Ep 141 ｜ Will Hunter's 'Laptop from Hell' END Joe Biden？ ｜ Miranda Devine ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 2 minutes
Words per Minute
157.23766
Summary
The Watergate of our time is happening right now, and like most scandals, it began with a mundane event. A MacBook Pro computer repair shop in Delaware had a computer that just wasn t being picked up. On that waterlogged computer, there were 11 gigabytes of damning information.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
We are currently in the middle of a scandal of biblical proportions, and yet it's pretty quiet
00:00:05.160
on the Western Front. The Watergate of our time is happening right now, and like most scandals,
00:00:11.500
it began with a mundane event. A MacBook Pro computer repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware,
00:00:18.460
had a computer that just wasn't being picked up. On that waterlogged computer, there were 11
00:00:24.420
gigabytes of damning information, 22,000 emails ranging from 2009 to 2019. In October of 2020,
00:00:35.460
mere weeks before the presidential election between Trump and Biden, the New York Post
00:00:40.100
published a smoking gun article exposing the whole scandal. Almost immediately, within a couple of
00:00:47.260
days, 51 former senior intelligence officials, including John Brennan, released a statement
00:00:53.580
saying that the New York Post reporting had all of the classic earmarks of a Russian
00:00:58.160
disinformation operation. The only problem with that statement is it's reversed. The 51 people
00:01:04.580
were the disinformation. Big tech platforms blocked people from sharing the story, citing that it was
00:01:11.880
hacked material, even though it wasn't. It led to a coordinated suppression of the story, brushing it
00:01:18.640
off as a conspiracy theory in Russian disinformation campaign. Twitter locked New York Post's account for
00:01:26.180
two weeks before the election. NPR proudly told their audience they didn't want to waste their time on
00:01:31.720
stories that aren't really stories. Really? The entire media parroted this.
00:01:38.280
This looks like your classic disinformation campaign. Could actually be part of Russia's latest and very massive
00:01:46.200
disinformation campaign in the U.S. presidential election. A Russian hack and dump operation. A Russian
00:01:51.900
operation. That is Russian misinformation. U.S. authorities are seeing if those emails we just talked about are
00:01:58.300
connected to an ongoing Russian disinformation effort. This is a Russian misinformation campaign.
00:02:04.660
A classic example of the right wing media machine. The right wing is going crazy with all sorts of
00:02:10.380
allegations about Biden and his family. Too disgusting to even repeat here. Unbelievable.
00:02:18.220
So that's what they did. And then last month, I think it was on paragraph 24, the New York Times
00:02:23.760
quietly admitted, oh yeah, that laptop thing is real. Except they're reframing the story now to have
00:02:30.480
nothing to do with the president. Another lie. As a reporter and columnist for the New York Post,
00:02:37.560
today's guest found herself in the middle of all of it. She's written a book, Laptop from Hell,
00:02:43.620
Hunter Biden, Big Tech, and the Dirty Secrets the President Tried to Hide. It documents the entire
00:02:50.720
scandal. And it is gross in multiple ways. Today on the Glenn Beck podcast. Welcome, Miranda Devine.
00:03:01.780
Are you unhappy with your progressive glasses? Of course, they're progressives. I mean, you know
00:03:07.300
what I'm saying? Have you ever been told to go home and just get used to your progressive glasses?
00:03:13.400
Yeah. I have new progressive glasses that I love. I use Rodenstock. They're glasses from
00:03:23.260
Better Spectacles Now. Better Spectacles, a conservative American company, is now exclusively
00:03:30.480
offering Rodenstock eyewear for the first time in the U.S. Rodenstock is a 144-year-old German company
00:03:38.300
that has been considered the world's gold standard for glasses. And they are fantastic. The Rodenstock
00:03:45.620
scientists use biometric research to measure the eye in over 7,000 points. They have taken the
00:03:52.880
findings from over 1 million patients and combined them with artificial intelligence now. And the result
00:03:58.440
is biometric intelligence glasses, or big glasses, which give you a seamlessly natural experience that
00:04:05.840
works perfectly with your brain, improves your vision, the sharpness at all distances, including
00:04:12.220
up to 40% better at near and intermediate distance, as well as providing you with better night vision.
00:04:19.360
98% of the people who have these glasses recommend them. I have them, and I cannot tell you how great
00:04:26.220
the difference is. It is tremendous. Better Spectacles dot com slash Beck. Go there now. Better Spectacles
00:04:33.120
dot com slash Beck. Schedule a teleoptical appointment. You don't even have to leave the comfort of your
00:04:39.120
home. And 61% off their progressive eyewear, plus free handcrafted Rodenstock frames. Go to right now.
00:05:03.120
Hi, Miranda. Hi, Glenn. Great to talk to you. Good to talk to you. Thank you for actually doing the work
00:05:12.840
on all of this. Your book is tough to read at times. Well worth it, but it's hard to read. I got to imagine
00:05:28.900
Look, it really was. I mean, there's so much disgusting material on there. For one thing, all of
00:05:34.460
hunters porn and porn videos and so on. But also, it's just a complete mess. And so to try and dig down
00:05:44.440
and find the gems, you know, it really was like rock mining, you know, you might toil for hours and
00:05:51.100
then there's the diamond that you find that kind of is the key to a lot of other issues. But in fact,
00:05:57.600
that laptop's not enough. You need other material to add to it. So let me let me start kind of where
00:06:04.160
you started in a way. You start very at the beginning with compassion. And and I'd like to kind
00:06:11.140
of go there. Can you tell me who what happened to Hunter? I know he you know, his brother died.
00:06:20.080
They were in a car accident. He was about three. You outline that very well in the book. But when
00:06:25.360
does he really become what is it? Cain to the able or able to the cane? When does he go? When does he go
00:06:34.860
dark? Look, I think you have to really go back to that car crash. When he was two, his brother Bo was
00:06:45.060
three, they were quite badly injured. And their mother was killed and their baby sister. And at that
00:06:51.440
moment, I guess Joe Biden had a choice. He could, you know, stay behind in Delaware and be the father
00:06:58.200
to his now motherless boys. Or he could continue on to Washington to this glittering career that he
00:07:05.960
dreamed of. And, you know, just sort of fluked by a few thousand votes to become the senator for Delaware.
00:07:12.200
And he made the choice to go to Washington. And he says that, you know, he used to come home every
00:07:17.660
night and, you know, see his kids on the train for on the Amtrak. And his his two boys were looked
00:07:24.580
after well, it seems, by his sister, who really worshipped, hero worshipped. This is Val Biden,
00:07:32.340
hero worshipped Joe, and gave up her career. And in fact, her first marriage broke up, I assume,
00:07:39.840
because of this. She moved into his house and was played mother to the two boys. And from what Hunter
00:07:46.300
says, he was very happy and he loved her very much. And also Joe's mother cared for them as well. But
00:07:52.420
Joe basically did abandon them. I mean, it's a big career. He even if he did come back every night,
00:07:58.980
he was only back in time to kiss them, I'm told, you know, while they were sleeping. So they didn't
00:08:04.240
really see much of their father, basically lost their mother, pretty much lost their father. But the
00:08:10.560
real crunch for Hunter seemed to come when he was about seven. And Joe married Jill Biden, this younger
00:08:17.340
divorced school teacher. One little anecdote I'll tell you about Jill Biden, she wore a full length
00:08:24.000
fur coat into a pizza joint in Delaware, in Wilmington, when she was dating Joe. And that was
00:08:29.640
remarked upon and remembered by the locals for a long time. Anyway, she was a sort of a younger,
00:08:34.900
glamorous blonde. And she didn't really have any, you know, knowledge about bringing up two who were at
00:08:42.180
that stage quite rambunctious little boys as boys are, you know, seven and eight. And Hunter was
00:08:48.360
particularly rambunctious. His older brother, Bo, just one year and one day older than him, was the
00:08:53.940
golden boy, literally the golden boy, blonde hair, sunny features, a very easygoing and easy boy to
00:09:01.600
look after. Hunter was a rather darker figure. He was, you know, maybe a bit ADHD. He was much more
00:09:10.340
impetuous. And his older brother, really, Bo, looked after him. But I think from what Hunter
00:09:17.380
says, his relationship with Jill never really got off to a great start. She just didn't know how to
00:09:23.340
manage him. And she and Bo had a good relationship. And Hunter says that he always felt excluded. And he
00:09:29.920
also talks bitterly about how she would spend, you know, go off to the golf course and ignore him.
00:09:35.360
And that little enclave, that very wealthy enclave, Greenville, Delaware, it's sort of just
00:09:42.600
outside of Wilmington. There were a lot of kids, teenagers, when they were growing up who got into
00:09:49.500
drugs. And I'm told by people who went to school with the Bidens that Hunter and his sister, Ashley,
00:09:59.020
hung out with the sort of druggie group, the cool group, I guess. And drugs were just rife.
00:10:04.940
And in that era. So Hunter talks in his own memoir about, at a very young age, six or so,
00:10:12.200
going to some function with his father, some electoral function and scooting under a table
00:10:17.800
and drinking vodka, I think it was, or some sort of alcohol. That was his first drunken moment.
00:10:22.740
When he was 18, he was arrested by police for, I think it was just, I think it was smoking weed.
00:10:28.500
Anyway, and that might have been weed or it might have been some other drug. But anyway,
00:10:32.820
he was busted for drugs by the local police when he was still at school. That record was sort of
00:10:41.100
expunged later on. And I think that he was sort of dabbling, but he married a very nice woman,
00:10:49.700
another Catholic, Kathleen. And they had three young daughters. And he seemed to be in that era
00:10:58.760
as a young married man in Washington, DC, working as a lobbyist. He seemed to be okay. He seemed to
00:11:06.940
be sober. I know people who were friends of his at that time, and they thought he was just a normal
00:11:13.140
family guy. But at some point he fell off the wagon, started drinking, you know, a bottle of
00:11:20.280
vodka a day, frequenting strip joints around Washington, DC, cheating on his wife, left,
00:11:25.380
right, and center, and then got into crack. And then his marriage disintegrated and so on.
00:11:33.200
So when you're looking at him, how does he view his relationship? You know, in reading some of the
00:11:46.700
emails from the laptop, he seems to be crying out for love and attention, which would make sense with
00:11:57.020
what you just said. But he also seems to resent his father, maybe, and what he says, the role he's had
00:12:07.140
to play for the family in making the money for the family, and then dad taking 50% of that. Can you go
00:12:15.780
into that at all, the relationship with the family and the brother and how this, I mean, really, to me,
00:12:23.540
it looks like a crime family. How does this work? What roles does everybody play?
00:12:30.380
Well, that's insightful of you, because he really, Hunter was very ambivalent about his father and
00:12:37.200
his brother. He hero-worshipped his father and his brother. He really does love them. But by the same
00:12:45.540
token, he really resents the fact that he's always been seen as the little brother trailing along
00:12:53.140
behind the golden boy. Joe Biden has this sort of old-fashioned idea of the firstborn son. He was
00:13:00.200
the firstborn son. Joe Biden was put on a pedestal by his family. And so he put Beau on a pedestal.
00:13:08.560
And, you know, everybody else's role in Joe Biden's own family was to serve the great number one son.
00:13:15.440
And it was the same way with Hunter Biden. He was expected to, you know, be at Beau's service. And
00:13:22.240
the way it worked was Joe Biden and Beau Biden were political. Joe had great hopes as a, you know,
00:13:30.560
a guy who was trying to imitate the Kennedy clan without the money. He saw Beau Biden as his, you
00:13:37.500
know, JFK, his golden boy, the president who would carry the Biden legacy. And so Beau Biden and Joe
00:13:46.080
were supposed to stay squeaky clean when it came to money. And Hunter Biden was assigned the role as
00:13:52.040
the bag man of the family, as the earner. So straight out of college, I mean, basically, Joe got him into
00:13:58.220
Yale Law School. You know, strings were pulled straight out of there. He got him into a grace and favour job with
00:14:06.320
one of his big donors in Delaware, MBNA, a big credit card company that had benefited a lot from
00:14:11.580
Joe Biden's favours that he did them in the Senate. And so, you know, Hunter was getting these
00:14:16.980
jobs at wildly inflated salaries. And with that money, he was expected to pay and did pay and was
00:14:26.100
bitterly resented that he had to pay bills for the family. He paid his tuition and his brother Beau's
00:14:32.680
tuition, for instance. And an entire extended Biden family. Hunter was the rainmaker. And he got these
00:14:45.200
jobs not through anything. I mean, his entire CV is built on jobs and deals that he only got through
00:14:53.420
his father. And so that was the scheme. Joe would manipulate and, you know, his power and influence
00:15:03.160
and do favours. A lot of Tammany Hall-style favour trading that he's been doing for decades,
00:15:08.580
four decades in Delaware from his earliest days. And the money, the bribes, let's call them,
00:15:15.320
the favours went to Hunter, also his brother, Jim Biden, Joe's younger brother, Jim Biden,
00:15:22.860
who also was very much at Joe's service all his adult life. And also, it wasn't always cash. I mean,
00:15:31.140
it was just the Biden extended family lived a life of immense privilege. Everything that, you know,
00:15:37.500
entry into Ivy League colleges, you know, judge clerkships, you know, overseas postings, government
00:15:46.560
sinecures, you name it, whatever was there for the taking, they just were like in a candy shop,
00:15:53.200
they would have whatever they wanted. And it's ironic then, you know, hearing Joe Biden rail
00:15:57.060
against white privilege on his family was the very embodiment of it. If you're one of the millions of
00:16:02.740
Americans who suffer every day from pain, listen up. I want you to know there is hope,
00:16:06.720
and it comes in the form of relief factor. Every day I read testimonials from people all over the
00:16:12.420
country who have tried relief factor for their pain and gotten their life back. Honestly, I didn't
00:16:17.100
think it was going to work for me because, oh, I'm going to write you a prescription. Now be careful
00:16:21.860
with this ibuprofen 800. I couldn't get anything to reduce my pain. And honestly, ibuprofen, I used to
00:16:31.080
hear, oh, shrink inflammation. It doesn't do anything for me. This, however, attacks inflammation
00:16:38.520
from four different directions where ibuprofen only hits it once. Four different directions. And I think
00:16:44.780
that's why it works for me and so many other people. 70% of the people who try relief factor for the
00:16:50.620
first three weeks go on to order more month after month. See if it works for you. It's $19.95 for the
00:16:56.980
three week trial pack. It's relieffactor.com, relieffactor.com. When you look at Joe Biden,
00:17:04.720
because I want to come back to Hunter, but I want to look at his brother and Joe first,
00:17:11.540
Joe and Jim. Did they grow up corrupt? I mean, where did this seeming lack of any kind of integrity
00:17:23.460
and familial enrichment come from? Do you have any idea?
00:17:31.920
Yeah. Look, there is so much mythology that Joe Biden has built around his family origins. And in
00:17:38.840
fact, his entire life is a myth. And you see, he lives in a fantasy world. The lies and the plagiarism
00:17:46.620
are all symptoms of that. But he's done this from an early age. And I think, in part, it's because
00:17:54.180
his father, he talks about as, you know, this very rich man who rode with the hounds and, you know,
00:18:02.460
played polo. And apparently he did. I mean, he lived in Long Island. And this is Joe Senior. And
00:18:11.580
mixed with the sort of like the Great Gatsby style families then, but lived in modest circumstances
00:18:19.640
and was an aspirationally social climber. And that was very important to him. He dressed very well,
00:18:25.160
just as Joe Biden dresses very well now. I mean, now something happened. I haven't quite got to the
00:18:30.340
bottom of it. Something happened to Joe Biden Senior. Many lies have been told about it. It's been
00:18:36.780
hidden from family folklore. But I'm told that it was something that reflected poorly on his
00:18:41.820
integrity. This was a great blow to the family. They had to move back in with Joe's mother's
00:18:50.220
family in Scranton. This were the Finnegans. And there's a fabulous black and white photo that I found
00:18:58.820
of Joe's parents and his mother's parents outside this house, you know, quite nice house in Scranton.
00:19:08.520
And they're dressed up in their sort of Sunday finest, looking quite sombre and respectable, you know,
00:19:13.600
very lace curtain Irish respectable. And then, but there's this very handsome devil-made hair, dark,
00:19:23.120
tall, dark and handsome man there. And that's Joe's father. And he's got a cheeky grin on his face and
00:19:29.760
he's holding a highball. You know, he's holding a drink in his hand. So he obviously, he's, you know,
00:19:39.420
he was a mischief maker. He was in all sorts of trouble, but I guess fun and an adventure. He tried
00:19:46.540
all sorts of different jobs. He had a very good job. His father got him at the local
00:19:51.940
DuPont, one of the DuPont businesses. And his father was a quite senior manager. And so he got
00:19:59.420
his son this job, but obviously Joe Senior thought this was a boring job and basically uprooted his
00:20:05.940
wife and, you know, young child and tried a few different jobs. He went into business with a relative
00:20:12.420
who had a really lucrative job during the war, spray painting some sort of epoxy or some sort of
00:20:19.740
coating on onto marine ships. And so Joe, Joe Senior could have made money there, but he wanted
00:20:24.420
to move on. He started a crop dusting business in Long Island and various other things, furniture
00:20:29.120
business. They all collapsed. And so with an exception of his dad's success, this sounds
00:20:38.600
very Kennedy. Yeah. Yeah. Except that his father never made anything with himself. And he ended up
00:20:46.840
a towel between his legs, you know, I guess wanting to get out of the in-laws house. It was quite cramped
00:20:52.540
because there were other relatives there. And they, they moved away then and to Delaware and he got a
00:20:59.060
job as a used car salesman. But, but the mythology that he built up around his own life that I guess
00:21:04.820
his wife did, Joe imbibed that from an early age that you tell tall tales to make, make yourself look
00:21:12.240
better. And you have him in some ways, Joe Biden being Joe P. Kennedy, right? Isn't that the father,
00:21:20.880
Joe Kennedy? And then the chosen son dies. And then the next son is John F. Kennedy. And he's known as a
00:21:31.980
screw off in the family, but he pulls it together and they build this empire. That's kind of what
00:21:37.920
happened, except Joe just became the president instead, which Joe P. Kennedy would have done,
00:21:45.440
I think, if he would have run out of sons. Yeah. I mean, look, I think you're looking at Hunter,
00:21:52.780
you're saying Hunter is Ted Kennedy, really? Yeah. Yeah. But with a crack habit. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean,
00:21:59.840
Joe would love talking about him and the Kennedys in the same breath because really he was obsessed by
00:22:05.240
them, I guess, as you would be growing up in his era and as an Irish Catholic. So, so we, we now have
00:22:13.400
the death of Beau and that's 2017, right? Something like that. 2015, I think. 2015. 2015, I think. So,
00:22:23.440
yeah. Hunter's marriage is falling apart. He's doing drugs, everything else. Does he, is he a good
00:22:30.480
lawyer even or good business? Is he, when he's sober, was he good at anything other than graft?
00:22:38.580
No, not really. I mean, look, every job he had was through his father and he didn't like doing
00:22:47.260
this stuff. He wanted to be an artist. He wanted to be an author. I mean, he was, when he first met
00:22:52.420
his wife, he was, you know, reading Kerouac and sort of being a poet and, and he sort of had this
00:22:58.180
romantic notion of himself like that. And, but, you know, family loyalty or, I mean, he, he had a role
00:23:04.980
within the family and he had to fulfill it. And, um, he, he, look, I've seen no evidence that he
00:23:11.100
ever did anything that was useful. And his partners that I've talked to have said that he was useless.
00:23:16.620
He was just the halo effect. It was just the Biden name. Um, he, he barely answered his emails. Um,
00:23:22.600
and, and look, he was off his face for most of the nine years that the laptop covers. Um,
00:23:28.360
he was pretty much continually on drugs with rehab stints in between.
00:23:31.780
So you have him, um, his marriage is breaking up. He's on crack. He's cheating on his wife.
00:23:37.620
They break up with his, with his, uh, sister-in-law. Oh, that happened while,
00:23:43.480
uh, Bo was alive. Um, look, I'm not going to say that because I haven't got evidence for it.
00:23:50.880
Some people say that, um, Kathleen, his, uh, Hunter's ex-wife, uh, believes it, um, that they
00:23:56.920
were on, uh, Hunter and, um, Hallie, the widow of Bo were on within days of the funeral. Um,
00:24:04.560
and they certainly were very familiar with each other, uh, you know, early on.
00:24:09.080
And so he kind of wrecks her life. She ends up, she ends up doing crack, right?
00:24:23.040
Well, look, um, she's, she was quite sensible that their, their relationship was almost entirely
00:24:29.820
stormy and tormented. Uh, there's, you know, so many, he's like a, a little girl in his text
00:24:37.320
exchanges with her. Um, he, he's endlessly talking about his emotions and, uh, how, how aggrieved he is.
00:24:44.560
Whereas he's cheating on her. He's doing drugs. He's lying to her. And yet he's acting aggrieved
00:24:50.800
with her. Um, the women in Hunter's life, uh, boundlessly forgiving, uh, because I guess
00:24:58.400
everybody, um, falls for, or believes, or, I mean, it's true really that he's a lost little boy,
00:25:04.660
uh, lost his mother. He's sort of arrested development, obsessed with his penis,
00:25:08.800
always photographing it. Um, and, uh, so women, I mean, you, you can't help,
00:25:14.560
but feel that kind of maternal love for some, a real broken boy who's, who's in, in some ways,
00:25:21.180
uh, you know, a very affectionate, um, I guess, you know, there are things about him that are
00:25:26.280
appealing. Um, so Hallie loved him, but, um, you know, it was obviously, I mean, there was guilt
00:25:32.720
involved, uh, the drugs, the drugs were terrible. I mean, there's one, um, email exchange or I think
00:25:39.160
text exchange between Ashley Biden, who's Hunter's stepsister, who's Jill's daughter, um, and, uh,
00:25:46.780
the sister of Hallie, um, Biden, uh, who he was having an affair with. And she's gone and visited
00:25:52.200
Hallie and Hunter at a house they were living in, in Delaware with Hallie's children. And she's,
00:25:57.420
she's just disgusted by how open their drug use is. She said, I went in there,
00:26:01.940
their drug paraphernalia is everywhere. The place is a mess. Uh, you know, the, the drug dealers are
00:26:08.080
outside, you know, what if the cops run, uh, you know, a license plate search or, you know,
00:26:13.760
she's, she's the widow of the attorney general of Delaware, which was Beau, um, you know, the,
00:26:20.160
the, the, yeah, he's the son of the vice president. This could be a scandal. You've got to do something
00:26:24.560
about it. Um, and Ashley herself had drug issues. She was in rehab a lot, but she could recognize
00:26:30.300
this sort of open recklessness of the life that, um, that Hallie and Hunter were living at that stage.
00:26:35.920
And they were living a few miles from, from Joe and Jill Biden. And that's what Ashley was saying,
00:26:41.020
you know, mom and dad come over to the house and their drug paraphernalia is in open sight.
00:26:47.200
So what, what triggers, how does this get so far out of control? So far, it seems like local Delaware
00:26:57.280
and some banks and everything else, but then to, to graduate to oligarchs and China and, and Moscow,
00:27:08.580
you are in a different world. How, do you know, how does that happen? How do, how do they go from,
00:27:16.300
yeah, I got my son a job and he's going to get some graft over here to an international crime family?
00:27:23.460
Well, I mean, Joe became vice president. That's what changed. I mean, he just
00:27:28.980
internationalized this influence peddling scheme that he and his family had perfected for four
00:27:34.080
decades in Delaware. And, uh, you know, now you had, instead of, uh, you know, credit card companies
00:27:41.080
in Delaware, you had oligarchs in Russia and you had president Xi Jinping in China and all his state
00:27:48.320
owned enterprises. And, uh, I feel like the Chinese had been cultivating Joe Biden from early days. Um,
00:27:56.140
he went, uh, over to China as one of the first senators, um, to go there on sort of an official
00:28:02.360
trip and was wined and dined and came back and was waxing lyrical about how wonderful the Chinese were
00:28:08.100
to the point where the weekly standard mocked him and just said, you know, what a joke it was that he
00:28:13.180
was, uh, you know, basically, you know, a bought up spokesman for the Chinese, for the CCP. Um, so,
00:28:22.600
uh, he was, he was ripe for the plucking. And so when, um, president Xi Jinping became vice president,
00:28:29.740
um, he, he sort of sought out, uh, there were many meetings and president Obama, Joe Biden claims,
00:28:36.180
uh, said to him that he should get friendly with the vice president when he was vice president,
00:28:40.580
the two vice presidents to get, get together. So that's why Joe Biden boasts a lot about all the
00:28:46.080
hundreds of hours he's had face to face with Xi Jinping. And they have known each other for a
00:28:50.080
long time. And Xi Jinping is a, you know, chemical engineer, highly intelligent. Um, and, you know,
00:28:55.760
what he made of Joe Biden's tall tales and babbling, um, who knows, but obviously he saw a weakness here.
00:29:03.000
And, um, and so there's a lot of conversation sort of coded, uh, speeches and so on, both of them that
00:29:09.680
are on the public record where Joe Biden talks often about the personal relationship and how we
00:29:15.860
show each other, uh, our fealty by our personal relationships and, um, you know, all this stuff,
00:29:21.880
which is, and, and then, uh, president Xi saying, well, we're going to open up China to foreign
00:29:28.060
investors. And, you know, this is a time when Joe Biden is vice president with carriage for, um,
00:29:34.880
China and obviously Russia and Ukraine as well. Um, and Obama really kind of stepped out and
00:29:41.440
relinquished his responsibility to Joe Biden. And so Joe was representing the United States of America.
00:29:47.780
He was, you know, the second most powerful man in the world and he was out of his depth and easily led
00:29:53.900
and also very venal. So, uh, when he flew his son Hunter, the bag man, um, into, uh, Beijing in 2013,
00:30:02.780
um, for these high level meetings with, um, president Xi Jinping and the top CCP members,
00:30:11.040
uh, Joe Biden, um, when Hunter walked up down the steps of Air Force Two, it was crystal clear to the
00:30:18.280
Chinese what was happening. Um, you know, I've said this before, but it was, this was, uh, you know,
00:30:23.720
American power come to do private business. Um, Hunter Biden was recognized by the Chinese as what
00:30:30.320
they call a princeling because, you know, in these countries, you don't pay the bribe to the top
00:30:35.820
official, you pay it to their son or their daughter. And so Hunter came with the imprimatur of Joe.
00:30:41.800
Joe, uh, went into a private meeting and shook hands with his, um, new business partner who was
00:30:49.080
tipping him into 10% of this private equity fund, BHR, um, that ended up having two and a half billion
00:30:55.680
dollars under management. It's important, I think, to point out that even Goldman Sachs didn't have
00:31:02.140
this. No one had a deal like Hunter Biden did. No one did. And he had no experience in this.
00:31:09.240
No, very good point. Exactly. So what is the, first of all, well, let me ask this first.
00:31:17.360
What did the Chinese get out of this? Is there anything, because this is, this is the word game
00:31:24.420
I'm hearing now. A Joe didn't know anything about it. And there's no record of any tit for tat. There's
00:31:33.700
no record of any favors being done for the Chinese. Well, I mean, it's just corruption. You know,
00:31:41.520
you corrupt, uh, the future president of the United States, um, and you have blackmail opportunities.
00:31:49.080
You don't even have to outright blackmail, just, uh, gently, you know, press your case. Um, you know,
00:31:55.680
if you, if you, if you own the guy that you have corrupted effectively. And so I don't know,
00:32:02.580
I can't read inside Joe Biden's mind whether he is compromised. Uh, but I mean, certainly,
00:32:09.220
you know, any, um, reading of corruption anywhere in the world, um, when the, the son of a top
00:32:16.900
official is given millions of dollars, um, that person is compromised. I mean, that's why there
00:32:22.000
are rules against it. Right. So, um, I don't know. And it's the same thing with, uh, Russia and Ukraine,
00:32:27.980
uh, also millions of dollars went from those countries and oligarchs there into the coffers of
00:32:35.060
the Biden family and their associates. Um, I mean, we have the receipts for those and senators
00:32:41.260
Johnson and Grasley have been like posting them up in Congress, uh, for the last few weeks. And
00:32:46.840
their, their inquiry was, their investigation was brilliant. They had, um, you know, the financial
00:32:52.820
trail, the money trail that only they could get, uh, from the treasury department of these suspicious
00:32:57.700
activity reports, again, millions of dollars flowing into Biden and associate, uh, bank accounts.
00:33:04.040
So, um, it's just, it's not a question of whether the money came in and it's not a question of whether
00:33:11.000
Joe Biden is implicated, um, because it's his son, but there is also evidence on the laptop that he
00:33:17.920
financially benefited that Hunter Biden, uh, and Joe Biden's finances were co-mingled, uh, in, you know,
00:33:25.180
extraordinary ways. The extraordinary, um, uh, email that always hits me. And I don't know if
00:33:31.840
it's true or not, but he said, you know, you guys haven't had to do all this dirty work of dad.
00:33:37.960
I'm the one doing it. And then I'm the one that has to pay 50% or whatever the percent was
00:33:43.220
to dad. Is that true? Or is that just the rantings of a drug addict?
00:33:49.920
Well, I can't, I couldn't find evidence that he paid 50% to dad, which is what he said, but I did
00:33:56.920
find evidence of payments to dad, but also just, they had shared bank accounts, they'd shared debit
00:34:02.840
card, debit accounts, um, money. Yeah. And money would come in to, uh, you know, like there's a tax
00:34:13.480
refund check for Joe that went into one of their shared bank accounts and there's discussion there
00:34:18.820
about what to do with it. Um, you know, Hunter's business partner, Eric Schwerin kind of ran all
00:34:25.480
his tax and, and covered for him when he was off on a bender. Um, he was also helping Joe Biden with
00:34:31.280
his mortgage and, and had access to his accounts. And, you know, I mean, there's just this, the Delaware
00:34:37.400
grand jury, uh, and the investigators there, um, you know, all they have to do is pull on some threads.
00:34:44.200
They've got access to those bank accounts. Um, I know they've subpoenaed bank accounts
00:34:48.720
to do with, um, Hunter Biden and Jim Biden and some of their partners, including Eric Schwerin. Um, so
00:34:55.800
they, they know all this, uh, it doesn't take much to lead to the president.
00:35:01.860
Throughout the whole world, the leading cause of death is abortion. In the U S murder has become
00:35:10.920
a wholesale business since Roe versus Wade. We've killed over 63 million children. Nearly 25% of
00:35:18.640
pregnant mothers don't choose life. That's remarkable. Well, the ministry of pre-born and
00:35:25.820
blaze media are proud to partner to help rescue 50,000 babies from abortion in 2022. Can you imagine?
00:35:33.280
Is there anything that anything better than this pre-born is the direct competition to
00:35:39.420
Planned Parenthood? It's the largest provider of free ultrasounds. That's the magic sauce.
00:35:45.460
When you let a woman see her baby on ultrasound and hear the heartbeat, she's 80% more likely to
00:35:51.700
choose life for her baby. So pre-born partners with clinics, the highest abortion rate cities all
00:35:57.860
across the country. I'd like to see them in every city, wherever there is a chance that somebody's
00:36:03.840
going to have an abortion. They need to be there, but let's start with just saving the babies in some
00:36:09.120
of these big cities. Pre-born has a passion to save unborn babies from abortion and bring people to
00:36:16.400
Christ. Pre-born centers counseled over 450,000 women who have been considering abortion and 188,000
00:36:25.040
babies have been saved. Will you help rescue the baby's life? Donate, dial pound two 50, say the
00:36:31.360
keyword baby, pound two 50 keyword baby, or go to preborn.com slash Glenn. Tell me the most disturbing
00:36:41.900
non-sexual. I don't, I don't, I mean, I think that says a lot about him, but it's not the important
00:36:48.220
stuff. Tell me the most disturbing thing you saw from the son of the president of the United States.
00:36:57.440
What's the one thing that people could hang their hat on and go, yeah, uh, this family should not be
00:37:05.360
anywhere near power. Well, look, I think the most shocking, the most shocked I was, and then I had
00:37:13.980
to actually push myself away from the computer and just go for a walk and clear my head because I
00:37:18.520
could not believe it. Um, and you know, I verified it with other people outside the laptop because the
00:37:24.640
laptop is not, uh, not enough, uh, to, to put this jigsaw puzzle together. Uh, you need Tony
00:37:30.260
Bobulinski's material, Chuck Grassley's, uh, and Ron Johnson's material and so on. But what I was
00:37:36.580
shocked by was, um, the, the final deal, uh, that they were doing in this joint venture with CEFC,
00:37:44.440
this Chinese energy company, which is not just a company. It is the capitalist, um, of the CCP's
00:37:52.220
Belt and Road Initiative, President Xi's pet project, which is, uh, basically for world
00:37:57.920
domination. Uh, they, they, this Belt and Road project moves in, buys up infrastructure in
00:38:04.340
poor companies, poor countries, lends them, um, huge amounts of money that they can never
00:38:10.060
debt traps that they could never pay back. Right. No. So China then owes them. And that's all about
00:38:16.160
China, uh, uh, superseding America as the world's economic superpower. So, so this is a, you know,
00:38:22.720
this is a, uh, an, like, this is an act of war, really economic war against the United States and
00:38:28.800
the Biden family, Hunter, Jim and Joe are, uh, joint venture partners with CEFC. Now, to be fair,
00:38:37.820
this is after Joe Biden has left the vice presidency for the last two years, but, but also for the last
00:38:44.480
two years of his vice presidency, they, the Hunter and his partners have been doing work, uh, opening
00:38:51.380
doors, using his name, uh, for the Belt and Road Initiative for CEFC around the world, Romania and
00:38:57.380
Kazakhstan and places. Um, and so the payments they got were made after Joe stepped down as vice
00:39:02.940
president, but they were for work they did while he was vice president. So, you know, they were
00:39:06.860
candy like that. But, but anyway, the, the shocking thing was when I found that there was a deal that
00:39:13.560
was being done between president Xi Jinping and, uh, Vladimir Putin for China to buy a big chunk of
00:39:21.960
Rosneft, which is the Russian state owned energy company. And that was a deal that was being brokered
00:39:27.920
by CEFC on behalf of president Xi. This would have been, this would have shaken, uh, you know,
00:39:33.860
the geopolitical, uh, power structure. Uh, it would have been terribly damaging for the United States.
00:39:40.400
Um, this was China and Russia getting into bed together reluctantly on Putin's part. He didn't
00:39:46.720
really want to do that, but he was forced to because there were some really punitive sanctions
00:39:51.320
placed on Russia after the downing of MH17 over Ukraine. Remember, I mean, this, these, these countries
00:39:58.820
all come back again. And, um, that was the roots of the problem. And so he was forced into the arms
00:40:04.660
of president Xi, who's obviously his country is energy poor. He's desperate for energy. Um,
00:40:10.300
and so this deal, um, the biggest deal China had ever done, um, you know, I can't remember the value,
00:40:16.060
but it was, you know, over a billion dollars. Um, and, and, you know, Hunter Biden knew about it and
00:40:21.700
was talking, gossiping about it with people on what, with, you know, Bob Linsky and so on,
00:40:25.560
on WhatsApp messages. He knew that Putin and, um, and, and Xi were going to meet, uh, one of
00:40:32.300
their business partners at CEFC, Director Zhang, uh, posted a photograph of himself negotiating part
00:40:38.300
of this deal with Vladimir Putin and a judo, uh, competition in Japan. Um, and this was all,
00:40:45.020
uh, Jim Biden, who's this bumbling fool, Hunter Biden, who's this crackhead. They're right in the
00:40:50.620
middle of this just mind blowing, um, power deal between Russia and China that would have
00:40:57.800
affected our national security, uh, unbelievably. And so that was, uh, bad enough, but also when you
00:41:04.100
realize that Joe Biden's intention was to, um, get, you know, go into business, uh, as part of
00:41:12.380
CEFC America that was starting up a branch of this Belt and Road Initiative in, uh, in Hunter's
00:41:20.280
office in Georgetown. And he got nameplates made for his father and for him. And it was got, and also
00:41:27.940
one of the Chinese guys. And it, the nameplate said CEFC America. He got keys made for his dad,
00:41:34.080
his mother, and various other people for this office. Now, the only reason CEFC America never
00:41:38.960
got off the ground was because CEFC collapsed when the Southern District of New York arrested,
00:41:44.680
uh, one of the CEFC people, Patrick Ho, um, at JFK. And that led to President Xi obviously panicking.
00:41:54.080
So the, the chairman of CEFC, Hunter's great mate, Chairman Yee, um, who had an apartment penthouse
00:42:00.660
in Limestone Jesus here in Manhattan that Hunter used to go over to all the time and Chairman Yee
00:42:06.520
would cook him dinner. And, um, he was, he, Chairman Yee was in China, summoned to China,
00:42:12.240
disappeared, uh, believed, murdered. Hunter certainly believes he was murdered. Um,
00:42:17.180
CEFC collapsed. Uh, China had to pay Russia $200 million compensation for that Rosneft deal that blew
00:42:23.800
up. Um, and, and that was it. And then this was all, I think, because the Trumps were, you know,
00:42:30.340
Donald Trump was in, um, he, his, uh, attorney general at the time, Jeff Sessions had issued this
00:42:36.600
memo to, to all the DAs, uh, you know, including the Southern District, um, that they're, uh, they had
00:42:42.780
to concentrate now on stopping, you know, China, Chinese corruption of business and so on in America.
00:42:48.660
So, uh, whether that was wrapped into the Southern District's desire to go and wrap up Patrick
00:42:54.060
cove of it, he was corrupting, um, United Nations people, um, who knows, but, but the fact is that
00:43:00.800
that thing collapsed. And so the deal never went ahead, but Hunter still got, um, you know, there's,
00:43:07.360
there's evidence of about, um, $13 million that came into the coffers of Hunter and his various
00:43:13.720
business partners. You know, I've, I've learned something dealing with the left a lot of times,
00:43:18.700
not always, but a lot of times they self-diagnose what they accuse someone of doing.
00:43:24.060
It's usually like, Oh, okay. That's what you're doing. Um, yeah. And the, the Trump allegations,
00:43:31.200
especially that they go back to Ukraine is mind boggling because everyone seemed to be
00:43:40.240
using that as a piggy bank money laundering machine. I don't know, but it, it was the corruption
00:43:47.880
from the United States there was big business and Joe and his son were a big part of it.
00:43:56.140
Yeah. And the Clintons and the Clintons. Yeah. I mean, yeah. The chutzpah of the Democrats
00:44:02.440
to turn around the corruption that was going on with the Bidens in Ukraine and turn it back
00:44:08.520
on Donald Trump who, you know, sure. I mean, he was clumsy in the way he went about asking the
00:44:15.360
questions of Zelensky to try and dig into the corruption, but you know, so what, um, that,
00:44:21.660
that wasn't anywhere near the, the malfeasance that was going on. And, and people in the state
00:44:28.160
department who actually testified against Donald Trump in his impeachment, um, they were, they
00:44:37.540
had previously behind the scenes been voicing their concerns about Hunter, um, earning, you
00:44:44.400
know, a million dollars a year from this corrupt energy company, Burisma, while Joe as vice president
00:44:50.200
is flying frequently into Kiev and giving these thundering speeches about corruption, lecturing
00:44:56.000
them back in real corruption. And, you know, a guy called Amos Hochstein, who is a mid-level
00:45:02.320
guy at the, at the state department, um, actually went to Joe in his office and said to him face
00:45:08.500
to face, this is a problem. And the Russians are using the fact your son is on this, the
00:45:13.980
board to just undermine the U S attempts at, uh, corruption and to paint us as, uh, you know,
00:45:20.060
as bad as, as everyone else. And, uh, he also, nothing happened. He also buttonholed
00:45:25.840
the vice president on Air Force Two on the way to Kiev one time. Again, nothing happened except
00:45:32.160
that Joe told Hunter that to contact Amos Hochstein and have a cup of coffee with him, which he did.
00:45:38.800
They went and had a cup of coffee near the White House. Uh, Amos Hochstein, uh, testified to the
00:45:45.240
Johnson-Grasley inquiry that, um, he didn't say to Hunter that he should step off the board of,
00:45:50.740
uh, Burisma cause he didn't think it was his role to, to do that. But, um, he made it crystal clear
00:45:57.500
that this was a problem for the United States and our interests. Uh, but Hunter did not, uh, step off
00:46:03.260
the board until the very last minute of his father's campaign. So he earned $4 million. Um, and you know,
00:46:10.260
it was, I mean, I always come back to, in terms of what Joe Biden is like as a father,
00:46:16.700
because he's always portraying himself as this great father, a great family man. What father
00:46:21.540
puts his drug addicted son in front of an unaccountable torrent of cash? Uh, you know,
00:46:29.560
that was when Hunter even says in his memoir that when the Burisma money started coming in $83,000 a
00:46:36.160
month plus, um, that was when the temptation to get back, fall off the wagon got overwhelming
00:46:42.560
for him. I have to tell you, I think the one of my problems with the Biden family is a, as an
00:46:53.340
alcoholic, you just destroyed your son. Okay. You did everything wrong. Okay. Um, and then on top of
00:47:05.160
it, the family, when dad, I mean, I don't mean this with any malice. Honestly, I don't. Dad is
00:47:13.140
embarrassed, embarrassing right now. He is not up to the task. And, you know, let's say there's no
00:47:20.800
corruption. The guy had a distinguished career and you're going to let him go out like this. And it
00:47:27.840
doesn't seem like the family has even had a speed bump on that idea. Or I'd be ashamed if my family,
00:47:36.180
when I got to that point in my life, take the keys away from dad. Okay. It's time. It's time.
00:47:43.260
Does that make sense to you? It doesn't seem to be any real familial protection
00:47:48.320
of anything other than money or name. Yeah. Money and power, all the perks that office
00:47:56.640
press, which they all sucked at that, uh, that generous tub. Um, yeah, but look, Joe Biden was
00:48:03.180
desperate to be president again. Um, you know, I, there were, there were sort of family conferences
00:48:08.680
about it and, uh, you know, I mean, Hunter and a few of the others were worried because it was going
00:48:15.060
to put the pressure on them. Um, but they supported his father. I think Jill Biden is the one. I mean,
00:48:20.140
where was she when Obama came to the white house and Joe is wandering around being snubbed by the
00:48:26.860
mean girls, Barack Obama and Kamala Harris. Um, where was she? Because Kamala Harris's husband was
00:48:34.200
there, the second gentleman, he was trailing around ready to rescue Kamala if she needed it.
00:48:40.040
No one was there. Where were Joe's staff? Um, I mean, I, you know, I'm a great
00:48:44.780
critic of Joe Biden for everything that he's done. I mean, I think he's compromised America's
00:48:48.920
national security. He's hopelessly venal. Um, but, uh, I, I felt sorry for him.
00:48:56.440
And also you don't treat the president of the United States like this.
00:49:04.820
So, you know, I look at as an alcoholic, um, you look back at things that you've done and,
00:49:12.580
and if you were honest, you would look back and say, okay, did I do that kind of subconsciously
00:49:19.260
to sabotage myself? Um, because subconsciously I know I'm completely out of control and I want to
00:49:27.100
stop. Um, is that why it, I mean, is there a chance that's why that laptop was left? I mean,
00:49:35.340
it was, is it, was there ever any cry for help on this or is it just the guy is
00:49:41.880
completely out of control and the secret service aren't going to stop him? The government's not
00:49:49.220
going to stop it. It's just do it until it burns itself to the ground.
00:49:55.480
Well, look, I, you know, if you take a Freudian reading of, uh, Hunter abandoning his laptop
00:50:01.300
in that MacBook repair shop in Delaware in April of 2019, just a few days before his father announces
00:50:07.720
his last ditch attempt to run for president. Um, you know, the timing itself is suspect,
00:50:14.300
but also if you know, as I do, um, the, the events leading up to that Hunter was raging against his
00:50:21.960
father and the entire family. He felt they were disrespecting him here. He had spent 30 years
00:50:27.380
earning money for them. Um, he was now in dire straits. Um, his business had collapsed. He was
00:50:35.160
broke. Um, his life was just a disaster and they were treating him, uh, like he was an embarrassment
00:50:41.960
and trying to airbrush him out of the picture. He was particularly incensed by a Maureen Dowd column
00:50:46.680
that had obviously been backgrounded by, if not Joe, but I mean, Maureen's his favorite columnist,
00:50:52.160
uh, as Hunter said, um, or at least his staff, uh, basically saying that Hunter's just a hopeless
00:50:58.700
mess. Um, we just need to, you know, ignore him. Hunter was infuriated by that and, um, you know,
00:51:06.040
really, uh, kind of was manipulating his father. And now that there was no bow around manipulating his
00:51:12.720
father, um, to get his attention and get him under his control, really Hunter is very intelligent,
00:51:18.160
much more intelligent than Joe Biden. So, um, if you had to, and I know this is a pure guess,
00:51:25.960
but, um, I've never seen a president be this compromised going in and everybody knows it.
00:51:33.920
Um, everybody knew that that laptop was at least partially true. Um, everybody, uh, covered it up,
00:51:44.100
covered for it. No, even Hunter though, knew this is going to, this is going to explode in our face,
00:51:51.320
I think. So if they go after Hunter and he's facing real prison time, I don't have the sense that
00:52:02.420
he's not going to squeal on his dad. He'll pull, he seems to be the kind of guy that will pull all
00:52:09.820
these people in that have been right alongside him. So does, does Joe ever face justice? Does
00:52:19.980
Hunter face justice? And what do the family dynamics tell you on how they're going to handle that?
00:52:28.120
I don't really see Hunter shopping his father to tell you the truth. Um, I think he'll rely on his
00:52:35.660
father using what power he has, which is a lot, um, to pardon him and to, uh, just pull strings
00:52:42.360
and make sure that he's okay. Um, I think that yes, um, there's so much evidence, um, you know,
00:52:50.840
whether it be tax evasion, money laundering, foreign lobbying, um, violations, um, that the grand jury is
00:52:57.540
looking at. We know that the grand jury has been asking witnesses who is the big guy. Um,
00:53:03.620
and we know that the big guy is Joe Biden. So they are pulling the threads that would lead them to
00:53:09.140
the president. Um, whether they stop before they get there, um, you know, who knows, but I feel that
00:53:17.460
Hunter is going to rely on a pardon and Joe, um, will wait, will try and push it out as long as he can
00:53:26.060
to, to the end of his presidency, whether that be at the 24 election or before.
00:53:31.020
Uh, let me switch topics. I saw a, I saw a video, uh, today of Joe Scarborough, who I was shocked that
00:53:45.600
he still had his own show, but apparently it's still on MSNBC. And, um, he was saying how horrible
00:53:53.200
this is about Facebook and Twitter and how they buried this story. Well, we went, we went back in
00:53:59.620
the archives and found him ranting and raving about how evil the post is and how all of these
00:54:06.680
conservatives knew exactly what they were doing. And this is all Russian propaganda. The, the media
00:54:12.520
is, I mean, shocking how brazen they are and how stupid they must think we are. Um, but let's go
00:54:24.080
into the media a bit. You were there, you, you were pulled into this. Um, what did you think when
00:54:32.860
you first saw that the laptop existed? How skeptical what, what happened? Tell me the backstory.
00:54:39.700
Well, um, I was just at home in Manhattan late one night and, um, I get a text message from Bob
00:54:49.440
Costello, who's Rudy Giuliani's lawyer. Uh, and you know, a serious lawyer. I mean, he was deputy
00:54:55.580
criminal head of the criminal division of the Southern District of New York. So this guy has a
00:54:59.260
mind like a steel trap and very credible. So he sends me, um, I think it was four or five photographs
00:55:07.300
from the laptop. And he says, uh, I have something to talk to you about. Um, this is just to show you,
00:55:13.960
he said, there's tens of thousands of images and documents. Um, you know, would you be interested in
00:55:18.840
some course? So the next day I have a conversation with him and also with Rudy Giuliani. At that stage,
00:55:25.440
they had had, um, the hard drive, um, since end of August. Uh, and we're talking now, um, the beginning
00:55:32.720
of October and, um, they had done their due diligence on the material as far as they could,
00:55:39.100
um, um, on, on the hard drive had satisfied themselves, both hardcore investigators themselves,
00:55:44.520
um, forensic lawyers, um, and they had satisfied themselves that it was real. Um, sort of at the end
00:55:51.020
of their process, they brought Steve Bannon in and asked him for some help on the Chinese.
00:55:55.440
side of it. Um, but they had enough and they had found what they believed to be a number of crimes.
00:56:01.560
And so they sort of itemized them in these long conversations. They itemized about the top five,
00:56:06.700
um, emails, evidence of Joe Biden being involved in Hunter Biden's business dealing, something he'd
00:56:12.900
been telling, um, the American public throughout the campaign that he knew nothing about, um, and,
00:56:18.520
and various other things. So, um, and then my excellent colleague, um, Emma-Jo Morris,
00:56:24.100
uh, just did the reporting on it and, you know, basically fact-checked it, um, contacting other
00:56:31.520
recipients of the emails to verify they're true. Um, we sent a reporter down to Delaware to the
00:56:37.060
MacBook repair shop where John Paul MacIsaac, um, you know, we interviewed him and, uh, unfortunately
00:56:42.760
his, his name got, or his address or something, um, was leaked out. And so.
00:56:48.040
So sad. So sad. Yeah. But he, he'll be okay. Um, he's got a book coming out now. So that'll,
00:56:54.960
that'll, yeah. And he's, he's just a wonderful man, a real hero, one of the great heroes of this
00:56:59.200
story. Um, and so, so anyway, then, then, um, you know, Emma-Jo did all her work and the editors
00:57:06.960
and the lawyers were satisfied, uh, that we could go with it. And so kaboom, um, we hit the button.
00:57:13.680
And on October 14, the first story, which was basically around an email that we'd verified,
00:57:19.340
you know, every which way, um, which was from a Burisma executive to Hunter thanking him for,
00:57:25.280
uh, introducing him to his father in Washington DC, um, the night before. And, um, you know,
00:57:32.180
that's all we knew at the time, but we, the white house, uh, just pretended that this hadn't
00:57:37.020
happened. Joe Biden went to ground immediately within hours of that story, um, going up online,
00:57:44.040
Facebook and Twitter censored it and Twitter, in fact, locked down the New York post account
00:57:48.900
for the next two weeks until a few days before the election. Yeah. And the rest of the media ignored
00:57:53.260
it. And then, uh, five days later came the dirty 51 letter from the 51 top former intelligence
00:58:01.220
people without looking at the laptop. They declared it was Russian disinformation two days
00:58:06.500
after that. Obviously it was designed specifically as a partisan political document for Joe Biden to
00:58:11.880
take into his final debate against Donald Trump and, uh, use it to rebut the obvious attack Trump
00:58:17.740
was going to make. And that's exactly what happened. And, uh, Joe Biden just waved this, you know,
00:58:23.620
letter around and said, um, you know, this is basically the intelligence community is saying
00:58:27.980
that that's just garbage. It's Russian disinformation. You're making it up.
00:58:31.220
Can you help me rent Miranda? If, if I'm lied to and I put my name out there, um, I'm really
00:58:41.040
pissed off as a journalist. If my sources are telling me something and I realize you knew the
00:58:48.300
whole time I'm really pissed off, but it doesn't seem like any journalist that was involved in this
00:58:56.440
is upset by what they did. Um, and how they covered for this guy. So I'm left with,
00:59:06.260
they all knew they just, they wanted Joe Biden to win. And so they would do whatever they wanted.
00:59:13.300
Is there any journalist that you have met that is like, you know what? I'm pissed.
00:59:20.840
And I want this settled. I want the truth to come out.
00:59:25.840
No. And, and they're not acting like it anyway, because the stories that they're writing now say,
00:59:30.660
oh yeah, you know, we verified the laptop, the emails and so on. Um, and so now they're just saying
00:59:36.060
laptop's real, but at the same time, they're shaping the narrative again, according to the white house
00:59:40.800
line. And they're saying, yeah, Hunter was a bad guy. Maybe, you know, maybe Jim was a bad guy,
00:59:45.980
but it's got nothing to do with Joe Biden. You saw Ron Klain run that line, uh, with, um, you know,
00:59:52.580
Stephanopoulos on ABC on Sunday. Um, and it's curious that he would make that statement because
00:59:58.540
it is such an intervention in, um, the U S attorney in Delaware's investigation, because what
01:00:05.380
Ron Klain is saying straight from the white house, straight from, you know, the U S attorney,
01:00:10.580
David Weiss's boss, um, or his boss's boss, uh, in the white house is, uh, that guy that you're
01:00:18.100
investigating Hunter Biden, he's innocent and, oh, don't even think about going near Joe Biden
01:00:24.000
because he had nothing to do with it. Like, you know, it's just wrong. And so that's the line that
01:00:30.480
Washington post, New York times, CNN, and everyone else is running as well.
01:00:33.680
So I, I, is there, are we really that void of people in positions, the secret service,
01:00:44.940
the justice department? I mean, they had the laptop long before you saw the laptop. There was no one
01:00:52.980
that came out and said, even anonymously that would be willing to come out and say, this is a lie,
01:00:59.600
or this is very dangerous. There was, are we that void of honor in the secret service and in justice?
01:01:10.580
Uh, look, I don't know. It is really curious. Obviously we know of the malfeasance at the top
01:01:16.920
of the FBI. We know that people like John Brennan, um, Leon Panetta, you know, James Clapper,
01:01:23.680
Michael Hayden, these people signed that letter. Every one of that, those 51 intelligence people
01:01:30.200
who signed that letter, um, is suspect. I mean, they use the authority of their former high office
01:01:36.640
to wade in and, and interfere with the election, basically on behalf of Joe Biden, because it was
01:01:44.260
this existential threat. Donald Trump was, uh, a threat to everything. They felt that they could
01:01:50.720
introduce their own standards, uh, destroy the credibility of the CIA and the FBI, uh, the NSA
01:01:57.440
and so on. Um, because that was an, it was so important to make sure that Trump didn't win the
01:02:02.760
election. Everybody corrupted themselves over Donald Trump. They went mad. Can you give me some hope?
01:02:08.280
You know, then again, let me just make up my own hope and not have you answer that question. I'm not
01:02:15.400
sure. I want the response. Thank you so much for being on, uh, with us. I really appreciate it.
01:02:21.340
Uh, Miranda, the name of the book is the laptop from hell.
01:02:31.000
Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a
01:02:36.360
friend so it can be discovered by other people.