The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 187 ｜ 'Podfather' Adam Curry Was SCARED to Tell Joe Rogan THIS

00:00:00.000 Joe Rogan describes today's guest as always 11 months ahead of the rest of the world.

00:00:06.780 Well, if that is the case, we should all be relieved because the man just became a Christian and the best kind, I think.

00:00:15.120 He got a start as a DJ on pirate radio, and he's kept that spirit ever since.

00:00:19.720 Shortly after his time as a VJ at MTV, he dove into the world of podcasting.

00:00:26.940 Actually, a better way to put that is he's the guy who really invented or created the world of podcasting by starting the first RSS feeds.

00:00:37.040 Hence his title, The Podfather.

00:00:39.700 He has also earned the title of Conspiracy Therapist.

00:00:44.180 The last time he was on the podcast, we covered, I think, every imaginable topic.

00:00:50.220 But a lot has happened in the past year, and I've changed and he's changed.

00:00:54.940 Today's guest is a pretty safe bet you are in for a fascinating hour.

00:01:01.920 Please welcome back to the program, Adam Curry.

00:01:06.220 Before we begin, let's talk about the uncomfortable topic of sweatiness.

00:01:13.160 There was a doctor at Harvard.

00:01:15.620 He was a scientist at Harvard, and he had, and Stu told me the other day, he'd never heard of sweat tacos before.

00:01:21.520 You know, that's the ring under your arm, and then when you put them down, it's like tacos.

00:01:27.160 I don't usually keep meat under each arm in a taco form.

00:01:31.840 But this guy was really, really uncomfortable with the sweat tacos, as he would teach.

00:01:37.280 He was just embarrassed by it all the time.

00:01:39.120 Then he realized, I'm a scientist, man.

00:01:42.440 What am I doing?

00:01:43.500 Why am I not coming up with something to deal with this?

00:01:47.880 Well, he did.

00:01:49.160 It's called Sweat Block, and you can get it now at sweatblock.com.

00:01:54.060 You can get it on Amazon as well, but if you want to save money, you'll go to sweatblock.com and use the promo code BECK, and you will save 20% off of your order.

00:02:05.480 They have the regular stick, which is really, really good.

00:02:08.660 The awesome thing, really, is the Sweat Block wipes.

00:02:14.020 Before you go to bed one night, let's say it's Monday, you just wipe it under each arm.

00:02:19.760 You don't have to apply anything for the next six, seven days.

00:02:24.440 It's remarkable, really remarkable.

00:02:27.640 Sweat Block, go to sweatblock.com.

00:02:29.920 Use the promo code BECK.

00:02:31.600 Welcome back.

00:02:44.840 Thank you.

00:02:45.360 It's so good to be here.

00:02:46.560 It really is.

00:02:47.220 I have to say, right off the bat, you've had some amazing guests on recently.

00:02:51.180 I'm so honored to be here.

00:02:52.860 Oh, wow.

00:02:53.580 Jonathan Cahn blew me away.

00:02:55.960 Right away, I had to read his book, was it Return of the Gods.

00:02:58.240 And I hadn't seen it, I guess it was an older interview with Felix Rodriguez.

00:03:03.240 Oh, yeah, a couple of years old.

00:03:04.900 But it aired recently.

00:03:06.160 Yeah.

00:03:06.400 You put it on again, and he's really good friends with my uncle, Don Gregg.

00:03:12.200 That's the CIA guy, exactly.

00:03:15.140 And Don is still with us.

00:03:16.500 He's now 95.

00:03:17.980 And he, I think they talk at least once or twice a year.

00:03:21.320 And he always loves, he's a great storyteller.

00:03:23.420 I always love telling the story about when he was station chief in Vietnam in the 70s.

00:03:27.740 And they had some kind of party, you know, like almost like an ambassador type deal.

00:03:31.540 And Felix would come in from the battlefield with his fatigue, with hand grenades strapped to his belt and mud on his boots.

00:03:38.100 And like, you know, I can only say for a few minutes, Don, I'm going to go.

00:03:41.180 It's like, so seeing him, because I've never met Felix, was like, wow, that just all kind of came together.

00:03:45.940 Like, you have some great guests.

00:03:47.120 It's really cool.

00:03:47.800 Thank you.

00:03:48.160 He's a great guy.

00:03:50.100 Phenomenal guy.

00:03:50.560 Yeah, I just saw him in Florida at the governor's inaugural or inauguration.

00:03:59.040 Right.

00:03:59.340 Uh-huh.

00:03:59.660 And he's aged quite a bit.

00:04:02.660 Well, he's in the 90s now as well, right?

00:04:04.760 Yeah.

00:04:04.860 Of course.

00:04:05.180 So I want to, I have so much to talk to you about.

00:04:09.080 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:04:09.400 I need you to get that out.

00:04:09.900 Because you're kind of like an expert on everything.

00:04:12.740 And, but I want to hear about, I, it was an awkward interview when you were telling Joe

00:04:22.980 Rogan about your turn to Christianity.

00:04:27.620 And I don't, I just don't think he understood, you know, I don't think he understood it exactly.

00:04:33.920 I'm not throwing him under the bus.

00:04:35.440 No, no, I actually, he was very kind.

00:04:38.020 And I knew he would be kind.

00:04:39.920 And I also knew that I had to say this.

00:04:41.680 It had to get out.

00:04:42.740 The Holy Spirit was working through me big time.

00:04:45.800 You were an atheist.

00:04:47.420 Totally.

00:04:47.840 You are now talking about the Holy Spirit.

00:04:50.340 I know, I know.

00:04:50.980 Crazy.

00:04:51.340 Well, as I explained then, and I think we talked about it the last time we were together,

00:04:56.500 I talked about Naomi Wolf, who had written these sub stacks.

00:04:59.980 And, you know, she's, she now is, I guess you would call her a messianic Jew.

00:05:03.500 And she converted to Christianity because she was in all the hoity-toity Upper East Side,

00:05:09.040 you know, elite dinner parties and hearing these people talking, you know, financially

00:05:13.640 about how they were going to screw people or didn't care about, you know, just people.

00:05:17.640 And, and she concluded that that's evil.

00:05:20.560 These people aren't evil, but there's evil there.

00:05:22.700 There is evil.

00:05:23.340 And the conclusion is, then there has to be a good side.

00:05:26.620 And so exactly what I, what I told Joe is, I have always approached all the conspiracy

00:05:32.700 theories.

00:05:33.380 I love it.

00:05:33.940 You know, I've, I've learned a lot from you.

00:05:35.340 It always ends with George Soros at the end of the Blackboard.

00:05:37.820 It's always George Soros.

00:05:38.840 It's always George Soros at the end.

00:05:40.240 And I wish we would have left him on that studio that looked like the moon.

00:05:44.260 Unfortunately, now Alexander is up next.

00:05:46.500 So we got to keep an eye on him.

00:05:47.700 He's worse.

00:05:49.440 And, and I, I just started to study it and I just started to read, read books and, you

00:05:54.140 know, within two, three weeks, I was like, uh, this is real.

00:05:57.600 There is so, and there's even these days, even more evidence.

00:06:01.160 Uh, was it, uh, it's a Metaxas, I think is his name.

00:06:04.440 He just wrote a book.

00:06:05.080 Yeah, Eric Metaxas.

00:06:05.360 Eric Metaxas.

00:06:06.020 Oh, yeah.

00:06:06.120 Have you, have you spoken to him?

00:06:07.120 Oh, yeah.

00:06:07.400 I have a good friend.

00:06:07.940 Phenomenal guy.

00:06:08.960 Amazing.

00:06:09.540 Yeah.

00:06:09.700 His book about, um, uh, atheism.

00:06:13.800 And it's just like, wow, there's so much out there and so much written.

00:06:17.500 And it's far surpasses anything you could read about 9-11 or JFK or any of that stuff.

00:06:23.020 So, and, and then it just grabbed me.

00:06:25.020 And I, luckily my wife is on the same journey with me at the same time.

00:06:29.800 Oh, that's fantastic.

00:06:31.040 Yes.

00:06:31.660 Was she an atheist too?

00:06:32.700 Yeah.

00:06:33.140 And well, she grew up Catholic, but you know, totally lapsed and, uh, and it never really

00:06:38.260 grabbed her.

00:06:38.900 And she, I think she'd been looking, I knew she'd been looking longer than I had.

00:06:42.380 I mean, I grew up, my parents were Unitarian.

00:06:44.700 It was like, yeah, I know.

00:06:46.220 So, all I remember is we, we drove at three in the morning for hours, went up on a hill

00:06:51.040 and then at sunrise played Cat Stevens, morning has broken.

00:06:53.800 And I'm like, Unitarianism is not for me.

00:06:56.440 And neither is Cat Stevens.

00:06:58.140 The first time that I ever went to a, uh, Unitarian church, it was on the town green in Connecticut.

00:07:05.760 And, um, I went in and I'm sitting there and halfway through preacher gets up to give

00:07:11.760 a sermon and he said, now y'all know that I don't believe in God.

00:07:16.220 But, they should have that on the door someplace outside.

00:07:22.540 What was really interesting though.

00:07:24.320 And I didn't really witness it all up that close.

00:07:26.360 My dad was the last 10 years of his life.

00:07:28.600 He was in, you know, basically deteriorated and he was in a home.

00:07:33.220 Uh, but he decided about three years before he passed, he became a Christian.

00:07:37.880 He got baptized and everything.

00:07:39.360 Now he's living in the Netherlands.

00:07:40.940 So it was a little, a little distant for me and we didn't really have a great relationship.

00:07:45.160 So now it's kind of interesting.

00:07:46.500 Like, oh, you know, I'll see you again and we'll, and we'll have a, we'll, we'll have a

00:07:50.300 different relationship.

00:07:51.360 Yeah.

00:07:52.060 Uh, but that all these things were, were nudges.

00:07:54.260 All these things were little, little clues.

00:07:56.100 And man, once you, once you accept that, I got baptized, you know, literally, um, on April

00:08:02.200 19th, I was like, it was such a phenomenal moment.

00:08:06.080 Um, and the people that come into your life, the, how things change is, it's really mind

00:08:12.540 boggling.

00:08:13.400 So that's what, that's what I think.

00:08:15.200 Uh, when I was watching you with Joe, I, I, I wanted to ask the question instead, how

00:08:22.660 have you changed?

00:08:24.120 How is this?

00:08:25.220 Cause I, I look, I don't, when it comes to religion, I have my belief in religion, but

00:08:31.860 God is different than religion.

00:08:34.360 You know what I mean?

00:08:35.180 Yes.

00:08:35.460 And I found my religion, I found my religion is a great framework for me to help me be a

00:08:43.960 better man, whether we die and, you know, we wake up, you know, in a dirt box, I'm going

00:08:50.780 to be surprised.

00:08:52.200 Uh, but I've, I was a better man while I was alive because of that.

00:08:56.920 So how have you changed?

00:08:58.980 Well, the first thing is I've, I've realized that he has been working through me for a long

00:09:03.600 time.

00:09:04.160 Always.

00:09:04.560 It was, I remember very well, 1990 is when, you know, there's this, you know, uh, and

00:09:09.160 I love scripture and stuff sticks in my head.

00:09:11.440 And, you know, I was like, um, if by worrying, can you gain a single hour of your life or

00:09:16.220 don't worry about tomorrow for tomorrow has enough to worry about itself.

00:09:19.440 And there was a moment in 1990 where I was fired for the seventh time by MTV and I had,

00:09:24.860 you know, a hundred bucks in the bank mortgage.

00:09:26.860 I had a, a two year old child, all this stuff.

00:09:29.780 It's like, and, and I was so freaked out for days and days and days.

00:09:33.340 And then all magically, uh, MTV called, they hired me back for five times the amount, you

00:09:38.860 know, all this stuff happened.

00:09:39.800 And I decided never again, am I going to worry about, certainly not about money, just not

00:09:43.640 going to worry about it.

00:09:44.360 Never have never really cared about it that much.

00:09:46.900 Um, and now I realize all the things I believe even the invention of podcasting was him working

00:09:52.000 through me all the way through what we're doing now with podcasting 2.0.

00:09:55.700 And now, um, I realized with no agenda, uh, you know, the podcast John and I do it's, there's

00:10:03.420 a lot that has been channeled through me and it comes from our boots on the ground people.

00:10:07.620 And, and man, once I professed my faith, the amount of Christians who stood up and said,

00:10:12.800 we've been praying for you for 10 years, you know, it was about, about time.

00:10:16.760 So that has made me a much better man.

00:10:20.040 And just in so many ways, I'm, I have much more patience.

00:10:24.660 Uh, I am really starting to understand, you know, love, not as a chemistry, but, you know,

00:10:29.220 truly what God and religion is about.

00:10:32.340 Um, I am a quick to listen, slow to answer, slow to get angry, you know, these types of

00:10:37.720 things.

00:10:37.920 I don't get angry.

00:10:39.240 Um, and we all get annoyed by stuff.

00:10:41.960 I'm still divinely human, but, um, how I approach people, uh, completely different.

00:10:49.500 I mean, even George Soros, you have to see him in 3d.

00:10:52.220 I know you have to see all aspects of it to understand where he's coming from.

00:10:55.660 So I don't hate, you know, that's, that's, that is, so I have been saying recently, ringing

00:11:01.660 the bell pretty hard.

00:11:03.160 You know, you probably know this, the, the history of the Weimar Republic, we're repeating

00:11:09.620 it right down to transgenderism.

00:11:11.620 Yes, exactly.

00:11:13.540 And what happened in Germany, Dietrich Bonhoeffer always thought he was missing something that

00:11:19.000 Gandhi had done, but he hadn't.

00:11:21.960 It's that the churches, the Christians had already closed their hearts and they were looking

00:11:27.740 for...

00:11:28.060 Sing louder so we don't hear the children screaming as the trains go by.

00:11:31.400 Right.

00:11:31.860 And we're looking for somebody to, to fix this problem.

00:11:36.500 Yes.

00:11:36.780 And if we don't prepare our hearts, so we love the...

00:11:40.840 If you don't understand, we're all God's children.

00:11:44.180 And I don't know about you, but I want all my children with me.

00:11:48.060 You know what I mean?

00:11:48.820 If one of them's lost, go out and see if you can help my child.

00:11:52.560 You know, I want them all back.

00:11:54.740 He's the same way.

00:11:56.260 So us hating the ones who hate us is absolutely not the way to go.

00:12:01.320 And unfortunately, that, that hate is in general, the American media model.

00:12:07.000 This is how social media works.

00:12:09.100 This is how cable television news works.

00:12:12.360 I mean, all they do all day is yell at the other guy, you know, and oh my God, Tucker's

00:12:16.060 gone.

00:12:16.280 Who are we going to yell at now?

00:12:17.140 Well, yell about Tucker on Twitter, yell about Elon, whatever.

00:12:19.920 Just yell, yell, yell.

00:12:20.960 Right.

00:12:21.160 And of course, that's why politicians love that because, you know, that's ultimately also

00:12:25.540 money, you know, if you want to be on a committee, you need a million bucks, you know, so they

00:12:29.100 need money, need to raise money, the super PAC.

00:12:31.180 So they use the same, the same strife and opposition.

00:12:35.700 And it's, we get spun up, we get so spun up.

00:12:39.080 And, and of course, I still, I can get spun up too.

00:12:42.220 We all get spun up about stuff, but it doesn't help.

00:12:45.280 It just doesn't solve anything.

00:12:47.740 It's not the answer.

00:12:48.840 Have you had a different view of, I mean, you just talked about your friends in New York,

00:12:53.160 you know, that it was evil.

00:12:55.360 She saw that it was evil.

00:12:57.600 I am shocked at how clearly evil has presented itself.

00:13:06.360 Now, I mean, it's, it has, we've gone from a good place that had some evil to an evil

00:13:14.640 place that has some good, or at least it feels that way.

00:13:17.900 So have you had a different view and outlook on what we're facing?

00:13:25.220 Well, we're facing Satan.

00:13:26.680 There's no doubt about it.

00:13:27.680 I mean, it's not bad people.

00:13:29.620 It's just people who've been completely captured.

00:13:31.760 The sad part is what big pharma has done to us.

00:13:34.900 And COVID, you know, a lot of this was really cemented with, with COVID and trust in the science,

00:13:41.300 believe the science, science is your God.

00:13:43.060 And, and, and, and, you know, this is why people still walk outside, you know, with a

00:13:47.500 mask on is because they have been completely captured by a force.

00:13:54.840 Some people will unfortunately have to get voted off the Island.

00:13:57.860 We cannot save everybody, but I'd like to.

00:14:00.060 So for me that, you know, trying to, and this was even before, before I came to, to God and

00:14:09.240 Jesus, I was already kind of telling my audience, like, you know, if someone comes to you and

00:14:14.160 says, Hey, you know, I think I kind of screwed up with that.

00:14:16.480 And I'm sorry, family members, um, let them back into your heart.

00:14:20.260 And a lot of people like, I'm never going to forget this.

00:14:22.600 I'm not, that's not going to work.

00:14:24.600 It's just, it's a, it's a short term solution.

00:14:26.800 You really have to, but it's hard and it's scary.

00:14:30.580 I mean, when I professed to, to Joe, it was scary, you know, because I didn't know what

00:14:36.560 was going to happen, but I, I was like, I got to do this.

00:14:39.480 I got to tell everybody what happened, Glenn, is this went viral.

00:14:43.860 There, there were pastors showing clips of me with Rogan in church and saying, pray for

00:14:49.960 Adam so he can pray for Joe.

00:14:51.220 I mean, this, this is insane that what happened.

00:14:54.860 And I think just like in 1966, you know, famous time magazine cover is God dead.

00:14:59.920 That was only three years before the Jesus freaks came out.

00:15:03.060 Jesus revolution.

00:15:03.980 Great movie, by the way.

00:15:04.960 I love that movie.

00:15:06.720 Um, and it feels like we may be in a similar point in history.

00:15:14.100 I think we are.

00:15:14.720 I, I, it feels like it, you know, Aslan is on the move, you know, something is happening

00:15:19.500 here.

00:15:19.880 Um, and you know, for us to even have this conversation, you know, maybe in the eighties

00:15:25.540 and nineties, we would be totally seen as kooks.

00:15:27.940 That's not that way anymore.

00:15:29.480 It just isn't.

00:15:30.520 It's really, it's, it's very interesting.

00:15:32.620 Cause I just, a year ago I was railing on, I think we have a lot of Christians that don't

00:15:39.260 believe in Christianity because they'll say, what are we going to do?

00:15:42.740 And I'd be like, follow the Lord, just follow the Lord, do what he says, do the next right

00:15:49.860 thing and we'll be okay.

00:15:51.700 And they'd be like, yeah, yeah, well, I'm doing that.

00:15:54.040 But what are we going to do about, you know, the, the way the world is?

00:15:57.660 And I'm like, you know, miracles, right?

00:16:01.840 He pray.

00:16:02.520 How about pray?

00:16:03.180 Let's pray.

00:16:03.560 He rose from the dead.

00:16:05.260 That's a lot harder than fixing America.

00:16:08.120 You know, that's a very good point.

00:16:10.560 Yeah, that was, that was a good one.

00:16:12.980 Um, there's so much scripture that I find incredibly helpful for me personally.

00:16:19.100 Um, like in the morning first, you know, I asked the Holy Spirit, just fill me up, just

00:16:24.380 fill up my buckets, man.

00:16:25.420 I'm just going to, I'm just going to splash out goodness everywhere I can go.

00:16:28.100 This is from my pastor, uh, Jimmy Pruitt.

00:16:30.260 He taught me all this.

00:16:31.680 Um, but particularly with you and I do, you know, I, I, I put on the breastplate of righteousness,

00:16:40.160 you know, I've, I've got my, my, my feet firmly planted my shoes in, uh, in the, in

00:16:45.400 the good news.

00:16:46.120 I've got my shield of, uh, of truth.

00:16:48.700 I've got my, uh, my helmet of, uh, of salvation, you know, and I've got my, I have my sword by

00:16:54.480 my hand of, um, of the word of God.

00:16:56.760 And it really seems to work.

00:16:58.640 This is the thing.

00:16:59.500 And prayer works and love loving people works.

00:17:03.880 It's not easy.

00:17:04.740 And, you know, and, and you have to work at it.

00:17:07.680 Um, but we work at so much.

00:17:09.100 There's so much that we do.

00:17:10.460 At times, my wife and I have an agreement that whenever we get into an argument, we will

00:17:15.840 stop and say, let's get down on our knees and pray.

00:17:19.580 And we, it's always solved.

00:17:22.200 Always.

00:17:22.700 No matter how bad it was, always solved after the prayer.

00:17:26.220 But there, there are times when it'll come to mind, get down on your knees and pray.

00:17:31.400 And it'll be like, oh, I want to win.

00:17:34.120 You know what I mean?

00:17:34.640 It's just so against the natural man.

00:17:38.200 It is.

00:17:38.600 But you know, this, this is a, this is not a war of the flesh, man.

00:17:41.180 This is a war of the spirit.

00:17:42.520 It's a spiritual war.

00:17:43.680 And unfortunately we're fighting each other, you know, and that's, and it's, it's, it's

00:17:48.080 interesting to me.

00:17:49.000 You bring up the, the, uh, full armor of God.

00:17:53.460 Cause I've pondered that so many times that your feet are shod in the gospel of peace.

00:17:59.720 So that's taking you away from, you know, jamming that sword through somebody, the helmet of

00:18:07.940 salvation.

00:18:08.800 You can't do anything until you get rid of the past and you're not thinking about all

00:18:15.580 of the mistakes and you're, you're clear and in the present, you know what I mean?

00:18:19.940 It's just such a, and the, the, the, the shield of truth, it's just, you just hold the truth

00:18:28.320 up in this, in these days, all of this makes sense now.

00:18:32.140 Yeah, it does.

00:18:33.580 And, and it works.

00:18:34.480 And, you know, the one thing I know is, you know, I don't get to preachy with people.

00:18:37.780 Sure.

00:18:38.140 You know, if anyone, just like my friend, I woke up one day and said, what are these

00:18:41.520 Christians doing around you?

00:18:42.480 Who are these men I'm working with?

00:18:43.660 And they're all Christians, you know?

00:18:44.680 And, and, you know, oh yeah, I pray for this, I pray for that.

00:18:47.220 And when you ask questions, they were happy to answer me.

00:18:49.580 Yeah.

00:18:49.840 And they didn't jam it down your throat.

00:18:51.340 No.

00:18:51.560 Same thing with me.

00:18:52.160 It doesn't work.

00:18:52.780 Doesn't work with your kids.

00:18:53.780 Doesn't work with anybody.

00:18:55.000 You know, just, just let it go.

00:18:56.420 Best, best conversion is, it comes from just great examples.

00:19:03.060 Absolutely.

00:19:03.580 And there are quite a few.

00:19:04.700 They are.

00:19:05.200 There are.

00:19:05.780 There are.

00:19:06.300 There are.

00:19:06.620 And, and, and just, you know, look at media, you know, as we said, Jesus revolution, that,

00:19:10.180 you know, that movie wasn't expected to do more than $7 million.

00:19:12.480 It's, what is it, $70 now?

00:19:14.520 Yeah.

00:19:14.880 It's amazing.

00:19:16.060 The Chosen, you know, very successful TV series.

00:19:20.720 Is this.

00:19:21.120 And isn't it interesting?

00:19:22.100 There's so much money to be made there.

00:19:24.560 And.

00:19:25.280 Yeah.

00:19:25.860 It never goes there.

00:19:27.260 There's so much money to be made in just, doesn't even have to be wholesome little house

00:19:32.920 in the prairie.

00:19:33.940 Just not having everybody, you know, making out, you know, having sex, swearing, using the

00:19:41.700 F word all the time, something that the entire family could sit down and watch and they don't

00:19:47.440 make them.

00:19:48.000 I mean, I grew up with the little house on the prairie.

00:19:49.600 Yeah.

00:19:49.760 Me too.

00:19:50.380 We're the same age.

00:19:51.500 And the Waltons and all the stuff.

00:19:52.820 And we love that.

00:19:53.500 You know, that, that was cool.

00:19:55.080 Yeah.

00:19:55.400 You're right.

00:19:55.820 But that's all.

00:19:56.360 I mean, that's one of the main things has changed for me.

00:19:58.800 I don't cuss as much.

00:20:00.040 I've really gotten a lot better at that.

00:20:01.860 It just, it doesn't make sense.

00:20:04.240 And when you change your words, you're changing your world.

00:20:07.560 Yeah.

00:20:07.760 There's a lot to that.

00:20:09.000 So using different words, looking at, at words, listening, listening to what people

00:20:13.220 are saying.

00:20:14.380 And I remember I was, I was on a top 40 radio station when I changed and everybody used

00:20:20.820 to say that, you know, that I, my slogan was, I hate people because they really drove

00:20:28.760 me nuts.

00:20:29.380 But really what it was, this was up in Connecticut.

00:20:33.000 And, and I was at the end of my career, Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut, no, New Haven.

00:20:38.980 Oh, okay.

00:20:39.440 Yeah.

00:20:39.740 I was at the end of my career.

00:20:41.920 And, and I am, I turned my life around.

00:20:46.640 I sober up, I find God and I'm on the phone on doing, you know, stuff on the air and I'm

00:20:54.300 talking to people on the phone and they're usually just very quick conversation.

00:20:58.060 You know, it's top 40, move, move, move.

00:20:59.980 Amen.

00:21:00.580 And I am, I'm, I'm actually like talking to people.

00:21:04.620 And because I'm for the very first time fascinated because I, all of a sudden I care about people.

00:21:12.440 You know what I mean?

00:21:13.200 Yep.

00:21:13.540 And it is such a cool discovery from going from a guy who really hated people.

00:21:20.120 Like don't want to talk to them to tell me about yourself.

00:21:24.360 What are you doing?

00:21:25.400 What are you exploring?

00:21:26.300 What's happening?

00:21:26.980 It's, is fun.

00:21:27.980 It turns out when you ask people to talk about themselves, they talk a lot and they got lots

00:21:31.560 of things to say.

00:21:32.400 Yeah.

00:21:32.700 And usually a lot of really important and good things.

00:21:35.860 There's one thing, there's one actual change I've made.

00:21:38.860 Um, I kind of tried to ditch the smartphone.

00:21:42.580 I got a light phone.

00:21:43.680 If you've heard of this, the light phone too, which is almost like a mini Kindle.

00:21:47.760 And it just does text message and calling and, and so I noticed now that if I'm in the checkout

00:21:54.980 line at H-E-B, which is, you know, our Texas supermarket, um, instead of doom scrolling,

00:21:59.960 doing whatever, um, I'm observing people and I'll talk to the guy behind me and have a little

00:22:04.940 conversation.

00:22:05.580 And it's really been enriching.

00:22:07.060 That is a lot of what we do on our phones is, is, uh, drawing us in and taking us to dark

00:22:13.180 places.

00:22:13.920 Isn't it amazing?

00:22:14.780 We pray.

00:22:16.400 Yeah.

00:22:16.840 And we're, our head is bowed to our, our device.

00:22:20.740 Yeah.

00:22:21.120 Um, it has become our God.

00:22:23.960 More with Adam Curry here in a second.

00:22:26.100 First, you work hard for the money you earn.

00:22:28.160 And if you're like me, when you have to spend that money, you per spend, you prefer to spend

00:22:32.140 it on things that are made, right.

00:22:34.460 That you have to buy once.

00:22:35.800 And preferably are made here in America, uh, you know, and not some crazy ESG company.

00:22:44.980 Having things made in America is not just patriotic.

00:22:47.720 We have to start making things again.

00:22:50.960 Um, we, we have to be creators again.

00:22:55.020 Made in America meant something.

00:22:57.600 It lasts longer.

00:22:58.780 It was built better, but it also came with a sense of pride.

00:23:02.700 One of the reasons why I love partnering with companies like grip six is you're getting

00:23:08.040 that true American experience.

00:23:09.820 A guy who literally was in his house, may have been in his garage, um, and talking to

00:23:14.860 a friend and they were talking about, I think it was wallets.

00:23:17.160 And he was like, there's a better way to make this.

00:23:19.200 And they're completely different.

00:23:20.520 And, but he said, if we're going to do this, he made his friend a wallet and his friend

00:23:25.000 said, we should make these.

00:23:26.540 He said, if we're going to do, we have to do it all in America.

00:23:28.700 So then now they make wallets, they make belts, all kinds of things.

00:23:31.640 And their socks are tremendous.

00:23:34.500 True American business pioneers.

00:23:37.600 I want you to try their, some of their products.

00:23:39.860 Just go and look.

00:23:41.020 Their socks truly are great.

00:23:42.520 Grip six.com slash back.

00:23:45.340 That's grit six.com slash back.

00:23:48.760 The turning point in our children's lives was high school getting devices.

00:23:57.840 They didn't have phones.

00:23:59.120 They didn't have access to social media, none of it.

00:24:03.120 And that changed them.

00:24:06.060 It changed them.

00:24:06.840 I think it is the great destroyer of our time.

00:24:10.780 Well, I have a daughter and two stepdaughters who kind of grew up with the transition from

00:24:15.300 the T-Mobile sidekick to the, to the smartphone, which came 2007 with the iPhone.

00:24:22.140 And I, especially with girls, I mean, girls are the target.

00:24:26.580 Girls are so mean.

00:24:27.820 Girls are the target.

00:24:28.820 Well, they're mean anyway in middle school, but they are the target.

00:24:31.880 They are the target of everything.

00:24:33.980 They're just, they're being targeted.

00:24:35.120 And it wasn't really until 2008, more or less, when we saw a huge increase in cutting, all

00:24:43.960 kinds of eating disorders.

00:24:46.080 Do you understand the cutting thing?

00:24:48.100 Because I don't understand it.

00:24:50.100 No, I don't.

00:24:50.980 I don't.

00:24:51.720 I mean, intellectually, you can tell me a lot about it, but that, you know, I'm, I'm afraid

00:24:56.160 to even get a, you know, an, an IV.

00:24:58.120 You know, I can't imagine any of that, but it's, it's an obvious, it's huge distress.

00:25:02.720 It's huge distress.

00:25:04.340 And, uh, and I totally believe that what we're seeing now with, um, with transgenderism, which

00:25:10.660 of course there's a real body dysmorphia issue.

00:25:12.960 People have that people who literally don't want to have a leg and will, they can't, aren't

00:25:17.020 happy until it's amputated.

00:25:18.040 But we wouldn't do that.

00:25:20.120 No.

00:25:21.100 Um, well, this is the pharmaceutical industry.

00:25:24.320 Um, and I've, I've had a lot of conversations about this on our show.

00:25:28.120 Um, where the American association, the American psychology association, the American association

00:25:33.520 of pediatrics, just like COVID, they control the doctors.

00:25:36.660 You know, you can, if, if a patient comes to you and says, I'm confused about my sexuality,

00:25:41.980 which is very normal for teenage girls, you know, cause it's like, well, do I want to

00:25:45.820 be like Kim Kardashian and get the boob job?

00:25:48.660 Or do I want to be something else?

00:25:50.300 And the answer is written out in the rules for the, for the therapist, you're a boy.

00:25:56.080 And here's the path that you go down.

00:25:57.840 And they can't deviate from that without losing their insurance, losing their practice.

00:26:02.440 I mean, it's horrible.

00:26:03.460 I have friends who have lost their practice.

00:26:05.980 Since we've been talking about this, people have come out of the woodwork and there's

00:26:09.200 some very brave therapists who say, I got it.

00:26:11.540 I have to talk about this, but this, this is a problem.

00:26:14.840 And doesn't that frighten you again?

00:26:16.920 Germany.

00:26:17.300 What Mengele was doing was exactly, was all fine and standard in Germany.

00:26:25.020 They had shut up and, and pushed out any doctor that was going to have a problem with it.

00:26:33.300 So you were left with these people that had no real sense of humanity in them.

00:26:40.280 Dangerous, dangerous.

00:26:41.740 What all surprises me is, you know, I grew up in the Netherlands and I went to play at

00:26:46.740 friends' houses and their grandmas had numbers on their arms.

00:26:50.220 And, and, you know, the, we didn't know, we, you know, never again, but here we are.

00:26:56.400 Where are the voices saying, well, we got to stop.

00:26:58.820 You know, we're at the never again moment.

00:27:00.300 But, um, so having, luckily as bad as the internet can be, you know, we can have this conversation.

00:27:07.020 It can be seen by millions around the world.

00:27:08.820 So it's good.

00:27:09.520 I mean, it's the same, everything, the internet, America, the internet, you, me, are you good

00:27:16.600 or bad?

00:27:17.260 The answer is yes.

00:27:19.460 You know, there's precisely, there is just depending which direction is it headed or is

00:27:24.260 it getting better or worse?

00:27:25.520 Are you using it to, and things are getting better?

00:27:28.000 We just don't seem to recognize that, um, uh, let me, uh, let me switch gears to, um,

00:27:36.040 a few things that I know you have studied all these that honestly, Adam, I am changing

00:27:42.860 so much.

00:27:43.840 I've changed so much since 2020, you know, 1995, I sober up, I get baptized by 99.

00:27:52.960 I started doing talk radio 2000 and I thought, you know, okay, well.

00:27:57.500 I'm set.

00:27:58.220 I'm coasting.

00:27:58.780 I'm good.

00:27:59.300 Yeah.

00:28:00.140 Nope.

00:28:00.780 Almost everything I believe has changed deeply.

00:28:04.600 And I don't know if it's always been this way.

00:28:07.040 Um, but one thing, let me start with this.

00:28:10.400 The one thing I'm really concerned about is we are erasing history.

00:28:15.340 We're erasing, um, uh, America.

00:28:19.340 Our whole story is going to be gone.

00:28:21.640 If, if we don't, if, if the other side wins, if you will, it'll be gone.

00:28:27.140 It'll be gone.

00:28:28.400 And I've been trying to get a space suit, anything.

00:28:31.500 I'm talking to, um, uh, Charlie Duke.

00:28:35.140 He was, uh, I think on Apollo 14 and I'm asking him what in your mind would prove that we have

00:28:44.940 gone to the moon to space, gone to the moon at all.

00:28:47.740 Yeah.

00:28:48.420 And because I think, and they're already seeing it, Russia is already putting propaganda out

00:28:54.580 that we didn't go to the moon.

00:28:56.320 That number is on the rise.

00:28:57.920 We went to the moon.

00:29:01.620 I'm not so sure.

00:29:02.780 I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Glenn.

00:29:04.780 Um, the thing that bothers me is, you know, we erased the tapes, you know, we've lost all

00:29:09.300 the evidence.

00:29:09.880 As you say, we've lost all, we were losing so much evidence.

00:29:13.660 Um, I would love to see someone go to the moon right now.

00:29:17.600 And we have enough rich guys who are doing it.

00:29:19.400 I would, I would really love nothing more.

00:29:21.240 I really would.

00:29:22.420 Um, there's obviously some space, you know, we've got satellites up there that are slowly

00:29:26.680 falling, it's also not the most important thing.

00:29:30.860 Um, I, I'm more concerned what we're doing on earth.

00:29:34.460 That's, that's where, you know, cyberspace is where, is where the real problems are right

00:29:38.940 now.

00:29:39.220 Yes, I agree with that.

00:29:40.320 Um, however, I'm very excited about, um, the new Starship rocket.

00:29:46.600 I mean, I don't want my government spending all that money.

00:29:50.960 Um, but if Elon Musk wants to spend that money, I think that's exciting.

00:29:56.680 That man, first of all, I kind of agree with Elon, not because of global warming, but because

00:30:02.020 we're facing a time where we have really big philosophical choices to make, and I'm not

00:30:09.640 sure we're ready to make them.

00:30:12.640 Um, so it wouldn't be bad for some humans to go off and scatter the seed around the universe.

00:30:20.860 I don't, this, we may be to have a disagreement here.

00:30:23.500 I mean, there's so much we can do here on earth, so much we can fix.

00:30:27.240 Um, we, I know where I'm going when I'm dead, you know, I already know that and I'm, I'll

00:30:32.500 get a new body.

00:30:33.240 I'll be looking forward to it.

00:30:34.260 Things are, you know, I've worked to do, but it'll be important work.

00:30:37.720 Um, to me, that's a little bit of a distraction.

00:30:40.580 It's pulling away from the things we need to fix right now, right here, because what good

00:30:46.280 will it be if you, you know, the escape is only out there.

00:30:49.860 No, I know.

00:30:50.760 I, I know.

00:30:51.460 I'm hedging my bet for humankind, but I think you and I disagree on AI.

00:30:56.480 Um, I am.

00:30:57.800 If I, I saw your, uh, your, your talk with Tristan.

00:31:00.880 Yeah.

00:31:01.340 Yeah.

00:31:01.620 So yes, I do disagree.

00:31:02.920 And he is fantastic on social media.

00:31:04.860 It was very, the whole thing he did about algorithms, et cetera, was spot on.

00:31:08.940 Spot on.

00:31:09.540 Dynamite.

00:31:10.180 He disagrees with a lot of people, um, in, uh, in the AI space, but I'm seeing a lot

00:31:16.840 of those people that, cause I've, I've been following this since the nineties, um, and Ray

00:31:22.480 Kurzweil, I am thrilled by the idea of AI.

00:31:28.620 People don't know the whole world can open up between AI and, uh, and, uh, quantum computing.

00:31:38.060 Yeah.

00:31:39.540 There are answers that will solve cancer, all kinds of stuff right at, right around the

00:31:45.980 corner.

00:31:47.140 I think we disagree there.

00:31:48.960 Um, really?

00:31:49.480 Yeah.

00:31:49.640 I, I think this is a load of horse crap.

00:31:53.000 Really?

00:31:53.400 Let's look at the timeline of AI.

00:31:54.960 So all of a sudden Microsoft starts doing something, meta, uh, Facebook starts doing something with

00:32:00.720 AI that you're hearing it.

00:32:02.200 This is a very recent history.

00:32:04.160 Uh, and then all of a sudden Google jumps in, they're running as fast as they can.

00:32:10.100 And we've got Google barred barf, whatever it's called, they demo and they lose a hundred

00:32:16.040 billion dollars in market value.

00:32:17.420 Cause the thing doesn't work right.

00:32:18.660 Why this rush?

00:32:20.380 Why wasn't Siri already talking to me in normal parlance and answering normal questions?

00:32:25.300 Because Siri is, Siri is narrow AI.

00:32:28.360 This is a totally different engine underneath it.

00:32:30.680 Let's first talk about what is AI.

00:32:32.340 So it stands for artificial intelligence.

00:32:34.040 I think it's a euphemism that is just not right.

00:32:36.440 It's not intelligence.

00:32:37.540 It's algorithms, it's, you know, versions of skip.

00:32:40.640 And a lot of people are disrespected.

00:32:42.720 The AI people really think I'm nuts to say this, but I'm looking at what are the big companies

00:32:48.300 doing?

00:32:48.700 Why do we have this call all of a sudden to stop it?

00:32:51.320 Because AI is going to eat the world.

00:32:53.140 I don't believe any of it.

00:32:54.760 Artificially, we'll call it AI, but it's not really intelligence.

00:32:57.680 You know, you're giving it a script.

00:32:59.280 It, it learns stuff and it can do things.

00:33:01.140 And because of the LLM, the large language model, it can speak and understand much better than

00:33:06.940 Siri would do.

00:33:07.880 So it's really, that's the core that got out.

00:33:10.520 And this was open source by Stanford.

00:33:12.920 And this is where it all went wrong for Silicon Valley, for big tech, because now people are

00:33:18.200 loading this on their own machines.

00:33:19.920 Right.

00:33:20.240 And where six months ago, it took $5 million to train AI on a set of data.

00:33:27.620 Now it's $500.

00:33:28.800 So if you get a hundred people, it's cost you five bucks to do it.

00:33:31.820 It is inherently a decentralized technology.

00:33:34.640 And Google cannot afford, their model is tracking you, knowing who you are, building a shadow

00:33:41.000 person of you and advertising and selling your, your behavior to advertisers.

00:33:46.100 Now, all of a sudden they've got to load up 12 gigabytes of, of computing power, not storage,

00:33:52.400 computing power to handle your AI requests.

00:33:55.280 Their business model is breaking.

00:33:56.960 That's why they need to stop.

00:33:58.420 That's why they want legislation.

00:34:00.060 Okay.

00:34:00.240 So wait, so wait, I want to make sure I understand.

00:34:02.020 So you're not saying that AI, I understand the intelligence.

00:34:07.600 I agree.

00:34:08.100 There's a difference between endless facts and figures and wisdom and knowledge.

00:34:15.920 Um, but you're not denying that AI is, that this is happening, that, that, uh, chat GPT

00:34:25.200 is a remarkable.

00:34:28.640 Well, it is doing some remarkable things, but it can't do everything.

00:34:32.600 Correct.

00:34:32.980 Correct.

00:34:33.260 This is Google's business is ask me anything and I'm going to give you all the answers.

00:34:38.520 I'm going to give you five links to ads before I give you the answers and find your own answers

00:34:42.720 down here.

00:34:43.220 Now, now we had to create this new terminology.

00:34:46.560 Well, AI sometimes hallucinates.

00:34:48.780 In other words, it gets shit, excuse me, it gets stuff wrong.

00:34:51.620 So, okay.

00:34:52.860 So I'm already questioning what is the use of this?

00:34:55.700 Now, is it, is it going to be useful for certain things and take away certain jobs?

00:35:02.240 Yes.

00:35:03.180 Uh, particularly customer service because, and it's what British telecom already announced

00:35:07.760 we're going to fire 50,000 people, 10,000 of those people because of AI.

00:35:11.080 I know I think it's because of financials.

00:35:12.880 They got to fire some people, but 10,000 jobs and customer service.

00:35:16.380 I believe it because you can take the entire knowledge base of British telecom, all the

00:35:21.020 questions people answer, and you can hone that into something that can now use this large

00:35:25.180 language model.

00:35:26.220 That's not Siri.

00:35:27.160 And can, and can speak to you, uh, the way you might get your customer service today.

00:35:31.460 So it's all, so customer service will just suck cheaper.

00:35:34.980 That's basically what, that's basically what they're going for.

00:35:38.500 Okay.

00:35:38.940 And, and so, uh, my friend is a periodontist, you know, I was just talking to him.

00:35:43.260 It was like, you know, we can load up a whole model of all the stuff, you know, about all

00:35:47.660 your patients, all the procedures you've done, everything that your knowledge and the knowledge

00:35:51.660 that is in your field.

00:35:52.800 And you can definitely create an artificial intelligence where a periodontist can say,

00:35:57.860 here's, here's this particular patient I have.

00:36:00.460 Here's the things I'm looking to do.

00:36:02.180 You know, what, you know, what strategy should I take?

00:36:04.300 That will absolutely work.

00:36:06.140 Yes.

00:36:06.460 It's not going to eat the world.

00:36:08.300 It's going to be a great tool for the periodontist, Google and Meta and all these companies, they

00:36:14.260 know that if they can't do it all, then people go towards these decentralized, you saw the memo

00:36:20.460 that came out and it's basically, we have no moat around this technology.

00:36:23.960 So what do you do in America when you don't have a moat?

00:36:26.900 You do what you do to TikTok.

00:36:28.360 It's like, Hey, TikTok's eating our advertising lunch people.

00:36:31.220 What are we going to do?

00:36:31.900 Let's get it banned through legislation.

00:36:35.140 I truly believe that's, that is the, the initial impetus for doing this.

00:36:38.600 That's the reason why I am so against any ban, because I know who's going to be writing

00:36:44.800 the legislation.

00:36:45.600 It'll be big tech writing it for the losers in Washington.

00:36:48.740 Of course.

00:36:49.200 And it'll block everyone else from having access.

00:36:52.000 That's why I liked the original open AI, uh, model.

00:36:56.580 The idea.

00:36:57.040 Right.

00:36:57.280 Yeah.

00:36:57.620 But then what'd they do?

00:36:58.380 Leave it open.

00:36:58.840 Then he, yep.

00:36:59.800 They made a commercial.

00:37:00.880 They made a commercial.

00:37:01.900 Um, so I, I think this is an arms race that is really going nowhere and they really just

00:37:07.200 want to slow it down and stop it and make sure that other people can't enter the space.

00:37:11.460 Boy, I hope you end up being right.

00:37:13.000 I really feel it's so unimpressive to me.

00:37:15.860 I mean, yeah, it's, it's great when I can ask it things and, and I use it for scripture

00:37:20.180 all the time, you know, Hey, give me some, you know, so, but you cannot train the world's

00:37:25.620 data into AI cost efficiently.

00:37:27.720 So, so let's talk about this.

00:37:29.300 Forget about the eating the world.

00:37:31.160 Um, look at what has happened just on social media with very simple algorithms.

00:37:37.600 You take that algorithm and you can train the large language model to be your buddy.

00:37:44.600 Think of the damage and how many people will fight to the death.

00:37:48.960 It's alive.

00:37:50.140 That's my friend.

00:37:51.320 It's alive.

00:37:52.360 They'll, they'll bond with these things.

00:37:56.040 Try to take somebody's phone away right now.

00:37:59.140 Correct.

00:37:59.700 Imagine when it knows you and is giving you what it wants and it might be right, might

00:38:06.340 be wrong, but you believe it.

00:38:08.380 Well, I think that goes for with or without AI, if you, you know, you're going to believe

00:38:14.340 what you want to believe and that's, you know, parenting, that's community, et cetera.

00:38:18.640 Um, I, I look forward to training my own AI for things that'll, that'll work for me.

00:38:24.100 Yeah.

00:38:24.340 And you can already do that today on your, on your home computer.

00:38:27.620 Right.

00:38:27.760 That's the whole, that, so all this fear mongering is just that, um, the algorithms on social media,

00:38:33.380 we're back to the American media model.

00:38:35.580 The whole idea was strife, you know, you know, people are talking about this, bring in someone

00:38:40.440 who has the opposite, opposite opinion.

00:38:42.100 This is why TikTok ran away with everybody's advertising lunch.

00:38:45.640 And I mean, you've heard this, you know, what's going on in, in ad, in ad business,

00:38:50.220 literally they're, and now they're entering a search advertising market.

00:38:54.200 So this is a big problem.

00:38:55.420 What they did is very much more a Chinese model of, Oh, you're all into, you know, conservative

00:39:02.280 talk, we're going to put all of you in here and we're not going to put any liberal talk

00:39:06.920 in there.

00:39:07.260 You're liberal.

00:39:08.240 This is why, um, if you, if you look around, you'll see people are, um, on one hand, I get

00:39:13.720 emails from people saying, you're wrong.

00:39:15.500 This is not about advertising money.

00:39:17.500 They want, they want this thing gone because all the patriots are on TikTok.

00:39:21.320 And then you look over here and it's like, they want TikTok gone because all the trans and

00:39:25.340 gay people are on TikTok.

00:39:26.580 What's happening?

00:39:27.460 They split it up.

00:39:28.300 They didn't use the American model.

00:39:29.900 And it turns out it's much more profitable when you don't pit people against each other.

00:39:34.820 This is what's so crazy.

00:39:36.600 So, so that is why they need it to be gone because that is not the model that works.

00:39:41.040 So you think that TikTok is fine?

00:39:44.440 We shouldn't do anything with it?

00:39:45.500 No, no.

00:39:45.800 Okay.

00:39:46.120 Because obviously TikTok is part of what got us in the situation with teenage girls,

00:39:50.800 but this has been going on since Tumblr.

00:39:52.720 I know.

00:39:53.040 Tumblr was the place where teenage girls would find out about how, how to be bulimic.

00:39:57.380 I mean, so, but it's really frightening with TikTok, with the filters where you look like

00:40:02.980 a model.

00:40:04.160 Well, and well, I think we even talked about this last time.

00:40:07.340 This is, of course, I mean, fashion in general has been doing this for a long, long time.

00:40:11.380 Right.

00:40:11.780 And, you know, and advertising, if you don't look like this, you know, if you don't, if

00:40:15.620 you don't drink our beer, you're not getting laid.

00:40:17.420 I mean, this has been going on for a long time.

00:40:18.820 So what do you think when you say the, um, uh, the girls and women are the target?

00:40:25.180 Totally.

00:40:25.840 I mean, you look at what's happening with transgenderism and it is so anti-woman.

00:40:31.240 Well, the, and the distraction is male to female transition.

00:40:36.420 That's the distraction.

00:40:37.540 It's real.

00:40:38.260 You know, we do have biological men competing in women's sports.

00:40:42.060 Correct.

00:40:42.240 But that's what the, where the outrage comes in.

00:40:44.980 Meanwhile, 80% of the transitioning is teenage girls.

00:40:49.620 Right.

00:40:50.540 And you don't hear about the affirmation generation is a fantastic documentary.

00:40:54.460 It's on YouTube.

00:40:55.620 Um, it's, uh, it's done by liberals, liberal therapists.

00:40:59.080 You know, they're all Democrats.

00:41:00.180 They, they say that, right.

00:41:01.200 And they're, and there's D transitioners.

00:41:03.200 And when you hear, um, what, what was really happening medically and parents, you need to sit

00:41:10.540 down and watch this with your, with your children.

00:41:12.740 I mean, it's, it's a little tough to watch, but it's really, really good.

00:41:17.160 And it's honest and it tells you what's happening.

00:41:20.040 Well, there's not a lot of honesty.

00:41:21.540 And the girls, they are the target.

00:41:24.360 And you know, what happened to what end?

00:41:27.940 It's, it's the pharmaceutical industry.

00:41:30.840 It's what they do.

00:41:31.900 It's what they did with COVID.

00:41:33.220 It's what they've done with, with many, many illnesses.

00:41:37.180 Uh, we've, we've taken away everything.

00:41:40.280 I mean, doctor.

00:41:40.980 Is there no, is there no one?

00:41:43.900 I mean, no one that has ethics around money.

00:41:47.940 Is that really what we've come to?

00:41:50.060 For the love of money is the root of all evil.

00:41:52.280 I know.

00:41:52.720 But I mean, well, so, I mean, we used to be able to have, uh, people that, you know, there

00:41:59.580 were evil people and, you know, where it comes to money.

00:42:02.140 And then other people are like, no, just because we can doesn't mean we do.

00:42:06.100 But it seems like everybody.

00:42:08.500 Well, everyone is, everyone is captured.

00:42:11.500 Everyone is afraid.

00:42:12.500 We all kind of live on the brink of paycheck to paycheck.

00:42:15.740 I mean, this is no surprise that not everybody can, it's not the way it used to be.

00:42:19.900 This is part of the credit system.

00:42:21.640 You know, we were already kind of captured financially.

00:42:23.740 So, in 2020, we had a no agenda meetup in Vegas and a lot of medical professionals there

00:42:30.540 were people who trained ventilator technicians.

00:42:34.440 And they said straight up to me.

00:42:35.880 Now, they could not say this in public, but they said, we're killing people.

00:42:39.920 This is the wrong protocol.

00:42:41.120 It's the wrong thing to do.

00:42:42.160 What do you read now in the news?

00:42:43.300 Oh, we killed people with ventilators.

00:42:46.560 It's so strong, the media, the money, the fear of complete annihilation as a person.

00:42:56.220 Because when credit came in, we just didn't have a way to, you know, there's no salvation.

00:43:02.280 You've got this nut at the end of the month, no matter what it is.

00:43:05.340 Right.

00:43:05.860 And people are afraid.

00:43:07.680 Of course, you know, when you come to the Lord, you get a lot less afraid about these

00:43:12.480 things.

00:43:13.340 So, that would be my message, you know, but that's not going to hit home for everybody.

00:43:19.220 But can we spend time on it?

00:43:20.880 Yeah.

00:43:21.160 Just for a minute.

00:43:22.860 More with Adam Curry in just a second.

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00:44:40.960 I am shocked at what people, you know, doctors will say, what is your stress level like?

00:44:51.520 And I'm like, you know, it's pretty high, but I'm good because I've come to this place.

00:44:57.260 It took me a long time.

00:44:58.120 But I came, I come to this place where I really truly know it all works out for whatever he wants.

00:45:06.460 So it doesn't mean I'm going to have a great time, doesn't mean, but he's got me, he's got me.

00:45:13.160 And no matter my situation, you know, my goal in life is to be, hopefully never, ever have to go through this,

00:45:21.080 but be the guy who was the guy in the concert, the priest that was in the concentration camp that was singing and teaching everybody in the barracks how to sing and be happy.

00:45:33.960 And then they had to put him in a hole and then go kill him eventually because he just refused to be unhappy.

00:45:42.020 I think, I think the version of that today and what, what we've always done kind of a no agenda through humor mainly and just, you know, mocking in a way,

00:45:51.860 is to help people not get spun up because that's the, that's the whole idea.

00:45:57.420 And when you get spun up about something, you are an easy target.

00:46:01.400 You're a target for so many things, particularly for the enemy.

00:46:04.400 You are just an easy, easy, easy, you lose everything.

00:46:07.700 And what is the number one symptom people have today, particularly children, anxiety.

00:46:13.220 It's, we all, Johnny's anxious.

00:46:15.840 I mean, it's our schooling system.

00:46:18.440 Teachers have been captured.

00:46:19.940 It's the same thing.

00:46:21.040 They are now the feedback loop.

00:46:23.500 Well, Johnny, you might want to up his meds because he's a little bit out of whack today.

00:46:27.340 And, you know, and, and this is.

00:46:29.040 That used to be controversial.

00:46:30.980 I remember in the nineties, a friend of mine had children before I did.

00:46:34.980 And it was in the late eighties.

00:46:36.140 And they were like, I'm not putting him in this school because they say, if we don't medicate.

00:46:41.340 Yeah.

00:46:41.500 Ritalin for boys.

00:46:42.800 And they, and they pulled him out of the school.

00:46:45.580 Now, everybody.

00:46:48.020 All the kids have to have a break at a 10, 15, take their meds.

00:46:51.160 Yeah.

00:46:51.380 It's like, you know, when Tom Cruise jumped on Oprah's couch and he was talking about the medicine and everything.

00:46:57.400 I watched that again.

00:46:58.620 And I'm like, I think he's right.

00:46:59.980 And at the time, I remember I wasn't, what a nut job.

00:47:03.060 What is Tom Cruise doing?

00:47:04.220 Must be that Scientology stuff.

00:47:05.760 Yeah.

00:47:06.140 Uh, it's right now.

00:47:08.980 There's an, we're in such a, a dark place, but it's, it's savable.

00:47:13.360 Our food.

00:47:14.360 So we're not eating food.

00:47:16.160 Um, you go through the supermarket.

00:47:18.600 You're just seeing processed, colorful stuff.

00:47:20.680 It's like, it's like a circus in there.

00:47:22.680 And so what happens is, you know, we have 41, maybe even 47% of all children are moving towards obesity.

00:47:32.340 Uh, and lo and behold, magic above all magic here.

00:47:37.300 Here's, and it either even took the old song.

00:47:39.200 Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, it's magic.

00:47:40.400 Here's a drug that helps you lose weight.

00:47:43.540 And it's not really, it's, it's helping you lose your lean body mass, which translation is muscle.

00:47:50.300 So you're actually losing your muscle.

00:47:52.580 Now they're taking it one step further with the competitor to that.

00:47:55.800 It's actually a brain and body drug.

00:47:57.940 And people are like, Oh, I don't, I no longer feel like drinking.

00:48:00.520 I no longer feel like smoking.

00:48:02.020 I'm no longer nail biting.

00:48:03.780 This is, I was, yeah, we got, it's, it's the, it's with a W.

00:48:07.840 I forget the name.

00:48:08.440 It's the same drug, just a different dose.

00:48:10.520 And it used to be a diabetes drug.

00:48:11.980 Wow.

00:48:12.500 As an alcoholic, I will tell you that is terrifying.

00:48:16.140 And I think it's because it's, I mean, you know, it's also lean body mass, your brain.

00:48:21.600 So maybe it's rotting away some of your brain.

00:48:23.520 But when I grew up in the Netherlands, it was the big joke about Americans.

00:48:27.080 Americans are crazy, man.

00:48:28.700 They walk around with water in a bottle.

00:48:31.660 These people are nuts.

00:48:32.680 They do something called jogging and aerobics.

00:48:35.380 You know, this was nuts.

00:48:36.880 And then they have a pill for everything in America.

00:48:39.620 And I was like, nah, it's not really true.

00:48:42.060 But now it's truly there.

00:48:44.360 And, and we don't know what half the stuff does.

00:48:46.180 We don't know half the, what SSRIs really do, you know.

00:48:50.040 But I do know that there's a high percentage of children who are on certain, I won't name

00:48:56.380 brand names, but a certain antidepressants.

00:49:00.140 And I hear from pharmacists, well, actually the suicide rate is greater on these things.

00:49:05.340 So we've got to grab control of our lives and of our children.

00:49:08.680 And I'm not, we're very fortunate.

00:49:10.620 Our, our kids, although all of them were on some kind of drug at some point, every single

00:49:14.460 one of them.

00:49:14.940 And they're now in their 26, 28 and 32.

00:49:19.060 All, all girls, all have been on some kind of crazy ass drug that didn't even exist when

00:49:23.740 I was a kid.

00:49:24.900 So we've got to, we've got to realize what's going on.

00:49:27.420 So, um, let me go, let me go back to some, cause the conspiracy theory stuff.

00:49:33.980 I never, we agree.

00:49:35.400 We're not going to talk about the moon anymore.

00:49:36.760 Yeah, no, no, no, I mean, I want to hear, I actually want to hear your evidence on it

00:49:40.920 at some point.

00:49:41.440 I've got a, I'm reading a book, I think it's called moonshot and it's a guy who says absolutely

00:49:46.000 positively.

00:49:46.620 Have you read that?

00:49:47.580 I've not read it.

00:49:48.560 Okay.

00:49:48.780 Yeah.

00:49:49.020 So, uh, I mean, I just, I, I am always fascinated with the other side and I don't, you know,

00:49:55.540 you, you choose to believe what you believe.

00:49:59.220 You're either just taught it and you're like, okay, or you'll look at both sides and then

00:50:05.840 you have to choose.

00:50:06.960 Um, and, uh, I've done that with many things in my life and one is the CIA.

00:50:13.300 I always thought CIA is in there helping us now.

00:50:17.740 Alex in action.

00:50:18.320 We jump out of airplanes and save the world.

00:50:20.180 Yeah.

00:50:20.440 Uh, now I look at the CIA and especially Jeffrey Epstein, that guy, I think had to have been

00:50:31.400 an operative for either us or somebody else.

00:50:34.320 And that was a really sick, twisted honeypot thing to gain power over people.

00:50:41.660 I don't, I mean, it's just fricking evil from start to finish, but there's no way to,

00:50:49.740 to explain it other than he was in a protected class of some sort, because no way we would

00:50:59.980 ever, if this was happening to a, a ring of truck drivers, we'd know all of the truck drivers

00:51:06.260 and there'd be torches at their houses.

00:51:08.560 This one has all of the big elites of the world from all over the world.

00:51:14.880 Um, Hmm.

00:51:17.620 And nobody wants to do anything about it.

00:51:20.860 Um, so my whole family is military and intelligence.

00:51:24.180 You know, I'm kind of the black sheep of the family.

00:51:25.760 Yeah.

00:51:26.360 Uh, I, I'm pretty sure that the FBI invented this model.

00:51:29.600 The FBI was born.

00:51:30.940 J. Edgar Hoover was born as a blackmailer.

00:51:33.380 I mean, this was, he, that's what the FBI did and, uh, CIA, um, and it's interesting

00:51:40.020 you bring this up now because, you know, we're still waiting for some actual documents

00:51:43.700 about JFK and that's another, may I say it just for a second?

00:51:47.100 Yeah.

00:51:47.540 I never bought that.

00:51:49.140 I always bought that.

00:51:50.620 It was Oswald by himself, but for the, for these documents to be held as long as they

00:51:57.220 are, and then to disobey Congress and say, no, and presidents are involved.

00:52:02.660 And then for them to release, they say they're holding stuff back because it could be damaging,

00:52:08.200 but for them to release that the CIA knew Oswald had him on their payroll at the time.

00:52:15.940 Well, now wait a minute.

00:52:16.960 Hang on just a second.

00:52:18.160 That's a whole different story.

00:52:20.820 There's some evidence that actually the mob killed JFK and the CIA couldn't, CIA knew it

00:52:25.920 and couldn't stop it.

00:52:26.920 And that was the embarrassment that they didn't want to talk about.

00:52:29.840 Maybe one day we'll find out.

00:52:31.280 You don't, you think it was mob or, cause I think.

00:52:34.440 The actual hit was likely mob, but CIA knew, they knew it.

00:52:37.860 There was a lot of reasons for it.

00:52:39.660 There was a lot of people making a lot of money.

00:52:41.720 Also the Kennedy family, you know, had some mob connections of their own, you know, some

00:52:44.960 bootlegging and stuff.

00:52:46.020 And Bobby Kennedy was not really friendly towards the mob.

00:52:49.500 You know, so there's a lot of stuff going on there.

00:52:51.100 Um, but I'll, I'll take, uh, RFK Jr.'s side any day.

00:52:55.540 Cause I think he, he's much closer to, and he's pretty adamant that, you know, the CIA

00:52:58.960 did this.

00:53:00.040 Um, but back to your premise, this CIA grew and that would, that would be like the starting

00:53:04.620 moment.

00:53:05.300 And that's all they've done is honeypotting black men.

00:53:08.900 People think that, you know, it's like James Bond stuff.

00:53:11.040 No, it's information warfare.

00:53:13.440 And then it's, it used to be where, uh, CIA would, uh, be in Uganda and, you know, and

00:53:20.200 be working for a newspaper.

00:53:21.260 And we know that this has all happened that we, you know, CIA was in the news organizations

00:53:25.060 and they'd write some misinformation, true mis or disinformation.

00:53:30.580 Um, and so that the New York time in the, in the Ugandan time.

00:53:34.260 So the New York times could then say, according to the Ugandan time, this is happening.

00:53:38.260 They don't even care about that anymore.

00:53:39.660 Sources say, according to people familiar with the matter, doesn't it, you know, so

00:53:44.260 that's all.

00:53:45.180 And you see everything that's happened the last five years.

00:53:48.260 If you go back and look at the, what the media said on the whole Russiagate stuff, it

00:53:52.420 was all intelligence sources say, yeah, say, and it turns out, you know, according to the,

00:53:58.360 uh, correct Durham report that, Oh, it was all pretty much bull crap.

00:54:03.240 Um, so what is really left for them?

00:54:05.860 Um, the evils of that, that strike men, you know, homeless.

00:54:09.660 Homosexuality, uh, prostitution, all these types of things.

00:54:13.100 It's still used a little bit like, Oh, we need to get rid of him.

00:54:16.220 Found porn on his computer.

00:54:17.880 Sorry.

00:54:18.440 You know, you're canceled.

00:54:19.840 It's the only taboo.

00:54:21.220 And it's still, it's starting to go away.

00:54:23.200 The only taboo left is sex with children.

00:54:26.400 That's pretty much.

00:54:27.180 Oh, yeah.

00:54:27.660 It's the only taboo.

00:54:28.720 That's where we're at.

00:54:29.360 So it's also very possible that a lot of people are implicated in things when they surrounded

00:54:34.600 Epstein, who may be totally, uh, uh, did nothing wrong.

00:54:40.360 I mean, that's very possible.

00:54:41.720 Uh, and they may be used, you know, or they may be implicated just by association with

00:54:47.100 Epstein.

00:54:47.840 But in general, it seems, you know, look at his townhouse, look at all the cameras,

00:54:51.720 everything that was being recorded.

00:54:52.940 It's so obvious.

00:54:54.060 Read.

00:54:54.900 Have you ever met Tim, Tim, uh, Weiner?

00:54:57.880 I think he is.

00:54:58.520 He wrote a legacy of ashes.

00:55:01.020 Great book about the CIA.

00:55:02.640 He wrote one later about the FBI, but I think by then someone had had a little chat with him.

00:55:07.380 Um, but legacy of ashes.

00:55:08.920 This was actually what brought me into, this is 15, 16 years ago.

00:55:13.480 I read this book and my uncle's in it.

00:55:15.640 In the book.

00:55:16.860 A lot.

00:55:17.400 Yeah, a lot.

00:55:17.940 He was big in the CIA.

00:55:19.080 He was, um, uh, Bush senior's national security advisor.

00:55:23.040 Iran-Contra, all that stuff happened around him.

00:55:25.500 Felix involved in all that stuff.

00:55:28.340 And, and I call him up.

00:55:29.800 I said, Uncle Don, did this really happen?

00:55:33.440 And he says, yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it.

00:55:36.180 And I'm like, oh, wow.

00:55:37.600 And then you just see, uh, now, of course, this is all the, a lot of the early stuff was

00:55:41.880 literally jump out of airplanes and save the world.

00:55:44.040 But then it just got into a place of information warfare and lying and all, all of our media

00:55:52.340 is completely infiltrated and corrupt.

00:55:55.700 They've got thousands of people working in a room on writing books so that former agents

00:56:01.300 or former, um, military can go on a tour talking about stuff, you know?

00:56:07.460 And, and then we ultimately come down to the, the, the, another evil is the military industrial

00:56:12.680 complex.

00:56:13.440 Yeah.

00:56:13.600 All these things work together so well.

00:56:15.680 You know, we've got food working with, uh, with pharma, you know, let's keep people just

00:56:20.780 alive enough.

00:56:21.880 You know, we've got, uh, uh, uh, military industrial complex draining our bank account.

00:56:27.400 You know, I was just reading yesterday.

00:56:29.580 One stinger missile seven years ago cost $25,000 today it's $400,000, one stinger missile, $400,000.

00:56:40.340 I mean, we're being robbed blind and wars are being created or maintained for, to keep this

00:56:46.300 money train going.

00:56:47.520 So then we're at the bankers.

00:56:48.700 Yeah.

00:56:49.420 Central bank.

00:56:50.020 I mean, they're all, all of it, all of it.

00:56:53.080 Um, well, let me go, um, uh, back a little bit further.

00:56:59.260 The OSS beginning, we're fighting a great evil, you know?

00:57:04.420 So we get into all of this stuff.

00:57:06.980 Um, but I've been looking a lot into operation paperclip.

00:57:12.480 Oh yeah.

00:57:14.320 Okay.

00:57:15.240 Yeah.

00:57:15.460 You mean when we brought all the Nazis here?

00:57:17.100 Yeah.

00:57:17.300 And, and for them to go into rockets, uh, we excuse, I, you know, I was raised to believe

00:57:26.080 that Wernher von Braun was, he was an okay guy.

00:57:29.240 He was just, you know, into really into rockets.

00:57:32.240 No, I don't think he was necessarily a really good guy.

00:57:34.920 What I worry about though, are all the guys who were doing scientific medical experiments.

00:57:41.820 Eugenics.

00:57:42.100 Yes.

00:57:43.120 And those people were just absorbed.

00:57:47.880 I'm wondering how much of our problems today with medicine and everything else is because

00:57:55.140 we brought a bunch of Nazi doctors and just put them into the system.

00:57:59.680 I'll take it back one step further.

00:58:01.120 The American eugenics society, you know, Hitler was a fan.

00:58:05.960 I know he would send fan letters like you guys are doing great things.

00:58:09.080 And we had state fairs with beauty, children, beauty contest is your kid, the perfect kid,

00:58:14.500 the human betterment society.

00:58:16.100 There you go.

00:58:16.680 And, and we, and this is all before, before Nazi Germany.

00:58:19.800 Yeah.

00:58:20.160 And then, and then, and then, you know, we decided, well, we can, even the Supreme court

00:58:23.660 said, you know, it's probably good to sterilize some people.

00:58:26.180 We don't want a third generation of morons running around.

00:58:28.600 Right.

00:58:28.780 This was the Supreme court that made this decision.

00:58:31.080 Teddy Roosevelt said, we wouldn't breed our cattle.

00:58:34.260 You'd be put into an asylum if you just let them choose.

00:58:37.460 So now that progressed, you know, we actually did sterilize poor black women.

00:58:45.820 And then Hitler took a lot of this on and then he started doing a little more extreme

00:58:53.160 stuff.

00:58:53.800 And the eugenics people in America went, oh, well, not like that.

00:58:59.100 And they kind of retreated into the background, but did it ever go away?

00:59:02.120 I don't think so.

00:59:02.780 But so the whole, this whole slavery, black lives matter, that's so minor compared to

00:59:09.380 what, what really the genesis is of all of this stuff.

00:59:12.300 And then we brought them back here.

00:59:14.980 Um, I believe America is good.

00:59:16.780 I really do.

00:59:17.500 Under God, America is a great country.

00:59:19.740 It's worth fighting for it.

00:59:21.420 It's worth having this conversation.

00:59:23.020 Uh, because, uh, just looking around, I mean, looking the capture of, of Europe, the UK,

00:59:29.620 you can't even speak freely anymore.

00:59:31.820 If it's not us, then, then we're in for some dark times.

00:59:35.260 Um, and we have, we got to admit our history.

00:59:38.400 We've got to be honest about it.

00:59:40.120 Um, and I think most Americans will be fine with that.

00:59:44.800 Most Americans, I do believe America is, uh, is great because America is good.

00:59:52.360 And I don't mean the government.

00:59:53.560 I mean, the people of America generally, you didn't, I didn't know they were doing all this

00:59:59.300 stuff in my name.

01:00:00.860 No way.

01:00:01.960 This is the problem with them.

01:00:03.060 We are, we are good people.

01:00:04.600 And it used to be, you didn't talk about religion or politics with your neighbor and you would

01:00:08.080 actually have a cookout, hang out, talk about sports, whatever.

01:00:11.100 And then your dad might say, eh, he's a liberal nut job, but he's my neighbor.

01:00:15.520 I like it.

01:00:15.920 Right.

01:00:16.280 And we are so good.

01:00:17.340 We, we so want to be nice and kind to people, which is why when you come in and say, you know,

01:00:24.660 you're the only, only country in the world that had this horrible slavery thing, we're

01:00:29.100 shocked and we're, and we're just traumatized and not just the black Americans were traumatized

01:00:34.100 over and over and over again by this.

01:00:36.540 And, and we're being taken advantage of and, and just, you're bad and you're

01:00:41.060 horrible.

01:00:41.380 And the amount of people who literally will be sitting on a zoom call, HBO, I heard this

01:00:46.600 from someone, um, uh, a producer that it was, uh, coming up on July 4th and the producers

01:00:53.960 who were on this 20 person zoom call, HBO, uh, say, I like the holiday, but I really don't

01:00:59.720 care about America anymore.

01:01:02.280 And that's people who are making media that is influencing us.

01:01:05.260 So I, I mean, I think there's enough people to turn that around.

01:01:10.000 I think, I think enough people, uh, see the goodness of it.

01:01:13.460 Yeah.

01:01:13.860 More every day, but we have, we can't do what we did.

01:01:18.460 I think in the 1960s, um, you know, we addressed racism and then the government came up with

01:01:27.380 what I think is a very racist civil rights bill.

01:01:30.140 Oh yeah.

01:01:31.000 Yeah.

01:01:31.380 By a, by a racist president, by a racist president.

01:01:33.580 There's no way they didn't know this was, this was accomplishing all of their racist goals,

01:01:38.460 but then they do that.

01:01:40.140 Martin Luther King is shot and we're kind of like, Hey, okay, I think we solved this.

01:01:44.500 Right.

01:01:45.260 And we didn't really, we didn't as a people atone for it.

01:01:51.840 Just that's I'm, I'm reparations.

01:01:54.780 I'm not for atonement.

01:01:56.100 I am absolutely.

01:01:57.300 Oh man.

01:01:57.580 I'd love to have atonement.

01:01:58.940 Yes, we have to love to have that.

01:02:00.540 If we get through this, we, we must atone for everything that we have done because we

01:02:09.420 may not have been responsible.

01:02:10.820 We didn't know per se that all of these things were being done in our name, but it is our

01:02:17.300 name.

01:02:18.140 And if we want to fix it, then we do have to open it up and put it away in the right drawer,

01:02:24.540 not just shove it into some, some closet.

01:02:27.680 So the only way that works, I mean, we've got to get our heads out of who's going to

01:02:31.280 be president.

01:02:31.960 It's just not that important compared to your own community, your town, your county, your

01:02:37.380 state, this local community, this is where it has to start.

01:02:41.140 That's the only way we're going to have to start looking at our local schools, you know,

01:02:44.920 and I take some blame for that in the eighties and nineties.

01:02:47.040 We were partying.

01:02:47.680 I didn't look school board, you loser.

01:02:49.820 Yeah.

01:02:50.100 What are you doing?

01:02:50.620 It's council.

01:02:51.480 Like you got nothing better to do.

01:02:52.760 So we have to atone for that as well to ourselves, to our children.

01:02:56.600 And we got to get back into it and we got to start working on it with love and passion

01:03:01.980 and viewing people in 3d, because otherwise you're just going to blow up your towns and

01:03:06.220 you know, you can't do this.

01:03:07.140 And as Americans, as human beings, we're capable of that.

01:03:10.800 We really, when you really, when you approach someone and not like you're horrible and you're

01:03:14.760 left or you're right, you're this, that it actually works out.

01:03:18.400 We can actually find common ground.

01:03:19.960 Let's go have a beer.

01:03:20.720 If it's think how arrogant it is to say, I don't want to talk to somebody else.

01:03:27.860 Yeah.

01:03:28.120 It's, it's the height of arrogance.

01:03:30.740 You mean to tell me that you have no curiosity on how they came to that point of view, that

01:03:38.240 person, whether you end up agreeing or not, has nothing to teach you, nothing to share

01:03:44.380 of value.

01:03:45.660 Oh my gosh.

01:03:46.960 Well, when it's being reinforced every five minutes that you pick up your phone, I was,

01:03:51.920 we were on vacation, Tina and I, and you know, at this great little place in Jamaica

01:03:56.280 and we were just, we were truly, we were in God.

01:04:00.340 We're having a great time.

01:04:01.300 We're feeling it's very religious island.

01:04:02.780 People would, the staff would pray with us before dinner.

01:04:05.180 It was fantastic.

01:04:06.280 And, and we're literally looking at some people and it's three minutes.

01:04:10.540 Three minutes is the max time any person can go without looking at their phone.

01:04:15.460 That's what it is.

01:04:16.260 It's reinforcement.

01:04:17.440 It's, it's right there.

01:04:18.720 And, you know, you can't even get a minimalist interface on the, on the app store.

01:04:23.820 You know, they won't let you have that.

01:04:25.140 It's there to do this to you and for money, you know, it's for, I'm not saying Tim Cook

01:04:30.500 is evil, but the whole system is just rife with it.

01:04:34.180 You got to get away from it and take your kids away from it.

01:04:37.540 This screen induced autistic behavior is real.

01:04:41.400 The good news is you take the screen away after the ranting and raving for an hour, the kid

01:04:46.700 will return to normal, but you've got to do it.

01:04:49.220 So, you know, find, yeah.

01:04:52.760 I mean, we used to have to come home and the streetlights went on, you know, we had rock

01:04:55.680 fights, all that.

01:04:56.320 I mean, I, I don't want to sound like a, an old guy yelling at the clouds, but let's

01:05:00.740 be honest.

01:05:01.440 We're, we're hitting kids with dopamine every three minutes.

01:05:04.840 You just let them run rampant.

01:05:06.160 It's bad.

01:05:06.780 Yeah.

01:05:07.060 It's bad.

01:05:07.440 Just admit it and move on.

01:05:08.620 You're going to be able to, you know, you can track your kid, you know?

01:05:11.340 All right.

01:05:13.740 One last stop.

01:05:14.740 And then we come to the exciting conclusion of Glennon and Adam.

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01:05:42.460 I'm guessing it was like, no, I bought the house.

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01:06:23.400 So I have been, uh, all the whole conversation, I, uh, been thinking about a conversation I

01:06:33.520 had with, um, uh, uh, uh, the guy, he was in, um, jaws, uh, famous actor, goodbye girl,

01:06:45.020 Richard Dreyfuss.

01:06:45.440 Oh, Richard Dreyfuss.

01:06:46.160 Yeah.

01:06:46.260 So I had this conversation, his recent, uh, statement.

01:06:49.000 Yeah.

01:06:49.080 Yeah.

01:06:49.400 So he was here and we hung out for a couple of hours.

01:06:52.540 Cool guy to hang out with.

01:06:53.740 I'll bet.

01:06:54.080 I bet he's fun.

01:06:54.760 Really cool.

01:06:55.520 Yeah.

01:06:56.000 We disagree on so much, but he's done his homework.

01:07:01.720 And while I'll disagree with some of the conclusions he's made, or I think, you know, you should

01:07:06.600 augment this with maybe balance that view out with maybe some of this.

01:07:11.380 Um, I left there and I said to him, I would love to have you as a neighbor and I feel the

01:07:20.120 same way about you.

01:07:21.020 I guess I'm building a neighborhood in my mind.

01:07:23.460 Yeah.

01:07:23.680 I would love to have Richard Dreyfuss on this side and you on this side because what a block

01:07:29.220 party that would be.

01:07:30.040 Wouldn't it be great?

01:07:31.280 Yeah.

01:07:31.620 We don't.

01:07:33.020 And this is what America is missing.

01:07:35.420 We don't necessarily agree on everything, but when you do, it's, it's boring.

01:07:41.380 It's boring.

01:07:42.160 It's boring.

01:07:43.780 It totally.

01:07:44.880 And, um, and I think we're really fortunate in Fredericksburg where, where we live now,

01:07:50.000 which is, you know, it's a little small town, 15,000 people grows to 60,000 on the weekend.

01:07:54.720 We've got wineries and everything.

01:07:56.280 Too close to Austin though, for my taste.

01:07:58.540 Um, it's far enough.

01:07:59.580 It's just far enough for us.

01:08:00.980 I get your point though.

01:08:02.300 I get your point.

01:08:03.100 Um, we have lots of churches, a lot of churches in Fredericksburg and, um, our pastor happens

01:08:09.060 to head like the council.

01:08:10.340 They have a little, you know, meeting every once a month, whatever.

01:08:13.640 And, and there's some very liberal churches and, you know, some very conservative churches

01:08:17.960 and just all different denominations.

01:08:20.180 Um, but I'm seeing such wonderful things happen there and they go, they preach to their

01:08:25.980 own communities and, and we're getting to some version of that.

01:08:30.620 You know, we had a real big problem with the books in the, in the high school.

01:08:33.700 And, you know, until we have the moms for Liberty who are, you know, out to, you know,

01:08:39.120 just draw blood.

01:08:40.600 Um, and there was a calming effect that came when all the pastors and the ministers came

01:08:46.860 together and they all took each out, each other out to lunch and had, and you had a drink

01:08:51.720 and then, Hey, you know, what can we do about this?

01:08:53.780 And everyone's kind of talking to their own congregation.

01:08:56.740 It's a way, it's not the way, but it's a way that I see working.

01:09:00.380 And I'm very, very, uh, the minute, the minute I see a movement, uh, like Martin Luther King,

01:09:08.440 who was a very flawed individual, but his message was do not strike back.

01:09:16.700 This is a movement of love.

01:09:19.040 Do not strike back.

01:09:21.920 The minute I find that guy, I would follow that guy because that is, that is the only way

01:09:29.080 to solve this is to introduce true, uh, unconditional love.

01:09:36.140 I've got this great, uh, note from, um, his name was Hugh Stafford.

01:09:41.340 He was in the, um, Hanoi Hilton and his wife and children gave me a box of all of his writings.

01:09:49.980 It was just this amazing.

01:09:51.860 I love your museum.

01:09:52.800 I hope you can show it to me again.

01:09:54.740 Oh yeah.

01:09:55.020 We've got a lot of new stuff, but, uh, in it, he talks about, um, forgiveness and the way

01:10:05.500 he writes about forgiveness and don't judge other people.

01:10:10.580 You don't know if you would do the same thing if you were in his shoes.

01:10:15.440 Now he's talking about a guy who's pulling his arms out of his sockets every day.

01:10:22.020 And it's just beautiful.

01:10:25.460 This, the, the perspective this guy had, um, at the worst time of his life is just remarkable.

01:10:33.120 And there's many examples of that.

01:10:34.480 And hopefully we can get more movies and books and things written.

01:10:38.000 You know, that, that would be great to get that.

01:10:40.080 More examples.

01:10:41.040 More examples.

01:10:41.620 That's very kind of you to say, uh, I'm all, I have to say, I'm also a Malcolm X fan.

01:10:46.840 I think Malcolm X also, um, although he had a little more radical bent on it later on,

01:10:51.480 he did say, he has spoke so much truth from the black American perspective.

01:10:56.180 We, and that, that's often missing.

01:10:57.840 I like to combine those two.

01:10:59.880 There's a, there's a good mix there.

01:11:01.320 I haven't read enough Malcolm X to know the, the nuance.

01:11:06.620 It's all nuance, of course.

01:11:08.960 Um, but I've, I've studied as much as I can.

01:11:12.740 And I'm just like, wow, you know, Malcolm X got a, he has a bad marketing.

01:11:16.880 He's got some bad PR.

01:11:18.700 Um, but from the black American perspective is also completely misrepresented.

01:11:23.840 You know, and, and just like when we said, Hey, you know, not all Muslims are bad.

01:11:29.160 And the American Muslims have to stand up and say something, which some did, we still need

01:11:33.620 a lot more black American leaders to stand up.

01:11:36.260 We also need gay and lesbians to stand up and say, hold on, hold on a second.

01:11:40.520 We, we, this is, this LGBTQ plus is not a community.

01:11:44.540 We don't belong.

01:11:45.440 This is not entirely true, if not at all.

01:11:48.360 Yeah.

01:11:48.660 And they're being, they're being abused and lied about.

01:11:52.680 So we need, you know, everyone needs to step up and say something about their own side.

01:11:57.040 Of course.

01:11:57.720 Of course.

01:11:58.540 Yeah.

01:11:59.160 Great to see you.

01:12:00.440 Glenn, I love coming here, man.

01:12:01.860 I really do.

01:12:02.740 Likewise.

01:12:03.300 I love having you.

01:12:04.240 Appreciate it.

01:12:04.460 Let's, uh, plan it again.

01:12:05.940 Let's next, next time.

01:12:07.140 Let's make sure it's not a year.

01:12:09.340 Anytime.

01:12:09.960 I'm good with it.

01:12:10.360 Thank you.

01:12:16.000 Just a reminder.

01:12:17.620 I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can

01:12:22.120 be discovered by other people.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 27, 2023

Ep 187 ｜ 'Podfather' Adam Curry Was SCARED to Tell Joe Rogan THIS ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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