On today's show, Glenn Beck sits down with conservative radio host Steve Dacey to discuss the latest in the Dealey Plaza scandal, the first presidential debate, and the ongoing investigation into whether or not Donald Trump should be charged with a crime.
00:00:00.000Here's a little secret about the mainstream media.
00:00:02.280They claim to hate conservative media, but I think they're kind of obsessed with us.
00:00:09.140And today's guest knows all about this.
00:00:11.500He's been profiled by the New York Times magazine, ABC News during the 2016 election.
00:00:17.140Oh, he was a regular on MSNBC, NPR, The Hill, Politico.
00:00:21.580They've all turned to him for feedback on what's going on.
00:00:25.300Media Matters in particular is totally in sweetheart love with this guy.
00:00:31.220They once claimed that the Dace radio show and writings are more extreme and intolerant than his comments in mainstream media.
00:00:40.340In the last three weeks alone, they've published 11 articles about him.
00:00:46.020He's the number one bestselling author, the Faucian bargain, the most powerful and dangerous bureaucrat in American history.
00:00:53.560His latest is The Rise of the Fourth Reich.
00:00:57.440This year, he took on Hollywood with his underdog success of Nefarious, which is just one of the projects that he and I have collaborated on.
00:01:07.700I've just come in and I looked pretty.
00:01:10.800We're more than just co-workers at Blaze TV.
00:01:14.160His daily radio program is literally right after mine on the network.
00:01:18.120At this point, he and I are so deep inside conservative media that we often forget how unique our job is.
00:01:25.280And we're both so busy that we rarely get a chance to slow down and have kind of discussion that make this podcast unique.
00:01:32.840So let's slow down and please welcome Steve Dace.
00:01:37.500Before we get to Steve, if you're like me, this time of the year, every time you step outside, you feel like you're supposed to be, you know, dropping the ring of power into Mount Doom.
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00:22:34.680Now, of course, Biden comes in and can erase all those executive orders in 10 minutes.
00:22:37.600But the best parts of Trump's presidency, where he did things for us no one had ever done before and accomplished things that were way beyond people's expectations, is when he could directly intervene and act.
00:22:49.600When he actually had to move government, negotiate, move the party.
00:22:53.420He outsources Obamacare to McConnell and Ryan.
00:22:57.560That's because that's not his background.
00:22:59.300And that's not the kind of business he ran.
00:23:01.160The kind of business he ran was, I am commodus in the arena, thumbs up or thumbs down.
00:23:05.320And when he was able to do that as president, he was an A+.
00:23:08.100When he was not able to do that as president, he was handicapped.
00:23:11.360So the problem that he had, I think, and he has said this, is he didn't realize this, this is what he said to me, he didn't realize the scope and how deep the problems went.
00:23:24.280And he just didn't make his loading of his team the priority.
00:23:30.260He was going to make that in the second term.
00:23:32.600But now, I'm not sure if he can get enough people.
00:23:40.060I mean, we're talking thousands of people that are going to be reporting directly to him or somebody else that is supposed to, you know, be taking care of his vision.
00:23:52.640I don't know who can find these things on their own.
00:23:58.020It's going to take a tremendous team and a team that is not from the swamp, not your usual players and people with just nerves of steel.
00:24:13.980When Reagan came from California with Lynn Nofzinger and Michael Deaver, when he came, Ed Meese, when he brought the California team with him in his first term, he revolutionized the political landscape.
00:24:24.600Now, it wouldn't look revolutionary to us 40 years later.
00:24:26.700But, you know, judging from where the political system was in 1981, it was very radical.
00:24:34.320Then what happens, the second term, a lot of those people go home, man, they're tired.
00:26:40.900Let's say he convinces the normies and independents to come back to him that we've lost the last three elections and pulls all of that off.
00:26:47.480That's an incredibly tall task, but let's say he does it.
00:26:52.300You think these people are going to say, you know what, you beat us again.
00:26:54.600So we're just going to go ahead and beat our swords into plowshares now and let you govern.
00:26:58.280No, they're going to triple down on what they did before.
00:27:00.820What competent people will want to go in there knowing that the minute they sign on to a letterhead that has Trump's name on it, I'm looking at walking out of here, not making millions of dollars writing my memoirs of working in the White House, but spending millions of dollars on legal bills.
00:27:16.420There's a reason why a lot of the best people, and I'm not talking, you know, the Steve Mnuchin or Jared Kushners, people that we liked.
00:27:24.640There's a lot of, there's a reason why even the people that we liked are not formally with the Trump campaign while they're supporting him publicly because they can't afford what's going to happen to them because of that.
00:27:37.340And I think that these are the kinds of questions we have to consider and, and nobody wants to talk about them.
00:27:44.280And, and I understand why it's uncomfortable.
00:27:47.840We shouldn't be talking about these things.
00:27:49.980It's a frigging disaster that we are, but we're sitting here right now.
00:27:53.820And can anybody, who can say right now that at this time, what are, I think it's 326 days until the G, until someone will give the acceptance speech at the GOP convention in Milwaukee next July 18th.
00:28:07.880Can you tell me right now, I mean, you have, you have a history of being a visionary and seeing things coming in our movement, in our industry before a lot of people doing connecting dots.
00:28:15.600Tell me right now, do you know for sure that Donald Trump will have, will have the freedom to go to Milwaukee, to leave Mar-a-Lago and go to Milwaukee in person and, and deliver that acceptance speech.
00:28:28.620They wouldn't have to do it like over zoom via house arrest.
00:28:31.160They wouldn't have to take a plea agreement that he wouldn't even be incarcerated in some way, shape or form.
00:28:36.120Can, can you, can you, can you tell me right now that, you know, for sure that that's the case?
00:28:42.320Um, and I say that because, um, of the cowardice of attorneys, um, our attorneys in this country have grown fat and wealthy on the, just gorging themselves on the blood of freedom.
00:28:58.300Uh, and, uh, they are all complete wusses.
00:29:05.500None of them want to take him on, you know, in, in, in his defense.
00:29:11.260No one wants to, because they're being threatened that they'll lose their, their firm, their jobs, their reputation.
00:29:29.660And we don't have a, I mean, when you look at John Adams, that was almost a death sentence for him to take on.
00:29:38.720He was the most unpopular guy at the time, but he did it because it was right.
00:29:44.440I don't see those people stepping to the plate.
00:29:47.780Um, I don't see those people, you know, they're using, they are twisting the law and using every trick in the book and distorting and pushing, um, to get him into a courtroom lawfare.
00:30:06.720Where are the people who are the prosecutors in any of these States where Hunter Biden agreed, where are they?
00:30:16.040Okay. So this is, this is where the pair, like, for example, back to Jenna, she, her bond is a hundred thousand dollars, Glenn, to stay out of jail, a hundred grand.
00:30:24.700And again, she's at the low end of this Fulton County case.
00:30:27.600She can't just come up with a hundred thousand dollars out of nowhere.
00:30:30.000Thankfully, a lot of people, including our own Mark Levin, myself and others have publicized her legal defense.
00:30:35.260She's probably raised enough to come up with the bond and her retainer.
00:30:38.460But I mean, she's still got to come up with hundreds of thousands of dollars more.
00:31:16.880So a marriage is not, is, is not the genesis of a covenantal relationship between a man and a woman.
00:31:25.340It is the formalizing of it, the quantifying of it, the announcement of it, that covenant you're, you're searing that covenant, but, but you're, you were already stepped into it by your willingness to confirm it publicly.
00:31:36.440Meaning that that association, that intimacy, that desire to be with one another in that union has already been expressed.
00:31:43.460The marriage is just the culmination of that expression.
00:32:16.240Now we're going to talk about how we're going to live together in light of the fact we've agreed to live together.
00:32:21.500It's that social compact that is broken.
00:32:23.760The old way of doing things, and it frustrated people like us at times because it would work against us, but the old social compact was in the two-party era post-Civil War.
00:32:33.300If one side went too far right of center, or one side went too far left of center, then there would be such a unique backlash of punishment by the voters for doing so, that are not really as politically in tune to either side like people like you and I are, or audiences.
00:32:48.340That backlash would be so prohibitive then that it would keep people in check.
00:32:52.300And a lot of times, Republican establishment figures would tell people like you and I, we can't do the stuff that you want us to do because we'll get the backlash of the very voters you're talking about.
00:33:02.720When Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008, that was a sign that the social compact in America is over.
00:33:10.460A new breed of left-wing activists had taken over now.
00:33:14.660And someone that is not interested in polls doesn't care.
00:35:23.340And this last midterm election, when you saw me nearly have a nervous breakdown sitting next to you on the stage that night, was the final proof of that.
00:35:30.920And that's why I was having a nervous breakdown.
00:35:37.060They're literally out there wearing unitards and pitchforks.
00:35:39.820Open demonic, you know, we're going to gender mutilate your kids.
00:35:43.160If there was ever a moment the normies would have come home and said, like they used to, and they would have said, okay, that can't happen.
00:35:52.120If there was ever a moment that the normies would have come home and said, time for a backlash midterm election, man, this would have been the one.
00:35:58.520I was convinced we were going to have it.
00:36:00.000Not a single meaningful incumbent in America lost.
00:36:02.480It was like the most incumbent, pro-incumbent midterm election in modern history after all the hell they just put us through.
00:36:07.800And what broke me was that realization like, oh, the old system is out now.
00:36:13.580We're going to have to actually punish.
00:36:15.420We're going to have to elect Republicans that will punish Democrats.
00:36:20.100We have to elect the Republicans that will do this, that will now take the power we give them.
00:36:24.160The old social compact of this is e pluribus unum is broken now.
00:36:28.520And now this is a full out cold civil war.
00:36:31.500And what we need now is, and how did we win the last civil war?
00:36:35.080Reagan understood there were men in the Kremlin who looked at the weakness of the United States and actually thought they could win a nuclear war.
00:37:07.500Where are the red county AGs and places where, where, where, where a hundred Biden took a dump once, drove through your state once and you got it on camera.
00:37:43.240If you look at the midterm elections, who were the Republicans that actually won?
00:37:47.080Not even guys I agree with all the time, like Brian Kemp and Mike DeWine, but guys who actually led their states, not always in ways I would have.
00:37:53.780Ron DeSantis, my governor, Kim Reynolds, they were the ones that won big.
00:43:05.020And the next logical step that happens throughout history is dictatorship.
00:43:13.680And I feel it's very necessary to make sure that when we talk about things like this, that we are saying, and everybody else that is involved is saying, we are based on what you said, Declaration of Independence.
00:44:50.580Without that humility, what ends up happening is the vo populi revolution ends up killing even more people than the previous aristocracy of elites did.
00:45:00.120That's what you've seen in Marxist countries, where you see the French Revolution.
00:45:03.500And so when they're done taking the guillotine to the elites, they then roll it over to the church next.
00:45:09.100They take the Virgin Mary out of the Cathedral of Notre Dame, and they put the goddess of reason in it, and they call it a reign of terror.
00:45:20.080There is something new being introduced now that is very reminiscent of 1930, early 1930s.
00:45:33.200And that is this idea that it is modernism that is the problem, that the Enlightenment was a problem, that we have to go back and reset before the Declaration of Independence, before the Enlightenment, before you could ask questions, before science.
00:46:40.380It's the people's philosophy that are in science.
00:46:43.360And so, what's new here, I think, that you add to what you were just saying is, there are many people on the right, too, that are now starting to say, none of that is any good.
00:47:10.380One of the things I am frustrated by, I don't believe, and this last election, again, broke me.
00:47:17.720Because I don't believe, I don't like saying this, okay?
00:47:22.800But I don't believe there is literally anything the system could do to Donald Trump that would make the independents and normies that have deserted us the last few elections and who have made it clear they don't like him suddenly say, you know what?
00:47:49.340This billionaire that you're persecuting now, that's suddenly a real issue for me, despite the fact I voted for a dementia patient who gave me the worst new car market in American history and the most expensive housing market in American history.
00:48:01.880I voted for this dementia patient over mean tweets and created generational damage for my kids and grandkids.
00:48:09.640But now that you're treating Donald Trump unfairly, I suddenly care more about him than I cared about my own household when I voted against him the last few elections.
00:48:16.260So what happens when they put him in jail?
00:49:16.320I think we think that some form of normalcy will just kind of organically return.
00:49:21.880And I think it's because we're very comfortable.
00:49:23.840And, you know, in May I was invited to a meeting of some Christian ministry leaders from around the country.
00:49:30.080And we all agreed politics stays away for now.
00:49:32.820Let's just talk about where the country is spiritually and where we think things are going.
00:49:35.720And we just got together, prayed together, talked, had a very blunt conversation.
00:49:38.880And one of the senior members of the leaders that were there got up towards the end, almost like Benjamin Franklin, man, in Independence Hall kind of stuff.
00:50:11.780If we just nominate the right Republican and win the next election, or if I get the right job, if I marry the right person, my kids get in the right school, we'll get this whole thing fixed.
00:50:21.260He goes, so I desperately agree this country's needed revival.
00:50:24.840He said that in more time than all my 70, 80 plus years.
00:50:28.200But understand what you're asking the Lord to do.
00:50:30.660If we want revival, we have to be humbled first.
00:50:34.760And he said in the 17th and 18th century, we had awakenings alongside normal American life without a lot of civil disruption because we weren't as prosperous and comfortable as we are now.
00:50:47.240There wasn't such a thing as a teenager in 1812.
00:50:50.340Nobody during the 18th century, Jonathan Edwards' revivals had a social media account that they were monetizing.
00:50:58.360I mean, life in and of itself was far more uncomfortable than anything we could tolerate today.
00:51:04.100So awakenings without a mass amount of civil unrest could be possible because the people were much humbler back then.
00:51:10.980We're going to have to be humbled quite a bit.
00:51:13.300And so if we truly want revival, he said, things are going to actually have to probably get markedly worse than they are right now.
00:51:23.060I hadn't even thought about that because I'd always looked at the past and when awakenings happen and they happen within the largely normal aspects of American life.
00:51:31.180But this is not the same American life as 300 years ago.
00:53:42.360No one has lived like we are living right now.
00:53:46.100And because we just take it and go, yeah, it's always going to be like this.
00:53:52.640We have no gratitude and we have no humility.
00:53:55.320When my son was younger, he was about nine and we sat and we watched Disney's Man in Space, which is the 1955 film that he made that actually convinced America we could go to space and go to the moon.
00:54:09.220And Wernher von Braun was part of it and the next thing that was up was Man on Mars and also a Disney thing.
00:54:21.260And I said to my son, it'll be amazing when we go to Mars.
00:55:26.920We have no concept of any of that now.
00:55:32.400And, you know, that's why the people in China, I have been told, the Christians in China have been praying for us to, for our economy and everything to collapse.
00:55:45.120And they're doing it because, because I said, what, what, what are you praying for?
00:56:21.320So before you and I started recording this, I got an email yesterday from a gentleman who, one of his best friends is a guy named Daryl Evans.
00:56:28.600And Daryl Evans is a former major league baseball all-star and he was the first player in baseball history to hit 40 home runs in both the American and National League.
00:56:39.020And he played for my beloved childhood Detroit Tigers as a kid.
00:56:42.660And I watched him, you know, my entire childhood on the great Sparky Anderson Tiger teams of the 80s.
00:56:48.680And he comes in today and he's, it turns out he's a big fan of you and the blaze and our show.
00:56:53.720And he wants, he comes in, I give him the tour, you were still on the air.
00:56:57.020And he lets me put on, he brings it, comes in wearing his 1984 Detroit Tigers World Series ring.
00:57:02.640And it is actually a perfect fit on my finger.
00:57:04.560And I take a picture with him in the ring and my wife takes the picture and I go to talk and I can't.
00:57:09.620Because I'm thinking to myself, I'm, I'm back to being the 10 year old boy that when my parents went to bed and the Tigers on the West Coast and it's 1030 Eastern and I got school the next morning and I'm sneaking up to turn the TV on and putting it on with no sound so I can follow the game.
00:57:21.480And I'm going to be up till 1am for school, right?
00:57:47.460That's who we're fighting for, to pass on an American legacy to them that was given to us so that we're not the generation Reagan warned about.
00:57:55.940The one that will one day have to tell their children what it was like once in America when we were free.
00:58:00.460But what we're fighting for is actually moments like what you just described with your son, what I had out here in the lobby with Daryl Evans.
00:58:09.440The idea that it's the major benchmarks in life that matter the most.
00:58:53.380That there's a reason for those things.
00:58:55.080When America provided more than anything, and more than any other nation on earth ever has been able to, because of its prosperity, and because of its supremacy, and its liberties, and its freedoms, is those little moments of joy.
00:59:11.020That I was given, I had the freedom and the prosperity to even go sit for $4 in the old Tiger Stadium bleachers, 440 feet away from home plate, and watch Daryl Evans as a little boy hit a home run into those seats.
00:59:23.940And if we lose those things, what's happened, we're going to lose them.
00:59:28.900Because, see, in our era, particularly the men, they have prioritized those little joys over their main responsibilities.
00:59:36.700That we now don't look forward to those little joys to give us a break from our responsibilities.
01:02:59.960And then by that point in time, it's too late, and our priorities are out of order.
01:03:05.020And I think God is going to have to humble us where those priorities are concerned to bring us to a place where our hearts are ready for revival.
01:03:12.240And if we can be humble enough to not kill each other while that's happening.