 like, do I go with the truth here or do I do this thing that I've been doing, right?

00:36:00.140 Like, and it's gotta be perplexing to make these decisions because at some point there

00:36:07.200 is a level where you just inherently can't say the words to go along with the party line

00:36:12.840 that you're supposed to take these days.

00:36:14.160 And this is one of those instances where like, no, it's obviously not as bad for black 1.00

00:36:21.160 people in America today as it is for gay people in, in Iran.

00:36:25.700 Like, it's just so overtly false that you can't even stop yourself.

00:36:30.800 And I find it interesting where they kind of find that line.

00:36:33.760 How dare you say that?

00:36:34.720 Do we try to give black people the opportunity to learn how to fly by throwing them off of buildings? 1.00

00:36:42.000 No, we don't.

00:36:43.480 I mean, look at what the good Iranians are doing.

00:36:46.100 They're like, I think these gays can fly. 1.00

00:36:49.440 And one of them will be able to do it.

00:36:51.800 And then once one of them does it, they'll all be able to spread their wings and fly, baby, fly.

00:36:57.240 That's true.

00:36:57.660 That's all they're doing, Stu.

00:36:59.080 That's all they're doing.

00:37:00.240 I had taken that as a negative.

00:37:01.500 America, we don't give black people or gays the chance to fly. 1.00

00:37:06.780 I guess they just believe in them so much.

00:37:11.100 They're so much better than us.

00:37:13.020 They can fly.

00:37:15.040 That's what the Koran is actually saying.

00:37:18.040 Give them a chance to fly.

00:37:20.120 All right.

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00:40:30.160 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:40:36.180 It's Thursday, which means tomorrow is Friday, thank God.

00:40:40.080 And Stu is back with us.

00:40:41.160 Hi, Stu.

00:40:41.760 Hey, Glenn.

00:40:42.220 Do you follow the Adriana Smith story in Georgia over the past?

00:40:46.960 I can't hear Stu.

00:40:48.020 You're feeding me his microphone.

00:40:49.680 I'll go through the story here as we're waiting for Glenn's technical issues to be sorted out.

00:40:54.180 But Adriana Smith, she was a woman in Georgia, and she became brain dead, which is, of course, an awful outcome.

00:41:02.340 She was pregnant at the time.

00:41:04.140 And there was a big controversy that kind of built up over this period where she had – the left seemed to be cheering for the baby to also die.

00:41:15.900 The claim was basically the hospital was keeping her alive on life support as she was going through this pregnancy.

00:41:23.800 She had basically no hope, unfortunately, of surviving.

00:41:27.380 But the question was whether they would keep her alive on life support so that the baby could be born.

00:41:33.540 Which is what you usually do.

00:41:35.420 I would think so, right?

00:41:37.140 Yes.

00:41:37.360 The claim was there was a worry by the hospital that they thought the Georgia abortion law made it so they had to do this.

00:41:45.340 This was required.

00:41:47.040 Now, that is at the very least seemingly a misreading of the law.

00:41:50.800 I don't think it does require that.

00:41:52.900 But the family at the beginning seemed to be, like, just horrified that they would force this woman to just be this empty vessel just to create this child.

00:42:05.580 And the left, like, embraced this sort of handmaid's tale narrative where, like, oh, we just heard now have – you know, women are just baby machines, baby factories that are just churning out these kids. 0.99

00:42:18.120 And that's – and it's like – this is – by the way, the baby was now – was born by cesarean.

00:42:24.140 This is the end of the story.

00:42:25.440 Born by cesarean.

00:42:26.420 Looks like it's going to survive.

00:42:28.900 She was taken off of life support after this happened.

00:42:34.220 But is there any other way for a rational society to look at this other than a miracle?

00:42:42.000 This – in every other part of our entire world history, this baby would have just died along with his mother.

00:42:51.900 And now we have a situation where this baby has been born and has a chance at life.

00:42:58.340 And has a carbon footprint.

00:42:59.980 And has a carbon –

00:43:00.700 Yes, damn straight, a wonderful carbon footprint that will be absolutely worth it.

00:43:06.700 Like, the fact that this child gets a chance at life should be something that we're all cheering for.

00:43:11.580 An incredible development that has only very recently been possible.

00:43:16.780 And instead, it is this thing where, like, the left is saying, like, one death, we wanted two.

00:43:22.320 It just – I just can't understand the world sometimes.

00:43:25.480 Wow.

00:43:26.220 Yeah.

00:43:26.580 I mean, listen to you.

00:43:27.860 Yesterday, yesterday, the Supreme Court, you know, after they said, oh, you can't kill your children, now they come out and say, you can't mutilate them either.

00:43:37.500 They didn't say either of those things, unfortunately.

00:43:38.640 And you're jumping on the bandwagon.

00:43:40.640 They didn't say you can't kill your children, unfortunately.

00:43:44.220 And they also didn't say you can't mutilate them either.

00:43:48.200 They just had slight allowances for state laws to dictate some of those policies.

00:43:55.320 That's unbelievable.

00:43:56.500 So, yes, I support those rulings.

00:43:57.860 It's amazing.

00:43:58.800 No killing kids.

00:43:59.900 No cutting them.

00:44:00.940 No, you just got to travel.

00:44:02.300 No turning them into –

00:44:03.680 You got to travel.

00:44:04.840 She-men. 1.00

00:44:05.700 This is – what are we coming to?

00:44:08.560 And then forcing a woman in a coma to carry the child to – because she really cares. 0.99

00:44:16.200 She really cares.

00:44:18.700 Carrying that child to term.

00:44:21.500 We're monsters.

00:44:23.460 You know, they have it better in Iran, I'll tell you that right now. 0.99

00:44:32.800 This is Glenn Beck.

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00:47:02.340 Well, the Supreme Court has come out with something that was so surprising to me that it was a 6-3 decision.

00:47:08.700 It really doesn't.

00:47:09.560 Hey, can I just cut body parts off of this child? 1.00

00:47:16.380 Is that okay?

00:47:18.260 Apparently there are three on the Supreme Court that thought, yeah, that's fine.

00:47:22.180 But it was a very weird decision, I thought.

00:47:26.600 But Alan Dershowitz is here to tell us about that and so much more.

00:47:30.240 He's also the author of a book called The Preventative State, which is so important.

00:47:35.060 I want to have him back on to talk about this because we are headed towards a state that is going to make decisions for us to prevent any kind of trouble.

00:47:47.700 But like the Patriot Act, that is going to turn around and bite us in the ass.

00:47:52.260 We'll talk to him about that probably on another broadcast.

00:47:56.240 But Alan Dershowitz joins us in 60 seconds.

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00:49:07.540 Alan Dershowitz, my friend, how are you?

00:49:09.980 I'm doing great.

00:49:11.020 How about you?

00:49:12.680 It has been a really confusing week.

00:49:15.220 I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves.

00:49:20.820 And I'm pointing out that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place. 0.65

00:49:28.400 And then I see the Supreme Court comes out and their three justices are like, I don't know.

00:49:33.880 I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun or enlist in the military.

00:49:41.940 It's insane.

00:49:44.100 It is insane, especially since, you know, the radical left says that a 17-and-a-half-year-old can't consent to have voluntary sex with their boyfriend.

00:49:55.720 That would be sexist and that would be horrible.

00:49:57.960 But they can consent to have an abortion and they can consent to have radical surgery that can't be reversed.

00:50:06.600 By the way, the decision is like six to two-and-a-half.

00:50:10.660 Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. 0.99

00:50:21.140 She got involved in whether or not you need super-duper scrutiny or just super-scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

00:50:30.460 But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny the state could do that.

00:50:37.160 So definitely two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

00:50:43.300 Okay.

00:50:43.620 Can you break this argument down and why it should have been unanimous?

00:50:49.840 Oh, it should have been unanimous.

00:50:51.020 There's no question.

00:50:52.400 States under the Constitution have the authority to decide medical issues.

00:50:57.500 States decide a whole range of medical issues.

00:51:00.780 I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney to be given to another twin.

00:51:12.020 And, you know, that case went all the way through the course.

00:51:14.000 The federal government never got involved in that.

00:51:16.140 That was up to the state of Massachusetts.

00:51:17.660 And, you know, they made an interesting decision.

00:51:20.860 And some states go the other way.

00:51:22.520 Half the countries of Europe go one way on this.

00:51:24.920 Half the countries of Europe go the other way.

00:51:27.020 And Justice Brandeis once said that states are the laboratories of constitutional experimentation.

00:51:32.340 They have the right to do things their own way.

00:51:34.640 And then we'll see over time.

00:51:36.060 Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

00:51:45.600 The New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday by the mother of a transgender person. 0.97

00:51:51.800 And it never mentioned, you do the arithmetic, that the person was now 18 years old.

00:51:58.880 And the decision doesn't apply to anyone who's 18.

00:52:01.620 If you're, you know, just wait.

00:52:02.980 Don't make irreversible decisions when you're 12 years old or 13 years old.

00:52:08.400 Because we know the statistics show that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible surgical decisions, particularly.

00:52:17.320 Yeah.

00:52:18.580 So why is it just that the state, why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

00:52:25.320 Well, you know, that's the question, whether or not if a state says you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution.

00:52:34.940 I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway in deciding what's best for people.

00:52:41.940 You leave it to the public.

00:52:44.000 And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting, I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision.

00:52:53.660 But if a state wants to do it and if a country in Europe wants to do it, all right.

00:52:58.540 But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor who can't, you know, isn't old enough to consent to a contract or to have sex, 0.51

00:53:08.900 is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever and they will come to regret is absurd.

00:53:16.240 So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas, but he took on the so-called experts and really kind of took them to the woodshed.

00:53:28.680 What were your thoughts on that?

00:53:31.040 Well, I agree with that.

00:53:32.360 I've devoted my whole life to challenging experts.

00:53:34.960 That's what I do in court.

00:53:35.980 I challenge experts all the time.

00:53:39.160 Most of the major cases that I've won have been cases where the experts went one way and we were persuading them that persuaded a jury or a judge that the expert is not really an expert.

00:53:51.380 Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

00:53:55.060 And so I'm glad that expertise is being challenged by judges.

00:54:01.200 And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts.

00:54:05.160 That's the world we live in.

00:54:06.540 Everybody challenges everybody else.

00:54:08.000 As long as we're all of us allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

00:54:14.780 Democracy doesn't require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems.

00:54:22.300 We can have multiple answers.

00:54:23.840 We're not a dictatorship.

00:54:25.320 We're not North Korea or Iran where the Ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think.

00:54:31.320 We can think for ourselves and we can act for ourselves within limits.

00:54:34.880 You know, it's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

00:54:38.700 I was dead set against Obamacare, but I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts.

00:54:44.420 If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it.

00:54:47.820 Try it.

00:54:48.460 And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

00:54:52.400 But the problem is some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work.

00:54:57.260 And so they want to rope the federal government into it because the federal government can just print money, you know.

00:55:03.780 And, you know, any state wants to do anything.

00:55:06.360 But, for instance, I have a real hard time with California right now because I have a feeling, you know, when they fail, we're going to be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

00:55:15.600 Why should I pay for it in Texas when I know that wouldn't work?

00:55:22.340 And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't because I know that's not going to work.

00:55:26.320 Yeah, but, you know, conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

00:55:31.540 Take guns, for example.

00:55:34.000 The same Justice Thomas says that a state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in Times Square or in schools.

00:55:46.300 That there has to be a national openness to guns because of the Second Amendment.

00:55:50.940 And, you know, you can argue reasonably what the Second Amendment means, but, you know, conservatives, many conservatives take the view that there has to be a single standard for guns, and states can't vary in their decisions how to control guns.

00:56:07.960 I'm in favor of letting the states make those decisions.

00:56:10.460 Doesn't that just take what the Bill of Rights is about and turns it up outside the head?

00:56:21.460 I mean, it says, you know, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights, but they cannot, the federal government cannot get involved in any of these things, and these are rights that are enshrined.

00:56:36.700 So, I mean, because you could say that, but, you know, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution, not in the Bill of Rights.

00:56:45.660 There's a big difference, of course.

00:56:47.120 The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

00:56:50.540 The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment, which says essentially a well-regulated, well-regulated militia.

00:57:02.020 Whether that applies to private ownership as well, whether it can be well-regulated by states.

00:57:08.660 Look, these are interesting debates, and the Supreme Court, you know, decides these, but all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way influenced by ideology.

00:57:20.880 The words of the Constitution don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God giving orders from on high.

00:57:28.720 They're often written in ambiguous terms, even the Ten Commandments.

00:57:32.880 You know, it says, thou shalt not murder, and it's been interpreted by some to say thou shalt not kill.

00:57:40.740 The Hebrew is lo tirtzach. 0.79

00:57:43.400 Tirtzach is the Hebrew word for murder, not kill.

00:57:46.440 And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies.

00:57:50.880 If they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

00:57:55.680 So, you know, every single, human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity about complex issues.

00:58:03.940 That's why we need institutions to interpret them.

00:58:06.740 But the institution should be fair.

00:58:08.840 And the Supreme Court sometimes has taken over too much authority and too much power.

00:58:12.920 I have an article today on GateStone, which starts with a quote from the Book of Ruth.

00:58:19.120 And it says, when judges ruled the land, there was famine.

00:58:24.460 And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule going back to biblical times.

00:58:29.680 Judges are supposed to judge.

00:58:31.840 People who are elected or appointed appropriately are the ones who are supposed to rule.

00:58:37.720 Quickly, two other topics, and I know you have to go.

00:58:40.520 So if I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

00:58:42.920 The Democrats that are being handcuffed and throwing themselves into situations,

00:58:49.720 do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

00:58:55.260 Of course it's a publicity stunt.

00:58:57.180 And they would admit it, you know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock at night in the bar,

00:59:01.560 and they'll tell you that they're doing this deliberately to get attention.

00:59:05.200 Of course, a guy who was running behind in the mayor race in New York goes and gets himself arrested.

00:59:11.460 And now he's on every New York television station and probably will move himself up in the polls.

00:59:17.380 So, no, I don't believe in that.

00:59:22.260 And I don't believe we should take it seriously.

00:59:25.060 Last question.

00:59:26.980 I am proudly for Israel, but I'm also for America.

00:59:32.980 And I am really tired of foreign wars.

00:59:35.860 And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

00:59:39.520 I don't think that you can...

00:59:40.620 Of course.

00:59:40.780 You don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves,

00:59:45.240 and then that makes me a warmonger.

00:59:47.600 I am also very concerned about Iran and have been for a very long time because they're 12ers. 1.00

00:59:53.720 They're Shia 12ers that want to wash the world in blood to hasten the return of the promised one. 1.00

00:59:58.420 And so when they have a nuclear weapon, it's a whole different story.

01:00:02.300 No, I agree with you.

01:00:03.520 And I think Tucker Carlson is absolutely wrong when he says you have to choose between being America first

01:00:09.400 or supporting Israel.

01:00:11.120 Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran is being America first, is supporting America. 0.89

01:00:16.680 Israel has been doing all the hard work.

01:00:18.480 It's been the one who's lost its civilians and, fortunately, none of its pilots yet. 0.91

01:00:25.400 But America and Israel work together for the interests of both countries.

01:00:29.560 So I'm a big supporter of the United States, a patriot, and I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time

01:00:37.780 because they work together in tandem.

01:00:39.400 To bring about Western values.

01:00:44.180 Should we drop a bomb?

01:00:46.560 Yes.

01:00:47.420 Should our plane drop the bomb?

01:00:49.560 Yes, we should.

01:00:50.980 And without killing civilians, it can be done.

01:00:53.920 It probably needs four bombs, not one bomb.

01:00:56.580 First one bomb to open up the mountain, then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

01:01:01.620 And in my book, The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable.

01:01:06.860 And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. 0.78

01:01:14.580 If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s,

01:01:19.940 instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives.

01:01:24.480 And so sometimes you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

01:01:28.360 When is the preventative state out, Helen?

01:01:31.820 Just now.

01:01:32.740 Just now.

01:01:33.360 Just now.

01:01:33.880 And it's done very well on Amazon.

01:01:35.680 New York Times refuses to review it because I defended Donald Trump.

01:01:38.840 And the Harvard Club canceled my appearance talking about the book because I haven't been defending Harvard.

01:01:46.960 I have been defending President Trump's attack.

01:01:49.500 By the way, I have a new book coming out soon called Trump to Harvard.

01:01:53.960 Go fund yourself.

01:01:56.880 Let's stay on this one.

01:01:58.380 I'd love to have you on back next week to talk about the preventative state, if you will.

01:02:03.220 Of course.

01:02:04.100 Thank you, Alan.

01:02:04.620 I appreciate it.

01:02:05.080 Thank you so much.

01:02:05.760 You bet.

01:02:06.040 Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School professor emeritus, host of The Dershow, and the author of the new book.

01:02:12.300 It's out now, The Preventative State.

01:02:13.780 I think that is a really important topic because we are traveling down the roads where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in.

01:02:26.500 And it's all for your own good and all for your own protection.

01:02:31.040 Beware.

01:02:31.960 Beware.

01:02:32.680 We'll talk about that next week with Alan Dershowitz.

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01:04:23.600 You know, I don't know if you remember, if you saw the Batman movie,

01:04:28.880 with Anne Hathaway in it.

01:04:31.740 She played Catwoman.

01:04:33.180 It was the one with Bane.

01:04:35.720 And she has to go and steal some stuff from Bruce Wayne's house,

01:04:39.580 and then she's bringing it to this really, really bad guy.

01:04:41.960 And he seems like a really bad guy.

01:04:44.360 And he's lying to her.

01:04:45.920 And she finds out, and she's like, oh my gosh, this is horrible.

01:04:48.300 And look what they're doing.

01:04:49.140 They're trying to collapse, you know, the economy and everything else.

01:04:52.540 And you think it's really bad, and she escapes the bad guy.

01:04:56.800 And then the real bad guy comes in.

01:05:00.180 Now, the bad guy that Anne Hathaway was dealing with, I think, was a politician.

01:05:04.580 I'm not sure, but I think he was a politician.

01:05:07.080 And Bane had been released from this dark hole of a prison by this politician and used to create disruption.

01:05:16.000 But Bane had his own agenda.

01:05:19.100 And as Anne Hathaway escapes, Bane comes in, and this politician starts saying,

01:05:24.040 what are you doing?

01:05:24.700 I told you to do this, and you didn't do it.

01:05:26.740 And Bane grabs him by the throat and kills him.

01:05:29.260 That's when you realize, oh, there's a new style of bad guy in Gotham.

01:05:35.020 Last night on my TV program, and you'll be able to watch it today on YouTube at youtube.com slash Glenn,

01:05:42.920 I make the case that we are entering our Gotham times, and we better recognize this.

01:05:49.680 You know, when they start shooting the politicians that won't do what the left says,

01:05:54.500 and that's exactly what happened last weekend, and I don't think anybody's talking about it enough.

01:05:59.480 This woman, she sides with the Republicans. 0.99

01:06:02.840 It kills her. You can see, and you can see that she's afraid.

01:06:06.660 But she did it anyway because she felt it was the right thing to do.

01:06:10.240 That's why she was shot this weekend.

01:06:12.620 And she was shot by a Gotham-style villain.

01:06:17.560 You know, you politicians think you have them under control.

01:06:20.440 The Chuck Schumers and Nancy Pelosi.

01:06:22.000 I told you this when you put Michael Moore in the box with who was the president that they were running.

01:06:28.940 Was it Obama?

01:06:30.620 And they put him in the presidential box.

01:06:32.480 And I said, you can't cozy up to leftists and communists.

01:06:35.860 You can't do it.

01:06:36.900 And now they're in bed with the banes of the world.

01:06:39.580 And they thought they could control them.

01:06:41.040 They thought they could whip them up into a frenzy and then control them.

01:06:44.060 You're not going to be able to.

01:06:47.000 The other side of that is what we're facing now with radicalized Islam. 0.94

01:06:54.180 Look, it is a matter of time before Europe falls.

01:06:58.800 It's just a matter of time.

01:07:00.360 They are not doing the right thing.

01:07:01.960 Their politicians think they can control these radicals.

01:07:05.400 And I believe it's only a matter of time.

01:07:08.280 And what we are facing now is the very beginning outlines of a final battle.

01:07:13.680 And I think we're in a 50-year war with Islam unless Jesus comes. 1.00

01:07:19.060 And that might be it.

01:07:20.720 But the one thing America cannot do is be Gotham and fight radicalized Islam should it continue down its path. 1.00

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01:09:00.280 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program from the Standing Rock Ranch in the Mountain West.

01:09:20.280 Glad you're here.

01:09:22.460 I don't know, Stu, if you saw the Ayatollah's message yesterday, but it wasn't a happy message.

01:09:27.320 No?

01:09:27.520 Can we play the Ayatollah's message?

01:09:30.400 I'll translate, because I speak Farsi, of course.

01:09:34.300 He says, the Iranian nation will stand firmly against the war imposed on it.

01:09:41.200 That's fine.

01:09:42.360 As it has done so far, it will also take a stand firmly against imposed peace.

01:09:48.460 The Iranian nation will not surrender to anyone aiming to impose.

01:09:53.080 Telling the Iranian nation to surrender is not a wise thing to say.

01:09:58.320 Wise people who know the region, the Iranian people and its history, would never say that.

01:10:03.580 To whom shall we surrender?

01:10:05.940 Iran is not a nation to surrender.

01:10:08.700 And America getting involved in this would be 100% to its detriment.

01:10:12.680 And the damage it would suffer would be so much more than what Iran would possibly suffer. 0.99

01:10:20.600 Oh.

01:10:20.860 So, how does that make your Wednesday or your Thursday, Stu?

01:10:26.480 Feeling pretty good about that?

01:10:27.460 Yeah, it sounds...

01:10:28.820 Yeah.

01:10:29.520 I'm encouraged, as usual, by any word from the Ayatollah, Glenn.

01:10:34.140 I mean, I don't know.

01:10:34.960 I do have his calendar or his daily meditation book.

01:10:38.280 I just keep it by my bedside.

01:10:40.080 And I'm like, you know, death to Israel. 0.99

01:10:41.780 And I'm like, ah, he said that last Tuesday.

01:10:44.020 I need something better than that.

01:10:45.360 Yeah, the piece of inspiration per day calendar that you rip off the pages, they mostly do say things that are just very similar to death to Israel or death to the United States.

01:10:56.920 Yeah.

01:10:57.220 It's not as inspiring as you might think it might be.

01:10:59.820 Hey, can I go to a flashback, flashback, flashback to 2018?

01:11:04.200 Here's the Saudi crown prince on Iran and nukes.

01:11:09.260 Listen to this.

01:11:10.560 You've been rivals for centuries.

01:11:12.700 At its heart, what is this rift about?

01:11:15.360 Is it a battle for Islam?

01:11:17.640 Iran is not a rival to Saudi Arabia.

01:11:21.340 Its army is not among the top five armies in the Muslim world.

01:11:24.920 The Saudi economy is larger than the Iranian economy.

01:11:28.320 Iran is far from being equal to Saudi Arabia. 0.86

01:11:31.220 But I've seen that you called the Ayatollah, Khameneid, the new Hitler of the Middle East.

01:11:37.400 Absolutely.

01:11:38.580 Why?

01:11:40.920 Because he wants to expand.

01:11:43.040 He wants to create his own project in the Middle East.

01:11:45.360 It's very much like Hitler, who wanted to expand at the time. 0.90

01:11:48.460 Many countries around the world and in Europe did not realize how dangerous Hitler was until what happened, happened. 0.77

01:11:54.620 I don't want to see the same events happening in the Middle East.

01:11:57.580 Does Saudi Arabia need nuclear weapons to counter Iran?

01:12:01.140 Saudi Arabia does not want to acquire any nuclear bomb.

01:12:05.400 But without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we will follow suit as soon as possible. 0.99

01:12:11.440 Ah, that's great.

01:12:12.980 Don't you love that?

01:12:14.280 Nuclear proliferation.

01:12:16.440 You know, and especially in the Middle East, I want everybody to have a nuclear bomb. 1.00

01:12:21.320 I mean, everybody should have one just under their burqa. 0.96

01:12:24.720 I mean, I think it would be really, really safe for, you know, the whole world.

01:12:29.500 My question is, when do we get to a point to where we're like, you know, I'm not sure England should have the nuclear bombs anymore.

01:12:39.760 I mean, you know, I think by 2035, we're going to be having that conversation, you know, if Jesus isn't around.

01:12:47.880 But by 2035, don't you see us having that conversation, Stu?

01:12:51.620 I mean, they have been infiltrated by radical Islam.

01:12:55.940 They're marching in the streets.

01:12:57.580 The people, I mean, look at Ireland.

01:12:59.700 They're not in control anymore.

01:13:01.620 They're not in control.

01:13:03.280 Look at Sweden.

01:13:04.580 Is it Sweden or Norway or one of those countries I can never tell the difference between?

01:13:08.040 I mean, it was like, we don't have, the prime minister, we don't have control of our streets anymore.

01:13:13.320 This is not going to last.

01:13:15.460 You know, when you have 30% immigration and it's mainly from, you know, Islamic countries,

01:13:23.980 I mean, unless they want to melt into yours, which doesn't seem like their intent, you're in trouble.

01:13:30.160 You're in real trouble.

01:13:31.120 Some of them do want to set things on fire, though.

01:13:34.940 That indicates melting is a possibility.

01:13:38.040 If you look at it the positive way, with a positive spin, you know, you get a better picture, Glenn.

01:13:42.700 It's just you're always taking the negative spin on an issue.

01:13:47.760 All right.

01:13:48.300 Well, meanwhile, Trump was asked by a reporter, you know, the obvious question.

01:13:54.520 Are we moving closer to getting involved in striking the nuclear facilities?

01:13:59.280 Here's Trump's response.

01:14:00.420 Cut five.

01:14:00.980 Have you been to answer questions about whether you are moving closer or you believe the U.S.

01:14:07.420 is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities?

01:14:10.920 Where's your mindset on that?

01:14:12.120 I can't say that, right?

01:14:13.380 You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question.

01:14:16.220 Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?

01:14:19.140 And what time exactly, sir?

01:14:22.040 Sir, would you strike it?

01:14:23.760 Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch?

01:14:26.680 I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it.

01:14:28.860 You don't know.

01:14:29.500 I may do it.

01:14:30.100 I may not do it.

01:14:31.000 I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.

01:14:32.400 Listen to that.

01:14:33.460 Listen to that.

01:14:34.260 What a great negotiator.

01:14:35.460 I love the construction workers in the background just laughing.

01:14:40.440 They're just like laughing.

01:14:41.820 The average person's like, yeah, what a dumb question that is.

01:14:45.140 I mean, obviously, I guess journalists have to ask it.

01:14:47.820 I guess they have to ask that.

01:14:48.800 Yeah, I get it.

01:14:49.480 I get it.

01:14:50.100 But still, and you know, I will say there are times with Trump when you ask a question like

01:14:54.560 that and he just blurts it out.

01:14:55.720 I mean, it's probably worth it ask from the journalist's perspective.

01:14:59.700 But you know, I don't think he blurts out as much as he used to.

01:15:02.700 I really don't.

01:15:03.340 I think he is so strategic right now.

01:15:06.200 Well, I think sometimes the blurting out is strategic, though.

01:15:08.640 I think at times he wants a particular thing to be considered.

01:15:13.140 It's almost an over-to-window situation.

01:15:16.020 And he will blurt out something that has, wait a minute, what?

01:15:19.480 I mean, you know, what did he say about, again, I have been on vacation, so I may have missed

01:15:24.340 all the context of this.

01:15:25.320 Forgive me if that's the case.

01:15:26.340 But what did he say about Tulsi Gabbard when they were talking about the Iran issue?

01:15:30.320 You know, she had said something about how.

01:15:31.900 I don't care what she says.

01:15:32.780 Yeah, I don't care what she says.

01:15:33.800 Like, you wouldn't expect the president of the United States to just say, like, yeah,

01:15:37.460 I don't care what she says.

01:15:39.040 You wouldn't expect that.

01:15:40.420 But, like, sometimes Trump will say that.

01:15:42.520 And, like, he's maybe communicating a message.

01:15:45.000 Maybe he's saying, look, you know, that's, you know, don't try to bother me with these,

01:15:50.260 you know, these internal fights.

01:15:53.420 I don't know what he's saying in that moment.

01:15:54.920 But, like, he does occasionally reveal things that you wouldn't expect him to reveal in

01:16:00.000 a moment like that.

01:16:00.840 But generally speaking, it is just a bizarre thing to expect a president to answer.

01:16:04.620 I don't take it as I don't care what Tulsi says.

01:16:06.940 I think he has respect for Tulsi.

01:16:08.740 I think he has heard her opinion.

01:16:10.960 And I don't care.

01:16:12.900 Right.

01:16:13.160 I got it.

01:16:13.680 I got her.

01:16:14.520 You know, I don't care now.

01:16:15.880 You know, I've heard the opinion.

01:16:17.780 I've dismissed it or whatever.

01:16:19.260 I've taken it into consideration.

01:16:20.520 And I don't care anymore.

01:16:21.780 I'm my own man.

01:16:22.820 I'm going to make the decision.

01:16:23.900 I think that's what he is saying there.

01:16:24.920 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:16:25.580 But that's a notable thing for a president to express.

01:16:29.060 Oh, yeah, it is.

01:16:29.460 You know, and I think that is where he is.

01:16:32.260 He is, you know, that team of rivals concept, right?

01:16:36.460 That doesn't mean that you, I will continue to hear the same opinion from the same person

01:16:42.380 over and over again that I disagree with, right?

01:16:44.060 Like, you hear it and you make a decision on it.

01:16:45.960 And I think that's what he was expressing there.

01:16:50.060 By the way, did you see that abomination of a flag?

01:16:54.980 I mean, I love the fact that he's doing this.

01:16:57.320 Partly because, you know, if you've ever been to Mar-a-Lago, he put this enormous flag up.

01:17:04.360 And it is stunning.

01:17:06.080 It is really, really beautiful.

01:17:09.080 But he just put a much bigger flag up.

01:17:13.100 He has a 60-foot pole.

01:17:16.180 Is it a 60-foot pole?

01:17:17.480 Guys, we just looked this up.

01:17:19.000 I think a 60-foot pole and an 18-by-25-foot flag.

01:17:24.680 Because Wes Palm was like, you can't put a 30-foot flag up.

01:17:28.580 And he did.

01:17:29.340 And he did.

01:17:29.980 And they didn't like it.

01:17:30.700 Now he's put up an, they say it's a 100-foot pole, but it's an 88-foot pole.

01:17:36.020 Not one, but two.

01:17:37.540 One in front and one behind the White House.

01:17:40.260 And that is an enormous, it's almost like a Texas car showroom flag.

01:17:47.800 You know, in Texas, they have these enormous flags that just are, and he almost did that.

01:17:53.400 And part of it is because it's beautiful.

01:17:55.240 The other part is, I think it's a troll.

01:17:57.160 I think he's just like, that's going to drive them out of their mind.

01:18:00.560 I'm not going to put one just in the front.

01:18:02.480 I'm going to put one in the back, too.

01:18:05.060 And, you know, what president is going to take it down?

01:18:07.740 Nobody has ever done this.

01:18:09.420 Nobody's ever done this.

01:18:10.640 He, you know, when we went through the White House, one of the things he told me was that they were going to build the ballroom.

01:18:18.540 And he told me, you know, Glenn, the White House doesn't have a ballroom.

01:18:24.800 He talked to me about, the other thing he's getting hammered on is, there's this picture of me.

01:18:29.200 I should post this.

01:18:30.380 There's a picture of the president and I.

01:18:32.260 We're back in behind the Oval Office, and we're looking at the Rose Garden.

01:18:36.480 And I said, this really pisses me off about Melania, because I know all she did was restore the Rose Garden exactly to the plans of Jackie O.

01:18:47.160 And they tore her apart.

01:18:49.320 Oh, she's destroyed the Rose Garden. 0.98

01:18:51.560 Jackie O would be so upset.

01:18:54.220 She took Jackie O's plans and just recreated it.

01:18:59.320 She didn't add anything new.

01:19:00.520 She just restored what Jackie O had put.

01:19:03.580 And everybody ripped her apart.

01:19:05.000 And I was talking to him about it, and he said, you know what they're really going to go crazy on?

01:19:08.460 I'm going to pave the whole thing.

01:19:10.240 And I said, wait, what?

01:19:12.440 And this picture of the two of us, he's pointing, or I'm pointing, I can't remember, but we're both telling stories about history.

01:19:19.580 And he's like, look, here's the problem.

01:19:22.040 This is where we have press conferences.

01:19:23.880 This is where we have people when we have meetings with foreign leaders and everything else.

01:19:30.140 And he said, if it rains at all, he said, everybody just sinks into mud, and it becomes this giant mud hole.

01:19:37.200 So I'm just going to pave it over and just take this square.

01:19:40.680 And I said, oh, my gosh, Mr. President, when you announce that, it is going to drive them out of their mind.

01:19:47.500 And he just smiled.

01:19:48.520 And then we turned away, and then he talked about what he's putting up.

01:19:55.100 He's putting a ballroom up, which is appropriate if he wants to pay for it.

01:20:00.080 I don't want to pay for it.

01:20:01.100 As a taxpayer, I don't care if you have all the elites in mud holes.

01:20:05.520 But if you want to pay for it, Mr. President, that's your money.

01:20:08.280 And he said, I'm going to build a beautiful, going to be the greatest American ballroom ever done.

01:20:14.340 And he's building this giant ballroom based, I think, kind of on what he has in Mar-a-Lago.

01:20:21.040 And it is beautiful, and it's great.

01:20:23.940 And, you know, he was talking about, I'm a builder.

01:20:27.360 I know how to build these things.

01:20:29.180 I know how to build it so it will last forever.

01:20:31.820 And he said, and I can build it cheaply, and it will be on my dime, but it will last forever.

01:20:37.800 And I said, what is the process to build something here?

01:20:44.620 And he laughed, and he said, that was my question.

01:20:48.420 I wanted to know, what is it going to take?

01:20:50.820 What is it going to take?

01:20:51.600 He said, so I called the White House architect, because the White House architect has to approve absolutely everything.

01:20:58.480 And he said, look, I want to take it right here from the, I think it's the East Room.

01:21:03.160 He said, I want to take it from the East Room.

01:21:04.640 You go through this wall, there will be another, you know, covered walkway.

01:21:09.080 And it will go out to this big, beautiful ballroom.

01:21:11.760 And I explained it to him.

01:21:13.060 And I said, so, can I do it?

01:21:16.680 And he said, and what kind of time is it going to take me to get this thing done with all the permits?

01:21:23.200 And he said, the White House architect said, Mr. President, you're going to love this.

01:21:30.160 You're the president.

01:21:31.240 And the president can do whatever he wants on the White House grounds.

01:21:39.160 So, if you want to build it, you're the one who has to sign all the permits.

01:21:44.760 So, go ahead.

01:21:45.640 He looked at me, and he said, I'm going to have this thing done by Thanksgiving.

01:21:48.920 And I have a feeling he just might, you know, if war doesn't break out and he's not distracted on so many other things.

01:21:57.000 But what he's doing to the White House is remarkable.

01:22:02.340 No other president has done anything like this.

01:22:04.600 You know, they built a rose garden.

01:22:06.580 I think it was Johnson.

01:22:07.560 Was it Johnson or Ford?

01:22:09.540 I can't remember which one.

01:22:10.380 Built a pool.

01:22:11.540 Another one put a tennis court in.

01:22:13.160 But those were all things for the president, you know, and his family.

01:22:17.040 I want a pool.

01:22:17.860 I want a bowling alley. 0.56

01:22:18.920 And they would put things like this.

01:22:20.640 He's putting the American flag in because he thinks it says something about the White House.

01:22:25.720 Makes it more beautiful and more stunning.

01:22:29.580 And then he's putting in a ballroom because the country needs it for state dinners, etc., etc.

01:22:36.240 Not for his comfort.

01:22:38.800 And I don't think there's been another president that has done anything like this.

01:22:42.440 And there is the extra benefit that it just really just drives the left out of their mind.

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01:26:20.340 I got to tell you, Ted Cruz just posted something I think is hysterical.

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01:26:55.860 Oh, God.

01:26:58.140 You know, I like Tucker and I like Ted.

01:27:01.420 I, you know, I feel this.

01:27:02.700 I said this yesterday and I like Elon and I like Donald Trump and I don't want to split anymore.

01:27:08.820 Can we stop all of this stuff?

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01:27:12.720 You know, I have been wrong so many times.

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01:27:21.800 If you just condemn me, maybe, you know, maybe I don't ever get to find the right answer.

01:27:27.860 Let's have conversations so we can learn from one another.

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01:27:36.220 Stop it.

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01:29:58.680 There is a huge controversy going on in the right now, because what do we need?

01:30:04.820 Why should we all come together?

01:30:06.920 Let's just start tearing each other apart even more.

01:30:09.620 Now, Mike Lee has proposed selling one half of 1% of federal land to the private sector for, quote, affordable housing.

01:30:20.760 That's an interesting term, affordable housing, and everybody is torpedoing him on it.

01:30:28.060 I want to talk to you about it.

01:30:29.440 I have a different stance, and it might even be different than Mike's, but he's going to join us in about half an hour to talk about what it actually says.

01:30:37.480 But I want to go through some of the arguments on this, because I think we should have a real argument, especially for people.

01:30:42.620 You know, what is it, 70% or 60% of the population lives east of the Mississippi.

01:30:48.840 It might even be higher than that.

01:30:50.300 You have no idea what the West is like and how much acreage.

01:30:54.300 You know, you would go crazy in the east if the United States government owned as much land and percentage of land as they own out west.

01:31:03.200 But we'll get into that here in just a second.

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01:31:33.780 Now, let me give you a couple of things from people I generally respect.

01:31:38.180 Chris Ruffo, I really respect.

01:31:40.020 I'm totally against selling this land.

01:31:42.220 Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

01:31:49.360 I agree.

01:31:49.800 It's in Washington State.

01:31:50.740 It's on the coast, and it's a rainforest.

01:31:52.400 I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam.

01:31:58.920 That's a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

01:32:00.680 That's really good.

01:32:02.300 Matt Walsh chimes in.

01:32:04.000 I'm very opposed to the plan.

01:32:05.220 The biggest environmentalists in the country are and always have been conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

01:32:09.600 We don't just call ourselves environmentalists because the label has too much baggage and the practice always means just communist.

01:32:15.020 Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever.

01:32:24.360 I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

01:32:26.920 Preserving nature is important.

01:32:28.760 Do you think so?

01:32:29.380 It's a shame that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coded it never was historically.

01:32:36.840 No, and it still isn't.

01:32:38.020 You're right about one thing, Matt.

01:32:39.440 We are the best conservators.

01:32:42.200 We actually live in these places.

01:32:44.160 We use these places.

01:32:45.480 We respect the animals.

01:32:47.240 We respect the land.

01:32:48.400 We know how the circle of life works, so I agree with you on that, but affordable housing, what do you say, affordable housing or whatever?

01:32:58.880 Are you afraid those will be black people? 1.00

01:33:00.740 I'm just playing devil's advocate.

01:33:02.100 You're just afraid of the black people. 1.00

01:33:03.360 You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forests. 1.00

01:33:06.200 That's not what they mean by affordable housing, and I know that's not what you mean either, but what we mean by affordable housing is,

01:33:15.800 if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states,

01:33:21.740 you can't live in a house in some of these states close to anything for less than a million dollars because there's no land.

01:33:33.760 There's plenty of land all around, and some of it, I mean, let's just talk about Utah.

01:33:39.080 Some of it is like the surface of the moon, but no, no, no.

01:33:42.960 You're not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon, but we can't have you live anywhere.

01:33:49.320 I mean, you have to open up.

01:33:52.100 There is a balance between people and the planet, and I'm sorry, but when you're talking about one half of 1% and we're not talking about Yellowstone, you know, we're not.

01:34:05.440 Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says,

01:34:08.920 United States is attempting to sell off 3 million acres of public land to be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

01:34:15.660 This small provision to the big, beautiful bill would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming at risk

01:34:24.920 without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

01:34:30.700 You know, I'll talk to him about this.

01:34:33.280 The irony is the addition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of conservation.

01:34:40.660 President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy, you know, yada, yada, yada, more about Teddy Roosevelt.

01:34:45.780 Then, let me give you this one from Lomaz.

01:34:50.480 Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

01:34:54.800 This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances

01:35:00.000 and would be a colossal political blunder, but I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee and at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

01:35:07.980 Okay, I'm going to have him do that in about 30 minutes, but let me give you just my perspective on this.

01:35:13.980 I'm from the West.

01:35:15.420 I love the West.

01:35:16.820 I don't hike myself.

01:35:18.260 I think there's about 80% of the people who say, I just love to hike, and they don't love to hike.

01:35:22.340 They never go outside, but I'm at least willing to admit I don't like to hike, but I love the land.

01:35:29.400 I live in a canyon now that I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime.

01:35:37.200 I'm not going to rule from the grave, but in my lifetime to protect this so it remains unspoiled because it is beautiful.

01:35:44.700 But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land, and it's becoming dangerous, that it's a giveaway or a threat to nature.

01:35:54.880 But can we just look at the perspective here?

01:35:57.860 The federal government owns 640 million acres.

01:36:01.720 That is nearly 28% of all land in America.

01:36:07.640 How much land do we have?

01:36:10.480 Well, that's about the size of France, Germany, Poland, and the United Kingdom combined.

01:36:17.780 They own and hold pristine land that is more than the size of those countries combined, and most of that is west of the Mississippi, where the federal control smothers the states, shuts down opportunity, turns local citizens into tenants of the federal estate.

01:36:38.880 You can't afford any house because you don't have any land, and the states can't afford to take care of all this land.

01:36:47.080 And you know why the states can't afford?

01:36:48.600 Because you can't charge taxes on 70% of your land.

01:36:55.240 Anyway, so meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia, Pennsylvania, you don't even realize how little of the land you actually control or how easy it is for the same policies to come for you.

01:37:13.720 And those policies are real.

01:37:15.060 Now, look, I am not talking about – I'm disturbed by Chris Ruffo saying that it is the Olympic forest.

01:37:22.560 I mean, you're not going to live in the rainforest.

01:37:25.040 I mean, I'd like to hear the case on that.

01:37:27.260 But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

01:37:32.060 We're talking about less than one-half of 1% of federal land, land that is remote, hard to access, or mismanaged.

01:37:41.920 I live in the middle of a national forest, so I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that, and then me.

01:37:53.620 You know who the worst neighbor I have is? 1.00

01:37:58.580 The federal government.

01:38:00.600 The BLM land is so badly mismanaged.

01:38:04.400 They don't care what's happening.

01:38:06.460 Yeah, I'm going to call my neighbor in Washington, D.C. to have them fix something.

01:38:11.400 It's not going to happen.

01:38:12.660 If something's wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

01:38:19.500 We end up doing it because the federal government sucks at it.

01:38:24.680 Okay, so here's one less than one-half of 1%.

01:38:31.320 Why is it hard to access that land?

01:38:35.580 Well, let me give you a story.

01:38:38.380 Yellowstone.

01:38:39.140 Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo, but it's the American bison,

01:38:44.500 there are no true American bison in any place other than Yellowstone.

01:38:50.160 Did you know that?

01:38:51.740 Here is almost an endangered species.

01:38:54.920 It's the only true American bison is in Yellowstone.

01:39:00.020 Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison, and I would protect them. 1.00

01:39:06.260 I would love to have them roaming on my land.

01:39:09.360 But you can't.

01:39:11.800 You can't.

01:39:12.760 Real bison, you can't. 1.00

01:39:14.940 Why?

01:39:15.720 Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

01:39:19.740 In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

01:39:25.480 Kills them and buries them with a bulldozer.

01:39:29.060 Instead of saying, hey, we have too many, we're going to thin the herd, let's just put them on a truck,

01:39:32.680 and here's some ranchers that want to, you know, help repopulate the United States with bison.

01:39:38.520 No, no, no.

01:39:39.140 You can't do that.

01:39:39.980 Why?

01:39:40.360 I don't know.

01:39:40.860 It's the federal government.

01:39:41.760 Stop asking questions.

01:39:43.620 Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles?

01:39:46.220 I have pictures of piles of bald eagles that they'll never show you.

01:39:53.440 They'll never show you.

01:39:55.260 You can't have a bald eagle feather.

01:39:58.040 It's against the law to have a feather from a bald eagle.

01:40:02.700 If it's flying and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up because they're that sacred.

01:40:08.280 But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles dead from the windmills, and nobody says a thing.

01:40:18.600 Okay, but we're talking about lands.

01:40:21.340 States can't afford to manage it. 1.00

01:40:24.700 Okay, but how can the federal government?

01:40:26.720 Now, this is really important.

01:40:28.920 The federal government is, what, $35 trillion a debt, or are we $45 trillion now?

01:40:33.540 I'm not sure.

01:40:34.180 However, our entitlement programs all strained, infrastructure crumbling, and yet we're still

01:40:39.160 clinging to millions of acres of land that the federal government can't maintain.

01:40:44.580 Okay, yeah, they can, because they can always print money.

01:40:46.940 We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

01:40:50.000 Okay, hear me out.

01:40:52.720 The BLM, Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails,

01:40:58.600 fire breaks.

01:40:59.480 Everything is falling apart.

01:41:00.920 So what's the real plan here?

01:41:02.340 Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing

01:41:06.740 for what was called 30 by 30.

01:41:09.340 They want 30% of all U.S. land and water under conservation by 2030.

01:41:15.040 But the real goal is 50-50.

01:41:17.800 50% of the land and the water in the government's control by 2050.

01:41:23.060 Half of the country locked up under federal or elite-approved protection.

01:41:28.500 Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle, harvest,

01:41:35.100 timber, just live free?

01:41:37.020 You're not going to be able to go on those.

01:41:38.940 It's not going to be conservatives who stop you from hunting and fishing.

01:41:43.700 It will be the same radical environmental ideologues who see the land as sacred over people.

01:41:51.200 I mean, you know, unless it's in your backyard, your truck, or your deer stand, you know,

01:41:57.340 then I guess you can't touch that land.

01:42:02.080 Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

01:42:07.240 The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

01:42:12.260 Sorry, under Biden, and they're doing it now.

01:42:14.180 The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national balance sheet.

01:42:19.440 What does that mean?

01:42:21.300 Well, it's going to make our balance sheet look so much better because it looks like we have so much more wealth,

01:42:26.220 and we'll be able to print more money.

01:42:28.520 Uh-huh.

01:42:29.240 What happens, you know, you put something sacred like that on your balance sheet,

01:42:35.940 and the piggy bank runs dry, and all of the banks are like,

01:42:40.220 uh, okay, well, you can't pay anymore.

01:42:42.640 What happens in a default?

01:42:44.780 What happens if there's catastrophic failure?

01:42:50.140 You don't get to go fish on that land because that land becomes Chinese. 1.00

01:42:54.940 You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

01:42:59.040 What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure but a financial asset

01:43:03.680 that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries?

01:43:09.520 That land that you thought you'd always have access to for your kids, for your hunting lodge,

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01:44:44.780 Now, conservatives are saying we've got to let the federal government conserve all of our land

01:44:59.140 because they're so good at everything that they do.

01:45:03.040 Right.

01:45:03.720 Okay.

01:45:04.620 Here's an alternative.

01:45:06.020 And I know it's going to sound like madness, but hear me out for a second.

01:45:08.360 Let the people who live near the land steward the land. 0.90

01:45:13.080 Let the ranchers, the farmers, the sportsmen, the private conservationists do what we've done for generations.

01:45:19.380 I'm not talking about selling all the federal land by any stretch of the imagination.

01:45:23.360 I love the national parks.

01:45:24.880 I love our national forests.

01:45:26.780 They are important to us.

01:45:28.700 But did you know that 80% of Americans' wetlands are privately held?

01:45:33.580 80% of our wetland.

01:45:36.240 Private land.

01:45:37.640 Or some of the most successful wildlife recoveries, from white-tailed deer to ducks to wild turkeys.

01:45:45.280 That's not happening because of Washington, D.C., but because of a partnership between private landowners and sportsmen's groups.

01:45:54.160 Private ownership works.

01:45:57.400 Private stewardship works because it's accountable, local, and incentivized.

01:46:03.860 You break it.

01:46:04.680 You fix it.

01:46:05.640 You profit from the land.

01:46:07.000 You protect it.

01:46:08.920 This is the way of America.

01:46:12.120 And I know we just think that everything is just going to be owned by big, huge bosses that are smoking cigars in the back room.

01:46:20.240 And, you know, a lot of times that's true.

01:46:22.720 But it doesn't have to be true.

01:46:24.820 This is really important to all of us.

01:46:28.040 You know, federal sprawl, faceless management from thousands of miles away, that doesn't work.

01:46:34.780 So, when you hear media panic over 3 million acres of land, remember, this is not a sellout.

01:46:43.160 I believe it's a buy-in to freedom, responsibility, constitutional order.

01:46:48.880 They are trying to buy up to 50% of the land.

01:46:52.940 If you sell one half of 1% of what they currently hold, you're down to 27.5% of all the land in America instead of 28.

01:47:03.940 And next year, they want to be at 29.

01:47:07.020 And the year after that, at 30.

01:47:10.180 What are you talking about?

01:47:14.660 Washington doesn't protect anything.

01:47:17.040 Washington destroys everything.

01:47:19.600 I have no problem.

01:47:20.320 You want to turn all of this land over to the state?

01:47:23.320 Then turn it over to the state where it belongs.

01:47:25.840 It does not belong in the hands of the federal government.

01:47:28.140 You can have national parks.

01:47:30.360 You can have national forests.

01:47:31.920 Okay.

01:47:33.320 But not, the state should not be told by the government that they can't have access to between 60 and 80% of the land in their own state.

01:47:46.320 You want to talk about fascism?

01:47:48.360 What is that?

01:47:50.940 Honestly, I want the federal government to get out of my way.

01:47:54.280 Sportsmen, ranchers, patriots.

01:47:59.200 I don't know.

01:48:00.080 We can care for it like we always have.

01:48:03.640 Because it's not just about land.

01:48:06.020 It is about our way of life.

01:48:08.240 It is about our traditions.

01:48:10.340 It is about our liberty.

01:48:12.920 And that's the most important one.

01:48:14.720 When you have the federal government claiming that they, and actively, they already have the, they already have the money being pulled off every year.

01:48:22.560 They have the money pulled off so they can buy more land.

01:48:25.880 This is the only thing that they actually have a slush fund for that, you know, your social security, screw that.

01:48:32.940 But they have the money to buy more land.

01:48:37.140 And why are they buying it?

01:48:38.800 Not so you can hunt and fish, but so they can push you into the cities.

01:48:44.260 You're not going to be able to hunt and fish on that land by 2050.

01:48:48.900 Your kids won't have that opportunity.

01:48:53.060 Why do you think that all around the big national parks, they are letting the infrastructure, the roads, and everything else, in places where it's private land, why doesn't the government fix the roads, fix the infrastructure?

01:49:08.540 Because they don't want people there.

01:49:11.140 They want to keep pushing people into the cities.

01:49:13.860 This is, we can disagree on this, on what percentage or what lands or whatever.

01:49:23.680 We can debate all of that.

01:49:25.740 But if you don't take into consideration that the federal government is trying to gobble up all of the land, read the UN Agenda 2030.

01:49:35.280 Read Agenda 2050.

01:49:37.220 Read the World Economic Forum.

01:49:38.740 Read anything from these radical environmentalist groups.

01:49:42.920 They're all leftists.

01:49:44.540 Why do we give up the word environmentalist?

01:49:47.600 He's right.

01:49:48.680 Because it just means communist to us.

01:49:51.180 Which should tell you everything you need to know.

01:49:56.480 Who is leading all of this?

01:50:00.720 Globalists.

01:50:02.040 Communists.

01:50:04.040 Radicals. 0.97

01:50:05.200 Radical environmentalists.

01:50:06.620 You know what?

01:50:07.520 I will listen to the farmers.

01:50:10.060 I'll listen to the ranchers.

01:50:11.340 I'll listen to any real, true conservative that understands and has read Agenda 2030, Agenda 2050, the World Economic Forum's plans.

01:50:24.080 I'll listen to you.

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01:52:11.720 Oh, my gosh.

01:52:12.880 Mike Lee is here.

01:52:16.060 A man who hates land, who hates fishing, who hates water, who hates air, who just wants to sell all of our national parks, or at least good portions of them, to private fat cats so he can build, quote, affordable housing.

01:52:32.140 And we all know what that's code for, right?

01:52:35.140 I mean, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

01:52:39.040 And I have had this conversation with my family.

01:52:41.380 And I've tried to explain that to them calmly and peacefully.

01:52:45.320 And it doesn't seem to make an impact.

01:52:47.820 But maybe Mike Lee, who is a much better orator than I am, can actually bring the facts to the table so we can stop having this stupid argument on selling the federal lands.

01:52:59.700 Mike Lee, welcome to the program.

01:53:01.020 Thanks so much, Glenn.

01:53:03.140 Good to be with you.

01:53:04.520 Thank you.

01:53:05.120 You are hated by many members of my family because you want them to stop fishing.

01:53:10.180 You want them to stop going to the national parks.

01:53:12.920 You want they've been hunting in certain areas and you are going to take it from them.

01:53:17.020 Look, if all I knew about this bill were the falsehoods being circulated by the left, I'd hate it, too.

01:53:26.680 But look, Glenn, here's here's the truth.

01:53:29.720 Every one of those statements that you made in your opening reflects falsehood.

01:53:34.540 What we're dealing with is an entire generation of Americans that will fail to launch if we can't bring the dream of homeownership back within reach.

01:53:44.400 And years have failed policies.

01:53:45.760 It's helped drive up inflation and helped make living entirely unaffordable for young Americans.

01:53:52.720 We can't let that happen.

01:53:53.960 Meanwhile, the federal government owns 640 million acres of land, nearly a third of all land in the United States.

01:54:03.000 The vast majority of that land has zero recreational value.

01:54:06.940 So, disposing of a fraction of one percent of that so that the next generation can afford a home is a common sense solution to a national problem.

01:54:18.520 Now, there are a lot of Mike, I will tell you that that sounds great.

01:54:23.360 But you're talking about building an affordable housing in deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is a rainforest.

01:54:31.060 It's a beautiful place.

01:54:32.620 You just want the Olympic Peninsula to have houses in it.

01:54:36.400 Absolutely.

01:54:36.940 Not a and looked at the map being circulated by the left wing Wilderness Society run by President Biden's own BLM director and eco-terrorist, you know, Tracy Stone Manning is flat out misleading.

01:54:50.580 First of all, when this bill puts land up, puts it in the category of eligibility for sale, it doesn't mean for sale.

01:54:59.480 It just means there's a process by which it could be transferred.

01:55:03.300 That's impossible right now.

01:55:04.440 Secondly, with regard to any of these protected lands, the crown jewel lands of the United States, in this bill, it can't operate.

01:55:16.700 Like, legally, it excludes anything that's within any of the 15 designations of federally protected land.

01:55:24.280 So if it's in a national park, a wilderness area, a recreation area, wild and scenic rivers, trails, preserves, seashores, lakeshores, historic parks, memorials, any of the 15 categories, it's not even eligible for this.

01:55:39.400 And they're working on changes to further limit eligible lands to those forest service land within two miles of a population center and lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management within five miles of a population center.

01:55:57.440 So this deals with land that is only in or near a place where people live, and it doesn't authorize the sale.

01:56:07.740 It authorizes a process whereby it could be considered for that purpose.

01:56:11.880 You know, I have heard, I have heard from my, I've heard from my environmentalist friends and family that that doesn't give anyone any, they have no say in their own lands.

01:56:25.060 They have no say in their own lands. 0.97

01:56:26.800 You're just going to take it and there's no process.

01:56:29.700 You're just going to decide and take it and sell it.

01:56:32.340 Yeah, all absolute falsehoods.

01:56:37.620 And look, the bottom line.

01:56:40.120 What is the process?

01:56:41.160 What's the process, Mike?

01:56:42.700 The process for it, it requires the nomination, the application to the Bureau of Land Management or to the U.S. Forest Service.

01:56:52.180 They say this meets these criteria.

01:56:53.740 It doesn't fit within any of the categories of protected land.

01:56:57.520 It's within either two miles or five miles of an existing population center, depending on whether it's Forest Service or BLM land.

01:57:06.300 And at the end of the day, if the land is deemed suitable for single-family housing, and by the way, that's all it's allowed for is single-family housing, not high-density housing of any kind,

01:57:18.460 then and only then can it be purchased at a discounted rate so that more people can have access to land.

01:57:28.820 Now, look, we're talking here about nothing that would affect grazing rights.

01:57:34.540 It incorporates valid existing rights, including grazing rights, and would take that land out of eligibility for sale on something like this.

01:57:45.860 There is no land that will necessarily be sold, transferred, or handed over just because it appears on one of these maps.

01:57:55.160 What we're dealing with is a fraction of 1% of the land owned by the U.S. government,

01:57:59.880 an entity that was never supposed to own between a fourth and a third of the land in the United States.

01:58:07.080 And this is not the crown jewel land.

01:58:10.660 This is garden-variety land that's just sitting there vacant where people can, do, and should live.

01:58:17.760 Mike, why is this so controversial among conservatives?

01:58:24.620 Well, frankly, I think some of it is being driven by the left, by misinformation driven by the left and by people like Tracy Stone Manning.

01:58:34.200 I think there are other people, other people who would consider themselves conservatives, who for one reason or another are not working off of accurate information.

01:58:48.920 And because they mistakenly believe that this bill would do more than it actually does, that it would sell every parcel of land that we've got or every parcel of land that's listed as potentially eligible here, that that's going to bring on Armageddon.

01:59:06.600 But again, we're talking about a tiny fraction of all the land the U.S. government owns, a fraction of 1% of all that.

01:59:14.300 And in states like mine, in Utah, where the federal government owns close to 70% of the land in our state, and meanwhile, we've got people moving in from places like California.

01:59:27.140 We've got families that are growing, and people are experiencing a genuine housing shortage.

01:59:34.680 This is there to help address that.

01:59:36.400 President Trump knows that this is unacceptable, that America should be dealing with such a housing crisis, especially in western states like mine, where there's a lot of federal land.

01:59:47.660 That's why President Trump has talked about this sort of thing.

01:59:50.540 He said, they can't find housing.

01:59:52.020 We have so much land, and we're going to put it to use.

01:59:54.700 And I applaud him for doing so.

01:59:57.820 What are the chances that this goes through as is?

02:00:00.940 Look, I think we've got a very good chance of it going through as part of the big, beautiful bill, which the Senate will be considering as early as next week.

02:00:15.600 And, look, the American people will be better off as a result of this.

02:00:20.400 We have to realize that it's more important, particularly in lands that are in or near existing population centers, we opt to make some of that available, especially in states with a lot of public land like mine.

02:00:40.800 I have family members, Mike, that, you know, I've been joking about it here, but I have family members been going back and forth with me.

02:00:47.660 I mean, we've had great conversations, but it is, they are really, truly terrified that the land that they have hunted on, they've camped on, they've hiked on, is all going to be gone, and they won't have anything to say about it.

02:01:04.720 Yes, well, and that's simply not true.

02:01:07.280 Look, we've got state and local government consultation requirements, and the agencies are still going to have to comply with all kinds of existing federal laws, including the APA necessitating a public process by which these lands would be considered.

02:01:28.300 And so, those who are suggesting this bill does more than it actually does, in some instances, people might be operating on good faith based on things others have repeated.

02:01:40.580 But I think a lot of this is being driven by the far left and by people like eco-terrorist Tracy Stone Manning, who accept as almost an article of faith that you can't ever allow any land that is today under the ownership of the U.S. government, you can't ever let that be owned by anyone else.

02:02:01.420 It's simply illogical, and it's very unfair to those who live in public land states.

02:02:06.760 And 30 by 30 wants 30 percent, so they want to gain another 3 percent, and 50 by 50 wants 50 percent of the American land.

02:02:16.700 That is the goal of the left.

02:02:19.940 And, you know, I don't understand how people are not talking about that part of it, which is well documented.

02:02:27.320 I mean, Biden put it into play.

02:02:30.760 Why isn't anybody talking about this?

02:02:32.640 We're talking about less than a half a percent, and they're talking about gobbling up 3 percent in the next three years alone.

02:02:44.620 I don't know.

02:02:45.460 I think that kind of seems important.

02:02:47.280 And the other thing that really bothers me that the federal government is doing, our treasury is doing, is they're trying to put all of our land onto our balance sheet.

02:02:55.180 I don't like that, Mike.

02:02:56.940 What happens in the end when we can't pay our bills because we just would never face reality?

02:03:03.780 I mean, what happens then?

02:03:05.580 Who's buying the big banks, maybe foreign governments?

02:03:09.180 Who gets that land when the government has just pissed it away in debt?

02:03:16.440 No, that's exactly right.

02:03:20.960 It's that we've got to get a hold of our debt and deficit.

02:03:24.320 We've also got to make it possible for people to continue to live the American dream.

02:03:31.080 And the way to happiness is not more government ownership.

02:03:35.080 The way to happiness is to allow the American people a fighting chance in the race of life and the ability to raise their families.

02:03:46.640 It's just on no planet is unreasonable to say we're going to take a fraction of a percent of federal land that's not protected and make it potentially eligible for consideration for a place where people could live.

02:04:01.620 Quickly, Mike, how did they get all this land?

02:04:06.380 How did this happen?

02:04:08.440 All right.

02:04:08.760 As states were added to the union, starting really with the Louisiana Purchase, land that was not owned by somebody as of the moment of statehood was very often deemed federal in the Statehood Enabling Act of the state in question.

02:04:24.720 In states like mine, many of those states added since the Louisiana Purchase got language in there contemplating that that federal land would ultimately be sold and that as it was sold, a percentage of it would go to the state, often as is the case in Utah's Enabling Act, for the benefit of the state's public education system.

02:04:44.660 The U.S. government honored that plan with respect to states throughout the Midwest.

02:04:52.500 When we got to the Rocky Mountains, the land was regarded as rugged, not as valuable, and it didn't unfold that way.

02:05:00.260 And policy changed in the mid-70s, not leading to that.

02:05:03.840 But this all comes back to something that was actually discussed at the Constitutional Convention.

02:05:09.260 I believe it was Airbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, who in September of 1787 raised a concern, talking about the fact that, you know, it could be a problem.

02:05:20.520 If the U.S. government controlled too much land in some of the states and utilized its vast authority over that land, it could compel those states to an undue sort of subservience to the U.S. government.

02:05:35.400 And it's a legitimate concern, and it's a concern that I think is reflected in this bill.

02:05:40.720 But this bill, more than anything, is there to help the American people afford housing, particularly in states like mine, where there's a lot of federal land that doesn't have any recreational value or aesthetic value or scientific value, but is in a place where people live and need homes.

02:05:56.300 That should at least be eligible for consideration.

02:05:58.860 Right now, it's not.

02:05:59.880 That's unfair.

02:06:00.560 This bill would fix that.

02:06:02.540 Thanks, Mike.

02:06:02.840 I appreciate it.

02:06:03.480 But I've got to tell you, there's not a single person that signed the Constitution that would have signed it if they knew the federal government could control 70% of their land.

02:06:13.340 They would never have signed it.

02:06:15.100 Never have signed it.

02:06:15.940 Mike, thank you so much.

02:06:16.760 Appreciate it.

02:06:17.720 All right.

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02:06:21.360 Just get the facts.

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02:09:47.240 I've been told this app has become the place to go for common sense political discussion and analysis.

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 19, 2025

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