Ep 189 ｜ How Motherhood 'Radicalized' a Former Los Angeles 'Libtard' ｜ Bridget Phetasy ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast
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Summary
Bridget Phetasy is a writer, comedian, and podcaster. She hosts the Walkins Welcome podcast and recently started her podcast with her husband, who is also a writer and comedian. Today's guest can talk about anything to anyone with the ease of a gifted storyteller, a brilliant writer and humorist, and she's tweeted some thoughts on the future of human civilization.
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The New York Post recently published an article about single woke females. For the first time in
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American history, the majority of women between 18 and 35 are voluntarily opting out of the
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traditional pathways of marriage and parenthood. Among liberals, it has become a total obsession.
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Yet nobody on the left can answer the question, what is a woman? Birth rates are dropping for
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many reasons, some of which are downright depressing. A lot of people are asking,
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what's the point of starting a family? It's strange and it's awful and it's a suicide note
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for humanity. Because of the importance of parenthood and because it is rooted in thousands
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of years of love and meaning that is so enormous, it's often impossible to describe. The last time
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today's guest was on this podcast was three or four years ago and she wasn't a parent. She wasn't
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married. And this has led her into an incredible transformation. She hosts the Walk-Ins Welcome
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podcast and recently started her podcast with her husband. What is it like working with a spouse?
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I hope we can get to that today. Today's guest can talk about anything to anyone with the ease
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of a gifted storyteller, a brilliant writer and humorist. She's tweeted earlier this week,
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Home title lock.com. It is so good to see you. Welcome back. So good to be here. Thank you for
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having me. You were on the radio when you were pregnant. Yes. But the first time we met about
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four years ago and you look great. Thank you. You look healthy. Yeah. And I know just in listening
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to you and corresponding occasionally that you are much healthier and happier and all these changes in
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your life. Yeah. So we're going to get to that here in a second. But you were just telling me right
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before we started that you had an Uber driver from Venezuela. I just love talking to the Uber driver.
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I do too. I always talk to them. I want to know their whole story. I'm like, how did you end up in
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Dallas? How did you, he was in Florida first and then he came to Dallas and it's a really funny story
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about air conditioning sales and, and his sister was here. And so then, um, but he was talking about
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how prosperous Venezuela was. And he said, when he was a kid, he was nine years old and he was sent
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to America to learn English and, and just what he didn't really want to come here. But then he saw
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the conditions deteriorating and he started talking to me and he said that he said, I always kind of
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just gauge if my, my passengers can handle, you know, what level of conversation I can have with
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them. He said, because people have gotten really mad. And I, and then he started saying the thing
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everyone kind of says in, in private these days. And he said that the thing that they're doing where
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they're taking a five-year-old and they're saying, maybe you're not a girl. He's like, this is child
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abuse. And then he just started, you know, the only better than, uh, Uber drivers, New York,
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New York cabbies. Yeah. They're really, especially if they're old, they've, they're driving way too
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long and way too fast, but you can learn so much from him. Yeah. So he was, he was saying, you know,
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this is, he just was saying people don't people, he said, communism looks really good on paper.
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And when you're young and idealistic, it sounds great. And then he was just talking about the,
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that the people who still control the means to everything are still humans and they still want
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the same things we all want and they want to control things. And it was just funny. It was
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just a funny conversation. And he, he was like, you know, look at Venezuela. Now it's tragic.
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Look at California. Yes. I'm a refugee. I know. I know. Washing up on the beach of Texas.
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I had someone pull up to me in, in, in my town now in Texas. And he was like, go back to where you
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came from. Like, excuse me, sir. Now I know. Yeah. No, it's the, the California driving probably
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gave me away. Do you, I mean, why did you move to Texas? I mean, life is so strange. Last time I
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was here, we were, I was joking that I feel like I was, I I'm in like a giant improv where I'm like,
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yes. And now I'll go on Glenn Beck because I wouldn't have ever thought I would end up in these
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situations or places being kind of, no, it is. I think it's good to, you know, I had a friend say
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the other day, follow the truth, wherever that leads you, even if it's not somewhere you want to
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go, did you ever think you would be living in Texas? And I think part of me always wanted to
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live in, I love driving around America. Texas has always fascinated me. I think it's like its own
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ethos and its own culture and everyone immediately becomes a Texan the minute they step foot here.
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I know. It's weird, isn't it? I have, we have mutual friends who have moved here from other places
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and they're like online, you know, we need to text it. We need to, I'm like, you can't even drive.
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You're from New York. You don't even have a license. It is so true. What kind of Texan doesn't have a
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license? Yeah. It doesn't know how to drive, but immediately you get that like, you know, we're
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going to be free. And if you are born here, it's even worse. My son was five, maybe when we were
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talking about moving to Texas, he's adopted, he was born here in Texas. Okay. But he was,
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you know, soon as soon as that mom, he's up, you know, to New York and Connecticut. So he, we,
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we never talked about Texas and he's sitting at the table, five years old, sitting at the table,
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we're talking about moving to Texas. And he said, you all realize that I will be the only true Texan
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in the family. And I'm like, where does that come from? There's something in the, in the soil and
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the water. I don't know what it is. It's great. It's funny. My daughter took her first steps in
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Texas. She wasn't born here. She was born in California, but I'm like, I feel like that makes
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sense. I have friends who will argue. Absolutely not. You know, Marcus Luttrell. No. Okay. So
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Marcus Luttrell, Navy SEAL, his brother is also a Navy SEAL and doctor now. And he was still in the
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SEALs and he was in Virginia. His wife was about to give birth like days away from giving birth. And
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he calls his brother Marcus up here in Texas. They grew up in Texas. And, and he said, bro,
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I, I just want to make something clear. Even though my son is born in Virginia, he's a Texan,
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right? And Marcus seriously said, no, he'll be a Virginian. And he's like, come on, man. He's like,
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no, he'll be a Virginian. So he put his nine month pregnant wife into a car and drove to Texas and
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had the child here. Wow. Yeah. I mean, that is, that's commitment. It really is. It's so funny
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though. There is something about it where you just, it's cool. It is cool. I just, I, I'm
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definitely, it took me a minute to kind of breathe into the different pace. I've been in Los Angeles
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for 16 years and I think you forget, and I do really think that you get Stockholm syndrome living
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in these cities in California that are kind of falling apart all around you. And it was like
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when I used to go to Joshua tree and it would take me a couple of days to just let my nervous system
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calm down from being in a city, but also just be walking my daughter around and not looking around
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constantly for, I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I say every single walk I took her on,
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it was dodge someone who looks crazy or sketchy or looking around and living like that constantly,
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that fight or flight, it does something to your nervous system. So it took me,
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it took me a couple of weeks to really, really breathe into the, the, the pace and the,
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Besides the weather, do you miss anything in California?
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I'm a freak. I love this weather. Oh my gosh. I'm a, I'm a weirdo though.
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Oh, it's like 150 with 2000% humidity right now. It reminds me of Sri Lanka though, or India.
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There's just something. Oh, that's where I've always wanted to live. Nobody wants to live there.
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I love Sri Lanka. It's sad what's happening there too. Um, I, I just, I don't mind the heat. I prefer it
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over the cold. My husband luckily is the same way. And we walk out at nine, at eight when it's still 95
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and we're like, we love this. I know. Um, uh, the, uh, heat, I was just on vacation, uh, a couple of
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weeks ago, uh, in great Britain, no air conditioning. No. Okay. And it was like 80 degrees. And, and I'm like,
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no one in America would put up with this. I'm like, what is wrong with you people? And they were
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all fine with it. And I'm like, get some air conditioning. This is a 2000 year old building
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and get a window unit, put some air in this place. And everybody was fine. It's different in America
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as the, as you know, the world economic forum and all the green new deals, they're expecting us to
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not have air conditioning or not the way America has. I don't think, I think what you're doing in
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schools and mutilating kids, you add air conditioning and that's a bridge too far.
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That's when like even the staunchest libs are like, maybe Glenn has a point.
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I think I could, how could you live here before air conditioning? You could apparently, but
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well, I don't know. I mean, I can escape it. So I do get to walk in and I would worry about my
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daughter, my dog, you know, they need to be able to escape this, but there was no air conditioning
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in Sri Lanka. We always used to be like, we need an AC room. Don't they have AC here?
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I have to tell you when we were walking down London, it was so hot, uh, and hot in every place.
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And I'm walking into these stores and I'm like, no air conditioning in here either. In New York,
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we open up the front of the stores when it's really hot. So the people on the street feel the
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air conditioning. Like I got to just go browse in here for a while. The complete opposite. They think
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we're nuts. I was in Rome one year and it was so hot. And even I'm me who likes the heat. I was
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making me, I was like, imagine what it was like back then. And then you add the smell of it.
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We were in London and the river is still brown from centuries of people pooping in it or something.
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I don't know, but imagine what that was like. No, I like to imagine. We, we have it so good.
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We have it so good. The amount of complaining that goes on. It just, I'm like, we have,
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look, this is an unparalleled time in human history and we're, maybe we just need challenges
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and this is, and we're self-destructing because there's, it's not, it's not hard enough.
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And there's not, I don't know. We're so, we're away from all other countries that, you know,
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you look at Canada and you're like, I mean, you know, I'm glad I'm not living in Canada,
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but it's not that bad. You know what I mean? Mexico's got some beaches, you know, it's bad,
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but it's not like some of the rest of the world that was so far away from us. We lose context and
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we have, honestly, I think of my father always saying to me, oh, you're crying. I'll give you
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something to cry. I feel like, I feel like dad, you know, maybe in the role of God, it's like,
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oh, really? That's bad. Yeah. I'll give you something to cry about because we're whining
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and crying now. My gosh, if things turn. No, don't. I mean, there's not much there. There
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are more and more people I think who will survive it because there are more and more preppers born
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every day. I feel like it's, I was joking with my friend. I'm like, I'm not sure if I should be
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preparing my daughter for like growing her own food and hunting or like going to Mars, you know,
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it's like, what? Right. I was talking to Tim Urban about this and he has a young one too. And I'm
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like, I don't know, should I be stockpiling seeds or teaching her how to code? Not definitely not to
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code. That those days are over with AI. I mean, it's, it is a weird, uh, I read something the other
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day that, uh, the first industrial revolution was 1760. Okay. The first, second and third industrial
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revolutions from 1760 to now. Okay. All of that change will be dwarfed by the change from 2020
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to 2040. Yeah. Yeah. It's all exponential. It's, it is when you look at Tim Urban actually has
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this illustration on, it's in the intro to his book and he talks about if human history was 2000
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pages or something. And it's like the last, all of the last industrial revolution, what you were just
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talking about is all on the last page. But it was a slow and rather boring and smelly story
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before that. I was in Scotland and you'd go one place and they'd say, and you know, this is where
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the plague happened and this is how they lived. You go to another place and you know, uh, 200 years
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later, they were living like this and you're like, that's not much different. You know, it was,
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I mean, Jonah Goldberg, I think in his book talks about this too. If aliens came and checked in on
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earth, you know, every 5,000 years, it would be like, Oh, not much has changed for, for 200,000 years.
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And then suddenly you're like, wait, what happened? How did we get cars and planes?
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And it's, what's weird is I just don't think it is a coincidence that, you know, when you're,
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you're living in as a surf, you can't own land. You're, you're on the King's land. And so anything
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you do to make your life better, he'll just take, he'll make more money. People just lose. Like,
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why am I going to do that? Why would I put myself out? And then we have freedom in the idea of the
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constitution and bill of rights and America does this and the, and the rest of the world behind us,
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but still does this. And nobody connects the two. It's like all of a sudden, you know, around,
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around 1800 things just got great. You even started doing awesome. I mean, it is like our
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mutual friend, Carol Ross new book, you will own nothing, which is, is terrifying. I see these
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things that, although I was reading something the other day, I think it was just a tweet and someone
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said, Oh, you think you own your land? Try not paying property taxes. And I was like, Oh,
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right. I know. I know. I've been thinking about that. Cause you know, look at me, I'm not in the
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greatest of hell. And, and I, uh, uh, I was thinking about, you know, when you get older and
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you have kids and I want to talk to you about the changes in you already, but when you get older and
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you have kids, you start to think about leaving, you know, stuff behind and, uh, lucky for me,
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I'm going to spend it all before I die. So, uh, but, but I was thinking I couldn't leave them my
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house because if I left it to one of them and they didn't have a very good job, even if the house is
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paid for in Texas, you couldn't pay the property tax. Right. So do you really ever own anything?
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I think property tax is the most immoral thing you can do. It's so unfair. I see it in my hometown
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where it's a small new England village essentially, but it's the people who are elderly, who own their
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homes, all of these rich people come in and buy property and all the values go up and now they
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have to leave their forever homes because they can't pay property taxes. It's so wrong. It seems
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horribly wrong. Yeah. And people will, I don't know if that's capitalism doing its thing, but
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no, that's government. Okay. Yeah. That's government. Isn't it? This is like, if all of a sudden I own a
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home, a home and a bunch of rich people move in and the neighborhood values go up. Sweet. I'm great.
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Right. Because capitalism says now for me. Yeah. And when I want to, if I want to, I'm going to be
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sitting pretty. Yeah. It's government saying, uh, you don't really own that. You have to pay our taxes.
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That's nasty. I'm not smart enough to understand.
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This weekend is the one year anniversary of the overturning of Roe versus Wade. And I want to take
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a moment to recognize the over 64 million babies whose lives were taken at the hands of abortion.
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And we pray for the mothers who still mourn for their children. And we pray for the mothers who feel
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they are trapped and have nowhere to go. I think abortion is one of the saddest things. I mean,
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unless you're celebrating your abortion. Um, but I don't think most women do that. They just
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don't know what to do. Preborn honors the precious souls who never had a chance, uh, to take their
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first breath, uh, and to discover who they could become. That's we've lost a generation. Um, but
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also honors the mothers who chose life, the mothers who are still struggling in mourning because
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of what they, what they chose. Um, and doing the right thing by not dwelling in the past, but saving
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moms and their children right now to honor the 64 million deaths. We'd like you to consider donating
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$64 to honor the precious lives lost and to keep the precious lives of those at risk safe. Can you do
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that? Even 64 cents will help pound two 50. That's all you have to do. Hit pound two 50. Say the keyword
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baby pound two 50 keyword baby, or you can go to preborn.com slash Glenn. It's funny. I was joking
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that my, my whole life, the other unsettling thing about moving to Texas was becoming basic.
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just, just, just, it was like my whole life has been just trying to be, I don't know, different
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or cool, or I felt like I was always chasing some elusive sense of, of identity. And really,
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I just find so much joy and like the, the American dream, you know, I want like a nice little piece
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of land and I want a good school for my kid to go to where she can ride her bike around
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with her friends. And it's, I never, I never, I mean, I think I joked last time that if you had
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told me that I was going to quit drinking and end up on this show, I probably would have kept
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drinking, but now I can extend that to like, and be married to someone in recovery and have
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a baby, which is amazing and end up living in Texas four years ago. Oh, I know. I said
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to you at the time, you, you should move to Texas. And you were like, I mean, yeah, there
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were so many dreams of being someone, you know, California will flush that down the toilet
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every time. It's nothing but shattered people working as a waiter or waitress waiting for
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their dream to happen. I wasn't shattered. Well, maybe a little bit shattered. Was waiting
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tables. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. No, there's nothing wrong about that.
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People ever. It's if you're still, you know, you've been there for 40 years and you're still
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going on auditions. You haven't gotten anything. Such a tough industry. Yeah. Yeah. And I did
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move there with big delusional dreams of grant delusions of grandeur. Sometimes they win.
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Sometimes they work. Yeah. And sometimes it's just not really, I don't know. I still love
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doing comedy. I found that. I still, I still, it's tragic what's happened to California. And
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I know a lot of people disagree with me and they still think it's great, but I lived there
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for almost 20 years and the decline that I witnessed while I was there just around the state. And
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it's, it's such a beautiful state that it's just tragic. It is tragic. San Francisco is,
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I was just talking to a guy who said, he said he was in London. He said, I'm a, I'm coming
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to America. And I said, really, where are you going? And he said, San Francisco. And I said,
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so you're not really going to America. He kind of looked at me puzzled with that. And I said,
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have you been keeping up with the news? It's going to be a little different than perhaps you
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think. It's so crazy. I mean, if you went to, if you were in San Francisco 10 years ago and went now,
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you would be shocked at what's happened. And you'd also be shocked because you probably got your rental
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car broken into. I went to San Francisco maybe five years ago when the Superbowl, when the Superbowl
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was in San Francisco, I went and that was the last time. And the change that I had seen from five
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years before to then was stark. I can't even imagine what it's like now. I mean, and they're,
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they're all in denial. The, the, the mayor said recently, people are saying that companies are
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moving out. You're like, we, this is the craziest part of, of the time that we live in is the,
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the blatant lying about what people can see with their own eyes. Right. You're like, no,
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they literally just put out a press release. They're shutting down the mall. They're shutting,
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they're taking their company. People are, these, these conservatives are like, it's not just
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conservatives, by the way. It's, it's a lot of people are seeing this and, and you can label
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them all conservative. That makes you feel better, but it's still not true. It's, you know what it is.
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It, thank God it is now the people who have always really kind of believed in the bill of rights,
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but you really kind of didn't need it. You know what I mean? Cause it kind of worked anyway.
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Now you're seeing, Oh crap, all of them are being violated and this is the result. And so the honest
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people are coming to the table. You don't have to believe the same things I do. That's the point
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of the bill of rights. Yeah. That's, that's been something I've really been saying more and more is
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that you don't have to be on the right to reject the left. And some of, some of the, they want you
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to label, they've been labeling me that for four years now for five years or however many years since
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I started opening my mouth that I don't need to accept that people I think get afraid because
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they're afraid of the labels that will be put on them. But I do think now is the time for some courage
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and just saying you have to speak what you see because the minute you have been scared out of
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speaking what you're seeing happening, that that's, you've already lost. Yeah. It's only going to get
00:26:14.140
worse. Um, so you are kind of fascinated by the apocalypse lately. We talk about it a lot. Yeah. Tell me
00:26:24.520
about that. I mean, I think I've always been joking that it feels very primageddon ish. Um,
00:26:32.760
and I think every, I was thinking about this when I was getting ready this morning to come just how,
00:26:37.420
you know, every, there's so much nihilism and so much like dooms. Everybody seems like they're in a
00:26:44.380
doomsday call. I feel like I joke about the apocalypse, but every, doesn't every generation feel that
00:26:52.480
way. I mean, what did they, did they probably thought it was the apocalypse during the black
00:26:57.140
plague? Maybe they didn't have a word for it. Yeah. I think, I think the best thing is, uh,
00:27:04.840
if you lived my grandparents, my grandparents living through the depression and, and world war II and
00:27:12.340
seeing that evil of the Nazis. And I don't know if they saw it as clearly as we can see it now,
00:27:19.320
if you care to look. Um, but that's madness what was going on. And it's the same stuff. 1925. Do you
00:27:28.440
know the first trans surgery, uh, happened in Weimar Republic? I don't know any, I'm out of my
00:27:34.080
depth here. I don't know anything about that. But that guy died because the doctor just shoved a
00:27:39.980
uterus in a man. Okay. Um, but all of these things were happening and it happens over time and it's just a
00:27:46.720
slow boil to where people just lose all reason. Yeah. And I think if you were watching that from
00:27:54.480
the outside or could see it and you weren't numb, I think you might've thought this might be the end
00:28:00.800
of the world, you know? Um, but I, I, I mean, now I think it might. I'm just trying to follow this
00:28:11.560
exact line of thought. Wait, are you saying the trans something led to the Nazis? No, no, no. I'm
00:28:17.880
saying here's what I should explain. I'm like, wait. So, yes. So let me, let me, uh, probably should
00:28:25.800
clarify. So Weimar Republic, uh, first Germany, uh, and world war one happened and all the churches
00:28:34.320
lost the credibility cause they were like, God's on our side and we're going to win this victorious
00:28:39.020
war. And it was a bloodbath. So the churches had lost their credibility because they had become
00:28:44.380
political. So people aren't listening to church anymore. Then, uh, the dollar or their mark starts
00:28:50.840
to spiral out of control. Youth, the 20 somethings, they become the wealthy ones because they don't
00:28:58.400
have families to feed. So they could take some of their salary and invest it. Okay. And make money,
00:29:06.640
but everybody else had to take every dime to buy food and housing and everything else. Okay. So,
00:29:11.940
and there's a shift of power to the 20 somethings. Okay. So then, because 20 somethings are 20
00:29:18.380
somethings, um, they're living a very decadent cocaine is pushed, um, uh, all kinds of, I don't
00:29:26.580
know about this. Yeah. All kinds of stuff really pushed and society begins to decay. Then the first
00:29:33.220
sexology university is founded and it's all about LGBT. Uh, it's, uh, they're pushing trans. It's the
00:29:42.980
movie cabaret. Okay. Except on steroids. Okay. And, and then pedophilia starts to crop, crop into the
00:29:53.000
schools. The churches see the opportunity of, aha, see, this is what happens when we don't have God.
00:29:59.840
They get in on the pedophilia. Wait a minute. Everybody's doing it. No. So the churches,
00:30:07.260
the churches do what churches do. Uh, well, at least a lot of them. And they don't talk about
00:30:14.020
what the principles of Christ are. Instead, they're like, our faith is the right faith and
00:30:19.020
we're going to jam it down everybody else's throat. They get people who say, our children are in jeopardy
00:30:27.400
here. Okay. This madness has got to stop. They get involved. They find the Nazis who are not religious.
00:30:36.840
In fact, hate, uh, Christianity. Um, and really anybody that won't bow to the state. Um, they see
00:30:46.180
these S a guys, these storm troopers on the streets that are, I mean, you didn't get the whole population
00:30:52.120
to do Zig Heil and raise your arms because everybody liked it. The storm troopers would come in, in the
00:30:59.800
early, the late twenties and early thirties, and they would beat people sometimes to death in the streets.
00:31:05.780
If you didn't do that. So everybody was like, I don't want any trouble Heil. Okay. So that culture,
00:31:13.200
they saw this and they saw them because Hitler was talking about religion and God and our decaying
00:31:20.080
morals right at the very beginning. They went, maybe he'll help the first book burnings. I didn't know
00:31:27.340
this until recently. The first book burnings were the sexology books. Okay. And then everybody lost
00:31:35.980
control of everything. The first people in the death camps were gays and especially trans people.
00:31:43.680
They were the first to go. So when somebody LGBTQ positive, you know, who's saying like, Hey,
00:31:50.260
this is my movement. And here's my flag. When they say you're a Nazi, they may know more about,
00:31:58.340
I doubt a lot too, but they may know more about the actual history and say Christian nationalists are
00:32:06.900
very dangerous. Historically you're right. Right. Okay. But that movement was not Christian
00:32:14.660
nationalists, but they played that pivot role. Right. But isn't that the kind of current fear
00:32:20.680
the left has of the backlash to a lot of this trans stuff in the country? Absolutely. And I think it's
00:32:29.420
only because you're jamming it down people's throats. You know, our biggest strength is our,
00:32:37.300
also our Achilles heel. We're tolerant. We just want to get along. Okay. And if all of this stuff
00:32:44.100
would have been introduced and not in our schools per se, right. Um, and you could talk about it and
00:32:52.220
debate about it. I don't think you'd be sitting on the powder keg. You are, you're now forcing
00:32:58.300
everyone to be involved and that doesn't sit well, whether you're a Nazi or, you know, uh, transgender
00:33:08.080
activist, right? It doesn't matter when you say it's my way or the highway, you're putting powder
00:33:14.080
in that keg. Yeah. There, there seems to be, uh, it's like these two opposing forces that are
00:33:23.360
extreme and it's unsettling. Most people are in here. Most people are. I mean, the piece that I
00:33:31.160
just dropped today actually was how the public lost pride because there was there, how pride lost the
00:33:37.400
public because there was this, um, Gallup poll that came out recently that everybody was like,
00:33:42.540
look at the drop from conservatives on the support for gay marriage. I'm like underreported.
00:33:48.100
Look at the Democrat drop. There was a drop. Look at the, uh, numbers of the gay community.
00:33:56.820
Yeah. I know a lot. I mean, we work with a lot of gay people and they're like, this is nuts. This
00:34:02.360
has just gone too far. Yeah. That's, and that's, what's fascinating because as I was writing this
00:34:08.440
piece and I was going down several rabbit holes, I, it was, I, I wanted to, and it's, I could have
00:34:15.300
made this piece 10,000 words had I wanted to, because there's so many, it's a confluence of so
00:34:20.840
many forces at the same time that are occurring. One being that I feel a very illiberal movement has,
00:34:31.520
and we see this kind of all across the board in America, just as Douglas Murray said in this piece,
00:34:37.100
parasitically attached itself to gay rights in this instance. Big time. And that's a very liberal
00:34:42.180
equality ideal that they have, but it was very much lit and Andrew Sullivan contributed some
00:34:49.280
brilliance to this piece. And he said it was live and let live. And now it's, it's my way or nothing.
00:34:54.920
And I think Americans are going fine. It's nothing then. Okay. Don't make me choose between this
00:35:03.380
stuff, you know, like to go back to the driver. What, why is let a kid be a kid? Why don't make
00:35:11.420
me defend this? And I don't want to have to fight this in our schools. And it's so insidious, but then
00:35:18.220
you go down the other rabbit hole and it's like, why is it everywhere? Why is it, why is pride like
00:35:24.800
a national as again, Douglas Murray, the holy month of pride? How did this become something
00:35:30.300
corporations all change their, their logos? Unless it's Saudi Arabia, unless it's their Saudi account.
00:35:37.840
Then, and you go down the rabbit hole of ESG and CEI and they're, and you're like, this is nuts.
00:35:46.040
This is social credit. It's crazy. Most people can't understand it. They're just trying to raise
00:35:51.900
their kids. They see this everywhere. They're, their daughter has three girlfriends who are now
00:35:57.180
boys. It's they're like, what the hell is going on? And it, it's easy you to sit down and try and
00:36:04.920
explain, well, sit down. Let me tell you about the Frankfurt school and queer theory. Do you have
00:36:11.880
several hours? Oh, and by the way, there's this thing called ESG. Have you heard of it?
00:36:18.680
Oh no. Well, it's just this global mechanism for basically controlling liquidity. And they've got
00:36:26.880
a racket that has all these massive corporations by the balls. Um, do you have another several hours?
00:36:33.920
No, people don't. So they, they feel that I feel like it accelerates tribalism because it's too,
00:36:41.540
too confusing, which is part of the point. Correct. It's why people say,
00:36:46.260
you're either with me or against me. Right. And that's so dangerous. That's, that's where the,
00:36:52.980
the religious thing comes because people will say, well, I believe in God and I believe in morals and
00:37:00.760
standards and everything else. But then it's so easily attaches itself to control exactly, uh, the way,
00:37:10.540
uh, Murray was talking about it. Just, it, it just, you have to be so careful. We are in a moment
00:37:16.700
where everybody, it's like, everybody should just have their mantra count to 10. Yeah. Yeah. And I
00:37:25.420
think, I do think too, it's, it's easy not to get caught up in it. You know, there, there was a part
00:37:31.080
of me that was very happy to be the kind of cool gen X or in the back of the school laughing at all of
00:37:39.660
the world while it burns, which I still do enjoy, by the way, don't get me wrong. But then I had a
00:37:46.260
daughter and suddenly I'm like, ah, shit, I'm going to have to fight this. I'm going to have to fight
00:37:51.520
this stuff. I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to get involved or I'm going to have to homeschool
00:37:56.740
my kid or I, cause I just want her, I got to be a kid. You know, there was, there was stuff in my
00:38:02.620
childhood that was dysfunctional, but I didn't have this stuff in school. It wasn't the gender
00:38:08.260
bred man, you know, the gender, all this like weird stuff. I didn't know. I was actually so innocent
00:38:16.120
and sure. They also have the internet, which does not help, but they, there's an innocence that's being
00:38:25.080
taken and it doesn't. And I don't, I, you know, there are guys like James Lindsay who are much
00:38:31.200
more, I think, I feel bad for him because he's, he's, he's kind of light years ahead of the, of the
00:38:41.100
game and it's got to be frustrating. The problem, and I don't mean it like this. So let me, how do I
00:38:47.860
rephrase it? The frustrating thing with James Lindsay is he is so deep. I mean, I can talk about
00:38:55.780
things and make people's eyes gloss over quickly on, you know, ESG or whatever, but James, he's so
00:39:03.700
deep into it. And he's so smart. And he's so smart. His, his language is a little bit Marxist
00:39:11.680
at times. You know what I mean? He uses the language that a lot of Americans don't understand
00:39:17.020
because he's accurately describing it. You know what I mean? And names and things. And you're just
00:39:23.140
like, but it's also important, but it's so complex insidious. That's part of the problem. It's the,
00:39:31.380
it's this thing where you're, and I say this in my piece for the spectator piece, it's like people
00:39:37.340
can, they can intuit it. You know, they're like, this isn't right. And I think a lot of parents
00:39:42.220
during the pandemic were like, what are they taught? What are you learning? Excuse me? What
00:39:46.560
are they talking about? Weird zoom class. And you can intuit that, but then the minute you try and
00:39:53.080
point to it, it kind of shape shifts or suddenly it's like you're a bigot and nobody wants to be a
00:39:58.860
bigot. Nobody wants to be a racist. Nobody wants to be a Nazi. Back with more from Bridget Phetasy in just a
00:40:06.440
second. First, let me tell you about a great American business. It started out with a couple
00:40:11.220
of guys and one of them was really, really talented, could make anything. He said, would you
00:40:16.820
make me a belt? And one that works better than average belts. He came up with this design of this
00:40:23.980
belt and he made it. And then friends started saying, Hey, would you make me one? And they knew
00:40:28.580
they had something. So they started a business. Well, here's the thing they wanted to do. If they were
00:40:34.420
going to do a business, they wanted to make sure that it was all American, that it was using American
00:40:38.660
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00:41:05.780
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00:41:14.900
That's grip six.com slash back. Talk to me about the difference between you, uh, three years ago
00:41:32.880
Well, let's talk about extremism. I've been fully radicalized. Um, because you're a mom.
00:41:38.400
Well, yeah, there's certain, and because I love America and I, I, I was the person that was the 20
00:41:48.420
something imperialist America. I mean, for, for lack of a better phrase and I apologize for using
00:41:57.620
this. I'm kind of recovering libtard. I should write a 12, a 12 step program, you know, admit
00:42:03.820
that you're a libtard and your life has become miserable. Um, and it, it is, and that's okay.
00:42:13.200
It's okay to be, I was idealistic. It's okay to question some of our country's decisions. We should
00:42:20.420
absolutely be involved. We've done horrible, horrible things. And, and I want to fix them. I
00:42:27.760
want to, I would just like us to have a serious conversation, just a checklist. What did we do?
00:42:34.040
Okay. Is it still being done? Okay. Done. Let's bold this out. Let's never do that again.
00:42:40.420
You know what I mean? Yeah. Just deal with the things we're, we're still doing horrible,
00:42:46.540
horrible things. And we're talking about what we can't heal unless we actually look at the real
00:42:54.620
things rationally, make sure they're fixed and move on to the next. I think too, living in a city
00:43:01.440
where I saw it, I couldn't look around. That was the benefit of being in California. It's a,
00:43:06.800
it's a unit party. I couldn't look around and blame conservatives for the, the, the, you know,
00:43:14.980
city falling apart. I could only blame the people that were being elected and it was blue all the way
00:43:21.000
down. So, but how come more people don't see that in California? Again, I think there is, I, I had a
00:43:27.160
friend who said something that really stuck out to me that the true and only guiding ideology in America
00:43:35.280
is, but the right, there's this, like, you know, there's this going on and this going on. And you,
00:43:41.560
if you're a conservative, you probably have to shut your mouth and not really express your opinions at
00:43:46.880
work or around your friends because it's, and you see that disparity and, and don't think, Oh, maybe
00:43:52.380
one side has a lot more power, but, but the right. And again, I don't think guys like Trump,
00:44:00.460
which will probably piss off many of your people in your audience, but I don't think it does people
00:44:06.660
any favors because I do know a lot of particularly like boomers who have seen what's going on.
00:44:12.780
They're like, this is, this is nuts. And Trump is too much of just a narcissistic loose cannon for
00:44:19.420
them to feel safe, kind of saying, okay, we need to push back against some of this crazy in our own
00:44:26.720
party. Um, and, and get, look at the state that it's in. You have Fetterman announcing Biden. It's
00:44:34.840
just like, we're supposed to just take our sugar and eat it. That's what we're supposed to just be
00:44:40.540
like, Oh, this is, we're all the dog in the, in the meme drinking coffee. Like this is fine.
00:44:46.080
Right. And I think someone, I know a lot of them have said, you know, I kind of in hushed shameful
00:44:53.660
tones, like I'd vote for DeSantis, you know, somebody who seems younger, disciplined, somebody
00:45:00.360
who, this is, I think a large part why Biden won is because there were a lot of Americans that just
00:45:11.460
said, I want to return to normalcy. Okay. I know times are changing. I think just, can we turn
00:45:19.220
And then there were the food shortages and we've, we've, we've turned it up. Yeah. And, um, yeah,
00:45:26.920
I'm interested to see who is going to win the nomination because I think the Democrats are
00:45:32.880
making it more likely that he's the nominee by Biden or Trump. Trump. Of course they would love that.
00:45:39.480
They would love that. And they know exactly what I'm saying, which is that there are a lot of
00:45:44.340
dyed in the wool Democrats who have had it with them. But there's a lot of Republicans who are
00:45:49.840
saying the same thing. We just want sanity. Yeah. But when you push a society so far,
00:45:59.460
not an 80 year old madman with a revenge mission. Yeah. That, that, that, that wouldn't be good.
00:46:07.820
I don't, I don't know. I don't, I can't say that I know what would be good. I do. I, or bad
00:46:13.620
because the, everything is so crazy, but I would like to, you know, people are like, can we get
00:46:19.880
the boomers? I'm like, these guys aren't even boomers. They're silent generation. Can we maybe
00:46:24.540
just get a boomer? Can we, can we, I have, you know, nothing against people who are old. I just
00:46:31.140
think you should be enjoying your grandchildren and not running that quite almost like corporation.
00:46:40.020
Well, same thing. Have you seen Vivek Rameshwamy? Oh yes.
00:46:45.860
What if press the fresh air? I'm like, yeah, somebody like that would be great. Yeah. Would
00:46:52.780
be great. I don't know if he even has a chance to even be on the debate stage, but that's the
00:47:00.360
kind of guy and attitude and someone who under, you really think that Biden is tweeting his
00:47:07.400
own stuff. I mean, Donald Trump is Joe Biden. I bet hasn't even used an iPhone, you know,
00:47:15.960
necessarily himself. Uh, we are in a different world. It is time for people. And I say, this
00:47:22.920
is a guy who's almost 60. Okay. We, we, we've, we've had a good run. And especially I think
00:47:32.360
my age, I'm at the, I'm the last year of the boomers and I don't really relate to the boomers.
00:47:39.060
Um, and I'm the last year of the boomers. And I feel like I've dealt with these hippies long
00:47:45.900
enough. And I feel like saying, dude, you, you, you screwed everything up and we had to pay for a lot
00:47:55.800
of that back in the sixties, my generation. Okay. And we were the latch kids, you know,
00:48:02.040
generation. And now you are the exact opposite of what you said was right. It's time for you to let
00:48:13.400
go and let someone else deal with it. They talk about how the, the declaration and constitution
00:48:20.400
just isn't it's, it wasn't written for this era and you were, yeah, I mean, you were a teenager.
00:48:27.200
When 1946, 1951, come on. Yeah. It's definitely shows me to just how hard power is to let go of
00:48:37.820
when you have it, no matter who you are. And what's weird, it's not even who you are. Like
00:48:43.420
you look at a, what's her name? Feinstein. She doesn't even know who she is. It's the institution
00:48:48.840
that just wants the body, you know, Fetterman. I feel so bad for him. I know. So bad for him.
00:48:57.840
It's, it's so, and that's the problem is that it pulls on all this. You're like, I feel bad for
00:49:04.140
this person. I don't want to. And I feel like everyone has a right to demand that their leaders
00:49:09.420
be competent, but those, those norms were shredded and I'm not exactly sure. I do think though, I try,
00:49:17.620
I would prefer as much as it absolutely pains me to say this, Gavin versus Ron, just because
00:49:27.660
at least it would be, I feel accurate representations of both sides and where, what we're actually
00:49:35.240
trying to confront. And does it, someone needs to push Biden when he says I'm pro gender affirming
00:49:41.700
care. People need to push these people to define what that is. Tell me what that, what does that
00:49:48.320
mean, sir? Mr. President, what exactly is gender affirming care? Can you describe it to me? Do
00:49:55.400
you even know what it is? Do you know what you're supporting? Do you know where you are? Do you know
00:50:02.780
your name? Uh, but you, you can't get that. Nobody, the press, it's so
00:50:11.040
either evil and they know it, or they're the dumbest people alive, or they're just trapped
00:50:21.360
and feel like, yeah, I mean, I feel like a lot of people feel trapped. I was saying this
00:50:26.700
just on Twitter yesterday, there was that, that woman, I think her name was Robinson and
00:50:32.040
she was talking and some hearing about how, um, she read an article in NPR about, you know,
00:50:39.560
this is why bio, it's not a big deal that biological men should be competing against women. And I'm
00:50:44.520
like, have, where are the female athletes? I understand that it's a culture of, you know,
00:50:51.580
just suck it up. And like, you take your loss, but this is not fundamentally not fair. And you
00:50:58.080
are going to lose, I would say joking. I'm like, I hope they, I hope these women who don't speak up
00:51:02.760
lose their job to a mediocre male because you didn't say anything. And if you don't, you're
00:51:07.880
going to cost another woman her spot. Did you see the activist in Congress yesterday talking about
00:51:13.460
Serena Williams and saying there is no difference, no difference between a man and woman.
00:51:18.860
I'm talking about, I think her name was Robin. I can't remember her name. Yeah. And wait,
00:51:24.140
there's no difference. Serena Williams, when she was good, was beaten by the 207th ranking man at
00:51:32.480
tennis. You can't tell me that a man can be imposing and can hold a woman and rape her and
00:51:40.820
do, and do whatever, because a woman doesn't have the strength, which is all true on some men. I
00:51:48.420
mean, you could beat the snot out of me, but you know what I mean? Generally speaking. Yeah.
00:51:53.860
We have more muscle. We are bigger. So to say that there's no difference is ridiculous. It is
00:52:02.360
interesting too, because it's talking out of two sides of your mouth at the same time. So how do
00:52:07.180
you explain rape culture? For example, right? If, if, if this is true, this can't be true. It must not
00:52:14.420
be, it must not exist. Right. If there's no biological difference between men and women,
00:52:20.120
why does, why, why does this happen? Women should just be able to fight back. Correct. It's,
00:52:25.980
it's insane. And people are afraid. I think people feel trapped. I think they're afraid,
00:52:31.280
you know, Douglas Murray said, I wish I could have just posted the transcriptions of every person that
00:52:37.160
I interviewed because they were all so brilliant. Trying to put it into one article felt impossible,
00:52:42.360
but Douglas was saying that he felt that the reason, because the UK is actually quite ahead
00:52:49.420
on this. And he said, it's because somebody like JK Rowling, who is massively huge, spoke
00:52:57.700
out very early against this and that we are behind because someone like Oprah hasn't stood
00:53:03.060
up and been like, Hey, women should have their spaces. You know, it's really interesting being
00:53:09.200
over there. JK Rowling is, I mean, there are Harry Potter things everywhere. Yeah. She's huge
00:53:17.160
everywhere. She is gigantic going to Oxford. They have made one of the gargoyles, one of the figures
00:53:24.540
in a Harry Potter. Um, she has an honorary doctorate at Oxford and you're, and I'm trying to piece this
00:53:32.720
together. You have somebody that popular. Oprah doesn't have anything in any college, you know,
00:53:40.120
reflecting on a gargoyle, anything she's ever done. You have a society that is monetarily
00:53:48.060
really benefiting from her work. She's deep into the culture and they've just destroyed her.
00:53:58.580
Yeah. Just destroyed her. It's insane. And all she's doing is defending women. You know,
00:54:05.000
it's just like, and you're not defending women. If you're, if you're standing up and saying the
00:54:13.680
truth all of a sudden, wait, I don't, wait, how do you even make that logic work? I'm, I'm not sure.
00:54:20.580
I, again, I feel like it's just something that's kind of cool and there's something young people are,
00:54:27.660
they feel purpose being a part of this movement or whatever. And I, I'm not, I don't know. I,
00:54:36.940
I talked to the women's liberation front, the women who are fighting for the, they're pushing the
00:54:42.280
lawsuit against the California corrections for men in women's prisons. Um, and this is the kind of
00:54:49.780
stuff people need to be pushed to say on record. You agree with, Oh, you're for gender affirming care
00:54:56.660
for minors. You agree with putting them on puberty blockers. You agree with pausing
00:55:01.780
their development, development, which we know is not a pause. We know that now you, uh, even though
00:55:08.720
all, most of the European, um, countries are backtracking with not Canada, Canada's going full
00:55:15.640
stream, steam ahead. Canada's gone nuts. But you look at all of the places we were told we should be
00:55:22.280
more like France, Sweden, Sweden, Norway, all of those are going, Whoa, slow down.
00:55:31.400
Yes. Yeah. I don't know. And this is the people who are always like, Oh, these anti-scientific
00:55:37.480
idiots who are, it's, it's maddening, but I do my, my kind of white pill is Michael Malice would say
00:55:45.820
is that more and more people do seem to be kind of reaching their limit. I mean, I wrote a piece
00:55:51.180
probably four or five years ago being like, you can't just shame people into voting the way that
00:55:57.380
you want, because you say they're a bigot or they're, they're racist because of whatever your,
00:56:03.140
your, your idea about things is, and you want them to vote away. And yesterday, Kat Rosenfeld wrote this
00:56:12.160
piece for the Boston globe about how progressives are minting conservatives. And I'm like, yeah,
00:56:19.360
I said this four years ago and now it's even crazier. Now that was when you were, that was
00:56:25.600
pre all of this, like even more insane stuff and post COVID, which was also insane.
00:56:35.020
I, a couple of years ago met the people at Jace medical. And, uh, I started talking about the Jace
00:56:41.540
case. The Jace case holds five of the most important antibiotics for emergency use.
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Well, at the time when I first met them, I said, you know, I'm a prepper. And they said,
00:56:53.800
so are we. And I said, prescription drugs, I mean, heart medicine, high blood pressure,
00:57:01.180
psychiatric medicine, what is going to happen if we have a disruption in the supply chain for those
00:57:07.220
people who have to have that medicine? And they just sat back in their chairs and smiled and said,
00:57:11.980
see, that's why you, that's why we knew we needed to talk to you. We're working on it. Well,
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It's promo code Beck at J A S E medical.com. What do you think of RFK? Um, yeah, he's interesting.
00:58:08.560
You know, I, I think he's, he's an, again, this is the state of the democratic party that he's like,
00:58:17.220
people are just so thirsty. And I do think Stephen Miller, um, not the Stephen Miller who worked for
00:58:25.160
Trump, Stephen Miller, who's the writer. Uh, he was saying that he kind of gives permission to a lot of
00:58:33.360
people on the left who were vaccine skeptics, for example, and just were very happy to let the,
00:58:41.580
everybody say, Oh, it's those MAGA people who don't want the vaccine. I'm like, you know how many people
00:58:46.540
I knew in LA who didn't get the vaccine quietly and just were fine having everyone think it was
00:58:52.720
like, Oh, those, those hicks over there didn't get the vaccine while, and he was saying the same
00:58:58.280
thing. The original kind of anti-vax community was like in the Palisades, right? You know, these are
00:59:03.580
the, the hippie granola moms. And so there was a lot of people and a lot of people in the black
00:59:11.880
community rightfully did not want to get the vaccine. And the press never really any kind of
00:59:18.140
history with that. What are you talking about? The press never had to really address that. They
00:59:22.280
could ignore that and focus on. And so I think RFK is pointing out and giving permission to a faction
00:59:30.740
of the left that has not been able to speak up because they didn't really have a representative.
00:59:37.460
So I know conservatives who like him because he is, and it's so strange. The left was right about
00:59:47.420
the United States turning into one giant corporation and in business with big business. The right said,
00:59:53.700
that'll never happen. I trust come. We were dumb as a box of rocks. Okay. Got that one wrong.
00:59:59.400
Got that one wrong. Kind of a big one. Slippery slope. Yeah. But, but the things that you were
01:00:09.240
right on, the, the left is now being the champion. Yeah, no, that's the other crazy thing. I mean,
01:00:18.320
big pharma. Endless war. Endless war. And he said this when he was on Rogan, which you can't even post
01:00:24.180
those clips on YouTube without getting your channel demonetized. We'll put that in the bucket
01:00:29.000
of other terrifying things that we would need an entirely separate episode for. But it, it, that,
01:00:36.980
that's what he represents. That, the, the silencing of this conversation, the ability to even have the
01:00:47.180
He has a little bit of what the Democrats are doing to Trump. They're also kind of doing it to
01:00:57.540
him. They're not, not as severe, but they're silencing him. And people are hungry for anyone
01:01:03.460
who will stand up and say, this is wrong. Yeah. He's saying, for instance, I always trusted the FBI
01:01:10.020
and CIA. Oh my. Have, have they always been this way? How did I not see that? Okay. But now everybody
01:01:20.040
on the left is like, oh, they're great. I love them. I love the FBI. What? Yeah. As somebody who's
01:01:28.860
Gen X, it's very disorienting. Oh, I bet it is. Because it was all of the things that I was,
01:01:34.520
when I was in my kind of recovering, you know, when I was in my full libtardation, I, that was all
01:01:42.200
the stuff I was fighting against. Right. Wars in other countries. So what happened? Big pharma.
01:01:47.560
What happened? It's so weird. From 2000, the year 2000, I am not the same man that I was. I still am.
01:01:56.540
Uh, I hate to say the label conservative. I don't think means anything. Yeah. I'm not. I am a
01:02:02.760
constitutional bill of rights American. Okay. I'm you, you agree with me on that. We don't have
01:02:10.180
any arguments. Okay. That are severe that we can't work through, but I would make the, you know, well,
01:02:17.280
this war is important and this is important. And well, the FBI probably was just isolated.
01:02:23.360
All that crap has been proven wrong. Right. And so many conservatives are there and you have a chance
01:02:34.900
of actually changing and doing the things that the liberals who are actual bill of rights liberals who
01:02:44.060
are saying, this is, this is wrong what we're doing. We have a chance to change it. But Mandy,
01:02:52.620
and maybe it goes back to the first thing you say, but the right, that they just will not see that.
01:02:59.560
I'm not talking about the GOP. I'm talking about common sense people that are like, no,
01:03:06.300
there's a problem here and shame on me for being so stupid. Good for you. You got it right. Now,
01:03:13.440
did we get anything right that you're starting to discover? You know, it's the same eye opening on,
01:03:20.160
it's just, and it's almost on the same things we're coming. You're coming our way on some things.
01:03:26.700
I'm coming your way on some things. And those some things are the important principles. Yeah.
01:03:34.020
And can we meet in the middle with healthcare, please? Anyone? Anyone? I feel like, can anyone
01:03:43.420
address this problem? Anyone? No, we fixed it. Obamacare fixed it. I mean, that was a little bit
01:03:50.140
jarring coming from California to Texas. It's definitely better in California. Because I could,
01:03:55.500
cause as somebody who is an independent, I can't get, I don't think I can get a private PPO as an
01:04:03.280
individual here. I could be mistaken or it's just way too expensive for, for me. I have to be
01:04:09.620
employed by someone. There are groups who can get involved in. And so then I had to get an HMO and
01:04:15.500
I haven't had an HMO in a long time. And my gosh, how does I, it was very eye opening how people,
01:04:23.040
there are two classes, well, probably three classes of care in the United States for healthcare. And
01:04:30.020
it was, yeah, it's not good. No, it's got, and it's gotten much, much worse, much more controlled.
01:04:36.600
It's, you know, when I moved from New York, because I, you know, the company was mine and I had
01:04:42.380
a responsibility. I couldn't carry the same insurance across from New York to, why?
01:04:56.200
Yeah. I mean, this is so much of the problem. It really is.
01:05:00.020
So now that, now that you are a little apocalyptic, uh, but yet a mom.
01:05:10.440
I'm, I'm actually more optimistic. Weirdly too.
01:05:15.100
Because that was really the kind of epiphany I had when I was getting ready this morning.
01:05:20.000
Just all men are presented with whatever humanity is dealing with in their time and they have
01:05:27.680
to deal with it. And this is, this is what I'm presented with. And my job is to prepare
01:05:33.240
my daughter to handle whatever, whatever is presented to her and the best way that she
01:05:39.700
can. And, and pray that, you know, she has the, a good head on her shoulders and she knows
01:05:46.460
that she's loved. And that, but there's a lot that I, I, I'm an old parent. So I'm a hyper
01:05:55.080
aware of the fact that I won't be around probably as long as I'd like to be in her life and see.
01:06:02.600
And so I have to trust that she will be okay. You know, I, I, that is, that's my job.
01:06:12.320
Even not in these times, you'll go through that as a parent.
01:06:15.480
And it's still better than ever. So it's still, even though I can look at the horizon and say,
01:06:20.840
Oh, this could really go off the rails. Is it, and this is kind of what Tim Urban and I were
01:06:26.440
discussing. Is it going to be, she's going to Mars? Is it going to be, she's enslaved by robots?
01:06:31.920
Will it be, she, the grid has gone down and she's growing food or will it be just a little bit
01:06:39.580
more of where we are and, and a little better, a little worse, whatever. I'm not sure. And I,
01:06:47.600
I am optimistic seeing how resilient kids are, just how smart they are, how creative they naturally
01:06:56.480
are. And they tap, she just forces me to come into the present. It's easy to get spun out and all this
01:07:05.000
stuff. I've been watching the Arnold documentary, which is very interesting.
01:07:09.580
And again, as a nineties kid, I had to watch this, but he was talking about his Nazi father
01:07:15.480
who had, um, one expression that really stuck with him, which was be useful. And I think about that a
01:07:24.960
lot. You know, I wake up and I try to food prep or be useful. And I do think there might be a crisis
01:07:32.400
of usefulness in our country because people are, they're not doing things. They're going online and
01:07:40.780
like working themselves up into a lather over these ridiculous, like the dumb think pieces and,
01:07:47.880
and not having enough really nuanced conversations. That's why all the people in the piece about pride
01:07:54.100
that I, that I wrote there, they're gays and lesbians and trans men and women. And they,
01:08:00.640
they have to live with the consequences of this backlash we're seeing, which is why I wanted to
01:08:06.500
reach out to them, but they're also critical of gender ideology. So they represent, I think where most
01:08:14.000
people fall and they're the people we should be listening to the Glenn Greenwalds and, and Douglas
01:08:21.300
Murray about this topic in particular, Andrew Doyle, and they get the kind of least amount of airtime
01:08:28.640
because we just hear from the activists on either side who are riling each other up. But there, we,
01:08:36.200
I don't, there's, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We've made, that's one of the
01:08:40.660
most, I think, inspiring things that I've seen in my lifetime is that, that the, the going to just
01:08:50.280
the, the transition we've had for lack of a better word around gay marriage and gay rights and gay
01:08:57.200
people in the world, it's miraculous. And in a very short time and now, and this is where I kind of,
01:09:06.360
we were joking on dumpster fire and I'm sure it'll get, you know, cut and taken out of context,
01:09:10.660
but we were like, maybe you're right about the slippery slope. And I disagree. It's not necessarily
01:09:17.400
true, but it is because this other thing is piggybacked like a Trojan horse into it. Although
01:09:23.300
my husband would say that's what they were afraid of though. Right. I had a conversation with my
01:09:30.580
daughter. She was at Fordham. She wouldn't talk to me for a while because they had her so ratcheted up
01:09:34.960
that, that I was anti-gay. And I'm like, I'm a libertarian on this. I don't really care. I don't
01:09:42.600
think the government has anything to do with anybody. Don't tell me how to live. I won't tell
01:09:48.160
you how to live. Don't tell me what my church has to do. And I won't tell you what your church has to do.
01:09:52.540
Leave it be. Let people follow themselves. And, uh, and she just, she wouldn't even, she got so,
01:10:01.580
and I said, honey, the reason why I speak out about this is because of the slip. And she cut me off.
01:10:10.260
Okay. And I'm like, and I know, and I, and I said, it's not that this will lead to this and this will
01:10:18.120
lead to this. You don't understand the people that are truly pushing with money behind this. Okay.
01:10:27.900
The people that you get that, are they all going to quit their job because they've got what they
01:10:33.660
wanted? I mean, yeah, that's the, that's another thing we covered in this article is just the NGOs
01:10:39.440
need a job, but then there's also just this insidious part of all of these theories that
01:10:47.120
is all just destruction. Yeah. It's just, just deconstruct everything. And I'm not smart enough
01:10:55.960
or it's, there's something sinister, you know, it feels sinister. And I hate saying that because
01:11:06.580
I don't want to be an extremist, I don't, I try so hard to be nuanced and, and see where
01:11:12.220
everybody's coming from. And then I see activists screaming in people's faces and it, you know,
01:11:21.100
and I don't want like conservative people having to like check children's genitals before they play
01:11:28.320
soccer, you know, that's crazy too. Right. Here's the thing. Uh, I said to James Lindsay,
01:11:38.160
um, last time I talked to him, I think, uh, I said, James, you know, the first time I ever met you,
01:11:45.880
you were an atheist full fledged. And I said, I don't really know where you stand now. He's had
01:11:51.600
some really good experiences, some really bad experiences. I said, but, um, I swore off the word
01:11:57.860
evil about 2011 because it was, it's, it's, it's a very powerful word hyperbolic. Correct. You know?
01:12:08.120
And I said, however, if I were to define evil, I would define it as a destructive force that destroys
01:12:18.120
everything and makes people slaves to thoughts or physical slaves. You know what I mean? Yeah.
01:12:27.140
Anything that tells you, you can't do it. You won't survive without anything that does that.
01:12:36.920
I think is evil. And he agreed with me. Yeah. I hear this a lot. And, and I have that same resistance,
01:12:43.720
like being raised Catholic and feeling kind of, it's, you're like, Oh, evil. Is it evil? And then
01:12:50.340
it gets thrown around and you see it online and, and there's lots of hyperbole and, and then I don't
01:12:58.820
know, you know, again, I, I go back to the Arnold documentary, which he kind of brushes over, but it
01:13:04.560
made me really think about his talking about his father, how he was, he could be very, you know,
01:13:10.300
hard on them and also seem to be an alcoholic and all of these broken men in Austria who basically
01:13:17.860
got behind this ideology and believe were believers and were just demolished and demoralized and what
01:13:25.440
his town was like with all of these people. And, you know, there will, there seems to be,
01:13:32.640
I, I can't help but feel that way about a lot of the stuff I see now that people are kind of
01:13:40.420
co-signing. And I think Blair White has said this where she says, you know, a lot of people are going
01:13:45.900
to pretend they were never on board with this. Oh yeah. They're just going to act like, that's why
01:13:50.380
I say, but when people are saying this and they're public figures, you put, you need to push them to
01:13:55.700
say it on record to say what exactly this stuff means and what they're advocating for because,
01:14:02.900
oh, so you're advocating for biological men and women's prisons and shelters and locker rooms.
01:14:10.760
And that was the other thing I was looking at my daughter and I'm like, I don't want,
01:14:14.580
I don't want these. I don't want her to have to worry. I was so uncomfortable when I was a young
01:14:23.280
girl going through puberty to the thought of having boys in there. Uncomfortable with same sex?
01:14:28.520
Yeah. You just like, I, yeah, I know. And this is supposed to, again, people are supposed,
01:14:33.460
and then there's like this whole weird, because we live in such a raging narcissistic time.
01:14:39.800
There's this whole culture of people where it's like cool to be a parent of one of these kids.
01:14:47.900
And this is where I say, cause I had, I had an internal debate, you know, like should the state,
01:14:53.180
be saying, you can't get this care for your child. If you, if you feel that's right for your child.
01:14:59.760
And then I see these moms on Instagram, I'm like, nope, shut up.
01:15:06.580
By the way, you brought up Eleanor Schwarzenegger's dad, who was a Nazi twice now, Nazi. But let me just
01:15:14.780
say this. You said his phrase was be useful. Be useful. I think that's fantastic.
01:15:23.180
I don't think you should say it came from Arnold Schwarzenegger's dad, the country that was like,
01:15:28.660
useless eaters. Let's kill them all. I mean, a part of it is kind of like, whatever you do,
01:15:38.700
I know. I don't, I don't, I don't know how to, I hate like, I was like, I don't even know how to
01:15:46.360
explain this. No, I know. Because I was going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger's dad, but then if I
01:15:50.600
neglect to mention that he's a Nazi. Just say it's yours. I'm not going to say it's, I, I hate, okay.
01:15:55.900
It's my mantra. It's my mantra is just keep going, which very good, which is mine. But you know,
01:16:02.640
I don't like stealing things from people and I, I don't, but you're right. I probably shouldn't.
01:16:07.780
Cause I know, but I, I think it's a profound, the way you said it, it is a profound statement
01:16:14.240
because people are not being useful, useful, you know, but then the Nazi thing just kept
01:16:22.080
going in my head. I had this whole thing. I was waiting about it. And this is the thing
01:16:26.520
you like tiptoe. And this is what I hate about the, the, the modern culture is that I'm hyper
01:16:33.840
aware of like, Oh, that's going to get clipped. And here's Bridget saying like, be useful like
01:16:39.140
a Nazi, which is not what I'm saying. I know, I know you just have to. And then I was thinking
01:16:44.300
like, it led me down this other weird rabbit hole of like, are you still considered the greatest
01:16:49.460
generation? If you're a Nazi, I mean, you're the greatest generation on the winning side.
01:16:59.320
Only the winners were the greatest generation. Right. Yeah. That's what I came down to. Yeah.
01:17:04.820
And I was thinking too, just about how much this must've affected his like Arnold psyche and
01:17:10.180
why he loves American might. And he's so, you know, doesn't want to lose. It's really fascinating.
01:17:17.520
Yeah. He's an amazing guy. Amazing. It's an amazing story. Amazing. And yeah, um, you're
01:17:23.520
probably right. Good to see you. Good to see you too. We'll talk again. Thank you for having
01:17:37.040
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