Ep 106 ｜ Segregation Survivor： How to Counter BLM's FALSE Racial Narrative ｜ Bob Woodson ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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On this episode of the Glenbeck podcast, the one and only my good friend Bob Woodson joins me to talk about his new book, Red, Right, and Black: Rescuing American History from Revisionists and Race-Baiters.
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today's guest is a genius certified genius in 1990 he won the macarthur genius grant
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and it has been non-stop his entire life all the odds have always been against him
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but his mother told him to strive for excellence and he did and he has made quite an impact
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you may not know his name but once you meet him you'll never forget him
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it is uh it's a long journey he was a civil rights activist in the 1960s he went to jail he
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devoted his life to improving the lives of low-income people he was also the director of
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the american enterprise institute he founded the national center for neighborhood enterprise he
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founded then the woodson center he is a guy who you probably don't know because he's not out there
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trying to drum up spotlight he's a guy who lives in the communities and does everything he can to
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fix them he is a perfect example of a person with solutions in an era that is inundated with
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difficult questions he goes through all of this and much more in his upcoming book red right and black
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rescuing american history from revisionists and race hustlers today on the glenbeck podcast the one
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and only my good friend bob woodson hello my friend bob how are you i'm just fine man always good to see
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you you're an inspiration oh please uh i wanted to start this podcast with how you inspire other
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people it was the day after the chauvin verdict came in um president or sorry president biden had
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gotten up and said that you know we're a systematically racist country etc etc and a lot of people
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they even agreed uh with the verdict that something was wrong there and he should be punished for it
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a lot of people felt pretty down in the mouth and that morning i came in and the first call i took
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was this call i want you to hear it what the president did yesterday was so irresponsible and
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so i woke up angry and then i called my good friend bob woodson who you've had on your show several
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times and yeah yeah he talked he talked me off the ledge he said we need to do as mother teresa we
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need to increase our faith he and he reminded me of the story of david and goliath and he says we are
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the david he indicated that the low-income black american who's been used as a pawn in all of this
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is our is a sleeping giant and we need to cultivate them and and help them rise up to counter this false
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narrative that's by the way being promoted by people who are probably making six figures or more
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who have made it who have been successful and now crying racism bob woodson i've wanted to talk to you
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ever since that phone call came in uh because i think there's a lot of people that are losing hope
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america is just being beaten down into the ground everything is racist and the people who are the
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race baiters if you will seem to be profiting uh off it and buying houses and nobody's being held
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accountable for it it's shameful what is happening because there are real problems in america that we
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can solve so help us bob help us well the best metaphor for what you're talking about the fact that
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maxine waters left a three million dollar mansion and requested capitol hill police escort
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and she was rallying to the leader of black lives matter that just bought about 3.4 million and
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uh big estates won a three point uh 1.3 mansion in a white neighborhood patrolled by white police officers
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so so what do we do with that information because it's you'll ever meet i know that well that
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marxist as you know always become rich themselves uh once things have turned but the it's almost as
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if we're standing in a country and we're like am i the only one seeing this how come nobody's
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how come nobody else is seeing this but you know what the caller was saying that i believe that the
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sleeping giant are low-income blacks first of all if you look at the numbers 80 percent of low-income
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blacks who are losing their children in this savage carnage that is going on in the inner cities
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as the police are demonized as an extension of the white supremacy and therefore they are pulling back
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in these communities and as a consequence the murder rate is soaring glenn on easter sunday morning
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in birmingham alabama a thousand blacks are picnicking in the park six black thugs discharged 100 bullets
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killing a 32 year old uh a daughter of a local pastor that just finished singing in a church
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and they shot 16 other peoples and killing a four-year-old boy never i never even heard this
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how come i hadn't heard this story and three days after that in syracuse a 32 year old mother was killed
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an 11 month old was was killed and two other toddlers were shot and just two days ago a three-year-old in
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dave county uh was killed at his third birthday and so where is the outrage whereas where and but this goes
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unignoticed but low-income blacks are the ones who are suffering this carnage and they are speaking up
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i think this is the same i mean history just replays and replays and replays until you learn the lesson
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the taking away of guns was a clan thing the um uh making sure that you were boxed off from everyone
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was a clan thing segregation was a clan's thing all of this stuff i look at and i i remember talking to
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black lives matter members who did not read the website they were not marxist they were not they just
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wanted someone to finally listen to them because their community was under attack by their own community
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i had one grandmother say i don't trust my grandson and she said that that's that's new to our community
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and we need help and nobody is actually paying attention this is all politics and all about power and money
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and what do we do to actually help the people who need help um because honestly we're demonized
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you're white if bob you know this i go into a black community i'm going to be called all kinds of
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names and i'm only doing it because of this or that you can't be charitable and white you can't go
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actually and help people but but glenn you see but they do the voices of dissent who are protesting
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they do not represent the majority of black opinions the woodson center we have we have organized
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2 500 black mothers voices of black mothers united who all lost children to urban violence
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they took out a full page ad saying we support the police they just had a conference in birmingham
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where half of the participants were police officers so that they were demonstrating their
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common community with the police and so there are other uh neighborhood organizations around the
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country 60 percent of blacks polled do not believe that racial discrimination is their principal barrier
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but you would never know that by listening to the people that the left-wing media puts on as
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spokesperson for the black community you know i don't know if you saw 60 minutes but in with 60 minutes
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uh they interviewed um um what's his name the the um attorney general in uh keith ellison in minnesota
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yeah and he he he said and this is one question i've been asking the whole time look i think
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chauvin what he did was wrong i think he should be punished i think he should go to jail i wasn't in
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the jury box i also don't know minnesota law so i don't know what he should have gotten but i'm fine
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i trust the jury and the system to get it right um however i've been asking the they nobody even brought
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up that he was a racist in the trial nobody brought up any evidence that this had anything to do with
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race so why have we even been talking about race when it comes to chauvin that was not even even
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keith ellison said no not a shred of evidence this had anything to do with color well then what are we
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the president himself is pushing this narrative even in the shooting in columbus ohio the first
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thing he says well we know the systemic what is systemic racism i don't know what it is and i live
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through segregation and in fact i'll tell you i would i would almost rather deal with an honest bigot
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from the 60s than to deal with the kind of patronizing uh uh pandering that they're doing
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that really uh is destroying our community from within but there are elements pushing back against
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it we've got voices of black mothers we've got uh thousands of people who are who are longing for
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a decent education for their children choice and education we released our first uh series of of uh of
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curriculum for for uh curriculum to counter 1619 we had 10 000 downloads and when we we testified before
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two boards of education a lot of people are being misled and hoodwinked by this racial all of us want
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freedom and justice uh for everybody and justice but the left is is really a weaponizing race and and so
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that's why it's important we're raising the resources necessary to give voice to the voiceless
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people in these communities who are losing their children there have been 70 people killed since
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george floyd you wouldn't know about it 20 of them were children and so what we need to do is we need to
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counter this false racial narrative with examples of resilience of perseverance in the black community
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that really defines uh the the content of our lives so then how can we help empower you because
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there's a lot of americans white black asian doesn't matter there's a lot of americans that are tired of
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this and want to do something positive and and help people who are actually helping so how can we help empower
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you what you can help do is walk with us we need funding we need your ability to what you're doing
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right now is giving us a platform i would love to bring some of those the voices of black mothers united
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on i'd love you got it to have some of them so there are a lot of powerful voices uh out there who believe
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as i believe in the in the in the content of this america america's character and we are we are patriots
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but we need to come together uh and and provide the the means for us to speak the truth to power
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so we need the kind of partnerships the pharaoh i call it the pharaoh joseph relationships
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uh so here's the uh here's the deal i'll make with you you tell me when and let's bring the moms in
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you if you bring voices in i will air it i will put it on my radio show it'll go across the country and
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online millions will hear them you tell me when you can gather them together and also pick a go online
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in 1776 year 9th you'll see our book that's coming out that's come out on the 15th of may
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it's called red white and black it's a compilation of all of our essays it it it it gives a lie to the
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to the uh to the fact that that we are told that the problems of outer wedlock birth violence in the
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black community is a consequence of a legacy of slavery and discrimination and jim crow and it's not true
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but a lot of people believe it because they don't have the facts so our essays if you if you're if
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your listeners would go read our essays it will give them the kind of information that they need
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to push back against it but where the where people on the right have missed the boat glenn is frankly
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they think the problem is just information and a lot of our think tanks are just pushing out papers
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condemning what the left is doing with the woodson center we believe you must show examples of
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american virtues and values and actions amen see how when when whites were at their worst we were at our
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best we have pictures of hospitals a hundred schools and colleges were built by the 1930s in america we have
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hotels we have our own railroad so these stories of blacks achieving against the odds will show and give
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evidence that america is one of the greatest countries on earth because even people who were uh suffered the
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sting of slavery were never defined by that oppressive system that they were defined by resilience
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and and and and and and and the desire to a self-sufficiency i think you know bob i was i was
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talking to an atheist um a few months ago and i said to him i hate to use this word i said because i know you
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don't believe in in god uh but it is the only word that i can use to describe what's happening right now
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especially with critical race theory it is evil because it it is trying to break the spirit of
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people and once you break the spirit of them there's nothing left and and that's what i feel like is
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happening all across america there is this attempt to break the spirit of whites of blacks of anyone
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saying you can't do it which is the opposite of what god teaches it's the opposite of of everything
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america is supposed to be and and has set out to be it doesn't break the spirit it only does that when
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it's at its absolute worst and that's what we're pushing right now is just this you can't even have
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salvation by yourself you really can't but you see glenn the left derives this moral authority
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as being the legitimate representative of so-called marginalized groups but when those mothers and
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others begin to stand up and say they don't speak for us then you're going to see the resistance
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change but you see we've got to stand a pharaoh joseph relationship a a pact but but there's nothing
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worse than self-flagellating guilty white people and rich angry black people who profit off the misery of
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their people i call sharpen and some of those are doing is worse than bigotry it's
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treason it's moral treason against their own people that the only time you hear about them is when
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a white police officer kills a black person and that happens maybe 20 or 21 times a year
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but 6 000 blacks are killed each year by other blacks so in other words the message is black lives only
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matter when it's taken by someone white which means that you're betraying the black community when you
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turn the back on 20 children that are slaughtered and you don't march in that community and demand
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that those killers be turned over to the police so bob you're the president of the united states
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just go with me for a second and you have uh you have the ability to enact any kind of program or
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anything what is it that you say the would help the black community with the incredible crime and death
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rate in the black community first of all i would say the problem is not racial
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the problem is the challenge of upward mobility anytime you generalize about a group of people
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blacks whites native american and then you try to apply remedies it always benefits those at the top
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at the expense of those at the bottom coca-cola offering jobs for black lawyers
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a certain percentage what does that have to do with the black mother in public housing it's a bait and
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switch game where you're using the demographics of the worst of these to give resources that helps the
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best of these or the or those who are prospering at the top and so if i was president i would say an
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end to the race grievance business that america should concentrate on the moral and spiritual
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free fall that is consuming people at the bottom you look at the the the uh whites i had a seminar
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with jd vance and clarence page and the purpose is to desegregate poverty that the that the challenges
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facing low-income whites in appalachia are the same challenges facing inner-city blacks but but at least on
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both sides keep them divided and so what we're trying to do at the woodson center is bring about
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a multi-racial coalition based upon the strategies to overcome brokenness in our lives so when we bring
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together our grassroots leaders as we have over the years from 39 states 2 000 of them we bring them
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together in 40 years there's never been any racial conflict because when you're a drug addict you're
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not a black junkie or white junkie or brown you just a junkie
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and your challenge is how to overcome this challenge in your life and so what i would do is bring americans
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together where we concentrate on upward mobility for those who are struggling at the bottom
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bob i would bet that there are a lot of americans who think and i don't care what color that is
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that they are really oppressed right now that they just are so oppressed and they just can't make it
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it you actually lived through uh some dark days in america um and you were there when the civil rights
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movement was happening you were part of it tell people who think they're suffering now
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what you went through and what others went through what was that about in the 1960s well in the 1950s
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i was in the military station in mississippi and in florida holy cow when uh you had the big water
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fountains blacks only uh white drinking fountains when you were more afraid of the police than you were
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the clan you live in a state of anarchy i was arrested twice in a small town of florida because i was
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raising civil rights issues on the base and they would conspire with the local police so i would
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come through on friday night going 10 miles under the speed limit and i'd be pulled over and thrown in
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a nasty jail because i couldn't come up with 35 bond and they always did it the weekend before payday
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because they knew it would be difficult for your friends to raise that kind of money on a military base
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and i remember being in a cell a hot cell next to the junk tank where roaches are on the floor with
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a mattress there and hundreds of roaches and you lock your arms around the bars and try to sleep
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and the blood runs out of your arms and your whole standard of hygiene deteriorates to the point
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where you take the mattress up scoot all of the roaches underneath and put the mattress on and jump on it
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and then take your coat off and lay down and try to get some sleep jeez i've been through that
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at all because dr king said and i firmly believe it racism and discrimination wasn't bad because it was
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visited upon blacks by whites it's bad because it was evil and we must come together to fight against evil
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i will tell you um me in the last 20 years i've read a lot of about the civil rights and what people did
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and uh and uh and martin luther king and he was right all the way along he was right
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and now we're being told the exact opposite we're being told that we should see color we should be
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anti-racist um and that color does make a difference and and everything that martin luther king worked for
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and and and taught and died for is all being thrown out the window and it's almost like malcolm x is back
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before he you know before he realized he was wrong it's almost like he won
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but you know i saw a uh a tape of bishop sheen 50 years ago his predictions about what's happening
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today he made said a statement at the end he said that what the eagle does is makes his nest up high
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and when his chicks get to the point where they need he pushes them out the next and they fall to
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the ground and just before they crash comes down picks them back up and tries again until he flies he
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says god is doing this to america it's crap we seem to be crashing down but he's going to grab us just
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before we fall and we're going to rise again i believe that in my heart but we can only do that
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when we come together and link to america's new patriots and trust me they are the low-income blacks
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who do not believe that the nuclear family is eurocentric and therefore racist
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they do not believe in burning bibles they don't believe in burning the flag
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so they are the the left is misrepresenting those folks that's why what we're doing at the woodson center
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is giving voice and a platform for these dissenting voices to stand up to defend themselves and defend
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this nation but we just need the partnership and the resources to do it well i will tell you this
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bob i see uh i just saw again today um people in minneapolis black businesses that are right there where
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the killing happened and uh the police it's a no-go zone for the police now and you know all the blm
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people are saying don't come don't come and the businesses the black owned businesses are like we've
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been deserted it is chaos down here right and the police won't come but you know when when a police
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officer shows up and has to make a decision in 15 seconds getting out of the squad car seeing one
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girl being kicked in the head by a full-grown adult and then another girl standing over uh uh another
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teenager and and brings a knife up and says i'm going to kill you in 15 seconds from getting out of
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his car he had to just got decide what the real problem was and it was the person with the knife
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the family is now suing the police officer the police officer i think was heroic i mean to be able to
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discern in 15 seconds where the threat was i couldn't have done that um but you know i read a great article
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from a from a cop who said look we'll come now in emergencies but we don't feel like we're backed at
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all by anybody so all of the favors you know hey my cat's in the tree or hey this is going on unless
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it's emergencies we're not going to do anything we're not going to risk our lives to break up
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something that's happening in your backyard we're just not going to do it and i think they're right
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but again glenn the people who are suffering are the people in those streets i know
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they're not the people on on cnn talking about defund the police they do not live in those
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communities at risk so therefore what we're trying to do is raise the resources so we can begin to honor
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good police officers we should be looking for examples of police are doing it the way we need to
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publicly help to uh to support people like that just like with smith college where those uh cafeteria
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workers were falsely accused of racism well we as 40 blacks stood up in defense of white cafeteria
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workers who are falsely accused of racism that's the kind of action that must be taken
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uh to challenge the status quo it is we are we have a go fund me for those workers and we are the
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first to contribute to them but that's the kind of cross-racial kind of stand that we must take in
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support of of justice and fairness as you know to paraphrase what you said earlier because it's right
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not not not because of color but because it's right to do um to stand up against injustice injustice
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is in and again i mean i'm just you know verbally vomiting what has been said so eloquently before
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but injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere if injustice is being done to you it's an injustice for me too
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we have to look at it that way and i i fear we're uh we're not um let's talk a little bit about um
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the reaction to people on critical race theory when people are having their kids come home
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and they're talking about what they've been taught in school and it's critical race theory
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what should the reaction from parents be what should they do what should they say
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they should express outrage they should do what we we're getting calls every day
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from parents some of them in austin texas the town of austin they're running for the school board
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and they're running against the race grievance industry they asked us uh my friend and colleague
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ian roe who was one of our 1776 scholars we did a two-hour seminar with over 120 parents and others
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who are looking for an alternative understanding and we and we uh shared with them that what they're what
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is doing is is damaging to not only black whites but also blacks as well a lot of parents are following
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it and accepted because they don't know any better and so i think that the fact that there we had such a
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a a a a positive response to we've had three or four of these seminars that reach hundreds of people
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so so one answer is really combat these lies with the truth and some of that has to come from people who
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look like me so that the public understands quite honestly bob i've told i think i told you this
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over a year ago the answer is the african-american community if if there's going to be an answer it is
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going to come from the black community saying that's not who we are that's not what we want sit down and
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shut up well we're organizing such a force that's why we're doing outreach every day uh with our essays
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our scholars and it's just not we're not uh glenn presenting alternative arguments we're presenting
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alternative narratives we're telling stories to young blacks to to confront the lie that that you are
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exempt from any personal responsibility because of what happened in slavery that's a lethal message for
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people because people are motivated to achieve when they see victories that are possible not stop
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constantly reminding them that somehow that white america must change before you can change
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that's the foundation of white supremacy you cannot attack racism by being racist
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you know i just um i just uh finished a painting of joe lewis uh i'm a i don't know if you know this but
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i'm a painter and i i finished a painting of joe lewis and i call it the birth of a champion um and he is
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actually on the mat and the ref is calling him out and max schnelling is is behind him with his arms up
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and if you would look at the painting you would think well schnelling is the champion this is not
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a good message no it's because joe lewis it was so easy for him to knock people out knock them out cold
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when schnelling came who was the you know uh the uber child from nazi germany when he came in lewis
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thought he's an old man i can knock him out well he went for 12 rounds until schnelling knocked him
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out the first time because schnelling did the work and found the found the hole in joe lewis's uh
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fighting strategy uh the second time joe lewis did not take anything for granted and you know his story
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and he knocked him out in i think two minutes in the next fight um it it takes you know you can lay
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down on the mat and whine about it or you can get up and apply yourself and really think it through
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and do the hard work and take the next opportunity to change things but i guess that's my white privilege
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talking no it's when you mentioned joe lewis i consider him a philosopher because joe lewis says
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something was very instructive he fought at a time when many of his opponents were racist the judges were
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racist and so were the fans so joe lewis said when all of the odds are against you never trust your
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faith to a decision knock the bastard out that's great that is great so no one has to question so so
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the best uh antidote to disrespect is performance well that isn't that really kind of the martin
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luther king philosophy too absolutely i mean that's why he was so disciplined in the marches that's why
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everybody wore ties and jackets you present the absolute best so no one could say anything they
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they have to knock the narrative out that they're at all uh you know rabble rousers dangerous or anything
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else you have to be able to see and go rosa parks was not the first person right refused to move to
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the back of the bus six months before a woman refused but she was nasty to the bus driver she was pregnant
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out of wedlock yep and she was drinking she was drunk and they said that is not the proper uh character
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around which can we can launch a movement but now it seems as though george floyd and look i'm a
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recovering alcoholic i've changed my life i mean i've made all kinds of mistakes we all have we all have
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and nobody deserves to be killed for anything but we're making people into heroes that aren't necessarily
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heroes you know they might be good at making this point that no one should be killed like this yes
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but we can't dismiss um who the people are and make them into these gods it's just it's incredibly dishonest
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no it really is and uh and that's why it is important for us to keep our eyes on the prize
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that's why it's important to cultivate the opportunity for the right messengers to speak for themselves
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and that's why that's what we're doing at the woodson center the very fact that we had 10 000
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downloads in the first two weeks of our curriculum from 1776 we have testified before school boards
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there are a lot of people who are acting out of ignorance and so for them we want to supply them with
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the right information but again uh glenn the the voices of black mothers united
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we want to bring them together with the mothers who lost their children in appalachia to to uh uh
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prescription drugs and the moms in silicon valley where the suicide rate for children is six times the
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i believe that we are trying to bring the moms from appalachia together with the moms
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black and brown from the inner city who lose their children suicide i mean who homicide and bring them
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together with the mothers from uh uh silicon valley because it's different sides of the same coin if you
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don't value your own life you'll either take it or you'll take your own but that kind of conversation
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can only take place if we can take race off the table that's why part of the purpose of the woodson center
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is to de-racialize race and desegregate poverty that's our goal is that why martin luther king
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um march with a sign i am a man yes just so it's i'm a human i'm not i'm not black i'm not white i'm just a human
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that's what he did but he also demonstrated radical grace the very fact that his he his wife escaped his
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home almost burned up and he's surrounded by 200 armed blacks who are ready to tear the city apart
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and even in the face of this horrendous uh challenge king counseled peace
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he led by example it it is the same message that we got from nelson mandela nelson mandela
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most people in america if you're white you probably don't you know nelson mandela but you don't
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know what they thought he could do and what i think he he really easily could do he could have set that
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country on fire and started just slaughter like we've never seen and he he did the exact opposite
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radical grace um and now we're seeing again the reverse of all of this is this being taught anywhere
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um bob i mean it is being taught in churches it's being taught in uh not not-for-profit organization
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by my good friends willie peterson and youngstown ohio pastor gary wyatt and aquan ohio paul
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riddell in illyria ohio i can give you hundreds of names of people uh that are teaching uh american
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virtues and action and all but again they are the silent voices they are the josephs that are right
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and that's why one of my favorite characters that wrote my book the triumphs of joseph think about
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joseph and dr king joseph was betrayed and sold into slavery by his brothers but in the end he provided
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the means to save the brothers who betrayed him and the egyptians who enslaved him
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but if he had succumbed to bitterness and resentment be over everyone would have been well that's the
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challenge that leadership has today we have to put aside the sins of the past old resentments and old
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antagonisms and understand that america can only have a prosperous future if we could put aside these
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differences these antagonisms the birth defects of slavery and discrimination and look ahead
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the way joseph did he came together with the good pharaoh and together
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that the country prospered that's what we've got to do today and that's what the woodson center
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is working on that's our operating model tell me um tell me a little bit about the book uh red white
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and black um it is a couple give me some of this give me some of the stories from it part of what our
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essays uh one of our essays for instance looked at the black family they looked at the the the records
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of six plantations at the end of slavery at the composition of the slave family 75 percent of
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slave families have a man and a woman raising children many of them formally married right afterwards
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and so we document the fact for a hundred years a century blacks had two parent households
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up into the 60s so what about the wait wait wait before you go on what about the i mean i learned
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this from roots when i was a kid what about the selling of one parent or another and intentionally
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splitting those families apart that happened and it doesn't it didn't say that that slavery was horrendous
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it didn't try to gloss over any of that okay but what our essays essays uh tried to portray is that we
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were not totally defined by oppressive circumstances frederick douglas said that when he finally started
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he fought against his slave master and beat him he said on that day i was a
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a man who who was a slave instead of a slave that was a man right right and so what we tell
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is that when whites were at their worst we were at our best there were 20 blacks who were born slaves
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who died millionaires we tell the story of how they achieved that we tell the story have you seen the
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latest sorry to interrupt have you seen the latest edition of booker t washington's up from slavery
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no i haven't okay so i have original copies and then i have one that was printed back in the 90s i think
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that says in the forward yeah look in the forward in the 90s it started to say some scholars are not
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sure that this is entirely a true story um that he was uh an actual slave the new one
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says this is a work of fiction a work of fiction bob
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well there again 1619 revised our history we're not surprised at that but our scholars and our essays
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document the fact that in 1920 to 1940 the education gap in the south between whites and blacks closed within
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six months from three years to six months because of the 4 800 rosenwald booker t schools
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so we have our essays have all of these successes documented
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uh 1818 and walked behind a wagon out to salt lake city and then ended up in
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in what in la and purchased property and died a millionaire she was the founder of the ame church
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so again we tell so there are five black high schools glenn at the turn of the century
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in all of our five major cities that had used textbooks 50 students to a class and half the budgets of white
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schools but every one of those black high schools out tested all of the white schools in those cities
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cities so it is important for not only black children to understand how we achieved against the odds
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under these circumstances but it's we but all of america needs to know that blacks were never defined
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by oppression that it was by resilience and perseverance in the presence of these are important messages
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that our essays in red white and black tell we are uh uh we're told now that uh asian americans are just
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embracing the white lie uh and they are they're uh working hard and that's why their their grades are so high
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i have news for you they're not stealing anything from me or my white neighbors i mean i i look at asian
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families and say what is that family doing that i should be doing you know there is it is a cultural
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thing and when it's a good cultural thing it we should try to emulate it i don't care what it is
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they're doing but they believe in education and you know the some of the asians that i know might be a
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little intense with their with their kids on on their education but it is a friend of mine and i were
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just driving down the street and we were just talking about it a friend uh has a child that he
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just drives and drives and drives and drives and drives and we were talking about how he was almost
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asian in his in his um uh stance or is uh the way he was doing things um and we discussed so is that a
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good thing or a bad thing to drive your kids that like that not about race theory says that
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meritocracy is racist correct and and what they're doing though is in the name of equity they're
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dumbing down the standards correct look if racism glenn if racism were the the biggest culprit in america
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then how you explain the fact that 3.5 million black africans and blacks of caribbean descent
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have a higher marriage rate than whites higher education higher income almost non-existent in our
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prisons you'd be hard-pressed to find a nigerian or ghanaian in our jails why is it that racism passed
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over them i don't i why isn't it why isn't it a problem elsewhere i mean i was i was talking to a good
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friend of yours i'm trying to remember his name uh he's in africa a great guy he was a he was a pastor
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here in america um and he talks about how america how american uh blacks look at america he said come
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over here to africa where you know blacks he said until recently everyone knew america was the best
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chance of success for any any black person anywhere in the world it doesn't get better than than this
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generally speaking uh he said now he's afraid that americans have so bought into this and are
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just sharing this everywhere that they are actually they're spreading that lie all around the world
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well when you have your secretary uh un representative saying america is a racist country
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that's in america but again i i i tell you i am full of uh of optimism i guess because i spend most of
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my time walking among uh some of the greatest heroes in america and that is my low-income grassroots josephs
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who have overcome challenges much more difficulty than anything racial and it is because of their
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resilience and their their example of of of uh perseverance and also their steadfastness that i i
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am enthusiastic about the future bob if people wanted to get involved with you how do they do it
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they can get our website is is uh woodsoncenter.org or go on our 1776 units with an s dot com and
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there's a donate button but you can also my book uh lessons from the least of these is out and it gives
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you a step-by-step uh understanding of how to properly uh understand uh the race and poverty situation uh and you
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can also uh volunteer with us so uh just but but your listeners should help us come and join us okay bob um
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um i'll have uh somebody in my office reach out you reach out to us when you want to put that together
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i will dedicate the air time to you and i'd love to hear these i'd love to hear from these women
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love to hear from them we'll make that happen you got it as always thank you so much god bless you as
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