The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 162 ｜ Epstein's SHOCKING connections to intelligence agencies

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00:00:48.860 a campaign of lies can hide anything and with the magic of disinformation mysterious deaths can be

00:00:58.840 quickly brushed off as suicides even when all of the details don't add up and there's so many stories

00:01:05.340 now that just don't add up public assassinations can happen right in front of you and you'll never know

00:01:12.500 who was really behind it or why as long as the powers that be push a great narrative the same lie over

00:01:19.760 and over and over again jeffrey epstein infiltrated the highest ranks of every sector of power you are

00:01:28.800 going to learn a lot about the world today he was into law enforcement art wall street silicon valley

00:01:37.380 big business real estate philanthropy media academics and banking he even wormed his way into high fashion

00:01:45.800 he hung out with noble prize winning scientists and billionaire arms dealers movie directors famous

00:01:51.180 actors journalists and lots of politicians including heads of state not just here in america and he has a

00:01:59.140 very special bond with bill and hillary clinton we still don't know who took part in his many crimes

00:02:07.340 and they are vast this is nothing short of political terrorism theater facilitated by the media

00:02:15.100 today's guest as you will hear i just finished it and you will hear halfway through i say maybe it's halfway

00:02:27.880 through i said i think this is the most important hour i have ever been a part of in broadcast

00:02:36.420 i've done this for 45 years this is the most important person and hour you can you can spend

00:02:47.020 today's guest has a gift for locating power and hunting it in its darkest corners she realized that

00:02:55.860 epstein was not an anomaly an anomaly an anomaly she is somebody who has written two volumes

00:03:02.600 on just him but you will see it is connected to entire networks of power and influence a web of elites who

00:03:11.500 operate under the principle that rules are for other people her two-volume book one nation under blackmail

00:03:18.720 the sordid union between intelligence and crime that gave rise to jeffrey epstein is out keep your eye

00:03:26.780 on this one she is sharp she is a massive threat to powerful people if people will listen and do their own

00:03:37.100 homework and just explore what she's saying the game is up she's the kind of writer who reminds the elites

00:03:48.320 that they're not actually above rules and we're not all a bunch of rubes please welcome whitney webb

00:03:57.220 welcome i am a huge fan of your work um uh you have covered

00:04:17.420 some of the most important stories i think um in my lifetime thank you and you are so clear

00:04:28.280 on all of them and most of these stories are the ones you can't get answers on they're they're all the

00:04:34.960 stories that the big and powerful want to hide want you to not see what's really going on and it's

00:04:42.940 it's so frustrating because it's clear that these things are happening and should be discussed

00:04:49.980 are you you worried ever about your safety um no and the reason i say that is because i think you

00:04:59.160 know um a lot of what we're facing is an energetic and spiritual uh battle i guess you could say and um i

00:05:07.240 think in order you know if you're afraid of of these people yeah um you're giving them power over you

00:05:13.500 and uh i think really the only way to to win this is to have your commitment to you know what you're

00:05:19.760 fighting for the good about humanity to be total right so good for you how old are you uh 33 you

00:05:28.100 you you write and think and speak like you're 80 and very wise thank you must have a good parents um

00:05:37.080 okay so i want to talk to you if we can in an hour i want to mention bitcoin get a little bit of that

00:05:43.460 journalism transhumanism esg the world economic forum we're not going to be able to get to all of it

00:05:50.000 but we have to start with jeffrey epstein because the way you have written about him it connects to a

00:05:59.300 whole world of corruption yeah is he kind of the rosetta stone yeah i think it's sort of like a

00:06:06.740 meta scandal you're looking at someone who really had i guess for lack of a better metaphor had his

00:06:12.040 hands in a lot of pies right right so he was sort of at the center of a lot of scandals but not

00:06:17.460 necessarily at the top right i think he was more maybe middle management in a sense but very central

00:06:23.540 to a lot of these things going on that sort of these um networks in which he um in which he inhabits

00:06:30.620 are involved in you know numerous acts of corruption simultaneously and he you know is there involved

00:06:37.520 in many of them but not necessarily at the top level right so was he was he a spy i think he

00:06:44.560 definitely had intelligence connections and there's a lot um you know to suggest that was

00:06:48.700 the case i think one of the most uh the earliest hints we heard of that was having a secretary of

00:06:53.880 labor alex acosta under trump uh say that one of the reasons he was pressured into giving epstein a

00:06:59.260 sweetheart deal during his first um arrest in florida was because he had been told by unspecified

00:07:05.420 actors that epstein belonged to intelligence but that's kind of you know what exactly does that mean

00:07:11.040 was he an asset was he on the payroll which intelligence agency multiple intelligence agencies

00:07:15.720 when you have his close association with someone like gillaine maxwell in the mix and her father had

00:07:20.620 affiliations with numerous intelligence agencies you know it really is an open question he was kind of

00:07:26.020 a bad guy reading your work about him and explain who he was uh so robert maxwell was involved in many

00:07:34.740 things uh but he definitely played a major role in undermining u.s national security by selling bug

00:07:39.700 software to nuclear laboratories in the united states um and this was directly facilitated by

00:07:45.300 well-known statesmen in u.s history like henry kissinger for example and a lot of the people i

00:07:51.660 think that enabled him at least on the u.s side tend to be those that uh favor global governance and you

00:07:58.280 know um they kind of don't want the u.s to have that kind of monopoly on on power because all of his

00:08:04.860 family they were killed in the holocaust right right and so uh he he's in the west england uh he survives

00:08:13.060 becomes kind of uh william randolph hearst of england yeah medium mogul sure yeah um and uh and then

00:08:24.100 betrays the west and that's not because he was on the other he wasn't on the soviet side he was on a

00:08:32.380 global government side well i think there you have to look at this network and they've evolved over

00:08:37.040 time right uh robert maxwell was very close to the eastern bloc he had a very close relationship with

00:08:42.000 intelligence figures in the kgb and also bulgaria he had a relationship with british intelligence and

00:08:47.060 israeli intelligence and was involved in aspects of what later became known as iran contra which of

00:08:53.200 course involves aspects of u.s intelligence so i mean he had his hands and you know everywhere and

00:08:58.160 everything and i think ultimately people like him are interested in any deal they can make to advance

00:09:04.080 their money and their power and their influence they'll take it so robert maxwell was very interested

00:09:08.820 in having his family be like the kennedy family a political power dynasty um and that's part of why he

00:09:15.200 started moving into new york city around you know just a year or two before he ended up dying and

00:09:20.200 galane maxwell was sent to new york sort of to be his emissary um wow into the u.s and he wanted her

00:09:26.080 actually to marry a kennedy and this is attested to and you know past mainstream media reports and

00:09:30.540 you know you can see his his efforts to get her close to i think uh one of the sons of robert f

00:09:36.100 kennedy um and also john john f kennedy jr trying to get her sort of in that social social tier because

00:09:44.040 he sort of saw that as you know would advance his power and also you know that of his children and i

00:09:49.180 think if you look a lot at the psychology of robert maxwell he seems to have had narcissistic

00:09:53.120 elements and that could be because of the trauma of his past and a lot of times narcissistic parents

00:09:58.100 see their children as extensions of themselves and so you know that he's looking at how to build an

00:10:02.980 empire and using his children to that effect and you sort of see that with the psychology of galane

00:10:08.200 maxwell as well galane

00:10:09.620 it was she part and parcel of from the beginning or was she

00:10:16.920 uh you know kind of a good girl idealistic comes over here you know knows that dad wants to put her

00:10:26.640 into powerful positions but not shopping women i i think it's a lot more complicated than that you

00:10:32.960 have to look at her early history um the favorite son of robert maxwell was originally michael maxwell

00:10:38.060 he was in a vegetative state after a car crash i think when he was 15 and that happened shortly after

00:10:44.420 just a few days after galane was born so her family members and she herself have attested to that she

00:10:50.100 was basically neglected for the first three years of her life and even developed a childhood anorexia

00:10:55.080 things like that and then you know not a few years after she becomes the favorite child so she goes from

00:11:01.000 having this complete lack of parental attention to being sort of showered in it by robert maxwell and

00:11:06.660 that obviously has going to have a psychological impact on someone and in addition there's a she was

00:11:13.440 basically uh managed by her father from a very early age he managed her uh tried to manage her

00:11:19.400 romantic life he tried to manage what job she would have and she was very dependent on him

00:11:24.160 so when he is dead in 1991 it makes sense that she would attach herself to someone with a lot of the

00:11:28.700 similar similar characteristics right so dad didn't know about uh jeffrey epstein wasn't alive at that

00:11:35.620 point well the allegation have been made by people that worked with robert maxwell um in the 80s

00:11:41.560 that um jeffrey epstein was seen in his offices frequently in the united kingdom and during that

00:11:46.940 period of time it was known that epstein was active in the united kingdom he was allegedly being

00:11:50.900 mentored by a british arms dealer named douglas lease with british intelligence connections

00:11:55.780 first of all you wrote two volumes a thousand pages yeah i mean that is crazy amounts of work yeah i had

00:12:05.400 my son was born in the middle of it so it was really crazy you were there for that i imagine

00:12:10.300 when your son was born um so tell me a thousand pages and it's not there's no fluff in it i mean

00:12:18.920 it's dense it's very dense why is it nobody else is reporting on this um well i guess i could i don't

00:12:27.800 really know exactly why that would be but the the silence is very eerie about major aspects of the

00:12:34.420 epstein case um you know it ended up being a thousand pages because i was as i was writing

00:12:39.740 about epstein a lot of the connections that came up i was i was just you know increasingly aware that a

00:12:44.820 lot of people in the american public um you know a lot of the names i was coming across most people

00:12:50.000 weren't going to be familiar with correct you know um banks like the bank of credit and commerce

00:12:54.940 international or bcci the scandal that involved or even things like iran contra people may have

00:12:59.960 heard the name but don't really know what it involved so i figured i was going to have to go

00:13:03.180 back and sort of explain that to people so that type of context is a volume one of the book and um

00:13:09.820 and also the history of sexual blackmail and how it's been sort of an undercurrent in some past

00:13:15.200 political scandals um in american history and how in these sorts of networks in which epstein was

00:13:20.460 inhabiting that type of practice and exploitation even of minors for those purposes was

00:13:24.800 actually um disturbingly common so epstein starts to look less and less of a you know he's not an

00:13:31.600 anomaly basically right um by the time you get through with volume one and so volume two is sort

00:13:36.920 of my effort to um you know dig up as much as i could you know with stuff that's publicly available

00:13:43.660 really um about epstein and also his greatest benefactor leslie wexner and then also uh you know

00:13:49.840 galene maxwell okay so so uh this is just there's a lot to discuss there's a lot to discuss here on

00:13:57.200 just this because it's this goes to the deep state or you call it um deep politics um and it's been

00:14:07.640 going on for a long time but people i don't think realize that you know the born identity you know

00:14:13.660 those jason born movies that that is a reflection of some people's real lives i mean it's a it's a

00:14:20.720 totally fictitious story but those things do go on and and i i i tell you i have i have felt for a long

00:14:30.960 time with the just with the nsa listening to everybody's phone calls if you're important

00:14:38.560 in washington they're going to do everything they can to manage you to manage you yeah so if you're

00:14:45.120 not rock solid in who you are and what right and wrong really is they got you yeah but even they

00:14:53.040 don't you know today i think we've moved away from the type of model that epstein used for

00:14:57.800 sexual blackmail it's an era of electronic blackmail and you don't even have to do anything wrong they

00:15:02.800 can just plant it on your devices and play gotcha that way so it's really an unprecedented situation

00:15:08.440 and a lot of these intelligence agencies as i note in the book you know really for decades have

00:15:13.360 been totally out of control um and you know i really start off the book talking about how

00:15:17.900 intelligence agencies and organized crime in the u.s got in bed together and really that symbiosis

00:15:22.960 um you know it was originally justified out of wartime necessity during world war ii fighting the nazis

00:15:28.680 yeah but it never stopped right right and it's um you know business is business and some of these

00:15:33.840 people in our own national security state you know realized they could make a lot of money

00:15:37.760 working with organized crime and really shielding them and getting in on the spoils i guess you

00:15:43.120 could say you know we think of in my idealistic years of thinking about america i thought well

00:15:53.040 we did some bad things yes and i'm not talking about slavery anything else i'm talking about things we did

00:15:57.820 in war but we had you know we really didn't want to do those things i'm not sure if any of that is

00:16:05.740 true are the people involved in this stuff do they recognize at all that this is evil or is this just

00:16:12.500 business well i think when you're talking about intelligence agencies there's hierarchies so there's

00:16:17.020 like people maybe low in different levels that may think what they're doing is right and advancing

00:16:21.420 american interests but then there's people at the top that aren't necessarily like that and it's about

00:16:25.480 advancing their own interests if you look at a lot of controversial um intelligence operations and

00:16:30.560 decisions coups for example of the past a lot of it was justified as um going against communist

00:16:35.740 influence trying to to keep that from growing um but then some of these same actors like the iran

00:16:42.000 contra types uh they ended up getting involved with the chinese government just a few years later in

00:16:46.900 the 1990s and some of this blossomed into what a lot of conservatives today remember is china gate during

00:16:52.300 the client administration and things like that so you know they really have no allegiance to anything

00:16:56.540 except uh their desire to grow their own money and power are we ever going to find out who's in the

00:17:02.040 black book i don't think so i think the fbi has been compromised from the very beginning uh in the book i

00:17:08.140 talk a lot about j edgar hoover he was blackmailed by the mob he uh realized the power blackmail had

00:17:13.760 started using blackmail himself um and you know increasingly the fbi and i think it's very obvious to a lot of

00:17:19.760 conservatives now uh comes in to cover things up and to you know go after uh you know figures that

00:17:26.640 they you know don't want to advance in their careers or you know any sort of thing it's it's very um

00:17:33.440 it's very complicated so what do we do as a country when you know there needs to be massive investigations

00:17:38.040 of all sorts of stuff jeffrey epstein being one and you know the government is increasingly capable

00:17:42.700 incapable of investigating itself especially when you're looking at the fbi or something

00:17:46.780 can we just go through some names like alan dershowitz and bill clinton and donald trump

00:17:53.260 what were they involved in uh so and so each of those cases is really different but if i'm looking

00:18:03.800 at you know i guess the one that's gotten the most gotten the most attention obviously are the

00:18:07.900 former presidents right trump and clinton um as far as i'm concerned the clinton epstein relationship is

00:18:13.380 much more damaging than the trump epstein relationship but there you know are obvious

00:18:17.840 reasons for concern uh and both of them and i don't think it's uh you know i in in trying to be

00:18:24.420 objective you know i can't absolve one or the other but are you saying are you saying because one is more

00:18:31.240 damaging because people don't understand it's not just the horrific evil sex trafficking that was going

00:18:38.120 on it's also massive corruption and financial financial crimes and and that's particularly

00:18:45.160 glaring with the epstein clinton relationship you have someone like jeffrey epstein that described

00:18:49.220 himself in the 80s as a financial bounty hunter he was hiding or finding looted money for powerful

00:18:55.140 people that's coming from him and he said this to numerous people there's numerous sources attesting

00:19:00.180 to this so obviously he was very comfortable with the offshore financial system shadow banking and all of

00:19:05.900 that and then in the late 80s um in addition to becoming involved with leslie wexner's finances

00:19:11.180 he is involved in orchestrating one of the largest ponzi schemes in u.s history uh the other person he

00:19:17.140 worked with in that steven hoffenberg uh you know is arrested and goes to jail for that in 1993 epstein's

00:19:22.600 name is dropped from the case and he ends up at clinton white house fundraisers and one of those

00:19:28.360 fundraisers is uh involved hillary clinton's effort to alleged effort to refurbish the white house

00:19:34.400 and this makes a brief appearance in vince foster's quote-unquote suicide note the only mention of

00:19:40.280 hillary clinton in that suicide note is relating to her and khaki hawker smith redecorating and how

00:19:44.900 there was nothing wrong with the finances there um if you're um you know listeners are familiar with

00:19:51.360 uh the vince foster situation and how hillary clinton her office was involved in finding the suicide

00:19:58.420 note when there was nothing in the briefcase and all of that later it's very interesting the only

00:20:02.380 mention of her name would be in trying to absolve that particular fundraiser of you know any wrong

00:20:07.580 doing which would have been foster's responsibility and that's jeffrey epstein's you know one of his

00:20:12.240 first interactions with the white house there's a picture of him shaking hands with bill clinton at

00:20:16.840 that fundraiser uh donor reception and uh only uk media covered that when it came out last december

00:20:23.460 i gotta tell you it's pretty stunning i only see stuff that i kind of trust from uk now i read any

00:20:31.800 there's any scandal going on in america i trust the foreign press more than i trust our well isn't

00:20:36.640 it stunning that there's a picture of you know the claim has been for a long time that the epstein

00:20:40.960 clinton relationship only really began after clinton left office and then you have a picture

00:20:44.860 contradicting that and it doesn't get any coverage so how does there's something else there obviously i

00:20:50.260 was shocked to learn from you that ron brown i i remember he was a guy who was on a plane going

00:20:58.940 someplace croatia yeah croatia and it crashed and and everybody was like it's another clinton murder

00:21:05.280 and i've never really bought into the i mean you wouldn't have to push me far but i'm a fact guy

00:21:11.220 you know what i mean yeah show me the facts um well it's a lot to unravel to understand the ron brown

00:21:17.780 situation because it's tied up with that what i mentioned earlier china gate which was uh very

00:21:22.480 difficult even for congress to investigate uh the man at the center of it who was also the man that

00:21:27.460 jeffrey epstein met with repeatedly at the white house named uh mark middleton he pleaded the fifth

00:21:32.120 28 times including uh to the question is was he a foreign agent and pretty much every key figure they

00:21:40.060 tried to subpoena uh also pleaded the fifth and there was just um you know it was very difficult

00:21:46.580 to investigate and even uh the george w bush administration uh the first invocation of executive

00:21:52.700 privilege of bush as president was among other things to block documents about mark middleton being

00:21:58.260 made available to congress and the 9-11 happens and everyone forgets wow it's it's very amazing

00:22:04.000 because mark middleton was not a high-ranking guy he was uh an aide to uh mac mcclarty who was chief of

00:22:11.280 staff and then a senior advisor to bill clinton so why are you having the subsequent president stepping in

00:22:16.460 for mark middleton there's obviously a lot going on there because at the same time uh that um mark

00:22:22.620 middleton is involved in china gate he's meeting with jeffrey epstein and jeffrey epstein in that

00:22:26.820 period of time is arranging for the relocation of southern air transport the iran contra airline

00:22:32.100 from instead of going from miami to latin america it starts going from columbus ohio where

00:22:37.340 leslie wexner is based uh to hong kong so are those events connected i make a case for that in the

00:22:43.680 and if if true it's very very disconcerting because basically you know to summarize china

00:22:50.000 gate you have a mass transfer of sensitive u.s military technology being made to china it's being

00:22:55.540 paid for by the pla or the the chinese military and uh ron brown was at the center of that because

00:23:02.260 the commerce department commerce department was signing off on you know all sorts of so why was he

00:23:07.960 then supposedly killed he uh shortly before he was uh unexpectedly asked to go on a trade mission to

00:23:14.840 croatia he agreed to cooperate with an investigation into this particular network that was executing

00:23:21.220 china gate and the people on the u.s side that were uh facilitating china gate uh were people that were

00:23:28.300 connected to the networks of longtime clinton benefactors the riadi family and jackson stevens who

00:23:34.380 you know were sort of political king makers for uh bill clinton when he was governor of arkansas

00:23:39.560 it's how much crazy how much of what we think we know is wrong or how big of a role is what we

00:23:51.540 think we know to what really is happening well i think there's been a major effort to control the

00:23:57.720 media and how much information gets to the american public about all sorts of things if you look at the

00:24:02.560 epstein case you're only allowed to talk about his sex crimes from 2000 to 2006 uh don't look at his

00:24:08.380 financial crimes or any of the thing he did before the year 2000 is you know pretty much how mainstream

00:24:14.200 media handles the case and that's pretty you know there's a lot to find if you can go back farther

00:24:19.680 so when you're you're looking let's just look at epstein for a second when you're looking at his

00:24:24.220 circle of influence he is somebody who's kind of recruiting just getting people

00:24:32.100 on tape doing horrible things or raising money so they're in the pocket right is that kind of his

00:24:38.780 role i think that's part of it but at the same time you know he's doing a lot of that he's also

00:24:43.340 involved in financial crime you know financial crimes pretty much throughout his career i mean

00:24:48.320 that's the common thread from epstein from the 70s right until his second arrest they would know that

00:24:53.060 if he was working as an operation that would kind of be over i think it was known i mean even in january

00:24:59.300 2020 you have john mccain's wife cindy mccain saying we all knew what epstein was doing right

00:25:04.580 and this is the wife of a senator with no direct connection to the epstein scandal so that means

00:25:09.140 top people in our congress and senate knew what epstein was up to and nothing was done and so does

00:25:17.180 that i mean is there a big body count around epstein yeah i think yeah i think there is to an extent

00:25:23.700 mark middleton who i just mentioned was found uh hung by the neck by an extension cord in may with a

00:25:29.820 shotgun wound to the chest um and it was ruled a suicide in little rock arkansas and a local court

00:25:37.420 ruled um pretty shortly thereafter that no video or you know photos of the scene could be publicly

00:25:43.820 released and this was only after you know mark middleton had been involved in chinagate and numerous

00:25:49.660 other scandals but that only happened just a few months after the visitor logs of him meeting with

00:25:54.280 epstein was released last december and published by the uk's daily mail so that's one but that's one

00:26:01.100 recently you also have john luke burnell who was a major facilitator of his uh sex trafficking

00:26:07.260 activities particularly when it came to the modeling industry um turned up dead in his prison cell you

00:26:13.200 have epstein himself and then you have uh the son of esther salas who was a the judge overseeing the

00:26:18.640 epstein deutsche bank case um murdered at uh her home let's not just gloss over epstein uh and his

00:26:27.560 death do you believe he hung himself i think the official story is just uh i mean it's it's crazy

00:26:35.200 uh personally because you know he he was a tall guy he's supposed to have hung himself from something

00:26:40.980 that's shorter than his standing height with like paper thin sheets he would have had to curl up in the

00:26:45.900 fetal position to hang himself and he's you're not going to do that it's it's very uh it's logistically

00:26:52.440 impossible we're supposed to leave all the cameras malfunctioned that night um you know the prison

00:26:57.900 guards were asleep it's a lot of coincidences um so who would who who would we have to believe

00:27:04.720 i mean that would have to involve

00:27:07.320 lots of government lots sure but he belonged to intelligence and if you look at you know

00:27:15.120 someone like robert maxwell he died off of his yacht uh he had a lot of ties to intelligence things

00:27:21.300 were you know the walls were closing in on him and his own daughter galaine maxwell thinks he was

00:27:26.640 murdered uh by uh rogue massad agents and sicilian contract hitmen and that's coming straight from his

00:27:34.300 daughter that worked closely with him so if you you know if things get too hot if you you know uh

00:27:40.560 maybe work did work for them in the past but you become you know more of a liability than an asset

00:27:44.900 you know things sometimes happen i don't believe in the pizzagate conspiracy you know there's an

00:27:51.540 underground however i i do think that there is real evil at the upper levels that yeah we've been

00:28:02.560 engaging in and all of us dupes out in the center of the country are like oh no you know i how much

00:28:11.140 how prevalent is the massive corruption and the evil with

00:28:19.360 well like i mentioned earlier the more you look at the people that were around epstein even before

00:28:26.440 epstein gets involved it becomes very clear that what he was doing was not uh out of the ordinary

00:28:32.020 for these particular groups especially like arms dealers like ednan kashoggi he had an alleged

00:28:37.200 harem of women that he used to blackmail powerful people in the private and public sectors on his

00:28:42.100 yacht um and all their sorts of types of people um robert keith gray a pr executive that uh started

00:28:50.440 working for ednan kashoggi around the same time that jeffrey epstein allegedly did has an alleged history

00:28:54.740 of sexual blackmail for the cia and then you have allegations of uh roy cone the well-known new york

00:29:01.820 mob attorney also being involved in sexual blackmail stuff begins uh working for ednan kashoggi in the

00:29:07.020 same period of time in the 1980s uh i mean they're the more you look it's it's quite uh it's prevalent

00:29:14.260 but you know how prevalent it is i can't really say but it definitely does influence our politics and

00:29:19.960 that's disturbing is the is the clinton foundation involved in any of this it's just so um i don't

00:29:27.320 know exactly um you know those types of activities i have no evidence for that and i haven't looked

00:29:33.320 into it so i'm not going to say it's not happening but i i just don't know because i haven't looked

00:29:38.100 right um but when you like i mentioned earlier about the epstein clinton relationship he goes from

00:29:42.660 ponzi schemes to clinton fundraising then he's involved with a lot of the 1996 controversial

00:29:47.280 fundraisers that were investigated by congress clinton leaves office he's flying around an

00:29:51.860 epstein's plane setting up the clinton foundation and the clint health access initiative and even

00:29:56.080 credits jeffrey epstein back in 2003 with designing a lot of the philanthropy that became the clinton

00:30:00.840 foundation specifically the hiv aids program so you have a serial financial criminal creating

00:30:05.780 basically the clinton political slush fund post-presidency um the um have you seen any

00:30:13.000 connections in um ukraine there's this is the hot bed of a lot of really nefarious players yeah um i

00:30:24.200 haven't looked into it specifically because a lot of my timeline that i did for the book you know

00:30:28.220 stops before um years like 2014 when there was this you know basically a coup um you know with

00:30:34.440 victoria newland and some of these people from the obama administration and all of that um so

00:30:39.120 unfortunately you know i haven't personally explored that but i think it's i mean even

00:30:43.080 mainstream media before the recent uh conflict there was you know pretty open about the corruption

00:30:47.900 in ukraine so i don't know your politics and it's not important to me what's important to me is

00:30:53.680 your character and your work which is phenomenal um but uh i'm guessing you and i don't necessarily agree

00:31:03.940 on policies you know maybe i don't know i just you know at this point i think my politics are i'm i

00:31:10.680 don't want the government to be run by organized crime that's what i think that's a starting point

00:31:15.480 for most americans let's start there right you know that's what i was driving to is

00:31:20.440 there are big things on the table that no one's talking about and we're all focused on the little

00:31:30.800 stuff they've used to divide and conquer us this whole time and big things are happening and basically

00:31:36.940 we are being herded into a pen a techno feudalism yes slavery i don't know a lot of there's a lot of

00:31:43.800 different names for it going around but it's not good right and it's organized crime you know

00:31:48.400 running the shell at the highest levels and also evil i mean yeah it's just getting so dark and

00:31:57.300 yeah you know i'm to the point where can you give me nine of the top 10 bill of rights you know

00:32:05.420 what i mean do you agree with those give me some anything that is foundational they're all being

00:32:11.300 destroyed all of them they don't mean anything anymore but those are the things that can bring

00:32:16.720 us together and they do i mean i'm sure you're called a radical conspiracy theorist

00:32:24.300 um you know there's a difference between conspiracy theory and conspiracy facts sure so i would call

00:32:32.360 you conspiracy fact purveyor yeah uh i guess so because conspiracy is a real crime and it's happening

00:32:40.880 and it's been happening right and um you know a lot of us are and sort of fed this you know when we're

00:32:46.600 in school and stuff sort of this naive i guess you could call it a fairy tale version of history where

00:32:52.040 there's no corruption everything's fine the mob disappeared decades ago nothing to see here but

00:32:57.860 that's uh not the real history of this country tell me before we leave epstein tell me why uh

00:33:05.000 maxwell's alive oh i think it's pretty obvious she's going to cooperate with the people that

00:33:13.300 supported that operation and she's not going to spill anything she got moved from the prison where

00:33:18.860 i think she was at the same prison where epstein died and now she's a what is has been described

00:33:23.580 as a country club prison in florida that wouldn't have happened unless she was like yeah just leave

00:33:29.340 me alone please i'll do whatever you want all right let's let's i think she knows from her father's

00:33:37.400 death who not to double cross and who runs the show yeah um how does this involve the regular person

00:33:44.500 why should the regular person care about this kind of corruption um in just talking about epstein the

00:33:50.260 financial crimes uh there are very significant and are just sort of a microcosm of what has basically

00:33:55.580 been the looting of the american public for decades you look at people like katherine austin fitz and

00:34:00.980 mark skidmore who have calculated about 21 trillion dollars of u.s taxpayer money that's just gone missing

00:34:06.280 from from the house of urban development and the department of defense right it's probably more than

00:34:14.160 that where is it being where to go where to go yeah who took it i remember and it's still happening

00:34:21.140 and now we're having uh the standard of life in the u.s being degraded inflation's increasing the

00:34:26.840 squeeze is on thanks to manufactured food and energy crises and i think um a lot of the stuff we're seeing

00:34:32.780 being built for us people are currently perhaps unwilling to accept but when they're cold and hungry

00:34:39.060 and desperate you're exactly right i think that some people will be more willing

00:34:43.180 you're not improving my mood much well you know it's um we have to understand what we're facing in

00:34:51.380 order to um you know solve it right and a lot of people deal with it i've i've been bringing this

00:34:58.200 bell for almost 20 years now and saying wake up pay attention look what's happening and it just keeps

00:35:06.340 getting more and more obvious and at times there are times you're just like i i how do you deal with

00:35:13.980 it um well i'm a mother um and i just uh i have to keep going i don't know i have to keep saying

00:35:20.900 something because my kids are going to live in this world right and there's certain things that

00:35:24.760 i just find unacceptable and i think every parent yeah probably does at this point so you know it

00:35:31.920 doesn't really matter anymore um and i think also if you're looking at this from like the energetic

00:35:36.520 spiritual level it matter you know um we have to keep fighting because what's the alternative and

00:35:43.360 what does that mean for us even after we're gone yeah right so let me you know i first ran into you

00:35:50.700 um and your work i don't remember where i saw you but you were talking about transhumanism

00:35:56.420 and this is something that again i i think i was talking about this in the 90s and saying it's been

00:36:04.020 going on a long time a long long time and saying that this is what life is going to head towards

00:36:09.880 and it's not good and we should probably have a conversation now you know we are on the verge

00:36:18.240 of this this is happening it could faster than ever yeah it could happen 20 25 30 35 it's here now

00:36:27.360 yeah explain what transhumanism is and why it is so dangerous yeah so i'll just uh probably start

00:36:35.400 with the history of it um so there was a man named julian huxley he's the brother of the famous author

00:36:41.620 aldous huxley he was president of the british eugenics society the united nations is created um

00:36:47.960 after world war ii he is put in charge of unesco in writing his vision for unesco julian huxley says

00:36:55.180 about eugenics we need to make the unthinkable thinkable again 10 years later he coins the

00:37:00.880 term transhumanism in a book did he read his brother's work um i'm sure actually that aldous

00:37:07.880 huxley's work was influenced by the type of social milieu he inhabited which would include

00:37:12.760 his his brother okay and uh you know sort of that those intellectual circles uh where both of them

00:37:19.720 grew up right you know this is the british aristocracy and really a lot of the idea of

00:37:24.600 eugenics going back to francis galton and you know darwinism and all of that it seems to sort of emanate

00:37:30.020 from from there fabian socialists and yes yes um so in in a book in 1957 i believe called new bottles

00:37:39.480 for new wine something like that uh julian huxley coins the terms transhumanism and talks about how

00:37:44.340 the new eugenics is going to be merging man with machine so this is basically eugenics rebranded

00:37:50.640 and a lot of people that funded eugenics causes of the past like the rockefeller family are you know

00:37:56.160 big proponents of transhumanism today and it's it's getting uh increasingly problematic um i would say

00:38:05.520 you know if you look for example at the new head of the fda who very few people have bothered to look

00:38:10.560 into um robert califf he's a former google health executive uh google health has a joint venture

00:38:16.300 with glaxo smith klein called galvani bioelectronics i think the former head of that was

00:38:22.060 monsef salawi who was in charge of operation warp speed and their focus is what they call bioelectronic

00:38:27.620 medicine which is uh you know injectable nanotechnology that can manipulate your central nervous system

00:38:35.300 what are the implications of that we have the person that uh just purchased twitter making a brain

00:38:40.120 chip company he's also a major contractor to the u.s military he has a major conflict of interest uh with

00:38:46.940 uh chinese silicon valley equivalents like tencent um and you know he says i love this he says that's

00:38:56.600 one of the reasons why i want to get off the planet he says his work is to find a way to a compete

00:39:04.300 against the transhumanistic you know no folly um uh you don't believe that at all i don't i don't buy

00:39:12.720 it no uh if you look at that company they had animal trials many of them of the monkeys that was

00:39:18.980 tested and died after the brain chip was put in if that were my company i would reformulate everything

00:39:26.340 or shut it down if it was going to kill that many animals but it's already moved into human trials

00:39:30.720 i mean even though it's killing all the monkeys well it killed many monkeys yeah i forget the exact

00:39:35.460 number but a significant portion it's so i this is where it gets frightening well it's tied up with

00:39:41.420 depopulation right you have this being sort of the new uh path of eugenics and so you know i don't think

00:39:47.520 these people ultimately care about you know how many people are left right smart and right well

00:39:55.000 eugenics is you i mean well people like to act like eugenics disappeared and it hasn't it's just

00:40:01.480 rebranded and if you look at the history it's it's very clear and it's very disconcerting that's why

00:40:06.880 everything you're seeing that is coming out of policy all over the world ever all of the all of

00:40:13.240 the world economic forums seem so malthusian the the medically assisted death originally it was going

00:40:18.800 to be for terminally ill people now people are pitching it to homeless people in canada saying

00:40:23.060 you're too poor to live do you want to kill yourself um how do we not remember what happened

00:40:32.220 last time well i think some of these people you look at the rockefellers they funded what happened

00:40:37.880 last time yeah a lot of that uh money that was used to set up the nazi eugenics program came from

00:40:43.980 the rockefeller foundation and that's a matter of record they've tried to go back and say oh we're

00:40:48.160 sorry but they're funding a lot of this stuff now you've read ibm and the holocaust i haven't read it

00:40:53.900 but i'm familiar with the relationship so um he's a good dear friend of mine and uh you know it's the

00:41:00.700 same thing it's the same thing now giant corporations are in bed with all of this stuff and someday they'll

00:41:09.380 be hiding it and go no no we didn't do anything with that but i don't know i don't think they even

00:41:14.280 have to now i mean if it really gets to the transhumanist point and they can just manipulate

00:41:18.280 um you know this is an attempt to manipulate consciousness yes really really so in memory

00:41:24.400 and all of that i mean they don't have to even bother with it anymore uh once it gets to that point

00:41:31.220 i talked to ray kurzwell once and and i said you put the nanotechnology just tell me out here ray

00:41:36.580 i'm a science fiction writer you put the nanotechnology into me and you control it not me

00:41:43.800 you control it and i start speaking out about things that you and the powerful don't like

00:41:50.040 why don't you just turn me off why don't you just oh you know what and all that nanotechnology and i just

00:41:57.560 die sure and his response was because we wouldn't do that yeah let's trust us how has that gone for the

00:42:06.560 you know past hundred years or so right and if organized crime are the people in charge are you

00:42:11.960 going to trust them i mean they want us to trust them if you look at the world economic forum or even

00:42:17.340 the bide administration um and a lot of their policy documents they're one of their main focuses uh are

00:42:23.220 rebuilding trust with the public and it's not working yeah it's not but they may be looking at

00:42:28.500 drastic interventions to make it work and i think you know if we're transhumanism to

00:42:33.000 uh be shore hooned uh shore horned uh shoehorned through you know that could happen and if you're

00:42:38.700 seeing this um you know the sort of these mergers uh because there's many of them of silicon valley

00:42:45.400 companies and and big pharma you know they're framing it as health care but it's eugenics being framed as

00:42:51.440 health care and it's uh it's really terrifying i mean it's terrifying it's crazy there's a lot of words

00:42:58.640 for it but you know ultimately uh it has to be stopped and unfortunately covet has set this

00:43:03.240 precedent where it can be mandatory or where you can lose your livelihood where you can you know not

00:43:08.740 be able to travel you can basically be placed under house arrest unless you agree to it if you don't i

00:43:14.720 mean in the grand scheme of uh where we've all been upgraded we're all part of the integrated i don't

00:43:22.660 think that's the intention that's how they're selling it to people if you look at this for example

00:43:27.040 the british eugenics society where a lot of this came came from you look at someone like h.g wells

00:43:31.080 best known as a science fiction writer but also a avowed eugenicist he predicted that in a hundred to

00:43:37.820 two hundred years there would be two human races there would be the um upgraded augmented elite who

00:43:45.820 were intellectual and attractive and you know were the ones that did everything and then a dwarf-like

00:43:52.100 troll-like squat underclass that eats bugs

00:43:55.700 and uh you know for people that have been paying attention it seems like you know they're selling

00:44:04.580 this as as one way it's all going to be a utopia utopian uh thing if we all upgrade i mean that's

00:44:11.920 how it's being framed right but if you look at how these people think they don't want that they're

00:44:17.680 looking at feudalism and how do you create a class of slaves that cannot even cognitively

00:44:24.040 rebel ever again it is why i mean it you know these teachers unions said oh we we care about you know

00:44:32.240 minorities and everything else they did more damage to a whole generation of minorities more than they

00:44:39.600 did white kids in general kids in general into the yeah into the gears of the machine i live in

00:44:47.360 south america the lockdowns there were brutal everyone was under house arrest basically you

00:44:52.580 were only allowed out of your house twice a week with papers that you had to show to police each

00:44:57.140 paper was good for like roughly three hours and uh my daughter goes to daycare um she's four

00:45:05.560 and she was thankfully you know shielded from a lot of this and was able to have interaction and stuff

00:45:10.700 but a lot of kids weren't and a lot of kids her age and younger are non-verbal uh they scream

00:45:16.420 like instead of talking i mean they can they're it's it's it's devastating and the fact that these

00:45:23.780 people you know act like it was for the children or for public health when you know the evidence

00:45:27.920 increasingly comes out and it wasn't you know it was it was for something else and i think we're

00:45:33.740 you know it's increasingly becoming clear what that something else is and was

00:45:37.540 what we're doing to farming the the the esg and world economic forum plan is evil i mean i i don't

00:45:54.200 i mean it seems an overused word and it's one i swore off about five years ago i said i don't want to

00:46:02.420 call things evil because it it has to be evil as a different level but when you're talking about

00:46:09.020 controlling and dumbing down and enslaving and destroying i don't know what other word to use

00:46:18.260 for it and they've gotten away with saying this this is conspiracy theory conspiracy theory well they

00:46:24.660 just you know i think that's you know since the the term really entered the american vernacular

00:46:28.980 uh after the assassination of john f kennedy it's been used to basically claim that if you think

00:46:34.260 powerful people get together to discuss how to advance their power um and keep it um at the expense

00:46:41.720 of everyone else and that they have any agency um you know you're crazy it all has to be a coincidence

00:46:49.100 you know they have they never have any bad intentions the people that you know are the oligarchs that you

00:46:54.840 know fund our politicians and have ties with intelligence and have monopolies and you know

00:47:00.140 uh the technology that runs our lives and stuff like that i mean it's um you know i think at this

00:47:06.720 point you have to be quite naive to think that's actually the case but um so how do people like the

00:47:12.680 um new governor i think of alberta uh is standing up against esg and the first thing one of the first

00:47:22.820 things she said was anybody that brags about how they have controls and people in every government

00:47:30.500 uh leader's office if not the leader themselves i don't think we should be doing any business with

00:47:37.780 them and esg and world economic forum is out um how does somebody like that survive somebody like

00:47:47.600 klaus schwab you know i think um you know it's not just klaus schwab i think klaus schwab is sort

00:47:55.080 of a man who is there to facilitate i mean let's talk about the world economic forum for a second and

00:48:00.140 what it is and what it's not they describe themselves as the premier promoter of public

00:48:03.980 private partnerships um for lack of a better word that is fascism so um then you have the family

00:48:11.340 history of klaus schwab that his father ran a nazi model company and funded the atomic bomb and all of

00:48:16.180 that and uh just very complicated stuff there and uh you basically have him being in this position

00:48:22.700 where he's promoting uh you know fascism on a global i mean he's a white kitty cat away from

00:48:29.200 being a james bond super well i but i think that's you know they want everyone to focus on him and

00:48:33.720 think that it's just him and just the world economic forum there's other organizations that are promoting

00:48:37.840 this too and also a lot of the you know the young global leader program that's not exclusive to the

00:48:42.200 world economic forum you know there's lots of other institutions with similar um agendas

00:48:47.300 you know that uh sort of are are related to the world economic uh forum which seeks you know not

00:48:55.340 just public private partnerships and fascism but global governance you know there's a lot of these

00:49:00.460 organizations seeding their people in in certain places uh so how do you you know fight against this i

00:49:07.780 think uh there are sort of like factional infighting uh to an extent and it's really hard to know um

00:49:15.700 how that's going at any given time um but there's an obvious effort um by powerful interest to stop

00:49:23.600 uh nationalist politicians from reaching the highest levels you think yeah i well i think it's pretty

00:49:30.560 clear yeah yeah so um you know how do they stop that i don't know i mean unfortunately you look at the

00:49:36.040 world economic forum a lot of the banks are very involved and when you you know are in bed with the

00:49:42.080 banks and the banks are in bed with you um it's it's very hard to go against that in today's world

00:49:48.160 and you know they're making it uh even harder on the little people people in canada that protested

00:49:54.040 with the the you know the trucker protest they were de-platformed not from social media but from

00:49:59.860 the financial system and i think that's going to become increasingly common it's already happening to a lot

00:50:04.760 of people that i work with taken off of paypal uh having trouble with their their banks venmo i mean

00:50:11.120 you know sure uh and i think that's gonna you know become increasingly commonplace and that's how

00:50:16.580 they're going to try and force compliance and you know a big part of this you have the move towards

00:50:20.320 a central bank digital currency and all of that at the same time which is programmable money the state

00:50:24.980 decides whether you save or you spend they decide what you can and can't buy and all this stuff

00:50:29.280 and all the central banks even on the you know uh in places like russia where vladimir prudin talks a

00:50:35.100 good game about nationalism and protecting our culture they're going full steam ahead with that too

00:50:39.680 it's the way you control a population yeah and i think all these governments are really interested

00:50:45.660 right now in domestic control so what does america look like at the end china that is the goal of a lot

00:50:52.900 of people at the highest levels of silicon valley in our government i would say look no oh sure i i i

00:50:58.720 i have friends who are industrialist and they would say to me 30 years ago china's the new model

00:51:06.940 and i thought i don't that's a bad model we don't want that they would just flippantly just say if china's

00:51:14.140 the new model it wasn't until 10 years later that i started going wait a minute they mean that sincerely

00:51:22.000 that how it works there all of it is coming here yeah that's terrifying for a long time we talked

00:51:30.860 about china gate earlier the origins of silicon valley are in that whole mix and a lot of the

00:51:37.460 most powerful people in our military industrial complex including like lockheed martin were involved

00:51:43.400 with that and wanted that sensitive technology to go to china and undermine our national security they're

00:51:49.080 looking there's something there was something going on there then and i think we're increasingly

00:51:53.160 seeing it now um i wrote an article in 2020 about the national security commission on artificial

00:51:59.560 intelligence they basically say that in order to uh be competitive in artificial intelligence and secure

00:52:06.180 economic and military hegemony for the united states we have to go beyond china in terms of their

00:52:12.860 implementation of surveillance technology um the use of artificial intelligence moving away from private

00:52:18.860 car ownership which they refer to as a legacy system in-person doctor visits uh to the ai powered

00:52:25.440 alternative this was in 2019 before covid covid comes along years before that i talked to the chairman

00:52:32.660 of the board at general motors and he told me by 2030 we won't be making cars as you know them today

00:52:38.820 we'll be making fleets yeah because people yeah it's uh you know ubers you rent and you can't control

00:52:45.360 where they go and they're only going to be in the smart cities you're not going between cities anymore

00:52:49.880 no more road trips uh no more you know you decide oh i want to go over here today i want to drive three

00:52:56.340 hours to see my family or whoever my friends that's that's over if these people win and the national

00:53:02.440 security commission on ai was run by eric schmidt former head of google uh one of the the co-chair was a

00:53:08.280 very top guy that works closely with schmidt that uh was at the department of defense and it's uh the

00:53:13.160 intelligence community the military and silicon valley and those are the people uh increasingly

00:53:18.720 running the show and they think if we don't uh go beyond china's surveillance uh system it's mega

00:53:26.200 city smart city model um we will fail and then you have people like elon musk coming in and saying i'm

00:53:31.580 going to take over twitter for free speech and then he also says i want to make twitter into basically

00:53:36.500 like wechat which is you know and basically a surveillance app to use in china that's for

00:53:41.940 your finances your social media all pretty much everything is on that app they even call it the

00:53:48.320 everything app and that's his model and the parent company of that tincent is one of tesla's

00:53:54.820 shareholders and you know most active advisors so is that data going to stay you know that he's going

00:54:03.380 to get from twitter the new twitter when it becomes a wechat equivalent is where's that going to go i

00:54:08.600 mean there's a lot if you look at um you know the china connection here it's you know when i was

00:54:13.740 writing before i wrote the book i didn't realize the extent of the overlap but it's very concerning

00:54:19.800 uh you have people with major conflicts of interest running our national security policy on things like

00:54:25.340 ai that have conflicts of interest with china and they you know eric schmidt just wrote a book with

00:54:30.120 henry kissinger and these guys basically argue in order to avoid a war a cataclysmic war with china

00:54:35.780 we have to make good and cooperate with china and the model for that is basically you know the world

00:54:41.100 economic forum i mean they argue the same thing uh global governance and technocracy um following the

00:54:47.980 china model here and it's very uh against every everything most americans are accustomed to

00:54:54.400 uh but they're i i guess finding ways to manufacture consent for it whether the justification is

00:55:01.100 climate change it's covid it's a food and energy crisis that's been manufactured um you know whatever

00:55:08.020 they can whatever will stick they'll use but the the problem is you're having the people that

00:55:12.340 control silicon valley behind this they control where most people get their information where most

00:55:17.060 people socialize today and they're increasingly censoring people from platforms they're waging

00:55:23.260 basically a war on dissent uh that i've written about a few times and it's getting you know

00:55:28.380 increasingly orwellian to the point where you know they'll label you misinformation or you know this

00:55:32.860 is disinformation uh but you know the biden administration if their war on domestic terror

00:55:37.420 advances the way they've written it out uh you say the wrong thing or you disagree with the state

00:55:43.020 even or the official narrative you're uh you know inciting violence you're potentially a domestic

00:55:48.060 violent extremist right um and that's happened in history before not necessarily the united

00:55:53.020 states but other countries and you know it's pretty clear that once that type of policy gets

00:55:57.340 implemented things go downhill very quickly do you have hope at all that

00:56:02.060 the if the republicans could win it at least slows it down i mean i think people in the republic

00:56:12.100 there's there's clearly people who go to washington and actually believe it and then are turned

00:56:19.120 uh or they go to wash and they're already a dirt bag and they know what they're getting into

00:56:24.240 and then there's a few that go and stand and are trying to hold the line but they're a minority

00:56:31.740 a big or they get forced out correct uh if i'm not mistaken ron johnson right um was the one that

00:56:38.260 that challenged a lot of covid narratives and i mean even mainstream media npr supposed to be

00:56:43.240 objective says oh he spreads conspiracy theories and his challenger's a rising star yeah yeah and you know i mean

00:56:48.860 they're very clear about who they favor and who they don't and if they don't want you to win they'll

00:56:52.540 gerrymander your district they'll do so i mean there's lots of tools and that they can use to

00:56:58.360 prevent you from from staying in office and who knows what we'll uh see in the midterm elections

00:57:04.400 but ultimately you know those type of people that are willing to stand their ground and actually fight

00:57:09.920 for the american people are very few um even and it doesn't really matter what party you're talking

00:57:15.920 about it's very small number when you consider the amount of votes needed to pass certain legislation

00:57:21.480 um so i think ultimately the way out of this is for the american people to realize that we yes this

00:57:30.820 is a fight between good and evil but if you're looking for the good guys stop looking at people

00:57:35.160 that are put on the tv screens in front of you and start looking at your neighbors yeah and the answer is

00:57:41.360 so clear local local local local yes absolutely this is really us versus them it's not left versus

00:57:48.800 right anymore we are so far beyond that yeah uh really and it's amazing and very heartening

00:57:55.600 how many people that i know and i interview that um we would have we would have been against each other

00:58:05.820 15 years ago we would have say oh you're and now it's like no no no forget all forget all of that

00:58:11.860 yeah you know and it's heartening that people are waking and starting to come together question is

00:58:21.000 do we make it fast enough i've been saying for a while this is going to be a photo finish i don't know

00:58:27.460 which one's gonna i don't think anyone really does and i think it comes down to how much responsibility

00:58:32.800 people are willing to take for their own lives and and you know how how far communities are willing

00:58:37.420 to go to ensure that they're self-reliant in the face of what we're facing well if the banks are

00:58:43.940 deplatforming people you can't use their financial system are you going to go to the cbdc land where

00:58:48.800 eventually you won't be able to spend money without like a microchip in your hand and all of this stuff

00:58:53.900 um you know there's obvious red lines people can't cross how are you going to feed your family how are you

00:58:58.740 going to keep your house heated in winter uh you know basic needs i think uh we should probably be

00:59:04.600 taking some lessons from the amish to be honest i think you know i think they got a lot of stuff right

00:59:10.740 the amish they're going to be fine they're going to be fine we have

00:59:15.740 we have outsourced our needs to corporations that want to enslave us

00:59:21.820 so we have to uh start producing our own stuff at a local level it's all about exit and build and

00:59:29.440 that's what we have to do and the more people that do that um the better off we will be the real

00:59:34.840 question is how uh accustomed are americans to convenience and will we be enslaved by that

00:59:41.580 convenience or not and i think that's the ultimate so far we have been a lot of people have been yeah

00:59:46.040 um talk to me a little bit about bitcoin um so i'm you know not necessarily um uh well versed on

00:59:54.240 cryptocurrency i do um uh i i like bitcoiners because we tend to have a lot see a lot in common

01:00:01.780 about um you know the state of government today and uh the federal reserve for example central bank

01:00:07.320 central bank digital currency um and all of that but you know because i'm not particularly well versed in

01:00:13.240 it i don't like to tell people how to spend their money it's a very individual decision um do you

01:00:18.080 think it can survive uh i think the central banks the bankers and the government will do everything

01:00:24.000 they can to prevent a currency that threatens their power from actually being able to be used and i think

01:00:28.740 we're already seeing uh major efforts to make that the case you know they can make it illegal to

01:00:33.960 uh you know turn it into something else illegal to use as tender you know they they're looking at a lot

01:00:40.480 of different options um but you know some bitcoiners despite that think it's totally possible but i

01:00:47.540 don't think i'm qualified to talk about that um you know i personally have you know um in terms of my

01:00:53.480 finances like you know some people donate to my work in crypto i have a little bit of that but you know

01:00:58.180 i'm personally looking at trying to put as much of my money as i can and things that will keep me and

01:01:02.640 my family self-sufficient come what may uh which in my case included like investing in land so i'm not

01:01:08.980 renting i own where i live i have enough land to produce what my family needs in terms of food

01:01:15.180 stocking up on things that i can't produce you know things like that that's where my money is

01:01:20.320 personally going but i am not in the business of telling people you know giving financial advice

01:01:25.060 beyond that but you know if the goal is to have developed parallel systems so we're not dependent

01:01:30.580 on the systems of the people trying to enslave us you know whatever you think is a good way to get

01:01:36.260 from point a to point b uh you know that's probably where your money should be going if bitcoin's a part

01:01:41.400 of that if you feel that way good for you and if not you know good for you too i think ultimately

01:01:45.920 what we need to do is um uh try and create something so that we can be resilient and not have to

01:01:53.520 uh i mean because the system is just so unacceptable uh i mean it's an it's really not just in and it's

01:02:01.720 not just against freedom and all sorts of other values right it's just it's against nature it's

01:02:07.720 against life really and so i mean if you're going to support that you know i think people have to

01:02:14.380 realize the consequences that come with that and exactly what it means when you are are willing to

01:02:21.120 give yourself over that kind of system the implications of that and i think a lot of people

01:02:25.140 don't really realize that or take the time to think about it and i think they should are you

01:02:30.700 god driven you is god a center of you yeah but i tend to think of maybe god differently than most

01:02:37.760 christians i don't really see it as a person or as a man i see it as uh maybe the universe or the

01:02:43.280 creative force right uh you know uh the energy uh that drives all life george lucas and the force

01:02:50.280 i mean there's a lot of different ways you know to look at it but ultimately if you're looking at

01:02:54.880 humanity what do you like about humanity it's all the it's the creativity it's uh the vivaciousness

01:03:01.740 you know that's the stuff that i think we're fighting for uh and you know uh a lot of the guys behind

01:03:07.800 this want to to eliminate that i think a lot of transhumanism is aimed at creating like a drone-like

01:03:13.540 workforce that will never be able to uh challenge their working conditions or ask for a bigger piece of

01:03:18.980 the pie and it's amazing to me that more people on on the left don't see that if they're all about

01:03:23.800 workers rights and unionizing all right you have a chip in your brain how's the how's you know

01:03:28.500 workers rights going to go and how is union how are the unions in bed furthering all of this well i

01:03:36.100 would say that you just have to look back to uh the unions you know back in the 20s and 30s and 40s

01:03:41.140 and how organized crime took them over and that hasn't really changed um so the big ones i mean you

01:03:46.260 know um so it's um you know a lot of those guys over the years have evolved to uh support these

01:03:52.380 types of of policies because it's more control and money and what does the mob love more than anything

01:03:57.500 else right what why is the left you know i've always held libertarian more libertarian views when it

01:04:10.600 comes to social issues i don't care who you marry i don't care what you do i don't care who you love

01:04:15.160 that's no no business of mine shouldn't be in the business of the government you know that was a

01:04:20.100 progressive idea to have a marriage license from the government um but we fought this and i remember

01:04:28.280 saying to my my daughter who was in college at the time she said dad it's about love and i said

01:04:33.000 i don't think it is i think it's about control and this argument if we play it out you can't stop

01:04:42.340 polygamy you can't change one factor without changing other factors and everyone said these

01:04:49.600 things were crazy we we are now transitioning kids because there's no gender identity anymore

01:04:59.400 we are sexualizing our youngest kids

01:05:04.020 what where is that coming from it's such a force if your ultimate goal is total control

01:05:14.060 you need to have a population that has no national identity that has no identity period that that

01:05:21.780 identity can be fluxed and can be moved uh whenever convenient for the people on top if people have an

01:05:28.100 identity and know who they are and know where they stand they're a lot harder to control and i think if

01:05:32.320 you make all of that fluid um at every level uh it's a lot easier to exert your will over them because

01:05:42.000 you know they they don't have their feet firmly on the ground right i thought of this several times

01:05:49.580 during this podcast i think this is the most empowerful interview i've ever done well thank you

01:05:56.760 yeah i mean i i i hope people listen and open their mind enough to go that can't be true i mean i usually

01:06:09.760 start my investigations on things going no way it can't be i don't do that as often now because i'm seeing

01:06:19.840 oh yeah it probably is yeah um did did who were you before you started doing this who i mean did

01:06:29.840 you believe these things or have you found these things going oh my gosh and one leads to another

01:06:35.320 well i guess you could say that when i was younger in my teen years i had a major trust issue

01:06:39.780 with adults um and i just uh had a hard time i just didn't believe what i was told a lot of the

01:06:47.040 time i had to figure it out for myself and all sorts of things i guess that's sort of a lot of

01:06:51.700 some teenagers um are like that but i um you know around the time i was in university the last year or

01:06:59.320 two i sort of figured out um a lot of things about um american history that's sort of hidden from us

01:07:06.380 um uh the government isn't exactly there to help necessarily

01:07:11.900 i don't know how we went from hey government is like fire with george washington saying

01:07:19.760 if you're in control of it it's good if it's out of control it'll burn you

01:07:24.020 to hey we're from the government we'll educate your kids how could you possibly think a government

01:07:31.240 is going to raise kids who say be skeptical of us yeah well it's not you know

01:07:37.400 look at who has taken over education system you go back to things like uh the rockefeller family

01:07:43.920 or their role in health care there's a lot of oligarch families that have very specific agendas

01:07:49.320 that have really taken over government policy and it's been like that for a very long time

01:07:53.260 and they're not elected no one put them in charge actually a lot of people used to hate the rockefeller

01:07:59.960 family until uh you know they started a major pr campaign to rebrand themselves as philanthropists

01:08:05.360 that a lot of uh other unpleasant people have since followed um and uh you know the long-term

01:08:12.900 consequences of that we are seeing today um but anyway um in terms of my background you know i was

01:08:20.580 you know 21 22 and just looking around you know i'm 33 so i'm a millennial right and uh most people my

01:08:28.200 age just you know i could see a lot of this stuff like um we're too dependent on corporations that have a

01:08:35.220 lot of nasty uh agendas or do bad things there's a lot of issues a lot of illegal wars no accountability

01:08:41.320 at the highest levels of government you know if people my age don't start doing something it's

01:08:46.080 going to get really bad uh and most you know most people were like stop talking about that i have

01:08:51.600 netflix and beer so i don't care everything's fine as long as you know i'm comfortable basically

01:08:56.040 you know screw your politics or screw your concerns and i just uh then wait i left the u.s after that

01:09:02.440 how can the same group of people that generation claim that no you have to be an activist you have

01:09:12.000 to be involved in climate change and you know i'm going to sit down and glue myself to a wall like a

01:09:17.700 moron uh you know yeah well that's the activism that's put in front of young people today and they're

01:09:23.440 being told that's what activism is and that that's the activism that's sort of in vogue because it's

01:09:28.100 shown and treated by mainstream media as sticking it to the man these people throwing tomato soup on

01:09:33.680 paintings but you look at uh those groups i think they're called just stop oil they're funded by the

01:09:38.140 getty and rockefeller families and the rockefeller family you know made their money off of oil but you

01:09:44.020 know they have a long time interest in eugenics and funding right um you know people that basically

01:09:49.740 helped create uh this sort of new environmental movement that uh downplays uh pollution and plays

01:09:56.940 up carbon dioxide and that's all we should be worried about and you know it's human the biggest i think

01:10:03.020 the quote from the club of rome is the biggest enemy of humanity is man and furthering you know that

01:10:08.600 narrative not that you know it's not the corporations that pollute or uh even the u.s military is

01:10:14.840 you know even by you know climate change metrics the biggest contaminator of you know the planet and

01:10:20.800 all of that it's not about those guys it's just about the regular people but really what it's about

01:10:26.220 is controlling how much energy people can use and if you can control how much energy a household can

01:10:31.520 use you can control their economic activity you also control how many family how big their family can

01:10:36.280 get and i think that's ultimately uh what it's about it's not about the environment for these people

01:10:43.060 and a lot of it is uh you know wall street driven you look at the united nations a lot of the people

01:10:47.860 they put in charge of a climate change policy you have mark carney former head of the bank of england

01:10:54.360 and the bank of canada i believe uh he's one of the guys that came in to rescue hsbc when they were

01:10:59.580 caught uh money laundering for mexican drug cartels not exactly a good guy and it's very unlikely that he

01:11:06.400 is driven by uh concern about the environment and then the other person is michael bloomberg former mayor of

01:11:11.780 new york and uh billionaire guy and so these are the people crafting the solutions and just like

01:11:17.880 covid you don't have time to think about what we're telling you you just have to accept these solutions

01:11:22.460 because if you don't something really really bad will happen and it's the same it's sort of a similar

01:11:27.540 narrative to what you know was played out with covid and everything guns cars everything yeah so you

01:11:34.020 know people are being it's it's fear uh fear driven to get people to accept policies they otherwise

01:11:39.720 wanted to accept because they're told this cataclysmic event is just down the line and trust

01:11:43.540 us again is uh the conclusion of that so you know uh there's people that agree with the narrative about

01:11:51.680 climate change and there's people that don't and i'm not trying to really get in that space when i

01:11:55.840 talk about this stuff i'm trying to point out that the solutions are coming mostly from wall street

01:12:00.680 and they're things like carbon markets they're things like debt for climate swaps which back in the

01:12:06.700 day used to be debt for land swaps uh not about climate change and you know about other stuff

01:12:11.900 um and then you have people like larry fink of black rock and michael bloomberg and mark carney

01:12:17.600 coming together and something like g fan saying why don't we give wall street direct control of the

01:12:22.000 imf and the world bank for climate change you know right how can anyone on the left that's worried

01:12:29.280 about climate change sign up on that why don't they talk about planting trees why isn't bill gates the

01:12:34.180 largest you know like private landowner in the u.s now planting trees like crazy if he's so worried

01:12:38.460 about carbon dioxide um you know he he pooh poohs the whole idea of planting trees as a way to combat

01:12:44.880 climate change it's just carbon markets and uh going to electric vehicles and all of this stuff but

01:12:50.000 electric vehicles necessitates mass mining uh and a lot of that mining is in places that use child labor

01:12:56.320 or it's going to be so environmentally destructive you uh totally destroy the developing world which you know

01:13:02.060 these people on the left supposedly want to protect you're going to totally destroy the environment

01:13:06.200 um i live in the south of chile in the andes uh it's one of the only areas in chile that's still like

01:13:14.080 forested and really nice not polluted water any of that most of the mining in chile is historically in

01:13:19.440 the north which has become very polluted and uh has a lack of water among other things and now the

01:13:25.880 mines are starting to move south because of this demand for more and more minerals for you know

01:13:31.400 electric vehicles and all of that um a lake that used to be used for tourism uh there was uh some

01:13:36.700 mineral i forget what it is discovered in the lakeshore and then the water just disappears one

01:13:41.260 season and now it's ready to be mining right next to a national park uh i used to live and work in peru

01:13:46.400 uh they were talking about putting a uranium mine next to machu picchu and all types of stuff i mean this

01:13:52.380 is uh going the mining stuff is not being talked about and uh you know electrical vehicles are being

01:13:58.440 marketed as necessary but it's going to come at a massive massive cost and i think that you know

01:14:04.440 again the environment the environmental movement is focused on carbon dioxide if they were really

01:14:11.680 worried about the environment they would also educate people on how destructive this type of

01:14:16.100 mining is and what it does to the people who live there in the environment and including in protected

01:14:21.460 areas um there's a lot of species in this particular area of chile where i live that are only there

01:14:26.360 and they've uh you know been there for thousands of years and they'll not exist if a lot of this

01:14:31.700 mining goes forward but if you ask people like uh bill gates for example if you has a joint venture

01:14:37.700 with most of the other titans of silicon valley called cobalt metals they say all of the world's

01:14:43.260 reserves of lithium cobalt and nickel must be completely mined if we even want to get close

01:14:48.220 to the electrical vehicle revolution so that means digging up the entire andes including areas that

01:14:53.920 international parks right now and uh even if they do with all the reserves that we know that we have

01:15:00.540 you're not going to be able to reproduce the amount of private cars in use today it's going to be way

01:15:05.940 less cars and so they're just going to be i mean the models already sort of been out there they fielded

01:15:10.320 it in the uk recently you can't drive out of your district and all of that stuff it's going to be much

01:15:14.900 more controlled the freedom of movement well it's not really going to be freedom of movement it's going

01:15:18.520 to be controlled movement last question

01:15:22.840 are you optimistic um so that's a tricky question you know it sometimes you're working and writing

01:15:35.220 on this stuff i mean it's ups and downs sometimes you feel inspired sometimes you're like oh my gosh

01:15:40.360 you know yeah um you know but ultimately there's really no other way to be except to believe

01:15:48.900 totally in a better future um i mean we have to be totally committed to that if we're going to do it

01:15:54.740 and do it quickly and um you know i have a lot of hope uh that um americans when when things get

01:16:03.180 really rough will come together at least most of us i think so too you know um but you know in in the

01:16:09.560 environment we're in right now i think it's incumbent on everyone no matter how small or big your

01:16:14.480 platform is to speak up about what is happening uh i think we are past the time about worrying about

01:16:20.760 what people say about you about at work or at home or wherever the president gave a speech last night

01:16:28.000 and he i don't remember what he was calling people and i thought that just that is so i so i am so

01:16:34.180 far beyond caring about names and labels that anybody you know and i i think there are more

01:16:41.440 and more people around the world that are like i don't care i don't care what you call me i don't

01:16:46.720 care you know what you do i i just know what's true and i'm just not going there with you well the

01:16:54.480 government wants to define what is true and what is not i wrote a recent article um about that uh in

01:17:00.940 explaining some of the calls to basically uh make it such um and it's it's you know even if they try

01:17:09.200 and do that and they try and say this is the state you know the state is defining truth and if you

01:17:13.800 deviate from that you are inciting violence um and all of that but the problem is people at a visceral

01:17:19.880 level gravitate toward the truth so they hear it and they're like oh that makes sense or they look at

01:17:24.920 the sourcing or they investigate for themselves and they realize what is true and what is not

01:17:29.520 so you know the state and silicon valley there's really not that much space between them to be

01:17:34.960 honest at this point um you know they can try and and censor and manipulate and and whatever but

01:17:40.800 ultimately people are going to gravitate towards what is true and there's going to be a point where

01:17:45.320 they're not going to be able to really the tools they have now will not work and i think a lot of

01:17:50.960 that is uh that time will come once people stop trying to use these platforms uh that they are

01:17:57.880 manipulating and start just going out and talking to people they know uh we have to get offline and

01:18:05.900 we have to do it quickly uh maybe even get back you know in circulating in print stuff that's printed

01:18:11.420 i mean we really have to stop uh depend being so dependent on these on these platforms that they're

01:18:16.860 obviously manipulating i think everyone knows about it or they're censoring people from

01:18:20.540 um and they're using it to profile you you know stop giving them your data and start getting in the

01:18:26.920 real world and telling people uh what's what i mean they may call you crazy but the stakes are too high

01:18:32.440 to not do it that's how i feel thank you my pleasure thank you thank you

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 12, 2025

Ep 162 ｜ Epstein's SHOCKING connections to intelligence agencies ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast REPLAY

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