The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 118 ｜ Fake Feminists Ignore Islam's Jihad Against Women ｜ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 It isn't very often I can say to you, I am going to sit down and talk with one of my

00:00:10.980 heroes, one of the world's heroes, somebody who I think is, should be listened to more.

00:00:22.440 I'm excited for you to take this journey with me.

00:00:25.780 Everybody, everybody goes through hardship in life.

00:00:28.860 Everybody.

00:00:30.000 Some suffer more than others and some suffer unimaginable pain, but it is it's what you

00:00:37.700 do with that that makes all the difference.

00:00:42.420 Today's guest fits into the last category of unbelievable hardship and pain.

00:00:48.440 Her life has been marked with pain that you and I can't understand.

00:00:53.740 Forced genital mutilation when she was five years old, she was promised to be a bride. 0.97

00:00:59.540 She escaped from her family.

00:01:02.560 I mean, it's her story is amazing.

00:01:05.600 But what she did with all of this is remarkable.

00:01:10.340 She has channeled it into political, social, cultural and academic change.

00:01:17.120 She committed the sin of criticizing Islam and defending women's rights and exposing the excesses of mass migration over in Europe. 0.96

00:01:29.680 When she was a minister of parliament, she was a refugee who got off an airplane, changed her clothes and didn't take the the next flight where she was going to be married off to some man.

00:01:43.980 She didn't know.

00:01:44.980 And then she found herself studying, learning the language and becoming a member of parliament.

00:01:50.300 It doesn't matter that she has direct experience with Islam.

00:01:55.480 It doesn't matter that she was born in Somalia, grew up in Saudi Arabia.

00:01:59.800 It doesn't seem to matter that she has firsthand experience and she's a refugee herself who believes in taking in refugees.

00:02:09.060 It doesn't matter that she's an experience.

00:02:11.980 She's experienced horrific sexual violence as a woman.

00:02:17.300 It doesn't matter that she was a member of Dutch parliament. 0.99

00:02:21.220 She's, I don't know, an infidel, a heretic, an enemy of Islam, an enemy of freedom, an enemy of mankind, an enemy of peace, love, joy, little puppy dogs and butterflies. 1.00

00:02:33.720 According to the left and its powerful institutions, she's a bigot, which is strange because she's literally a woman who has won a slew of prizes by liberal groups, including the Tolerance Prize and the Freedom Prize. 0.94

00:02:52.360 Well, she spent some time writing a new book called Prey, not with an A, with an E, P-R-E-Y, Immigration, Islam and the Erosion of Women's Rights.

00:03:02.180 It's a very timely book right now.

00:03:06.320 It reveals the threat that Islam poses to women's rights and liberal democracy. 1.00

00:03:11.640 And I think we have to start with a little bit of what's going on in Afghanistan.

00:03:17.920 Today, I am thrilled to say our guest, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

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00:04:56.340 I don't know if you, if you know this, but you are one of my heroes.

00:05:05.240 Um, you are one of the most remarkable women living today, uh, for your, your bravery.

00:05:14.660 I mean, I, I, I remember you when I first interviewed you about 2006, I was at CNN and I think you may

00:05:25.500 have just been visiting America at the time.

00:05:28.720 Do I have that right?

00:05:30.720 I think you have that right.

00:05:32.100 Yes.

00:05:32.460 I think it was right about that time and you are still with CNN and Glenn, by the admiration

00:05:37.900 is mutual.

00:05:38.780 Thank you very much for having me.

00:05:40.300 Oh my gosh.

00:05:40.740 You bet.

00:05:41.500 Um, it is, um, it's an interesting time for you to be publishing this book called pray.

00:05:47.080 Uh, and that's not with an A that's with an E.

00:05:50.140 Um, and I, I want to start instead of in Afghanistan.

00:05:54.240 Um, I, I, I want to start with something because we're right now engaged in, um, trying

00:06:04.600 to save people in Afghanistan, women and children and, and Christians and homosexuals and everyone.

00:06:11.880 Um, and we can't seem to get any, uh, buddy from the national organization of women from

00:06:18.340 glad or anything.

00:06:19.380 They will talk about birthday cakes and wedding cakes all day long, but when it comes to actual

00:06:27.160 life and death, they don't seem to care.

00:06:30.140 It is unfortunate because I think some of these organizations of civil activism, um, have succumbed

00:06:40.500 to identity politics.

00:06:42.100 If glad understands, uh, what they see as the threat to homosexual life, to the LGBT community, 0.98

00:06:52.980 then they will tackle that.

00:06:56.800 But tackling homophobia, um, that is practiced and enshrined in law, Sharia law in Islam, they

00:07:06.820 won't touch that.

00:07:08.000 Uh, but I don't understand.

00:07:09.680 I really, and this is an honest question.

00:07:11.760 I really don't understand.

00:07:13.580 I can't assign anything but ill feelings to this.

00:07:18.040 I've met with glad, uh, in New York about five years ago when they were throwing homosexuals 1.00

00:07:24.620 off the rooftops in Iran.

00:07:26.780 And I said, look, we have so many things we disagree with, but we have got to set an example

00:07:31.940 that people who disagree with each other can stand together on basic life and death issues.

00:07:39.660 And yet I'm called a bigot.

00:07:42.380 They're the hero and they didn't do anything about it, nor would they stand with anyone

00:07:48.080 to do anything about it.

00:07:49.980 And I think that's how identity politics poisons everything.

00:07:55.620 You can't no longer in this country.

00:07:58.880 Uh, and it's not everyone.

00:08:00.460 It's just within those civil rights organizations, corporations, our news media, our politics,

00:08:07.200 the people in these leadership positions are so divided on everything that they can't agree

00:08:14.040 on minimal morality, life and death, as you say.

00:08:18.720 And if you are Glenn Beck, you are seen to be right wing.

00:08:22.640 You are labeled extreme right wing. 0.59

00:08:25.100 You are labeled a white supremacist. 0.52

00:08:28.800 And now that you've been put in this corner, it doesn't matter if you come out and say,

00:08:34.640 I'm actually doing what you guys say you stand for, trying to rescue women, trying to rescue

00:08:40.500 homosexuals, trying to show what it is to be a true American, that when, you know, the 1.00

00:08:46.360 call of help comes and the call of need comes, we respond and we should put our divisions 0.61

00:08:51.080 aside.

00:08:52.020 That's not a part of the identity politics narrative.

00:08:56.100 You never put those divisions aside.

00:08:58.160 That's why it's so poisonous.

00:08:59.460 You know, I feel bad for the soldiers over in Afghanistan because they feel like, you

00:09:06.300 know, was this for nothing?

00:09:07.640 And, and I've thought about this a lot and I don't think it was for nothing.

00:09:13.740 Just for this fact, for 20 years, girls who now are 20 grew up in a time where they saw

00:09:24.080 what life was supposed to be like and the potential and all of that, can you put yourself and

00:09:31.360 take Americans who have never experienced something like this?

00:09:35.160 Is it possible for you to put yourself in the role of one, a girl that would be living

00:09:41.220 in Afghanistan and what life was like in the last 20 years and what they're now facing,

00:09:47.240 what she might be thinking and what's coming her way?

00:09:49.980 Obviously, I don't come from Afghanistan.

00:09:54.320 I have not been to Afghanistan, but I do come from a culture with a similar, similar moral

00:10:01.740 framework.

00:10:02.940 And first of all, I have to contend with the fact that in November, sorry, in September

00:10:08.540 11 of 2001, America was attacked from Afghanistan. 0.99

00:10:13.740 And in response, if I was a young woman living in the country from which the attack came, I

00:10:21.960 would fear and dread that we would be completely destroyed.

00:10:26.000 That's not how America responded.

00:10:28.380 America obviously went after those who plotted the terrorist attacks, but then also came with

00:10:33.860 an agenda of what is it that we can do for the people of Afghanistan?

00:10:37.900 What is it that we can do for the women of Afghanistan?

00:10:40.140 And then that agenda, with a great deal of difficulty and adversity and obstacles, they

00:10:46.640 tried to implement that administration after administration.

00:10:50.420 And that, I think, is the story of America.

00:10:52.480 So for a young woman, whether she lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere, she is going to see this

00:10:58.160 truly as it is.

00:11:00.940 And if you're a young woman who benefited from American presence, you got the opportunity to

00:11:06.300 go to school, you got the opportunity to find a job, you got the opportunity to think of

00:11:10.900 yourself as a human being with individual opportunity.

00:11:15.280 That is the idea that America was trying to promote.

00:11:18.600 Did it completely succeed?

00:11:20.260 No.

00:11:20.620 But was life in Afghanistan better for women in 2021, before this crazy withdrawal, then

00:11:29.140 before 9-11-2001?

00:11:34.060 I would tell you, every Afghan woman who has benefited will say it was much better with 1.00

00:11:40.000 the Americans.

00:11:41.220 There are Afghan girls who are studying technology.

00:11:44.280 There are Afghan women who have become doctors and teachers and politicians.

00:11:48.160 And women who have, in Afghanistan and outside of Afghanistan, who identify as Afghans with

00:11:55.800 the help of the American government, American businesses, American citizens, who have realized

00:12:03.880 a life, you know, with that window of hope that they could actually be something and get

00:12:09.700 to something and see their society form.

00:12:12.200 And then, you know, at a very embryonic stage, an administration came along, very impatient

00:12:19.200 and very inept, and decided to withdraw in this fashion.

00:12:23.560 And that's horrifying, because I don't know how to explain that. 0.80

00:12:26.420 Is there, when you grew up in that situation, and, you know, you were mutilated when you were

00:12:34.620 five, you were promised to be a bride to somebody, and that was the culture.

00:12:38.600 Um, is there a difference between knowing internally, I don't want that, that doesn't feel right

00:12:46.920 to me, and, and knowing, um, because you've grown up in that society, and then having it

00:12:55.940 taken away and forced into you?

00:12:58.020 What, is there a difference between, between those two situations?

00:13:03.620 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:13:04.820 I understand exactly what you're saying.

00:13:08.080 When you're in that situation, you're born into it, it's the culture, it's the tradition,

00:13:12.680 it's the religion, and it's enforced by everyone around you, or almost everyone around you,

00:13:17.560 you know that there is something different.

00:13:19.980 You know that you don't want this constant subjugation and humiliation, but you feel powerless.

00:13:27.320 And then, as in the case of Afghanistan, when a superpower comes along and promises something 0.97

00:13:33.880 different, then you have that little flame of hope, and you feel empowered, and then

00:13:41.380 you do your thing.

00:13:42.760 Now, there are always women and other victims within the old situation, or the situation that's 0.96

00:13:52.060 enforcing the subjugation of women, girls, children, homosexuals, Christians, you name it.

00:13:57.000 There are always people who think, well, this is the devil we know, and we've learned how

00:14:05.400 to cope, and we don't want things to change, who are just terrified of change.

00:14:09.600 And I think to a certain, up to a certain degree, today in Afghanistan, those people will say,

00:14:15.500 the devil of the Taliban, the one that we know, that has prevailed, I told you so. 1.00

00:14:21.080 Americans weren't going to stay.

00:14:22.640 That promise and all that was all fake.

00:14:25.960 So all the narratives that you've ever heard of America, that's now, you know, I don't know

00:14:32.360 how to push back against that, but that's right now what's being peddled, and not just in

00:14:36.960 Afghanistan.

00:14:38.480 That is so frightening. 0.99

00:14:39.620 I don't understand religion that can promise you a child bride, you know, basically pedophilia. 0.98

00:14:57.020 You know, you even have the Afghani Olympic soccer team has been promised.

00:15:04.500 Each one of those girls has been promised to one of the leaders of the Taliban.

00:15:12.140 I don't understand the thinking.

00:15:15.500 Is there, is it just, is it just man covering and going, no, God tells me I can do this, but

00:15:25.060 they, they know it's, you know, they know it's wrong, but they can do it, or do they actually 0.97

00:15:32.200 believe God says, oh no, I can rape this girl all I want and it's fine? 0.99

00:15:40.000 I think it's very difficult to get into people's minds and speculate, but knowing the religion, 0.97

00:15:47.340 because I grew up within that religion, there is no concept of a childhood beyond menstruation.

00:15:54.460 If, as soon as a girl menstruates, she is declared a woman.

00:15:59.340 As soon as a boy transitions into puberty, he's declared a man.

00:16:04.880 And then these roles are pretty much regulated through the creed of Sharia.

00:16:12.120 And yes, these people actually believe and practice that the right thing to do is, and

00:16:20.640 they see it as God's will, that the way to sustain an orderly and righteous society is

00:16:33.240 to marry the girls off as quickly as possible, so that they don't get a chance to commit 0.51

00:16:40.260 to the son of, the sins of fornication and adultery and, and, and those things are seen

00:16:46.200 as precursors to the breakdown of society.

00:16:50.100 And that's the thinking behind the pedophilia that is enshrined in law.

00:16:57.460 So in your book, I love, I love the fact that it is riddled with facts.

00:17:04.260 I mean, it is stats and facts all the way through it.

00:17:08.180 It's clearly not opinion.

00:17:10.500 And yet you are labeled a bigot.

00:17:15.160 And someplace I have one of the New York Times reviews.

00:17:20.700 Here it is.

00:17:21.760 It's a Hersey Alley though.

00:17:24.540 Who exactly does this? 0.98

00:17:26.280 She finds stories of individual Muslim immigrants who commit heinous crimes. 1.00

00:17:30.380 And by suggesting those stories are broadly representative, uses them to justify curtailing

00:17:36.380 the opportunities afforded to the whole group.

00:17:39.100 This is not, as she suggests, a feminism of standing up for the rights of women.

00:17:44.860 It is feminism of reaction. 1.00

00:17:47.600 And one that would undermine the very liberal values Hersey Alley begs feminists to protect. 1.00

00:17:54.740 How do you respond to that?

00:17:56.500 I think we've gotten to a point, you know, 2006, when you and I met, it was, okay, I'm

00:18:05.200 going to respond by trying to show the empirics, the data, the facts.

00:18:10.480 You know, I think her name is Filipovich or something like that.

00:18:13.860 I would say, Ms. Filipovich, don't look away from this.

00:18:16.540 This is really important.

00:18:17.700 Now it's, you know, you think someone is so steeped in that ideology of identity politics

00:18:25.640 and far left notions of social justice that you simply don't respond.

00:18:31.620 And that is, in fact, not good for our society because then we're no longer talking to each

00:18:37.100 other.

00:18:37.340 We're no longer trying to show one another what our perspectives are like.

00:18:42.080 And we're watching the same reality unfold.

00:18:45.040 People, young men, this is the story of the book, are coming from Muslim-majority countries

00:18:51.080 where their relationship and their attitude towards women is radically different from what

00:18:56.440 you find in Europe.

00:18:57.940 That's causing problems for women in Europe. 1.00

00:19:01.020 Immigrant women, working-class women, all women. 0.90

00:19:03.780 That's the new reality.

00:19:05.200 Let's talk about it.

00:19:06.200 But then you get something like this that is dismissive, it's insulting, it's intended

00:19:11.340 to confirm and affirm her own ideological narrative that she is committed to.

00:19:20.700 And she doesn't want to deal with the dissonance of calling herself a feminist on the one hand

00:19:26.280 and on the other hand, ignoring the story that Prey tells.

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00:20:51.280 So let's, let's get into pray here and let's, let's look at what's happened to Europe.

00:21:00.500 Describe what's, what's happening there and what life is like.

00:21:06.560 So life in Europe, I mean, I've only just come from Europe.

00:21:09.720 It's still, these are still wealthy, welfare nations.

00:21:15.320 Their governments are still intact.

00:21:17.040 They are incredibly stable, but they do face a challenge of what, just everything I describe

00:21:25.640 now, the stability, the governments that are intact, the welfare states, these are what

00:21:30.480 they call pull factors.

00:21:32.820 There are millions and millions of people in the world who don't have those things and

00:21:37.600 who want to come to Europe to take a part of that.

00:21:40.860 And yes, a great deal of it is opportunity and it is opportunity for a lot of the people

00:21:45.220 who come.

00:21:46.340 But there's a subset of people who do come from these broken down countries, many of them 1.00

00:21:52.040 men who do have attitudes to women that are very different from those in Europe and then

00:21:59.060 who engage in violent and demeaning behavior towards women.

00:22:02.880 And it's now becoming a big problem.

00:22:06.360 Countries like Austria, Denmark, Sweden, France, Great Britain, they're faced with this conundrum.

00:22:13.820 But we're also living in this philosophical age where only white heterosexual men are capable 0.69

00:22:20.820 of being held accountable for what they not only did wrong now, but what they did wrong

00:22:26.580 in the past.

00:22:27.220 But we're not holding anyone else accountable.

00:22:30.260 So if you're a man from Senegal or Eritrea or Afghanistan or Iraq or Kuwait and you engage

00:22:38.940 in violent behavior against women, it's something we're just going to try and hide away from. 1.00

00:22:45.080 We're not going to address it. 0.92

00:22:46.580 We can't talk about your religion in case you turn into a terrorist.

00:22:49.680 We can't talk about your culture in case you are accusers of colonialism.

00:22:53.440 We're not going to do any of that.

00:22:54.920 We're just going to pretend none of this is happening.

00:22:56.700 And it's it's so bad.

00:22:58.480 I was in Sweden a couple of years ago and it is a it is a separate society.

00:23:06.000 That doesn't mean everyone, but there is a separate and distinct society that does not

00:23:11.620 want to become Swedish and Swedes.

00:23:15.580 They're open to immigrants.

00:23:17.820 They're open to refugees.

00:23:19.800 They that's their culture.

00:23:22.560 And so they're they're really struggling because these people are coming in and they don't want

00:23:27.840 to be Swedes.

00:23:28.720 And in fact, they prey on the Swedes. 1.00

00:23:32.220 And these these women are being raped, killed. 1.00

00:23:38.280 And no one says anything about it. 0.98

00:23:40.540 And everyone knows what the problem is.

00:23:42.440 Well, people are saying things, but it's all, you know, they're grumbling.

00:23:48.900 They again, they are really trying to balance this attitude of wanting to be welcoming and

00:23:54.180 warm and sharing.

00:23:55.640 They understand the privileges that they have in Sweden and they want to share.

00:23:59.920 So the Swedish population is very open to immigrants, providing them with opportunities.

00:24:04.680 But the Swedish leadership, and when I talk about leadership, this is politics.

00:24:09.200 It's media, it's academia, they have created this sort of belt around what you can and can't

00:24:18.680 say, what you're allowed to experience and what you're not allowed to experience.

00:24:22.140 And right now, the prevailing notion is to come out against some of the behaviors, the

00:24:30.520 criminal behaviors, the rapes, the violence towards women, the robberies.

00:24:36.200 There's a lot of crime that goes on in Sweden, perpetrated by immigrants, and the local Swedes 1.00

00:24:42.900 no longer understand what's going on.

00:24:44.940 But their leadership is telling them, if you ask the question, if you say, why is this happening?

00:24:51.580 Why is it not being stopped?

00:24:53.320 That is the definition of xenophobia, racism, and rejectionism.

00:24:59.400 And that no society, no civilization survives that.

00:25:06.200 Well, so then, as I describe in the book, the leadership, not only in Sweden, but broadly

00:25:12.540 across Europe, all over will say, talking about these things will empower the genuine white 0.99

00:25:20.740 supremacists, the far right, the populists.

00:25:24.440 In effect, that's exactly what happens.

00:25:26.380 It's when you don't talk about it, that these fringe groups are, in fact, empowered and emboldened.

00:25:33.960 And so, the only groups in Europe who are addressing these issues in a very serious way are the groups

00:25:39.640 that the establishment leaders are telling us don't listen to.

00:25:43.300 Yeah.

00:25:44.140 They're back.

00:25:45.280 Let's just, and so then we're now in this cycle.

00:25:47.300 It was probably 2004 or 5, I went to Special Forces Command and I spent the day with them

00:25:58.780 and we talked about different things.

00:26:00.740 And I said, what is the thing that you're worried about?

00:26:03.740 And they said, the Bubba effect.

00:26:06.000 Now, I had never heard of that.

00:26:07.460 But that is the theory that, this is 2005, that at some point, the governments of the

00:26:14.800 world will have made so many mistakes and they will have made their own bed as the people

00:26:21.440 will see it.

00:26:22.660 And there's a terrorist attack.

00:26:24.980 And Bubba, who doesn't know a Muslim from a Sikh and a guy with a turban walks in after

00:26:32.860 this big attack and he shoots him.

00:26:35.920 And everybody knows it's wrong.

00:26:37.460 Everybody in the town knows it's wrong.

00:26:39.340 But the FBI comes in and they're saying, we're here for Bubba.

00:26:43.620 And the town rallies around Bubba and says, we'll take care of Bubba.

00:26:49.160 You are part of the problem.

00:26:51.900 Get out.

00:26:53.400 And that's what they were afraid of.

00:26:55.060 And I'm seeing that everywhere in the world.

00:26:58.200 And you're seeing these people who are part of this populist movement, which is both really

00:27:10.040 good and really dangerous at the same time.

00:27:13.780 And it is the elites that are pushing everybody kind of into that because they won't address

00:27:22.280 the problem and they won't say what everybody knows is true.

00:27:28.200 Right.

00:27:31.360 So this is when I came to the West.

00:27:34.380 And if you asked me in 2006, what do you think is the defining feature of Western societies?

00:27:43.140 And people would, some of them would say freedom because that's what they value the most.

00:27:46.900 Others will say democracy because that's what they value the most.

00:27:49.620 Capitalism and so on.

00:27:51.860 I would say the West had achieved a level of responsive government.

00:27:58.980 Governments and elites that respond to and do their best to listen to what it is that

00:28:05.340 the populations that they govern want.

00:28:07.780 Representative government.

00:28:09.740 That is what has, you know, all other societies would like to achieve something like that.

00:28:17.520 And somehow they haven't.

00:28:19.080 We've all seen this as a journey.

00:28:21.120 They call it the development.

00:28:22.340 There is the developed world, which is mostly the West, and the developing world, which would 0.99

00:28:26.580 like to achieve that.

00:28:28.000 What we are seeing now, this bubble effect that you're describing, is that the responsive

00:28:33.820 governments are becoming irresponsive.

00:28:36.880 Yes.

00:28:37.720 Irresponsive.

00:28:39.320 And I will not be surprised then if the populations of the West start to respond to problems like the

00:28:48.200 populations of everywhere else, factionalism, fragmentation, tribalism, religious fanaticism,

00:28:55.860 xenophobia, all of these things.

00:28:58.020 We're now seeing bits and pieces of that all simmering through the surface.

00:29:01.960 But that is, in the end, where you're going to drive these unrepresented populations to. 0.97

00:29:08.620 So how do we deal with this?

00:29:13.300 Because I saw Brexit, and I think I saw it different than so many of the elites and so

00:29:20.580 many of the commentators.

00:29:21.560 I saw Brexit as, look, I love Europe.

00:29:25.340 It's kind of, I live in Texas now, and Texans, you know, get a big name of, you know, well,

00:29:31.360 it ain't Texas.

00:29:32.380 But they don't follow it up with what Texans usually say.

00:29:35.900 It's not Texas, but I'm sure it's a great state.

00:29:38.780 It's got lovely things about it.

00:29:40.320 You know what I mean?

00:29:40.840 But it ain't Texas.

00:29:42.280 They don't hate something else.

00:29:44.880 The people at Brexit, they didn't hate Europe.

00:29:47.680 They wanted to be them, and they wanted to be proud of what they have.

00:29:54.220 And I don't know how, because you're going to have uber nationalists, you will have racism,

00:30:03.660 you will have bad, ill-intent people who will start saying things that are true and leaving

00:30:11.360 out the things that is their real intent, and you will have populations lost.

00:30:19.220 How do we navigate this area where we can speak the truth and yet warn people, don't fall

00:30:30.980 into the trap of who you might be standing next to, because they may not believe the same

00:30:35.820 things you do.

00:30:36.500 Well, I'm glad you brought up Brexit.

00:30:40.300 And remember, the slogan of Brexit in 2016 was, take back control.

00:30:47.880 The people in the UK who wanted Brexit and voted for Brexit felt that they had ceded control

00:30:57.440 to something, an entity, the EU, Brussels, some foreign place, technocrats, they had a list

00:31:05.940 of names of who could that be, but they had ceded control to institutions that they want

00:31:13.400 holding accountable or couldn't hold accountable.

00:31:16.080 And if you then take this to its logical conclusion, if many of these populations get to a point

00:31:25.160 where they think, I can't hold my local government or my provincial or regional government or my

00:31:32.820 national government accountable for any of this stuff that's happening to me, then I'm going

00:31:38.080 to take back control.

00:31:39.180 And really, for most of history, human beings, when they wanted to do that sort of thing,

00:31:46.360 they went back to their kinship, their families, their clans, their tribes.

00:31:50.560 And it's from there that the fragmentation, I think, will come.

00:31:54.240 It is, you are going to find people who are saying, our interests are no longer aligned,

00:31:59.220 because this thing that we call nation state, it doesn't represent me.

00:32:03.680 It represents you more than it represents me.

00:32:06.140 I live in California, and in California, our governor just survived a recall.

00:32:11.660 But if you listen to what the people are complaining about, the hopelessness, the drugs, the crime,

00:32:17.580 all of the things that he has ignored all of these years, and then the response of when

00:32:23.160 he survived the recall, he says, oh, but then the population really likes my policies.

00:32:28.820 That is turning a deaf ear to all of those people who wanted to recall him.

00:32:34.780 That's not a representative government.

00:32:37.200 That is the path to hell.

00:32:39.920 So in your book, you do talk about solutions, but you talk about bogus solutions as well.

00:32:46.220 How do we, I mean, I just don't see good things.

00:32:49.880 Because I'm a student of history, it usually doesn't end well when you get to this point.

00:32:56.640 And it's happening all over the world.

00:33:01.160 How do we, what are some solutions?

00:33:06.020 Bogus solutions are intended to make you feel good.

00:33:11.100 Maybe they make the people who come up with these bogus solutions feel good,

00:33:16.180 but they express contempt for the people whose problems these bogus solutions are intended to solve.

00:33:25.540 Take the examples of, so women are raped, they can't go to concerts in Europe, 1.00

00:33:31.680 and then they come up with wear this bracelet that says.

00:33:37.340 You're vaccinated.

00:33:40.000 Yeah, you're vaccinated.

00:33:42.500 But in this, in the case of violence against women,

00:33:46.320 telling women to wear certain bracelets or avoid certain places,

00:33:50.200 or it's not what you're looking for, right?

00:33:53.620 You, first of all, frighten the whole world into thinking about climate change,

00:34:00.740 accept the premise that climate change is real,

00:34:03.500 and then tell them don't eat meat,

00:34:05.820 or we're going to close your source of economic income,

00:34:10.140 then these are bogus solutions.

00:34:12.460 They don't resolve anything.

00:34:13.760 And they just have the function of the people who are already retreating from the public space,

00:34:20.180 they'll retreat more into their cocoons, the ones who,

00:34:24.640 I'll give you a good example.

00:34:25.940 We talk about gun control in the U.S. endlessly.

00:34:29.120 Ever since I came here, even before I came here,

00:34:31.060 this whole gun control debate never ends.

00:34:34.280 I love hearing that from somebody who just got into it 20 years ago.

00:34:39.840 It's so great to hear.

00:34:41.100 I think, oh gosh, there they go again.

00:34:45.320 But there are countries who have the kind of gun control

00:34:49.600 a radical Democrat can only fantasize about,

00:34:53.620 countries like Sweden.

00:34:54.980 But because the crime in Sweden has gone up,

00:34:58.480 and there's no rule of law,

00:35:00.700 law enforcement has been hamstrung and told,

00:35:03.320 no, you can't go after these criminals.

00:35:05.460 People in Sweden are buying more guns per capita than Americans are.

00:35:16.920 Wow.

00:35:18.580 That's crazy.

00:35:19.880 That is creepy.

00:35:21.220 That should tell every politician in Sweden and beyond,

00:35:24.560 that's not a good development.

00:35:26.840 And that's because if I pay my taxes,

00:35:30.120 the government protects me in exchange for that.

00:35:32.940 Remember the tasks of the government.

00:35:34.380 The government is not protecting me.

00:35:37.040 I'll protect my family.

00:35:38.560 Right.

00:35:38.740 So that's the kind of thinking that is behind all of this.

00:35:43.140 And if governments continue to ignore their populations,

00:35:45.880 then they're inviting this kind of behavior.

00:35:48.660 It is therefore superficial to talk about gun rules

00:35:52.800 and gun sizes and magazine sizes, etc.

00:35:55.540 The real question here is,

00:35:59.220 is the government delivering on the promise

00:36:04.760 and on the contract of the rule of law?

00:36:09.760 Correct.

00:36:10.260 Law enforcement.

00:36:11.600 Law and order.

00:36:12.800 And if the government doesn't deliver on that,

00:36:14.520 people will take the law into their hands.

00:36:16.420 That's taking of the law into your hands.

00:36:18.480 That's not a good thing.

00:36:19.780 No.

00:36:20.120 So, again, I go back to the solution.

00:36:23.360 How do you deprogram that?

00:36:25.080 How do you,

00:36:26.140 because I'm convinced the governments

00:36:28.540 either are so blind,

00:36:31.560 which I don't believe,

00:36:32.620 are so blind to this

00:36:34.080 that they're just going to keep going,

00:36:36.780 or they have a different outcome.

00:36:39.160 I mean, I really, truly believe

00:36:41.040 we are seeing a controlled collapse of the West,

00:36:44.860 in particular, America.

00:36:47.420 We are being dismantled from the inside.

00:36:51.720 So, you know, I'm just,

00:36:55.060 my fear here is,

00:36:57.140 is that people feel the problems.

00:37:00.200 They may not know exactly what it is,

00:37:03.280 but they know it's not good.

00:37:05.180 They know they're not being listened to.

00:37:06.820 They know their rights are being diminished

00:37:09.420 while other people get away with murder.

00:37:12.000 That's not a good recipe.

00:37:14.280 So, what,

00:37:15.560 is there a solution?

00:37:18.040 Is there a Martin Luther King kind of idea?

00:37:21.940 Is there anything that you've come across

00:37:24.040 that you went,

00:37:25.100 if people just can do this,

00:37:28.880 we can turn the corner?

00:37:30.940 I think if you say people can do only this,

00:37:37.320 then you get into the realm of populists

00:37:40.080 who spout all sorts of things

00:37:42.320 that people can do that don't work.

00:37:44.200 But in democratic, peaceful societies,

00:37:48.160 I think if populations become less complacent

00:37:51.720 and more involved,

00:37:53.540 if you start worrying about

00:37:54.880 what is it that my child is being taught at school,

00:37:58.340 you become active in the school boards.

00:38:00.360 Who puts these curriculums together?

00:38:02.760 How can I get involved?

00:38:04.200 From the bottom up,

00:38:06.280 more civil society,

00:38:08.480 more civil action

00:38:09.500 from the people whose lives are affected.

00:38:12.540 And then elect

00:38:13.600 actually really responsible

00:38:16.640 and responsive representatives

00:38:18.320 instead of saying,

00:38:20.300 okay, you know,

00:38:21.400 let these political parties

00:38:22.980 deal with it for us.

00:38:24.700 We're just going to pay our contributions

00:38:26.360 and we'll see where they come from.

00:38:27.920 I think that is what maybe,

00:38:31.980 and this is maybe an effect of affluence

00:38:35.140 and freedom.

00:38:36.540 I would rather use my children

00:38:38.640 and do what I please

00:38:40.320 and use my freedom

00:38:41.600 in a way that just gives me

00:38:43.060 and my community

00:38:44.000 pleasure

00:38:45.620 and the things that we like to do

00:38:47.300 than be involved in politics.

00:38:48.700 I don't think of politics

00:38:49.820 as a pleasurable activity.

00:38:52.960 But it's a necessary evil.

00:38:55.480 And so I would say to people,

00:38:57.220 get involved.

00:38:58.340 Get off your couch

00:38:59.300 and figure out

00:39:00.580 who are these people

00:39:01.400 who are running the show?

00:39:02.700 What are the institutions that they,

00:39:04.060 how much money do you pay

00:39:05.220 in taxes

00:39:06.160 at any given level?

00:39:07.640 And what do you want in return?

00:39:09.720 Who do you like to associate with?

00:39:12.200 And that kind of activism,

00:39:15.440 bottom up,

00:39:16.900 mother to mother,

00:39:18.520 you know,

00:39:18.760 neighbor to neighbor,

00:39:20.200 define who the people are,

00:39:22.100 who is the community

00:39:23.000 that you belong to

00:39:24.720 that is going to be

00:39:25.580 negatively affected

00:39:26.580 by all of these policies

00:39:28.120 that are being pushed down

00:39:30.080 our thoughts

00:39:30.600 and then act accordingly.

00:39:32.720 It's not pleasant,

00:39:33.900 but someone has to do the dishes.

00:39:36.820 Think of politics

00:39:37.880 as that kind of a chore.

00:39:40.200 It is.

00:39:41.040 It is.

00:39:42.200 You talk about

00:39:44.220 the loss of rights for women

00:39:46.060 and I want you to get into this a bit

00:39:48.540 because I hear from the left,

00:39:51.800 what rights have you lost?

00:39:53.500 I hear that all the time.

00:39:55.580 And I mean,

00:39:56.420 I can't give you an amendment

00:39:58.640 to the Constitution,

00:39:59.800 at least in the top 10,

00:40:00.900 that isn't being violated every day

00:40:03.780 by the federal government.

00:40:05.780 Talk about the loss of rights for women. 1.00

00:40:08.460 Well,

00:40:11.880 you don't know

00:40:13.100 that you lost something

00:40:16.420 until you don't have it anymore.

00:40:18.960 And so let's go back

00:40:20.160 to the time you and I met

00:40:21.480 when I was talking

00:40:22.300 to European women

00:40:23.360 about something

00:40:24.740 that most European women

00:40:26.320 back then

00:40:27.180 took for granted

00:40:28.300 and still in some spaces do,

00:40:30.520 which was walking around

00:40:32.100 in public.

00:40:33.020 Dressed as you please,

00:40:35.540 you can drive,

00:40:36.380 you can take the train,

00:40:37.880 that's the public transport,

00:40:39.320 whatever,

00:40:40.020 with no fear

00:40:41.080 of any kind of violence.

00:40:43.780 Now the situation

00:40:44.840 has changed

00:40:45.660 for many women,

00:40:47.480 mostly working class women, 0.99

00:40:48.800 because it's working class neighborhoods

00:40:50.500 that bear the burden

00:40:51.920 of the negative consequences

00:40:53.620 of globalism

00:40:54.660 and globalization

00:40:55.980 and immigration.

00:40:58.020 And now

00:40:58.680 some of these women 0.99

00:40:59.720 are really feeling

00:41:01.320 and seeing

00:41:02.160 what we've lost.

00:41:05.320 And then

00:41:06.120 they're also asking

00:41:07.140 because in Europe

00:41:07.980 it's you go to

00:41:09.700 the government

00:41:10.440 to help you

00:41:11.280 with your problems.

00:41:12.660 They're also

00:41:13.560 confronted with

00:41:15.040 governments

00:41:15.940 that are deaf

00:41:16.800 to their problems

00:41:18.900 and their wishes.

00:41:20.800 And so

00:41:21.300 you know,

00:41:22.960 we go back

00:41:23.940 to where we started

00:41:24.780 the conversation.

00:41:26.060 The federal government

00:41:27.280 is

00:41:28.800 violating

00:41:33.380 constitutions,

00:41:36.520 amendments

00:41:36.840 to the constitution,

00:41:38.060 laws,

00:41:39.140 either through neglect,

00:41:40.380 through ineptitude

00:41:41.320 and incompetence

00:41:42.340 or at times

00:41:44.480 also deliberately.

00:41:47.980 So what should

00:41:49.320 the people do

00:41:50.100 in response to that?

00:41:51.740 That's

00:41:52.100 the question

00:41:53.260 of our time.

00:41:54.480 And how can we

00:41:55.100 stay united

00:41:56.640 as a people?

00:41:58.600 Can I

00:42:00.400 ask you to bring

00:42:02.880 correct me

00:42:05.480 if I'm wrong

00:42:06.480 or

00:42:06.920 bring some

00:42:08.620 enlightenment

00:42:09.000 to this.

00:42:11.280 You know,

00:42:12.140 in

00:42:12.340 where you grew up

00:42:14.520 there was 0.85

00:42:15.780 genital mutilation

00:42:17.020 for 0.99

00:42:18.040 girls.

00:42:18.960 I think

00:42:22.660 we are

00:42:23.220 just

00:42:23.500 experiencing

00:42:24.220 that

00:42:24.840 in a

00:42:25.300 different

00:42:25.660 way

00:42:26.220 with

00:42:27.440 transgenderism

00:42:28.620 with the

00:42:29.680 youth.

00:42:30.140 I think

00:42:31.240 we are

00:42:31.900 we are

00:42:33.220 in some

00:42:33.740 ways

00:42:34.320 when we

00:42:35.600 inject

00:42:36.380 hormones

00:42:36.940 or stop

00:42:38.220 the

00:42:38.900 progression

00:42:39.820 a natural

00:42:41.040 progression

00:42:41.460 of a body

00:42:42.160 at

00:42:43.240 a young

00:42:44.560 person's age

00:42:45.560 and it

00:42:46.020 cannot be

00:42:46.700 reversed

00:42:47.260 isn't that

00:42:49.380 a form

00:42:49.920 of a

00:42:52.240 progressive

00:42:53.680 or a

00:42:54.360 just a 0.98

00:42:57.440 crazy 1.00

00:42:58.060 religion 1.00

00:42:58.800 that is

00:42:59.540 saying,

00:43:00.180 no,

00:43:00.400 you can

00:43:00.740 do this.

00:43:01.340 we should

00:43:01.920 do this.

00:43:03.540 So,

00:43:04.260 when I was

00:43:04.900 growing up

00:43:05.700 I lived

00:43:06.440 and I was

00:43:06.940 born in

00:43:07.420 Somalia

00:43:07.900 and female 0.94

00:43:08.960 genital mutilation 0.59

00:43:10.160 was

00:43:11.120 something

00:43:12.160 that was

00:43:13.740 like

00:43:14.320 celebrating

00:43:16.000 Christmas.

00:43:16.680 It was just

00:43:17.180 so commonplace.

00:43:19.760 Girls 0.98

00:43:20.160 who were

00:43:20.640 not

00:43:20.960 mutilated

00:43:21.660 were seen

00:43:22.360 as

00:43:23.000 filthy

00:43:24.120 or

00:43:25.060 children

00:43:25.860 of the

00:43:26.500 very poor

00:43:27.020 who couldn't

00:43:27.480 afford

00:43:27.840 to have

00:43:28.520 the procedure

00:43:29.060 done

00:43:29.360 and that

00:43:29.780 is in

00:43:30.120 so many

00:43:30.860 countries

00:43:31.360 the case.

00:43:32.840 And so

00:43:33.040 for female 0.99

00:43:33.840 genital mutilation 0.95

00:43:34.760 a tradition

00:43:35.960 that's

00:43:36.300 thousands

00:43:36.720 of years

00:43:37.200 old

00:43:37.560 the activism

00:43:38.920 is

00:43:39.460 how can

00:43:40.140 we stop

00:43:40.660 this?

00:43:41.320 How can

00:43:41.580 we make

00:43:42.600 adults,

00:43:43.580 grown-ups

00:43:43.960 who take

00:43:44.380 care of

00:43:44.680 these children

00:43:45.180 see

00:43:45.780 that this

00:43:47.120 practice

00:43:47.500 is wrong?

00:43:49.240 The

00:43:49.640 transgender

00:43:50.220 lobby

00:43:50.860 in the

00:43:51.980 West

00:43:52.360 and particularly

00:43:53.220 in America

00:43:54.340 is trying

00:43:56.240 to impose

00:43:58.220 something

00:43:59.220 that now

00:44:01.080 heavily

00:44:01.600 affects

00:44:02.120 gulls

00:44:02.720 more than

00:44:03.540 little

00:44:04.080 boys

00:44:04.620 trying to

00:44:05.860 impose

00:44:06.660 something

00:44:07.320 that didn't

00:44:08.160 exist

00:44:08.760 on everyone

00:44:09.940 else.

00:44:10.400 And it's

00:44:10.680 very important

00:44:11.540 in this

00:44:12.220 debate

00:44:12.600 to make

00:44:13.240 a distinction

00:44:13.880 between

00:44:14.780 people who

00:44:15.480 are transgender

00:44:16.480 who want

00:44:17.560 to have

00:44:18.060 these procedures

00:44:18.760 done.

00:44:20.120 They are

00:44:20.500 grown-ups

00:44:21.360 and we

00:44:22.500 should give

00:44:23.480 them every

00:44:24.560 liberty,

00:44:25.480 every respect

00:44:26.320 that we accord

00:44:27.160 everyone else

00:44:28.060 within our

00:44:28.560 society.

00:44:29.220 and then

00:44:30.040 these

00:44:30.400 transgender

00:44:31.040 activists

00:44:32.000 who are

00:44:33.040 preying on

00:44:33.900 children

00:44:34.300 and who

00:44:36.180 have

00:44:36.440 frightened

00:44:37.100 the health

00:44:37.920 care system

00:44:38.680 into saying

00:44:39.560 if a child

00:44:40.920 of 8 or

00:44:41.680 9 or

00:44:42.180 10 years

00:44:42.720 old

00:44:43.040 comes

00:44:43.880 and asks

00:44:45.300 for a

00:44:45.980 transition

00:44:46.460 from one

00:44:47.520 sex to 0.91

00:44:48.000 the other, 0.90

00:44:48.840 we should

00:44:49.360 give it

00:44:50.760 to that

00:44:51.380 child

00:44:51.760 without

00:44:52.520 consulting

00:44:53.060 with the

00:44:53.400 parents,

00:44:54.400 without

00:44:54.860 proper

00:44:55.660 mental health

00:44:56.560 care.

00:44:57.520 And I

00:44:57.740 think

00:44:57.980 that

00:44:58.500 actually

00:44:59.040 is so

00:45:00.260 wrong,

00:45:01.220 so dystopian,

00:45:02.640 it's very

00:45:03.300 hard for me

00:45:03.940 to understand.

00:45:04.940 People who

00:45:05.420 have looked

00:45:06.700 into this,

00:45:08.120 like Abigail

00:45:08.920 Schreier,

00:45:09.740 please read

00:45:10.300 her book,

00:45:10.740 I recommend

00:45:11.200 it to

00:45:11.540 everyone.

00:45:11.740 It's fantastic.

00:45:12.660 Who has

00:45:12.980 read into

00:45:14.300 what is going

00:45:15.100 on in

00:45:15.400 America.

00:45:16.320 It is

00:45:16.660 really amazing

00:45:17.500 to witness

00:45:18.120 this.

00:45:18.380 when I

00:45:19.640 finished

00:45:19.960 that book

00:45:20.420 horrified.

00:45:21.760 I thought

00:45:22.120 this is

00:45:22.500 really a

00:45:22.960 wake-up

00:45:23.320 call

00:45:23.780 for parents,

00:45:26.400 not just

00:45:26.980 for activists,

00:45:27.900 but for

00:45:28.220 parents.

00:45:29.260 And we

00:45:29.520 need a

00:45:30.320 counter-activism

00:45:31.380 against

00:45:32.220 these

00:45:32.760 really

00:45:33.440 radical 0.73

00:45:34.260 transgender 0.94

00:45:35.480 activists. 0.87

00:45:36.380 They pretend

00:45:37.240 to fight

00:45:37.920 for the

00:45:38.200 rights of

00:45:38.580 transgender

00:45:39.040 people,

00:45:39.740 but that

00:45:40.260 is not

00:45:40.860 their

00:45:41.280 agenda.

00:45:42.000 Their

00:45:42.140 agenda

00:45:42.460 is really

00:45:43.240 to destroy

00:45:44.060 our 0.99

00:45:44.400 children.

00:45:45.720 Is,

00:45:46.460 you know,

00:45:47.880 you have

00:45:48.440 studied

00:45:49.120 religion,

00:45:49.780 you've

00:45:49.960 looked at

00:45:50.580 it,

00:45:51.000 you've

00:45:51.800 been a

00:45:52.120 part of

00:45:52.440 it,

00:45:52.620 you've

00:45:52.860 been

00:45:53.060 outside

00:45:53.560 of

00:45:53.820 it.

00:45:56.320 Isn't

00:45:56.880 what

00:45:58.080 America

00:45:58.740 is going

00:45:59.380 through

00:45:59.740 from

00:46:00.280 many

00:46:00.980 on the

00:46:01.620 far

00:46:02.420 left,

00:46:03.980 isn't

00:46:04.340 this just

00:46:04.820 a religion?

00:46:05.940 I mean,

00:46:06.140 the facts

00:46:07.400 don't always,

00:46:09.260 I mean,

00:46:09.600 the facts

00:46:10.300 sometimes are

00:46:10.920 not there.

00:46:11.860 Sometimes

00:46:12.120 they say,

00:46:12.680 don't believe

00:46:13.160 that,

00:46:13.600 don't believe

00:46:13.960 what your

00:46:14.300 eyes are

00:46:14.800 telling you.

00:46:16.420 It's got

00:46:17.200 dogma,

00:46:17.720 doctrine,

00:46:18.460 and punishments

00:46:19.460 if you

00:46:20.280 stray from

00:46:22.020 that.

00:46:22.820 Isn't

00:46:23.100 this just

00:46:23.600 a really

00:46:24.560 dangerous

00:46:25.740 religion?

00:46:30.140 Wokism, 0.99

00:46:31.180 I don't

00:46:31.500 know,

00:46:32.080 they call

00:46:32.520 it critical

00:46:33.080 race theory,

00:46:34.040 critical

00:46:34.380 justice

00:46:34.880 theory.

00:46:35.900 We need

00:46:36.720 to find

00:46:37.060 a name

00:46:37.480 for it

00:46:37.820 that everybody

00:46:38.340 really

00:46:38.700 understands.

00:46:39.900 The

00:46:40.040 woke,

00:46:41.260 yes,

00:46:42.740 they do

00:46:43.600 have the

00:46:44.200 traits of

00:46:45.080 radical

00:46:46.700 religion,

00:46:47.400 fanatical

00:46:48.020 religion,

00:46:48.540 in fact.

00:46:49.720 And in

00:46:50.580 some ways

00:46:51.000 they're

00:46:51.240 quasi-religious,

00:46:52.360 but they

00:46:52.560 always invoke

00:46:53.400 science here

00:46:54.320 and sometimes

00:46:55.280 they'll present

00:46:55.940 you with

00:46:56.240 footnotes

00:46:56.900 and that

00:46:57.160 just makes

00:46:57.620 you go,

00:46:59.160 oh,

00:46:59.400 really.

00:46:59.860 but they

00:47:01.980 are,

00:47:02.940 as you

00:47:03.600 say,

00:47:04.460 yeah,

00:47:04.800 quasi-religious

00:47:05.820 and I

00:47:06.280 don't know

00:47:06.560 how many

00:47:07.080 of them

00:47:07.380 really

00:47:09.240 understand

00:47:09.920 exactly

00:47:10.440 what it

00:47:10.840 is that

00:47:11.960 they believe

00:47:12.840 in and

00:47:13.460 how many

00:47:13.980 useful 1.00

00:47:14.960 idiots, 1.00

00:47:16.400 but it 1.00

00:47:17.320 is a

00:47:17.760 phenomenon

00:47:18.180 and it

00:47:18.760 may have

00:47:19.240 to do

00:47:19.780 with the

00:47:20.500 breakdown

00:47:20.900 of the

00:47:21.900 meaning-making

00:47:22.520 institutions

00:47:23.220 of our

00:47:23.720 society,

00:47:24.660 the family,

00:47:25.460 the community,

00:47:26.480 the church,

00:47:27.300 faith

00:47:27.680 organizations,

00:47:28.700 all of

00:47:29.520 that are

00:47:30.700 going through

00:47:31.840 some form

00:47:32.440 of crisis

00:47:33.020 and people

00:47:34.000 are then

00:47:34.460 easily,

00:47:35.100 young people

00:47:35.620 especially,

00:47:36.220 young and

00:47:36.600 impressionable

00:47:37.140 people want

00:47:38.600 to belong

00:47:39.300 and here's

00:47:41.220 what's on

00:47:42.200 offer and

00:47:42.960 that's

00:47:43.540 really,

00:47:44.020 yeah.

00:47:45.040 I want to

00:47:45.820 talk to you

00:47:46.260 about

00:47:46.700 immigration

00:47:47.500 and

00:47:48.300 assimilation.

00:47:49.880 I am,

00:47:50.440 I'm so

00:47:51.440 sick of

00:47:52.080 being called

00:47:52.480 a xenophobe

00:47:53.620 because

00:47:55.000 somehow

00:47:57.540 another

00:47:58.280 I'm

00:47:58.700 against

00:47:59.300 illegal

00:47:59.980 immigration

00:48:00.620 or just

00:48:01.120 opening up

00:48:01.560 the doors

00:48:01.920 and saying

00:48:02.320 oh,

00:48:03.140 here's

00:48:03.820 somebody

00:48:04.100 with

00:48:04.360 five

00:48:04.960 child

00:48:05.440 brides

00:48:06.080 come on

00:48:06.540 in.

00:48:07.660 I have

00:48:08.020 no

00:48:08.300 problem.

00:48:08.880 I want

00:48:09.860 immigrants

00:48:10.840 to come

00:48:11.300 to the

00:48:11.560 United

00:48:11.780 States.

00:48:12.260 They

00:48:12.340 renew

00:48:12.780 us

00:48:13.020 because

00:48:13.160 we

00:48:13.320 get

00:48:13.520 sleepy

00:48:14.180 and 0.83

00:48:14.620 fat

00:48:15.100 and 1.00

00:48:15.340 lazy 0.99

00:48:15.700 and 1.00

00:48:16.700 immigrants

00:48:17.540 who

00:48:17.820 really

00:48:18.380 understand

00:48:19.260 what

00:48:20.620 America

00:48:21.180 has

00:48:21.680 or what

00:48:21.980 the

00:48:22.200 West

00:48:22.560 has.

00:48:23.280 I

00:48:23.800 want

00:48:24.280 them

00:48:24.540 here.

00:48:25.680 I

00:48:25.780 just

00:48:26.320 don't

00:48:27.160 and I

00:48:27.420 want

00:48:27.580 them

00:48:27.720 to bring

00:48:28.060 their

00:48:28.260 own

00:48:28.480 traits

00:48:28.880 and

00:48:29.040 their

00:48:29.220 personalities

00:48:29.820 and

00:48:30.100 everything

00:48:30.400 else

00:48:30.640 but

00:48:31.060 just

00:48:31.760 bring

00:48:32.120 it

00:48:32.340 and

00:48:32.780 assimilate

00:48:33.640 bring it

00:48:34.120 and

00:48:34.380 put it

00:48:35.140 into

00:48:35.480 our

00:48:35.740 soup

00:48:36.300 if you

00:48:36.780 will

00:48:37.060 is

00:48:39.260 talk

00:48:40.260 to me

00:48:40.620 about

00:48:41.060 immigration

00:48:42.260 and

00:48:42.760 assimilation.

00:48:45.180 So

00:48:45.700 assimilation

00:48:46.500 I think

00:48:46.880 the phrase

00:48:47.280 used to

00:48:47.680 be

00:48:47.940 the

00:48:48.280 melting

00:48:48.640 pot

00:48:49.200 and

00:48:49.520 that's

00:48:49.780 what

00:48:49.940 made

00:48:50.320 America

00:48:50.840 very

00:48:51.200 very

00:48:51.480 different

00:48:51.780 from

00:48:52.100 other

00:48:52.520 immigration

00:48:53.560 societies

00:48:54.200 and other

00:48:54.660 societies

00:48:55.160 that are

00:48:55.520 homogenous

00:48:56.000 and don't

00:48:56.460 really

00:48:56.840 have much

00:48:57.620 immigration.

00:48:59.600 But

00:48:59.880 I think

00:49:01.020 first of

00:49:01.600 all

00:49:01.840 what

00:49:02.400 everyone

00:49:02.880 tries to

00:49:03.740 make us

00:49:04.660 forget

00:49:05.080 is that

00:49:05.720 American

00:49:06.360 immigration

00:49:06.940 was always

00:49:07.740 selective

00:49:08.280 and the

00:49:10.300 selection

00:49:10.640 was yes

00:49:11.260 it was

00:49:11.700 based on

00:49:12.560 could you

00:49:13.120 become a

00:49:13.900 part of

00:49:14.360 that

00:49:14.560 melting

00:49:14.940 pot

00:49:15.340 eventually

00:49:16.000 or not.

00:49:18.680 And

00:49:19.040 what we're

00:49:19.460 being told

00:49:20.040 now

00:49:20.620 is that

00:49:21.820 the

00:49:22.340 melting

00:49:22.720 pot

00:49:23.120 is bad

00:49:23.820 the

00:49:24.080 structures

00:49:24.460 that

00:49:24.760 brought

00:49:25.260 about

00:49:25.640 this

00:49:26.000 melting

00:49:26.340 pot

00:49:26.840 are

00:49:28.040 systemically

00:49:29.240 racist

00:49:30.140 and so

00:49:31.380 we actually

00:49:32.040 have nothing

00:49:32.920 America

00:49:33.640 is not

00:49:34.320 exceptional

00:49:34.880 America

00:49:35.320 has nothing

00:49:36.120 to offer

00:49:36.820 the

00:49:37.200 immigrant

00:49:37.720 the

00:49:38.560 immigrant

00:49:39.040 has

00:49:40.180 something

00:49:40.780 to offer

00:49:41.540 America

00:49:42.000 and then

00:49:42.420 we're

00:49:42.780 distracted

00:49:43.340 with stories

00:49:44.140 of the

00:49:44.600 past

00:49:45.060 things that

00:49:46.080 Americans

00:49:46.700 did wrong

00:49:47.520 in the

00:49:47.900 past

00:49:48.260 but we're

00:49:48.960 not told

00:49:49.480 the whole

00:49:49.980 truth

00:49:50.460 yes

00:49:51.180 there was

00:49:51.660 slavery

00:49:52.380 in America

00:49:53.620 as there

00:49:54.140 was slavery

00:49:54.720 everywhere else

00:49:55.820 in the

00:49:56.100 world

00:49:56.500 but Americans

00:49:57.920 fought a

00:49:59.160 civil war

00:49:59.660 to end

00:50:00.100 it

00:50:00.380 Americans

00:50:01.640 had a

00:50:02.300 civil rights

00:50:02.880 movement

00:50:03.440 to end

00:50:04.420 Jim Crow 0.56

00:50:05.020 Americans

00:50:05.860 changed

00:50:07.060 their laws

00:50:08.120 and their

00:50:08.740 culture

00:50:09.200 and their

00:50:09.840 norms

00:50:10.340 based on

00:50:11.480 its

00:50:11.660 foundational

00:50:12.580 documents

00:50:13.380 that's the

00:50:14.240 bit

00:50:14.460 that we're

00:50:15.000 not told

00:50:15.520 so if

00:50:16.220 you want

00:50:16.680 to come

00:50:17.180 here

00:50:17.480 and you

00:50:18.340 know

00:50:18.880 anything

00:50:20.340 about

00:50:20.720 America

00:50:21.160 and what

00:50:21.540 you're

00:50:21.840 seeking

00:50:22.320 is what's

00:50:23.340 enshrined

00:50:24.040 in the

00:50:24.360 Bill of

00:50:24.620 Rights

00:50:24.860 and the

00:50:25.120 Constitution

00:50:25.720 then you

00:50:26.700 will hop

00:50:27.320 into that

00:50:27.860 melting pot

00:50:28.500 talk to

00:50:29.680 me about

00:50:30.220 even to

00:50:33.160 offer it

00:50:33.760 to them

00:50:34.240 is racist

00:50:35.220 and it's 0.57

00:50:35.640 criminal

00:50:35.960 you are

00:50:36.620 not a

00:50:36.940 criminal

00:50:37.240 Glenn

00:50:37.620 I know

00:50:38.340 you're

00:50:38.600 not

00:50:38.900 I know

00:50:39.460 you're

00:50:39.660 a

00:50:39.780 compassionate

00:50:40.300 man

00:50:40.800 I know

00:50:41.600 the fact

00:50:42.500 that you 0.95

00:50:42.860 are white

00:50:43.340 doesn't

00:50:44.000 make you

00:50:44.720 a white 0.99

00:50:45.200 supremacist

00:50:45.980 and what I

00:50:46.660 really love

00:50:47.280 about the

00:50:47.720 work you

00:50:48.100 do is

00:50:48.480 that you

00:50:48.820 push back

00:50:49.640 and you

00:50:50.620 don't stand

00:50:51.220 for that

00:50:51.660 and I

00:50:51.960 think that's

00:50:52.500 it for me

00:50:53.060 everybody

00:50:53.820 should stand

00:50:54.420 up to

00:50:54.720 these people

00:50:55.280 it's a

00:50:55.720 small

00:50:56.160 loud

00:50:57.720 minority

00:50:58.920 they have

00:50:59.700 to be

00:51:00.020 told

00:51:00.320 they've

00:51:00.740 really got

00:51:01.320 to be

00:51:01.620 put in

00:51:01.960 their

00:51:02.100 place

00:51:02.520 could you

00:51:05.260 talk to

00:51:05.660 me

00:51:05.960 you

00:51:07.580 you went

00:51:09.720 to

00:51:10.160 Europe

00:51:11.120 you became

00:51:13.160 a member

00:51:13.620 of

00:51:13.960 parliament

00:51:14.740 in Europe

00:51:16.300 you

00:51:16.860 married

00:51:19.440 an

00:51:19.720 Englishman

00:51:20.440 but you

00:51:22.040 he's very

00:51:24.740 tribal

00:51:25.340 about his

00:51:25.900 roots

00:51:26.240 he's a

00:51:26.780 Scotsman

00:51:27.380 I'm sorry

00:51:28.020 I work

00:51:28.760 with a

00:51:29.060 Scotsman

00:51:29.520 I'm sorry

00:51:30.140 I know

00:51:30.960 I know

00:51:31.700 the difference

00:51:32.140 I don't

00:51:32.400 want to

00:51:32.600 cause a

00:51:32.900 war here

00:51:33.280 but

00:51:35.780 and you

00:51:37.820 both live

00:51:38.700 now in

00:51:39.740 America

00:51:40.180 tell me

00:51:41.480 what you

00:51:42.180 thought of

00:51:43.080 America

00:51:43.580 from the

00:51:44.280 outside

00:51:44.780 and who

00:51:46.400 we are

00:51:47.040 now from

00:51:47.980 the inside

00:51:49.300 good and

00:51:49.900 bad

00:51:50.240 so from

00:51:52.620 the outside

00:51:53.200 before I

00:51:53.880 came to

00:51:54.340 America

00:51:54.800 I would

00:51:55.640 say when

00:51:56.000 I lived

00:51:56.560 in Africa

00:51:57.660 I was a

00:51:58.980 teenager

00:51:59.420 in Kenya

00:52:00.280 Nairobi

00:52:00.700 Kenya

00:52:01.080 and I

00:52:02.340 used to

00:52:02.760 be an

00:52:03.220 admirer of

00:52:04.040 America

00:52:04.500 because as

00:52:05.420 a child

00:52:05.900 living in

00:52:06.680 Somalia

00:52:07.200 we were

00:52:09.000 treated to

00:52:09.760 communism

00:52:10.460 remember the

00:52:11.480 world was

00:52:11.920 the Soviet

00:52:12.340 Union

00:52:12.760 and the

00:52:13.300 United

00:52:13.540 States

00:52:14.020 Somalia

00:52:16.300 under the

00:52:17.060 dictatorship

00:52:17.500 of

00:52:17.880 Mohammed

00:52:18.160 had

00:52:18.880 decided

00:52:19.400 to go

00:52:20.000 with

00:52:20.420 communism

00:52:21.220 and we

00:52:22.280 fled

00:52:22.640 communism

00:52:23.200 my father

00:52:23.780 fled

00:52:24.100 communism

00:52:24.600 and we

00:52:25.340 ended up

00:52:25.940 in Kenya

00:52:27.200 which was

00:52:27.780 closer

00:52:28.420 you would

00:52:29.760 call back

00:52:30.320 then maybe

00:52:30.900 under the

00:52:31.740 sphere

00:52:32.060 of America

00:52:33.340 and that

00:52:33.680 was much

00:52:34.100 better

00:52:34.360 and my

00:52:34.740 impression

00:52:35.260 my

00:52:35.800 prejudice

00:52:39.500 my image

00:52:40.240 of America

00:52:40.820 was it's

00:52:41.680 a great

00:52:42.000 country

00:52:42.440 it's a

00:52:43.040 great

00:52:43.200 place

00:52:43.820 I've

00:52:44.360 never

00:52:44.540 been

00:52:44.660 there

00:52:44.960 then I

00:52:45.800 came to

00:52:46.380 the Netherlands

00:52:46.860 and while I

00:52:47.600 lived there

00:52:48.220 especially when I

00:52:49.180 joined politics

00:52:50.220 the image of

00:52:51.420 America was 0.99

00:52:52.180 they're buffoons 1.00

00:52:53.040 they're fat 1.00

00:52:53.800 they carry 0.99

00:52:54.360 guns 0.96

00:52:54.740 they kill 0.99

00:52:55.200 people 0.94

00:52:55.520 they like

00:52:55.920 to invade

00:52:56.320 countries

00:52:56.880 and so on

00:52:57.940 and then I

00:52:58.840 came here

00:52:59.500 in 2002

00:53:00.880 was my

00:53:01.340 first time

00:53:01.960 and my

00:53:03.200 experience

00:53:03.620 was very

00:53:04.220 different

00:53:04.580 in fact I

00:53:05.120 always joke

00:53:05.700 I don't

00:53:06.360 think I've

00:53:06.740 ever seen

00:53:07.100 so many

00:53:07.480 thin people

00:53:08.180 in my

00:53:08.540 life

00:53:08.800 I was

00:53:09.120 in Santa

00:53:09.520 Monica

00:53:09.900 LA

00:53:10.340 yeah

00:53:11.540 well that's

00:53:11.980 different

00:53:12.280 come to

00:53:12.940 Texas

00:53:13.360 but anyway

00:53:16.400 so all

00:53:16.940 Americans

00:53:17.680 have been

00:53:18.940 welcoming

00:53:19.740 they have

00:53:20.580 opened their

00:53:21.320 homes and

00:53:22.080 their businesses

00:53:22.700 and their

00:53:23.200 pocketbooks

00:53:23.740 to me

00:53:24.660 and all

00:53:25.220 of these

00:53:25.520 people who

00:53:25.960 are trying

00:53:26.360 to come

00:53:26.820 here and

00:53:27.400 make a

00:53:28.140 better living

00:53:28.600 so my

00:53:29.280 image of

00:53:29.760 America now 0.91

00:53:30.380 is obviously

00:53:30.900 radically

00:53:31.720 different

00:53:32.200 from the

00:53:33.060 one that

00:53:33.640 I developed

00:53:34.200 in the

00:53:37.420 Netherlands

00:53:37.920 I love

00:53:39.080 America

00:53:39.520 I love

00:53:40.060 Americans

00:53:40.680 I'm just

00:53:41.680 like you

00:53:42.100 worried about

00:53:42.860 our politics

00:53:43.960 I'm worried

00:53:44.940 about our

00:53:45.520 universities

00:53:46.160 and what

00:53:46.580 goes on

00:53:47.040 there and

00:53:47.460 what our

00:53:47.860 kids are

00:53:48.260 taught

00:53:48.580 I'm worried

00:53:49.700 about our

00:53:50.400 education

00:53:51.000 system

00:53:51.640 I'm

00:53:52.760 especially

00:53:53.460 worried about

00:53:54.340 our media

00:53:55.180 and they

00:53:56.260 have taken

00:53:56.780 to

00:53:57.240 they've

00:53:58.400 abandoned

00:53:58.880 journalism

00:53:59.640 mostly

00:54:00.320 there are

00:54:00.860 still a few

00:54:01.380 left who

00:54:02.060 believe in

00:54:03.200 the institution

00:54:04.620 of journalism

00:54:05.320 but most of

00:54:05.940 it is

00:54:06.440 it's been

00:54:07.300 compromised

00:54:07.740 so I'm

00:54:08.600 alarmed about

00:54:09.320 that I

00:54:09.740 care about

00:54:10.540 what goes

00:54:11.080 on but

00:54:11.780 my image

00:54:12.540 of America

00:54:13.040 is one

00:54:13.640 that it's

00:54:14.300 still the

00:54:14.840 greatest nation

00:54:15.600 in the

00:54:15.900 world and

00:54:16.380 we can

00:54:16.700 rescue it

00:54:17.320 even with

00:54:18.180 all the

00:54:18.740 adversaries

00:54:19.400 that are

00:54:19.720 now surrounding

00:54:20.260 us

00:54:20.580 think about

00:54:21.260 the bigger

00:54:21.660 ones like

00:54:22.240 China

00:54:22.720 Putin

00:54:23.660 we've

00:54:25.760 just done

00:54:26.320 withdrawing

00:54:27.080 from

00:54:27.260 Afghanistan

00:54:27.740 the way

00:54:28.200 we did

00:54:28.600 that empowers

00:54:29.880 those

00:54:30.300 adversaries

00:54:30.900 and I

00:54:31.300 worry about

00:54:31.820 such things

00:54:32.380 but I

00:54:33.200 think America

00:54:33.680 is a great

00:54:34.280 country and

00:54:35.000 for people

00:54:35.420 to go

00:54:35.760 around saying

00:54:36.380 it's

00:54:36.680 systemically

00:54:37.240 racist

00:54:37.640 is just

00:54:38.300 BS

00:54:39.100 are we

00:54:40.480 ahead of

00:54:41.520 Europe or

00:54:42.260 behind Europe

00:54:43.200 in the

00:54:43.860 self-destruction

00:54:45.680 kind of

00:54:46.560 road

00:54:47.180 yeah

00:54:48.740 it really

00:54:50.620 depends on

00:54:51.760 you know

00:54:52.420 things can

00:54:53.560 change

00:54:54.160 very quickly

00:54:55.780 and I think

00:54:56.460 that in

00:54:56.900 America we

00:54:57.520 have enough

00:54:58.380 potential

00:54:59.280 enough potential

00:55:00.440 to do things

00:55:01.260 right to

00:55:02.140 correct course

00:55:03.320 in Europe

00:55:04.660 some countries

00:55:05.780 are doing

00:55:06.200 great things

00:55:06.820 I was in

00:55:07.880 Denmark

00:55:08.420 as you

00:55:10.140 read in

00:55:10.640 the book

00:55:11.000 reporting on

00:55:11.840 Austria

00:55:12.380 even now

00:55:14.760 the UK

00:55:15.240 post-Brexit

00:55:16.100 I think

00:55:16.700 they do

00:55:17.220 have a

00:55:17.620 fighting

00:55:17.900 chance

00:55:18.560 but some

00:55:19.720 countries

00:55:20.080 seem to

00:55:20.500 be too

00:55:20.900 far gone

00:55:21.680 in this

00:55:22.380 moral

00:55:23.440 relativism

00:55:24.240 not having

00:55:24.780 children

00:55:25.240 all of

00:55:27.080 these crazy

00:55:27.760 things

00:55:28.260 not really

00:55:29.180 having a

00:55:29.780 serious

00:55:30.060 discussion

00:55:30.580 about

00:55:31.020 immigration

00:55:31.740 and its

00:55:32.200 implications

00:55:32.740 for the

00:55:33.200 continent

00:55:33.540 so in

00:55:34.340 many ways

00:55:34.820 I would

00:55:35.060 say America

00:55:35.520 does have

00:55:36.060 a fighting

00:55:36.440 chance

00:55:36.880 still

00:55:37.360 but we

00:55:39.240 do have

00:55:39.900 to fight

00:55:40.320 though

00:55:40.580 we do

00:55:41.180 have to

00:55:41.580 stand up

00:55:42.120 against

00:55:42.520 these

00:55:42.780 people

00:55:43.160 the

00:55:43.520 difference

00:55:43.960 between

00:55:44.300 immigration

00:55:44.840 in Europe

00:55:45.380 and the

00:55:45.760 immigration

00:55:46.280 here in

00:55:46.820 America

00:55:47.200 we're both

00:55:47.860 having

00:55:48.240 immigration

00:55:49.100 problems

00:55:50.140 is there a

00:55:51.220 difference

00:55:51.520 yeah

00:55:51.920 what is it

00:55:52.760 oh yes

00:55:53.340 it goes back

00:55:55.140 to the

00:55:55.540 concept of

00:55:56.360 the melting

00:55:56.800 pot

00:55:57.120 America's

00:55:57.680 an idea

00:55:58.200 and people

00:55:58.620 want to

00:55:59.060 melt

00:55:59.360 into it

00:55:59.900 if they

00:56:00.260 understand

00:56:00.780 the value

00:56:01.300 of that

00:56:01.660 idea

00:56:02.000 Europe

00:56:02.820 and European

00:56:03.420 countries

00:56:03.820 are still

00:56:04.600 homogenous

00:56:05.320 nations

00:56:05.740 basically

00:56:06.160 they're a

00:56:06.520 bunch

00:56:06.700 of

00:56:06.860 tribes

00:56:07.340 and they

00:56:08.200 have

00:56:08.480 no

00:56:08.980 not a

00:56:10.060 proper

00:56:10.360 history

00:56:11.040 with

00:56:12.100 immigration

00:56:12.880 and the

00:56:13.240 only

00:56:13.500 immigration

00:56:14.020 that they've

00:56:14.480 been getting

00:56:14.900 since the

00:56:15.380 1990s

00:56:16.340 is not

00:56:17.280 really

00:56:17.780 selective

00:56:18.480 and it's

00:56:19.280 only if

00:56:19.660 there was

00:56:19.920 any kind

00:56:20.480 of selection

00:56:21.000 it was

00:56:21.380 selected

00:56:21.740 on who

00:56:22.800 is the

00:56:23.600 poorest

00:56:24.060 the neediest

00:56:25.120 and so

00:56:25.620 on and

00:56:26.020 then they

00:56:26.300 were put

00:56:26.980 on welfare

00:56:27.540 so the

00:56:28.420 immigrants

00:56:28.860 that they

00:56:29.480 have selected

00:56:30.520 are not

00:56:31.440 immigrants

00:56:31.840 that fuel

00:56:32.480 the economy

00:56:33.760 in the

00:56:34.200 way

00:56:34.560 that

00:56:35.300 America's

00:56:36.620 the

00:56:37.400 conversations

00:56:37.900 about

00:56:38.340 or debates

00:56:39.580 about

00:56:40.620 in America

00:56:41.920 about

00:56:42.260 immigration

00:56:42.760 are radically

00:56:43.520 different

00:56:44.100 and so

00:56:45.940 I still

00:56:46.400 think

00:56:46.740 even though

00:56:47.340 we are

00:56:48.160 seeing

00:56:48.520 now

00:56:48.860 the

00:56:49.440 border

00:56:49.900 all of

00:56:51.800 that

00:56:52.000 I know

00:56:53.120 that that

00:56:53.560 is really

00:56:54.320 really worrying

00:56:55.100 but it is

00:56:55.680 nowhere

00:56:56.160 the debates

00:56:56.940 we have

00:56:57.400 here are

00:56:57.860 nowhere

00:56:58.500 near as

00:56:59.240 bad as

00:56:59.740 in

00:57:00.040 Europe

00:57:00.820 if

00:57:02.840 there

00:57:03.160 was

00:57:03.600 I mean

00:57:06.680 I'm just

00:57:07.240 thinking

00:57:07.480 there are

00:57:07.780 very few

00:57:08.240 tables

00:57:08.840 that I

00:57:09.560 could sit

00:57:10.120 at

00:57:10.420 where I

00:57:11.640 would be

00:57:12.440 thrilled

00:57:13.080 not to

00:57:14.060 say anything

00:57:14.620 just to

00:57:15.240 listen to

00:57:15.920 the conversation

00:57:16.760 the dinner

00:57:17.960 table

00:57:18.440 between you

00:57:19.400 and your

00:57:19.860 husband

00:57:20.300 it must

00:57:21.960 be

00:57:22.300 fascinating

00:57:23.280 to listen

00:57:24.460 to you're

00:57:24.900 both

00:57:25.220 people I

00:57:26.700 have so much

00:57:27.540 respect for

00:57:28.220 your intellect

00:57:28.860 and your

00:57:29.520 courage to

00:57:30.640 say the

00:57:31.180 things that

00:57:31.820 you actually

00:57:32.520 mean and

00:57:33.060 not to

00:57:33.440 bow a

00:57:34.540 knee to 0.64

00:57:35.440 lies 0.99

00:57:36.540 I hate

00:57:38.420 to disillusion

00:57:39.140 you but

00:57:39.520 because we

00:57:40.100 also have

00:57:40.680 small children

00:57:41.400 we do a

00:57:41.880 lot of

00:57:42.180 toddler talk

00:57:42.900 at the

00:57:43.520 dinner table

00:57:44.100 I know

00:57:47.140 that I

00:57:47.860 know that

00:57:48.600 please talk

00:57:49.500 to me I

00:57:49.860 haven't talked

00:57:50.300 to an adult

00:57:50.900 in a long

00:57:51.440 time I

00:57:52.300 know that

00:57:52.740 feeling

00:57:53.200 I and

00:57:55.140 thank you

00:57:55.560 so much

00:57:56.280 for all

00:57:57.300 that you

00:57:57.600 do and

00:57:58.400 I hope

00:57:59.640 we can

00:57:59.880 talk again

00:58:00.440 God bless

00:58:01.160 wonderful

00:58:02.120 thank you

00:58:03.140 just a

00:58:08.820 reminder

00:58:09.200 I'd love

00:58:10.500 you to

00:58:10.760 rate and

00:58:11.320 subscribe to

00:58:11.940 the podcast

00:58:12.580 and pass

00:58:13.120 this on to

00:58:13.500 a friend

00:58:13.880 so it can

00:58:14.380 be discovered

00:58:14.820 by other

00:58:15.200 people

00:58:15.500 it's

00:58:18.420 what

00:58:18.820 do

00:58:30.940 you

00:58:31.320 you

00:58:33.360 you

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