The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 106 ｜ Segregation Survivor： How to Counter BLM's FALSE Racial Narrative ｜ Bob Woodson ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 today's guest is a genius certified genius in 1990 he won the macarthur genius grant

00:00:08.760 and it has been non-stop his entire life all the odds have always been against him

00:00:15.380 but his mother told him to strive for excellence and he did and he has made quite an impact

00:00:21.560 you may not know his name but once you meet him you'll never forget him

00:00:25.800 it is uh it's a long journey he was a civil rights activist in the 1960s he went to jail he

00:00:33.660 devoted his life to improving the lives of low-income people he was also the director of

00:00:41.080 the american enterprise institute he founded the national center for neighborhood enterprise he

00:00:46.980 founded then the woodson center he is a guy who you probably don't know because he's not out there

00:00:54.840 trying to drum up spotlight he's a guy who lives in the communities and does everything he can to

00:01:00.820 fix them he is a perfect example of a person with solutions in an era that is inundated with

00:01:07.880 difficult questions he goes through all of this and much more in his upcoming book red right and black

00:01:14.380 rescuing american history from revisionists and race hustlers today on the glenbeck podcast the one

00:01:21.240 and only my good friend bob woodson hello my friend bob how are you i'm just fine man always good to see

00:01:41.660 you you're an inspiration oh please uh i wanted to start this podcast with how you inspire other

00:01:50.720 people it was the day after the chauvin verdict came in um president or sorry president biden had

00:01:58.940 gotten up and said that you know we're a systematically racist country etc etc and a lot of people

00:02:05.060 they even agreed uh with the verdict that something was wrong there and he should be punished for it

00:02:12.040 a lot of people felt pretty down in the mouth and that morning i came in and the first call i took

00:02:18.980 was this call i want you to hear it what the president did yesterday was so irresponsible and

00:02:24.540 so i woke up angry and then i called my good friend bob woodson who you've had on your show several

00:02:30.840 times and yeah yeah he talked he talked me off the ledge he said we need to do as mother teresa we

00:02:36.940 need to increase our faith he and he reminded me of the story of david and goliath and he says we are

00:02:43.140 the david he indicated that the low-income black american who's been used as a pawn in all of this

00:02:50.380 is our is a sleeping giant and we need to cultivate them and and help them rise up to counter this false

00:02:58.560 narrative that's by the way being promoted by people who are probably making six figures or more

00:03:03.660 who have made it who have been successful and now crying racism bob woodson i've wanted to talk to you

00:03:11.740 ever since that phone call came in uh because i think there's a lot of people that are losing hope

00:03:18.120 america is just being beaten down into the ground everything is racist and the people who are the

00:03:25.260 race baiters if you will seem to be profiting uh off it and buying houses and nobody's being held

00:03:32.880 accountable for it it's shameful what is happening because there are real problems in america that we

00:03:38.620 can solve so help us bob help us well the best metaphor for what you're talking about the fact that

00:03:44.760 al sharpness flew in on a learjet

00:03:47.020 maxine waters left a three million dollar mansion and requested capitol hill police escort 1.00

00:03:56.780 and she was rallying to the leader of black lives matter that just bought about 3.4 million and

00:04:04.660 uh big estates won a three point uh 1.3 mansion in a white neighborhood patrolled by white police officers

00:04:14.860 so so what do we do with that information because it's you'll ever meet i know that well that

00:04:22.900 marxist as you know always become rich themselves uh once things have turned but the it's almost as

00:04:31.700 if we're standing in a country and we're like am i the only one seeing this how come nobody's

00:04:37.780 how come nobody else is seeing this but you know what the caller was saying that i believe that the

00:04:44.340 sleeping giant are low-income blacks first of all if you look at the numbers 80 percent of low-income 1.00

00:04:49.460 blacks who are losing their children in this savage carnage that is going on in the inner cities 1.00

00:04:55.160 as the police are demonized as an extension of the white supremacy and therefore they are pulling back 0.98

00:05:03.000 in these communities and as a consequence the murder rate is soaring glenn on easter sunday morning 0.94

00:05:10.220 in birmingham alabama a thousand blacks are picnicking in the park six black thugs discharged 100 bullets 0.96

00:05:19.520 killing a 32 year old uh a daughter of a local pastor that just finished singing in a church 0.98

00:05:26.920 and they shot 16 other peoples and killing a four-year-old boy never i never even heard this

00:05:33.400 how come i hadn't heard this story and three days after that in syracuse a 32 year old mother was killed

00:05:39.900 an 11 month old was was killed and two other toddlers were shot and just two days ago a three-year-old in

00:05:49.560 dave county uh was killed at his third birthday and so where is the outrage whereas where and but this goes

00:06:02.460 unignoticed but low-income blacks are the ones who are suffering this carnage and they are speaking up

00:06:09.340 i think this is the same i mean history just replays and replays and replays until you learn the lesson 0.92

00:06:15.620 the taking away of guns was a clan thing the um uh making sure that you were boxed off from everyone

00:06:26.040 was a clan thing segregation was a clan's thing all of this stuff i look at and i i remember talking to

00:06:36.040 black lives matter members who did not read the website they were not marxist they were not they just

00:06:43.660 wanted someone to finally listen to them because their community was under attack by their own community

00:06:51.960 i had one grandmother say i don't trust my grandson and she said that that's that's new to our community

00:06:58.740 and we need help and nobody is actually paying attention this is all politics and all about power and money

00:07:08.640 and what do we do to actually help the people who need help um because honestly we're demonized

00:07:17.380 you're white if bob you know this i go into a black community i'm going to be called all kinds of 0.85

00:07:24.500 names and i'm only doing it because of this or that you can't be charitable and white you can't go 0.97

00:07:30.220 actually and help people but but glenn you see but they do the voices of dissent who are protesting

00:07:37.520 they do not represent the majority of black opinions the woodson center we have we have organized

00:07:45.880 2 500 black mothers voices of black mothers united who all lost children to urban violence

00:07:53.340 they took out a full page ad saying we support the police they just had a conference in birmingham

00:08:00.040 where half of the participants were police officers so that they were demonstrating their

00:08:06.260 common community with the police and so there are other uh neighborhood organizations around the

00:08:13.280 country 60 percent of blacks polled do not believe that racial discrimination is their principal barrier

00:08:19.860 but you would never know that by listening to the people that the left-wing media puts on as

00:08:26.900 spokesperson for the black community you know i don't know if you saw 60 minutes but in with 60 minutes

00:08:33.280 uh they interviewed um um what's his name the the um attorney general in uh keith ellison in minnesota

00:08:43.260 yeah and he he he said and this is one question i've been asking the whole time look i think

00:08:49.180 chauvin what he did was wrong i think he should be punished i think he should go to jail i wasn't in

00:08:54.460 the jury box i also don't know minnesota law so i don't know what he should have gotten but i'm fine

00:08:59.580 i trust the jury and the system to get it right um however i've been asking the they nobody even brought

00:09:08.860 up that he was a racist in the trial nobody brought up any evidence that this had anything to do with

00:09:14.460 race so why have we even been talking about race when it comes to chauvin that was not even even

00:09:22.180 keith ellison said no not a shred of evidence this had anything to do with color well then what are we

00:09:28.020 the president himself is pushing this narrative even in the shooting in columbus ohio the first

00:09:36.020 thing he says well we know the systemic what is systemic racism i don't know what it is and i live

00:09:43.060 through segregation and in fact i'll tell you i would i would almost rather deal with an honest bigot

00:09:51.460 from the 60s than to deal with the kind of patronizing uh uh pandering that they're doing

00:09:59.220 that really uh is destroying our community from within but there are elements pushing back against

00:10:06.740 it we've got voices of black mothers we've got uh thousands of people who are who are longing for

00:10:12.980 a decent education for their children choice and education we released our first uh series of of uh of

00:10:20.740 curriculum for for uh curriculum to counter 1619 we had 10 000 downloads and when we we testified before

00:10:33.140 two boards of education a lot of people are being misled and hoodwinked by this racial all of us want 0.73

00:10:40.020 freedom and justice uh for everybody and justice but the left is is really a weaponizing race and and so

00:10:49.300 that's why it's important we're raising the resources necessary to give voice to the voiceless

00:10:56.180 people in these communities who are losing their children there have been 70 people killed since

00:11:02.020 george floyd you wouldn't know about it 20 of them were children and so what we need to do is we need to

00:11:08.980 counter this false racial narrative with examples of resilience of perseverance in the black community

00:11:18.740 that really defines uh the the content of our lives so then how can we help empower you because

00:11:27.140 there's a lot of americans white black asian doesn't matter there's a lot of americans that are tired of 0.96

00:11:34.020 this and want to do something positive and and help people who are actually helping so how can we help empower

00:11:41.380 you what you can help do is walk with us we need funding we need your ability to what you're doing

00:11:48.260 right now is giving us a platform i would love to bring some of those the voices of black mothers united

00:11:54.660 on i'd love you got it to have some of them so there are a lot of powerful voices uh out there who believe

00:12:03.700 as i believe in the in the in the content of this america america's character and we are we are patriots

00:12:12.100 but we need to come together uh and and provide the the means for us to speak the truth to power

00:12:22.180 so we need the kind of partnerships the pharaoh i call it the pharaoh joseph relationships

00:12:27.380 uh so here's the uh here's the deal i'll make with you you tell me when and let's bring the moms in 1.00

00:12:39.140 you if you bring voices in i will air it i will put it on my radio show it'll go across the country and

00:12:45.780 online millions will hear them you tell me when you can gather them together and also pick a go online

00:12:53.220 in 1776 year 9th you'll see our book that's coming out that's come out on the 15th of may

00:12:59.540 it's called red white and black it's a compilation of all of our essays it it it it gives a lie to the

00:13:06.900 to the uh to the fact that that we are told that the problems of outer wedlock birth violence in the

00:13:13.860 black community is a consequence of a legacy of slavery and discrimination and jim crow and it's not true

00:13:22.660 but a lot of people believe it because they don't have the facts so our essays if you if you're if

00:13:28.500 your listeners would go read our essays it will give them the kind of information that they need

00:13:36.340 to push back against it but where the where people on the right have missed the boat glenn is frankly

00:13:43.780 they think the problem is just information and a lot of our think tanks are just pushing out papers

00:13:48.900 condemning what the left is doing with the woodson center we believe you must show examples of

00:13:56.500 american virtues and values and actions amen see how when when whites were at their worst we were at our

00:14:03.620 best we have pictures of hospitals a hundred schools and colleges were built by the 1930s in america we have

00:14:12.180 hotels we have our own railroad so these stories of blacks achieving against the odds will show and give

00:14:20.660 evidence that america is one of the greatest countries on earth because even people who were uh suffered the

00:14:29.460 sting of slavery were never defined by that oppressive system that they were defined by resilience

00:14:37.140 and and and and and and and the desire to a self-sufficiency i think you know bob i was i was

00:14:45.300 talking to an atheist um a few months ago and i said to him i hate to use this word i said because i know you

00:14:52.340 don't believe in in god uh but it is the only word that i can use to describe what's happening right now

00:14:59.620 especially with critical race theory it is evil because it it is trying to break the spirit of

00:15:07.780 people and once you break the spirit of them there's nothing left and and that's what i feel like is

00:15:14.580 happening all across america there is this attempt to break the spirit of whites of blacks of anyone

00:15:22.260 saying you can't do it which is the opposite of what god teaches it's the opposite of of everything

00:15:30.500 america is supposed to be and and has set out to be it doesn't break the spirit it only does that when

00:15:39.060 it's at its absolute worst and that's what we're pushing right now is just this you can't even have

00:15:46.500 salvation by yourself you really can't but you see glenn the left derives this moral authority

00:15:56.020 as being the legitimate representative of so-called marginalized groups but when those mothers and

00:16:02.500 others begin to stand up and say they don't speak for us then you're going to see the resistance

00:16:09.620 change but you see we've got to stand a pharaoh joseph relationship a a pact but but there's nothing 0.87

00:16:20.340 worse than self-flagellating guilty white people and rich angry black people who profit off the misery of 0.91

00:16:29.940 their people i call sharpen and some of those are doing is worse than bigotry it's 0.99

00:16:39.380 treason it's moral treason against their own people that the only time you hear about them is when 0.95

00:16:47.300 a white police officer kills a black person and that happens maybe 20 or 21 times a year 0.99

00:16:57.300 but 6 000 blacks are killed each year by other blacks so in other words the message is black lives only 0.99

00:17:05.860 matter when it's taken by someone white which means that you're betraying the black community when you 0.98

00:17:12.100 turn the back on 20 children that are slaughtered and you don't march in that community and demand

00:17:18.500 that those killers be turned over to the police so bob you're the president of the united states

00:17:25.140 just go with me for a second and you have uh you have the ability to enact any kind of program or

00:17:32.500 anything what is it that you say the would help the black community with the incredible crime and death 1.00

00:17:43.140 rate in the black community first of all i would say the problem is not racial

00:17:48.500 the problem is the challenge of upward mobility anytime you generalize about a group of people

00:17:57.540 blacks whites native american and then you try to apply remedies it always benefits those at the top 0.92

00:18:05.620 at the expense of those at the bottom coca-cola offering jobs for black lawyers 0.98

00:18:12.660 a certain percentage what does that have to do with the black mother in public housing it's a bait and 1.00

00:18:19.220 switch game where you're using the demographics of the worst of these to give resources that helps the

00:18:26.500 best of these or the or those who are prospering at the top and so if i was president i would say an

00:18:34.980 end to the race grievance business that america should concentrate on the moral and spiritual

00:18:42.340 free fall that is consuming people at the bottom you look at the the the uh whites i had a seminar 0.85

00:18:51.780 with jd vance and clarence page and the purpose is to desegregate poverty that the that the challenges

00:19:01.380 facing low-income whites in appalachia are the same challenges facing inner-city blacks but but at least on 0.97

00:19:08.980 both sides keep them divided and so what we're trying to do at the woodson center is bring about

00:19:16.020 a multi-racial coalition based upon the strategies to overcome brokenness in our lives so when we bring

00:19:26.180 together our grassroots leaders as we have over the years from 39 states 2 000 of them we bring them

00:19:32.340 together in 40 years there's never been any racial conflict because when you're a drug addict you're

00:19:39.940 not a black junkie or white junkie or brown you just a junkie 1.00

00:19:47.540 and your challenge is how to overcome this challenge in your life and so what i would do is bring americans 0.74

00:19:57.780 together where we concentrate on upward mobility for those who are struggling at the bottom

00:20:06.420 bob i would bet that there are a lot of americans who think and i don't care what color that is

00:20:13.220 that they are really oppressed right now that they just are so oppressed and they just can't make it

00:20:17.780 it you actually lived through uh some dark days in america um and you were there when the civil rights

00:20:28.580 movement was happening you were part of it tell people who think they're suffering now

00:20:35.380 what you went through and what others went through what was that about in the 1960s well in the 1950s

00:20:43.300 i was in the military station in mississippi and in florida holy cow when uh you had the big water

00:20:53.140 fountains blacks only uh white drinking fountains when you were more afraid of the police than you were 0.57

00:21:01.060 the clan you live in a state of anarchy i was arrested twice in a small town of florida because i was 0.97

00:21:09.860 raising civil rights issues on the base and they would conspire with the local police so i would

00:21:15.540 come through on friday night going 10 miles under the speed limit and i'd be pulled over and thrown in

00:21:22.100 a nasty jail because i couldn't come up with 35 bond and they always did it the weekend before payday

00:21:31.940 because they knew it would be difficult for your friends to raise that kind of money on a military base

00:21:37.780 and i remember being in a cell a hot cell next to the junk tank where roaches are on the floor with

00:21:45.380 a mattress there and hundreds of roaches and you lock your arms around the bars and try to sleep

00:21:52.580 and the blood runs out of your arms and your whole standard of hygiene deteriorates to the point

00:21:58.580 where you take the mattress up scoot all of the roaches underneath and put the mattress on and jump on it

00:22:04.580 and then take your coat off and lay down and try to get some sleep jeez i've been through that

00:22:14.980 but i still never gave into bitterness

00:22:20.420 at all because dr king said and i firmly believe it racism and discrimination wasn't bad because it was

00:22:28.740 visited upon blacks by whites it's bad because it was evil and we must come together to fight against evil 0.50

00:22:40.500 i will tell you um me in the last 20 years i've read a lot of about the civil rights and what people did

00:22:47.540 and uh and uh and martin luther king and he was right all the way along he was right

00:22:55.700 and now we're being told the exact opposite we're being told that we should see color we should be

00:23:03.380 anti-racist um and that color does make a difference and and everything that martin luther king worked for

00:23:12.100 and and and taught and died for is all being thrown out the window and it's almost like malcolm x is back

00:23:20.740 before he you know before he realized he was wrong it's almost like he won

00:23:28.260 but you know i saw a uh a tape of bishop sheen 50 years ago his predictions about what's happening

00:23:37.300 today he made said a statement at the end he said that what the eagle does is makes his nest up high

00:23:44.820 and when his chicks get to the point where they need he pushes them out the next and they fall to 0.86

00:23:50.420 the ground and just before they crash comes down picks them back up and tries again until he flies he 0.95

00:23:57.540 says god is doing this to america it's crap we seem to be crashing down but he's going to grab us just 0.51

00:24:05.220 before we fall and we're going to rise again i believe that in my heart but we can only do that 0.97

00:24:13.380 when we come together and link to america's new patriots and trust me they are the low-income blacks 1.00

00:24:20.900 who do not believe that the nuclear family is eurocentric and therefore racist

00:24:26.180 they do not believe in burning bibles they don't believe in burning the flag 0.63

00:24:33.460 so they are the the left is misrepresenting those folks that's why what we're doing at the woodson center

00:24:39.780 is giving voice and a platform for these dissenting voices to stand up to defend themselves and defend

00:24:49.300 this nation but we just need the partnership and the resources to do it well i will tell you this

00:24:56.660 bob i see uh i just saw again today um people in minneapolis black businesses that are right there where

00:25:05.140 the killing happened and uh the police it's a no-go zone for the police now and you know all the blm

00:25:12.340 people are saying don't come don't come and the businesses the black owned businesses are like we've

00:25:16.340 been deserted it is chaos down here right and the police won't come but you know when when a police

00:25:22.580 officer shows up and has to make a decision in 15 seconds getting out of the squad car seeing one

00:25:30.340 girl being kicked in the head by a full-grown adult and then another girl standing over uh uh another 0.99

00:25:38.900 teenager and and brings a knife up and says i'm going to kill you in 15 seconds from getting out of 0.96

00:25:46.180 his car he had to just got decide what the real problem was and it was the person with the knife

00:25:50.180 the family is now suing the police officer the police officer i think was heroic i mean to be able to

00:26:00.180 discern in 15 seconds where the threat was i couldn't have done that um but you know i read a great article

00:26:07.860 from a from a cop who said look we'll come now in emergencies but we don't feel like we're backed at

00:26:15.700 all by anybody so all of the favors you know hey my cat's in the tree or hey this is going on unless

00:26:22.980 it's emergencies we're not going to do anything we're not going to risk our lives to break up

00:26:29.380 something that's happening in your backyard we're just not going to do it and i think they're right

00:26:35.220 but again glenn the people who are suffering are the people in those streets i know

00:26:40.180 they're not the people on on cnn talking about defund the police they do not live in those

00:26:47.780 communities at risk so therefore what we're trying to do is raise the resources so we can begin to honor

00:26:56.660 good police officers we should be looking for examples of police are doing it the way we need to

00:27:03.460 publicly help to uh to support people like that just like with smith college where those uh cafeteria

00:27:12.420 workers were falsely accused of racism well we as 40 blacks stood up in defense of white cafeteria

00:27:22.180 workers who are falsely accused of racism that's the kind of action that must be taken

00:27:31.060 uh to challenge the status quo it is we are we have a go fund me for those workers and we are the

00:27:40.260 first to contribute to them but that's the kind of cross-racial kind of stand that we must take in

00:27:46.260 support of of justice and fairness as you know to paraphrase what you said earlier because it's right

00:27:54.260 not not not because of color but because it's right to do um to stand up against injustice injustice

00:28:04.500 is in and again i mean i'm just you know verbally vomiting what has been said so eloquently before

00:28:11.540 but injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere if injustice is being done to you it's an injustice for me too

00:28:18.500 we have to look at it that way and i i fear we're uh we're not um let's talk a little bit about um

00:28:27.940 the reaction to people on critical race theory when people are having their kids come home

00:28:39.460 and they're talking about what they've been taught in school and it's critical race theory

00:28:44.740 what should the reaction from parents be what should they do what should they say

00:28:51.460 they should express outrage they should do what we we're getting calls every day

00:28:58.260 from parents some of them in austin texas the town of austin they're running for the school board

00:29:04.180 and they're running against the race grievance industry they asked us uh my friend and colleague

00:29:10.660 ian roe who was one of our 1776 scholars we did a two-hour seminar with over 120 parents and others

00:29:21.140 who are looking for an alternative understanding and we and we uh shared with them that what they're what

00:29:28.820 is doing is is damaging to not only black whites but also blacks as well a lot of parents are following

00:29:37.220 it and accepted because they don't know any better and so i think that the fact that there we had such a

00:29:45.460 a a a a positive response to we've had three or four of these seminars that reach hundreds of people

00:29:53.060 so so one answer is really combat these lies with the truth and some of that has to come from people who

00:30:01.140 look like me so that the public understands quite honestly bob i've told i think i told you this

00:30:08.740 over a year ago the answer is the african-american community if if there's going to be an answer it is

00:30:15.940 going to come from the black community saying that's not who we are that's not what we want sit down and

00:30:21.940 shut up well we're organizing such a force that's why we're doing outreach every day uh with our essays 0.51

00:30:30.740 our scholars and it's just not we're not uh glenn presenting alternative arguments we're presenting 0.98

00:30:37.780 alternative narratives we're telling stories to young blacks to to confront the lie that that you are

00:30:46.420 exempt from any personal responsibility because of what happened in slavery that's a lethal message for

00:30:53.620 people because people are motivated to achieve when they see victories that are possible not stop

00:31:00.260 constantly reminding them that somehow that white america must change before you can change 0.65

00:31:08.180 that's the foundation of white supremacy you cannot attack racism by being racist

00:31:14.260 you know i just um i just uh finished a painting of joe lewis uh i'm a i don't know if you know this but

00:31:24.180 i'm a painter and i i finished a painting of joe lewis and i call it the birth of a champion um and he is

00:31:32.500 actually on the mat and the ref is calling him out and max schnelling is is behind him with his arms up

00:31:39.940 and if you would look at the painting you would think well schnelling is the champion this is not

00:31:45.860 a good message no it's because joe lewis it was so easy for him to knock people out knock them out cold

00:31:54.900 when schnelling came who was the you know uh the uber child from nazi germany when he came in lewis

00:32:02.980 thought he's an old man i can knock him out well he went for 12 rounds until schnelling knocked him

00:32:09.220 out the first time because schnelling did the work and found the found the hole in joe lewis's uh

00:32:17.460 fighting strategy uh the second time joe lewis did not take anything for granted and you know his story

00:32:25.620 and he knocked him out in i think two minutes in the next fight um it it takes you know you can lay

00:32:33.940 down on the mat and whine about it or you can get up and apply yourself and really think it through

00:32:41.460 and do the hard work and take the next opportunity to change things but i guess that's my white privilege

00:32:49.140 talking no it's when you mentioned joe lewis i consider him a philosopher because joe lewis says

00:32:55.220 something was very instructive he fought at a time when many of his opponents were racist the judges were

00:33:01.300 racist and so were the fans so joe lewis said when all of the odds are against you never trust your 0.97

00:33:10.020 faith to a decision knock the bastard out that's great that is great so no one has to question so so 0.96

00:33:22.980 the best uh antidote to disrespect is performance well that isn't that really kind of the martin 0.96

00:33:31.700 luther king philosophy too absolutely i mean that's why he was so disciplined in the marches that's why

00:33:37.780 everybody wore ties and jackets you present the absolute best so no one could say anything they

00:33:46.260 they have to knock the narrative out that they're at all uh you know rabble rousers dangerous or anything

00:33:54.100 else you have to be able to see and go rosa parks was not the first person right refused to move to

00:34:01.460 the back of the bus six months before a woman refused but she was nasty to the bus driver she was pregnant 0.98

00:34:08.340 out of wedlock yep and she was drinking she was drunk and they said that is not the proper uh character

00:34:16.740 around which can we can launch a movement but now it seems as though george floyd and look i'm a

00:34:23.940 recovering alcoholic i've changed my life i mean i've made all kinds of mistakes we all have we all have

00:34:29.860 and nobody deserves to be killed for anything but we're making people into heroes that aren't necessarily

00:34:39.620 heroes you know they might be good at making this point that no one should be killed like this yes

00:34:46.820 but we can't dismiss um who the people are and make them into these gods it's just it's incredibly dishonest

00:34:56.900 no it really is and uh and that's why it is important for us to keep our eyes on the prize

00:35:08.100 that's why it's important to cultivate the opportunity for the right messengers to speak for themselves

00:35:18.100 and that's why that's what we're doing at the woodson center the very fact that we had 10 000

00:35:24.340 downloads in the first two weeks of our curriculum from 1776 we have testified before school boards

00:35:33.860 there are a lot of people who are acting out of ignorance and so for them we want to supply them with

00:35:41.540 the right information but again uh glenn the the voices of black mothers united

00:35:48.820 we want to bring them together with the mothers who lost their children in appalachia to to uh uh

00:35:57.940 prescription drugs and the moms in silicon valley where the suicide rate for children is six times the

00:36:08.100 national average

00:36:08.980 i believe that we are trying to bring the moms from appalachia together with the moms

00:36:18.900 black and brown from the inner city who lose their children suicide i mean who homicide and bring them 1.00

00:36:24.180 together with the mothers from uh uh silicon valley because it's different sides of the same coin if you

00:36:34.580 don't value your own life you'll either take it or you'll take your own but that kind of conversation

00:36:43.060 can only take place if we can take race off the table that's why part of the purpose of the woodson center

00:36:51.140 is to de-racialize race and desegregate poverty that's our goal is that why martin luther king

00:37:02.020 um march with a sign i am a man yes just so it's i'm a human i'm not i'm not black i'm not white i'm just a human

00:37:15.860 that's what he did but he also demonstrated radical grace the very fact that his he his wife escaped his

00:37:24.980 home almost burned up and he's surrounded by 200 armed blacks who are ready to tear the city apart 1.00

00:37:36.100 and even in the face of this horrendous uh challenge king counseled peace

00:37:46.580 he led by example it it is the same message that we got from nelson mandela nelson mandela

00:37:54.820 most people in america if you're white you probably don't you know nelson mandela but you don't

00:38:00.900 know what they thought he could do and what i think he he really easily could do he could have set that

00:38:09.300 country on fire and started just slaughter like we've never seen and he he did the exact opposite

00:38:18.340 radical grace um and now we're seeing again the reverse of all of this is this being taught anywhere

00:38:28.180 um bob i mean it is being taught in churches it's being taught in uh not not-for-profit organization

00:38:36.260 by my good friends willie peterson and youngstown ohio pastor gary wyatt and aquan ohio paul

00:38:44.340 riddell in illyria ohio i can give you hundreds of names of people uh that are teaching uh american

00:38:53.460 virtues and action and all but again they are the silent voices they are the josephs that are right

00:39:00.340 and that's why one of my favorite characters that wrote my book the triumphs of joseph think about

00:39:04.980 joseph and dr king joseph was betrayed and sold into slavery by his brothers but in the end he provided

00:39:16.660 the means to save the brothers who betrayed him and the egyptians who enslaved him

00:39:21.620 but if he had succumbed to bitterness and resentment be over everyone would have been well that's the

00:39:31.940 challenge that leadership has today we have to put aside the sins of the past old resentments and old

00:39:40.740 antagonisms and understand that america can only have a prosperous future if we could put aside these

00:39:50.660 differences these antagonisms the birth defects of slavery and discrimination and look ahead

00:40:00.740 the way joseph did he came together with the good pharaoh and together

00:40:09.380 that the country prospered that's what we've got to do today and that's what the woodson center

00:40:14.260 is working on that's our operating model tell me um tell me a little bit about the book uh red white

00:40:22.580 and black um it is a couple give me some of this give me some of the stories from it part of what our

00:40:30.180 essays uh one of our essays for instance looked at the black family they looked at the the the records

00:40:38.420 of six plantations at the end of slavery at the composition of the slave family 75 percent of

00:40:45.860 slave families have a man and a woman raising children many of them formally married right afterwards 0.80

00:40:54.100 and so we document the fact for a hundred years a century blacks had two parent households

00:41:02.500 up into the 60s so what about the wait wait wait before you go on what about the i mean i learned

00:41:10.180 this from roots when i was a kid what about the selling of one parent or another and intentionally

00:41:17.380 splitting those families apart that happened and it doesn't it didn't say that that slavery was horrendous

00:41:23.380 it didn't try to gloss over any of that okay but what our essays essays uh tried to portray is that we

00:41:32.580 were not totally defined by oppressive circumstances frederick douglas said that when he finally started

00:41:43.540 he fought against his slave master and beat him he said on that day i was a

00:41:51.860 a man who who was a slave instead of a slave that was a man right right and so what we tell

00:42:01.460 is that when whites were at their worst we were at our best there were 20 blacks who were born slaves 0.91

00:42:07.780 who died millionaires we tell the story of how they achieved that we tell the story have you seen the

00:42:15.860 latest sorry to interrupt have you seen the latest edition of booker t washington's up from slavery

00:42:20.660 no i haven't okay so i have original copies and then i have one that was printed back in the 90s i think

00:42:29.220 that says in the forward yeah look in the forward in the 90s it started to say some scholars are not

00:42:38.260 sure that this is entirely a true story um that he was uh an actual slave the new one

00:42:48.340 says this is a work of fiction a work of fiction bob

00:42:57.620 well there again 1619 revised our history we're not surprised at that but our scholars and our essays

00:43:05.620 document the fact that in 1920 to 1940 the education gap in the south between whites and blacks closed within

00:43:14.500 six months from three years to six months because of the 4 800 rosenwald booker t schools

00:43:24.100 so we have our essays have all of these successes documented

00:43:29.060 bitty mason a woman who was born a slave 0.83

00:43:32.740 uh 1818 and walked behind a wagon out to salt lake city and then ended up in

00:43:37.460 in what in la and purchased property and died a millionaire she was the founder of the ame church

00:43:44.100 so again we tell so there are five black high schools glenn at the turn of the century

00:43:50.900 in all of our five major cities that had used textbooks 50 students to a class and half the budgets of white

00:43:58.420 schools but every one of those black high schools out tested all of the white schools in those cities

00:44:05.060 cities so it is important for not only black children to understand how we achieved against the odds

00:44:16.180 under these circumstances but it's we but all of america needs to know that blacks were never defined

00:44:24.100 by oppression that it was by resilience and perseverance in the presence of these are important messages

00:44:35.060 that our essays in red white and black tell we are uh uh we're told now that uh asian americans are just

00:44:47.460 embracing the white lie uh and they are they're uh working hard and that's why their their grades are so high

00:44:56.100 i have news for you they're not stealing anything from me or my white neighbors i mean i i look at asian

00:45:02.340 families and say what is that family doing that i should be doing you know there is it is a cultural

00:45:10.340 thing and when it's a good cultural thing it we should try to emulate it i don't care what it is

00:45:16.820 they're doing but they believe in education and you know the some of the asians that i know might be a

00:45:23.620 little intense with their with their kids on on their education but it is a friend of mine and i were

00:45:30.740 just driving down the street and we were just talking about it a friend uh has a child that he

00:45:36.020 just drives and drives and drives and drives and drives and we were talking about how he was almost

00:45:40.820 asian in his in his um uh stance or is uh the way he was doing things um and we discussed so is that a

00:45:51.460 good thing or a bad thing to drive your kids that like that not about race theory says that

00:45:58.740 meritocracy is racist correct and and what they're doing though is in the name of equity they're

00:46:06.740 dumbing down the standards correct look if racism glenn if racism were the the biggest culprit in america

00:46:13.780 then how you explain the fact that 3.5 million black africans and blacks of caribbean descent

00:46:21.940 have a higher marriage rate than whites higher education higher income almost non-existent in our

00:46:30.580 prisons you'd be hard-pressed to find a nigerian or ghanaian in our jails why is it that racism passed

00:46:38.420 over them i don't i why isn't it why isn't it a problem elsewhere i mean i was i was talking to a good

00:46:45.860 friend of yours i'm trying to remember his name uh he's in africa a great guy he was a he was a pastor

00:46:52.020 here in america um and he talks about how america how american uh blacks look at america he said come

00:47:01.860 over here to africa where you know blacks he said until recently everyone knew america was the best

00:47:09.620 chance of success for any any black person anywhere in the world it doesn't get better than than this

00:47:16.340 generally speaking uh he said now he's afraid that americans have so bought into this and are

00:47:22.980 just sharing this everywhere that they are actually they're spreading that lie all around the world

00:47:29.700 well when you have your secretary uh un representative saying america is a racist country

00:47:39.140 that's in america but again i i i tell you i am full of uh of optimism i guess because i spend most of

00:47:47.780 my time walking among uh some of the greatest heroes in america and that is my low-income grassroots josephs

00:47:56.980 who have overcome challenges much more difficulty than anything racial and it is because of their

00:48:05.700 resilience and their their example of of of uh perseverance and also their steadfastness that i i

00:48:18.420 am enthusiastic about the future bob if people wanted to get involved with you how do they do it

00:48:25.700 they can get our website is is uh woodsoncenter.org or go on our 1776 units with an s dot com and

00:48:38.100 there's a donate button but you can also my book uh lessons from the least of these is out and it gives

00:48:45.700 you a step-by-step uh understanding of how to properly uh understand uh the race and poverty situation uh and you

00:48:57.380 can also uh volunteer with us so uh just but but your listeners should help us come and join us okay bob um

00:49:10.420 um i'll have uh somebody in my office reach out you reach out to us when you want to put that together

00:49:17.700 i will dedicate the air time to you and i'd love to hear these i'd love to hear from these women 1.00

00:49:23.780 love to hear from them we'll make that happen you got it as always thank you so much god bless you as

00:49:30.660 always god bless you

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 01, 2021

Ep 106 ｜ Segregation Survivor： How to Counter BLM's FALSE Racial Narrative ｜ Bob Woodson ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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