The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 174 ｜ Is Our Military CAPABLE of Fighting WW III？ Space Force Vet’s Grave Warning ｜ Matthew Lohmeier ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:02:00.040 in every walk of life including the military today's guest after spending his entire life in the air force

00:02:09.180 as a real life maverick today um he's here um no longer as a commander of a space-based missile warning unit

00:02:19.200 with space force because he was let go he began to notice the radicalism creeping into the military

00:02:26.940 last year he was removed from that post after he talked about the neo-marxist agenda that has infiltrated

00:02:33.560 the military and it is the subject of his new book irresistible revolution marxism's goal and conquest

00:02:41.640 and the unmaking of the american military um i have so much to talk to him about we're going to talk

00:02:49.240 about nukes because that's what he did for a living we're going to talk about space we're going to talk

00:02:54.440 about the military um i have a feeling we're going to talk a lot about god um and i hope we get some time

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00:04:37.000 hi matthew welcome thanks glenn for having me you bet glad you're here

00:04:51.980 um i will tell you this is the first podcast i think i've ever done where uh everybody was

00:05:00.480 excited for the guest but oddly the women were more excited you're not excited no i'm excited but not

00:05:09.860 not the same enthusiasm as uh i mean i don't look at you as the space hunk but uh i have a feeling a

00:05:19.100 lot of women do um you know my wife bought me um for christmas a license plate i don't know what 1.00

00:05:27.860 you call those things border i guess they don't make them for the space force yet and i'm a veteran

00:05:31.920 of the space force and so for christmas she got me a customized license plate border that said first

00:05:38.540 veteran space force and i was uh excited to to put it up so i set it on the back of my truck that i drive

00:05:45.340 with the intention of screwing it in yeah to the back of the truck and i forgot about it oh my god

00:05:50.020 i dropped it somewhere between my house in my office and it's been crushed by a hundred cars

00:05:54.800 i still don't have that on the back but my wife uh she appreciates too that i'm the space force hunk

00:06:02.500 so um look can we let's just start there for just a just a minute um you've never been to space you

00:06:09.860 don't have to be in space to be part of space force you were you were looking uh at what

00:06:17.320 in space what were you what was your particular job my particular job was space-based missile warning

00:06:24.380 which ties in incidentally with some of what you've recently been talking about our cold war with china

00:06:30.640 at the moment and the previous cold war that we'd fought with the soviet union we established

00:06:36.800 along northern latitudes all across north america and western europe a ground-based

00:06:43.900 radar early warning system so that we could detect icbms that were coming over the poles from the

00:06:49.680 soviet union during the last half a century right and of course that grew into a space-based architecture

00:06:55.120 that was also used in conjunction with the ground-based radars to do space-based missile warning

00:07:00.580 so my career field in the space force and before that in air force space command is what it was called

00:07:07.260 was space-based missile warning we do a number of other things in the space force

00:07:11.420 but that was my area of expertise and uh the space force you know to to many people

00:07:19.360 it's funny i travel all around the country and try and speak in various conferences

00:07:24.460 and space force comes up when i'm in ubers and when i'm uh in airplanes and i ask people have you

00:07:31.220 heard that there's a space force and the answer is almost always no so many people aren't aware there's

00:07:36.020 a new branch of the military or they've thought well it's just a netflix documentary with steve carell

00:07:41.000 and they think it was ridiculous right right so how

00:07:45.140 uh how worried are you about the hypersonic missiles and china and the possibility of nuclear war

00:07:57.620 now so this is a great question and it's not a question that most people ask uh as um a commander

00:08:07.740 of space-based missile warning unit that used infrared technology and geosynchronous orbit i know

00:08:15.660 that's that language can be lost on your typical americans the satellite rotates with the earth

00:08:21.600 that's right right it appears from our vantage to be stationary correct uh and to give you an idea of

00:08:28.520 how far out that is i mean if you had your typical globe sitting on the table and you put a yardstick

00:08:33.560 uh perpendicular to that globe and put a speck of dust at the end of that yardstick

00:08:38.320 relatively speaking that's where our geosynchronous satellites wow that far away yeah they're 22 23

00:08:44.460 000 miles out wow phenomenal distance and uh so we would use infrared capabilities to detect heat

00:08:52.460 signatures on the earth against a relatively cool background to look for rockets right and um one of

00:09:01.720 the biggest challenges that our senior defense leaders admittedly have had is trying to figure

00:09:07.160 out how to detect and track hypersonic glide vehicles uh i've heard some of them say that is the threat

00:09:15.500 that keeps them awake at night if there was anything that kept them awake at night so we're talking big

00:09:20.220 threats the kind of thing um and again i'm not going to assume that your listener understands what that

00:09:26.900 is so by definition a hypersonic vehicle travels at speeds at least at mach 5 which is how fast it

00:09:34.920 depends on um altitude air temperature and so forth so when you think of a jet breaking the sound barrier

00:09:42.540 that's breaking mach 1 and at sea level geez i don't even know what it is anywhere around 600 miles

00:09:47.420 an hour and of course that that speed goes down depending on your altitude and and air temperature

00:09:52.540 and whatnot but um so we're talking multiples of the speed of sound and you know both russia and china

00:09:59.020 have extremely advanced capabilities we pay close attention in the space force to the testing that

00:10:05.940 china has been doing in particular with their hypersonic glide vehicles and how far developed

00:10:11.140 that capability is and the united states is focusing on developing that capability as well

00:10:16.060 it's my sense that we're a little bit behind the power curve if there was if there was a bell distribution

00:10:21.520 and china and russia in this capability are somewhat on the leading edge of that bell curve and i'm i suspect

00:10:30.060 that we're not uh yet on the leading edge of that bell can i just ask you why i mean it's as an american

00:10:37.920 great question why why we we have this opportunity after um the end of the cold war in the 90s and beyond

00:10:46.980 i think to maybe dominate the space domain we elected not to for whatever reason there uh i don't

00:10:56.040 know if it's just policy decisions budgetary considerations you know the star wars program

00:11:00.380 of reagan's era there was uh not just a um claim that we weren't yet technologically advanced enough to

00:11:09.740 pursue the star wars initiative whether or not that's completely true but there was also very real

00:11:15.520 global global geopolitical concerns for that program we're establishing a defensive architecture

00:11:21.380 oh really yeah it could also very well be used as an offensive architecture and that is the that is

00:11:27.420 your standard international relations security dilemma um that is probably one of the best

00:11:32.500 contributions of international relations theory in my opinion is the security dilemma right and

00:11:36.600 and so uh that's probably one of the best reasons i think that we didn't pursue that now i think

00:11:42.460 during the trump pence administration when they became very serious about um what you could rightly

00:11:48.720 term a space race between the united states and china and president trump got excited about the idea

00:11:54.880 of an independent branch of the military for space i think that we were pursuing and perhaps still are in

00:12:00.260 some ways some capabilities that we had long since abandoned since the star wars initiative and you know

00:12:07.860 there are some capabilities although most of what we're doing in the space force is has already been

00:12:13.260 done by air force and the department of the air force for a number of decades there are other capabilities

00:12:18.320 and platforms that we are pursuing that i think the american people probably wouldn't hear about for a few

00:12:26.120 years still but i've got good friends who've been placed in command of some of those units

00:12:29.900 when you look at a hypersonic missile i believe it doesn't have to go as high right that's right which

00:12:37.540 makes it dip more difficult to track and if i remember right it was i thought it was 18 minutes but i just

00:12:45.280 read this week that it was 13 i'm sorry 30 minutes from russia to the middle of america is that the right

00:12:54.900 number and what is the number for hypersonic same same distance the right numbers depend on a few

00:13:02.580 factors now it's probably helpful to just mention that the original nuclear weapons threat at being

00:13:12.320 delivered by an intercontinental ballistic missile the idea was that the missile would be on a certain

00:13:17.460 trajectory would leave the leave the earth's atmosphere end up in space and then it would fall

00:13:21.800 ballistically into a known target we can we can predict with relative accuracy what that target

00:13:28.420 looks like uh when you get into hypersonic so it was but it was on power it was just falling to earth

00:13:34.160 at some point after it burns out it's falling it's on a ballistic trajectory which makes uh detect so

00:13:41.080 detecting the launch was relatively i won't say simple but really it's become quite simple for us

00:13:47.120 and beyond detecting it then tracking it using both ground-based and space-based sensors and then

00:13:53.800 targeting it to kill it or intercept it we have a missile defense uh architecture as well i wasn't a part

00:13:59.980 of that i was part of the missile warning architecture but when you get into things that are moving much

00:14:04.700 much faster than the than the the standard icbm ballistic trajectory and potentially also

00:14:11.640 maneuverable platforms you can think that there's a target in new york city because for all intents

00:14:19.160 and purposes it looks like the weapon is headed for new york city but it changes course and it heads

00:14:26.500 to detroit instead or it heads down to dc and so even if we figure out the detection piece and even if we

00:14:35.400 figure out the tracking piece and even if we're able to potentially get you know shoot the bullet

00:14:41.400 out of the sky with another bullet you have to you have to ask where is it headed and how do we solve

00:14:47.660 that problem that's why this is the kind of threat that keeps our senior military leaders policy makers

00:14:52.900 decision makers up at night if anything keeps them up anymore we've got plenty of other problems as well

00:14:57.360 but you know the point is um yeah how long your question was how long does it take for this

00:15:02.780 weapons delivery to to happen uh yeah 30 roughly 30 minutes for this the old traditional icbm is a good

00:15:10.260 estimate however it depends on where these things come from and with a with a hypersonic vehicle

00:15:16.340 uh they can be launched from any number of platforms and potentially platforms are from places that aren't as far

00:15:24.240 from our from our coasts as uh your traditional icbm i mean remember soviet union 1962 placed a bunch of

00:15:32.180 i think they're medium range ballistic missiles as close as cuba now you're talking minutes for nuclear

00:15:37.640 weapons delivery to a major u.s city hypersonics almost eliminate uh the need to even stage things

00:15:45.260 that close just based on their speeds and you're right they don't go up into space and fall on a

00:15:50.860 ballistic trajectory they can kind of skip along right in between space and the thickest part of

00:15:55.740 the atmosphere and then dive in whenever they're programmed to or told to i'm going to take a quick

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00:17:34.800 it can never be won it should never be fought but we are now looking at the first time two superpowers

00:17:44.460 nuclear superpowers are facing off not i mean still through a proxy today right but that facade is

00:17:53.060 falling away quickly russia knows we want to topple putin and his regime it's becoming more and more

00:18:00.660 apparent they think they could just collapse the united states uh by having a war with us if one of

00:18:08.880 us are in the position of we're losing and they will be dominant we'll be gone that's when nuclear war 0.95

00:18:17.800 actually becomes not reasonable but but potentially potentially likely yes that's right yeah when someone

00:18:26.720 when an actor is backed into a corner uh and feels like it's left with few options right every other

00:18:33.500 time there's this exponential increase in the likelihood of the use of extremely destructive

00:18:37.720 weapons so that they can extract themselves from correct the dangerous existential problem they find

00:18:44.920 themselves but people think of well we've been like this before afghanistan and they were going after

00:18:51.060 vietnam it's not the same that's right this is the collapse of one or the other where the other was just a

00:18:58.480 you know bloody nose or a bruised eye when we got involved in the desert conflicts for the past couple

00:19:06.360 of decades um i think it's probably i don't want to say safe to say but um it's fairly accurate to say

00:19:15.220 that the united states was the global hegemon and russia and china hadn't re-emerged as competing

00:19:24.060 uh global powers and i think that's changed today it's entirely different to your point uh what we're

00:19:32.380 we're at a critical juncture the uh position we're in relative to china and russia is is completely

00:19:43.340 different than the wars that we fought in the deserts for the past 20 years and we dumped a lot

00:19:47.920 of treasure and blood into those conflicts there but uh we're talking about re-entering a period of

00:19:55.120 proxy wars i think we're probably in a multi-polar world between china russia and the united states

00:19:59.680 uh where not only are we getting increasingly involved in ukraine there's a rising china invading 1.00

00:20:07.320 taiwan threat and we have the potential of getting more involved in a proxy war in taiwan and the

00:20:13.000 philippines and then we're upping our presence uh elsewhere in the indo-pacific theater uh which

00:20:19.780 has been a policy recommendation to both the previous and the current administration in order

00:20:25.020 to preempt a taiwan attack and invasion but there have also been really serious considerations about

00:20:31.500 whether or not we should draw back out of the pacific because all of our war gaming says that

00:20:37.080 a war that we get involved in in china's backyard in the taiwan straits is not going to end well for

00:20:44.240 the united states and we don't even necessarily have the fuel in our tankers or the number of tankers

00:20:49.800 required to fuel the fighters and the bombers in that region to successfully execute a campaign and

00:20:56.740 establish air superiority over the island of taiwan and so policymakers have asked and strategists have

00:21:05.360 had to ask really hard questions about whether or not we should stay put and they've been asking that

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00:21:13.140 american people they happen behind closed doors in the pentagon um but there's a legitimate case to be 0.96

00:21:18.700 made for the fact that we're going to have our i won't say the word that's coming to my mind uh rear

00:21:23.540 handed to us if we choose to get involved in a conflict there i mean the number of drones

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00:21:35.620 difficult time pushing back before they soak up all of our missiles all of our all of our 0.91

00:21:41.760 sweet aim 9x's we're shooting down balloons with um that um you know how do you wage a conflict after day

00:21:48.660 three or day four when they've not even put up a manned aircraft yet and we're trying to establish

00:21:53.900 some air superiority in the region uh it's a it's a it's a wicked problem and i think frankly

00:22:01.280 policymakers and strategists are just hoping that the problem

00:22:04.000 remains a potential problem for long enough that we can figure out some way to successfully

00:22:12.100 navigate those waters but if it happens soon uh which i think there's um good potential for

00:22:19.240 and frankly if i was xi jinping i'd do it while biden is in power oh yeah uh but it's a i mean

00:22:25.560 this is a disaster in the making the bottom line and every time i start talking foreign policy or

00:22:31.960 international relations i can't help but then rein in my own thinking to think about the tremendous

00:22:37.060 problems we face here at home i hear nick i mean nikki haley was here on your show and i'm not

00:22:44.660 interested in yet disparaging any candidates for the president but i have to say i disagree with

00:22:50.240 the idea that we keep dumping our treasure into ukraine i agree uh we've got so many problems here

00:22:56.160 at home that unless they have our undivided attention i mean they're likely to undo our country before

00:23:01.900 hypersonic weapons do in fact oh with the soviet union i mean sorry russia is doing what we did to

00:23:09.800 the soviet union they know we are on the edge i mean i've talked about this for 25 years there's

00:23:16.820 going to come a point to where the enemies of america will go oh they are weak just a few more

00:23:25.700 pushes and they're out and we're there we are there we're weak in every way yeah we are and we've

00:23:34.100 demonstrated that i mean a lot of people like to point back to afghanistan withdrawal from last year

00:23:38.520 and the year before that afghanistan withdrawal that was um tragic we were demonstrating to the

00:23:48.600 american people and to the global community to putin and xi jinping that we had misplaced

00:23:53.200 priority priorities within this administration and within the defense department i mean

00:23:57.400 uh we're going to probably talk about it because oh yeah we are next to you no no we are i talk about

00:24:03.460 our misplaced priorities and it shouldn't surprise us when we misplace our priorities that we would end

00:24:10.340 up making terrible decisions uh in how we execute withdrawal for example so could i've had this

00:24:18.600 conversation with conservatives here over the last couple of weeks because i believe we are in a

00:24:24.620 different position than what americans always think we're in when we're talking about the military

00:24:31.580 we think of war and we think oh well we're not really going to feel it you know like the last 20 years

00:24:37.880 um and that you know who's going to beat america it's a different time a different military which we'll

00:24:45.660 get into different leadership money uh prestige all of it is completely different than it was even five

00:24:56.040 years ago right um and so people are saying because i i don't want to be i don't like putin i don't like

00:25:05.820 the russian government i don't like the the europe um the ukrainian government it's dirty yep and our

00:25:12.820 government is dirty i don't know i can't point to the good guy here right you know what i mean and i

00:25:19.140 don't want to have my child go out and have to fight against or for any of those you know that's

00:25:27.300 right um and so i say that and then people like oh we can't back out otherwise we look weak we

00:25:33.280 couldn't look more weak than we look right now right so if you were advising the president

00:25:38.700 what would you tell him to do with with ukraine and russia and china well first he wouldn't listen

00:25:46.340 you don't care what i have to say yeah it goes back to something i just said a minute ago we've

00:25:51.180 got so many problems at home that need our immediate focus right that that's where we need to turn our

00:25:56.960 attention i'm not i'm not advocating to become an isolationist state by any means and our alliances

00:26:02.680 are more important than ever i think uh now do they trust in our strength anymore probably not

00:26:09.140 i think frankly as much as they work with the current by administration they probably think he's a joke

00:26:14.240 uh and now depends on who you're talking about but right every serious country on the planet is

00:26:23.280 willing to go to war to protect their territorial integrity and their political sovereignty

00:26:27.200 so whatever one says about putin i talk about this all the time in public in fact i get asked

00:26:33.340 questions are we doing enough in ukraine and i think okay i don't i think the question is misplaced

00:26:38.620 first off but let's talk about just heads of state and whether you like putin or not and frankly

00:26:43.140 most people don't and shouldn't right because he's a bloodthirsty killer right but the fact is as a

00:26:49.540 head of state he's got a team of advisors around him that will help him understand threats to

00:26:54.340 territorial integrity and political sovereignty and then he has real-time decisions to make

00:26:58.280 based on an extremely dynamic data set about how he's going to act in the best interests of his

00:27:06.340 country i can say that i think that his decisions are actually a reflection of some decent thinking

00:27:12.540 and strategy that include some probably really bad decisions uh and foreign policy decisions of the

00:27:19.140 west over the past and the nato alliance over the past couple of decades that people have warned about

00:27:23.680 i cannot look at our own government at the moment and say that we have our own best interests

00:27:29.780 can either uh at the forefront of our intentions we are not interested in preserving our territorial

00:27:36.360 integrity we actually seem intent on destroying it and at every turn we're making policy decisions

00:27:43.260 that threaten our political sovereignty and so i bring up those two points to say well i think i think

00:27:49.700 xi jinping and putin are actually interested in making decisions they believe will help their country in

00:27:58.100 the century now whether or not it will help right putin but they're actually trying i think they're

00:28:03.540 my assessment and it's a novice one to be sure is that these people have legitimate care and concern for

00:28:10.660 the well-being and the future march of their country into the century ahead and i don't get that sense from

00:28:16.820 the current government in the united states and i think that china and russia get the same sense that i have about

00:28:23.060 the current administration and i think that many americans and i don't care if they're

00:28:28.100 pro-trump ra ra ra americans or not there are many americans who are concerned at the lack of

00:28:33.460 interest that the current administration seems to have and the lack of interest the dod seems to have

00:28:37.680 at pursuing legitimate well-prioritized uh policy and and strategy as it pertains to problems that

00:28:46.860 we're having in our own country and so uh that's the advice i'd give if i could give any advice at all

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00:30:26.320 stream pipeline probably five countries in the world that could do it the one that is makes the

00:30:33.180 most sense is us um we don't see any of anybody who investigated it on our side even saying anything

00:30:44.640 about anything you know it's kind of like yeah well that wasn't an accident uh and we're not going to

00:30:50.420 talk about it anymore um that if that was done without congress if it was done by us that's an act

00:30:58.560 of war if it was done by us and went around congress that's an act of treason as well can you give me

00:31:07.860 hope that you don't think that we did that no i well no i'm not interested in giving false hope

00:31:13.960 but here's here's you know i interviewed with you about a week ago on the radio for 15 minutes and

00:31:21.260 we talked about this a little bit and i've tried to learn as much as i can about this thing since

00:31:26.480 then and i've got a you asked me about um sy hirsch's report and while i said in that previous

00:31:33.560 interview that i thought it was entirely plausible what he's stitched together i can't help but wonder

00:31:39.140 if he's been fed some information deliberately that was um

00:31:43.960 sending him down the wrong trail i think the united states was directly involved i think it

00:31:48.520 was responsible probably and this is again uh an opinion i also think a navy p8 was responsible for

00:31:55.620 the attack what's a p8 uh it's it's uh you look it up i think it's a 737 that's been outfitted with

00:32:01.380 a bunch of bombs and missiles and um i mean go google or youtube a navy p8 and take a look at the

00:32:08.260 capabilities that that aircraft carries and there's a really great video that maybe we can push out

00:32:13.600 as a part of this that i came upon uh a friend of mine sent it to me and the guy traces the flight

00:32:19.740 path of a united states navy p8 uh that had had killed its squawk and went in and refueled in a

00:32:26.460 particular region waiting waiting waiting waiting for the right the right timing to then go drop

00:32:31.860 a payload and i don't know why it's not in the headlines yet but i'll share it with you afterward

00:32:37.480 because i think it's quite compelling so i i imagine that story is going to emerge

00:32:44.300 in the uh in the weeks ahead so if if that happens though see this is

00:32:51.520 i am like you i love america i think america is very flawed and has been for a long time

00:33:02.140 but when we like martin luther king said live up to your principles when we try to live up to our

00:33:11.360 mission statement of the things we found self-evident and we actually honor our constitution and the bill

00:33:19.100 of rights we do more good than bad but all of that is being dishonored all of that is gone

00:33:28.580 if if if they can do this without even congress knowing and approving

00:33:36.380 don't you have a uh unplug it and plug it back in kind of scenario where the whole thing has just got

00:33:45.200 to be reset to factory settings yeah speaking of a great reset i mean that might be one that's kind

00:33:53.080 of useful but how to how to properly manage that and how that will happen is that is the bad news

00:33:59.520 i mean because that's not something that um well the last chapter of my book i give what i consider

00:34:08.380 um it's a warning that's based on history about where this path leads if we don't immediately change

00:34:16.820 course which by the way is called repentance and i believe it's possible for national repentance

00:34:21.520 thank you but um and if if we don't do that we're headed down the path that leads to civil strife

00:34:27.920 more hatred and anger and violence you said the path we're on as a country leads to a fratricidal

00:34:34.500 and genocidal warfare right explain that yeah um i'm glad i put it that way because um people have

00:34:43.940 asked me questions about the potential for civil war and one of the ways you've heard people talk about

00:34:49.000 it now is a cold civil war which is apt um and when i've used the term civil war to answer the

00:34:55.520 question people have pushed back and said no no there's no north south divide in this country we're

00:34:59.620 not going to have a war between democrats and republicans and when they think quote unquote civil

00:35:03.940 war they're thinking about something that is cleanly um divided into halves and i don't think that's

00:35:10.400 necessarily useful right so i'm thinking more along the lines of something that looks far more tribal

00:35:15.840 uh where people flock to the nearest uh community whether it's religious political apolitical

00:35:24.000 areligious uh and that they believe can provide them the best security temporarily before they move

00:35:29.180 on to the next tribe that can provide could be familial fratricidal what i meant by that is

00:35:33.980 brothers and fathers and sons and family have such a hatred of visceral emotional response to one

00:35:41.260 another based on political disagreements uh for example uh that they could kill one another we've

00:35:47.920 seen this in countries all throughout the last century in fact and genocidal sometimes it's called

00:35:53.560 democide but when governments get involved in killing their own people and and you could see

00:35:59.300 already in the past couple of years how if a city became violent theoretically how the government

00:36:06.700 could justify the use of force against our citizens in order to keep the peace i mean that's one

00:36:11.840 potential legitimate use of government also but uh based on the uh recent precedent that they've been

00:36:19.920 establishing you've had plenty of americans tens of millions of them probably frankly that wouldn't

00:36:25.260 trust that their federal government at all would have their best interests um at heart and and so

00:36:31.820 there's that's what i meant by fratricidal and genocidal violence it's this it's this idea that

00:36:37.760 if you can sow hatred in the hearts of men using rhetoric or a narrative anti-american narrative we are 0.94

00:36:46.680 loathsome we are like vermin we are a white supremacist country um first off what u.s citizen wants to sign 0.78

00:36:56.100 up in an all volunteer force to defend that and many are losing their incentive to do that 0.97

00:37:01.660 but also over time that breeds hatred and anger and then when you have an angry people

00:37:09.860 and a hungry possibly and potentially a hungry people and when your children are hungry

00:37:15.920 and you don't trust the institutions and the bureaucrats around you to provide for you like

00:37:22.160 they always have or they're not coming to provide for you anymore people do terrible things and i'm not

00:37:28.340 trying to be fantastic i'm not trying to be hyperbolic in fact there's a great book that we

00:37:33.420 read at a defense strategy school it's by status calivas it's a terribly boring book it's called

00:37:38.620 the logic of violence in civil war and he surveyed uh countries around the globe that got wrapped up in

00:37:48.380 what were largely in fact although he doesn't emphasize this point marxist revolutions in the past

00:37:52.460 half a century and people described their experience in the who survived it in the lead up to the civil war

00:37:59.660 by saying things like i knew things were getting bad in my country but i didn't know it was getting

00:38:06.060 that bad and then we woke up one morning and the whole country was embroiled in violent conflict

00:38:10.120 and it didn't end for seven years or it didn't end for seven months or whatever the case might be

00:38:14.400 and they said it was like a madness swept across the land and you think about that from a spiritual

00:38:20.800 psychological emotional perspective when people become so emotional as ideology can make you or

00:38:28.580 false narratives of the country you live in then and you're filled with enough emotion and hatred

00:38:33.660 that you can really feel it it's guttural then you become irrational you become animalistic and you

00:38:39.360 become tribalistic and you're interested in survival and other things and and so that that's where i

00:38:47.260 think as impossible as it might even seem to some today it surely was more impossible seeming to

00:38:54.780 people two and three years ago although we've made a lot of progress uh towards that very thing in the

00:39:00.240 past couple of years unfortunately and without that kind of national repentance i think that's precisely

00:39:06.800 where things are headed and if again if i was xi jinping i would be well aware of this taking place

00:39:14.860 in our country and not only would i not be interested in if i i i i got pushback from some people after my

00:39:22.520 last interview with you with you who said that they they're military people and who i respect i respect

00:39:28.000 their view uh retired general officers emailed me and said they think that china is actually very

00:39:33.040 interested in a in a kinetic conflict with the united states and i thought carefully about what

00:39:38.640 they said i still disagree uh while there might be the the occasional exchange of conventional or

00:39:45.780 kinetic weapons in a proxy war somewhere like taiwan in an effort to degradate united states forces

00:39:52.480 i think that xi jinping knows that in the long run and in the long game his strategy needs to be to help

00:39:58.660 facilitate the decline of american society american culture and there's no better way to do that than

00:40:04.820 with narratives uh about how terrible a country we are i mean that's why what putin said this week

00:40:11.780 about america right is true is true but it is also part of the strategy from russia to point those things

00:40:23.080 out to continually stir it so you look at him and go he's a killer and he'll stand up for us more than our guys will

00:40:33.280 right well there's no better weapon he has at his disposal than uh to speak the truth about some terrible things

00:40:39.860 that the united states is doing saying to their own people um another example that you may not be aware of is that

00:40:47.840 several months ago the united states air force academy um gave some diversity and inclusion

00:40:55.040 training slides to their cadets and on one of the slides they taught their cadets that it was probably

00:41:02.200 insensitive and maybe even inappropriate to use terms like mother and father anymore at the air force

00:41:07.280 academy and so they should use parent one parent two guardian one guardian two and a cadet that was

00:41:12.440 really dissatisfied with those training slides leaked those and we shared them with fox news and then

00:41:17.780 there were a bunch of headlines that were generated about this to draw attention to the issue which

00:41:21.400 caused the air force academy senior leadership to backtrack and try and defend hey look we weren't

00:41:26.300 saying you can't use mom and dad anymore we're just saying try not to be insensitive monsters here

00:41:31.860 well putin within i think it was within a week gave a gave a speech in russia that seemed to me

00:41:39.760 i don't have the text on me here i'd read it to indicate that he was well aware of the trainings that

00:41:46.780 have been given at the u.s air force academy he said do we want here in our country where we care

00:41:53.420 about the the nuclear family parent number one and parent number two and parent number three he says

00:41:59.500 we don't need any of the satanic evil and all of the russians who want to support putin cheered and

00:42:05.500 all the western world looked at him and said well yeah he's right and we're pushing this stuff on our

00:42:10.200 people and putin said they're pushing it on the rest of us and it's got to stop we'll talk about a

00:42:14.060 great weapon in his arsenal oh yeah use our foolishness against us i was just talking to a

00:42:20.500 friend of mine as i walked into the studio here a little while ago and uh he was in so much pain

00:42:26.300 and i said have you tried relief factor and he said i'm trying it right now on my second week

00:42:33.680 it is um it's hard to get past pain i mean he was at the point where he's about to give up

00:42:40.520 and that's usually when people try something like relief factor and i don't know why if you have

00:42:45.040 pain try it now please don't let this be the last thing you try my wife said to me when i i said i'm

00:42:53.340 not taking that it's not going to work for me she's like oh okay i thought you were willing to try

00:42:58.520 everything i thought you were actually looking to get out of pain yeah yeah yeah so i took it

00:43:03.480 three week quick starts that's how i did it and in three weeks i started to feel a difference

00:43:08.580 my pain is gone most of the time my pain is completely gone try it three weeks 70 of the

00:43:16.160 people who try it for three weeks find out that it's working for them to some degree and they

00:43:20.880 continue to order more month after month if it's not working for you in three weeks at all it's not

00:43:25.760 going to help you it's worth the risk it's worth the 19 bucks 800 for relief 800 the number for relief

00:43:32.860 or relieffactor.com so let's talk about um your book because you you go into uh marxism and uh i mean

00:43:44.980 you've you've nailed it down but tell me because people know that this stuff is happening and it's

00:43:52.580 happening in our schools etc etc tell me why this why somebody who is worried about putting food on their

00:43:59.480 table should care about marxism in our military great question what i meant by marxism and i just

00:44:07.800 want to clarify because people who may be skeptical want to distance themselves from the use of that

00:44:14.340 word as it pertains to some of our race-based trainings uh that come in the form of diversity

00:44:19.580 and inclusion trainings in the uniform services so i tease out the idea that's laid out in part one of

00:44:27.100 the communist manifesto about the oppressor versus the oppressed class and in the in marx and ingalls

00:44:33.660 communist manifesto from 1848 that was an economic class stratification kind of thing that had to do

00:44:39.960 with the bourgeoisie and the proletariat uh we've usurped that i mean the critical theorists have in

00:44:46.420 academia over the past century as you're aware and it became critical theory and critical legal theory

00:44:51.200 and now critical race theory it's still the same oppressor versus oppressed group structure but it's

00:44:59.180 blacks versus whites essentially i mean i'm simplifying things that is what i meant by a

00:45:05.020 marxist rooted critical race theory there's a clear lineage of ideas that you can trace from

00:45:10.960 marxist ideologies roots to the present day and all of our current critical social justice activism

00:45:17.640 that you see in the country why it should concern the person at home um the the short answer is

00:45:23.760 because the united states military has long been a bastion of patriotism and conservatism in this country

00:45:30.780 and the strength of the united states military is predicated upon its unity and critical race theory

00:45:40.640 destroys and divides everything it touches into camps into tribes as we were talking about and so the

00:45:47.420 last thing that the american man or woman wants at the dinner table whether they're aware of it or not 0.98

00:45:53.920 is for their nearby base of soldiers or airmen or guardians to be constantly brainwashed into thinking

00:46:03.760 that our diversity is our strength and that um there are real race differences here we ought to

00:46:11.060 be talking about each week so that we can help be more sensitive to one another and more inclusive to

00:46:15.780 one another no by the way as the air force recently announced we're going to get away from the number of

00:46:20.600 white fighter pilots that we've got we need to go from 80 percent white pilots white male pilots in our 0.83

00:46:27.140 force to 67.5 that was a that was the numbers that were given by whatever his position is there in

00:46:34.480 the pentagon a two-star maybe three-star uh in the air force who's uh responsible for public affairs

00:46:40.600 i just want the best fighter pilots i just want the best doctors all asian right you know all jewish 0.96

00:46:47.040 all black i don't care doesn't matter give me the best ones well that's the greatness of the american

00:46:52.120 ideal i mean merit matters in the united states military unity matters in the united states

00:46:58.360 military if you inject race-based identity politics you divide and then you start establishing quotas

00:47:05.880 and you lose merit and then you lose lethality and you lose readiness so that's why the american people

00:47:11.820 need to be very concerned about this is this something we i mean because i i remember in 2007 i think

00:47:20.420 i started kind of figuring this out 2005 is when i i thought wait a minute i don't think i don't think

00:47:30.440 the cold war really ended they just took their uniform off and put suits on you know what i mean it's the

00:47:38.300 same kind of stuff now it's just corrupt but it's the same guys you know same guys same ideology

00:47:46.380 roughly speaking right and even though it formally came to an end one of the things that characterizes

00:47:52.340 the difference between today and say 1991 is the degree to which foreign actors who share that

00:48:00.140 ideology are able to infiltrate the united states and our institutions and we've got more apologists

00:48:05.200 for this stuff or believers true believers true believers in this with embedded within the

00:48:11.780 bureaucracies unelected officials and elected officials both we've got them in uniform and we

00:48:17.200 pride ourselves in sending our senior military leaders to some of the best institutions of higher

00:48:23.840 learning that exist in this country and elsewhere because it's great when they come out credentialed

00:48:29.180 and now they know what they're talking about because they're experts they also come out

00:48:32.780 more and more left in their political bent and more and more supple and pliable in the hands

00:48:38.780 of a totalitarian spirited uh government policy machine which is what the current

00:48:44.260 the current just last week joe biden signed a new executive order the american people probably

00:48:49.600 haven't heard about yet it's furthering um oh what's it called it's it's more on race equity

00:48:57.660 furthering or further advancing race equity i think was the name fair no yeah f-a-r-e i think yeah and

00:49:05.240 i don't know if they're calling it fair but further advancing uh racial equity i probably got one of

00:49:09.500 the words in there wrong but i don't have the racial equity part wrong and if his january 20th 2021

00:49:18.420 executive order advancing racial equity hasn't done enough damage to the federal uh agencies and the

00:49:28.040 uniformed services he's ramping it up yet further still as of last week and yet there are there are in

00:49:33.540 fact democrats in congress who say that the fact that crt is being taught at our military service

00:49:39.460 academies is just a talking point of some rabid alt-right republicans that's total totally bogus

00:49:44.200 in fact it's been established by policy that they need to be teaching it and the military is happy to

00:49:50.440 comply and these people have been educated and now they're so educated they're going to help

00:49:55.560 educate the rest of so the military so when you look at this i've i've always trusted our military

00:50:05.780 i've always thought those those people generally speaking will follow you know the law and the

00:50:12.980 constitution um and they wouldn't turn guns on you know american people i mean unless the people

00:50:21.980 were just out of control they just wouldn't do it um however we are teaching them now that you know

00:50:31.660 peaceful people are monstrous terrorists and everything else um and i don't know how long it

00:50:39.120 takes to metastasize in something like the pentagon and the war machine can this be reversed how deep does

00:50:49.340 this go um you made a really important point that i want to draw back out it is unthinkable that the

00:50:58.880 united states military would turn their weapons on the american people but

00:51:04.020 governments turn their weapons on monsters governments turn their weapons on terrorists

00:51:12.160 governments turn their weapons on threats to democracy governments turn their weapons on

00:51:17.280 you pick your word i know and what you've seen over the past few years is that we have an ongoing

00:51:24.180 escalation of rhetoric about how dangerous the white supremacist alt-right republican is the trump

00:51:31.160 supporting mega republican uh they're so afraid that the january 6 footage has been handed over to

00:51:37.060 tucker carlson for example because that's too sensitive and it'll do terrible damage

00:51:41.440 the fact is you have to build sufficient narrative to dehumanize citizens in any country if you want

00:51:50.340 the uh government if you want the actors who are just normal citizens in one sense to justify in their

00:51:59.180 own minds and as an organizationally the use of force against their own people and you do that only if

00:52:05.520 you've been sufficiently educated into that kind of monstrous behavior but there's a growing belief that

00:52:12.140 we've got factions within our society that are just animals and monsters who want to tear down the

00:52:16.980 government and maybe there are plenty of those too and make no mistake about it plenty of people want to tear

00:52:21.320 down the government uh but uh so it isn't possible that american citizens who are in uniform are going to turn

00:52:27.740 their weapons on american citizens but they might on terrorists and they might on monsters

00:52:31.440 i know you're smart enough you know you know where i'm where i'm going oh i do so they're buildings

00:52:35.360 all the rhetoric that we see should be very troubling to us you hitler i know you have read ordinary men

00:52:43.520 that's right yeah i mean that's exactly how it happened exactly right exactly right so people are

00:52:48.840 puking their guts out because of the terrible things they did to a pregnant woman the day before or the

00:52:53.160 the family that they had to brutalize in the course of their job and americans are 0.97

00:53:01.420 no different than chinese no different than russians no different than nazi germans 0.99

00:53:05.120 they're just not humans or humans human nature is something that is universal cultural differences

00:53:11.760 aside what marxist ideology does to the chinese it will do to the american correct

00:53:19.560 so i don't think you answered can we turn that around maybe i did answer it

00:53:26.860 um it's a hard question there seems to be so much piling up that is out of our favor

00:53:37.280 um and so you mentioned the man or the woman sitting at the dinner table and they ask the same

00:53:45.980 question what is it that i can do and my answer is you know each of us has a unique sphere of influence

00:53:51.120 we operate in and the man at the dinner table his sphere of influence might be exceptionally small

00:53:57.760 and it might be the walls of his own home and the community he works in monday through friday and i

00:54:03.040 think it's the best advice i could give in this regard is that we can try to be the best humans that

00:54:10.800 we know how to be helping educate in a peaceful manner those around us within whatever sphere of

00:54:15.620 influence that we currently occupy and affecting some kind of repentance in that sphere of influence

00:54:21.920 there are others that have a much larger stage like you and others that run for office or who find

00:54:28.860 themselves in office who should be saying the same thing uh we need to change course is the bottom line

00:54:34.060 and uh solzhenitsyn said famously i think he was trying he was wrestling with as he wrote his

00:54:39.820 his uh gulag archipelago series he had a mountain of um evidence stories um testimonials if if you will

00:54:55.900 about why the things had gone the way that they did in the soviet union and he concluded after all of that

00:55:05.760 and this is right to your question he said i can't summarize any better than to say that men have

00:55:12.840 forgotten god how we ended up here and that sounds to someone who wants the more meaty fleshed out

00:55:19.060 secular rational it's like that answer because when when when we abandon god and i don't care what

00:55:25.900 religion people when we abandon god that belief system turns into a vacuum and ideal ideology fills all

00:55:33.760 the gaps and people are filled with a meaning in a new way and it's hatred for the other

00:55:37.720 and they set about trying to create order in the world by fixing the other and that leads to terrible

00:55:43.780 things and it all in the aims of establishing the utopian correct state and um you know i i don't like

00:55:51.120 saying history proves uh dot dot dot but history shows history has demonstrated in the past century

00:55:59.980 uh exactly i mean you can almost you can prognosticate where this is headed you could prophesy

00:56:06.700 where this is headed looking in the years ahead because we're no different than anyone else that's

00:56:10.800 walked this path of hatred i i've i've said this for 20 years we think we're so superior we think we're

00:56:21.000 so whatever with our technology if we continue to walk down this road and we are capable of

00:56:29.860 holding our country together at some point you know of some way with our technology we will make the

00:56:39.560 we'll make the germans look like rookies i mean it will happen it's human nature and if you read

00:56:46.700 what was happening in the 20s and 30s and you really understand the psyche of somebody who had

00:56:56.160 fought in world war one and then you look 10 years down the road and where they are we're repeating

00:57:02.460 almost all of the same things right you know on the navy reading list last year was ibram kendy's

00:57:09.460 how to be an anti-racist and i start working through this book and i thought you know i've got

00:57:15.500 mind comp sitting on my shelf right and i wanted to pick it up and start to compare the spirit of the

00:57:20.200 text and it was uncanny the fact that our military has advocated for reading texts that are filled

00:57:29.320 with that kind of hatred and evil um tells you the point to which we've gotten in this country

00:57:35.740 but it's not very different than hitler's worldview and i he he usurped he read marx he didn't he i think

00:57:43.400 he detested marx and communism uh and we placed them on opposite ends of a political spectrum

00:57:49.400 whether or not that's appropriate but he essentially usurped um some of marxist ideology and inserted

00:57:56.940 race and then justified the extermination of people based on their race and we're marching that path 1.00

00:58:04.040 right now and so we've got so much of the 20th century wrapped up in what's happening here but

00:58:09.400 people don't know 20th century history one of the things that einstein also said it and you mentioned

00:58:13.940 how devastating this could be i think he and this was before they developed like hydrogen bombs and

00:58:21.080 at the very outset when we had started to develop the atomic weapon he said i don't know what weapons

00:58:27.720 he said uh i don't know what weapons we will use to fight world war three

00:58:36.120 but we'll use sticks and stones in world war four or something to that effect and that that's about

00:58:42.620 right that tells you the gravity of the situation that we face i mean people can kill each other with

00:58:46.880 ice picks but when nuclear bombs start going off uh it sets back civilization for an unknown period of

00:58:54.360 time to the point where you don't have your electricity and your technology and the signal from your gps

00:58:58.720 satellite anymore and you don't grow your food the way that you did before and so whoever makes it

00:59:03.440 through that filter uh has a lot of work to do on the yes i was going to say it doesn't take a nuclear

00:59:09.760 bomb now no that's right it takes it takes anybody who's not today living in a cave you know somebody

00:59:16.780 who's not you know way off the grid in some place where the whole community is set up that way

00:59:23.540 that's not the civilized world and you hit the power grids you take that down it could be months

00:59:31.880 if not a couple of years before you could really rebuild a power grid if you hit it right yeah who's

00:59:38.760 going to rebuild it i mean the the people currently sitting in their caves who don't know anything

00:59:42.620 about the electricity right i mean it's yeah i mean it's uh it's not good um you you just brought up um

00:59:52.700 stolz nichan and i know one of the answers in your book is uh live not by lies yeah i am

01:00:01.860 such a fan of what he wrote in that i when i read that recently in the last two years or so

01:00:11.740 it took on a whole new meaning um right and it is like it was written today for us

01:00:20.760 um one of the things i like about so there's some good news in all of this

01:00:27.080 when you talk about this kind of stuff it's so easy to get bogged down in how negative and dark

01:00:33.480 it all is because it is negative and dark if you're not sure where to find a glimmer of hope

01:00:38.560 look at the great opportunity that we've got before us to try our best to not live by lies

01:00:43.560 and to become a person a human of honesty first and integrity ultimately who can learn true principles

01:00:50.540 and live those principles and values despite all hell breaking loose around us whatever your community

01:00:56.160 whatever your sphere of influence try and live up to that first try and live as a person of honor in

01:01:02.320 a darkened world and that has so much see what the consequences are in a world where no one trusts

01:01:07.940 anybody you know if if you can be the one person that in your circle of influence everybody goes he's not

01:01:17.300 like that he's he's honorable if he gets it wrong he admits it he works to tell the truth hard and to

01:01:26.060 keep honor you're that person the number of people you can affect in dark times is profound that's the

01:01:35.540 hope and the light shines in darkness and the darkness comprehends it not oftentimes and so

01:01:40.980 that's our obligation that's an opportunity it is a glimmer of hope and and you know here's another

01:01:47.040 thing too i i was in fact um this will seem like a tangent but it's not i spoke here in dallas uh in

01:01:53.860 december at a christmas luncheon and they said you normally talk about negative things we want you to

01:02:00.080 come and bring a message of hope and i thought well then surely you don't want me to talk about politics

01:02:06.060 and so i gave a christmas message and talked about christ and what i tried to do is talk about

01:02:11.020 the time in which he came from a social political perspective the jewish people and and i unfortunately

01:02:18.000 offended someone and that wasn't my intent and so i won't cover everything i covered and i i was

01:02:22.540 trying i tried to be careful but it's clear that the jewish people were um a quasi quasi nationhood living 0.57

01:02:32.000 within the greater roman empire at the time of christ's birth and there was an expectation and

01:02:38.280 a hope that because they were god's covenant people he would come and fix everything politically for them

01:02:43.280 and in fact god was crucified their temple is raised and thrown down and once again in history they go off

01:02:53.380 into captivity that was god's covenant people and then in my view they were in an apostate condition at 0.88

01:02:59.540 that time but here's the here's the parallel that i made with the present time i hear it all the time

01:03:03.880 around the country well because we're his people and this is christian speaking because we're his people

01:03:09.360 he will bring us through this and i think that's not how this works and so i unfortunately ruffled a lot

01:03:16.600 of feathers when i share my view that that's not how this works and history does bear that out in fact

01:03:22.480 and god has had covenant people throughout history but guess what that doesn't mean he's going to come as

01:03:27.760 your political savior this week or next in fact he's far more interested in the individual soul

01:03:33.680 oh yeah and in that long game than he is in protecting a wicked corrupt and degenerate government

01:03:40.540 our founders understood that or people or people are our people this is what's so scary is our government

01:03:47.660 government is not the people however the people uh have gone dark darker than i've ever seen in my life

01:03:58.620 um and god is not important the dollar is our lifestyle is and i i hear this from christians all the time

01:04:07.540 that um you know well the the rapture well i i hope you're right because i don't want to be around for

01:04:15.220 but just in case you're not right we need to engage and be um preparing for all things they also

01:04:27.060 seem to it's amazing we're such self-hating egomaniacs um we expect god to do all these things

01:04:35.700 um and and and and yet we don't have any faith that miracles can happen but miracles will only happen

01:04:45.380 for a good and generous and decent people you know yeah the rest of us you know we'll he this land

01:04:55.620 is so sacred i just don't think he'll have uh a a babylon uh and people of babylon on this land 1.00

01:05:07.100 no we'll start from scratch jefferson all of our founders were aware that we had no such false hope

01:05:15.000 no promise from the from providence yeah as the word that they so often used that we would be preserved

01:05:21.780 despite our ignorance and our immorality uh jefferson made it clear that ignorance and liberty were

01:05:27.600 incompatible uh john adams uh said that our constitution does it doesn't i'm paraphrasing

01:05:33.960 doesn't have the power to govern an immoral people holy and godless people it's holy and adequate in

01:05:38.580 fact he says something like uh i mean the force with which we could bring down the constitutional

01:05:46.020 republic would be like a whale going through a thin net if we you know an immoral people 0.94

01:05:52.480 can't be governed properly by a constitute the constitutional construct that we have now that

01:05:58.820 is our construct and so it's incumbent upon us to repent and return to something and at the end of

01:06:03.540 my book in fact that was an important sense i had in writing the book and again and i'll reiterate

01:06:08.680 this it didn't matter to me what someone's religious worldview or non-religious worldview was but

01:06:12.820 there's a national repentance in order if they're a christian then they can repent and face the god

01:06:17.820 of abraham isaac and jacob uh jewish the same uh if they're a buddhist or hindu and they're an american

01:06:27.100 then uh they don't need to repent and face jesus per se to save a nation the idea is that you repent

01:06:33.120 and face an ideal that was at the founding yeah you believe you have a shared you have a community

01:06:38.440 with shared knowledge and beliefs in an ideal and then they live that ideal together and they

01:06:44.560 establish justice and we've lost justice and one of someone i i don't agree with everything he said

01:06:50.920 but um mortimer adler now long deceased mortimer adler had said uh there's there's a list of reasons

01:06:59.780 for the constitution that are written into the preamble and justice is the establishment of justice

01:07:04.940 is one of the first of those he says but if you lose justice then none of the other aims of the

01:07:09.400 constitution are possible and i like that sentiment and as you look around and you look at headlines

01:07:14.620 and you watch what's going on in the world you can be sure that we're losing justice well that's for

01:07:19.100 certain you lose justice which we have or really close to entirely losing justice redefining justice

01:07:26.140 you cannot apply the bill of rights right that's right because you're looking for a different kind of

01:07:33.680 justice and a justice that man can't ever solve that's right i i'm not i'm not a you know ufo freak

01:07:45.220 i am however uh skeptical as carl sagan said it best what a what a tremendous waste of space

01:07:53.620 if we're the only ones right i just don't find it reasonable to think that we're the only thing in

01:08:00.640 the vastness of space so won't surprise me if there's aliens um and i've always kind of just

01:08:08.800 rolled my eyes a bit you know with frying saucers and everything else but we have come across

01:08:14.420 according to the pentagon if i'm reading it right technology that is way beyond man's understanding at

01:08:23.940 this point and the experts i've talked to they have said the way some of these things are moving and

01:08:31.820 the things they're doing right if china per se had that technology it would have seeped into so much 0.98

01:08:41.500 more of their society it wouldn't just be applied in that um so right what are these things do we

01:08:52.780 great question uh i don't know

01:08:55.020 what strikes me as curious is um now like you i'm skeptical uh because i've seen a lot in government

01:09:05.640 yeah i've suspected that most of what people have been seeing is something related to governments and

01:09:12.500 its futuristic technologies right you know skunkworks and darpa and all this videos you see it's like

01:09:17.460 right they're doing stuff that's wicked cool and you're not going to hear about it for 20 years right

01:09:21.560 my uncle my uncle was in uh um engineering uh airplane engineering and top secret clearance

01:09:29.420 and i'll never forget when the the stealth plane came out he's like yeah that's old news yep

01:09:37.240 you know that's right so you're i'm i i agree with that yeah but i hear this is so far beyond is

01:09:44.440 that true or not uh it is um what's striking to me about it is that

01:09:50.560 i watched a documentary i didn't have interest in this um and but i watched a documentary with my

01:09:57.680 wife called phenomenon it was done in 2020 i think it's on amazon prime or netflix or somewhere

01:10:02.600 and i didn't know just how far back in history oh yeah these sightings go and even when you're

01:10:10.820 looking at recent history we're talking 1940s 50s 60s 70s well before the advent of the kinds of

01:10:18.320 capabilities or technologies that i would think could potentially see we're now living in an age

01:10:25.020 when i could when i could think well governments are responsible for what you're seeing and we just

01:10:29.340 don't know about it yet but i wouldn't have thought i can't think that as i look back at the 1950s

01:10:33.480 right um and so and the eyewitnesses to some of these things there's plenty of kooks and quacks out 0.99

01:10:41.440 there i get it but some of the eyewitness testimony is startling and there's this one point in the video

01:10:47.180 probably halfway through where these air traffic controllers are describing something some orb

01:10:54.920 glowing ball of light or something that they saw zipping all over the flight line and i paused it and

01:11:01.740 i said to my wife i've seen that and i'd forgotten this will sound crazy to the listener that i would

01:11:08.140 forget something like this but i was in high school in tucson arizona i was in the foothills in the

01:11:13.540 mountains on the north end of town and um maybe the reason i forgot it is because i don't talk about

01:11:20.160 i was with a girl and i don't want to talk about stories like that i'm married now and but i was with

01:11:24.460 and we saw this orb is a better way i don't want to say ball of light because instantly i guarantee

01:11:29.980 people are thinking well it's ball lightning that you saw and it's a rare which i've seen and that's

01:11:33.620 yeah and it's crazy and it's cool this is very different and so i told my wife that's exactly

01:11:39.780 what i saw it didn't go away it hovered uh it seemed alive but almost static and it and it was

01:11:47.880 completely motionless and soundless it was inaudible and as soon as she and i took notice of this object

01:11:55.600 it zipped right down to over our heads and it startled the hell out of us

01:11:59.320 and if i couldn't tell how close it was but i probably could have hit it with a rock if you

01:12:06.920 could hit such a thing with a rock and it stayed there and we picked up our chairs and we booked it

01:12:11.200 to the car and we left and the thing right right then the thing was zipping off and leaving i it was

01:12:19.060 probably no bigger than the table we're sitting at i couldn't see through it but it looked like i

01:12:24.900 could have reached my arm into it and there was no it wasn't being flown by somebody and it wasn't

01:12:29.440 something that we make that we humans manufacture and so it appeared to be a natural phenomenon but

01:12:36.180 extremely well organized and almost aware of us and as odd as that sounds i had that experience in

01:12:43.580 high school and chalked it up to some natural phenomenon i couldn't explain and i forgot about

01:12:49.740 it until i'm watching this phenomenon this 2020 documentary and so my wife says you've never

01:12:54.960 mentioned this to me i can't possibly be real you're misremembering or i mean she trusts me she

01:13:00.480 knows i trust the guy but she questioned me she teased me a little bit and so i said come with me to

01:13:05.180 facebook i'm going to send a message to this girl that i haven't seen for two decades and um i sent her

01:13:12.460 a message i said i won't even plant the idea and i said hey hey katie how's it going do you remember

01:13:17.600 that thing we saw in the mountains and she wrote back instantly she was on the little green dot was

01:13:22.500 next to her name and my wife and i were just anticipating a response she says you mean that

01:13:26.680 freaking ufo that zipped down out of the sky and hovered right over our heads and so my wife was 1.00

01:13:31.420 convinced i wasn't exaggerating the story and that i'd actually seen this thing i don't know what it was

01:13:37.180 to this day it could have been entirely natural it could have been intelligent and that said there's

01:13:43.180 something intelligent and conscious about light and truth anyway and so i can't quite explain that 1.00

01:13:48.920 but yeah there is intelligent life in the cosmos i don't think there's just they're so stupid that 0.99

01:13:54.580 they'd bring their craft into uh the united over the united states or anywhere in the globe and be shot 0.99

01:13:59.380 down by missiles and or accidentally run out of fuel and crash into a field somewhere right and so

01:14:05.620 and do they look like green men uh i don't know i probably not i'm guessing if there's intelligence

01:14:12.280 out there hey man was created in the image of god how about we start with that right and so i presume

01:14:17.420 that there's intelligent life out there uh and hey we know there's angels out there so where do

01:14:22.120 where are they and uh what form do they take right but what why would the pen what's changed in the

01:14:29.200 pentagon i think the frequent i think a couple of things have changed i think the frequency has ramped up

01:14:37.060 uh i think the fact that it's getting so much attention on social media and the media they're

01:14:43.500 having to um uh spend more time talking about it i've had somebody tell me that it's now trackable by

01:14:52.860 two different two or three different points that they can get a ship an airplane and maybe land base

01:15:00.480 to to lock on to it and go yeah it's i see it three separate sources yeah does the united states

01:15:09.920 government really not know what some of these things are that we keep you know it remains a

01:15:14.740 mystery to the public uh i have a hard time believing that they don't know what most of

01:15:19.320 these things are that that's my sense despite what i've seen despite what um others claim they've seen

01:15:24.660 that's probably as good as i can do on the ufo subject one last one last thing bigger chance of

01:15:31.280 seeing an alien in your lifetime okay or the return of christ uh hands down the return of christ

01:15:38.440 i think so too i'm gonna keep checking my watch you might be here now i'm not a conspiracy theorist i'm a

01:15:44.960 conspiracy analyst i could say and we've been given every reason to believe in conspiracies in in the

01:15:50.580 modern age in the last couple of years and there's big conspiracies afoot uh no that said people know

01:15:57.080 me as very well grounded uh they know that i'm not interested in dabbling in something that i find

01:16:02.460 inauthentic untrue ungrounded unscientific and so i'm very serious about that and i'm a hundred

01:16:08.400 percent believer that in our lifetime we'll see the return of christ me too i'd love to have you back

01:16:13.340 you're fascinating come back you're fascinating maybe we'll talk flat earth and space i really want to

01:16:19.260 talk to you about i want to talk to you more about space but this is really fantastic i think you have

01:16:24.520 nailed it and you have given in in the book you have given uh as somebody who has prayed lord

01:16:35.920 what do i tell people to do i think you have come up with solid solutions um and and things that people

01:16:47.280 can do and you've hit the most important it's god if we don't humble ourselves and repent

01:16:56.800 it's he can't help us he just can't help us that's right well thanks for having me thank you

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 25, 2023

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