Kash Patel is a former National Security Prosecutor who served as the Chief of Staff to the Department of Defense. He was the lead investigator during the Russiagate investigation, which led to the firing of Peter Strzok and several other White House employees.
00:01:12.840We've seen it happen live, especially over the last six years.
00:01:16.340Well, today's guest is a guy who's witnessed the systematic corruption up close.
00:01:23.380In fact, I would suggest that this was a threat on his life.
00:01:27.660Remember the page after page after page that was completely redacted for the Mar-a-Lago thing?
00:01:34.420This paragraph, for some reason, just mentions his name.
00:01:38.920You'll hear why he thinks that's so important and what it was really meant to do.
00:01:44.380He's a former national security prosecutor.
00:01:48.080He has held posts within the CIA and the House Select Committee on Intelligence.
00:01:53.680He has had several high-ranking positions within the White House, including chief of staff to the secretary of defense.
00:02:01.100As Trump's counterterrorism advisor, he traveled to Damascus in an effort to negotiate the release of two Americans being held hostage by the Assad regime.
00:02:12.100He was the lead investigator during the Russiagate hoax.
00:02:17.300His investigation led to the firing of Peter Strzok and several other questionable bureaucrats.
00:02:24.360They've retaliated against him with the force of law.
00:02:30.220It's no coincidence that he was named in the Mar-a-Lago search, the search warrant affidavit.
00:02:36.240His name was one of the few parts of the document that wasn't redacted.
00:02:42.920He was also given access by Trump to the National Archives.
00:07:00.160But I've always believed the top level, whether I was chief of staff at DOD or whatnot, those levels have to be filled with people who serve the mission.
00:07:10.120And those people, the ones currently, Chris Wray and at the time Barr and now Garland, were giving top cover for the corruption at the FBI and DOJ.
00:07:20.920So I had a conversation with Bill Barr, and I found him to be a very reasonable man, etc.
00:07:28.020But as I've watched what has happened since he's left, the things he said, well, I was just protecting, make sure that this thing could come out and whatever.
00:07:44.120Was he part of the deep state or was he just naive?
00:07:52.220No, you can't be a two-time attorney general and have the accolades and acumen that Bill Barr does and be naive.
00:07:59.040You are part of the cover-up if you don't help expose it.
00:08:02.280And look, let me just give you one example.
00:08:03.960As the chief investigator for Devin Nunes on Russiagate, where we exposed the corruption about the lies to the FISA court perpetrated by DOJ and FBI who are willing to sling false information for political witch-hunting purposes.
00:08:54.020I've been attacked by everyone in the country.
00:08:56.760And most of the time I'm being attacked by whether it's liberals or Democrats or conservatives or whatnot, it just means I'm over the top.
00:09:03.620And I called out Bill Barr for failing to do his job.
00:09:07.320He took, you know, I guess, ire against that and wrote about me in his book about how I wasn't qualified to do this or that.
00:09:14.020And I found it ironic from a man who became attorney general at the age of 37 when he had less experience than I did for some of the jobs I held when I was older than he was.
00:09:23.800And so, you know, I guess he's doing a sort of book tour lap.
00:09:28.100So is this, Cash, the deep state, do you believe that this is a group of people that don't care who the president is, they're going to do what they want, or are they controlled by a party, or does it matter?
00:10:25.740What I found is these people have come into these positions to service their own egos and forgot their oath of office to serve the American people.
00:10:33.400And time and time again, you see that on the national security front.
00:10:36.160It's what I lobby against the most is the politicization of the national security and law enforcement apparatus in this country to the degradation of the FBI, DOJ, and DOD.
00:10:45.780And now you see most Americans, less than half have faith in these institutions.
00:10:49.360In 2022 America, we don't believe in the core values that stood up our country to protect Americans first.
00:11:07.900I think all Americans, I don't care who you voted for.
00:11:11.000If you were honest and you just looked at the facts, you may not blame it on the same people or whatever, but you know that wasn't the truth.
00:11:20.640You look at what's happening to Donald Trump now.
00:11:23.920And he took documents that he said were deeply he declassified.
00:11:32.960It long story short, he did what he did, but he was president of the United States with the ability to do that.
00:11:40.500And then you look at the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who actually sent people into a skiff and told them to cut off the top of where it said top secret.
00:12:48.740And other whistleblowers who are recently coming forward at the FBI with actual corruption are essentially fired.
00:12:55.540Now, returning back to the two tier system of justice, this is something maybe I'm biased in for my time as a prosecutor and public defender.
00:13:01.980But it used to be this was the one country in the world where if someone broke the law, the same law applied to everyone.
00:13:10.740Now, but as you highlighted succinctly, that change with the Hillary Clinton model in terms of how to handle classified information at that point.
00:13:20.280And it's just been a disastrous sort of downhill landslide ever since.
00:13:27.700I, you know, I've been a part of the machine to know that there is a solution to be ticked off enough to get angry at the machine and then get past that anger and say, how do we fix it?
00:13:36.060One, people always say, you know, is it just enough to have Congress?
00:13:45.440If the American people aren't educated in the fact that this can happen in modern day America, because, Glenn, you know more than anybody.
00:13:52.040Half of America, because of the disinformation campaign put on by the Democrats and the radical left and the corrupt FBI, thinks Donald Trump's an FBI asset or excuse me, a Russian asset.
00:14:00.800We have to go back and reteach the truth and we shouldn't have to do that.
00:14:06.960But I think the American populace, I've always said this, has the biggest power to move the DOJ and the FBI, more so than Congress ever could with their subpoenas and more so than the White House could with their appointments of AGs and directors.
00:14:20.020The only thing the FBI and DOJ listen to is the will of the American people.
00:14:24.480And if the will is saying you have violated your oaths and created a two tier system of justice, we have to abolish it.
00:14:31.640I want to paint you a picture in the parallel economy I'm always telling you about.
00:14:36.360When you buy socks, you're probably getting them from, I don't know, China or wherever.
00:14:42.340But when you buy socks from GRIP6, for instance, you're not just getting the best socks on the market.
00:16:18.260I mean, even people on the other side that vote the other way.
00:16:22.000If they're aware at all of what's happening just in their schools, at no time did any American, except the extraordinary fringe, say, well, an adult that's attracted to a child, we should think of that as a different choice.
00:17:54.500Who can't rally around stopping such a heinous act?
00:17:58.600But we actually have just been told by the whistleblower that went to Senator Grassley's office and Senator Jordan's office or Congressman Jordan's office that not only was the FBI deviating and falsifying and cooking the book so we can have more violent extremist statistics for Chris Rae to lie about.
00:18:16.020But while doing that, they were taking off the mission.
00:18:20.440And he specifically, this whistleblower highlighted the mission they were taking off of, child sexual crimes.
00:18:25.780Our FBI, instead of investigating these crimes in the field, is being controlled by Washington headquarters to supply false information for a radical left headline that Joe Biden and the media can trumpet out.
00:18:40.780Now, yes, people are afraid because when they speak up, there's retribution if you speak up for the right things.
00:18:49.720People are taking on crime, reducing the opioid crisis, securing our border, you know, making gas cheaper.
00:18:56.560And they've seen what happens to guys like you and me and, you know, Trump.
00:19:29.720I don't think that would be good enough.
00:19:33.220I really think these people will not stop until there's a perp walk.
00:19:39.880And that guy has been more there has been more investigations on Donald Trump by all of the organizations around the world, all of the the CIA's and the MI6 is all around the world there or MI5 that have done their investigation.
00:20:40.060And these individuals have to spend years fighting the deep state that we talked about, who hid his evidence of innocence, which we which when I was deputy director of national intelligence, was able to find and declassify.
00:20:52.200And oh, by the way, the deep state came in and threatened me then and said national security will be destroyed and sources will be killed.
00:20:58.840And I said, we can do it in a smart way.
00:21:00.980And isn't the innocence of one American more important than yes, bogus concerns of national security?
00:21:06.660And so, you know, I learned and lived in that sort of cauldron of taking on the deep state.
00:21:12.100But they're the ones that are coming after Trump full bore, but they're not just coming after him.
00:21:18.820They're coming after everyone in his universe.
00:22:02.240You know, that's a great way of looking at it, I think, for me, is the following.
00:22:06.220They hate him because he accomplished what they were campaigning on for decades in a couple of short years under the marking as a Republican conservative leader in the United States of America.
00:22:18.560And let me just unpack that a little bit.
00:22:20.120What I mean is, you know, he ended the forever wars.
00:22:23.240I had a big I had a part in that when I was chief of staff at DOD.
00:22:25.680Just to name one thing, he put America first and secured the border.
00:22:29.360These used to be initiatives that were lauded by the liberals and the Democrats.
00:22:33.180They didn't want to send our young men and women off to fight forever wars and be killed.
00:22:40.260But look at the if you juxtapose Afghanistan and Ukraine, look at who now is cheering essentially war in the Ukraine.
00:22:47.780It's the people that that just hated on us for 20 years of Afghanistan.
00:22:53.200Yes. So the reason I think they hate Donald Trump is because he was the only human being who came in and literally took policies they stood for but couldn't accomplish or didn't want to.
00:23:02.720Because once they did, they'd have nothing else to do and made him his and convinced people in the Republican side.
00:23:09.340That some of these situations that we had in Afghanistan, we had the wrong view in.
00:23:13.880And look, I was some of those guys in some of those situations.
00:23:16.860And I can admit that I was wrong on those on some of those instances.
00:23:20.580And President Trump and I have had many arguments about it.
00:23:23.380But at the end of the day, I think that's why people hate him so much, because he did what they said they were going to go to Washington to do and tried it for 20 years.
00:23:32.320And he comes in and he does it and essentially, too, because the first two of his administration, two years of administration were marred by, you know, the Russiagate scandal and him being Putin's crony.
00:23:43.240Let me let me just stop here while we're on foreign wars and talk to you a little bit about Ukraine.
00:24:56.240Yeah, if I could take it from this perspective, as a guy who is, you know, a civilian in JSOC,
00:25:01.180Joint Special Operations Command and was fortunate enough to be the chief of staff in the Defense Department.
00:25:05.140I am all for funding our troops, our warriors, our guardsmen and women and our civilian force to the maximum possible.
00:25:14.160What I am 100 percent against is the defense industrial complex and no one has taken them on.
00:25:20.660My first day in office as the chief of staff, I called the five CEOs of the big five offices, Lockheed, Boeing, Northrup and a couple other carriers.
00:25:30.520And I talked to them and I said, look, you guys provide a valuable mission to the United States defense, but you also equally make billions off wasted products and services.
00:25:42.940But you know who wins the lobbying industry in Washington, the crooked politicians in D.C.
00:25:49.500And you asked why they're itching to see a war, because this town, tragically, as I have learned, is built and paid for in large part by this defense industrial complex that no one has had the gall to take on.
00:26:03.320Because every secretary of defense that goes through there came from it and has his golden parachute back out into it.
00:26:11.160So and until and unless you take them on like we try to and make it a priority and will be called anti-American for doing so, then we're going to keep mailing literally pallets of money to the Ukraine with zero accountability.
00:26:24.500I analogize the Ukraine as the following.
00:26:28.540We sent billions of dollars for 20 years and troops and soldiers to Afghanistan had no idea where the money went because it was the most corrupt country in the world.
00:26:35.740We are sending billions of dollars and the left is lauding us for doing it.
00:26:40.440But there isn't one banking infrastructure system over there to account for it.
00:26:44.980And when it gets there, you know what happens?
00:26:47.060Zelensky gets on the cover of Vogue magazine with his wife and says, America, why aren't you doing more?
00:26:52.280And one vignette that I can add is surface to air missile defense systems, which are near and dear to, you know, what we do around the world.
00:26:59.100We gave the Ukraine seven years worth of our supplies of surface to air missiles.
00:27:05.100Let's just put that in perspective here on it.
00:27:06.840It's going to take us seven years to restock that supply, which we gave away in the Ukraine.
00:27:49.880Because it became the anti-Trump rallying call to take on President Trump's agenda.
00:27:56.740You know, they lost it, the ball with January 6th because the facts came out and then Ukraine came in and they know they couldn't take on the blame they were left with for the failed policies which allowed Putin to invade the Ukraine in the first place.
00:28:11.060Who's now threatening nuclear war, by the way, because our leadership, Joe Biden and company, has no footing on the diplomatic international stage.
00:28:20.680They have no threat to defeat Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un or Vladimir Putin.
00:28:26.500And the reason the Ukraine has become the shiny object for the world is because if the radical left puts it out in the media that it's popular to do, then Joe Biden's going to trumpet it.
00:28:38.040I don't know if you saw Stacey Abrams was saying today, this heartbeat at six weeks doesn't happen.
00:28:45.880That's just a sound produced by men who are trying to control women's bodies.
00:28:52.080Are you now actually denying what an ultrasound does?
00:29:16.920Here's why she had to discredit the ultrasound.
00:29:20.780She had to discredit it because you moms will pick life for their child once they hear that heartbeat at a rate of about 80 percent, 80 percent come in.
00:29:34.200They want to abort, but they hear the heartbeat.
00:29:37.560They get the ultrasound 80 percent of the time they switch.
00:29:49.160I want you to dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby.
00:29:55.540Preborn.com is the they're the people that are the biggest competition, if you will, with Planned Parenthood.
00:30:05.320And things are so nuts and we need God's protection.
00:30:11.900And I can't think of a single thing that will grant us more peace and and more attaboy points than sincerely working to save children's lives.
00:30:25.060Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby or go to preborn.com slash Glenn.
00:30:42.960Yeah, I was a long time deputy assistant of the president for counterterrorism, essentially the head of counterterrorism.
00:30:48.160OK, for counterterrorism, we now have an administration that is using all of the tools from the Patriot Act, all the things that we said would never, ever happen in America.
00:31:01.220And you have him giving what I call the blood red speech, saying that there are terrorists and they vote for Republicans like Donald Trump.
00:31:15.300Can you give me any indication on how big the even the Nazis are in America?
00:31:24.540And what is what is the end game other than the obvious one?
00:31:33.840The end game is to label enough of us as falsely seditious, treasonous, violent extremists.
00:31:42.060And I take you back to the example of how the FBI has been caught padding statistics to label all Trump supporters and especially anyone tied to January 6th as a domestic violent extremist.
00:31:51.880That's fancy government verbiage for terrorists.
00:31:55.520And the difference that we did in the Trump administration versus this administration is we actually took on Iran.
00:32:03.360We didn't invite their president to our soil.
00:32:06.200We didn't say we want to get back in the JCPOA and pay you billions of dollars, which you can use to kill our men and women who are serving our country overseas.
00:32:13.920Donald Trump, I mean, just, you know, he gave me a specific set of marching orders when I headed up his counterterrorism program and national security apparatus.
00:32:20.960He said, Cash, we're just going to do some simple stuff.
00:32:23.640Go kill the emirs of ISIS, wipe out al Qaeda senior leadership, bring home American hostages, end the forever wars and bring back our men and women in uniform.
00:32:32.780You know, that's not really apolitical stuff.
00:32:35.300And I was in the situation with President Trump when we killed Baghdadi.
00:32:38.140It's probably one of the highlights of my career in government service, if you're allowed to say such a thing.
00:32:41.860And I thought, wow, we just took out the world's number one terrorist.
00:32:45.920And President Trump's first reaction was, go get me the names and numbers of the four American families whose children were butchered by this man.
00:33:08.260And that's the difference when that's just that's the difference.
00:33:11.240When a terrorist is an actual terrorist, they'll under Trump, they'll go out of their way to redefine them.
00:33:16.620When Americans are doing American activities and they are losing the battle, they the media, they will label us through the deep state as domestic violent extremists or terrorists.
00:34:04.980I think it's your duty when you're such a high level government officer to go in before Congress and testify with accountability and tell them the truth.
00:34:11.980Now, we did that and it cost me a couple hundred thousand dollars.
00:34:35.640And as a former prosecutor talking about the search warrant affidavit itself, there is no reason and also a violation of every rule of law we are taught at DOJ to name me and my personal information.
00:34:49.040It added no value to that search warrant for the public to see except one.
00:34:54.300Cash Patel is going to have a target on his head once again.
00:35:14.200Because I was the Russiagate guy, because I was Donald Trump's national security guy, because we had successes in both, because I was the guy that exposed the truth about January 6th when President Trump actually authorized federal military uniformed officers to come in and assist.
00:35:28.820They keep putting a target on my head.
00:35:30.940And I said, if I did something illegal or lied about something, you should hold me accountable 100 percent.
00:35:38.220But you are targeting me for destroying your fake disinformation narrative that you have leapt onto the American people.
00:35:46.720And so many people have voted because you have lied to them.
00:35:51.120And now these people are still in positions of power.
00:35:53.880OK, so I know this is ongoing and there's things you just can't talk about.
00:35:57.780But but I got to ask some questions, because I honestly watching this, it was very clear.
00:36:05.700And then you got the special master or whatever he is looking at things.
00:36:16.140I have no idea what the hell this story is, how it all actually is playing.
00:36:24.240So can I can we just take it a little piece at a time and maybe you can because if you don't understand it, people are worried about buying food and getting diapers and baby food.
00:36:36.760They are they have no idea what this story is really all about.
00:36:41.280And most importantly, why they should care.
00:36:45.800So so so let's start at the beginning.
00:36:51.000The president, not not I shouldn't say that the GAO, the government office.
00:36:56.800OK, they came in, they scooped up all of the papers.
00:37:00.020They put them in boxes, not at his order on.
00:37:30.140The simple process, agnostic speaking for every president, when a president leaves, he maintains a legacy security clearance and he is as he should.
00:37:39.700So should Trump's uniform application of the law.
00:37:42.020Because they are former commanders in chief who are called upon by companies, by government officials, by overseas officials for for advice and consultation because of the they are one of the only people in history of the world that ever held that position.
00:37:56.640So once those and look, Obama, for instance, has 30 million documents still in his possession somewhere.
00:38:01.660You know, you're the one that's what this is.
00:38:05.440This is this has been argued every day argued all the time because you have a presidential library.
00:38:11.040That's mainly why people will fight over it at the end.
00:38:15.120That's why Obama, you know, I want this in my library that belong.
00:38:19.820That's my history and belongs there, not at the National Archives.
00:38:38.900And then Bill Clinton has tapes in his sock drawer, which I will actually argue that he as a president claimed those were his personal records.
00:38:46.820He has an absolute right to have them.
00:38:48.200And if he doesn't want to release them, it's a problem for accountability.
00:39:03.860When it was Hillary Clinton who literally and by James Comey's own statement, actually moved classified information over 100 times in a sequence, but got a hall pass because he said she was reckless.
00:39:17.760He, by the way, James Comey, hijacked the decision from the DOJ.
00:39:20.840I was a national security prosecutor there at the time.
00:39:22.560I was infuriated at that and broke the law in doing so.
00:39:25.840And so what this is all about to me is basically teaching the American people about a uniform application of justice and not a two-tier system of justice.
00:39:39.360And if President Trump doesn't fight this, then they're never going to learn it.
00:39:42.760Whether documents were classified or not and what was is a side question to the ultimate rule of law and the commander in chief sitting atop the executive branch is the sole arbiter of classification.
00:40:00.480That's the thing Americans need to understand.
00:40:02.320When President Obama went out and told the world that we had killed Osama bin Laden, and rightfully so, not only did we do it, but he told the world, he wasn't back there saying, OK, let's run this rigorous process of declassification so I can go tell the world.
00:40:18.380He said, I'm going out there and saying it because I'm the president of the United States.
00:40:25.660So, in that famous picture of all the documents laid out, I actually heard CNN, and I think this is revisionist history because I think it was the first announced that they were showing them.
00:40:38.580But now it is, look at how unsecure these are.
00:40:41.400This is how these documents were found, all spread out on the floor like that.
00:40:49.100I mean, so, you know, what I've said publicly is I learned that there were documents at Mar-a-Lago when the world found out there were documents at Mar-a-Lago.
00:40:57.480So, you know, I can't testify that they were kept that way.
00:41:02.620Having been around President Trump, I don't think he would just have them scattered around in perfect position for pictures to be taken.
00:41:09.960And, you know, if I could borrow from my friend, John Ratcliffe, the former DNI, you know, great American, he said, you know, those are government cover sheets that say top secret on them.
00:41:21.480Those aren't classified in and of themselves.
00:41:24.200Also, just because documents have classification markings on them doesn't mean they're still classified.
00:41:30.680All documents that were once classified.
00:42:53.540All I know is what I could what's been publicly reported that the archive is for some reason made that referral that you said about Trump.
00:42:59.780But the same archivist didn't make that referral about Hillary Clinton.
00:43:03.740And so, again, the two tier system of justice.
00:43:07.920And I look, yeah, it is 100 percent true.
00:43:11.000The president earlier this year named John Solomon, me his representatives, formal representatives for the National Archives, which a president's allowed to do to start culling through the paperwork.
00:43:19.580And as you said, essentially building his library and, you know, putting out documentation for the American public.
00:43:25.080The fact remains, they've never let me go down there, nor has John Solomon been able to go down there.
00:43:30.500And they won't let a member of the press and somebody appointed by a former president go in and see the documents from the White House.
00:43:43.640As represented, John's a representative, too.
00:44:01.580But basically, we've gotten the Heisman and we've said, you know, with cute government language and a new excuse every day once we overcome the previous excuse.
00:44:11.640And the sole purpose of us going down there was to go and identify documents that should be made public for the American people, which, you know, that's that's not criminal.
00:44:22.920But of course, it is if you're doing it on behalf of Donald Trump.
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00:46:37.280So let me let me give it to you this way.
00:46:39.280So when Devin Nunes and I did Russiagate, we uncovered a swath of documents that we wanted out there for the public to see.
00:46:46.020And we have always said over the years, we only got out about 60 percent of the documents.
00:46:50.860So why weren't the rest ever turned over?
00:46:52.800Because they were blockaded, obfuscated and deflected by the deep state.
00:46:58.560And even a lot of President Trump's appointees were involved in the process of blocking him because it exposed more government corruption.
00:47:05.800So I believe those documents exist because I at one point in my tenure in Congress had seen them and and we had been seeking their public dissemination lawfully ever since.
00:47:20.780So I think that's what President Trump was going after.
00:47:24.960And and I've said in the you know, in the media in the past that, you know, President Trump was one of the most, you know, transparent presidents in U.S. history.
00:47:34.620And, you know, it's no secret that he issued even a tweet, I think, in October of 2020, where he said every Russiagate document and every Hillary Clinton email document is hereby declassified.
00:47:44.520Why they weren't put out, that answer lies with the deep state.
00:47:52.140So, hypothetically speaking, Donald Trump runs.
00:47:56.600He becomes president of the United States again.
00:48:33.780Yes, because I think he learned, you know, one of the most important lessons during his first term.
00:48:40.380That even though you should be able to trust government officials, especially high level career officials, you no longer can because they are the deep state.
00:48:52.240And I think that's why he's so tirelessly campaigning for a change in the representation in Congress and the Senate come this November.
00:48:58.440Because that's part and parcel of him accomplishing his America first agenda should he decide to run and win again.
00:49:05.100The second thing that has to happen is not just Congress.
00:49:09.500You have to appoint people not just to the cabinet secretary level positions, but the chiefs of staff, the deputies, the undersecretaries and so forth.
00:49:18.620At Treasury, at State, at DOD, at CIA and NSA, all of these people have to be appointed after a careful selection process, not to be loyal to the president.
00:49:28.340People always, you know, conflate these two things.
00:49:31.900But to be loyal to the job that the commander in chief has lawfully outlined you to do, which is follow the rule of law and his duly elected capacity as president and carry out the border enforcement mission, the countering narcotics mission, the overseas mission on taking on Russia and China and Iran and things like that.
00:49:51.760So we can, you know, we can go on for days about individuals that intervened in that process because they thought they stood above the president.
00:50:01.100And of course, the media lauded them for it.
00:50:03.280And then you've got to restore the heart of it all is you have got to go in there and clean house at DOJ and FBI and prosecute those in the positions of power that broke the law.
00:50:15.560I know it's a long shot and Vegas probably isn't taking those odds, but I do think it's doable.
00:50:21.760I watch this and I have been in situations myself where my wife has said, good God, we're living like a mini Jason Bourne movie here because this stuff is it's real.
00:50:36.100It's bizarre when you see it yourself.
00:51:18.980You know, I think what we find and I'm not going to speak for you, but I know what I find when I go around the country and as you often do at speaking engagements, you see the change in the American dynamic about the people that are there and the things that they are saying and talking about.
00:51:36.580And I think our messaging campaign is finally getting through to them in terms of educating not just the youth, but the adults.
00:51:42.420And that energizes me when I go to Arizona or Nevada or Florida or California or wherever and I see these people and they come up to me and say, I don't it's not that you need their thanks and they're not giving it insincerely, but they tell you specifically why.
00:52:00.300And they tell me it's because you and Trump and so and so did X for our community or did Y for the military or helped bring this hostage home to our state after she was gone for five years.
00:52:14.200Things like that, I think they're tuning into more because they've learned a lot of these Americans that they've been bamboozled by the disinformation campaigns of the fake news mafia and they need to be more involved.
00:52:25.700So I think why we don't stop is just that because if we stop, who's going, at least for President Trump's perspective, who's going to come in and fill that seat?
00:52:41.260I'm just trying to think about making sure that I've covered everything I wanted to cover on the on the Mar-a-Lago thing.
00:52:52.120And I guess, I mean, I, I need you to explain to the American people why this happening to Donald Trump or how it affects them that I don't care who you voted for.
00:53:12.980And this is the way, this is the time I sort of tell you if the shoe were on the other foot analogy, right?
00:53:20.080And it's a little colloquial, but it's about as easy a way to break it down as you possibly can.
00:53:25.580What if Donald Trump were Joe Biden and Joe Biden were Donald Trump and you applied the same sets of facts to these situations or better yet, Barack Obama?
00:53:35.140What if the FBI raided Barack Obama's home in Chicago, ransacked it and turned it upside down after getting a search warrant against a former president of the United States for supposedly having classified information?
00:53:50.300These same people that are excoriating President Trump would be out there excoriating the FBI and DOJ for these actions.
00:53:59.340And in order to change that and defeat the two tier system of justice, you have to level that field.
00:54:06.920And that's why people need to care, because if you don't want it to happen to you in your own homes and you don't want it to happen to your brothers and your sisters and your moms and your dads because they are America first people or because they support Donald Trump.
00:54:20.720Make no mistake, that's who they're targeting and until you fix it, they're going to continue to target you.
00:54:28.000And that is why I think Americans do care.
00:54:30.560But that is also why I think more Americans need to care together.
00:54:39.360I know we talk about glowing poo in my new book, but other than that, no.
00:54:43.680Now, Glowy, I guess, is a government agent or informant infiltrating, often right-leaning political space with a supposed intention of surveilling violent extremists provoking entrapment.
00:55:03.120That's just a confidential informant, you know, and this takes me back to January 6th.
00:55:07.680How is it that a person like Ray Epps and company were on the FBI's most wanted list on day one and removed on day two for the incidents of January 6th and all the videotapes that we've seen about him?
00:55:25.140And then the head of the FBI counterintelligence division goes before Congress and is asked by one of the senators, is Ray Epps a government informant, an undercover operative?
00:55:51.720They use them in the Whitmer prosecution, which resulted in a hung jury and acquittal for half the defendants up there.
00:55:58.180So they are being used, I think, to target political operations.
00:56:02.880And it's another constitutional oversight rule that Congress has to get the documentation out for, especially on January 6th and the likes of Ray Epps to see who in the FBI knew and who ordered it and why they covered it up.
00:56:17.620Let me ask you some questions and just tell me the biggest lesson you learned or the the the the shock that you just did not expect in each of these categories.
00:56:34.240The hate, the the the outright hateful lying when from the time from when I was a congressional staffer through my tenure in the Trump administration to now, I thought and knew the media could be dirty, but I did not know they could be so hateful and vindictive and vengeful and would lie about it just to get their way.
00:57:11.140Let's go with the U.S. first, Facebook, Twitter and whatnot.
00:57:13.520We've now found out, no surprise, as Devin and I started to unveil way back when that Facebook had been approached by the FBI to assist in disinformation operations, especially when it came to the Hunter Biden laptop and that Mark Zuckerberg spent four hundred million dollars in an election cycle for what we don't exactly know yet.
00:57:34.020And so when you have a company of that size and you carry yourself out to be a pro-American company, welcoming of all people and you perform those activities, then you censor freedom of speech.
00:57:47.560Those are the biggest threats to American democracy because they are the ones that get the message out more than anyone else.
00:57:54.740Now, when you switch to overseas, look at what China has done with big tech.
00:58:01.220You know, we took on TikTok for a reason and shut them down.
00:58:03.460It's now been proven that the reason we shut them down was because they were selling your information to the Chinese Communist Party so they could target Americans.
00:58:14.480This is what big tech is allowed to do.
00:59:09.120They essentially allowed that company and we caught them to to just shuffle information of your kids, of your brothers, of your sisters, whoever was on TikTok in America over to the Chinese Communist Party.
01:00:36.460The Chinese Communist Party and the Russians know who you are from your association with TikTok and take all that information and make a profile of you.
01:00:45.460And when you're a grown up and you're in a position of leadership, they will use it to damage this country.
01:00:51.700Let's say you're talking to a Democrat right now, voted Democrat their whole life.
01:00:56.580They're not overly political and they're they're not a Marxist.
01:01:05.400They follow and they don't like Donald Trump.
01:01:07.840And they think that, you know, some people are very extreme on the right.
01:01:14.220What do you say to that person to open their eyes from you based on your experience of what you've seen?
01:01:22.740I would ask them to give me their biggest example of why they believe that to be the case.
01:01:29.760And what's likely to come out of their mouth is something associated with Russiagate, something to do with January 6th, something to do with the impeachment one or two or something maybe to do with Mar-a-Lago.
01:01:41.580And then if they're willing to have a conversation, you know, you walk them through the facts and you say, OK, you said this was a lawful operation to take on and spy on a presidential president of the United States.
01:01:53.940Well, the facts that are borne out through an independent review, inspector general's report, have revoked those warrants.
01:02:01.200The FBI has admitted they lied and they got caught and people were fired.
01:02:06.000And John Durham is prosecuting some of them.
01:02:09.120Now, they might not want to listen to them, but I'm willing to have those conversations, be it Russiagate or January 6th in the National Guard and troop deployments and how we had it right.
01:02:17.400And Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser blocked us from protecting the Capitol.
01:03:33.860You have a whistleblower and Eric Chiaramella and his buddy Vindman who comes in and makes up a complete falsehood.
01:03:41.700So that they can then go into Congress and say, we're whistleblowers, make sure nothing happens to us.
01:03:47.700President Trump is making side deals and quid pro quos and criminal activity with the Ukrainians.
01:03:53.060Then you bring in Fiona Hill, the lady who I say basically is the epicenter of Russiagate, because she not only hired Igor Danchenkov and introduced Christopher Steele to the DOJ.
01:04:07.700But she goes out there and says to the effect, I'm quoting, you know, Kash Patel had these private meetings with President Trump on the Ukraine.
01:04:16.500Who she had had to admit to the world under oath during the testimony that she had never met me.
01:04:25.480She had never spoken to me and she could not identify what meeting she was talking about because she wasn't in it because it never took place, nor did she know anyone that was in it.
01:04:36.180So when you get thrust into something like that, and I have ongoing defamation suits as a result of that against New York Times, Politico and CNN, because now half the world or more of it thinks I'm some sort of guy that was conspiring with Donald Trump to commit treasonous criminal activity with the Ukraine.
01:04:56.380And then once we debunked that, the Democrats and the radical left went on to their next iteration of whatever they were going to do, which was January 6th.
01:05:06.280And, you know, again, I found myself in the hot seat just because I was chief of staff of the DOD then.
01:05:12.340And similarly, I said, well, let's challenge your narrative with the facts.
01:05:17.000And they never want to have that conversation.
01:05:21.360Hostage negotiations with some of the worst countries in the world.
01:05:45.880Think about if you're if someone in your community, let alone your brother or sister, was taken, they were gone for two, three, four or five years.
01:05:51.860Would you want them to do everything they could?
01:05:54.880He said, go bring them home, bring them home from Iran, bring them home from North Korea, bring them home from Turkey, bring them home from Afghanistan, bring them home from Syria.
01:06:03.380I was the first government official in a decade to go into downtown Damascus and meet with Bashar al-Assad's number one guy and demand the release of Austin Tyson, other American hostages.
01:07:47.300I have never heard of individuals who are over the age of 60 with little or no criminal record, being charged with misdemeanors or low level felonies, being detained, no bond in the United States of America.
01:08:00.040And I handled thousands of these cases.
01:08:03.940It happened to dozens and scores of them.
01:08:05.620And unfortunately, we haven't seen any courageous judiciary officers, judges come in and take these cases on and say, what are you doing, DOJ and FBI?
01:08:16.000And the only way to fix it is and I'm afraid it's going to be too far down the road is because until you change the DOJ and FBI, because they're in charge, they're bringing the prosecutions.