The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 169 ｜ What Are the Feds HIDING in Jan. 6 'Investigation'？｜ Darren Beattie ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

00:00:00.000 The crusade against Donald Trump has repeatedly promised atomic bombs everywhere, and then a peanut falls out on the table.

00:00:10.100 Almost every time, the people who challenge him to a death match wind up in the losing corner, kind of rocking back and forth like they're in a Lifetime movie.

00:00:19.920 But that doesn't stop them.

00:00:21.780 If anything, it makes them even more vicious.

00:00:24.040 Like a lot of Trump allies, today's guests learned the hard way, and it has cost him a lot.

00:00:31.240 Years of climbing the academic ladder, he was a professor at Duke University.

00:00:37.260 2016, he signed a letter pledging his support to Donald Trump.

00:00:41.760 Well, he was the only non-tenured professor in the entire nation to publicly endorse Trump as a candidate.

00:00:49.380 Non-tenured.

00:00:51.260 He insisted that Trump would win. 0.77

00:00:53.120 Well, the clergy in the in the Church of Academia, I mean, he might as well have been a murderer, gone on a murder spree.

00:01:02.320 So he left academia to become a speechwriter for President Trump.

00:01:06.460 He suddenly found himself at the White House writing a speech about a turkey in need of a pardon.

00:01:12.900 He realized he quickly realized at that time, political elites tack anyone connected to Trump.

00:01:20.920 They fight dirty and they never stop and they never stop scheming.

00:01:25.560 The Southern Poverty Law Center teamed up with CNN to label him a white supremacist.

00:01:31.260 Didn't matter that they were wrong.

00:01:33.360 To quote the New York Times, he was fired for attending a gathering with white nationalists to a commission that helps preserve sites related to the Holocaust.

00:01:44.900 He's Jewish, by the way.

00:01:48.260 So then he took a different angle.

00:01:50.180 He started doing journalism in May 2020.

00:01:53.960 He founded Revolver News, his take on a newer, sleeker version of the Drudge Report.

00:02:01.040 Then came January 6th, 2021.

00:02:04.060 He was doing some great reporting on Ray Epps and the involvement of feds in the January 6th debacle.

00:02:09.980 He he calls what happened a fedsurrection.

00:02:15.440 This about the time he popped onto my radar, really.

00:02:19.060 So we had him on this podcast.

00:02:21.660 He was one of the few people willing to even ask questions.

00:02:25.220 He's a very brave guy.

00:02:26.780 He was quickly branded a conspiracy theorist.

00:02:29.680 He's been called a Nazi, a racist.

00:02:31.660 I mean, he's got all the labels.

00:02:33.860 Well, as for some more details, new things have happened.

00:02:40.420 It's becoming clear that he wasn't so conspiratorial after all.

00:02:44.420 Who could have seen that one coming?

00:02:46.200 He wrote the foreword to one of a dozen or so publishings of the 888 January 6th report.

00:02:53.680 He's not going away anytime soon.

00:02:56.500 A new house is going to require a new January 6th committee.

00:03:00.300 And by new, I mean that Republicans have a chance to find out and tell us the truth.

00:03:07.640 What is the truth?

00:03:09.120 The guy who's probably done more investigation on this than anybody else.

00:03:12.980 Darren Beatty.

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00:04:22.120 So, Darren, I want, I'm so frustrated because everybody's made up their mind on January 6th, both sides.

00:04:43.060 And I don't think the story has even been told, which you are doing such a great job at.

00:04:48.680 And I don't think people understand why it is so important.

00:04:54.400 I don't care who you voted for.

00:04:55.960 I don't care if you think Donald Trump was the worst guy or the best guy.

00:04:59.360 This is critical or we lose everything.

00:05:03.460 Is that an overstatement?

00:05:05.340 No, I think it's actually very accurate and it's important to understand why.

00:05:10.240 You know, I think a lot of everyday Americans, they're far more concerned with issues like inflation or otherwise.

00:05:16.720 And there's this sense that it's only the radical leftists that are making this huge deal about January 6th with hyperbolic comparisons to 9-11.

00:05:27.760 I think Biden even said it's worse than the Civil War.

00:05:31.120 Forget about 9-11.

00:05:32.540 It's worse than the Civil War. 0.93

00:05:33.720 We've got some ridiculous statements and people just tune it out and say, okay, this is just partisanship. 0.98

00:05:38.880 It's bluster. 0.97

00:05:39.560 And to a certain extent, that is true.

00:05:41.800 It's not an insurrection on the level of the Civil War or anything like that.

00:05:46.500 But the reason it's important and we can't tune it out entirely is that there is a false narrative being pushed.

00:05:53.800 And the purpose of that narrative is to facilitate the weaponization of the national security state politically against the American people.

00:06:02.800 And that's what's at stake.

00:06:03.960 It would be one thing, you know, it's horrible what's happened to a lot of the people languishing in prison for, in many cases, relatively trivial offenses.

00:06:13.380 But the bigger picture, what's really at stake is the nature of the country we live in.

00:06:20.200 What type of country are we going to live in?

00:06:22.100 Do we want to live in a country where over half of the country is effectively demonized as domestic terrorists for having pretty much sensible political views?

00:06:37.940 Because if you do that, you can't coexist.

00:06:41.620 You can't.

00:06:42.000 What do you do with if half the country are terrorists?

00:06:44.220 What do you do with that half of the country?

00:06:45.780 Right. 0.99

00:06:45.940 You know, you either have to reeducate them or you have to put them in a camp or kill them or something. 0.99

00:06:50.940 But you can't live next door to a terrorist. 0.91

00:06:54.720 The thing that bothers me the most, and I want to I want you to take us through everything.

00:07:02.500 But the thing that bothers me the most, and it is not just in January 6th.

00:07:07.300 Is the intelligence community and the FBI, the power and the arrogance of the use of the power in such clear and unusual ways.

00:07:23.140 You know, they are this apparatus is being used either by them or somebody else to carry out an agenda.

00:07:31.940 And blame it on other people.

00:07:37.820 And if they can do this to the president of the United States, what do you why do you think they're going to there's any justice for you that you're going to be different?

00:07:49.540 They'll be fair with you.

00:07:50.500 No, it's a great question.

00:07:53.220 And, you know, we saw pretty egregious behavior in relation to Donald Trump.

00:07:57.900 We saw the deplatforming of a sitting president of the United States from his chosen method of communication when he was taken off of Twitter.

00:08:07.720 The intelligence community has been involved in so many things going back to the, you know, the Russiagate hoax.

00:08:13.760 And there's just this common thread that they they like they're they're irrigating for themselves the status of, say, the grand Ayatollah in Iran.

00:08:25.700 They're they're the ultimate arbiters of how far, quote unquote, democracy is able to go and in what direction.

00:08:33.840 And really, I think the correct heuristic to understand the intelligence community's posture to Trump and really more broadly, the energies associated with Trump movement or a populist movement more broadly.

00:08:49.780 They look at it the same way they look at it, quote unquote, authoritarian movement overseas.

00:08:54.820 And they implement the same tools, color revolution methodology, which I think you've spoken about a lot of the same national security tools that they would deploy overseas in order to topple an authoritarian ruler that is against our geopolitical interests.

00:09:15.600 They marshal all of those tools against Trump and they marshal those tools against the Trump movement and Trump supporters and more broadly, anyone who dares question the direction of the country under Biden.

00:09:29.800 We have seen them, the State Department and the CIA topple governments in other countries that they wanted to topple because it was in the best interest of whomever.

00:09:42.060 Right.

00:09:42.660 And you watch it and you're like, wait, I just saw that.

00:09:46.300 That's exactly what happened overseas.

00:09:49.340 This is how we topple them.

00:09:51.180 No, exactly.

00:09:52.080 And it's funny, you know, there's the theory, but it really the theory is represented substantially in the people involved.

00:10:00.880 And, you know, before we reported on January 6th, I think we were best known for the color revolution reporting.

00:10:05.920 And there was one individual that really stands out called Norm Eisen, who has sort of been everywhere.

00:10:12.200 He's a color revolution professional.

00:10:14.540 He's literally written a book on it, on how to do it.

00:10:17.260 And it just turns out one of the many nice little details of January 6th is his fingerprints are all over the January 6th committee.

00:10:24.820 Joseph Sellers, a lawyer who helped Chairman Benny Thompson have a personal lawsuit against Trump.

00:10:34.920 Now, by the way, if some guy launches a personal lawsuit against Trump and others for January 6th and that lawsuit already promulgates a specific theory about what January 6th was and Trump's criminal culpability.

00:10:48.840 You would think that would present a conflict of interest for that person becoming the chair of an ostensibly, you know, disinterested, objective fact-finding vehicle for January 6th.

00:10:59.720 It would be like somebody who has said, I'm suing Lee Harvey Oswald for his killing alone, without any other help, you know, JFK.

00:11:14.340 Well, I'm not going to trust that that guy's going to give me the truth.

00:11:17.940 Exactly.

00:11:18.420 You know, he's going to give me what he already believes.

00:11:21.240 Right.

00:11:21.480 And so there are so many things like that.

00:11:23.280 And I don't even like to dedicate too much time to the committee because it's just a waste.

00:11:28.340 And what really matters is the questions that they didn't ask.

00:11:31.560 But Norm Eisen, his fingerprints are on it because his sort of lawfare buddy really helped Benny Thompson in his early lawfare efforts in relation to January 6th.

00:11:43.240 And the whole purpose of it was really an extension of the impeachment process.

00:11:47.200 It's just to cripple Trump politically.

00:11:50.280 And now with these criminal referrals recommendations, I don't know whether they'll actually go through with it in the DOJ, but it's helpful to have that hanging over the head of a presumptive nominee of a major political party.

00:12:05.300 It's helpful for the system.

00:12:06.780 It's not particularly helpful if we want any notion of a democratic process that responds to the will of the people.

00:12:15.940 It's a banana republic.

00:12:17.400 Right.

00:12:17.620 We are operating like a banana.

00:12:18.860 A rotten banana.

00:12:20.020 Yeah, right.

00:12:21.340 All right.

00:12:22.060 So let's you call this a Fed surrection.

00:12:27.820 Let's define that first.

00:12:30.460 Right.

00:12:30.720 Well, it's kind of just a catchy phrase.

00:12:34.040 But what do I mean specifically by that?

00:12:36.640 Do I mean that everybody who was at January 6th was a Fed?

00:12:41.000 No.

00:12:41.280 Do I mean there weren't legitimate people there for good reasons?

00:12:45.960 No.

00:12:46.560 Do I mean that there weren't Trump supporters who got out of hand and did very bad things and deserve to be punished?

00:12:51.940 No.

00:12:52.120 But what I mean is that without federal involvement, that rally could not have turned into the riot that it did.

00:13:03.600 And that there are a handful of critical actors who really were there on the scene before the crowd moved from Trump's speech to the Capitol at all.

00:13:15.000 We're doing things like cutting the fences, removing the barriers, positioning themselves in critical positions in order to have influence over the crowd.

00:13:24.300 And that had it not been for those critical actors, I don't think we would have had the riot that we've seen.

00:13:34.100 Do we know who those critical actors are?

00:13:36.720 Well, that's a great question.

00:13:38.140 Some of those people, we know their names.

00:13:40.740 Ray Epps, I think you've covered him extensively.

00:13:44.000 And by the way, if we have time, I'd like to get into the committee's report on Epps.

00:13:48.240 They released the interview that they did with him, and that was a whopper.

00:13:51.420 Let me tell you, there's some crazy stuff there.

00:13:54.040 But everyone's heard about Epps now, thankfully.

00:13:58.340 And I think most fair-minded people, at the very least, think something's a little bit off.

00:14:06.100 This guy is like, of all the people, this is the one guy caught on camera telling people to go into the Capitol in advance.

00:14:13.380 He's what they're looking for.

00:14:15.980 No, and not only that, but it's so funny.

00:14:19.040 So, he was originally put on one of the top 20 most wanted, FBI most wanted.

00:14:25.100 The New York Times did this big, scary story like, you know, the day of the insurrection.

00:14:30.600 And they featured Epps as one of the people that proves that there was a plan to go in in advance.

00:14:37.000 And then, all of a sudden, there's this 180 turn, this complete about face, where the New York Times, of all publications, does a fully dedicated puff piece to Ray Epps.

00:14:47.980 And now, all of a sudden, he's the darling, and Adam Kinzinger is effectively operating as his defense counsel in the interrogation.

00:14:55.200 And so, that's one thing.

00:14:56.580 But there are other people.

00:14:57.800 It's not just Epps.

00:14:59.120 Epps, at least we know who the guy is.

00:15:01.240 At least we know his name.

00:15:03.100 At least he's a known quantity.

00:15:05.120 I would say just as interesting, if not more so than Epps, is this individual that's referred to as scaffold commander.

00:15:13.640 Now, this is a very mysterious guy.

00:15:15.900 And if people go to Revolver News, there's sort of the classic piece where we have all the video of it, and they can see for themselves what he's doing.

00:15:24.200 But here's a guy who, like many of the others, was pre-positioned at the exact place at the exact time, right at that western perimeter where the first breach was.

00:15:37.220 He's cutting, fencing, all that.

00:15:39.840 But then, he just immediately rushes to the scaffold, climbs right on top, and he's got his bullhorn.

00:15:46.320 And he's saying, move forward, move forward, move forward.

00:15:49.460 He's playing just this huge role in crowd control.

00:15:52.120 And just as a matter of crowd psychology, if you're there in the crowd, you hear some authoritative voice with a bullhorn standing on top of the scaffold saying, move forward, we need your help.

00:16:03.880 In many cases, he said, we need your help.

00:16:05.680 So, if you're in the crowd, you think, okay, the barriers were cut down.

00:16:09.160 I don't know I'm even trespassing.

00:16:11.460 Number two, I hear this guy saying, move forward, we need your help.

00:16:14.780 Was someone injured in the crowd?

00:16:16.420 And they need the crowd to move away so that, you know, they could be medical assistants?

00:16:20.620 Who knows?

00:16:21.840 And then, when the Capitol building itself was breached, he was ordering people to go in, go in, go in.

00:16:31.160 And the amazing thing is, I would say this is the person who is more egregious than anybody else, other than perhaps Ray Epps.

00:16:39.780 He hasn't even been identified.

00:16:41.620 He didn't even make it.

00:16:42.240 How's that possible?

00:16:42.860 He didn't even make it to the most wanted list.

00:16:45.560 And let me tell you, I don't want to.

00:16:47.780 Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.

00:16:48.780 Hold it.

00:16:50.520 He's not identified as somebody who was orchestrating or pushing it through, or he just wasn't identified by name?

00:17:02.300 Both.

00:17:03.220 So, he didn't even mention, he wasn't.

00:17:05.240 No, he's not on any of the most wanted lists.

00:17:07.760 He's not, you know, wanted to any degree, as far as I'm aware, by the government, by the Department of Justice, and nobody knows his name.

00:17:16.900 He's simply referred to as a scaffold commander.

00:17:19.640 And I was going to say, I don't want to get into all of my methods and tricks, but I pulled out all the stops, all the stops to identify this guy, including, you know, cutting edge facial recognition stuff, the whole deal.

00:17:34.720 Nothing.

00:17:37.440 And, you know, he could have been wearing some type of prosthetic.

00:17:41.520 It's just, it's very weird.

00:17:43.600 I would love to know who this guy is.

00:17:47.680 It's one of the really key mysteries of the whole thing.

00:17:51.500 I suspect if he's, if his identity is actually uncovered, it's going to be one of the biggest scandals in the country.

00:17:57.740 I've dedicated a lot of resources to doing so.

00:18:00.440 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to identify him.

00:18:02.840 See, I have a, I have a really hard time.

00:18:05.500 I don't have a hard time with you saying I've used private resources and I've put my own money into it and I couldn't find it.

00:18:13.760 I have a very difficult time believing the United States government in a place where it's almost the all seeing eye.

00:18:22.780 Right.

00:18:23.020 That they had phone triangulate.

00:18:26.600 They have everything on everybody who was there.

00:18:30.640 Cannot find this guy.

00:18:33.440 Yeah.

00:18:34.000 It's, it's unbelievable.

00:18:35.640 And not only can they not find him, but they don't really even acknowledge his existence.

00:18:40.360 And you're right.

00:18:41.820 The government knows who this guy is.

00:18:43.940 If they want to know who he is, they know who he is.

00:18:46.640 Same thing with the pipe bomber. 0.72

00:18:48.160 You know, that's a whole deal that we've covered extensively, but just, I want to go, I want to go there.

00:18:53.460 But just for a quick point on the pipe bomber, we have the surveillance footage of the pipe bomber using his or her phone on the evening of January 5th.

00:19:05.400 There's nothing that's more of a slam dunk for geo-fencing capability is to find this person.

00:19:14.340 You have the, you have the place, you have the time.

00:19:16.480 It's not even crowded.

00:19:17.680 It's, it's a no brainer.

00:19:19.100 It's easy.

00:19:19.840 It's a layup.

00:19:20.660 And yet now they're still pretending like they have no idea.

00:19:25.840 And just to, just to, you know, keep up the pretenses.

00:19:30.560 I don't know if you saw, but the other day they said, we're increasing the reward for the pipe bomber to half a million dollars, like, which isn't even that big of a reward compared to others.

00:19:41.920 AOC, her life was in danger and that's only worth 500,000.

00:19:46.860 Her life was in danger and the funny thing is this person planted an explosive device outside of the national headquarters of the Democrats and the Democrats don't even care who this person is.

00:19:59.620 That's the biggest thing.

00:20:00.760 That's really weird.

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00:21:09.120 One of the things that is weird about the pipe bomb is, I mean, there's a litany of things, but one of them is the apparent sudden desire of Kamala Harris to want to leave the Capitol where all the swearing in is happening.

00:21:29.340 Right.

00:21:29.600 Leave the Capitol suddenly to go to the DNC where they happened to find the bomb.

00:21:39.580 Right.

00:21:39.920 And then Secret Service, they don't have any of the communication.

00:21:44.140 It's all been lost or destroyed.

00:21:46.880 Right.

00:21:47.320 I can't believe Secret Service, that's an odd coincidence.

00:21:51.900 Have you found any reason why she said she had to get to the DNC right at that time?

00:21:58.560 That, I have not.

00:22:00.800 But I think some additional detail is quite interesting.

00:22:05.320 First of all, she covered up the fact that she was in DNC building for over a year.

00:22:11.560 That was covered up.

00:22:13.360 And, you know, you think about it.

00:22:14.580 Really?

00:22:14.940 Yeah, no.

00:22:15.520 It was covered up for a whole year.

00:22:17.860 Now, that's really weird for a lot of reasons.

00:22:21.500 But the main reason is, look, they're trying to milk this J6 insurrection for everything it's worth. 1.00

00:22:28.560 Why would they forgo the opportunity to have the media amplify the danger of the insurrection by pointing out that the vice president-elect woman of color, you know, vice president-elect. 0.96

00:22:43.400 Was in danger.

00:22:44.120 Was, her life was in immediate danger.

00:22:47.600 Feet away.

00:22:48.060 By the white supremacists, MAGA, why would they forgo the opportunity to hammer that every single day to emphasize their narrative about January 6th being this big domestic terrorist?

00:23:04.040 That's the most terrorist-like thing that happened on January 6th are these explosive devices.

00:23:10.620 And yet, they covered up the fact that she was at the DNC for all of that time.

00:23:15.540 And, you know, Secret Service, interestingly, is under the purview of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:23:21.400 The Department of Homeland Security's main stooge in Congress is Benny Thompson, who's been the chair of the Homeland Security Committee for, I think, seven times.

00:23:30.000 Because Department of Homeland Security generally is the tip of the spear when it comes to this domestic war on terror that we've been talking about.

00:23:36.620 All just kind of interesting circumstantial data points, but interesting to keep in mind.

00:23:41.920 But she was under Secret Service protection.

00:23:44.840 Secret Service is on record saying that they did a sweep of the building, the entrances and exits and so forth.

00:23:51.220 So, we've identified the exact location where this was.

00:23:56.120 It's no more than 10 feet away from the parking garage and exits where the pipe bomb was planted.

00:24:02.900 So, the Secret Service, by their own admission on record, they swept the area.

00:24:07.740 They managed to miss the pipe bomb.

00:24:11.200 Were they both the same with the egg timer?

00:24:14.940 Yes.

00:24:15.220 Okay.

00:24:15.740 Yeah.

00:24:16.000 No, no.

00:24:16.300 They had these mechanical timers.

00:24:18.020 That's another story about how weird it is.

00:24:20.360 But just the DNC bomb, like the weird thing about the DNC bomb is that it wasn't found.

00:24:26.040 Because it wasn't hidden.

00:24:27.560 Yeah.

00:24:27.800 The weird thing about the RNC bomb is that it was found the exact minute when it had to be in order for things to work out.

00:24:34.640 Two of those things are independently so implausible as to be unbelievable.

00:24:39.180 And yet, they both had to occur in order for this whole thing to work out the way it did.

00:24:43.820 And the person who found the first pipe bomb at the RNC.

00:24:48.840 Right.

00:24:49.900 Who was she? 1.00

00:24:50.680 She was... 0.97

00:24:51.980 Carlin Younger.

00:24:53.360 So, she, you know, I'm going to just take them at their word for now and say, okay, this is a random pedestrian.

00:25:00.700 I'll just point this out.

00:25:01.700 She discovered the RNC pipe bomb at 12.40 p.m.

00:25:08.020 She reports that the pipe bomb with the mechanical timer that you described, the mechanical timer is stuck on 20 minutes.

00:25:17.140 So, she discovers the pipe bomb in this, like, ensconced in this back alley, not, like, immediately visible to anyone.

00:25:25.680 Just by happenstance, she stumbles upon it.

00:25:28.640 At 12.40, it's stuck on the dial 20 minutes left, such as to convey the exact impression, precisely, that it was set to go off at 1 p.m., which happened to be when the certification proceedings were to take place in Congress.

00:25:43.880 But if it was set there at 8 o'clock, and she didn't find it, I mean, it could have been set there at 8 o'clock to go off at 8.20.

00:25:52.900 Right.

00:25:53.220 You know what I mean?

00:25:53.840 Well, you know...

00:25:54.480 You're just making an assumption that it stopped the minute she found it.

00:25:58.940 Right.

00:25:59.340 Well, I mean, the assumption has to be...

00:26:03.320 I mean, what can you assume?

00:26:05.280 Because this was planted the evening before.

00:26:07.460 Correct.

00:26:07.780 So, what are the chances that she finds it to the exact minute...

00:26:13.380 Right.

00:26:13.500 The exact minute, when the timer is stuck on 20 minutes, she finds at 12.40, it has 20 minutes left, the certification proceeding is at 1, and the Ray Epps orchestrated attack on the western perimeter of the Capitol happens at 12.52.

00:26:31.960 And so, when she discovers this RNC pipe bomb at 12.40, she calls in, the Capitol police start responding literally a minute before the Ray Epps breach on the western perimeter.

00:26:45.020 So, it was the discovery of the RNC pipe bomb was so precisely coordinated both to the Ray Epps assault on the western perimeter and the certification proceeding that many officials, including the head of the Capitol police, Stephen Sund, reasonably concluded that the pipe bombs were there for diversionary purposes, to divert from the...

00:27:07.020 Divert resources that would have been used to stop the Capitol breach, which would seem sensible, but for the fact that it was discovered by a random pedestrian.

00:27:17.760 So, how is this pipe bomber who plants it the evening before going to be confident that it's going to be discovered to the exact minute to fulfill this diversionary purpose?

00:27:28.980 Right.

00:27:29.320 It doesn't make sense.

00:27:30.840 Nobody's asked these questions.

00:27:32.940 I mean, we're asking these questions, but...

00:27:34.600 Is this the same...

00:27:35.520 Do we know if it's the same person that put both bombs?

00:27:39.400 Because we have the one guy at the DNC.

00:27:41.980 Right.

00:27:42.460 He's there.

00:27:43.180 I mean, again, it's like the federal government is, you know, nailing people for future crimes.

00:27:52.060 Right.

00:27:52.200 But then when you have this really easy stuff, it's like they're stuck in 1956.

00:27:56.520 No, it's crazy.

00:27:57.920 And that's a great question.

00:28:00.240 We don't know exactly.

00:28:01.580 I think it is the same person.

00:28:03.260 And I think unless they completely fake the surveillance footage, it looks like the same person.

00:28:09.500 But what is weird is...

00:28:11.740 So, we talked about the RNC pipe bomb being discovered and the timing of it.

00:28:16.120 Totally implausible.

00:28:17.280 Totally bizarre.

00:28:18.280 But then on the DNC side, you know, it was sitting right there in the open.

00:28:22.860 It wasn't discovered with a Secret Service suite.

00:28:25.920 It wasn't discovered.

00:28:26.760 And think about this.

00:28:27.920 It was put there the evening before, allegedly.

00:28:31.180 And January 6th, the morning of, high foot traffic day, nobody saw it.

00:28:36.160 No DNC employees sitting at the park bench having a coffee saw it.

00:28:40.980 We proved we did a Google Street analysis.

00:28:43.460 We show that there's a regularly positioned physical security guard within 10 feet of where the pipe bomb was planted.

00:28:51.520 That person didn't see it.

00:28:53.580 And then the most elite protection detail in the world, the United States Secret Service, who's on record saying that they did the sweep of the entrance and exits.

00:29:03.420 They didn't find it.

00:29:04.660 They didn't find it.

00:29:05.780 And they're reporting that it had live explosive devices and the Secret Service dogs didn't.

00:29:10.980 And, you know, I would say the dogs must have had COVID that day because their sense of smell was screwed up.

00:29:16.020 They just couldn't smell basic.

00:29:17.680 Like, it just doesn't make any sense.

00:29:20.060 And, again, the DNC pipe bomb, think about it.

00:29:24.000 If that were discovered early in the morning, then the response would have to be, okay, something is up.

00:29:29.840 We need to up security everywhere.

00:29:32.140 And that could have foiled that Western attack. 0.66

00:29:34.800 So, it really had to be a bomb was discovered, like, right when the first attack occurred.

00:29:41.700 And that's exactly what happened.

00:29:43.380 And in order for that to happen, both the RNC pipe bomb had to be found under these incredibly bizarre and implausible circumstances.

00:29:50.380 And the DNC pipe bomb had not to be found under equally bizarre circumstances.

00:29:55.880 And it just happens to be, and this is, we prove this.

00:29:58.380 This is not, this is black or white.

00:30:00.400 We prove this.

00:30:01.120 The surveillance footage that the FBI released of the DNC pipe bomber fails to include the footage of the DNC pipe bomber actually putting down the bomb.

00:30:14.580 And we know that they have that footage because they've shown us footage from two different cameras.

00:30:19.740 One camera would have had a very good angle of the pipe bomber planting the bomb, and yet they show us footage from the other camera.

00:30:27.820 We know that they have both cameras because they've given us footage from both.

00:30:31.500 They just haven't given us the footage from the one that would show the pipe bomber planting it.

00:30:37.160 Why would they do that?

00:30:39.500 You know, I could say, I know for a fact that they're withholding it.

00:30:43.100 I don't know why they would, but certainly in light of some of the things that we've just been talking about, it is deeply suspicious.

00:30:51.220 And I think it warrants, you know, it's one thing to understand all these things and people are going to be listening to this saying, my God, this is so dark.

00:30:59.480 What in the world are we going to do about this?

00:31:01.400 And which is a good question.

00:31:03.420 I think you really need to focus, you know, it helps to focus on one specific agenda item.

00:31:11.560 And the item that I'm focusing on is I think we need the full chain of custody of that surveillance footage, and we need the full, raw, unedited footage released.

00:31:24.300 And the reason that this is—

00:31:26.580 And you're not talking about the Capitol.

00:31:27.780 You're just talking about the DNC.

00:31:29.020 Just the DNC footage because we've shown other things.

00:31:32.180 Like the footage has a frame rate of 1.2 frames per second.

00:31:36.620 Nobody, no security has ever had that frame rate, correct?

00:31:42.540 No.

00:31:42.880 I mean, even the bad, really bad stop kind of, you know.

00:31:47.340 It's hilarious, Glenn.

00:31:48.440 We did a study on it.

00:31:49.660 It's like even the most, you know—

00:31:53.840 Archaic.

00:31:54.700 Just trashy gas stations have a frame rate of 10 frames per second, usually more than that.

00:32:03.220 But you can't—you know, let's assume that they were going as cheap as possible.

00:32:08.160 And they're like, okay, we're the DNC headquarters.

00:32:11.220 We have VIPs who work here. 0.99

00:32:12.600 We have VIPs coming in and out.

00:32:14.720 We're in a city that's known for a very high violent crime rate.

00:32:17.980 There was a famous DNC staffer, Seth Rich, who was killed under some circumstances.

00:32:23.640 We'll just leave it at that.

00:32:24.780 An attempted break-in to the DNC, which was a different location, but still it was DNC, was, you know, spearheaded arguably the biggest political scandal in American history.

00:32:36.540 But we're just going to get the cheapest possible surveillance cameras, even if that were the case.

00:32:42.840 But you said—

00:32:43.180 You can't find 1.2 frames per second.

00:32:46.660 Because I read your article.

00:32:48.160 You have to go to an— 0.53

00:32:48.780 Like, eight frames per second is the lowest, right?

00:32:51.900 It's the lowest.

00:32:52.360 You'd have to go and find an antique store.

00:32:55.640 That's where you'd have to get it.

00:32:57.080 Maybe they found an antique store with, like, the, you know, two or three cameras that you could find with 1.2 frame rate.

00:33:04.720 It doesn't make any sense.

00:33:07.100 It's clearly degraded footage.

00:33:09.040 Yet another reason why we need the full unedited footage.

00:33:11.880 And you know what?

00:33:13.020 You know, there's all this stuff going on in the house now.

00:33:15.920 And, you know, we could talk about that if you like.

00:33:18.120 But these guys, they don't want to go further than they have to.

00:33:23.740 They're not going to do anything unless they're bullied into it.

00:33:27.180 And a lot of them, excepting a few real stalwarts, real brave people.

00:33:31.780 And by the way, I have to commend you for covering this because a lot of people are scared to touch this.

00:33:35.980 This is something people don't want to touch.

00:33:37.780 So I really commend you.

00:33:39.020 We don't have a republic if we don't have people like you researching it.

00:33:43.400 But you wouldn't bully a lot of people.

00:33:45.520 A lot of people in the news are scared to touch it.

00:33:47.520 And, you know, it's understandable.

00:33:49.080 But at a certain point, you just have to have courage.

00:33:50.820 You just got to say it.

00:33:52.060 And if there's a lack of courage in much of the commentariat, you know, forget about Congress.

00:33:58.360 But the thing is, the reason that this is so elegant with the security footage is you don't have to subscribe to this fedsurrection thesis to demand the footage.

00:34:08.520 You can simply say January 6th was a horrible day.

00:34:13.360 Planting pipe bombs is a horrible thing.

00:34:15.340 It's an act of terror where we support law and order.

00:34:18.640 And we want to find who this terrorist is, whoever it is.

00:34:21.480 And in order to do that, we're demanding the full unedited footage.

00:34:25.240 That's all you have to say.

00:34:26.180 You don't have to say the revolver thesis is right about fedsurrection.

00:34:29.740 It's so easy.

00:34:31.120 That's why, you know.

00:34:32.060 But you can't do that.

00:34:33.160 The FOIA doesn't apply because it's DNC, right?

00:34:36.380 So it's not a government.

00:34:38.320 Right.

00:34:38.840 It would have to be a court order that would force them to do it.

00:34:43.020 It's not the DNC, but the FBI has the footage.

00:34:46.100 Oh.

00:34:46.640 Yeah, I mean, it's released through the FBI.

00:34:48.840 That's the thing.

00:34:49.480 And, you know, a funny thing, which I definitely want to get in, is that the guy who was the 0.98

00:34:56.240 public face of the pipe bomb investigation, a real kind of third-rate scumbag called Stephen 0.96

00:35:02.660 D'Antuono, okay? 0.97

00:35:04.480 That name sounds familiar.

00:35:05.880 He was the public face of this pipe bomb investigation.

00:35:10.860 And he's begging people, please, you know, help us, help us this or that.

00:35:15.580 These are the guys that released the footage.

00:35:17.380 And so that's why the chain of custody is interesting.

00:35:20.040 Did it go from the DNC to some kind of third-party contractor multimedia company that somehow,

00:35:27.720 like, made the frame rate different?

00:35:30.640 You know, who knows?

00:35:32.340 And they can assuage these concerns simply by releasing the chain of custody in the full

00:35:36.960 footage.

00:35:37.300 But it is interesting that the public face of the whole pipe bomb investigation, who,

00:35:42.200 by the way, quietly resigned not too long ago.

00:35:47.020 Now, why would he do that?

00:35:48.600 You know, and let me tell you, it's even...

00:35:50.800 Wait, we have to first tell who he is.

00:35:52.800 Okay.

00:35:53.160 So people know.

00:35:54.120 Okay.

00:35:54.520 So this is a real beauty.

00:35:56.200 Because I say he quietly resigned, but he resigned as quietly as he was put in the position in the

00:36:01.660 first place, he started at the Detroit field office of the FBI, where he oversaw the entire

00:36:09.240 Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping operation.

00:36:14.860 Okay.

00:36:15.460 And, you know, even reporters on the far left, like BuzzFeed and others who have covered this

00:36:22.900 particular case, acknowledge that it's just rife with, you know, entrapment.

00:36:29.980 It's entrapment.

00:36:30.740 I mean, you know, that's a whole other issue, but something like, you know, over half of the

00:36:35.740 people, like, originally, you know, thought to be plotters turned out to be feds.

00:36:40.840 There were, you know, actual agents, and there's all kinds of bizarre stuff, like one of the

00:36:45.600 agents had to sort of drop out of getting testimony because he was caught, like, beating

00:36:50.300 his wife, and it's like, not high-quality people, like, just not high-quality people.

00:36:55.960 But that's a whole different story.

00:36:57.740 But it's so interesting, of all of the field agents who could have been handpicked and delivered

00:37:05.660 to this coveted position in Washington, the Washington field office, Christopher

00:37:10.600 Ray picks Stephen D'Antuono after having done his service overseeing the entrapment operation,

00:37:18.820 the Michigan case, which, by the way, people think of it as a kidnapping case.

00:37:22.340 It also involved a so-called plot to go into the Michigan state capitol.

00:37:28.220 So, it was a state capitol.

00:37:29.740 It involved one of the three main militia groups imputed to January.

00:37:34.620 So, there's so many interesting parallels there.

00:37:36.760 And right after, the day after these so-called plotters were arrested, Christopher Ray plucked

00:37:44.480 Stephen D'Antuono and said, hey, why don't you go run the D.C. field office?

00:37:48.320 This was like October.

00:37:49.880 So, in the months immediately leading up to January 6th and on to January 6th, this is the

00:37:55.460 guy who's running it.

00:37:56.640 And then, in the aftermath of...

00:37:59.680 Hang on, I just want to...

00:38:01.720 Let's just run through in your mind all of the amazing coincidence and timing.

00:38:09.620 Because I wouldn't want to go to Vegas.

00:38:12.400 Because this is...

00:38:14.020 These are impossible odds.

00:38:16.300 Right.

00:38:16.500 It's crazy odds, each event, one after another, after another, after another.

00:38:24.480 Absolutely.

00:38:25.460 And, you know, the funny thing is, we've been really hitting the pipe bomb thing hard, especially

00:38:30.000 our coverage of the surveillance footage and all the problems with that, because that really

00:38:34.360 is a black and white.

00:38:35.520 You know, we know that they have the footage of the pipe bomb replanting the bomb.

00:38:39.440 They didn't release it.

00:38:40.260 Why?

00:38:40.620 We know that it has a frame rate of 1.2 frames per second.

00:38:43.600 Why?

00:38:44.260 Like, these are...

00:38:45.520 The advantage of these things is that they're simply objective and verifiable.

00:38:50.360 You can't deny that.

00:38:52.140 It's out there in the public domain.

00:38:54.340 And so, yeah, Stephen D'Antonio just resigns.

00:38:58.700 And I've talked to people in the FBI, some current and some former, and they say, look, nobody

00:39:04.880 resigns from that position.

00:39:07.100 That is a climber position.

00:39:09.000 That is the penultimate step before going to the coveted floor in the Hoover Building.

00:39:17.880 I think it's the seventh floor where everybody wants to go.

00:39:20.540 That's, you know, that's where McCabe was and all these other guys.

00:39:23.940 That's...

00:39:24.460 You're in the bullpen waiting to be a big guy.

00:39:27.280 And all of a sudden, he just quietly resigns.

00:39:30.260 And now he's an accountant at KPMG.

00:39:34.980 Oh, my gosh.

00:39:36.640 That's his payoff is an accountant at KPMG.

00:39:39.960 But the thing is, is maybe it makes sense because when doing this reporting, like, part

00:39:44.840 of it and, you know, just to get a feel for things is you got to read people's body language

00:39:49.480 and see what they're all about and get a sense of what's going on internally.

00:39:53.880 And some people are just quote unquote killers.

00:39:58.200 Some people say, okay, here's a person who can hold really heavy, dark secrets on their

00:40:04.080 shoulders like it's nothing because they're made for that.

00:40:07.020 And they've been doing it for decades.

00:40:09.700 I think, you know, someone like Mike Chertoff is one of those guys.

00:40:12.800 And I say that with some degree of respect. 0.75

00:40:14.940 He's a gangster.

00:40:16.180 You know, he's, oh, what an interesting life.

00:40:19.540 I'd love to have dinner with that guy.

00:40:21.520 I said to him, I interviewed him maybe 2002, 2003.

00:40:26.880 And it was terrifying.

00:40:28.560 And he said to me, we were off air and somebody picked up their cell phone.

00:40:36.440 And he looked at me and he said, you don't have a cell phone, do you?

00:40:40.080 And I said, yeah, don't you? 1.00

00:40:45.340 And he said, only morons carry a cell phone. 0.99

00:40:51.580 If people, this is 2002 or three. 0.99

00:40:54.080 If people knew what could be tracked and done with your cell phone, no one would ever carry.

00:41:01.740 I said, how do you run an operation as big as you do without?

00:41:05.460 He said, I use email at my desk.

00:41:08.500 Like, that was, that's years before the iPhone.

00:41:13.840 Right.

00:41:14.460 No, I mean, this is, I'd love to have a separate conversation all about this.

00:41:18.840 And you know what, it is somewhat comforting because I think one common feature in our politics

00:41:24.840 generally is people are, you know, there's the injury that they're all corrupt. 0.99

00:41:31.000 But the insult is that they're so clownish. 0.99

00:41:33.980 They're just not serious people. 0.86

00:41:35.320 And so every now and then I kind of cling on to the people who do have gravitas and Chertoff

00:41:41.820 is one of them.

00:41:42.820 I don't think he's a good guy, but at least like if you're going to have a villain, have

00:41:47.420 a, have a serious one.

00:41:49.200 And, and he's one of these guys, but I just, I just paint him.

00:41:53.360 I agree with you on that, but they're in charge of the entire mechanism.

00:41:59.740 Yes. 0.87

00:42:00.260 You know, so it's, so they might be clowns and you might think, how can these guys not 0.84

00:42:04.920 get caught? 0.86

00:42:05.640 They've been caught.

00:42:06.640 Right.

00:42:07.080 I mean, over and over and over and over again.

00:42:10.240 Right.

00:42:10.540 But they'll use those weapons against us as individuals who are saying, wait a minute,

00:42:15.240 constitutional.

00:42:16.300 Let's look at the law here.

00:42:18.200 Right.

00:42:18.400 Let's make sure everybody is punished equally.

00:42:21.260 They don't care.

00:42:22.640 They don't care. 0.64

00:42:23.800 And just for clarification, I don't think Chertoff is a clown.

00:42:26.860 I think he's very serious.

00:42:28.120 He's one of the few very serious people left in the country, but I think he's, he's on the

00:42:33.520 wrong side.

00:42:34.220 But he's, he's, I give him as an example of someone who routinely carries some of the 0.99

00:42:39.080 darkest secrets imaginable on his shoulders.

00:42:41.280 And that's just his life.

00:42:42.980 He's built for it.

00:42:44.160 He can handle it.

00:42:45.820 Steven D'Antuono, not so much.

00:42:49.200 Here's someone who had the look of just complete anxiety, complete sort of guilty conscience.

00:42:57.480 He got in over his head.

00:42:59.440 He is terrified.

00:43:01.840 He just couldn't handle it.

00:43:03.040 And, um, you know, so maybe he belongs at KPMG, like, and maybe he's gotten the first

00:43:09.380 good night's sleep of his life for a long time, but he just couldn't handle it.

00:43:13.960 He gave off so much, uh, a guilty energy, guilty body language.

00:43:19.160 Um, and, uh, somebody is in something like this.

00:43:22.920 I mean, I've said to my wife before, no, she, she said it to me.

00:43:26.280 She's like, I feel like we're living Jason Bourne's life.

00:43:29.720 You know, there've been moments in my life where things have, I've witnessed things and

00:43:34.200 things have happened and you're like, what, this is, I mean, this happens in movies.

00:43:39.020 This isn't real.

00:43:40.200 Right.

00:43:40.600 And the people who are, you know, the professionals in that are like, where do you think those

00:43:45.660 things come from?

00:43:46.760 You don't think those things happen.

00:43:48.580 Right.

00:43:49.400 This is, he's a guy that if this was a big conspiracy in a movie, he'd be dead.

00:43:55.680 Right.

00:43:56.280 Wouldn't he?

00:43:57.220 If you're saying he can't carry this.

00:43:59.420 Well, he can't carry it, but you know, he's, he's expendable in the sense that they just

00:44:04.120 get rid of him.

00:44:04.840 But I don't think they'll, you know, in a certain degree, I was worried about Epps.

00:44:09.400 Like, you know, if Epps steps out of line, um.

00:44:13.540 Who is he?

00:44:14.460 Do you think?

00:44:15.100 And by the way, make sure you delineate between your opinion and what we know.

00:44:21.480 Right.

00:44:21.960 Okay.

00:44:22.160 So, boy, there's, there, my actual hypothesis about Epps is something that is not even,

00:44:30.900 we can talk off the record about that because it's, it's very interesting.

00:44:35.320 But, um, you know, Epps is from a Marine background.

00:44:39.680 Um, that's about all we know about him.

00:44:41.780 He had a, a barn, uh, in the, in the Southwest in Arizona.

00:44:45.520 He's lived in Queen Creek for a while.

00:44:47.640 Um, and, uh, he's been, he was head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers group, which

00:44:55.320 again, it's like, you'd think the Oath Keepers group was the most heavily prosecuted militia

00:45:00.620 group in relation to January 6th.

00:45:03.320 Why wouldn't they jump at the opportunity to say, here's an Oath Keeper guy who's telling

00:45:09.040 people to go into the Capitol.

00:45:10.460 And you know, the thing is, and they have him sending a text message to his nephew saying,

00:45:15.620 I orchestrated it exact quote verbatim, nothing.

00:45:19.220 And just to get to the, his explanation on that is we joke like that, right?

00:45:24.100 No, it's so funny.

00:45:25.620 I encourage everybody, if you can go and actually read the January 6th transcript of their interview

00:45:32.980 with Ray Epps, because, you know, it's interesting.

00:45:37.280 Some of the people on the committee asked surprisingly good questions, better questions, for instance,

00:45:43.760 than the New York Times guy who did a profile of Ray Epps and basically asked nothing remotely

00:45:49.140 relevant to what Epps was doing.

00:45:50.920 It was literally just a puff piece.

00:45:52.820 A sob story about how Revolver News and like Tucker Carlson were destroying his life from

00:45:58.660 these conspiracy theories.

00:45:59.920 No question pertaining to the substance of those theories whatsoever.

00:46:03.560 And a sob story with a picture of him standing in front of a trailer.

00:46:07.100 We know that he sold his ranch for over $2 million.

00:46:09.580 He's, he's not exactly a destitute.

00:46:14.720 But the J6 committee thing, he's caught in so many lies.

00:46:17.700 So first of all, he said, they said, why, why were you there in the first place at BLM

00:46:21.560 Plaza and the evening of the fifth, you know, what, what put you there in the first place?

00:46:26.000 And he said, you know, I heard rumors that people were insulting the police and I just wanted

00:46:31.400 to make sure that I could pacify the crowd.

00:46:33.740 So I needed to be there to pacify the crowd.

00:46:36.300 And then they say, okay, well, what about all this stuff about telling people to go into

00:46:40.840 the Capitol?

00:46:41.520 What was that about?

00:46:42.760 You're on video, not pacifying.

00:46:44.300 No, you're on video.

00:46:45.160 What is that about?

00:46:46.880 He said, you know, I mean, the chutzpah of this guy is amazing.

00:46:51.460 He says, you know, I thought it was legal.

00:46:55.300 I thought the Capitol would be open and they would just open the doors for us, which is actually

00:46:59.740 an interesting statement, given the fact that there is footage of, you know, in some

00:47:03.560 cases, the police actually opening the doors for people.

00:47:06.580 But his answer was, I thought it would be totally legal.

00:47:08.760 The Capitol would be open and they just opened the doors.

00:47:10.940 But that's not the spirit of what he was saying there.

00:47:13.240 But you're absolutely right.

00:47:15.240 And then, but he said, I thought it was legal.

00:47:16.700 Well, if you look at the video, he very carefully and methodically, in this seemingly rehearsed

00:47:24.360 fashion, prefaces both exhortations by saying, I'm probably going to get arrested for this.

00:47:31.240 I'm probably going to go to jail for this, but we need to go into the Capitol.

00:47:35.260 He says that both times.

00:47:37.660 So if you thought it was legal, why are you going to say, I'm probably going to get arrested

00:47:41.400 for this?

00:47:41.940 And he said, you know, I don't know.

00:47:43.820 That was just a poor choice of words.

00:47:46.320 And they said, so what brought you to DC in the first place?

00:47:49.300 He said, well, you know, my son really wanted to attend the Trump speech and my wife was

00:47:53.860 worried about him.

00:47:54.540 So my wife made me go to look after my son.

00:47:57.080 Well, number one, he skips this Trump speech entirely and instead goes directly to the Capitol

00:48:03.480 before everyone else.

00:48:05.020 He's telling people to go to the Capitol after the speech.

00:48:08.040 And he positions himself at the exact place at the exact time of the first breach.

00:48:12.600 Secondly, he abandons his son.

00:48:14.140 I was going to say, where's his son?

00:48:15.420 He abandons his son.

00:48:16.560 They ask him about it.

00:48:17.400 He say, I don't know.

00:48:18.680 There's the famous clip when he's telling people to go into the Capitol.

00:48:22.380 The crowd, you know, to their credit, immediately understood there was something off with this

00:48:27.080 guy.

00:48:27.360 So they chanted, fed, fed, fed.

00:48:29.080 So the committee members asked him, so what about that chant?

00:48:31.980 This is the remarkable part.

00:48:33.460 He said, you know, I don't remember that chant.

00:48:36.380 And my son says he doesn't remember that chant.

00:48:39.900 I don't think it happened.

00:48:41.220 I think that was doctored footage.

00:48:43.160 Oh, my God.

00:48:43.580 Are you sure?

00:48:44.720 Oh, my God.

00:48:46.060 This is the level of delusion.

00:48:47.540 And there's another, the part that I was most impressed by with the committee was, he

00:48:53.180 says, by the time I got to that breach location by the bike racks and everything, that's when

00:48:59.580 it occurred to me, okay, it's not okay to go into the Capitol and I abandon any idea of

00:49:04.220 going in there at that point.

00:49:06.060 Well, unfortunately, there's video that Revolver.news released of him telling another guy who's an

00:49:13.600 interesting character in his own right, known to researchers as Maroon Proudboy, he's carrying

00:49:18.300 bear spray.

00:49:19.120 He tells him, when we go in, leave this here, referring to the bear spray.

00:49:24.720 We don't want to get shot.

00:49:26.280 And so I was thinking that immediately because, you know, we released that video.

00:49:30.960 But amazingly, somebody in the committee knew about that video and said, what about the

00:49:35.920 video of you saying when we go in?

00:49:38.880 And he said, oh, I don't really remember that.

00:49:41.040 And by the way, just a side point, I don't want to get too sidetracked on this, but that

00:49:46.860 thing where he says, when we go in, leave this here, in a different context, in a different

00:49:51.440 prosecution, there were two people, one called Cater and one called Tanios, and they were

00:49:58.800 actually charged with very serious conspiracy charges for saying, no, no, not yet, when someone

00:50:06.280 said, is it time to use the bear spray?

00:50:08.880 So to say, no, no, not yet, the yet presumably indicating that there was some kind of intention

00:50:14.740 to use in the future, that was considered enough for a major conspiracy charge.

00:50:19.740 And yet they have Epps on camera with everything else saying, when we go in, leave this here

00:50:25.400 to another guy who actually did go in and he did a bunch of destructive stuff.

00:50:29.720 So, I mean, what else can we say?

00:50:32.960 The Epps stuff is obvious.

00:50:34.440 The Epps stuff is dark.

00:50:35.600 Will we ever get to the very bottom of it?

00:50:37.860 It's hard given, you know, some of the things I think he might be involved in.

00:50:43.500 I would love to, you know, really get to the bottom of it.

00:50:46.740 I think in terms of actually getting results, I think the pipe bomb stuff might be more fruitful 1.00

00:50:54.480 area, at least as far as subpoenas go, just because it's kind of a mechanical black or white

00:50:59.920 issue, it's easier for the politician to say, we just want the footage.

00:51:04.800 Why doesn't the DNC want the full run on edited footage?

00:51:08.340 And then based on what that reveals, that might create the necessary pressure to get the full

00:51:14.660 story on Epps.

00:51:16.400 Man, there are so many bad guys that you have to pay attention to.

00:51:19.780 Can I just get somebody else to pay attention to the bad guys just for a little while?

00:51:23.600 Well, yes, if we're talking about locking down your home title, saving your home.

00:51:32.040 Listen to one of the former bad guys who was a home title thief.

00:51:37.020 Nobody thinks that I can take their house and borrow against the house.

00:51:39.940 Oh, no, I have title insurance for that.

00:51:42.080 No, it's in my name.

00:51:43.400 Or he would have to get some special document.

00:51:45.660 They would call me.

00:51:47.060 You know what he's calling you?

00:51:48.700 After I've stolen the title, borrowed against it, or sold the property, or done whatever

00:51:52.560 I've done with it, it's 60 to 90 days to even figure out that they're the victim of

00:51:56.920 this crime.

00:51:57.440 You know, by that point, you start getting foreclosure notices, and you realize you've

00:52:01.280 got four mortgages on your house.

00:52:02.940 Not only that, you don't even own your home anymore.

00:52:04.960 It's not even in your name.

00:52:06.460 If hearing it from the horse's mouth doesn't motivate you, I don't know what will.

00:52:10.700 This kind of stuff happens all the time, and it's getting more frequent.

00:52:13.940 It could literally be happening to you right now, and you might not even know about it.

00:52:19.320 They may be long gone, and you won't know until the sheriff knocks on your door.

00:52:25.340 Home title fraud is growing two and a half times faster than credit card fraud.

00:52:29.900 So please, check it out just to make sure that your home's title is still in your name.

00:52:35.400 Just go to hometitlelock.com, use the promo code radio, and register your address for a

00:52:41.220 no-obligation home title report.

00:52:43.260 It's $100 value free.

00:52:45.240 It's hometitlelock.com, promo code radio.

00:52:49.600 So, theories.

00:52:55.680 Was there a mastermind of this?

00:52:59.360 When do you think this started percolating?

00:53:03.560 Because they're supposedly, in January 6th committee, looking for who are the ringleaders,

00:53:08.580 who are the kingpins, and how long had this been going on?

00:53:12.900 So, if it is some sort of an operation made to make the Trump people look bad, who do you

00:53:25.800 think was responsible?

00:53:27.620 How far up the chain of command do you think this goes?

00:53:30.620 And where does it go?

00:53:32.220 Which agency?

00:53:33.440 Right.

00:53:33.700 No, that's a great question, and just, you know, this is highly speculative territory,

00:53:39.300 so I can just give my best guess.

00:53:42.660 I think that, you know, first of all, all of these militia groups, they're so heavily

00:53:48.360 infiltrated, it's insane.

00:53:50.100 Like, it came out that the number two guy at Oath Keepers was an FBI informant.

00:53:56.780 So many of the Proud Boys, like, including the top guy, had relationships with the FBI.

00:54:01.040 Why did they even make it to the Capitol?

00:54:04.320 If they're not active informants, then they're being surveilled in any way.

00:54:09.280 Like, there's just no way the government isn't tracking, they don't know what's going on with

00:54:14.160 these groups.

00:54:15.040 It came out that multiple Proud Boys were being surveilled, and Proud Boys informants were

00:54:19.340 informing the FBI in real time as January 6th unfolded. 0.94

00:54:23.240 Um, so the idea that they were just completely caught off guard is absolute rubbish.

00:54:30.160 They knew something was going to happen, and people can conclude for themselves why there

00:54:34.840 was uniquely poor security on that day.

00:54:37.740 Now, I think in addition to that, the sort of let it happen on purpose aspect, there were

00:54:43.640 certain pockets of groups that, again, like I said, played key roles in allowing for it

00:54:50.120 to turn into a riot.

00:54:51.860 Certain things like crowd control, people like Epps directing people to the Capitol, planting

00:54:58.580 the idea of going in, people like the scaffold commander who is exercising sort of crowd control

00:55:04.920 from the top of the scaffold, telling people to move forward, positioning themselves for

00:55:09.580 this to happen.

00:55:11.000 Um, and then, of course, cutting all the fencing and barriers so people trespass not even knowing

00:55:15.800 that they were committing a crime, because usually it's not a crime to be in that specific

00:55:20.120 area of the Capitol, only on that day they were.

00:55:22.800 So, all of these things kind of created the opportunity for this to happen.

00:55:27.480 What organization ran this?

00:55:30.460 That's an excellent question.

00:55:33.240 I have strong suspicions about the Department of Homeland Security.

00:55:37.960 Um, the Department of Homeland Security has been really the tip of the spear as far as this

00:55:42.440 domestic war on terror goes.

00:55:44.960 Department of Homeland Security, you know, there's a lot of talk about the FBI, and I

00:55:48.480 think people like D'Antuono and Ray know what was going on.

00:55:52.820 But actually, you know, as bad as the FBI is, the fact that it's a law enforcement agency

00:56:00.280 and there are all sorts of protocols and constraints that go with law enforcement, that shackles you

00:56:06.660 a lot more than simply an intelligence group.

00:56:09.760 And the DHS is not a law enforcement agency.

00:56:12.940 And this gets to another interesting thing, if you'll pardon a digression about Epps.

00:56:18.480 So, Ray Epps is a lawyer who happens to be a nine-year veteran of the Phoenix FBI field

00:56:25.220 office.

00:56:26.180 Ray Epps' lawyer has consistently and emphatically and explicitly denied Ray Epps' involvement with

00:56:35.740 law enforcement.

00:56:36.500 And it's very interesting, even if you look at the January 6th committee transcript, there's

00:56:41.320 this really heavy sort of legalistic leaning on the term law enforcement.

00:56:46.540 He's not a member of a law enforcement agency.

00:56:48.780 Law enforcement.

00:56:49.420 Well, I don't think he is.

00:56:52.460 But the DHS is not a law enforcement agency.

00:56:55.520 Military intelligence is not a law enforcement agency.

00:56:58.040 Not to mention any of the other kind of cutout contractor type arrangements.

00:57:03.480 And so, it's like, and especially, you know, one time the lawyer was asked, so you say he's

00:57:09.040 not a member of a law enforcement agency.

00:57:10.760 He says, absolutely not.

00:57:11.760 And then they say, well, is he involved with any government agency?

00:57:15.040 And he says, not to my knowledge.

00:57:16.920 So, the, you know, when a lawyer says that, like, if he just said, not to my knowledge

00:57:21.860 about everything, then he wouldn't really be giving information.

00:57:25.260 But if he's so precise about law enforcement and then asked about, well, what about any government

00:57:32.340 agency?

00:57:32.820 And then says, not to my knowledge, either he's lying or he told Epps, whatever else you were

00:57:37.980 into, I don't want to know.

00:57:40.420 We said at the same time.

00:57:42.920 So, let me go back here for a second.

00:57:46.580 I have seen this as some bad characters around the country that would have really not posed

00:57:58.320 any threat.

00:57:59.820 I mean, it would have, you know, it would have been sloppy, sloppier than it already was.

00:58:03.840 It would have been sloppy, but it wouldn't have turned into really anything.

00:58:07.980 Um, especially not something as bad as the Civil War.

00:58:12.720 Um, uh, and, and then people like Ray Epps, uh, get involved and they are making things

00:58:23.020 worse and they might be working for some dark agency or something like that.

00:58:30.660 Right.

00:58:30.900 But, but generally speaking, it wasn't planned.

00:58:35.080 It was used.

00:58:36.760 I think so.

00:58:39.360 I mean, you know, this gets to really interesting question about like how the structure of these

00:58:43.920 things work, where, where's the zone where stuff actually happens.

00:58:48.380 And it's hard to know because there's so little visibility into it.

00:58:53.600 I think these intelligence bureaucracies are so bloated and dysfunctional that I don't for

00:59:00.400 a second imagine any kind of, you know, conventional hierarchical sort of top down plan.

00:59:07.200 I think within these agencies, there are sort of subgroups and networks that, you know, probably

00:59:13.540 even doing this for a long time.

00:59:15.380 You know, in the case of Ray Epps, if you've seen these videos, he's actually very impressive.

00:59:19.620 He, he's an expert in crowd control.

00:59:21.880 He knows what he's doing, you know, and this isn't their first rodeo.

00:59:25.860 And the case of Merrick Garland, this isn't his first rodeo.

00:59:29.460 I know a lot of people have forgotten.

00:59:30.740 And he was in charge of the, quote unquote, domestic terrorism portfolio going way back

00:59:37.160 to the nineties under Clinton and the DOJ.

00:59:39.940 And I mean, I don't want to, you know, make anyone uncomfortable, but there are a lot of

00:59:45.600 questions, frankly, about the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:59:47.960 I'll just leave it at that.

00:59:49.620 And he was in charge of that.

00:59:50.880 And he was in charge of that.

00:59:52.060 And in fact, he was one of the main cleanup guys for that, as was Eric Holder, incidentally.

00:59:57.220 And so this thing goes back really far and, you know, it's interesting to get into all

01:00:03.640 these details, but I think the details are only so important if we don't have the broader

01:00:08.260 framework.

01:00:09.040 And so it's like, what does it tell us about our government?

01:00:11.320 What kind of system do we live in?

01:00:13.200 Well, for one, it tells us that the national security state is, I think, the chief bottleneck

01:00:17.840 to political progress.

01:00:19.160 And unless we bring that to heel, politics would basically be fake and performative.

01:00:25.360 And secondly, I don't think these actors really reinvent the playbook all that much.

01:00:32.620 You know, it's in many ways, the same kind of people doing the same things.

01:00:37.120 And the idea that, you know, January 6, it could have been a fedsurrection in the sense

01:00:43.620 that I've been talking about, that really isn't that shocking when you think of what our

01:00:48.840 actual history is.

01:00:50.160 And, you know, they're doing what they've been doing for a long time.

01:00:55.420 And, you know, maybe it is time.

01:00:57.580 I think it is time for a church-style committee to uncover all these abuses.

01:01:02.720 The only problem is, how do you get the people who are capable of doing that?

01:01:08.480 And how deep does it go?

01:01:11.480 Can you actually cut the cancer out?

01:01:14.520 Right.

01:01:14.720 Because, I mean, it seems like it has spread to all of our lymph nodes.

01:01:22.440 Right.

01:01:23.600 I was talking to a researcher, a scholar, academic, who has spent his life with the JFK papers.

01:01:34.800 Interesting.

01:01:35.240 And, you know, they just failed to release some more.

01:01:40.720 Oh, boy.

01:01:41.460 And what they didn't release, I was talking to him and he said, this is all the CIA stuff.

01:01:48.160 The only thing that's left is the CIA stuff.

01:01:50.460 And they knew, they knew.

01:01:53.780 I'm not saying that they planned the shooting, but they knew who he was.

01:01:58.580 He was an operative for the CIA, et cetera, et cetera.

01:02:01.820 And they don't want it to come out because they don't want the CIA besmirched.

01:02:06.780 I'm like, well, you can't besmirch them more than they've already besmirched themselves.

01:02:10.160 But I said to him, because he brought up the church committee.

01:02:15.140 And I said, but, you know, if they were involved in Kennedy, they were involved again in Watergate.

01:02:25.600 And we know how that happened.

01:02:28.280 And now they're again involved in whatever is going on here.

01:02:34.320 Right. 0.97

01:02:35.460 He went livid, like bat crap crazy on me for a second. 0.97

01:02:42.060 Stopped me. 0.93

01:02:43.320 Don't you compare what happened in Watergate and JFK with January 6th.

01:02:50.100 Really?

01:02:50.740 Yeah.

01:02:51.060 Went nuts.

01:02:52.020 Wow.

01:02:52.240 And I said, OK, well, I'm not, you know, I'm not you.

01:02:58.180 So I don't know what you have.

01:02:59.540 We can keep it about JFK.

01:03:01.000 But I just find it hard to believe that you don't see any parallels.

01:03:06.480 None.

01:03:07.600 Right.

01:03:08.380 How?

01:03:09.560 Imagine what he thought when Biden compared to the Civil War.

01:03:13.340 Yeah.

01:03:13.820 No, it's really interesting.

01:03:16.020 No, the JFK stuff is interesting.

01:03:17.520 I did an interview with Trump recently and asked him about this.

01:03:22.260 And because, you know, originally he was really pushing for the documents to come out.

01:03:26.080 Some of them did.

01:03:28.020 But, you know, he acknowledged it somewhat reluctantly.

01:03:32.180 But he acknowledged that, you know, Pompeo was really leading the pushback against this.

01:03:38.380 And, you know, it's it's probably very embarrassing for the CIA.

01:03:44.880 It's probably very embarrassing. 0.88

01:03:46.220 It's almost it almost makes you think that whatever comes out, if they're if they're fighting it so hard, they would probably fight something that exposes incompetence and make them look like clowns.

01:03:57.620 And they probably like all of these Hollywood shows that portray like CIA people as these like highly effective James Bond guys.

01:04:05.900 I don't know if it's been like that for a while.

01:04:07.960 Maybe maybe during the JFK period, that was sort of the last throw of the CIA's competence.

01:04:15.620 I think now there are some foreign agencies that are competent CIA, maybe not so much.

01:04:21.660 But no, you're you're absolutely right.

01:04:24.100 This is this is the front and center issue.

01:04:26.800 This is the chief bottleneck to progress.

01:04:28.920 And, you know, we have also have to understand this in the broader context of the fact that we have this very same national security apparatus trying to gin us up for a new Cold War with China. 0.52

01:04:40.540 And so there's this weird situation.

01:04:42.820 And Russia and Russia. 0.71

01:04:44.740 There's a weird situation.

01:04:46.320 People on the right were domestically.

01:04:48.940 They're the whipping boy of the national security state.

01:04:51.820 But then on the national security say, OK, we're we're going to suspend whipping you for two seconds so you can go and put on the uniform and fight our enemies in China.

01:05:01.440 It's like it's such a weird thing.

01:05:03.440 And frankly, I think I think right now, though, I mean, you know, your background is political philosophy.

01:05:09.060 So I think everything is in flux.

01:05:12.880 I mean, I'm a conservative since Reagan.

01:05:15.260 Right.

01:05:15.940 But.

01:05:17.560 The Glenn Beck of 20 or 2000 to the Glenn Beck of 2023, completely different.

01:05:24.380 Yeah.

01:05:24.580 I mean, I was a hey, peace through strength.

01:05:28.440 Go teach them a lesson.

01:05:30.260 You know what I mean?

01:05:31.060 Right.

01:05:31.320 And I still am peace through strength.

01:05:33.260 But I'm not for whatever you're doing over there.

01:05:37.340 That's your business.

01:05:38.500 Right.

01:05:39.040 Don't screw with us and we won't screw with you.

01:05:43.500 We keep doing the same things over and over again.

01:05:46.540 And the left and the right have switched places on so many things.

01:05:53.140 You know, I was for the Patriot Act for maybe a couple of months.

01:05:57.180 Right.

01:05:57.420 Until I kind of really thought, oh, you know, they'll never give that power back.

01:06:03.680 Right.

01:06:04.160 But the people who were against the Patriot Act are now for all the things that are happening.

01:06:10.200 The people who were against all of these foreign wars are now seemingly wanting all of these things.

01:06:17.460 Right.

01:06:17.500 And I don't mean the traditional politician, but I think the average person knows none of this has worked in the past.

01:06:29.840 And what we're doing now is not working.

01:06:33.300 And what both sides are offering is just a path to hell.

01:06:37.200 Right.

01:06:38.140 No, it seems like a kind of fundamental incongruence whereby so many Americans who are probably on the conservative side of things, they face day to day demoralization propaganda, effectively treated as domestic terrorists.

01:06:55.640 And yet these are going to be the people that the national security state will expect to fight and die for Taiwan.

01:07:02.460 You know, how how long is a situation like that sustainable?

01:07:05.860 Maybe the propaganda is so good it is sustainable.

01:07:08.720 I don't think so.

01:07:09.720 I will tell you this.

01:07:11.160 I have never had a problem with one of my children wanting to go into the military.

01:07:17.180 My son is asked.

01:07:18.460 I think about going to the military.

01:07:19.880 Nope.

01:07:20.520 Right.

01:07:21.100 Nope.

01:07:22.320 I don't trust the military at all. 0.91

01:07:24.720 I don't want you on some foreign adventure doing crap that you shouldn't be doing. 0.99

01:07:29.320 No. 0.98

01:07:29.960 Right.

01:07:30.660 I mean, that is astounding.

01:07:34.440 Right.

01:07:34.720 Coming from a guy like me who has supported the military my entire life.

01:07:38.800 Right.

01:07:39.000 And, you know, it's to your great credit because it is an uncomfortable thing, because I think especially for conservatives dispositionally, we want to venerate these institutions.

01:07:47.420 We want to venerate the military.

01:07:48.800 We even want to venerate, you know, DOJ, FBI, maybe even CIA.

01:07:54.360 You know, we want to venerate all these.

01:07:56.420 But to understand that they're they're not only corrupt, they're actively hostile.

01:08:01.220 And that's what it's not.

01:08:02.740 To me, it's not.

01:08:04.960 They can call me whatever I whatever they want.

01:08:07.020 But to me, I have I mean, I've had the FBI in my house because one of my kids was involved in somebody was trying to kidnap one of my kids.

01:08:18.800 And so I had the FBI in my house and I respect them.

01:08:22.020 Right.

01:08:22.660 But I thought about this a lot in the last couple of years.

01:08:25.360 I'm not sure I would trust the FBI even in my house at this point.

01:08:29.340 You know, whatever they needed.

01:08:30.640 You got it.

01:08:31.480 You got it.

01:08:32.700 Now I'm suspect.

01:08:34.640 I'm suspect on everything.

01:08:37.440 Anyone attached to the government does.

01:08:40.820 And I don't want to venerate these institutions unless they're constitutional.

01:08:46.660 I venerate venerated them because I believed we were following.

01:08:52.500 We were doing the things that we all told each other we were doing.

01:08:57.780 I don't think we've done that in a very long time.

01:09:01.820 Absolutely.

01:09:03.280 And, you know, you see all of this cheap rhetoric coming from a lot of politicians who will again, you know, I think the situation in China is very bad.

01:09:12.620 We don't want to become like China. 0.99

01:09:14.320 That's the one thing.

01:09:15.240 But they point their fingers at China.

01:09:17.160 They're so comfortable talking about, oh, look what's going on with the Uyghurs. 1.00

01:09:21.660 Look what's going on with the oppression in China, which is fine. 0.99

01:09:24.680 Like there's nothing wrong with that.

01:09:25.940 But if you're going to talk about that and not talk about January 6th, if you're going to talk about that and not talk about the situation our own country is in, it almost seems like these foreign policy things like, you know, China and definitely Russia are just a distraction from the fact that no one knows what to do with this national security state problem.

01:09:46.220 They're terrified to touch it.

01:09:47.580 And so they can sound tough saying, oh, look at there.

01:09:51.120 Look at what's going on in China.

01:09:52.680 Look how bad the CHICOMs are. 1.00

01:09:54.300 And meanwhile, FBI raids another, you know, innocent family for having been within a mile of the Capitol on January 6th.

01:10:02.080 It's a farce.

01:10:03.560 It's a deflection.

01:10:05.460 And I think we all really need to stop being these cheap dates that allow them to get away with these types of deflections.

01:10:13.500 Say you need to address the stuff that actually matters to our country.

01:10:17.660 And maybe when we fix our country and the corrupt, degenerate, really illegitimate people who control it, then we can worry about foreign policy.

01:10:27.120 Because as long as America is corrupt as it is, winning and geopolitically is simply enhancing the power of the corruption that controls the country.

01:10:37.300 I know it is, you know, I said, I think in 2008, if we don't clean this up and admit the errors of our ways and clean it up, there's going to come a time when we are the darkest force ever to be in power on earth.

01:10:58.000 And with our technology, especially the stuff that is right around the corner, my gosh, we're going to make the Nazis look like rookies if we don't rein this in.

01:11:10.420 It's terrifying.

01:11:11.480 Right.

01:11:12.080 No, it really is.

01:11:13.040 It's like we have different choice between different authoritarian systems.

01:11:17.560 China's an authoritarian system.

01:11:19.280 They say, well, we're basically becoming China plus drag queens. 1.00

01:11:23.020 That's the trajectory we're going in.

01:11:27.180 We're China plus drag queens. 1.00

01:11:28.640 And in a way, like China is a very desolate place.

01:11:32.140 It's bleak.

01:11:32.680 It doesn't provide a very inspiring vision of the world.

01:11:35.560 But they don't subject their own people to constant demoralization propaganda.

01:11:41.000 So people are ashamed of being Chinese.

01:11:43.420 They do a lot of other things that, you know, they don't, you know, implement a kind of massive immigration program to, you know, basically replace China.

01:11:54.620 There's certain pathologies that are so acute and so unique to the West that, you know, we really need to address these before we start pointing our fingers at what other countries are doing, including China and Russia.

01:12:09.620 It's whenever somebody's on a human rights panel at the UN and it's Venezuela or it's Iran, you think, how is that possible?

01:12:21.380 Right.

01:12:22.640 How are we going around the world saying, hey, you got to clean these things up?

01:12:27.380 You got to, you know, we stand for justice.

01:12:29.700 Right.

01:12:29.880 We, you know, I think the GIs in World War II atrocities in every, in every war and people go off the reservations. 0.84

01:12:41.320 But I think for the most part, the world saw us, Europe saw us as liberators and we wanted to liberate them and we didn't want any of their stuff.

01:12:54.000 Right.

01:12:54.140 That's, that's the standard that's in my head.

01:12:58.240 Right.

01:12:58.520 You know, and I know bad things happen, but generally speaking, we tried to do the right thing.

01:13:04.140 Right.

01:13:05.280 I, I understand why people all around the world hate, you know, our interventional, you know, our interventions in their lives.

01:13:16.000 Because if you say we stand for higher values and we don't torture, then that means we don't have ghost planes that pick you up and then take you to some rat infested country where they do torture.

01:13:31.740 Right.

01:13:31.880 And we just stand there and go, we're innocent.

01:13:34.400 Right. 0.99

01:13:34.720 That's bullcrap. 0.99

01:13:36.280 Right. 0.99

01:13:36.600 I'd hate us too.

01:13:37.620 I do in many ways what the things we're doing.

01:13:41.040 I found myself after working with the State Department on the Afghanistan thing.

01:13:48.120 You should, you should write a story on this.

01:13:51.360 It was so corrupt.

01:13:53.740 We were trying to get these people out of Afghanistan. 1.00

01:13:56.940 The State Department was so corrupt.

01:13:59.860 At one point, they said that we had hurdle after hurdle after hurdle.

01:14:05.440 They were the biggest problem.

01:14:07.180 And when we finally got permission to let people out, they said, oh, you need one more form.

01:14:18.480 And these people don't have it.

01:14:19.760 We're like, we have all the form.

01:14:20.940 What are you talking about?

01:14:21.920 It's a new form.

01:14:24.020 They had come up with it the night before.

01:14:26.020 There's a new form.

01:14:27.080 Where do we get the new form?

01:14:28.820 We have to get it at the U.S. Embassy.

01:14:31.600 You closed the U.S. Embassy.

01:14:34.500 The guy from the State Department actually laughed and said, you're just going to have to figure that out then.

01:14:42.580 And I got to the point on that seeing.

01:14:46.160 And this is so odd for me.

01:14:48.620 No way I would ever say this.

01:14:50.400 I got on the air right after that.

01:14:53.960 And I said, if this is who we are, I denounce my citizenship.

01:14:59.040 I do not want my name on the United States of America.

01:15:03.320 If this is who we're choosing to be.

01:15:05.640 Right.

01:15:06.700 Can we clean this up?

01:15:08.400 Because it's deep.

01:15:10.760 You know, it's really hard because there's such a tremendous appetite for fake feel good answers to that question.

01:15:22.460 There is such an economy built upon fake answers to that question.

01:15:28.260 The reality is, I don't think, you know, you know, people say, oh, you don't want to despair.

01:15:33.100 You don't want to be, quote unquote, black pill.

01:15:35.160 That means that you're just thinking, oh, it's all ruined.

01:15:37.400 It's all over.

01:15:38.340 I don't think that's the case at all.

01:15:39.960 But to me, it's what's actually demoralizing is to see when people cling on to cope mechanisms that aren't a real path to victory.

01:15:49.820 And the first stage is to have the strength to soberly acknowledge how bad things actually are.

01:15:57.500 And then you work from there.

01:15:58.760 You're working with reality.

01:16:00.220 America needs a 12-step program.

01:16:01.040 No, absolutely.

01:16:02.220 And it's, to me, I find it invigorating to work with reality.

01:16:05.580 I find it demoralizing to work on the basis of cope.

01:16:08.580 I've said this over and over again.

01:16:10.160 If I go to a doctor and I have cancer and he's like, nah, it's a chest cold.

01:16:15.380 That doesn't give me hope.

01:16:16.520 Him saying, yes, you have cancer, but we can treat it.

01:16:20.640 Don't know how the outcome is, but this is what you have to do.

01:16:23.360 That gives me hope.

01:16:24.720 Right.

01:16:25.300 Where are the people that are willing to say, here's the hard work you have to do?

01:16:31.520 Right.

01:16:32.000 Thank you so much for all of the work that you guys do.

01:16:36.440 We have been watching all of your coverage on January 6th.

01:16:41.660 And you're the only ones that are really digging in.

01:16:47.080 So thank you for that.

01:16:48.780 Thank you.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 07, 2023

Ep 169 ｜ What Are the Feds HIDING in Jan. 6 'Investigation'？｜ Darren Beattie ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 07, 2023

Ep 169 ｜ What Are the Feds HIDING in Jan. 6 'Investigation'？ ｜ Darren Beattie ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Ep 169 ｜ What Are the Feds HIDING in Jan. 6 'Investigation'？｜ Darren Beattie ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast