Ep 175 | Is THIS the Most DANGEROUS Man in Comedy? | Dave Landau | The Glenn Beck Podcast
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1 hour and 12 minutes
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Summary
Comedian Steven Crowder joins me to talk about his new Netflix special, "A Prison Ten" and how he thinks about the end of the world. We also talk about the dangers of antibiotic shortage and how to prepare for it.
Transcript
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Really, since the 1970s, you were a comedian that made it if you were on Saturday Night Live.
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These days, however, when he watches SNL, he doesn't recognize the show.
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And he wouldn't make the roster because he's actually funny.
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He is extraordinarily irreverent, to say the least.
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It usually means that the comedian is too edgy or subversive for non-comedians to understand.
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I'm not a comedian, but I understand him, and he is still comedian's comedian.
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He is, it's brilliant writing, unbelievably offensive, but brilliant.
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His latest special, A Prison Ten, is all the proof that you need on that.
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His comedy is so dark that you're kind of like, well, the apocalypse isn't so bad.
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The world is ending, and there's nothing funny about it.
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Well, until you watch his special, and then it's a little funny.
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There's no telling how his jokes are going to end, you know, slip on a banana peel, and then end not on the street, but in the sewer.
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He is a very different thinker and very funny comedian.
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If you're a fan of Steven Crowder, you'll find this nice to reminisce with an old friend.
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Before we get into the comedy stuff, let me just tell you that with everything that's going on in the world, our relationship with China is not getting better.
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And because of that, we're going to have some shortages.
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18 out of the 21 antibiotics come from overseas.
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72% of all pharmaceutical ingredients overseas.
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If things escalate between us and China, we could be looking at a severe antibiotic shortage.
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Your perception of me, do you think I would be a fan of your comedy or not?
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But the good, wholesome, trying-to-be-better part of me hates me for it.
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Because you are, of which my humor has always been, very dark.
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You are the darkest cavern I've ever experienced.
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You said, you were talking about, you know, end of the world and you brought up your son,
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Yeah, where he just says, you know, Dad, you know what I want to be when I grow up.
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You know, just explaining to him how the world's going to end.
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And then, you know, what I, what the good part of me hates is that I just love all of
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your humor and you are offensive in every possible way.
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Cause that's, I mean, that's, is that what you're striving for or?
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Like I never want to look at, cause it's not necessarily that it's dirty.
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And that's the way that I look at it is a lot of times.
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But in today's world, I mean, it is, there wasn't one.
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Sometimes, sometimes the way you craft jokes, it's like, oh, that's going to piss off people.
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You'll have like three levels of people that are just want to set you on fire.
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What I like to do is I like to like the end of the joke with the tag.
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I like to find eight more things that are more offensive.
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Make the beginning offensive part less offensive.
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Because you get an honest break though from people.
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Because if they're cracking at something like that, you know that there's this, there's this
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Because there's so much we have to hide now in our society and like what we think is funny.
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I mean, the things you say are true, but some of the things are really offensive.
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You know, it's, it's clearly, at least I hope some of them are jokes, but it's clearly a joke.
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But you, you give us permission to laugh and nobody is doing that.
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I think you're a level down from, I mean, into the dark hole.
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You are more dangerous with your comedy than I think anybody else out there.
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And I, I worked with Chappelle a few times when I, I started and he's one of my heroes.
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And this was when he was like, I opened for him for 7,000 people where it was, you know,
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people were just going crazy, but they were all heckling.
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It was at a time when he was supposedly going insane and then when, you know, when I remember
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And it was, and now he, what was the difference when he, when he left?
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Cause I remember this, he didn't, he signed to do a show and everybody thought he was crazy
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because he, he left behind all that money and possible stardom.
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And I remember thinking he is either crazy or I really like him because he knows the
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He, he always said to, he said his mom told him she made 30 grand a year as a teacher.
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He said, if I can make that as a comic, I'm happy.
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Like, so when they offered him more money and more money to do things that he didn't
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agree with and censor him, which was part of his contract to not do, he walked.
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And then when he came back, he did exactly what he wanted to do.
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And now he's oddly enough, a white supremacist and people attack him and try to stab him on
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And it's like, he's only arguably one of the top five greatest comedians ever.
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So he, yeah, he's such a hero to me, you know, and with the darkness, that's just my
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So if I wasn't talking about something that is dark or I take a nugget of truth, like my
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wife and I, or my, uh, my son and I, when we're sitting at our house pre COVID is one
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of the jokes and he wants, I have to teach him about death because I take him to meet
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And you know, one of the lines is they still vote and you know, he gets to the cemetery and
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And I'm like, you completely clogged up our toilet.
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We're just sitting there, you know, like we have to tell you, it's just so perfectly
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And, uh, for somebody who is, I think a connoisseur of dark comedy, uh, there's just nobody better
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Um, he was, um, the biggest, most powerful star in the 1930s.
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And, uh, he would go to, he was movie star, but he was also a comedian.
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Um, he was kind of like Tom Hanks in, in, of his day, you know, or, uh, Will Ferrell.
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Uh, and he went into the cabarets and he started doing Nazi jokes from like 1928 to 1933.
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He ended up in a concentration camp, uh, and was killed.
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Um, but if things go poorly, if we don't turn around, good news, that could be you.
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Because I don't mean that literally, but all I mean, maybe, so, you know, we were going
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maybe, but there was no one, there was, I kept saying, where's Lenny Bruce?
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Is there not one Lenny Bruce that is willing to stand up to this?
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When you have people in, you know, they've been on the show, you have Jim Brewer, you
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have, uh, you have people that are willing to step up.
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And I think it's not even so much to make a stand as much as it is.
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And even when I talk about, for example, trans, I do it from a point of, I talk about me.
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Like if I was to compete as a woman, uh, it would make no difference whatsoever.
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And I'm able to point that out where I just talk about, you know, I'm at the end of the
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I think she has emphysema, no sports skills whatsoever.
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You know, and there's a way to point out the, the lunacy of everything that's happening,
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you know, without necessarily being antagonistic in the sense of you have to be offended.
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I think in, in certain ways, because you're choosing to be, you're choosing to be a part
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of something that is brainwashed to be offensive.
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You know, the currency of today is to be offended.
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So eventually I think, yeah, we're going to have to either, either comics are going to
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have to step up, start growing some balls and go back to being comics that are actually
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doing what they're supposed to do, which is genuinely making people laugh with their own
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And also, you know, artists, but I think comedians more so are the, usually the ones that bring
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And they're the ones who bring us out of the dark side because of that, you know what I
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Um, because they, they poke at our conscious, you know, George Carlin was brilliant at that.
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And he, he made you think you'd laugh your ass off, but you'd go, well, maybe he's right
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Maybe I should, you know, he had a message to him.
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And there we went for a while where there was no one willing to stick their neck out.
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But yeah, for a long time, well, and Carlin died in 08 and some of the stuff he said you
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could do on stage right now and it would be just as important.
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That's what's, that's what's so crazy about his last special.
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And with Carlin, it, it wasn't so much about a message.
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So he was saying, this is what's wrong with everybody.
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And he went out and he said at first, it's why prior is so well liked because he brought attention
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to a group of people that weren't really being, you know, uh, shined on in any mainstream
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light other than Cosby, who was very, very likable up until some incident, um, something
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I watched that with my kids when they were younger and I felt so bad.
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I kept watching it and going, when do I tell them when I found out that my wife was pregnant,
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I used my dad's copy of fatherhood that he had had and I read it on the plane.
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And then three days later I was like, Oh, that's, that's good.
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My kids, they'd watch Cosby, you know, for 10 years, we watched the whole thing.
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And, uh, and, uh, you know, episode two, I've said to my wife, I'm not sure if this is a
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good idea because at some point we have to tell them who he is.
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And I remember after this, after all the episodes, I'm like, okay, this is a good way and a good
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time to talk about, you may not, you may like someone's work, but the person, and they were
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I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't as, it was most of his career.
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No, they did take away his fake college degrees though.
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Where they're like, we're taking your fake diplomas.
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It's hard because you watch himself and you go, it's arguably no matter what you say,
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And, but you wonder, is this a guy who's such a sociopath?
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It wasn't that it was, there's no edge cause it was good,
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like I'm catering to human beings in every way possible.
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And I, no one's ever done that the way nobody has ever been as likable as a
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So if you go by that, how many people have Jim Gaffigan raped?
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I mean, oh, I mean, he kind of has, he has edge, but he's the same guy.
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His wife's like, listen, you could be Cosby quickly.
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Let's just, he's just putting on a mask and trying to get out to the BTK van.
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And she's like, look, uh, back with Dave here in a second.
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I, I was going to start this with, you know, you and I work hard for our money.
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Um, and then I realized, no, this is what I do.
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Anyway, I know, even though I don't really earn my money, uh, I have taken my hard earned
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money and I use it, uh, the best way I can to help America, to help, um, to help build
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It's, it's not only a patriotic thing, it's a quality thing.
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Traditionally, things that are made in America always been last longer, work better, set the
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Well, when it comes to clothing and things like that, you can't do that.
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And any company that tries, it is an uphill battle.
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That is a true American experience products that you can count on.
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When you buy their socks, you're supporting American ranchers who raise specially bred sheep
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The American manufacturers who wash the wool, process it, and then weave it into socks that
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will keep your feet warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
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This is one of the American business owners that have, I mean, they have taken the hard
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road to make it the best American made product with American labor out there.
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Five best comedians can be of all time or today.
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I would say Dave Chappelle, uh, George Carlin, uh, Robert Schimmel.
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I think, I think what happened to Eddie Murphy was just, he was attacked so ruthlessly by
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the press that you have to look at a guy who was so unbelievably talented, made some bombs
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and they couldn't stand that he didn't live up to his own hype.
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Like he was a 19 year old kid, 20 year old kid when he did Delirious.
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So they were insanely unforgiving to him whenever he made something that wasn't good.
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So, which ended up being a lot of things, but he still made some really good movies.
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And I remember when, like with, when he got nominated for the Oscar for Dreamgirls and
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they said it was when he looked at the camera before he was about to shoot up the way that
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he looked at the camera and he, during an interview and he's like, you know, I was in a movie where
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I played nine people, you know, like he still had it where it's like, no, the talent was always
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Um, I think with him, they just cut him down in such a way because he was the first sort of
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mega star to break at that very young age in the eighties in that comedy boom.
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And you're, every movie you make is not going to live up to Beverly Hills cop and 48 hours.
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I think he just does voiceovers in his basement and makes $40 million.
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He says that he does, but I can only imagine having been trashed the way that he, he has
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been, why would you want to go out and go, okay, I have to make something that live up
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to delirious and raw where you're, you know, 20 and 25 and now you're, he's got to be what
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Yeah, but he should, I mean, Louis CK is still out there.
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I mean, and Louis CK proved that it, and I was so glad he came back because, you know,
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I'm going to put Louis in the top five as well.
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So I'm going to put him obviously in the top five as well.
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And Patrice O'Neill, actually, if I, I don't know if I've named six.
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He put out an album called Elephant in the Room, or a special.
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One of the funniest specials ever where he's talking about a girl who went missing in Aruba.
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And he goes, and the other girl he killed, the Hispanic girl, nobody says anything.
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They just sent some guy out to the end of a pier to be like, yeah, wait a minute, I'll see her.
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But it's like, he did this, it was, it was one of the most, it's one of the best specials I've ever seen.
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It's perfect, it's offensive, it's great, it's like, and he was somebody who took a risk every time he was on, on Mike.
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I think one of the best comedy writers and comedians, and I'm surprised he wasn't on your list, is Ricky Gervais.
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I mean, that's why it's so tough to, and Gervais has heart too, in a way, especially with his show that he put out recently.
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Have you seen, what is it, the BBC series that he did, Derek, I think?
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First of all, it's very dark, but it's about a guy, he plays a handicapped guy, and he has to live in a nursing home with a bunch of old people.
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And there's this one character that is so offensive, so offensive, that it's hard to watch, and he doesn't fit.
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You know, it's just all of a sudden, everything's gonna, and then this guy comes in so offensive.
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He made the comedian, he made a bunch of stuff with John Candy, the director and writer.
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And I think John Hughes is missing because Uncle Buck, Trains, Planes, and Automobiles.
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These are movies, yeah, they don't make those anymore.
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I've been saying it forever, where you just, you love the character.
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There's this schlub, there's a reason these people exist.
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You don't, there's no heart anymore to anything like that.
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But no, but Gervais, his last one about the one where his wife dies, and he's completely, you know, he just hates everyone as a result of it.
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And you see him turn around at the end, and there's so much heart there.
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So Red Skelton said, you can go see a clown at the circus, and you will just remember you saw a bunch of clowns at the circus.
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But the clown that can make you laugh and cry, you will never forget.
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It was a show he made with Warwick Davis, who played, like, Leprechaun, and he was in Willow.
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So they do stuff like they make the door on their office.
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They put the knob a little bit too high, so he can't get in.
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It's just, it's just, it's like deliberately cheap, but it's so funny because Warwick is willing to take.
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In one episode, he's being trolled by this kid constantly on MySpace, attacking him for being a dwarf.
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So he finds him, goes to the school, walks into the classroom, and just starts ripping this kid apart where everybody's laughing.
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And then it cuts back to the kid, and he's just in a wheelchair with a blow straw.
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And then he realizes he starts feeling bad, so at the end he's like, well, you know, I just felt he kind of deserved it.
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And, like, behind him, it's just the kid in the blow chair with, like, kick me on the back of it.
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And, like, only, like, Gervais and somebody with enough vulnerability like Warwick Davis could have pulled it off.
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You, I have a very dark sense of humor, but I know where that came from.
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I grew up in, I grew up in Grosse Pointe Woods, which bordered Detroit.
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My dad was, well, my mom was kind of like a bipolar nurse.
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She just wasn't good at treating her own bipolar.
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And they didn't, they didn't address it at all.
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I know this sounds bad, but I kind of wish we'd returned to those days on a lot of fronts
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with the government where they did nothing for you.
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Yeah, they just, well, they didn't help at all.
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The insurance company as well was like, sure, you've been paying us, but maybe you've had
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He ended up passing away, which then led to my mom's suicide.
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My mom did, but my dad died when I was a teenager.
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I was, I was on stage a couple of days ago and a kid in the crowd said he had been in
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He said, well, my girlfriend's mom killed herself.
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I was like, all right, she dug myself quite a hole, probably not as deep as the one they
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And then I said, don't worry, my mom, I said, my mom, my mom killed herself, uh, as well.
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But it was right after we had our kid and she would be like, could I babysit?
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Cause if you get depressed like an hour in, you're going to have to at least hang yourself
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And it's the only way that I could justify like the, right.
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I just, she, she lost her mind after my dad passed and because she was older, she worked
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as a candy striper and then became a nurse and then she'd work in mental wards.
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And as a result of that, she never got help and she knew how to, she would attempt suicide
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So she would just say whatever and they'd go, well, yeah, you shouldn't be here.
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Obviously you clearly drank a bottle of Vicodin on accident to go home.
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And so my dad would go around the country trying to pay out of pocket.
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So my dad who went from nothing when we were born to a millionaire, lost everything.
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And I ended up being raised by my aunt, my, my, or my aunt, various aunts.
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My, the woman who was watching us was a very close family friend.
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I just sort of, yeah, she had been, she had been stealing pills from, uh, work.
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And one day she didn't come home and I'm like, this is weird.
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But because I was now a teenage drug addict, I was like, well, I'm not going to ask any questions.
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And then when I went to her house to check, she had, you know, she had, uh, swallowed a
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And then I was watched by other aunts and stuff.
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And I remember it cause she got very mad when she found out that I had smoked pot.
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She lets me smoke cigarettes and shoot pool and like what, you know, but she got nuts at me.
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And I realized it was a projection of her own addiction.
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So after that, uh, I just kind of, I didn't go to, I gave up on going to school.
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I didn't really have any ambition other than possibly going to second city to do comedy,
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And I was arrested 13 times over the course of, from what age to what age I was arrested
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And that's when my sobriety started and jail time, uh, just jail, not prison.
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It was just some theft and four DUIs passing out at a red light in a toga.
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Uh, yeah, I thought it was a stops in it, right?
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So I was waiting at a stop sign and I thought it was a red.
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So I started snorting ketamine off of a roadmap, you know, an animal tranquilizer, you know,
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And I, I passed out and, uh, and who hasn't done that with their road now?
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That's why it's so amazing that it's for depression.
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Now I'm like, what do you think I was doing it for?
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So like, I, uh, I ended up, uh, getting woken up by the police and they're like, what are
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And then they arrested me and they walked me into the jail because it turned out I was
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So it was these different things where I would get, and then a whippets was another one where,
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uh, nitrous was very popular in the nineties in Detroit.
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And in the late nineties, I went to probably like 2000.
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I went to a store in Detroit and I was trying to buy like 30 cans of whipped cream in like
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And the guy's like, what are you going to use these for?
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And mind you, I'm wearing like a full track suit.
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And the guy's just taking them behind the counter.
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So I, I walk outside and I started giving them the finger and there were these two leaders
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and I just started filling my car with the two leaders.
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And then I noticed a cop and I'm like, oh, so I start waving to the guy all politely.
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I get pulled over a few minutes later to the day I got my license.
00:32:27.660
I got a DUI the day I got in a high speed chase and crashed my car into a tree on the
00:32:36.240
My dad let me borrow his car and he regretted it.
00:32:40.200
And it was a little bit after you just got diagnosed.
00:32:51.820
But my dad, fortunately at that time, I shouldn't say fortunately, but I think his brain hadn't
00:33:01.460
Like he would really make jokes about anything, really had a great sense of humor and was
00:33:07.040
I mean, he had a halo in drilled to his head for a year and a half and he would go golfing
00:33:15.120
But he, the day he loaned me the car is when he started to worry about me because I'd never
00:33:22.460
I was 16 and I got in a high speed chase because I was giving people lawn jobs going under their
00:33:28.920
lawn, you know, ripping it up, you know, and I decided to do it in front of a guy who
00:33:38.120
And so we ended up in this high speed chase and we were having a family reunion at the
00:33:45.440
Now, all my friends who were still conscious run.
00:33:53.660
And what I didn't know, even though he had gone down to the hood to get liquor, was the
00:33:57.600
trunk was filled with a bunch of party supplies for the party the next day.
00:34:02.200
So the trunk pops open and for like a half a mile is potato chips and beer and liquor just
00:34:15.240
And then I wake up and I see my dad and I walk out and my dad's never been violent to
00:34:23.680
And he just hit me in the face and knocked me out the second time that evening.
00:34:30.700
I finally wake up and the cop seriously goes, he's awake.
00:34:34.740
If you want to hit him again, completely on my day.
00:34:41.400
Six months suspended license though, at that time, kind of a slap on the wrist, different
00:34:46.540
And then from then on, the more my dad was gone, the more my family was gone.
00:34:52.100
I just, I had abandonment issues, which was not their fault, but I was just kind of lost.
00:34:58.560
I had, you know, I just sort of went to a very...
00:35:03.880
You know, it's, it's almost like you need them.
00:35:06.220
And yeah, so I was being raised by my friends who could stay out all night.
00:35:11.080
And a lot of them, the ones who could stay out all night, were dealing with certain issues
00:35:16.200
And the ones that had good home lives were going home.
00:35:19.340
And I ended up addicted to drugs and alcohol for years.
00:35:29.880
If I didn't drink, and this was by the time I was a senior in high school, I remember I
00:35:34.640
went to eat rice at Eastland Mall in Detroit at a food court.
00:35:41.780
And when I went to eat the rice, my hand was shaking so bad from withdrawals.
00:35:48.060
And my friend Stu's like, do you have Parkinson's?
00:35:53.460
And I drove down the street, grabbed some liquor from the liquor store, and I just slammed
00:35:59.760
it to drive back so I could sit down and finish eating my food.
00:36:04.100
And that was the moment I'm like, I realized I was a severe alcoholic.
00:36:08.460
And then when I finally ended up in rehab and felt what it was like to detox, I knew
00:36:26.720
But alcohol is my main thing, eventually cocaine, because I wanted to stay up to drink.
00:36:41.900
What do you think of this new trend where LSD is cool again and it's good for you?
00:36:49.140
I mean, if there is some sort of idea to microdosing with mushrooms that actually cures depression
00:36:55.320
and there's people that believe it and can prove it, I'd be interested in truthfully seeing
00:37:01.400
LSD because of where it comes from and the way that it was made and the way that it's
00:37:07.680
sort of a mind control, I don't think it was good for me.
00:37:13.500
Because I have a thing called HPPD and I still get the occasional, you know, something will
00:37:21.620
I have a concept of time that's not necessarily...
00:37:25.560
There's like a division of like when I started doing hallucinogens versus when I didn't and
00:37:31.440
I have like two separate lives and I didn't know that.
00:37:35.480
I didn't know that until my doctors, you know, diagnosed me with it.
00:37:43.560
You know, I've had friends who are like 40 now who are like, I think I want to try acid
00:37:50.160
Like when you're 16, you don't have to worry about anything.
00:37:54.100
I became an alcoholic and now as an adult with teenagers, I need those blackouts.
00:38:13.380
I just have to eat ice cream and then wake up the next day and I feel like I've been doing
00:38:19.660
So yeah, I guess, you know, really though, I guess how it went was just different dark
00:38:25.440
things happen in my life and making jokes with my friends.
00:38:32.140
Sitting here talking to another alcoholic and who had similar life growing up.
00:38:39.780
Uh, I know the danger of, um, drugs eat no matter how much pain you're in, uh, man, drugs can
00:38:51.200
So how do you kill a constant nagging pain without blowing holes through your stomach or being
00:39:00.840
And once I began taking it, almost all of my pain, well, all of my pain did go away almost
00:39:08.800
I still have flashes of it, but I, I, I wasn't able to use my hands or anything.
00:39:29.380
Relief factor.com or 800, the number four relief.
00:39:35.760
A lot of people know you as, you know, the cohost with Steven Crowder.
00:39:41.460
You, you still talk to him cause he's fallen off the map and yeah, the, uh, he, well,
00:40:01.200
Um, uh, when you look at, um, people who are doing comedy, let's say Saturday night live
00:40:12.380
and you see the people that are on there now, do you think they know they've sold out that
00:40:20.140
they're, they're, they're, they're shills or are they just, have they just finally just hired
00:40:25.560
a bunch of people who are really not funny, just not, you know, it used to be, everybody
00:40:33.820
Now it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's the ending of every scene is the whole
00:40:40.580
It feels like it's written by the CIA every time you want, doesn't it?
00:40:45.780
And then you see update and I kind of go, okay, they're comics.
00:40:49.340
I do think they are, you know, I think Colin Jost knows what he's doing.
00:40:52.820
You know, I think, but the rest of the show, it just feels like it's a forced thing.
00:41:00.060
And then once you saw the dancing vax needles, I was like, why would you allow that ever?
00:41:05.720
Can you imagine even Johnny Carson coming out there or even Leno?
00:41:15.420
And it's, and you've, you've, you've also, it's not that, that is, that screams propaganda.
00:41:22.760
It was so terrifying in a way to see those dancing needles.
00:41:27.580
Um, uh, but it's like people just write off half the country now.
00:41:39.460
And that's the part where if you don't enjoy something on, on accident or because by default
00:41:45.920
you're offended or you don't like it, that's fine.
00:41:49.620
Not everybody's going to like you, but now it's deliberate division and that's what they
00:41:55.460
And that's what the, it's what the entire mainstream outlets are.
00:41:58.300
It's to make a group of people hate another group of people.
00:42:02.260
And unfortunately everything in the mainstream is designed to make you detest.
00:42:18.480
It's hard to even call it left at this point because people can look at liberal and I can
00:42:24.300
look at liberal and go, well, I'd say I was liberal.
00:42:26.400
I don't, that's why I don't call it liberal anymore.
00:42:29.880
I don't, I'm uncomfortable calling it Democrats.
00:42:32.980
There are Democrats that I know that vote Democrat.
00:42:43.220
There is, the power is in the uber dangerous left.
00:42:52.680
But we're at a point now where people are doing things to be liked, but what they're
00:43:00.500
And what they're doing is, is it's violent, it's wrong, and it's very much to be liked.
00:43:06.320
And we're living in a thing where outrage is currency.
00:43:10.840
Why is that something you want to be a part of?
00:43:13.140
And it's not even, you know, it comes down to, we have arguments of people use trans or
00:43:20.800
And they want to use victimhood and they want to use everything else or be a part of this.
00:43:27.780
I don't feel that there should be this constant training of division to make you feel like
00:43:38.480
I've talked to several people and many of them atheists or agnostic.
00:43:43.800
I'm like, you know, this is a very religious word, but I don't know how to describe telling
00:43:53.180
You will never be anything unless you get them.
00:44:02.220
You're never going to be anything because of that guy.
00:44:10.620
And the idea is you go there and a professor teaches you that you can never amount to anything
00:44:17.300
And then this other color has everything, but doesn't deserve it.
00:44:23.900
So you're being trained that you should never be anything because you can't be.
00:44:29.260
And the other part is being taught that they are worthless and that they need to check
00:44:55.160
And they have gone to the age where they have asked me, so, dad, I know you're really
00:45:16.360
But I grew up in a time that was a blip in human history.
00:45:39.340
I think technology evolved a lot quicker than people did.
00:45:43.060
And I think that's the dangerous part is I do believe in freedom of speech and that everybody
00:45:48.420
When did we stop saying, I so strongly disagree with you, but I'll fight to my last breath
00:45:55.660
And the problem is, is I've learned, though, that a lot of the people on social media maybe
00:46:03.180
I've always thought of it as we've all we know these people were around us.
00:46:11.440
I mean, we always had the guy on the street or the family on the street that everybody
00:46:22.120
If they're talking to you, just just keep walking on.
00:46:25.840
But now they have connected with everybody else's person on the street.
00:46:38.920
It's just in our face and being used now to terrify all of us.
00:46:45.660
And everything's being used for fear, including a ring doorbell app like I have that where all
00:46:51.800
of a sudden I'm just want to make sure everything's safe in my house.
00:46:56.300
You know, it's I had I had to become a gun owner for my own safety.
00:47:00.700
And it was because of threats that I had gotten from being on like the Kumia show.
00:47:05.800
And so all of a sudden in my ring doorbell app, I'm getting stuff from, you know, other
00:47:09.940
people that have it like there's an ambulance on this street.
00:47:14.840
It's like, I think you're a little too worried, but it's people that are shut ins that are
00:47:19.740
And now they're afraid because they're telling the whole neighborhood what to think and feel
00:47:27.440
So are you I mean, I might be one of those ring people affair that are like because I
00:47:41.620
But I don't trust the gathering of all of that information when it comes to those companies
00:47:50.620
You're like, well, I don't want you having, you know, a complete visual contact of me all
00:47:58.880
Not like I'm coming home, you know, drenched in blood.
00:48:15.200
I remember when I got a pager and I was, I don't know, 16.
00:48:28.240
I'm like, my friends want to get a hold of me, you know, in case they're near a pay phone
00:48:35.660
And I'm like, I don't know, that's what we have them.
00:48:38.180
He goes, don't you think it's dangerous how easy it is for people to get a hold of you?
00:48:44.880
But it really bothered him because then it was right when like the internet came out and
00:48:48.800
he liked technology, but he just kept finding it scary how there was this beginning of no
00:48:55.440
And this was, you know, he passed long before any of this stuff.
00:48:58.520
But even then he was warning me about what was going on, how this seems like it's a very,
00:49:03.860
very slippery slope into where you will never have a moment of a day where you can be left
00:49:09.720
Well, if you look at what the World Economic Forum is saying, if you look at even Ray Kurzweil
00:49:18.120
We're talking about things that are so far beyond our understanding because man's never faced
00:49:26.240
anything like this with AI and all of the stuff is coming, that could be the most dangerous
00:49:34.260
cage that nobody ever gets out of except the ruling elite.
00:49:40.060
But they might actually be trapped by, you know, a form of AI that grows beyond them.
00:49:48.820
It is the acting elite in Hollywood may be ruined by AI because it's like, oh, we have
00:50:05.640
I mean, when it gets good enough, I thought I'm going to fake my death, you know, and just
00:50:15.160
I'll just get up in the morning, take two minutes and go, talk about this.
00:50:18.420
And I'll be on TV and radio talking about that forever.
00:50:45.560
I used to say to my writers when we were doing, I was doing comedy shows early in my
00:50:52.600
career, and I said, I don't know, this might be over the line.
00:51:06.740
Like, there has to be this level where it's like, if you're doing something for complete
00:51:17.980
I mean, I've never felt that anything should be, if it's done the right way, no.
00:51:25.360
And I've heard the most offensive jokes in the world.
00:51:31.900
I mean, I'm not saying everybody would like them.
00:51:36.320
But, yeah, I don't find anything to be over the line.
00:51:39.040
And maybe I'm somebody that can take it a little more.
00:51:41.240
Like, sometimes I'll be hanging out with people at a party, and because I'm jaded, I'll say
00:51:45.840
something, and I'll be like, oh, man, I, yeah, yeah.
00:51:48.340
And you're like, well, that's, that's the one I shouldn't have gone with.
00:51:52.100
You know, and that's, and you guys to reel it in, and amongst other people.
00:52:10.580
You look at social media today and TikTok, and you see, I don't know if you saw the new
00:52:22.960
It makes, it doesn't work well with men, just women.
00:52:43.720
But with women, I mean, you'll see these people, and there's a couple that are like, oh, I don't
00:52:49.240
And it, you know, just, they take the filter off, and you're like, really?
00:52:53.900
Put a little bit of makeup on, and you look like that.
00:53:04.660
And every single woman that I saw doing it said the same thing.
00:53:22.260
They want it, but they know this is horrible, because I don't look like that.
00:53:30.100
We're living in a time where we have this impossible standard of beauty, while we're also trying
00:53:39.320
Now, I shouldn't say the worst, but if you happen to be obese, you happen to be these things
00:53:43.440
that people might find on a trip, whatever it might be.
00:53:47.680
But it's like, for other people, that's something that they might look at, however they are flawed,
00:53:53.240
where we don't embrace flaw, but then we're supposed to embrace flaw.
00:53:57.880
We're living in a time where you go, okay, Lizzo's gorgeous.
00:54:00.420
We want to love her for her body, whatever it is, while simultaneously saying, you're not
00:54:10.220
It's a confusion and a consumerism that I'll never understand.
00:54:13.660
So, it just makes people feel like they don't...
00:54:22.560
And then you have this reality in the middle that isn't acceptable, which is who you are
00:54:35.160
I don't understand why other guys are interested in other guys, let alone women.
00:54:40.180
Yeah, like where you're like, because yeah, I grew up around guys.
00:54:46.360
And then you look at women and they're just works of art.
00:54:49.320
And it's like, you don't even need an app to realize how beautiful you are.
00:54:56.560
And then to have this on top of it, it's this competition with themselves that they don't
00:55:02.240
even need to be having that creates an insecurity amongst them that they don't deserve.
00:55:06.940
One of the things I fight with all the time, because I realized at one point last summer,
00:55:19.140
And I think it was like the third day when I realized we hadn't said a genuine, kind thing
00:55:34.640
And I mean, all of us are just, we just keep stepping it up, you know?
00:55:40.380
And I thought, I don't know if this is real healthy.
00:55:48.420
Sarcasm is, and I also realized a few years earlier, unfortunately, and I wish, I mean,
00:55:55.500
this is tragic, but I have a daughter with cerebral palsy and she's very literal, okay?
00:56:02.000
And, and I didn't, I didn't realize with all the sarcasm that's going on, you know, I know
00:56:10.920
she's very literal, but I didn't think like, you know how much you get sarcasm?
00:56:15.900
Uh, and I, I just, I, I find myself in this place where it's like, I don't know, is that
00:56:28.760
I mean, if you know it for sure, I think it's, I think it's my favorite.
00:56:35.800
I mean, yeah, especially my son is very sarcastic.
00:56:40.040
Like I'll be excited about something or like an accomplishment I had.
00:56:45.400
And you know, my son will just kind of go like, oh yeah, dad, that's really good.
00:56:53.860
And he just walks away and I'm like, I'm like, that hurt a lot.
00:57:00.740
You know, and they get it though at this like young age and we were driving the other day
00:57:05.400
and we were late and to, uh, going to my brother's house and he goes, that's fine.
00:57:15.400
I was like, do I, I'm like, do I have two wives?
00:57:18.540
You know, it's just, he'll just say stuff where, so I, yeah, I think it just depends,
00:57:28.540
I had a, uh, uh, a meeting with an executive at premier radio, uh, when they were first
00:57:37.800
And, uh, he was the vice president in charge of the talk industry.
00:57:45.920
And I sat at the steakhouse in New York city and Paul Castellano was shot outside.
00:57:54.920
And he was, he, everything he said, and I, I knew nothing about him and nobody warned
00:58:03.080
Everything he said was either sarcastic or he was an ass.
00:58:10.100
And I walked out of that building and I said, I either love that guy or hate his guts.
00:58:20.460
Cause if he's serious, he's a monster, but he's the kind of guy, a little like Kaufman
00:58:29.380
that he just enjoyed it himself and he wasn't doing it for anybody else's laughs.
00:58:38.160
You know, and, uh, turns out, uh, he was very sarcastic, which worked out well for me.
00:58:44.080
Otherwise I probably would have been on a killing spree with him.
00:58:51.140
Um, let me ask you, um, I had Jim Brewer on, I don't know, a couple of months ago.
00:59:01.660
And, uh, we talked afterwards and I said, uh, cause he's very spiritual.
00:59:09.740
And, uh, uh, I said, you gotta do a comedy special on religion.
00:59:17.220
Cause he can approach it in such a way where he's skeptical and, you know, all the true
00:59:23.160
stories that he went through, um, that I think a lot of people, cause, because religious
00:59:27.800
people are always perceived as having a stick up their butt.
00:59:45.340
Um, but I have battled with it at times and it was kind of being sober and finding a God,
00:59:52.440
you know, that I believed and sort of taking pieces of what I thought different religions
00:59:58.760
worked for me and it's not that I don't believe in Catholicism.
01:00:03.080
I was very, very angry at the church for what they covered up.
01:00:27.960
Did you feel kind of like, you know, it's not that I want it.
01:00:39.340
Um, I, I, that was disheartening to me though, because I, uh, even when my mom would kill
01:00:44.780
herself, she was very devout and we would go to church sometimes three times a week to
01:00:50.380
the point where even God was like, you want to slow down?
01:00:53.460
Like, you know, you're really becoming kind of a groupie.
01:00:56.640
It's been much, you know, it's like, look, I get it.
01:01:04.400
And I do go to church here and there and I, I wouldn't say that I'm, you know, certainly
01:01:08.820
this very, very devout in the sense of, I follow all the rules, do everything right.
01:01:14.040
I'm not, I very much just believe on, believe very strongly in treating other people.
01:01:19.260
Well, being kind to other people and just praying to God, knowing that I am completely
01:01:27.700
And I try to do work on the side that I can do privately to help other people do what
01:01:34.440
This is not, this is now it feels kind of like, well, like kind of like you're, you're saying
01:01:40.240
too much, like I'm covering and I, I help people on the weekends.
01:01:45.360
And I, yeah, yeah, yeah, look, I killed a guy on the way too much.
01:01:52.940
I, when I used to drink, you know, you wake up in the morning and you, you go, well, I
01:02:04.900
Um, yeah, uh, I am, but it's like, I can't say I'm a particular religion to be honest with
01:02:18.460
And that's the truth because I was very, very angry at what happened.
01:02:22.560
But now that I've had priests come to my shows that are fans, they find the jokes funny.
01:02:27.220
I've been able to open my eyes to go, well, there was a serious problem going on.
01:02:33.820
So, so the fact that they go to your show and find your filthy comedy.
01:02:42.820
Funny doesn't make you question them as priests.
01:02:47.520
But like, I'll, I'll even go out to him and go, sorry about that whole altar boy part.
01:02:50.940
And they'll be like, I'm just glad it went by quick.
01:02:59.360
Yeah, I guess it's, it's, it's hard for me to answer, you know, then, then a simple yes
01:03:06.740
Cause it's like, yes, I do believe in God and I do believe that there is something that
01:03:13.700
But I, I, at the moment I'm trying to figure out not so much what that is, but what I believe
01:03:25.220
But yeah, it does sound more where I'm like, no, I try to be nice.
01:03:28.300
I don't, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know.
01:03:35.180
Um, I've never, I, you know, I, I don't traffic no more, you know, it's just sort of.
01:03:45.400
I think, uh, my father, when he died, um, he was so open-minded on almost everything.
01:03:58.740
Uh, he could find the, he could find the joy other people had in things that he didn't
01:04:06.940
necessarily agree with, you know, but he thought this is great.
01:04:11.180
Um, and towards the end of his life, he became just so calcified and he became a different man.
01:04:19.340
And I think the secret to never getting old and also probably to a better afterlife is
01:04:36.580
I mean, I know what I believe, but I could get to the other side and it's like nothing
01:04:42.800
Maybe it's that, you know, the elephant and the eight armed woman up there.
01:04:47.780
I'd be shocked if it was, but think about that.
01:04:50.280
If I'm, you know, if I'm up there and I'm dead and that's the reality, I guess I'm like,
01:05:00.180
Are you just, yeah, you wake up and you're a lizard and you're like, yeah.
01:05:04.820
And I thought about that too, where I think that's, that's the part that bothers me sometimes
01:05:10.020
about religion where it's like, I know exactly what happens and I judge you very hard for
01:05:23.000
It's like when I was young, my dad was, I saw JFK in the theater when I was nine and
01:05:28.280
like we would go to Gettysburg, we would go to all these history places and that's where
01:05:32.460
we, and I actually had interest in it as a kid, but it was basically my dad saying,
01:05:42.580
And I always learned like, don't necessarily believe anything that you see as fact.
01:05:47.740
And that's how I grew up to believe everything is just don't necessarily believe what's on
01:05:57.340
I, I mean, I remember the JFK thing, you know, there was more shooters, blah, blah, blah.
01:06:07.020
And when I got older, I could look into those things and go, well, maybe, I don't know, but
01:06:12.080
maybe, but now it's starting to come out and you're like, good God, it looks like the CIA
01:06:20.460
or somebody involved in the government did kill him.
01:06:25.340
I mean, it's almost as if everything you believed is crumbling and that is so dangerous because
01:06:40.540
Because everything that I look at is somehow related to something that you were supposed
01:06:45.280
You were supposed to believe in some, you were supposed to believe in some level of decency
01:06:51.260
And the reality is, is all along, it's been a level of power.
01:06:56.100
And that's what bothers me about everything that's going on.
01:06:59.340
It's the same thing with, if people look at a global thing or everything that's going
01:07:02.860
on right now, what is the benefit of everything?
01:07:05.540
That's the benefit of everything that's happened in the last few years.
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It's the same as, you know, I know that you talk about certain things people had to
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You know, you look at Woody Harrelson the other night on SNL and how people are getting
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The one that I didn't take was the one that seemed a little odd.
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Like even in my special, when I talk about, you know, if I got the polio vaccine and the
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next morning I woke up and I'm like, why are my legs all noodley?
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You know, I'm just, you know, across the floor.
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So I just kept noticing everybody was getting sick.
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And I kept flying and I would go to like Florida or Alabama that would let me do shows.
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And people are like, you're the biggest germaphobe I know.
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Like you putting a mask on with your germy hands is absurd.
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And it's because I grew up with somebody who was teaching me about germs constantly.
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And the way that people didn't question it and politicized it made no sense.
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Then in one day they were like, yeah, you got to take Biden's vaccine.
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But in the worst pharmaceutical incident, I think maybe since Bayer in Germany, you're
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seeing that this is collusion with the government and it's all cover-ups.
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And yet those same people who were right to question pharmaceuticals are now like, don't
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Why would a company ever, ever do something against you?
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It's not like they created an epidemic of opioids.
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And I'm young enough to, or, you know, and I'm old enough to remember where I worked at
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a pharmacy in the nineties, which is a great place for a drug addict to work.
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Especially when they weren't really counting anything.
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Because you could just get a handful of Valium and just throw some nickels in there.
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You know, but it was, I remember though, the, the Oxy wraps and the Vicodin wraps.
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And I mean, you could have an Oxy pen at the doctor's office, you know, like this was something
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And I'm not against opioids for the proper use of them.
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But I don't believe that anybody should have to live in pain.
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You know, there's enough stuff to kill it, but you know, fentanyl is an end of life drug.
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And sadly I've lost, oh man, at least 15 friends in the last two years.
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And I don't know why people are still doing cocaine, but then it's in there.
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They don't know if it's for, because they make it for a different degree of, you know,
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some is for people, some is for elephants, some is for the, you know, and then it ends
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It's like, I wouldn't touch any of that stuff now, but that's a drug that is designed to
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I'm going to the Ice House in Pasadena, California.
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And then I will be at the Comedy Zone in Greenville, South Carolina.
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Yeah, I'm at Yuck Yucks and Milk Through My Nose.
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Comedy specials just unbelievably offensive, but very funny.
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