The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 155 ｜ Deep State EXPOSED： Trump's 'Mar-a-Lago Point Man' on TRUTH of Raid ｜ Kash Patel ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 You know, we talk a lot about the rule of law, but what we should focus on is the force of law.

00:00:06.720 The rule of law is about order. It keeps legislative powers away from abuse.

00:00:12.740 It's designed to prevent tyranny. It ensures that Lady Justice remains blind. 1.00

00:00:18.720 It's an example of actual equality, and most importantly, it strives for nonviolence.

00:00:25.720 However, the force of law is not as clear.

00:00:30.720 It uses power and the power of law to bring disorder, often resulting in violence or coercion that labels itself as justice.

00:00:41.240 It's what happens when somebody rips the blindfold off of Lady Justice's face. 1.00

00:00:46.780 It's usually somebody in a ruling class that will do it, an elite.

00:00:51.560 It's what allows presidents and rulers to dig their grubby fingers into legislative powers. 0.97

00:00:58.860 This can lead to a total suspension of law if it all gets out of control.

00:01:05.280 Here in America, it's all about to lose control.

00:01:09.800 The rule of law has vanished.

00:01:12.840 We've seen it happen live, especially over the last six years.

00:01:16.340 Well, today's guest is a guy who's witnessed the systematic corruption up close.

00:01:23.380 In fact, I would suggest that this was a threat on his life.

00:01:27.660 Remember the page after page after page that was completely redacted for the Mar-a-Lago thing?

00:01:34.420 This paragraph, for some reason, just mentions his name.

00:01:38.920 You'll hear why he thinks that's so important and what it was really meant to do.

00:01:44.380 He's a former national security prosecutor.

00:01:48.080 He has held posts within the CIA and the House Select Committee on Intelligence.

00:01:53.680 He has had several high-ranking positions within the White House, including chief of staff to the secretary of defense.

00:02:01.100 As Trump's counterterrorism advisor, he traveled to Damascus in an effort to negotiate the release of two Americans being held hostage by the Assad regime.

00:02:12.100 He was the lead investigator during the Russiagate hoax.

00:02:17.300 His investigation led to the firing of Peter Strzok and several other questionable bureaucrats.

00:02:24.360 They've retaliated against him with the force of law.

00:02:30.220 It's no coincidence that he was named in the Mar-a-Lago search, the search warrant affidavit.

00:02:36.240 His name was one of the few parts of the document that wasn't redacted.

00:02:42.920 He was also given access by Trump to the National Archives.

00:02:47.200 What did he find?

00:02:48.720 Did he ever go?

00:02:50.920 So if anybody knows about what the FBI was after at Mar-a-Lago, it's probably him.

00:02:57.440 If he if anybody knows what the deep state is, it's probably him.

00:03:04.000 As a result, he has faced death threats, racism that you would not believe.

00:03:09.380 But as you're about to see, he is what I would describe as unflappable.

00:03:16.920 He does not back down in the face of corruption.

00:03:20.500 Today's podcast.

00:03:21.860 Welcome, Kash Patel.

00:03:23.880 OK, before we get to Kash, let me tell you, we don't know the future for sure.

00:03:29.300 Nobody does.

00:03:30.440 But I can kind of guess and you will really see that as this interview progresses,

00:03:37.020 if it progresses the way I think it's going to is a good shot.

00:03:42.360 Things don't work out real well.

00:03:44.520 Might be a bumpy ride.

00:03:46.600 So what do you do?

00:03:47.700 You got to prepare your family right now.

00:03:49.840 Oh, just today, there was the the farmers of Europe got together and made an announcement.

00:03:57.740 Vegetables are going to be hard to find this winter.

00:04:02.060 Oh, good.

00:04:02.880 So energy and food.

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00:04:15.580 So would you consider storing some food?

00:04:19.080 I mean, you don't know what the emergency could be.

00:04:22.600 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:04:24.260 Would you be surprised if I said to you on this just in aliens have just visited the White House

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00:04:59.320 Cash, welcome to the program.

00:05:14.120 Thank you so much for sitting down with me.

00:05:16.920 Glenn, thanks so much for having me on.

00:05:19.200 And if I can just take 30 seconds to say, I grew up watching your show and learning so much about modern American politics and history.

00:05:27.600 And for me to be sitting here, it's really weird and awesome.

00:05:30.940 Wow.

00:05:31.160 Thank you for that.

00:05:31.900 I appreciate that.

00:05:33.000 You are somebody that I have wanted to talk to for a long time.

00:05:37.700 Because of your credentials, you've been all over the world.

00:05:40.960 You've been won citations from the CIA.

00:05:44.280 You have been in line to be the CIA director.

00:05:48.760 There is no one that I know of, or very few, I should say, that could define the deep state perhaps as well as you.

00:05:58.980 Because you've seen it from both sides.

00:06:02.480 Can you tell me what the deep state really is?

00:06:05.080 Wow, we could go on forever.

00:06:08.060 But I kind of call it an operation that's run by government gangsters.

00:06:14.760 And I don't use that term lightly.

00:06:16.880 I came to that term over the years where I found the erosion of our law enforcement intelligence communities.

00:06:24.840 For me, it started as a public defense.

00:06:27.260 When I caught FBI agents lying on the witness stand and there was no retribution or accountability, I should say.

00:06:34.000 Then I became a terrorism prosecutor at Maine Justice.

00:06:38.320 And similarly, I began to work on some pretty high-profile cases, such as Benghazi.

00:06:44.740 And I remember reporting to Attorney General Eric Holder saying, we're going about this the wrong way.

00:06:49.380 Not getting the bad guys killed.

00:06:53.120 You're politicizing this act.

00:06:55.920 And they just let it go.

00:06:58.020 And so incentive carries from there.

00:07:00.160 But I've always believed the top level, whether I was chief of staff at DOD or whatnot, those levels have to be filled with people who serve the mission.

00:07:10.120 And those people, the ones currently, Chris Wray and at the time Barr and now Garland, were giving top cover for the corruption at the FBI and DOJ.

00:07:20.920 So I had a conversation with Bill Barr, and I found him to be a very reasonable man, etc.

00:07:28.020 But as I've watched what has happened since he's left, the things he said, well, I was just protecting, make sure that this thing could come out and whatever.

00:07:38.860 It's not playing out that way.

00:07:40.820 So he's a very intelligent man.

00:07:44.120 Was he part of the deep state or was he just naive?

00:07:52.220 No, you can't be a two-time attorney general and have the accolades and acumen that Bill Barr does and be naive.

00:07:59.040 You are part of the cover-up if you don't help expose it.

00:08:02.280 And look, let me just give you one example.

00:08:03.960 As the chief investigator for Devin Nunes on Russiagate, where we exposed the corruption about the lies to the FISA court perpetrated by DOJ and FBI who are willing to sling false information for political witch-hunting purposes.

00:08:17.940 We exposed that.

00:08:19.300 Then we took that information over the course of years, and we showed it to Bill Barr when he was the attorney general.

00:08:24.400 And we said, look, we did that to Rod Rosenstein, too.

00:08:27.000 And we said, this didn't happen on your watch.

00:08:28.720 Help us clean it up.

00:08:29.600 We did the same thing with Chris Wray.

00:08:30.960 And we supplied them with all the information.

00:08:33.720 We said, help us.

00:08:34.860 You're the executive.

00:08:35.700 You're the top law enforcement officer.

00:08:37.720 The American people want accountability.

00:08:39.360 Will you provide it?

00:08:40.760 And what I found, unfortunately, is that what the deep state does best is ride its mountain of arrogance for corruption cover-up purposes.

00:08:48.520 And Bill Barr is right now, you know, look, he's personally attacked me, which is fine.

00:08:52.340 You know, it doesn't bother me.

00:08:54.020 I've been attacked by everyone in the country.

00:08:56.760 And most of the time I'm being attacked by whether it's liberals or Democrats or conservatives or whatnot, it just means I'm over the top.

00:09:03.620 And I called out Bill Barr for failing to do his job.

00:09:07.320 He took, you know, I guess, ire against that and wrote about me in his book about how I wasn't qualified to do this or that.

00:09:14.020 And I found it ironic from a man who became attorney general at the age of 37 when he had less experience than I did for some of the jobs I held when I was older than he was.

00:09:23.800 And so, you know, I guess he's doing a sort of book tour lap.

00:09:28.100 So is this, Cash, the deep state, do you believe that this is a group of people that don't care who the president is, they're going to do what they want, or are they controlled by a party, or does it matter?

00:09:51.720 Wow, that's a great question.

00:09:54.980 You know, no one's ever put it to me like that.

00:09:56.840 I think it's a hybrid, Glenn, if I'm being honest.

00:09:59.200 I think when Donald Trump got elected, it was, we don't care who the president is.

00:10:04.260 I think if you take the watershed moment before his presidency, it was, we know better than anyone else.

00:10:10.760 And once you combine those two periods of time and fast forward to today, it's almost like we don't care.

00:10:18.380 We are in these positions, be it sec, def, chairman, AG, FBI director, what have you.

00:10:24.260 The public be damned.

00:10:25.740 What I found is these people have come into these positions to service their own egos and forgot their oath of office to serve the American people.

00:10:33.400 And time and time again, you see that on the national security front.

00:10:36.160 It's what I lobby against the most is the politicization of the national security and law enforcement apparatus in this country to the degradation of the FBI, DOJ, and DOD.

00:10:45.780 And now you see most Americans, less than half have faith in these institutions.

00:10:49.360 In 2022 America, we don't believe in the core values that stood up our country to protect Americans first.

00:10:58.240 It's just a tragedy.

00:10:59.520 Because we know it's not happening.

00:11:01.760 I mean, you go back to Benghazi.

00:11:03.160 We know we didn't get the truth.

00:11:06.640 We know.

00:11:07.900 I think all Americans, I don't care who you voted for.

00:11:11.000 If you were honest and you just looked at the facts, you may not blame it on the same people or whatever, but you know that wasn't the truth.

00:11:20.640 You look at what's happening to Donald Trump now.

00:11:23.920 And he took documents that he said were deeply he declassified.

00:11:29.440 It's up to him to declassify them.

00:11:32.960 It long story short, he did what he did, but he was president of the United States with the ability to do that.

00:11:40.500 And then you look at the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who actually sent people into a skiff and told them to cut off the top of where it said top secret.

00:11:55.560 She knew what she was doing.

00:11:58.060 One, well, she didn't have the intention to hurt the United States.

00:12:02.980 Well, yeah, but if I did that and I had great intentions, you know, I just wanted to keep it for a record.

00:12:09.160 You know what I mean?

00:12:10.020 I would go to prison forever.

00:12:13.700 Donald Trump has to apparently go to prison forever.

00:12:17.460 So how can we have faith in these because they're not treating the same things in the same way?

00:12:29.060 You're absolutely right.

00:12:30.140 And the way to restore that is to destroy the two tier system of justice that now exists in everyday America.

00:12:35.040 And it doesn't just exist at the FBI and DOJ prosecutorial levels.

00:12:38.640 You see it exists at the state levels with the state attorneys general, such as in New York.

00:12:42.520 You also see it at the whistleblower levels where certain whistleblowers like Chiaramella and Vindman are regaled and rewarded.

00:12:48.540 Yes.

00:12:48.740 And other whistleblowers who are recently coming forward at the FBI with actual corruption are essentially fired.

00:12:55.540 Now, returning back to the two tier system of justice, this is something maybe I'm biased in for my time as a prosecutor and public defender.

00:13:01.980 But it used to be this was the one country in the world where if someone broke the law, the same law applied to everyone.

00:13:10.740 Now, but as you highlighted succinctly, that change with the Hillary Clinton model in terms of how to handle classified information at that point. 0.92

00:13:20.280 And it's just been a disastrous sort of downhill landslide ever since.

00:13:26.120 And there is a solution.

00:13:27.700 I, you know, I've been a part of the machine to know that there is a solution to be ticked off enough to get angry at the machine and then get past that anger and say, how do we fix it?

00:13:36.060 One, people always say, you know, is it just enough to have Congress?

00:13:40.020 Is it enough to have the White House?

00:13:41.080 It's not enough to have those three things alone.

00:13:43.620 You need the American people.

00:13:45.440 If the American people aren't educated in the fact that this can happen in modern day America, because, Glenn, you know more than anybody.

00:13:52.040 Half of America, because of the disinformation campaign put on by the Democrats and the radical left and the corrupt FBI, thinks Donald Trump's an FBI asset or excuse me, a Russian asset.

00:14:00.800 We have to go back and reteach the truth and we shouldn't have to do that.

00:14:06.960 But I think the American populace, I've always said this, has the biggest power to move the DOJ and the FBI, more so than Congress ever could with their subpoenas and more so than the White House could with their appointments of AGs and directors.

00:14:20.020 The only thing the FBI and DOJ listen to is the will of the American people.

00:14:24.480 And if the will is saying you have violated your oaths and created a two tier system of justice, we have to abolish it.

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00:16:07.280 Maybe you can answer this question.

00:16:10.040 I just was in a meeting with my production staff and I asked my producers, OK, here's the question I want answered.

00:16:17.020 We all know.

00:16:18.260 I mean, even people on the other side that vote the other way.

00:16:22.000 If they're aware at all of what's happening just in their schools, at no time did any American, except the extraordinary fringe, say, well, an adult that's attracted to a child, we should think of that as a different choice.

00:16:45.220 No time has American ever. 0.55

00:16:46.740 We have always known pedophilia is an evil act.

00:16:51.580 It's an evil act.

00:16:54.500 Now, why aren't people standing up?

00:16:56.860 Why aren't people?

00:16:57.920 I mean, in mass, why aren't people standing up?

00:17:01.340 A couple of suggestions, and I'd love your comments on them.

00:17:05.180 Are they afraid?

00:17:08.580 Are they afraid of the FBI?

00:17:11.200 And because I know I, for the first time, for the first time, am very concerned.

00:17:21.400 I wouldn't say afraid because I don't like that word.

00:17:24.560 But I, I have actually thought.

00:17:29.840 I keep doing this.

00:17:31.740 What is my life going to end up looking like?

00:17:35.880 That's terrifying.

00:17:36.940 I'm with you.

00:17:37.580 I'm with you on that.

00:17:39.080 And you're right.

00:17:39.720 I don't like the word being afraid or terrified, especially when it comes to standing up to corrupt government activities.

00:17:44.540 And I think the answer for this lies in basically the following.

00:17:49.360 Look, I'll just give you one example to extrapolate on your point.

00:17:53.140 Crimes against children.

00:17:54.500 Who can't rally around stopping such a heinous act?

00:17:58.600 But we actually have just been told by the whistleblower that went to Senator Grassley's office and Senator Jordan's office or Congressman Jordan's office that not only was the FBI deviating and falsifying and cooking the book so we can have more violent extremist statistics for Chris Rae to lie about.

00:18:16.020 But while doing that, they were taking off the mission.

00:18:20.440 And he specifically, this whistleblower highlighted the mission they were taking off of, child sexual crimes.

00:18:25.780 Our FBI, instead of investigating these crimes in the field, is being controlled by Washington headquarters to supply false information for a radical left headline that Joe Biden and the media can trumpet out.

00:18:40.780 Now, yes, people are afraid because when they speak up, there's retribution if you speak up for the right things.

00:18:49.720 People are taking on crime, reducing the opioid crisis, securing our border, you know, making gas cheaper.

00:18:56.560 And they've seen what happens to guys like you and me and, you know, Trump.

00:19:01.100 We are assailed nonstop.

00:19:04.400 You've had death threats.

00:19:05.380 I've had death threats.

00:19:06.360 Who needs that?

00:19:07.020 We've had heinous racial slurs thrown our way.

00:19:10.300 And these are all coming from people who said we were the evil.

00:19:13.400 Right.

00:19:13.540 But let me let me let me take what you just said and add to this.

00:19:19.400 I really don't know, Cash, if Donald Trump said today, you know what?

00:19:25.780 I'm just going to play golf for the rest of my life.

00:19:27.980 I'm not interested in politics.

00:19:29.720 I don't think that would be good enough.

00:19:33.220 I really think these people will not stop until there's a perp walk.

00:19:39.880 And that guy has been more there has been more investigations on Donald Trump by all of the organizations around the world, all of the the CIA's and the MI6 is all around the world there or MI5 that have done their investigation.

00:19:59.360 And honestly, not an honest event.

00:20:02.240 They weren't like, you know, bring me the truth.

00:20:03.860 They were like, get him if they if they have to file a case in a civil court after three years of investigation.

00:20:14.440 Again, this guy is clean and they will not be happy until he is on a perp walk.

00:20:23.740 Do you agree with that?

00:20:24.760 You're absolutely right.

00:20:27.040 And you're right.

00:20:27.860 It's not enough just to get Trump.

00:20:29.840 Trump is at the top of the pyramid.

00:20:31.820 But you've seen what they've done.

00:20:33.480 They falsely go after people in Trump's circle and set them up and frame them.

00:20:37.780 Michael Flynn, just to name one.

00:20:40.060 And these individuals have to spend years fighting the deep state that we talked about, who hid his evidence of innocence, which we which when I was deputy director of national intelligence, was able to find and declassify.

00:20:52.200 And oh, by the way, the deep state came in and threatened me then and said national security will be destroyed and sources will be killed.

00:20:58.840 And I said, we can do it in a smart way.

00:21:00.980 And isn't the innocence of one American more important than yes, bogus concerns of national security?

00:21:06.660 And so, you know, I learned and lived in that sort of cauldron of taking on the deep state.

00:21:12.100 But they're the ones that are coming after Trump full bore, but they're not just coming after him.

00:21:18.820 They're coming after everyone in his universe.

00:21:20.340 So why?

00:21:21.000 Everyone he ever talked to.

00:21:22.020 So why?

00:21:22.700 I personally think it's because the deep state is all for a reshaping of the Western world.

00:21:30.360 ESG, the World Economic Forum, that they are knee deep in all of that.

00:21:35.820 They're also knee deep in corruption and money and God only knows what happened really in Ukraine.

00:21:43.440 So you've got all of all of that.

00:21:46.660 I think that's why they were trying to stop Donald Trump, because he wrecks all of their plans.

00:21:53.800 What else would it be?

00:21:55.560 What?

00:21:55.920 Why do they hate him so much?

00:22:00.180 I think I.

00:22:02.240 You know, that's a great way of looking at it, I think, for me, is the following.

00:22:06.220 They hate him because he accomplished what they were campaigning on for decades in a couple of short years under the marking as a Republican conservative leader in the United States of America.

00:22:18.560 And let me just unpack that a little bit.

00:22:20.120 What I mean is, you know, he ended the forever wars.

00:22:23.240 I had a big I had a part in that when I was chief of staff at DOD.

00:22:25.680 Just to name one thing, he put America first and secured the border.

00:22:29.360 These used to be initiatives that were lauded by the liberals and the Democrats.

00:22:33.180 They didn't want to send our young men and women off to fight forever wars and be killed.

00:22:38.280 The Ukraine is just another example. 0.92

00:22:40.260 But look at the if you juxtapose Afghanistan and Ukraine, look at who now is cheering essentially war in the Ukraine.

00:22:47.780 It's the people that that just hated on us for 20 years of Afghanistan. 1.00

00:22:53.200 Yes. So the reason I think they hate Donald Trump is because he was the only human being who came in and literally took policies they stood for but couldn't accomplish or didn't want to.

00:23:02.720 Because once they did, they'd have nothing else to do and made him his and convinced people in the Republican side.

00:23:09.340 That some of these situations that we had in Afghanistan, we had the wrong view in.

00:23:13.880 And look, I was some of those guys in some of those situations.

00:23:16.860 And I can admit that I was wrong on those on some of those instances.

00:23:20.580 And President Trump and I have had many arguments about it.

00:23:23.380 But at the end of the day, I think that's why people hate him so much, because he did what they said they were going to go to Washington to do and tried it for 20 years.

00:23:32.320 And he comes in and he does it and essentially, too, because the first two of his administration, two years of administration were marred by, you know, the Russiagate scandal and him being Putin's crony. 0.64

00:23:43.240 Let me let me just stop here while we're on foreign wars and talk to you a little bit about Ukraine.

00:23:51.560 Yeah.

00:23:53.480 I just feel like for the very first time, America is itching for a war.

00:23:59.880 I've never seen us.

00:24:03.200 You know, we we've done clandestine stuff.

00:24:05.660 Everybody knows if Russia's in a war, we're there supplying stuff.

00:24:09.440 But we don't say it.

00:24:11.220 You know what I mean?

00:24:12.100 This time we are saying, oh, by the way, we're sending over fifteen hundred more tanks and we got some drones.

00:24:19.140 Look at these great drones.

00:24:20.180 We're sending them. 0.77

00:24:21.520 It's we are antagonizing.

00:24:24.560 And we're sending all of this money over to the most corrupt country in the world, in the world.

00:24:34.440 No accountants are going with it.

00:24:36.580 There's no accountability.

00:24:38.600 It was totally corrupt with the Biden administration or the Obama administration with Joe Biden and his son over there.

00:24:46.840 God only knows what is happening.

00:24:49.160 It's helping collapse our own currency.

00:24:52.720 What the hell is going on?

00:24:55.360 Well, let me.

00:24:56.240 Yeah, if I could take it from this perspective, as a guy who is, you know, a civilian in JSOC,

00:25:01.180 Joint Special Operations Command and was fortunate enough to be the chief of staff in the Defense Department.

00:25:05.140 I am all for funding our troops, our warriors, our guardsmen and women and our civilian force to the maximum possible.

00:25:14.160 What I am 100 percent against is the defense industrial complex and no one has taken them on.

00:25:20.660 My first day in office as the chief of staff, I called the five CEOs of the big five offices, Lockheed, Boeing, Northrup and a couple other carriers.

00:25:30.520 And I talked to them and I said, look, you guys provide a valuable mission to the United States defense, but you also equally make billions off wasted products and services.

00:25:42.940 But you know who wins the lobbying industry in Washington, the crooked politicians in D.C.

00:25:49.500 And you asked why they're itching to see a war, because this town, tragically, as I have learned, is built and paid for in large part by this defense industrial complex that no one has had the gall to take on.

00:26:03.320 Because every secretary of defense that goes through there came from it and has his golden parachute back out into it.

00:26:09.920 Mark Esper being the latest.

00:26:11.160 So and until and unless you take them on like we try to and make it a priority and will be called anti-American for doing so, then we're going to keep mailing literally pallets of money to the Ukraine with zero accountability.

00:26:24.500 I analogize the Ukraine as the following.

00:26:26.140 It's simple.

00:26:26.740 It's the modern day Afghanistan. 1.00

00:26:28.540 We sent billions of dollars for 20 years and troops and soldiers to Afghanistan had no idea where the money went because it was the most corrupt country in the world.

00:26:35.740 We are sending billions of dollars and the left is lauding us for doing it.

00:26:40.440 But there isn't one banking infrastructure system over there to account for it.

00:26:44.980 And when it gets there, you know what happens?

00:26:47.060 Zelensky gets on the cover of Vogue magazine with his wife and says, America, why aren't you doing more?

00:26:52.280 And one vignette that I can add is surface to air missile defense systems, which are near and dear to, you know, what we do around the world.

00:26:59.100 We gave the Ukraine seven years worth of our supplies of surface to air missiles.

00:27:05.100 Let's just put that in perspective here on it.

00:27:06.840 It's going to take us seven years to restock that supply, which we gave away in the Ukraine.

00:27:16.640 Why?

00:27:19.960 Because this administration thinks it's the cool, for lack of a better word, thing to do.

00:27:27.120 First, look, I'm not against helping other countries.

00:27:30.040 You're talking to an Indian kid who comes from one of the poorest countries on planet Earth.

00:27:34.300 But I'm not out there saying America should send billions to India.

00:27:38.880 You know, I might get hated on it by my own people.

00:27:41.720 But I said I was born and raised as American to help Americans first.

00:27:45.620 And then if we can and have the wherewithal, help everybody else.

00:27:49.040 Why the Ukraine?

00:27:49.880 Because it became the anti-Trump rallying call to take on President Trump's agenda.

00:27:56.740 You know, they lost it, the ball with January 6th because the facts came out and then Ukraine came in and they know they couldn't take on the blame they were left with for the failed policies which allowed Putin to invade the Ukraine in the first place.

00:28:11.060 Who's now threatening nuclear war, by the way, because our leadership, Joe Biden and company, has no footing on the diplomatic international stage.

00:28:20.680 They have no threat to defeat Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un or Vladimir Putin.

00:28:26.500 And the reason the Ukraine has become the shiny object for the world is because if the radical left puts it out in the media that it's popular to do, then Joe Biden's going to trumpet it.

00:28:38.040 I don't know if you saw Stacey Abrams was saying today, this heartbeat at six weeks doesn't happen.

00:28:45.880 That's just a sound produced by men who are trying to control women's bodies. 1.00

00:28:52.080 Are you now actually denying what an ultrasound does?

00:28:58.420 Are you saying, yeah, I'm in.

00:29:03.460 Yeah, record that.

00:29:05.040 Put it in a magic box.

00:29:06.760 So when you put that gel on that belly, you just have made by men. 0.66

00:29:13.900 What are you nuts?

00:29:16.920 Here's why she had to discredit the ultrasound. 1.00

00:29:20.780 She had to discredit it because you moms will pick life for their child once they hear that heartbeat at a rate of about 80 percent, 80 percent come in. 1.00

00:29:34.200 They want to abort, but they hear the heartbeat.

00:29:37.560 They get the ultrasound 80 percent of the time they switch.

00:29:43.320 You know how remarkable that is.

00:29:45.360 I want you to be part of a movement.

00:29:49.160 I want you to dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby.

00:29:55.540 Preborn.com is the they're the people that are the biggest competition, if you will, with Planned Parenthood.

00:30:05.320 And things are so nuts and we need God's protection.

00:30:11.900 And I can't think of a single thing that will grant us more peace and and more attaboy points than sincerely working to save children's lives.

00:30:25.060 Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby or go to preborn.com slash Glenn.

00:30:32.340 You played an important role.

00:30:34.700 I can't remember what your title was when you were working against terrorism in the United States.

00:30:41.180 What position did you have?

00:30:42.960 Yeah, I was a long time deputy assistant of the president for counterterrorism, essentially the head of counterterrorism.

00:30:48.160 OK, for counterterrorism, we now have an administration that is using all of the tools from the Patriot Act, all the things that we said would never, ever happen in America.

00:31:01.220 And you have him giving what I call the blood red speech, saying that there are terrorists and they vote for Republicans like Donald Trump.

00:31:15.300 Can you give me any indication on how big the even the Nazis are in America?

00:31:24.540 And what is what is the end game other than the obvious one?

00:31:33.840 The end game is to label enough of us as falsely seditious, treasonous, violent extremists.

00:31:42.060 And I take you back to the example of how the FBI has been caught padding statistics to label all Trump supporters and especially anyone tied to January 6th as a domestic violent extremist.

00:31:51.880 That's fancy government verbiage for terrorists.

00:31:55.520 And the difference that we did in the Trump administration versus this administration is we actually took on Iran.

00:32:03.360 We didn't invite their president to our soil.

00:32:06.200 We didn't say we want to get back in the JCPOA and pay you billions of dollars, which you can use to kill our men and women who are serving our country overseas.

00:32:13.920 Donald Trump, I mean, just, you know, he gave me a specific set of marching orders when I headed up his counterterrorism program and national security apparatus.

00:32:20.960 He said, Cash, we're just going to do some simple stuff.

00:32:23.640 Go kill the emirs of ISIS, wipe out al Qaeda senior leadership, bring home American hostages, end the forever wars and bring back our men and women in uniform. 0.64

00:32:32.780 You know, that's not really apolitical stuff.

00:32:35.300 And I was in the situation with President Trump when we killed Baghdadi.

00:32:38.140 It's probably one of the highlights of my career in government service, if you're allowed to say such a thing.

00:32:41.860 And I thought, wow, we just took out the world's number one terrorist.

00:32:45.920 And President Trump's first reaction was, go get me the names and numbers of the four American families whose children were butchered by this man.

00:32:55.340 That was on his mind.

00:32:56.440 That's what drove him and us to focus on the mission.

00:32:59.260 And I remember CNN the next day actually wrote an article glorifying Baghdadi as some sort of Muslim saint.

00:33:06.940 I forget the verbiage.

00:33:08.260 And that's the difference when that's just that's the difference.

00:33:11.240 When a terrorist is an actual terrorist, they'll under Trump, they'll go out of their way to redefine them.

00:33:16.620 When Americans are doing American activities and they are losing the battle, they the media, they will label us through the deep state as domestic violent extremists or terrorists.

00:33:27.800 And, you know, we can't have that.

00:33:32.140 So, you know, when we got the affidavit, it was page after page.

00:33:37.300 It was just all black, black bars, except for this page where they talk about you.

00:33:44.120 How did you feel about that when that came out?

00:33:48.260 Well, look, it's it takes me back to the days when I was the first individual subpoenaed by the January 6th committee.

00:33:54.040 And I said and I found out because The Washington Post called me in the middle of the night to say we've got information.

00:34:01.000 So you mean Adam Schiff and company leaked to you that I was subpoenaed?

00:34:04.200 You could have called me.

00:34:04.980 I think it's your duty when you're such a high level government officer to go in before Congress and testify with accountability and tell them the truth.

00:34:11.980 Now, we did that and it cost me a couple hundred thousand dollars.

00:34:15.120 But that's why they do it.

00:34:17.880 They want to make you afraid.

00:34:20.920 They want to sideline you.

00:34:22.080 They want to get you a target on your head.

00:34:24.620 You know what happened as a result of that subpoena?

00:34:26.180 The same thing that happened as a result of unmasking me in that search warrant.

00:34:29.400 I got death threats.

00:34:31.060 I got letters.

00:34:32.160 I got hate mail.

00:34:33.280 I got racist vitriol spewed my way.

00:34:35.640 And as a former prosecutor talking about the search warrant affidavit itself, there is no reason and also a violation of every rule of law we are taught at DOJ to name me and my personal information.

00:34:49.040 It added no value to that search warrant for the public to see except one.

00:34:54.300 Cash Patel is going to have a target on his head once again.

00:34:57.380 We are going to go for him.

00:34:58.800 He is going to have to win, bend the knee to our government gangster tactics.

00:35:05.960 And I'm just not going to do it.

00:35:07.440 And I've been, you know, combating that ever since.

00:35:10.180 And I'm sure it's going to take years for me to deal with it.

00:35:12.900 But that's the reason they did it.

00:35:14.200 Because I was the Russiagate guy, because I was Donald Trump's national security guy, because we had successes in both, because I was the guy that exposed the truth about January 6th when President Trump actually authorized federal military uniformed officers to come in and assist.

00:35:28.820 They keep putting a target on my head.

00:35:30.940 And I said, if I did something illegal or lied about something, you should hold me accountable 100 percent.

00:35:38.220 But you are targeting me for destroying your fake disinformation narrative that you have leapt onto the American people.

00:35:46.720 And so many people have voted because you have lied to them.

00:35:51.120 And now these people are still in positions of power.

00:35:53.880 OK, so I know this is ongoing and there's things you just can't talk about.

00:35:57.780 But but I got to ask some questions, because I honestly watching this, it was very clear.

00:36:05.700 And then you got the special master or whatever he is looking at things.

00:36:11.880 Is he a good guy, bad guy?

00:36:13.200 What is he looking at?

00:36:14.200 You were at the archives.

00:36:16.140 I have no idea what the hell this story is, how it all actually is playing.

00:36:24.240 So can I can we just take it a little piece at a time and maybe you can because if you don't understand it, people are worried about buying food and getting diapers and baby food.

00:36:36.760 They are they have no idea what this story is really all about.

00:36:41.280 And most importantly, why they should care.

00:36:45.800 So so so let's start at the beginning.

00:36:51.000 The president, not not I shouldn't say that the GAO, the government office.

00:36:56.800 OK, they came in, they scooped up all of the papers.

00:37:00.020 They put them in boxes, not at his order on.

00:37:04.340 I want this paper in this paper.

00:37:05.760 Am I correct so far?

00:37:07.900 I mean, I wasn't there for that, so I don't know.

00:37:10.340 That's what I read publicly.

00:37:11.460 OK, all right.

00:37:12.020 And so then they're shipped down to Mar-a-Lago and this happens with every president.

00:37:18.020 Every president has gone through this because it's all in his stuff and we got to sort through it.

00:37:25.080 Tell me what happens after that.

00:37:28.160 So here's.

00:37:29.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:37:30.140 The simple process, agnostic speaking for every president, when a president leaves, he maintains a legacy security clearance and he is as he should.

00:37:37.920 Obama should.

00:37:38.500 Clinton should. 0.96

00:37:39.160 Bush should.

00:37:39.700 So should Trump's uniform application of the law.

00:37:42.020 Because they are former commanders in chief who are called upon by companies, by government officials, by overseas officials for for advice and consultation because of the they are one of the only people in history of the world that ever held that position.

00:37:56.640 So once those and look, Obama, for instance, has 30 million documents still in his possession somewhere.

00:38:01.660 You know, you're the one that's what this is.

00:38:05.440 This is this has been argued every day argued all the time because you have a presidential library.

00:38:11.040 That's mainly why people will fight over it at the end.

00:38:15.120 That's why Obama, you know, I want this in my library that belong.

00:38:19.820 That's my history and belongs there, not at the National Archives.

00:38:23.140 And usually they skate.

00:38:25.480 Usually it's not a problem.

00:38:27.880 Well, you can also have guys like the guy in the Clinton administration who went into the archives and stuff things in his pants.

00:38:33.900 Sandy Berger.

00:38:35.000 And and walked out and destroyed.

00:38:37.700 So nothing happened.

00:38:38.700 Right.

00:38:38.900 And then Bill Clinton has tapes in his sock drawer, which I will actually argue that he as a president claimed those were his personal records.

00:38:46.820 He has an absolute right to have them.

00:38:48.200 And if he doesn't want to release them, it's a problem for accountability.

00:38:51.340 But it's not illegal.

00:38:52.800 You know, you know, and that's where people get confused.

00:38:55.120 They're like, because no one ever pays attention to this boring book moving stuff.

00:38:58.820 Right.

00:38:58.940 We're moving papers at the end of the administration.

00:39:01.080 Who cares?

00:39:01.980 Well, they care when it's Donald Trump.

00:39:03.680 Right.

00:39:03.860 When it was Hillary Clinton who literally and by James Comey's own statement, actually moved classified information over 100 times in a sequence, but got a hall pass because he said she was reckless.

00:39:17.760 He, by the way, James Comey, hijacked the decision from the DOJ.

00:39:20.840 I was a national security prosecutor there at the time.

00:39:22.560 I was infuriated at that and broke the law in doing so.

00:39:25.840 And so what this is all about to me is basically teaching the American people about a uniform application of justice and not a two-tier system of justice.

00:39:37.740 And this is the ultimate example.

00:39:39.360 And if President Trump doesn't fight this, then they're never going to learn it.

00:39:42.760 Whether documents were classified or not and what was is a side question to the ultimate rule of law and the commander in chief sitting atop the executive branch is the sole arbiter of classification.

00:39:58.720 That's it.

00:39:59.520 That's the law.

00:40:00.480 That's the thing Americans need to understand.

00:40:02.320 When President Obama went out and told the world that we had killed Osama bin Laden, and rightfully so, not only did we do it, but he told the world, he wasn't back there saying, OK, let's run this rigorous process of declassification so I can go tell the world. 0.51

00:40:18.380 He said, I'm going out there and saying it because I'm the president of the United States.

00:40:22.420 I have the authority to do it.

00:40:24.000 Why is it any different now?

00:40:25.660 So, in that famous picture of all the documents laid out, I actually heard CNN, and I think this is revisionist history because I think it was the first announced that they were showing them.

00:40:38.580 But now it is, look at how unsecure these are.

00:40:41.400 This is how these documents were found, all spread out on the floor like that.

00:40:47.040 Is that how they were kept?

00:40:49.100 I mean, so, you know, what I've said publicly is I learned that there were documents at Mar-a-Lago when the world found out there were documents at Mar-a-Lago.

00:40:57.480 So, you know, I can't testify that they were kept that way.

00:41:02.620 Having been around President Trump, I don't think he would just have them scattered around in perfect position for pictures to be taken.

00:41:09.960 And, you know, if I could borrow from my friend, John Ratcliffe, the former DNI, you know, great American, he said, you know, those are government cover sheets that say top secret on them.

00:41:21.480 Those aren't classified in and of themselves.

00:41:24.200 Also, just because documents have classification markings on them doesn't mean they're still classified.

00:41:30.680 All documents that were once classified.

00:41:33.180 Say that.

00:41:33.800 And declassified later have classification markings on them.

00:41:36.700 I know.

00:41:37.000 I have stuff from World War II that clearly marked top secret.

00:41:40.640 I've got the landing charts for D-Day all marked top secret eyes only.

00:41:48.820 You know, I think it's OK.

00:41:52.060 OK, so you at one point were asked with John Solomon to go to the National Archives.

00:41:59.280 It's my understanding that the National Archives, if you are the head of the National Archives, that's not a political position.

00:42:08.840 You are the archivist.

00:42:11.260 So without passion, you preserve history.

00:42:17.020 Correct.

00:42:18.500 That's what it's supposed to be.

00:42:19.160 You're the librarian.

00:42:20.040 Yeah.

00:42:20.380 You're the librarian.

00:42:20.900 You're a librarian.

00:42:21.800 Right.

00:42:22.040 But it was the National Archives that reached out, the head of the National Archives, that reached out to the FBI, which is unusual.

00:42:33.140 Usually they just if they have a problem with the president, usually just go right to the president.

00:42:36.760 Can you speak at all to what what happened with the you know, we were sending them the stuff they asked for.

00:42:46.760 And now all of a sudden, you know, we have to get out of the house and they've got a SWAT team at the house.

00:42:53.360 Yeah.

00:42:53.540 All I know is what I could what's been publicly reported that the archive is for some reason made that referral that you said about Trump.

00:42:59.780 But the same archivist didn't make that referral about Hillary Clinton.

00:43:03.740 And so, again, the two tier system of justice.

00:43:07.920 And I look, yeah, it is 100 percent true.

00:43:11.000 The president earlier this year named John Solomon, me his representatives, formal representatives for the National Archives, which a president's allowed to do to start culling through the paperwork.

00:43:19.580 And as you said, essentially building his library and, you know, putting out documentation for the American public.

00:43:25.080 The fact remains, they've never let me go down there, nor has John Solomon been able to go down there.

00:43:30.500 And they won't let a member of the press and somebody appointed by a former president go in and see the documents from the White House.

00:43:43.640 As represented, John's a representative, too.

00:43:46.060 They won't let us there.

00:43:47.020 They won't let us in.

00:43:47.720 We've been trying to do it the right way for months and communicating that with them formally and asking them nicely.

00:43:56.320 And, you know, some of these details will probably intertwine into the ongoing stuff.

00:44:00.700 So I won't get into them.

00:44:01.580 But basically, we've gotten the Heisman and we've said, you know, with cute government language and a new excuse every day once we overcome the previous excuse.

00:44:11.640 And the sole purpose of us going down there was to go and identify documents that should be made public for the American people, which, you know, that's that's not criminal.

00:44:22.920 But of course, it is if you're doing it on behalf of Donald Trump.

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00:45:44.820 Trump did declassify one of his last things.

00:45:48.220 Declassify all of the stuff on Russiagate and all that crap.

00:45:53.240 But it didn't come out.

00:45:55.900 Is that what he is thinking?

00:45:59.420 Is it the archives or is that what he had?

00:46:02.520 Do we know?

00:46:04.140 I don't know.

00:46:05.120 I wasn't there mechanically at the end of the administration or had any knowledge that these documents were there.

00:46:12.000 But I mean, the things that he wants to make public, is that what you're that?

00:46:19.940 That's obviously what you guys were tasked to go find.

00:46:24.020 And did were those documents made public at any time?

00:46:29.020 Are there more things, other shoes to drop that, again, the deep state is standing in the way?

00:46:35.180 Oh, I see.

00:46:35.720 I see.

00:46:36.020 Sorry.

00:46:36.400 I misunderstood.

00:46:37.280 So let me let me give it to you this way.

00:46:39.280 So when Devin Nunes and I did Russiagate, we uncovered a swath of documents that we wanted out there for the public to see.

00:46:46.020 And we have always said over the years, we only got out about 60 percent of the documents.

00:46:50.860 So why weren't the rest ever turned over?

00:46:52.800 Because they were blockaded, obfuscated and deflected by the deep state.

00:46:58.560 And even a lot of President Trump's appointees were involved in the process of blocking him because it exposed more government corruption.

00:47:05.800 So I believe those documents exist because I at one point in my tenure in Congress had seen them and and we had been seeking their public dissemination lawfully ever since.

00:47:20.120 That is Devin and I.

00:47:20.780 So I think that's what President Trump was going after.

00:47:24.960 And and I've said in the you know, in the media in the past that, you know, President Trump was one of the most, you know, transparent presidents in U.S. history.

00:47:34.620 And, you know, it's no secret that he issued even a tweet, I think, in October of 2020, where he said every Russiagate document and every Hillary Clinton email document is hereby declassified.

00:47:44.520 Why they weren't put out, that answer lies with the deep state.

00:47:52.140 So, hypothetically speaking, Donald Trump runs.

00:47:56.600 He becomes president of the United States again.

00:47:59.720 I've asked him this question.

00:48:03.320 Are you able to do it?

00:48:05.180 I mean, the entire system is set up to thwart you or anybody like you.

00:48:12.560 And he said, I can't do it with the same Republicans I had last time.

00:48:18.460 That's what he told me.

00:48:20.960 Can he can one man in four years even make a real dent in this?

00:48:31.500 Probably not.

00:48:32.540 Most men him.

00:48:33.780 Yes, because I think he learned, you know, one of the most important lessons during his first term.

00:48:40.380 That even though you should be able to trust government officials, especially high level career officials, you no longer can because they are the deep state.

00:48:50.860 And we have to bring in.

00:48:52.240 And I think that's why he's so tirelessly campaigning for a change in the representation in Congress and the Senate come this November.

00:48:58.440 Because that's part and parcel of him accomplishing his America first agenda should he decide to run and win again.

00:49:05.100 The second thing that has to happen is not just Congress.

00:49:09.500 You have to appoint people not just to the cabinet secretary level positions, but the chiefs of staff, the deputies, the undersecretaries and so forth.

00:49:18.620 At Treasury, at State, at DOD, at CIA and NSA, all of these people have to be appointed after a careful selection process, not to be loyal to the president.

00:49:28.340 People always, you know, conflate these two things.

00:49:31.900 But to be loyal to the job that the commander in chief has lawfully outlined you to do, which is follow the rule of law and his duly elected capacity as president and carry out the border enforcement mission, the countering narcotics mission, the overseas mission on taking on Russia and China and Iran and things like that.

00:49:51.760 So we can, you know, we can go on for days about individuals that intervened in that process because they thought they stood above the president.

00:50:01.100 And of course, the media lauded them for it.

00:50:03.280 And then you've got to restore the heart of it all is you have got to go in there and clean house at DOJ and FBI and prosecute those in the positions of power that broke the law.

00:50:14.360 I think it's possible.

00:50:15.560 I know it's a long shot and Vegas probably isn't taking those odds, but I do think it's doable.

00:50:21.760 I watch this and I have been in situations myself where my wife has said, good God, we're living like a mini Jason Bourne movie here because this stuff is it's real.

00:50:36.100 It's bizarre when you see it yourself.

00:50:39.780 It's bizarre.

00:50:40.980 You only see it in movies.

00:50:42.120 But there is so much money, so much power and so many people that are exposed.

00:50:51.440 How do you lived through that?

00:50:55.000 And I mean, actually, how do you how does Trump how to other people who are fighting?

00:50:59.940 How are they not just liquidated in some accident or whatever that we've seen in movies?

00:51:09.840 Or is that just the movie?

00:51:13.080 You know, hopefully it's just the movie because I don't want to be liquidated.

00:51:16.100 Yeah, I don't either.

00:51:16.920 President Trump does either.

00:51:17.720 And I don't think you do either.

00:51:18.980 You know, I think what we find and I'm not going to speak for you, but I know what I find when I go around the country and as you often do at speaking engagements, you see the change in the American dynamic about the people that are there and the things that they are saying and talking about.

00:51:36.580 And I think our messaging campaign is finally getting through to them in terms of educating not just the youth, but the adults.

00:51:42.420 And that energizes me when I go to Arizona or Nevada or Florida or California or wherever and I see these people and they come up to me and say, I don't it's not that you need their thanks and they're not giving it insincerely, but they tell you specifically why.

00:52:00.300 And they tell me it's because you and Trump and so and so did X for our community or did Y for the military or helped bring this hostage home to our state after she was gone for five years.

00:52:14.200 Things like that, I think they're tuning into more because they've learned a lot of these Americans that they've been bamboozled by the disinformation campaigns of the fake news mafia and they need to be more involved.

00:52:25.700 So I think why we don't stop is just that because if we stop, who's going, at least for President Trump's perspective, who's going to come in and fill that seat?

00:52:41.260 I'm just trying to think about making sure that I've covered everything I wanted to cover on the on the Mar-a-Lago thing.

00:52:52.120 And I guess, I mean, I, I need you to explain to the American people why this happening to Donald Trump or how it affects them that I don't care who you voted for.

00:53:11.720 This is a big deal.

00:53:12.980 And this is the way, this is the time I sort of tell you if the shoe were on the other foot analogy, right?

00:53:20.080 And it's a little colloquial, but it's about as easy a way to break it down as you possibly can.

00:53:25.580 What if Donald Trump were Joe Biden and Joe Biden were Donald Trump and you applied the same sets of facts to these situations or better yet, Barack Obama?

00:53:35.140 What if the FBI raided Barack Obama's home in Chicago, ransacked it and turned it upside down after getting a search warrant against a former president of the United States for supposedly having classified information?

00:53:50.300 These same people that are excoriating President Trump would be out there excoriating the FBI and DOJ for these actions.

00:53:59.340 And in order to change that and defeat the two tier system of justice, you have to level that field.

00:54:06.920 And that's why people need to care, because if you don't want it to happen to you in your own homes and you don't want it to happen to your brothers and your sisters and your moms and your dads because they are America first people or because they support Donald Trump.

00:54:20.720 Make no mistake, that's who they're targeting and until you fix it, they're going to continue to target you.

00:54:28.000 And that is why I think Americans do care.

00:54:30.560 But that is also why I think more Americans need to care together.

00:54:34.900 Have you heard the term glowy?

00:54:37.980 I don't know.

00:54:39.360 I know we talk about glowing poo in my new book, but other than that, no.

00:54:43.680 Now, Glowy, I guess, is a government agent or informant infiltrating, often right-leaning political space with a supposed intention of surveilling violent extremists provoking entrapment.

00:55:00.860 I guess this is.

00:55:01.860 Yeah, so go ahead.

00:55:03.120 That's just a confidential informant, you know, and this takes me back to January 6th.

00:55:07.680 How is it that a person like Ray Epps and company were on the FBI's most wanted list on day one and removed on day two for the incidents of January 6th and all the videotapes that we've seen about him?

00:55:25.140 And then the head of the FBI counterintelligence division goes before Congress and is asked by one of the senators, is Ray Epps a government informant, an undercover operative?

00:55:35.760 She doesn't say no.

00:55:38.660 She doesn't say that would never happen.

00:55:42.120 She says, I am unable to answer that at this time.

00:55:45.620 You have your answer.

00:55:47.560 So what do you want to call them, Glowy's or government informants? 0.96

00:55:50.400 They do use them.

00:55:51.720 They use them in the Whitmer prosecution, which resulted in a hung jury and acquittal for half the defendants up there.

00:55:58.180 So they are being used, I think, to target political operations.

00:56:02.880 And it's another constitutional oversight rule that Congress has to get the documentation out for, especially on January 6th and the likes of Ray Epps to see who in the FBI knew and who ordered it and why they covered it up.

00:56:17.620 Let me ask you some questions and just tell me the biggest lesson you learned or the the the the shock that you just did not expect in each of these categories.

00:56:32.260 One, the media.

00:56:34.240 The hate, the the the outright hateful lying when from the time from when I was a congressional staffer through my tenure in the Trump administration to now, I thought and knew the media could be dirty, but I did not know they could be so hateful and vindictive and vengeful and would lie about it just to get their way.

00:56:58.100 So, um, big tech.

00:57:03.840 The biggest corruptors in the United States of America and the world.

00:57:08.520 How do you mean?

00:57:09.080 Fake book, Twitter.

00:57:11.140 Let's go with the U.S. first, Facebook, Twitter and whatnot.

00:57:13.520 We've now found out, no surprise, as Devin and I started to unveil way back when that Facebook had been approached by the FBI to assist in disinformation operations, especially when it came to the Hunter Biden laptop and that Mark Zuckerberg spent four hundred million dollars in an election cycle for what we don't exactly know yet.

00:57:34.020 And so when you have a company of that size and you carry yourself out to be a pro-American company, welcoming of all people and you perform those activities, then you censor freedom of speech.

00:57:47.560 Those are the biggest threats to American democracy because they are the ones that get the message out more than anyone else.

00:57:54.740 Now, when you switch to overseas, look at what China has done with big tech.

00:58:01.220 You know, we took on TikTok for a reason and shut them down.

00:58:03.460 It's now been proven that the reason we shut them down was because they were selling your information to the Chinese Communist Party so they could target Americans.

00:58:14.480 This is what big tech is allowed to do.

00:58:16.580 Could you explain explain that?

00:58:18.720 I I say this to my family that's always on TikTok and I'm like, you're out of your mind.

00:58:25.260 What are you doing?

00:58:27.540 Oh, it's not going to affect me.

00:58:29.980 Could you just explain what you just said?

00:58:32.000 Yeah, look, and I'll speak to it for my role as the deputy director of national intelligence.

00:58:37.540 China and Russia are always looking to get our stuff, our intelligence, our personal information.

00:58:44.520 The average person.

00:58:46.260 The average person.

00:58:47.380 TikTok is because you can't target from a micro perspective.

00:58:51.400 If you're an adversary to the United States, you target from a macro perspective and you hoover up as much info as you can.

00:58:58.240 And then you have a zillion analysts at home sifting through it.

00:59:00.600 TikTok's the perfect example.

00:59:02.400 TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, had it was a Chinese backed company.

00:59:07.960 So what did they do?

00:59:09.120 They essentially allowed that company and we caught them to to just shuffle information of your kids, of your brothers, of your sisters, whoever was on TikTok in America over to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:59:22.620 And yeah, maybe they're right.

00:59:24.960 And they're like, they're never going to use it against us.

00:59:26.900 But they're using against us writ large.

00:59:29.700 They are making money and stealing our information and you are giving it to them.

00:59:34.640 And if it doesn't directly impact you, it will impact your neighbor or someone, you know.

00:59:39.420 And if you think like the Chinese who always think years in advance, that child grows up to be the president of the United States. 1.00

00:59:51.860 They have exact they know that child inside and out when they become the president.

00:59:58.260 And it's not just the publicly available stuff.

01:00:00.520 It's their private information.

01:00:01.920 Correct.

01:00:02.260 That's the most consequential.

01:00:05.000 Well, like what private information?

01:00:08.680 Like not the videos you're posting, but yeah, right.

01:00:11.540 But what you're doing, your your your phone number, your email, because people don't really change those.

01:00:18.520 And once you have that, we used to call them government selectors.

01:00:22.580 You can trail these people outside of TikTok and wherever they go.

01:00:28.200 You make a purchase on whatever dot com.

01:00:30.900 You go and sign up for platform A or app B and you use this phone number.

01:00:35.880 Guess what?

01:00:36.460 The Chinese Communist Party and the Russians know who you are from your association with TikTok and take all that information and make a profile of you.

01:00:45.460 And when you're a grown up and you're in a position of leadership, they will use it to damage this country.

01:00:51.700 Let's say you're talking to a Democrat right now, voted Democrat their whole life.

01:00:56.580 They're not overly political and they're they're not a Marxist.

01:01:03.100 OK, but they watch the news.

01:01:05.400 They follow and they don't like Donald Trump.

01:01:07.840 And they think that, you know, some people are very extreme on the right.

01:01:14.220 What do you say to that person to open their eyes from you based on your experience of what you've seen?

01:01:22.740 I would ask them to give me their biggest example of why they believe that to be the case.

01:01:29.760 And what's likely to come out of their mouth is something associated with Russiagate, something to do with January 6th, something to do with the impeachment one or two or something maybe to do with Mar-a-Lago.

01:01:41.580 And then if they're willing to have a conversation, you know, you walk them through the facts and you say, OK, you said this was a lawful operation to take on and spy on a presidential president of the United States.

01:01:53.940 Well, the facts that are borne out through an independent review, inspector general's report, have revoked those warrants.

01:02:01.200 The FBI has admitted they lied and they got caught and people were fired.

01:02:06.000 And John Durham is prosecuting some of them.

01:02:07.880 Those are unassailable facts.

01:02:09.120 Now, they might not want to listen to them, but I'm willing to have those conversations, be it Russiagate or January 6th in the National Guard and troop deployments and how we had it right.

01:02:17.400 And Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser blocked us from protecting the Capitol.

01:02:21.520 And all those facts have come out.

01:02:24.220 Just they don't get them because they're listening to the disinformation campaigns and the fake news.

01:02:31.160 When you were doing all of the Russiagate investigation, we were doing a parallel investigation here.

01:02:37.040 And I entered it with an open mind.

01:02:39.860 I don't think Donald Trump did this, but if he did, he should go to jail.

01:02:44.720 He should not be the president of the United States.

01:02:48.080 What I found was this.

01:02:51.780 Again, it was almost like when it comes to the the democratic world.

01:02:57.000 The polar point that the world spins around seems to be Ukraine. 0.88

01:03:05.500 When you started going into all of the impeachment.

01:03:11.100 Talk to me about that.

01:03:13.380 What what shocked you?

01:03:15.960 What did you what should people know?

01:03:18.540 And what does that feel like?

01:03:20.600 Well, it's pretty brutal to have your name falsely thrust into a presidential impeachment in the United States of America.

01:03:31.160 And let's let's unpack that.

01:03:33.080 What happened?

01:03:33.860 You have a whistleblower and Eric Chiaramella and his buddy Vindman who comes in and makes up a complete falsehood.

01:03:41.700 So that they can then go into Congress and say, we're whistleblowers, make sure nothing happens to us.

01:03:47.700 President Trump is making side deals and quid pro quos and criminal activity with the Ukrainians. 0.98

01:03:53.060 Then you bring in Fiona Hill, the lady who I say basically is the epicenter of Russiagate, because she not only hired Igor Danchenkov and introduced Christopher Steele to the DOJ.

01:04:05.720 And we can get into all that later.

01:04:07.700 But she goes out there and says to the effect, I'm quoting, you know, Kash Patel had these private meetings with President Trump on the Ukraine.

01:04:16.500 Who she had had to admit to the world under oath during the testimony that she had never met me.

01:04:25.480 She had never spoken to me and she could not identify what meeting she was talking about because she wasn't in it because it never took place, nor did she know anyone that was in it.

01:04:36.180 So when you get thrust into something like that, and I have ongoing defamation suits as a result of that against New York Times, Politico and CNN, because now half the world or more of it thinks I'm some sort of guy that was conspiring with Donald Trump to commit treasonous criminal activity with the Ukraine.

01:04:56.380 And then once we debunked that, the Democrats and the radical left went on to their next iteration of whatever they were going to do, which was January 6th.

01:05:06.280 And, you know, again, I found myself in the hot seat just because I was chief of staff of the DOD then.

01:05:12.340 And similarly, I said, well, let's challenge your narrative with the facts.

01:05:17.000 And they never want to have that conversation.

01:05:21.360 Hostage negotiations with some of the worst countries in the world.

01:05:25.440 What is that like?

01:05:27.780 You know, it's it's some of the most gut wrenching and some of the most rewarding work I've ever I'll ever do.

01:05:33.060 President Trump brought home 54 American hostages.

01:05:36.640 You don't hear that.

01:05:38.320 You just don't.

01:05:39.060 That's more than that's more than every president before him combined.

01:05:43.660 What I tell audiences.

01:05:45.880 Think about if you're if someone in your community, let alone your brother or sister, was taken, they were gone for two, three, four or five years.

01:05:51.860 Would you want them to do everything they could?

01:05:53.860 And that's what we did.

01:05:54.880 He said, go bring them home, bring them home from Iran, bring them home from North Korea, bring them home from Turkey, bring them home from Afghanistan, bring them home from Syria. 0.68

01:06:03.380 I was the first government official in a decade to go into downtown Damascus and meet with Bashar al-Assad's number one guy and demand the release of Austin Tyson, other American hostages.

01:06:13.280 Because I promised his mother.

01:06:14.280 And that was a multi-year process in the making just to do it.

01:06:19.500 And right before I left, they said, are you sure you want to go?

01:06:22.660 It's Syria. 0.72

01:06:23.500 You don't have to go.

01:06:25.600 And I said, not going is failing the mission you signed up for.

01:06:30.020 If something happens to me, so be it.

01:06:32.200 But the mission is bringing home Americans. 0.94

01:06:34.620 Now, we didn't bring home Austin Tice, tragically, and I don't know the status of that situation.

01:06:40.080 But, you know, I've wept with these families, you know, Kayla Mueller's family, the Sotloffs, the Foley's, the Kassigs.

01:06:45.640 We never got their kids home.

01:06:47.520 But we got them a little bit of justice when we took out Baghdadi. 0.66

01:06:50.620 And the president and his team named that Operation 8-14, which was Kayla Mueller's birthday.

01:06:56.620 And if you watch that portion of the State of the Union, it's very hard to stay dry-eyed.

01:07:05.000 We I think we have political prisoners here in the United States.

01:07:10.440 January 6th.

01:07:11.740 I can't get information about them.

01:07:14.440 I I have no idea how long anybody has been in.

01:07:20.360 I know some are still being held.

01:07:22.280 They haven't had a trial.

01:07:23.300 It's we're approaching two years.

01:07:28.480 What.

01:07:30.540 Is the solution there?

01:07:35.420 You know, having done that work extensively as a public defender and prosecutor, we are basically living in a modern day political.

01:07:46.460 Criminal organization.

01:07:47.300 I have never heard of individuals who are over the age of 60 with little or no criminal record, being charged with misdemeanors or low level felonies, being detained, no bond in the United States of America.

01:08:00.040 And I handled thousands of these cases.

01:08:02.600 And it didn't happen to one person.

01:08:03.940 It happened to dozens and scores of them.

01:08:05.620 And unfortunately, we haven't seen any courageous judiciary officers, judges come in and take these cases on and say, what are you doing, DOJ and FBI?

01:08:16.000 And the only way to fix it is and I'm afraid it's going to be too far down the road is because until you change the DOJ and FBI, because they're in charge, they're bringing the prosecutions.

01:08:27.600 There's nothing to shut them down.

01:08:29.200 There's nothing to turn them off.

01:08:30.340 And what people are doing in these dreadful situations is being forced to take plea agreements just to get out, just to say, end it.

01:08:39.540 That's not due process.

01:08:40.920 That's the bastardization of due process.

01:08:42.900 That's what they do in third world republics. 0.98

01:08:44.880 We're going to throw you in a cell until you say you did it or did something so we can have our scalp. 0.99

01:08:50.720 And, you know, tragically, Glenn, I don't have an immediate solution.

01:08:54.260 A part time solution is when the gavel switch, you force the FBI and DOJ to put out the documentation substantiating these detentions.

01:09:03.560 But more importantly, you force them to disclose the information on what government operatives were involved.

01:09:08.940 And if people were entrapped, that is a violation of the law.

01:09:12.460 And then you have to go after those guys.

01:09:15.620 Well, I would hope that that would happen, but I won't hold my breath for it.

01:09:20.260 But that has to happen.

01:09:21.380 If people don't start paying a price, we're done as a we're done as a nation.

01:09:26.560 And I mean, we are very close to that edge.

01:09:29.860 So with all of the things that you've done, the roles that you have played.

01:09:40.160 You leave office and you begin to write children's books.

01:09:45.660 I think I know what your answer is going to be, but why?

01:09:55.840 And look, honestly, I never thought I'd be a writer, a children's book author or anything.

01:10:02.200 But you leave and you try to find a purpose because you want to continue the mission in some way.

01:10:08.580 And my publicist came to me and said, look, you're the Russiagate guy.

01:10:12.200 Let's teach this to kids.

01:10:13.320 And I was like, you're crazy.

01:10:14.820 What are you talking about?

01:10:16.540 That sounds crazy.

01:10:17.560 And then I was like, hang on.

01:10:18.820 Let's check what's happening.

01:10:20.840 Why are kids being force fed CRT and gender dynamics? 0.76

01:10:24.920 Why can't we teach them history apolitically?

01:10:27.540 So we did The Plot Against the King, which is available at plotagainsttheking.com.

01:10:32.940 And it became a number one bestseller because here's what we did in that book.

01:10:36.360 And adults have liked it as much as children.

01:10:39.160 We said, you know what's important?

01:10:41.060 Truth, service, and mission.

01:10:43.540 And if we can take it and sort of make it a fairy tale.

01:10:47.340 We said in Medieval Times, we have Hillary Quinton and Keeper Comey and A Shifty Knight.

01:10:51.240 We're taken in a quest for the truth by Duke Devin and his sidekick, Wizard Cash.

01:10:58.720 And we had fun with it.

01:10:59.840 But we don't say be conservative or be Republican or be Democrat or liberal.

01:11:03.080 We say the truth matters.

01:11:04.900 Do the right thing.

01:11:05.880 And when your government breaks that trust and truth, it's up to you, the kids, the citizens,

01:11:11.460 to become adults and blockade it and correct the wrong.

01:11:15.620 And then we thought it would be a one-off.

01:11:18.220 And it turned out it's now going to be a trilogy because there was so much demand in a vacuum

01:11:24.140 of what I feel is the education space and even the adult space to a certain degree.

01:11:28.480 We just debuted the plot against the king, 2,000 mules.

01:11:32.480 In collaboration with Dinesh D'Souza, we took the two-third rails that the American media

01:11:38.220 can't stand, Russiagate, and election integrity.

01:11:41.220 And we're teaching it to our youth and our adults.

01:11:43.660 And they have lost it.

01:11:45.020 We have been getting hit piece after hit piece, which means we're over the target.

01:11:47.760 And I'm not saying in the plot against the king, 2,000 mules, that this was election theft

01:11:53.900 and that occurred.

01:11:54.760 I'm saying the election was rigged.

01:11:57.300 Hunter Biden laptop disinformation story happened.

01:11:59.860 Now, that's the adult version.

01:12:01.820 What I'm telling the children in that is if the numbers don't add up, if more people voted

01:12:07.000 than humans exist, isn't that a problem?

01:12:10.740 And it's a threat to our democracy.

01:12:12.480 So how do we fix it?

01:12:13.740 We have to ensure the integrity of our elections.

01:12:16.020 And there are people in the kingdom, as we say, like yourselves, that can grow up to

01:12:20.900 do that work.

01:12:22.160 And so that's what we're teaching them in the Plot Against the King trilogy.

01:12:24.760 And if it wasn't cool enough, we had the country music legend, the legend, John Rich, make a

01:12:29.080 song for our trilogy called The Plot Against the King.

01:12:32.200 And that's out there on Truth Social.

01:12:34.220 And you can get everything at plotagainsttheking.com.

01:12:36.560 It's now become my passion project outside my foundation, where we help veterans and kids

01:12:43.280 and folks have been to fame.

01:12:45.680 This has been my passion project.

01:12:47.280 Who would have thought, Glenn Beck, that I would be sitting here talking about education,

01:12:52.120 never having held an education post in my entire government career.

01:12:56.260 Well, you know, you've quoted many times, maybe unbeknownst, but I doubt it, the Eisenhower

01:13:04.980 farewell speech.

01:13:06.760 But the one thing that you didn't talk about was the educational complex.

01:13:10.460 It is just as bad.

01:13:12.420 And he warned about it.

01:13:13.600 He said, military, industrial, then the educational, and then the science.

01:13:21.240 All three of those things, you know, it's now the science, the educational complex.

01:13:28.820 They all have to be examined and shut down.

01:13:32.880 They all have to be shut down.

01:13:34.760 The government should not be in business with these people.

01:13:38.440 So I'm glad you're you're helping with kids because that is the future.

01:13:43.300 One last thing.

01:13:44.700 All the things you've seen.

01:13:45.940 Um, let's say you're not a fairy tale writer and you are, you are being asked to predict

01:13:57.920 how does this end or what does the next five years look like?

01:14:04.460 What would you say?

01:14:07.260 It's going to be a tough, tough sledding.

01:14:09.680 And what I mean by that is, you know, I think we have some relief coming in the midterms

01:14:14.220 with hopeful constitutional oversight and probably need something like the akin of a church like

01:14:19.000 commission to reform the FBI and DOJ from the inside and out.

01:14:22.560 And that's that's going to be a slow build and a slow process that we need accountability

01:14:26.080 in the form of government corruption exposed for the American people to see.

01:14:29.920 That's going to be another lift that the Congress has to take when the Republicans are in the

01:14:33.740 majority.

01:14:34.120 And the ultimate fixes to the deep state, to the corrupt government gangsters, be it

01:14:39.160 the likes of General Milley at, uh, as a chairman who unlawfully enters the chain of command

01:14:44.360 and destroys the general officer community by putting politicians in their way and then

01:14:50.400 thumps his chest by drone striking children in Afghanistan after 13 of our service members

01:14:55.620 were killed.

01:14:56.480 Those individuals have to be eliminated from government service forever.

01:15:02.420 And their progeny has also to go.

01:15:05.540 Their mentees, I should say, have also got to go.

01:15:08.240 You know, we didn't talk about the Afghan withdrawal, but it's one of the things I'm 0.95

01:15:12.320 most proud of.

01:15:13.240 And I think it's a good place to end.

01:15:15.400 When we were asked to withdraw, we said, we'll do it methodically.

01:15:18.300 We'll do it based on the evidence.

01:15:20.300 And we're never going to leave Americans behind.

01:15:22.500 And the proudest thing we were accomplished was not one American soldier lost their life during

01:15:27.140 our withdrawal under President Trump.

01:15:28.620 And then fast forward to Biden and 13 were killed by a suicide bomber that he, Joe Biden,

01:15:34.640 let out of Bagram when he gave up that Air Force Base, American Air Force Base.

01:15:38.740 And the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, Glenn, is stand on the flight line at Dover

01:15:43.380 Air Force Base and do a dignified transfer until the families of the fallen that their sons and

01:15:47.820 daughters are never coming home. 1.00

01:15:49.440 And we're going to carry your caskets to the resting place.

01:15:51.800 So I say that in the end, because that's the thing that drives me the most.

01:15:58.220 And I hope that Americans can take that and say, how do I apply that to my life, whether

01:16:02.720 it's education, science or service or what have you?

01:16:05.440 And you can, because if you teach our youth and adults to go forward with that in their

01:16:11.140 hearts, then I think the American cycle can be complete and we can restore this country

01:16:17.000 back to what it was.

01:16:18.180 But it's a multi-year fight and you're in it, you know, gosh, you've been in it longer

01:16:23.080 than most I know.

01:16:24.400 And you're one of the greatest warriors we have.

01:16:26.700 So it's, you know, it's been a true honor to be on your show.

01:16:29.720 Thank you for letting me spend some time with you.

01:16:32.800 I know this would, you know, a professional wouldn't do it, but I've already been inducted

01:16:37.400 into the Hall of Fame, so I don't really care anymore.

01:16:40.540 Let me ask you just one more question, because you sparked something in me as you were talking.

01:16:45.780 Donald Trump, I think, reads dictators very well.

01:16:56.260 And people think he's either crazy because he's too strong or he loves them because he's

01:17:02.260 nice.

01:17:02.760 I think Donald Trump is probably the shrewdest negotiator when it comes to guys like that.

01:17:15.040 I think they fear him because maybe they think he's got a twitchy eye and this guy's not like

01:17:24.100 the rest.

01:17:24.920 He just might do it.

01:17:26.300 Did you ever witness anything like this that you could talk about?

01:17:32.160 Many times.

01:17:33.100 Let's just put it in the context of China, Russia, and North Korea.

01:17:39.260 Kim Jong-un and his rockets basically came to a halt in terms of test flights in the Sea

01:17:43.940 of Japan, which were a threat not just to Japan, but American interests around the world if

01:17:47.540 that madman launched a nuclear weapon.

01:17:49.200 China and the CCP and Xi Jinping never threatened to invade Taiwan and upend diplomacy there or

01:17:58.500 rock the boat too much in the South China Sea.

01:18:01.800 And Vladimir Putin didn't invade the Ukraine during President Trump's watch or even threaten

01:18:06.280 it.

01:18:07.440 Those aren't three geopolitical coincidences.

01:18:11.080 Those are three examples of America with a leader on the global stage that our foreign

01:18:19.660 adversaries and allies respect and somewhat fear.

01:18:24.200 And whether it's the twitchy eye or the swift actions, what I can tell you is being in the

01:18:29.520 Oval Office, the Air Force One, the Marine One with the President, President Trump, is that

01:18:33.860 he was never one to shy away from swift action to protect American, American interests.

01:18:40.720 And that is the message he relayed to every foreign ally and adversary.

01:18:46.820 And we don't have that anymore from this White House, tragically.

01:18:49.820 And I'm rooting for him.

01:18:50.880 I want this White House to stand up and take on our world adversaries because America is

01:18:56.900 hurting.

01:18:57.560 People think that I have the wrong message, that I'm just a hater of Joe Biden.

01:19:01.020 I'm cheering for his national security success because it is America's success.

01:19:05.780 But it's not coming, unfortunately.

01:19:08.560 Cash, thank you.

01:19:09.640 We'll talk again.

01:19:11.080 Thanks so much.

01:19:11.700 You bet.

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01:19:23.160 so it can be discovered by other people.

01:19:25.480 We'll be right back.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 24, 2022

Ep 155 ｜ Deep State EXPOSED： Trump's 'Mar-a-Lago Point Man' on TRUTH of Raid ｜ Kash Patel ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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