The Glenn Beck Program - May 21, 2022


Ep 147 | 'White Knights' ROB Black People of Their Honor | Delano Squires | The Glenn Beck Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 15 minutes

Words per Minute

157.23482

Word Count

11,813

Sentence Count

855

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

43


Summary

Glenn Beck talks about Abraham Lincoln's 1858 speech at the Republican National Convention and why abortion is as important to Democrats today as slavery was to Democrats in the southern states prior to the Civil War. Glenn also talks about how to deal with the heat in America.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Before we start talking to our guest, it was 1858.
00:00:04.440 It was the Republican State Convention and Abraham Lincoln was getting up to speak.
00:00:12.840 Now, he wasn't even thought about as the next president.
00:00:16.360 And he looked to Christ for answers.
00:00:18.400 And he told the delegates at the convention that America was about to collapse.
00:00:23.240 And he chose the words of Christ, the metaphor about how a house divided against itself can't stand.
00:00:28.900 And Lincoln's friends, his advisors, everybody said, you can't say that.
00:00:32.840 It's too radical, too politically incorrect, as if they would have said that back then.
00:00:37.440 But Lincoln said, and if I can quote, I wanted to strike home to the minds of men in order to rouse them to the peril of the times, end quote.
00:00:49.680 So he gave the speech house divided.
00:00:51.980 And after he gave that line, he said, I do not expect the union to be dissolved.
00:00:58.900 I do not expect the house to fall.
00:01:01.800 But I do expect that it will cease to be divided.
00:01:07.160 It will become all of one thing or all the other.
00:01:13.040 That was two years before the Civil War.
00:01:15.680 In America, we need to stop and look at that broken America then, because it resembles a lot of the America that we live in today.
00:01:29.340 Maybe we have it worse.
00:01:31.220 Maybe we don't.
00:01:32.000 I don't know.
00:01:33.180 Can you imagine Joe Biden trying to give that speech?
00:01:36.020 Just a few days ago, he called himself, you know, the leader of all the country.
00:01:42.200 And yet he called half the country extremists.
00:01:47.520 Today's guest has taken a stand in defense of the nation.
00:01:51.000 In his latest editorial for The Blaze, he wrote that abortion is as important to Democrats in blue states today as slavery was to Democrats in southern states prior to the Civil War.
00:02:04.940 His writing and his commentary has appeared on The Root, The Federalist, Newsweek.
00:02:10.100 He is a contributor to Blaze TV's Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
00:02:14.900 He's a scholar at 1776 Unites and the founder of the Civitas Consulting Group, which focuses on building strong communities by offering STEM K through 12 programs, job training for adults and tech resources for lower income families.
00:02:33.940 He has he has led a life that has quite a bit of experience in the government.
00:02:40.380 Fourteen years.
00:02:41.360 He served as the project coordinator at the office of the chief technology officer, then as the director, executive director at Connect D.C., which connects residents of Washington, D.C. with technology.
00:02:57.140 But his most important job is the one that he says is the toughest job on Earth.
00:03:03.940 Being a dad today on the Glenn Beck podcast, Delano Squires.
00:03:11.040 You know, most people, when you interrogate them, they fold like a cheap suit.
00:03:16.520 Not this guy.
00:03:17.860 You can strap me down to the chair and swing that bright light into my face.
00:03:22.960 And I say, oh, showtime.
00:03:24.960 You could ask me to reveal state secrets all day long.
00:03:29.080 I'll probably tell you, but I will not be sweating.
00:03:33.140 Yeah.
00:03:33.940 Yeah.
00:03:34.480 Yeah.
00:03:35.520 I mean, I'll break so fast, but you'll never see me sweat.
00:03:40.760 Why?
00:03:41.420 Because I just started using the sweat block wipes at night.
00:03:45.920 I've been using their deodorant and antiperspirant stick, but it's now fires a hell hot here in Texas.
00:03:54.360 And I literally walked into the house after being outside for, I don't know, five minutes and just wringing wet.
00:04:02.960 There's nothing like that.
00:04:04.820 OK, here's the thing.
00:04:05.880 If you use sweat block, they're wipes and you once a week wipe the, you know, dab them under your arms and you don't have to do it again for a week.
00:04:17.740 It is amazing.
00:04:19.280 Developed by a Harvard doctor who was a really sweaty mess.
00:04:21.940 And he was like, why?
00:04:23.100 What am I looking for somebody else to come up with a solution to this?
00:04:26.600 He did.
00:04:27.240 You might not suffer from excessive sweating, but I live in Texas.
00:04:34.040 The faucets are on sweat block, a lifesaver for every pitch giving, hardworking, date going average person out there that might live in the heat.
00:04:44.660 If you have teenagers, get them sweat block.
00:04:47.880 Also, try the deodorant stick.
00:04:49.500 Best I've ever tried.
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00:05:08.960 Welcome.
00:05:10.060 How are you?
00:05:11.140 Thank you.
00:05:11.880 It's great to have you.
00:05:12.960 Yeah, it's great to be here.
00:05:14.260 What's your life like?
00:05:15.960 I mean, that's a good question.
00:05:19.200 My life is good.
00:05:20.140 I live a happy, peaceful, contented life.
00:05:24.540 This July, I'll make 10 years of marriage for me and my wife.
00:05:28.120 Nothing better.
00:05:29.140 Three beautiful kids.
00:05:30.760 We decide to homeschool.
00:05:32.700 So our house is full of energy and life and noise.
00:05:37.100 And so it's good.
00:05:38.980 I can't.
00:05:41.920 I'm so frustrated by what is taught in schools, what is taught in the culture.
00:05:47.160 Just on self-esteem.
00:05:53.140 You know, you can't make it.
00:05:55.380 You've been wrong.
00:05:56.380 I don't care who, what color, doesn't matter.
00:05:58.580 You've been wrong.
00:05:59.620 You can't make it.
00:06:00.640 This is against you.
00:06:02.840 Everything is horrible.
00:06:04.300 I don't, I don't know how I would go on.
00:06:08.720 And I wonder if this plays a role with our suicide rates.
00:06:12.280 Yeah.
00:06:12.940 What, what is there to live for, to strive for if you need someone else?
00:06:20.180 It, I've been thinking about this a lot this week and I'm trying to come up with the right
00:06:26.600 words to describe it.
00:06:27.620 And what it is, I feel like the people on the left who cast black people into the role of perpetual victim
00:06:37.280 and oppressed, they're robbing me.
00:06:41.480 Oh yeah.
00:06:42.420 They're robbing me of my agency.
00:06:44.120 They're robbing me of dignity and self-respect or they're trying to rob me.
00:06:47.720 Yeah.
00:06:47.900 Um, and in the same way we would recognize it, conservatives recognize it when someone
00:06:53.580 is accused of stolen valor, right?
00:06:55.520 When they say, I, I was, uh, you know, in the Navy SEALs and I killed bin Laden and it's
00:07:02.540 like, well, you were a reservist stateside.
00:07:04.520 Thank you for your service.
00:07:05.300 But yeah, but you're not what you pretend to be.
00:07:08.920 What the left does, they commit acts of stolen honor and they tell black people, no, it's,
00:07:16.460 you're not responsible for yourself, for your family, your community.
00:07:20.060 We are responsible.
00:07:21.320 Now they do it under the guise of, um, diversity, inclusion, equity, um, of trying to help and
00:07:29.100 solve racial justice issues.
00:07:31.200 But it, it robs me of my ability to fend for myself.
00:07:35.080 It goes everywhere.
00:07:38.840 And it's, it's, um, you know, the first time I saw it really, uh, culture-wide was, um,
00:07:46.460 tarp, the big bailout, no, no, wait, you allow me to fail.
00:07:52.920 If I take failure off the board, I learned nothing.
00:07:57.320 Correct.
00:07:57.600 I learned nothing.
00:07:58.420 And that robs me.
00:07:59.880 That failure being taken away robs me for who I can be if I have to rise above it.
00:08:06.060 Yeah, absolutely.
00:08:06.920 And, and only people in society who we accept having no responsibility for their actions
00:08:11.120 are children.
00:08:11.580 And, and that's what you end up doing.
00:08:13.960 You, you infantilize people when you say that I, right, the benevolent, uh, person who
00:08:21.960 controls all society, I am more responsible for you and your family, your children, and
00:08:27.780 you are for yourself.
00:08:28.540 And I, I resent that quite frankly.
00:08:31.060 Um, I reject it and I, I have no interest in it.
00:08:35.320 So if, if I see, you know, uh, uh, a white person or someone of another ethnic background,
00:08:41.660 the only thing that they owe me is love, which is what the scripture says, like to love one
00:08:46.200 another as, as fellow human beings and image bearers.
00:08:50.000 But other than that, I'm, I'm not interested in white nights.
00:08:53.360 I'd, I'd rush my, I would much rather see, um, more black fathers taking the lead in their
00:08:59.720 homes than to have more white nights, um, trying to, to fill that, trying to fill that
00:09:04.940 role.
00:09:05.360 So yeah, it's, I don't, I don't want anybody trying to rob me of anything.
00:09:11.000 I'm trying to think of my life if there ever has been a white night.
00:09:15.380 Cause I, I wouldn't be for that.
00:09:17.180 I don't want somebody riding up with a horse and saving me, except for the Lord.
00:09:20.940 But he's the only one, which, you know, is, is funny because we have, we think that we
00:09:28.540 don't have enough religion in our society, but I think we have too much, you know, this,
00:09:34.100 this, this entire woke philosophy, black lives matter, all of it, that is a religion and they
00:09:41.820 are high priests and you will perform what they say the ritual is, or you're done.
00:09:48.480 I recently wrote a piece for the blaze.
00:09:51.340 And I, I said that Ibram Kendi is not just the most influential voice on race in this
00:09:57.580 country.
00:09:58.200 He is the most effective evangelist in this country because his worldview has been, um,
00:10:06.160 implemented in K through 12 education and, uh, major corporations through social media
00:10:13.300 in every level of government, the notion that, um, any disparity can be traced back to a disparity
00:10:19.760 between different ethnic groups can be traced back to racist policy.
00:10:23.400 And, and as such, there needs to be affirmative steps taken in the name of anti-racism to erase
00:10:29.520 those disparities.
00:10:30.600 I mean, that's, that's the status quo in, in our government and in our cultural institutions.
00:10:35.540 And he preaches that message regardless of what people believe.
00:10:39.740 And in fact, he says in his own words that racism is death and anti-racism is life.
00:10:45.620 And, and the Christian will recognize that, right?
00:10:48.640 He takes the words of the scriptures that are meant for Christ, right?
00:10:52.840 So sin is death and, and life can, uh, can be found through, through Jesus Christ.
00:10:57.080 And he appropriates them for his campaign.
00:11:00.160 And, and I think one of the things that it actually has done for me is make me a lot more
00:11:05.220 comfortable bringing my faith and public morality into the public square.
00:11:10.440 I don't think there's, you cannot have, at least I can't, I can't have a total encompassing
00:11:18.880 and frank conversation about what's happening in the world without good and evil.
00:11:23.760 Correct.
00:11:23.940 There's just no, there's no way to describe, shout your abortion.
00:11:29.880 You know, there's no forgiveness.
00:11:31.860 That is, I'm not saying the, but I'm saying that's antichrist teaching.
00:11:36.800 Right.
00:11:37.320 And it's the, if you, if you can't see it for the first time, I understand how the two
00:11:43.520 sides, you know, scripture said two sides won't understand each other in those days.
00:11:47.000 Yeah.
00:11:47.520 We're there.
00:11:48.420 And, and, and what we've done in the last couple of years is remove the veneer of
00:11:52.200 neutrality, even in the abortion debate.
00:11:55.080 Some states are going to go to banning abortion after six weeks or the first time any, you
00:12:00.700 know, fetal activity is detected and others are going to go to up until the moment of birth.
00:12:06.440 So the notion of viability or 20 weeks or 24 weeks or some other arbitrary standard is
00:12:13.940 being wiped away before our eyes.
00:12:16.520 And, and increasingly we will see this for more issues.
00:12:19.400 You're either going to be on this side or that side.
00:12:22.780 I've been saying this for 15 years when this hits, and I think we're in it now, when this
00:12:27.760 hits, there will not be any spectators.
00:12:30.700 Right.
00:12:31.000 If you say, I'm not going to choose, you are actually on the field.
00:12:35.280 You've chosen.
00:12:35.700 You've chosen.
00:12:36.740 Yeah.
00:12:37.060 Yeah.
00:12:37.280 And I, and I think you see this in that, and this is important, I think for just the
00:12:41.080 everyday citizen to realize, but also for elected officials, um, or cultural influencers
00:12:48.440 whose instinct is to find a third way because they don't want to be associated with one party
00:12:54.940 or the next.
00:12:55.660 But again, the parties could not be further apart on an issue like abortion.
00:13:00.620 Right.
00:13:01.060 I remember the, the, I should, but wait, hang on just a second.
00:13:04.900 I don't think Mitch McConnell gives a flying crap.
00:13:07.960 I really don't.
00:13:09.100 I really don't.
00:13:09.820 Maybe he does.
00:13:10.640 Right.
00:13:11.280 The parties bother me.
00:13:13.520 Individuals in the party, I think may or may not care.
00:13:19.440 Somehow or another, there's such a disconnect from what I think people believe.
00:13:25.740 Even on the left, come on, nobody believes that you can kill your baby 30 days after life.
00:13:34.120 Right.
00:13:34.420 Okay.
00:13:34.680 Or after birth.
00:13:35.600 Yeah.
00:13:35.700 Nobody believes that unless you're a mangala.
00:13:38.700 Right.
00:13:38.980 Okay.
00:13:39.720 Um, nobody believes that it's a clump of cells and I could give birth to a bald eagle.
00:13:46.860 Okay.
00:13:47.380 It's not going to happen.
00:13:48.860 Right.
00:13:49.020 Everybody knows, but they're, they're in denial.
00:13:53.120 And somehow or another, we've got to connect people to reality and then connect the parties
00:14:02.180 to reality.
00:14:03.540 Yeah.
00:14:03.740 And I think the Democrats in the rest of the country, maybe don't realize what they're empowering
00:14:12.800 right now.
00:14:14.500 Do you, do you think you're at the person you live next door to that might've voted for Joe
00:14:19.580 Biden?
00:14:19.980 Do you really think that they've connected to what's really happening in their name?
00:14:26.840 No.
00:14:27.380 And I think part of that is because most people, even if they vote, they are not, um, partisan
00:14:34.140 in that sense.
00:14:35.420 Right.
00:14:35.660 They're not, um, fanatics when it comes to politics.
00:14:38.760 They vote and, and they're certainly concerned about local issues, but they don't necessarily
00:14:43.760 wear the badge in the same way that the hardened activists do.
00:14:48.740 And those people are opening the door and summoning demons that they're not going to be
00:14:55.060 able to control.
00:14:55.920 Right.
00:14:56.720 Um, and I think you see this and I said this, you know, I've said this in, in, you know,
00:15:00.580 previous venues where when, when you hear the, the abortion absolutist, that's what I call
00:15:06.300 them because I, I like in the moment we're into a second abolitionist movement and I draw
00:15:11.520 direct parallels between the work of Frederick Douglass and the work of Lila Rose with live
00:15:18.060 action.
00:15:19.560 So, so could, uh, spend some time on that before you move on.
00:15:23.860 Okay.
00:15:24.020 Okay.
00:15:24.240 So, so I make that connection cause I think both, you know, um, chattel slavery and abortion,
00:15:31.300 um, they dismiss or deny, uh, human beings as image bearers.
00:15:38.200 Um, they make the value of life conditional on the whims of the owner, whoever, so whether
00:15:46.120 that's slavery and slave owner or abortion and the mother of the child, um, they both
00:15:52.320 employ euphemisms to, to hide the barbarity of each institution.
00:15:56.500 In slavery, it was the peculiar institution and now we have, um, reproductive justice and
00:16:03.320 the woman's right to choose, um, and you know, all the other terms that they use and both have,
00:16:09.340 uh, abolitionists on one side, absolutists on the other side and accommodationists in the
00:16:17.160 middle, um, both in slavery and as it relates to, to abortion.
00:16:21.260 And, and here's the, the one thing I think that sort of wraps around it in some ways is that
00:16:26.500 Democrats today in blue States are as rabidly pro-abortion as Democrats in Southern States
00:16:37.180 were pro-slavery prior to the civil war.
00:16:40.260 Um, so, so that, that's where I draw those, um, those parallels.
00:16:44.840 But in this, in this, uh, uh, uh, abolitionist movement, again, you're, you're going to have
00:16:51.380 to, to choose sides.
00:16:52.660 And I think the, the people who want, you know, again, abortion up on, up until birth,
00:16:57.780 um, that's a small group of, of activists.
00:17:02.420 Yeah.
00:17:03.160 I think a lot of people are sort of caught in the middle because for them, the abortion
00:17:07.400 debate never moves beyond the term of woman's right to choose.
00:17:11.100 Um, so I don't, I don't think they understand what it is that they are doing.
00:17:16.180 Um, and I think as is the case with many issues, they won't understand until the barbarian comes
00:17:23.260 and knocks on their door.
00:17:25.280 Um, so if you have like a middle-aged woman and she's not having any more kids, she's just
00:17:28.900 again thinking, Oh, the woman should have a right to choose.
00:17:31.980 But when it gets to the point where her grandchildren, let's say, let's say she's raising her grandchildren
00:17:37.360 when they are coming home and telling her, Hey, granny, Gigi, Meemaw, my teacher told
00:17:44.520 me that, um, men can get pregnant.
00:17:46.440 And they said, my teacher told me that anybody who thinks that there's only two sexes is a
00:17:50.920 bigot.
00:17:52.040 Now she's going to have to, now she's going to understand my vote, put these people in
00:17:57.120 power and she's going to have to deal with that.
00:17:58.940 They didn't the last time the world went through this, you know, the last time you'll, the Germans
00:18:07.920 did at least, they started making a series of decisions.
00:18:11.260 And then when you get to a certain point, you feel like you can't go back.
00:18:18.040 You know what I mean?
00:18:18.700 Cause that is going to cause you to change.
00:18:21.400 Some brave ones did, but a lot of them didn't, they just kept intentionally blinding themselves
00:18:30.020 to it so they could forgive themselves, I guess, afterwards.
00:18:34.060 Yeah.
00:18:34.540 And I think part of that is human nature, right?
00:18:37.000 You, you don't, once you make an investment, you say, well, I have to keep investing cause
00:18:42.320 I don't, I don't want to lose out on, on what I've invested so far.
00:18:46.280 But at a certain point, the center is not going to hold and it's clearly not holding
00:18:50.060 now.
00:18:51.100 And people are going to have to understand that the, the culture war terminology does
00:18:56.780 not go far enough.
00:18:58.680 I see this as a spiritual war, but even to the extent that we're talking cultural war,
00:19:02.700 it's not just, Oh, both sides say mean things back and forth.
00:19:06.400 It's, and again, to borrow, to, to look at Kendi, Kendi understands that war is about capturing
00:19:13.500 territory.
00:19:14.200 It's not just about firing off a mean tweet.
00:19:18.000 So when he has the federal government and the CDC framing the COVID response as a matter
00:19:26.000 of racial equity and saying that, um, vaccines should be doled out along those lines, that's
00:19:32.680 an institution that's been captured.
00:19:34.540 And, and he has established that all been captured.
00:19:37.900 They've all been captured.
00:19:38.680 Um, when, when the NBA is painting black lives matter or when they have, uh, on the court
00:19:44.480 or when they have the jerseys that say, um, love us and BLM and education equity.
00:19:50.580 These are all institutions that have been captured.
00:19:53.160 The right is afraid to even say things that they know to be true because more than anything,
00:20:00.520 they desire the respectability.
00:20:02.800 Um, and they, they desire, uh, legitimacy from the left.
00:20:08.380 But if we're going to make some headway, um, we're going to have to engage in, in some, some
00:20:14.280 struggle.
00:20:15.060 Oh, I think big struggle.
00:20:16.840 Yeah.
00:20:17.040 Big struggle.
00:20:18.880 Throughout the whole world, the leading cause of death is abortion.
00:20:23.680 In the U S murder has become a wholesale business since Roe versus Wade.
00:20:28.640 We've killed over 63 million children.
00:20:31.960 I don't care what Bette Medler says, uh, Planned Parenthood's not killing children.
00:20:36.900 What are they killing?
00:20:37.560 Bald Eagles?
00:20:38.880 Are you going to give?
00:20:40.040 Yeah.
00:20:40.200 That's what we should tell these people.
00:20:41.660 You know what?
00:20:42.320 That might be a polar bear in there.
00:20:43.960 And then they never abort it.
00:20:45.900 The ministry of pre-born and blaze media have partnered up for a better idea.
00:20:51.900 Um, rescuing 50,000 babies from abortion this year, 50,000 pre-born is a direct competition
00:21:00.340 to Planned Parenthood, largest provider of free ultrasounds in the U S when you let a
00:21:05.340 woman see her baby on ultrasound or hear the heartbeat, 80%, 80% are more likely to choose
00:21:12.480 life for her baby.
00:21:14.300 It is a noble goal.
00:21:17.940 While the world's going to hell in a handbasket, this is something we can actually do.
00:21:23.360 We can actually save children.
00:21:26.200 So here's what pre-born does.
00:21:28.600 They go into these places where the, the, the, uh, highest amount of abortions are happening
00:21:36.200 and they go to these clinics and they say, Hey, how about we provide free ultrasounds?
00:21:42.880 And they do.
00:21:44.920 Pre-born centers have counseled over 450 women considering abortion.
00:21:49.260 One hundred and eighty eight thousand babies have been saved.
00:21:52.220 We're going to save 50,000 this year.
00:21:54.840 If you'll help donate, dial pound two 50, say the keyword baby, all the money goes to
00:22:00.020 buy these, uh, these machines to, to do it.
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00:22:10.000 baby.
00:22:10.520 Find out all the information at preborn.com slash Glenn.
00:22:13.520 I've often thought, um, you know, Americans just want to get along.
00:22:21.400 I don't want to argue.
00:22:22.840 I'm so tired of arguing with people over stuff that is like, what?
00:22:26.060 This should have been settled, you know, a thousand years ago.
00:22:29.160 Um, uh, but also, you know, I have felt that the, when I know we're going to win is when
00:22:41.820 there's a fleet of men like you, men and women, you know, Martin Luther King, you can look at
00:22:48.180 any photo and you see a fleet of white and a fleet of black all together.
00:22:54.660 It, it, it is going to take black men and women to stand up and say, don't take that.
00:23:03.260 Yeah.
00:23:03.520 Stand up.
00:23:04.440 Yeah.
00:23:04.880 Come with us.
00:23:05.660 It is going to be the black man that saves America.
00:23:10.680 I think.
00:23:11.480 Wow.
00:23:13.660 You disagree with that?
00:23:14.900 No, no, no.
00:23:15.260 It's not that I disagree.
00:23:16.140 I think you are right above the target.
00:23:18.680 And I say that because there's a couple of things going on as it relates to our political
00:23:23.420 culture.
00:23:25.400 One is the use of race to hide the left's radical agenda.
00:23:31.060 It's a term I call chocolate covered Marxism.
00:23:34.460 And you, you, you see it the way they talk about abortion, right?
00:23:38.120 Right.
00:23:38.380 Abortion used to be an issue for middle-class white women who wanted to be able to go to
00:23:43.300 college and get a job in journalism.
00:23:45.440 Now, every time they talk about abortion, it's framed as this is going, the reversal
00:23:50.200 of Roe was going to hurt, um, black women and women of color and poor women.
00:23:54.780 Same thing with LGBT advocacy.
00:23:57.600 It's when Joe Biden talks about transgenderism, it's, Oh, and black trans women of color are
00:24:03.700 more likely to be assaulted on the streets.
00:24:05.660 Listen, what they're doing is that they use our history of race in a way, I call it the
00:24:14.180 Selma syndrome where they take the real history, right?
00:24:17.100 Yes.
00:24:17.680 It's, it's part real history, part Stockholm syndrome.
00:24:21.240 So they, they tell black folks, if you allow conservatives to get back in, they're going
00:24:26.960 to take you back to what some, they're going to drag you all back in chains.
00:24:31.000 Exactly.
00:24:31.280 I think is the exact quote.
00:24:32.800 And, and to the extent that, um, black voters, um, allow that to happen and give that legitimacy
00:24:40.160 and credence, we become a lot more tenderized to all different types of agendas.
00:24:45.040 And then saying, yes, black liberation is dependent on us killing one third of our offspring in
00:24:53.680 the womb.
00:24:54.260 Yes, that is, that's how we get freedom.
00:24:56.400 And you're right.
00:24:57.160 I think a lot of it is going to be black men, um, who take, who, who step to the forefront
00:25:04.960 and say, no, this is my family.
00:25:08.380 This is my wife.
00:25:09.920 These are my children.
00:25:11.440 And the craziness that you guys are talking about, we're not getting down with that.
00:25:16.280 And to me, it's my God.
00:25:17.880 And it's, and it's, and it's my God.
00:25:19.560 And, and to me, um, I first knew that this was coming when I saw how quickly BLM, the organization
00:25:28.760 was rising to prominence.
00:25:30.560 Cause when I first learned about BLM and I looked at the 13 principles.
00:25:34.220 Thank you, Glenn.
00:25:36.300 Not a single one said police, mortality, man, husband, father, boy, and even their black
00:25:43.900 villages principle, which you would think would say something along the lines of it takes
00:25:47.600 a village to raise a child.
00:25:48.720 We're here to support mothers and fathers as they raise their children.
00:25:52.860 No, it said we are committed to disrupting the Western prescribed nuclear family.
00:25:57.300 Yeah.
00:25:57.720 That's when I knew that these people were not friendlies.
00:26:00.300 These, these were enemies, not just enemies of the cross because of the godlessness and,
00:26:04.640 and, and secularism, but enemies of me and my family.
00:26:08.260 And, and I take that seriously.
00:26:09.720 I always felt, I don't know how, how old are you just turned 40, just turned 40.
00:26:19.500 Um, uh, so you may be able to answer this.
00:26:23.920 Because I've always felt that the racism that was in my early childhood was getting so much
00:26:35.140 better, so much better.
00:26:37.040 And I think I might be the first generation that was taught Martin Luther King was right.
00:26:47.320 We don't look, we look for content and character.
00:26:50.400 And then my children were definitely raised that way.
00:26:55.160 Were we making progress?
00:26:58.900 I definitely.
00:27:00.000 Okay.
00:27:00.300 Yeah, we were.
00:27:01.120 Um, cause it feels like we were.
00:27:03.680 And then all of a sudden they just came in these groups generally run by a group of very
00:27:11.460 wealthy, wealthy, white people just took gasoline and poured it over all of us and set it on
00:27:19.000 fire.
00:27:19.540 Yeah.
00:27:20.880 How's, how's that working?
00:27:23.040 How's that working out?
00:27:24.300 I mean, it is so easy to see, um, to me, one of the, the, a couple of cases, bring it
00:27:31.520 home.
00:27:32.500 One people will be familiar with another.
00:27:35.460 They won't.
00:27:36.100 I'll do the familiar one first.
00:27:38.020 One is Jussie Smollett, right?
00:27:40.780 C-list actor.
00:27:42.200 I mean, he's okay.
00:27:42.840 He was okay on, on empire.
00:27:44.180 If, if that's your, if that's your type of show, but he says, you know, I was assaulted
00:27:49.320 by two guys in Chicago, which was obviously well known for being MAGA country.
00:27:53.220 And, um, and immediately CNN is, they don't just cover it, which I think they should, right?
00:28:01.920 They should have covered it, but it's, Oh, this is, this is representative of, of America
00:28:07.380 in 2019.
00:28:08.060 We haven't really come too far.
00:28:10.400 And that narrative went so far and, and it just provided more evidence for the people
00:28:17.680 who are prone to thinking that America in 2019 is the same as America in 1819 is the
00:28:22.700 same as America in 1619.
00:28:24.560 Uh, and that to me, when, when the demand for racism outstrips the supply, then eventually
00:28:32.220 you have to start inventing stuff.
00:28:33.600 Um, and I think that's what the Jussie Smollett situation showed.
00:28:37.700 And it showed that for the left, the left is more interested in fake hate crimes than
00:28:43.300 real street crimes.
00:28:44.360 Because Jussie Smollett got the attention of the Chicago police department, um, of the
00:28:51.080 Obama white house.
00:28:52.380 He had all of the celebrities, the comedians, everybody had his back.
00:28:57.320 And even at the point where it became clear that he was making the story up, there were
00:29:01.980 still people saying, well, even though it didn't happen to him, this is still representative
00:29:06.240 of America in, you know, the 2020s.
00:29:08.500 And I think that type of thing is destructive to a country and maintaining its unity.
00:29:14.160 Um, the less known cases of an eight year old girl named Jasmine Barnes, she was tragically
00:29:20.500 shot in a Walmart parking lot in Houston.
00:29:23.580 Um, the description first went out that it was a white male in his forties, right?
00:29:28.480 So again, if it has a racial element, it's everywhere.
00:29:32.600 Bernice King, Dr. King's daughter made tweets about this is the country we are.
00:29:37.800 And this, this beautiful black girl, baby, here comes Sean King.
00:29:41.660 Here comes Gabrielle union and, and other celebrities who draw attention to this because they think
00:29:48.860 it's a racial angle.
00:29:50.960 Then the police caught the shooters.
00:29:52.920 It was two black men, both charged with capital murder.
00:29:56.020 None of those people said another word.
00:29:58.260 And in fact, the white man that Sean King accused of being the shooter publicly with his
00:30:04.280 over a million followers ended up tragically killing himself about seven months later.
00:30:08.460 That is what racial arsonists do to a country.
00:30:12.760 They have no interest in black lives.
00:30:14.760 If they did, they would address the things that are most threatening black lives.
00:30:18.660 I tell you, I mean, I hate to bring him up because I just think he's a loser to be able
00:30:24.060 to make an argument about, but at the time before we knew everything else, Bill Cosby was
00:30:30.260 destroyed because he said strong black families.
00:30:34.580 I mean, it wasn't the sex thing.
00:30:37.140 They all, everybody, white, black, everybody apparently knew that about Bill Cosby.
00:30:42.740 But as soon as he crossed the line of saying families and pull your pants up, he all of a
00:30:49.420 sudden had to be destroyed.
00:30:50.360 He became persona non grata.
00:30:51.560 And that was his infamous pound cake speech.
00:30:53.940 I want to say it was 20, 2004, 50th, 50th anniversary of Brown versus Board of Ed.
00:31:00.200 And you're right.
00:31:00.760 That is the moment that Bill Cosby, even within sort of the black mainstream democratic community,
00:31:06.400 went from beloved father to persona non grata.
00:31:10.320 Because what he did is in effect, take the burden of responsibility for improving the condition
00:31:18.840 and social outcomes of black Americans, he took it off of the shoulders of white people
00:31:24.260 and he put it onto the shoulders of black people.
00:31:27.060 And that is the one thing that you cannot do in those circles.
00:31:30.220 Right.
00:31:30.420 So I think that's why when he eventually, you know, went to prison for his charges, they
00:31:36.440 all shouted with glee because they hated him from 2004.
00:31:39.900 Correct.
00:31:40.100 This was just a way to get rid of him and move him off.
00:31:43.560 And that's why.
00:31:44.080 And if he wouldn't have taken that position, I wonder if he would have ever been charged.
00:31:47.780 Charged, and certainly even if he was charged, the track record shows that those same people
00:31:55.120 would have had his back and said, they're trying to take down one of our leaders and
00:31:59.220 he's probably trying to buy a network.
00:32:01.820 Right.
00:32:02.380 But because he didn't go along with them, they were more than willing to hang him out to
00:32:07.700 dry.
00:32:08.660 Yeah.
00:32:08.820 So when we had the George Floyd riots, I mean, one thing that is missed is I don't know a
00:32:18.700 single white person that saw that video and said, oh, that's great.
00:32:25.700 Right.
00:32:26.080 I'm sure there were, but I don't know a single one.
00:32:29.160 We were, that was a day of uniting.
00:32:32.080 Yes.
00:32:32.740 It was such a uniting day.
00:32:34.380 Yes.
00:32:34.760 And then it spun out of control.
00:32:37.500 And all of a sudden, half the country is being called a racist because they support it when
00:32:41.840 I don't, half the country wasn't supporting it.
00:32:44.620 Right.
00:32:44.780 We all knew that that was wrong.
00:32:47.800 Then the riots.
00:32:49.160 And I think at least half the country knew there are good people that are actually marching,
00:32:57.020 but they're not actually with BLM.
00:32:59.680 Right.
00:32:59.880 They're just like, hey, I want to march because my community is in trouble.
00:33:04.020 Okay.
00:33:05.480 But then the, the, the robberies and the burning of the cities, nobody did anything.
00:33:13.360 Where are we now?
00:33:14.420 Just a few years later, two years later, where, I mean, are we the same people?
00:33:23.200 Worse, better.
00:33:24.420 What did we learn?
00:33:26.920 I hope we're getting better.
00:33:29.880 I mean, 2020 was obviously with COVID and everything else, but that, that summer, I think probably
00:33:38.020 red pilled a lot of people because even before George Floyd was, was killed with the COVID
00:33:44.800 lockdowns, as things were starting to open up, you, you saw how the media, corporate media
00:33:50.560 would see people they assume were Trump voters out at the beach and they would harass them.
00:33:55.480 Well, you're not wearing a mask.
00:33:56.840 And one of the guys would say, well, neither is your cameraman.
00:33:58.660 So get off my back.
00:34:00.520 And then George Floyd was killed and the entire world changed.
00:34:04.340 And the same people who, um, you know, fast forward to January 6th would say political
00:34:13.120 violence is wrong.
00:34:14.800 Um, destroying people's workplaces wrong.
00:34:17.900 Um, subverting democracy is wrong.
00:34:19.920 They made excuses as cities burned, as buildings burned, as businesses were destroyed, as people
00:34:25.860 were assaulted.
00:34:27.140 One of the most iconic images is, is a woman.
00:34:29.780 She was dining.
00:34:31.080 I think she might've been in Washington DC.
00:34:32.580 Yeah.
00:34:32.880 And, and the crowd had a pin all the way back.
00:34:36.120 Right.
00:34:36.600 They were shouting in her face.
00:34:37.680 I think they probably wanted to say black lives matter or something like that.
00:34:40.180 And I think, I mean, the country was on the brink.
00:34:44.300 It literally was burning.
00:34:45.780 Um, I think things have gotten a little bit better since that, you know, that summer.
00:34:53.160 Um, we don't see as many statues being torn down, which is good.
00:34:56.620 But is that because the, the power change?
00:35:00.840 I mean, look at what happened in Canada, you know, they went after those guys and everybody
00:35:06.480 kind of just kind of went back, you know, and like, Oh, let's forget about that.
00:35:10.180 Um, the power has changed and, and now we're just starting to see the street activism, uh,
00:35:17.820 come up and it's not based in truth.
00:35:20.600 Right.
00:35:21.140 You know, it's, it's seemingly just trying to ramp people up for the next election.
00:35:27.260 Yeah.
00:35:27.720 So, so, so I, I'd say this, I think we are, we are better off now than we were in the summer
00:35:34.320 of 2020.
00:35:35.040 Um, I think many of the issues around race and division still exists.
00:35:40.600 The left obviously will exploit anything, any perceived racial incident for their own
00:35:47.400 benefit.
00:35:48.460 Uh, I think a couple of things that are signs of progress is that you're starting to see
00:35:54.960 more conservatives.
00:35:56.060 And I'm thinking particularly, you know, governor DeSantis in Florida who are willing to say
00:36:01.800 at some point, this is enough where we're not doing this.
00:36:06.680 So whether his, the stop woke act or the stuff for Disney or, um, committing to funding the
00:36:14.020 police or committing to funding fatherhood initiatives.
00:36:16.520 I think those are all positive signs, but, and, and, and this is where I think, um, we
00:36:23.260 really need to, to assess where we are as a country.
00:36:26.560 When president Biden, before he came in, he said he wanted, he was running to, to save the
00:36:30.120 soul of a nation, but any nation who has its soul in the hands of politicians is already
00:36:35.740 on his way to hell.
00:36:36.600 Already lost.
00:36:37.220 Right.
00:36:37.500 They're already lost.
00:36:38.300 And I think the rise of atheism and secularism, um, and politics as a religion is one of the
00:36:49.320 things that needs to be, um, corrected as we move forward.
00:36:53.300 And you know, and I know, um, you know, just like in Germany, the churches weren't destroyed
00:37:01.240 by the Nazis.
00:37:02.940 They were destroyed by infiltration.
00:37:05.600 Right.
00:37:05.900 Okay.
00:37:06.360 By the time Hitler got in, it took them six months before the churches were like, yeah,
00:37:10.620 let's take that picture of Christ off the altar and we'll put Hitler there.
00:37:14.180 Um, if you look at the American revolution, the churches were fighting the preachers that
00:37:22.320 were making the biggest impact.
00:37:23.980 They wouldn't let them come into the church.
00:37:26.040 It's usually the church fights against, uh, you know, whatever the people are, are, are
00:37:33.860 thinking about taking on like slavery.
00:37:37.200 Um, some stand, but I think our churches now are so dead.
00:37:42.560 Yes.
00:37:43.000 So dead.
00:37:43.720 Yes.
00:37:44.380 I mean, I, I've seen some, you know, mainline Protestant churches that I think the structures
00:37:49.960 will be better used as, you know, low income housing or recreation centers for kids because
00:37:55.180 the gospel is not being preached.
00:37:57.220 Um, the churches have completely bought into whatever the new progressive agenda is.
00:38:03.860 I saw a church a couple of years ago that had one of its members basically host a drag
00:38:10.120 queen story hour.
00:38:11.360 He was reading a story, a man dressed as a woman in drag on a, on a Sunday morning.
00:38:17.620 And I think that just goes to show that so many of these churches again have, have died.
00:38:22.480 They are whitewashed tombs and, and there's nothing of God going on in them, but they
00:38:29.000 draw on sort of the, the moral legitimacy of the Bible to, and lend it to politicians who
00:38:38.960 the only time they want to quote scriptures is when it serves their particular, you know,
00:38:44.360 political agenda.
00:38:45.120 So tell me, you write about, we have to have a biblical world for you.
00:38:49.860 Mm-hmm explain to people who don't know what a biblical worldview is.
00:38:53.620 Cause very few people, it's like, I think it's like 5% of the population now has a biblical
00:38:59.320 worldview.
00:38:59.900 Yeah.
00:39:00.320 So, so, so when I use the term biblical worldview for me, what it means is, um, analyzing any
00:39:07.200 issue, politics and culture, social customs, public policy, new laws through the lens of
00:39:16.660 the scripture.
00:39:17.140 And there's certain things in which the scripture speaks to directly, certain things, not as
00:39:21.560 directly, but my ideas about, you know, the nature of humanity.
00:39:27.020 What is a man?
00:39:28.040 What is a woman come from Genesis?
00:39:30.020 Genesis one 27.
00:39:31.300 What is a marriage?
00:39:32.660 Genesis two 24.
00:39:33.900 Right.
00:39:34.840 Um, what, what value do children have?
00:39:39.360 Is there value inherent or is there value conditional?
00:39:41.760 Um, all of those things, as it relates to economics, as it relates to education, um, the, the notion
00:39:49.640 that parents and particularly fathers in the book of Ephesians and Ephesians six are given
00:39:55.220 the task to raise up their children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.
00:39:59.260 Um, those are all issues that are theological issues, but they intersect with our political
00:40:04.640 culture to the extent that these issues are being adjudicated on a day-to-day basis, um,
00:40:09.320 in the public square.
00:40:10.360 So, so for me, when I talk about, um, a biblical worldview, it's having my lenses, which I hope
00:40:19.580 to be corrective at all times, putting on the lens of the scripture to see the, the world
00:40:26.260 that's different than people who put on the lens of politics, for instance, to see the
00:40:31.220 scripture.
00:40:31.500 So they, they would, again, even, you know, with the, the transgenderism stuff, they'll
00:40:38.240 say, Oh, even a Christian will say, Oh yeah, I see what Genesis one 27 says, but there are
00:40:43.440 people who identify or they feel in a particular way.
00:40:46.800 And since God is a God of love, loving a person means affirming whatever it is that they want.
00:40:52.100 That's not love.
00:40:52.820 And that's how they get from one particular scripture about God being love.
00:40:57.060 And they affirm all different types of things that the Bible speaks again.
00:41:02.160 So why is that?
00:41:03.000 Why is that not love?
00:41:05.200 Well, it's not love because, um, sometimes love is correction.
00:41:08.740 Sometimes love is discipline.
00:41:10.480 Um, allow anyone who's raised children knows that, I mean, your kids may want to eat, um,
00:41:16.540 you know, cookies and candy all day.
00:41:19.440 Allowing them to do that is not love in the same way.
00:41:22.200 Um, allowing them to mutilate their bodies or pump themselves full of drugs because they
00:41:28.040 feel a certain discomfort with their body, uh, is not love.
00:41:31.480 So, so when I advocate for a biblical worldview, I'm not of the position that every American
00:41:37.700 needs to be a born again believer.
00:41:40.180 I'm not saying that, that I would, I would love that.
00:41:42.740 But what I'm saying is as a, as a, as a Christian, I believe that the designer gets to be the
00:41:49.760 definer.
00:41:50.600 And I believe that this world was designed.
00:41:52.940 There's no way that someone is going to, going to, in fact, it takes more faith, quote
00:41:58.540 unquote, to believe that the complexity of the world we see is just happenstance.
00:42:04.560 Yeah.
00:42:05.360 So, so I'm trying to use a biblical worldview to describe the world as it is in the same
00:42:11.220 way.
00:42:11.960 If I was trying to describe gravity, you don't have to believe in gravity.
00:42:14.860 You can say, okay, I never took physics.
00:42:16.420 I don't care about gravity.
00:42:17.960 Just know that when you throw the apple up in the air, it's going to come down and hit
00:42:21.520 you in the head.
00:42:22.320 And in the same way, if you try to subvert God's design for, for humanity, for civilizations,
00:42:30.440 for the ways that man and woman interact, for how children are born, you're going to
00:42:35.940 have problems and you're going to constantly be getting hit in the head with apples.
00:42:39.560 It's amazing to me.
00:42:41.460 I mean, I think people would all agree the best justice system would be automatic.
00:42:48.600 You do this and you pay the price.
00:42:51.500 You know what I mean?
00:42:52.200 Swift and certain.
00:42:53.480 And, and in some ways, I mean, that's the way God set it up.
00:42:59.680 You know, that's why Marxism always fails.
00:43:03.280 It's going against human nature.
00:43:06.820 You know, God built us to be a certain way.
00:43:10.320 So when you say, no, man is not like that, it's going to fail and, and kill a lot of people
00:43:19.200 usually.
00:43:19.960 Yeah.
00:43:20.320 Yeah.
00:43:20.900 And I think you see that it's not a punishment.
00:43:22.940 It just is.
00:43:24.480 Right.
00:43:24.660 As I said, it's the same as if you deny gravity.
00:43:26.720 Um, and that's why I think if to the extent that people talk about, you know, what, what
00:43:32.100 should be on the conservative political agenda for me is simple.
00:43:35.560 It is the restoration and protection of the natural moral and social order nature's laws
00:43:44.320 and nature's God.
00:43:45.600 Yeah.
00:43:46.260 Yeah.
00:43:46.860 That's, that's what we need because to the extent that we subvert those things, we see
00:43:52.180 all of the consequences.
00:43:53.980 Glenn, I'm telling you, and I've said this to people before in 10, 15 years, we're going
00:43:58.460 to have a generational children who look back at adults today and say, why did you let me
00:44:04.900 do this to myself?
00:44:05.900 Amen.
00:44:07.040 Yes.
00:44:07.240 I told you I was uncomfortable in my body.
00:44:09.300 Yes.
00:44:09.440 I told you I wanted to, what was wrong with you.
00:44:12.360 Right.
00:44:12.980 But you are the adult.
00:44:14.220 You were supposed to love me by protecting me from myself.
00:44:18.600 But because in our culture, love is expressed through complete, total and unquestioning affirmation.
00:44:26.020 There are adults here today who at the slightest sign of a child expressing discomfort with their
00:44:32.840 body, assume that that child is, is a different sex.
00:44:36.140 Right.
00:44:36.440 So, and, and schools are aiding and abetting in that.
00:44:40.500 And sometimes they're doing it behind the parents' back.
00:44:43.220 So as a parent, especially like parents who have girls, you, you send your, your, your
00:44:50.480 daughter out.
00:44:51.060 She likes to play basketball and get dirty with the boys.
00:44:53.060 You send her to school as a tomboy.
00:44:55.220 The school sends them back as a boy named Tom.
00:44:57.500 And they, and they're telling you that they're doing it for her benefit.
00:45:01.300 And to the extent that we've become silent on those things, we are going to have a heavy,
00:45:06.820 heavy price to pay.
00:45:08.380 I think we're already paying a higher price than any of us thought just for giving trophies
00:45:13.100 out to everybody, you know?
00:45:14.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:46:52.100 If you look at a free market, it is, you know, when I started this, um, the blaze, everybody
00:47:01.460 said that was madness and it probably was.
00:47:05.380 In fact, it was, but I'm not risk averse.
00:47:10.240 You know what I mean?
00:47:11.120 I know if you're going to change things, you have to risk.
00:47:15.100 This entire culture is teaching people.
00:47:19.440 Don't risk.
00:47:20.420 You don't want to get hurt.
00:47:22.280 Don't.
00:47:22.800 It might be a boo boo.
00:47:24.000 You might get COVID.
00:47:25.160 You might get safety.
00:47:26.000 How is this generation, which there are no consequences for anything that you do as long as you say
00:47:35.320 the right things and you get a trophy without even trying.
00:47:40.340 How are they going to even understand a free market?
00:47:44.480 I mean, that's a good question.
00:47:46.260 I think that remains to be seen, um, because we're in the middle of this right now, right?
00:47:51.340 COVID really exposed, um, the left's sort of worship at the altar of safety ism.
00:47:58.440 Um, now I expose the hypocrisy as well, because in the same moment, a mayor may be saying, or
00:48:03.980 a governor may be saying, you can't send your kids to school.
00:48:06.760 You can't go out to eat to a restaurant.
00:48:09.280 They were doing the very things that they told their citizens that they couldn't do.
00:48:13.600 But like, I think of it, you know, I grew up in New York as a New Yorker and New York
00:48:17.640 was always a place.
00:48:18.800 It was rough and tumble and it was the land of graffiti on the trains and beatboxing and
00:48:25.700 people marching to their own beat.
00:48:27.780 And I just see the way the city has become and the people have become so docile where you
00:48:33.460 have, frankly, unimpressive bureaucrats like Bill de Blasio who tell you that he, he can
00:48:39.840 keep you safe.
00:48:40.460 He can protect you.
00:48:41.720 And that in order to do that, you lived in New York, nobody can do that.
00:48:44.840 Right.
00:48:45.180 Right.
00:48:45.940 You better have common sense and your wits about you.
00:48:48.280 Right.
00:48:48.800 And now he can't protect you from the things that he's responsible for.
00:48:52.700 Right.
00:48:53.180 So street crime, but he's saying he can protect you from a virus.
00:48:56.960 If only you would give him more power.
00:48:58.740 Correct.
00:48:59.420 And to see people again in the city I grew up in just willingly give it away because
00:49:06.000 of their fear to the point where I think just maybe a week ago, like school kids were still
00:49:11.020 having to wear masks while the rest of the country has opened up.
00:49:14.820 The current mayor, Eric Adams, is saying, well, we're in New York, we're different.
00:49:17.920 And, you know, there's two types of people.
00:49:19.380 It used to be.
00:49:20.580 Yeah.
00:49:20.920 New York is different.
00:49:22.120 Correct.
00:49:22.340 We're the tough guy on the block.
00:49:24.480 Don't mess with New York.
00:49:25.500 But now that's soft.
00:49:26.880 And I think that the long COVID is really a psychological condition.
00:49:33.480 Right.
00:49:33.820 And we're going to see the softening of the American citizenry, particularly in blue states
00:49:41.980 and cities.
00:49:43.120 We're going to see that the impacts of that for years to come, because even now where
00:49:47.560 we where my family lives, the last time I took the kids to the playground, I'd say at
00:49:52.500 least 75 percent of the children were wearing masks.
00:49:55.420 Oh, my gosh.
00:49:56.940 They're terrified.
00:49:57.920 We haven't worn masks in Texas for like two years.
00:50:00.540 Yeah.
00:50:00.840 We're fine.
00:50:01.720 Right.
00:50:02.240 Everybody's over it.
00:50:03.340 I mean, it's you hear or travel to other states that are red and you're like are blue.
00:50:11.140 Right.
00:50:11.360 And you're you're like, what?
00:50:13.220 What is this?
00:50:14.600 It's a different world.
00:50:17.680 Correct.
00:50:18.260 Correct.
00:50:18.620 And it's a fear based world.
00:50:20.320 It is.
00:50:20.840 And I think the politicians who have caused that fear and anxiety, quite frankly, owe
00:50:28.260 their citizens an apology because now you see people like they have anxious to even pull
00:50:35.120 their mask down.
00:50:36.180 And I think that's we never understood the people who'd come from China after the bird
00:50:43.260 flu or whatever it was.
00:50:44.440 And we're still wearing masks over here.
00:50:46.960 We're like, what is right?
00:50:48.280 Right.
00:50:48.500 What is happening to those people?
00:50:50.600 We are those people now.
00:50:52.860 Yeah.
00:50:53.560 Yeah.
00:50:53.900 That's true.
00:50:54.660 We are.
00:50:56.560 First of all, tell me what the Squire agenda is.
00:51:01.560 So I wrote this column about the Squire's agenda.
00:51:05.540 Right.
00:51:05.820 Because someone online.
00:51:09.040 I think I it happened after the Super Bowl.
00:51:12.040 I remember that.
00:51:13.940 I remember that.
00:51:14.440 I leveled a light critique of the I don't think you're like people would define today
00:51:22.920 as a light critique.
00:51:23.820 Go ahead.
00:51:24.480 But I talked about the impact of hip hop culture, the worst elements of hip hop culture, which
00:51:31.940 I think could be, you know, people like Snoop Dogg would be the archetype of that.
00:51:36.460 And I said, again, it was the show, the halftime show itself wasn't bad, but it's the impact
00:51:44.000 of, you know, 30 plus years of violence and degradation and drug abuse sort of pumped into
00:51:51.960 the American mainstream, but particularly like mainlined right into the black community.
00:51:55.820 And I said something about it and somebody, you know, said something critical and they basically
00:52:02.120 said, well, people like him who talk like this, they have a different agenda.
00:52:07.760 And at first I was going to push back and say, well, I don't have an agenda.
00:52:11.580 But I said, no, I do have an agenda.
00:52:13.440 And I think one of the things.
00:52:16.300 As someone who's associated, you know, on the right as a conservative, which I never grew
00:52:20.280 up thinking of myself that way.
00:52:21.320 I grew up in New York, so you didn't.
00:52:23.380 Yeah.
00:52:23.620 You know, I didn't think in those terms.
00:52:25.160 One of the things I think conservatives fail to do is to argue vigorously for the things
00:52:33.260 that they believe.
00:52:36.160 They argue more about the things we disagree on.
00:52:41.720 Correct.
00:52:41.920 The things that we need to stop.
00:52:44.200 No.
00:52:45.140 Correct.
00:52:45.700 Flip that.
00:52:46.620 Correct.
00:52:46.920 So what I did in that piece when I talked about my agenda is to say it's the restoration
00:52:53.960 of the family, right?
00:52:55.720 Acknowledgement of God as the creator of this world and an authority higher than government.
00:53:04.960 Yeah.
00:53:06.480 I mean, I'm in AA.
00:53:08.360 Just a higher power.
00:53:09.360 Just something bigger than you.
00:53:11.500 Correct.
00:53:12.000 Correct.
00:53:13.400 Part of it dealt directly with the issue, you know, hip hop culture and its excesses.
00:53:18.920 And I remember saying something to the effect of, you know, some of the issues, some of
00:53:24.640 the images that you see in hip hop, right?
00:53:27.960 The ones that people would acknowledge are degrading.
00:53:31.020 My children may be exposed to those things at some point.
00:53:35.020 But I said in that piece, but I'll be damned, literally, if I'm the one that feeds it to them.
00:53:41.440 Mm-hmm.
00:53:42.460 So for me, part of that agenda is to say, personally, and as a community, as a black American, as
00:53:51.540 an American, as a Christian, we have to be clear on what our standards are.
00:53:57.700 And when those standards are not being met, certain things have to be put out of the household.
00:54:02.500 Glenn, as someone I know familiar with your Bible, in the Old Testament, you would see
00:54:07.760 over and over again, when God either lays out a law or lays down a punishment, it would
00:54:13.800 say something to the effect of, punish this person swiftly, whatever that punishment was,
00:54:18.600 to drive evil out of the camp, right?
00:54:22.980 Yeah.
00:54:23.520 And what I want to say in my agenda is, these are the things that I'm for, right?
00:54:28.960 I'm for the family.
00:54:30.140 I'm for right relationships between individuals and different ethnic backgrounds.
00:54:37.760 I'm for, you know, a healthy love of country.
00:54:44.100 I'm for a healthy, productive culture.
00:54:47.060 I'm for the expression of public morality.
00:54:51.000 Off air, we were talking about, you know, I had a book of essays from a lot of, you know,
00:54:55.120 a number of black leaders around the turn of the century, you know, 19th century.
00:54:59.680 And one of the things that is immediate to me that I noticed is that even when they weren't
00:55:04.860 talking about religion specifically, whether they were talking about economics, entrepreneurship,
00:55:11.640 the relations between black and white, all of those things had an aspect of public morality.
00:55:17.800 We are losing that because all of our conversations about public policy are framed with respect to materialism.
00:55:30.040 This person committed a crime because they don't have, you know, enough X, Y, and Z.
00:55:35.400 It's the resources.
00:55:36.340 If they just had more resources, then they wouldn't engage in criminal behavior.
00:55:40.360 And you see that even within the church, you know, some conservative evangelicals that I follow
00:55:46.080 basically make the same arguments.
00:55:47.660 And I think, again, if Kenny's going to be in the public square with his false religion,
00:55:52.520 I should at least be just as vigorous pressing my case for what I believe.
00:55:57.220 So those are some of the things that encompass the Squire's agenda.
00:56:02.220 When Joe Biden said, you ain't black if you don't vote for me.
00:56:07.340 You call that political blackness, right?
00:56:10.360 So what is political blackness and what is blackness?
00:56:16.080 That's a great question.
00:56:17.560 So, you know, a lot of people remember, as you said, that phrase, you know, if you don't
00:56:22.520 know whether you vote for me.
00:56:24.420 The most racist thing.
00:56:26.000 Or the other guy, then you ain't black.
00:56:28.020 What a lot of people don't realize is that after the president said that, and at the time
00:56:31.040 he was still running for the office, Nicole Hannah-Jones, Pulitzer Prize winner, New York
00:56:36.860 Times, 1619 creator, she tweeted and then deleted, let's not act as if we don't know the difference
00:56:43.440 between racial blackness and political blackness.
00:56:47.580 Now, I think she was criticized, but her assessment of what is, I think, was accurate because at
00:56:55.920 some point, I don't know when this took place, sometime between 1954 and 2004, there's been
00:57:02.260 a fusion of black racial identity and support of the Democratic Party to the point.
00:57:08.200 I think it began in the Great Society.
00:57:09.780 Yeah.
00:57:09.980 So, it's not just, oh, you know, black folk go 90% for Democrats.
00:57:16.500 It's the notion that to vote for a Democrat is the black political choice to make.
00:57:22.940 So, political blackness is the idea that part of one's sort of expression of your ethnic
00:57:32.480 identity is to support the Democratic Party and its agenda.
00:57:38.080 And when I talked about chocolate-covered Marxism, you see that in the way they frame abortion.
00:57:44.100 You see that in the way that they frame LGBT issues, even in the way that they frame climate
00:57:48.600 change.
00:57:49.460 It's the racialization of the entire sort of political conversation.
00:57:55.240 In the piece, what I did, because I believe in attribution, right, I said, I don't want to
00:58:02.620 call it political blackness.
00:58:03.980 I want to call it Biden blackness and let the people who believe in it own it so that
00:58:09.320 they know who owns them ultimately.
00:58:11.940 So, when I talk about Biden blackness or Biden blacks, it's people who would argue, for instance,
00:58:18.600 in the same breath, they'll say, white people are the ultimate source of all of our oppression.
00:58:25.720 They are also the ultimate source of our liberation.
00:58:28.200 And if a black conservative comes along and says, hey, guys, I think we can do some things
00:58:34.520 for ourselves, people who adhere to Biden blackness will say, shut up, you white supremacists.
00:58:41.060 Right?
00:58:41.440 So, the black man who says, I can be self-sufficient, I have agency, I have some control over my life,
00:58:46.400 as much control as my white brother does, that person is derided as a white supremacist.
00:58:52.000 Larry Elder, Winsome Sears, Condoleezza Rice, all of these people have been called white supremacists
00:58:58.140 in the last year.
00:59:00.360 Biden blackness is also the notion that, as I said before, black liberation is found through
00:59:07.720 killing our offspring.
00:59:10.080 Biden blackness is the notion that a school today, not 1944, today, that's 90% black,
00:59:18.720 is segregated and inferior.
00:59:22.280 Even if you don't know how the children are performing, it's the notion, which Nicole Hannah
00:59:26.900 Jones believes in, that integration is the surest path to improve black educational outcomes.
00:59:35.160 So, Biden blackness is an ideology that's steeped in self-loathing, in confusion, and an inability
00:59:45.980 to properly assess the barriers to racial progress in today's America.
00:59:53.600 Can we ever get to a place where, you know, I'm a, one of the guys I simultaneously love
01:00:01.500 and despise is Theodore Roosevelt.
01:00:05.620 Progressive, I mean, just crazy, but he wasn't, he was an early progressive, so it hadn't really
01:00:14.740 gelled yet, and, you know, so while he's bad on eugenics, he invited Booker T to have dinner
01:00:23.160 with him at the White House, which was unheard of back then.
01:00:27.960 And the thing I love about him is his, is his speech that included, you know, the arena
01:00:35.920 and, and America, hyphenated Americans.
01:00:39.700 Do we ever get to a point that, that Martin Luther King talked about, where I am not black or white,
01:00:48.480 it doesn't matter.
01:00:50.600 Yeah.
01:00:50.880 It's, it's, we are, we, we are able to see you're either self-reliant or you're a slave
01:01:01.080 to something, and that could be to a bank, you know what I mean?
01:01:04.220 Yeah.
01:01:04.660 I, I think we can get there.
01:01:06.780 I'll say this.
01:01:07.680 Should we?
01:01:08.280 I think we should.
01:01:10.000 Um, I would caution conservatives in, in this way.
01:01:13.740 Sometimes, and I found this over, you know, over my life, the hardest thing in life to
01:01:17.920 do is to correct.
01:01:19.400 What's much more common is to overcorrect.
01:01:21.580 So sometimes what conservatives will do, having been bombarded with decades of hearing that
01:01:26.880 they're racist and race this and race that is to say, well, we should do away with race
01:01:30.940 altogether.
01:01:32.340 But as, again, as a Christian, like God made me and nothing that he made, am I going to
01:01:39.260 say is not good and nothing that he made.
01:01:41.820 Am I going to say that acknowledging it is not good in the same way?
01:01:45.600 No one would come to us and say, well, look, the, the gender wars have been going on for
01:01:50.300 long enough.
01:01:50.880 Let's not acknowledge gender and gender categories.
01:01:54.380 Right.
01:01:55.220 I think the problem with race is not that we acknowledge that you and I have different
01:01:59.400 ethnic backgrounds.
01:02:00.520 It's when people come in and tell us that we should impart certain value to our different
01:02:06.380 ethnic backgrounds, that, um, someone of European ancestry is either at some period of time,
01:02:14.300 inherently superior or inherently inferior.
01:02:18.120 Same thing with someone of African ancestry.
01:02:19.780 So I think to the extent that we can de-racialize our common humanity, that is a good thing just
01:02:29.660 for holding together a nation, right?
01:02:33.020 It's also a good thing for politics.
01:02:34.700 So for instance, we talked about George Floyd and many people have heard of, obviously everybody's
01:02:38.180 heard of George Floyd.
01:02:39.280 Few people have heard of Tony Tempa who a few years before was in a similar situation with
01:02:46.300 the police and right.
01:02:48.460 In Dallas, right?
01:02:50.100 In Dallas.
01:02:50.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:51.300 And what happens is the racialization of policing makes it so that, um, the average American doesn't
01:03:01.060 even know any name of any white person who's been, you know, explained the, explain that
01:03:06.260 story and why people really need to know that story.
01:03:09.380 So Tony Tempa, I think he was a white man in mid forties.
01:03:14.040 I think he was having a psychotic or he was having a mental health, um, episode and the
01:03:20.080 police came and they restrained him.
01:03:21.460 And I think they, they knelt or sat on his back for about 13 minutes and eventually he
01:03:26.540 died.
01:03:26.840 And at one point you can hear on their, on their body cameras, they made, they were making
01:03:31.860 jokes that were inappropriate.
01:03:33.140 Yeah.
01:03:33.820 And it was bad.
01:03:34.960 It was bad.
01:03:35.740 The times covered it.
01:03:36.800 It did not become a national story and actually it didn't really come out until after George
01:03:41.220 Floyd was killed.
01:03:42.400 His mother didn't even know what happened to her son for a number of years.
01:03:46.280 I don't think anyone was charged, but it was one of these cases in which you see inappropriate
01:03:52.460 police behavior, but because Tony Tempa was the wrong color victim, his story will never
01:03:59.300 get any attention.
01:04:01.380 So I think deracializing some of these issues would allow us to say, okay, as a matter of public
01:04:06.480 policy, as a good governance, as citizens, what things do we think the state should are
01:04:12.980 under the state's authority?
01:04:14.760 And I think for conservatives, and I've said this before in different venues, I want to
01:04:18.880 see conservatives just as concerned about the fourth amendment when it comes to stop
01:04:23.040 and frisk and violations of civil rights in Baltimore and New York, as they are with the second
01:04:28.400 amendment, because you can't make the argument, well, I'm for stop and frisk because it's better
01:04:35.260 for these communities.
01:04:36.240 And some, if you stop enough guys, you'll get some off the road.
01:04:40.300 You can't make exceptions to God given rights.
01:04:44.220 Correct.
01:04:44.580 And you can't pick and choose because when it's red flag laws, or if the left ever said
01:04:52.340 every white guy who owns an AR-15 should expect a visit from the ATF, you would howl and say,
01:04:59.300 no, no, we can't do that.
01:05:00.940 So I think deracializing our political culture ultimately would serve us in the long run.
01:05:09.520 Who are the black leaders, though, that you can really look to?
01:05:15.540 That's a good question.
01:05:16.440 I think a couple come to mind.
01:05:18.920 One is Bob Woodson.
01:05:20.260 I love him.
01:05:21.300 Yeah.
01:05:21.600 Over the Woodson Center.
01:05:22.840 But he is, I mean, you know, he was a civil rights icon in the 60s.
01:05:27.400 Correct.
01:05:27.880 Is there somebody, I mean, I think you are, is there somebody that is learning at the feet?
01:05:35.560 You are actually learning at his feet.
01:05:37.300 I am.
01:05:37.780 I'm fortunate to say that.
01:05:39.760 So, you know, so I like the way you framed it, right?
01:05:43.500 I'll go old guard.
01:05:44.960 Yeah.
01:05:45.140 And then I'll talk about some of the up and coming guys.
01:05:47.980 Bob Woodson, Professor Glenn Lowry, who's gone from right to left to right.
01:05:56.120 Thomas Sowell, obviously, you know, Shelby Steele, John McWhorter, Jason Riley, Ian Rowe,
01:06:03.220 who a lot of people may not be as familiar with, who ran schools in the South Bronx,
01:06:08.200 who's really fought to rid the schoolhouse of that type of racial indoctrination, is another
01:06:16.240 person.
01:06:16.660 On the younger side, individuals like Camille Foster, who does a lot of work in this space
01:06:23.540 and just talking about issues in life, not always with such, you know, heavy race emphasis.
01:06:29.820 Coleman Hughes, who's extremely young.
01:06:32.060 He's in his 20s.
01:06:33.800 To the extent that I'm counted in that group, I counted, you know, sort of a grace of God.
01:06:40.080 But there are people out there, obviously, you know, Jason Whitlock, who's a huge voice.
01:06:45.640 I love him.
01:06:47.140 Are you optimistic for the future?
01:06:51.180 And I mean, tell me, because I'm optimistic long term, because I know true principles,
01:06:59.900 reality will restate itself.
01:07:02.680 I don't know what it's going to take to get there.
01:07:04.700 Right, right.
01:07:05.240 You know what I mean?
01:07:05.660 And so, short term, not so much.
01:07:07.820 Long term, I am.
01:07:09.040 Where are you?
01:07:10.580 I'm probably in the same place.
01:07:13.100 I mean, honestly, though, 95% of that, I just attribute to my faith.
01:07:19.100 Me too.
01:07:19.860 And I say, ultimately, if I believe the scriptures, then God is in control.
01:07:26.140 And in the long run, he's going to win.
01:07:29.900 Like, the battle, the war is already over.
01:07:35.260 The battles have been won.
01:07:36.800 We're just in the state of going through the motions to get there.
01:07:41.320 Could you do me a favor and talk about this?
01:07:44.080 Because I hear this from Christians, especially in the South, where some Christians believe in the rapture.
01:07:51.680 And they're like, hey, you're just going to be taken up.
01:07:54.700 I don't know if you believe in it or not.
01:07:55.920 I don't.
01:07:56.420 And I wish I did.
01:07:58.780 I wish that were true.
01:08:01.160 And if it is, you know, I'll be the first to go, wow, should have listened to Bob because he's gone.
01:08:07.060 Right, right, right.
01:08:08.560 But so many people believe, well, God's got it.
01:08:11.080 He knows.
01:08:11.740 He's got it.
01:08:12.560 No, no, no.
01:08:13.420 No, no, no.
01:08:14.400 He told us what it's going to look like.
01:08:17.900 Correct.
01:08:18.320 So we can do something about it and have hope.
01:08:22.100 Correct.
01:08:22.340 But there's a lot of Christians who are like, yeah, well, God's got it.
01:08:26.540 God's got it.
01:08:26.960 Yeah.
01:08:27.200 And I think that hope and faith is a good thing.
01:08:31.020 Yeah.
01:08:31.280 He does have it.
01:08:32.640 Correct.
01:08:33.080 But it's one of those things where, you know, faith without works is dead.
01:08:36.680 And when Jesus left his disciples, he told them to go and disciple the nations.
01:08:41.820 Right.
01:08:42.760 I think every time, particularly, we're talking about Christians here, speaks God's truth in the public square, whether that's, again, the nature of humanity, the nature of family, the nature of sin, that a father is not to be held to account for the sins of his son.
01:09:03.600 And a son, not for the sins of his father.
01:09:06.700 Whenever we speak those truths and we challenge a world, civil magistrates, if when we challenge Caesar and tell Caesar what you're doing is not right, that is part of us carrying out God's call in the public square.
01:09:23.040 I agree.
01:09:23.240 But you have to be striving for God's law.
01:09:27.780 You can't, I mean, you can't just, I mean, I love this, you know, we're going to have a new world.
01:09:31.960 Well, what, what?
01:09:32.960 Tell me, you know, it's not just we're going to reimagine.
01:09:35.740 Right.
01:09:35.960 We're going to read what?
01:09:37.200 Correct.
01:09:37.480 Tell me what will work or get better.
01:09:40.260 What are we striving for?
01:09:41.720 Yeah.
01:09:42.400 So, so, so I think to the extent that, that believers do that, um, they are, um, carrying out their, their sacred duty and their sacred call.
01:09:51.300 I don't believe in the, I'm, I'm no more believer in the sit back on the couch and let everything happen.
01:09:58.740 And God's got it sort of, you know, pessimism.
01:10:03.220 Um, I think that is just as illogical as if I, if I was, you know, 20 years younger and say, you know what, I really desire to be married, but I'm not going to leave the house.
01:10:13.460 I'm just going to play video games.
01:10:14.460 God's got me.
01:10:15.400 Amen.
01:10:15.660 When he's ready, he's going to bring my wife to my door and I'll know.
01:10:19.300 It's like, no, you have to be out there in, in a position to meet the person that you say that you want.
01:10:26.160 And in the same way, we have to be out there willing to stand on and speak the truth boldly in love with grace, but without compromise.
01:10:36.500 Um, and I, and I think that's what every, certainly every believer's call is for that.
01:10:41.540 But even in the, in the spirit of common grace, because the gender binary, you know, was not exclusive to Christians.
01:10:49.540 Every person in every civilization, since the beginning of time has understood what a man and what a woman is.
01:10:56.420 And I've argued, particularly in an American context, we treat race as fixed and gender as fluid.
01:11:04.840 And to the extent that we take the thinking of 19th century slave owners, right around race.
01:11:13.720 And since this country's history, people of discernible African descent have been called African, Negro, Black, Colored, Creole, Octoroon, Quadroon, people of color, those last two people of color, right?
01:11:29.440 Mixed, mixed race, um, all of these things, African American.
01:11:34.020 But a woman in 42 BC was a woman in 1492, was a woman in 1682, was a woman in 1982, and there's a woman in 2022.
01:11:46.500 So the American desire to uphold the definitions of plantation owners and suppress the definitions of God is the ultimate act of white supremacy in my mind.
01:12:00.700 One last question.
01:12:05.200 If you could have your way, what would you say is the most important thing for people to do?
01:12:16.840 Listening to the podcast right now, if everybody would do it, what would you say the most important thing is?
01:12:25.260 That's a good question.
01:12:26.440 I would say the most important thing is to order your life to the extent possible according to God's design.
01:12:38.120 And I say this understanding that people may have different faith walks and different belief systems.
01:12:42.540 I can only speak from what I know.
01:12:44.360 Um, so for me, what that looks like is acknowledging God as creator, right?
01:12:51.120 Um, acknowledge, acknowledging Christ as his son and savior, acknowledging my need for forgiveness and my need to repent.
01:12:59.640 And not, I said this to my daughter, dad, uh, I mean, it's not bad to, um, confess your privilege.
01:13:10.000 And I said to her, I confess to God almighty, not to man and not in public.
01:13:17.100 I ask him for forgiveness and I do it every day.
01:13:20.960 Amen.
01:13:21.460 I'm not going to confess my white.
01:13:24.380 We have, you know, there's a difference.
01:13:26.100 Right, right, right.
01:13:26.760 There's a difference, right.
01:13:28.040 So, so, so, so getting, getting that build, those building blocks in order.
01:13:34.040 But as you, again, for me, for me, that's the cornerstone, my spiritual faith.
01:13:39.780 But from there, it's again, looking at God's order and design for humanity.
01:13:46.500 It is prioritizing the family.
01:13:49.160 So, so if you're a single man, find you a wife, marry her and have children, same single
01:13:56.480 woman, right?
01:13:57.740 If you have kids, understand that their education is your responsibility, right?
01:14:04.880 You, you may enlist the services of a school to help you with that.
01:14:09.740 I had this conversation with a teacher that told me, we've got it, Mr. Beck.
01:14:14.440 And I said, you work for me.
01:14:16.560 I don't work for you.
01:14:17.980 Exactly.
01:14:18.320 Exactly.
01:14:19.240 So, so it's putting those things in order because our, I like to think of society as
01:14:26.960 a, as a body.
01:14:27.660 We talk about the body politic.
01:14:29.300 And if you were to cut us open and look inside, you would see some organs missing.
01:14:33.780 Some have been atrophied.
01:14:35.320 Some are in the wrong place.
01:14:36.780 And what we need more than anything in our world is to put those things that God has
01:14:42.280 designed back in their, their natural order.
01:14:45.620 Will you come back again?
01:14:46.980 Absolutely.
01:14:47.800 If you'll have me, you bet.
01:14:49.240 Thank you so much.
01:14:49.900 Thank you.
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